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there are a ton of CPUs available right
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now and we're looking at the best CPUs
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for 2023 and this year is particularly
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confusing in some ways it's a good
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problem because that means there are a
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lot of options the difference the past
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couple of years versus the many years
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prior is that last generation Parts
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remain abundant right now alongside new
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components this creates kind of an odd
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Schism down the stack where there's
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clear good options but from a last
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generation so you're either buying into
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an end of life platform or hopefully you
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already own it and you're just kind of
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doing a drop and upgrade and then the
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new stuff so we're going to be walking
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you through the best CPUs we're looking
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at best overall we'll be going over best
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gaming which is a very simple category
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talking about the best balance or best
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budget options HDT options and a
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category we particularly like which is
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most power efficient and we have to
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choose two CPUs because one of them is
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unattainably expensive before that this
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video is brought to you by the thermal T
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swappable blade fans available in one
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120 and 140 mm sizes the new thermal
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take fans include three sets of
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swappable blades so that even as you
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change builds or cases you can ensure
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the LEDs are always presented on their
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best side the swappable blades allow
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Builders to get the fan frame out of the
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way of the lights by reversing the blade
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direction to reconfigure the fan as push
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or pull while keeping the struts
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relatively hidden and keeping the fan
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frame oriented One Way swapping blades
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is done by applying pressure evenly to
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opposite sides then pressing until the
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click each fan also has pin to- pad
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connections for kist daisy chaining and
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you can learn more at the link in the
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description below so welcome back to our
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best of Roundup series we do these at
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the end of every year and there's a lot
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to catch up on to set the expectation
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for this particular video and all the
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other best ofs you'll see coming up this
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is intended to get people up to speed as
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quickly as possible we have run
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thousands of tests over the past year
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actually if you count the individual
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test passes we're in the many tens of
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thousands at this point uh We've looked
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at dozens of parts and it's hard for us
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to keep track of we have to constantly
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reference the data and so the purpose of
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these videos is one to refresh ourselves
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on the data but also get everybody who's
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been out of the market for a couple
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years back up the speed quickly or even
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if you followed it closely just a
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reminder because a lot of people will
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build their system check out for a few
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years come back in and it's what
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happened so that's what this is intended
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to help with is to Res situate you if
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you want the individual in-depth reviews
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for any of the components we're talking
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about today you can find those Linked In
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the description below or search the
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channel for them uh we will be including
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some charts to reinforce a couple of key
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points that we think are important even
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if you're maybe not as much of an
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Enthusiast user but if you want all of
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the charts you can go back and check
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through the individual reviews we'll
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also have links to the processors on
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Amazon or new EG and the point here is
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to give a fly over and help you come to
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some conclusions quickly so let's get
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started with our first category the
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first award category is for the best
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overall CPU of 2023 this one goes
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handily to the AMD ryzen 7 7800x 3D CPU
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which has had price reductions down to
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around
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$360 this CPU is a double winner because
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it also takes our best gaming CPU
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category later because of that for best
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overall we'll focus mostly on the
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non-gaming aspects of the 78 x3d the
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7800 x3d is priced right around where
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high-end gaming CPUs lawn held pricing
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in the pre I9 and R9 days and therefore
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bringing chart leading frame rate back
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to a more normal price point for a
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high-end machine they're also single CCD
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kind of simplifying things this makes
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scheduling easier and it does streamline
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the setup as opposed to something like a
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dual CCD 750 x3d or Intel's case a peor
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ecore design although those have matured
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over the years the 7800 x3d isn't a
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leader in production benchmarks like in
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blender but it's more than acceptable
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while still leading in gaming there's a
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balanced category for CPUs that sit in
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the middle a little bit better later but
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this one still does well in some of
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these categories like Photoshop for
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example so the x3d CPUs can punch up
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depending on the workload another
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non-gaming contributing factor is the
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efficiency the 7800 x2d is an extremely
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efficient part and ranked right behind
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the new thread rer parts that blew the
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doors open in this category because of
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the efficiency it's also relatively easy
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to tame thermally the power consumption
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in total is relatively low compared to
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sort of modern high-end CPUs you don't
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need a 360 mil CLC to cool the 7800 x2d
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reducing cost barrier to entry and
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opening up cooler options the 7800 x3d
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also particularly stands out for anyone
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trying to max out frame rate in gaming
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with a 7800 XTX or an RTX 490 where you
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really want to minimize the bottlenecks
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as much as possible we'll come back to
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that in the gaming category though the
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next category is for the most balanced
