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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,040 [Music] 1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,040 there are a ton of CPUs available right 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,880 now and we're looking at the best CPUs 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,800 for 2023 and this year is particularly 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,000 confusing in some ways it's a good 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 problem because that means there are a 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,240 lot of options the difference the past 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,720 couple of years versus the many years 8 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:20,600 prior is that last generation Parts 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,519 remain abundant right now alongside new 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,359 components this creates kind of an odd 11 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:26,880 Schism down the stack where there's 12 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:29,160 clear good options but from a last 13 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,359 generation so you're either buying into 14 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,520 an end of life platform or hopefully you 15 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:34,719 already own it and you're just kind of 16 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,480 doing a drop and upgrade and then the 17 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:38,360 new stuff so we're going to be walking 18 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:40,440 you through the best CPUs we're looking 19 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,399 at best overall we'll be going over best 20 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,520 gaming which is a very simple category 21 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:47,640 talking about the best balance or best 22 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,559 budget options HDT options and a 23 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,719 category we particularly like which is 24 00:00:49,559 --> 00:00:54,039 most power efficient and we have to 25 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:56,120 choose two CPUs because one of them is 26 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:57,800 unattainably expensive before that this 27 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,920 video is brought to you by the thermal T 28 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,840 swappable blade fans available in one 29 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,600 120 and 140 mm sizes the new thermal 30 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,720 take fans include three sets of 31 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,880 swappable blades so that even as you 32 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,159 change builds or cases you can ensure 33 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,960 the LEDs are always presented on their 34 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,880 best side the swappable blades allow 35 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,880 Builders to get the fan frame out of the 36 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,960 way of the lights by reversing the blade 37 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,000 direction to reconfigure the fan as push 38 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,600 or pull while keeping the struts 39 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,720 relatively hidden and keeping the fan 40 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,759 frame oriented One Way swapping blades 41 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,159 is done by applying pressure evenly to 42 00:01:26,759 --> 00:01:31,920 opposite sides then pressing until the 43 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:33,960 click each fan also has pin to- pad 44 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,320 connections for kist daisy chaining and 45 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:37,159 you can learn more at the link in the 46 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:38,720 description below so welcome back to our 47 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:40,720 best of Roundup series we do these at 48 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,119 the end of every year and there's a lot 49 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,759 to catch up on to set the expectation 50 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:47,040 for this particular video and all the 51 00:01:44,759 --> 00:01:49,000 other best ofs you'll see coming up this 52 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,360 is intended to get people up to speed as 53 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,200 quickly as possible we have run 54 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,240 thousands of tests over the past year 55 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 actually if you count the individual 56 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,920 test passes we're in the many tens of 57 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,159 thousands at this point uh We've looked 58 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,560 at dozens of parts and it's hard for us 59 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:04,640 to keep track of we have to constantly 60 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,280 reference the data and so the purpose of 61 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,319 these videos is one to refresh ourselves 62 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,599 on the data but also get everybody who's 63 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:12,640 been out of the market for a couple 64 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:14,640 years back up the speed quickly or even 65 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:17,000 if you followed it closely just a 66 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:18,920 reminder because a lot of people will 67 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,560 build their system check out for a few 68 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:23,640 years come back in and it's what 69 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,440 happened so that's what this is intended 70 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:28,840 to help with is to Res situate you if 71 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 you want the individual in-depth reviews 72 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,160 for any of the components we're talking 73 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,480 about today you can find those Linked In 74 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,160 the description below or search the 75 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:39,120 channel for them uh we will be including 76 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,800 some charts to reinforce a couple of key 77 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 points that we think are important even 78 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,280 if you're maybe not as much of an 79 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Enthusiast user but if you want all of 80 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,760 the charts you can go back and check 81 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,040 through the individual reviews we'll 82 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,959 also have links to the processors on 83 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,599 Amazon or new EG and the point here is 84 00:02:52,959 --> 00:02:57,000 to give a fly over and help you come to 