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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,898 --> 00:00:29,536 People constantly ask me, what is steampunk? 2 00:00:29,602 --> 00:00:33,606 It's stories and stuff -- movies, pictures, objects. 3 00:00:33,673 --> 00:00:34,974 That draws its inspiration 4 00:00:35,041 --> 00:00:37,677 from the science fiction of the 19th century. 5 00:00:37,744 --> 00:00:40,913 Based around a fantasticated Victoriana. 6 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:45,084 Looking back to look forward again and say, but what if? 7 00:00:45,151 --> 00:00:48,388 It's not a historical movement; it's an anachronistic movement. 8 00:00:48,455 --> 00:00:50,690 You get the fantasy stuff, and you get the science fiction stuff, 9 00:00:50,757 --> 00:00:52,692 and it comes together, and it's made of awesome! 10 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:56,896 I would call it the crossroads of technology and romance. 11 00:00:56,963 --> 00:00:58,565 There's adventure, there's excitement. 12 00:00:58,631 --> 00:01:00,600 You break away from the prim and the proper 13 00:01:00,667 --> 00:01:02,001 and the straight and the narrow 14 00:01:02,068 --> 00:01:03,870 and you end up going just a little bit wild. 15 00:01:03,936 --> 00:01:06,373 Things are on fire. Things are gushing steam. 16 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:08,307 Things are powered by zombies and ether. 17 00:01:08,375 --> 00:01:09,576 I mean, that's exciting. 18 00:01:09,642 --> 00:01:10,777 People ask me why I like steampunk. 19 00:01:10,843 --> 00:01:12,078 I'm like, "It's fun!" 20 00:01:12,144 --> 00:01:13,746 I love it when a kid runs up and goes, 21 00:01:13,813 --> 00:01:15,515 "Oh my god, this is steampunk!" 22 00:01:15,582 --> 00:01:17,384 The Society for Creative Anachronism 23 00:01:17,384 --> 00:01:20,787 never seemed half as creative as this. 24 00:01:20,853 --> 00:01:23,590 People will debate really what steampunk is. 25 00:01:23,656 --> 00:01:25,124 People have different visions of it. 26 00:01:25,191 --> 00:01:27,594 But trying to distill it down to something 27 00:01:27,660 --> 00:01:30,096 that you can tell your mom is kind of difficult. 28 00:01:30,162 --> 00:01:33,299 And I think it's been very hard to explain to people 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,034 that, yeah, steampunk is political. 30 00:01:35,101 --> 00:01:37,003 I made the claim in an issue of Steampunk Magazine 31 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:38,671 that steampunk would save the world. 32 00:01:38,738 --> 00:01:40,573 I'm a little bit into blind optimism. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,074 We're causin' a riot. 34 00:01:42,141 --> 00:01:44,444 When you walk down the street in a top hat and spats, 35 00:01:44,511 --> 00:01:45,645 you are causin' a riot. 36 00:01:45,655 --> 00:01:46,779 You're makin' a statement. 37 00:02:03,162 --> 00:02:04,697 {\an8}We're writing a book {\an8}on steampunk. 38 00:02:04,764 --> 00:02:07,166 {\an8}So we're getting a group {\an8}of steampunks together, 39 00:02:07,233 --> 00:02:09,436 {\an8}along with a futurist 40 00:02:09,436 --> 00:02:10,937 {\an8}and a cultural historian 41 00:02:11,003 --> 00:02:13,473 {\an8}to talk about the future and to talk about 42 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:15,341 {\an8}what steampunk can tell us about the future. 43 00:02:15,442 --> 00:02:18,611 {\an8}We've got representatives from all around 44 00:02:18,678 --> 00:02:21,247 {\an8}the different portions of steampunk culture, 45 00:02:21,313 --> 00:02:22,916 {\an8}so everything from literature 46 00:02:23,683 --> 00:02:26,285 You get to fashion to games to music, You get you name it. 47 00:02:26,552 --> 00:02:28,855 And there's a whimsy to it and there's a play with the past 48 00:02:28,921 --> 00:02:31,624 that I think can tell us a lot about how human beings 49 00:02:31,691 --> 00:02:34,827 think about themselves in relationship to their past 50 00:02:34,894 --> 00:02:36,929 and what that takes them toward their future. 51 00:02:36,996 --> 00:02:39,632 In the work that I do in future casting, 52 00:02:39,699 --> 00:02:43,269 it's looking five, ten, fifteen years out, 53 00:02:43,335 --> 00:02:46,238 and so I'm always searching for different visions of the future, 54 00:02:46,305 --> 00:02:48,541 and that's one of the things that I found really interesting 55 00:02:48,608 --> 00:02:50,810 about steampunk because steampunk gives you 56 00:02:50,877 --> 00:02:53,012 a revisionist history of the past. 57 00:02:53,079 --> 00:02:56,248 It's recrafting the past, and that fascinated me. 58 00:02:56,315 --> 00:02:58,851 We've referred to me as an embedded cultural historian 59 00:02:58,918 --> 00:03:01,053 in a sense, and so in some senses 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,656 I am becoming a part of this culture increasingly. 61 00:03:03,723 --> 00:03:05,024 In other senses, I'm studying it. 62 00:03:05,091 --> 00:03:06,526 I have questions. 63 00:03:06,593 --> 00:03:07,894 I have questions I want answered. 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,130 I am here so that I can build a better future, 65 00:03:11,197 --> 00:03:14,166 so that we can build better technologies for people, 66 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:16,636 and I want to learn from these experts 67 00:03:16,703 --> 00:03:19,271 to get to, what is the future that we want? 68 00:03:19,338 --> 00:03:20,873 And that's not easy. 69 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:24,176 In the end, it isn't just about being fans of steampunk. 70 00:03:24,243 --> 00:03:27,079 It isn't just about thinking steampunk's cool. 71 00:03:27,146 --> 00:03:30,049 I think that we can really learn something important 72 00:03:30,116 --> 00:03:32,852 and I think that tonight we could actually do something 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,821 that's quite important to think about 74 00:03:34,887 --> 00:03:37,189 what is the future that we want to live in? 75 00:03:37,256 --> 00:03:38,891 And it might take a little bit of digging, 76 00:03:38,958 --> 00:03:40,527 but I think we can get there. 77 00:03:40,727 --> 00:03:43,095 I want to thank you all before we start. 78 00:03:43,162 --> 00:03:45,197 Cheers. Thank you so much. 79 00:03:45,764 --> 00:03:47,433 So just give a sort of a little overview 80 00:03:47,534 --> 00:03:49,068 of sort of what you see as steampunk 81 00:03:49,135 --> 00:03:51,103 but then, more importantly, how did you come to it? 82 00:03:51,370 --> 00:03:53,606 {\an8}It just connects with so many {\an8}different things that I love. 83 00:03:53,673 --> 00:03:55,207 {\an8}Like everyone else {\an8}at this table, 84 00:03:55,274 --> 00:03:59,045 {\an8}I love things that are beautiful {\an8}and beautifully made. 85 00:03:59,311 --> 00:04:01,648 I love things that are both functional and ornamental 86 00:04:01,714 --> 00:04:04,817 and I love the creativity and the imagination 87 00:04:04,884 --> 00:04:06,853 that go into a lot of the things 88 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:08,721 that people in the steampunk community do. 89 00:04:08,988 --> 00:04:14,393 {\an8}Steampunk is an odd {\an8}recursive coining 90 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:17,897 {\an8}that echoes cyberpunk. 91 00:04:17,964 --> 00:04:19,566 {\an8}Certainly ever since cyberpunk, 92 00:04:19,566 --> 00:04:21,433 {\an8}there's been a kind of, {\an8}I would say, 93 00:04:21,568 --> 00:04:23,770 {\an8}a sort of parlor game {\an8}among geeks, 94 00:04:23,836 --> 00:04:27,373 {\an8}which is, you know, X punk, {\an8}Y punk, anything punk. 95 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:29,576 {\an8}It's nostalgic cyberpunk. 96 00:04:29,576 --> 00:04:30,943 {\an8}That's like super interesting. 97 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 {\an8}It's science fiction unshackled 98 00:04:33,946 --> 00:04:37,483 {\an8}from all that tedious {\an8}reality stuff. 99 00:04:37,584 --> 00:04:39,118 {\an8}It is retro futurism. 100 00:04:39,185 --> 00:04:41,487 {\an8}It is the science fiction of {\an8}the future that never happened. 101 00:04:41,588 --> 00:04:44,791 {\an8}It's full of grand {\an8}and glorious stylish people 102 00:04:44,857 --> 00:04:48,928 {\an8}doing beautiful, hand-tooled {\an8}stuff with technology. 103 00:04:49,195 --> 00:04:52,599 {\an8}Imagine the Victorians {\an8}flying to the moon 104 00:04:52,665 --> 00:04:54,100 {\an8}in a hot air balloon. 105 00:04:54,366 --> 00:04:57,203 {\an8}People want to get into things {\an8}which will have history, 106 00:04:57,269 --> 00:05:00,239 {\an8}that have stories that are {\an8}unique and personal, 107 00:05:00,306 --> 00:05:02,775 {\an8}and steampunk is all about that, {\an8}and you can do it 108 00:05:02,842 --> 00:05:04,677 {\an8}not only with the clothes {\an8}that you're wearing 109 00:05:04,744 --> 00:05:06,045 {\an8}but with the ideas that are {\an8}in your head. 110 00:05:06,312 --> 00:05:07,747 And people usually get pretty excited about it. 111 00:05:07,814 --> 00:05:09,248 It's a fun thought experiment. 112 00:05:09,315 --> 00:05:13,185 When the Victorians were writing this sort of material, 113 00:05:13,252 --> 00:05:15,622 they were like, "Oh, this is great! 114 00:05:15,688 --> 00:05:17,289 "Let's build a gun big enough 115 00:05:17,356 --> 00:05:19,659 "to shoot a bullet at the moon!" You know? 116 00:05:19,726 --> 00:05:21,193 And it's like, sure, 117 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:23,329 and you know what it's gonna get there? Paste. 118 00:05:23,395 --> 00:05:26,332 But you don't have to deal with that in steampunk. 119 00:05:26,398 --> 00:05:29,936 It has more of a sense of fun, and people like that. 120 00:05:30,002 --> 00:05:32,639 When it comes to steampunk, the appeal is so much broader. 121 00:05:32,705 --> 00:05:36,709 It's about 50 - 50 men and women, and you see people of all ages. 122 00:05:36,976 --> 00:05:39,078 {\an8}I found science fiction {\an8}very early on as a kid 123 00:05:39,145 --> 00:05:41,047 {\an8}by watching television shows {\an8}like Star Trek. 124 00:05:41,313 --> 00:05:44,951 {\an8}The idea of mashing up {\an8}science fiction and robots 125 00:05:45,017 --> 00:05:48,788 {\an8}with this Wild West aesthetic {\an8}just blew my mind. 126 00:05:48,855 --> 00:05:50,289 {\an8}And I love the rivets 127 00:05:50,356 --> 00:05:54,026 {\an8}and I love the gears {\an8}and I love the steel 128 00:05:54,093 --> 00:05:57,664 {\an8}and I actually get kinda {\an8}kinky about that stuff. 129 00:05:58,430 --> 00:06:01,367 {\an8}I grew up reading books like {\an8}James Gurney's Dinotopia, 130 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:03,169 {\an8}which is a fantastic example 131 00:06:03,235 --> 00:06:04,904 {\an8}of just a beautifully {\an8}designed world 132 00:06:04,971 --> 00:06:06,773 {\an8}that embraces science fiction 133 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,175 {\an8}and embraces {\an8}the Victorian setting. 134 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:10,209 The actual movement, 135 00:06:10,276 --> 00:06:14,180 I probably started to pay attention to it around 2004, 136 00:06:14,246 --> 00:06:17,684 and at first I had a very heavy disdain for it 137 00:06:17,684 --> 00:06:19,886 because, um, as I summed it up: 138 00:06:19,952 --> 00:06:21,921 "It was just robots with top hats." 139 00:06:21,988 --> 00:06:24,857 And I think I had already become tired of the tropes 140 00:06:24,924 --> 00:06:26,826 that I would later associate with steampunk. 141 00:06:26,893 --> 00:06:30,897 But then I met like-minded artists and craftspeople 142 00:06:30,963 --> 00:06:33,532 and I realized that the only way 143 00:06:33,599 --> 00:06:35,534 that subculture is going to improve 144 00:06:35,601 --> 00:06:37,103 would be if we participated in it. 145 00:06:37,369 --> 00:06:39,071 {\an8}We did Burning Man in 2008 146 00:06:39,138 --> 00:06:41,607 {\an8}and we discovered this {\an8}whole steampunk thing. 147 00:06:41,708 --> 00:06:44,510 {\an8}I come upon this Victorian {\an8}house on wheels 148 00:06:44,576 --> 00:06:46,012 {\an8}and this entire camp of people 149 00:06:46,078 --> 00:06:48,848 {\an8}dressed up like they came {\an8}out of the 1890s, 150 00:06:49,115 --> 00:06:50,817 {\an8}and it just seemed like {\an8}a nice transition 151 00:06:50,883 --> 00:06:53,285 {\an8}from one subculture {\an8}to another subculture. 152 00:06:53,352 --> 00:06:56,989 {\an8}My husband was into {\an8}neo-Victorian things and goth, 153 00:06:57,056 --> 00:06:59,225 {\an8}and I was a little bit into it. 154 00:06:59,291 --> 00:07:01,728 {\an8}I was mostly a huge {\an8}science fiction fan. 155 00:07:01,761 --> 00:07:03,062 So I started wearing steampunk 156 00:07:03,129 --> 00:07:05,297 to general science fiction conventions, 157 00:07:05,364 --> 00:07:07,734 and people would come up and go, "Oh, is that steampunk? 158 00:07:07,767 --> 00:07:09,501 I've heard of this. This is cool!" 159 00:07:09,568 --> 00:07:10,903 {\an8}Probably since the early '80s, 160 00:07:10,970 --> 00:07:12,638 {\an8}I've been wearing {\an8}bowler hats and vests, 161 00:07:12,739 --> 00:07:15,742 {\an8}and I've been making models of {\an8}airships and things like that, 162 00:07:15,808 --> 00:07:19,045 {\an8}but it wasn't until {\an8}a few years back 163 00:07:19,111 --> 00:07:21,848 {\an8}that I went to my first con 164 00:07:22,014 --> 00:07:23,649 and they had a big steampunk theme, 165 00:07:23,750 --> 00:07:25,384 and I thought, I like this, you know, 166 00:07:25,451 --> 00:07:28,554 and it's right up my alley, and, oh, look, it's got a name. 167 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:31,824 {\an8}We started a comic {\an8}quite a long time ago now, 168 00:07:31,891 --> 00:07:33,826 {\an8}and we called it {\an8}"gaslamp fantasy" 169 00:07:33,893 --> 00:07:36,362 {\an8}because we felt that {\an8}we didn't quite fit the mold 170 00:07:36,428 --> 00:07:38,497 {\an8}of what was out there {\an8}being called steampunk. 171 00:07:38,764 --> 00:07:40,466 So it was already in full swing 172 00:07:40,532 --> 00:07:42,902 by the time we found out about the whole subculture part of it, 173 00:07:42,969 --> 00:07:46,305 and it was a really cool surprise. 174 00:07:46,372 --> 00:07:48,174 Somebody said to me, "Oh, well, you should really 175 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,876 look into steampunk, 'cause I think you'd really 176 00:07:49,942 --> 00:07:51,210 like the aesthetic." 177 00:07:51,277 --> 00:07:53,012 {\an8}So I started hunting around {\an8}on the Internet, 178 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:54,914 {\an8}and it was a really wonderful {\an8}environment to share 179 00:07:54,981 --> 00:07:56,415 {\an8}and we started talking about {\an8}what would happen 180 00:07:56,482 --> 00:07:59,051 {\an8}if this became a subculture, {\an8}hypothetically? 