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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,508 --> 00:00:01,883 2,000 feet high 2 00:00:03,383 --> 00:00:04,800 but this is showing it only at about 3 00:00:04,967 --> 00:00:06,675 150 feet or something. 4 00:00:06,842 --> 00:00:08,217 So, I've taken the Lunasonde data 5 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:10,675 that we got last year, and there's the rocket launches. 6 00:00:10,842 --> 00:00:12,133 -BRYANT: They do line up. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 7 00:00:12,342 --> 00:00:13,633 Look at that scapula. 8 00:00:13,842 --> 00:00:16,133 That is a tooth that bit all the way through. 9 00:00:16,342 --> 00:00:17,550 It would have to be larger than a wolf. 10 00:00:17,717 --> 00:00:19,383 That is a dire wolf, 11 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:20,925 which is an extinct species. 12 00:00:21,092 --> 00:00:22,592 THOMAS: Look at this tree right here. 13 00:00:22,675 --> 00:00:25,258 It looks charred. 14 00:00:25,425 --> 00:00:26,925 TRAVIS: We got a dead animal right here! 15 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:28,383 -THOMAS: Oh, What is that? -BRYANT: What is that? 16 00:00:29,467 --> 00:00:32,967 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:35,508 It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:35,675 --> 00:00:40,300 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 19 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:42,717 animal mutilations, 20 00:00:42,842 --> 00:00:45,133 bizarre UFO sightings 21 00:00:45,258 --> 00:00:50,175 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 22 00:00:50,342 --> 00:00:52,800 For 20 years, the federal government 23 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:56,133 tried to find answers and failed. 24 00:00:56,342 --> 00:01:00,258 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 25 00:01:00,425 --> 00:01:04,133 researchers and experts has taken over. 26 00:01:04,342 --> 00:01:08,300 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 27 00:01:10,758 --> 00:01:14,175 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 28 00:01:22,008 --> 00:01:23,550 KANDUS: Thanks for meeting with us today. 29 00:01:23,758 --> 00:01:24,967 BEN: Absolutely. 30 00:01:25,175 --> 00:01:26,967 We'd love to hear what you found out about 31 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:28,342 those samples of the dead things we found 32 00:01:28,508 --> 00:01:30,425 in the river. 33 00:01:30,633 --> 00:01:32,633 BEN: Okay, all of it was very interesting 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,592 and kind of some unexpected things. 35 00:01:35,842 --> 00:01:38,133 TRAVIS: Last week, we made a bunch of 36 00:01:38,258 --> 00:01:40,133 strange discoveries in Dry Gulch Creek, 37 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:43,717 which borders the south field of Skinwalker Ranch. 38 00:01:43,842 --> 00:01:45,883 These included a scorched tree 39 00:01:46,050 --> 00:01:48,217 where nothing else around it was burned, 40 00:01:48,342 --> 00:01:51,633 and the decayed carcass of some kind of animal 41 00:01:51,717 --> 00:01:54,758 with huge fangs, so we couldn't wait 42 00:01:54,967 --> 00:01:56,925 to hear the scientific report 43 00:01:57,133 --> 00:01:59,842 on the samples that we sent to biologist Ben Woodruff 44 00:02:00,050 --> 00:02:03,175 at the Hutchings Museum Institute in Lehi, Utah. 45 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:05,592 So, I want to show you some pictures 46 00:02:05,758 --> 00:02:08,300 from the olive wood tree that was burned, 47 00:02:08,508 --> 00:02:10,133 and the burn looked a little strange. 48 00:02:13,508 --> 00:02:15,217 I can't 100% confirm this, 49 00:02:15,383 --> 00:02:18,342 but the way the burn happened looked like pyrolysis, 50 00:02:18,508 --> 00:02:22,883 which is where a burn happens without combustion, 51 00:02:23,008 --> 00:02:25,300 and without burning through any oxygen. 52 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:27,967 So, if you were to witness it, 53 00:02:28,175 --> 00:02:30,133 it would just be turning black in front of your eyes 54 00:02:30,342 --> 00:02:31,258 without a flame. 55 00:02:32,675 --> 00:02:35,300 Then the question is, what is making heat hot enough 56 00:02:35,467 --> 00:02:39,675 to create a non-combustion fire and have no oxygen? 57 00:02:41,008 --> 00:02:42,092 Well, you'd have to have an extreme 58 00:02:42,217 --> 00:02:43,842 -heat source. -Yes. 59 00:02:44,008 --> 00:02:45,008 I'm thinking about that post we found. 60 00:02:45,175 --> 00:02:46,217 I was just exactly 61 00:02:46,383 --> 00:02:47,467 -thinking about that post. -Yeah. 62 00:02:47,592 --> 00:02:48,883 Which is right where 63 00:02:49,050 --> 00:02:51,300 we saw that silver orb coming toward 64 00:02:51,508 --> 00:02:52,508 our game camera. 65 00:02:52,717 --> 00:02:54,342 -It is, isn't it? -BRYANT: It is. 66 00:02:56,717 --> 00:02:58,467 THOMAS: Huh, look at this. 67 00:02:58,675 --> 00:03:00,467 We got a burn mark. 68 00:03:01,842 --> 00:03:03,050 TRAVIS: In 2022, 69 00:03:03,175 --> 00:03:05,133 Kaleb Bench and Thomas Winterton 70 00:03:05,342 --> 00:03:07,092 noticed a fence post in the south field 71 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:09,967 with a half-circle-shaped hole through it 72 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:12,508 and burns that were just like the olive tree 73 00:03:12,633 --> 00:03:14,342 that we found nearby in the creek. 74 00:03:14,508 --> 00:03:17,675 And then, after setting up game cameras 75 00:03:17,842 --> 00:03:19,383 to keep a better watch over that area, 76 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:22,467 we captured an image of a silver orb 77 00:03:22,675 --> 00:03:24,300 in the middle of the field. 78 00:03:24,383 --> 00:03:26,842 But was it connected to the scorched fence post 79 00:03:27,008 --> 00:03:29,175 or even the olive tree? 80 00:03:30,175 --> 00:03:33,758 Man, I find that really interesting. 81 00:03:33,925 --> 00:03:35,883 BEN: Let me show you next, 82 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:38,800 the jaw sample, the canine that you found. 83 00:03:38,967 --> 00:03:40,717 ERIK: I want to see this. 84 00:03:42,842 --> 00:03:44,300 TRAVIS: About six months ago, 85 00:03:44,508 --> 00:03:46,342 a dead cow was discovered near the south field 86 00:03:46,508 --> 00:03:49,508 that had massive teeth marks in it. 87 00:03:50,508 --> 00:03:53,175 BEN: The size fits into that hole perfectly. 88 00:03:53,342 --> 00:03:54,800 TRAVIS: And last week, 89 00:03:54,967 --> 00:03:56,508 Ben suggested that one animal 90 00:03:56,675 --> 00:03:59,092 with teeth large enough to make those sized wounds 91 00:03:59,258 --> 00:04:01,383 could have been a dire wolf, 92 00:04:01,550 --> 00:04:05,217 which went extinct about 10,000 years ago. 93 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:08,467 What's even crazier than that 94 00:04:08,675 --> 00:04:10,800 is a story told by the Sherman family, 95 00:04:10,967 --> 00:04:12,842 who lived here in the 1990s, 96 00:04:13,008 --> 00:04:14,592 that they actually saw 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,050 a dire wolf attack their cattle. 98 00:04:17,175 --> 00:04:20,467 So, we were all on the edge of our seats to hear 99 00:04:20,675 --> 00:04:23,592 what Ben had to say about the dead animal 100 00:04:23,717 --> 00:04:26,800 we just discovered in the creek bordering the south field. 101 00:04:27,925 --> 00:04:29,925 BEN: I want to give you a couple of examples here, 102 00:04:30,092 --> 00:04:31,133 some comparative anatomy. 103 00:04:31,342 --> 00:04:33,008 So, this is the side view 104 00:04:33,217 --> 00:04:34,717 of a typical coyote skull. 105 00:04:36,008 --> 00:04:38,467 And I want you to focus down here. 106 00:04:38,633 --> 00:04:40,133 At the bottom, 107 00:04:40,342 --> 00:04:44,258 you can see this bulge is not very big. 108 00:04:45,258 --> 00:04:47,050 This is the part of the jaw 109 00:04:47,217 --> 00:04:50,008 that undergoes the most stress 110 00:04:50,175 --> 00:04:53,175 when these teeth here are crunching down. 111 00:04:54,217 --> 00:04:56,258 So, keep that in mind. Keep the shape in mind. 112 00:04:57,342 --> 00:04:59,842 This is a regular, modern-day gray wolf. 113 00:05:01,258 --> 00:05:03,300 And they're tackling larger prey, 114 00:05:03,508 --> 00:05:06,092 up to the size of moose or even a buffalo. 115 00:05:06,258 --> 00:05:09,175 And you can see how much larger that is. 116 00:05:11,175 --> 00:05:14,425 And this is a dire wolf. 117 00:05:16,883 --> 00:05:18,133 You can see down below here 118 00:05:18,300 --> 00:05:21,217 how much larger that bulge is. 119 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:24,467 -TRAVIS: That's huge. -THOMAS: Yeah. 120 00:05:26,508 --> 00:05:29,217 BEN: Here is the dentition on your jaw. 121 00:05:31,467 --> 00:05:33,800 That has the much thicker, larger bulge 122 00:05:34,008 --> 00:05:35,967 like a dire wolf. 123 00:05:36,133 --> 00:05:37,967 TRAVIS: Look at that. 124 00:05:38,050 --> 00:05:39,633 What? 125 00:05:39,842 --> 00:05:40,717 Are you kidding me? 126 00:05:40,842 --> 00:05:42,550 KAELEB: No way. 127 00:05:44,592 --> 00:05:46,383 BEN: I don't want to put out a hypothesis, 128 00:05:46,592 --> 00:05:49,592 but if you handed me this and said, "Hey, what is this?" 129 00:05:49,717 --> 00:05:51,883 Everything I'm measuring, everything I'm looking at says 130 00:05:52,050 --> 00:05:54,592 it looks like it has dire wolf in it 131 00:05:54,758 --> 00:05:55,800 or is a young dire wolf. 132 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,758 But I'm hoping we can do a DNA test. 133 00:06:01,842 --> 00:06:05,050 THOMAS: If we can prove this is a legit dire wolf, 134 00:06:05,217 --> 00:06:07,217 that would be the first physical evidence 135 00:06:07,342 --> 00:06:09,008 that we've been given from anybody 136 00:06:09,175 --> 00:06:11,508 that suggests that the Shermans actually saw 137 00:06:11,675 --> 00:06:14,300 a dire wolf trying to pull their cows through the fence. 