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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,965 SHATNER: Driven by their darkest urges, 2 00:00:08,068 --> 00:00:13,103 sadistic predators stalk their victims 3 00:00:13,206 --> 00:00:18,172 in an effort to satisfy their need to kill. 4 00:00:21,137 --> 00:00:24,655 The horrible deeds done by serial killers 5 00:00:24,758 --> 00:00:26,344 give us a glimpse into the minds 6 00:00:26,448 --> 00:00:30,413 of humanity's most disturbed individuals. 7 00:00:30,517 --> 00:00:35,241 But what is it that separates so-called normal people 8 00:00:35,344 --> 00:00:38,965 from those who have an insatiable desire 9 00:00:39,068 --> 00:00:41,172 to take a life? 10 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:43,103 [gasps] 11 00:00:43,206 --> 00:00:46,068 That is what we'll try and find out. 12 00:00:49,344 --> 00:00:51,310 ♪ 13 00:01:08,172 --> 00:01:11,206 Detectives with cadaver dogs 14 00:01:11,310 --> 00:01:15,655 discover the badly decomposed remains of several women. 15 00:01:15,758 --> 00:01:19,413 They are found stuffed inside industrial barrels, 16 00:01:19,517 --> 00:01:23,689 on a farm belonging to John Edward Robinson. 17 00:01:26,517 --> 00:01:30,068 In 1993, during the early days of the Internet, 18 00:01:30,172 --> 00:01:33,206 Robinson, under the alias "Slavemaster," 19 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:38,103 prowled chat rooms in search of potential victims. 20 00:01:38,206 --> 00:01:40,517 He then lured them to his property. 21 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:43,482 As a gruesome consequence for his crimes, 22 00:01:43,586 --> 00:01:47,482 John Edward Robinson received the dubious distinction 23 00:01:47,586 --> 00:01:53,448 of being the Internet's first convicted serial killer. 24 00:01:53,551 --> 00:01:57,137 The Internet has really opened up, uh, the opportunities 25 00:01:57,241 --> 00:02:00,758 for serial killers to find, um, victims more easily. 26 00:02:02,241 --> 00:02:04,068 We've had serial killers who have actually 27 00:02:04,172 --> 00:02:05,482 a-attracted victims online 28 00:02:05,586 --> 00:02:07,586 to their homes, where they've killed them. 29 00:02:07,689 --> 00:02:09,137 Across state lines. 30 00:02:09,241 --> 00:02:11,413 They've offered work. They've offered sex. 31 00:02:11,517 --> 00:02:13,413 "Come to my home and I'll give you money." 32 00:02:13,517 --> 00:02:15,379 You know, one has to be very careful on the Internet, 33 00:02:15,482 --> 00:02:16,655 'cause you can be what-- whoever you want to be. 34 00:02:16,758 --> 00:02:19,482 And so, serial killers do find victims that way. 35 00:02:24,482 --> 00:02:27,068 - [barks] - While searching for a missing person 36 00:02:27,172 --> 00:02:29,206 just off Ocean Parkway, in Suffolk County, 37 00:02:29,310 --> 00:02:31,482 a police officer and his dog discover 38 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,413 the skeletal remains of a dead woman. 39 00:02:34,517 --> 00:02:38,517 Police later find that ten more mutilated bodies 40 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:41,172 have been disposed of in this area, 41 00:02:41,275 --> 00:02:45,448 and all in a similar fashion. 42 00:02:45,551 --> 00:02:47,655 JOE DOMANICK: The Suffolk County police found out 43 00:02:47,758 --> 00:02:49,517 that they had a serial killer in their midst 44 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:53,586 when they started finding bodies dumped. 45 00:02:53,689 --> 00:02:56,379 And really, the distinguishing thing 46 00:02:56,482 --> 00:02:58,620 that we know about these killings 47 00:02:58,724 --> 00:03:00,517 is that the police found out 48 00:03:00,620 --> 00:03:02,517 that many of them were prostitutes. 49 00:03:06,517 --> 00:03:09,551 SHATNER: As news of these shocking discoveries make headlines, 50 00:03:09,655 --> 00:03:11,724 the unknown murderer becomes known as 51 00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:14,655 the Long Island serial killer. 52 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:18,275 And once the bodies are identified, 53 00:03:18,379 --> 00:03:21,689 another eerie coincidence is discovered. 54 00:03:21,793 --> 00:03:25,241 Several of the victims had offered escort services 55 00:03:25,344 --> 00:03:28,275 on the Internet site Craigslist. 56 00:03:28,379 --> 00:03:30,310 HICKEY: Craigslist is another mask. 57 00:03:30,413 --> 00:03:33,724 It's another way to use social media to find victims. 58 00:03:33,827 --> 00:03:36,586 And, uh, it's another tool in their repertoire. 59 00:03:36,689 --> 00:03:40,241 So, in some ways, serial killers today 60 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:42,620 are becoming more sophisticated. 61 00:03:42,724 --> 00:03:46,379 Psychopaths feel a sense of power and control 62 00:03:46,482 --> 00:03:47,620 because they have so many different tools 63 00:03:47,724 --> 00:03:50,827 that they can use to create distractions 64 00:03:50,931 --> 00:03:52,551 and to create ruses. 65 00:03:53,689 --> 00:03:55,448 Narcissism and control 66 00:03:55,551 --> 00:03:58,137 are two of the character traits for serial killers. 67 00:03:58,241 --> 00:04:01,896 Certainly that fits for serial killers 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,448 who prey on women on the margins. 69 00:04:06,896 --> 00:04:08,896 SHATNER: Even though the Suffolk County police have offered 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,275 a $25,000 reward for information 71 00:04:12,379 --> 00:04:15,379 leading to an arrest in the Long Island murders-- 72 00:04:15,482 --> 00:04:17,689 the largest offered in the county's history-- 73 00:04:17,793 --> 00:04:22,448 to this day, the killer remains at large. 74 00:04:24,482 --> 00:04:28,275 But what compels someone like the Long Island serial killer 75 00:04:28,379 --> 00:04:33,068 or John Edward Robinson to commit cold-blooded murder 76 00:04:33,172 --> 00:04:35,482 again and again? 77 00:04:35,586 --> 00:04:40,896 What makes an otherwise normal human being a serial killer? 78 00:04:42,655 --> 00:04:45,620 A serial killer is defined as someone who kills 79 00:04:45,724 --> 00:04:47,413 three or more people 80 00:04:47,517 --> 00:04:50,724 with an emotional cooling-off period in between. 81 00:04:52,344 --> 00:04:54,413 Whereas a mass murderer 82 00:04:54,517 --> 00:04:57,620 will come in and kill three people at the same place. 83 00:04:57,724 --> 00:05:00,586 And a spree killer, he will kill, 84 00:05:00,689 --> 00:05:02,758 move onto the next, kill again, 85 00:05:02,862 --> 00:05:06,206 move onto the next, but there's no emotional cooling-off period. 86 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:08,482 A serial killer, it's like 87 00:05:08,586 --> 00:05:11,206 he or she gets a shot of emotional heroin. 88 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:16,413 SHATNER: The term "serial killer" was first coined in the mid-1970s 89 00:05:16,517 --> 00:05:20,827 by former FBI psychological profiler Robert Ressler. 90 00:05:20,931 --> 00:05:24,551 He picked the word "serial" because police described 91 00:05:24,655 --> 00:05:29,413 these types of murders as being crimes in a series. 92 00:05:30,965 --> 00:05:33,034 Serial killers are repetitive 93 00:05:33,137 --> 00:05:35,517 because there are things that drive them. 94 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:38,344 There's a fantasy involved with-with the killing. 95 00:05:38,448 --> 00:05:40,482 This is especially true if we're talking about 96 00:05:40,586 --> 00:05:43,482 sexual predators who are serial killers. 97 00:05:43,586 --> 00:05:46,689 JUDY HO: They just don't seem to have their emotions stimulated 98 00:05:46,793 --> 00:05:49,482 the way that a normal person's brain would. 99 00:05:49,586 --> 00:05:51,482 They just think about what's gonna feel good right now, 100 00:05:51,586 --> 00:05:54,448 and they don't routinely take other people's feelings 101 00:05:54,551 --> 00:05:56,310 into consideration, 102 00:05:56,413 --> 00:05:58,448 and engaging in all those analytical consequences 103 00:05:58,551 --> 00:06:00,275 and functions that people think about. 