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CPU this one goes to the i5k skew CPUs
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the 13600 K or 14600 k depending on
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whichever is cheaper because they're
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basically the same or you can buy the KF
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to save a little more money and get rid
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of the igp the most balanced category is
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specifically awaiting of all tests we
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run for GN reviews but also considering
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the price this means we're factoring in
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the $270 price of a 13600 K right now as
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we write this as an example which also
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makes it extremely competitive from that
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price and value standpoint we're also
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looking closely at that non-gaming
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performance so even though the name is a
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generation old on the 13600 K the CPU
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isn't it's perfectly good as a new chip
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and it's balanced between price gaming
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performance and production performance
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as an example we found the 14600 K
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scored 747 points in our aggregate Adobe
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Premier benchmarks putting it ahead of
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the 7800x 3D and about tied with the
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7700x the CPU was likewise particularly
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competitive in our blender rendering
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Benchmark where the pair completed in
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less time than the 7700 X and 7800x 3D
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the 137 and 147 also do well here uh but
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the pricing kind of puts them out of the
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best balanced category also they're a
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little more power hungry the gaming
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performance is also strong for the price
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with our pre patched Starfield numbers
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which were all run with the same version
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of the game we had them at 111 to 112
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FPS for the I5 it's behind the 78 x3d
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but with higher production workload
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performance in many but not all cases
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and a lower price it is balanced there
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are other examples bers Gate 3
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puts them alongside the powerful 5800
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x3d the 58 x3d got a different award but
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it doesn't get our balanced one
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primarily due to that weaker production
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performance while these I5 CPUs are not
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the most exciting or the best in any
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single category they do fulfill an
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overall well-rounded performance and
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value profile next up is the award for
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best gaming CPU this one goes to the AMD
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ryzen 7 7800 x3d the category is as
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basic as it can be B it considers only
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the absolute highest performing CPU in
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games we've tested that means we're
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looking at CPUs for FPS snobs while
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there are other options that'll get you
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80% of the performance those aren't
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considered here that makes this one
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heavily numbers based first some basics
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for anyone who's been out of the market
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for a little while the R7 7800 x3d is a
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socket am5 CPU that uses AMD stackable
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cash or vcash which we've found to have
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a large impact on gaming performance
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it's an 8 core 16 thread part with 96
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megab of L3 cach and it's currently
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around $360 at the time of filming with
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occasional small discounts on new EG and
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Amazon it's down from $450 for its
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launch MSRP because this is a purely
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numbers-based category let's look at
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some recent gaming Benchmark charts in
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the new cyberpunk Phantom Liberty
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expansion that probably a lot of you
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will be playing during the holidays the
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7800 XD led the chart it was about tied
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with the 7950 xrd although it carried
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better. 1% lows we've run the 7950 XD
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through this game several times now and
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we found that it always encounters at
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least a couple sluggish frame times run
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to run despite an overall good average
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which is what contributes to that we
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think this mostly has to do with
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scheduling either way though the 7800
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x2d is meaningfully ahead of everything
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here and it's not even the most
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expensive sort gaming Focus CPU on the
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chart the 5800 x3d would get you most of
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the way there as an upgrade especially
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if you have am4 but Intel's 14900 K and
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this one leaves a relatively large gap
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to the 7800 x3d especially when you do
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consider the price in Stellaris turntime
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simulation the 7800 x3d was roughly tied
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with the rest of the chart leaders this
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one's measured in the time to complete
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the test it's up there with the 14700 K
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14900 K and 7950 x3d all of which are
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roughly within error of each other
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balers Gate 3 had the 7950 xpd ahead on
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a technicality at 1080p but it was
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ultimately within margin of error you'll
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actually see in the next chart how close
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they are the 7800 x2d and 7950 x2d both
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establish a relatively wide gap between
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themselves and the next CPU which is the
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4900 K now relatively here is the
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important word it's not meaningful you
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won't notice this Gap especially or
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particularly in this game but if you
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glance at the rest of the chart you'll
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notice a much more gradual sort of fall
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off of the blue bar down the chart if
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you look at 144p you'll see that the 78
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x3d is still at the top it retains all
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of its performance it's the same as the
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7950 x3d and that's in spite of an
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increase in GPU load finally we'll show
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Starfield as a counter example this was
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before the most recent patches so new
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numbers will be a little higher but all
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of these were run on the same game
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version so our tests here are directly
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comparable to each other though a game
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update will maybe boost the Baseline
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Intel kept a lead here the 14900 K was
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ahead of the 7800 X 3D by 15% it's not
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always the best but the 78 x3d is the
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best often enough that it's our go-to
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for a high-end gaming machine so uh
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overall this one gets our best gaming
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CPU award although the extra cash
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doesn't benefit this CPU and most of our
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production uction workloads the core