138 00:06:14,467 --> 00:06:16,342 We love everything about your approach, Ben, 139 00:06:16,508 --> 00:06:19,133 and I-I am... I am so grateful 140 00:06:19,258 --> 00:06:20,675 for everything you've shared with us. 141 00:06:20,842 --> 00:06:23,967 KANDUS: Yeah. Thanks so much for coming on 142 00:06:24,092 --> 00:06:25,300 and sharing your results with us. 143 00:06:25,508 --> 00:06:27,425 We'll collect more samples and hopefully 144 00:06:27,592 --> 00:06:29,133 -talk to you soon. -BEN: Great. 145 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:30,592 Thank you. I look forward to coming out again. 146 00:06:30,758 --> 00:06:31,967 -BRYANT: Thanks, man. -THOMAS: Thank you, Ben. 147 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:33,633 -See you later. -Talk to you soon. 148 00:06:34,633 --> 00:06:37,633 -BRYANT: Wow. -TRAVIS: A dire wolf. 149 00:06:49,342 --> 00:06:50,967 KAELEB: Well, we've got Jan back out, guys. 150 00:06:51,175 --> 00:06:53,383 -ERIK: Hey, Jan. -Hey. Hey, guys. 151 00:06:53,508 --> 00:06:55,425 -Welcome back. -JAN: Thanks for having me back. 152 00:06:55,592 --> 00:06:57,633 TRAVIS: After our meeting with Ben Woodruff, 153 00:06:57,842 --> 00:07:01,383 we welcomed ground-penetrating radar expert Jan Francke 154 00:07:01,550 --> 00:07:03,967 back to help us with another one of our current investigations, 155 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:07,925 between the area known as the triangle and the mesa, 156 00:07:08,008 --> 00:07:11,175 where we've detected a possible underground structure. 157 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:15,967 We had a team come out and do a balloon-based 158 00:07:16,175 --> 00:07:18,050 deep penetrating radar survey. 159 00:07:18,258 --> 00:07:19,883 -Okay. -We also have some 160 00:07:20,008 --> 00:07:22,592 -magnetometer data from a few years ago... -JAN: Yep. 161 00:07:22,717 --> 00:07:24,300 ...that shows magnetic anomalies. 162 00:07:24,508 --> 00:07:25,967 -Okay. -Which suggests 163 00:07:26,175 --> 00:07:29,092 that we're looking at something metallic, 164 00:07:29,217 --> 00:07:31,050 possibly even a tunnel of some kind. 165 00:07:31,175 --> 00:07:32,425 Okay. 166 00:07:33,383 --> 00:07:34,967 TRAVIS: Over the past three years, 167 00:07:35,175 --> 00:07:37,133 we've conducted a magnetometry scan 168 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:40,467 as well as an aerial radar scan in this area, 169 00:07:40,675 --> 00:07:43,842 and both of them identified a possible metal tunnel 170 00:07:44,008 --> 00:07:47,092 running underground between the triangle and the mesa. 171 00:07:47,258 --> 00:07:49,717 So today, Jan is going to use 172 00:07:49,883 --> 00:07:52,467 a special ground-penetrating radar device 173 00:07:52,633 --> 00:07:54,967 to get us more data and help us figure out 174 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:56,342 if that could really be true. 175 00:07:56,508 --> 00:07:59,092 Our ambition is to 176 00:07:59,217 --> 00:08:01,133 do a survey in this area under the triangle. 177 00:08:01,342 --> 00:08:03,092 Absolutely, we can do that. Yes. 178 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:04,967 Well, guys, so, this time I brought 179 00:08:05,092 --> 00:08:06,342 a much deeper penetrating system-- 180 00:08:06,508 --> 00:08:07,717 I've improved it over the last year-- 181 00:08:07,883 --> 00:08:09,467 that will give us a much higher resolution. 182 00:08:09,633 --> 00:08:11,008 Perfect. 183 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:13,633 TRAVIS: Jan is going to scan back and forth 184 00:08:13,842 --> 00:08:16,967 across the area in what's called a push broom pattern. 185 00:08:17,175 --> 00:08:19,258 As he does this, the GPR will send 186 00:08:19,425 --> 00:08:21,050 radio signals into the ground 187 00:08:21,217 --> 00:08:23,175 that bounce off of objects or structures. 188 00:08:23,342 --> 00:08:25,092 If any are detected, 189 00:08:25,175 --> 00:08:27,092 the device will produce an image on 190 00:08:27,258 --> 00:08:28,925 what is known as a radargram. 191 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:33,300 Now, while Jan's GPR is mainly designed to 192 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:35,467 send radio signals into the ground, 193 00:08:35,675 --> 00:08:37,758 some of them will actually go up, 194 00:08:37,842 --> 00:08:40,925 meaning that he could also detect things above him. 195 00:08:41,925 --> 00:08:44,758 That would be a good thing for us because we've documented 196 00:08:44,925 --> 00:08:47,300 a lot of anomalies above the triangle. 197 00:08:47,508 --> 00:08:49,300 So, if anything passes over him, 198 00:08:49,467 --> 00:08:51,508 we might able to image that, as well. 199 00:08:52,467 --> 00:08:53,883 We got another experiment 200 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:55,467 on the other side of the ranch, so we're going to 201 00:08:55,675 --> 00:08:56,883 leave you and Kaleb here at it for a little bit, 202 00:08:57,050 --> 00:08:57,967 and we're gonna head over there. 203 00:08:58,092 --> 00:08:59,133 Sounds good. 204 00:08:59,342 --> 00:09:00,633 TRAVIS: Well, good luck, guys. 205 00:09:02,425 --> 00:09:03,967 -Okay. -JAN: Got it? 206 00:09:04,175 --> 00:09:05,383 All right, 207 00:09:05,592 --> 00:09:07,383 let's start assembling it. 208 00:09:08,842 --> 00:09:12,133 TRAVIS: While Jan and Kaleb were running the GPR scan 209 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:14,092 -at the triangle... -And off we go. 210 00:09:15,133 --> 00:09:17,800 ...Me, Thomas and Dragon went about a half mile over to 211 00:09:18,008 --> 00:09:20,758 the east field to conduct a different experiment 212 00:09:20,925 --> 00:09:22,508 to follow up on something strange 213 00:09:22,675 --> 00:09:24,508 that happened two weeks ago. 214 00:09:25,633 --> 00:09:27,342 Let's put the launch pad right here. 215 00:09:29,842 --> 00:09:33,300 We were conducting a drone-based infrared lidar scan 216 00:09:33,508 --> 00:09:36,383 when Jim Royston suddenly began losing GPS data 217 00:09:36,508 --> 00:09:39,092 at very specific spots above the east field. 218 00:09:39,217 --> 00:09:40,967 -ERIK: Uh-oh. -What happened, Erik? 219 00:09:41,175 --> 00:09:43,133 TRAVIS: Something that we couldn't explain 220 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:46,008 was blocking the GPS signal. 221 00:09:46,175 --> 00:09:48,133 -Let's go launch this thing. -Okay. 222 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:50,133 TRAVIS: So, we've decided to launch 223 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:52,092 rockets equipped with GPS devices 224 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:54,550 up into those same dead spots 225 00:09:54,717 --> 00:09:56,758 to see if we could get repeated data, 226 00:09:56,842 --> 00:09:59,633 or even stimulate some kind of phenomenon, 227 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,592 that might help us figure out what's going on in that area. 228 00:10:02,758 --> 00:10:03,842 (beeps) 229 00:10:04,842 --> 00:10:06,342 THOMAS: Erik, the rocket's armed 230 00:10:06,508 --> 00:10:07,633 and we're ready to launch. 231 00:10:07,842 --> 00:10:10,092 Copy you. Standing by for launch. 232 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:11,592 BRYANT: While we're out in the field, 233 00:10:11,717 --> 00:10:13,633 Erik's going to be in the command center, 234 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,300 watching all of his instrumentation and cameras, 235 00:10:16,467 --> 00:10:18,217 to keep an eye on both parties 236 00:10:18,342 --> 00:10:20,133 while we're out doing this experiment. 237 00:10:21,342 --> 00:10:23,633 We might be able to get to the next spot. 238 00:10:23,842 --> 00:10:25,258 -Okay, whereabouts is it? -It's up over in... 239 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:27,050 -In that thicket there? -It's up over in here. 240 00:10:27,217 --> 00:10:28,800 JAN: All right. 241 00:10:30,175 --> 00:10:33,092 TRAVIS: In five, four, 242 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:35,800 three, two, 243 00:10:35,967 --> 00:10:37,133 one. 244 00:10:43,842 --> 00:10:45,467 -KALEB: Yeah. -JAN: Something's going on 245 00:10:45,633 --> 00:10:47,550 with the signal there, very interesting. 246 00:10:47,675 --> 00:10:51,508 We've got this weird bump above the ground. 247 00:10:51,633 --> 00:10:54,133 -I can't explain that. -KALEB: Uh, yeah. 248 00:10:55,967 --> 00:10:57,967 What the hell? 249 00:10:58,967 --> 00:11:01,175 ERIK (over radio): Hey, Thomas, you copy? 250 00:11:01,342 --> 00:11:03,508 Yeah, Erik. Go ahead. 251 00:11:04,508 --> 00:11:06,425 ERIK: I don't even know how to say this. 252 00:11:07,675 --> 00:11:11,175 I saw the rocket launch straight up in the camera. 253 00:11:12,383 --> 00:11:15,800 But the GPS data went deep into the mesa. 254 00:11:17,675 --> 00:11:20,925 -(Travis laughing) -BRYANT: That's amazing. 