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People constantly ask me,
what is steampunk?
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It's stories and stuff --
movies, pictures, objects.
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That draws its inspiration
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from the science fiction
of the 19th century.
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Based around a fantasticated
Victoriana.
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Looking back to look forward
again and say, but what if?
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It's not a historical movement;
it's an anachronistic movement.
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You get the fantasy stuff, and
you get the science fiction stuff,
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and it comes together,
and it's made of awesome!
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I would call it the crossroads
of technology and romance.
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There's adventure,
there's excitement.
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You break away from
the prim and the proper
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and the straight and the narrow
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and you end up going
just a little bit wild.
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Things are on fire.
Things are gushing steam.
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Things are powered
by zombies and ether.
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I mean, that's exciting.
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People ask me
why I like steampunk.
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I'm like, "It's fun!"
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I love it when a kid
runs up and goes,
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"Oh my god, this is steampunk!"
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The Society for
Creative Anachronism
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never seemed half
as creative as this.
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People will debate really
what steampunk is.
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People have
different visions of it.
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But trying to distill it down
to something
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that you can tell your mom
is kind of difficult.
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And I think it's been very hard
to explain to people
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that, yeah, steampunk
is political.
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I made the claim in an issue
of Steampunk Magazine
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that steampunk
would save the world.
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I'm a little bit into
blind optimism.
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We're causin' a riot.
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When you walk down the street
in a top hat and spats,
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you are causin' a riot.
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You're makin' a statement.
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{\an8}We're writing a book
{\an8}on steampunk.
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{\an8}So we're getting a group
{\an8}of steampunks together,
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{\an8}along with a futurist
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{\an8}and a cultural historian
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{\an8}to talk about the future
and to talk about
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{\an8}what steampunk can tell us
about the future.
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{\an8}We've got representatives
from all around
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{\an8}the different portions
of steampunk culture,
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{\an8}so everything from literature
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You get to fashion to games to music,
You get you name it.
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And there's a whimsy to it and
there's a play with the past
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that I think can tell us a lot
about how human beings
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think about themselves
in relationship to their past
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and what that takes them
toward their future.
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In the work that I do
in future casting,
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it's looking five, ten,
fifteen years out,
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and so I'm always searching for
different visions of the future,
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and that's one of the things
that I found really interesting
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about steampunk because
steampunk gives you
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a revisionist history
of the past.
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It's recrafting the past,
and that fascinated me.
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We've referred to me as
an embedded cultural historian
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in a sense,
and so in some senses
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I am becoming a part of
this culture increasingly.
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In other senses,
I'm studying it.
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I have questions.
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I have questions
I want answered.
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I am here so that I can build
a better future,
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so that we can build better
technologies for people,
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and I want to learn
from these experts
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to get to, what is the future
that we want?
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And that's not easy.
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In the end, it isn't just about
being fans of steampunk.
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It isn't just about thinking
steampunk's cool.
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I think that we can really learn
something important
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and I think that tonight
we could actually do something
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that's quite important
to think about
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what is the future
that we want to live in?
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And it might take a little bit
of digging,
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but I think we can get there.
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I want to thank you all
before we start.
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Cheers. Thank you so much.
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So just give a sort of
a little overview
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of sort of what you see
as steampunk
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but then, more importantly,
how did you come to it?
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{\an8}It just connects with so many
{\an8}different things that I love.
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{\an8}Like everyone else
{\an8}at this table,
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{\an8}I love things that are beautiful
{\an8}and beautifully made.
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I love things that are both
functional and ornamental
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and I love the creativity
and the imagination
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that go into a lot of the things
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that people in the steampunk
community do.
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{\an8}Steampunk is an odd
{\an8}recursive coining
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{\an8}that echoes cyberpunk.
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{\an8}Certainly ever since cyberpunk,
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{\an8}there's been a kind of,
{\an8}I would say,
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{\an8}a sort of parlor game
{\an8}among geeks,
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{\an8}which is, you know, X punk,
{\an8}Y punk, anything punk.
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{\an8}It's nostalgic cyberpunk.
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{\an8}That's like super interesting.
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{\an8}It's science fiction unshackled
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{\an8}from all that tedious
{\an8}reality stuff.
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{\an8}It is retro futurism.
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{\an8}It is the science fiction of
{\an8}the future that never happened.
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{\an8}It's full of grand
{\an8}and glorious stylish people
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{\an8}doing beautiful, hand-tooled
{\an8}stuff with technology.
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{\an8}Imagine the Victorians
{\an8}flying to the moon
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{\an8}in a hot air balloon.
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{\an8}People want to get into things
{\an8}which will have history,
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{\an8}that have stories that are
{\an8}unique and personal,
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{\an8}and steampunk is all about that,
{\an8}and you can do it
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{\an8}not only with the clothes
{\an8}that you're wearing
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{\an8}but with the ideas that are
{\an8}in your head.
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And people usually get
pretty excited about it.
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It's a fun thought experiment.
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When the Victorians were writing
this sort of material,
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they were like,
"Oh, this is great!
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"Let's build a gun big enough
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"to shoot a bullet at the moon!"
You know?
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And it's like, sure,
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and you know what it's
gonna get there? Paste.
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But you don't have to deal
with that in steampunk.
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It has more of a sense of fun,
and people like that.
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When it comes to steampunk,
the appeal is so much broader.
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It's about 50 - 50 men and women,
and you see people of all ages.
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{\an8}I found science fiction
{\an8}very early on as a kid
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{\an8}by watching television shows
{\an8}like Star Trek.
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{\an8}The idea of mashing up
{\an8}science fiction and robots
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{\an8}with this Wild West aesthetic
{\an8}just blew my mind.
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{\an8}And I love the rivets
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{\an8}and I love the gears
{\an8}and I love the steel
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{\an8}and I actually get kinda
{\an8}kinky about that stuff.
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{\an8}I grew up reading books like
{\an8}James Gurney's Dinotopia,
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{\an8}which is a fantastic example
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{\an8}of just a beautifully
{\an8}designed world
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{\an8}that embraces science fiction
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{\an8}and embraces
{\an8}the Victorian setting.
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The actual movement,
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I probably started to pay
attention to it around 2004,
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and at first I had a
very heavy disdain for it
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because, um, as I summed it up:
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"It was just robots
with top hats."
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And I think I had already
become tired of the tropes
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that I would later associate
with steampunk.
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But then I met like-minded
artists and craftspeople
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and I realized that the only way
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that subculture is going
to improve
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would be if we
participated in it.
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{\an8}We did Burning Man in 2008
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{\an8}and we discovered this
{\an8}whole steampunk thing.
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{\an8}I come upon this Victorian
{\an8}house on wheels
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{\an8}and this entire camp of people
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{\an8}dressed up like they came
{\an8}out of the 1890s,
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{\an8}and it just seemed like
{\an8}a nice transition
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{\an8}from one subculture
{\an8}to another subculture.
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{\an8}My husband was into
{\an8}neo-Victorian things and goth,
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{\an8}and I was a little bit into it.
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{\an8}I was mostly a huge
{\an8}science fiction fan.
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So I started wearing steampunk
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to general science fiction
conventions,
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and people would come up and go,
"Oh, is that steampunk?
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I've heard of this.
This is cool!"
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{\an8}Probably since the early '80s,
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{\an8}I've been wearing
{\an8}bowler hats and vests,
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{\an8}and I've been making models of
{\an8}airships and things like that,
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{\an8}but it wasn't until
{\an8}a few years back
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{\an8}that I went to my first con
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and they had a big
steampunk theme,
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and I thought, I like this,
you know,
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and it's right up my alley,
and, oh, look, it's got a name.
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{\an8}We started a comic
{\an8}quite a long time ago now,
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{\an8}and we called it
{\an8}"gaslamp fantasy"
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{\an8}because we felt that
{\an8}we didn't quite fit the mold
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{\an8}of what was out there
{\an8}being called steampunk.
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So it was already in full swing
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by the time we found out about
the whole subculture part of it,
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and it was a really cool
surprise.
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Somebody said to me,
"Oh, well, you should really
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look into steampunk,
'cause I think you'd really
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like the aesthetic."
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{\an8}So I started hunting around
{\an8}on the Internet,
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{\an8}and it was a really wonderful
{\an8}environment to share
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{\an8}and we started talking about
{\an8}what would happen
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{\an8}if this became a subculture,
{\an8}hypothetically?
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{\an8}I actually started
{\an8}Steampunk Magazine
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{\an8}in, essentially,
{\an8}a cultural vacuum.
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{\an8}I was only aware of steampunk
{\an8}in this very periphery way.
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{\an8}And what I found right away was
{\an8}that there was actually already
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{\an8}a small and growing community
{\an8}around steampunk.
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{\an8}To me, the fun part
{\an8}was the punk part.
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{\an8}I like the idea of taking
{\an8}history and just twisting it.
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{\an8}It has a pleasingly
{\an8}counterculture aspect to it,
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{\an8}but it's not the kind of
{\an8}angry, antagonistic
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{\an8}kind of counterculture
{\an8}which you often see
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{\an8}in the original punk movements.
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{\an8}We can do this ourselves.
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{\an8}We don't need this
{\an8}handed down to us.
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{\an8}You know, the government
{\an8}or culture, you know, writ large
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{\an8}has nothing for us.
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{\an8}We can go out and find it
{\an8}ourselves.
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{\an8}You find a lot of artists
{\an8}in the movement:
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{\an8}writers, musicians, makers...
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{\an8}What might bring all of these
{\an8}people together, I think,
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{\an8}is a sense of theatricality
{\an8}and of wanting to live
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{\an8}in a reality that's slightly
{\an8}different.
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If you were the kid who took
the light bulb out of your lamp,
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wet your finger, and stuck it in
just to see what would happen,
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that kid's gonna go grow up to
be a steampunk, if they survive.
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{\an8}We're not steampunks 'cause
{\an8}there's something wrong with us.
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{\an8}We're steampunks 'cause
{\an8}our brains are exploding
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{\an8}from this plastic world
{\an8}we've been put in.
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{\an8}That's why we're breakin' out.
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{\an8}It's not because there's
{\an8}something wrong with us.
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{\an8}It's because we need to be more.
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{\an8}That was definitely
{\an8}my gate to steampunk
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{\an8}was the literary genre.
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{\an8}I think a lot of things
{\an8}came later
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{\an8}as it started to grow and expand
{\an8}and include more things
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{\an8}or be expressed in more venues.
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{\an8}But for me it was that literary
{\an8}gate that brought me in.
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{\an5}I'd picked up the novel
{\an5}Infernal Devices by K.W. Jeter,
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{\an8}and at the time
{\an8}it just struck me as
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{\an8}here's a kind of alt history
{\an8}version of science fiction.
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There was this
half-satirical windup
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by the author in Locus magazine
saying,
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"Hey, why don't we call this
steampunk?
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Then we might get more attention
for it."
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And, of course, it didn't really
work out for him that way.
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The attention came
30 years later.
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{\an8}It was an exciting time
{\an8}in science fiction.
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{\an8}In the '80s, there was a lot
{\an8}of new stuff going on.
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{\an8}And I was a punk rocker
{\an8}in the early '80s,
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{\an8}and so I tended to gravitate
{\an8}actually more towards cyberpunk.
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{\an8}So I think the first
{\an8}steampunk book
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{\an8}that I ever read was
{\an8}The Difference Engine.
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{\an8}I was working in a bookstore when
{\an8}The Difference Engine came out.
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{\an8}The cyberpunk novels
{\an8}were very big.
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{\an8}William Gibson
{\an8}and Bruce Sterling
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{\an8}were great towering giants
{\an8}of the field,
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{\an8}and within the mainstream
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{\an8}of hardcore science fiction
{\an8}readers,
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{\an8}all of a sudden everyone knew
{\an8}what steampunk was.
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{\an8}One of the things
{\an8}that most affected
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{\an8}writers of my generation
{\an8}was the appearance
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{\an8}of the word processor
{\an8}on the scene.
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{\an8}So, you know, I had
{\an8}many discussions,
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{\an8}especially with William Gibson,
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{\an8}about what it was that this new
{\an8}form of composition was doing
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{\an8}to the way words appeared
{\an8}on the page.
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{\an8}In the world of
{\an8}The Difference Engine,
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{\an8}scientists and engineers are
{\an8}at the very peak of society.
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So we wrote this book,
Difference Engine,
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which was really a kind of study
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of the effect of
computation on society,
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taking the effects of the world
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that we were seeing around
ourselves in the 1980s
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and back-projecting them
to an imaginary 1850s.
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It's a radical restructuring
of history.
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We were trying to use the kind
of cultural density of the past
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to make it clear
to contemporary people
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what the stakes were
of an industrial revolution.
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When I started thinking about
Boneshaker,
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I grew up in the Southeast,
where, let's be honest,
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alternate theories
of the Civil War
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are kind of a regional pastime.
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{\an8}And I went to the
{\an8}University of Tennessee
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{\an8}for my graduate school work
{\an8}in Chattanooga,
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{\an8}and you can go through
{\an8}the old patent archives
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and find crazy, crazy
patent submissions
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for machines that people
wanted to make,
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and they were the most steampunk
things I had ever seen,
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and I thought "I would
love to use these..."
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... except they never happened,
because they ran out of war.
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So it started there.
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I'm like, well, what if
they didn't run out of war?