181 00:07:59,318 --> 00:08:00,787 {\an8}I actually started {\an8}Steampunk Magazine 182 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:02,388 {\an8}in, essentially, {\an8}a cultural vacuum. 183 00:08:02,554 --> 00:08:05,191 {\an8}I was only aware of steampunk {\an8}in this very periphery way. 184 00:08:05,457 --> 00:08:07,393 {\an8}And what I found right away was {\an8}that there was actually already 185 00:08:07,459 --> 00:08:09,661 {\an8}a small and growing community {\an8}around steampunk. 186 00:08:09,996 --> 00:08:11,798 {\an8}To me, the fun part {\an8}was the punk part. 187 00:08:11,831 --> 00:08:16,502 {\an8}I like the idea of taking {\an8}history and just twisting it. 188 00:08:16,768 --> 00:08:18,905 {\an8}It has a pleasingly {\an8}counterculture aspect to it, 189 00:08:18,971 --> 00:08:21,407 {\an8}but it's not the kind of {\an8}angry, antagonistic 190 00:08:21,473 --> 00:08:23,709 {\an8}kind of counterculture {\an8}which you often see 191 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:25,144 {\an8}in the original punk movements. 192 00:08:25,411 --> 00:08:26,813 {\an8}We can do this ourselves. 193 00:08:26,846 --> 00:08:28,314 {\an8}We don't need this {\an8}handed down to us. 194 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:32,952 {\an8}You know, the government {\an8}or culture, you know, writ large 195 00:08:33,019 --> 00:08:34,320 {\an8}has nothing for us. 196 00:08:34,386 --> 00:08:35,922 {\an8}We can go out and find it {\an8}ourselves. 197 00:08:35,988 --> 00:08:38,057 {\an8}You find a lot of artists {\an8}in the movement: 198 00:08:38,124 --> 00:08:41,360 {\an8}writers, musicians, makers... 199 00:08:41,627 --> 00:08:43,362 {\an8}What might bring all of these {\an8}people together, I think, 200 00:08:43,429 --> 00:08:47,834 {\an8}is a sense of theatricality {\an8}and of wanting to live 201 00:08:47,834 --> 00:08:49,568 {\an8}in a reality that's slightly {\an8}different. 202 00:08:49,635 --> 00:08:53,072 If you were the kid who took the light bulb out of your lamp, 203 00:08:53,139 --> 00:08:55,474 wet your finger, and stuck it in just to see what would happen, 204 00:08:55,541 --> 00:08:58,510 that kid's gonna go grow up to be a steampunk, if they survive. 205 00:08:58,777 --> 00:09:01,213 {\an8}We're not steampunks 'cause {\an8}there's something wrong with us. 206 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,850 {\an8}We're steampunks 'cause {\an8}our brains are exploding 207 00:09:03,883 --> 00:09:05,852 {\an8}from this plastic world {\an8}we've been put in. 208 00:09:05,918 --> 00:09:07,353 {\an8}That's why we're breakin' out. 209 00:09:07,419 --> 00:09:08,855 {\an8}It's not because there's {\an8}something wrong with us. 210 00:09:08,921 --> 00:09:11,123 {\an8}It's because we need to be more. 211 00:09:15,661 --> 00:09:18,364 {\an8}That was definitely {\an8}my gate to steampunk 212 00:09:18,430 --> 00:09:20,166 {\an8}was the literary genre. 213 00:09:20,232 --> 00:09:22,601 {\an8}I think a lot of things {\an8}came later 214 00:09:22,668 --> 00:09:25,771 {\an8}as it started to grow and expand {\an8}and include more things 215 00:09:25,872 --> 00:09:27,606 {\an8}or be expressed in more venues. 216 00:09:27,673 --> 00:09:31,277 {\an8}But for me it was that literary {\an8}gate that brought me in. 217 00:09:38,082 --> 00:09:39,952 {\an5}I'd picked up the novel {\an5}Infernal Devices by K.W. Jeter, 218 00:09:40,019 --> 00:09:41,653 {\an8}and at the time {\an8}it just struck me as 219 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,391 {\an8}here's a kind of alt history {\an8}version of science fiction. 220 00:09:45,657 --> 00:09:48,127 There was this half-satirical windup 221 00:09:48,194 --> 00:09:50,429 by the author in Locus magazine saying, 222 00:09:50,496 --> 00:09:52,064 "Hey, why don't we call this steampunk? 223 00:09:52,131 --> 00:09:53,699 Then we might get more attention for it." 224 00:09:53,765 --> 00:09:56,936 And, of course, it didn't really work out for him that way. 225 00:09:57,003 --> 00:09:58,905 The attention came 30 years later. 226 00:09:58,938 --> 00:10:00,539 {\an8}It was an exciting time {\an8}in science fiction. 227 00:10:00,606 --> 00:10:02,508 {\an8}In the '80s, there was a lot {\an8}of new stuff going on. 228 00:10:02,574 --> 00:10:05,111 {\an8}And I was a punk rocker {\an8}in the early '80s, 229 00:10:05,177 --> 00:10:07,980 {\an8}and so I tended to gravitate {\an8}actually more towards cyberpunk. 230 00:10:08,047 --> 00:10:09,515 {\an8}So I think the first {\an8}steampunk book 231 00:10:09,581 --> 00:10:11,884 {\an8}that I ever read was {\an8}The Difference Engine. 232 00:10:11,888 --> 00:10:13,918 {\an8}I was working in a bookstore when {\an8}The Difference Engine came out. 233 00:10:14,153 --> 00:10:16,188 {\an8}The cyberpunk novels {\an8}were very big. 234 00:10:16,255 --> 00:10:17,556 {\an8}William Gibson {\an8}and Bruce Sterling 235 00:10:17,623 --> 00:10:19,691 {\an8}were great towering giants {\an8}of the field, 236 00:10:19,758 --> 00:10:21,360 {\an8}and within the mainstream 237 00:10:21,427 --> 00:10:23,062 {\an8}of hardcore science fiction {\an8}readers, 238 00:10:23,129 --> 00:10:24,997 {\an8}all of a sudden everyone knew {\an8}what steampunk was. 239 00:10:25,064 --> 00:10:26,798 {\an8}One of the things {\an8}that most affected 240 00:10:26,865 --> 00:10:28,867 {\an8}writers of my generation {\an8}was the appearance 241 00:10:28,935 --> 00:10:31,037 {\an8}of the word processor {\an8}on the scene. 242 00:10:31,103 --> 00:10:33,872 {\an8}So, you know, I had {\an8}many discussions, 243 00:10:33,940 --> 00:10:35,641 {\an8}especially with William Gibson, 244 00:10:35,707 --> 00:10:39,445 {\an8}about what it was that this new {\an8}form of composition was doing 245 00:10:39,511 --> 00:10:42,148 {\an8}to the way words appeared {\an8}on the page. 246 00:10:42,214 --> 00:10:44,383 {\an8}In the world of {\an8}The Difference Engine, 247 00:10:44,450 --> 00:10:50,389 {\an8}scientists and engineers are {\an8}at the very peak of society. 248 00:10:50,656 --> 00:10:52,891 So we wrote this book, Difference Engine, 249 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:56,262 which was really a kind of study 250 00:10:56,328 --> 00:10:58,998 of the effect of computation on society, 251 00:10:59,065 --> 00:11:00,599 taking the effects of the world 252 00:11:00,666 --> 00:11:03,335 that we were seeing around ourselves in the 1980s 253 00:11:03,402 --> 00:11:06,672 and back-projecting them to an imaginary 1850s. 254 00:11:06,738 --> 00:11:12,411 It's a radical restructuring of history. 255 00:11:12,478 --> 00:11:17,183 We were trying to use the kind of cultural density of the past 256 00:11:17,249 --> 00:11:21,587 to make it clear to contemporary people 257 00:11:21,653 --> 00:11:25,424 what the stakes were of an industrial revolution. 258 00:11:25,591 --> 00:11:28,360 When I started thinking about Boneshaker, 259 00:11:28,427 --> 00:11:31,363 I grew up in the Southeast, where, let's be honest, 260 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:33,365 alternate theories of the Civil War 261 00:11:33,432 --> 00:11:35,301 are kind of a regional pastime. 262 00:11:35,667 --> 00:11:37,903 {\an8}And I went to the {\an8}University of Tennessee 263 00:11:38,004 --> 00:11:40,006 {\an8}for my graduate school work {\an8}in Chattanooga, 264 00:11:40,072 --> 00:11:42,274 {\an8}and you can go through {\an8}the old patent archives 265 00:11:42,541 --> 00:11:45,477 and find crazy, crazy patent submissions 266 00:11:45,544 --> 00:11:47,779 for machines that people wanted to make, 267 00:11:47,846 --> 00:11:50,382 and they were the most steampunk things I had ever seen, 268 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:52,551 and I thought "I would love to use these..." 269 00:11:52,918 --> 00:11:55,887 ... except they never happened, because they ran out of war. 270 00:11:56,022 --> 00:11:57,556 So it started there. 271 00:11:57,623 --> 00:11:59,458 I'm like, well, what if they didn't run out of war? 272 00:11:59,525 --> 00:12:02,361 Steampunk didn't seem to have a mythology 273 00:12:02,428 --> 00:12:04,830 to account for all of the minor tropes of it. 274 00:12:04,896 --> 00:12:07,433 It was kind of a collection of things that people wore. 275 00:12:07,499 --> 00:12:09,135 And I tried to make technology 276 00:12:09,201 --> 00:12:11,137 that was symptomatic of the place 277 00:12:11,203 --> 00:12:13,505 because I didn't want it to be gears on hats. 278 00:12:13,572 --> 00:12:15,207 I wanted these people to have things 279 00:12:15,274 --> 00:12:16,842 that were going to be practical to them 280 00:12:16,908 --> 00:12:18,844 in a very strange environment. 281 00:12:19,210 --> 00:12:22,114 {\an8}Certainly I didn't set out {\an8}to write steampunk, 282 00:12:22,181 --> 00:12:23,849 {\an8}but then I think probably {\an8}most people don't. 283 00:12:23,915 --> 00:12:26,852 {\an8}The fact that Perdido Street {\an8}Station came out in 2000 284 00:12:26,918 --> 00:12:28,354 {\an8}and was based around a world 285 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:31,157 {\an8}that had a very roughly {\an8}Victorian-era technology 286 00:12:31,223 --> 00:12:33,892 {\an8}is probably one of the things {\an8}that means 287 00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,595 {\an8}that it is put in that box, and {\an8}I have no problem about that. 288 00:12:36,862 --> 00:12:39,531 You know, your fiction does stuff that you intend it to do, 289 00:12:39,598 --> 00:12:41,333 that you don't intend it to do behind your back. 290 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,235 It does stuff differently for every single reader. 291 00:12:43,302 --> 00:12:45,471 If somebody decides this book pushed me 292 00:12:45,537 --> 00:12:47,873 into this field of steampunk that I absolutely love, 293 00:12:47,939 --> 00:12:50,942 then how can that be anything other than very flattering? 294 00:12:51,577 --> 00:12:53,779 I started writing this book, and I thought, 295 00:12:53,845 --> 00:12:55,781 oh, I kind of want to write an urban fantasy, 296 00:12:55,847 --> 00:12:57,849 but I really want something set historically. 297 00:12:57,916 --> 00:13:00,119 I'm more comfortable writing in the past. 298 00:13:00,186 --> 00:13:02,154 {\an8}And as I started to imagine 299 00:13:02,221 --> 00:13:04,923 {\an8}how Victorians and Victorian {\an8}scientists would react 300 00:13:04,990 --> 00:13:08,160 {\an8}to real supernatural creatures {\an8}in their time period, 301 00:13:08,227 --> 00:13:10,462 {\an8}I started coming up with {\an8}this alternative science, 302 00:13:11,129 --> 00:13:12,164 and it was while I was world building 303 00:13:12,231 --> 00:13:13,999 that I realized the books I was writing 304 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:15,567 were going to be steampunk books. 305 00:13:15,634 --> 00:13:19,371 And in my world, the steampunk element is the result 306 00:13:19,438 --> 00:13:21,340 of the incorporation of a supernatural element. 307 00:13:21,407 --> 00:13:23,709 So all of the laws of my universe 308 00:13:23,775 --> 00:13:27,113 have to be explained using Victorian science. 309 00:13:27,113 --> 00:13:29,115 {\an8}Boilerplate is a robot 310 00:13:29,181 --> 00:13:31,217 {\an8}who was invented in 1893. 311 00:13:31,283 --> 00:13:33,419 {\an8}"For the purpose of preventing {\an8}the deaths of men 312 00:13:33,485 --> 00:13:35,121 {\an8}"in the conflict of nations." 313 00:13:35,387 --> 00:13:36,788 Because Archie Campion has this idea 314 00:13:36,855 --> 00:13:39,358 that he can prevent humans from dying in battle. 315 00:13:39,425 --> 00:13:40,626 And then unveils them 316 00:13:40,692 --> 00:13:42,394 at the Chicago World's Fair in 1893. 317 00:13:42,461 --> 00:13:43,995 Archie takes Boilerplate all over the world 318 00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:45,464 to demonstrate him. 319 00:13:45,531 --> 00:13:49,235 He goes to the Klondike in the gold rush in Alaska. 320 00:13:49,301 --> 00:13:51,137 He's a beat cop in Chicago. 321 00:13:51,203 --> 00:13:53,805 He builds railroads across the Sudan in Africa. 322 00:13:53,872 --> 00:13:56,175 He's involved in the Philippine War. 323 00:13:56,242 --> 00:13:59,278 He fights in the Boxer Rebellion in China. 324 00:13:59,345 --> 00:14:00,712 He's in Australia 325 00:14:00,779 --> 00:14:02,848 at the birth of the Australian Commonwealth. 326 00:14:02,914 --> 00:14:04,383 Yes, the robot gets around. 327 00:14:04,450 --> 00:14:06,552 But it's all logistically possible. 328 00:14:06,618 --> 00:14:09,488 {\an8}Boilerplate has been my gateway {\an8}drug for steampunk for people. 329 00:14:09,555 --> 00:14:11,557 {\an8}Like, if they're like, {\an8}"I don't like it. 330 00:14:11,623 --> 00:14:15,161 {\an8}"It's just goggles and it's {\an8}just, you know, gears." 331 00:14:15,427 --> 00:14:16,695 And I just pull it off the shelf and I go, 332 00:14:16,762 --> 00:14:18,597 "Just browse through this for, like, 10 minutes." 333 00:14:18,664 --> 00:14:20,432 And they're immediately sucked in 334 00:14:20,499 --> 00:14:22,334 because it's so based and grounded in something 335 00:14:22,401 --> 00:14:24,069 that they can understand. 336 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:25,871 And that's how I conceived Boilerplate, 337 00:14:25,937 --> 00:14:28,407 as really an excuse to share historical stories 338 00:14:28,474 --> 00:14:30,176 that I thought were really important 339 00:14:30,176 --> 00:14:31,710 that people should know about 340 00:14:31,777 --> 00:14:35,281 and that were relevant to what's going on today. 341 00:14:36,615 --> 00:14:38,884 History builds humanity. 342 00:14:38,950 --> 00:14:40,352 Part of what makes us human 343 00:14:40,419 --> 00:14:42,354 is the stories that we tell ourselves. 344 00:14:42,421 --> 00:14:44,823 The future and the past were more interesting places 345 00:14:44,890 --> 00:14:46,392 for me to escape to 346 00:14:46,458 --> 00:14:48,327 because I lived in the contemporary world. 347 00:14:48,394 --> 00:14:50,629 That was boring. I wanted to be transported. 348 00:14:50,696 --> 00:14:53,365 I realized that the Victorian era is the birth of modernity. 349 00:14:53,432 --> 00:14:56,368 From the large things like airplanes and telephones 350 00:14:56,435 --> 00:14:58,370 to the everyday things we take for granted. 351 00:14:58,437 --> 00:15:00,906 You go back to the late 1800s, we have mass media... 352 00:15:00,972 --> 00:15:02,574 Food safety legislation... 353 00:15:02,641 --> 00:15:04,376 Various people demanding their rights 354 00:15:04,443 --> 00:15:06,512 that hadn't been demanding their rights previously. 355 00:15:06,578 --> 00:15:08,046 Women having the right to vote. 356 00:15:08,113 --> 00:15:11,016 Concerns about what technology was going to do to us. 357 00:15:11,082 --> 00:15:12,484 The eight-hour day. 358 00:15:12,551 --> 00:15:14,453 And I felt that was very important to share with people. 