255 00:11:25,383 --> 00:11:28,758 straight up in the camera. theh 256 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,967 But the GPS data went northwest. 257 00:11:33,425 --> 00:11:37,467 And raced off into the interior of the mesa. 258 00:11:39,592 --> 00:11:42,633 It never went up from the launch pad. 259 00:11:42,758 --> 00:11:44,300 -Wow. -It turned and went that direction. 260 00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:46,883 TRAVIS: Our latest experiment showed 261 00:11:47,050 --> 00:11:48,842 really weird results from the get-go. 262 00:11:49,008 --> 00:11:52,342 We all saw our first rocket launch 263 00:11:52,508 --> 00:11:54,758 straight up over 1,000 feet in the air. 264 00:11:54,883 --> 00:11:57,300 But according to Erik's GPS receiver 265 00:11:57,467 --> 00:11:59,425 tracking the rocket's path, 266 00:11:59,592 --> 00:12:02,383 it supposedly flew straight into the mesa. 267 00:12:02,550 --> 00:12:05,508 Hey, Erik and Travis, if you guys can hear me. 268 00:12:05,675 --> 00:12:08,758 As Jan and I were dragging his GPR through the triangle, 269 00:12:08,925 --> 00:12:10,467 Jan said about five to ten seconds 270 00:12:10,633 --> 00:12:12,467 after that rocket launch, 271 00:12:12,675 --> 00:12:14,883 that he was getting something interesting above us. 272 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:17,467 TRAVIS: Did you hear what he said? 273 00:12:17,675 --> 00:12:19,258 That radar picked up something 274 00:12:19,425 --> 00:12:21,800 in the air when we launched the rocket. 275 00:12:21,967 --> 00:12:23,217 At the triangle. 276 00:12:23,383 --> 00:12:24,592 KALEB: I am wondering if we did 277 00:12:24,758 --> 00:12:26,175 have some kind of... 278 00:12:26,342 --> 00:12:28,217 interaction or we did get 279 00:12:28,342 --> 00:12:31,092 some kind of reading of something moving above us. 280 00:12:32,883 --> 00:12:34,175 So that's, that's really interesting. 281 00:12:34,342 --> 00:12:35,467 I can't wait to see that data. 282 00:12:35,633 --> 00:12:37,050 We couldn't believe it 283 00:12:37,217 --> 00:12:38,300 when Jan detected something 284 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:40,842 in the air with his GPR device 285 00:12:41,008 --> 00:12:43,633 above the triangle after our first rocket launch. 286 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,508 He was trying to find an underground tunnel, but, 287 00:12:46,675 --> 00:12:48,258 clearly, some of the radio signals 288 00:12:48,383 --> 00:12:50,675 bounced off something over his head. 289 00:12:51,675 --> 00:12:52,758 We are ready to launch the next rocket 290 00:12:52,925 --> 00:12:54,800 with the GPS tracker on it. 291 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:55,925 Are you ready? 292 00:12:56,092 --> 00:12:57,592 ERIK: Standing by for launch. 293 00:12:58,717 --> 00:13:00,675 TRAVIS: We had no idea what it could have been. 294 00:13:00,842 --> 00:13:02,800 So we wanted to launch another rocket 295 00:13:03,008 --> 00:13:05,467 as fast as we could to see if it would happen again. 296 00:13:05,675 --> 00:13:07,967 Hey, Kaleb, be advised 297 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:10,092 that we are gonna launch the rocket 298 00:13:10,258 --> 00:13:12,300 in less than 30 seconds. 299 00:13:12,467 --> 00:13:14,133 Be prepared. 300 00:13:14,258 --> 00:13:15,800 JAN: If we're gonna launch another rocket, 301 00:13:15,925 --> 00:13:18,467 we should stand still and we watch for it, 302 00:13:18,592 --> 00:13:21,467 -and see if we see anything about us. -Okay. 303 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:23,967 Okay, battery is gonna go hot right now. 304 00:13:25,008 --> 00:13:26,550 (beeping) 305 00:13:26,717 --> 00:13:28,967 Preparing to launch in five, 306 00:13:29,133 --> 00:13:31,133 four, three, 307 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:33,550 two, one. 308 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:42,592 What in the hell is going on? 309 00:13:44,217 --> 00:13:47,383 This makes no sense at all! 310 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:49,633 That is not what that rocket did. 311 00:13:50,633 --> 00:13:52,800 I want an explanation for this. 312 00:13:55,175 --> 00:13:57,800 During the rocket launch, the rocket didn't go 313 00:13:58,008 --> 00:13:59,758 straight into the mesa, but what it appeared to do 314 00:13:59,925 --> 00:14:01,883 was to corkscrew on its way up. 315 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:04,467 Um, the altitude that it is reported to have reached 316 00:14:04,592 --> 00:14:07,217 is nowhere near where the rocket actually went. 317 00:14:07,383 --> 00:14:09,800 How is that even possible? 318 00:14:11,758 --> 00:14:13,467 Kaleb, you copy? 319 00:14:13,633 --> 00:14:14,758 KALEB: Yeah. Go ahead, Erik. 320 00:14:15,758 --> 00:14:17,425 Are you still seeing any of that artifact 321 00:14:17,592 --> 00:14:19,300 at 30 to 40 feet? 322 00:14:20,675 --> 00:14:22,592 JAN: Uh, roger that, I am. 323 00:14:22,675 --> 00:14:24,133 Yes, it is definitely there. 324 00:14:24,258 --> 00:14:26,508 And it occurred maybe four or five seconds 325 00:14:26,675 --> 00:14:29,008 -after the launch. -ERIK: Wow. 326 00:14:31,092 --> 00:14:33,633 JAN: We saw the exact same effect. 327 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,883 Five or six seconds after that rocket launched, 328 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:40,258 we see movement at a range of about 40 feet. 329 00:14:40,425 --> 00:14:42,383 I can't explain that at all. 330 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:44,050 I need to process that data, 331 00:14:44,175 --> 00:14:46,383 but that's something of real interest. 332 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:49,300 Well, it's been an eventful day. 333 00:14:49,467 --> 00:14:50,842 Heck yeah, it has. 334 00:14:51,008 --> 00:14:52,633 Sounds like Erik got some interesting data. 335 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,050 I'll be interested to see what the camera looks like. 336 00:14:55,217 --> 00:14:57,383 I-I'd say this is a very successful day. 337 00:14:57,550 --> 00:14:59,175 Yeah, I wo-- I would, I would think so. 338 00:14:59,342 --> 00:15:00,717 I can't wait to see 339 00:15:00,842 --> 00:15:02,675 what Jan got down at the triangle. 340 00:15:02,842 --> 00:15:04,508 I say we pack up, we get back 341 00:15:04,675 --> 00:15:05,842 -to see what he's got. -I agree. 342 00:15:06,008 --> 00:15:08,342 BRYANT: Good job, everybody. 343 00:15:16,717 --> 00:15:18,508 -TRAVIS: Hey, guys. -JAN: Come on in. 344 00:15:18,675 --> 00:15:21,467 ERIK: Before we jump into Jan's data 345 00:15:21,633 --> 00:15:23,050 I want to look at some rocket launch data 346 00:15:23,217 --> 00:15:24,550 with you guys. I want to show you 347 00:15:24,717 --> 00:15:27,258 the GPS data for that first flight. 348 00:15:27,383 --> 00:15:29,050 I'm excited to see what you got. 349 00:15:29,175 --> 00:15:31,675 TRAVIS: The next morning, we couldn't wait to see 350 00:15:31,842 --> 00:15:34,175 if Jan was able to find evidence 351 00:15:34,342 --> 00:15:36,675 of a tunnel underground in the triangle area. 352 00:15:36,842 --> 00:15:39,133 But first, we really wanted to review 353 00:15:39,342 --> 00:15:42,217 the GPS data from our east field rocket launch 354 00:15:42,425 --> 00:15:44,717 when Jan's GPR device 355 00:15:44,883 --> 00:15:46,883 simultaneously detected something 356 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:49,258 above ground at the triangle. 357 00:15:49,425 --> 00:15:52,383 Okay, so, you tell me... 358 00:15:55,050 --> 00:15:56,842 ...what's wrong with this picture? 359 00:15:58,842 --> 00:16:02,092 (laughs) The rocket went straight up to 2,000 feet. 360 00:16:02,258 --> 00:16:03,508 Mm-hmm. 361 00:16:03,675 --> 00:16:06,258 And you see these points over here? 362 00:16:06,342 --> 00:16:08,133 They're inside the mesa. 363 00:16:08,342 --> 00:16:09,758 -Now. -TRAVIS: There they are, look at that. 364 00:16:09,925 --> 00:16:13,133 ERIK: Look exactly where they went in. 365 00:16:13,342 --> 00:16:14,800 TRAVIS: Wow. 366 00:16:14,967 --> 00:16:16,550 THOMAS: That's right where we saw the UAP 367 00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:18,008 last year go into the mesa. 368 00:16:18,175 --> 00:16:21,342 That's a good point. The entry point right there. 369 00:16:21,508 --> 00:16:23,008 Crazy, man. 370 00:16:23,175 --> 00:16:26,508 The GPS data shows this rocket flew straight 371 00:16:26,675 --> 00:16:28,633 at the mesa and directly into a spot 372 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,717 that we call the "in point." 373 00:16:30,883 --> 00:16:33,842 Now that's where we've seen a UAP enter 374 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:36,550 the east field mesa and then exit it 375 00:16:36,717 --> 00:16:38,800 a half a mile away before disappearing 376 00:16:39,008 --> 00:16:40,800 into thin air near the triangle. 377 00:16:41,008 --> 00:16:43,592 We don't know what's causing the GPS errors, 378 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,675 but it is obvious 379 00:16:45,883 --> 00:16:47,967 that something has prevented us from getting 380 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,300 accurate data on Skinwalker Ranch. 381 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:53,592 KALEB: And at the exact same time, Jan was picking up 382 00:16:53,758 --> 00:16:55,883 those radar anomalies. 