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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,448 --> 00:00:08,655 WILLIAM SHATNER: It hides in the shadows. 2 00:00:08,758 --> 00:00:13,172 A giant, hairy creature that walks on two feet 3 00:00:13,275 --> 00:00:17,206 and watches us with glowing eyes. 4 00:00:18,103 --> 00:00:21,000 Does Bigfoot really exist? 5 00:00:21,103 --> 00:00:23,206 Part ape, part man? 6 00:00:23,275 --> 00:00:26,172 As crazy as it seems, 7 00:00:26,275 --> 00:00:28,965 there are many who believe that not only 8 00:00:29,068 --> 00:00:33,068 is such a creature real but they've seen it, 9 00:00:33,172 --> 00:00:36,862 tracked it, even photographed it. 10 00:00:36,965 --> 00:00:42,482 But then, if Bigfoot does exist, what is it? 11 00:00:42,551 --> 00:00:46,000 Where does it come from? How many are there? 12 00:00:46,068 --> 00:00:48,862 And perhaps more importantly... 13 00:00:48,965 --> 00:00:51,620 [creature snarling] 14 00:00:53,896 --> 00:00:56,379 ...should we be afraid of it? 15 00:00:56,448 --> 00:01:01,620 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 16 00:01:21,137 --> 00:01:23,586 Bigfoot researcher Matt Moneymaker and a colleague 17 00:01:23,689 --> 00:01:27,103 are investigating reported Bigfoot sightings 18 00:01:27,172 --> 00:01:30,068 in a wooded area near the town of Kent. 19 00:01:30,137 --> 00:01:33,310 After spending years pursuing Bigfoot 20 00:01:33,379 --> 00:01:35,655 in hopes of seeing one himself, 21 00:01:35,724 --> 00:01:38,034 Matt is eager to find out whether there really is 22 00:01:38,103 --> 00:01:40,862 a giant creature in these woods. 23 00:01:40,965 --> 00:01:43,137 MATT MONEYMAKER: We were staked out 24 00:01:43,206 --> 00:01:46,206 along a road, the guy I was with was about 60 feet away. 25 00:01:47,862 --> 00:01:50,137 And at about 2:30 a.m., 26 00:01:50,241 --> 00:01:52,620 something comes walking down the road. 27 00:01:52,689 --> 00:01:54,413 I see something. 28 00:01:54,517 --> 00:01:56,482 He sees it first through night vision. 29 00:02:01,068 --> 00:02:03,793 SHATNER: Matt rushes over to investigate, 30 00:02:03,862 --> 00:02:06,206 and is stopped dead in his tracks by the sound of... 31 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:09,689 - [growling] - ...inhuman growling. 32 00:02:11,896 --> 00:02:13,137 MONEYMAKER: This thing steps out. 33 00:02:14,620 --> 00:02:18,172 A very big, tall, hair-covered thing... 34 00:02:19,724 --> 00:02:22,206 ...standing out there growling at me. 35 00:02:22,310 --> 00:02:24,413 When you've got something that big 36 00:02:24,517 --> 00:02:26,724 that close to you, you could see it well enough to know 37 00:02:26,793 --> 00:02:28,172 that must be a Bigfoot. 38 00:02:28,275 --> 00:02:30,551 So I just kind of backed up 39 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:32,206 and walked away. 40 00:02:35,413 --> 00:02:37,241 I was pretty happy at that point, 41 00:02:37,344 --> 00:02:40,137 because I'm thinking, "If this one's gonna do that, 42 00:02:40,206 --> 00:02:41,793 "reliably, then this is a place 43 00:02:41,896 --> 00:02:43,758 "that we're gonna get some video footage of them 44 00:02:43,862 --> 00:02:46,275 if we're coming here with the right kind of gear." 45 00:02:47,448 --> 00:02:48,517 SHATNER: But when Matt returned 46 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:51,034 with camera equipment to document the encounter, 47 00:02:51,103 --> 00:02:53,206 the creature had vanished. 48 00:02:53,275 --> 00:02:55,137 Although Matt was not able to photograph 49 00:02:55,206 --> 00:02:57,275 the large, hairy beast that he witnessed, 50 00:02:57,344 --> 00:03:02,482 he remains convinced that what he saw was, in fact, Bigfoot. 51 00:03:04,413 --> 00:03:07,413 It's one of those things that sounds so over-the-top, 52 00:03:07,517 --> 00:03:10,689 but after I had a face-to-face encounter, 53 00:03:10,793 --> 00:03:13,137 I knew it was exactly the same thing 54 00:03:13,241 --> 00:03:17,068 that all the witnesses around there had described. 