359 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,988 History has some of the richest and most exciting 360 00:15:17,055 --> 00:15:18,690 and most absorbing stories, 361 00:15:18,757 --> 00:15:22,228 and you can mine them as a storyteller 362 00:15:22,261 --> 00:15:24,296 and swing them and sway them and take battles 363 00:15:24,363 --> 00:15:26,031 and rewrite them and put them into space. 364 00:15:26,097 --> 00:15:30,135 I mean, there's so many things you can do if you know history. 365 00:15:30,436 --> 00:15:31,970 {\an8}And there's so many {\an8}things back then 366 00:15:32,037 --> 00:15:34,240 {\an8}around the world {\an8}that are way cooler 367 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,074 {\an8}than anything we come {\an8}up with in steampunk, 368 00:15:36,141 --> 00:15:38,910 {\an8}and so it's really neat to just {\an8}look at the technology back then 369 00:15:38,977 --> 00:15:41,313 {\an8}and build upon it, look at the {\an8}costuming around the world 370 00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:43,014 {\an8}back then and build upon it. 371 00:15:43,081 --> 00:15:47,719 We're able to pull music and voices and images 372 00:15:47,786 --> 00:15:52,258 and all sorts of things out of an increasingly deep past, 373 00:15:52,324 --> 00:15:54,260 and we take it for granted. 374 00:15:54,293 --> 00:15:55,694 If you do nothing else, 375 00:15:55,761 --> 00:15:57,396 go and sit with your grandparents and say, you know, 376 00:15:57,463 --> 00:15:58,797 "Hey, tell me about World War 2." 377 00:15:58,864 --> 00:16:00,366 I sat down on the couch with my dad, 378 00:16:00,432 --> 00:16:01,967 who was in the Korean War, and I was like, 379 00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:05,170 "Tell me a little bit about what you were doing there." 380 00:16:05,271 --> 00:16:07,273 And he told me this story of testing 381 00:16:07,273 --> 00:16:09,675 these huge sort of skyrail trains, 382 00:16:09,741 --> 00:16:11,743 and his job was to crash them. 383 00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:13,779 There's a scene in Blameless 384 00:16:13,845 --> 00:16:17,015 where these huge skyrail steam-powered trains show up, 385 00:16:17,082 --> 00:16:19,818 and they're stolen directly from his stories. 386 00:16:19,885 --> 00:16:22,187 And so we're kind of combing the Victorians 387 00:16:22,288 --> 00:16:25,491 to see the things that we like and the things that still work. 388 00:16:25,557 --> 00:16:27,493 And use this as kind of 389 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:29,728 our artist's palette from which we draw. 390 00:16:29,995 --> 00:16:33,299 {\an8}It forces you to look back {\an8}in order to look forward. 391 00:16:33,332 --> 00:16:36,302 {\an8}When you are capable of seeing {\an8}that connection, 392 00:16:36,302 --> 00:16:39,305 {\an8}then you kind of like see the {\an8}threads and how to unravel them 393 00:16:39,305 --> 00:16:41,340 {\an8}in order to kind of {\an8}rethread them 394 00:16:41,407 --> 00:16:44,576 {\an8}so that we can create something {\an8}better for the future. 395 00:16:44,843 --> 00:16:49,848 It creates the past that tells the story of who we want to be. 396 00:17:01,526 --> 00:17:03,061 When I started off designing clothes, 397 00:17:03,128 --> 00:17:04,363 I'd never heard of steampunk. 398 00:17:04,430 --> 00:17:05,964 I actually got into doing clothing 399 00:17:06,031 --> 00:17:08,534 because I'm fascinated by storytelling and narrative 400 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,436 as a way of understanding human psychology. 401 00:17:10,502 --> 00:17:11,937 {\an8}I'll just costume {\an8}myself at home 402 00:17:12,003 --> 00:17:14,340 {\an8}because it improves my enjoyment {\an8}of whatever I'm doing. 403 00:17:14,373 --> 00:17:16,942 {\an8}I change clothes to sew stuff, {\an8}I change clothes to cook eggs. 404 00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,711 And I think it's what I really enjoy about the steampunk scene 405 00:17:19,778 --> 00:17:22,013 is that it's, everyone's so interested in telling stories. 406 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,784 If you had known steampunk 30-odd years ago, 407 00:17:25,851 --> 00:17:27,819 you would've seen that it would be in my future 408 00:17:27,886 --> 00:17:30,889 because I was always fascinated by BBC costume dramas. 409 00:17:30,956 --> 00:17:32,658 Even if I didn't understand what was going on, 410 00:17:32,724 --> 00:17:34,460 I could just watch those dresses. 411 00:17:34,526 --> 00:17:36,261 I remember one of my first Halloween costumes 412 00:17:36,362 --> 00:17:38,029 was turning a hula hoop into a hoop skirt. 413 00:17:38,096 --> 00:17:39,431 It didn't exactly work, 414 00:17:39,498 --> 00:17:41,132 but, uh, that was one of the first things I did. 415 00:17:41,199 --> 00:17:42,668 At the start of it, I don't think people really thought 416 00:17:42,734 --> 00:17:44,202 it was much of a movement. 417 00:17:44,269 --> 00:17:45,504 It seemed just like period cosplay. 418 00:17:45,571 --> 00:17:48,740 Cosplay is short for costume play. 419 00:17:48,807 --> 00:17:53,412 It's an important part of the culture of comics conventions 420 00:17:53,479 --> 00:17:59,184 and it's become an activity quite fantastically unto itself. 421 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:02,020 As an artist, you start out imitating somebody. 422 00:18:02,087 --> 00:18:06,191 So cosplayers, I'm sure, began making costumes 423 00:18:06,257 --> 00:18:10,095 based on their favorite movie, literary character, TV show. 424 00:18:10,161 --> 00:18:13,499 But at some point you want to go beyond the out of the box, 425 00:18:13,565 --> 00:18:15,434 and I think that's much more satisfying: 426 00:18:15,501 --> 00:18:18,203 "Oh, I'm tired of Star Wars. I'm gonna try this instead." 427 00:18:18,269 --> 00:18:20,105 Which is not to say that we don't want people 428 00:18:20,171 --> 00:18:22,173 to dress up as Boilerplate in the future, 429 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,709 because we totally do. 430 00:18:23,775 --> 00:18:25,176 It actually surprises me 431 00:18:25,243 --> 00:18:27,413 how many people who I would consider introverts 432 00:18:27,446 --> 00:18:29,415 or really shy actually feel comfortable 433 00:18:29,415 --> 00:18:31,049 coming out and wearing costumes. 434 00:18:31,116 --> 00:18:33,419 I think in a way you're not presenting yourself, 435 00:18:33,485 --> 00:18:37,088 and so I'll find people who are normally so quiet and so shy 436 00:18:37,155 --> 00:18:40,726 just become exuberant when they put themselves behind a mask 437 00:18:40,792 --> 00:18:43,729 and can kinda wear that new identity. 438 00:18:43,795 --> 00:18:45,931 {\an8}I was really just {\an8}t-shirt and jeans 439 00:18:45,997 --> 00:18:47,933 {\an8}unless I had to wear something, {\an8}like going to work 440 00:18:47,999 --> 00:18:50,802 {\an8}and I had to dress up {\an8}and, God forbid, wear a tie. 441 00:18:51,069 --> 00:18:53,705 When steampunk came along, it was like, I get to dress up 442 00:18:53,772 --> 00:18:56,442 and I get to wear really fancy clothes all the time. 443 00:18:56,475 --> 00:18:58,844 So this coat I had made specifically 444 00:18:58,910 --> 00:19:02,147 as my Airship Ambassador coat and my uniform. 445 00:19:02,213 --> 00:19:05,350 So I'll wear that when I'm kind of in that role. 446 00:19:05,451 --> 00:19:09,054 My first big steampunk costume that I made 447 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,457 was the khaki gown that I have. 448 00:19:11,523 --> 00:19:13,024 Originally, it was a volcanologist 449 00:19:13,091 --> 00:19:15,727 just because I really liked volcanoes, 450 00:19:15,794 --> 00:19:18,196 but I also absolutely love ancient Egypt 451 00:19:18,263 --> 00:19:19,998 and Victorian Egyptomania. 452 00:19:20,065 --> 00:19:22,934 That's when it became sort of a mummy hunting costume. 453 00:19:23,001 --> 00:19:25,036 And so it was very much that same idea 454 00:19:25,103 --> 00:19:26,705 of taking something I love 455 00:19:26,772 --> 00:19:28,774 and finding a way to twist it into a character 456 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,942 and a more badass version of myself. 457 00:19:31,009 --> 00:19:33,912 {\an8}The two things I wanted to be {\an8}when I was growing up 458 00:19:33,979 --> 00:19:36,214 {\an8}were an astronaut {\an8}and an inventor. 459 00:19:36,281 --> 00:19:37,849 {\an8}And I have, like, Trapper Keepers 460 00:19:37,916 --> 00:19:40,519 {\an8}filled with, like, illustrated {\an8}inventions that I made, 461 00:19:40,586 --> 00:19:42,554 {\an8}and I had, I mean, 462 00:19:42,621 --> 00:19:45,724 {\an8}just delightfully ridiculous {\an8}kid inventions. 463 00:19:45,991 --> 00:19:49,260 And, in particular, I designed a flying costume. 464 00:19:49,327 --> 00:19:51,663 It was a suit made out of ripstop parachute nylon 465 00:19:51,730 --> 00:19:53,031 that was flameproof. 466 00:19:53,098 --> 00:19:55,100 It had copper tubes that ran through it 467 00:19:55,166 --> 00:19:57,168 that you could attach propane torches to 468 00:19:57,235 --> 00:19:59,505 which would inflate the hot air inside the suit 469 00:19:59,538 --> 00:20:01,139 that would make you neutrally buoyant 470 00:20:01,206 --> 00:20:03,509 so you would lift up with the suit and the wings 471 00:20:03,542 --> 00:20:05,844 and then you could glide back down. 472 00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,813 And I hadn't made the connection until my parents came in 473 00:20:07,879 --> 00:20:09,615 and said, "Oh, you finally made your flying suit." 474 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:11,149 Being able to say 475 00:20:11,216 --> 00:20:13,218 you're the hero of your own life, of your own story, 476 00:20:13,284 --> 00:20:16,054 and so I will take this one thing I've always aspired to do 477 00:20:16,121 --> 00:20:19,424 and make a costume around it, is pretty great. 478 00:20:19,491 --> 00:20:22,561 And then it's just fun to filter that through Victoriana. 479 00:20:22,628 --> 00:20:25,931 {\an8}When I discovered that {\an8}I could do steampunk costuming, 480 00:20:26,197 --> 00:20:27,966 {\an8}people would come up to me {\an8}and say, "What's that from?" 481 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,936 And I could say, "That's from my imagination." 482 00:20:31,002 --> 00:20:33,171 And they'd go, "You can do that?" 483 00:20:33,238 --> 00:20:36,241 And it was infectious, it was lovely. 484 00:20:36,307 --> 00:20:38,276 Every chance I could wear a costume, 485 00:20:38,343 --> 00:20:39,745 I wore a costume as a kid 486 00:20:39,811 --> 00:20:42,080 because I'm a clown all the time. 487 00:20:42,147 --> 00:20:47,653 {\an8}The idea of being able to dress {\an8}in the style and be a goon, 488 00:20:47,719 --> 00:20:52,991 {\an8}play a character, I'm free, {\an8}free to do as I see fit. 489 00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:56,662 I was a Civil War reenactor when I was 16-17. 490 00:20:56,728 --> 00:20:58,463 It's part of how I got into history. 491 00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:00,198 So some of my steampunk clothes 492 00:21:00,265 --> 00:21:03,068 are actually my Civil War reenactment uniform. 493 00:21:03,134 --> 00:21:05,871 I've worn waistcoats and a pocket watch for years, right? 494 00:21:05,937 --> 00:21:07,238 I've just all of a sudden found 495 00:21:07,305 --> 00:21:09,074 a whole bunch of other people who do that. 496 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:10,441 {\an8}Believe this or not, {\an8}this is essentially 497 00:21:10,508 --> 00:21:11,843 {\an8}most of my everyday clothes. 498 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,411 {\an8}I looked at that {\an8}time period and thought, 499 00:21:13,478 --> 00:21:15,113 {\an8}"That is nice, good and proper." 500 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:17,015 {\an8}In a way, for me it was {\an8}kind of my rebellion 501 00:21:17,082 --> 00:21:19,718 {\an8}against the, like, "You must {\an8}show more and more skin," 502 00:21:19,785 --> 00:21:21,820 {\an8}and I was like, {\an8}"No, I don't want to." 503 00:21:22,087 --> 00:21:23,755 {\an8}And I thought, {\an8}"Well, I'll just go back 504 00:21:23,822 --> 00:21:26,091 {\an8}to that period of modesty." 505 00:21:26,157 --> 00:21:29,327 {\an8}When I stepped really into the {\an8}steampunk style as a costumer, 506 00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:31,096 {\an8}I left my edges unfinished 507 00:21:31,362 --> 00:21:34,099 {\an8}and I started trying to play {\an8}with torn fabric. 508 00:21:34,365 --> 00:21:37,202 The function turns inside out, so that you see the function 509 00:21:37,268 --> 00:21:38,970 and the form side by side. 510 00:21:39,037 --> 00:21:42,273 Here is a previous corset that I have made. 511 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,210 The idea is that it has this busk that buckles up the front 512 00:21:45,276 --> 00:21:47,378 and then you lace it closed in the back. 513 00:21:47,445 --> 00:21:50,281 You could probably take a bullet in a well-made corset. 514 00:21:50,348 --> 00:21:53,218 It'd just have to be a very specifically-aimed bullet. 515 00:21:53,584 --> 00:21:56,387 {\an8}Goggles are sort of -- {\an8}have become sort of the symbol 516 00:21:56,454 --> 00:21:58,089 {\an8}of steampunk for {\an8}a lot of people. 517 00:21:58,156 --> 00:22:00,659 Do you know the steampunk salute, sir? 518 00:22:00,726 --> 00:22:02,427 Nice goggles. 519 00:22:04,162 --> 00:22:06,231 When somebody is ready to spend 520 00:22:06,297 --> 00:22:09,967 what I charge for these, they're in. 521 00:22:11,536 --> 00:22:13,438 It's kind of a badge of belonging in a way, 522 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:17,075 and I enjoy watching people make that transition, too. 523 00:22:17,142 --> 00:22:18,877 When you put something on 524 00:22:18,944 --> 00:22:21,847 that makes you feel really good about yourself, 525 00:22:21,913 --> 00:22:24,015 you are good, you are better. 526 00:22:24,082 --> 00:22:26,551 I wanna make people feel so good about themselves 527 00:22:26,652 --> 00:22:28,654 because of what they're wearing, because it was made for them, 528 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,956 it fits them, they can have that confidence 529 00:22:31,022 --> 00:22:34,192 to step out into the world and be better people. 530 00:22:34,259 --> 00:22:37,362 What I'm hoping costuming will go towards 531 00:22:37,428 --> 00:22:39,765 is being able to make our own clothes again, 532 00:22:39,831 --> 00:22:41,833 make clothes that fit us 533 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,202 rather than we have to fit the clothes, 534 00:22:44,269 --> 00:22:46,104 and having it last, 535 00:22:46,171 --> 00:22:49,507 which will totally put textile workers 536 00:22:49,574 --> 00:22:52,010 out of jobs, but... 537 00:22:52,477 --> 00:22:53,679 In this day-to-day world 538 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:56,848 where everything is ready-made, we frequently feel inferior 539 00:22:56,915 --> 00:22:58,516 because, "Oh, our clothes don't fit," 540 00:22:58,583 --> 00:23:01,452 and, "Oh, it's not quite right," and "It must be my fault." 