383 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:57,967 TRAVIS: That's right, Jan had the GPR set up 384 00:16:58,050 --> 00:17:00,592 when we did this launch, and he picked up 385 00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:03,217 uh, something in the sky 386 00:17:03,425 --> 00:17:05,508 that seemed to be 40 feet above him over the triangle. 387 00:17:05,675 --> 00:17:09,175 Yes, exactly, we can actually see that on this data set. 388 00:17:09,342 --> 00:17:11,175 -Yeah, let's take a look. -JAN: Okay. 389 00:17:12,425 --> 00:17:14,133 So, the radar's continuously 390 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,633 running, it's taking readings ten times a second. 391 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,633 Now what is the radar really detecting? 392 00:17:18,758 --> 00:17:20,008 It's detecting changes. 393 00:17:20,175 --> 00:17:21,675 And we're in an open field 394 00:17:21,842 --> 00:17:23,883 and there's no cows or anything else moving. 395 00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:27,842 So if we just stand still and nobody moves, 396 00:17:28,008 --> 00:17:30,300 then there shouldn't be any changes at all. 397 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,008 So, what I want you to do is 398 00:17:32,175 --> 00:17:35,008 take a look at the bottom of the screen, okay? 399 00:17:36,008 --> 00:17:37,633 So here's what's interesting. 400 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,008 The launch happened-- 401 00:17:39,175 --> 00:17:40,467 I happened to get the timestamp off of it-- 402 00:17:40,633 --> 00:17:41,633 right here. 403 00:17:41,758 --> 00:17:43,717 Okay? 404 00:17:43,883 --> 00:17:46,717 About six seconds later, five seconds later, 405 00:17:46,842 --> 00:17:48,842 we have this blip. 406 00:17:50,175 --> 00:17:52,550 It's probably sitting around 40 feet 407 00:17:52,675 --> 00:17:54,508 above the ground. 408 00:17:54,675 --> 00:17:57,508 And that's a very, very strong blip. 409 00:17:57,633 --> 00:18:00,175 Okay, now what does that mean? 410 00:18:00,342 --> 00:18:04,300 Okay, something changed and created an interference. 411 00:18:04,383 --> 00:18:07,467 TRAVIS: So we launched a rocket a mile away from you, 412 00:18:07,633 --> 00:18:10,467 and, uh, you detected some sort 413 00:18:10,633 --> 00:18:12,258 -of anomaly, uh... -JAN: Yeah. 414 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,592 -...happened about 40 feet above you? -JAN: Yeah. 415 00:18:15,758 --> 00:18:17,967 Well, I assure you there was nothing above us, but... 416 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:20,633 -nothing that we could see. -Nothing that you could see, yeah, that's right. 417 00:18:20,842 --> 00:18:21,967 -JAN: Exactly. -ERIK: Right, that's the point. 418 00:18:22,092 --> 00:18:23,800 And I saw that, and I was like, 419 00:18:23,925 --> 00:18:25,883 "What just caused that?" 420 00:18:26,050 --> 00:18:28,258 And it happened twice, if I remember correctly. 421 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:29,467 JAN: That's right. 422 00:18:29,592 --> 00:18:31,467 So here's the interesting part. 423 00:18:31,592 --> 00:18:33,342 Repeatability, right? That's how science works. 424 00:18:33,508 --> 00:18:34,800 Check this out. 425 00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:38,592 So we'll go along in time and it happened... 426 00:18:38,717 --> 00:18:40,383 again. 427 00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:42,217 -Right there. -TRAVIS: Wow, look at that. 428 00:18:42,383 --> 00:18:45,133 JAN: This happened after your second launch. 429 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:48,050 So that means, somehow or other, launching a rocket 430 00:18:48,217 --> 00:18:50,342 in the east canyon field down there, 431 00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,717 somehow at the triangle, 432 00:18:52,925 --> 00:18:56,133 we detect an electromagnetic disturbance. 433 00:18:56,342 --> 00:18:58,633 Well, no, we detect an object. 434 00:18:58,842 --> 00:19:00,842 -We detect an object. That... -JAN: That appears and disappears. 435 00:19:01,008 --> 00:19:03,883 That appears and disappears for just a few seconds. 436 00:19:06,092 --> 00:19:08,050 What on earth is that? 437 00:19:08,217 --> 00:19:10,217 ERIK: Well, now that's a good question 438 00:19:11,175 --> 00:19:13,133 And I've got something to show you that I think 439 00:19:13,342 --> 00:19:14,800 you're gonna find really interesting given 440 00:19:14,925 --> 00:19:17,050 what we already know about this anomaly. 441 00:19:19,508 --> 00:19:21,842 This is a camera that's positioned right on 442 00:19:22,050 --> 00:19:23,508 on the observation point there on the tower, 443 00:19:23,675 --> 00:19:26,133 here in the east field, looking off towards the west, 444 00:19:26,258 --> 00:19:27,925 right there at the triangle. 445 00:19:28,925 --> 00:19:30,050 I want to see if you spot what I spotted 446 00:19:30,217 --> 00:19:31,592 when I played through this. 447 00:19:33,050 --> 00:19:34,592 TRAVIS: Whoa, whoa! Was that it? 448 00:19:34,758 --> 00:19:37,133 That was fast, whatever it was. 449 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:38,467 ERIK: Let me take it back. 450 00:19:38,675 --> 00:19:40,467 Is it just one frame? 451 00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:42,133 Uh, no, there are several frames here. 452 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:44,175 So you'll see it enter 453 00:19:44,383 --> 00:19:47,217 the field of view from the right. 454 00:19:49,092 --> 00:19:51,633 And I'll tell you why I find this interesting. 455 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,175 Okay, we get to this frame. 456 00:19:54,342 --> 00:19:56,758 -(key clicks) -And it's gone. 457 00:19:56,925 --> 00:19:58,133 What? 458 00:19:58,342 --> 00:19:59,300 Yeah. 459 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,217 KALEB: It disappeared right there. 460 00:20:07,508 --> 00:20:08,925 THOMAS: It disappeared right there. 461 00:20:09,092 --> 00:20:11,633 What on earth is that? 462 00:20:13,925 --> 00:20:16,133 THOMAS: So how many frames? 463 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,467 ERIK: Okay. We can count them. 464 00:20:18,675 --> 00:20:20,217 -TRAVIS: One. Uh-huh. -ERIK: So there's your first. 465 00:20:20,383 --> 00:20:22,717 BOTH: Two, three, four, 466 00:20:22,883 --> 00:20:25,592 -ERIK: Five. -What in the world is that? 467 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:28,008 ERIK: You know again, just for added context, 468 00:20:28,175 --> 00:20:30,425 remember, Jan was out there at the triangle. 469 00:20:30,592 --> 00:20:32,925 KALEB: Well, I can point out right where we were standing 470 00:20:33,092 --> 00:20:35,008 right here. 471 00:20:36,008 --> 00:20:37,967 We were right down in here. 472 00:20:38,133 --> 00:20:40,258 ERIK: Wow. 473 00:20:40,383 --> 00:20:41,842 TRAVIS: What phenomenology 474 00:20:42,008 --> 00:20:44,342 could-could suddenly get a rocket trigger 475 00:20:44,508 --> 00:20:46,675 there that you would detect with the radar? 476 00:20:47,925 --> 00:20:49,467 You have no speculation, right? 477 00:20:49,592 --> 00:20:51,008 I have no speculation. 478 00:20:51,175 --> 00:20:54,008 TRAVIS: They say seeing is believing, 479 00:20:54,175 --> 00:20:55,550 but it was totally unbelievable 480 00:20:55,758 --> 00:20:58,508 that just seconds after we launched a rocket 481 00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:00,300 in the east field yesterday, 482 00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:03,508 Jan Francke's radar device detected something 483 00:21:03,675 --> 00:21:06,550 hundreds of yards away above the triangle. 484 00:21:07,758 --> 00:21:09,300 And at that exact same moment, 485 00:21:09,467 --> 00:21:12,467 Erik's surveillance camera captured images of a UAP 486 00:21:12,675 --> 00:21:16,092 coming from the east field and then disappearing 487 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:17,842 right above the triangle. 488 00:21:18,008 --> 00:21:19,592 THOMAS: So look at where it's at, 489 00:21:19,675 --> 00:21:21,383 right there in the middle of the screen, 490 00:21:21,550 --> 00:21:25,383 and if you come straight down that would be exactly 491 00:21:25,550 --> 00:21:28,383 within the bounds of that black hole 492 00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:29,800 in the lidar data. 493 00:21:30,008 --> 00:21:32,092 As soon as you started pointing that out, 494 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:33,592 that's what hit my mind, Thomas, you're right. 495 00:21:33,717 --> 00:21:36,217 It is absolutely right over 496 00:21:36,342 --> 00:21:39,467 where the hole in the lidar data is. 497 00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:43,133 As scientists, Erik and I have to be very careful 498 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:44,467 when analyzing data, 499 00:21:44,675 --> 00:21:47,217 but we couldn't deny what Thomas pointed out. 500 00:21:47,383 --> 00:21:50,675 The UAP disappeared right above the triangle. 501 00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:53,633 This is where we've documented all kinds of strange phenomena 502 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,758 over the past few years. 503 00:21:56,717 --> 00:21:57,800 Oh, we got a malfunction. 504 00:21:57,883 --> 00:21:58,967 Everybody watch out. 505 00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:01,425 Including a mysterious blob 506 00:22:01,592 --> 00:22:03,967 that seemed to cause a rocket to explode. 