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WILLIAM SHATNER:
It hides in the shadows.
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A giant, hairy creature
that walks on two feet
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and watches us
with glowing eyes.
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Does Bigfoot really exist?
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Part ape, part man?
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As crazy as it seems,
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there are many who believe
that not only
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is such a creature real
but they've seen it,
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tracked it,
even photographed it.
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But then, if Bigfoot
does exist, what is it?
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Where does it come from?
How many are there?
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And perhaps more importantly...
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[creature snarling]
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...should we be afraid of it?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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Bigfoot researcher
Matt Moneymaker and a colleague
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are investigating
reported Bigfoot sightings
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in a wooded area
near the town of Kent.
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After spending years
pursuing Bigfoot
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in hopes of seeing one himself,
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Matt is eager to find out
whether there really is
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a giant creature in these woods.
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MATT MONEYMAKER:
We were staked out
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along a road, the guy I was
with was about 60 feet away.
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And at about 2:30 a.m.,
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something comes walking
down the road.
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I see something.
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He sees it first
through night vision.
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SHATNER:
Matt rushes over to investigate,
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and is stopped dead in his
tracks by the sound of...
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- [growling]
- ...inhuman growling.
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MONEYMAKER:
This thing steps out.
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A very big, tall,
hair-covered thing...
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...standing out there
growling at me.
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When you've got
something that big
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that close to you, you could
see it well enough to know
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that must be a Bigfoot.
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So I just kind of backed up
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and walked away.
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I was pretty happy
at that point,
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because I'm thinking,
"If this one's gonna do that,
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"reliably, then this is a place
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"that we're gonna get
some video footage of them
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if we're coming here
with the right kind of gear."
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SHATNER:
But when Matt returned
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with camera equipment
to document the encounter,
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the creature had vanished.
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Although Matt was not
able to photograph
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the large, hairy beast
that he witnessed,
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he remains convinced that what
he saw was, in fact, Bigfoot.
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It's one of those things
that sounds so over-the-top,
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but after I had
a face-to-face encounter,
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I knew it was exactly
the same thing
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that all the witnesses
around there had described.
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SHATNER:
The encounter inspired Matt
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to found the Bigfoot Field
Researchers Organization,
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or BFRO.
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MONEYMAKER:
The roots of it are people who were sharing information.
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We were sharing
sighting reports, mainly,
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from different parts
of the country.
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And I came up
with the idea that,
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"Why don't we put all these
into a website?"
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You know, sort it
by county and state
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so people can look up reports.
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And when we did that,
it worked really well.
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Lots of people started
submitting reports.
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SHATNER:
According to the BFRO,
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there have been more than
3,500 credible Bigfoot sightings
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since 1960.
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Although science has yet
to prove the existence
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of the legendary man-beast,
that hasn't stopped Bigfoot
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from becoming
a full-fledged phenomenon.
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CHRISTOPHER BADER:
Bigfoot is literally everywhere.
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There are Bigfoot stories
in Nevada.
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There are
Bigfoot stories in Nebraska,
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Florida, Texas.
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Literally every part
of the country
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has its own stories and legends
of Bigfoot.
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It's likely, wherever you live
in this country,
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you are within a hundred miles
of a place
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that purportedly has a Bigfoot.
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SHATNER:
If these sightings are of a real creature,
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then what exactly is Bigfoot?
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And how did this
phenomenon begin?
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TOK THOMPSON:
Bigfoot is generally reported to be
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a very large, very furry, uh,
hominid creature.
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Something like a person,
uh, but not a person,
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seen very often remotely
in the forest.
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And with various stories
about sightings
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or about footprints that
really are pretty widespread
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in many, many communities in
the United States and in Canada.
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Before 1958, people didn't
use the word "Bigfoot."
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But it was in 1958
in Northern California,
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guys building a road
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found footprints
around their gear
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when they would come
back in the morning.
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And a guy named Jerry Crew
made plaster footprints
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of these tracks and showed them
to a reporter in Eureka,
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and they dubbed it "Bigfoot."
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That was where the name
first originated
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and got
into American vocabulary.
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SHATNER:
Photos of Jerry Crew's cast
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of giant footprints made
headlines across the country.
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Many Americans came
to believe that a tall,
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bipedal, apelike creature
roamed the forests
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of the Pacific Northwest.
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I grew up in Washington State,
where it's hard
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to underestimate
Bigfoot's power.
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Bigfoot is the mascot
of different companies.
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Bigfoot is all over billboards.
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As a young boy
in Washington State,
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I fully believed
in Bigfoot's existence.
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SHATNER:
In 1967, interest in Bigfoot surged
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when an investigator
named Roger Patterson
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captured incredible footage
of a creature
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that matched
the description of Bigfoot
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near Bluff Creek
in Northern California.
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Patterson's film became
an instant sensation,
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but skeptics claimed
that it had to be a man
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in a monkey suit.
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One of the issues when it comes
to people believing
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in Bigfoot existing
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is, let's face it,
mainstream sciences
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shun away from this topic.
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However, amateur researchers
are trying to pick up the slack,
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bridge that gap
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between amateur
and mainstream science.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot researchers claim that the vast majority
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of Bigfoot sightings
are sincere,
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and that hoaxes represent only
a small fraction of reports.
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They also point out that stories
of Bigfoot-like animals
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are not merely a recent fad.
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Believe it or not,
more than 3,000 years ago,
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the ancient Babylonians
told stories of a creature
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that sounds an awful lot
like Bigfoot.
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Except they called it Enkidu.
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SARA BURDORFF:
Enkidu is a...
