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2,000 feet high
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but this is showing it
only at about
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150 feet or something.
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So, I've taken
the Lunasonde data
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that we got last year,
and there's the rocket launches.
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-BRYANT: They do line up.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
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Look at that scapula.
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That is a tooth that bit
all the way through.
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It would have to be
larger than a wolf.
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That is a dire wolf,
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which is an extinct species.
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THOMAS:
Look at this tree right here.
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It looks charred.
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TRAVIS:
We got a dead animal right here!
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-THOMAS: Oh, What is that?
-BRYANT: What is that?
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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KANDUS: Thanks for
meeting with us today.
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BEN: Absolutely.
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We'd love to hear
what you found out about
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those samples of
the dead things we found
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in the river.
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BEN: Okay, all of it
was very interesting
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and kind of
some unexpected things.
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TRAVIS: Last week,
we made a bunch of
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strange discoveries
in Dry Gulch Creek,
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which borders the south field
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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These included a scorched tree
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where nothing else
around it was burned,
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and the decayed carcass
of some kind of animal
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with huge fangs,
so we couldn't wait
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to hear the scientific report
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on the samples that we sent
to biologist Ben Woodruff
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at the Hutchings Museum
Institute in Lehi, Utah.
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So, I want to show
you some pictures
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from the olive wood tree
that was burned,
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and the burn
looked a little strange.
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I can't 100% confirm this,
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but the way the burn happened
looked like pyrolysis,
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which is where a burn happens
without combustion,
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and without
burning through any oxygen.
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So, if you were to witness it,
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it would just be turning black
in front of your eyes
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without a flame.
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Then the question is,
what is making heat hot enough
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to create a non-combustion fire
and have no oxygen?
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Well, you'd have
to have an extreme
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-heat source.
-Yes.
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I'm thinking about
that post we found.
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I was just exactly
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-thinking about that post.
-Yeah.
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Which is right where
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we saw that silver orb
coming toward
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our game camera.
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-It is, isn't it?
-BRYANT: It is.
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THOMAS: Huh, look at this.
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We got a burn mark.
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TRAVIS:
In 2022,
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Kaleb Bench and Thomas Winterton
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noticed a fence post
in the south field
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with a half-circle-shaped
hole through it
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and burns that were
just like the olive tree
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that we found
nearby in the creek.
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And then, after
setting up game cameras
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to keep a better watch
over that area,
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we captured an image of
a silver orb
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in the middle of the field.
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But was it connected
to the scorched fence post
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or even the olive tree?
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Man, I find
that really interesting.
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BEN:
Let me show you next,
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the jaw sample,
the canine that you found.
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ERIK:
I want to see this.
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TRAVIS:
About six months ago,
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a dead cow was discovered
near the south field
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that had
massive teeth marks in it.
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BEN: The size fits into
that hole perfectly.
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TRAVIS:
And last week,
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Ben suggested that one animal
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with teeth large enough
to make those sized wounds
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could have been a dire wolf,
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which went extinct
about 10,000 years ago.
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What's even crazier than that
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is a story told by
the Sherman family,
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who lived here in the 1990s,
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that they actually saw
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a dire wolf attack their cattle.
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So, we were all on
the edge of our seats to hear
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what Ben had to say
about the dead animal
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we just discovered in the creek
bordering the south field.
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BEN:
I want to give you
a couple of examples here,
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some comparative anatomy.
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So, this is the side view
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of a typical coyote skull.
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And I want you
to focus down here.
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At the bottom,
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you can see this bulge
is not very big.
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This is the part of the jaw
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that undergoes the most stress
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when these teeth here
are crunching down.
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So, keep that in mind.
Keep the shape in mind.
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This is a regular,
modern-day gray wolf.
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And they're
tackling larger prey,
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up to the size of moose
or even a buffalo.
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And you can see
how much larger that is.
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And this is a dire wolf.
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You can see down below here
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how much larger that bulge is.
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-TRAVIS: That's huge.
-THOMAS: Yeah.
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BEN:
Here is the dentition
on your jaw.
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That has the much thicker,
larger bulge
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like a dire wolf.
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TRAVIS: Look at that.
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What?
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Are you kidding me?
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KAELEB:
No way.
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BEN:
I don't want
to put out a hypothesis,
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but if you handed me this
and said, "Hey, what is this?"
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Everything I'm measuring,
everything I'm looking at says
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it looks like
it has dire wolf in it
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or is a young dire wolf.
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But I'm hoping
we can do a DNA test.
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THOMAS:
If we can prove
this is a legit dire wolf,
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that would be
the first physical evidence
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that we've been given
from anybody
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that suggests that
the Shermans actually saw
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a dire wolf trying to pull
their cows through the fence.
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We love everything
about your approach, Ben,
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and I-I am... I am so grateful
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for everything
you've shared with us.
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KANDUS:
Yeah. Thanks so much
for coming on
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and sharing
your results with us.
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We'll collect more samples
and hopefully
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-talk to you soon.
-BEN: Great.
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Thank you. I look forward
to coming out again.
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-BRYANT: Thanks, man.
-THOMAS: Thank you, Ben.
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-See you later.
-Talk to you soon.
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-BRYANT: Wow.
-TRAVIS: A dire wolf.
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KAELEB: Well, we've got
Jan back out, guys.
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-ERIK: Hey, Jan.
-Hey. Hey, guys.
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-Welcome back.
-JAN: Thanks for having me back.
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TRAVIS:
After our meeting
with Ben Woodruff,
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we welcomed ground-penetrating
radar expert Jan Francke
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back to help us with another one
of our current investigations,
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between the area known as
the triangle and the mesa,
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where we've detected a possible
underground structure.
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We had a team come out
and do a balloon-based
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deep penetrating radar survey.
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-Okay.
-We also have some
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-magnetometer data
from a few years ago...
-JAN: Yep.
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...that shows
magnetic anomalies.
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-Okay.
-Which suggests
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that we're looking
at something metallic,
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possibly even
a tunnel of some kind.
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Okay.
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TRAVIS: Over
the past three years,
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we've conducted
a magnetometry scan
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as well as an aerial
radar scan in this area,
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and both of them identified
a possible metal tunnel
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running underground between
the triangle and the mesa.
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So today, Jan is going to use
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a special
ground-penetrating radar device
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to get us more data
and help us figure out
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if that could really be true.
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Our ambition is to
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do a survey in this area
under the triangle.
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Absolutely, we can do that. Yes.
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Well, guys, so,
this time I brought
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a much deeper
penetrating system--
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I've improved it over
the last year--
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that will give us
a much higher resolution.
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Perfect.
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TRAVIS:
Jan is going to scan
back and forth
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across the area in what's called
a push broom pattern.
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As he does this,
the GPR will send
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radio signals into the ground
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that bounce off of
objects or structures.
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If any are detected,
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the device will
produce an image on
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what is known as a radargram.
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Now, while Jan's GPR
is mainly designed to
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send radio signals
into the ground,
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some of them will
actually go up,
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meaning that he could also
detect things above him.
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That would be a good thing
for us because we've documented
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a lot of anomalies
above the triangle.
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So, if anything passes over him,
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we might able
to image that, as well.
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We got another experiment
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on the other side of the ranch,
so we're going to
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leave you and Kaleb here
at it for a little bit,
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and we're gonna
head over there.
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Sounds good.
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TRAVIS:
Well, good luck, guys.
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-Okay.
-JAN: Got it?
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All right,
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let's start assembling it.
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TRAVIS:
While Jan and Kaleb were
running the GPR scan
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-at the triangle...
-And off we go.
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...Me, Thomas and Dragon
went about a half mile over to
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the east field to conduct
a different experiment
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to follow up
on something strange
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that happened two weeks ago.