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Steampunk didn't seem
to have a mythology
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to account for all
of the minor tropes of it.
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It was kind of a collection
of things that people wore.
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And I tried to make technology
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that was symptomatic
of the place
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because I didn't want it
to be gears on hats.
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I wanted these people
to have things
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that were going to be
practical to them
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in a very strange environment.
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{\an8}Certainly I didn't set out
{\an8}to write steampunk,
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{\an8}but then I think probably
{\an8}most people don't.
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{\an8}The fact that Perdido Street
{\an8}Station came out in 2000
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{\an8}and was based around a world
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{\an8}that had a very roughly
{\an8}Victorian-era technology
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{\an8}is probably one of the things
{\an8}that means
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{\an8}that it is put in that box, and
{\an8}I have no problem about that.
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You know, your fiction does
stuff that you intend it to do,
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that you don't intend it to do
behind your back.
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It does stuff differently
for every single reader.
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If somebody decides
this book pushed me
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into this field of steampunk
that I absolutely love,
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then how can that be anything
other than very flattering?
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I started writing this book,
and I thought,
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oh, I kind of want to write
an urban fantasy,
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but I really want something
set historically.
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I'm more comfortable writing
in the past.
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{\an8}And as I started to imagine
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{\an8}how Victorians and Victorian
{\an8}scientists would react
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{\an8}to real supernatural creatures
{\an8}in their time period,
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{\an8}I started coming up with
{\an8}this alternative science,
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and it was while I was
world building
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that I realized the books
I was writing
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were going to be
steampunk books.
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And in my world, the steampunk
element is the result
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of the incorporation
of a supernatural element.
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So all of the laws
of my universe
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have to be explained using
Victorian science.
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{\an8}Boilerplate is a robot
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{\an8}who was invented in 1893.
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{\an8}"For the purpose of preventing
{\an8}the deaths of men
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{\an8}"in the conflict of nations."
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Because Archie Campion
has this idea
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that he can prevent humans
from dying in battle.
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And then unveils them
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at the Chicago
World's Fair in 1893.
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Archie takes Boilerplate
all over the world
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to demonstrate him.
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He goes to the Klondike
in the gold rush in Alaska.
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He's a beat cop in Chicago.
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He builds railroads
across the Sudan in Africa.
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He's involved in the
Philippine War.
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He fights in the Boxer Rebellion
in China.
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He's in Australia
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at the birth of the Australian
Commonwealth.
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Yes, the robot gets around.
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But it's all logistically
possible.
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{\an8}Boilerplate has been my gateway
{\an8}drug for steampunk for people.
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{\an8}Like, if they're like,
{\an8}"I don't like it.
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{\an8}"It's just goggles and it's
{\an8}just, you know, gears."
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And I just pull it
off the shelf and I go,
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"Just browse through this
for, like, 10 minutes."
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And they're immediately
sucked in
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because it's so based
and grounded in something
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that they can understand.
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And that's how I conceived
Boilerplate,
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as really an excuse to share
historical stories
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that I thought were
really important
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that people should know about
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and that were relevant
to what's going on today.
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History builds humanity.
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Part of what makes us human
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is the stories that we tell
ourselves.
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The future and the past
were more interesting places
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for me to escape to
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because I lived in the
contemporary world.
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That was boring.
I wanted to be transported.
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I realized that the Victorian
era is the birth of modernity.
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From the large things like
airplanes and telephones
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to the everyday things
we take for granted.
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You go back to the late 1800s,
we have mass media...
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Food safety legislation...
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Various people demanding
their rights
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that hadn't been demanding
their rights previously.
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Women having the right
to vote.
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Concerns about what technology
was going to do to us.
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The eight-hour day.
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And I felt that was very
important to share with people.
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History has some of the richest
and most exciting
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and most absorbing stories,
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and you can mine them
as a storyteller
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and swing them and sway them
and take battles
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and rewrite them and put them
into space.
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I mean, there's so many things
you can do if you know history.
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{\an8}And there's so many
{\an8}things back then
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{\an8}around the world
{\an8}that are way cooler
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{\an8}than anything we come
{\an8}up with in steampunk,
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{\an8}and so it's really neat to just
{\an8}look at the technology back then
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{\an8}and build upon it, look at the
{\an8}costuming around the world
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{\an8}back then and build upon it.
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We're able to pull music
and voices and images
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and all sorts of things out of
an increasingly deep past,
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and we take it for granted.
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If you do nothing else,
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go and sit with your
grandparents and say, you know,
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"Hey, tell me about
World War 2."
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I sat down on the couch
with my dad,
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who was in the Korean War,
and I was like,
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"Tell me a little bit about
what you were doing there."
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And he told me
this story of testing
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these huge sort of
skyrail trains,
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and his job was
to crash them.
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There's a scene in Blameless
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where these huge skyrail
steam-powered trains show up,
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and they're stolen directly
from his stories.
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And so we're kind of combing
the Victorians
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to see the things that we like
and the things that still work.
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And use this as kind of
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our artist's palette
from which we draw.
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{\an8}It forces you to look back
{\an8}in order to look forward.
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{\an8}When you are capable of seeing
{\an8}that connection,
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{\an8}then you kind of like see the
{\an8}threads and how to unravel them
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{\an8}in order to kind of
{\an8}rethread them
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{\an8}so that we can create something
{\an8}better for the future.
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It creates the past that tells
the story of who we want to be.
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When I started off
designing clothes,
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I'd never heard of steampunk.
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I actually got into doing
clothing
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because I'm fascinated
by storytelling and narrative
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as a way of understanding
human psychology.
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{\an8}I'll just costume
{\an8}myself at home
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{\an8}because it improves my enjoyment
{\an8}of whatever I'm doing.
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{\an8}I change clothes to sew stuff,
{\an8}I change clothes to cook eggs.
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00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,711
And I think it's what I really
enjoy about the steampunk scene
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00:17:19,778 --> 00:17:22,013
is that it's, everyone's so
interested in telling stories.
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If you had known steampunk
30-odd years ago,
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00:17:25,851 --> 00:17:27,819
you would've seen that
it would be in my future
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00:17:27,886 --> 00:17:30,889
because I was always fascinated
by BBC costume dramas.
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00:17:30,956 --> 00:17:32,658
Even if I didn't understand
what was going on,
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I could just
watch those dresses.
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00:17:34,526 --> 00:17:36,261
I remember one of my first
Halloween costumes
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was turning a hula hoop
into a hoop skirt.
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00:17:38,096 --> 00:17:39,431
It didn't exactly work,
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00:17:39,498 --> 00:17:41,132
but, uh, that was one of
the first things I did.
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At the start of it, I don't
think people really thought
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it was much of a movement.
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00:17:44,269 --> 00:17:45,504
It seemed just like period
cosplay.
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00:17:45,571 --> 00:17:48,740
Cosplay is short for
costume play.
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It's an important part of the
culture of comics conventions
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and it's become an activity
quite fantastically unto itself.
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As an artist, you start out
imitating somebody.
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00:18:02,087 --> 00:18:06,191
So cosplayers, I'm sure,
began making costumes
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00:18:06,257 --> 00:18:10,095
based on their favorite movie,
literary character, TV show.
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00:18:10,161 --> 00:18:13,499
But at some point you want to go
beyond the out of the box,
425
00:18:13,565 --> 00:18:15,434
and I think that's
much more satisfying:
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00:18:15,501 --> 00:18:18,203
"Oh, I'm tired of Star Wars.
I'm gonna try this instead."
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00:18:18,269 --> 00:18:20,105
Which is not to say
that we don't want people
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to dress up as Boilerplate
in the future,
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00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,709
because we totally do.
430
00:18:23,775 --> 00:18:25,176
It actually surprises me
431
00:18:25,243 --> 00:18:27,413
how many people who I would
consider introverts
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00:18:27,446 --> 00:18:29,415
or really shy
actually feel comfortable
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00:18:29,415 --> 00:18:31,049
coming out and wearing costumes.
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00:18:31,116 --> 00:18:33,419
I think in a way you're not
presenting yourself,
435
00:18:33,485 --> 00:18:37,088
and so I'll find people who are
normally so quiet and so shy
436
00:18:37,155 --> 00:18:40,726
just become exuberant when they
put themselves behind a mask
437
00:18:40,792 --> 00:18:43,729
and can kinda wear
that new identity.
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00:18:43,795 --> 00:18:45,931
{\an8}I was really just
{\an8}t-shirt and jeans
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00:18:45,997 --> 00:18:47,933
{\an8}unless I had to wear something,
{\an8}like going to work
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{\an8}and I had to dress up
{\an8}and, God forbid, wear a tie.
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00:18:51,069 --> 00:18:53,705
When steampunk came along,
it was like, I get to dress up
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00:18:53,772 --> 00:18:56,442
and I get to wear really fancy
clothes all the time.
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00:18:56,475 --> 00:18:58,844
So this coat I had made
specifically
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as my Airship Ambassador coat
and my uniform.
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00:19:02,213 --> 00:19:05,350
So I'll wear that when
I'm kind of in that role.
446
00:19:05,451 --> 00:19:09,054
My first big steampunk costume
that I made
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00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,457
was the khaki gown that I have.
448
00:19:11,523 --> 00:19:13,024
Originally, it was
a volcanologist
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00:19:13,091 --> 00:19:15,727
just because I really liked
volcanoes,
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00:19:15,794 --> 00:19:18,196
but I also absolutely love
ancient Egypt
451
00:19:18,263 --> 00:19:19,998
and Victorian Egyptomania.
452
00:19:20,065 --> 00:19:22,934
That's when it became sort of
a mummy hunting costume.
453
00:19:23,001 --> 00:19:25,036
And so it was very much
that same idea
454
00:19:25,103 --> 00:19:26,705
of taking something I love
455
00:19:26,772 --> 00:19:28,774
and finding a way to twist it
into a character
456
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,942
and a more badass version
of myself.
457
00:19:31,009 --> 00:19:33,912
{\an8}The two things I wanted to be
{\an8}when I was growing up
458
00:19:33,979 --> 00:19:36,214
{\an8}were an astronaut
{\an8}and an inventor.
459
00:19:36,281 --> 00:19:37,849
{\an8}And I have, like, Trapper Keepers
460
00:19:37,916 --> 00:19:40,519
{\an8}filled with, like, illustrated
{\an8}inventions that I made,
461
00:19:40,586 --> 00:19:42,554
{\an8}and I had, I mean,
462
00:19:42,621 --> 00:19:45,724
{\an8}just delightfully ridiculous
{\an8}kid inventions.
463
00:19:45,991 --> 00:19:49,260
And, in particular, I designed
a flying costume.
464
00:19:49,327 --> 00:19:51,663
It was a suit made out of
ripstop parachute nylon
465
00:19:51,730 --> 00:19:53,031
that was flameproof.
466
00:19:53,098 --> 00:19:55,100
It had copper tubes
that ran through it
467
00:19:55,166 --> 00:19:57,168
that you could attach
propane torches to
468
00:19:57,235 --> 00:19:59,505
which would inflate the hot air
inside the suit
469
00:19:59,538 --> 00:20:01,139
that would make you
neutrally buoyant
470
00:20:01,206 --> 00:20:03,509
so you would lift up
with the suit and the wings
471
00:20:03,542 --> 00:20:05,844
and then you could glide
back down.
472
00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,813
And I hadn't made the connection
until my parents came in
473
00:20:07,879 --> 00:20:09,615
and said, "Oh, you finally made
your flying suit."
474
00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:11,149
Being able to say
475
00:20:11,216 --> 00:20:13,218
you're the hero of your own
life, of your own story,
476
00:20:13,284 --> 00:20:16,054
and so I will take this one
thing I've always aspired to do
477
00:20:16,121 --> 00:20:19,424
and make a costume around it,
is pretty great.
478
00:20:19,491 --> 00:20:22,561
And then it's just fun to
filter that through Victoriana.
479
00:20:22,628 --> 00:20:25,931
{\an8}When I discovered that
{\an8}I could do steampunk costuming,
480
00:20:26,197 --> 00:20:27,966
{\an8}people would come up to me
{\an8}and say, "What's that from?"
481
00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,936
And I could say,
"That's from my imagination."
482
00:20:31,002 --> 00:20:33,171
And they'd go,
"You can do that?"
483
00:20:33,238 --> 00:20:36,241
And it was infectious,
it was lovely.
484
00:20:36,307 --> 00:20:38,276
Every chance I could
wear a costume,
485
00:20:38,343 --> 00:20:39,745
I wore a costume as a kid
486
00:20:39,811 --> 00:20:42,080
because I'm a clown
all the time.
487
00:20:42,147 --> 00:20:47,653
{\an8}The idea of being able to dress
{\an8}in the style and be a goon,
488
00:20:47,719 --> 00:20:52,991
{\an8}play a character, I'm free,
{\an8}free to do as I see fit.
489
00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:56,662
I was a Civil War reenactor
when I was 16-17.
490
00:20:56,728 --> 00:20:58,463
It's part of how
I got into history.
491
00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:00,198
So some of my steampunk clothes
492
00:21:00,265 --> 00:21:03,068
are actually my Civil War
reenactment uniform.
493
00:21:03,134 --> 00:21:05,871
I've worn waistcoats and a
pocket watch for years, right?
494
00:21:05,937 --> 00:21:07,238
I've just all of a sudden found
495
00:21:07,305 --> 00:21:09,074
a whole bunch of
other people who do that.