85 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:59,120 some conclusions quickly so let's get 86 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,319 started with our first category the 87 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,840 first award category is for the best 88 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:09,159 overall CPU of 2023 this one goes 89 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,920 handily to the AMD ryzen 7 7800x 3D CPU 90 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:11,720 which has had price reductions down to 91 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:15,040 around 92 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,120 $360 this CPU is a double winner because 93 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,400 it also takes our best gaming CPU 94 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,040 category later because of that for best 95 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,840 overall we'll focus mostly on the 96 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:26,040 non-gaming aspects of the 78 x3d the 97 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,799 7800 x3d is priced right around where 98 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:32,200 high-end gaming CPUs lawn held pricing 99 00:03:28,799 --> 00:03:34,200 in the pre I9 and R9 days and therefore 100 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,120 bringing chart leading frame rate back 101 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,959 to a more normal price point for a 102 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,400 high-end machine they're also single CCD 103 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:43,519 Solutions with only one size of core 104 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,000 kind of simplifying things this makes 105 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:47,760 scheduling easier and it does streamline 106 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,720 the setup as opposed to something like a 107 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:54,239 dual CCD 750 x3d or Intel's case a peor 108 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,879 ecore design although those have matured 109 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:59,200 over the years the 7800 x3d isn't a 110 00:03:56,879 --> 00:04:01,519 leader in production benchmarks like in 111 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,920 blender but it's more than acceptable 112 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:06,000 while still leading in gaming there's a 113 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,280 balanced category for CPUs that sit in 114 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,959 the middle a little bit better later but 115 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,560 this one still does well in some of 116 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:14,360 these categories like Photoshop for 117 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,079 example so the x3d CPUs can punch up 118 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,079 depending on the workload another 119 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:21,320 non-gaming contributing factor is the 120 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:23,800 efficiency the 7800 x2d is an extremely 121 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,759 efficient part and ranked right behind 122 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,840 the new thread rer parts that blew the 123 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:29,919 doors open in this category because of 124 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:32,400 the efficiency it's also relatively easy 125 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:35,000 to tame thermally the power consumption 126 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,160 in total is relatively low compared to 127 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,280 sort of modern high-end CPUs you don't 128 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,440 need a 360 mil CLC to cool the 7800 x2d 129 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:46,199 reducing cost barrier to entry and 130 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,199 opening up cooler options the 7800 x3d 131 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:50,160 also particularly stands out for anyone 132 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:53,360 trying to max out frame rate in gaming 133 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,039 with a 7800 XTX or an RTX 490 where you 134 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,919 really want to minimize the bottlenecks 135 00:04:55,039 --> 00:04:58,440 as much as possible we'll come back to 136 00:04:56,919 --> 00:05:00,080 that in the gaming category though the 137 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,160 next category is for the most balanced 138 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,080 CPU this one goes to the i5k skew CPUs 139 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,240 the 13600 K or 14600 k depending on 140 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,400 whichever is cheaper because they're 141 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,919 basically the same or you can buy the KF 142 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,039 to save a little more money and get rid 143 00:05:10,919 --> 00:05:15,919 of the igp the most balanced category is 144 00:05:14,039 --> 00:05:18,400 specifically awaiting of all tests we 145 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:20,400 run for GN reviews but also considering 146 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,280 the price this means we're factoring in 147 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,720 the $270 price of a 13600 K right now as 148 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:27,919 we write this as an example which also 149 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,800 makes it extremely competitive from that 150 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:32,240 price and value standpoint we're also 151 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,600 looking closely at that non-gaming 152 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,240 performance so even though the name is a 153 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,479 generation old on the 13600 K the CPU 154 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,280 isn't it's perfectly good as a new chip 155 00:05:39,479 --> 00:05:42,600 and it's balanced between price gaming 156 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,919 performance and production performance 157 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,800 as an example we found the 14600 K 158 00:05:44,919 --> 00:05:49,800 scored 747 points in our aggregate Adobe 159 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Premier benchmarks putting it ahead of 160 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,680 the 7800x 3D and about tied with the 161 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,160 7700x the CPU was likewise particularly 162 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,199 competitive in our blender rendering 163 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Benchmark where the pair completed in 164 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:05,479 less time than the 7700 X and 7800x 3D 165 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:07,240 the 137 and 147 also do well here uh but 166 00:06:05,479 --> 00:06:09,720 the pricing kind of puts them out of the 167 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,199 best balanced category also they're a 168 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,960 little more power hungry the gaming 169 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,520 performance is also strong for the price 170 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,280 