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Let's put the launch pad
right here.
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We were conducting a
drone-based infrared lidar scan
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when Jim Royston suddenly
began losing GPS data
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at very specific spots
above the east field.
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-ERIK: Uh-oh.
-What happened, Erik?
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TRAVIS:
Something that
we couldn't explain
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was blocking the GPS signal.
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-Let's go launch this thing.
-Okay.
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TRAVIS:
So, we've decided to launch
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rockets equipped with
GPS devices
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up into those same dead spots
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to see if we could get
repeated data,
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or even stimulate
some kind of phenomenon,
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that might help us figure out
what's going on in that area.
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(beeps)
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THOMAS:
Erik, the rocket's armed
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and we're ready to launch.
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Copy you.
Standing by for launch.
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BRYANT:
While we're out in the field,
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Erik's going to be
in the command center,
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watching all of his
instrumentation and cameras,
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to keep an eye on both parties
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while we're out
doing this experiment.
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We might be able to get
to the next spot.
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-Okay, whereabouts is it?
-It's up over in...
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-In that thicket there?
-It's up over in here.
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JAN:
All right.
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TRAVIS: In five, four,
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three, two,
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one.
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-KALEB: Yeah.
-JAN: Something's going on
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with the signal there,
very interesting.
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We've got this weird bump
above the ground.
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-I can't explain that.
-KALEB: Uh, yeah.
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What the hell?
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ERIK (over radio):
Hey, Thomas, you copy?
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Yeah, Erik. Go ahead.
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ERIK:
I don't even know
how to say this.
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I saw the rocket launch
straight up in the camera.
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But the GPS data went
deep into the mesa.
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-(Travis laughing)
-BRYANT: That's amazing.
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straight up in the camera.
theh
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But the GPS data went northwest.
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And raced off
into the interior of the mesa.
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It never went up
from the launch pad.
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-Wow.
-It turned and went
that direction.
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TRAVIS:
Our latest experiment showed
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really weird results
from the get-go.
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We all saw
our first rocket launch
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straight up over 1,000 feet
in the air.
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But according
to Erik's GPS receiver
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tracking the rocket's path,
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it supposedly flew
straight into the mesa.
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Hey, Erik and Travis,
if you guys can hear me.
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As Jan and I were dragging
his GPR through the triangle,
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Jan said about five
to ten seconds
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after that rocket launch,
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that he was getting something
interesting above us.
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TRAVIS:
Did you hear what he said?
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That radar picked up something
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in the air
when we launched the rocket.
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At the triangle.
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KALEB:
I am wondering if we did
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have some kind of...
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interaction or we did get
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some kind of reading
of something moving above us.
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So that's,
that's really interesting.
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I can't wait to see that data.
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We couldn't believe it
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when Jan detected something
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in the air with his GPR device
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above the triangle
after our first rocket launch.
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He was trying to find
an underground tunnel, but,
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clearly,
some of the radio signals
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bounced off something
over his head.
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We are ready to launch
the next rocket
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with the GPS tracker on it.
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Are you ready?
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ERIK:
Standing by for launch.
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TRAVIS: We had no idea
what it could have been.
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So we wanted
to launch another rocket
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as fast as we could
to see if it would happen again.
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Hey, Kaleb, be advised
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that we are gonna launch
the rocket
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in less than 30 seconds.
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Be prepared.
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JAN: If we're gonna launch
another rocket,
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we should stand still
and we watch for it,
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-and see if we see
anything about us.
-Okay.
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Okay, battery is gonna
go hot right now.
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(beeping)
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Preparing to launch in five,
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four, three,
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two, one.
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What in the hell is going on?
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This makes no sense at all!
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That is not
what that rocket did.
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I want an explanation for this.
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During the rocket launch,
the rocket didn't go
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straight into the mesa,
but what it appeared to do
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was to corkscrew on its way up.
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Um, the altitude that it is
reported to have reached
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is nowhere near
where the rocket actually went.
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How is that even possible?
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Kaleb, you copy?
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KALEB:
Yeah. Go ahead, Erik.
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Are you still seeing
any of that artifact
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at 30 to 40 feet?
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JAN:
Uh, roger that, I am.
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Yes, it is definitely there.
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And it occurred
maybe four or five seconds
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-after the launch.
-ERIK: Wow.
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JAN:
We saw the exact same effect.
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Five or six seconds
after that rocket launched,
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we see movement
at a range of about 40 feet.
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I can't explain that at all.
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I need to process that data,
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but that's something
of real interest.
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Well, it's been an eventful day.
333
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Heck yeah, it has.
334
00:14:51,008 --> 00:14:52,633
Sounds like Erik got
some interesting data.
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I'll be interested to see
what the camera looks like.
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00:14:55,217 --> 00:14:57,383
I-I'd say this is
a very successful day.
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Yeah, I wo-- I would,
I would think so.
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I can't wait to see
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what Jan got
down at the triangle.
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00:15:02,842 --> 00:15:04,508
I say we pack up,
we get back
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-to see what he's got.
-I agree.
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BRYANT:
Good job, everybody.
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-TRAVIS: Hey, guys.
-JAN: Come on in.
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ERIK:
Before we jump into Jan's data
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I want to look
at some rocket launch data
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with you guys.
I want to show you
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the GPS data
for that first flight.
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I'm excited to see what you got.
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TRAVIS: The next morning,
we couldn't wait to see
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if Jan was able to find evidence
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of a tunnel underground
in the triangle area.
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But first,
we really wanted to review
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the GPS data from
our east field rocket launch
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when Jan's GPR device
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simultaneously
detected something
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above ground at the triangle.
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00:15:49,425 --> 00:15:52,383
Okay, so, you tell me...
358
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...what's wrong
with this picture?
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(laughs) The rocket went
straight up to 2,000 feet.
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00:16:02,258 --> 00:16:03,508
Mm-hmm.
361
00:16:03,675 --> 00:16:06,258
And you see
these points over here?
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They're inside the mesa.
363
00:16:08,342 --> 00:16:09,758
-Now.
-TRAVIS: There they are,
look at that.
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ERIK: Look exactly
where they went in.
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TRAVIS:
Wow.
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THOMAS: That's right
where we saw the UAP
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last year go into the mesa.
368
00:16:18,175 --> 00:16:21,342
That's a good point.
The entry point right there.
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Crazy, man.
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The GPS data shows
this rocket flew straight
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at the mesa
and directly into a spot
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that we call the "in point."
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Now that's where we've seen
a UAP enter
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the east field mesa
and then exit it
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a half a mile away
before disappearing
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into thin air near the triangle.
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00:16:41,008 --> 00:16:43,592
We don't know
what's causing the GPS errors,
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00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,675
but it is obvious
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that something has
prevented us from getting
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accurate data
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:53,592
KALEB: And at the exact
same time, Jan was picking up
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those radar anomalies.
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00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:57,967
TRAVIS: That's right,
Jan had the GPR set up
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when we did this launch,
and he picked up
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uh, something in the sky
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00:17:03,425 --> 00:17:05,508
that seemed to be 40 feet
above him over the triangle.
387
00:17:05,675 --> 00:17:09,175
Yes, exactly, we can actually
see that on this data set.
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00:17:09,342 --> 00:17:11,175
-Yeah, let's take a look.
-JAN: Okay.
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00:17:12,425 --> 00:17:14,133
So, the radar's continuously
390
00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,633
running, it's taking readings
ten times a second.
391
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,633
Now what is the radar
really detecting?
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It's detecting changes.
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00:17:20,175 --> 00:17:21,675
And we're in an open field
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and there's no cows
or anything else moving.
