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snake. That God provided so also, we believe in

but when God sent him

suddenly burst out with another reiteration of

not very strong and he doesn't snap it off. He

and groups for their sins, sometimes in very

flame goes out

What giving jesus cost the father

Is he saying who ruled

it's not and he loved all the other Nations, just

he may know more than that

moral figure.

is this God god's love can be cast in a a kind of

the first hour that is John chapter, three, but

Now, in a few moments, I'm going to read the next

session. I want to reflect a little on the God

For God, so love the world that he gave his son

they are

spiritually thirsty, irrespective of who are what

less than nothing. A positive impediment measured

of that living water christ offers to the

against one draft

and they are nothing

trump

triumphs by million add them altogether

Yet I say to you

And I beg you to believe me, multiply these tiny

That's fulfillment.

that it represented a serious impact on our time.

was sufficiently heated for me to persuade myself

It may have

that's pleasure.

Once in a while that something I said or wrote

divergence

revenue. That's the British irs

elderly. If they care to may partake of trendy

furnished with money and a little fame, even the

that success

admission to the higher slopes of the internal

I can fairly easily earn enough to qualify for

people occasionally stare at me in the streets.

That's fame.

relatively successful men

I'm a I suppose regard myself or past for being a

And in his old age, she wrote

spectacular career converted his old age

map, creative blasphemous victorious defeated a

brilliant guy centric journalist all over the

the testimony of malcolm mugger ridge cranky

Or again,

All things be trading will be traced. ni

and put a bullet in his head

and Richard cory. One calm summer night went home

went without the meat and curse the bread

So on, we worked and waited for the light and

that we were in this place

thought that he was everything to make us wish

admirably schooled in every grace in fine. We

And he was rich. Yes richer than a King and

morning and he glittered, when he walked

but still he fluttered pulses when he said good

always human when he talked,

And he was always quietly a raid and he was

imperiously slim

gentleman from Seoul to crown clean favored and

we people on the pavement looked at him. He was a

Robinson, whenever Richard cory, went downtown,

So, in the words of another poet, edwin arlington

sense that is godless and will eventually damn us

from being rich. That may destroy us and any

as were restored to the living go gg R meaning

what may destroy us or meaning. Does not come

does not come from being independent. That is

I just see that is what finally gives us meaning

That's the God who loves he's the hound of heaven

things be trade, the, who be traced me

and a voice beat more instant than the feet. All

deliberate speed majestic instance e. They beat

but within hurrying chase and unperturbed Pace

followed after

of cashman fears for those strong feet that

spent and shot precipitated a down titanic blooms

him and under running laughter a vested hopes. I

years. I fled him down the labyrinthine ways of

my own mind and in the midst of tears. I hid from

Chasing him down, I fled him down the knights and

down the dais. I fled him down the arches of the

were the hound of heaven

francis Thompson. That talks about God as if he

God pursued. Then there's a wonderful palm by

therefore we close with christ so many Christians

across the centuries have testified to the way

is the kind of God who pursue use us and

You see, we don't finally close with christ God

and joyful

other oriented servant minded christ. Exalted

When I'm overflowing with gratitude I am healthy

John piper writes that is my experience when I am

misfits and malcontents praise least

capacious minds praised most while the cranks

humblest and at the same time, most balanced and

made them large hearted and healthy. He said the

and thanking God made people childish but then it

changed. What he discovered was not the praising

praise God all the time and then everything

the message of the bible that we should thank and

cs Lewis before he was a Christian really dislike

In fact, the opposite is down right. Cranky

thankful

The opposite is childish

up into a mature thoughtful wise, humble,

are childish no bishops punk God wants us to grow

knows they are acting like selfish children. They

people who don't feel thankful for what they

receive. We call them in greats and everyone

market remarkable maturity. We have a name for

feeling grateful and saying it often is the

Thank you into the selfish part of a child

children do not naturally say. Thank you

owes them everything they want you have to drill.

