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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,520 hello and welcome to tech deals computer 1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,400 gaming has a long and story history 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:11,360 going back well before ibm itself 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,360 launched the pc in 1981. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 most people today who want to play games 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,920 on their pc have a dedicated graphics 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,080 card to render the amazing 3d images 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,240 that we all take for granted today 8 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:24,400 most but not all 9 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:27,119 some people play games on integrated 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,960 graphics built into the cpu or even 11 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:31,439 their motherboard if we're going back a 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,680 few years and for some games this works 13 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:37,120 better than you might think this is 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,920 battlefield 5 at 1080p low detail in 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,239 multiplayer conquest it's not running at 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,079 60 frames per second but it's not that 17 00:00:42,239 --> 00:00:47,600 far off and most importantly it's 18 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:50,239 running smoothly you can think the 8 zen 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,239 3 cores on the cpu for that last part 20 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:55,440 more on that in a minute 21 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:57,840 this pc does not have a graphics card it 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,359 is running on the vega 8 graphics built 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,600 right into the 5700g cpu and i was able 24 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:05,760 to play a full battle it was totally 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,400 controllable and the input lag was 26 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,880 manageable this isn't suitable for super 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,200 competitive gamers but for casual fans 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,640 who just want to blast things it works 29 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,720 perfectly fine 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,280 i start off showing you that because 31 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,159 it's all too easy to dismiss integrated 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,240 graphics as useless for real gaming 33 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:26,240 whatever that is supposed to mean of 34 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,400 course a dedicated graphics card is 35 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,119 going to provide far superior graphical 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,040 detail and performance but not everyone 37 00:01:31,119 --> 00:01:36,400 has the luxury of using one 38 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,119 today i've got 35 games to show you 39 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,920 across all levels of playability graphic 40 00:01:39,119 --> 00:01:45,200 settings and even ram speed settings we 41 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,920 have new aaa games old aaa games free to 42 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,720 play games from multiple eras classic 43 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:54,320 games and more this video is meant to be 44 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:57,040 a definitive guide of the ryzen 7 5700 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:00,240 g's gaming performance good 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:03,040 bad and everything in between now this 47 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,600 will be a long video so please sit back 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:09,320 relax grab a drink grab a snack and 49 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,320 let's get into it 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,840 today's video was brought to you by 51 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,000 urcity keys the best source for windows 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,720 10 and offers professional product keys 53 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,879 at deeply discounted prices and we have 54 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,480 got further discounts on those at the 55 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:28,560 end of this video 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,480 first there will be time stamps in the 57 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,040 video description below as well as in 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,959 the youtube timeline itself you can 59 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,200 absolutely skip around if you're looking 60 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:39,680 for something specific however please 61 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,000 consider watching the whole thing once 62 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,080 straight through it's designed to tell a 63 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,680 story and there is more to performance 64 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,879 than benchmark charts 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,040 also if you like our content watch time 66 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:53,360 percentage is important to the youtube 67 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,519 algorithm so watching the entire video 68 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,440 is a great free way to support us and 69 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:59,680 promote the video to others 70 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,519 another great way to support us and to 71 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,920 see the benchmark charts and filming 72 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:05,920 scripts early is patreon link in the 73 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:08,480 video description below for just two 74 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:10,959 dollars per month or a flat 20 for an 75 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,319 entire year you get early access to the 76 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:14,640 charts and the written version of the 77 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:17,200 script used for filming i showed you 78 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:19,200 battlefield 5 at the start of the video 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,720 let's look at another game that is super 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:26,319 playable call of duty infinite warfare 81 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:29,200 this is also 1080p low detail just like 82 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:31,200 battlefield 5 was however we now have an 83 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,920 average frame rate of 80 frames per 84 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,080 second and a one percent low near 60 85 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:38,239 frames per second this is solid 86 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,480 performance and it still looks decent at 87 00:03:38,239 --> 00:03:42,159 low detail you could crank this up to 88 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,040 medium if you're okay to trade some 89 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:48,159 performance for visual detail to be fair 90 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,159 infinite warfare came out in 2016 so 91 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:52,640 that helps a lot when it comes to 92 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:55,599 performance battlefield 5 came out in 93 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,959 2018 which is the primary reason why it 94 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:59,920 runs slower 95 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:02,239 switching back to battlefield 5 one key 96 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:05,040 point i want you to notice is the cpu 97 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:07,040 usage it ranges from thirty percent to 98 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,640 fifty percent which is anywhere from 99 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,640 five to eight of the cores on the 5700 g 100 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,239 anything over fifty percent is in the 