55 00:03:17,137 --> 00:03:19,793 SHATNER: The encounter inspired Matt 56 00:03:19,862 --> 00:03:24,586 to found the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, 57 00:03:24,689 --> 00:03:26,103 or BFRO. 58 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:30,586 MONEYMAKER: The roots of it are people who were sharing information. 59 00:03:30,689 --> 00:03:32,965 We were sharing sighting reports, mainly, 60 00:03:33,034 --> 00:03:34,482 from different parts of the country. 61 00:03:34,551 --> 00:03:36,482 And I came up with the idea that, 62 00:03:36,586 --> 00:03:38,724 "Why don't we put all these into a website?" 63 00:03:38,827 --> 00:03:41,793 You know, sort it by county and state 64 00:03:41,862 --> 00:03:44,241 so people can look up reports. 65 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:46,310 And when we did that, it worked really well. 66 00:03:46,413 --> 00:03:48,862 Lots of people started submitting reports. 67 00:03:49,724 --> 00:03:51,655 SHATNER: According to the BFRO, 68 00:03:51,758 --> 00:03:54,931 there have been more than 3,500 credible Bigfoot sightings 69 00:03:55,034 --> 00:03:58,172 since 1960. 70 00:03:58,275 --> 00:04:00,862 Although science has yet to prove the existence 71 00:04:00,931 --> 00:04:05,448 of the legendary man-beast, that hasn't stopped Bigfoot 72 00:04:05,517 --> 00:04:08,793 from becoming a full-fledged phenomenon. 73 00:04:10,655 --> 00:04:12,620 CHRISTOPHER BADER: Bigfoot is literally everywhere. 74 00:04:12,724 --> 00:04:14,586 There are Bigfoot stories in Nevada. 75 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:17,000 There are Bigfoot stories in Nebraska, 76 00:04:17,103 --> 00:04:19,655 Florida, Texas. 77 00:04:19,758 --> 00:04:22,068 Literally every part of the country 78 00:04:22,172 --> 00:04:25,689 has its own stories and legends of Bigfoot. 79 00:04:25,793 --> 00:04:28,655 It's likely, wherever you live in this country, 80 00:04:28,724 --> 00:04:30,620 you are within a hundred miles of a place 81 00:04:30,724 --> 00:04:32,448 that purportedly has a Bigfoot. 82 00:04:34,103 --> 00:04:37,206 SHATNER: If these sightings are of a real creature, 83 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:40,068 then what exactly is Bigfoot? 84 00:04:40,137 --> 00:04:43,344 And how did this phenomenon begin? 85 00:04:44,931 --> 00:04:48,379 TOK THOMPSON: Bigfoot is generally reported to be 86 00:04:48,448 --> 00:04:52,379 a very large, very furry, uh, hominid creature. 87 00:04:52,482 --> 00:04:56,379 Something like a person, uh, but not a person, 88 00:04:56,482 --> 00:04:59,724 seen very often remotely in the forest. 89 00:04:59,793 --> 00:05:03,068 And with various stories about sightings 90 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:06,655 or about footprints that really are pretty widespread 91 00:05:06,758 --> 00:05:09,862 in many, many communities in the United States and in Canada. 92 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:17,655 Before 1958, people didn't use the word "Bigfoot." 93 00:05:19,482 --> 00:05:21,758 But it was in 1958 in Northern California, 94 00:05:21,827 --> 00:05:23,551 guys building a road 95 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:25,896 found footprints around their gear 96 00:05:25,965 --> 00:05:27,827 when they would come back in the morning. 97 00:05:27,896 --> 00:05:31,068 And a guy named Jerry Crew made plaster footprints 98 00:05:31,137 --> 00:05:35,068 of these tracks and showed them to a reporter in Eureka, 99 00:05:35,137 --> 00:05:38,172 and they dubbed it "Bigfoot." 100 00:05:38,241 --> 00:05:40,275 That was where the name first originated 101 00:05:40,344 --> 00:05:42,965 and got into American vocabulary. 