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hairy, wild man creature
with super strength,
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and he's fearsome,
he's ready and willing
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to defend this wild territory
that he inhabits.
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The king, Gilgamesh,
becomes his soulmate, basically.
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Best friends.
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So, this king becomes
this amazing hero
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through his relationship
with this wild man
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that has shown him
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how to negotiate the boundaries
between humanity and wildness.
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SHATNER:
Since that time, descriptions of so-called "wild men,"
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half-human, half-ape beasts,
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have popped up throughout
history, all over the world.
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JONATHAN YOUNG:
In the Caucasus,
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there was something
called the alma
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that was a big monster,
a nature creature.
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In Australia,
there's the Aboriginal version
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which is called a yowie.
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There is the Yeti
in the Himalayas.
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So there are local variations,
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but the story
is more or less the same.
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Very big, seemingly animallike,
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or is it human
or is it some hybrid?
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There's the point.
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SHATNER:
In North America,
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there are Native American
legends that go back centuries,
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long before the discoveries
made by Jerry Crew
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or Roger Patterson.
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LYNNE McNEILL:
We know that Sasquatch,
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the preeminent Bigfoot creature
that we have
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in the United States, located
in the Pacific Northwest,
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that very word, "Sasquatch,"
comes from a Salish tribal word
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that means "wild man"
or "hairy man."
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YOUNG:
The natives of the Northwest say that there are creatures
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that walk upright
and only at night.
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And can speak in their language.
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NEISS:
I found, in speaking with indigenous peoples,
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that they don't describe them
as an animal at all.
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They call them the First Ones,
or the Old Ones.
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"These were the tribe that was
here before we got here."
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SHATNER:
An ancient tribe that predates humanity?
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It's a fascinating notion,
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one that Bigfoot researchers
are eager to investigate.
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And there are some who will risk
going into the deepest
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and darkest forests to try
and capture the huge creature,
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even though it may not
want to be found.
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[low growl]
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SHATNER: Future U.S. President
Teddy Roosevelt
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publishes The Wilderness Hunter,
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a book about
his youthful adventures
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in the Dakota Territory.
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His memoir contains a story
that was told to him
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by an old mountain man,
who, years before,
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had encountered an apelike
creature deep in the woods.
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There were some trappers
and they kept having
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encounters kind of in the dark
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with what they thought
were these huge creatures
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that were leaving
huge manlike footprints.
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One of the guys decided
to go off and check traps,
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and the other one
would hide back at camp
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and see what was
coming in every time
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that they would leave camp.
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When the guy came back
from checking traps,
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he found his friend dead,
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his body broken over a log,
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and it looked like
it had just been pummeled.
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And they attributed it to
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an eight-foot-tall,
600-pound ape.
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SHATNER:
The disturbing encounter recorded by Roosevelt
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is one of the earliest accounts
of American pioneers
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coming face-to-face
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with what many
Native Americans called...
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Sasquatch.
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If the story is true,
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it seems like Sasquatch wasn't
very friendly
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towards humans who
encroached on its territory.
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[low growling]
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There are vastly different ideas
within the Bigfoot subculture
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about Bigfoot's disposition.
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Some believe that Bigfoot is
an angry, homicidal predator.
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And if you come into its domain,
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it will try to kill you
if it can.
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Others believe that Bigfoot
is merely an animal.
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And just like a grizzly bear
might become aggressive
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under the right circumstances,
it could.
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SHATNER:
Over the past century, more
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of the American wilderness
has been settled,
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with the construction
of new housing, industry,
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and infrastructure.
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But if we have been encroaching
on Bigfoot's habitat
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for so long,
then how come no one has ever
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recovered the body of one?
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It's been estimated perhaps
2,000 of these things exist
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throughout
the Pacific Northwest.
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Sounds like a lot,
but it really isn't.
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Considering two
of the major ranges,
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the Cascade Range
and the Coast Range,
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make up 68,000 square miles,
mostly uninhabited.
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When you distribute
2,000 of anything
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in 68,000 square miles...
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you'd be lucky to run
across one in your life.
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BADER:
People who believe that Bigfoot is
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a biological creature
will simply
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talk about how stealthy it is,
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that it's very good at moving
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through the woods
without making any noise
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and therefore
can slip away at will.
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SHATNER:
Is Bigfoot simply too elusive to be captured?
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Perhaps.
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But that hasn't stopped an army
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of so-called "Bigfoot hunters"
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from trying to track it down.
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JEFF MELDRUM:
The role of citizen scientists
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is potentially
a very significant one.
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It may well be
that major discoveries
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will be made
not by scientists in this arena,
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but by citizen scientists.
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BADER:
Modern Bigfoot hunters
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use techniques
such as wood knocking...
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[whoops]
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...playing purported Bigfoot
screams while in the woods.
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These are things that many
modern Bigfoot investigators
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believe will draw
any nearby Sasquatch to you.
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MONEYMAKER:
I think the future of Bigfoot research,
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in a lot of ways, rests with new
optics with thermal imagers.
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And especially with drones,
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thermal imagers
attached to drones.
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I really do see a future
where the next
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big, profound piece of footage
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is gonna be gotten by a drone.
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BADER:
Many Bigfoot hunters
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are very much devoted
to the idea
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that the creature
that they're looking for
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is an undiscovered animal.
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They believe
that if they try hard enough,
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they could capture
sufficient evidence
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to prove the issue
once and for all.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot hunters have set their sights
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on catching the beast itself.
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But the most compelling pieces
of evidence
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that we have right now
are the huge footprints
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that have been found
for decades.