496
00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:10,441
{\an8}Believe this or not,
{\an8}this is essentially
497
00:21:10,508 --> 00:21:11,843
{\an8}most of my everyday clothes.
498
00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,411
{\an8}I looked at that
{\an8}time period and thought,
499
00:21:13,478 --> 00:21:15,113
{\an8}"That is nice, good and proper."
500
00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:17,015
{\an8}In a way, for me it was
{\an8}kind of my rebellion
501
00:21:17,082 --> 00:21:19,718
{\an8}against the, like, "You must
{\an8}show more and more skin,"
502
00:21:19,785 --> 00:21:21,820
{\an8}and I was like,
{\an8}"No, I don't want to."
503
00:21:22,087 --> 00:21:23,755
{\an8}And I thought,
{\an8}"Well, I'll just go back
504
00:21:23,822 --> 00:21:26,091
{\an8}to that period of modesty."
505
00:21:26,157 --> 00:21:29,327
{\an8}When I stepped really into the
{\an8}steampunk style as a costumer,
506
00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:31,096
{\an8}I left my edges unfinished
507
00:21:31,362 --> 00:21:34,099
{\an8}and I started trying to play
{\an8}with torn fabric.
508
00:21:34,365 --> 00:21:37,202
The function turns inside out,
so that you see the function
509
00:21:37,268 --> 00:21:38,970
and the form side by side.
510
00:21:39,037 --> 00:21:42,273
Here is a previous corset
that I have made.
511
00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,210
The idea is that it has this
busk that buckles up the front
512
00:21:45,276 --> 00:21:47,378
and then you lace it closed
in the back.
513
00:21:47,445 --> 00:21:50,281
You could probably take a bullet
in a well-made corset.
514
00:21:50,348 --> 00:21:53,218
It'd just have to be a very
specifically-aimed bullet.
515
00:21:53,584 --> 00:21:56,387
{\an8}Goggles are sort of --
{\an8}have become sort of the symbol
516
00:21:56,454 --> 00:21:58,089
{\an8}of steampunk for
{\an8}a lot of people.
517
00:21:58,156 --> 00:22:00,659
Do you know the steampunk
salute, sir?
518
00:22:00,726 --> 00:22:02,427
Nice goggles.
519
00:22:04,162 --> 00:22:06,231
When somebody is ready to spend
520
00:22:06,297 --> 00:22:09,967
what I charge for these,
they're in.
521
00:22:11,536 --> 00:22:13,438
It's kind of a badge
of belonging in a way,
522
00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:17,075
and I enjoy watching people
make that transition, too.
523
00:22:17,142 --> 00:22:18,877
When you put something on
524
00:22:18,944 --> 00:22:21,847
that makes you feel really good
about yourself,
525
00:22:21,913 --> 00:22:24,015
you are good,
you are better.
526
00:22:24,082 --> 00:22:26,551
I wanna make people feel so good
about themselves
527
00:22:26,652 --> 00:22:28,654
because of what they're wearing,
because it was made for them,
528
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,956
it fits them, they can have
that confidence
529
00:22:31,022 --> 00:22:34,192
to step out into the world
and be better people.
530
00:22:34,259 --> 00:22:37,362
What I'm hoping costuming
will go towards
531
00:22:37,428 --> 00:22:39,765
is being able to make
our own clothes again,
532
00:22:39,831 --> 00:22:41,833
make clothes that fit us
533
00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,202
rather than we have to fit
the clothes,
534
00:22:44,269 --> 00:22:46,104
and having it last,
535
00:22:46,171 --> 00:22:49,507
which will totally put
textile workers
536
00:22:49,574 --> 00:22:52,010
out of jobs, but...
537
00:22:52,477 --> 00:22:53,679
In this day-to-day world
538
00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:56,848
where everything is ready-made,
we frequently feel inferior
539
00:22:56,915 --> 00:22:58,516
because,
"Oh, our clothes don't fit,"
540
00:22:58,583 --> 00:23:01,452
and, "Oh, it's not quite right,"
and "It must be my fault."
541
00:23:01,719 --> 00:23:04,222
But I really feel strongly
that it's my fault
542
00:23:04,289 --> 00:23:06,491
as a designer
if the clothes don't fit.
543
00:23:06,557 --> 00:23:07,959
So my purpose here on Earth
544
00:23:08,026 --> 00:23:11,129
is to make people feel better
about themselves
545
00:23:11,196 --> 00:23:13,231
through the clothes
that I make for them.
546
00:23:13,498 --> 00:23:16,001
{\an8}I've been into, you know,
{\an8}frilly costumes
547
00:23:16,067 --> 00:23:18,003
{\an8}since I was a tiny child.
548
00:23:18,069 --> 00:23:22,473
{\an8}And when I was a teenager,
{\an8}I got into goth fashion
549
00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:24,275
{\an8}and I wore corsets
550
00:23:24,542 --> 00:23:27,012
and did a lot of different
styles within goth,
551
00:23:27,078 --> 00:23:30,048
but the new Victoriana
was definitely a thing.
552
00:23:35,186 --> 00:23:37,522
The dress-up aesthetic
definitely appeals to me
553
00:23:37,588 --> 00:23:40,291
and also science fiction
has always appealed to me
554
00:23:40,358 --> 00:23:41,500
since I was really little.
555
00:23:42,627 --> 00:23:44,763
This song is called
"The Heroine."
556
00:23:51,602 --> 00:23:53,638
My name is Erica Griffin Mulkey.
557
00:23:53,739 --> 00:23:55,774
I perform as Unwoman.
558
00:23:58,576 --> 00:24:01,847
* The city is war-torn
559
00:24:01,913 --> 00:24:04,783
* And nearly impassable
560
00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:07,318
* I act the lovelorn
561
00:24:07,385 --> 00:24:09,755
With steampunk, I can be
in a corset and tons of makeup
562
00:24:09,755 --> 00:24:12,290
and have ridiculous
huge hats on.
563
00:24:12,357 --> 00:24:15,794
It's extremely empowering,
and I just rock it.
564
00:24:15,861 --> 00:24:17,996
It just makes me bigger
than life.
565
00:24:18,063 --> 00:24:20,498
* Now it's closing night *
566
00:24:20,565 --> 00:24:23,802
* And you can't be found *
567
00:24:23,869 --> 00:24:29,307
* Go through the motions
again and again *
568
00:24:29,374 --> 00:24:35,180
* But you are not here
to see them *
569
00:24:35,246 --> 00:24:37,916
I didn't think of myself
as a steampunk performer
570
00:24:37,983 --> 00:24:41,286
until 2009, which is when Jordan
from Sepiachord
571
00:24:41,352 --> 00:24:44,055
had me come up and play
the first Steamcon.
572
00:24:44,122 --> 00:24:47,425
* ...actually feel them
573
00:24:49,995 --> 00:24:51,596
{\an8}With Sepiachord talking
{\an8}about music, my idea was
574
00:24:51,662 --> 00:24:54,299
{\an8}I didn't want culture
{\an8}handed down to me anymore.
575
00:24:54,365 --> 00:24:57,803
{\an8}I wanted to give it back
{\an8}and give it out.
576
00:24:57,869 --> 00:25:00,205
And it went so well
and I fit in so well,
577
00:25:00,271 --> 00:25:02,240
it became a thing that I pursued
and I started writing
578
00:25:02,307 --> 00:25:05,476
to other conventions and saying,
"Hey, I want to play for you.
579
00:25:05,543 --> 00:25:07,245
"I think people will like me."
580
00:25:07,312 --> 00:25:10,816
And I've turned that into,
you know, my job.
581
00:25:10,882 --> 00:25:13,819
* That was my best poker face
582
00:25:13,819 --> 00:25:16,021
* Trying not to care
583
00:25:16,087 --> 00:25:18,623
* I watch and I wait
584
00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:22,527
* While you never appear
585
00:25:27,899 --> 00:25:31,202
{\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
{\an8}to the Abney Park show.
586
00:25:34,005 --> 00:25:36,041
{\an8}Steampunk I discovered in 2008,
587
00:25:36,107 --> 00:25:39,244
{\an8}when I saw Abney Park
{\an8}in concert for the first time.
588
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:40,879
If anybody's heard of
steampunk at all,
589
00:25:40,946 --> 00:25:42,613
they will have heard
of Abney Park.
590
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,282
* I made my own machine
591
00:25:44,349 --> 00:25:46,084
* Yes, we're building steam *
592
00:25:46,151 --> 00:25:49,187
* I hate the same routine
593
00:25:49,454 --> 00:25:50,889
I love playing with Abney Park.
594
00:25:50,956 --> 00:25:53,324
They put on a fantastic live
show. They're full of energy.
595
00:25:53,591 --> 00:25:56,527
{\an8}We've got a new album that's
{\an8}coming out in about a month,
596
00:25:56,594 --> 00:25:58,263
{\an8}and that's our 11th album.
597
00:25:58,329 --> 00:26:00,465
{\an8}We've been doing it
{\an8}for 22 years.
598
00:26:00,731 --> 00:26:03,969
* 'Cause I'm a Victorian
vigilante *
599
00:26:04,035 --> 00:26:06,204
* Bring some justice
on your head *
600
00:26:06,271 --> 00:26:08,206
* From the palace
to the riverside *
601
00:26:08,273 --> 00:26:09,908
* For your troubles
you'll get bled *
602
00:26:09,975 --> 00:26:12,143
I don't want to write the same
song over and over again.
603
00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:14,545
I don't want to write the
same album over and over again.
604
00:26:14,612 --> 00:26:16,114
* Here we come, on the run
605
00:26:16,181 --> 00:26:18,083
* Our coal fires are burning
606
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:20,085
* Here we come, fife and drum
607
00:26:20,151 --> 00:26:22,020
* Propellers in the dawn
608
00:26:22,087 --> 00:26:24,122
* Here we come, on the run
609
00:26:24,189 --> 00:26:26,124
* Our coal fires are burning
610
00:26:26,191 --> 00:26:28,059
* Here we come, fife and drum
611
00:26:28,126 --> 00:26:31,329
* Under the radar, we crept on
612
00:26:31,596 --> 00:26:33,364
{\an8}Abney Park takes place
{\an8}within its own world
613
00:26:33,431 --> 00:26:35,433
{\an8}outside of the context
{\an8}of history.
614
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,368
To continue to look back
into history
615
00:26:37,435 --> 00:26:39,905
and then pull that stuff
into what we're doing,
616
00:26:39,938 --> 00:26:42,640
I think that's the fun
exploration.
617
00:26:48,679 --> 00:26:52,017
I do have some parameters about
what makes music steampunk,
618
00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:53,651
but it's pretty wide open.
619
00:26:53,718 --> 00:26:57,555
I feel like almost every genre
of music can be steampunk
620
00:26:57,622 --> 00:26:59,757
if there are elements
of the old and the new.
621
00:26:59,824 --> 00:27:01,359
I don't necessarily want to say
622
00:27:01,426 --> 00:27:04,262
that an indie rock band that
throws a cello in is steampunk,
623
00:27:04,329 --> 00:27:06,197
although I'll probably play
in your band if you ask me to.
624
00:27:06,264 --> 00:27:08,266
When I first started thinking
about what is steampunk music,
625
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,101
I thought, "probably music
that's of the era
626
00:27:10,168 --> 00:27:11,336
"that's also innovative,
627
00:27:11,402 --> 00:27:13,438
"and in that regard,
not of the era."
628
00:27:13,504 --> 00:27:15,206
Like neo-cabaret,
one might say.
629
00:27:15,273 --> 00:27:17,475
I would love to see more bands
630
00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:21,412
working with historical sounds
and music and styles.
631
00:27:21,479 --> 00:27:24,415
And I think that's where...
I find that more charming
632
00:27:24,482 --> 00:27:26,851
when the punking is less
in the style of music
633
00:27:26,952 --> 00:27:28,453
and more in the lyrics.
634
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,856
* The city is war-torn
635
00:27:31,957 --> 00:27:34,993
* And nearly impassable
636
00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:38,596
* I act the lovelorn
637
00:27:38,663 --> 00:27:44,502
* I used to be laughable *
638
00:28:00,685 --> 00:28:01,852
When you're dealing with
the Victorians
639
00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:03,221
and their optimism
for the future
640
00:28:03,288 --> 00:28:04,722
and their excitement
for the future,
641
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:06,724
they didn't mean for everybody,
they meant for us,
642
00:28:06,791 --> 00:28:08,059
for us right now,
643
00:28:08,126 --> 00:28:09,760
and we're not really
paying attention
644
00:28:09,827 --> 00:28:12,430
to all those little people over
there doing those little things.
645
00:28:12,697 --> 00:28:15,233
{\an8}I am not a Victorian
{\an8}re-creationalist.
646
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,168
{\an8}I am... I'm a steampunk.
647
00:28:17,235 --> 00:28:20,005
{\an8}I think that the
{\an8}19th century was bollocks.
648
00:28:20,305 --> 00:28:23,300
Victorian London, as, you know,
full of beautiful, clanking machines,
649
00:28:23,308 --> 00:28:25,510
was built on systems of massive
650
00:28:25,576 --> 00:28:28,179
and brutal exploitation
around the world.
651
00:28:28,446 --> 00:28:30,481
There was not a lot of beauty
in Victorian England.