They come into the world believing that the world

not really

constant gratitude produces childishness

strong with the strength of christ. You say this

stronger than he would have been otherwise he is

and I'm strong so his dependence made him

power of christ may rest upon me When I am weak

boast all more gladly of my weakness so that the

in weakness, Paul responded there for I will

sufficient for you for my power is made perfect

jesus said to the apostle Paul my grace is

it encourages being strong in a way that makes

God look good and makes us feel glad for example,

not exactly

You say this encourages weakness,

Gratitude.

and it's horrible and point hell.

Our hearts cannot stop feeling what they feel.

it does. He has rescued us from our selfishness

We cannot stop the mercy of God from doing what

that's true.

Yes, a rescuing day today results in gratitude

He says this

seen his my John piper

one of the best brief responses to it. I have

childishness

And dependency

That's a very common stance today

level as I have noted previously, a rescuing data

constant gratitude which is the story of the

t results in gratitude never expanded humanity

cross seems to encourage, creates only weakness

cross of christ has become an operative on every

centuries. The traditional understanding of the

and causing an incipient sado masochism that is

injured with a relentless tenacity through the

Guilt justifying the need for divine punishment

aside from

understood clearly the old pattern of seeing the

paid. It is totally inappropriate

what does the cross mean. How is it to be

crosses the place where the price of the fall was

a recently retired episcopal, bishop writes

bishops pong,

that thankfulness before jesus shows what an

for example,

is

inferior sappy emotional week religion. This

contrition before God thankfulness for what he's

But there are large voices in our world who think

done

gratitude

it is than the first response to it ought to be

and I believe with every fiber of my being that

if all of this is true

Let me end this way

christ and finally, so also here

looking at by trusting in by believing the bronze

We saw already in the last session just as the

greater length.

I'm going to come first thing

people in the wilderness were saved by simply

two sessions on to talk about faith at much

We're say teen, whoever believes in him is not

condemned already. The verdict is already passed

condemned, but whoever does not believe stands,

perish, but have eternal life

son that whoever believes in him shall not

God. So love the world. He gave his one and only

faith

this law that this love and this life is

And finally, the means by which we come to enjoy

unpacking precisely that point

And much of the new testament is given over to

debt becomes his his life becomes ours

christ. We believe in him. We trust him

and discovered that his life becomes ours as our

life. We do not finally, in jest physically. This

That whoever believes in him may have eternal

through him.

world to condemn the world, but to save the world

And only son, he did not send his son into the

He gave

son.

loved the world that he gave his one and only

eternal life that's. What the text to say God so

so that we don't have to die so that we may have

to die our death

It was with a purpose

die.

to do his father's will to go to the cross and

deserve to die

jesus dies a substitution airy death. He does not

for the whole burden of the new testament is that

I die so that you may live

language and says, unless you each of me, you die

that you may live and jesus dares take that

either. You die or something else living die. So

substitution, but the reality of it

The point is not the voluntary nature of such

volunteer

in or in the case of the lettuce

now of course, in the case of the cow it didn't

Or you die

dies

and it is all given its life for you either. It

That's what you eat

which they may be too much

dead, except for a few minerals like salt of

everything that had once been living and his now

dead wheat,

dead barley

dead tomato

Dead, let us

Dead pal

mcdonald's or something more sophisticated

What would you eat

Maybe tonight, when you go home you'll stop at

either. We die or it dies

in substitution

life for us

with which we must have or we die, has given its

All of this, organic stuff that we feed ourselves

pulled up and killed

You live because because the carrots have been

live because the chicken died

So anybody in the first century no who's that you

animals they've grown at themselves

comes from and they'll say from plants and

but you ask anybody in the first century where it

a chain is in this region is not what all say,

Oh from jules Co or whatever your gross, a teary,

today where does food come from.