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And according to anthropologist
Dr. Jeff Meldrum,
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these impressions in the ground
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prove that there really is
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an enormous primate
roaming the forest.
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MELDRUM:
My research expertise centers around
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the adaptations
of the human body
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for bipedalism-- the habit
of walking on two legs.
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So that put me
in a very apropos position
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to address what is probably
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the most prolific and,
in my opinion,
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by far the most compelling
body of evidence
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for the existence of Sasquatch,
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namely the footprints.
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SHATNER:
Dr. Meldrum's interest in Bigfoot footprints started
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in 1996 when he
and a colleague came across
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a remarkable line of footprints
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in Southeastern Washington.
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As we walk out there,
here's this unmistakable line
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of footprints in the mud,
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these 15-inch footprints,
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and the hair stood up
on the back of my neck
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as I realized
a Sasquatch actually
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walked by here last night.
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The evidence was really
unmistakable to my eye
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with my background and training.
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SHATNER:
Dr. Meldrum immediately made
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several casts
of the intriguing footprints.
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The first of many such casts
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that he has made
throughout his career.
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Based off his research,
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he has concluded that by
analyzing a variety of factors,
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such as how the foot imprints
irregularities into the ground
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or the spacing
of the toes in the dirt,
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it is possible to determine
when footprints have been faked
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and when they were really made
by a 15-inch foot.
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So here we are
over 20 years later, and
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in addition
to the seven footprint
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casts that I made
on that afternoon,
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there are over 300 casts
to keep them company here
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in the specimen drawers
in my laboratory.
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It's just been an amazing road
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that has yielded, due to this
extraordinary sample,
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the emergence
of a model of a foot
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that is not simply
an enlarged facsimile
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of a human footprint
but rather shows
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all the distinctions
of a foot adapted
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to transport
a 800-to-1,200-pound
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bipedal primate
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through the rough,
irregular, incline terrain
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of the mountainous forests
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they are said to inhabit.
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SHATNER:
If Bigfoot is making
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giant footprints in the forest,
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then is it a creature
that can be explained
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by conventional science?
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Bigfoot researchers believe
the answer is yes.
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And they claim
that Bigfoot is an animal...
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that has already been found.
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SHATNER:
Explorer Robert von Beringe is leading an expedition
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up Mount Sabyinyo
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when he comes upon
a troop of gorillas.
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Which is extraordinary,
because according
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to mainstream scientists
at the time, gorillas aren't
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supposed to live
in the mountains.
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BADER:
For years, when reports came out
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about mountain gorillas,
people said,
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"They're lying,
they're hoaxers,"
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until we finally had specimens.
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[gorilla hooting]
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And now
the mountain gorilla are part
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of the public
and historical record.
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MELDRUM:
The discovery of the gorilla
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is actually a very good example
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of the manner in which
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the existence
of an unknown primate species
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was eventually recognized
by Western science.
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And science requires
a type specimen
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in order to justify
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the recognition
of a novel species.
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SHATNER:
For Bigfoot researchers, the discovery
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of the mountain gorilla
is an example
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of how the assumptions
of mainstream scientists
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are not always correct.
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And they argue that if the
mountain gorilla survived
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in the African mountains,
unrecognized by science
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until 1902,
that it's possible that Bigfoot
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is alive in the vast forests
of North America.
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It just hasn't
been verified yet.
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But is Bigfoot really
an unknown creature?
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Or is it simply
another name for a creature
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we've known about for decades?
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There's various theories as to
what this type of primate is.
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But it most likely is
related to this line of apes
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out of Southeast Asia, the most
famous of which was called
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Gigantopithecus,the largest
apes that ever lived.
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MELDRUM:
Gigantopithecuswas a species that existed
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during the late Pleistocene,
perhaps until as recently as
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200,000 to 300,000 years ago,
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according to the fossil record.
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It was a giant primate of
literally King Kong proportions
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that could have stood ten feet
tall and weighed in excess
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of a thousand, 1,200 pounds.
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SHATNER:
The theory that what we call "Bigfoot" is actually
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Gigantopithecushas
profound implications.
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If true, it would mean
that the existence of Bigfoot
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has already been
scientifically verified.
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There's just one problem.
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According to paleontologists,
Gigantopithecusbecame extinct
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a long time ago.
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MELDRUM:
Gigantopithecushas often been characterized
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as a creature that fed
exclusively on bamboo
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and, hence, went extinct
when those bamboo forests
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also expired.
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But much more
insightful analyses
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of the fossilized teeth
of Gigantopithecus
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suggests that it had a diet
that was quite diverse.
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Which is quite interesting,
to have an animal that size
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that still had a very diverse,
omnivorous diet.
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SHATNER:
But even if Gigantopithecus
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has somehow survived into
the present, questions remain.
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Such as, how did
such a large creature migrate
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from the bamboo forests
of Southeast Asia
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all the way to North America?
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If Bigfoots are descendants
of Gigantopithecus,
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or a line of apes like it,
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they probably came over
the land bridge
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the same way
that Native Americans did,
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back when Siberia and Alaska
were connected
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and all sorts of animals
were able to cross over
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the Bering Strait.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot researchers are steadfast
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in their support
of the Gigantopithecustheory.
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But most experts reject the idea
due to lack of evidence.
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But what if the evidence
does exist,
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and scientists simply
aren't looking for it
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in the right places?
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Naturalist John Mionczynski
is spending the summer
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working for the U.S.
Forest Service.
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I was employed
by the U.S. Forest Service
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and the Wyoming Game
and Fish Department
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on a cooperative study.
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The project was set up so that
I would live in the wild.