652
00:28:30,548 --> 00:28:32,283
I mean, we see
the beautiful things
653
00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:34,085
because they're some of
the things that survived,
654
00:28:34,152 --> 00:28:36,321
but there was also
a lot of poverty
655
00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:39,324
and horrible living conditions
and unpleasant parts.
656
00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:41,126
People were intolerant of gays.
657
00:28:41,192 --> 00:28:42,793
People were sexist.
658
00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:44,062
People were racist.
659
00:28:44,129 --> 00:28:45,530
There was rampant colonialism.
660
00:28:45,596 --> 00:28:48,033
There was abuse of the workforce.
661
00:28:48,734 --> 00:28:51,302
{\an8}It was awful. There is something
{\an8}frankly quite troublesome
662
00:28:51,369 --> 00:28:54,572
{\an8}about the fact that
{\an8}what is being eulogized here,
663
00:28:54,639 --> 00:28:58,043
{\an8}in a sometimes very winning
{\an8}and very wonderful way,
664
00:28:58,109 --> 00:29:00,945
{\an8}is an era of bestial oppression.
665
00:29:01,046 --> 00:29:03,648
{\an8}I would say that steampunk needs to look
{\an8}at itself in the mirror a little bit.
666
00:29:04,014 --> 00:29:06,651
{\an8}My first hints that
{\an8}steampunk as it existed
667
00:29:06,717 --> 00:29:08,753
{\an8}might not be for me
{\an8}was when I put out a call
668
00:29:08,819 --> 00:29:11,056
for contributions
to Steampunk Magazine
669
00:29:11,122 --> 00:29:13,358
looking for pro-feminist
anti-colonial work.
670
00:29:13,424 --> 00:29:15,726
One of the best comments,
"best comments" I found
671
00:29:15,793 --> 00:29:19,164
was someone saying, "How can you
call yourself steampunk
672
00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:20,765
"and be anti-colonial?"
673
00:29:20,831 --> 00:29:24,369
And this, of course, to me, it was,
uh, it caught me by surprise.
674
00:29:24,435 --> 00:29:26,737
You know, as I say it,
I looked around
675
00:29:26,804 --> 00:29:29,107
and was like, "Aw man,
am I in the right room?"
676
00:29:29,174 --> 00:29:33,678
{\an8}I was put on a steampunk panel,
677
00:29:33,744 --> 00:29:39,384
{\an8}which made me wonder
{\an8}why I didn't like steampunk,
678
00:29:39,450 --> 00:29:42,620
{\an8}what's wrong with steampunk,
{\an8}because I should.
679
00:29:42,887 --> 00:29:46,891
Most of what I saw
currently as steampunk
680
00:29:46,957 --> 00:29:50,395
seemed really colonialist.
681
00:29:50,661 --> 00:29:52,497
{\an8}Yeah, it's a form of escapism,
682
00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:55,866
{\an8}but we still carry with us
{\an8}kind of like ideas
683
00:29:55,933 --> 00:29:59,537
{\an8}and prejudices and stereotypes
{\an8}from a larger culture.
684
00:29:59,604 --> 00:30:01,772
Now, if you depict
a fantasticated version
685
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:05,543
of a society, and you write out
the relations of oppression
686
00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:08,313
and what... you know,
something is going on there
687
00:30:08,379 --> 00:30:09,814
in just the same way
as it would
688
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,649
if you wrote a utopia
about white South Africa
689
00:30:11,716 --> 00:30:13,884
in which there were no black
people during the '80s.
690
00:30:13,951 --> 00:30:16,187
You're doing something
whether or not you intend to.
691
00:30:16,254 --> 00:30:17,922
Immediately when
you think adventure,
692
00:30:17,988 --> 00:30:21,459
I'm just thinking of those
people in the pith helmets.
693
00:30:24,395 --> 00:30:26,264
{\an8}Pith helmets are
{\an8}obviously imagery
694
00:30:26,331 --> 00:30:29,700
{\an8}from British occupation
{\an8}and the Zulu wars.
695
00:30:29,767 --> 00:30:32,737
There was oppression,
there was bigotry,
696
00:30:32,803 --> 00:30:35,540
but that's a story
for another time.
697
00:30:35,606 --> 00:30:37,942
We're reinventing history
and making it fun and positive.
698
00:30:38,008 --> 00:30:41,212
That's not what I think of
when I think of positive.
699
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:42,647
I'm sorry.
700
00:30:42,713 --> 00:30:45,383
I have a totally different
perspective on that one.
701
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:46,851
There's so many options
out there
702
00:30:46,917 --> 00:30:49,420
that don't draw from
that painful imagery.
703
00:30:49,487 --> 00:30:51,422
I feel like these things
can be reclaimed,
704
00:30:51,489 --> 00:30:53,358
but I don't necessarily think
it's my place
705
00:30:53,424 --> 00:30:55,726
as a privileged white woman
to reclaim them.
706
00:30:55,893 --> 00:30:57,995
So I actually haven't worn
my pith helmet in a while.
707
00:30:58,062 --> 00:31:01,098
I've switched over to... I have
a National Park Ranger hat.
708
00:31:01,366 --> 00:31:03,701
{\an8}It's really kind of difficult
{\an8}sometimes to get people
709
00:31:03,768 --> 00:31:06,437
{\an8}out of that comfort zone
{\an8}and say, "Okay, let's talk
710
00:31:06,504 --> 00:31:08,839
{\an8}about the social ramifications
{\an8}of what you're doing,
711
00:31:08,906 --> 00:31:11,542
{\an8}or the political ramifications,
{\an8}or what you're saying
712
00:31:11,609 --> 00:31:14,545
{\an8}about gender when you do
{\an8}what you do."
713
00:31:14,812 --> 00:31:16,281
A lot of people would look at me
and go,
714
00:31:16,347 --> 00:31:18,583
"You're crazy. This is fantasy.
This is fun."
715
00:31:18,649 --> 00:31:21,386
And I think that unfortunate
disconnect from reality
716
00:31:21,452 --> 00:31:24,021
is what kills a lot
of really interesting
717
00:31:24,088 --> 00:31:25,756
and exciting artistic movements.
718
00:31:26,023 --> 00:31:27,892
A lot of people think
that it's total killjoy
719
00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:31,529
for people to go around
pointing people out
720
00:31:31,596 --> 00:31:33,298
and saying that things
are offensive,
721
00:31:33,364 --> 00:31:36,701
but if it means more people
join this subculture
722
00:31:36,767 --> 00:31:38,936
and feel more comfortable
and welcome,
723
00:31:39,003 --> 00:31:40,571
because it's still
724
00:31:40,638 --> 00:31:43,741
very middle-class white
Western subculture.
725
00:31:43,808 --> 00:31:47,878
What I want to urge people to do
is look at the globe
726
00:31:47,945 --> 00:31:51,482
and look at all the
opportunities for stories
727
00:31:51,549 --> 00:31:56,421
there are outside
of this tiny island.
728
00:31:56,487 --> 00:31:58,789
As a reader who loves cool stuff
729
00:31:58,856 --> 00:32:01,592
and who is, frankly, kind of
tired of steam engines
730
00:32:01,659 --> 00:32:04,329
but very open to being
reenchanted by them,
731
00:32:04,395 --> 00:32:06,564
I love the idea of seeing
queer steampunk,
732
00:32:06,631 --> 00:32:09,467
steampunk of color,
anti-imperialist steampunk,
733
00:32:09,534 --> 00:32:12,237
altermondialiste steampunk,
feminist steampunk,
734
00:32:12,237 --> 00:32:14,405
you know, surrealist steampunk,
735
00:32:14,472 --> 00:32:17,742
avant-garde steampunk, you know,
punk punk steampunk.
736
00:32:17,808 --> 00:32:18,743
Bring it the fuck on.
737
00:32:19,109 --> 00:32:20,245
Going to steampunk
is kind of like
738
00:32:20,311 --> 00:32:23,348
pressing a reset button
on that era.
739
00:32:23,414 --> 00:32:25,450
It's like,
"Can we reset this era
740
00:32:25,516 --> 00:32:27,752
"so that we don't
have these problems?"
741
00:32:27,818 --> 00:32:29,987
What if things had
gone differently?
742
00:32:30,254 --> 00:32:31,756
{\an8}They're looking back
{\an8}at the past and saying,
743
00:32:31,822 --> 00:32:33,824
{\an8}"Yeah, a lot of these really
{\an8}horrible things happened,
744
00:32:33,891 --> 00:32:35,460
{\an8}"but here's some
{\an8}really cool things,
745
00:32:35,526 --> 00:32:37,295
{\an8}"and that if they had gone
{\an8}in this direction,
746
00:32:37,362 --> 00:32:39,497
{\an8}"if they had moved over
{\an8}here and gone that way,
747
00:32:39,564 --> 00:32:41,366
{\an8}"then wow, what could it
{\an8}have been?"
748
00:32:41,432 --> 00:32:42,867
{\an8}Well, it could've been this.
749
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,135
{\an8}That's about genres
{\an8}and subgenres growing up.
750
00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:46,269
{\an8}That's good stuff.
751
00:32:47,772 --> 00:32:50,174
As you map the cultural
activity,
752
00:32:50,275 --> 00:32:53,944
so you map the amount of stuff
that's being produced,
753
00:32:54,011 --> 00:32:55,613
the amount of steampunk stuff,
754
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,783
so TV, and games, and comics,
755
00:32:58,849 --> 00:33:02,687
and fashion, and music
and all of this stuff,
756
00:33:02,753 --> 00:33:06,791
there has been an incredible
spike in cultural activity
757
00:33:06,857 --> 00:33:08,293
around steampunk.
758
00:33:08,293 --> 00:33:11,629
So what is it about steampunk
759
00:33:11,696 --> 00:33:15,165
that has ignited all of this
cultural activity?
760
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,035
{\an8}What does steampunk
{\an8}tell us about today?
761
00:33:18,102 --> 00:33:21,205
{\an8}If you have more people
{\an8}who are interested in it, why?
762
00:33:21,506 --> 00:33:22,807
{\an8}In the second half
{\an8}of the 20th century,
763
00:33:22,873 --> 00:33:24,742
{\an8}there were national movements:
{\an8}in the '50s, beatniks;
764
00:33:24,809 --> 00:33:26,677
{\an8}in the '60s, hippies;
{\an8}in the '70s, punks;
765
00:33:26,744 --> 00:33:28,613
{\an8}in the '80s, hip-hop; and then
{\an8}with the rise of the Internet
766
00:33:28,679 --> 00:33:30,114
{\an8}and corporatization of media,
767
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,216
{\an8}that dissipated
{\an8}like a fractal pattern.
768
00:33:32,317 --> 00:33:33,551
After a generation or so
769
00:33:33,618 --> 00:33:35,653
of not having a cohesive
movement like that,
770
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,422
I think people are really hungry
771
00:33:37,488 --> 00:33:40,325
for some kind of tribe
to come together:
772
00:33:40,358 --> 00:33:42,092
aesthetic, music, fashion.
773
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,194
{\an8}What we're seeing right now
{\an8}with steampunk
774
00:33:44,329 --> 00:33:45,596
{\an8}is something similar
{\an8}to what we saw
775
00:33:45,663 --> 00:33:48,633
{\an8}in the late '50s
{\an8}with the Beat Generation
776
00:33:48,699 --> 00:33:51,001
{\an8}or that we saw in the late '60s
{\an8}with the hippie movement
777
00:33:51,068 --> 00:33:54,539
{\an8}is all of a sudden we've got
{\an8}the Summer of Love.
778
00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:56,140
All of a sudden,
it's becoming cool.
779
00:33:56,206 --> 00:33:59,444
And what that does is it creates
a shitload of people
780
00:33:59,510 --> 00:34:02,913
walking around with goggles
on their top hats
781
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:05,416
and calling themselves
steampunk.
782
00:34:05,483 --> 00:34:07,618
And the people who were
at the core of this,
783
00:34:07,685 --> 00:34:09,053
who are at the core of this,
784
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,389
who have a strong
ideological commitment
785
00:34:11,456 --> 00:34:12,857
to this idea of changing
the narrative,
786
00:34:12,923 --> 00:34:15,426
of changing the world,
are going, "Wait a minute!"
787
00:34:15,493 --> 00:34:17,362
But what happens
as a part of that process
788
00:34:17,395 --> 00:34:19,229
is you actually do get
cultural change.
789
00:34:19,364 --> 00:34:22,733
And this is why I really like it
is it's not a literary movement
790
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,735
or a film movement,
and it actually is
791
00:34:24,802 --> 00:34:27,037
a broader cultural movement,
and you don't have to read
792
00:34:27,104 --> 00:34:29,674
The Difference Engine
to know what steampunk is.
793
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,943
{\an8}Do we try to keep this
{\an8}a small, little, private thing
794
00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:36,581
{\an8}just for us to savor,
{\an8}or do we get annoyed
795
00:34:36,647 --> 00:34:40,184
{\an8}when big mainstream things
{\an8}try to take over steampunk?
796
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:43,087
For myself, I don't really mind.
797
00:34:43,153 --> 00:34:45,590
I don't like steampunk
because it's elusive.
798
00:34:45,656 --> 00:34:47,458
I like steampunk
because I like steampunk.
799
00:34:47,525 --> 00:34:49,960
And if big mainstream people
want to attempt it,
800
00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:51,396
go for it; that's great.