541 00:23:01,719 --> 00:23:04,222 But I really feel strongly that it's my fault 542 00:23:04,289 --> 00:23:06,491 as a designer if the clothes don't fit. 543 00:23:06,557 --> 00:23:07,959 So my purpose here on Earth 544 00:23:08,026 --> 00:23:11,129 is to make people feel better about themselves 545 00:23:11,196 --> 00:23:13,231 through the clothes that I make for them. 546 00:23:13,498 --> 00:23:16,001 {\an8}I've been into, you know, {\an8}frilly costumes 547 00:23:16,067 --> 00:23:18,003 {\an8}since I was a tiny child. 548 00:23:18,069 --> 00:23:22,473 {\an8}And when I was a teenager, {\an8}I got into goth fashion 549 00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:24,275 {\an8}and I wore corsets 550 00:23:24,542 --> 00:23:27,012 and did a lot of different styles within goth, 551 00:23:27,078 --> 00:23:30,048 but the new Victoriana was definitely a thing. 552 00:23:35,186 --> 00:23:37,522 The dress-up aesthetic definitely appeals to me 553 00:23:37,588 --> 00:23:40,291 and also science fiction has always appealed to me 554 00:23:40,358 --> 00:23:41,500 since I was really little. 555 00:23:42,627 --> 00:23:44,763 This song is called "The Heroine." 556 00:23:51,602 --> 00:23:53,638 My name is Erica Griffin Mulkey. 557 00:23:53,739 --> 00:23:55,774 I perform as Unwoman. 558 00:23:58,576 --> 00:24:01,847 * The city is war-torn 559 00:24:01,913 --> 00:24:04,783 * And nearly impassable 560 00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:07,318 * I act the lovelorn 561 00:24:07,385 --> 00:24:09,755 With steampunk, I can be in a corset and tons of makeup 562 00:24:09,755 --> 00:24:12,290 and have ridiculous huge hats on. 563 00:24:12,357 --> 00:24:15,794 It's extremely empowering, and I just rock it. 564 00:24:15,861 --> 00:24:17,996 It just makes me bigger than life. 565 00:24:18,063 --> 00:24:20,498 * Now it's closing night * 566 00:24:20,565 --> 00:24:23,802 * And you can't be found * 567 00:24:23,869 --> 00:24:29,307 * Go through the motions again and again * 568 00:24:29,374 --> 00:24:35,180 * But you are not here to see them * 569 00:24:35,246 --> 00:24:37,916 I didn't think of myself as a steampunk performer 570 00:24:37,983 --> 00:24:41,286 until 2009, which is when Jordan from Sepiachord 571 00:24:41,352 --> 00:24:44,055 had me come up and play the first Steamcon. 572 00:24:44,122 --> 00:24:47,425 * ...actually feel them 573 00:24:49,995 --> 00:24:51,596 {\an8}With Sepiachord talking {\an8}about music, my idea was 574 00:24:51,662 --> 00:24:54,299 {\an8}I didn't want culture {\an8}handed down to me anymore. 575 00:24:54,365 --> 00:24:57,803 {\an8}I wanted to give it back {\an8}and give it out. 576 00:24:57,869 --> 00:25:00,205 And it went so well and I fit in so well, 577 00:25:00,271 --> 00:25:02,240 it became a thing that I pursued and I started writing 578 00:25:02,307 --> 00:25:05,476 to other conventions and saying, "Hey, I want to play for you. 579 00:25:05,543 --> 00:25:07,245 "I think people will like me." 580 00:25:07,312 --> 00:25:10,816 And I've turned that into, you know, my job. 581 00:25:10,882 --> 00:25:13,819 * That was my best poker face 582 00:25:13,819 --> 00:25:16,021 * Trying not to care 583 00:25:16,087 --> 00:25:18,623 * I watch and I wait 584 00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:22,527 * While you never appear 585 00:25:27,899 --> 00:25:31,202 {\an8}Ladies and gentlemen, welcome {\an8}to the Abney Park show. 586 00:25:34,005 --> 00:25:36,041 {\an8}Steampunk I discovered in 2008, 587 00:25:36,107 --> 00:25:39,244 {\an8}when I saw Abney Park {\an8}in concert for the first time. 588 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:40,879 If anybody's heard of steampunk at all, 589 00:25:40,946 --> 00:25:42,613 they will have heard of Abney Park. 590 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,282 * I made my own machine 591 00:25:44,349 --> 00:25:46,084 * Yes, we're building steam * 592 00:25:46,151 --> 00:25:49,187 * I hate the same routine 593 00:25:49,454 --> 00:25:50,889 I love playing with Abney Park. 594 00:25:50,956 --> 00:25:53,324 They put on a fantastic live show. They're full of energy. 595 00:25:53,591 --> 00:25:56,527 {\an8}We've got a new album that's {\an8}coming out in about a month, 596 00:25:56,594 --> 00:25:58,263 {\an8}and that's our 11th album. 597 00:25:58,329 --> 00:26:00,465 {\an8}We've been doing it {\an8}for 22 years. 598 00:26:00,731 --> 00:26:03,969 * 'Cause I'm a Victorian vigilante * 599 00:26:04,035 --> 00:26:06,204 * Bring some justice on your head * 600 00:26:06,271 --> 00:26:08,206 * From the palace to the riverside * 601 00:26:08,273 --> 00:26:09,908 * For your troubles you'll get bled * 602 00:26:09,975 --> 00:26:12,143 I don't want to write the same song over and over again. 603 00:26:12,210 --> 00:26:14,545 I don't want to write the same album over and over again. 604 00:26:14,612 --> 00:26:16,114 * Here we come, on the run 605 00:26:16,181 --> 00:26:18,083 * Our coal fires are burning 606 00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:20,085 * Here we come, fife and drum 607 00:26:20,151 --> 00:26:22,020 * Propellers in the dawn 608 00:26:22,087 --> 00:26:24,122 * Here we come, on the run 609 00:26:24,189 --> 00:26:26,124 * Our coal fires are burning 610 00:26:26,191 --> 00:26:28,059 * Here we come, fife and drum 611 00:26:28,126 --> 00:26:31,329 * Under the radar, we crept on 612 00:26:31,596 --> 00:26:33,364 {\an8}Abney Park takes place {\an8}within its own world 613 00:26:33,431 --> 00:26:35,433 {\an8}outside of the context {\an8}of history. 614 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,368 To continue to look back into history 615 00:26:37,435 --> 00:26:39,905 and then pull that stuff into what we're doing, 616 00:26:39,938 --> 00:26:42,640 I think that's the fun exploration. 617 00:26:48,679 --> 00:26:52,017 I do have some parameters about what makes music steampunk, 618 00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:53,651 but it's pretty wide open. 619 00:26:53,718 --> 00:26:57,555 I feel like almost every genre of music can be steampunk 620 00:26:57,622 --> 00:26:59,757 if there are elements of the old and the new. 621 00:26:59,824 --> 00:27:01,359 I don't necessarily want to say 622 00:27:01,426 --> 00:27:04,262 that an indie rock band that throws a cello in is steampunk, 623 00:27:04,329 --> 00:27:06,197 although I'll probably play in your band if you ask me to. 624 00:27:06,264 --> 00:27:08,266 When I first started thinking about what is steampunk music, 625 00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,101 I thought, "probably music that's of the era 626 00:27:10,168 --> 00:27:11,336 "that's also innovative, 627 00:27:11,402 --> 00:27:13,438 "and in that regard, not of the era." 628 00:27:13,504 --> 00:27:15,206 Like neo-cabaret, one might say. 629 00:27:15,273 --> 00:27:17,475 I would love to see more bands 630 00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:21,412 working with historical sounds and music and styles. 631 00:27:21,479 --> 00:27:24,415 And I think that's where... I find that more charming 632 00:27:24,482 --> 00:27:26,851 when the punking is less in the style of music 633 00:27:26,952 --> 00:27:28,453 and more in the lyrics. 634 00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,856 * The city is war-torn 635 00:27:31,957 --> 00:27:34,993 * And nearly impassable 636 00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:38,596 * I act the lovelorn 637 00:27:38,663 --> 00:27:44,502 * I used to be laughable * 638 00:28:00,685 --> 00:28:01,852 When you're dealing with the Victorians 639 00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:03,221 and their optimism for the future 640 00:28:03,288 --> 00:28:04,722 and their excitement for the future, 641 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:06,724 they didn't mean for everybody, they meant for us, 642 00:28:06,791 --> 00:28:08,059 for us right now, 643 00:28:08,126 --> 00:28:09,760 and we're not really paying attention 644 00:28:09,827 --> 00:28:12,430 to all those little people over there doing those little things. 645 00:28:12,697 --> 00:28:15,233 {\an8}I am not a Victorian {\an8}re-creationalist. 646 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,168 {\an8}I am... I'm a steampunk. 647 00:28:17,235 --> 00:28:20,005 {\an8}I think that the {\an8}19th century was bollocks. 648 00:28:20,305 --> 00:28:23,300 Victorian London, as, you know, full of beautiful, clanking machines, 649 00:28:23,308 --> 00:28:25,510 was built on systems of massive 650 00:28:25,576 --> 00:28:28,179 and brutal exploitation around the world. 651 00:28:28,446 --> 00:28:30,481 There was not a lot of beauty in Victorian England. 652 00:28:30,548 --> 00:28:32,283 I mean, we see the beautiful things 653 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:34,085 because they're some of the things that survived, 654 00:28:34,152 --> 00:28:36,321 but there was also a lot of poverty 655 00:28:36,387 --> 00:28:39,324 and horrible living conditions and unpleasant parts. 656 00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:41,126 People were intolerant of gays. 657 00:28:41,192 --> 00:28:42,793 People were sexist. 658 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:44,062 People were racist. 659 00:28:44,129 --> 00:28:45,530 There was rampant colonialism. 660 00:28:45,596 --> 00:28:48,033 There was abuse of the workforce. 661 00:28:48,734 --> 00:28:51,302 {\an8}It was awful. There is something {\an8}frankly quite troublesome 662 00:28:51,369 --> 00:28:54,572 {\an8}about the fact that {\an8}what is being eulogized here, 663 00:28:54,639 --> 00:28:58,043 {\an8}in a sometimes very winning {\an8}and very wonderful way, 664 00:28:58,109 --> 00:29:00,945 {\an8}is an era of bestial oppression. 665 00:29:01,046 --> 00:29:03,648 {\an8}I would say that steampunk needs to look {\an8}at itself in the mirror a little bit. 666 00:29:04,014 --> 00:29:06,651 {\an8}My first hints that {\an8}steampunk as it existed 667 00:29:06,717 --> 00:29:08,753 {\an8}might not be for me {\an8}was when I put out a call 668 00:29:08,819 --> 00:29:11,056 for contributions to Steampunk Magazine 669 00:29:11,122 --> 00:29:13,358 looking for pro-feminist anti-colonial work. 670 00:29:13,424 --> 00:29:15,726 One of the best comments, "best comments" I found 671 00:29:15,793 --> 00:29:19,164 was someone saying, "How can you call yourself steampunk 672 00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:20,765 "and be anti-colonial?" 673 00:29:20,831 --> 00:29:24,369 And this, of course, to me, it was, uh, it caught me by surprise. 674 00:29:24,435 --> 00:29:26,737 You know, as I say it, I looked around 675 00:29:26,804 --> 00:29:29,107 and was like, "Aw man, am I in the right room?" 676 00:29:29,174 --> 00:29:33,678 {\an8}I was put on a steampunk panel, 677 00:29:33,744 --> 00:29:39,384 {\an8}which made me wonder {\an8}why I didn't like steampunk, 678 00:29:39,450 --> 00:29:42,620 {\an8}what's wrong with steampunk, {\an8}because I should. 679 00:29:42,887 --> 00:29:46,891 Most of what I saw currently as steampunk 680 00:29:46,957 --> 00:29:50,395 seemed really colonialist. 681 00:29:50,661 --> 00:29:52,497 {\an8}Yeah, it's a form of escapism, 682 00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:55,866 {\an8}but we still carry with us {\an8}kind of like ideas 683 00:29:55,933 --> 00:29:59,537 {\an8}and prejudices and stereotypes {\an8}from a larger culture. 684 00:29:59,604 --> 00:30:01,772 Now, if you depict a fantasticated version 685 00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:05,543 of a society, and you write out the relations of oppression 686 00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:08,313 and what... you know, something is going on there 687 00:30:08,379 --> 00:30:09,814 in just the same way as it would 688 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,649 if you wrote a utopia about white South Africa 689 00:30:11,716 --> 00:30:13,884 in which there were no black people during the '80s. 690 00:30:13,951 --> 00:30:16,187 You're doing something whether or not you intend to. 691 00:30:16,254 --> 00:30:17,922 Immediately when you think adventure, 692 00:30:17,988 --> 00:30:21,459 I'm just thinking of those people in the pith helmets. 693 00:30:24,395 --> 00:30:26,264 {\an8}Pith helmets are {\an8}obviously imagery 694 00:30:26,331 --> 00:30:29,700 {\an8}from British occupation {\an8}and the Zulu wars. 695 00:30:29,767 --> 00:30:32,737 There was oppression, there was bigotry, 696 00:30:32,803 --> 00:30:35,540 but that's a story for another time. 697 00:30:35,606 --> 00:30:37,942 We're reinventing history and making it fun and positive. 698 00:30:38,008 --> 00:30:41,212 That's not what I think of when I think of positive. 699 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:42,647 I'm sorry. 700 00:30:42,713 --> 00:30:45,383 I have a totally different perspective on that one. 701 00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:46,851 There's so many options out there 702 00:30:46,917 --> 00:30:49,420 that don't draw from that painful imagery. 703 00:30:49,487 --> 00:30:51,422 I feel like these things can be reclaimed, 704 00:30:51,489 --> 00:30:53,358 but I don't necessarily think it's my place 705 00:30:53,424 --> 00:30:55,726 as a privileged white woman to reclaim them. 706 00:30:55,893 --> 00:30:57,995 So I actually haven't worn my pith helmet in a while. 707 00:30:58,062 --> 00:31:01,098 I've switched over to... I have a National Park Ranger hat. 708 00:31:01,366 --> 00:31:03,701 {\an8}It's really kind of difficult {\an8}sometimes to get people 709 00:31:03,768 --> 00:31:06,437 {\an8}out of that comfort zone {\an8}and say, "Okay, let's talk 710 00:31:06,504 --> 00:31:08,839 {\an8}about the social ramifications {\an8}of what you're doing, 711 00:31:08,906 --> 00:31:11,542 {\an8}or the political ramifications, {\an8}or what you're saying 712 00:31:11,609 --> 00:31:14,545 {\an8}about gender when you do {\an8}what you do." 713 00:31:14,812 --> 00:31:16,281 A lot of people would look at me and go, 714 00:31:16,347 --> 00:31:18,583 "You're crazy. This is fantasy. This is fun." 715 00:31:18,649 --> 00:31:21,386 And I think that unfortunate disconnect from reality 716 00:31:21,452 --> 00:31:24,021 is what kills a lot of really interesting 717 00:31:24,088 --> 00:31:25,756 and exciting artistic movements. 718 00:31:26,023 --> 00:31:27,892 A lot of people think that it's total killjoy 719 00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:31,529 for people to go around pointing people out 720 00:31:31,596 --> 00:31:33,298 and saying that things are offensive, 721 00:31:33,364 --> 00:31:36,701 but if it means more people join this subculture 722 00:31:36,767 --> 00:31:38,936 and feel more comfortable and welcome, 723 00:31:39,003 --> 00:31:40,571 because it's still 724 00:31:40,638 --> 00:31:43,741 very middle-class white Western subculture. 