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- [owl hooting]
- SHATNER: Late one night,
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John feels what he thinks
is a large bear
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pressing against
the outside of his tent.
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I was approached by something
that cast a shadow.
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The Moon was just coming up,
it was almost a full moon.
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I clearly saw a hand
with four fingers
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and an opposed thumb,
like a human hand.
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And it was large.
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It was twice the size
of my hand.
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It was getting aggressive
with its movements
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on the side of the tent.
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I hit it
with the back of my hand.
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[growling]
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Whatever it was had backed off.
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It ran back behind some trees.
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So I was totally perplexed.
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I have to say that,
the thought of Sasquatch
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never occurred to me
at that moment.
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SHATNER:
When John reported the encounter to the Forest Service,
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he learned that there had been
a rash of similar reports.
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His boss, afraid the sightings
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might be the work
of a prankster,
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asked him to investigate
and interview the witnesses.
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MIONCZYNSKI:
I eventually interviewed
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about 25 people.
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The most interesting one
was a young man
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in a little cabin
up against the mountains.
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[creature growls]
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He had reported
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seeing one of these
behaving aggressively
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in front of his cabin.
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And he shot it.
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And he'd thought he'd killed it,
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but it got up immediately
and ran off.
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SHATNER:
John visited the cabin and, incredibly,
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found that there were hair
samples left near the house.
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He collected the hairs
and brought them
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to Walter Birkby, a well-known
forensic anthropologist
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and leading expert
on hair analysis.
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The analysis came back
a few days later
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and Walter Birkby said,
and this is a quote,
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"This is my first stumper.
These hairs are primate."
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And he was certain about that.
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The result was controversial
because a hairy primate
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is not of an animal
native to Wyoming.
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That kind of suggested
the idea of Bigfoot.
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SHATNER:
Solid, physical evidence of a primate in Wyoming?
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You might think
that the scientific community
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would be thrilled
by such a discovery.
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But John quickly realized
the perils
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of making that assumption.
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MIONCZYNSKI:
The head of the research division
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actually chewed us out.
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Pointing his finger at us
and saying,
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"If your names
are ever associated
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"with this word Bigfoot again,
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I will personally see to it
that you're fired."
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[low growl]
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If hard evidence of Bigfoot
really exists,
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then why are scientists
so eager to dismiss it?
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Maybe it's safer to think
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that it's all just a delusion
or a hoax.
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Or perhaps Bigfoot doesn't fit
into their preconceived notions
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of the world.
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In any case,
some evidence is difficult,
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if not downright impossible,
to ignore,
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as you shall see.
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SHATNER:
Researcher Robert Collier
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is leading a Bigfoot expedition
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in a remote part
of the wilderness.
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COLLIER:
It was about dusk, getting a little bit darker.
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And all of a sudden we hear
these horrendous footsteps.
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As we looked in front of us,
what we saw had two legs.
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And it looked like
the conical shaped head,
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the broad shoulders.
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And it's sitting right there.
I'm looking at it.
497
00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,137
SHATNER:
Robert and his companions were astonished
498
00:26:39,206 --> 00:26:42,517
by the two-legged creature
moving near them.
499
00:26:42,586 --> 00:26:44,379
But what happened next
was even more extraordinary.
500
00:26:44,448 --> 00:26:47,241
COLLIER:
Soon as that happened,
501
00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,551
it was like somebody had
parked their car down there
502
00:26:50,655 --> 00:26:52,793
and turned on headlights.
503
00:26:52,862 --> 00:26:54,448
Lit up the whole area.
504
00:26:54,551 --> 00:26:56,931
And I remember looking at that
505
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,482
and the lights stayed on,
one, two,
506
00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:03,655
three, off.
507
00:27:03,724 --> 00:27:05,758
Then it just went silent.
508
00:27:05,827 --> 00:27:08,172
But we were in such shock
and pure amazement
509
00:27:08,241 --> 00:27:10,000
from that, from that sighting.
510
00:27:10,068 --> 00:27:15,793
SHATNER:
A sudden, brilliant illumination deep in the forest?
511
00:27:15,862 --> 00:27:18,931
Just before the mysterious
creature Robert saw
512
00:27:19,034 --> 00:27:21,000
seemingly disappeared?
513
00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:26,482
While it may sound
like a fantastical story,
514
00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:30,241
this wasn't the last time
Robert observed
515
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:33,517
such a strange occurrence.
516
00:27:33,586 --> 00:27:35,241
COLLIER:
This last expedition,
517
00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:37,310
I experienced more lights.
518
00:27:37,413 --> 00:27:40,620
We had some activity one night
and I remember,
519
00:27:40,689 --> 00:27:42,931
at one point,
Bigfoot turned its body
520
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,103
and it looked back at me.
521
00:27:44,172 --> 00:27:46,000
And then this blue light--
522
00:27:46,068 --> 00:27:47,896
it was a blue streak
through the forest--
523
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:49,620
and it shot off to the right.
524
00:27:49,689 --> 00:27:51,551
I still can't wrap
my head around it.
525
00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:54,103
But still other people
experience that
526
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,172
and they're seeing
the same things.
527
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,758
People are starting to see
these white orbs.
528
00:27:58,827 --> 00:28:02,103
The blue lights, the streaks.
529
00:28:02,206 --> 00:28:04,137
So, there's the common
denominator in there.
530
00:28:04,241 --> 00:28:08,103
SHATNER:
Robert and others who have seen these inexplicable lights
531
00:28:08,172 --> 00:28:09,931
may not have all the answers.
532
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,379
However, the phenomenon
533
00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:17,275
suggests
an intriguing possibility.