104 00:06:00,379 --> 00:06:05,413 HARVEY ROSENSTOCK: You don't have any kind of conscience at all, 105 00:06:05,517 --> 00:06:07,517 whether it's one murder or two murders or three murders. 106 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:10,551 The person who is committing a crime and another crime 107 00:06:10,655 --> 00:06:13,517 and another crime, the only deterrent, 108 00:06:13,620 --> 00:06:18,344 the only place where he has some qualms, some regrets, 109 00:06:18,448 --> 00:06:20,517 is if, in fact, he does get caught. 110 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:24,793 VAN ZANDT: The FBI has said there's maybe 50 serial killers 111 00:06:24,896 --> 00:06:27,896 operating in the United States at any one time. 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,724 Do we have a lock on who they are? Well, no. 113 00:06:30,827 --> 00:06:34,310 They would be under arrest if we did. 114 00:06:34,413 --> 00:06:35,689 We don't know who they are. 115 00:06:35,793 --> 00:06:38,482 We can't identify who they are. 116 00:06:38,586 --> 00:06:41,379 We don't know that they're a serial killer 117 00:06:41,482 --> 00:06:45,551 until we find the victims that they've killed. 118 00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:49,000 We also know that when we find them, the big secret 119 00:06:49,103 --> 00:06:54,689 is that we will never be able to rehabilitate them. 120 00:06:54,793 --> 00:06:58,034 SHATNER: If serial killers are so difficult to profile, 121 00:06:58,137 --> 00:07:02,551 and nearly impossible to detect, 122 00:07:02,655 --> 00:07:06,034 is there any way we can ever feel safe? 123 00:07:06,137 --> 00:07:08,620 Perhaps the answers can be found by examining the case 124 00:07:08,724 --> 00:07:12,793 of America's very first serial killer, 125 00:07:12,896 --> 00:07:17,068 and the sadistic lair that he called 126 00:07:17,172 --> 00:07:18,965 The Murder Castle. 127 00:07:26,689 --> 00:07:30,448 An estimated 27 million people from all over the world flock 128 00:07:30,551 --> 00:07:33,620 to the World's Columbian Exposition, 129 00:07:33,724 --> 00:07:37,758 otherwise known as the Chicago World's Fair. 130 00:07:37,862 --> 00:07:40,931 It is so named in honor of the 400th anniversary 131 00:07:41,034 --> 00:07:44,758 of Christopher Columbus's landing in the New World. 132 00:07:44,862 --> 00:07:48,448 Having risen from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire, 133 00:07:48,551 --> 00:07:51,517 the city now shines brighter than ever, 134 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:53,413 illuminating the fairgrounds 135 00:07:53,517 --> 00:07:57,137 with nearly 100,000 electric lamps. 136 00:07:57,241 --> 00:07:59,586 - But... - [footsteps echoing] 137 00:07:59,689 --> 00:08:03,896 lurking in the shadows is a sadistic killer... 138 00:08:05,655 --> 00:08:09,000 ...Herman Webster Mudgett, 139 00:08:09,103 --> 00:08:13,103 better known by his alias H.H. Holmes. 140 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:17,827 MORRISON: H.H. Holmes was extremely clever. 141 00:08:17,931 --> 00:08:19,758 He was a pharmacist, actually. 142 00:08:19,862 --> 00:08:24,068 His home was set up for single women 143 00:08:24,172 --> 00:08:28,068 who came to the city to make their way, to get involved, 144 00:08:28,172 --> 00:08:32,931 to become part of this wonderful exposition that was going on. 145 00:08:33,034 --> 00:08:38,137 So H.H. Holmes had access to many, many single women... 146 00:08:40,103 --> 00:08:41,586 ...and he murdered them. 147 00:08:43,034 --> 00:08:46,448 HICKEY: Holmes had spent a great deal of time 148 00:08:46,551 --> 00:08:48,724 in preparation for his murders. 149 00:08:48,827 --> 00:08:51,206 It wasn't like it was on impulse. 150 00:08:51,310 --> 00:08:53,517 There was a lot of control here. 151 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:55,758 I think that he enjoyed 152 00:08:55,862 --> 00:08:58,517 the, uh, power he had over people in general. 153 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:01,103 And the World's Fair really played out well for him. 154 00:09:01,206 --> 00:09:03,517 SHATNER: Holmes became rich 155 00:09:03,620 --> 00:09:07,172 as a cunning and charismatic con artist. 156 00:09:07,275 --> 00:09:09,896 He swindled several people out of their fortunes, 157 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 and used the proceeds to build a one-of-a-kind mansion 158 00:09:13,103 --> 00:09:16,172 which allowed him to pursue his darkest desires. 159 00:09:18,896 --> 00:09:22,482 The macabre edifice would eventually become known 160 00:09:22,586 --> 00:09:26,620 as Holmes's Murder Castle. 161 00:09:26,724 --> 00:09:32,000 H.H. Holmes built this phenomenally complex castle 162 00:09:32,103 --> 00:09:35,931 with enough rooms that he could rent rooms to people 163 00:09:36,034 --> 00:09:39,586 who came in for the exposition, mostly single women, 164 00:09:39,689 --> 00:09:42,689 and he would go out and advertise this, 165 00:09:42,793 --> 00:09:44,827 bring people in, put them in these rooms 166 00:09:44,931 --> 00:09:47,689 where they felt they were safe. 167 00:09:48,965 --> 00:09:51,931 It was almost like the spider to the fly. 168 00:09:52,034 --> 00:09:55,137 It was like, "Come and see my mansion, 169 00:09:55,241 --> 00:09:57,551 an elaborate mansion." 170 00:09:57,655 --> 00:10:00,068 He had all kinds of odd staircases 171 00:10:00,172 --> 00:10:03,034 - and tunnels and chutes and things. - [woman screams] 172 00:10:03,137 --> 00:10:06,724 So then he would gas these victims 173 00:10:06,827 --> 00:10:09,758 and then send them down the chute into the basement. 174 00:10:11,103 --> 00:10:14,379 And then torture them, or if they were already dead, 175 00:10:14,482 --> 00:10:17,068 then he could take-take apart the bodies and-- which he did. 176 00:10:18,931 --> 00:10:20,965 SHATNER: On November 17, 1894, 177 00:10:21,068 --> 00:10:23,655 the man known as America's first serial killer 178 00:10:23,758 --> 00:10:25,896 was finally arrested, 179 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,931 but only then did investigators begin to learn the full extent 180 00:10:29,034 --> 00:10:32,931 of H.H. Holmes's murderous behavior. 181 00:10:33,034 --> 00:10:36,689 After confessing to the murders of 27 young women, 182 00:10:36,793 --> 00:10:41,034 on May 7, 1896, Holmes, 183 00:10:41,137 --> 00:10:45,275 now referred to by the press as "the Devil in the White City" 184 00:10:45,379 --> 00:10:48,172 was hanged by the neck until dead. 185 00:10:51,034 --> 00:10:55,655 But what led an otherwise normal and unassuming man 186 00:10:55,758 --> 00:10:58,206 to not only commit murders but to construct 187 00:10:58,310 --> 00:11:01,241 such an elaborate house of horror? 188 00:11:03,931 --> 00:11:06,620 Perhaps the answer can be found by exploring the lair 189 00:11:06,724 --> 00:11:09,620 of yet another serial killer, 190 00:11:09,724 --> 00:11:12,896 one created almost a century later. 191 00:11:26,655 --> 00:11:29,793 SHATNER: Police officers responding to a complaint 192 00:11:29,896 --> 00:11:33,551 arrive at the apartment of a man by the name of Jeffrey Dahmer, 193 00:11:33,655 --> 00:11:36,896 apartment number 213. 194 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,137 But what happens next defies explanation. 195 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:44,931 HICKEY: When the police arrived at his apartment, 196 00:11:45,034 --> 00:11:47,448 they went toward his bedroom, and when they opened the door, 197 00:11:47,551 --> 00:11:49,758 his bedroom was full of body parts. 198 00:11:50,758 --> 00:11:54,551 Torsos and heads here and there. 