If you ask a five year old or a seven year old

today

farm so they were much closer to land than we are

about everybody worked at hand crafted on the

Don't forget that in the ancient world, just

meant at all.

something like that originally that's not what I

it's uh the sacrament of holy communion as

are more religiously inclined. Might think. Maybe

truly close to cannibalism are those of us who

Now we read words like that today you

Will die

where jesus says he is the bread of life

and unless we eat him

There's, one spectacular passage in John six

clear

length, how he does that. There are other

passages in john's gospel of make that pretty

Now, in this passage does not depict a great

is to save them

coming and death on the cross

17, says to condemn them. The purpose of his

comes not simply to show Example, and not verse

We are already a lost and rebel brewed and he

already under god's judgment.

stand beside of genesis three in that sense we're

comes to people who are already condemned. We

think, will continue. I think we'll see you. He

He doesn't come to neutral people and say huh. I

them. Were back in the bible story line.

save people from condemnation that is already on

He has a purpose in going to the cross. It is to

mere example, though, he is an example

abstract lesson. He doesn't go to the cross, as a

victim of fate he doesn't go to the cross, as an

But jesus doesn't go to the cross, because he's a

Sad maybe but scarcely an exemplary of love

Elevator didn't go quite to the top

or that the fellow had lost it

With that prove, love

the end of the pier and drown

I love you. I will show my love to you jump off

the brighton pier and danielle world world world.

would it make any sense for somebody to run down

Some wag more than a century ago in Britain said,

but so

cross to prove how much he loves us,

sacrificing without an end jesus died on the

of God in christ jesus, as if it is somehow self

okay usually some people have depicted the love

love for us is clear and directed

These are the opposite. It's the purpose of god's

not believe stands condemned already because they

have not believed in the name of god's one and

only son.

believes in him is not condemned but whoever does

Life not to be condemned but to be saved. Whoever

to perish but to

into the world to condemn the world but to save

the world through him that's the second pair, not

have eternal life that's one pair, not perish

have eternal life for God did not send his son

whoever believes in him shall not perish, but

the world that he gave his one and only son that

different expressions are used for God so love

16 to eighteen John three 16, to eighteen

The purpose of god's love for us number three is

that we might have life look at the language of

is jesus

The measure of god's love for us

And that's what I pray for you. He says

you are a wash in the love of God

until South Consciously,

mature human being

perfectly mature. You cannot be a a genuinely

you might be just as full as God will make you

Paul uses when what he's saying is in order that

full measure of God that's a an expression of

in order. He says that you may be filled to the

that is past knowing to know it to experience. It

love that is not noble. That is past finding out

dimensions and then using paradox to know this

Using spatial metaphors to depict its limitless

how long and wide and high and deep is the love

of God in christ jesus

is that together with all of god's people, you

will learn to grasp

in the third chapter he says

Amongst my petitions for you, he says

in this way and he praised him this way and then,

he tells them how he prays for them. He praised

of emphasis

another group of believers, this time in the city

Indeed, the apostle Paul, when he's praying for

who loved me and gave himself for me

out

and, as he describes jesus death, he then breaks

tomorrow morning

Thing called justification is will come to that

on what the cross achieved. What this

chapter he's working through some very deep stuff

the galatians and Christians in the second

example, in one of paul's letters, is a letter to

what christ is done on the cross and they

their awareness of how much their love for

something going on in theology or some truth or

that it is not uncommon that they're describing

So, moving is this love of God for some of the

measured by christ jesus. So moving

new testament writers as shown in christ jesus as

forgive them. They do not know what they're doing

Whipped and beaten and broken and he cries father

depicted

on the passion, a lot of the physical suffering

was pretty accurately reef

But mel gibson

Did you see the film

Then you find them on the cross

that's, not jesus

It isn't characterized by tears of compassionate

decay. But it's all it's all angry.

denounces and criticizes ines offset by moral

There is a kind of moralizing preaching that

literature

who are quick to denounce but they're hypocrites.