507 00:22:04,175 --> 00:22:07,217 -What is that red circle? -Whoa. 508 00:22:07,342 --> 00:22:10,258 TRAVIS: Infrared lidar images of a circular ring 509 00:22:10,425 --> 00:22:12,717 with a black void right in the center. 510 00:22:14,092 --> 00:22:16,133 And another doughnut-shaped anomaly 511 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:18,425 that we detected just last week. 512 00:22:18,592 --> 00:22:21,800 Could these things help explain what caused this UAP 513 00:22:22,008 --> 00:22:24,342 to disappear above the triangle yesterday? 514 00:22:24,508 --> 00:22:27,800 And if so, what in the world could they be? 515 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:29,633 BRYANT: It's just more evidence 516 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,133 that there's something above the triangle 517 00:22:31,258 --> 00:22:32,508 and we got to do more work out there. 518 00:22:32,675 --> 00:22:34,050 Yeah, for sure. 519 00:22:34,217 --> 00:22:35,800 ERIK: So, initially, you know, 520 00:22:35,967 --> 00:22:37,717 we were looking for GPR returns 521 00:22:37,883 --> 00:22:41,467 from underground, so, Jan, what are the takeaways? 522 00:22:41,675 --> 00:22:43,842 JAN: So I want to go back and show you some things 523 00:22:44,008 --> 00:22:45,633 that stick out in the radar data. 524 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,633 TRAVIS: After what Jan showed us above the triangle, 525 00:22:49,842 --> 00:22:53,675 we had no idea what to expect from the subsurface scans 526 00:22:53,842 --> 00:22:56,425 he conducted yesterday in the same location 527 00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:59,467 where previous magnetometry and radar surveys 528 00:22:59,675 --> 00:23:03,092 have identified possible voids or even metal tunnels 529 00:23:03,258 --> 00:23:05,342 between the triangle and the mesa. 530 00:23:05,508 --> 00:23:08,925 So just at high level, what are the takeaways? 531 00:23:09,092 --> 00:23:10,258 JAN: When we look at the data 532 00:23:10,425 --> 00:23:12,175 what I want to show you is 533 00:23:12,342 --> 00:23:15,217 we did get some interference right here. 534 00:23:15,425 --> 00:23:17,467 I don't know what that is. 535 00:23:17,633 --> 00:23:20,008 It could be a void, it could be a metal object, 536 00:23:20,175 --> 00:23:21,633 it could be really anything, 537 00:23:21,758 --> 00:23:24,175 but it is different than that surrounding material. 538 00:23:24,342 --> 00:23:25,883 Where is that? 539 00:23:26,050 --> 00:23:29,008 Uh, right-- if you can see the gray marker on the map. 540 00:23:29,217 --> 00:23:30,550 Right about there. 541 00:23:30,675 --> 00:23:32,217 TRAVIS: Oh, wow. 542 00:23:32,383 --> 00:23:35,133 So it's really interesting that the returns you have 543 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,300 seem to kind of point 544 00:23:37,467 --> 00:23:38,842 -in a general area... -Yes, absolutely. 545 00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:40,467 -...right in that location... -Yeah. 546 00:23:40,675 --> 00:23:41,633 TRAVIS: ...where the Lunasonde data point is. 547 00:23:41,842 --> 00:23:43,300 JAN: Yeah. 548 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:44,717 TRAVIS: That there is something giving you a return. 549 00:23:44,842 --> 00:23:46,258 JAN: Something's going on there, absolutely. 550 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:48,967 Wow. 551 00:23:49,133 --> 00:23:50,342 TRAVIS: Repeated data is exactly 552 00:23:50,508 --> 00:23:52,842 what Erik and I look for in our experiments. 553 00:23:53,008 --> 00:23:55,050 So for Jan's GPR survey 554 00:23:55,175 --> 00:23:58,967 to confirm that there could be something strange underground 555 00:23:59,092 --> 00:24:00,633 between the triangle and the mesa, 556 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,842 right where two previous subsurface scans did, too, 557 00:24:04,008 --> 00:24:05,758 is incredible. 558 00:24:05,925 --> 00:24:07,175 The question now is, 559 00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:09,300 what the heck could it be? 560 00:24:09,508 --> 00:24:12,550 We have the rumors that there's an underground base out here. 561 00:24:12,717 --> 00:24:14,633 -I know that. -TRAVIS: But that's just a rumor, 562 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,300 we have no evidence of it-- unless maybe this is 563 00:24:16,425 --> 00:24:17,633 evidence of that. 564 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,967 ERIK: This area, 565 00:24:20,175 --> 00:24:21,675 just to the west of the triangle, 566 00:24:21,883 --> 00:24:24,967 seems to hold secrets that I would love to discover. 567 00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:26,508 Perhaps it's got some relationship 568 00:24:26,675 --> 00:24:28,842 to all of the strange things that we've seen 569 00:24:29,008 --> 00:24:30,717 at surface level. 570 00:24:30,883 --> 00:24:35,092 Yeah, I think that we need to, uh, get our drill out there 571 00:24:35,258 --> 00:24:38,758 and probe it and poke it, and see if we can-- 572 00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:41,258 Get a sample back from it is what we need, whatever it is. 573 00:24:41,425 --> 00:24:43,383 Whether we bring in a geotechnical drill, 574 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:44,925 that we're just doing a core sample down 575 00:24:45,092 --> 00:24:46,342 and seeing if we find something. 576 00:24:46,508 --> 00:24:48,258 I think a core sample would be great. 577 00:24:48,425 --> 00:24:50,342 This is an accessible spot, so... 578 00:24:50,508 --> 00:24:52,133 -TRAVIS: Let's do it. -Yeah. 579 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:53,758 ERIK: Well, Jan, 580 00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:55,592 your work has born more fruit than I was expecting. 581 00:24:55,758 --> 00:24:58,800 Both in the sky, it sounds like, potentially, 582 00:24:59,008 --> 00:25:00,550 as well as in the ground. 583 00:25:00,675 --> 00:25:02,467 So we appreciate you coming out and doing this work, 584 00:25:02,592 --> 00:25:05,050 and we look forward to having you come back to follow up. 585 00:25:05,217 --> 00:25:06,550 -My pleasure, I enjoy being here. -TRAVIS: Yeah, absolutely. 586 00:25:06,758 --> 00:25:08,133 -Yeah. -No, it's-it's great. 587 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,467 Yeah, definitely more work to be done. 588 00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:11,133 -ERIK: Yep. -TRAVIS: Well, thanks, guys. 589 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,258 -Let's get to it. -BRYANT: It is awesome. 590 00:25:12,425 --> 00:25:13,883 JAN: Love it. Thank you. 591 00:25:19,175 --> 00:25:20,800 โ™ช โ™ช 592 00:25:21,967 --> 00:25:23,967 Erik, this is Kaleb. 593 00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:25,800 Letting you know I have Snowshoe 594 00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:28,008 and we are heading to the triangle now. 595 00:25:29,217 --> 00:25:31,758 Copy you, Kaleb, we'll be watching for you. 596 00:25:33,092 --> 00:25:34,758 ERIK: So today, 597 00:25:34,883 --> 00:25:37,133 we're bringing out Jeremy with Snowshoe Engineering 598 00:25:37,342 --> 00:25:38,633 back out on the ranch. He's been here before. 599 00:25:38,842 --> 00:25:41,758 We've identified points where we want Jeremy 600 00:25:41,925 --> 00:25:44,925 to place his rig and take some core samples. 601 00:25:45,133 --> 00:25:47,342 We have the Lunasonde data, 602 00:25:47,508 --> 00:25:49,050 we have Jan's GPR data 603 00:25:49,217 --> 00:25:50,800 or ground-penetrating radar data, 604 00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:53,508 and we have this magnetic survey that was performed. 605 00:25:53,717 --> 00:25:55,425 All of them seeming to indicate 606 00:25:55,550 --> 00:25:57,925 that there's something exceptional 607 00:25:58,050 --> 00:26:00,675 beneath the ground just to the west of the triangle, 608 00:26:00,842 --> 00:26:02,675 and that's where we're drilling today. 609 00:26:03,675 --> 00:26:05,008 You guys ready to do some drilling? 610 00:26:05,175 --> 00:26:06,592 Yep. We are ready. 611 00:26:06,758 --> 00:26:07,592 Yeah. 612 00:26:07,758 --> 00:26:09,008 ERIK: We very well may be 613 00:26:09,175 --> 00:26:11,217 coming into something that is, that is metallic 614 00:26:11,425 --> 00:26:12,675 according to some of the measurements we made. 615 00:26:12,842 --> 00:26:15,508 -Well, we'll know it. Yep. -ERIK: Okay, good. 616 00:26:15,675 --> 00:26:17,133 I understand you can go down about 30 feet 617 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:18,550 with that 8-inch bit. 618 00:26:18,675 --> 00:26:21,258 Yep, yep, that's what we're ready to do today. 619 00:26:21,425 --> 00:26:23,383 As always, you know, 620 00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:26,425 when we seem to do these types of activities, 621 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,467 just make sure you take care of yourselves. 622 00:26:28,675 --> 00:26:31,175 If you feel off physically or anything like that, 623 00:26:31,342 --> 00:26:33,092 that's important. Please let us know. 624 00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,800 There's no egos out here. 625 00:26:35,008 --> 00:26:36,842 We want to make sure that you guys are healthy to do your job. 626 00:26:38,175 --> 00:26:40,633 THOMAS: We inherited a narrative on this ranch, 627 00:26:40,842 --> 00:26:42,508 that bad things happen when you dig. 628 00:26:42,717 --> 00:26:46,467 And while I still can't say whether or not that's true, 629 00:26:46,633 --> 00:26:48,758 I will tell you that I've experienced 630 00:26:48,925 --> 00:26:52,092 a lot of bad things shortly after I've dug on the ranch. 