199 00:11:55,862 --> 00:11:58,551 SHATNER: The police made even more shocking discoveries: 200 00:11:58,655 --> 00:12:01,034 a 57-gallon vat of acid, 201 00:12:01,137 --> 00:12:04,103 photos of grotesquely mangled bodies, 202 00:12:04,206 --> 00:12:05,931 partially eaten organs, 203 00:12:06,034 --> 00:12:09,896 and inside the refrigerator, a human head. 204 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,068 In all, the apartment contained the remains of 11 human victims, 205 00:12:14,172 --> 00:12:18,068 men and boys who police later determined had been murdered, 206 00:12:18,172 --> 00:12:21,241 dismembered and even eaten 207 00:12:21,344 --> 00:12:24,137 by the man who soon became known as 208 00:12:24,241 --> 00:12:27,655 the "Milwaukee Monster." 209 00:12:27,758 --> 00:12:29,793 Jeffrey Dahmer was a serial killer 210 00:12:29,896 --> 00:12:34,655 who usually chose his victims, uh, in young men, 211 00:12:34,758 --> 00:12:36,896 usually around their teenage years. 212 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,000 He would usually find a way with drugs or alcohol and sex 213 00:12:42,103 --> 00:12:46,103 to compel victims to come back to his apartment, 214 00:12:46,206 --> 00:12:47,931 where he would murder them. 215 00:12:48,034 --> 00:12:49,724 Many times, he'd cut up the bodies. 216 00:12:49,827 --> 00:12:51,724 He would save pieces of the body in his freezer 217 00:12:51,827 --> 00:12:54,482 and his refrigerator. 218 00:12:54,586 --> 00:12:56,655 HICKEY: The stench of a decomposing body 219 00:12:56,758 --> 00:12:58,896 is absolutely overwhelming, and yet, 220 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,103 Dahmer became acclimated to it. 221 00:13:01,206 --> 00:13:03,620 His fantasy was-was 222 00:13:03,724 --> 00:13:05,172 to make this table, which he, which he built, 223 00:13:05,275 --> 00:13:07,551 and he took the heads of some of his victims 224 00:13:07,655 --> 00:13:09,724 and placed them on the desk, 225 00:13:09,827 --> 00:13:11,758 where he could sit and be surrounded 226 00:13:11,862 --> 00:13:14,896 by all of these skulls of people that he had eaten. 227 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,103 These were his friends; these were people he loved 228 00:13:17,206 --> 00:13:18,896 in his own fantasy world. 229 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,827 JUDGE: Mr. Dahmer, you're charged with four counts 230 00:13:21,931 --> 00:13:23,724 of first-degree intentional homicide. 231 00:13:23,827 --> 00:13:27,068 - Do you understand that? - I understand, Your Honor. 232 00:13:27,172 --> 00:13:30,965 SHATNER: Like H.H. Holmes before him, Jeffrey Dahmer was not content 233 00:13:31,068 --> 00:13:32,862 with the mere taking of human lives. 234 00:13:32,965 --> 00:13:34,344 Instead, he sought to construct 235 00:13:34,448 --> 00:13:37,068 the equivalent of a virtual world-- 236 00:13:37,172 --> 00:13:41,827 an alternate reality dedicated to his deviant fixations. 237 00:13:43,068 --> 00:13:46,862 But what causes an otherwise average and unremarkable man 238 00:13:46,965 --> 00:13:50,275 like Jeffrey Dahmer to become a bloodthirsty serial killer? 239 00:13:51,758 --> 00:13:53,793 One person who believes he may have 240 00:13:53,896 --> 00:13:56,068 at least a few of the answers 241 00:13:56,172 --> 00:14:00,586 is graphic novelist and former Dahmer classmate 242 00:14:00,689 --> 00:14:02,241 John Backderf. 243 00:14:02,344 --> 00:14:04,034 In 2012, 244 00:14:04,137 --> 00:14:08,000 nearly two decades after Dahmer was beaten to death in prison, 245 00:14:08,103 --> 00:14:11,206 Backderf published My Friend Dahmer, 246 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:15,724 a series of illustrated stories that chronicle 247 00:14:15,827 --> 00:14:18,517 the future serial killer's high school years. 248 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:21,034 BACKDERF: We went to junior high and high school together, 249 00:14:21,137 --> 00:14:25,965 and were friends from age 12 to when we graduated. 250 00:14:26,068 --> 00:14:27,896 He was always a pretty strange dude, 251 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,758 kind of an oddball, and he got darker and darker 252 00:14:30,862 --> 00:14:34,689 as our time together went on. 253 00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:36,551 SHATNER: In his depictions of Dahmer, 254 00:14:36,655 --> 00:14:39,793 Backderf sought to reveal the warning signs that were present 255 00:14:39,896 --> 00:14:42,965 in the young, troubled man's demeanor. 256 00:14:44,137 --> 00:14:46,000 BACKDERF: When I draw Dahmer, 257 00:14:46,103 --> 00:14:49,137 I try to capture the blank expression, the dead eyes. 258 00:14:49,241 --> 00:14:53,172 I purposely make him look uncomfortable in his own body, 259 00:14:53,275 --> 00:14:55,275 because that's how I remember him. 260 00:14:55,379 --> 00:14:57,172 He was kind of, like, robotic, 261 00:14:57,275 --> 00:15:02,655 like he didn't physically fit in with the rest of humanity, 262 00:15:02,758 --> 00:15:04,862 which, of course, he didn't. 263 00:15:04,965 --> 00:15:07,344 Jeff was very much a blank canvas. 264 00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:09,448 You never knew what was going on 265 00:15:09,551 --> 00:15:11,275 behind this blank wall of a face. 266 00:15:11,379 --> 00:15:13,758 And of course, that's something that later became 267 00:15:13,862 --> 00:15:15,172 a very lethal trait, 268 00:15:15,275 --> 00:15:18,000 because his victims had no idea what was coming. 269 00:15:18,103 --> 00:15:21,275 Part of Dahmer's schoolyard legend 270 00:15:21,379 --> 00:15:24,241 was clubhouse, where he kept roadkill 271 00:15:24,344 --> 00:15:26,862 that he found around the neighborhood, small animals. 272 00:15:26,965 --> 00:15:28,862 And he would keep them in pickle jars. 273 00:15:28,965 --> 00:15:30,896 He would actually dissect these roadkill. 274 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,896 SHATNER: Was Dahmer's so-called clubhouse 275 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,137 a chilling precursor to apartment number 213, 276 00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:40,137 the place where his adolescent fascination 277 00:15:40,241 --> 00:15:42,827 with animal carcasses escalated 278 00:15:42,931 --> 00:15:47,137 into an uncontrollable obsession of dismemberment, 279 00:15:47,241 --> 00:15:52,172 necrophilia and, most notoriously, cannibalism? 280 00:15:52,275 --> 00:15:54,034 We try to make sense 281 00:15:54,137 --> 00:15:56,827 of something that seems so primitive 282 00:15:56,931 --> 00:15:59,724 and so out of the ordinary. 283 00:15:59,827 --> 00:16:02,413 A human being eating another human being? 284 00:16:02,517 --> 00:16:04,275 But this is not a human being, 285 00:16:04,379 --> 00:16:07,724 and he doesn't see his victim as a human being. 286 00:16:07,827 --> 00:16:09,793 It's just a piece of meat. 287 00:16:09,896 --> 00:16:11,551 BACKDERF: I never felt like I knew Jeff. 288 00:16:11,655 --> 00:16:13,241 I don't think anyone knew him. 289 00:16:13,344 --> 00:16:17,275 I never dreamed that he would commit crimes like this. 290 00:16:18,931 --> 00:16:21,068 How is it that we're so unaware 291 00:16:21,172 --> 00:16:23,448 of the monsters that walk among us? 292 00:16:24,482 --> 00:16:26,655 SHATNER: Does Jeffrey Dahmer's childhood 293 00:16:26,758 --> 00:16:30,137 suggest that serial killers develop their dark impulses 294 00:16:30,241 --> 00:16:31,931 early in life? 295 00:16:32,034 --> 00:16:34,275 And if so, then why aren't we able to spot them 296 00:16:34,379 --> 00:16:36,275 before it's too late? 297 00:16:45,862 --> 00:16:49,068 After more than a decade of denials, 298 00:16:49,172 --> 00:16:51,551 and mere moments away from his execution, 299 00:16:51,655 --> 00:16:54,344 Ted Bundy confesses to 30 homicides. 300 00:16:56,275 --> 00:16:57,931 [woman screaming] 301 00:16:58,034 --> 00:17:02,068 It was a trail of death that spanned many years 302 00:17:02,172 --> 00:17:05,862 and stretched from Washington state to Florida. 303 00:17:05,965 --> 00:17:08,620 I can only liken it to-- after, you know, 304 00:17:08,724 --> 00:17:11,551 I don't want to overdramatize it-- 305 00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:14,103 but to have been possessed 306 00:17:14,206 --> 00:17:16,896 by something so awful and so alien, 307 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,275 and then, the next morning, wake up from it. 308 00:17:21,862 --> 00:17:25,931 STRAND: He was everything, as the media loved saying, 309 00:17:26,034 --> 00:17:29,931 that you would expect a fine young American man to be. 310 00:17:30,034 --> 00:17:31,620 The kind of guy that women would want 311 00:17:31,724 --> 00:17:33,172 to bring home to the parents. 