534
00:28:17,379 --> 00:28:21,206
You see, most researchers
speculate that Bigfoot could be
535
00:28:21,275 --> 00:28:23,827
some form of ape and man
536
00:28:23,931 --> 00:28:25,758
or a mix of both.
537
00:28:25,862 --> 00:28:27,931
But what if those theories
are missing the target?
538
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,827
If Bigfoot is real,
539
00:28:30,896 --> 00:28:32,931
could it be totally different
540
00:28:33,034 --> 00:28:35,620
from any kind of creature
that we're familiar with?
541
00:28:35,689 --> 00:28:38,551
Perhaps the answer
can be found by examining
542
00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:42,724
one of the most notorious
Bigfoot encounters in history.
543
00:28:49,172 --> 00:28:53,344
Gold prospector Fred Beck
and some miners are working
544
00:28:53,413 --> 00:28:56,586
on a claim not far
from Mount St. Helens,
545
00:28:56,689 --> 00:29:00,344
when they hear a bizarre noise.
546
00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:01,586
BADER:
Fred and one of his friends
547
00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:03,413
heard strange whistling sounds
548
00:29:03,482 --> 00:29:05,620
and all of a sudden
saw a hairy creature
549
00:29:05,689 --> 00:29:07,689
peek its head
out from behind a tree.
550
00:29:07,758 --> 00:29:09,379
The men instantly
pulled out their guns
551
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:10,758
and started shooting
at the creature...
552
00:29:13,965 --> 00:29:16,862
...which howled and screamed
as it ran away.
553
00:29:16,931 --> 00:29:21,000
And this attack on the creature
seemed to provoke it,
554
00:29:21,068 --> 00:29:22,310
because that evening
555
00:29:22,379 --> 00:29:25,896
Fred and his friends
in their cabin were assaulted
556
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,379
by what seemed to be a group
of Sasquatch, or Bigfeet.
557
00:29:29,482 --> 00:29:32,344
They heard pounding on the roof.
558
00:29:34,724 --> 00:29:39,068
Fred described the creatures
as tall and hairy,
559
00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:42,344
having apelike faces and being
entirely hair-covered,
560
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:44,275
and between six
to eight feet tall,
561
00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:45,862
running around on two legs.
562
00:29:45,965 --> 00:29:48,103
SHATNER:
The men soon realized that the cabin
563
00:29:48,172 --> 00:29:51,689
would not necessarily protect
them from their attackers,
564
00:29:51,793 --> 00:29:54,275
because the creatures
bombarded the cabin
565
00:29:54,379 --> 00:29:56,517
with huge rocks
from the cliffs above
566
00:29:56,620 --> 00:30:00,034
and then tried to get inside.
567
00:30:00,137 --> 00:30:02,931
BADER:
In one especially terrifying part of the story,
568
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,413
a creature reached its hand
through the cabin
569
00:30:04,517 --> 00:30:07,448
and tried to grab an ax,
but Fred grabbed
570
00:30:07,517 --> 00:30:09,862
the head of the ax and turned it
571
00:30:09,931 --> 00:30:12,000
so the creature
couldn't pull it through.
572
00:30:14,206 --> 00:30:16,965
The next morning,
as it neared daylight,
573
00:30:17,068 --> 00:30:18,896
the attacks finally stopped.
574
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,482
And Fred and his friends
decided to make their escape.
575
00:30:22,551 --> 00:30:25,965
And this story made
its way into the papers.
576
00:30:26,034 --> 00:30:30,034
And ever since then, this area
has been known as Ape Canyon.
577
00:30:33,241 --> 00:30:35,724
SHATNER:
For some, the so-called Ape Canyon Incident
578
00:30:35,793 --> 00:30:38,137
proves that Bigfoot
possesses intelligence
579
00:30:38,241 --> 00:30:43,310
that exceeds that of any known
animal and rivals our own.
580
00:30:43,379 --> 00:30:48,000
But to others,
the incident suggests something
581
00:30:48,068 --> 00:30:49,965
much more incredible.
582
00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:52,655
BADER:
If you actually look back
583
00:30:52,724 --> 00:30:56,275
to Fred Beck's own works,
he did not think these creatures
584
00:30:56,379 --> 00:30:58,655
were actually
undiscovered animals.
585
00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:00,689
He thought they were
spiritual entities
586
00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:02,517
from another plane of existence.
587
00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:05,379
He claimed they would
find a footprint track
588
00:31:05,482 --> 00:31:07,551
that would suddenly end
in the middle of a sandbar,
589
00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:09,275
suggesting that a creature
had just simply disappeared
590
00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:11,758
as it was walking.
591
00:31:11,827 --> 00:31:15,379
So, from his perspective, this
was not an undiscovered ape.
592
00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:18,034
It was a mystical creature
from another dimension.
593
00:31:18,103 --> 00:31:22,172
SHATNER:
A mystical creature from another dimension?
594
00:31:22,241 --> 00:31:25,620
But how is such
a thing possible?
595
00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:28,448
And doesn't that theory
contradict
596
00:31:28,551 --> 00:31:32,103
mainstream Bigfoot research?
597
00:31:32,206 --> 00:31:35,034
BADER:
The idea that Bigfoot might be able to disappear
598
00:31:35,137 --> 00:31:37,689
into another dimension,
that is very threatening
599
00:31:37,758 --> 00:31:40,896
to that view that it's
simply an undiscovered animal.
600
00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,724
And, in fact, people oftentimes
make fun of Bigfoot hunters
601
00:31:43,827 --> 00:31:45,620
and say, "You're just like
ghost hunters,
602
00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,206
you're just like people
who see fairies and demons."