101 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,720 hyper threading so the game runs 102 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:19,600 smoothly not because of the eye gpu but 103 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,359 because of the cpu if we slide infinite 104 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,840 warfare onto the right side of the 105 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:27,440 screen you can easily compare the cpu 106 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:30,639 usage between these two games 2016 games 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,800 only used 2-4 cores while 2018 and 108 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:34,560 beyond games really did start to use 109 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,560 more than four 110 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,320 keep in mind that if the cores aren't 111 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,759 needed you can get almost the same 112 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:44,160 performance here out of a ryzen 7 5600g 113 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:47,759 which has the same basic design with 114 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,320 three key changes the 5600g has six 115 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:53,600 cores versus the eight cores on the 5700 116 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:56,240 g it has 200 megahertz lower boost 117 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,560 frequency and it has vega 7 graphics 118 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,840 instead of vega 8 graphics which simply 119 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,039 means it runs games 14 slower all else 120 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:06,160 being equal 121 00:05:03,039 --> 00:05:08,560 i haven't done a review of the 5600g and 122 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,400 honestly i'm not going to not because 123 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,960 it's terrible but because one of the key 124 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,360 advantages of these cpus is the ability 125 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,280 to buy now use the integrated graphics 126 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,440 and then add a dedicated graphics card 127 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:22,160 later when the budget allows 128 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,479 six core cpus first launched more than a 129 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:28,479 decade ago in the consumer space from 130 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:31,600 intel in the form of the i7 980x and amd 131 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:33,680 in the form of the phenom 2x6 132 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:38,880 they entered the mainstream starting 133 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:43,039 with the i7 5820k in 2014 and a huge way 134 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:45,280 with the ryzen 5 1600 in 2017 135 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:48,240 i am firmly of the opinion that for 136 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:50,720 gaming pcs six core chips are at the end 137 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,320 of their era eight cores minimum is 138 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,639 where you want to be for a brand new 139 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,840 build and if we're being honest that's 140 00:05:54,639 --> 00:06:00,880 the entry level for a premium build 16 141 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:02,560 cores are where it's at going into 2023. 142 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,639 now i know some of you will disagree 143 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,720 with me here and that is absolutely fine 144 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:09,440 it's your money spend it however you 145 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,199 like i will just say this 146 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,400 i've been working in the computer field 147 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:17,280 for 31 years i started my first computer 148 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,759 company 26 years ago i've seen a lot of 149 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:21,199 changes and trends over that time i'm 150 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:23,199 giving you my experienced and 151 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:26,000 professional opinion based upon that 152 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:28,400 background do with it what you will 153 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,240 before we jump to a lot of benchmarks 154 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,800 including more live gameplay than 155 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,639 typical for a video like this let me run 156 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,039 down the details and features of the 157 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:39,039 ryzen 7 5700g 158 00:06:37,039 --> 00:06:41,600 if you know this stuff already you can 159 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:45,520 skip to the xcom2 benchmark in the 160 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:49,360 timestamp below the ryzen 7 5700g 161 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:52,240 launched in april of 2021 for oems and 162 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:56,720 august of 2021 in a retail box for 163 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:59,919 consumers at an msrp of 359 164 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,080 it can be purchased for about 250 in the 165 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:04,639 summer of 2022. 166 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:07,039 it contains eight zen3 cores that are 167 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:09,199 hyper threaded giving us a total of 16 168 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:11,520 threads to work with and a max turbo 169 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:14,639 frequency out of the box of 4.6 170 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,039 gigahertz the cpu is unlocked so if you 171 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:18,639 have solid cooling you can improve this 172 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:21,520 however there really aren't a lot of 173 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:23,440 gains to be had here 4.8 gigahertz is 174 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,759 typically the most you'll get and that's 175 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,360 with more effort than is worthwhile so 176 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:31,840 run it at stock 177 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:34,160 the cpu has 24 pci express lanes with 16 178 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,520 going to the first gpu slot which we're 179 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,960 not using here because we're using 180 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,319 integrated graphics but future 181 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,039 upgradability 182 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:44,479 four going to the first m.2 slot on your 183 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:46,720 am4 board for an nvme drive and four is 184 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:49,440 going directly to the chipset now this 185 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:52,000 is important these are gen three lanes 186 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:56,160 one step down from the gen four lanes of 187 00:07:52,000 --> 00:08:00,960 non-g ryzen 5000 series cpus so a ryzen 188 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:03,199 7 5700 x has effectively the same cores 189 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,319 at the same speed with the same number 190 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:09,039 of pci express lines however those are 191 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:10,720 gen 4 lanes on the x chip but it lacks 192 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:14,080 integrated graphics which is what the g 193 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,080 chip offers to be blunt if you cared 194 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,240 you'd be buying a ryzen 9. so don't 195 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,800 worry too much about the pci express 196 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,520 lanes this is for a budget build you're 197 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,560 not putting an rtx 3090 in here or you 198 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,039 shouldn't be 199 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,960 the built-in graphics are referred to as 200 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:32,959 