312 00:17:33,275 --> 00:17:35,931 JUDGE: You're a bright young man. 313 00:17:36,034 --> 00:17:37,448 You'd have made a good lawyer. 314 00:17:37,551 --> 00:17:39,137 I'd have loved to have you practice in front of me. 315 00:17:39,241 --> 00:17:41,103 But you went another way, partner. 316 00:17:41,206 --> 00:17:45,137 STRAND: And yet here he was, sneaking around Seattle, 317 00:17:45,241 --> 00:17:47,862 with his Volkswagen with the seat removed 318 00:17:47,965 --> 00:17:50,758 so that he could transport bodies. 319 00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:53,137 He was psychopathic. 320 00:17:53,241 --> 00:17:56,862 SHATNER: But how could an otherwise clean-cut 321 00:17:56,965 --> 00:17:59,344 and educated young man like Ted Bundy 322 00:17:59,448 --> 00:18:03,551 become a cold-blooded, psychopathic killer? 323 00:18:05,275 --> 00:18:07,655 VAN ZANDT: Serial killers look like any of us; 324 00:18:07,758 --> 00:18:09,965 therefore they look like all of us. 325 00:18:10,068 --> 00:18:12,137 There are those individuals that have the ability 326 00:18:12,241 --> 00:18:14,310 to wear the mask all the time. 327 00:18:14,413 --> 00:18:16,310 You can never see through that mask 328 00:18:16,413 --> 00:18:18,965 until they want you to see it, 329 00:18:19,068 --> 00:18:21,275 and usually that's when you've become a victim. 330 00:18:21,379 --> 00:18:23,379 MORRISON: When we find them, 331 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:27,241 we can't figure out why they do what they do. 332 00:18:27,344 --> 00:18:30,896 How they're able to commit so many crimes 333 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,103 without being found. 334 00:18:33,206 --> 00:18:36,517 SHATNER: Perhaps an even more shocking example 335 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:40,206 of how adept serial killers can be at hiding in plain sight 336 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:42,896 can be found by examining the case of a man 337 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 who everyone thought was a selfless veteran 338 00:18:46,103 --> 00:18:50,310 until they found out what he was hiding inside his house. 339 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:02,103 [siren wailing] 340 00:19:02,206 --> 00:19:04,275 SHATNER: Police arrive at the home of Anthony Sowell 341 00:19:04,379 --> 00:19:07,931 with a warrant to arrest him for an alleged rape. 342 00:19:08,034 --> 00:19:09,586 Before they even enter the house, 343 00:19:09,689 --> 00:19:13,931 they get their first hint of the horror that awaits them inside. 344 00:19:14,034 --> 00:19:16,827 As soon as they open the door of the house, in the first place, 345 00:19:16,931 --> 00:19:19,000 there is a... a horrific stench. 346 00:19:19,103 --> 00:19:21,137 [flies buzzing] 347 00:19:21,241 --> 00:19:23,137 They get up to the third floor, 348 00:19:23,241 --> 00:19:25,931 and the lead officer sees dead bodies. 349 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:28,413 The bodies were so decomposed 350 00:19:28,517 --> 00:19:32,172 that he couldn't even recognize them as human figures. 351 00:19:32,275 --> 00:19:35,896 At that time, the county coroner came out, 352 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,068 started taking evidence from the scene. 353 00:19:38,172 --> 00:19:40,172 It was a long night. 354 00:19:40,275 --> 00:19:42,482 SHATNER: In total, investigators recovered the bodies 355 00:19:42,586 --> 00:19:44,965 of 11 women, 356 00:19:45,068 --> 00:19:47,793 choked to death by the man who would become known 357 00:19:47,896 --> 00:19:50,241 as the Cleveland Strangler. 358 00:19:50,344 --> 00:19:52,379 Sowell committed these murders 359 00:19:52,482 --> 00:19:55,172 over the course of just two years, 360 00:19:55,275 --> 00:19:57,379 all without leaving his hometown 361 00:19:57,482 --> 00:20:00,241 and without raising the suspicions of the community. 362 00:20:00,344 --> 00:20:02,344 SBERNA: The neighbors were shocked 363 00:20:02,448 --> 00:20:05,068 that they were living next door to a serial killer. 364 00:20:05,172 --> 00:20:08,310 He seemed like a charming, helpful, quiet, former Marine. 365 00:20:08,413 --> 00:20:12,241 He was named Honor Marine of his boot camp. 366 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:14,965 Was discharged honorably as a sergeant. 367 00:20:15,068 --> 00:20:17,448 Nobody suspected what he was hiding in his house. 368 00:20:17,551 --> 00:20:21,000 It was very important for him to be seen as a helper. 369 00:20:21,103 --> 00:20:22,896 There were elderly people in the neighborhood 370 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,620 and single women that he would perform household tasks for-- 371 00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:28,103 mow their lawn, fix their sink. 372 00:20:28,206 --> 00:20:31,034 An individual who tends to be psychopathic 373 00:20:31,137 --> 00:20:34,241 can have very strong connections to the community, 374 00:20:34,344 --> 00:20:37,448 and typically is very difficult to track down, 375 00:20:37,551 --> 00:20:40,448 because it's a very opportunistic crime. 376 00:20:40,551 --> 00:20:44,172 A person who takes advantage of a situation on the spot 377 00:20:44,275 --> 00:20:46,241 to do something impulsive. 378 00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:49,896 SHATNER: In hindsight, Sowell's efforts to portray himself 379 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,034 as an upstanding member of the community 380 00:20:52,137 --> 00:20:55,344 were merely a cover for his evil side. 381 00:20:55,448 --> 00:20:58,241 According to all accounts, he was born into a dark world 382 00:20:58,344 --> 00:21:02,862 of both physical and emotional abuse. 383 00:21:02,965 --> 00:21:05,551 SBERNA: Anthony Sowell was a product of a broken home. 384 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:08,068 He was raised by his mother and grandmother 385 00:21:08,172 --> 00:21:10,206 in a large house in East Cleveland. 386 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:12,517 14 people were living in that house. 387 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:15,551 His mother was physically abusive to the children. 388 00:21:15,655 --> 00:21:18,517 Her favorite targets were Anthony Sowell's nieces. 389 00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:21,379 She'd strip them naked, tie them to a banister, 390 00:21:21,482 --> 00:21:24,137 then she'd whip them till they were bloody. 391 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:27,000 From an early age, he associated sex with violence. 392 00:21:27,103 --> 00:21:29,965 As an adult, whipping naked women 393 00:21:30,068 --> 00:21:33,103 is exactly the pattern that he recreated. 394 00:21:33,206 --> 00:21:37,206 So from the earliest time that he could possibly remember, 395 00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:42,034 there is no foundation of any kind of real morality. 396 00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:44,275 His mother didn't particularly feel sorry for him. 397 00:21:44,379 --> 00:21:47,310 Why should he feel sorry for somebody else? 398 00:21:47,413 --> 00:21:49,931 SHATNER: In the mid-1980s, 399 00:21:50,034 --> 00:21:52,827 after serving seven years in the Marine Corps, 400 00:21:52,931 --> 00:21:55,448 Sowell returned to his childhood home in Cleveland 401 00:21:55,551 --> 00:21:59,379 and almost immediately found himself in trouble with the law. 402 00:22:00,413 --> 00:22:03,103 He had some arrests for drinking, 403 00:22:03,206 --> 00:22:05,103 drug use and breaking and enterings. 404 00:22:05,206 --> 00:22:08,586 Until 1989. Met a woman. 