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00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:27,842
So if we just stand still
and nobody moves,
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then there shouldn't
be any changes at all.
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00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,008
So, what I want you to do is
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take a look at the bottom
of the screen, okay?
399
00:17:36,008 --> 00:17:37,633
So here's what's interesting.
400
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The launch happened--
401
00:17:39,175 --> 00:17:40,467
I happened to get
the timestamp off of it--
402
00:17:40,633 --> 00:17:41,633
right here.
403
00:17:41,758 --> 00:17:43,717
Okay?
404
00:17:43,883 --> 00:17:46,717
About six seconds later,
five seconds later,
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we have this blip.
406
00:17:50,175 --> 00:17:52,550
It's probably sitting
around 40 feet
407
00:17:52,675 --> 00:17:54,508
above the ground.
408
00:17:54,675 --> 00:17:57,508
And that's a very,
very strong blip.
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00:17:57,633 --> 00:18:00,175
Okay, now what does that mean?
410
00:18:00,342 --> 00:18:04,300
Okay, something changed
and created an interference.
411
00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:07,467
TRAVIS: So we launched
a rocket a mile away from you,
412
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and, uh, you detected some sort
413
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-of anomaly, uh...
-JAN: Yeah.
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00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,592
-...happened
about 40 feet above you?
-JAN: Yeah.
415
00:18:15,758 --> 00:18:17,967
Well, I assure you there
was nothing above us, but...
416
00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:20,633
-nothing that we could see.
-Nothing that you could see,
yeah, that's right.
417
00:18:20,842 --> 00:18:21,967
-JAN: Exactly.
-ERIK: Right, that's the point.
418
00:18:22,092 --> 00:18:23,800
And I saw that, and I was like,
419
00:18:23,925 --> 00:18:25,883
"What just caused that?"
420
00:18:26,050 --> 00:18:28,258
And it happened twice,
if I remember correctly.
421
00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:29,467
JAN:
That's right.
422
00:18:29,592 --> 00:18:31,467
So here's the interesting part.
423
00:18:31,592 --> 00:18:33,342
Repeatability, right?
That's how science works.
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00:18:33,508 --> 00:18:34,800
Check this out.
425
00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:38,592
So we'll go along in time
and it happened...
426
00:18:38,717 --> 00:18:40,383
again.
427
00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:42,217
-Right there.
-TRAVIS:
Wow, look at that.
428
00:18:42,383 --> 00:18:45,133
JAN: This happened
after your second launch.
429
00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:48,050
So that means, somehow or other,
launching a rocket
430
00:18:48,217 --> 00:18:50,342
in the east canyon field
down there,
431
00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,717
somehow at the triangle,
432
00:18:52,925 --> 00:18:56,133
we detect
an electromagnetic disturbance.
433
00:18:56,342 --> 00:18:58,633
Well, no, we detect an object.
434
00:18:58,842 --> 00:19:00,842
-We detect an object. That...
-JAN: That appears
and disappears.
435
00:19:01,008 --> 00:19:03,883
That appears and disappears
for just a few seconds.
436
00:19:06,092 --> 00:19:08,050
What on earth is that?
437
00:19:08,217 --> 00:19:10,217
ERIK:
Well, now that's a good question
438
00:19:11,175 --> 00:19:13,133
And I've got something
to show you that I think
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00:19:13,342 --> 00:19:14,800
you're gonna find
really interesting given
440
00:19:14,925 --> 00:19:17,050
what we already
know about this anomaly.
441
00:19:19,508 --> 00:19:21,842
This is a camera
that's positioned right on
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on the observation point
there on the tower,
443
00:19:23,675 --> 00:19:26,133
here in the east field,
looking off towards the west,
444
00:19:26,258 --> 00:19:27,925
right there at the triangle.
445
00:19:28,925 --> 00:19:30,050
I want to see if you spot
what I spotted
446
00:19:30,217 --> 00:19:31,592
when I played through this.
447
00:19:33,050 --> 00:19:34,592
TRAVIS:
Whoa, whoa! Was that it?
448
00:19:34,758 --> 00:19:37,133
That was fast, whatever it was.
449
00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:38,467
ERIK:
Let me take it back.
450
00:19:38,675 --> 00:19:40,467
Is it just one frame?
451
00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:42,133
Uh, no, there are
several frames here.
452
00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:44,175
So you'll see it enter
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the field of view
from the right.
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00:19:49,092 --> 00:19:51,633
And I'll tell you
why I find this interesting.
455
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,175
Okay, we get to this frame.
456
00:19:54,342 --> 00:19:56,758
-(key clicks)
-And it's gone.
457
00:19:56,925 --> 00:19:58,133
What?
458
00:19:58,342 --> 00:19:59,300
Yeah.
459
00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,217
KALEB:
It disappeared right there.
460
00:20:07,508 --> 00:20:08,925
THOMAS:
It disappeared right there.
461
00:20:09,092 --> 00:20:11,633
What on earth is that?
462
00:20:13,925 --> 00:20:16,133
THOMAS:
So how many frames?
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00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,467
ERIK: Okay.
We can count them.
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-TRAVIS: One. Uh-huh.
-ERIK: So there's your first.
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BOTH:
Two, three, four,
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-ERIK: Five.
-What in the world is that?
467
00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:28,008
ERIK: You know again,
just for added context,
468
00:20:28,175 --> 00:20:30,425
remember, Jan was out there
at the triangle.
469
00:20:30,592 --> 00:20:32,925
KALEB: Well, I can point out
right where we were standing
470
00:20:33,092 --> 00:20:35,008
right here.
471
00:20:36,008 --> 00:20:37,967
We were right down in here.
472
00:20:38,133 --> 00:20:40,258
ERIK:
Wow.
473
00:20:40,383 --> 00:20:41,842
TRAVIS:
What phenomenology
474
00:20:42,008 --> 00:20:44,342
could-could suddenly
get a rocket trigger
475
00:20:44,508 --> 00:20:46,675
there that you would
detect with the radar?
476
00:20:47,925 --> 00:20:49,467
You have no speculation, right?
477
00:20:49,592 --> 00:20:51,008
I have no speculation.
478
00:20:51,175 --> 00:20:54,008
TRAVIS:
They say seeing is believing,
479
00:20:54,175 --> 00:20:55,550
but it was totally unbelievable
480
00:20:55,758 --> 00:20:58,508
that just seconds
after we launched a rocket
481
00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:00,300
in the east field yesterday,
482
00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:03,508
Jan Francke's radar device
detected something
483
00:21:03,675 --> 00:21:06,550
hundreds of yards away
above the triangle.
484
00:21:07,758 --> 00:21:09,300
And at that exact same moment,
485
00:21:09,467 --> 00:21:12,467
Erik's surveillance camera
captured images of a UAP
486
00:21:12,675 --> 00:21:16,092
coming from the east field
and then disappearing
487
00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:17,842
right above the triangle.
488
00:21:18,008 --> 00:21:19,592
THOMAS:
So look at where it's at,
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00:21:19,675 --> 00:21:21,383
right there
in the middle of the screen,
490
00:21:21,550 --> 00:21:25,383
and if you come straight down
that would be exactly
491
00:21:25,550 --> 00:21:28,383
within the bounds
of that black hole
492
00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:29,800
in the lidar data.
493
00:21:30,008 --> 00:21:32,092
As soon as you started
pointing that out,
494
00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:33,592
that's what hit my mind,
Thomas, you're right.
495
00:21:33,717 --> 00:21:36,217
It is absolutely right over
496
00:21:36,342 --> 00:21:39,467
where the hole
in the lidar data is.
497
00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:43,133
As scientists, Erik and I have
to be very careful
498
00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:44,467
when analyzing data,
499
00:21:44,675 --> 00:21:47,217
but we couldn't deny
what Thomas pointed out.