801
00:34:51,396 --> 00:34:52,697
They'll either
do a good job of it
802
00:34:52,763 --> 00:34:54,231
or they'll do a crappy job
of it.
803
00:34:54,298 --> 00:34:56,601
If they do a crappy job of it,
we'll ignore it,
804
00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:58,736
like when Justin Bieber
did his music video.
805
00:34:58,803 --> 00:35:00,405
The only way that
that music video
806
00:35:00,405 --> 00:35:03,408
affected my life was having
to discuss that music video.
807
00:35:03,474 --> 00:35:05,510
People who just want to do it
for a fad, they're going to
808
00:35:05,576 --> 00:35:07,412
patronize all these lovely
people in there.
809
00:35:07,478 --> 00:35:09,146
These people are going
to make money off that.
810
00:35:09,213 --> 00:35:10,448
That's great, you know?
811
00:35:10,515 --> 00:35:11,949
They're good artists.
812
00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:14,419
They're good artists;
they make good things.
813
00:35:14,419 --> 00:35:15,753
{\an8}If their stuff sells more
{\an8}because a bunch
814
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:17,488
{\an8}of douchey people want
{\an8}to come in and buy it,
815
00:35:17,555 --> 00:35:19,323
{\an8}by god, knock yourself out.
816
00:35:19,424 --> 00:35:22,827
Look at the album art
inside of T-Pain's new album,
817
00:35:22,893 --> 00:35:25,996
and you'll see a picture of
T-Pain dressed exactly like me,
818
00:35:26,063 --> 00:35:28,132
with a microphone
just like my microphone,
819
00:35:28,198 --> 00:35:30,501
and literally,
it's his steampunk album.
820
00:35:30,568 --> 00:35:32,236
On the one hand,
I'm thinking, like,
821
00:35:32,302 --> 00:35:35,039
"Oh! All these uninvited people
have come to my party!"
822
00:35:35,105 --> 00:35:37,608
What the hell are you doing
here? Go away!"
823
00:35:37,675 --> 00:35:39,877
But on the other hand,
if someone co-opting
824
00:35:39,944 --> 00:35:42,146
the fashion style
brings them to this place
825
00:35:42,212 --> 00:35:48,052
of looking into the cultural
and sociological parts of it,
826
00:35:48,118 --> 00:35:50,621
that's not necessarily
a bad thing.
827
00:35:50,688 --> 00:35:53,458
I remember people saying to me,
"Well, as soon as you see
828
00:35:53,458 --> 00:35:55,593
the steampunk styles
in Hot Topic,
829
00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:57,227
then you know it's over."
830
00:35:57,294 --> 00:35:58,863
Okay, well, guess what?
831
00:35:58,929 --> 00:36:01,666
They're in Hot Topic and they're
in the L.L. Bean catalog
832
00:36:01,732 --> 00:36:03,367
and they're in all these
other places,
833
00:36:03,468 --> 00:36:05,135
but it's not just the clothes.
834
00:36:05,202 --> 00:36:07,304
You know, it never was
just the clothes.
835
00:36:07,371 --> 00:36:09,574
Just like with punk rock,
it wasn't just the clothes.
836
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,141
It was the attitude.
837
00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:13,878
{\an8}It's still possible to write
838
00:36:13,944 --> 00:36:17,815
{\an8}alternate histories
{\an8}which demonstrate
839
00:36:17,882 --> 00:36:21,819
{\an8}technologically-driven
{\an8}social change.
840
00:36:22,086 --> 00:36:24,689
{\an8}Just because Justin Bieber
{\an8}did a steampunk music video
841
00:36:24,755 --> 00:36:26,624
{\an8}does not mean that
{\an8}we have jumped the shark.
842
00:36:26,691 --> 00:36:27,958
{\an8}It means we're
{\an8}just getting started.
843
00:36:28,325 --> 00:36:30,695
It's not a trend
that will have its day
844
00:36:30,761 --> 00:36:32,329
and then fall out of favor.
845
00:36:32,396 --> 00:36:33,964
It is a movement
which will grow
846
00:36:34,031 --> 00:36:36,066
into an actual
physical community.
847
00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:39,303
Maybe ten years from now
we won't recognize
848
00:36:39,369 --> 00:36:42,239
that it's steampunk anymore,
but the ideas and the attitudes
849
00:36:42,306 --> 00:36:45,676
will just pervade the world, and
that's what I'm hopeful about.
850
00:36:45,743 --> 00:36:47,077
I don't think...
Are we gonna have
851
00:36:47,144 --> 00:36:49,246
a steampunk candidate
for president?
852
00:36:49,313 --> 00:36:50,848
Probably not.
853
00:36:50,915 --> 00:36:53,951
Would the steampunk candidate
be Republican or Democrat?
854
00:36:54,018 --> 00:36:57,121
No, it would be
the Steampunk Party.
855
00:36:57,187 --> 00:36:58,956
Yeah, but what would they
be more aligned with?
856
00:36:59,023 --> 00:37:00,224
What do you think?
857
00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:01,759
I don't know.
858
00:37:01,826 --> 00:37:03,093
I think within geek culture,
859
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,695
we are often our own
worst enemies,
860
00:37:04,762 --> 00:37:06,531
because we love
the stuff we love
861
00:37:06,531 --> 00:37:08,933
and we love the stuff so much
that we want to keep doing it.
862
00:37:08,999 --> 00:37:10,768
And inevitably,
that degrades it.
863
00:37:10,835 --> 00:37:14,404
Steampunk, as with any
subcultural trope
864
00:37:14,539 --> 00:37:16,006
that becomes trendy,
865
00:37:16,073 --> 00:37:18,208
it gets harder and harder to do
interesting things with it.
866
00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:20,545
It's not impossible,
but the bar is high.
867
00:37:20,611 --> 00:37:23,581
And just like I think the bar
these days should be very high
868
00:37:23,648 --> 00:37:25,182
for zombies and vampires,
869
00:37:25,249 --> 00:37:27,885
I think the bar should be
extremely fucking high
870
00:37:27,952 --> 00:37:30,320
if you're doing
steam engines and gears.
871
00:37:30,387 --> 00:37:32,957
A lot more people are coming
into things like steampunk
872
00:37:33,023 --> 00:37:36,160
through the mainstream,
one could say appropriation
873
00:37:36,226 --> 00:37:39,296
or one could say trickle down
or whatever of steampunk,
874
00:37:39,363 --> 00:37:41,566
primarily as an aesthetic
and not as a philosophy
875
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:43,100
or a politics or a way of life.
876
00:37:43,167 --> 00:37:45,102
But instead of turning up
our noses at people
877
00:37:45,169 --> 00:37:48,005
who buy their coat at Hot Topic,
I think we can say,
878
00:37:48,072 --> 00:37:50,107
"Oh, that's cool that
you're interested in this.
879
00:37:50,174 --> 00:37:53,143
"Are you also interested
in the real element of this?"
880
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:56,113
Now, imagine the '80s TV movie
where, you know,
881
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:58,148
the kid is all of a sudden,
like, getting into
882
00:37:58,215 --> 00:37:59,984
Dungeons & Dragons,
and then all of a sudden
883
00:38:00,050 --> 00:38:02,887
the crazy Satanist anarchists
come out of the corner
884
00:38:02,953 --> 00:38:05,189
and say, "Hey, kid,
why don't you try, you know,
885
00:38:05,255 --> 00:38:08,727
"being queer and overthrowing
the government?"
886
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,175
Somebody else has said
that, you know,
887
00:38:25,242 --> 00:38:27,077
"Making is the religion
of steampunk."
888
00:38:27,144 --> 00:38:30,815
I kind of like the maker aspect
of contemporary steampunk.
889
00:38:30,881 --> 00:38:33,618
{\an8}We are not reenactors
{\an8}or even re-creationists;
890
00:38:33,684 --> 00:38:34,985
{\an8}we are reimaginers.
891
00:38:35,052 --> 00:38:37,054
{\an8}They have a sort of lot
{\an8}of social credibility
892
00:38:37,121 --> 00:38:39,857
{\an8}and they're very keen
{\an8}into sort of do it yourself,
893
00:38:39,924 --> 00:38:42,092
{\an8}do it together styles
{\an8}of ideology.
894
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,295
{\an8}We grew up in a situation
{\an8}of don't look inside the box,
895
00:38:45,362 --> 00:38:49,099
{\an8}don't know how your VCR works,
{\an8}you know, and so all of a sudden
896
00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:50,901
{\an8}you run into a group of people
{\an8}that the first thing they do
897
00:38:50,968 --> 00:38:52,970
{\an8}is grab a screwdriver
{\an8}and a hammer and go to work.
898
00:38:53,037 --> 00:38:55,840
{\an8}My job is not just to consume,
{\an8}but steampunk says,
899
00:38:55,906 --> 00:38:57,875
{\an8}engage with it,
{\an8}make it your own,
900
00:38:57,942 --> 00:39:00,310
{\an8}break it, risk it,
{\an8}reinterpret it,
901
00:39:00,377 --> 00:39:01,646
{\an8}turn it into something else.
902
00:39:01,712 --> 00:39:03,247
{\an8}Save the broken bits for later.
903
00:39:03,313 --> 00:39:05,950
{\an8}I love getting my hands dirty.
904
00:39:06,016 --> 00:39:07,952
{\an8}You know, I'm always wanting
{\an8}to make something.
905
00:39:08,018 --> 00:39:10,888
I certainly was always the kid
that took stuff apart.
906
00:39:10,955 --> 00:39:13,290
This has been a way of learning
how to put it back together.
907
00:39:13,357 --> 00:39:15,960
This is Captain Nemo's
underwater rifle.
908
00:39:16,026 --> 00:39:18,696
It took me approximately
three months to make.
909
00:39:18,763 --> 00:39:21,265
There are 93 parts to it.
910
00:39:21,331 --> 00:39:22,800
{\an8}These are the ray guns.
911
00:39:22,867 --> 00:39:24,434
{\an8}This is the ceramic one.
912
00:39:24,501 --> 00:39:26,370
{\an8}You know, when you look at it
{\an8}close up, you can really see
913
00:39:26,436 --> 00:39:27,938
{\an8}that it's made like a film prop.
914
00:39:28,705 --> 00:39:30,675
This one, this doesn't disguise
its origins at all.
915
00:39:30,708 --> 00:39:32,042
I mean, these are coat hooks
and so on.
916
00:39:32,109 --> 00:39:33,944
These are found bits
from other stuff.
917
00:39:34,011 --> 00:39:35,880
It's not meant to pretend
that it's functional.
918
00:39:35,946 --> 00:39:38,415
I think with steampunk,
upcycling's very important.
919
00:39:38,482 --> 00:39:39,850
You take what you have now,
920
00:39:39,917 --> 00:39:41,719
usually a bunch
of mundane stuff,
921
00:39:41,786 --> 00:39:43,320
and you combine it
into something
922
00:39:43,387 --> 00:39:45,990
which looks like it came
out of Jules Verne.
923
00:39:46,256 --> 00:39:48,258
{\an8}So this is the world
{\an8}of Captain Chronomek.
924
00:39:48,325 --> 00:39:52,062
{\an8}Captain Chronomek
{\an8}is a steampunk superhero.
925
00:39:52,129 --> 00:39:55,299
{\an8}He travels through history
{\an8}solving historical puzzles,
926
00:39:55,365 --> 00:39:58,135
{\an8}solving historical mysteries,
{\an8}righting historical wrongs,
927
00:39:58,602 --> 00:40:00,771
and he's ultimately
very invested in the idea
928
00:40:00,838 --> 00:40:02,272
of bringing the wonder
of technology
929
00:40:02,339 --> 00:40:03,473
into the world again.
930
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:05,409
The thing that I'm most
emotionally attached to
931
00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:07,845
is the Luminiferous Tessellator.
932
00:40:07,912 --> 00:40:09,814
It embodies how we make
steampunk art
933
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,381
and how we make props.
934
00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:13,884
It's held together with glue
and tape and paint,
935
00:40:13,951 --> 00:40:16,887
and it's all about
taking these things
936
00:40:16,954 --> 00:40:18,889
and imagining the story
you can tell with them.
937
00:40:18,956 --> 00:40:20,991
{\an8}There's something a little
{\an8}revolutionary about it
938
00:40:21,058 --> 00:40:23,127
{\an8}because you're not just
{\an8}going out and buying
939
00:40:23,193 --> 00:40:27,397
{\an8}a premade something or other,
{\an8}you're creating your own reality
940
00:40:27,464 --> 00:40:30,768
{\an8}out of these bits and bobs,
{\an8}out of our consumer culture.
941
00:40:31,035 --> 00:40:33,771
These clocks, the feather
on the second hand goes
942
00:40:35,706 --> 00:40:36,974
It's a bit of that humor,
943
00:40:37,041 --> 00:40:39,309
and a bit of that
sentimentality.
944
00:40:39,376 --> 00:40:40,945
That's a word
we haven't used yet,
945
00:40:41,011 --> 00:40:43,113
but that's a very steampunk
word is "sentimental."
946
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:45,282
Not just romantic,
but sentimental.
947
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:48,018
The nice thing about living
in a slower era
948
00:40:48,085 --> 00:40:49,887
was that you could
master a technology
949
00:40:49,954 --> 00:40:51,722
before it was obsolete,
950
00:40:51,789 --> 00:40:53,657
and you can't do that anymore.