405 00:22:08,689 --> 00:22:11,551 Brought her home, took her upstairs to the third floor 406 00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:13,310 where he said they were gonna party, 407 00:22:13,413 --> 00:22:17,103 and then he raped her violently over a 24-hour period. 408 00:22:17,206 --> 00:22:19,137 - [woman screaming] - She's able to yell and scream, 409 00:22:19,241 --> 00:22:20,655 get the attention of neighbors. 410 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:25,034 She testifies against him in court. 411 00:22:25,137 --> 00:22:26,758 He goes away for 15 years. 412 00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:33,413 SHATNER: When he was released from prison in 2005, 413 00:22:33,517 --> 00:22:36,103 Anthony Sowell was not only an ex-con 414 00:22:36,206 --> 00:22:38,517 but a registered sex offender. 415 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:41,448 So, how was he able to avoid suspicion 416 00:22:41,551 --> 00:22:44,965 and commit murder practically in his own backyard, 417 00:22:45,068 --> 00:22:47,724 and not once but 11 times? 418 00:22:49,655 --> 00:22:53,689 Anthony Sowell would, uh, charm women with his personality. 419 00:22:53,793 --> 00:22:56,344 There were quite a few people that had drug problems 420 00:22:56,448 --> 00:22:57,724 living in the neighborhood. 421 00:22:57,827 --> 00:22:59,103 Sowell was fairly popular 422 00:22:59,206 --> 00:23:00,586 because he was the man with crack. 423 00:23:00,689 --> 00:23:04,448 Sowell's victims were typically African American females 424 00:23:04,551 --> 00:23:07,758 who had drug problems and were transient. 425 00:23:07,862 --> 00:23:10,655 Sowell was a prototypical malignant narcissist, 426 00:23:10,758 --> 00:23:14,620 extremely self-absorbed to the point of committing murder 427 00:23:14,724 --> 00:23:18,241 to gain whatever he needed to gain. 428 00:23:18,344 --> 00:23:20,689 Many serial killers are very charming, 429 00:23:20,793 --> 00:23:23,137 and that's actually how they get close to their victim, 430 00:23:23,241 --> 00:23:24,758 close enough to actually do the deed. 431 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:27,620 Psychopaths are known to be able to manipulate 432 00:23:27,724 --> 00:23:30,275 their social prowess, and many of them actually have 433 00:23:30,379 --> 00:23:32,620 very high emotional intelligence. 434 00:23:32,724 --> 00:23:34,103 It's just that they decide when they're gonna 435 00:23:34,206 --> 00:23:35,241 use it and when they're not. 436 00:23:35,344 --> 00:23:38,068 [echoing laughter] 437 00:23:38,172 --> 00:23:39,620 MORRISON: Their first victim, 438 00:23:39,724 --> 00:23:41,724 we don't know why they choose them. 439 00:23:41,827 --> 00:23:44,448 We don't know if it's because they're available 440 00:23:44,551 --> 00:23:47,448 or because they've had a thought about this. 441 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:51,448 Out of all the 50 people that may be in that bar, 442 00:23:51,551 --> 00:23:54,137 why do they choose that one person 443 00:23:54,241 --> 00:23:55,758 that they know will go with them? 444 00:23:55,862 --> 00:23:59,137 Why and how do they know 445 00:23:59,241 --> 00:24:02,551 that that individual will be cooperative? 446 00:24:02,655 --> 00:24:05,586 A lot of people say it's because they're available, 447 00:24:05,689 --> 00:24:09,310 they're not gonna be missed, so forth and so on, 448 00:24:09,413 --> 00:24:11,724 but that's too simple an explanation. 449 00:24:12,931 --> 00:24:16,310 SHATNER: Today, Anthony Sowell resides on death row 450 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:19,827 in Chillicothe Correctional Institution in Ohio. 451 00:24:19,931 --> 00:24:23,172 In addition to the 11 murders he was convicted for, 452 00:24:23,275 --> 00:24:25,068 Sowell is believed to have carried out 453 00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:26,689 dozens of rapes and assaults 454 00:24:26,793 --> 00:24:29,241 over a period of more than four decades 455 00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:31,413 before he was stopped. 456 00:24:31,517 --> 00:24:34,655 But did Anthony Sowell become a serial killer 457 00:24:34,758 --> 00:24:38,275 because of the abuse he suffered at the hands of his mother? 458 00:24:38,379 --> 00:24:41,551 Or was he, as some experts believe, 459 00:24:41,655 --> 00:24:44,896 simply born bad? 460 00:24:57,655 --> 00:24:59,517 SHATNER: 15-year-old Robert Piest 461 00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:01,586 is working the afternoon shift 462 00:25:01,689 --> 00:25:04,689 at Nisson Pharmacy when he overhears a customer 463 00:25:04,793 --> 00:25:08,241 say that he's looking for help with a remodeling job. 464 00:25:08,344 --> 00:25:10,172 It will pay five dollars an hour, 465 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:11,862 almost double the pay 466 00:25:11,965 --> 00:25:14,172 that Piest makes at the pharmacy. 467 00:25:14,275 --> 00:25:16,310 At 9:00 p.m., 468 00:25:16,413 --> 00:25:19,137 Robert leaves the store to get started 469 00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:22,586 for his new employer: John Wayne Gacy. 470 00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:26,379 VAN ZANDT: John Wayne Gacy ran a construction company. 471 00:25:26,482 --> 00:25:30,103 And he would offer young boys jobs 472 00:25:30,206 --> 00:25:31,689 for his construction company, 473 00:25:31,793 --> 00:25:33,724 and, of course, they wanted to get jobs. 474 00:25:33,827 --> 00:25:35,793 HICKEY: He'd say, "You're looking for a job? 475 00:25:35,896 --> 00:25:37,172 Come over to my house." 476 00:25:37,275 --> 00:25:38,517 When the victim got there, 477 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:39,827 he'd say, "By the way, did I ever show you 478 00:25:39,931 --> 00:25:41,172 the old handcuff trick?" 479 00:25:41,275 --> 00:25:43,586 So, he'd put him in handcuffs 480 00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:45,275 behind his back, and once that happened, 481 00:25:45,379 --> 00:25:46,551 it was over. 482 00:25:46,655 --> 00:25:49,275 - [siren wailing] - SHATNER: Ten days after 483 00:25:49,379 --> 00:25:51,103 Robert Piest's family reported him missing, 484 00:25:51,206 --> 00:25:54,206 police arrive at John Gacy's home 485 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:57,344 and uncover a grisly scene. 486 00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:01,862 When law enforcement went into the basement 487 00:26:01,965 --> 00:26:03,724 to investigate, 488 00:26:03,827 --> 00:26:07,275 they found 33 bodies in the basement. 489 00:26:07,379 --> 00:26:10,620 The earth was moving, shaking everywhere 490 00:26:10,724 --> 00:26:12,862 because there were millions of worms in the bodies. 491 00:26:14,241 --> 00:26:16,137 It was one of the most horrific 492 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,137 crime scenes in American history. 493 00:26:18,241 --> 00:26:20,310 KAREN KUZMA: During the daytime, 494 00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:23,241 he led a life of running a business. 495 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:26,758 And then at night, during a period of years, 496 00:26:26,862 --> 00:26:30,137 he apparently went out and killed these men. 497 00:26:30,241 --> 00:26:33,310 And how often? Nobody knows. 498 00:26:33,413 --> 00:26:35,551 It's still all a mystery. 499 00:26:36,551 --> 00:26:39,206 SHATNER: Between 1972 and 1978, 500 00:26:39,310 --> 00:26:41,000 John Wayne Gacy 501 00:26:41,103 --> 00:26:45,586 murdered at least 33 teenage boys and young men. 502 00:26:46,551 --> 00:26:48,241 But perhaps even more disturbing 503 00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:50,793 is the fact that often during the murders, 504 00:26:50,896 --> 00:26:53,551 Gacy liked to dress up like a circus clown. 505 00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:55,620 It was a character he had created 506 00:26:55,724 --> 00:26:59,689 for fundraising events and children's birthday parties. 