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box today we have a very rare thing a
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thing that didn't exist until about a
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week ago and that thing is an AMD am5
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motherboard that doesn't cost more than
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most mid-range CPUs as rock recently let
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out a quiet squeaker a 125 us b650
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motherboard
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called the b650m dash hdv M2 pretty
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catchy name m.2 sorry a pretty catchy
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name that one and unfortunately if
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there's anything we know about ASRock
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motherboards it's at their hdv series is
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complete trash at least that's been the
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case for the last few models that we've
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checked out
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so will this b650 version be any
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different well we bought one to find out
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but before we do today's sponsor spot is
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brought to you by thermal Grizzly and
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their new 12th gen CPU contact frame by
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debauer it's well known that the
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integrated loading mechanism or ilm of
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the LJ 1700 sockets Ben's 12th gen CPUs
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leading to an uneven contact surface
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that reduces cooling performance solving
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this issue the contact frame replaces
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the ilm allowing for a much more even
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contact with the cpu's IHS and the base
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of your cooler which in turn reduces
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operating temperatures installations
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quick and easy and thanks to the use of
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anodized aluminum the contact frame is
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non-conductive and then for those of you
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who wish to further maximize contact
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thermal Grizzly now offers an optional
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lapping tool so for more information
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please check the link in the video
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description
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okay so prior to the release of this
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more affordable ASRock b650 motherboard
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the cheapest offering from them was the
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b650 mpg riptide at 170 us and it's
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actually quite a solid board but at 170
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it's also very expensive as an entry
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point gigabyte did manage to undercut
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ASRock with the excellent b650m ds3h 160
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and I guess that didn't sit well with
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ASRock that said gigabytes also quietly
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let out the b650mk and that's also
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targeting the 125 us price point and I
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have ordered one so you can expect some
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coverage in the near future
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so with a Target price of 125 U.S the
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hdv is as you might have expected very
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much a Bare Bones motherboard still
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while you might only be getting two dim
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slots there's a pcie 5.0 m.2 along with
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a second PCI 4.0 m.2 two pcie times 16
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slots both of which are PCO 4.0 for a
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Time 16 times 4 configuration the i o is
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very basic there's four USB 2 ports two
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USB 3.25 gigabits per second type A
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ports and a single USB 3.2 5 gigabits
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per second type c Port there's also a
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bios flashback button along with 2.5
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gigabit Lan using a real Tech controller
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so the Bare Essentials here for sure
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there's nothing that fancy and on board
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there's a USB 3.2 10 gigabits per second
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type c header but that's really as good
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as it gets so no 20 gigabits per second
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or faster USB here you're also getting
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just four SATA ports so that's probably
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fine on an m80x motherboard
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of course the key concern here is the
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vrm as this is traditionally where
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asrock's hdv series of motherboards have
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failed miserably the good news though
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being that ASRock lists an eight plus
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two plus one power design for the b650
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hdv so it can't be all that bad right or
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can it now it's probably fine ASRock is
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using the Vishay
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sic-654 50 amp power stages they went
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with a dozen of these power stages on
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the b650m PG Riptide and it performed
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quite well so I think they'll get away
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with eight here but of course we will be
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testing that shortly meanwhile the vrm
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heatsinks they're not huge certainly
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smaller than what we found on the
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riptide so it's going to be really
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interesting to see how this board
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handles the ryzen 9 7950x and speaking
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of which let's get on with that for
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testing I am using the gigabyte auris
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c500 glass case with the gigabyte UD
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1000 GM power supply and for cooling the
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gigabyte auris water Force X360
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millimeter arrow and thank you to
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gigabyte from providing all that
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hardware for our testing it made the job
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a bit easier then for recording
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temperatures I'm using a digital
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thermometer with k-type thermocouples
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and I'll be reporting the rear Peak PCB
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temperature and finally I'm not
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reporting delta T over ambient Stone
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maintain at room temperature of 21
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degrees and to ensure a constant ambient
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temperature a thermocouple is positioned
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next to the test system as for the
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stress test I am using the ryzen 97950x
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and for load cinebench which was looped
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for an hour at which point I'm reporting
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the maximum PCB temperature again
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recorded using k-type thermocouples
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okay so out of the box the hdv has an 85
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degree thermal limit for the CPU which
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is essentially a power limit though
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oddly this limit has been set 10 degrees
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higher than the one found on the riptide
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thankfully though in that example the
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limit was completely unnecessary as the
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Riptides of our impact at just 76
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degrees with the thermal limit removed
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and for those of you unaware the
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standard thermal limit or TJ Maxx which
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is set by AMD is 95 degrees for the zen4
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processors and this affords the CPU a
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bit more Headroom when it comes to power
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usage for those of you wanting to change
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the configuration for the hdv from 85
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degrees to the standard 95 degrees you
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merely need to enter the BIOS and change
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the TJ Maxx it's very quick and easy to
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do so now despite packing four fewer 50
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amp power stages and a smaller varum
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heatsink than the riptide the hdv ran
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just three degrees hotter at 79 degrees
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so just scraping it under 80 degrees
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there for the peak temperature in our
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testing which is certainly an acceptable
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result and this means the hdv will be
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able to handle the 7950x at full power
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and basically any environment humans can
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survive without having to strip down to
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their underwear so that is very handy
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now I should probably expect with the 85
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degree thermal limit in place the hdv is
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slightly slower than it would be
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otherwise in the cinema R23 multi-core
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test with the out of the box power limit
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removed though the score was boosted by
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a mere three percent and now the 7950x
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is performing as expected it's really a
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trivial difference and I'm not really
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sure why ASRock keeps releasing boards
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that can run at full power with an
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artificial limit that said it's really
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not a big deal as I've said given how