725 00:31:43,808 --> 00:31:47,878 What I want to urge people to do is look at the globe 726 00:31:47,945 --> 00:31:51,482 and look at all the opportunities for stories 727 00:31:51,549 --> 00:31:56,421 there are outside of this tiny island. 728 00:31:56,487 --> 00:31:58,789 As a reader who loves cool stuff 729 00:31:58,856 --> 00:32:01,592 and who is, frankly, kind of tired of steam engines 730 00:32:01,659 --> 00:32:04,329 but very open to being reenchanted by them, 731 00:32:04,395 --> 00:32:06,564 I love the idea of seeing queer steampunk, 732 00:32:06,631 --> 00:32:09,467 steampunk of color, anti-imperialist steampunk, 733 00:32:09,534 --> 00:32:12,237 altermondialiste steampunk, feminist steampunk, 734 00:32:12,237 --> 00:32:14,405 you know, surrealist steampunk, 735 00:32:14,472 --> 00:32:17,742 avant-garde steampunk, you know, punk punk steampunk. 736 00:32:17,808 --> 00:32:18,743 Bring it the fuck on. 737 00:32:19,109 --> 00:32:20,245 Going to steampunk is kind of like 738 00:32:20,311 --> 00:32:23,348 pressing a reset button on that era. 739 00:32:23,414 --> 00:32:25,450 It's like, "Can we reset this era 740 00:32:25,516 --> 00:32:27,752 "so that we don't have these problems?" 741 00:32:27,818 --> 00:32:29,987 What if things had gone differently? 742 00:32:30,254 --> 00:32:31,756 {\an8}They're looking back {\an8}at the past and saying, 743 00:32:31,822 --> 00:32:33,824 {\an8}"Yeah, a lot of these really {\an8}horrible things happened, 744 00:32:33,891 --> 00:32:35,460 {\an8}"but here's some {\an8}really cool things, 745 00:32:35,526 --> 00:32:37,295 {\an8}"and that if they had gone {\an8}in this direction, 746 00:32:37,362 --> 00:32:39,497 {\an8}"if they had moved over {\an8}here and gone that way, 747 00:32:39,564 --> 00:32:41,366 {\an8}"then wow, what could it {\an8}have been?" 748 00:32:41,432 --> 00:32:42,867 {\an8}Well, it could've been this. 749 00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,135 {\an8}That's about genres {\an8}and subgenres growing up. 750 00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:46,269 {\an8}That's good stuff. 751 00:32:47,772 --> 00:32:50,174 As you map the cultural activity, 752 00:32:50,275 --> 00:32:53,944 so you map the amount of stuff that's being produced, 753 00:32:54,011 --> 00:32:55,613 the amount of steampunk stuff, 754 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,783 so TV, and games, and comics, 755 00:32:58,849 --> 00:33:02,687 and fashion, and music and all of this stuff, 756 00:33:02,753 --> 00:33:06,791 there has been an incredible spike in cultural activity 757 00:33:06,857 --> 00:33:08,293 around steampunk. 758 00:33:08,293 --> 00:33:11,629 So what is it about steampunk 759 00:33:11,696 --> 00:33:15,165 that has ignited all of this cultural activity? 760 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,035 {\an8}What does steampunk {\an8}tell us about today? 761 00:33:18,102 --> 00:33:21,205 {\an8}If you have more people {\an8}who are interested in it, why? 762 00:33:21,506 --> 00:33:22,807 {\an8}In the second half {\an8}of the 20th century, 763 00:33:22,873 --> 00:33:24,742 {\an8}there were national movements: {\an8}in the '50s, beatniks; 764 00:33:24,809 --> 00:33:26,677 {\an8}in the '60s, hippies; {\an8}in the '70s, punks; 765 00:33:26,744 --> 00:33:28,613 {\an8}in the '80s, hip-hop; and then {\an8}with the rise of the Internet 766 00:33:28,679 --> 00:33:30,114 {\an8}and corporatization of media, 767 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,216 {\an8}that dissipated {\an8}like a fractal pattern. 768 00:33:32,317 --> 00:33:33,551 After a generation or so 769 00:33:33,618 --> 00:33:35,653 of not having a cohesive movement like that, 770 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,422 I think people are really hungry 771 00:33:37,488 --> 00:33:40,325 for some kind of tribe to come together: 772 00:33:40,358 --> 00:33:42,092 aesthetic, music, fashion. 773 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,194 {\an8}What we're seeing right now {\an8}with steampunk 774 00:33:44,329 --> 00:33:45,596 {\an8}is something similar {\an8}to what we saw 775 00:33:45,663 --> 00:33:48,633 {\an8}in the late '50s {\an8}with the Beat Generation 776 00:33:48,699 --> 00:33:51,001 {\an8}or that we saw in the late '60s {\an8}with the hippie movement 777 00:33:51,068 --> 00:33:54,539 {\an8}is all of a sudden we've got {\an8}the Summer of Love. 778 00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:56,140 All of a sudden, it's becoming cool. 779 00:33:56,206 --> 00:33:59,444 And what that does is it creates a shitload of people 780 00:33:59,510 --> 00:34:02,913 walking around with goggles on their top hats 781 00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:05,416 and calling themselves steampunk. 782 00:34:05,483 --> 00:34:07,618 And the people who were at the core of this, 783 00:34:07,685 --> 00:34:09,053 who are at the core of this, 784 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,389 who have a strong ideological commitment 785 00:34:11,456 --> 00:34:12,857 to this idea of changing the narrative, 786 00:34:12,923 --> 00:34:15,426 of changing the world, are going, "Wait a minute!" 787 00:34:15,493 --> 00:34:17,362 But what happens as a part of that process 788 00:34:17,395 --> 00:34:19,229 is you actually do get cultural change. 789 00:34:19,364 --> 00:34:22,733 And this is why I really like it is it's not a literary movement 790 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,735 or a film movement, and it actually is 791 00:34:24,802 --> 00:34:27,037 a broader cultural movement, and you don't have to read 792 00:34:27,104 --> 00:34:29,674 The Difference Engine to know what steampunk is. 793 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,943 {\an8}Do we try to keep this {\an8}a small, little, private thing 794 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:36,581 {\an8}just for us to savor, {\an8}or do we get annoyed 795 00:34:36,647 --> 00:34:40,184 {\an8}when big mainstream things {\an8}try to take over steampunk? 796 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:43,087 For myself, I don't really mind. 797 00:34:43,153 --> 00:34:45,590 I don't like steampunk because it's elusive. 798 00:34:45,656 --> 00:34:47,458 I like steampunk because I like steampunk. 799 00:34:47,525 --> 00:34:49,960 And if big mainstream people want to attempt it, 800 00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:51,396 go for it; that's great. 801 00:34:51,396 --> 00:34:52,697 They'll either do a good job of it 802 00:34:52,763 --> 00:34:54,231 or they'll do a crappy job of it. 803 00:34:54,298 --> 00:34:56,601 If they do a crappy job of it, we'll ignore it, 804 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:58,736 like when Justin Bieber did his music video. 805 00:34:58,803 --> 00:35:00,405 The only way that that music video 806 00:35:00,405 --> 00:35:03,408 affected my life was having to discuss that music video. 807 00:35:03,474 --> 00:35:05,510 People who just want to do it for a fad, they're going to 808 00:35:05,576 --> 00:35:07,412 patronize all these lovely people in there. 809 00:35:07,478 --> 00:35:09,146 These people are going to make money off that. 810 00:35:09,213 --> 00:35:10,448 That's great, you know? 811 00:35:10,515 --> 00:35:11,949 They're good artists. 812 00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:14,419 They're good artists; they make good things. 813 00:35:14,419 --> 00:35:15,753 {\an8}If their stuff sells more {\an8}because a bunch 814 00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:17,488 {\an8}of douchey people want {\an8}to come in and buy it, 815 00:35:17,555 --> 00:35:19,323 {\an8}by god, knock yourself out. 816 00:35:19,424 --> 00:35:22,827 Look at the album art inside of T-Pain's new album, 817 00:35:22,893 --> 00:35:25,996 and you'll see a picture of T-Pain dressed exactly like me, 818 00:35:26,063 --> 00:35:28,132 with a microphone just like my microphone, 819 00:35:28,198 --> 00:35:30,501 and literally, it's his steampunk album. 820 00:35:30,568 --> 00:35:32,236 On the one hand, I'm thinking, like, 821 00:35:32,302 --> 00:35:35,039 "Oh! All these uninvited people have come to my party!" 822 00:35:35,105 --> 00:35:37,608 What the hell are you doing here? Go away!" 823 00:35:37,675 --> 00:35:39,877 But on the other hand, if someone co-opting 824 00:35:39,944 --> 00:35:42,146 the fashion style brings them to this place 825 00:35:42,212 --> 00:35:48,052 of looking into the cultural and sociological parts of it, 826 00:35:48,118 --> 00:35:50,621 that's not necessarily a bad thing. 827 00:35:50,688 --> 00:35:53,458 I remember people saying to me, "Well, as soon as you see 828 00:35:53,458 --> 00:35:55,593 the steampunk styles in Hot Topic, 829 00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:57,227 then you know it's over." 830 00:35:57,294 --> 00:35:58,863 Okay, well, guess what? 831 00:35:58,929 --> 00:36:01,666 They're in Hot Topic and they're in the L.L. Bean catalog 832 00:36:01,732 --> 00:36:03,367 and they're in all these other places, 833 00:36:03,468 --> 00:36:05,135 but it's not just the clothes. 834 00:36:05,202 --> 00:36:07,304 You know, it never was just the clothes. 835 00:36:07,371 --> 00:36:09,574 Just like with punk rock, it wasn't just the clothes. 836 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,141 It was the attitude. 837 00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:13,878 {\an8}It's still possible to write 838 00:36:13,944 --> 00:36:17,815 {\an8}alternate histories {\an8}which demonstrate 839 00:36:17,882 --> 00:36:21,819 {\an8}technologically-driven {\an8}social change. 840 00:36:22,086 --> 00:36:24,689 {\an8}Just because Justin Bieber {\an8}did a steampunk music video 841 00:36:24,755 --> 00:36:26,624 {\an8}does not mean that {\an8}we have jumped the shark. 842 00:36:26,691 --> 00:36:27,958 {\an8}It means we're {\an8}just getting started. 843 00:36:28,325 --> 00:36:30,695 It's not a trend that will have its day 844 00:36:30,761 --> 00:36:32,329 and then fall out of favor. 845 00:36:32,396 --> 00:36:33,964 It is a movement which will grow 846 00:36:34,031 --> 00:36:36,066 into an actual physical community. 847 00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:39,303 Maybe ten years from now we won't recognize 848 00:36:39,369 --> 00:36:42,239 that it's steampunk anymore, but the ideas and the attitudes 849 00:36:42,306 --> 00:36:45,676 will just pervade the world, and that's what I'm hopeful about. 850 00:36:45,743 --> 00:36:47,077 I don't think... Are we gonna have 851 00:36:47,144 --> 00:36:49,246 a steampunk candidate for president? 852 00:36:49,313 --> 00:36:50,848 Probably not. 853 00:36:50,915 --> 00:36:53,951 Would the steampunk candidate be Republican or Democrat? 854 00:36:54,018 --> 00:36:57,121 No, it would be the Steampunk Party. 855 00:36:57,187 --> 00:36:58,956 Yeah, but what would they be more aligned with? 856 00:36:59,023 --> 00:37:00,224 What do you think? 857 00:37:00,290 --> 00:37:01,759 I don't know. 858 00:37:01,826 --> 00:37:03,093 I think within geek culture, 859 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,695 we are often our own worst enemies, 860 00:37:04,762 --> 00:37:06,531 because we love the stuff we love 861 00:37:06,531 --> 00:37:08,933 and we love the stuff so much that we want to keep doing it. 862 00:37:08,999 --> 00:37:10,768 And inevitably, that degrades it. 863 00:37:10,835 --> 00:37:14,404 Steampunk, as with any subcultural trope 864 00:37:14,539 --> 00:37:16,006 that becomes trendy, 865 00:37:16,073 --> 00:37:18,208 it gets harder and harder to do interesting things with it. 866 00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:20,545 It's not impossible, but the bar is high. 867 00:37:20,611 --> 00:37:23,581 And just like I think the bar these days should be very high 868 00:37:23,648 --> 00:37:25,182 for zombies and vampires, 869 00:37:25,249 --> 00:37:27,885 I think the bar should be extremely fucking high 870 00:37:27,952 --> 00:37:30,320 if you're doing steam engines and gears. 871 00:37:30,387 --> 00:37:32,957 A lot more people are coming into things like steampunk 872 00:37:33,023 --> 00:37:36,160 through the mainstream, one could say appropriation 873 00:37:36,226 --> 00:37:39,296 or one could say trickle down or whatever of steampunk, 874 00:37:39,363 --> 00:37:41,566 primarily as an aesthetic and not as a philosophy 875 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:43,100 or a politics or a way of life. 876 00:37:43,167 --> 00:37:45,102 But instead of turning up our noses at people 877 00:37:45,169 --> 00:37:48,005 who buy their coat at Hot Topic, I think we can say, 878 00:37:48,072 --> 00:37:50,107 "Oh, that's cool that you're interested in this. 879 00:37:50,174 --> 00:37:53,143 "Are you also interested in the real element of this?" 880 00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:56,113 Now, imagine the '80s TV movie where, you know, 881 00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:58,148 the kid is all of a sudden, like, getting into 882 00:37:58,215 --> 00:37:59,984 Dungeons & Dragons, and then all of a sudden 883 00:38:00,050 --> 00:38:02,887 the crazy Satanist anarchists come out of the corner 884 00:38:02,953 --> 00:38:05,189 and say, "Hey, kid, why don't you try, you know, 885 00:38:05,255 --> 00:38:08,727 "being queer and overthrowing the government?" 886 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,175 Somebody else has said that, you know, 887 00:38:25,242 --> 00:38:27,077 "Making is the religion of steampunk." 888 00:38:27,144 --> 00:38:30,815 I kind of like the maker aspect of contemporary steampunk. 889 00:38:30,881 --> 00:38:33,618 {\an8}We are not reenactors {\an8}or even re-creationists; 890 00:38:33,684 --> 00:38:34,985 {\an8}we are reimaginers. 891 00:38:35,052 --> 00:38:37,054 {\an8}They have a sort of lot {\an8}of social credibility 892 00:38:37,121 --> 00:38:39,857 {\an8}and they're very keen {\an8}into sort of do it yourself, 893 00:38:39,924 --> 00:38:42,092 {\an8}do it together styles {\an8}of ideology. 894 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,295 {\an8}We grew up in a situation {\an8}of don't look inside the box, 895 00:38:45,362 --> 00:38:49,099 {\an8}don't know how your VCR works, {\an8}you know, and so all of a sudden 896 00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:50,901 {\an8}you run into a group of people {\an8}that the first thing they do 897 00:38:50,968 --> 00:38:52,970 {\an8}is grab a screwdriver {\an8}and a hammer and go to work. 898 00:38:53,037 --> 00:38:55,840 {\an8}My job is not just to consume, {\an8}but steampunk says, 899 00:38:55,906 --> 00:38:57,875 {\an8}engage with it, {\an8}make it your own, 900 00:38:57,942 --> 00:39:00,310 {\an8}break it, risk it, {\an8}reinterpret it, 901 00:39:00,377 --> 00:39:01,646 {\an8}turn it into something else. 902 00:39:01,712 --> 00:39:03,247 {\an8}Save the broken bits for later. 903 00:39:03,313 --> 00:39:05,950 {\an8}I love getting my hands dirty. 904 00:39:06,016 --> 00:39:07,952 {\an8}You know, I'm always wanting {\an8}to make something. 