radeon vega 8 graphics by amd however 201 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,519 these are rather old graphics scores at 202 00:08:32,959 --> 00:08:39,200 this point really not worthy of the zen 203 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:42,320 3 cpu cores that are themselves awesome 204 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,800 the next gen of cpus referred to as zen4 205 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,040 are coming to the new am5 platform and 206 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,480 they are expected to have rd and a2 207 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,959 based graphics 208 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,640 and probably cost a lot more to boot so 209 00:08:50,959 --> 00:08:54,959 we shall see what the value equation is 210 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,839 there when that launches the integrated 211 00:08:54,959 --> 00:09:00,160 graphics can be overclocked it runs at 2 212 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:01,839 gigahertz out of the box and many people 213 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,760 like to think that ram speed makes a 214 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:07,040 huge difference since we don't have 215 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,880 dedicated gddr5 or gddr6 helping with 216 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,200 memory bandwidth more on that in a 217 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,240 minute with some memory benchmarks 218 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,959 the 5700g does come with a cooler in the 219 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:20,080 box however you'd be well served to buy 220 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:22,560 something better a 20 deep cool gamex 221 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,360 400 would be a solid improvement over 222 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,600 the cooler in the box for the record we 223 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,600 used a scythemugan 5 cooler for the 224 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,240 testing that we did today which is a 225 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,560 more expensive but it's a nicer cooler 226 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,640 overall highly recommended we have to 227 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,640 talk about motherboard support because 228 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,040 this is one key area that has changed 229 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,680 dramatically since the zen3 cpu's 230 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,760 launched at launch they only officially 231 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:50,560 supported the 500 series motherboards 232 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:52,720 the a520 the b550 and the x570 chipsets 233 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:56,080 since then amd has added official 234 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,000 support for zen 3 cpus at the discretion 235 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,320 of motherboard manufacturers who have to 236 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,399 do the actual bios updates to enable 237 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,000 support on the entire line of 238 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:08,560 motherboards 300 400 and 500 series 239 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,320 boards by this point in the summer of 240 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:15,360 2022 most motherboards now support these 241 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,440 cpus however you'll need to do a bios 242 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,800 update and doing so will be different 243 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,320 for every board 244 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,720 some can make a single leap to the 245 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,279 latest bios some need to be stair 246 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,360 stepped up to the newest version one two 247 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:29,920 or three versions at a time 248 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,240 be aware that you can brick your 249 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,320 motherboard with a bad bios update so 250 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,160 watch our bios upgrade guide if you're 251 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,920 not familiar with how to do this all of 252 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,760 the testing that you will see today was 253 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,680 done on this asus rog strix 254 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,800 x470-f motherboard on our test bench 255 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:48,079 right back there you can see the 256 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:51,680 cyclugen5 sticking up over the box 257 00:10:48,079 --> 00:10:55,120 why not test on our x 570 test bench the 258 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:57,360 msi x570 ace motherboard you can see 259 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,279 that test bench right back over there 260 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,440 that's our zen 3 test bench and 261 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:04,079 unfortunately this motherboard lacks a 262 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,240 video out to use for integrated graphics 263 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:08,079 now i assume that msi figured that no 264 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,640 one was going to install a cpu without a 265 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:12,480 dedicated graphics card on a 400 266 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,959 motherboard yes this was insanely 267 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,880 expensive when it launched and normally 268 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:18,000 they'd be right unless of course you're 269 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,079 a tech youtuber and you need to 270 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,200 benchmark stuff most of the testing 271 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:26,320 today was done with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 272 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,560 3600 cl18 that is our current 273 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,959 recommendation for ram in both size and 274 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:31,920 speed for most people given the market 275 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:34,240 today 276 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,399 everything was at 1080p resolution with 277 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,959 detail settings and render resolutions 278 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:41,680 changing to suit the games tested what 279 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:44,079 follows now is a lot of benchmarks of 280 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:46,399 live gameplay rather than canned 281 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:48,720 benchmarks the results for all of which 282 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:50,639 will be in charts later in the video 283 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,959 however there is great value in seeing 284 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,959 the actual gameplay rather than just a 285 00:11:52,959 --> 00:11:56,720 number so you can judge for yourself how 286 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:59,040 well everything runs 287 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:02,959 let's move on to a game that surprised 288 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:05,760 me and how poorly it ran xcom 2. this 289 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:07,760 game launched in 2016 and it should be 290 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,480 fairly easy to run right 291 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,200 shockingly not really you're watching 292 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,839 1080p at minimum detail and it's really 293 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,920 not very smooth you could play it 294 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:19,440 however it has a lag and a stutter to 295 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,720 the gameplay that i really wasn't 296 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,320 expecting 297 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,959 side note i have over 1300 hours of 298 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,360 playtime in xcom 2. so i really love 299 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:31,760 this game the modding scene for the game 300 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,240 