603
00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:51,551
And when you add paranormal
elements to a Bigfoot story,
604
00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:53,310
you open them up
for that very criticism
605
00:31:53,379 --> 00:31:54,517
that bothers them so much.
606
00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:57,034
THOMPSON: Most of
the contemporary traditions
607
00:31:57,137 --> 00:31:58,862
assign Bigfoot or Sasquatch
608
00:31:58,965 --> 00:31:59,965
to the natural world.
609
00:32:00,034 --> 00:32:02,689
In other words, it's not
a supernatural character.
610
00:32:02,758 --> 00:32:04,413
Most of the native traditions
611
00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:06,137
would be more of
the spiritual world
612
00:32:06,241 --> 00:32:07,931
or more of
the supernatural world.
613
00:32:08,034 --> 00:32:10,206
That this figure is
more than simply
614
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:11,931
a large hominid
living out there.
615
00:32:12,034 --> 00:32:16,068
They've ascribed, uh,
some powers to them,
616
00:32:16,137 --> 00:32:17,724
spiritual powers.
617
00:32:17,827 --> 00:32:21,241
They can change into
different things at times,
618
00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:26,103
which aids in their ability
to seem to vanish on location.
619
00:32:26,172 --> 00:32:27,896
Uh, shapeshifters,
if you will.
620
00:32:27,965 --> 00:32:29,965
And so they have
621
00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:33,137
a whole different respect
for them, spiritually.
622
00:32:35,655 --> 00:32:39,241
Does Bigfoot really have
mystical powers?
623
00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:42,689
And could this
fantastical notion
624
00:32:42,793 --> 00:32:44,965
help to explain things
about Bigfoot
625
00:32:45,068 --> 00:32:50,000
that have, up till now,
stumped researchers?
626
00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:53,034
There are those who believe
that the answer is yes--
627
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,655
and that one big reason
628
00:32:54,724 --> 00:32:57,310
why Bigfoot has
otherworldly abilities
629
00:32:57,413 --> 00:33:01,206
is because he really is
from another world.
630
00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:15,482
SHATNER:
Bigfoot researcher Joe Fex visits a rural Appalachian farm
631
00:33:15,586 --> 00:33:17,448
owned by a woman who claims
632
00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:19,137
that she has encountered Bigfoot
633
00:33:19,241 --> 00:33:22,000
not once, not twice,
but many times
634
00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:24,034
over a period of years.
635
00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:27,620
FEX:
Janice Carter Coy claimed
636
00:33:27,689 --> 00:33:29,655
Bigfoot would come
down the mountain,
637
00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:32,482
visit this barn
that was about two miles away,
638
00:33:32,586 --> 00:33:36,206
and that they would come visit
her grandfather's farm.
639
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:38,655
SHATNER:
Eager to find out
640
00:33:38,724 --> 00:33:40,862
whether Janice's incredible
story could be true,
641
00:33:40,965 --> 00:33:45,896
Joe decided to do a nighttime
stakeout on her farm.
642
00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,862
That night, Joe and Janice
were sitting around a firepit
643
00:33:50,931 --> 00:33:56,068
when Joe noticed
something... strange.
644
00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:57,758
FEX:
As we're talking,
645
00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:01,655
I see between
these barn structures
646
00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:06,758
two very bright, very vivid
lime green lights.
647
00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:10,103
And they're floating
across this open area
648
00:34:10,206 --> 00:34:11,344
between these structures.
649
00:34:11,448 --> 00:34:12,758
I thought,
650
00:34:12,827 --> 00:34:15,000
"Wow, Tennessee has got
some pretty extremely large
651
00:34:15,068 --> 00:34:16,586
lightning bugs out here."
652
00:34:16,689 --> 00:34:18,448
SHATNER:
But the green lights
653
00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:19,724
started to come closer to him
654
00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:23,310
and Joe realized that what
he thought were fireflies...
655
00:34:23,413 --> 00:34:26,344
were actually glowing eyes.
656
00:34:26,413 --> 00:34:27,517
FEX:
I could see
657
00:34:27,586 --> 00:34:31,379
the structure of a very large,
658
00:34:31,448 --> 00:34:34,137
long-haired, shaggy--
659
00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:36,172
what looked like
a very muscular ape.
660
00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:38,379
And I looked over at Janice
661
00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:40,344
and she's just looking
at me with this grin.
662
00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:41,758
And she says,
663
00:34:41,827 --> 00:34:45,206
"He wants to know if you're
going to go back to Colorado
664
00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,413
and tell people
you saw fireflies."
665
00:34:47,482 --> 00:34:49,206
How Janice would even know that
666
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:51,172
that thought
even entered my head,
667
00:34:51,241 --> 00:34:53,344
brief as that thought was,
668
00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:55,034
I really have no idea.
669
00:34:55,103 --> 00:34:57,103
SHATNER
Joe was astonished to see
670
00:34:57,172 --> 00:34:58,655
that Janice seemed to be able
671
00:34:58,758 --> 00:34:59,689
to mentally communicate
with the creature...
672
00:34:59,758 --> 00:35:02,620
which was somehow
reading his mind, too.
673
00:35:03,931 --> 00:35:06,724
Janice said, "He wants you to
come back to the ditch line.
674
00:35:06,793 --> 00:35:09,413
He wants to see you.
He wants you to see him."
675
00:35:09,517 --> 00:35:11,413
And I thought,
"Oh, this is insane."
676
00:35:11,517 --> 00:35:14,241
But she gives me
this big flashlight.