905 00:39:08,018 --> 00:39:10,888 I certainly was always the kid that took stuff apart. 906 00:39:10,955 --> 00:39:13,290 This has been a way of learning how to put it back together. 907 00:39:13,357 --> 00:39:15,960 This is Captain Nemo's underwater rifle. 908 00:39:16,026 --> 00:39:18,696 It took me approximately three months to make. 909 00:39:18,763 --> 00:39:21,265 There are 93 parts to it. 910 00:39:21,331 --> 00:39:22,800 {\an8}These are the ray guns. 911 00:39:22,867 --> 00:39:24,434 {\an8}This is the ceramic one. 912 00:39:24,501 --> 00:39:26,370 {\an8}You know, when you look at it {\an8}close up, you can really see 913 00:39:26,436 --> 00:39:27,938 {\an8}that it's made like a film prop. 914 00:39:28,705 --> 00:39:30,675 This one, this doesn't disguise its origins at all. 915 00:39:30,708 --> 00:39:32,042 I mean, these are coat hooks and so on. 916 00:39:32,109 --> 00:39:33,944 These are found bits from other stuff. 917 00:39:34,011 --> 00:39:35,880 It's not meant to pretend that it's functional. 918 00:39:35,946 --> 00:39:38,415 I think with steampunk, upcycling's very important. 919 00:39:38,482 --> 00:39:39,850 You take what you have now, 920 00:39:39,917 --> 00:39:41,719 usually a bunch of mundane stuff, 921 00:39:41,786 --> 00:39:43,320 and you combine it into something 922 00:39:43,387 --> 00:39:45,990 which looks like it came out of Jules Verne. 923 00:39:46,256 --> 00:39:48,258 {\an8}So this is the world {\an8}of Captain Chronomek. 924 00:39:48,325 --> 00:39:52,062 {\an8}Captain Chronomek {\an8}is a steampunk superhero. 925 00:39:52,129 --> 00:39:55,299 {\an8}He travels through history {\an8}solving historical puzzles, 926 00:39:55,365 --> 00:39:58,135 {\an8}solving historical mysteries, {\an8}righting historical wrongs, 927 00:39:58,602 --> 00:40:00,771 and he's ultimately very invested in the idea 928 00:40:00,838 --> 00:40:02,272 of bringing the wonder of technology 929 00:40:02,339 --> 00:40:03,473 into the world again. 930 00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:05,409 The thing that I'm most emotionally attached to 931 00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:07,845 is the Luminiferous Tessellator. 932 00:40:07,912 --> 00:40:09,814 It embodies how we make steampunk art 933 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,381 and how we make props. 934 00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:13,884 It's held together with glue and tape and paint, 935 00:40:13,951 --> 00:40:16,887 and it's all about taking these things 936 00:40:16,954 --> 00:40:18,889 and imagining the story you can tell with them. 937 00:40:18,956 --> 00:40:20,991 {\an8}There's something a little {\an8}revolutionary about it 938 00:40:21,058 --> 00:40:23,127 {\an8}because you're not just {\an8}going out and buying 939 00:40:23,193 --> 00:40:27,397 {\an8}a premade something or other, {\an8}you're creating your own reality 940 00:40:27,464 --> 00:40:30,768 {\an8}out of these bits and bobs, {\an8}out of our consumer culture. 941 00:40:31,035 --> 00:40:33,771 These clocks, the feather on the second hand goes 942 00:40:35,706 --> 00:40:36,974 It's a bit of that humor, 943 00:40:37,041 --> 00:40:39,309 and a bit of that sentimentality. 944 00:40:39,376 --> 00:40:40,945 That's a word we haven't used yet, 945 00:40:41,011 --> 00:40:43,113 but that's a very steampunk word is "sentimental." 946 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:45,282 Not just romantic, but sentimental. 947 00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:48,018 The nice thing about living in a slower era 948 00:40:48,085 --> 00:40:49,887 was that you could master a technology 949 00:40:49,954 --> 00:40:51,722 before it was obsolete, 950 00:40:51,789 --> 00:40:53,657 and you can't do that anymore. 951 00:40:53,724 --> 00:40:55,059 To me, the heart of punk is just 952 00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:56,560 grab it, make it your own, do it yourself. 953 00:40:56,626 --> 00:40:59,663 Steampunk, they're grabbing these technologies 954 00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:01,131 and they're making them their own. 955 00:41:01,198 --> 00:41:03,233 They're making things themselves. 956 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,269 {\an8}They're taking pieces {\an8}of this and pieces of that 957 00:41:05,335 --> 00:41:07,337 {\an8}and putting them together {\an8}and making something brand new. 958 00:41:07,604 --> 00:41:10,174 {\an8}They will have a story {\an8}of where this thing came from, 959 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,142 {\an8}and they are actually {\an8}creating narrative 960 00:41:12,209 --> 00:41:14,211 {\an8}that is basically storytelling {\an8}of a different type. 961 00:41:14,478 --> 00:41:16,113 When I conceived this character, 962 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:18,916 I realized that I would have to build a physical model 963 00:41:18,983 --> 00:41:21,485 in order to Photoshop it into these vintage images. 964 00:41:21,551 --> 00:41:23,553 {\an8}I really think that's {\an8}part of what sells it 965 00:41:23,620 --> 00:41:27,091 {\an8}in the photographs and all of {\an8}the digital imagery Paul does. 966 00:41:27,157 --> 00:41:29,693 {\an8}It is actually {\an8}a physical object. 967 00:41:29,794 --> 00:41:32,596 I wanted to make one of my own because, heck, that's what I do. 968 00:41:32,662 --> 00:41:34,364 I thought, "Well, gosh, wouldn't it be great 969 00:41:34,431 --> 00:41:38,602 if there was a one-to-one scale, full size Boilerplate?" 970 00:41:38,668 --> 00:41:41,338 {\an5}Every time you see Boilerplate {\an5}moving in the books 971 00:41:41,405 --> 00:41:44,074 {\an5}or sitting down, {\an5}that's all Photoshopped. 972 00:41:44,141 --> 00:41:48,712 {\an5}So basically, we've got to build {\an5}all of that into this guy. 973 00:41:48,813 --> 00:41:52,382 I would like it if his head could turn. 974 00:41:52,449 --> 00:41:53,583 Oh, cool. 975 00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:56,220 Oh, he lives! 976 00:41:56,286 --> 00:41:59,289 That excitement of seeing people actually creating something 977 00:41:59,356 --> 00:42:01,225 and sometimes on really large scale, 978 00:42:01,291 --> 00:42:04,094 that creates that kind of fevered imagination 979 00:42:04,161 --> 00:42:06,163 and wanting to be part of something 980 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:08,565 that I don't think you can get through the other elements. 981 00:42:15,538 --> 00:42:17,107 {\an8}The Neverwas Haul {\an8}is a three-story 982 00:42:17,174 --> 00:42:19,143 {\an8}Victorian house on wheels 983 00:42:19,209 --> 00:42:22,412 {\an8}that is built on the frame of {\an8}a fifth wheel travel trailer. 984 00:42:22,779 --> 00:42:26,851 {\an8}We built it in 2006 {\an8}for the Burning Man festival. 985 00:42:26,917 --> 00:42:30,554 {\an8}It is a sculpture art car, 986 00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:36,226 {\an8}70% to 80% built from recycled, {\an8}repurposed material. 987 00:42:36,293 --> 00:42:40,364 {\an8}Obtainium: {\an8}that which we can obtain. 988 00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:43,233 {\an8}Shannon decided to build {\an8}a drivable house, 989 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,403 {\an8}which is actually directly {\an8}out of the book Snow Crash. 990 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:48,638 We had the Haul up on the playa. 991 00:42:48,705 --> 00:42:52,476 People came out of the woodworks in their Victorian finery 992 00:42:52,542 --> 00:42:54,178 that they've obviously been carrying 993 00:42:54,244 --> 00:42:55,612 out to Burning Man for years. 994 00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:57,447 That's where we first heard of steampunks. 995 00:42:57,514 --> 00:42:59,917 I don't think any of us knew anything about steampunk. 996 00:42:59,984 --> 00:43:01,285 We had no knowledge of it. 997 00:43:01,351 --> 00:43:03,620 We had no idea that this was even going on. 998 00:43:03,687 --> 00:43:05,455 We didn't realize that 999 00:43:05,522 --> 00:43:07,992 the fun stuff that we were getting into 1000 00:43:08,058 --> 00:43:10,260 was something that actually had a label to it. 1001 00:43:10,327 --> 00:43:13,130 If "The Mouse" had to build the Neverwas Haul, 1002 00:43:13,197 --> 00:43:15,565 it would cost him about a half a million dollars 1003 00:43:15,632 --> 00:43:18,903 and they'd have hire somebody to actually fabricate it. 1004 00:43:18,903 --> 00:43:21,438 We were building it on beer and pizza. 1005 00:43:21,505 --> 00:43:24,208 {\an8}Shannon O'Hare really {\an8}pulled us all together 1006 00:43:24,274 --> 00:43:27,411 {\an8}and made it something cohesive. 1007 00:43:27,677 --> 00:43:29,980 The thing about working with Shannon is, it's like, Shannon hacks 1008 00:43:30,047 --> 00:43:32,149 building construction the way I hack machinery. 1009 00:43:32,216 --> 00:43:35,986 And I would never have tried to take on a project that big. 1010 00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:39,356 I would love to foster 1011 00:43:39,423 --> 00:43:43,093 more people doing creative things with their hands. 1012 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,362 {\an8}And so I've started dabbling {\an8}more and more 1013 00:43:45,429 --> 00:43:47,831 {\an8}and now I'm cutting {\an8}metal and wood 1014 00:43:47,932 --> 00:43:49,633 {\an8}and assembling things with tools 1015 00:43:49,699 --> 00:43:51,969 {\an8}and doing stuff I never would've {\an8}done ever in my entire life. 1016 00:43:52,036 --> 00:43:54,271 You know, we love the fact that the Neverwas 1017 00:43:54,338 --> 00:43:56,706 has become an art collective. 1018 00:43:56,773 --> 00:44:00,177 It's a lot more like a family in a way. 1019 00:44:00,244 --> 00:44:02,079 Sam and Katherine, 1020 00:44:02,146 --> 00:44:07,451 they've been with us for close to four years. 1021 00:44:07,517 --> 00:44:11,721 So they are having a amazing steampunk ceremony 1022 00:44:11,788 --> 00:44:13,323 done here on the Neverwas. 1023 00:44:13,390 --> 00:44:16,260 Sam proposed to me as part of a three-act play. 1024 00:44:16,326 --> 00:44:18,695 Dr. Professor Samuel Tweed, that's my character, 1025 00:44:18,762 --> 00:44:21,298 rides off in his airship and he crash lands on the moon. 1026 00:44:21,365 --> 00:44:24,168 And he's stranded and he's totally, you know, 1027 00:44:24,234 --> 00:44:26,636 out of water, out of food, out of supplies. 1028 00:44:26,703 --> 00:44:28,238 I send a message back to Earth, 1029 00:44:28,305 --> 00:44:31,976 and the Neverwas Haul and their crew from the Hibernian Academy, 1030 00:44:32,009 --> 00:44:33,743 they come by and they rescue me. 1031 00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:35,245 With his beloved librarian. 1032 00:44:35,312 --> 00:44:36,981 Yes, there is a library on the Haul. 1033 00:44:37,047 --> 00:44:38,415 And he's so overcome, 1034 00:44:38,482 --> 00:44:40,384 he just gets down on one knee and proposes. 1035 00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:43,053 Oh my dearest Katherine, I love thee so. 1036 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,055 Even though my airship is grounded, 1037 00:44:45,122 --> 00:44:46,991 my heart soars to the sky. 1038 00:44:47,057 --> 00:44:50,727 Katherine Becvar, will you marry me? 1039 00:44:50,794 --> 00:44:53,163 Of course, my love! 1040 00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:55,565 Actually, most of the people in the audience 1041 00:44:55,632 --> 00:44:57,234 who were just there for the fundraiser 1042 00:44:57,301 --> 00:44:59,003 didn't realize that it was a real proposal. 1043 00:44:59,003 --> 00:45:00,304 They just thought it was part of the show. 1044 00:45:00,370 --> 00:45:01,838 But it was not. 1045 00:45:01,905 --> 00:45:03,440 I actually proposed to her and gave her a real ring. 1046 00:45:03,507 --> 00:45:05,142 And so tomorrow at Obtainium Works, 1047 00:45:05,209 --> 00:45:06,543 we're going to take this to the next level 1048 00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:08,145 and we're actually going to get married. 1049 00:45:08,212 --> 00:45:10,114 It's going to be monumental. 1050 00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:13,450 I mean, these guys do not do anything small. 1051 00:45:13,517 --> 00:45:16,786 So this is the main mechanism here. 1052 00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:20,757 And then, of course, you have to crank it to start with. 1053 00:45:21,024 --> 00:45:23,360 You know, they just love doing the same stuff 1054 00:45:23,427 --> 00:45:27,131 and the whole costuming thing and the storytelling 1055 00:45:27,197 --> 00:45:29,566 and, you know, the characters and so forth... 1056 00:45:29,633 --> 00:45:30,569 they are steampunk. 1057 00:45:39,443 --> 00:45:41,845 I think one reason that we keep going back to the Victorians 1058 00:45:41,911 --> 00:45:43,447 is because there was such enthusiasm 1059 00:45:43,513 --> 00:45:45,449 and such optimism for technology. 1060 00:45:45,715 --> 00:45:47,817 {\an8}It was a time where instead of {\an8}people looking at technology 1061 00:45:47,884 --> 00:45:49,253 {\an8}and seeing it in such {\an8}a negative way, 1062 00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:50,720 {\an8}that it was {\an8}incredibly optimistic. 1063 00:45:50,787 --> 00:45:52,622 {\an8}Science will save us, {\an8}we'll have the cures 1064 00:45:52,689 --> 00:45:54,524 {\an8}to all diseases, {\an8}we'll go to the planets. 1065 00:45:54,791 --> 00:45:55,959 {\an8}They honestly believed {\an8}that the technology 1066 00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,594 {\an8}was going to save them. 1067 00:45:57,661 --> 00:45:59,796 {\an8}And, well, Mary Shelley thought {\an8}maybe it could raise the dead. 1068 00:46:00,163 --> 00:46:01,831 {\an8}If you look at the history {\an8}of computing itself, 1069 00:46:01,898 --> 00:46:03,433 {\an8}computing started off {\an8}as a crazy idea 1070 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,269 {\an8}that was too science fiction {\an8}for its time. 1071 00:46:05,335 --> 00:46:06,870 {\an8}And in the same way, 1072 00:46:06,936 --> 00:46:09,306 {\an8}fantasy and fiction {\an8}has found a way 1073 00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:12,976 {\an8}to combine the magical {\an8}and the practical in steampunk. 1074 00:46:13,277 --> 00:46:15,645 {\an8}When people look at that, they {\an8}can romanticize about an era 1075 00:46:15,712 --> 00:46:18,848 {\an8}in which a lot of people {\an8}just got together and said, 1076 00:46:18,915 --> 00:46:20,550 {\an8}"Damn it all, let's just go. 1077 00:46:20,617 --> 00:46:22,652 {\an8}"There's nothing too far away {\an8}that we cannot reach." 1078 00:46:22,919 --> 00:46:25,322 There was this idea that we are on the cusp of greatness. 