with our pre patched Starfield numbers 171 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,000 which were all run with the same version 172 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:23,120 of the game we had them at 111 to 112 173 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,440 FPS for the I5 it's behind the 78 x3d 174 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,720 but with higher production workload 175 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,800 performance in many but not all cases 176 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,319 and a lower price it is balanced there 177 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,440 are other examples bers Gate 3 178 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,680 Performance is pretty good on the i5s it 179 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:38,240 puts them alongside the powerful 5800 180 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,759 x3d the 58 x3d got a different award but 181 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,720 it doesn't get our balanced one 182 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:44,319 primarily due to that weaker production 183 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,520 performance while these I5 CPUs are not 184 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:48,800 the most exciting or the best in any 185 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,680 single category they do fulfill an 186 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,720 overall well-rounded performance and 187 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,199 value profile next up is the award for 188 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:58,639 best gaming CPU this one goes to the AMD 189 00:06:55,199 --> 00:07:00,960 ryzen 7 7800 x3d the category is as 190 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:03,879 basic as it can be B it considers only 191 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,800 the absolute highest performing CPU in 192 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:08,720 games we've tested that means we're 193 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,479 looking at CPUs for FPS snobs while 194 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,280 there are other options that'll get you 195 00:07:10,479 --> 00:07:13,879 80% of the performance those aren't 196 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,919 considered here that makes this one 197 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:17,160 heavily numbers based first some basics 198 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:20,120 for anyone who's been out of the market 199 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,960 for a little while the R7 7800 x3d is a 200 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:26,120 socket am5 CPU that uses AMD stackable 201 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,160 cash or vcash which we've found to have 202 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,039 a large impact on gaming performance 203 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,080 it's an 8 core 16 thread part with 96 204 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:35,840 megab of L3 cach and it's currently 205 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,759 around $360 at the time of filming with 206 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,479 occasional small discounts on new EG and 207 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:42,960 Amazon it's down from $450 for its 208 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:44,919 launch MSRP because this is a purely 209 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,680 numbers-based category let's look at 210 00:07:44,919 --> 00:07:48,159 some recent gaming Benchmark charts in 211 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,560 the new cyberpunk Phantom Liberty 212 00:07:48,159 --> 00:07:51,159 expansion that probably a lot of you 213 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,080 will be playing during the holidays the 214 00:07:51,159 --> 00:07:56,280 7800 XD led the chart it was about tied 215 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,639 with the 7950 xrd although it carried 216 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,080 better. 1% lows we've run the 7950 XD 217 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,560 through this game several times now and 218 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,360 we found that it always encounters at 219 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,599 least a couple sluggish frame times run 220 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,199 to run despite an overall good average 221 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:09,360 which is what contributes to that we 222 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:11,280 think this mostly has to do with 223 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,080 scheduling either way though the 7800 224 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,560 x2d is meaningfully ahead of everything 225 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,840 here and it's not even the most 226 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,639 expensive sort gaming Focus CPU on the 227 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,159 chart the 5800 x3d would get you most of 228 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:24,520 the way there as an upgrade especially 229 00:08:21,159 --> 00:08:27,120 if you have am4 but Intel's 14900 K and 230 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,319 this one leaves a relatively large gap 231 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,240 to the 7800 x3d especially when you do 232 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:33,719 consider the price in Stellaris turntime 233 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,200 simulation the 7800 x3d was roughly tied 234 00:08:33,719 --> 00:08:36,919 with the rest of the chart leaders this 235 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,839 one's measured in the time to complete 236 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:43,240 the test it's up there with the 14700 K 237 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:44,640 14900 K and 7950 x3d all of which are 238 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,000 roughly within error of each other 239 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,839 balers Gate 3 had the 7950 xpd ahead on 240 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,000 a technicality at 1080p but it was 241 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:53,360 ultimately within margin of error you'll 242 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,160 actually see in the next chart how close 243 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,200 they are the 7800 x2d and 7950 x2d both 244 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,959 establish a relatively wide gap between 245 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,640 themselves and the next CPU which is the 246 00:08:59,959 --> 00:09:04,959 4900 K now relatively here is the 247 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,720 important word it's not meaningful you 248 00:09:04,959 --> 00:09:08,360 won't notice this Gap especially or 249 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,600 particularly in this game but if you 250 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,880 glance at the rest of the chart you'll 251 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,120 notice a much more gradual sort of fall 252 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,519 off of the blue bar down the chart if 253 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,000 you look at 144p you'll see that the 78 254 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:20,720 x3d is still at the top it retains all 255 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,360 of its performance it's the same as