677
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:16,241
So I started
walking over there
678
00:35:16,344 --> 00:35:18,655
and back out
behind the house,
679
00:35:18,758 --> 00:35:21,379
and I pointed
the light forward.
680
00:35:21,482 --> 00:35:23,586
And here, in this open area,
681
00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:25,310
stood this guy that had to be
682
00:35:25,379 --> 00:35:26,931
about eight or nine feet tall.
683
00:35:27,034 --> 00:35:29,068
I've never heard or seen
anything like it
684
00:35:29,172 --> 00:35:30,551
in my entire life.
685
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,137
SHATNER:
You'd think that after standing toe to toe with Bigfoot,
686
00:35:34,241 --> 00:35:38,586
Joe would remember everything
about such an encounter.
687
00:35:38,689 --> 00:35:42,620
But as it turns out,
Joe's memory is a little fuzzy.
688
00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:46,896
I don't know what happened
at the tail end of that.
689
00:35:46,965 --> 00:35:48,793
I just remember standing
690
00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:51,034
back at the camp,
talking with Janice.
691
00:35:51,103 --> 00:35:52,379
I don't remember walking away.
692
00:35:52,448 --> 00:35:55,068
I don't remember...
how did that end?
693
00:35:55,137 --> 00:35:58,344
Which is, to me-- even now,
all these years later--
694
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:00,379
is really bizarre.
695
00:36:00,482 --> 00:36:02,827
SHATNER:
To many observers,
696
00:36:02,931 --> 00:36:06,206
Joe's description of Bigfoot
sounds less like a primate
697
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:09,551
and more like
something... paranormal.
698
00:36:10,793 --> 00:36:12,241
BADER:
Joe Fex's story actually
699
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:15,655
sounds a lot like
a UFO abduction account to me.
700
00:36:15,758 --> 00:36:18,448
When you claim that
there's some period of time
701
00:36:18,517 --> 00:36:20,310
that you simply
cannot account for...
702
00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:23,137
In alien abduction lore,
this is called "missing time,"
703
00:36:23,206 --> 00:36:25,827
and it's believed that the
aliens will erase your memory
704
00:36:25,896 --> 00:36:27,862
for a certain period
of the encounter.
705
00:36:27,931 --> 00:36:30,655
There are other stories
within the Bigfoot realm
706
00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:33,000
where people claim to have had
encounters with UFOs
707
00:36:33,068 --> 00:36:34,758
or even had an abduction.
708
00:36:35,758 --> 00:36:40,068
SHATNER:
Could Bigfoot actually be an extraterrestrial?
709
00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:44,206
Some Bigfoot researchers
would argue the answer is yes,
710
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:46,689
and that the strongest evidence
lies not in what happened
711
00:36:46,793 --> 00:36:49,517
during Joe's Bigfoot encounter
712
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,689
but what happened after.
713
00:36:53,827 --> 00:36:57,344
FEX:
Two weeks later, at maybe 10:30, 11:00 in the morning.
714
00:36:57,413 --> 00:36:58,620
I go into the shower
715
00:36:58,724 --> 00:37:00,344
and I come back
out of the shower,
716
00:37:00,413 --> 00:37:02,000
uh, dry off real quick,
717
00:37:02,068 --> 00:37:03,724
relax for a minute.
718
00:37:03,793 --> 00:37:05,689
I have a cup of coffee.
719
00:37:05,793 --> 00:37:07,862
I unconsciously reached
back here
720
00:37:07,965 --> 00:37:10,448
and I could feel something.
721
00:37:10,517 --> 00:37:13,724
I realized there was
a relatively deep hole
722
00:37:13,793 --> 00:37:15,620
that I could fit my pinky into.
723
00:37:15,724 --> 00:37:18,206
It didn't feel like a wound.
724
00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:19,241
It felt perfectly fine.
725
00:37:19,344 --> 00:37:22,034
It didn't hurt at all.
There was no sensation.
726
00:37:22,965 --> 00:37:25,862
SHATNER:
An inexplicable hole in your head
727
00:37:25,931 --> 00:37:29,068
isn't something
that's easy to understand.
728
00:37:29,137 --> 00:37:33,034
But after considering
every possibility,
729
00:37:33,103 --> 00:37:37,379
Joe recognized that what
happened to him was bizarre
730
00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:39,931
but not exactly unheard of.
731
00:37:40,034 --> 00:37:43,000
All of these things
are extremely familiar
732
00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:44,551
in the field of UFOs
733
00:37:44,655 --> 00:37:48,034
and the subfield
of UFO abductions.
734
00:37:48,103 --> 00:37:51,724
They have similarities
in their patterns of behavior,
735
00:37:51,793 --> 00:37:54,965
similarities in the environment
and the circumstances,
736
00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:57,827
similarities in
the side effects.
737
00:37:57,896 --> 00:38:00,379
I don't know
if these things are related,
738
00:38:00,482 --> 00:38:02,172
but there is a correlation.
739
00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:06,862
SHATNER:
Joe Fex may not have any definitive answers
740
00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:10,137
about Bigfoot
or about his experience.
741
00:38:10,241 --> 00:38:12,172
But what he does have
742
00:38:12,275 --> 00:38:14,620
are some intriguing
possibilities to consider,
743
00:38:14,724 --> 00:38:17,827
thanks to the information
that he has exchanged
744
00:38:17,931 --> 00:38:20,482
with other Bigfoot researchers.
745
00:38:20,551 --> 00:38:24,448
And there are some who believe
that this kind of cooperation
746
00:38:24,551 --> 00:38:28,827
will finally prove
that Bigfoot is real.
747
00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:36,137
SHATNER: The Oregon Coast
Mountain Range.