631 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:55,633 I suffered this injury in which 632 00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:58,800 my head became very swollen, 633 00:26:58,925 --> 00:27:02,300 and the thing about this injury is 634 00:27:02,467 --> 00:27:04,217 that it affected me in a way 635 00:27:04,383 --> 00:27:06,342 that the doctors were just baffled. 636 00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,008 It leaves you wondering, 637 00:27:08,175 --> 00:27:10,383 you know, what's taking place here on the ranch 638 00:27:10,508 --> 00:27:12,758 that is causing these physical ailments. 639 00:27:12,967 --> 00:27:14,550 All right, let's do it. 640 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,133 TRAVIS: Let's get rolling! 641 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:18,050 During the drilling operation... 642 00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:21,883 ...Erik will collect GPS data from a tracker 643 00:27:22,050 --> 00:27:23,717 attached to the drill rig. 644 00:27:24,758 --> 00:27:26,800 We'll also be running our high-speed cameras 645 00:27:26,967 --> 00:27:30,133 that record hundreds of images per second to constantly 646 00:27:30,342 --> 00:27:33,467 scan the area above the triangle 647 00:27:33,675 --> 00:27:35,467 and the drill rig for anything strange 648 00:27:35,633 --> 00:27:37,092 we might miss in the moment. 649 00:27:37,258 --> 00:27:38,967 Who knows if all the UAPs 650 00:27:39,175 --> 00:27:42,633 and possible evidence of portals that we've seen 651 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,883 could be connected to something underground? 652 00:27:45,092 --> 00:27:47,133 But, hopefully, today we'll figure that out. 653 00:27:47,258 --> 00:27:48,550 Good? 654 00:27:53,217 --> 00:27:55,342 Hey, guys. Just letting you know, the drill is going. 655 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,050 We are in the ground. 656 00:28:03,008 --> 00:28:04,925 โ™ช โ™ช 657 00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,092 KALEB: I've heard all the stories, too, 658 00:28:08,258 --> 00:28:10,925 that there's underground facilities out here, 659 00:28:11,092 --> 00:28:13,883 there's some kind of alien technology 660 00:28:14,050 --> 00:28:16,758 underneath the triangle area and so... 661 00:28:16,842 --> 00:28:19,300 if there's an actual tunnel or tunnel system 662 00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:20,800 below Skinwalker Ranch, 663 00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:22,967 I think that would be truly validating. 664 00:28:23,175 --> 00:28:25,633 So I'm really interested to see what happens 665 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,592 over the course of drilling. 666 00:28:51,175 --> 00:28:52,633 Hey, guys. 667 00:28:52,842 --> 00:28:54,842 They're hitting a harder substance. 668 00:28:58,342 --> 00:29:00,050 Do you want a core sample? 669 00:29:00,217 --> 00:29:02,633 Yes, Thomas. If we can, uh, get both of them over here, 670 00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:05,258 -we'll take a look at 'em. -Copy that. 671 00:29:07,008 --> 00:29:09,592 โ™ช โ™ช 672 00:29:21,967 --> 00:29:23,133 Hey, buddy. 673 00:29:24,467 --> 00:29:27,800 So kind of weird at the bottom of this one. 674 00:29:28,008 --> 00:29:30,133 There's a hard layer and then a soft layer. 675 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:31,800 THOMAS: Maybe indicating 676 00:29:31,967 --> 00:29:33,925 that we got a water pocket or something under there. 677 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:35,800 Nah... 678 00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:37,467 I don't know what it would be, I mean, 679 00:29:37,675 --> 00:29:39,300 we'll loosen it 680 00:29:39,508 --> 00:29:41,133 -and you can check it out. -Okay. 681 00:29:41,342 --> 00:29:42,967 JEREMY: If you want to pay attention to what's in the shoe, 682 00:29:43,175 --> 00:29:45,217 'cause that's where the weirdness happened. 683 00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:46,675 THOMAS: Okay. 684 00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:49,467 I'll be back. 685 00:29:49,633 --> 00:29:52,508 After being on this ranch for seven years 686 00:29:52,675 --> 00:29:56,925 and hearing countless stories of tunnels and caves 687 00:29:57,050 --> 00:30:00,008 and vast, complex systems underground, 688 00:30:00,175 --> 00:30:01,967 could it be that we're finally punching through 689 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,175 into what's underneath the triangle? 690 00:30:05,842 --> 00:30:07,508 This one may be of interest. 691 00:30:07,717 --> 00:30:09,300 -This is our 30-foot sample. -Okay. 692 00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:11,133 And the reason I say it may be of interest is 693 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:14,967 that when Jeremy handed it to me, he told me 694 00:30:15,175 --> 00:30:17,425 that this is different than what they see 695 00:30:17,592 --> 00:30:18,592 in most of their drilling. 696 00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:19,967 ERIK: Okay. 697 00:30:21,675 --> 00:30:22,633 THOMAS: Here we go. 698 00:30:22,842 --> 00:30:24,508 So if you could see, 699 00:30:24,675 --> 00:30:27,633 solid, solid, solid, and then nothing. 700 00:30:27,717 --> 00:30:30,383 Like they just hit the ceiling of whatever it was, 701 00:30:30,550 --> 00:30:32,633 punched through and, and that was it. 702 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,133 So that would imply a void. 703 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,508 Yes. 704 00:30:36,675 --> 00:30:38,717 ERIK: Interesting. 705 00:30:45,008 --> 00:30:47,217 So that would imply a void? ERIK: 706 00:30:47,383 --> 00:30:48,758 Yes. 707 00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:51,175 Interesting. 708 00:30:51,342 --> 00:30:54,175 Thomas is delivering these core samples 709 00:30:54,342 --> 00:30:57,300 from the drill site in sections to the table. 710 00:30:57,467 --> 00:30:59,925 We're at about 27 feet and... 711 00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:02,467 it appears that there's some kind of opening. 712 00:31:02,633 --> 00:31:04,133 I'm really interested in finding out 713 00:31:04,342 --> 00:31:05,967 how big this void is. 714 00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:08,133 And I can't help wondering, what have we hit here 715 00:31:08,342 --> 00:31:09,717 beneath the triangle? 716 00:31:09,883 --> 00:31:11,675 It's almost like you drove a pipe into a pipe. 717 00:31:11,842 --> 00:31:14,467 -Well, that's interesting. -That's damn interesting. 718 00:31:14,633 --> 00:31:16,383 All right, before we even move that, 719 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:18,758 I want to take a radiation measurement. 720 00:31:20,675 --> 00:31:22,758 โ™ช โ™ช 721 00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:26,925 So far, nothing. 722 00:31:27,842 --> 00:31:29,342 All right, well, I'll tell you what, 723 00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:31,050 -um, I want, I want to bag these samples. -Yeah. 724 00:31:31,217 --> 00:31:32,800 Tell me if I'm wrong, but it makes sense 725 00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:34,258 to just keep punching through 726 00:31:34,425 --> 00:31:35,925 to see how far it goes like that. 727 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:38,550 I think he's got the ability to go another 20 feet. 728 00:31:38,717 --> 00:31:39,967 -I say let's do it. -Okay. 729 00:31:40,175 --> 00:31:41,508 I mean, after all, we are hitting 730 00:31:41,675 --> 00:31:43,133 something interesting right there. 731 00:31:43,342 --> 00:31:44,717 Maybe I'll run over there and tell him to, 732 00:31:44,883 --> 00:31:46,092 if possible, let's go with the same hole. 733 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,967 Understood, yeah, okay. If he's up for it. 734 00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:49,967 I don't know what we've gotten into here, 735 00:31:50,133 --> 00:31:53,633 but we've just begun penetrating 736 00:31:53,758 --> 00:31:57,300 a very different region from everything above. 737 00:31:57,467 --> 00:31:58,675 So, my instincts as a scientist, 738 00:31:58,842 --> 00:32:00,800 if not my impulse, is to keep going. 739 00:32:00,967 --> 00:32:03,300 Let's find out how big this void is. 740 00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:13,633 I'm getting like a really bad metallic... 741 00:32:13,842 --> 00:32:15,592 -Taste? -...taste, are you? 742 00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,342 Or just me? 743 00:32:18,717 --> 00:32:21,800 -No. -Really weird. 744 00:32:21,925 --> 00:32:23,217 Do you feel all right? 745 00:32:23,425 --> 00:32:26,467 I feel fine, it's just like, very metallic-y. 746 00:32:26,633 --> 00:32:28,133 MASON: Well, you know what they say, 747 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,592 -it's a curse to break ground out here. -BRADY: Yeah. 748 00:32:31,758 --> 00:32:34,342 Well, if it gets worse, say something. 