500
00:21:47,383 --> 00:21:50,675
The UAP disappeared
right above the triangle.
501
00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:53,633
This is where we've documented
all kinds of strange phenomena
502
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,758
over the past few years.
503
00:21:56,717 --> 00:21:57,800
Oh, we got a malfunction.
504
00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:58,967
Everybody watch out.
505
00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:01,425
Including a mysterious blob
506
00:22:01,592 --> 00:22:03,967
that seemed to cause
a rocket to explode.
507
00:22:04,175 --> 00:22:07,217
-What is that red circle?
-Whoa.
508
00:22:07,342 --> 00:22:10,258
TRAVIS:
Infrared lidar images
of a circular ring
509
00:22:10,425 --> 00:22:12,717
with a black void
right in the center.
510
00:22:14,092 --> 00:22:16,133
And another
doughnut-shaped anomaly
511
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:18,425
that we detected just last week.
512
00:22:18,592 --> 00:22:21,800
Could these things help explain
what caused this UAP
513
00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:24,342
to disappear above
the triangle yesterday?
514
00:22:24,508 --> 00:22:27,800
And if so,
what in the world could they be?
515
00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:29,633
BRYANT:
It's just more evidence
516
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,133
that there's something
above the triangle
517
00:22:31,258 --> 00:22:32,508
and we got to do
more work out there.
518
00:22:32,675 --> 00:22:34,050
Yeah, for sure.
519
00:22:34,217 --> 00:22:35,800
ERIK:
So, initially, you know,
520
00:22:35,967 --> 00:22:37,717
we were looking for GPR returns
521
00:22:37,883 --> 00:22:41,467
from underground, so, Jan,
what are the takeaways?
522
00:22:41,675 --> 00:22:43,842
JAN:
So I want to go back
and show you some things
523
00:22:44,008 --> 00:22:45,633
that stick out
in the radar data.
524
00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,633
TRAVIS:
After what Jan showed us
above the triangle,
525
00:22:49,842 --> 00:22:53,675
we had no idea what to expect
from the subsurface scans
526
00:22:53,842 --> 00:22:56,425
he conducted yesterday
in the same location
527
00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:59,467
where previous magnetometry
and radar surveys
528
00:22:59,675 --> 00:23:03,092
have identified possible voids
or even metal tunnels
529
00:23:03,258 --> 00:23:05,342
between the triangle
and the mesa.
530
00:23:05,508 --> 00:23:08,925
So just at high level,
what are the takeaways?
531
00:23:09,092 --> 00:23:10,258
JAN:
When we look at the data
532
00:23:10,425 --> 00:23:12,175
what I want to show you is
533
00:23:12,342 --> 00:23:15,217
we did get
some interference right here.
534
00:23:15,425 --> 00:23:17,467
I don't know what that is.
535
00:23:17,633 --> 00:23:20,008
It could be a void,
it could be a metal object,
536
00:23:20,175 --> 00:23:21,633
it could be really anything,
537
00:23:21,758 --> 00:23:24,175
but it is different
than that surrounding material.
538
00:23:24,342 --> 00:23:25,883
Where is that?
539
00:23:26,050 --> 00:23:29,008
Uh, right-- if you can see
the gray marker on the map.
540
00:23:29,217 --> 00:23:30,550
Right about there.
541
00:23:30,675 --> 00:23:32,217
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow.
542
00:23:32,383 --> 00:23:35,133
So it's really interesting
that the returns you have
543
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,300
seem to kind of point
544
00:23:37,467 --> 00:23:38,842
-in a general area...
-Yes, absolutely.
545
00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:40,467
-...right in that location...
-Yeah.
546
00:23:40,675 --> 00:23:41,633
TRAVIS:
...where the Lunasonde
data point is.
547
00:23:41,842 --> 00:23:43,300
JAN:
Yeah.
548
00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:44,717
TRAVIS: That there is something
giving you a return.
549
00:23:44,842 --> 00:23:46,258
JAN: Something's going on there,
absolutely.
550
00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:48,967
Wow.
551
00:23:49,133 --> 00:23:50,342
TRAVIS:
Repeated data is exactly
552
00:23:50,508 --> 00:23:52,842
what Erik and I look for
in our experiments.
553
00:23:53,008 --> 00:23:55,050
So for Jan's GPR survey
554
00:23:55,175 --> 00:23:58,967
to confirm that there could be
something strange underground
555
00:23:59,092 --> 00:24:00,633
between the triangle
and the mesa,
556
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,842
right where two previous
subsurface scans did, too,
557
00:24:04,008 --> 00:24:05,758
is incredible.
558
00:24:05,925 --> 00:24:07,175
The question now is,
559
00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:09,300
what the heck could it be?
560
00:24:09,508 --> 00:24:12,550
We have the rumors that there's
an underground base out here.
561
00:24:12,717 --> 00:24:14,633
-I know that.
-TRAVIS: But that's
just a rumor,
562
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,300
we have no evidence of it--
unless maybe this is
563
00:24:16,425 --> 00:24:17,633
evidence of that.
564
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,967
ERIK:
This area,
565
00:24:20,175 --> 00:24:21,675
just to the west
of the triangle,
566
00:24:21,883 --> 00:24:24,967
seems to hold secrets
that I would love to discover.
567
00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:26,508
Perhaps it's got
some relationship
568
00:24:26,675 --> 00:24:28,842
to all of the strange things
that we've seen
569
00:24:29,008 --> 00:24:30,717
at surface level.
570
00:24:30,883 --> 00:24:35,092
Yeah, I think that we need
to, uh, get our drill out there
571
00:24:35,258 --> 00:24:38,758
and probe it and poke it,
and see if we can--
572
00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:41,258
Get a sample back from it
is what we need, whatever it is.
573
00:24:41,425 --> 00:24:43,383
Whether we bring in
a geotechnical drill,
574
00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:44,925
that we're just doing
a core sample down
575
00:24:45,092 --> 00:24:46,342
and seeing if we find something.
576
00:24:46,508 --> 00:24:48,258
I think a core sample
would be great.
577
00:24:48,425 --> 00:24:50,342
This is
an accessible spot, so...
578
00:24:50,508 --> 00:24:52,133
-TRAVIS: Let's do it.
-Yeah.
579
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:53,758
ERIK:
Well, Jan,
580
00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:55,592
your work has born more fruit
than I was expecting.
581
00:24:55,758 --> 00:24:58,800
Both in the sky,
it sounds like, potentially,
582
00:24:59,008 --> 00:25:00,550
as well as in the ground.
583
00:25:00,675 --> 00:25:02,467
So we appreciate you
coming out and doing this work,
584
00:25:02,592 --> 00:25:05,050
and we look forward to having
you come back to follow up.
585
00:25:05,217 --> 00:25:06,550
-My pleasure,
I enjoy being here.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, absolutely.
586
00:25:06,758 --> 00:25:08,133
-Yeah.
-No, it's-it's great.
587
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,467
Yeah, definitely
more work to be done.
588
00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:11,133
-ERIK: Yep.
-TRAVIS: Well, thanks, guys.
589
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,258
-Let's get to it.
-BRYANT: It is awesome.
590
00:25:12,425 --> 00:25:13,883
JAN:
Love it. Thank you.
591
00:25:19,175 --> 00:25:20,800
โช โช
592
00:25:21,967 --> 00:25:23,967
Erik, this is Kaleb.
593
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:25,800
Letting you know I have Snowshoe
594
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:28,008
and we are heading
to the triangle now.
595
00:25:29,217 --> 00:25:31,758
Copy you, Kaleb,
we'll be watching for you.