1079 00:46:25,389 --> 00:46:27,624 We're on the cusp of, you know, saving humanity 1080 00:46:27,691 --> 00:46:30,260 and conquering the universe and doing exciting things, 1081 00:46:30,327 --> 00:46:33,230 whereas the science fiction of the last 20 or 30 years 1082 00:46:33,297 --> 00:46:34,798 has been more to the tune of 1083 00:46:34,864 --> 00:46:37,000 "We're going to destroy ourselves with our technology." 1084 00:46:37,301 --> 00:46:38,568 {\an8}There's so little {\an8}science fiction 1085 00:46:38,635 --> 00:46:41,238 {\an8}that talks about {\an8}exploration and invention. 1086 00:46:41,305 --> 00:46:44,908 {\an8}It's all "Oh, God, don't build {\an8}giant robots, they'll kill you!" 1087 00:46:44,974 --> 00:46:47,111 {\an8}And the Victorians were like, {\an8}"Let's build giant robots! 1088 00:46:47,144 --> 00:46:48,678 {\an8}And, "Oh, shoot, {\an8}they killed us." 1089 00:46:48,745 --> 00:46:52,416 {\an8}Real science has shown us {\an8}an amazing universe out there 1090 00:46:52,482 --> 00:46:55,119 {\an8}that we aren't capable {\an8}of getting to. 1091 00:46:55,152 --> 00:46:56,986 So in a way, going back to a time 1092 00:46:57,121 --> 00:47:00,157 when science fiction seemed like it could do anything, 1093 00:47:00,224 --> 00:47:01,725 even though we know it can't, 1094 00:47:01,791 --> 00:47:03,760 that's not rational; it's magic. 1095 00:47:03,827 --> 00:47:05,595 {\an8}I'm very object driven. 1096 00:47:05,662 --> 00:47:08,432 {\an8}Part of being into the aesthetic {\an8}of steampunk shows in my work 1097 00:47:08,498 --> 00:47:11,268 {\an8}in like I describe all of these {\an8}dresses and stuff like that, 1098 00:47:11,335 --> 00:47:12,769 {\an8}and part of is that I love 1099 00:47:12,836 --> 00:47:15,305 {\an8}what objects can tell you {\an8}about culture. 1100 00:47:15,372 --> 00:47:17,407 And so what I love about the Victorian era 1101 00:47:17,474 --> 00:47:20,877 is that they are in an industrial revolution 1102 00:47:20,944 --> 00:47:24,181 where new technology is being constantly invented 1103 00:47:24,248 --> 00:47:26,516 and so much of it is silly and whimsical. 1104 00:47:26,583 --> 00:47:33,157 So I love crazy curling tongs and dusters that are automated 1105 00:47:33,157 --> 00:47:35,959 and the first vacuum cleaners 1106 00:47:36,025 --> 00:47:40,029 and teacups that are made with little moustache protectors. 1107 00:47:40,164 --> 00:47:42,799 I just encountered a letter opener 1108 00:47:42,866 --> 00:47:45,802 that had a hidden pocketknife in the handle. 1109 00:47:45,869 --> 00:47:49,005 Why do you need a pocketknife in your letter opener, 1110 00:47:49,072 --> 00:47:50,540 which is already quite sharp often? 1111 00:47:50,607 --> 00:47:52,008 I have no idea, but there it is. 1112 00:47:52,075 --> 00:47:53,343 That's the kind of things that 1113 00:47:53,410 --> 00:47:54,778 the Victorians were doing all the time. 1114 00:47:55,044 --> 00:47:57,747 {\an8}It has so many elements, {\an8}but one of them has to be 1115 00:47:57,814 --> 00:48:02,586 {\an8}nostalgia for the Industrial {\an8}Age, which is over, 1116 00:48:02,652 --> 00:48:06,356 {\an8}and so as soon as {\an8}something real is gone, 1117 00:48:06,423 --> 00:48:07,959 {\an8}you can have the fantasy of it. 1118 00:48:11,026 --> 00:48:13,630 {\an8}One of the most common {\an8}misperceptions of steampunk 1119 00:48:13,697 --> 00:48:15,599 {\an8}is that these people are just {\an8}trying to go back. 1120 00:48:15,665 --> 00:48:17,601 {\an8}They're just trying to go back {\an8}to like a simpler time. 1121 00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:19,569 {\an8}And they're just trying to get {\an8}rid of all of this stuff. 1122 00:48:19,636 --> 00:48:22,572 {\an8}No, most of these {\an8}people, they love it, 1123 00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,109 {\an8}but they're recognizing it {\an8}for the tool that it is. 1124 00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:29,313 As our technology has become so terribly, terribly powerful 1125 00:48:29,379 --> 00:48:31,047 and we've become so dependent on it, 1126 00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,618 there's simultaneously something very fragile about it. 1127 00:48:34,784 --> 00:48:37,254 {\an8}Sure, we love technology {\an8}and it's magical, 1128 00:48:37,321 --> 00:48:39,389 {\an8}but, you know, not only do {\an8}none of us know 1129 00:48:39,456 --> 00:48:41,791 {\an8}how to like open up an iPad {\an8}and repair it or make it, 1130 00:48:41,858 --> 00:48:45,362 {\an8}but we kind of almost feel like {\an8}it's controlling our lives. 1131 00:48:45,429 --> 00:48:47,831 I have an iPhone that we call the Jesus Phone. 1132 00:48:47,897 --> 00:48:50,567 I can see myself from space with that phone, 1133 00:48:50,634 --> 00:48:52,336 but god help me if I drop it in a bathtub. 1134 00:48:52,402 --> 00:48:54,003 I mean, it's all over. 1135 00:48:54,070 --> 00:48:56,706 And I think that goes back to some of the issues of control, 1136 00:48:56,773 --> 00:48:58,942 like taking control of your own identity and your own destiny. 1137 00:48:59,008 --> 00:49:01,811 I think that a lot of people feel they don't want to be 1138 00:49:01,878 --> 00:49:04,113 that far removed from how things work. 1139 00:49:04,248 --> 00:49:06,015 When the grid goes down, 1140 00:49:06,082 --> 00:49:08,017 what do we have that still works? 1141 00:49:08,084 --> 00:49:09,253 Well, we have the old things. 1142 00:49:09,319 --> 00:49:10,687 We have the analog things. 1143 00:49:10,754 --> 00:49:12,889 {\an8}The steampunk aesthetic {\an8}is kind of a rebellion 1144 00:49:12,956 --> 00:49:17,026 {\an8}against pretty much the whole {\an8}industrial design aesthetic 1145 00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:18,995 {\an8}of the last 50 years 1146 00:49:19,262 --> 00:49:21,998 where they've basically been trying to boil everything down 1147 00:49:22,065 --> 00:49:23,633 into a magic box. 1148 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,035 The technology's insane, it's absolutely amazing, 1149 00:49:26,102 --> 00:49:29,273 but because it's everywhere, you don't really notice it. 1150 00:49:29,339 --> 00:49:31,341 I think the mind begins to kind of slide off 1151 00:49:31,408 --> 00:49:33,877 the seamlessness of Apple design after a while. 1152 00:49:33,943 --> 00:49:35,612 If I really sit back and think about it, 1153 00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,281 it's just like utterly bizarre to me. 1154 00:49:37,347 --> 00:49:41,017 I mean, an iPad is like, you know, it's fuckin' magic. 1155 00:49:41,084 --> 00:49:43,420 I can just touch it, and I can, ooh, sending stuff. 1156 00:49:43,487 --> 00:49:45,021 It's just like in these movies -- 1157 00:49:45,088 --> 00:49:46,590 Blade Runner didn't even have shit that nice. 1158 00:49:46,856 --> 00:49:48,392 {\an8}Our current {\an8}industrial design movement 1159 00:49:48,458 --> 00:49:50,394 {\an8}is beautiful and amazing {\an8}and streamlined. 1160 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:51,728 {\an8}Oh sure, and it's {\an8}designed to keep you 1161 00:49:51,795 --> 00:49:53,563 {\an8}from killing yourself {\an8}in the gears. 1162 00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:56,333 Right, but just the fact that you see it over and over again. 1163 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,102 It's really amazing, but it doesn't look like anything. 1164 00:49:59,168 --> 00:50:00,837 It doesn't look like a machine. 1165 00:50:00,904 --> 00:50:03,540 It looks like an Etch A Sketch. 1166 00:50:03,607 --> 00:50:05,942 {\an8}Somehow or another we're {\an8}supposed to accept the idea 1167 00:50:06,009 --> 00:50:07,911 {\an8}that less is better. 1168 00:50:08,177 --> 00:50:10,046 The Victorians would not have bought into that 1169 00:50:10,113 --> 00:50:11,315 for five seconds. 1170 00:50:11,348 --> 00:50:12,682 They thought if you were going to make 1171 00:50:12,749 --> 00:50:14,651 a giant death ray killing machine, 1172 00:50:14,718 --> 00:50:17,854 it should fill an entire room, and it should be gorgeous, 1173 00:50:17,921 --> 00:50:19,789 and it should have a million levers and buttons 1174 00:50:19,856 --> 00:50:22,025 that don't even do anything. They just look cool. 1175 00:50:22,091 --> 00:50:24,928 But it should look like a giant death ray killing machine, 1176 00:50:24,994 --> 00:50:26,763 and now we have a button. 1177 00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:30,967 Something like your slick, shiny iPod or your laptop 1178 00:50:31,034 --> 00:50:33,002 or your slick modern surface 1179 00:50:33,069 --> 00:50:38,342 just doesn't have that same degree of humanity in there. 1180 00:50:38,408 --> 00:50:40,644 To some extent we like sleek functionality, 1181 00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:42,612 but we need some rough edges 1182 00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,281 for our brains to kind of latch onto. 1183 00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:47,651 Sometimes we want that kind of validation 1184 00:50:47,717 --> 00:50:50,320 that there is stuff in our lives that we can touch 1185 00:50:50,387 --> 00:50:52,889 and that connects you to the real world. 1186 00:50:53,256 --> 00:50:57,093 {\an8}It's great to have a smartphone, {\an8}but that phone is boring. 1187 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,462 I mean, look at this phone, 1188 00:50:58,528 --> 00:51:00,296 like look at how fucking tiny the buttons are. 1189 00:51:00,364 --> 00:51:01,931 Like, this is aggravating! 1190 00:51:01,998 --> 00:51:04,768 There's a banality to like a candy bar phone. 1191 00:51:04,834 --> 00:51:06,636 It's made to be as lightweight as possible, 1192 00:51:06,703 --> 00:51:09,305 very cheap clattery sound when you drop it on the floor, 1193 00:51:09,373 --> 00:51:14,043 really, really junky piece of hardware, 1194 00:51:14,110 --> 00:51:15,745 but it's a miracle. 1195 00:51:15,812 --> 00:51:20,216 {\an8}You give that device {\an8}to a French semaphorist 1196 00:51:20,283 --> 00:51:23,487 {\an8}in the 19th century, {\an8}and he would weep. 1197 00:51:23,553 --> 00:51:25,955 And what I think steampunk does 1198 00:51:26,022 --> 00:51:31,828 is make you remember just how miraculous it all is. 1199 00:51:31,895 --> 00:51:35,031 For me, it just shows the maturity 1200 00:51:35,098 --> 00:51:37,166 of, sort of, our technology, 1201 00:51:37,233 --> 00:51:39,736 is we're having more of it, and because there's more of it, 1202 00:51:39,803 --> 00:51:41,237 people want different things from it, 1203 00:51:41,304 --> 00:51:42,639 because one size doesn't fit all. 1204 00:51:42,706 --> 00:51:44,474 What kind of relationship 1205 00:51:44,541 --> 00:51:47,511 do we want to have with people, and between people? 1206 00:51:47,577 --> 00:51:50,780 And how does your technology mediate that? 1207 00:51:51,047 --> 00:51:53,417 How can we use technology or change technology 1208 00:51:53,483 --> 00:51:55,685 or create technology in a way that allows us 1209 00:51:55,752 --> 00:51:58,121 to express our own individuality 1210 00:51:58,187 --> 00:52:01,858 but also at the same time not be confined to that 1211 00:52:01,925 --> 00:52:04,193 and not have everything that we seek out through technology 1212 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:06,095 only merely reinforce that? 1213 00:52:06,162 --> 00:52:07,731 We are really entered an era 1214 00:52:07,797 --> 00:52:10,066 in which part of the business model of contemporary technology 1215 00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,703 is often making it illegal for you to modify your technology, 1216 00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:17,774 and if your needs aren't widespread enough 1217 00:52:17,841 --> 00:52:19,443 that someone can figure out a reason 1218 00:52:19,443 --> 00:52:21,077 to market a product to you, 1219 00:52:21,144 --> 00:52:24,548 you're just out of luck when it comes to shifting your device. 1220 00:52:24,614 --> 00:52:28,317 And that inhumanity in the scale of technology 1221 00:52:28,452 --> 00:52:30,086 and in the way technology works 1222 00:52:30,153 --> 00:52:32,722 is, I think, one of the great frustrations of the modern time - 1223 00:52:32,789 --> 00:52:35,024 This passive voice: "Mistakes were made. 1224 00:52:35,091 --> 00:52:37,160 "There is no human agency responsible 1225 00:52:37,226 --> 00:52:39,295 "for this thing that's getting in your way." 1226 00:52:39,362 --> 00:52:40,864 Really frustrating. 1227 00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:43,467 {\an8}People's interaction {\an8}with technology is kind of, 1228 00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:45,134 {\an8}it's kind of strange. 1229 00:52:45,201 --> 00:52:47,537 {\an8}I mean, we're both addicted {\an8}and frightened of it. 1230 00:52:47,804 --> 00:52:52,075 One of the big questions today is whether or not 1231 00:52:52,141 --> 00:52:56,780 we will have enough tinkerable stuff in our world 1232 00:52:56,846 --> 00:52:59,483 that when someone takes away the tinkerable, 1233 00:52:59,483 --> 00:53:01,184 we go, "Wait a second! 1234 00:53:01,250 --> 00:53:04,387 "Inherently, technology should be tinkerable!" 1235 00:53:04,488 --> 00:53:05,855 {\an8}I think the way that {\an8}humanity interacts 1236 00:53:05,922 --> 00:53:09,358 {\an8}with technology right now {\an8}is incredibly alienating 1237 00:53:09,493 --> 00:53:11,227 {\an8}and incredibly destructive, 1238 00:53:11,294 --> 00:53:14,263 {\an8}and I understand why people {\an8}want to reject that 1239 00:53:14,330 --> 00:53:15,932 {\an8}and just throw out everything. 1240 00:53:15,999 --> 00:53:18,935 {\an8}But I consider that to be {\an8}a horrid mistake. 1241 00:53:19,002 --> 00:53:20,770 I'm not interested in throwing away technology, 1242 00:53:21,037 --> 00:53:22,906 I'm not interested in throwing away human knowledge. 1243 00:53:22,972 --> 00:53:25,509 I am interested in redeveloping technology 1244 00:53:25,575 --> 00:53:27,210 from a more human perspective 1245 00:53:27,276 --> 00:53:30,514 and with basically different motivations. 1246 00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:31,915 I would say that right now 1247 00:53:31,981 --> 00:53:33,850 technology is essentially profit-motivated, 1248 00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:35,952 and I would argue that that is actually, 1249 00:53:36,019 --> 00:53:37,887 it does a disservice to science. 1250 00:53:37,954 --> 00:53:40,123 Steampunk ships broken. 1251 00:53:40,189 --> 00:53:42,892 The idea is that you are supposed to open it, 1252 00:53:42,959 --> 00:53:44,761 the idea is that you are supposed to modify it, 1253 00:53:44,828 --> 00:53:46,295 you are supposed to personalize it, 1254 00:53:46,362 --> 00:53:47,697 you are supposed to humanize it. 1255 00:53:47,764 --> 00:53:50,934 An object from the notional steampunk past, 1256 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,970 parallel dimension arrives with the intention 1257 00:53:54,037 --> 00:53:56,405 that it's not to be used when it comes out of the package. 1258 00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:59,008 You're meant to do stuff with it to make it yours. 