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hi it's Mike from Mike unboxing reviews

and how to and on today's video be

taking a look at the MSI Pro

b650

m-p this is a very inexpensive

motherboard from the good people over at

MSI this is one I've actually purchased

myself out my own money actually not a

lot of money because I bought off eBay

and it was a used bargain picked this up

for somewhere in the region of about £80

which potentially obviously with

motherboards these days you have to be a

bit careful the pins on the motherboards

are very delicate and if you look

through eBay at any point you'll see

that spares or repairs is the key thing

to look out for if it says spares or

repairs chance are is a bent pin avoid

it anyway I'm getting off topic here so

we're going to take a look at this board

today see what it's all about go through

some of the connectivity I actually

think spoiler alert this is actually a

really good board and if you can pick it

up for a good price used go for it if

you can find on the new market somewhere

around the 120 to1 130s Mark at the end

of 2023 then I think you're actually

looking at a pretty decent allround

board it has a slight weakness which is

the vrm but we'll take a look at that a

little bit later and also you can take a

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that said let's get with it so let's

start off with a quick tour of what is

going on in the box and what we actually

get obviously you get the motherboard

itself now for those of you that are

watching and maybe you've zoomed in the

processor on there is the ryzen 5 7500f

I managed to pick that up it's a really

spectacular deal from AliExpress I will

try and Link that in the description

below but with AliExpress sellers come

and go so it's a little bit of a uh a

crapshoot on that but doesn't come with

it that's not included that's just

basically keeping the pins in place at

the moment anyway so on the box itself

you can see so it's the pro b650 m-p

part of M siiz Pro Series so these are

really tailored towards offices it

doesn't have PCI Express Gen 5 support

unfortunately but it does have PCR

Express Gen 4 which I think for most

people especially if you're looking at

more budget areas of the market this is

going to be absolutely fine and is based

on the b650 chipset so we do have a

little bit of overclocking ability there

and also things like Expo and that kind

of thing for overclocking RAM on the

back of the box it goes over some of the

key features as pointed out here so ddr5

memory support supports up to ddr5

memory up to 192 GB I think that's right

or 196 one of the two basically you can

put 48 gigs dims in each one of the four

slots available also supports 2.5 GB l

so that's the realtech RTL 8125 chipset

as we quite commonly see these days uh

also lightning Gen 4 support as we've

mentioned already and it's got the

frozer AI Coolin which I absolutely hate

to be honest with you it's in the MSI

Center and it's horrendous piece of

software but I would suggest not using

it just take control of the fans

yourself hey we've done plenty of videos

on that and we'll probably do one on

this one as well just to make sure

that's covered also at the bottom there

gives you specifications so I'll try and

give you a closeup of that so you can

see what the deal is but we'll go

through it all anyway and also gives you

a layout of the rear IO when it comes to

looking actually Inside the Box there's

very very little no user manual there's

a very basic guide for actually how to

install a processor there's the

regulatory information you get a IO

Shield which um is not captive as you

can guess because I've got it in my

hands and also something which you'll

notice on this it doesn't tell you which

one of the ports on the back of the

motherboard is the one for actually

doing a bars Flash and it doesn't tell

you on the box either so in order to

find out which Port is actually

necessary for doing a bars flash you

need a PC or a digital device to access

the internet to find out so yeah anyway

that's my one little bug bear the other

bug bear is this kind of waste of

plastic so they include a SATA cable not

a p a SATA cable someone actually

probably at the factory goes through the

bags of two and actually takes one out

and then reseals it they probably don't

but

you get my point at least two come on

don't be so tight but them being tight

can be redeemed some way with this board

so there's actually some pretty cool

stuff going on here I actually quite

like the layout the only thing which I

think spoils it just slightly is the

positioning of the PC Express slot for

your graphics card being the lower slot

I would have loved to have seen that the

next slot up just to give you a little

bit more room for those Micro ATX

graphics cards when you've got it into a

Micro ATX case graphics cards are going

to be really close to that bottom so

unless you've got a ventil bottom

section you potentially might struggle

with cooling so that is definitely

something to be considerate of when

you're purchasing a Micro ATX

motherboard other than that this tickes

pretty much all the boxes you could

possibly want bar flashback utilities

built in you also got eight pin power

connector up here in this top left hand

corner and that's nice to see that there

a nice open section so when you're

trying to fiddle around with your cabl

trying to plug it in it's a nice easy

open area to get to now it's easy to get

to because of one of the other sort of

limiting fact factors so the vrm on this

from what I can tell it looks like it's

a 6+ 1+ 2 or 6 plus2 plus 1 however you

work it out I'm not entirely sure how

vrm is configured on this I've tried to

tap into msi's technology databases to

see if I can find anything and everyone

seems pretty much in the dark but it

does appear there's six phases for the

main CPU side of it anyway um you'll see

some pictures of this with the heat sink

taken off it's a very small heat sink so

don't be thinking get this board getting

a 7950 X in there and overclocking the

snot out of it not going to happen the

vrms aren't going to C with that