the 256 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,399 7950 x3d and that's in spite of an 257 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,600 increase in GPU load finally we'll show 258 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:29,519 Starfield as a counter example this was 259 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,880 before the most recent patches so new 260 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:33,640 numbers will be a little higher but all 261 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,920 of these were run on the same game 262 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,880 version so our tests here are directly 263 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,920 comparable to each other though a game 264 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,600 update will maybe boost the Baseline 265 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Intel kept a lead here the 14900 K was 266 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:48,680 ahead of the 7800 X 3D by 15% it's not 267 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,839 always the best but the 78 x3d is the 268 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:52,880 best often enough that it's our go-to 269 00:09:50,839 --> 00:09:54,760 for a high-end gaming machine so uh 270 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,839 overall this one gets our best gaming 271 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,760 CPU award although the extra cash 272 00:09:56,839 --> 00:10:00,600 doesn't benefit this CPU and most of our 273 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,720 production uction workloads the core 274 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,800 count allows it to remain a good overall 275 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,279 option if you're editing videos or 276 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,079 running a lot of file compression and 277 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:10,240 decompression workloads the CPU does 278 00:10:08,079 --> 00:10:12,040 fine especially if you're mostly gaming 279 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,120 this will most likely bottleneck you on 280 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,440 a GPU if you don't go highend enough so 281 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,519 to fully leverage the CPU consider a 282 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,120 higher-end GPU we'd be looking in the 283 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:24,440 RTX 470 TI or RX 7900 XT and up 284 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,160 categories especially although you could 285 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,560 obviously pair it with anything we 286 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,160 recently Revisited the rx700 XT on the 287 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:32,200 channel and the website as well has an 288 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,839 article on G x.net if you want to see 289 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,279 how that GPU does today versus some 290 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:37,079 Alternatives and you can learn more 291 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:38,839 about the 78 x3d in our Standalone 292 00:10:37,079 --> 00:10:41,000 review at the link below next up is for 293 00:10:38,839 --> 00:10:43,000 the best upgrade we added this category 294 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,639 last year we're defining this as the 295 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,680 best CPU that can drop into a board of a 296 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:50,000 past generation either Intel or AMD but 297 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:53,560 it's probably no surprise that the 298 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,880 winner is the R7 5800 X 3D and we hope 299 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:57,360 that this encourages both AMD and Intel 300 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,920 to continue offering good upgrade 301 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,399 options in the future it's falling out 302 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,519 of of practice in the last decade or so 303 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,360 but it's great for consumers and often 304 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,560 highly cost effective for a stricter 305 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,399 budget our recent rise in 200000 R visit 306 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:11,440 showed just how much room there still is 307 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:13,440 to bring am4 forward especially in 308 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,800 gaming the best part is that a lot of 309 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,040 the boards from the prior rizing 310 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Generations can support the xvd CPU 311 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,880 already although you should check the 312 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,399 CPU support list for your board and 313 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,399 update BIOS before pulling your old CPU 314 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:28,680 many of the boards that support the R7 315 00:11:25,399 --> 00:11:31,480 2700 the R5 3600 obviously the 5000 316 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:33,760 series CPUs will run the 5800 XP without 317 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,680 issues and the fact that it's relatively 318 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,880 low power for the performance means that 319 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:40,560 even things like uh a moderate vrm will 320 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,920 be able to keep up as long as it's not 321 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:46,720 too bad even some of the older r7700 era 322 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,279 boards on x370 era chipsets can work 323 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,160 although it's a little more spotty for 324 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,600 the bio support if we look at a couple 325 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,519 gaming charts from our 2700x revisit you 326 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,200 can see how you'll get a performance 327 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:59,480 bump from those older CPUs that feels 328 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,639 like a totally new PC build especially 329 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,680 if you're coupling it with a drop in GPU 330 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:06,360 upgrade so you can save on the ram the 331 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,839 motherboard the case maybe you can keep 332 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,760 the power supply depends on how big you 333 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:12,720 go on the GPU but there's a lot of 334 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,480 cost-saving options here the 5800 x2d is 335 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,399 also relatively low power consumption 336 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,760 for its performance in an allcore 337 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:20,959 workload which is heavier than gaming we 338 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,639 had it at around 108 Watts that makes it 339 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:25,079 easy to cool for a good $3 to $50 dual 340 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:27,040 