596
00:25:33,092 --> 00:25:34,758
ERIK:
So today,
597
00:25:34,883 --> 00:25:37,133
we're bringing out Jeremy
with Snowshoe Engineering
598
00:25:37,342 --> 00:25:38,633
back out on the ranch.
He's been here before.
599
00:25:38,842 --> 00:25:41,758
We've identified points
where we want Jeremy
600
00:25:41,925 --> 00:25:44,925
to place his rig
and take some core samples.
601
00:25:45,133 --> 00:25:47,342
We have the Lunasonde data,
602
00:25:47,508 --> 00:25:49,050
we have Jan's GPR data
603
00:25:49,217 --> 00:25:50,800
or ground-penetrating
radar data,
604
00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:53,508
and we have this magnetic
survey that was performed.
605
00:25:53,717 --> 00:25:55,425
All of them seeming to indicate
606
00:25:55,550 --> 00:25:57,925
that there's
something exceptional
607
00:25:58,050 --> 00:26:00,675
beneath the ground just
to the west of the triangle,
608
00:26:00,842 --> 00:26:02,675
and that's where
we're drilling today.
609
00:26:03,675 --> 00:26:05,008
You guys ready to do
some drilling?
610
00:26:05,175 --> 00:26:06,592
Yep. We are ready.
611
00:26:06,758 --> 00:26:07,592
Yeah.
612
00:26:07,758 --> 00:26:09,008
ERIK:
We very well may be
613
00:26:09,175 --> 00:26:11,217
coming into something
that is, that is metallic
614
00:26:11,425 --> 00:26:12,675
according to some
of the measurements we made.
615
00:26:12,842 --> 00:26:15,508
-Well, we'll know it. Yep.
-ERIK: Okay, good.
616
00:26:15,675 --> 00:26:17,133
I understand you can
go down about 30 feet
617
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:18,550
with that 8-inch bit.
618
00:26:18,675 --> 00:26:21,258
Yep, yep, that's what
we're ready to do today.
619
00:26:21,425 --> 00:26:23,383
As always, you know,
620
00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:26,425
when we seem to do
these types of activities,
621
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,467
just make sure
you take care of yourselves.
622
00:26:28,675 --> 00:26:31,175
If you feel off physically
or anything like that,
623
00:26:31,342 --> 00:26:33,092
that's important.
Please let us know.
624
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,800
There's no egos out here.
625
00:26:35,008 --> 00:26:36,842
We want to make sure that you
guys are healthy to do your job.
626
00:26:38,175 --> 00:26:40,633
THOMAS:
We inherited a narrative
on this ranch,
627
00:26:40,842 --> 00:26:42,508
that bad things happen
when you dig.
628
00:26:42,717 --> 00:26:46,467
And while I still can't say
whether or not that's true,
629
00:26:46,633 --> 00:26:48,758
I will tell you
that I've experienced
630
00:26:48,925 --> 00:26:52,092
a lot of bad things shortly
after I've dug on the ranch.
631
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:55,633
I suffered this injury in which
632
00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:58,800
my head became very swollen,
633
00:26:58,925 --> 00:27:02,300
and the thing
about this injury is
634
00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:04,217
that it affected me in a way
635
00:27:04,383 --> 00:27:06,342
that the doctors were
just baffled.
636
00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,008
It leaves you wondering,
637
00:27:08,175 --> 00:27:10,383
you know, what's taking place
here on the ranch
638
00:27:10,508 --> 00:27:12,758
that is causing
these physical ailments.
639
00:27:12,967 --> 00:27:14,550
All right, let's do it.
640
00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,133
TRAVIS:
Let's get rolling!
641
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:18,050
During the drilling operation...
642
00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:21,883
...Erik will collect
GPS data from a tracker
643
00:27:22,050 --> 00:27:23,717
attached to the drill rig.
644
00:27:24,758 --> 00:27:26,800
We'll also be running
our high-speed cameras
645
00:27:26,967 --> 00:27:30,133
that record hundreds of images
per second to constantly
646
00:27:30,342 --> 00:27:33,467
scan the area above the triangle
647
00:27:33,675 --> 00:27:35,467
and the drill rig
for anything strange
648
00:27:35,633 --> 00:27:37,092
we might miss in the moment.
649
00:27:37,258 --> 00:27:38,967
Who knows if all the UAPs
650
00:27:39,175 --> 00:27:42,633
and possible evidence
of portals that we've seen
651
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,883
could be connected
to something underground?
652
00:27:45,092 --> 00:27:47,133
But, hopefully,
today we'll figure that out.
653
00:27:47,258 --> 00:27:48,550
Good?
654
00:27:53,217 --> 00:27:55,342
Hey, guys. Just letting you
know, the drill is going.
655
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,050
We are in the ground.
656
00:28:03,008 --> 00:28:04,925
โช โช
657
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,092
KALEB:
I've heard all the stories, too,
658
00:28:08,258 --> 00:28:10,925
that there's underground
facilities out here,
659
00:28:11,092 --> 00:28:13,883
there's some kind
of alien technology
660
00:28:14,050 --> 00:28:16,758
underneath
the triangle area and so...
661
00:28:16,842 --> 00:28:19,300
if there's an actual tunnel
or tunnel system
662
00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:20,800
below Skinwalker Ranch,
663
00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:22,967
I think that would be
truly validating.
664
00:28:23,175 --> 00:28:25,633
So I'm really interested
to see what happens
665
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,592
over the course of drilling.
666
00:28:51,175 --> 00:28:52,633
Hey, guys.
667
00:28:52,842 --> 00:28:54,842
They're hitting
a harder substance.
668
00:28:58,342 --> 00:29:00,050
Do you want a core sample?
669
00:29:00,217 --> 00:29:02,633
Yes, Thomas. If we can, uh,
get both of them over here,
670
00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:05,258
-we'll take a look at 'em.
-Copy that.
671
00:29:07,008 --> 00:29:09,592
โช โช
672
00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:23,133
Hey, buddy.
673
00:29:24,467 --> 00:29:27,800
So kind of weird
at the bottom of this one.
674
00:29:28,008 --> 00:29:30,133
There's a hard layer
and then a soft layer.
675
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:31,800
THOMAS:
Maybe indicating
676
00:29:31,967 --> 00:29:33,925
that we got a water pocket
or something under there.
677
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:35,800
Nah...
678
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:37,467
I don't know
what it would be, I mean,
679
00:29:37,675 --> 00:29:39,300
we'll loosen it
680
00:29:39,508 --> 00:29:41,133
-and you can check it out.
-Okay.
681
00:29:41,342 --> 00:29:42,967
JEREMY:
If you want to pay attention
to what's in the shoe,
682
00:29:43,175 --> 00:29:45,217
'cause that's where
the weirdness happened.
683
00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:46,675
THOMAS:
Okay.
684
00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:49,467
I'll be back.
685
00:29:49,633 --> 00:29:52,508
After being on this ranch
for seven years
686
00:29:52,675 --> 00:29:56,925
and hearing countless stories
of tunnels and caves
687
00:29:57,050 --> 00:30:00,008
and vast, complex
systems underground,
688
00:30:00,175 --> 00:30:01,967
could it be that we're
finally punching through
689
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,175
into what's
underneath the triangle?
690
00:30:05,842 --> 00:30:07,508
This one may be of interest.
691
00:30:07,717 --> 00:30:09,300
-This is our 30-foot sample.
-Okay.
692
00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:11,133
And the reason I say
it may be of interest is
693
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:14,967
that when Jeremy handed it
to me, he told me
694
00:30:15,175 --> 00:30:17,425
that this is different
than what they see
695
00:30:17,592 --> 00:30:18,592
in most of their drilling.