realistically I would say this is more

suited for 65 watt parts or possibly

some of the 8,000 series apus which are

due out very shortly that I think is

where this board is aimed for of course

you can do and it does support the 750x

and it is listed on the compatibility

website but the vrm if you're looking at

doing some overclocking on it it

probably isn't going to do too well on

it the kind of sister Board of this the

full8 GTX version the b650

DP actually does do quite well when it

comes to the vrm it's looks like a very

similar setup although there is an

additional cooler along this top section

so don't expect it to work wonders in

that regard but for most systems and

actually when I was using this with the

7500f it was absolutely great and the

vrm temperatures were in the 50s if that

which is absolutely fine anyway so

moving on so not much else going on at

the top here you got your standard am5

socket love it hate it you also got the

am5 Ming brackets which are generally

backwards compatible with am4 depending

on your CPU Cooler do check before you

make the leap uh when it comes to Fan

headers actually got five fan headers on

here which is actually quite spectacular

for Micro ATX motherboard so you've got

a CPU header this one here you've also

then got a pump header and then next

that there is a system fan header so

you've got a nice little bunch of

headers there for S fans and as with all

MSI headers they they can be configured

to be either pwm DC control full speed

half speed whatever you want to do again

we've done tons of videos on how to set

those up so if you want to know how to

do that we will try and Link the videos

in the description below next up there

is a kind of like a a debugging Port

don't know really why you need that it's

more for a factory thing next that there

is a 12vt RGB header uh moving to the

side there is a 5vt 3 pin addressable

RGB header yay we always like to see

those on mic's unboxing and next that

something else we always like to see is

a debug LED these are great especially

with modern builds getting more and more

complex when you put your system

together for the first time and things

aren't working it's really great to have

some kind of visual representation of

what the problem may be so whether it's

your CPU whether it's your RAM whether

it is the VGA device or whether it's the

boot it can't find a boot drive whatever

it might be these will be very very

helpful and especially when you're doing

things like B flashing or when you're

doing memory training for the first time

and you're thinking oh God why have I

got no display this is taking forever

this board can take a very long time to

train the RAM for the first time I found

this out firsthand I've gone from being

like 3 minutes for a boot down to about

20 seconds so don't worry the first few

times it will take a long time but it

does get significantly better we have

also done a video on how to do that

which again I'll try and Link in the

video description if not just search m

unboxing for ddr5 and you'll soon find

it

anyway moving on from that so Ram slots

as we said so 192 or 196 gigs I never

get that right so 48 and 48 is 96 yeah

192 some quick math there or mathematics

if you're English uh so four Ram slots

supporting up to ddr5 7200 megga

transfers per second as always with am5

stuff uh memory speeds are somewhat in

limbo so don't expect to put four sticks

of 48 gig ram in there and them all to

work at 7200 megat transfers per second

with your processor is unlikely to

happen anyway moving on from the ram

slot so got the heat sink here tiny

little heat sink over the b650 chipset

not a great deal of heat generated by

that so it doesn't need a great deal so

that's absolutely fine um actually going

back up USB type-c front panel header

actually quite handy to have that

especially more modern technology

starting to see those being integrated

in cases now so that's handy underneath

that the old school USB 3.0 type A

headers

uh twin Port there you've also got four

SATA ports so one two and three four so

either coming at the bottom or coming

out the side whichever you want to use I

know someone's going to ask this um

those you can use and you can use both M

do2s at the same time the chipset

doesn't have any limitations in that

regard and also if you stick everything

in all your PCI slots there's no

disabling of sat Port so just to clarify

that uh they've done some pretty clever

stuff with the how the chipset works and

the lanes which are available from the

CPU so that all works you can plug

basically everything in at the same time

and it will still work uh let's go back

over to this section here so we've got a

TPM header if you want to use a separate

TPM the TPM headers were all the rage

about a year ago and then now they're

kind of like you never hear about it but

as soon as that was when Windows 11 came

out and was like oh my God I need TPM

anyway moving on uh there's another fan

header here on the back so if you've got

a chassis fan in this kind of area by

your rear AIO you can hook one up

straight to way there that's pretty

handy this slot here is your m.2 primary

m.2 this one is power from the CPU so

this is going to be PCI Express gen 4x4

unfortunately it's not PCI Express Gen 5

that would have been really nice to see

but part of the cutbacks and having the

other flexibility going on here is you

do have a slight reduction in speed for

that top slot underneath that PC Express

G4 again time 16 slot fully wired for

time 16 and also metal in there to

support it so for those slightly heavier

graphics cards uh underneath that PC

Express gen 3 * 1 ports so you got two

of those those I'm not too sure really

what you'd use those for in this

configuration Wi-Fi cards possibly

because this doesn't have Wi-Fi on it

but then you're going to find it awfully

close to the intake for your graphics

card so those are a little bit mute

points really you have got underneath

there as well another PCI Express G 4x4

m.2 slot both m.2 slots are nvme only so

don't expect to put SATA based m.2

drives on here they simply will not work

uh there's actually a really cool little