Tower air cooler something like the 341 00:12:25,079 --> 00:12:29,199 Peerless assassin you can check our CB 342 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,720 cooler reviews for all that it's almost 343 00:12:29,199 --> 00:12:33,600 good enough for a modern build to but 344 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,639 the board cost starts affecting value 345 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,240 for a new system and buying into ddr4 at 346 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:40,279 this point just feels kind of bad 347 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,639 because you are dead ending yourself if 348 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:44,320 you go that route but options on eBay 349 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:47,480 may open things up and if you already 350 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,079 have a bunch of ddr4 you go grab a $90 351 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,480 used board or something we wouldn't 352 00:12:49,079 --> 00:12:51,880 necessarily recommend that route because 353 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,760 this really makes the most sense as a 354 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,959 drop in upgrade for an existing build it 355 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,880 has a ton of cost savings high 356 00:12:55,959 --> 00:12:59,279 performance upgrade and if you can 357 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,920 allocate some of that money money that 358 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:03,720 would have been spent on all new 359 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,760 components towards a better CPU and GPU 360 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,120 alone then that might be the better 361 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,120 option for you depends on how strict 362 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,199 your budget is the fact that AMD has 363 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,040 kept the platform alive this long is 364 00:13:11,199 --> 00:13:15,160 commendable and we hope to see this more 365 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,160 going forward the environmental impact 366 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,600 and the e-w impact is far lower and the 367 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,639 value for existing owners of the 368 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,440 platform is strong so the 5800 x2d gets 369 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:27,360 our award for the best upgrade CPU this 370 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,160 year the next award is for the most 371 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,199 efficient CPU on the technicality of 372 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,440 actually being the most efficient on the 373 00:13:32,199 --> 00:13:38,320 chart based on our testing that goes to 374 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:40,199 the thread Ripper 7980x 64 core CPU when 375 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,360 it's under an all core workload at 376 00:13:40,199 --> 00:13:44,000 $5,000 though this CPU costs more than a 377 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,000 full gaming PC and they're totally 378 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,440 different markets so we'll name the 379 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,519 runner up as well that would be the r 380 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,759 77800 x3d coming up again with an 381 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:57,079 honorable mention going to the R9 7950 X 382 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:58,839 in eco mode we have some previous tests 383 00:13:57,079 --> 00:14:00,519 for that they're not comparable to our 384 00:13:58,839 --> 00:14:02,040 newest Power efficiency test because 385 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:04,839 we've updated all the software since 386 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,880 then but it did post impressive results 387 00:14:04,839 --> 00:14:09,759 back when we tested Ecco mode the semi 388 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,519 8X though that leads by a lot in 389 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:14,160 workstation applications that fully 390 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,800 scale on 64 cores the amount of time 391 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,720 required to complete a given unit of 392 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,600 work by the 7980x is impressive in our 393 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,360 efficiency chart the 7980x posted a 12.9 394 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,160 WTH hour result with the 7800 x2d 395 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,720 previously being the most impressive 396 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,160 modern CPU but for gaming that is out 397 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,199 outside of utilizing eco mode or being 398 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,600 this HDT part although the 5950 X 399 00:14:34,199 --> 00:14:39,160 remains a leader for its era but that's 400 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,720 what earns the 7800 xvd the runner up 401 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,560 status the 402 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,120 7980x goes a bit deeper though we talked 403 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,680 about this in our review so to keep it 404 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,199 short the power utilization per core is 405 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:54,560 exceptionally low due to the 0.84 to 406 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:56,839 0.85 volts VC core during an all core 407 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,279 operation when capped with a 350 watt 408 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:01,480 default pvt these result results plus 409 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:03,880 the multi-threaded efficacy in all core 410 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,440 applications earn it the most efficient 411 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,920 Award with the 7800 X getting a sort of 412 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Cav out a note here that it would be 413 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,600 among the most efficient or often the 414 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,120 most efficient in frame rate per watt 415 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,120 efficiency if you wanted to look at it 416 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,560 that way just because it runs a lot 417 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:23,040 faster in games for frame rate than a 418 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,120 7980x does Intel currently is way behind 419 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,000 in all core efficiency for desktop class 420 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Parts the 300 wat flagships are propping 421 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,839 up the highend CPU Cooler Market pretty 422 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,000 well here the next acknowledgement goes 423 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:37,199 to best budget CPU which is a really 424 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,399 weird category this year we normally 425 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:43,440 Target around the $ 150 to $200 price 426 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:45,800 range in the past things like the 2600 427 