696
00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:19,967
ERIK:
Okay.
697
00:30:21,675 --> 00:30:22,633
THOMAS:
Here we go.
698
00:30:22,842 --> 00:30:24,508
So if you could see,
699
00:30:24,675 --> 00:30:27,633
solid, solid, solid,
and then nothing.
700
00:30:27,717 --> 00:30:30,383
Like they just hit the ceiling
of whatever it was,
701
00:30:30,550 --> 00:30:32,633
punched through and,
and that was it.
702
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,133
So that would imply a void.
703
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,508
Yes.
704
00:30:36,675 --> 00:30:38,717
ERIK:
Interesting.
705
00:30:45,008 --> 00:30:47,217
So that would imply a void?
ERIK:
706
00:30:47,383 --> 00:30:48,758
Yes.
707
00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:51,175
Interesting.
708
00:30:51,342 --> 00:30:54,175
Thomas is delivering
these core samples
709
00:30:54,342 --> 00:30:57,300
from the drill site
in sections to the table.
710
00:30:57,467 --> 00:30:59,925
We're at about 27 feet and...
711
00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:02,467
it appears that there's
some kind of opening.
712
00:31:02,633 --> 00:31:04,133
I'm really interested
in finding out
713
00:31:04,342 --> 00:31:05,967
how big this void is.
714
00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:08,133
And I can't help wondering,
what have we hit here
715
00:31:08,342 --> 00:31:09,717
beneath the triangle?
716
00:31:09,883 --> 00:31:11,675
It's almost like you drove
a pipe into a pipe.
717
00:31:11,842 --> 00:31:14,467
-Well, that's interesting.
-That's damn interesting.
718
00:31:14,633 --> 00:31:16,383
All right,
before we even move that,
719
00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:18,758
I want to take
a radiation measurement.
720
00:31:20,675 --> 00:31:22,758
โช โช
721
00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:26,925
So far, nothing.
722
00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,342
All right, well,
I'll tell you what,
723
00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:31,050
-um, I want,
I want to bag these samples.
-Yeah.
724
00:31:31,217 --> 00:31:32,800
Tell me if I'm wrong,
but it makes sense
725
00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:34,258
to just keep punching through
726
00:31:34,425 --> 00:31:35,925
to see how far
it goes like that.
727
00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:38,550
I think he's got the ability
to go another 20 feet.
728
00:31:38,717 --> 00:31:39,967
-I say let's do it.
-Okay.
729
00:31:40,175 --> 00:31:41,508
I mean, after all,
we are hitting
730
00:31:41,675 --> 00:31:43,133
something interesting
right there.
731
00:31:43,342 --> 00:31:44,717
Maybe I'll run over there
and tell him to,
732
00:31:44,883 --> 00:31:46,092
if possible, let's go
with the same hole.
733
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,967
Understood, yeah, okay.
If he's up for it.
734
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:49,967
I don't know
what we've gotten into here,
735
00:31:50,133 --> 00:31:53,633
but we've just begun penetrating
736
00:31:53,758 --> 00:31:57,300
a very different region
from everything above.
737
00:31:57,467 --> 00:31:58,675
So, my instincts as a scientist,
738
00:31:58,842 --> 00:32:00,800
if not my impulse,
is to keep going.
739
00:32:00,967 --> 00:32:03,300
Let's find out
how big this void is.
740
00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:13,633
I'm getting like
a really bad metallic...
741
00:32:13,842 --> 00:32:15,592
-Taste?
-...taste, are you?
742
00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,342
Or just me?
743
00:32:18,717 --> 00:32:21,800
-No.
-Really weird.
744
00:32:21,925 --> 00:32:23,217
Do you feel all right?
745
00:32:23,425 --> 00:32:26,467
I feel fine, it's just like,
very metallic-y.
746
00:32:26,633 --> 00:32:28,133
MASON:
Well, you know what they say,
747
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,592
-it's a curse
to break ground out here.
-BRADY: Yeah.
748
00:32:31,758 --> 00:32:34,342
Well, if it gets worse,
say something.
749
00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:36,467
ERIK:
Well, guys, you're going
to be interested in this.
750
00:32:36,592 --> 00:32:39,133
-Yeah?
-I just learned from Thomas...
751
00:32:39,342 --> 00:32:43,092
we ran into
what is essentially a void.
752
00:32:43,217 --> 00:32:45,592
-Wow.
-So I've asked him
to keep going,
753
00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:47,300
to just keep on punching through
754
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:50,008
to see how deep that runs,
'cause that could explain
755
00:32:50,175 --> 00:32:52,800
that point that we saw
in the Lunasonde survey
756
00:32:53,008 --> 00:32:55,092
and it could line up with
some of what Jan has shown us.
757
00:32:55,175 --> 00:32:56,925
So, while we've got it open,
we ought to
758
00:32:57,092 --> 00:32:58,758
just keep punching down through
to see what we get.
759
00:32:58,925 --> 00:33:00,092
Sounds like we're in agreement.
760
00:33:00,175 --> 00:33:01,258
-Yeah.
-Okay.
761
00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:06,133
Shut it down, shut it down.
762
00:33:07,967 --> 00:33:10,175
While we're ready
to start drilling
763
00:33:10,383 --> 00:33:12,967
beyond that 30-foot mark
that we were originally at,
764
00:33:13,175 --> 00:33:16,133
I go over to check on them and
see if we're ready to get going,
765
00:33:16,342 --> 00:33:18,967
and Brady just told me
766
00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:22,467
that he's got a really strong
metallic taste in his mouth.
767
00:33:22,675 --> 00:33:24,758
Come on, we're going.
768
00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:28,342
Hey, guys. Somebody.
769
00:33:28,508 --> 00:33:29,425
Having been on this ranch,
770
00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,592
I've experienced that before,
771
00:33:31,717 --> 00:33:34,383
and for me personally
it's been accompanied by
772
00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:36,592
some serious health issues,
773
00:33:36,758 --> 00:33:38,800
so I'm really concerned
at this point.
774
00:33:39,008 --> 00:33:41,008
So you-- Are you--
Like, are you feeling okay?
775
00:33:41,175 --> 00:33:43,508
No, I feel completely fine,
it's just the really, like,
776
00:33:43,717 --> 00:33:45,925
strong metallic taste
I have in my mouth.
777
00:33:46,008 --> 00:33:49,217
-Dragon!
-I feel completely normal.
778
00:33:49,425 --> 00:33:52,758
-When did you first...
-It's been about an hour now.
779
00:33:52,925 --> 00:33:54,050
THOMAS:
Oh, shoot.
780
00:33:54,217 --> 00:33:55,592
Hey, guys?
781
00:33:55,758 --> 00:33:57,467
TRAVIS:
What's happening, Erik?
782
00:33:57,633 --> 00:33:59,550
-Dragon!
-BRYANT: What's going on?
783
00:33:59,675 --> 00:34:01,133
THOMAS:
We-we have a safety issue
we need to address right now.
784
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,258
-Is something happening?
-What's going on?
785
00:34:03,425 --> 00:34:04,508
BRYANT:
I don't know. Thomas is just
on his way over.
786
00:34:04,675 --> 00:34:06,133
Well, um...
He-- Look, he's...
787
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,550
-He's feeling fine.
-I feel perfectly fine.
788
00:34:07,717 --> 00:34:09,842
But he's had--
For the last little while,
789
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,967
he's had a really strong
metallic taste in his mouth.
790
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:14,133
ERIK:
Oh, oh, whoa, whoa.
791
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,633
-That is a very strong sign
of something going on.
-Yeah.
792
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,300
ERIK:
And have you been
right over there
793
00:34:18,425 --> 00:34:20,175
-right next to the rig or on it?