is awesome with hundreds and hundreds of 301 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,639 amazingly detailed mods for this game 302 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,600 moving on to another game that ran way 303 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:41,440 worse than expected cities skylines now 304 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,760 in fairness the detail settings here are 305 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,680 not at their lowest level and i am using 306 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,399 a large and well built out city for 307 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,440 testing however this is just absolutely 308 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,320 terrible 309 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,480 sure it's functional it's a city builder 310 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,320 you can pause and slow down the game but 311 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,320 what is really needed here is a smaller 312 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,120 city lower detail settings and a 313 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,120 dedicated graphics card so why didn't i 314 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,360 reload it at minimum detail 315 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,920 time is always working against me i 316 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,000 tested 35 games here trying multiple 317 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,279 detail settings turns into a pretty big 318 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,279 time sync 319 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,240 let's move on to something that runs way 320 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,000 better apex legends this isn't a game 321 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,680 that i cover very often but i thought it 322 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:25,200 might run well on this cpu 1080p low 323 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:27,920 detail 100 render and yeah this is not 324 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,160 bad it's not ideal for competitive 325 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,360 players but it's absolutely fine for 326 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:36,160 casual gamers it was smooth responsive 327 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,720 and had no issues with frame times lag 328 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,880 or gameplay other than of course my own 329 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,440 lack of skill in these sorts of games 330 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,279 since i'm no longer 20 and don't have 57 331 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,760 hours a week to get good 332 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:49,760 defense grid 2 is the tower defense 333 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,079 sequel to the critically acclaimed 334 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,160 defense grid awakening if you've never 335 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:56,000 played a tower defense game start with 336 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,199 the first one it's probably one of the 337 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,519 best such games in history at least i'd 338 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:03,920 put it at number one on my list and i've 339 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:06,560 played more than a few the first game 340 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,639 launched in 2008 the sequel defense grid 341 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:12,399 2 which you're watching here launched in 342 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:14,880 2014 not as popular perhaps but still a 343 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:17,440 lot of fun to play it plays very well 344 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,440 here at 1080p high detail 345 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,720 fortnite is one of the most popular 346 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:26,560 online games in the world and as you can 347 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:29,440 see runs very nicely here this is 1080p 348 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,120 a medium detail render was set manually 349 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,160 to a hundred percent as it defaults 350 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,920 lower at medium performance mode was not 351 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,160 turned on however if you're a 352 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,000 competitive player doing so will double 353 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,120 these frame rates at the cost of visual 354 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,040 detail 355 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,440 fortnite is a great example of a game 356 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,440 that will run on almost anything at some 357 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,000 level and it shows why you don't have to 358 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,160 spend all the money in the world just to 359 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,720 have fun while gaming 360 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,800 world of warships is another great 361 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,680 example of a game that you can spend 362 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,360 endless hours playing for free or nearly 363 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,199 for free since a premium account goes a 364 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,399 long way towards advancement 365 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:08,800 this is 1080p high detail and it runs 366 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:11,760 great 60 frames per second in most 367 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,720 situations rarely dropping below 368 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,959 smooth and easy to control if you love 369 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,120 world war one and world war ii naval 370 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:21,760 combat and you want a game that does a 371 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,320 decent job of simulating the ships if 372 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,199 not actual naval combat itself give 373 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,199 world of warships a try star wars the 374 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:32,560 old republic is one of the last big 375 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:34,480 budget mmos to launch way back in 2011. 376 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,639 i used to live stream this game on 377 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,040 twitch and i have an absolutely stupid 378 00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:42,320 number hours of playing it it may very 379 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,320 well be my most played game of all time 380 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,279 putting all of that aside you're 381 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:50,800 watching 1080p high detail which might 382 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:52,480 seem easy to run for a 2011 game however 383 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,480 it has received several patches and 384 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,959 updates over the years and it isn't the 385 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,279 same game that launched 11 years ago 386 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:00,880 this is both a good and a bad thing but 387 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:03,120 this isn't a review of star wars the old 388 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,959 republic so i'll just say that any 389 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,519 reasonably modern machine can run this 390 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:10,480 as well as it runs without complaint 391 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:13,040 overwatch was released in 2016 and still 392 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,680 has millions of active players every 393 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,519 month this is exactly the sort of cpu 394 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,000 that should run this game well and you 395 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:24,000 won't be disappointed you're watching 396 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,560 1080p high detail 100 render resolution 397 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,600 and it is absolutely solid at 60 frames 398 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,920 per