507 00:26:59,793 --> 00:27:02,241 Gacy's deceptions were so effective 508 00:27:02,344 --> 00:27:03,896 that he once even had his picture taken 509 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,413 with Rosalynn Carter, 510 00:27:05,517 --> 00:27:08,517 the first lady of the United States. 511 00:27:09,689 --> 00:27:12,482 John Gacy was extremely active in his community. 512 00:27:12,586 --> 00:27:15,241 He would give parties, barbecues, 513 00:27:15,344 --> 00:27:18,137 200 people, for all of his neighbors. 514 00:27:20,172 --> 00:27:22,724 SHATNER: But looming beneath Gacy's baby-faced grin 515 00:27:22,827 --> 00:27:26,586 and child-friendly persona was a deeply troubled man 516 00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:30,448 who was plagued by a toxic mix of childhood trauma 517 00:27:30,551 --> 00:27:32,896 and mental defects. 518 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,758 My dad was a drinker. 519 00:27:36,793 --> 00:27:39,310 John was always criticized by my father. 520 00:27:39,413 --> 00:27:41,482 He had a learning disability. 521 00:27:41,586 --> 00:27:43,310 He had problems. They had to take him 522 00:27:43,413 --> 00:27:45,689 and put him in a special school. 523 00:27:45,793 --> 00:27:47,793 My father would always say to him, 524 00:27:47,896 --> 00:27:50,344 you know, "You act like a sissy." 525 00:27:50,448 --> 00:27:52,724 You know, "You need to be more of a man." 526 00:27:53,896 --> 00:27:57,551 My mom told me that John had been sexually assaulted 527 00:27:57,655 --> 00:28:01,793 when he was around eight or nine years of age. 528 00:28:01,896 --> 00:28:05,724 John never said a word about his abuse or-or anything. 529 00:28:07,034 --> 00:28:12,586 It's hard for me to fathom that John killed 33 young men. 530 00:28:13,586 --> 00:28:17,448 But my brain tells me he had to have. 531 00:28:17,551 --> 00:28:19,000 [indistinct shouting] 532 00:28:19,103 --> 00:28:21,482 SHATNER: On May 10, 1994, 533 00:28:21,586 --> 00:28:23,482 an estimated 1,000 people 534 00:28:23,586 --> 00:28:25,689 gathered in the early morning hours 535 00:28:25,793 --> 00:28:28,862 as the man now known as the Killer Clown 536 00:28:28,965 --> 00:28:32,000 was executed by lethal injection. 537 00:28:33,551 --> 00:28:35,482 But in the wake of his death, 538 00:28:35,586 --> 00:28:38,827 one last question had to be considered. 539 00:28:38,931 --> 00:28:42,758 Could John Wayne Gacy's dark impulses 540 00:28:42,862 --> 00:28:45,758 have been genetically hardwired inside him? 541 00:28:45,862 --> 00:28:49,551 KUZMA: I think everybody tries to figure out 542 00:28:49,655 --> 00:28:52,241 what type of person is a serial killer. 543 00:28:52,344 --> 00:28:56,965 Is this something that I have to worry about with my children 544 00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:58,551 or my children's children? 545 00:28:58,655 --> 00:29:00,448 Is it there in-in the genes, 546 00:29:00,551 --> 00:29:03,896 or is it something that created a problem? 547 00:29:05,482 --> 00:29:08,344 SHATNER: In an effort to find a possible clinical explanation 548 00:29:08,448 --> 00:29:10,862 for Gacy's horrific crimes, 549 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:13,482 forensic psychiatrist Dr. Helen Morrison, 550 00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,827 who had served as an expert witness at the trial, 551 00:29:15,931 --> 00:29:18,896 made a bold request of the killer's family. 552 00:29:20,655 --> 00:29:22,379 MORRISON: When Gacy was going to be executed, 553 00:29:22,482 --> 00:29:25,586 I called the family and asked them 554 00:29:25,689 --> 00:29:28,896 if we could use the brain for scientific study. 555 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,793 The family agreed. 556 00:29:32,620 --> 00:29:34,827 KUZMA: I was really into wanting to know 557 00:29:34,931 --> 00:29:37,758 was there something genetically wrong with him. 558 00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:39,689 Because, I mean, there's two sisters. 559 00:29:39,793 --> 00:29:42,379 Neither one of us have killed anybody. 560 00:29:42,482 --> 00:29:43,724 And we wanted to get some kind of sense 561 00:29:43,827 --> 00:29:45,793 of what happened, what... 562 00:29:45,896 --> 00:29:48,034 How did he get this other character in him? 563 00:29:50,103 --> 00:29:52,965 MORRISON: This is the brain of John Wayne Gacy. 564 00:29:53,068 --> 00:29:55,931 This is the first brain that we've been able to get 565 00:29:56,034 --> 00:30:00,827 to look for any potential difference or change 566 00:30:00,931 --> 00:30:03,862 that might make a serial killer. 567 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:08,482 SHATNER: But could dissecting 568 00:30:08,586 --> 00:30:10,517 the diseased brain of a serial killer 569 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,379 really offer a scientific explanation 570 00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:16,724 for John Wayne Gacy's grotesque crimes? 571 00:30:16,827 --> 00:30:20,241 Helen Morrison hoped for a satisfying answer. 572 00:30:20,344 --> 00:30:23,620 MORRISON: Having looked at the slides of the brain, 573 00:30:23,724 --> 00:30:27,379 seeing absolutely nothing abnormal, 574 00:30:27,482 --> 00:30:30,586 now the thought was it's a dead brain. 575 00:30:30,689 --> 00:30:32,655 What is it going to show us 576 00:30:32,758 --> 00:30:35,724 about what's happening in that live brain? 577 00:30:35,827 --> 00:30:38,689 We needed a living brain. 578 00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:40,689 We needed to be able to study 579 00:30:40,793 --> 00:30:43,000 the living brain of a serial murderer. 580 00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:45,551 SHATNER: According to Dr. Morrison, 581 00:30:45,655 --> 00:30:47,620 the only way to accurately determine 582 00:30:47,724 --> 00:30:49,586 if a serial killer gene does exist 583 00:30:49,689 --> 00:30:52,482 is by studying a living brain. 584 00:30:52,586 --> 00:30:54,931 Many brain scans from psychopaths 585 00:30:55,034 --> 00:30:58,862 show a loss of activity in the limbic system. 586 00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:03,689 But is this proof that a person is predisposed to kill? 587 00:31:03,793 --> 00:31:05,793 HO: That loss of activity 588 00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:07,689 in the limbic system really shows 589 00:31:07,793 --> 00:31:09,896 that they have real difficulties 590 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,758 engaging in empathy as an automatic task. 591 00:31:12,862 --> 00:31:15,724 Although we see sort of this evidence 592 00:31:15,827 --> 00:31:17,655 for some hardwiring of psychopaths 593 00:31:17,758 --> 00:31:19,448 in these brain differences, 594 00:31:19,551 --> 00:31:22,551 we also know that nurture plays a huge role. 595 00:31:22,655 --> 00:31:24,000 So, not every single person 596 00:31:24,103 --> 00:31:27,689 who has sort of these psychopathic-looking brains 597 00:31:27,793 --> 00:31:29,103 actually turn out to be psychopaths 598 00:31:29,206 --> 00:31:30,689 in terms of their actions. 599 00:31:30,793 --> 00:31:32,862 They don't necessarily commit a bunch of crimes. 600 00:31:33,965 --> 00:31:35,517 SHATNER: But what if one day in the future, 601 00:31:35,620 --> 00:31:36,862 we are able to determine 602 00:31:36,965 --> 00:31:39,448 that a serial killer gene really does exist? 603 00:31:39,551 --> 00:31:44,448 What would we do with someone who has that particular gene 604 00:31:44,551 --> 00:31:47,827 but hasn't yet committed any crimes? 605 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,551 I think the ethical problems with rewiring the brain 606 00:31:51,655 --> 00:31:53,862 is the issue of the choice of the person. 607 00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:56,413 When somebody says that you need to have your brain rewired, 608 00:31:56,517 --> 00:31:57,896 who's making that determination? 609 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,862 And should they be the one to make that call? 610 00:32:00,965 --> 00:32:04,896 SHATNER: But even if we do eventually crack the serial killer code 611 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,103 and find out what compels them to kill, 612 00:32:08,206 --> 00:32:12,172 we still may be powerless to stop the bloodshed. 