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count allows it to remain a good overall
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option if you're editing videos or
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running a lot of file compression and
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decompression workloads the CPU does
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fine especially if you're mostly gaming
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this will most likely bottleneck you on
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a GPU if you don't go highend enough so
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to fully leverage the CPU consider a
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higher-end GPU we'd be looking in the
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RTX 470 TI or RX 7900 XT and up
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categories especially although you could
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obviously pair it with anything we
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recently Revisited the rx700 XT on the
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channel and the website as well has an
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article on G x.net if you want to see
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how that GPU does today versus some
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Alternatives and you can learn more
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about the 78 x3d in our Standalone
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review at the link below next up is for
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the best upgrade we added this category
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last year we're defining this as the
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best CPU that can drop into a board of a
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past generation either Intel or AMD but
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it's probably no surprise that the
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winner is the R7 5800 X 3D and we hope
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that this encourages both AMD and Intel
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to continue offering good upgrade
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options in the future it's falling out
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of of practice in the last decade or so
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but it's great for consumers and often
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highly cost effective for a stricter
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budget our recent rise in 200000 R visit
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showed just how much room there still is
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to bring am4 forward especially in
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gaming the best part is that a lot of
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the boards from the prior rizing
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Generations can support the xvd CPU
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already although you should check the
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CPU support list for your board and
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update BIOS before pulling your old CPU
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many of the boards that support the R7
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2700 the R5 3600 obviously the 5000
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series CPUs will run the 5800 XP without
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issues and the fact that it's relatively
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low power for the performance means that
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even things like uh a moderate vrm will
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be able to keep up as long as it's not
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too bad even some of the older r7700 era
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boards on x370 era chipsets can work
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although it's a little more spotty for
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the bio support if we look at a couple
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gaming charts from our 2700x revisit you
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can see how you'll get a performance
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bump from those older CPUs that feels
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like a totally new PC build especially
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if you're coupling it with a drop in GPU
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upgrade so you can save on the ram the
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motherboard the case maybe you can keep
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the power supply depends on how big you
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go on the GPU but there's a lot of
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cost-saving options here the 5800 x2d is
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also relatively low power consumption
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for its performance in an allcore
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workload which is heavier than gaming we
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had it at around 108 Watts that makes it
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easy to cool for a good $3 to $50 dual
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Tower air cooler something like the
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Peerless assassin you can check our CB
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cooler reviews for all that it's almost
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good enough for a modern build to but
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the board cost starts affecting value
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for a new system and buying into ddr4 at
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this point just feels kind of bad
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because you are dead ending yourself if
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you go that route but options on eBay
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may open things up and if you already
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have a bunch of ddr4 you go grab a $90
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used board or something we wouldn't
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necessarily recommend that route because
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this really makes the most sense as a
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drop in upgrade for an existing build it
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has a ton of cost savings high
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performance upgrade and if you can
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allocate some of that money money that
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would have been spent on all new
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components towards a better CPU and GPU
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alone then that might be the better
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option for you depends on how strict
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your budget is the fact that AMD has
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kept the platform alive this long is
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commendable and we hope to see this more
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going forward the environmental impact
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and the e-w impact is far lower and the
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value for existing owners of the
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platform is strong so the 5800 x2d gets
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our award for the best upgrade CPU this
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year the next award is for the most
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efficient CPU on the technicality of
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actually being the most efficient on the
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chart based on our testing that goes to
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the thread Ripper 7980x 64 core CPU when
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it's under an all core workload at
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$5,000 though this CPU costs more than a
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full gaming PC and they're totally
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different markets so we'll name the
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runner up as well that would be the r
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77800 x3d coming up again with an
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honorable mention going to the R9 7950 X
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in eco mode we have some previous tests
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for that they're not comparable to our
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newest Power efficiency test because
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we've updated all the software since
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then but it did post impressive results
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back when we tested Ecco mode the semi
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8X though that leads by a lot in
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workstation applications that fully
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scale on 64 cores the amount of time
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required to complete a given unit of
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work by the 7980x is impressive in our
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efficiency chart the 7980x posted a 12.9
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WTH hour result with the 7800 x2d
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previously being the most impressive
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modern CPU but for gaming that is out
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outside of utilizing eco mode or being
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this HDT part although the 5950 X
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remains a leader for its era but that's
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what earns the 7800 xvd the runner up
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status the
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7980x goes a bit deeper though we talked
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about this in our review so to keep it
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short the power utilization per core is
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exceptionally low due to the 0.84 to
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0.85 volts VC core during an all core
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operation when capped with a 350 watt
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default pvt these result results plus
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the multi-threaded efficacy in all core