-Yeah, I've been running it.
794
00:34:20,342 --> 00:34:21,967
ERIK:
Brady, from Snowshoe,
795
00:34:22,175 --> 00:34:24,633
is describing
metal taste in his mouth,
796
00:34:24,842 --> 00:34:26,133
and I recognize that right away
797
00:34:26,342 --> 00:34:28,133
as one of the potential
symptoms of exposure
798
00:34:28,342 --> 00:34:31,717
to a very high magnetic field,
among other things.
799
00:34:31,883 --> 00:34:34,133
Like increased levels
of radiation.
800
00:34:34,342 --> 00:34:36,425
I don't know exactly
what the cause is,
801
00:34:36,592 --> 00:34:37,925
but this is concerning.
802
00:34:38,092 --> 00:34:39,300
I think we should quit
talking about it
803
00:34:39,508 --> 00:34:40,300
and get him off the ranch.
804
00:34:40,508 --> 00:34:41,633
I agree. I agree, I agree.
805
00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:42,592
ERIK:
Hey, guys, you want to help me
806
00:34:42,717 --> 00:34:43,633
take some instruments over
807
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,092
and take some local readings?
808
00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:46,592
Maybe we need to go
measure the gamma's
809
00:34:46,675 --> 00:34:47,508
-and stuff over there.
-All right.
810
00:34:47,675 --> 00:34:48,800
-I agree.
-Let's go.
811
00:34:48,967 --> 00:34:50,592
TRAVIS:
Now, I don't know if the legend
812
00:34:50,717 --> 00:34:52,300
about bad things happening
when you disturb the earth
813
00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:54,217
on Skinwalker Ranch is
true or not,
814
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,425
but since Brady was
experiencing symptoms
815
00:34:56,592 --> 00:34:58,217
like you'd get
with high levels
816
00:34:58,342 --> 00:35:00,467
of electromagnetic
radiation exposure,
817
00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:02,883
we wanted to take
measurements and readings
818
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:04,967
with our scanning devices
to see exactly
819
00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:06,967
what may be coming out
of that hole,
820
00:35:07,175 --> 00:35:08,925
and we all wanted
to make certain
821
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:10,217
we weren't in any danger.
822
00:35:10,383 --> 00:35:12,008
Uh...
823
00:35:12,175 --> 00:35:13,758
I'm not getting anything
significant on the gamma ray.
824
00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:15,758
No, I'm getting exactly
the same reading
825
00:35:15,883 --> 00:35:17,175
as I got over there
on our table.
826
00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:19,633
-It's not gamma rays.
-ERIK: Okay. So, so,
827
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,633
I don't see anything here
to account
828
00:35:20,758 --> 00:35:21,675
for what he is experiencing.
829
00:35:21,842 --> 00:35:23,342
TRAVIS:
Me, either.
830
00:35:23,508 --> 00:35:24,883
You know, just because
we're not getting anything
831
00:35:25,008 --> 00:35:27,133
with these instruments
doesn't necessarily mean
832
00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:28,883
that there wasn't
something affecting him.
833
00:35:29,092 --> 00:35:31,050
Because it could be,
uh, microwaves.
834
00:35:31,175 --> 00:35:32,633
It could be anything.
835
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,300
-240.
-Oh, it's going up.
836
00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:36,800
-You got a 240?
-Yeah, I just got a 240.
837
00:35:37,008 --> 00:35:39,133
-TRAVIS: It spiked. Mine did,
too.
-0.3. 0.3. 0.3 right there.
838
00:35:39,258 --> 00:35:42,300
That's the highest reading
I've had today.
839
00:35:42,425 --> 00:35:45,175
-So that's two times
our normal measurement.
-And what are you measuring?
840
00:35:45,342 --> 00:35:46,967
It's a measure of
the radiation dose per hour.
841
00:35:47,175 --> 00:35:49,883
So, we're-we're
at roughly, uh,
842
00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:51,842
500 to 1,000 times
below anything dangerous.
843
00:35:52,008 --> 00:35:53,925
Yeah. I can't connect the dots
844
00:35:54,008 --> 00:35:56,633
to a metallic taste
in his mouth.
845
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,300
THOMAS:
So, if I understand right,
846
00:35:58,508 --> 00:36:00,258
you guys are kind of
dead in the water
847
00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:01,383
until the driller comes back,
so this is gonna sit as is.
848
00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:03,050
Yup.
849
00:36:03,258 --> 00:36:04,633
ERIK:
Oh, so you can't keep going?
850
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,758
-No.
-Yeah, so we need to...
851
00:36:05,925 --> 00:36:07,467
I did not understand that.
852
00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:08,925
I find that interesting, right?
853
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:12,092
How is it that the one, uh...
854
00:36:12,217 --> 00:36:15,800
weak link in the chain
is what got attacked or affected
855
00:36:15,967 --> 00:36:17,175
and can't be here
to continue drilling?
856
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,925
The critical link in the chain.
857
00:36:19,092 --> 00:36:20,258
TRAVIS:
The critical link is right.
Yeah.
858
00:36:20,425 --> 00:36:22,050
ERIK:
I'm sure this won't be the last
859
00:36:22,217 --> 00:36:24,133
frustration of its kind
on the ranch
860
00:36:24,217 --> 00:36:25,800
when we're doing
something like this,
861
00:36:25,967 --> 00:36:27,342
trying to drill into the ground
or into the mesa.
862
00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:30,300
I'm not prepared to give up
on this location,
863
00:36:30,467 --> 00:36:32,467
but at least for now we're
going to have to shut down,
864
00:36:32,675 --> 00:36:35,092
regroup, and figure out
how we're gonna go forward.
865
00:36:36,758 --> 00:36:39,008
-I'm starting to taste metal.
I'm not kidding.
-What?
866
00:36:39,175 --> 00:36:41,133
-I'm not kidding you.
-You're tasting metal now, too?
867
00:36:41,258 --> 00:36:42,633
Yeah. I'm not kidding you,
I'm-I'm tasting it.
868
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,425
All right, then you need--
You now have to leave.
869
00:36:45,592 --> 00:36:47,050
-Come on.
-All right,
let's get out of here.
870
00:36:47,258 --> 00:36:49,842
All right,
just because of this second one,
871
00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:51,883
I want you guys to load up.
872
00:36:52,092 --> 00:36:53,633
Clear out as quick as you can.
873
00:36:58,425 --> 00:36:59,758
Hey, guys.
874
00:36:59,967 --> 00:37:01,300
ERIK:
You're not gonna believe this.
875
00:37:01,508 --> 00:37:03,133
I was standing over there
and I start-- no kidding,
876
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:05,175
I started to taste
that metal taste in my mouth.
877
00:37:05,342 --> 00:37:06,508
No kidding.
878
00:37:06,717 --> 00:37:08,175
Well, you're no different
than anybody else.
879
00:37:08,342 --> 00:37:09,717
We got to get you out of here.
880
00:37:09,883 --> 00:37:12,092
ERIK:
This is bad.
881
00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:17,300
-This is bad.
you out o.
882
00:37:17,508 --> 00:37:19,383
It-It's like when you touch
your tongue to a battery.
883
00:37:19,508 --> 00:37:21,592
That's the first time
I've experienced that,
884
00:37:21,717 --> 00:37:22,800
is standing next to that rig.
885
00:37:22,967 --> 00:37:24,175
Uh, he's the second one,
886
00:37:24,383 --> 00:37:26,092
so we need to get him
out of here.
887
00:37:26,258 --> 00:37:27,758
It could be a phenomenology
that we never heard of before.
888
00:37:27,925 --> 00:37:29,175
-Right?
-Exactly.