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,560 have made sense here or the 3600 this 428 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,319 one was hard there aren't many current 429 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:54,199 generation Options under $200 there's 430 00:15:50,319 --> 00:15:58,240 the R5 7600 non-x right around 200 bucks 431 00:15:54,199 --> 00:16:02,240 then the last gen r750 700x Intel has 432 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:05,040 its I5 12600 K around $140 and there's 433 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:08,680 also an R5 7500f that isn't officially 434 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,040 out in the west the R5 5600 also was in 435 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,279 our consideration here for its $130 to 436 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,880 $140 pricing today and all of this makes 437 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:19,079 choosing difficult because it's not as 438 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,959 clear anymore as just you're buying the 439 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:25,279 newest thing no matter what now in both 440 00:16:21,959 --> 00:16:27,319 CPU and GPU there are current and prior 441 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:29,240 generation options that make sense in 442 00:16:27,319 --> 00:16:31,120 different situations well do this two 443 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,399 ways if you're one of the many people on 444 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,120 am4 but you can't afford a 5800 X 3D 445 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:39,000 upgrade then the 5700x might be one of 446 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,959 your best budget friendly options to get 447 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,199 one final upgrade it has nearly 448 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:45,560 identical performance to the 5800 X 449 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:48,000 non-3d that is in gaming from the test 450 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,079 we ran in our original 5700x review but 451 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,519 it tends to be cheaper where price is a 452 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:54,800 hard limiter it could be a worthwhile 453 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:57,560 midst step if you have to stop short of 454 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,240 the 5800 X 3DD and most people don't 455 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,399 live near a micros Center to benefit 456 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,240 from a 5600 x3d the 5600 makes less 457 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:06,199 sense as an upgrade just because you'd 458 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,039 have to be upgrading from pretty low on 459 00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:10,760 the stack and probably pretty far back 460 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:13,000 and Rising while also being budget 461 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,319 constraint so we'll give the best budget 462 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,000 CPU for an upgrade option at least the 463 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:20,079 5700x if you're keeping an old platform 464 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,760 and you have to be cost constrained as 465 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:25,480 for something new the r 57600 really is 466 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,400 worth considering the ryzen 7000 series 467 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,480 launched with high pricing that reduced 468 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,919 a lot of the initial heal against prior 469 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,400 Generations the 7600 is now at around 470 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:36,120 $200 it's dropped about 30 bucks from 471 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,080 when it launched and it's often within 472 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:41,200 Striking Distance of the 7600 X if 473 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,760 you're able to find a 7600 X at the same 474 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,240 price you'll get a little bit more 475 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,640 performance out of it because it is a 476 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,600 little faster but the TDP is lower on 477 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,400 the 7600 so there's maybe some benefit 478 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,919 there too the next category is for the 479 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,120 best high-end desktop CPU for this we 480 00:17:52,919 --> 00:17:57,360 don't mean the literal best as in the 481 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:59,080 biggest number but instead what we think 482 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:01,039 would provide a strong foundation for 483 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,240 something like a video editing machine a 484 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:05,159 CPU based rendering machine or something 485 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,720 dealing with chromium like compiles 486 00:18:05,159 --> 00:18:09,600 we're naming the thread Ripper 7970 X 487 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,720 here and the only reason we added this 488 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,480 CPU to this listing is because we're 489 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,799 probably going to switch to it for some 490 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,400 of our editing stations it also did 491 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:19,120 really well in Spec workstation 492 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,679 performance for its Financial Services 493 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:22,960 Benchmark but that's not an area we're 494 00:18:20,679 --> 00:18:25,480 familiar with in a professional sense we 495 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,799 are very familiar with video though for 496 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,240 our purposes the 7980x isn't really 497 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:31,799 viable for video editing well Premiere 498 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,400 has some known issues although those 499 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,600 sound like they're getting fixed at the 500 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,080 moment and additionally it's just really 501 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,799 expensive but the 7 970x posted 502 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,960 excellent Adobe Premiere results in the 503 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:44,559 Puget bench while also posting 504 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,679 particularly strong raw video Benchmark 505 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:49,840 results and intraframe Benchmark results 506 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:52,520 in that sense this is kind of a selfish 507 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,240 pick we're planning to build the 797 X 508 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,039 machine for the office because based on 509 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,559 our hands-on experience with it we think 510 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:59,960 it'd really help accelerate some of our 511 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,080 