951
00:40:53,724 --> 00:40:55,059
To me, the heart
of punk is just
952
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:56,560
grab it, make it your own,
do it yourself.
953
00:40:56,626 --> 00:40:59,663
Steampunk, they're grabbing
these technologies
954
00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:01,131
and they're making them
their own.
955
00:41:01,198 --> 00:41:03,233
They're making things
themselves.
956
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,269
{\an8}They're taking pieces
{\an8}of this and pieces of that
957
00:41:05,335 --> 00:41:07,337
{\an8}and putting them together
{\an8}and making something brand new.
958
00:41:07,604 --> 00:41:10,174
{\an8}They will have a story
{\an8}of where this thing came from,
959
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,142
{\an8}and they are actually
{\an8}creating narrative
960
00:41:12,209 --> 00:41:14,211
{\an8}that is basically storytelling
{\an8}of a different type.
961
00:41:14,478 --> 00:41:16,113
When I conceived this character,
962
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:18,916
I realized that I would have
to build a physical model
963
00:41:18,983 --> 00:41:21,485
in order to Photoshop it
into these vintage images.
964
00:41:21,551 --> 00:41:23,553
{\an8}I really think that's
{\an8}part of what sells it
965
00:41:23,620 --> 00:41:27,091
{\an8}in the photographs and all of
{\an8}the digital imagery Paul does.
966
00:41:27,157 --> 00:41:29,693
{\an8}It is actually
{\an8}a physical object.
967
00:41:29,794 --> 00:41:32,596
I wanted to make one of my own
because, heck, that's what I do.
968
00:41:32,662 --> 00:41:34,364
I thought, "Well, gosh,
wouldn't it be great
969
00:41:34,431 --> 00:41:38,602
if there was a one-to-one scale,
full size Boilerplate?"
970
00:41:38,668 --> 00:41:41,338
{\an5}Every time you see Boilerplate
{\an5}moving in the books
971
00:41:41,405 --> 00:41:44,074
{\an5}or sitting down,
{\an5}that's all Photoshopped.
972
00:41:44,141 --> 00:41:48,712
{\an5}So basically, we've got to build
{\an5}all of that into this guy.
973
00:41:48,813 --> 00:41:52,382
I would like it
if his head could turn.
974
00:41:52,449 --> 00:41:53,583
Oh, cool.
975
00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:56,220
Oh, he lives!
976
00:41:56,286 --> 00:41:59,289
That excitement of seeing people
actually creating something
977
00:41:59,356 --> 00:42:01,225
and sometimes
on really large scale,
978
00:42:01,291 --> 00:42:04,094
that creates that kind of
fevered imagination
979
00:42:04,161 --> 00:42:06,163
and wanting to be part
of something
980
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:08,565
that I don't think you can get
through the other elements.
981
00:42:15,538 --> 00:42:17,107
{\an8}The Neverwas Haul
{\an8}is a three-story
982
00:42:17,174 --> 00:42:19,143
{\an8}Victorian house on wheels
983
00:42:19,209 --> 00:42:22,412
{\an8}that is built on the frame of
{\an8}a fifth wheel travel trailer.
984
00:42:22,779 --> 00:42:26,851
{\an8}We built it in 2006
{\an8}for the Burning Man festival.
985
00:42:26,917 --> 00:42:30,554
{\an8}It is a sculpture art car,
986
00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:36,226
{\an8}70% to 80% built from recycled,
{\an8}repurposed material.
987
00:42:36,293 --> 00:42:40,364
{\an8}Obtainium:
{\an8}that which we can obtain.
988
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:43,233
{\an8}Shannon decided to build
{\an8}a drivable house,
989
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,403
{\an8}which is actually directly
{\an8}out of the book Snow Crash.
990
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:48,638
We had the Haul up on the playa.
991
00:42:48,705 --> 00:42:52,476
People came out of the woodworks
in their Victorian finery
992
00:42:52,542 --> 00:42:54,178
that they've obviously
been carrying
993
00:42:54,244 --> 00:42:55,612
out to Burning Man for years.
994
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:57,447
That's where we first heard
of steampunks.
995
00:42:57,514 --> 00:42:59,917
I don't think any of us knew
anything about steampunk.
996
00:42:59,984 --> 00:43:01,285
We had no knowledge of it.
997
00:43:01,351 --> 00:43:03,620
We had no idea that
this was even going on.
998
00:43:03,687 --> 00:43:05,455
We didn't realize that
999
00:43:05,522 --> 00:43:07,992
the fun stuff that we were
getting into
1000
00:43:08,058 --> 00:43:10,260
was something that actually
had a label to it.
1001
00:43:10,327 --> 00:43:13,130
If "The Mouse" had to
build the Neverwas Haul,
1002
00:43:13,197 --> 00:43:15,565
it would cost him about
a half a million dollars
1003
00:43:15,632 --> 00:43:18,903
and they'd have hire somebody
to actually fabricate it.
1004
00:43:18,903 --> 00:43:21,438
We were building it
on beer and pizza.
1005
00:43:21,505 --> 00:43:24,208
{\an8}Shannon O'Hare really
{\an8}pulled us all together
1006
00:43:24,274 --> 00:43:27,411
{\an8}and made it something cohesive.
1007
00:43:27,677 --> 00:43:29,980
The thing about working with
Shannon is, it's like, Shannon hacks
1008
00:43:30,047 --> 00:43:32,149
building construction
the way I hack machinery.
1009
00:43:32,216 --> 00:43:35,986
And I would never have tried
to take on a project that big.
1010
00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:39,356
I would love to foster
1011
00:43:39,423 --> 00:43:43,093
more people doing creative
things with their hands.
1012
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,362
{\an8}And so I've started dabbling
{\an8}more and more
1013
00:43:45,429 --> 00:43:47,831
{\an8}and now I'm cutting
{\an8}metal and wood
1014
00:43:47,932 --> 00:43:49,633
{\an8}and assembling things with tools
1015
00:43:49,699 --> 00:43:51,969
{\an8}and doing stuff I never would've
{\an8}done ever in my entire life.
1016
00:43:52,036 --> 00:43:54,271
You know, we love the fact
that the Neverwas
1017
00:43:54,338 --> 00:43:56,706
has become an art collective.
1018
00:43:56,773 --> 00:44:00,177
It's a lot more like
a family in a way.
1019
00:44:00,244 --> 00:44:02,079
Sam and Katherine,
1020
00:44:02,146 --> 00:44:07,451
they've been with us
for close to four years.
1021
00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:11,721
So they are having a amazing
steampunk ceremony
1022
00:44:11,788 --> 00:44:13,323
done here on the Neverwas.
1023
00:44:13,390 --> 00:44:16,260
Sam proposed to me as
part of a three-act play.
1024
00:44:16,326 --> 00:44:18,695
Dr. Professor Samuel Tweed,
that's my character,
1025
00:44:18,762 --> 00:44:21,298
rides off in his airship
and he crash lands on the moon.
1026
00:44:21,365 --> 00:44:24,168
And he's stranded
and he's totally, you know,
1027
00:44:24,234 --> 00:44:26,636
out of water, out of food,
out of supplies.
1028
00:44:26,703 --> 00:44:28,238
I send a message back to Earth,
1029
00:44:28,305 --> 00:44:31,976
and the Neverwas Haul and their
crew from the Hibernian Academy,
1030
00:44:32,009 --> 00:44:33,743
they come by and they rescue me.
1031
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:35,245
With his beloved librarian.
1032
00:44:35,312 --> 00:44:36,981
Yes, there is a library
on the Haul.
1033
00:44:37,047 --> 00:44:38,415
And he's so overcome,
1034
00:44:38,482 --> 00:44:40,384
he just gets down on one knee
and proposes.
1035
00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:43,053
Oh my dearest Katherine,
I love thee so.
1036
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,055
Even though my airship
is grounded,
1037
00:44:45,122 --> 00:44:46,991
my heart soars to the sky.
1038
00:44:47,057 --> 00:44:50,727
Katherine Becvar,
will you marry me?
1039
00:44:50,794 --> 00:44:53,163
Of course, my love!
1040
00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:55,565
Actually, most of the people
in the audience
1041
00:44:55,632 --> 00:44:57,234
who were just there
for the fundraiser
1042
00:44:57,301 --> 00:44:59,003
didn't realize that it was
a real proposal.
1043
00:44:59,003 --> 00:45:00,304
They just thought it was
part of the show.
1044
00:45:00,370 --> 00:45:01,838
But it was not.
1045
00:45:01,905 --> 00:45:03,440
I actually proposed to her
and gave her a real ring.
1046
00:45:03,507 --> 00:45:05,142
And so tomorrow
at Obtainium Works,
1047
00:45:05,209 --> 00:45:06,543
we're going to take this
to the next level
1048
00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:08,145
and we're actually going
to get married.
1049
00:45:08,212 --> 00:45:10,114
It's going to be monumental.
1050
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:13,450
I mean, these guys
do not do anything small.
1051
00:45:13,517 --> 00:45:16,786
So this is the main
mechanism here.
1052
00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:20,757
And then, of course, you have
to crank it to start with.
1053
00:45:21,024 --> 00:45:23,360
You know, they just love
doing the same stuff
1054
00:45:23,427 --> 00:45:27,131
and the whole costuming thing
and the storytelling
1055
00:45:27,197 --> 00:45:29,566
and, you know, the characters
and so forth...
1056
00:45:29,633 --> 00:45:30,569
they are steampunk.
1057
00:45:39,443 --> 00:45:41,845
I think one reason that we keep
going back to the Victorians
1058
00:45:41,911 --> 00:45:43,447
is because there was
such enthusiasm
1059
00:45:43,513 --> 00:45:45,449
and such optimism
for technology.
1060
00:45:45,715 --> 00:45:47,817
{\an8}It was a time where instead of
{\an8}people looking at technology
1061
00:45:47,884 --> 00:45:49,253
{\an8}and seeing it in such
{\an8}a negative way,
1062
00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:50,720
{\an8}that it was
{\an8}incredibly optimistic.
1063
00:45:50,787 --> 00:45:52,622
{\an8}Science will save us,
{\an8}we'll have the cures
1064
00:45:52,689 --> 00:45:54,524
{\an8}to all diseases,
{\an8}we'll go to the planets.
1065
00:45:54,791 --> 00:45:55,959
{\an8}They honestly believed
{\an8}that the technology
1066
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,594
{\an8}was going to save them.
1067
00:45:57,661 --> 00:45:59,796
{\an8}And, well, Mary Shelley thought
{\an8}maybe it could raise the dead.
1068
00:46:00,163 --> 00:46:01,831
{\an8}If you look at the history
{\an8}of computing itself,
1069
00:46:01,898 --> 00:46:03,433
{\an8}computing started off
{\an8}as a crazy idea
1070
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,269
{\an8}that was too science fiction
{\an8}for its time.
1071
00:46:05,335 --> 00:46:06,870
{\an8}And in the same way,
1072
00:46:06,936 --> 00:46:09,306
{\an8}fantasy and fiction
{\an8}has found a way
1073
00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:12,976
{\an8}to combine the magical
{\an8}and the practical in steampunk.
1074
00:46:13,277 --> 00:46:15,645
{\an8}When people look at that, they
{\an8}can romanticize about an era
1075
00:46:15,712 --> 00:46:18,848
{\an8}in which a lot of people
{\an8}just got together and said,
1076
00:46:18,915 --> 00:46:20,550
{\an8}"Damn it all, let's just go.
1077
00:46:20,617 --> 00:46:22,652
{\an8}"There's nothing too far away
{\an8}that we cannot reach."
1078
00:46:22,919 --> 00:46:25,322
There was this idea that we are
on the cusp of greatness.
1079
00:46:25,389 --> 00:46:27,624
We're on the cusp of, you know,
saving humanity
1080
00:46:27,691 --> 00:46:30,260
and conquering the universe
and doing exciting things,
1081
00:46:30,327 --> 00:46:33,230
whereas the science fiction
of the last 20 or 30 years
1082
00:46:33,297 --> 00:46:34,798
has been more to the tune of
1083
00:46:34,864 --> 00:46:37,000
"We're going to destroy ourselves
with our technology."
1084
00:46:37,301 --> 00:46:38,568
{\an8}There's so little
{\an8}science fiction
1085
00:46:38,635 --> 00:46:41,238
{\an8}that talks about
{\an8}exploration and invention.
1086
00:46:41,305 --> 00:46:44,908
{\an8}It's all "Oh, God, don't build
{\an8}giant robots, they'll kill you!"
1087
00:46:44,974 --> 00:46:47,111
{\an8}And the Victorians were like,
{\an8}"Let's build giant robots!
1088
00:46:47,144 --> 00:46:48,678
{\an8}And, "Oh, shoot,
{\an8}they killed us."
1089
00:46:48,745 --> 00:46:52,416
{\an8}Real science has shown us
{\an8}an amazing universe out there
1090
00:46:52,482 --> 00:46:55,119
{\an8}that we aren't capable
{\an8}of getting to.
1091
00:46:55,152 --> 00:46:56,986
So in a way, going back
to a time
1092
00:46:57,121 --> 00:47:00,157
when science fiction seemed like
it could do anything,
1093
00:47:00,224 --> 00:47:01,725
even though we know it can't,
1094
00:47:01,791 --> 00:47:03,760
that's not rational;
it's magic.