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applications earn it the most efficient
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Award with the 7800 X getting a sort of
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Cav out a note here that it would be
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among the most efficient or often the
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most efficient in frame rate per watt
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efficiency if you wanted to look at it
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that way just because it runs a lot
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faster in games for frame rate than a
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7980x does Intel currently is way behind
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in all core efficiency for desktop class
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Parts the 300 wat flagships are propping
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up the highend CPU Cooler Market pretty
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well here the next acknowledgement goes
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to best budget CPU which is a really
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weird category this year we normally
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Target around the $ 150 to $200 price
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range in the past things like the 2600
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have made sense here or the 3600 this
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one was hard there aren't many current
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generation Options under $200 there's
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the R5 7600 non-x right around 200 bucks
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then the last gen r750 700x Intel has
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its I5 12600 K around $140 and there's
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also an R5 7500f that isn't officially
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out in the west the R5 5600 also was in
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our consideration here for its $130 to
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$140 pricing today and all of this makes
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choosing difficult because it's not as
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clear anymore as just you're buying the
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newest thing no matter what now in both
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CPU and GPU there are current and prior
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generation options that make sense in
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different situations well do this two
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ways if you're one of the many people on
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am4 but you can't afford a 5800 X 3D
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upgrade then the 5700x might be one of
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your best budget friendly options to get
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one final upgrade it has nearly
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identical performance to the 5800 X
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non-3d that is in gaming from the test
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we ran in our original 5700x review but
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it tends to be cheaper where price is a
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hard limiter it could be a worthwhile
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midst step if you have to stop short of
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the 5800 X 3DD and most people don't
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live near a micros Center to benefit
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from a 5600 x3d the 5600 makes less
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sense as an upgrade just because you'd
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have to be upgrading from pretty low on
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the stack and probably pretty far back
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and Rising while also being budget
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constraint so we'll give the best budget
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CPU for an upgrade option at least the
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5700x if you're keeping an old platform
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and you have to be cost constrained as
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for something new the r 57600 really is
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worth considering the ryzen 7000 series
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launched with high pricing that reduced
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a lot of the initial heal against prior
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Generations the 7600 is now at around
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$200 it's dropped about 30 bucks from
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when it launched and it's often within
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Striking Distance of the 7600 X if
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you're able to find a 7600 X at the same
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price you'll get a little bit more
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performance out of it because it is a
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little faster but the TDP is lower on
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the 7600 so there's maybe some benefit
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there too the next category is for the
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best high-end desktop CPU for this we
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don't mean the literal best as in the
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biggest number but instead what we think
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would provide a strong foundation for
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something like a video editing machine a
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CPU based rendering machine or something
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dealing with chromium like compiles
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we're naming the thread Ripper 7970 X
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here and the only reason we added this
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CPU to this listing is because we're
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probably going to switch to it for some
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of our editing stations it also did
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really well in Spec workstation
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performance for its Financial Services
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Benchmark but that's not an area we're
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familiar with in a professional sense we
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are very familiar with video though for
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our purposes the 7980x isn't really
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viable for video editing well Premiere
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has some known issues although those
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sound like they're getting fixed at the
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moment and additionally it's just really
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expensive but the 7 970x posted
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excellent Adobe Premiere results in the
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Puget bench while also posting
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particularly strong raw video Benchmark
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results and intraframe Benchmark results
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in that sense this is kind of a selfish
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pick we're planning to build the 797 X
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machine for the office because based on
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our hands-on experience with it we think
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it'd really help accelerate some of our
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video editing and rendering experiences
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this next award isn't just for a budget
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CPU but for the cheapest CPU that can
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still manage to play at least some games
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and is new we're back with an award
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that's getting increasingly difficult to
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assign each year as for best CPUs under
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a 100 bucks which goes to the Intel I3
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1200f right now we checked and at the
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moment the brand new CPU Options under
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$100 and again new are pretty slim
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there's the I3 1300f which is uh first
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of all not under $100 in the places
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we've checked it's like 110 to 120 but
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that one's problematic not just because
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it's over 100 bucks but also because
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it's not that distant from the 12100 F
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in performance and they better options
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that are not much more expensive than it
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the R5 4600g is also around but not
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competitive with the 1200f and it's
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intended use case with a discret GPU
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there's also the r 55500 but last time
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we reran that through the suite we found
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its value was worse than the 12100 F the
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12100 F was also just a better performer
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with boosts anywhere from 5% average fps
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to 31% in games or 2% to 35% 1% lows we
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had a lot of reservations about this
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type of FPS per dollar chart back when
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we showed it in the 13100 review and we
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explained it there if you're curious why
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these charts uh are kind of difficult to
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perfectly use but it does help