video editing and rendering experiences 512 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:04,280 this next award isn't just for a budget 513 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,080 CPU but for the cheapest CPU that can 514 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,200 still manage to play at least some games 515 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,960 and is new we're back with an award 516 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,640 that's getting increasingly difficult to 517 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,480 assign each year as for best CPUs under 518 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,120 a 100 bucks which goes to the Intel I3 519 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,000 1200f right now we checked and at the 520 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:22,640 moment the brand new CPU Options under 521 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,440 $100 and again new are pretty slim 522 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,840 there's the I3 1300f which is uh first 523 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,200 of all not under $100 in the places 524 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,919 we've checked it's like 110 to 120 but 525 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,120 that one's problematic not just because 526 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:35,799 it's over 100 bucks but also because 527 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,760 it's not that distant from the 12100 F 528 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:39,799 in performance and they better options 529 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,440 that are not much more expensive than it 530 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:43,960 the R5 4600g is also around but not 531 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,760 competitive with the 1200f and it's 532 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,640 intended use case with a discret GPU 533 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,840 there's also the r 55500 but last time 534 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,480 we reran that through the suite we found 535 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,960 its value was worse than the 12100 F the 536 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,760 12100 F was also just a better performer 537 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:03,840 with boosts anywhere from 5% average fps 538 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,520 to 31% in games or 2% to 35% 1% lows we 539 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,440 had a lot of reservations about this 540 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,480 type of FPS per dollar chart back when 541 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,400 we showed it in the 13100 review and we 542 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,280 explained it there if you're curious why 543 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,960 these charts uh are kind of difficult to 544 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,159 perfectly use but it does help 545 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,840 illustrate a point using the pricing of 546 00:20:18,159 --> 00:20:22,799 the time that had the 1200f as one of 547 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,919 the best value CPS available higher was 548 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:28,280 better here in an absolute sense the I3 549 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:30,919 1200f is more than capable of playing a 550 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,880 lot of games it's not flashy it's not 551 00:20:30,919 --> 00:20:34,760 going to work great with every game 552 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,880 that's the challenge with a cheap CPU 553 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:40,000 but in a lot of them it's fine F1 2022 554 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,679 for example foresting at the time had it 555 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,880 at 270 FPS average it'll struggle in 556 00:20:42,679 --> 00:20:46,480 games probably like City skylines 2 557 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,320 assuming you're not just completely 558 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,559 bound up on the GPU as we showed in our 559 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,720 testing or maybe Starfield with a 560 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:54,320 similar caveat but overall for builds 561 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000 where you can't spend more money and 562 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,559 especially where you're playing what 563 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,840 typically would be classified as quote 564 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:02,120 unquote ESP sports games this is a good 565 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,280 starter option when financials are the 566 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:06,400 bottleneck it really helps to give some 567 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,400 perspective on how good a cheap CPU can 568 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,039 be for just the basics and this really 569 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,240 is an important category for PC parts 570 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:16,240 every year we have people comment about 571 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:19,880 well if you just spend another $40 but 572 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:22,799 for a lot of people going from1 to $140 573 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,640 is not a matter of just it's a make or 574 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:26,360 break for the build everyone has a price 575 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,880 limit on their hobbies and keeping the 576 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:30,919 range as tunable as possible is good but 577 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,200 have no Illusions about it the 12100 F 578 00:21:30,919 --> 00:21:35,440 will struggle in some games and it won't 579 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,799 age as well that's the nature of 580 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,760 spending as little as possible but it 581 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:42,080 does fall into the good enough category 582 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,840 for a lot of games right now and it does 583 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,200 come in technically under $100 that also 584 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,720 helps keep the board cost down the last 585 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,799 category is a classic of ours it's for 586 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,960 the biggest disappointment and 587 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:57,480 congratulations to Intel they've won it 588 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,760 this year the award goes to the entire 589 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,880 14 590 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,799 generation and that's sort of the first 591 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:07,120 clue it's not a generational iteration 592 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:09,559 it is however a numerical one which is 593 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:12,000 fine except there wasn't any meaningful 594 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:14,159 uplift the 14th series didn't do 595 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,559 