1095
00:47:03,827 --> 00:47:05,595
{\an8}I'm very object driven.
1096
00:47:05,662 --> 00:47:08,432
{\an8}Part of being into the aesthetic
{\an8}of steampunk shows in my work
1097
00:47:08,498 --> 00:47:11,268
{\an8}in like I describe all of these
{\an8}dresses and stuff like that,
1098
00:47:11,335 --> 00:47:12,769
{\an8}and part of is that I love
1099
00:47:12,836 --> 00:47:15,305
{\an8}what objects can tell you
{\an8}about culture.
1100
00:47:15,372 --> 00:47:17,407
And so what I love about
the Victorian era
1101
00:47:17,474 --> 00:47:20,877
is that they are in
an industrial revolution
1102
00:47:20,944 --> 00:47:24,181
where new technology is being
constantly invented
1103
00:47:24,248 --> 00:47:26,516
and so much of it is silly
and whimsical.
1104
00:47:26,583 --> 00:47:33,157
So I love crazy curling tongs
and dusters that are automated
1105
00:47:33,157 --> 00:47:35,959
and the first vacuum cleaners
1106
00:47:36,025 --> 00:47:40,029
and teacups that are made with
little moustache protectors.
1107
00:47:40,164 --> 00:47:42,799
I just encountered
a letter opener
1108
00:47:42,866 --> 00:47:45,802
that had a hidden pocketknife
in the handle.
1109
00:47:45,869 --> 00:47:49,005
Why do you need a pocketknife
in your letter opener,
1110
00:47:49,072 --> 00:47:50,540
which is already quite sharp
often?
1111
00:47:50,607 --> 00:47:52,008
I have no idea,
but there it is.
1112
00:47:52,075 --> 00:47:53,343
That's the kind of things that
1113
00:47:53,410 --> 00:47:54,778
the Victorians were doing
all the time.
1114
00:47:55,044 --> 00:47:57,747
{\an8}It has so many elements,
{\an8}but one of them has to be
1115
00:47:57,814 --> 00:48:02,586
{\an8}nostalgia for the Industrial
{\an8}Age, which is over,
1116
00:48:02,652 --> 00:48:06,356
{\an8}and so as soon as
{\an8}something real is gone,
1117
00:48:06,423 --> 00:48:07,959
{\an8}you can have the fantasy of it.
1118
00:48:11,026 --> 00:48:13,630
{\an8}One of the most common
{\an8}misperceptions of steampunk
1119
00:48:13,697 --> 00:48:15,599
{\an8}is that these people are just
{\an8}trying to go back.
1120
00:48:15,665 --> 00:48:17,601
{\an8}They're just trying to go back
{\an8}to like a simpler time.
1121
00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:19,569
{\an8}And they're just trying to get
{\an8}rid of all of this stuff.
1122
00:48:19,636 --> 00:48:22,572
{\an8}No, most of these
{\an8}people, they love it,
1123
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,109
{\an8}but they're recognizing it
{\an8}for the tool that it is.
1124
00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:29,313
As our technology has become
so terribly, terribly powerful
1125
00:48:29,379 --> 00:48:31,047
and we've become
so dependent on it,
1126
00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,618
there's simultaneously something
very fragile about it.
1127
00:48:34,784 --> 00:48:37,254
{\an8}Sure, we love technology
{\an8}and it's magical,
1128
00:48:37,321 --> 00:48:39,389
{\an8}but, you know, not only do
{\an8}none of us know
1129
00:48:39,456 --> 00:48:41,791
{\an8}how to like open up an iPad
{\an8}and repair it or make it,
1130
00:48:41,858 --> 00:48:45,362
{\an8}but we kind of almost feel like
{\an8}it's controlling our lives.
1131
00:48:45,429 --> 00:48:47,831
I have an iPhone that we call
the Jesus Phone.
1132
00:48:47,897 --> 00:48:50,567
I can see myself from space
with that phone,
1133
00:48:50,634 --> 00:48:52,336
but god help me if
I drop it in a bathtub.
1134
00:48:52,402 --> 00:48:54,003
I mean, it's all over.
1135
00:48:54,070 --> 00:48:56,706
And I think that goes back to
some of the issues of control,
1136
00:48:56,773 --> 00:48:58,942
like taking control of your own
identity and your own destiny.
1137
00:48:59,008 --> 00:49:01,811
I think that a lot of people
feel they don't want to be
1138
00:49:01,878 --> 00:49:04,113
that far removed from
how things work.
1139
00:49:04,248 --> 00:49:06,015
When the grid goes down,
1140
00:49:06,082 --> 00:49:08,017
what do we have
that still works?
1141
00:49:08,084 --> 00:49:09,253
Well, we have the old things.
1142
00:49:09,319 --> 00:49:10,687
We have the analog things.
1143
00:49:10,754 --> 00:49:12,889
{\an8}The steampunk aesthetic
{\an8}is kind of a rebellion
1144
00:49:12,956 --> 00:49:17,026
{\an8}against pretty much the whole
{\an8}industrial design aesthetic
1145
00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:18,995
{\an8}of the last 50 years
1146
00:49:19,262 --> 00:49:21,998
where they've basically been
trying to boil everything down
1147
00:49:22,065 --> 00:49:23,633
into a magic box.
1148
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,035
The technology's insane,
it's absolutely amazing,
1149
00:49:26,102 --> 00:49:29,273
but because it's everywhere,
you don't really notice it.
1150
00:49:29,339 --> 00:49:31,341
I think the mind begins
to kind of slide off
1151
00:49:31,408 --> 00:49:33,877
the seamlessness of Apple design
after a while.
1152
00:49:33,943 --> 00:49:35,612
If I really sit back
and think about it,
1153
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,281
it's just like utterly bizarre
to me.
1154
00:49:37,347 --> 00:49:41,017
I mean, an iPad is like,
you know, it's fuckin' magic.
1155
00:49:41,084 --> 00:49:43,420
I can just touch it, and I can,
ooh, sending stuff.
1156
00:49:43,487 --> 00:49:45,021
It's just like
in these movies --
1157
00:49:45,088 --> 00:49:46,590
Blade Runner didn't even
have shit that nice.
1158
00:49:46,856 --> 00:49:48,392
{\an8}Our current
{\an8}industrial design movement
1159
00:49:48,458 --> 00:49:50,394
{\an8}is beautiful and amazing
{\an8}and streamlined.
1160
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:51,728
{\an8}Oh sure, and it's
{\an8}designed to keep you
1161
00:49:51,795 --> 00:49:53,563
{\an8}from killing yourself
{\an8}in the gears.
1162
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:56,333
Right, but just the fact that
you see it over and over again.
1163
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,102
It's really amazing, but it
doesn't look like anything.
1164
00:49:59,168 --> 00:50:00,837
It doesn't look like a machine.
1165
00:50:00,904 --> 00:50:03,540
It looks like
an Etch A Sketch.
1166
00:50:03,607 --> 00:50:05,942
{\an8}Somehow or another we're
{\an8}supposed to accept the idea
1167
00:50:06,009 --> 00:50:07,911
{\an8}that less is better.
1168
00:50:08,177 --> 00:50:10,046
The Victorians would not
have bought into that
1169
00:50:10,113 --> 00:50:11,315
for five seconds.
1170
00:50:11,348 --> 00:50:12,682
They thought if
you were going to make
1171
00:50:12,749 --> 00:50:14,651
a giant death ray
killing machine,
1172
00:50:14,718 --> 00:50:17,854
it should fill an entire room,
and it should be gorgeous,
1173
00:50:17,921 --> 00:50:19,789
and it should have a million
levers and buttons
1174
00:50:19,856 --> 00:50:22,025
that don't even do anything.
They just look cool.
1175
00:50:22,091 --> 00:50:24,928
But it should look like a giant
death ray killing machine,
1176
00:50:24,994 --> 00:50:26,763
and now we have a button.
1177
00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:30,967
Something like your slick, shiny
iPod or your laptop
1178
00:50:31,034 --> 00:50:33,002
or your slick modern surface
1179
00:50:33,069 --> 00:50:38,342
just doesn't have that same
degree of humanity in there.
1180
00:50:38,408 --> 00:50:40,644
To some extent we like
sleek functionality,
1181
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:42,612
but we need some rough edges
1182
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,281
for our brains to kind of
latch onto.
1183
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:47,651
Sometimes we want that
kind of validation
1184
00:50:47,717 --> 00:50:50,320
that there is stuff in our lives
that we can touch
1185
00:50:50,387 --> 00:50:52,889
and that connects you
to the real world.
1186
00:50:53,256 --> 00:50:57,093
{\an8}It's great to have a smartphone,
{\an8}but that phone is boring.
1187
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,462
I mean, look at this phone,
1188
00:50:58,528 --> 00:51:00,296
like look at how fucking tiny
the buttons are.
1189
00:51:00,364 --> 00:51:01,931
Like, this is aggravating!
1190
00:51:01,998 --> 00:51:04,768
There's a banality to like
a candy bar phone.
1191
00:51:04,834 --> 00:51:06,636
It's made to be as lightweight
as possible,
1192
00:51:06,703 --> 00:51:09,305
very cheap clattery sound
when you drop it on the floor,
1193
00:51:09,373 --> 00:51:14,043
really, really junky piece
of hardware,
1194
00:51:14,110 --> 00:51:15,745
but it's a miracle.
1195
00:51:15,812 --> 00:51:20,216
{\an8}You give that device
{\an8}to a French semaphorist
1196
00:51:20,283 --> 00:51:23,487
{\an8}in the 19th century,
{\an8}and he would weep.
1197
00:51:23,553 --> 00:51:25,955
And what I think steampunk does
1198
00:51:26,022 --> 00:51:31,828
is make you remember
just how miraculous it all is.
1199
00:51:31,895 --> 00:51:35,031
For me, it just
shows the maturity
1200
00:51:35,098 --> 00:51:37,166
of, sort of, our technology,
1201
00:51:37,233 --> 00:51:39,736
is we're having more of it,
and because there's more of it,
1202
00:51:39,803 --> 00:51:41,237
people want different
things from it,
1203
00:51:41,304 --> 00:51:42,639
because one size
doesn't fit all.
1204
00:51:42,706 --> 00:51:44,474
What kind of relationship
1205
00:51:44,541 --> 00:51:47,511
do we want to have with people,
and between people?
1206
00:51:47,577 --> 00:51:50,780
And how does your technology
mediate that?
1207
00:51:51,047 --> 00:51:53,417
How can we use technology
or change technology
1208
00:51:53,483 --> 00:51:55,685
or create technology
in a way that allows us
1209
00:51:55,752 --> 00:51:58,121
to express our own individuality
1210
00:51:58,187 --> 00:52:01,858
but also at the same time
not be confined to that
1211
00:52:01,925 --> 00:52:04,193
and not have everything that
we seek out through technology
1212
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:06,095
only merely reinforce that?
1213
00:52:06,162 --> 00:52:07,731
We are really entered an era
1214
00:52:07,797 --> 00:52:10,066
in which part of the business
model of contemporary technology
1215
00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,703
is often making it illegal for
you to modify your technology,
1216
00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:17,774
and if your needs aren't
widespread enough
1217
00:52:17,841 --> 00:52:19,443
that someone can figure out
a reason
1218
00:52:19,443 --> 00:52:21,077
to market a product to you,
1219
00:52:21,144 --> 00:52:24,548
you're just out of luck when it
comes to shifting your device.
1220
00:52:24,614 --> 00:52:28,317
And that inhumanity
in the scale of technology
1221
00:52:28,452 --> 00:52:30,086
and in the way technology works
1222
00:52:30,153 --> 00:52:32,722
is, I think, one of the great
frustrations of the modern time -
1223
00:52:32,789 --> 00:52:35,024
This passive voice:
"Mistakes were made.
1224
00:52:35,091 --> 00:52:37,160
"There is no human
agency responsible
1225
00:52:37,226 --> 00:52:39,295
"for this thing that's
getting in your way."
1226
00:52:39,362 --> 00:52:40,864
Really frustrating.
1227
00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:43,467
{\an8}People's interaction
{\an8}with technology is kind of,
1228
00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:45,134
{\an8}it's kind of strange.
1229
00:52:45,201 --> 00:52:47,537
{\an8}I mean, we're both addicted
{\an8}and frightened of it.
1230
00:52:47,804 --> 00:52:52,075
One of the big questions today
is whether or not
1231
00:52:52,141 --> 00:52:56,780
we will have enough tinkerable
stuff in our world
1232
00:52:56,846 --> 00:52:59,483
that when someone takes away
the tinkerable,
1233
00:52:59,483 --> 00:53:01,184
we go, "Wait a second!
1234
00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:04,387
"Inherently, technology should be
tinkerable!"
1235
00:53:04,488 --> 00:53:05,855
{\an8}I think the way that
{\an8}humanity interacts
1236
00:53:05,922 --> 00:53:09,358
{\an8}with technology right now
{\an8}is incredibly alienating
1237
00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:11,227
{\an8}and incredibly destructive,
1238
00:53:11,294 --> 00:53:14,263
{\an8}and I understand why people
{\an8}want to reject that
1239
00:53:14,330 --> 00:53:15,932
{\an8}and just throw out everything.
1240
00:53:15,999 --> 00:53:18,935
{\an8}But I consider that to be
{\an8}a horrid mistake.