There are some preachers, like elmer gant re and

the city

end of the whole thing, you find a weeping over

don't you see what you're doing and then at the

snakes in the grass. You generation of fighters

language. He can actually call some people use

we finish the series the series very strong

strong language, we'll come back to that before

Even when he is denouncing people and generations

gentle it's it's edifying it's it's compassionate

builds it up it's a way of saying his love, his

and it's bruised,

We have a read by the side of a Lake, a place

where Red wing black birds, flock

He founded back into flame

Squeezing out the smoldering, wick

and instead of

their hope. Do you hear those images a candle the

To victory in his name, the Nations will put

to lead

and a smoldering wick. He will not snuff out

in the streets a bruised Reed. He will not break

one will heed his voice in this here. His voice

to the Nations. He will not coral or cry out. No

put my spirit on him and he will proclaim Justice

chosen the one I love and who my delight. I will

the words are here is my servant to my have

the prophet isaiah 700 and more years earlier,

He quote some words pertaining to himself from

Or there's this wonderful passage in Matthew 12

children come to me

jumping all over him and he says let the little

that they're playing with jesus and

angry

little children don't come to somebody. Who's

of model for what his own disciples should be

children and setting up little children as a kind

You find them also um playing with little

shepherd and the Texas. He has compassion on them

religiously empty. He calls them, sheep without a

crowd that seems leaderless

a heart as big as all outdoors as he looks on a

You find them on occasion for example, with um

love

new testament that speak of god's love for jesus

in jesus' life half a dozen other texts in the

Let me just remind you of half a dozen instance

god's love watch jesus.

is jesus. If you want to see the full measure of

does jesus show. The measure of god's love for us

But it means something else as well. What love

so that others might be spared death

Gladly give your child

child

You who are parents would you gladly give your

love for us is jesus, it really means two things

Indeed, when we say that the measure of god's

God, it is that since is giving himself

to love us

gives his son for us that's how much he chooses

circle of love and eternity. Past. Now the father

was already one with the father in a perfect

who, before he became jesus as the eternal son,

This jesus,

is jesus

and the measure of this love

It's astonishing

But he loves them in any case

whole are all lost

directed on some in any case, the summer the

inviting some of way. This is sort of way, even

if another passages it's particularly focused and

john's expressions elsewhere in a yearning

in one sense. The whole world to use one of

God chooses to love us

God ourselves

We thumb our noses at them and what will become

And then, when he does make us

There was a profession of love and eternal t bast

doesn't need us

We've already seen that the God who is there

passed our wildest. Most generous imaginations

son, love the father in a perfection of love

father love the Sun in a perfection of love the

meditation on the fact that any turn a t past the

priestly prayer, where this a kind of extended

chapter 17 that is sometimes called jesus, hi

for the father there's, a wonderful chapter

of the father for the son and the love of the Sun

is rich and expressions that talk about the love

Now you've got to understand that john's gospel

sent his one and only son

the measure of god's love for us is jesus look at

verse. 16 again. God, so love the world that he

the measure of god's love for us, his cheeses,

Then second,

its considered. Wonderful, surprising

in some ways, not the way it ought to be. Why

doesn't he just condemn us. instead

three gods love is always marveled at

Not because you're so lovable

That's why, in the bible this side of genesis,

But because I'm that kind of God

I love you anyway

And you know what

personality

You are the people of the crippled knees.

You are the people of the rampage angus con

You are height hateful and spiteful and murderous

You are the people of the moral halitosis

it's as if God is saying to the world.

the world

But the text says God, so loved

light on a doesn't show up the dirt

People don't want to be exposed to that kind of

Because your needs are evil

instead of like

coming to the world, but people have darkness

light that is so good and clean and pure it is

god's gracious self disclosure. His revelation

into the world that is with the coming of jesus

verse 19. This is the verdict. Light has come

on

It's why we read in this passage a little farther

recognize him

the world was made through him, the world did not

of john's gospel.

We read verse 10. He was in the world and though

looked at two sessions back the so called pro log

That's why I already in the first chapter that we

Infidelity and wickedness

and that is rebelled against him in hateful mus

and idolatry and genuine broken relationship.

human centered created order that God has made

Rather, the word world in john's gospel is this

it

is not just a big place with a lot of people in

because the word world in john's gospel typically

But then quickly that is a load of nonsense

loves us must be because we're lovable

I'm okay you're okay, God says we're okay. He

you. It must be the

of God in exactly that way. If God says, I love

There are a lot of psychologists who use the love

is he declaring the lovable nest of the world

In other words, when God says, I love you world

that what he say

I love you. I can't imagine having without you is

world and your cute.

your which your gift

conversation,

world. I love you

your scintillating personality you're intelligent

the world. What is he saying

Now God comes along and this verse, God, so love

isn't that correct

declaring the tie that moment he finds her lovely

declares his love for her in part, he is

He doesn't mean that doesn't, he, when he

woman and I love you

miserable self righteous. Narcissistic hateful

you don't have any sense of humor you're, a

You have the personality of ganga sc on

of a of a crippled camel.