613 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:16,172 Because how do you stop someone before they commit a crime? 614 00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:21,413 Unless, of course, they want to be caught in the first place. 615 00:32:26,517 --> 00:32:29,724 It seems most serial killers can't resist 616 00:32:29,827 --> 00:32:31,896 playing cat and mouse with the public. 617 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,551 Penning letters to the police. 618 00:32:34,655 --> 00:32:36,448 Leaving clues at the scene of a crime. 619 00:32:36,551 --> 00:32:38,275 Even drawing maps 620 00:32:38,379 --> 00:32:41,586 to where the bodies of their victims can be found. 621 00:32:42,517 --> 00:32:44,724 But why? 622 00:32:44,827 --> 00:32:48,000 Are they trying to prove how smart they are? 623 00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:52,586 Or are they really desperate to get caught? 624 00:32:54,137 --> 00:32:56,620 ♪ 625 00:32:56,724 --> 00:32:59,448 Perhaps driven by extreme narcissism, 626 00:32:59,551 --> 00:33:02,103 grievance or sinister delusions, 627 00:33:02,206 --> 00:33:05,034 some serial killers are compelled to communicate 628 00:33:05,137 --> 00:33:08,206 with the media and law enforcement. 629 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:10,758 Like the Zodiac Killer, 630 00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:14,000 who sent a total of 21 letters to local newspapers 631 00:33:14,103 --> 00:33:18,034 that revealed specific details about his crimes. 632 00:33:19,551 --> 00:33:21,310 Or David Berkowitz, 633 00:33:21,413 --> 00:33:23,965 who antagonized police with handwritten letters 634 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,586 which he signed, "Yours in murder, 635 00:33:26,689 --> 00:33:28,793 Mr. Monster." 636 00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:31,482 David Berkowitz, 637 00:33:31,586 --> 00:33:34,551 the so-called Son of Sam killer, 638 00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:39,034 started his murders using a .44 caliber pistol 639 00:33:39,137 --> 00:33:43,586 in New York City at the time the United States was celebrating 640 00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:46,758 its 200-year anniversary. 641 00:33:46,862 --> 00:33:48,758 I mean, this was a guy who said, 642 00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:50,482 "Look at me, look at me, look at me. 643 00:33:50,586 --> 00:33:53,482 I'm the monster that you're afraid of." 644 00:33:53,586 --> 00:33:56,862 And he wanted credit for his crimes. 645 00:33:57,758 --> 00:33:59,586 SHATNER: But why would a killer 646 00:33:59,689 --> 00:34:01,758 risk being caught by engaging with 647 00:34:01,862 --> 00:34:04,965 and even taunting the police? 648 00:34:05,068 --> 00:34:07,620 Are they looking to become famous? 649 00:34:07,724 --> 00:34:11,448 Or is there another, more twisted reason? 650 00:34:12,517 --> 00:34:14,103 Dennis Rader, 651 00:34:14,206 --> 00:34:20,137 A.K.A. the BTK serial killer out of Wichita, Kansas-- 652 00:34:20,241 --> 00:34:25,758 "BTK" standing for "bind them, torture them, kill them." 653 00:34:25,862 --> 00:34:29,965 I mean, this arrogance, this feeling of superiority 654 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,689 existed in him to the very end. 655 00:34:32,793 --> 00:34:36,793 And that was the reason he was ultimately caught. 656 00:34:36,896 --> 00:34:39,103 Since she lived down the street from me, 657 00:34:39,206 --> 00:34:41,965 I could watch the coming and going quite easily. 658 00:34:43,241 --> 00:34:46,034 Oh, I manually strangled her when she started to scream. 659 00:34:48,758 --> 00:34:50,896 Dennis Rader, he liked to torture victims, 660 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,137 psychologically and physically torture them. 661 00:34:53,241 --> 00:34:55,034 - [heavy breathing] - He would stalk victims. 662 00:34:55,137 --> 00:34:57,137 He'd go to their homes. He'd hide in the homes. 663 00:34:57,241 --> 00:34:58,965 When people came home, he would attack them, 664 00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:01,655 tie them up and then torture them, 665 00:35:01,758 --> 00:35:04,310 sometimes telling them, "I might kill you, I might not kill you. 666 00:35:04,413 --> 00:35:06,620 We'll see." 667 00:35:06,724 --> 00:35:08,241 Of course, he was going to kill them. 668 00:35:08,344 --> 00:35:10,896 But he wanted them to suffer. So he's very sadistic that way. 669 00:35:13,896 --> 00:35:16,068 VAN ZANDT: Rader, over a period of 20-plus years, 670 00:35:16,172 --> 00:35:19,103 was believed responsible for about ten murders, 671 00:35:19,206 --> 00:35:22,862 four of which were committed on the very first night. 672 00:35:22,965 --> 00:35:25,965 So here you have someone who committed a mass murder, 673 00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:27,862 and he would've gotten away, 674 00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:30,655 we would've never known who he was, 675 00:35:30,758 --> 00:35:33,137 but he wanted to terrorize that community. 676 00:35:33,241 --> 00:35:34,793 SUSAN PETERS: Good evening. 677 00:35:34,896 --> 00:35:37,103 Tonight, now that we know BTK is back, 678 00:35:37,206 --> 00:35:39,448 the city is anxious and fearful. 679 00:35:39,551 --> 00:35:41,034 A letter sent to The Wichita Eagleis believed 680 00:35:41,137 --> 00:35:43,689 to be from the serial killer. 681 00:35:43,793 --> 00:35:45,758 Dennis Rader, he stopped killing for a long time. 682 00:35:45,862 --> 00:35:47,517 For several years, he just stopped killing. 683 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:50,758 And then eventually he realized he was never going to be caught. 684 00:35:50,862 --> 00:35:52,310 At least, in his own thinking. 685 00:35:52,413 --> 00:35:54,034 And so he came back 686 00:35:54,137 --> 00:35:56,551 and he started giving out information to law enforcement. 687 00:35:56,655 --> 00:35:59,137 "Well, here's what I'm doing. And I'm still here." 688 00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:01,862 NEWSMAN: The serial killer who terrorized Wichita for years 689 00:36:01,965 --> 00:36:04,206 causes new fears. 690 00:36:05,379 --> 00:36:08,241 VAN ZANDT: He starts sending mementos from his crimes 691 00:36:08,344 --> 00:36:10,310 to the newspaper, to law enforcement. 692 00:36:11,517 --> 00:36:15,034 He sent a computer disk with some memorabilia on it. 693 00:36:15,137 --> 00:36:18,034 The FBI was able to trace that computer disk 694 00:36:18,137 --> 00:36:20,068 back to the church where he was an elder. 695 00:36:20,172 --> 00:36:23,862 They were able to identify Rader as a potential suspect. 696 00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:28,965 And the BTK serial killer was eventually caught. 697 00:36:29,068 --> 00:36:31,068 HICKEY: It was like he wanted to be caught. 698 00:36:31,172 --> 00:36:33,896 He literally gave them enough information 699 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,379 where they could track him down. 700 00:36:35,482 --> 00:36:36,862 And that's pretty unusual. 701 00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:42,310 VAN ZANDT: He wanted the reputation of BTK to go on. 702 00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:46,206 And because of that, because of that need within him, 703 00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:48,758 he was eventually identified, arrested 704 00:36:48,862 --> 00:36:50,586 and sent to jail for life. 705 00:36:51,724 --> 00:36:53,551 SHATNER: But did the BTK killer 706 00:36:53,655 --> 00:36:57,206 reemerge from the shadows in an effort to become famous 707 00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:58,172 or even infamous? 708 00:36:58,275 --> 00:37:00,689 Or was he really trying to be stopped 709 00:37:00,793 --> 00:37:04,034 and then punished for his crimes? 