1241
00:53:19,002 --> 00:53:20,770
I'm not interested in throwing
away technology,
1242
00:53:21,037 --> 00:53:22,906
I'm not interested in
throwing away human knowledge.
1243
00:53:22,972 --> 00:53:25,509
I am interested in
redeveloping technology
1244
00:53:25,575 --> 00:53:27,210
from a more human perspective
1245
00:53:27,276 --> 00:53:30,514
and with basically
different motivations.
1246
00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:31,915
I would say that right now
1247
00:53:31,981 --> 00:53:33,850
technology is essentially
profit-motivated,
1248
00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:35,952
and I would argue that
that is actually,
1249
00:53:36,019 --> 00:53:37,887
it does a disservice
to science.
1250
00:53:37,954 --> 00:53:40,123
Steampunk ships broken.
1251
00:53:40,189 --> 00:53:42,892
The idea is that you are
supposed to open it,
1252
00:53:42,959 --> 00:53:44,761
the idea is that you are
supposed to modify it,
1253
00:53:44,828 --> 00:53:46,295
you are supposed
to personalize it,
1254
00:53:46,362 --> 00:53:47,697
you are supposed to humanize it.
1255
00:53:47,764 --> 00:53:50,934
An object from the notional
steampunk past,
1256
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,970
parallel dimension
arrives with the intention
1257
00:53:54,037 --> 00:53:56,405
that it's not to be used when
it comes out of the package.
1258
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:59,008
You're meant to do stuff
with it to make it yours.
1259
00:53:59,075 --> 00:54:02,011
Stuff has to happen to it.
It's meant to be bodged,
1260
00:54:02,078 --> 00:54:04,581
and it has obvious snags
hanging off of it
1261
00:54:04,648 --> 00:54:06,750
where you're meant to add stuff,
or fix stuff,
1262
00:54:06,816 --> 00:54:09,619
or attach stuff,
or move stuff around.
1263
00:54:09,686 --> 00:54:11,855
It has a lot of
user-serviceable parts.
1264
00:54:11,921 --> 00:54:13,990
And so that appeals to me
1265
00:54:14,057 --> 00:54:16,793
partly because, you know,
there is no device
1266
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:19,563
that is exactly perfect for you,
and even if there was,
1267
00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,897
it wouldn't be perfect for you
tomorrow
1268
00:54:20,964 --> 00:54:22,566
because your needs would change.
1269
00:54:22,566 --> 00:54:24,300
And so the idea of having
configurability
1270
00:54:24,367 --> 00:54:27,904
built into the hardware
around you is very seductive.
1271
00:54:27,971 --> 00:54:30,073
Technology is a manifestation
1272
00:54:30,139 --> 00:54:34,878
of our relationship with nature,
with people.
1273
00:54:34,944 --> 00:54:38,281
Is there a way that we can
restructure how we see people
1274
00:54:38,347 --> 00:54:40,584
that would change the kind
of technology we produce?
1275
00:54:40,850 --> 00:54:43,587
I think that a lot of people are
really interested in steampunk
1276
00:54:43,653 --> 00:54:45,121
as a reinterpretation
1277
00:54:45,188 --> 00:54:47,056
of humanity's interaction
with machinery.
1278
00:54:47,123 --> 00:54:50,026
Once you understand machinery,
1279
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:52,461
you realize there's really only
so many ways to do things,
1280
00:54:52,596 --> 00:54:54,297
and you can start hacking
machinery
1281
00:54:54,363 --> 00:54:55,865
the way people do with software.
1282
00:54:56,132 --> 00:54:58,968
{\an8}And there's new plastic crap
{\an8}coming out all the time
1283
00:54:59,035 --> 00:55:02,706
{\an8}that somebody has to go through
{\an8}and see how it can be bent
1284
00:55:02,772 --> 00:55:04,608
{\an8}to be used for something else.
1285
00:55:04,674 --> 00:55:06,175
And maybe the grid
won't go down,
1286
00:55:06,242 --> 00:55:08,244
maybe we will end up
in some, you know,
1287
00:55:08,311 --> 00:55:10,947
vast space-exploring
science fictiony future,
1288
00:55:11,014 --> 00:55:12,415
and that would be fantastic,
1289
00:55:12,481 --> 00:55:15,318
but the hammer and nail
is never going to go away.
1290
00:55:15,684 --> 00:55:19,288
In real terms, anything that
anchors you more in a reality
1291
00:55:19,355 --> 00:55:22,992
that isn't based in the Internet
and the electronic world
1292
00:55:23,059 --> 00:55:26,896
may actually be a lifesaving
point of view down the road.
1293
00:55:27,163 --> 00:55:30,366
I believe that we will be forced
to reconsider
1294
00:55:30,433 --> 00:55:33,269
all the motivations
behind our technology
1295
00:55:33,336 --> 00:55:36,472
by ecological concerns,
and I think as we do that
1296
00:55:36,539 --> 00:55:38,341
we're going to start coming
to the same answers
1297
00:55:38,407 --> 00:55:40,944
that steampunks are on
the forefront of.
1298
00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:44,180
Probably not the ray guns.
1299
00:55:57,893 --> 00:55:59,663
There are very few places left
1300
00:55:59,696 --> 00:56:02,799
where adults can go
and learn new skills.
1301
00:56:02,866 --> 00:56:04,100
It's the great leveler,
1302
00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,869
is making and sharing
and teaching,
1303
00:56:05,935 --> 00:56:07,837
and teaching doesn't have
to happen in a school.
1304
00:56:07,904 --> 00:56:09,806
I've learned more about
history and music
1305
00:56:09,873 --> 00:56:12,108
and artwork and people
because of steampunk
1306
00:56:12,175 --> 00:56:15,044
than I ever did in grade school,
high school, college.
1307
00:56:15,111 --> 00:56:17,681
I like learning, and I feel like
by teaching,
1308
00:56:17,714 --> 00:56:20,684
you get to share with people,
and that's just so exciting.
1309
00:56:20,717 --> 00:56:22,719
People actually absorb
information much better
1310
00:56:22,786 --> 00:56:24,320
when they're being engaged
and entertained.
1311
00:56:24,387 --> 00:56:26,856
When people look at Boilerplate,
they smile, they laugh,
1312
00:56:26,923 --> 00:56:28,925
and that's exactly
what I was looking for.
1313
00:56:28,992 --> 00:56:30,894
When you go to
these sorts of events,
1314
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,129
you get to talk to a really
wide range of people
1315
00:56:33,196 --> 00:56:34,898
about how they interact
with technology,
1316
00:56:34,964 --> 00:56:36,499
how they interact
with the world.
1317
00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:38,401
The fact that there is
a community
1318
00:56:38,467 --> 00:56:41,771
that is doing different aspects
of the same thing, it's fuel.
1319
00:56:41,838 --> 00:56:44,607
And it's interesting
to hear kids who are 11
1320
00:56:44,708 --> 00:56:47,243
talk about wanting to build
robots that are steam-powered.
1321
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:48,845
You'll walk around
in the hallway
1322
00:56:48,912 --> 00:56:50,279
at a steampunk convention
and you'll see
1323
00:56:50,346 --> 00:56:52,816
a 16-year-old boy
and a 70-year-old woman
1324
00:56:52,882 --> 00:56:54,517
having an in-depth discussion
1325
00:56:54,583 --> 00:56:57,553
on how to crochet an octopus
or something like that.
1326
00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:59,923
And that kind of exchange
of knowledge
1327
00:56:59,989 --> 00:57:01,925
is how we all better ourselves.
1328
00:57:01,991 --> 00:57:04,493
People often say, "How did you
get into science fiction?"
1329
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,962
And my pat answer is always,
1330
00:57:06,029 --> 00:57:07,396
"Well, how did you get
out of it?"
1331
00:57:07,463 --> 00:57:10,033
Because if you look at a class
of 8-year-olds,
1332
00:57:10,099 --> 00:57:11,835
most of them are reading
that kind of stuff,
1333
00:57:11,901 --> 00:57:14,503
which suggests that those of us
within the field,
1334
00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:20,143
we're not so much converts;
we're the ones with rigor.
1335
00:57:20,209 --> 00:57:22,445
I'm going to be running
a workshop at Maker Faire
1336
00:57:22,511 --> 00:57:26,149
where I'm going to bring a
collection of essentially junk
1337
00:57:26,215 --> 00:57:29,185
to get kids to make their own
steampunk props
1338
00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,955
within the universe
of Captain Chronomek.
1339
00:57:38,761 --> 00:57:41,597
Maker Faire and the
do-it-yourself world
1340
00:57:41,664 --> 00:57:44,333
is a revolt against
the corporate
1341
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,971
"This is what you're going to
buy today" consumer world.
1342
00:57:48,037 --> 00:57:50,639
My whole thing has been children
playing with live steam.
1343
00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:54,778
Showing kids the ways in which
1344
00:57:54,811 --> 00:57:59,148
they can have fun and be engaged
in technology creates the people
1345
00:57:59,215 --> 00:58:01,785
that are going to be designing
the technology in the future.
1346
00:58:01,818 --> 00:58:03,920
{\an8}I do believe that
1347
00:58:03,987 --> 00:58:05,989
{\an8}if more people grow up reading steampunk,
1348
00:58:06,055 --> 00:58:07,456
{\an8}they're going to have
{\an8}a better idea
1349
00:58:07,523 --> 00:58:09,325
{\an8}about how technology
{\an8}can actually be ours
1350
00:58:09,392 --> 00:58:11,294
{\an8}and not a cold,
{\an8}alienated thing.
1351
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:13,496
If every child goes home
1352
00:58:13,562 --> 00:58:16,632
and builds something great
and wants to create more,
1353
00:58:16,699 --> 00:58:18,234
then our job is done.
1354
00:58:18,301 --> 00:58:20,203
I think steampunk will be
a gateway
1355
00:58:20,269 --> 00:58:22,806
into a future phile, a tribe,
1356
00:58:22,806 --> 00:58:25,809
of aspirational, elite,
intellectual,
1357
00:58:25,875 --> 00:58:27,276
and artistic creative people.
1358
00:58:27,343 --> 00:58:28,812
I would love to live
in that world,
1359
00:58:28,812 --> 00:58:30,646
and I think I'm in it
right now.
1360
00:58:30,713 --> 00:58:31,881
A few times a year.
1361
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Why not make it 24/7?
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Welcome to Obtainium Works!
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The steampunk wedding
of the century!
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I am just having
the most fun day of my life.
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You throw a party, and all
your friends show up.
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Weddings are awesome!
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I think there are too many
people in the world right now
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who just, you know,
they won't sing,
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they won't tell stories
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because "Oh, well,
I'm not a professional,"
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and I want to see more and more
people going,
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"So what? I'm not a professional.
This gives me joy."
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Even if it's only pretty.
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You know, pretty is
its own reward.
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At the end of the day,
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steampunk is really a story
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about artisanship
on a human scale.
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If we can open the door
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for other people to experience,
for other people to create,
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for other people to express,
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maybe that does change
how the human equation happens.
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Thank you, everyone,
for coming.
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I hope you enjoy the show.
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There's nothing magical
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about Victorian top hats
and brass.
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This is not what's important.
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Make your own dream.
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I keep meeting
really amazing people,
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and if steampunk
has brought me anything,
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it's brought me a lot of really,
really excellent friends.
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I have family all over
the world now.
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Perhaps in some ways
it's almost been good therapy.
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There were different events in
my life that made me pull back,
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and there were many days
when I would be really happy
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to never walk out
the front door again.
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Being in the ambassador role,
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I had to go out and meet people
in person and be present,
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and that's been
a very good thing.
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I have two young daughters,
and the 8-year-old
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is trying to understand
what steampunk is.
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We took her with us
to the Abney Park show,
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and she had a blast.
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It was her first
rock concert ever,
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and she now wants to become
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an artist rock band fiddler
airship pirate.
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Creativity is the
most important part.
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Here in our heart.
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That's how we hack that.
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Because they don't own this.
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By the power vested in me
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by the Church of the Subgenius
and the Universal Life Church,
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I hereby pronounce you
husband and wife.
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Professor Tweed,
you may kiss your bride.
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There's a spark of inspiration
and creativity and imagination
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in all of these people
that we've spoken to.
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Fundamentally steampunk is about
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the power of the human
imagination.
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Words cannot express the delight
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that I am feeling
at this moment.
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Thank you.
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I want to say thank you all,
very much.
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I really feel honored to have
this dinner with you all.
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Cheers.
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I'm very happy with
what we've learned.
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You can take this interplay
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and take the questioning
and envisioning
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and thinking about the future
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and actually have it be fun
and cool and hip.
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It's taking the absurd
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and the weird and the cool
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and putting those things
together and making it fun.
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And it steampunk makes
somebody smile,
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that's to me the success.
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I have no problem being
a jester for the world.
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I have no problem
with people going,
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"You look like
a complete buffoon."
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And I'm like, "I feel good.
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"I like the way I look,
and I made you smile."
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When I get up in the mornin',
I'm gonna put on my leather.
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When I go to bed at night,
I'll take it off
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and put it back on
the next day.
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I'm not stoppin',
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and I don't think anybody else
is, not for a while.
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We all do our little bit
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to, you know, make steampunk
really, really complex,
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just the way that,
you know, society is.
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It's good times.
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We must dance!
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