Your knees remind me of a crooked cam

rampaging elephants

creature. I know

Your how to toe sis would stop uh heard of

So, quite frankly, you are the most holy

Mean is

sue. I love you. What he does

brings down the whole room it's so contagious

an encouraging or you've got this laugh that

your personality. It is so wonderful you're such

smile there's nothing about you. I don't love

them the smell of your hair. The dimples when you

so the color of your eyes. I could just sink into

it might actually come out

And if he said he got any sort of romantic twist,

that he finds her lovable

I'll tell you what he doesn't mean

When he says, I love you, he is in part saying

in. He wants to go to bed with her fourth, with

He may simply mean that his hormones are jumping

We could be a lot of things

What does he mean

I really do

He takes her hand and he says soon

I love you,

their toes.

their sandals feel a wet, says squish between

The Sun has made the send warm they kick off

It's the end of the academic year

University students,

Bob and sue are walking down a Beach

an illustration. I've sometimes used with

the story line of scripture. We have to rethink

it again. Let me come in from the side door. It's

not to love is there

But you see this is already so far removed from

of course, God will love me mean nothing in the

I don't beat up on people I'm pretty decent blog

neighborly and maybe even cute,

especially out to love me because I'm nice and

only do we think that God is to love but he's,

The reason we don't think this way is because not

bible delights to marvel at god's love

Via large that's not the way we think, but the

loves us

in the bible, it is simply astonishing that God

passage and related ones. First,

comments. Let me draw some inferences from this

Now, then, let me make a couple of um

has been done in the sight of God

plainly that what they have done

come into the light so that it may be seen

will be exposed, but those who live by the truth

all those who do evil hates the light and will

not Come into the light for fear that their deeds

were evil

darkness instead of light because their deeds

name of god's one and only son.

light has come into the world but people love

This is the verdict

already because they have not believed in the

condemn the world, but to save the world through

For God did not send his son into the world to

whoever does not believe stands, condemned

him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned but

but have eternal life

only son

God, so loved the world that he gave his one and

that whoever believes in him shall not perish,

believes may have eternal life in him than we

read verse 16 for

we've come to the end of the direct discourse

special revelation that he's mentioned that moses

lifting up the snake. So that everyone who

about um new birth and so forth. Crisis claims

chapter three

Now, then, let me read these verses from John

take no care to see the wonderful diversity of

you read the biblical text by taking one verse

ways in which the bible speaks of god's love

out of its context. Universal rising it and and

up, be careful. You do not make silly mistakes as

back before midnight. I love them anyway

My kids don't earn my love by bringing the car

And yet, at the same time, there are different

contexts in which, in which god's love is spoken

god's love.

because at the end of the day, you can't earn

different ways

in one sense, you want to affirm that absolutely

language in different contexts and slightly

True or false

because, because the bible can use god's love

anymore

it depends on the passage to you. Do you see

yeah you've been,

You can't do anything to make God love you

god's own sovereign selection do you see

obedience and still others, words grounded in

the ones. I mentioned where it's dependent upon

but there are other contexts like the fifth of

loves people just the same,

Deploys language of love in really cast god's

out of love upon the just and up on the undersea

love as a moral he sends his son and his reign

Because some of the passages that the bible

And the answer is yes

True or not true

God loves everybody just the same

So people sometimes come along with cliches like

where it's selective

which it's rightly said to be immoral and others

this. Why does can be imagine some context in

There are contexts in which god's roth is is

covenant to lob litigation where god's roth might

well break ow.

family responsibilities or in biblical terms,

another matrix where there are agreements and

them. There's, a matrix in which that's true

the language changes just a wee bit did you see,

I don't think my unconditional love changed for

where it's the same kids. The same dad, but but

getting the flipping car home

In other words, there are different contexts

you. It was conditional on our bang me and

And that's my love was quite conditional. Thank

If they weren't, they face the rough of dad

sure your home by midnight

context, when they were just kids

learning to drive if I said to one of them make

I love him unconditionally, yet in another

He's my son.