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close the performance is anyway just a
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bit of an odd Choice there
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interestingly the thermal limit did
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slightly reduce single core performance
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though we're only looking at a single
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percentage difference for this workload
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and this means for lightly threaded
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games there shouldn't be any real
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difference between the 85 degree thermal
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Limit Out of the Box configuration and
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the standard 95 degree configuration and
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of course we did only see a three
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percent margin in the multi-core test so
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again overall this really isn't a big
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deal
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as for gaming the hdv does very well
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relative to other ASRock MSI and Asus
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boards with the limits removed we went
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from 249 fps to 251 FPS which is still
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well done on the gigabyte boards due to
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gigabytes more aggressive memory tuning
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out of the box which results in a five
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percent boost here
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performance on Watchdogs Legion is much
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similar between the various b650 boards
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and again the hdv performed very well
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allowing for 155 FPS on average with the
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power limits removed now this is really
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interesting using our ddr5 6000cl30
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memory with Expo loaded the hdv took on
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average just 16 seconds to load Windows
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11. and this is from pushing the power
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button to the system booting up and
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hitting the Windows desktop just 16
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seconds that took interestingly it was a
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few seconds slower using the standard
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out of the box configuration but overall
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either configuration was very fast and I
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should note that all of the comparative
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data featured in this video from the
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previously tested b650 motherboards was
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done so in many instances using older
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boss revisions that have possibly now
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been updated that said not all the
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boards have been updated yet and the hdv
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is still using ajisa
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1.0.0.5 C but MSI for example has now
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updated their b650 range and are
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claiming improved boot time so that's
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something that I'll have to retest when
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I get time but even so sub 20 second
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load times here for the hdv is
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incredible so much so that I ended up
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recording a little video on posted it to
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Twitter when I first discovered just how
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fast this thing could load into Windows
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11 from hitting the power button and I
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should just note that it might not be
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this fast with every memory kit on the
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qualified vendor list as it was with RG
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skill ddr5 6000 memory but even so this
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result is unlike anything we've seen
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previously from an am5 motherboard using
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this exact memory kit so I do Wonder
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just how much the Dual memory dim design
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helps with this
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so there you have it an ASRock hdv
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motherboard that's actually really good
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what a time to be alive maybe it's all
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our past content that help lead here can
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we take full credit for it
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I'm going to take full credit for it I
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think the only slight bit of
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disappointing news here as this board
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was suggested to be 125 us motherboard
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so that was the I believe the Target
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price 125 us but at present it's selling
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for more like a hundred and forty
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dollars U.S could just be an early
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introductory price not sure on that one
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but it is still around 20 U.S less than
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the gigabyte b650m ds3h
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still that's quite an improvement on
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price and they are similar equipped
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boards the gigabyte b650 mdh3h does
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offer greater flexibility when it comes
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to memory expansion but with the hdv you
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are getting extra stuff like PCA 5.0 to
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one of the m.2s a better pcie
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configuration so I'd say the 20 discount
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does make the ASRock model the more
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attractive option having said I love
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that though gigabytes b650 MK can be had
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for 130 right now which is ten dollars
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less than the hdv so I am Keen to check
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that one out as for which zen4 processor
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makes sense to pair with asrock's new
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Ultra affordable hdv well anything will
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work just fine as we saw but I imagine
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those focusing on productivity and
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therefore opting for a 12 or 16 core
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ryzen 9 part this board's probably not
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going to be all that appealing to you
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you'll likely want better pcie m.2 and
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USB support meaning 200 plus am5 boards
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will be more attractive rather I see the
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hdv being a great board for gamers
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something to pair with the 230 us ryzen
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5 7 600 while also having the option to
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upgrade in the future in the comfort of
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knowing that the board can handle 170
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watt ryzen processors with ease and with
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multiple years of support promised you
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should have a strong upgrade path ahead
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of you it's probably also not a bad
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value board for the ryzen 7 at 7 7800x
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3D which will be released shortly though
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I'd probably suggest going for one of
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the am5 boards priced closer to 200 if
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you're going to spend 450 us on your CPU
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the extra 60 also buys you some nicer
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features that should see the platform
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age a bit better
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whatever the case it's good to see the
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ASRock b650m Dash hdv m.2 works well
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with no vrm concerns to speak of so big
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thank you to our patreon floatplane DOT
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m.2 members for enabling us to buy this
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Hardware as rock were sending us aboard
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initially I did ask them for a ball when
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this thing was first announced and they
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told us they didn't have samples and
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they did nothing to provide a board
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which usually means this thing's low end
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and not particularly good and therefore
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we don't want to promote it which
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thankfully wasn't the case this time
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anyway to ASRock to their credit they
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did get back to me about a week ago and
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so we have samples now and we're sending
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a board out but that board hasn't
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arrived yet so I purchased this one
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about a week before they told me they
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could get us aboard so we were able to
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get this board a bit earlier do the
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video and yeah so big thank you to the
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people who support the channel because
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it meant we were able to get this
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content at least out to you a bit sooner
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and we were able to review a retail
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sample for whatever that's worth but
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yeah also thanks to ASRock for for
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sending us the boards of it we'll have
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two of these now so I guess I can test
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the uh review sample as well and see how
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it compares to the retail board but
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anyway good stuff there if you would
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like to become a float plane or patreon
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member and support the channel directly
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and get some cool perks in return flight
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