749 00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:36,467 ERIK: Well, guys, you're going to be interested in this. 750 00:32:36,592 --> 00:32:39,133 -Yeah? -I just learned from Thomas... 751 00:32:39,342 --> 00:32:43,092 we ran into what is essentially a void. 752 00:32:43,217 --> 00:32:45,592 -Wow. -So I've asked him to keep going, 753 00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:47,300 to just keep on punching through 754 00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:50,008 to see how deep that runs, 'cause that could explain 755 00:32:50,175 --> 00:32:52,800 that point that we saw in the Lunasonde survey 756 00:32:53,008 --> 00:32:55,092 and it could line up with some of what Jan has shown us. 757 00:32:55,175 --> 00:32:56,925 So, while we've got it open, we ought to 758 00:32:57,092 --> 00:32:58,758 just keep punching down through to see what we get. 759 00:32:58,925 --> 00:33:00,092 Sounds like we're in agreement. 760 00:33:00,175 --> 00:33:01,258 -Yeah. -Okay. 761 00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:06,133 Shut it down, shut it down. 762 00:33:07,967 --> 00:33:10,175 While we're ready to start drilling 763 00:33:10,383 --> 00:33:12,967 beyond that 30-foot mark that we were originally at, 764 00:33:13,175 --> 00:33:16,133 I go over to check on them and see if we're ready to get going, 765 00:33:16,342 --> 00:33:18,967 and Brady just told me 766 00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:22,467 that he's got a really strong metallic taste in his mouth. 767 00:33:22,675 --> 00:33:24,758 Come on, we're going. 768 00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:28,342 Hey, guys. Somebody. 769 00:33:28,508 --> 00:33:29,425 Having been on this ranch, 770 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,592 I've experienced that before, 771 00:33:31,717 --> 00:33:34,383 and for me personally it's been accompanied by 772 00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:36,592 some serious health issues, 773 00:33:36,758 --> 00:33:38,800 so I'm really concerned at this point. 774 00:33:39,008 --> 00:33:41,008 So you-- Are you-- Like, are you feeling okay? 775 00:33:41,175 --> 00:33:43,508 No, I feel completely fine, it's just the really, like, 776 00:33:43,717 --> 00:33:45,925 strong metallic taste I have in my mouth. 777 00:33:46,008 --> 00:33:49,217 -Dragon! -I feel completely normal. 778 00:33:49,425 --> 00:33:52,758 -When did you first... -It's been about an hour now. 779 00:33:52,925 --> 00:33:54,050 THOMAS: Oh, shoot. 780 00:33:54,217 --> 00:33:55,592 Hey, guys? 781 00:33:55,758 --> 00:33:57,467 TRAVIS: What's happening, Erik? 782 00:33:57,633 --> 00:33:59,550 -Dragon! -BRYANT: What's going on? 783 00:33:59,675 --> 00:34:01,133 THOMAS: We-we have a safety issue we need to address right now. 784 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,258 -Is something happening? -What's going on? 785 00:34:03,425 --> 00:34:04,508 BRYANT: I don't know. Thomas is just on his way over. 786 00:34:04,675 --> 00:34:06,133 Well, um... He-- Look, he's... 787 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,550 -He's feeling fine. -I feel perfectly fine. 788 00:34:07,717 --> 00:34:09,842 But he's had-- For the last little while, 789 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,967 he's had a really strong metallic taste in his mouth. 790 00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:14,133 ERIK: Oh, oh, whoa, whoa. 791 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,633 -That is a very strong sign of something going on. -Yeah. 792 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,300 ERIK: And have you been right over there 793 00:34:18,425 --> 00:34:20,175 -right next to the rig or on it? -Yeah, I've been running it. 794 00:34:20,342 --> 00:34:21,967 ERIK: Brady, from Snowshoe, 795 00:34:22,175 --> 00:34:24,633 is describing metal taste in his mouth, 796 00:34:24,842 --> 00:34:26,133 and I recognize that right away 797 00:34:26,342 --> 00:34:28,133 as one of the potential symptoms of exposure 798 00:34:28,342 --> 00:34:31,717 to a very high magnetic field, among other things. 799 00:34:31,883 --> 00:34:34,133 Like increased levels of radiation. 800 00:34:34,342 --> 00:34:36,425 I don't know exactly what the cause is, 801 00:34:36,592 --> 00:34:37,925 but this is concerning. 802 00:34:38,092 --> 00:34:39,300 I think we should quit talking about it 803 00:34:39,508 --> 00:34:40,300 and get him off the ranch. 804 00:34:40,508 --> 00:34:41,633 I agree. I agree, I agree. 805 00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:42,592 ERIK: Hey, guys, you want to help me 806 00:34:42,717 --> 00:34:43,633 take some instruments over 807 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,092 and take some local readings? 808 00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:46,592 Maybe we need to go measure the gamma's 809 00:34:46,675 --> 00:34:47,508 -and stuff over there. -All right. 810 00:34:47,675 --> 00:34:48,800 -I agree. -Let's go. 811 00:34:48,967 --> 00:34:50,592 TRAVIS: Now, I don't know if the legend 812 00:34:50,717 --> 00:34:52,300 about bad things happening when you disturb the earth 813 00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:54,217 on Skinwalker Ranch is true or not, 814 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,425 but since Brady was experiencing symptoms 815 00:34:56,592 --> 00:34:58,217 like you'd get with high levels 816 00:34:58,342 --> 00:35:00,467 of electromagnetic radiation exposure, 817 00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:02,883 we wanted to take measurements and readings 818 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:04,967 with our scanning devices to see exactly 819 00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:06,967 what may be coming out of that hole, 820 00:35:07,175 --> 00:35:08,925 and we all wanted to make certain 821 00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:10,217 we weren't in any danger. 822 00:35:10,383 --> 00:35:12,008 Uh... 823 00:35:12,175 --> 00:35:13,758 I'm not getting anything significant on the gamma ray. 824 00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:15,758 No, I'm getting exactly the same reading 825 00:35:15,883 --> 00:35:17,175 as I got over there on our table. 826 00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:19,633 -It's not gamma rays. -ERIK: Okay. So, so, 827 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,633 I don't see anything here to account 828 00:35:20,758 --> 00:35:21,675 for what he is experiencing. 829 00:35:21,842 --> 00:35:23,342 TRAVIS: Me, either. 830 00:35:23,508 --> 00:35:24,883 You know, just because we're not getting anything 831 00:35:25,008 --> 00:35:27,133 with these instruments doesn't necessarily mean 832 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:28,883 that there wasn't something affecting him. 833 00:35:29,092 --> 00:35:31,050 Because it could be, uh, microwaves. 834 00:35:31,175 --> 00:35:32,633 It could be anything. 835 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,300 -240. -Oh, it's going up. 836 00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:36,800 -You got a 240? -Yeah, I just got a 240. 837 00:35:37,008 --> 00:35:39,133 -TRAVIS: It spiked. Mine did, too. -0.3. 0.3. 0.3 right there. 838 00:35:39,258 --> 00:35:42,300 That's the highest reading I've had today. 839 00:35:42,425 --> 00:35:45,175 -So that's two times our normal measurement. -And what are you measuring? 840 00:35:45,342 --> 00:35:46,967 It's a measure of the radiation dose per hour. 841 00:35:47,175 --> 00:35:49,883 So, we're-we're at roughly, uh, 842 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:51,842 500 to 1,000 times below anything dangerous. 843 00:35:52,008 --> 00:35:53,925 Yeah. I can't connect the dots 844 00:35:54,008 --> 00:35:56,633 to a metallic taste in his mouth. 845 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,300 THOMAS: So, if I understand right, 846 00:35:58,508 --> 00:36:00,258 you guys are kind of dead in the water 847 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:01,383 until the driller comes back, so this is gonna sit as is. 848 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:03,050 Yup. 849 00:36:03,258 --> 00:36:04,633 ERIK: Oh, so you can't keep going? 850 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,758 -No. -Yeah, so we need to... 851 00:36:05,925 --> 00:36:07,467 I did not understand that. 852 00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:08,925 I find that interesting, right? 853 00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:12,092 How is it that the one, uh... 854 00:36:12,217 --> 00:36:15,800 weak link in the chain is what got attacked or affected 855 00:36:15,967 --> 00:36:17,175 and can't be here to continue drilling? 856 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,925 The critical link in the chain. 857 00:36:19,092 --> 00:36:20,258 TRAVIS: The critical link is right. Yeah. 858 00:36:20,425 --> 00:36:22,050 ERIK: I'm sure this won't be the last 859 00:36:22,217 --> 00:36:24,133 frustration of its kind on the ranch 860 00:36:24,217 --> 00:36:25,800 when we're doing something like this, 861 00:36:25,967 --> 00:36:27,342 trying to drill into the ground or into the mesa. 862 00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:30,300 I'm not prepared to give up on this location, 863 00:36:30,467 --> 00:36:32,467 but at least for now we're going to have to shut down, 864 00:36:32,675 --> 00:36:35,092 regroup, and figure out how we're gonna go forward. 