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illustrate a point using the pricing of
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the time that had the 1200f as one of
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the best value CPS available higher was
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better here in an absolute sense the I3
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1200f is more than capable of playing a
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lot of games it's not flashy it's not
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going to work great with every game
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that's the challenge with a cheap CPU
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but in a lot of them it's fine F1 2022
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for example foresting at the time had it
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at 270 FPS average it'll struggle in
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games probably like City skylines 2
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assuming you're not just completely
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bound up on the GPU as we showed in our
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testing or maybe Starfield with a
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similar caveat but overall for builds
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where you can't spend more money and
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especially where you're playing what
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typically would be classified as quote
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unquote ESP sports games this is a good
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starter option when financials are the
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bottleneck it really helps to give some
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perspective on how good a cheap CPU can
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be for just the basics and this really
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is an important category for PC parts
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every year we have people comment about
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well if you just spend another $40 but
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for a lot of people going from1 to $140
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is not a matter of just it's a make or
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break for the build everyone has a price
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limit on their hobbies and keeping the
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range as tunable as possible is good but
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have no Illusions about it the 12100 F
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will struggle in some games and it won't
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age as well that's the nature of
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spending as little as possible but it
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does fall into the good enough category
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for a lot of games right now and it does
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come in technically under $100 that also
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helps keep the board cost down the last
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category is a classic of ours it's for
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the biggest disappointment and
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congratulations to Intel they've won it
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this year the award goes to the entire
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14
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generation and that's sort of the first
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clue it's not a generational iteration
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it is however a numerical one which is
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fine except there wasn't any meaningful
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uplift the 14th series didn't do
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anything to advance performance in a way
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that mattered but it at least briefly
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reset the prices now the 13 and 14 CPUs
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have continued to shuffle around in
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price we're completely okay with product
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refreshes they should offer at least
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something they don't have to go as far
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as the steam OLED did where it's
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basically a new device but a little bit
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more than change the number would be
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good the 14700 K added some cores but
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even that didn't really help in a way
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that mattered the 14th series just isn't
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interesting and the temporarily High
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pricing was likewise unfortunate it
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actually made Intel look worse than if
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people just paid more attention to the
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13 series for example by attacking a
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number 50 to the end of it or something
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that's why the 14 series gets the
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biggest disappointment award this year
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so that's it for this one now the
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pricing is just before Black Friday is
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actually happening depending on how much
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that affects pricing you're going to see
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some numbers move around and if it if
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things drop in price which is what we're
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talking about then that may affect how
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much we value a processor versus
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something else of course so you'll keep
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an eye out on prices certainly as you're
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shopping but based on the numbers we've
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given you uh from our data we have and
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the prices we have today the decisions
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for the most part are pretty clear
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couple categories where it's less clear
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so best budget it's really not as
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straightforward as it used to be for us
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it used to be as simple as like R5 2600
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20000 bucks yep that's definitely the
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winner no questions about it assuming it
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didn't win best overall or something uh
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for that year but now there's just it's
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difficult because some of the best CPUs
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are a prior generation which feels a
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little weird to recommend now since
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they're EOL platforms there's a lot of
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value in buying into a new one if the
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companies well andd specifically let's
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let's be honest here uh do anything like
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Andy did with am4 that's the one
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category where it was kind of difficult
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to nail down a single CPU so we gave you
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the two options but uh that covers it
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for the best CPS again you can find the
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full reviews in the description below
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and those will get you the complete
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depth uh this one hopefully got you up
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to speed quickly so you can use it as a
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launching point to go do your next bit
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of research on the CPUs we've hopefully
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pointed you in the direction of and we
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have other roundups coming up so
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subscribe and check back regularly for
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all that of course you can also go to
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store. gam access.net to support us and
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our efforts with these pieces directly
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just a quick note too these are really
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fun to work on because I mean it's we
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lose sight of just how much how many
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products ship in the computer hardware
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Market over the course of a year and
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there's a lot that aren't that
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interesting but compiling the most
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interesting ones plus one in this case
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group of disappointing ones into a
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single video it's a lot of fun and it
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gets us back up to speed because there's
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so much going on it's hard to stay on
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top of it all the time so hopefully that
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helped you as well and we're enjoying it
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we'll do a couple more of these and uh
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we'll see you in the next one thanks for
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watching subscribe for more see you all
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next time
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