mechanism on here for attaching the

drives normally these two mounting

pillars are separate in bags when you

get the motherboard I've installed them

anyway just so you can see where they

are but it's got the MSI fast release

clip so essentially you probably see it

from Boll anyway you take the drive move

the clip round it flips out and you can

remove your drive so you don't need a

screwdriver apart from to install them

for the first time when you uh put them

onto the motherboard but after that

swapping drives very simple to do uh so

this one here front panel connections

above that there is a very very small

absolutely tiny you probably miss it if

you didn't know it was there another

addressable RGB header so literally just

between the heat sink there and the

front panel connector then you've got

jfp2 which is the extension of the front

panel connector that's for speakers or

buzzers that sort of thing next up there

is a pair of USB 2.0

headers next to the USB ports at the

bottom there there's the last of our fan

headers you also got chassis intrusion

and seos reset pins moving slightly

along from there there is a comport

header if you want to use an old

fashioned serial Port comp Port you can

do on there then there's another debug

port and our last RGB header so that's

12vt so you got two 12vt headers and two

5vt headers so pretty much all bases

covered there uh PC Express slots as we

said already next up we've got our

onboard audio so the audio on this isn't

great ALC 897 chipset by realtech

supports 5.1 7.1 all that kind of stuff

you can tie the ports together it's not

bad you have got some decent capacitors

on there so Rel ly low noise if you're

using the onboard sound again for what

this is kind of aimed at the kind of

lower-end budget bills or Business

Systems absolutely fine for most tasks

gaming all that sort of stuff if you

want better sign just plug in a headset

or you can get Dax Etc to plug in but

generally the 897 is tried and tested

and works pretty well and last but not

least on this section you got the

battery there for the BIOS little bit of

an unusual place and actually really

difficult to get to so if you do need to

reset your cosos for some reason and

it's not don't it by the pins if you

want to remove the battery you do

basically have to remove the graphics

card because that is going to be right

in the way you might be able to

carefully maneuver out but realistically

I think it's going to be a GPU out

situation moving around to the back here

don't get too excited there isn't a

great deal here got your bar flashback

button that's always a nice thing to do

we've also done a video on that so if

you want to see how to flash the bar on

one of these pretty straightforward as

long as you know which Port is for

actually flashing the bias which if

you're not too sure it's the bottom one

there underneath the PS S2 Port which is

basically documented in one place that I

could find online not in any of the

manuals not even on the box so yeah it

is that one I find out eventually so

HDMI and display port display port 1.4

HDMI 2.0 that's going to be great for

the upcoming 8,000 series apus which

will due out very shortly those look to

be really interesting with their rdna 3

chips based in them so yeah looking

forward to seeing what those uh are

actually like next up this is going to

be more for the business users so there

is a VGA port on there which I didn't

even think they worked with VJ these

days but clearly it does cuz they've got

the port on there so there you go uh PS2

again harking back to the kind of

business environment PS2 ports are still

used in businesses along with VJ ports

for older kit which is lying around two

USB 2.0's bottom one being fast

flashback another USB 2.0 pair of those

USB 3.0 that's gen 3.2 gen 1 and then

you've got your generation 2 or gener

USB 3.2 Gen 2 the fast report so those

are 5 GB per second those are 10 GB per

second and then above that you've got

the 2.5 gig Lan so real Tech RTL 8125

chipset as we said before backr is

compatible with um gigabit and 10100 and

then you got your three output Jacks

colorcoded so earphone or speakers on

the green blue is for line level and the

pink is for a microphone so there you go

there is a look at the MSI Pro b650 m-p

I got to be honest with you I got it for

£80 so I'm over the moon is fantastic

you cannot find a decent board for love

no money for that sort of money

realistically at the moment for the am5

sockets bear in mind this has got pretty

much everything that I would expect to

see from it so two m.2 slots tick four

Ram slots tick B flashback excellent

can't go wrong yeah uh addressable RGB

ports that's always a nice thing to see

it's just a great all-r board and this

reminds me a lot of the previous

generation the MSI B5 550 Pro vdh Wi-Fi

doesn't have the Wi-Fi a little bit of a

diner but in terms of the pro vdh that

was a great board it basically supported

everything and it was a little bit

cheaper was microatx and was one of

those kind of entry level boards which

give you basically all the features that

you'd want from the b550 chipset but at

a much lower cost and effectively this I

feel is its kind of spiritual successor

to it and yeah I'm pretty pleased with

it overall but what I think about it

doesn't really matter what you think

about it does so let us know in the

comments section what you think about

this Bo are you like to pick one up are

you going to be on the hunt for one are

you a little bit concerned that msi's

ddr5 boot times are a little bit on the

long side especially in comparison with

other manufacturers like I said earlier

this does share that problem um ddr5

speeds to begin with were absolutely

horr so I thought the board was dead but

after a little bit of tweaking and B

updates Etc now I've got it down to

actually booting into Windows within 20

seconds which I think is absolutely fine

but again let us know what you think in

the comments section I think it's going

to wrap this I've been Mike this is

Mike's unboxing reviews on how to and

hopefully we'll catch you in the very

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