865 00:36:36,758 --> 00:36:39,008 -I'm starting to taste metal. I'm not kidding. -What? 866 00:36:39,175 --> 00:36:41,133 -I'm not kidding you. -You're tasting metal now, too? 867 00:36:41,258 --> 00:36:42,633 Yeah. I'm not kidding you, I'm-I'm tasting it. 868 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,425 All right, then you need-- You now have to leave. 869 00:36:45,592 --> 00:36:47,050 -Come on. -All right, let's get out of here. 870 00:36:47,258 --> 00:36:49,842 All right, just because of this second one, 871 00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:51,883 I want you guys to load up. 872 00:36:52,092 --> 00:36:53,633 Clear out as quick as you can. 873 00:36:58,425 --> 00:36:59,758 Hey, guys. 874 00:36:59,967 --> 00:37:01,300 ERIK: You're not gonna believe this. 875 00:37:01,508 --> 00:37:03,133 I was standing over there and I start-- no kidding, 876 00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:05,175 I started to taste that metal taste in my mouth. 877 00:37:05,342 --> 00:37:06,508 No kidding. 878 00:37:06,717 --> 00:37:08,175 Well, you're no different than anybody else. 879 00:37:08,342 --> 00:37:09,717 We got to get you out of here. 880 00:37:09,883 --> 00:37:12,092 ERIK: This is bad. 881 00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:17,300 -This is bad. you out o. 882 00:37:17,508 --> 00:37:19,383 It-It's like when you touch your tongue to a battery. 883 00:37:19,508 --> 00:37:21,592 That's the first time I've experienced that, 884 00:37:21,717 --> 00:37:22,800 is standing next to that rig. 885 00:37:22,967 --> 00:37:24,175 Uh, he's the second one, 886 00:37:24,383 --> 00:37:26,092 so we need to get him out of here. 887 00:37:26,258 --> 00:37:27,758 It could be a phenomenology that we never heard of before. 888 00:37:27,925 --> 00:37:29,175 -Right? -Exactly. 889 00:37:29,342 --> 00:37:30,925 Let's go look at that drill rig again. 890 00:37:31,092 --> 00:37:33,175 After drilling into a void, 891 00:37:33,342 --> 00:37:35,175 right where we've detected evidence 892 00:37:35,342 --> 00:37:37,342 of a possible metal tunnel below the triangle, 893 00:37:37,467 --> 00:37:40,342 Erik Bard and driller Brady Davis 894 00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:43,300 suddenly had the sensation of tasting metal in their mouths 895 00:37:43,467 --> 00:37:45,175 and had to be rushed off the property. 896 00:37:45,342 --> 00:37:47,217 We're not sure exactly what caused it, 897 00:37:47,383 --> 00:37:49,133 so Thomas and I needed to see 898 00:37:49,342 --> 00:37:50,508 if we could figure it out. 899 00:37:51,925 --> 00:37:53,467 TRAVIS: Where was Erik standing? 900 00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:54,675 THOMAS: Right here. 901 00:37:55,675 --> 00:37:58,092 Like, it's something in this area right here. 902 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:01,217 Oh. 903 00:38:04,675 --> 00:38:06,592 Uh, put your hand on that. 904 00:38:09,842 --> 00:38:10,800 TRAVIS: Dude. 905 00:38:11,008 --> 00:38:13,050 โ™ช โ™ช 906 00:38:15,508 --> 00:38:17,342 That's crazy, man. 907 00:38:17,508 --> 00:38:19,967 I feel like my sinuses are getting, like, 908 00:38:20,175 --> 00:38:21,800 just like I'm going up in an airplane. 909 00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:24,758 So, I can feel this nerve in my arm 910 00:38:24,883 --> 00:38:26,592 right here, all the way up my arm. 911 00:38:26,758 --> 00:38:28,425 THOMAS: Yeah, I feel it, like-- like my skin's crawling. 912 00:38:28,592 --> 00:38:31,592 This thing's highly electrically charged, is what it is. 913 00:38:33,342 --> 00:38:36,217 This is crazy. As soon as we touched the drill rig, 914 00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:38,800 both Thomas and I felt electric shocks. 915 00:38:39,008 --> 00:38:41,133 It's like grabbing an electric fence, dude. 916 00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:43,300 Then my fingers start tingling. 917 00:38:43,508 --> 00:38:44,675 Yeah. 918 00:38:44,842 --> 00:38:46,133 TRAVIS: So, I got the idea 919 00:38:46,342 --> 00:38:48,300 for a quick experiment with volt meters 920 00:38:48,508 --> 00:38:51,592 to see just how much electricity it was actually conducting. 921 00:38:51,758 --> 00:38:55,383 If we measured anything more than a tiny fraction of a volt, 922 00:38:55,508 --> 00:38:57,633 it would mean that we had drilled into something 923 00:38:57,842 --> 00:39:01,425 very strange under the ground near the triangle. 924 00:39:01,592 --> 00:39:02,717 All right. First touch them together 925 00:39:02,883 --> 00:39:04,300 to make sure they say zero. 926 00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,467 Yep. Now touch the black one to the ground 927 00:39:06,633 --> 00:39:09,258 and the red one to the pole somewhere. 928 00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,258 Oh, yeah, look at that. 929 00:39:15,425 --> 00:39:17,050 Oh, we're getting more than a half a volt 930 00:39:17,175 --> 00:39:19,092 from there to there, easy. 931 00:39:19,217 --> 00:39:20,342 THOMAS: Where's the electricity coming from? 932 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:22,175 Is this putting electricity out? 933 00:39:22,342 --> 00:39:24,717 TRAVIS: No, look at that. 934 00:39:24,883 --> 00:39:26,800 And there is electricity. 935 00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:30,592 There is absolutely electricity built up on this thing. 936 00:39:30,717 --> 00:39:32,258 There shouldn't be any, should there? 937 00:39:32,383 --> 00:39:34,842 No, not that much, not unless he was drilling 938 00:39:35,008 --> 00:39:36,383 into something conductive 939 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:38,217 that had electricity flowing through. 940 00:39:39,342 --> 00:39:41,258 Now, a half a volt of electricity 941 00:39:41,425 --> 00:39:42,758 really isn't that much. 942 00:39:42,883 --> 00:39:44,300 It wouldn't even be enough 943 00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:47,342 to power a laptop computer or a light bulb. 944 00:39:47,508 --> 00:39:49,800 But here's the point: this was at least 945 00:39:50,008 --> 00:39:52,258 ten times more than there should be. 946 00:39:52,425 --> 00:39:55,508 Unless there's something artificial down there. 947 00:39:55,675 --> 00:39:56,842 Is it a tunnel? 948 00:39:57,008 --> 00:39:58,300 Well, we don't know that yet, 949 00:39:58,508 --> 00:40:00,508 and we don't know exactly what caused 950 00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:02,467 Erik and Brady to start tasting metal. 951 00:40:02,675 --> 00:40:05,217 Maybe there really is something to the legend 952 00:40:05,383 --> 00:40:07,925 that bad things happen when you disturb the ground 953 00:40:08,092 --> 00:40:09,383 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 954 00:40:09,508 --> 00:40:12,258 Hopefully, those guys are okay. 955 00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:15,925 All right, well, I'm convinced now it's electrical. 956 00:40:16,092 --> 00:40:17,300 Uh, yeah, I am, too. 957 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:19,592 TRAVIS: Amazing stuff, man. 958 00:40:19,758 --> 00:40:22,175 THOMAS: Yeah, it's crazy for sure. 959 00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:25,467 TRAVIS: We have a lot of data 960 00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:27,633 and high-speed camera video to analyze, 961 00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:30,467 so once we make sure everyone is safe, 962 00:40:30,675 --> 00:40:32,508 we're gonna regroup to see what else 963 00:40:32,675 --> 00:40:34,508 today's experiments will help reveal, 964 00:40:34,675 --> 00:40:37,258 and then we can decide how best to move forward 965 00:40:37,425 --> 00:40:40,675 and figure out just what really is below the triangle. 966 00:40:41,675 --> 00:40:43,050 ERIK: If it turns out that we are 967 00:40:43,217 --> 00:40:44,967 dealing with continuous structures, 968 00:40:45,133 --> 00:40:48,008 anything at all like tunnels, then that does lend credence 969 00:40:48,175 --> 00:40:51,758 to the reports that we've heard of artificial structures, 970 00:40:51,883 --> 00:40:55,300 even things referred to as bases beneath the ranch, 971 00:40:55,425 --> 00:40:58,967 and we are going to have to investigate deeper 972 00:40:59,175 --> 00:41:01,258 what's underground there at the triangle 973 00:41:01,425 --> 00:41:03,133 and perhaps in the east canyon area. 974 00:41:03,342 --> 00:41:05,050 BRANDON: Why do we continue to see 975 00:41:05,175 --> 00:41:08,967 such disturbing events unfold on this piece of property? 976 00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:13,217 What lies in the regions beyond the area of the triangle, 977 00:41:13,342 --> 00:41:15,717 the east field and even the homesteads? 978 00:41:15,883 --> 00:41:18,967 Will we get answers by further exploring 979 00:41:19,175 --> 00:41:21,133 the region of Dry Gulch Creek? 980 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:23,342 Will there be additional evidence 981 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:25,550 of potential dire wolves, 982 00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:29,758 or some other type of strange phenomenon? 983 00:41:30,842 --> 00:41:32,300 Time will tell. 984 00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:35,508 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 73097

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