I think I love it anyway.

streets of New York

And if, instead, he started selling heroin on the

I have a son who's, a Marine

She's my daughter I love her unconditionally

I think I love her anyway

La

If, instead she became a hooker on the streets of

disadvantaged kids

In California who works with them

I have a daughter

unconditionally

I believe so help me God. I love my children

or again. I can say

Aren't they

and they really have different weight

because they are really quite different contexts.

sentence too often, my wife will not be pleased

But if I put all three together in the same

and I love my wife

I love riding my motorcycle. I love would work

mean I could say with a straight face

speak this way, even if human love don't we, I

that it can't be all that difficult because we

asking how do you put all this stuff together

But after you get over the first shot, you see

speak of god's love and conditional terms

That you see how subtle it is because you started

so there is a context in which the bible can

of those who love me and keep my commandments

He shows his mercy to generation after generation

this.

Even in the 10 commandments, we saw words like

sense, conditional on our obedience

testament where jesus love for us is in some

And indeed, there are a lot of passages in both

all

the love of God there's a moral dimension to it

Which shows that you might not keep yourself and

yourselves in the love of God

finds June the half brother of jesus writing keep

bible, a little one page book called jude,

Thus, for example, the second last book of the

then his love becomes quite conditional

sometimes once God is in connection in covenant

and agreement connection with his own people,

with use that term in a kind of family connection

And then there's still one more

love

sovereign choice

other Nations because he love them it's a

That's another way that the bible speaks of god's

affection on Israel as a part as opposed to the

the same. It's not in the context he he said his

And in that context, this is why he chose Israel

But is he loved. You because he loves you

because he loved you

He said his affection on you, the text says

Because you're more righteous

dope

nope

because you're more mighty

more numerous

He takes off the possibilities because you're

question. Why did he choose the nation of his

chapter seven and 10 God raises the rhetorical

genesis exodus leviticus numbers deuteronomy in

that's the fifth book of the old testament

and autonomy do Toronto me seven during a me 10

very strong language in the remarkable passages

Jacob have I loved, but esau have I hated very,

elective. It is choosing it is frankly

discriminating it chooses one and not another.

god's love is

of talking about god's love. Some kind sometimes

A fourth way of speaking is not a fourth kind of

love. It's a fourth kind of speech, a fourth way

For the third fourth guide

the world

And we'll discover here in a moment God, so love

wicked

he's. That kind of God he invites

the lord has no pleasure in the death of the

perverse, saying turn turn, why would you die for

testament when, when the nation is particularly

so you find God addressing Israel in the old

Commanding your earning sense

a kind of moral inviting

love is this sometimes it speaks of god's love in

then. Another way that the bible speaks of god's

that's another context,

extend so generously to to friend and foe alike

your enemies

so there is a sense in which god's love can

your enemy and only love your friends and hate

distinctions about who's your friend and who is

shouldn't make all these fine fine fine

his reign upon the just and the unjust, then you

that fact to say if, if God can send his son and

In fact, in the sermon on the mount jesus can use

and his reign upon the just and upon the unjust

discriminating. It is an immoral, a, not an

immoral and amarillo of he sustains both

that is to say it is some providential and non

providential setting God sends We're told his son

god's love. Another way

perfectly lovely and they love each other

the son is perfectly lovely and the father's

perfectly that's one way the bible speaks of

are a hopeless case, but I love you anyway

is perfect

amongst the members of the godhead

if the father says to the son frankly, you really

And each one who is loved is lovely it's not as

referred to as the trinity, then it's love

track. Tryna terry and love. If God can be

This love in the godhead. This people call it in

his father as well

Is first of all because he loves his father and

what pleases him in the context. What pleases him

is the jesus should go to the cross on our behalf

must know that I love the father and always do

Quite jesus goes to the cross

Just before going to the cross says the world

father always does whatever pleases him in fact

were told explicitly that the son loves the

all should honor the Sun even as they honor the

father exclusively the father loves the son and

the father loves the son is has determined that

but john's gospel for example, the fourth book in

the new testament, says that the father loves the

son and commend everything into his hand

spirit. Yet there's more to come,

spirit I really haven't mentioned much about the

and later on we'll see that this extends to the

Of his son, for the father

father for his son and the

say this within the godhead the love of the

There is love of God. I don't know how else to

dares to speak of the love of God, number one.