second 399 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,399 totally controllable with no lag or 400 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,560 stutter whatsoever you could play all 401 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:37,040 day long like this and never notice you 402 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,519 didn't have a dedicated video card 403 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,680 soul survivor is another tower defense 404 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:43,680 game perhaps not as good as defense grid 405 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,600 awakening but well worth playing for 406 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,839 fans of the genre 1080p high detail does 407 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,839 not maintain 60 frames per second 408 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:54,000 however this is a survival mode that 409 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:56,880 you're watching that gets very intense 410 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,399 the campaign would run better either way 411 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,000 no issues here 412 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:04,240 star wars battlefront 2 launched in 2017 413 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 and it has a story worth telling in its 414 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,919 own right but you're not here for that 415 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,160 so i'll just say that the game is in a 416 00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:12,079 way better state than it was at launch 417 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,199 and it remains a lot of fun to play 418 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:16,559 today 419 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:19,199 1080p low detail 100 render we're 420 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:21,839 getting about 45 frames per second with 421 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:24,880 a one percent low in the 30 range it's 422 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:26,559 playable but not ideal i did play an 423 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,440 entire multiplayer match and found the 424 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:32,000 input lag to be low the control to be 425 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,840 good enough however this game would 426 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,840 really benefit from a dedicated graphics 427 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:40,480 card the division 2 launched in 2018 and 428 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,480 it is amazingly well optimized it will 429 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,160 use the resources of a high-end machine 430 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,400 to provide great performance in 431 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,880 multiplayer matches in the dark zone 432 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,960 or it'll run in single player mode on 433 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,000 very modest pcs 434 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,720 this is 1080p low detail and we are 435 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,679 averaging 62 frames per second with a 436 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,600 one percent low not far behind this is 437 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:04,240 completely controllable without any 438 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,799 issues however keep in mind that this is 439 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,960 single player content here i would not 440 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,600 try this in multiplayer environments on 441 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,960 this hardware so keep that in mind 442 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:17,280 pinball fx3 might seem an odd choice to 443 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,160 benchmark it's a pinball game after all 444 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,480 how hard can it be to run it turns out 445 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:26,000 not hard at all but if i don't show it 446 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:28,240 you may not know that 1080p high detail 447 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,039 and we've got well over 100 frames per 448 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,520 second no issues whatsoever here there 449 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:35,200 are thousands of games just like this 450 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,640 that really don't care that you're on 451 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,600 integrated graphics and they play 452 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,919 perfectly fine minecraft is insanely 453 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,919 popular and well worth testing on any 454 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:45,840 low end hardware for the millions and 455 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:49,520 millions of players out there who don't 456 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,760 all have rtx 3090s in their gaming pcs 457 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,160 it's true that shaders and other mods 458 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,320 will dramatically affect performance 459 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:00,080 however here we have the vanilla game 460 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,720 playing at 300 frames per second the one 461 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,960 percent low is just over 100 frames per 462 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,919 second we even have fancy graphics 463 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:10,080 turned on league of legends is another 464 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:12,720 game that runs very well on integrated 465 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,799 graphics i am showing this and some of 466 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,400 the other games not because i was 467 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,320 worried about it but because i know 468 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,360 there are lots of people out there who 469 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:24,480 don't know this and seeing is believing 470 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:26,720 1080p high detail and were over 200 471 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,679 frames per second what else needs to be 472 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,160 said 473 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:32,080 the mass effect franchise is an amazing 474 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,679 experience and well worth the play 475 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,240 through if you like story-based 476 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:38,320 role-playing games the recently released 477 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,320 legendary edition upgraded the game's 478 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,799 detail and made it easier to run on 479 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,880 modern systems while fixing a few old 480 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:48,480 bugs and issues in the game 481 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:51,039 here we have mass effect 3 at 1080p high 482 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:54,080 detail and it runs awesome no issues 483 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:56,880 with performance no input lag in combat 484 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,200 well worth your time to enjoy 485 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,120 assassin's creed syndicate is now four 486 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,520 games old in the assassin's creed 487 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:06,320 franchise so i honestly expected it to 488 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:09,360 run better than this you are watching 489 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,200 1080p low detail in a game that launched 490 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:13,600 in 2015 491 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,559 seven years ago yet performance is 492 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,320 frankly dreadful now i was able to 493 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:20,320 complete a mission and you could play 494 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,440 the game this way however i wouldn't 495 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,760 advise it we are averaging 30 frames per 496 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,400 second here but what that number doesn't 497 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,039 