anything to advance performance in a way 596 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:19,799 that mattered but it at least briefly 597 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:21,240 reset the prices now the 13 and 14 CPUs 598 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,960 have continued to shuffle around in 599 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,760 price we're completely okay with product 600 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,400 refreshes they should offer at least 601 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,400 something they don't have to go as far 602 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,760 as the steam OLED did where it's 603 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,960 basically a new device but a little bit 604 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,919 more than change the number would be 605 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:39,720 good the 14700 K added some cores but 606 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:42,919 even that didn't really help in a way 607 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,840 that mattered the 14th series just isn't 608 00:22:42,919 --> 00:22:46,760 interesting and the temporarily High 609 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,960 pricing was likewise unfortunate it 610 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,320 actually made Intel look worse than if 611 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,840 people just paid more attention to the 612 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,760 13 series for example by attacking a 613 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,440 number 50 to the end of it or something 614 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,200 that's why the 14 series gets the 615 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,320 biggest disappointment award this year 616 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,919 so that's it for this one now the 617 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,159 pricing is just before Black Friday is 618 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:05,400 actually happening depending on how much 619 00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:08,440 that affects pricing you're going to see 620 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,080 some numbers move around and if it if 621 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,960 things drop in price which is what we're 622 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,200 talking about then that may affect how 623 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,159 much we value a processor versus 624 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,400 something else of course so you'll keep 625 00:23:16,159 --> 00:23:20,480 an eye out on prices certainly as you're 626 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,240 shopping but based on the numbers we've 627 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,640 given you uh from our data we have and 628 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,200 the prices we have today the decisions 629 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 for the most part are pretty clear 630 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,000 couple categories where it's less clear 631 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,600 so best budget it's really not as 632 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,640 straightforward as it used to be for us 633 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,000 it used to be as simple as like R5 2600 634 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,480 20000 bucks yep that's definitely the 635 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,880 winner no questions about it assuming it 636 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,240 didn't win best overall or something uh 637 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,919 for that year but now there's just it's 638 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,559 difficult because some of the best CPUs 639 00:23:48,919 --> 00:23:53,360 are a prior generation which feels a 640 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:55,000 little weird to recommend now since 641 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:57,279 they're EOL platforms there's a lot of 642 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,600 value in buying into a new one if the 643 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:02,520 companies well andd specifically let's 644 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,559 let's be honest here uh do anything like 645 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,200 Andy did with am4 that's the one 646 00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:09,559 category where it was kind of difficult 647 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,080 to nail down a single CPU so we gave you 648 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,960 the two options but uh that covers it 649 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,360 for the best CPS again you can find the 650 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,679 full reviews in the description below 651 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,679 and those will get you the complete 652 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:21,320 depth uh this one hopefully got you up 653 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,559 to speed quickly so you can use it as a 654 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,559 launching point to go do your next bit 655 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:27,520 of research on the CPUs we've hopefully 656 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:29,240 pointed you in the direction of and we 657 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,919 have other roundups coming up so 658 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,679 subscribe and check back regularly for 659 00:24:30,919 --> 00:24:34,960 all that of course you can also go to 660 00:24:32,679 --> 00:24:37,000 store. gam access.net to support us and 661 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,919 our efforts with these pieces directly 662 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,480 just a quick note too these are really 663 00:24:38,919 --> 00:24:45,200 fun to work on because I mean it's we 664 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600 lose sight of just how much how many 665 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,120 products ship in the computer hardware 666 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Market over the course of a year and 667 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,640 there's a lot that aren't that 668 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,320 interesting but compiling the most 669 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,600 interesting ones plus one in this case 670 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,279 group of disappointing ones into a 671 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,120 single video it's a lot of fun and it 672 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,080 gets us back up to speed because there's 673 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,880 so much going on it's hard to stay on 674 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,640 top of it all the time so hopefully that 675 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,640 helped you as well and we're enjoying it 676 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,039 we'll do a couple more of these and uh 677 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,440 we'll see you in the next one thanks for 678 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:13,919 watching subscribe for more see you all 679 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,919 next time 52386

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