710 00:37:06,068 --> 00:37:08,172 HICKEY: There are some, because of their narcissism, 711 00:37:08,275 --> 00:37:10,000 they want to be recognized for their murders. 712 00:37:10,103 --> 00:37:11,758 They're in it for the game. 713 00:37:11,862 --> 00:37:13,275 They will play this all the way through. 714 00:37:13,379 --> 00:37:15,206 They want movies done about them. 715 00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:16,862 They want books written about them. 716 00:37:16,965 --> 00:37:18,172 They want to be interviewed. 717 00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:21,034 Because that's the narcissism in them. 718 00:37:21,137 --> 00:37:24,137 One serial killing leads to another serial killing 719 00:37:24,241 --> 00:37:26,034 that leads to another serial killing. 720 00:37:26,137 --> 00:37:28,172 Because you have your moment of fame, 721 00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:30,655 you go out like a shooting star. 722 00:37:30,758 --> 00:37:35,241 NEWSWOMAN: Collecting sports cards is a big American hobby. 723 00:37:35,344 --> 00:37:38,034 But this May, a new collectible series will go on the market: 724 00:37:38,137 --> 00:37:40,172 serial killers and mass murderers. 725 00:37:40,275 --> 00:37:42,241 SHATNER: There are many who believe that, 726 00:37:42,344 --> 00:37:46,068 for some serial killers, the desire to be famous 727 00:37:46,172 --> 00:37:48,896 is equal to their desire to kill. 728 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,241 But, if so, why? 729 00:37:52,344 --> 00:37:55,344 Perhaps the answer can be found by using the same method 730 00:37:55,448 --> 00:37:59,896 many serial killers now use to stalk their victims: 731 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,206 the Internet. 732 00:38:06,103 --> 00:38:08,137 SHATNER: The Internet. 733 00:38:08,241 --> 00:38:11,103 For most of us, it is a powerful tool that allows us 734 00:38:11,206 --> 00:38:13,793 to get vast amounts of important information 735 00:38:13,896 --> 00:38:15,758 at the click of a button. 736 00:38:15,862 --> 00:38:21,620 But is it also capable of making serial killing easier 737 00:38:21,724 --> 00:38:26,517 and perhaps safer for the killers than ever before? 738 00:38:27,586 --> 00:38:29,827 Not necessarily. 739 00:38:29,931 --> 00:38:32,793 For decades, the infamous Golden State Killer, 740 00:38:32,896 --> 00:38:35,758 who committed 13 murders in California 741 00:38:35,862 --> 00:38:38,241 between 1974 and 1986 742 00:38:38,344 --> 00:38:41,758 and was given several menacing names in the press, 743 00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:45,034 baffled investigators. 744 00:38:46,241 --> 00:38:50,000 That is, until April 24, 2018, when authorities charged 745 00:38:50,103 --> 00:38:53,482 72-year-old Joseph James DeAngelo 746 00:38:53,586 --> 00:38:54,965 with first-degree murder 747 00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:59,137 and identified him as the Golden State Killer. 748 00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:03,000 And how did they finally crack the case? 749 00:39:03,103 --> 00:39:07,137 An investigator uploaded crime scene DNA to GEDmatch, 750 00:39:07,241 --> 00:39:09,655 a genealogy website that allows people 751 00:39:09,758 --> 00:39:13,586 to compare their genetic information on the Internet. 752 00:39:13,689 --> 00:39:16,068 Authorities were able to connect information found 753 00:39:16,172 --> 00:39:19,275 on the site to one of DeAngelo's family members, 754 00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:25,344 which ultimately led the police to DeAngelo himself. 755 00:39:25,448 --> 00:39:29,931 But does this mean that finding and apprehending serial killers 756 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:31,689 will soon become so efficient 757 00:39:31,793 --> 00:39:33,172 that we will be able to stop them 758 00:39:33,275 --> 00:39:35,965 before they begin their reign of terror? 759 00:39:36,068 --> 00:39:39,206 It's a compelling notion but unlikely. 760 00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:41,586 According to Radford University's 761 00:39:41,689 --> 00:39:43,724 Serial Killer Database, 762 00:39:43,827 --> 00:39:46,965 there have been more than 3,000 confirmed serial killers 763 00:39:47,068 --> 00:39:50,620 in the United States since 1900. 764 00:39:50,724 --> 00:39:52,206 And criminologists believe 765 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:55,206 that the United States has produced more serial killers 766 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:58,551 than any other country in the world. 767 00:39:58,655 --> 00:40:01,034 But why? 768 00:40:02,241 --> 00:40:04,620 HICKEY: Any country has the capacity 769 00:40:04,724 --> 00:40:06,793 to produce serial killers. 770 00:40:06,896 --> 00:40:08,793 Uh, but there are some environments, 771 00:40:08,896 --> 00:40:10,275 some cultures, like American culture, 772 00:40:10,379 --> 00:40:14,310 where there's a tremendous fascination with serial killers. 773 00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:17,689 Because we all want to be forensics specialists. 774 00:40:17,793 --> 00:40:20,206 We love to watch all these crime movies on television. 775 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:23,482 And it makes us think about murder in very strange ways. 776 00:40:23,586 --> 00:40:25,827 For most people, it doesn't create killers. 777 00:40:25,931 --> 00:40:29,068 But it does fascinate people. 778 00:40:29,172 --> 00:40:30,517 I do think it's true 779 00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:33,103 that we're overly interested in serial killers 780 00:40:33,206 --> 00:40:35,793 in this culture and that people are fascinated 781 00:40:35,896 --> 00:40:38,034 by these extremes of human emotion. 782 00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:40,931 Whether that contributes to copycat crimes, 783 00:40:41,034 --> 00:40:44,206 that is a question that is-is worth asking. 784 00:40:45,724 --> 00:40:49,172 SHATNER: Is it possible that our interest in serial killers 785 00:40:49,275 --> 00:40:52,896 is actually creating new ones? 786 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,517 It's certainly a frightening possibility 787 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:58,551 but no more disturbing than the enduring mystery 788 00:40:58,655 --> 00:41:04,655 of what causes a person to hunt human beings for sport. 789 00:41:04,758 --> 00:41:06,172 [woman screams] 790 00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:08,965 Although we know a lot about serial killers 791 00:41:09,068 --> 00:41:10,137 in the United States, 792 00:41:10,241 --> 00:41:13,172 there's just a lot about motivation 793 00:41:13,275 --> 00:41:15,931 for human behavior that we don't understand, 794 00:41:16,034 --> 00:41:17,620 that we don't know. 795 00:41:17,724 --> 00:41:20,172 And that's what allows these individuals 796 00:41:20,275 --> 00:41:24,448 to stay out there, stalking, identifying and killing. 797 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,586 HICKEY: There's not one profile that fits serial killers in general. 798 00:41:28,689 --> 00:41:30,275 But, actually, there are different types 799 00:41:30,379 --> 00:41:34,275 of serial killers, based upon their motivations, 800 00:41:34,379 --> 00:41:36,689 uh, and what drives them to kill. 801 00:41:36,793 --> 00:41:39,655 So, why are humans 802 00:41:39,758 --> 00:41:43,620 so endlessly fascinated by serial killers? 803 00:41:43,724 --> 00:41:47,379 Are we afraid that we might become one of their victims? 804 00:41:48,586 --> 00:41:52,517 Or is it something within us that makes us more afraid 805 00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:55,689 that we could be serial killers ourselves? 806 00:41:55,793 --> 00:41:57,827 Perhaps that's why we find them so frightening, 807 00:41:57,931 --> 00:42:00,793 so-so disturbing and so... 808 00:42:00,896 --> 00:42:03,310 unexplained. 65038

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