tell you is the input lag there is a 498 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,600 delay between pressing keys and having 499 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:35,360 actions happen i started to compensate 500 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,120 for it after a while however it's 501 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:39,840 noticeable when you've played this on 502 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:43,120 better hardware without it assassin's 503 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,679 creed origins odyssey and valhalla have 504 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:48,080 all released since syndicate came out 505 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:50,320 they of course don't run any better but 506 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,720 shockingly enough they don't really run 507 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,039 any worse either at least the built-in 508 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,360 benchmarks don't i didn't test live 509 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:58,799 gameplay on odyssey and valhalla so keep 510 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,440 that in mind 511 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:03,280 this chart shows three of the last four 512 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,840 games tested in the assassin's creed 513 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,000 series the latter two being the built-in 514 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,679 benchmarks as i noted before 515 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,919 none of these belong on integrated 516 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:14,080 graphics get a dedicated graphics card 517 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:18,000 if you want to play assassin's creed 518 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,960 cyberpunk 2077 is an interesting game so 519 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,679 much promise so many broken promises but 520 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:27,200 that's not important right now if ever 521 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:30,640 there was a game born for the rtx 3090 522 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:33,280 this is it so why test it here it's this 523 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:36,880 generation's does it run crisis 524 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:39,120 you're watching 1080p a low detail at 50 525 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,919 render resolution don't adjust your 526 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:43,919 monitor yes it really looks this bad i 527 00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:46,240 think sonic adventure on the sega 528 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:48,559 dreamcast would actually be sharper than 529 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,559 this it's really muddy and it looks like 530 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:53,600 someone smeared grease all over the 531 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:55,919 screen on the plus side we're getting 45 532 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,320 frames per second average on the 533 00:21:55,919 --> 00:22:00,400 downside we're getting 25 in the one 534 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,640 percent low and the game looks like it 535 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,799 belongs on the original xbox so the 536 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:09,440 short version is don't bother 537 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:12,480 but wait you all say i'm using ddr4 3600 538 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,480 cl 18. if i had tighter timings on the 539 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,440 ram this would run better 540 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,240 oh really you think so 541 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,400 i get this comment a lot so let's take a 542 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,640 look and see just how much difference 543 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,720 ram speed makes 544 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,120 this is three different tests in the 545 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:34,240 same area of the game doing the same 546 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:37,919 stuff on the top we have ddr4 3200 cl 14 547 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,640 this is premium samsung bdi memory g 548 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:43,280 skill flare x to be specific 549 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:48,080 in the middle we have a high-end g-skill 550 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:50,559 trident z kit with ddr4 3600 cl 16 and 551 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,600 on the bottom we have our standard 3600 552 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:55,919 cl 18 ram 553 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,000 note that we actually used three 554 00:22:55,919 --> 00:23:00,559 different ram kits here rated for these 555 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,880 speeds this is not one kit with a few 556 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:06,559 timings tweaked here's the chart with 557 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,799 the results oh yeah ram really makes a 558 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,360 massive difference i've seen this 559 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:13,919 comment so often i felt it needed to be 560 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,919 knocked down 561 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,440 because it really really needs to be 562 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,600 debunked yes technically in some 563 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,200 specific benchmarks it'll make a small 564 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,200 difference that makes a pre-line on a 565 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,640 benchmark chart but in the real world 566 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,039 you're looking at a few percentage 567 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,080 points difference at best let's try 568 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:36,080 another game assassin's creed valhalla 569 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:40,720 again you've got 3200 cl-14 on the top 570 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:43,840 3600 cl 16 in the middle and 3600 cl 18 571 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,440 on the bottom is there a difference yes 572 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,320 is there a noticeable difference when 573 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:52,640 the numbers aren't on the screen no 574 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:55,200 here is the chart 33 34 and 31 frames 575 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,520 per second those are rounding errors 576 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,360 nothing more nothing less why don't we 577 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,640 try another game surely we'll see a 578 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:03,840 difference then 579 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,880 shadow of the tomb raider 1080p lowest 580 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:10,720 detail and the positions are the same 581 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:14,400 3200 cl14 on the top 3600 cl 16 in the 582 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:18,000 middle and 3600 cl 18 on the bottom 583 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:21,039 here is the chart of those results 38 40 584 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,520 and 38. oh yeah that's worth overpaying 585 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:25,679 for fancy ram i can hear the chuckle 586 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:29,440 heads in the back already 587 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:32,240 but tech you didn't test 3600 cl 14 but 588 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,000 you didn't test 3 800 cl 14 with 589 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,159 infinity fabric turned to one-to-one 590 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,760 with custom settings well you're not 591 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:41,520 wrong 592 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:44,799 first 3600 cl 14 will add one or two 593 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,720 frames per second to the 3600 cl 16 594 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:50,000 numbers at the cost of some very 595 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:54,720 expensive ram how expensive at the time 596 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:58,480 of filming 