748
00:38:36,206 --> 00:38:40,586
Here, not far from the shore
of the Pacific Ocean,
749
00:38:40,689 --> 00:38:44,586
lies a densely wooded area
that, once a year,
750
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:47,413
is the site of
an invitation-only conference
751
00:38:47,482 --> 00:38:51,172
attended by international
experts in their field.
752
00:38:51,275 --> 00:38:53,931
It's called...
753
00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:56,551
Beachfoot.
754
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:58,620
NEISS:
It was in 2003
755
00:38:58,724 --> 00:39:00,758
that I had this thought,
756
00:39:00,862 --> 00:39:02,896
"You know, what would happen
if you could get
757
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,551
"all of these
well-known researchers
758
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,931
locked in the same room
at the same time?"
759
00:39:09,034 --> 00:39:12,655
The amount of brain trust
there would be amazing.
760
00:39:12,758 --> 00:39:15,793
MIONCZYNSKI:
The Beachfoot gatherings,
761
00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:18,586
where scientists get
to discuss openly
762
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,034
their research and findings
763
00:39:21,137 --> 00:39:22,344
concerning Bigfoot...
764
00:39:22,448 --> 00:39:25,413
I think it's
a very important step
765
00:39:25,482 --> 00:39:28,862
which will open up the subject
766
00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:31,620
to other scientists
who are interested
767
00:39:31,724 --> 00:39:33,172
in studying
this kind of phenomenon.
768
00:39:34,275 --> 00:39:36,344
MELDRUM: One of my most
enjoyable activities
769
00:39:36,448 --> 00:39:37,827
at such an event is, sometimes
770
00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:41,448
I teach a workshop
on "Tracking 101."
771
00:39:41,517 --> 00:39:45,689
Those are opportunities
where non-academics,
772
00:39:45,758 --> 00:39:50,172
non-PhDs, can strive to emulate
the scientific method
773
00:39:50,275 --> 00:39:52,482
in their own search
774
00:39:52,551 --> 00:39:55,482
for the evidence
they presume to find.
775
00:39:55,551 --> 00:39:58,068
SHATNER:
Gatherings like Beachfoot
776
00:39:58,172 --> 00:40:01,448
prove that the legend of Bigfoot
is alive and well.
777
00:40:01,551 --> 00:40:03,862
But how is that possible
778
00:40:03,965 --> 00:40:07,275
when no conclusive evidence
of Bigfoot has ever been found?
779
00:40:08,965 --> 00:40:13,620
What drives our interest
in this enduring mystery?
780
00:40:13,689 --> 00:40:15,655
The reason I believe
781
00:40:15,724 --> 00:40:17,931
that the Sasquatch subject
has such staying power
782
00:40:18,034 --> 00:40:21,551
is that there's
so many witnesses out there.
783
00:40:21,655 --> 00:40:24,448
There's many parts
of the country where, if you go
784
00:40:24,517 --> 00:40:26,241
and ask people
if they've ever seen one,
785
00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:28,068
so often you'll hear,
786
00:40:28,172 --> 00:40:30,758
"No, I haven't,
but I know somebody who has."
787
00:40:30,862 --> 00:40:32,758
So, there's many people
out there
788
00:40:32,862 --> 00:40:35,551
who at least know
someone they trust
789
00:40:35,655 --> 00:40:37,896
who has told them
that they've seen these things.
790
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,827
And that has had
the effect of changing
791
00:40:39,931 --> 00:40:42,000
people's opinion
about the subject
792
00:40:42,103 --> 00:40:45,586
of what would otherwise be just
total skepticism everywhere.
793
00:40:47,482 --> 00:40:49,931
BURDORFF:
Bigfoot matters because
794
00:40:50,034 --> 00:40:53,758
it would be tangible proof
of a solved mystery.
795
00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:56,275
Finding a real Bigfoot,
796
00:40:56,344 --> 00:40:57,655
a real creature,
797
00:40:57,758 --> 00:41:01,655
would be like discovering
798
00:41:01,758 --> 00:41:04,137
another piece of the world.
799
00:41:04,241 --> 00:41:08,448
And it's... it's us reaching
for another piece
800
00:41:08,551 --> 00:41:10,586
of that unknown
801
00:41:10,689 --> 00:41:12,862
that's always
just beyond our reach.
802
00:41:14,551 --> 00:41:18,068
So, now, what do you think? Huh?
803
00:41:18,137 --> 00:41:19,724
Is Bigfoot real,
804
00:41:19,827 --> 00:41:23,310
or is it all just part
of an elaborate hoax?
805
00:41:23,413 --> 00:41:26,275
I guess that depends on what
kind of a person you are.
806
00:41:26,379 --> 00:41:29,000
If you're the open-minded type
807
00:41:29,103 --> 00:41:31,724
who believes that the world
is filled with wonder,
808
00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:33,965
then you probably believe
it's real.
809
00:41:34,034 --> 00:41:37,724
If you are the hard-nosed,
cynical type,
810
00:41:37,793 --> 00:41:41,310
then you're convinced
it's all nonsense.
811
00:41:42,724 --> 00:41:45,551
But then there is a third type.
812
00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:48,827
The type who has
actually seen Bigfoot
813
00:41:48,896 --> 00:41:50,827
in the fur-covered flesh.
814
00:41:50,896 --> 00:41:53,724
For you, Bigfoot is real,
815
00:41:53,827 --> 00:41:56,344
and your experience
has convinced you
816
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:58,620
that there is much
about this mysterious creature
817
00:41:58,689 --> 00:42:02,931
that, for now,
remains unexplained.
818
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,034
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