are probably not the only way, but but but at

least five different contexts in which the bible

God. Let me run the through them quickly. These

different ways. The bible speaks of the love of

The difficult doctrine of the love of God

tries to lay out amongst other things, five

The little book that um was mentioned earlier.

pretty spongy notions of love

love in fact, I think we have developed some

relatively easy to believe that God is a God of

But precisely because our culture finds it

about that. yet

spectacular being and loveliness will say more

his glory, his his manifestation of his

his um truthfulness

about that little later in the series

love. True and his holiness, I will say more

And that means when we think of god's love, we

need to think of god's other attributes to god's

and priority

roundly. There is no way on god's Green Earth. He

is um condemning moral discernment

hypocritical, he condemns that repeatedly and

righteous,

The kind of judgment that is judgemental self

jesus does

haven't even begun to understand who jesus is

immorality and leaving it all to you. They

judged means is that jesus is abolishing all

So if what people think judge not that ye be not

important does judge not that ye be not judged

there are always context. He is an astonishingly

In other words, when jesus says something as

pigs are

Which means somebody's got to figure out who the

pearls before swine

To say just five verses later do not cast your

judge lest you be judged.

He goes

that too is a condemnation of those who don't in

fact, in the very text where jesus says, do not

mind and strength

implicit judgment on those who don't

know about loving God with heart and soul and

about loving your neighbor as yourself, that's an

implement implicit judgment on liars

to telling the truth doesn't that stand is an

Why, then does he gives so many injunctions about

meant

morally discriminating judgment is that what he

But did he really mean by that, do not make any

Christians, God help us are mean

you be not judged

And it's true that jesus said do not judge that

everybody do whatever they want and that's what

love means and it's true that sometimes

nonjudgmental doesn't condemn anybody let

both the nature of love, isn't. There it's

Now, there's a certain kind of assumption. There

Christians. There are so Ny

than the world be a better place for those

nonjudgmental and loving the way jesus is loving

wonderful jesus said, judge, not that ye be not

judged. You know if we could all just be

and if everybody was just like jesus, would be

It's Christians I don't like I mean God, is love

So occasionally a find somebody saying

notions of what love means.

spongy

of the love of God has also comes some fairly

Yet with this being comfortable with the notion

love

find it by and large, easy to believe in god's

but today, if people believe in God at all, they

which teams are biblical in some degree or

another, some massively, so, then, on his love,

terror or is sovereignty or his holiness. All of

there has been more emphasis on god's

And sometimes, in the history of the church,

arbitrary mean spirited malicious. That's. Why

you have to placate them

Many people have thought of the gods is pretty

That is not always been the case in human

history.

that he's a loving God

about God if our world believes in God at all is

there is one thing that our world thinks it knows

little more generally about love of God, for if

but before we do that, um, I want to talk a

versus in the same chapter that we looked at in

picking up from verse 16,

This talk provides is the mira, ste introduction

to one of the grandest themes found in all the

bible. This is the God who loves

what

session to 10 or 20. This is it

wish, I could have taken time to expand one

If there is any place in this series where I

upon those who praise him and those who hate him.

and his reign upon the just and the unjust alike

who may in some cases be bitter enemies

must reflect the love of God who sends his son

our fellow human beings who are not believers and

comparison seems to be while the Love we have for

life within God himself, as mind boggling as the

transforming.

should mirror and be part of the internal love

the love Christians ought to have for each other,

Indeed, the bible goes so far as to insist that

What the bible says about god's love is rich.

It's evocative diverse,

powerful, humbling, subtle and utterly life

in fact

grandfather figure whose main aim is to spoil us

lives still less actually love us.

interested in the nitty gritty of our little

Others think of him as a sweet spirited Super

distant day. It you could not possibly be

Others think of him as a transcendent, but

who loves

force.

and grateful I am selfish and immature

some people think of God, as an impersonal life

Hello again, my name is dawn carson in this

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