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3600 cl 597 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:05,120 18 was 85 on newegg 598 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:07,520 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3600 cl 14 was 230 599 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:12,000 that is almost three times as expensive 600 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:13,919 or 145 dollars more to gain two to four 601 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,120 frames per second in games that we're 602 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:19,200 only running at 30 to begin with or 4 to 603 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:22,480 8 frames per second that we're running 604 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,720 just fine at 60 to 100 frames per second 605 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:28,159 want to know why that's the dumbest idea 606 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:31,679 in the history of dumb ideas 150 buys 607 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:34,000 you a used gtx 1070 on ebay which 608 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:36,000 absolutely demolishes the performance of 609 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,320 the vega 8 graphics and renders the 610 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 entire ram speed conversation a 611 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,320 pointless issue 612 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,000 don't spend a hundred and forty five 613 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,000 dollars to get five percent more 614 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,080 performance spend a hundred and fifty 615 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,480 dollars to get five hundred percent more 616 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,039 performance that concludes the live 617 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,840 gameplay testing part of this video but 618 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:57,760 hold on we do have more tests done using 619 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,520 other game's built-in benchmarks we 620 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,679 won't show you the footage or this would 621 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,200 be longer than lord of the rings the 622 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:06,159 special edition 623 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,960 this chart of 15 games tested shows the 624 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:10,640 games we tested on low detail the 625 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,880 averages are first i'll show you the one 626 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,200 percent lows in just a minute a few 627 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,440 games run really well we've already 628 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,159 covered call of duty infinite warfare 629 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,279 but others such as rainbow six siege no 630 00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:26,400 1800 and world war z will run just fine 631 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:30,000 here others such as watchdogs legion 632 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,000 horizon zero dawn and dirt 5 will not 633 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,799 those games need a dedicated graphics 634 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,360 card here are the 1 low numbers on the 635 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:40,400 same 15 games half of these are really 636 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,880 playable some are just okay and some are 637 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,360 terrible moving on to the 12 games that 638 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,200 we tested at high detail most of these 639 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,760 we showed you already but now you can 640 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,520 see the final numbers in chart form i'll 641 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,279 use this moment to remind you all that 642 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120 if you want to see image versions of 643 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,440 these charts early please consider 644 00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:00,640 supporting us on patreon for either two 645 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,640 dollars per month or 20 a year these are 646 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,200 the one percent low numbers of the 12 647 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,000 games tested at high detail some hold up 648 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,159 pretty well others fall down pretty hard 649 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,440 in fairness star wars the old republic 650 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:16,159 isn't this cpu's fault and rtx 3090 will 651 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,240 do this at times it's just that game 652 00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:20,720 mass effect dipped mostly from scene 653 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,120 transitions and so on three games were 654 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,840 tested at medium detail you can see them 655 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:28,080 on their own chart here xcom 2 really 656 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,399 did disappoint a shame because it's such 657 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,640 a fun game the other two ran without 658 00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:35,679 complaint if you take nothing else away 659 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,000 from this video take this one point 660 00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:43,279 whatever your hardware is be it this 661 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:47,840 5700 g an i5 10 400 with an rx 580 or an 662 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:49,600 i5 2400 and a gt 1030 game selection is 663 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,720 everything when it comes to your overall 664 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,640 experience 665 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,440 run games your hardware is designed to 666 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,159 run and avoid games that it is not 667 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,320 cyberpunk 2077 may have been a 668 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:02,320 disappointment overall however it was 669 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,279 good enough to get two full playthroughs 670 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,159 from me with over 300 hours played if 671 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:11,760 ever there was a game that deserves a 34 672 00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:14,880 inch 1440p ultrawide monitor and an rtx 673 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,200 3090 it's cyberpunk on the other end of 674 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,520 the spectrum older games like call of 675 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,320 duty infinite warfare are both cheap to 676 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,080 buy and very easy to play on the ryzen 7 677 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,559 5700g 678 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:31,360 or something like an i5 3450 and an r9 679 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:34,480 370 if you're rocking older hardware the 680 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:36,880 true benefit to the 5700g is not the 681 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,520 integrated graphics for modern games now 682 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,279 it's the 8 zen 3 cores for when you want 683 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:47,120 to drop 150 684 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:48,799 on a gtx 1070 or 400 on an rx 6700 xt 685 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,000 and finally play assassin's creed 686 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:54,080 valhalla regarding cpu upgrades this 687 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,440 really only makes sense for anyone 688 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:01,120 currently running a ryzen 3 2200g or 689 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,200 perhaps a ryzen 5 3400g and otherwise 690 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,320 doesn't have a graphics card you move 691 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,159 from zen one or zen plus to zen three 692 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,399 you double your core count and you 693 00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:12,559 double or quadruple your thread count 