889
00:37:29,342 --> 00:37:30,925
Let's go look at that drill rig
again.
890
00:37:31,092 --> 00:37:33,175
After drilling into a void,
891
00:37:33,342 --> 00:37:35,175
right where
we've detected evidence
892
00:37:35,342 --> 00:37:37,342
of a possible metal tunnel
below the triangle,
893
00:37:37,467 --> 00:37:40,342
Erik Bard
and driller Brady Davis
894
00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:43,300
suddenly had the sensation
of tasting metal in their mouths
895
00:37:43,467 --> 00:37:45,175
and had to be
rushed off the property.
896
00:37:45,342 --> 00:37:47,217
We're not sure exactly
what caused it,
897
00:37:47,383 --> 00:37:49,133
so Thomas and I needed to see
898
00:37:49,342 --> 00:37:50,508
if we could figure it out.
899
00:37:51,925 --> 00:37:53,467
TRAVIS:
Where was Erik standing?
900
00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:54,675
THOMAS:
Right here.
901
00:37:55,675 --> 00:37:58,092
Like, it's something
in this area right here.
902
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:01,217
Oh.
903
00:38:04,675 --> 00:38:06,592
Uh, put your hand on that.
904
00:38:09,842 --> 00:38:10,800
TRAVIS:
Dude.
905
00:38:11,008 --> 00:38:13,050
โช โช
906
00:38:15,508 --> 00:38:17,342
That's crazy, man.
907
00:38:17,508 --> 00:38:19,967
I feel like
my sinuses are getting, like,
908
00:38:20,175 --> 00:38:21,800
just like I'm going up
in an airplane.
909
00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:24,758
So, I can feel this nerve
in my arm
910
00:38:24,883 --> 00:38:26,592
right here,
all the way up my arm.
911
00:38:26,758 --> 00:38:28,425
THOMAS:
Yeah, I feel it,
like-- like my skin's crawling.
912
00:38:28,592 --> 00:38:31,592
This thing's highly electrically
charged, is what it is.
913
00:38:33,342 --> 00:38:36,217
This is crazy. As soon
as we touched the drill rig,
914
00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:38,800
both Thomas and I
felt electric shocks.
915
00:38:39,008 --> 00:38:41,133
It's like grabbing
an electric fence, dude.
916
00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:43,300
Then my fingers start tingling.
917
00:38:43,508 --> 00:38:44,675
Yeah.
918
00:38:44,842 --> 00:38:46,133
TRAVIS:
So, I got the idea
919
00:38:46,342 --> 00:38:48,300
for a quick experiment
with volt meters
920
00:38:48,508 --> 00:38:51,592
to see just how much electricity
it was actually conducting.
921
00:38:51,758 --> 00:38:55,383
If we measured anything more
than a tiny fraction of a volt,
922
00:38:55,508 --> 00:38:57,633
it would mean that
we had drilled into something
923
00:38:57,842 --> 00:39:01,425
very strange under the ground
near the triangle.
924
00:39:01,592 --> 00:39:02,717
All right.
First touch them together
925
00:39:02,883 --> 00:39:04,300
to make sure they say zero.
926
00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,467
Yep. Now touch the black one
to the ground
927
00:39:06,633 --> 00:39:09,258
and the red one
to the pole somewhere.
928
00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,258
Oh, yeah, look at that.
929
00:39:15,425 --> 00:39:17,050
Oh, we're getting
more than a half a volt
930
00:39:17,175 --> 00:39:19,092
from there to there, easy.
931
00:39:19,217 --> 00:39:20,342
THOMAS:
Where's the electricity
coming from?
932
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:22,175
Is this putting electricity out?
933
00:39:22,342 --> 00:39:24,717
TRAVIS:
No, look at that.
934
00:39:24,883 --> 00:39:26,800
And there is electricity.
935
00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:30,592
There is absolutely electricity
built up on this thing.
936
00:39:30,717 --> 00:39:32,258
There shouldn't be any,
should there?
937
00:39:32,383 --> 00:39:34,842
No, not that much,
not unless he was drilling
938
00:39:35,008 --> 00:39:36,383
into something conductive
939
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:38,217
that had electricity
flowing through.
940
00:39:39,342 --> 00:39:41,258
Now, a half a volt
of electricity
941
00:39:41,425 --> 00:39:42,758
really isn't that much.
942
00:39:42,883 --> 00:39:44,300
It wouldn't even be enough
943
00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:47,342
to power a laptop computer
or a light bulb.
944
00:39:47,508 --> 00:39:49,800
But here's the point:
this was at least
945
00:39:50,008 --> 00:39:52,258
ten times more
than there should be.
946
00:39:52,425 --> 00:39:55,508
Unless there's something
artificial down there.
947
00:39:55,675 --> 00:39:56,842
Is it a tunnel?
948
00:39:57,008 --> 00:39:58,300
Well, we don't know that yet,
949
00:39:58,508 --> 00:40:00,508
and we don't know
exactly what caused
950
00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:02,467
Erik and Brady
to start tasting metal.
951
00:40:02,675 --> 00:40:05,217
Maybe there really is something
to the legend
952
00:40:05,383 --> 00:40:07,925
that bad things happen
when you disturb the ground
953
00:40:08,092 --> 00:40:09,383
here on Skinwalker Ranch.
954
00:40:09,508 --> 00:40:12,258
Hopefully, those guys are okay.
955
00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:15,925
All right, well, I'm convinced
now it's electrical.
956
00:40:16,092 --> 00:40:17,300
Uh, yeah, I am, too.
957
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:19,592
TRAVIS:
Amazing stuff, man.
958
00:40:19,758 --> 00:40:22,175
THOMAS:
Yeah, it's crazy for sure.
959
00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:25,467
TRAVIS:
We have a lot of data
960
00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:27,633
and high-speed camera video
to analyze,
961
00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:30,467
so once we make sure
everyone is safe,
962
00:40:30,675 --> 00:40:32,508
we're gonna regroup
to see what else
963
00:40:32,675 --> 00:40:34,508
today's experiments
will help reveal,
964
00:40:34,675 --> 00:40:37,258
and then we can decide
how best to move forward
965
00:40:37,425 --> 00:40:40,675
and figure out just what
really is below the triangle.
966
00:40:41,675 --> 00:40:43,050
ERIK:
If it turns out that we are
967
00:40:43,217 --> 00:40:44,967
dealing with
continuous structures,
968
00:40:45,133 --> 00:40:48,008
anything at all like tunnels,
then that does lend credence
969
00:40:48,175 --> 00:40:51,758
to the reports that we've heard
of artificial structures,
970
00:40:51,883 --> 00:40:55,300
even things referred to
as bases beneath the ranch,
971
00:40:55,425 --> 00:40:58,967
and we are going to have
to investigate deeper
972
00:40:59,175 --> 00:41:01,258
what's underground
there at the triangle
973
00:41:01,425 --> 00:41:03,133
and perhaps
in the east canyon area.
974
00:41:03,342 --> 00:41:05,050
BRANDON:
Why do we continue to see
975
00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:08,967
such disturbing events unfold
on this piece of property?
976
00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:13,217
What lies in the regions
beyond the area of the triangle,
977
00:41:13,342 --> 00:41:15,717
the east field
and even the homesteads?
978
00:41:15,883 --> 00:41:18,967
Will we get answers
by further exploring
979
00:41:19,175 --> 00:41:21,133
the region of Dry Gulch Creek?
980
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:23,342
Will there be
additional evidence
981
00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:25,550
of potential dire wolves,
982
00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:29,758
or some other type of
strange phenomenon?
983
00:41:30,842 --> 00:41:32,300
Time will tell.
984
00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:35,508
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