1259 00:53:59,075 --> 00:54:02,011 Stuff has to happen to it. It's meant to be bodged, 1260 00:54:02,078 --> 00:54:04,581 and it has obvious snags hanging off of it 1261 00:54:04,648 --> 00:54:06,750 where you're meant to add stuff, or fix stuff, 1262 00:54:06,816 --> 00:54:09,619 or attach stuff, or move stuff around. 1263 00:54:09,686 --> 00:54:11,855 It has a lot of user-serviceable parts. 1264 00:54:11,921 --> 00:54:13,990 And so that appeals to me 1265 00:54:14,057 --> 00:54:16,793 partly because, you know, there is no device 1266 00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:19,563 that is exactly perfect for you, and even if there was, 1267 00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,897 it wouldn't be perfect for you tomorrow 1268 00:54:20,964 --> 00:54:22,566 because your needs would change. 1269 00:54:22,566 --> 00:54:24,300 And so the idea of having configurability 1270 00:54:24,367 --> 00:54:27,904 built into the hardware around you is very seductive. 1271 00:54:27,971 --> 00:54:30,073 Technology is a manifestation 1272 00:54:30,139 --> 00:54:34,878 of our relationship with nature, with people. 1273 00:54:34,944 --> 00:54:38,281 Is there a way that we can restructure how we see people 1274 00:54:38,347 --> 00:54:40,584 that would change the kind of technology we produce? 1275 00:54:40,850 --> 00:54:43,587 I think that a lot of people are really interested in steampunk 1276 00:54:43,653 --> 00:54:45,121 as a reinterpretation 1277 00:54:45,188 --> 00:54:47,056 of humanity's interaction with machinery. 1278 00:54:47,123 --> 00:54:50,026 Once you understand machinery, 1279 00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:52,461 you realize there's really only so many ways to do things, 1280 00:54:52,596 --> 00:54:54,297 and you can start hacking machinery 1281 00:54:54,363 --> 00:54:55,865 the way people do with software. 1282 00:54:56,132 --> 00:54:58,968 {\an8}And there's new plastic crap {\an8}coming out all the time 1283 00:54:59,035 --> 00:55:02,706 {\an8}that somebody has to go through {\an8}and see how it can be bent 1284 00:55:02,772 --> 00:55:04,608 {\an8}to be used for something else. 1285 00:55:04,674 --> 00:55:06,175 And maybe the grid won't go down, 1286 00:55:06,242 --> 00:55:08,244 maybe we will end up in some, you know, 1287 00:55:08,311 --> 00:55:10,947 vast space-exploring science fictiony future, 1288 00:55:11,014 --> 00:55:12,415 and that would be fantastic, 1289 00:55:12,481 --> 00:55:15,318 but the hammer and nail is never going to go away. 1290 00:55:15,684 --> 00:55:19,288 In real terms, anything that anchors you more in a reality 1291 00:55:19,355 --> 00:55:22,992 that isn't based in the Internet and the electronic world 1292 00:55:23,059 --> 00:55:26,896 may actually be a lifesaving point of view down the road. 1293 00:55:27,163 --> 00:55:30,366 I believe that we will be forced to reconsider 1294 00:55:30,433 --> 00:55:33,269 all the motivations behind our technology 1295 00:55:33,336 --> 00:55:36,472 by ecological concerns, and I think as we do that 1296 00:55:36,539 --> 00:55:38,341 we're going to start coming to the same answers 1297 00:55:38,407 --> 00:55:40,944 that steampunks are on the forefront of. 1298 00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:44,180 Probably not the ray guns. 1299 00:55:57,893 --> 00:55:59,663 There are very few places left 1300 00:55:59,696 --> 00:56:02,799 where adults can go and learn new skills. 1301 00:56:02,866 --> 00:56:04,100 It's the great leveler, 1302 00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,869 is making and sharing and teaching, 1303 00:56:05,935 --> 00:56:07,837 and teaching doesn't have to happen in a school. 1304 00:56:07,904 --> 00:56:09,806 I've learned more about history and music 1305 00:56:09,873 --> 00:56:12,108 and artwork and people because of steampunk 1306 00:56:12,175 --> 00:56:15,044 than I ever did in grade school, high school, college. 1307 00:56:15,111 --> 00:56:17,681 I like learning, and I feel like by teaching, 1308 00:56:17,714 --> 00:56:20,684 you get to share with people, and that's just so exciting. 1309 00:56:20,717 --> 00:56:22,719 People actually absorb information much better 1310 00:56:22,786 --> 00:56:24,320 when they're being engaged and entertained. 1311 00:56:24,387 --> 00:56:26,856 When people look at Boilerplate, they smile, they laugh, 1312 00:56:26,923 --> 00:56:28,925 and that's exactly what I was looking for. 1313 00:56:28,992 --> 00:56:30,894 When you go to these sorts of events, 1314 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,129 you get to talk to a really wide range of people 1315 00:56:33,196 --> 00:56:34,898 about how they interact with technology, 1316 00:56:34,964 --> 00:56:36,499 how they interact with the world. 1317 00:56:36,565 --> 00:56:38,401 The fact that there is a community 1318 00:56:38,467 --> 00:56:41,771 that is doing different aspects of the same thing, it's fuel. 1319 00:56:41,838 --> 00:56:44,607 And it's interesting to hear kids who are 11 1320 00:56:44,708 --> 00:56:47,243 talk about wanting to build robots that are steam-powered. 1321 00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:48,845 You'll walk around in the hallway 1322 00:56:48,912 --> 00:56:50,279 at a steampunk convention and you'll see 1323 00:56:50,346 --> 00:56:52,816 a 16-year-old boy and a 70-year-old woman 1324 00:56:52,882 --> 00:56:54,517 having an in-depth discussion 1325 00:56:54,583 --> 00:56:57,553 on how to crochet an octopus or something like that. 1326 00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:59,923 And that kind of exchange of knowledge 1327 00:56:59,989 --> 00:57:01,925 is how we all better ourselves. 1328 00:57:01,991 --> 00:57:04,493 People often say, "How did you get into science fiction?" 1329 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,962 And my pat answer is always, 1330 00:57:06,029 --> 00:57:07,396 "Well, how did you get out of it?" 1331 00:57:07,463 --> 00:57:10,033 Because if you look at a class of 8-year-olds, 1332 00:57:10,099 --> 00:57:11,835 most of them are reading that kind of stuff, 1333 00:57:11,901 --> 00:57:14,503 which suggests that those of us within the field, 1334 00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:20,143 we're not so much converts; we're the ones with rigor. 1335 00:57:20,209 --> 00:57:22,445 I'm going to be running a workshop at Maker Faire 1336 00:57:22,511 --> 00:57:26,149 where I'm going to bring a collection of essentially junk 1337 00:57:26,215 --> 00:57:29,185 to get kids to make their own steampunk props 1338 00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,955 within the universe of Captain Chronomek. 1339 00:57:38,761 --> 00:57:41,597 Maker Faire and the do-it-yourself world 1340 00:57:41,664 --> 00:57:44,333 is a revolt against the corporate 1341 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,971 "This is what you're going to buy today" consumer world. 1342 00:57:48,037 --> 00:57:50,639 My whole thing has been children playing with live steam. 1343 00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:54,778 Showing kids the ways in which 1344 00:57:54,811 --> 00:57:59,148 they can have fun and be engaged in technology creates the people 1345 00:57:59,215 --> 00:58:01,785 that are going to be designing the technology in the future. 1346 00:58:01,818 --> 00:58:03,920 {\an8}I do believe that 1347 00:58:03,987 --> 00:58:05,989 {\an8}if more people grow up reading steampunk, 1348 00:58:06,055 --> 00:58:07,456 {\an8}they're going to have {\an8}a better idea 1349 00:58:07,523 --> 00:58:09,325 {\an8}about how technology {\an8}can actually be ours 1350 00:58:09,392 --> 00:58:11,294 {\an8}and not a cold, {\an8}alienated thing. 1351 00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:13,496 If every child goes home 1352 00:58:13,562 --> 00:58:16,632 and builds something great and wants to create more, 1353 00:58:16,699 --> 00:58:18,234 then our job is done. 1354 00:58:18,301 --> 00:58:20,203 I think steampunk will be a gateway 1355 00:58:20,269 --> 00:58:22,806 into a future phile, a tribe, 1356 00:58:22,806 --> 00:58:25,809 of aspirational, elite, intellectual, 1357 00:58:25,875 --> 00:58:27,276 and artistic creative people. 1358 00:58:27,343 --> 00:58:28,812 I would love to live in that world, 1359 00:58:28,812 --> 00:58:30,646 and I think I'm in it right now. 1360 00:58:30,713 --> 00:58:31,881 A few times a year. 1361 00:58:31,948 --> 00:58:33,582 Why not make it 24/7? 1362 00:58:46,896 --> 00:58:50,699 Welcome to Obtainium Works! 1363 00:58:52,101 --> 00:58:54,670 The steampunk wedding of the century! 1364 00:58:56,873 --> 00:59:00,076 I am just having the most fun day of my life. 1365 00:59:00,143 --> 00:59:01,945 You throw a party, and all your friends show up. 1366 00:59:02,011 --> 00:59:03,880 Weddings are awesome! 1367 00:59:03,947 --> 00:59:06,415 I think there are too many people in the world right now 1368 00:59:06,482 --> 00:59:08,451 who just, you know, they won't sing, 1369 00:59:08,517 --> 00:59:09,886 they won't tell stories 1370 00:59:09,953 --> 00:59:11,354 because "Oh, well, I'm not a professional," 1371 00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:14,023 and I want to see more and more people going, 1372 00:59:14,090 --> 00:59:16,993 "So what? I'm not a professional. This gives me joy." 1373 00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:18,727 Even if it's only pretty. 1374 00:59:18,862 --> 00:59:20,329 You know, pretty is its own reward. 1375 00:59:20,396 --> 00:59:21,998 At the end of the day, 1376 00:59:22,065 --> 00:59:24,067 steampunk is really a story 1377 00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:27,937 about artisanship on a human scale. 1378 00:59:28,004 --> 00:59:30,206 If we can open the door 1379 00:59:30,273 --> 00:59:34,210 for other people to experience, for other people to create, 1380 00:59:34,277 --> 00:59:36,279 for other people to express, 1381 00:59:36,345 --> 00:59:41,050 maybe that does change how the human equation happens. 1382 00:59:41,117 --> 00:59:42,618 Thank you, everyone, for coming. 1383 00:59:42,685 --> 00:59:45,889 I hope you enjoy the show. 1384 00:59:45,922 --> 00:59:47,290 There's nothing magical 1385 00:59:47,356 --> 00:59:50,659 about Victorian top hats and brass. 1386 00:59:50,726 --> 00:59:53,462 This is not what's important. 1387 00:59:53,529 --> 00:59:56,299 Make your own dream. 1388 00:59:56,365 --> 00:59:59,202 I keep meeting really amazing people, 1389 00:59:59,268 --> 01:00:00,904 and if steampunk has brought me anything, 1390 01:00:00,937 --> 01:00:03,940 it's brought me a lot of really, really excellent friends. 1391 01:00:04,007 --> 01:00:05,708 I have family all over the world now. 1392 01:00:05,774 --> 01:00:08,311 Perhaps in some ways it's almost been good therapy. 1393 01:00:08,377 --> 01:00:12,148 There were different events in my life that made me pull back, 1394 01:00:12,215 --> 01:00:14,450 and there were many days when I would be really happy 1395 01:00:14,517 --> 01:00:16,685 to never walk out the front door again. 1396 01:00:16,752 --> 01:00:18,287 Being in the ambassador role, 1397 01:00:18,354 --> 01:00:21,857 I had to go out and meet people in person and be present, 1398 01:00:21,925 --> 01:00:23,960 and that's been a very good thing. 1399 01:00:24,027 --> 01:00:26,295 I have two young daughters, and the 8-year-old 1400 01:00:26,362 --> 01:00:28,864 is trying to understand what steampunk is. 1401 01:00:28,932 --> 01:00:30,699 We took her with us to the Abney Park show, 1402 01:00:30,766 --> 01:00:32,168 and she had a blast. 1403 01:00:32,235 --> 01:00:33,669 It was her first rock concert ever, 1404 01:00:33,736 --> 01:00:35,238 and she now wants to become 1405 01:00:35,304 --> 01:00:39,275 an artist rock band fiddler airship pirate. 1406 01:00:40,042 --> 01:00:43,546 Creativity is the most important part. 1407 01:00:43,612 --> 01:00:47,951 Here in our heart. 1408 01:00:48,017 --> 01:00:50,119 That's how we hack that. 1409 01:00:50,186 --> 01:00:52,155 Because they don't own this. 1410 01:00:52,221 --> 01:00:54,290 By the power vested in me 1411 01:00:54,357 --> 01:00:57,393 by the Church of the Subgenius and the Universal Life Church, 1412 01:00:57,460 --> 01:01:00,229 I hereby pronounce you husband and wife. 1413 01:01:00,296 --> 01:01:03,166 Professor Tweed, you may kiss your bride. 1414 01:01:26,121 --> 01:01:30,093 There's a spark of inspiration and creativity and imagination 1415 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,661 in all of these people that we've spoken to. 1416 01:01:32,728 --> 01:01:34,497 Fundamentally steampunk is about 1417 01:01:34,563 --> 01:01:36,665 the power of the human imagination. 1418 01:01:36,732 --> 01:01:40,369 Words cannot express the delight 1419 01:01:40,436 --> 01:01:42,838 that I am feeling at this moment. 1420 01:01:42,905 --> 01:01:44,707 Thank you. 1421 01:01:48,311 --> 01:01:50,246 I want to say thank you all, very much. 1422 01:01:50,313 --> 01:01:53,482 I really feel honored to have this dinner with you all. 1423 01:01:53,549 --> 01:01:55,118 Cheers. 1424 01:01:55,184 --> 01:01:57,786 I'm very happy with what we've learned. 1425 01:01:57,853 --> 01:01:59,822 You can take this interplay 1426 01:01:59,888 --> 01:02:03,059 and take the questioning and envisioning 1427 01:02:03,126 --> 01:02:04,693 and thinking about the future 1428 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,031 and actually have it be fun and cool and hip. 1429 01:02:08,064 --> 01:02:09,365 It's taking the absurd 1430 01:02:09,432 --> 01:02:11,200 and the weird and the cool 1431 01:02:11,267 --> 01:02:14,437 and putting those things together and making it fun. 1432 01:02:14,503 --> 01:02:16,039 And it steampunk makes somebody smile, 1433 01:02:16,105 --> 01:02:17,473 that's to me the success. 1434 01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:19,542 I have no problem being a jester for the world. 1435 01:02:19,608 --> 01:02:21,044 I have no problem with people going, 1436 01:02:21,110 --> 01:02:22,711 "You look like a complete buffoon." 1437 01:02:22,778 --> 01:02:24,113 And I'm like, "I feel good. 1438 01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:25,881 "I like the way I look, and I made you smile." 1439 01:02:25,948 --> 01:02:28,051 When I get up in the mornin', I'm gonna put on my leather. 1440 01:02:28,117 --> 01:02:30,353 When I go to bed at night, I'll take it off 1441 01:02:30,419 --> 01:02:33,722 and put it back on the next day. 1442 01:02:33,789 --> 01:02:35,291 I'm not stoppin', 1443 01:02:35,358 --> 01:02:38,161 and I don't think anybody else is, not for a while. 1444 01:02:38,227 --> 01:02:39,662 We all do our little bit 1445 01:02:39,728 --> 01:02:42,631 to, you know, make steampunk really, really complex, 1446 01:02:42,698 --> 01:02:45,868 just the way that, you know, society is. 1447 01:02:45,934 --> 01:02:47,503 It's good times. 1448 01:02:47,570 --> 01:02:48,569 We must dance! 116209

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