694 00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:13,760 and for a reasonable price all things 695 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:16,320 considered 696 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:20,080 if you are currently running a ryzen 5 697 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:23,200 1600 or a ryzen 5 2600 and you want an 698 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,799 upgrade to zen 3 and you already have a 699 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:30,559 dedicated graphics card skip the 5700g 700 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:33,919 and either get the ryzen 7 5700x or the 701 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:36,799 ryzen 9 5900x either would be a solid 702 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:37,679 upgrade to any 1000 or 2000 based ryzen 703 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:39,919 system 704 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:43,520 would i build a new system today based 705 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:46,720 on the 5700g in a word no 706 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,039 two reasons number one zen4 is going to 707 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,200 launch in about eight weeks it'll be a 708 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:53,039 faster cpu cores it'll have faster 709 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,520 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to the very end of this video two gold 753 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,679 stars for all of you still here like 754 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960 this video if you like it share it with 755 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:42,559 your friends if you love it remember to 756 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,559 subscribe to the channel with a huge red 757 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,080 button directly below hit the join 758 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,919 button for a bunch of benefits and to 759 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,840 directly support the channel check the 760 00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:52,240 links down in the video description 761 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,679 affiliate links to amazon newegg and 762 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440 ebay are down there they cost you 763 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:57,200 nothing to click on but if you click on 764 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,120 them before you buy something whether 765 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,120 it's this cpu whether it's something 766 00:31:59,120 --> 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00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,159 scripts and benchmark charts in all of 781 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,240 our videos including the ones that you 782 00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:34,480 saw here and you will also find links 783 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,240 down there to our various social media 784 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,840 thank you all so very much for watching 785 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:42,559 i will see all of you next time 786 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,679 hello and welcome to tech deals computer 787 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,679 gaming has has a 788 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,679 booyah 789 00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:51,919 when you get first try but when you get 790 00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:54,080 it you get it 791 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:56,399 i showed you battlefield 5 at the 792 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,559 beginning at the start of the video 793 00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:58,559 and 794 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:04,799 to be fair infinite warfare came out in 795 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,440 2016 so that helps a lot when it comes 796 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:09,760 to performance battlefield 5 came out in 797 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,799 2018 which is why the primary the 798 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,919 reasons 799 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,919 is this it's the 800 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:23,440 new games are harder to run film at 11. 801 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:26,360 from intel in the form of the i7 980 and 802 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,200 amd in the form of the phenom 803 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,640 x216 that's not what the words say on 804 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,440 the screen 805 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,519 it contains eight zen three cores that 806 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,080 are hyper threaded giving us a total of 807 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:39,120 16 threads to work with to works with 808 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,080 top 809 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:45,679 it's the works burger 810 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,320 the 5700g does come with a cooler in the 811 00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:50,880 box however you'd be well served to buy 812 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,519 something better a 20 813 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,519 deep cool 814 00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,679 we have to talk about motherboard 815 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,679 support because this is one key area 816 00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:03,120 that has changed dramatically since the 817 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:05,760 cpu launched at launched the zen 3 chips 818 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,119 only officially supported 500 series 819 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,200 motherboards the a520 the b550 and the 820 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:13,359 x570 chipsets 821 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,320 since then amd has added official 822 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:18,079 support for zen 3 to the entire line of 823 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,200 chipsets that they've released going all 824 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:22,200 the way back to the x370 825 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,599 still ad-libbing and still getting it 826 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,760 wrong 827 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:31,760 part 38 take five 828 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:37,440 all of our testing today was done on 829 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,839 this asus rog strix x470-f 830 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,879 motherboard on that test bench right 831 00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:45,359 back there 832 00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:45,359 why not test on our x570 text 833 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,679 text bench 834 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,760 what follows now is a lot of benchmarks 835 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,679 of live gameplay rather than canned 836 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,800 benchmarks the results for all of which 837 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,720 will be charts will be in charts 838 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,119 there will be charts 839 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:05,760 let there be charts 840 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:08,720 3600 cl 14 will add one or two frames 841 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,720 per second to the cl 30 to the cl 16. 842 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:12,240 damn it 843 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,320 good lord 844 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,560 who wrote the script 845 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,200 the script is so long 846 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,280 if anybody is still watching 847 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,800 you're the bonus gold star to you 848 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,160 because that's ridiculous 849 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:30,760 who wrote a 100 and some mod part script 850 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,760 seven pages over 5000 words 851 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:47,329 [Music] 852 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,079 you 63658

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