102 00:05:43,896 --> 00:05:45,758 SHATNER: Photos of Jerry Crew's cast 103 00:05:45,862 --> 00:05:49,620 of giant footprints made headlines across the country. 104 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:53,413 Many Americans came to believe that a tall, 105 00:05:53,517 --> 00:05:56,517 bipedal, apelike creature roamed the forests 106 00:05:56,586 --> 00:05:58,931 of the Pacific Northwest. 107 00:06:00,034 --> 00:06:02,689 I grew up in Washington State, where it's hard 108 00:06:02,758 --> 00:06:04,896 to underestimate Bigfoot's power. 109 00:06:06,793 --> 00:06:10,034 Bigfoot is the mascot of different companies. 110 00:06:10,862 --> 00:06:14,655 Bigfoot is all over billboards. 111 00:06:14,758 --> 00:06:16,655 As a young boy in Washington State, 112 00:06:16,724 --> 00:06:19,586 I fully believed in Bigfoot's existence. 113 00:06:21,482 --> 00:06:24,896 SHATNER: In 1967, interest in Bigfoot surged 114 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,793 when an investigator named Roger Patterson 115 00:06:28,896 --> 00:06:32,344 captured incredible footage of a creature 116 00:06:32,413 --> 00:06:34,896 that matched the description of Bigfoot 117 00:06:34,965 --> 00:06:38,517 near Bluff Creek in Northern California. 118 00:06:40,172 --> 00:06:42,931 Patterson's film became an instant sensation, 119 00:06:43,034 --> 00:06:47,000 but skeptics claimed that it had to be a man 120 00:06:47,103 --> 00:06:48,965 in a monkey suit. 121 00:06:49,068 --> 00:06:51,482 One of the issues when it comes to people believing 122 00:06:51,551 --> 00:06:53,862 in Bigfoot existing 123 00:06:53,931 --> 00:06:57,551 is, let's face it, mainstream sciences 124 00:06:57,655 --> 00:07:00,068 shun away from this topic. 125 00:07:00,137 --> 00:07:04,482 However, amateur researchers are trying to pick up the slack, 126 00:07:04,551 --> 00:07:05,965 bridge that gap 127 00:07:06,034 --> 00:07:09,517 between amateur and mainstream science. 128 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:12,172 SHATNER: Bigfoot researchers claim that the vast majority 129 00:07:12,241 --> 00:07:14,896 of Bigfoot sightings are sincere, 130 00:07:14,965 --> 00:07:19,896 and that hoaxes represent only a small fraction of reports. 131 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 They also point out that stories of Bigfoot-like animals 132 00:07:23,103 --> 00:07:26,000 are not merely a recent fad. 133 00:07:26,103 --> 00:07:29,482 Believe it or not, more than 3,000 years ago, 134 00:07:29,551 --> 00:07:32,827 the ancient Babylonians told stories of a creature 135 00:07:32,931 --> 00:07:35,482 that sounds an awful lot like Bigfoot. 136 00:07:35,551 --> 00:07:38,034 Except they called it Enkidu. 137 00:07:39,689 --> 00:07:41,965 SARA BURDORFF: Enkidu is a... 138 00:07:42,034 --> 00:07:47,724 hairy, wild man creature with super strength, 139 00:07:47,793 --> 00:07:51,103 and he's fearsome, he's ready and willing 140 00:07:51,172 --> 00:07:53,965 to defend this wild territory that he inhabits. 141 00:07:54,034 --> 00:07:58,068 The king, Gilgamesh, becomes his soulmate, basically. 142 00:07:58,137 --> 00:07:59,000 Best friends. 143 00:07:59,068 --> 00:08:04,793 So, this king becomes this amazing hero 144 00:08:04,896 --> 00:08:09,344 through his relationship with this wild man 145 00:08:09,448 --> 00:08:12,310 that has shown him 146 00:08:12,379 --> 00:08:18,862 how to negotiate the boundaries between humanity and wildness. 147 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:22,758 SHATNER: Since that time, descriptions of so-called "wild men," 148 00:08:22,862 --> 00:08:24,137 half-human, half-ape beasts, 149 00:08:24,241 --> 00:08:28,344 have popped up throughout history, all over the world. 150 00:08:28,448 --> 00:08:29,793 JONATHAN YOUNG: In the Caucasus, 151 00:08:29,896 --> 00:08:31,448 there was something called the alma 152 00:08:31,517 --> 00:08:34,551 that was a big monster, a nature creature. 153 00:08:36,068 --> 00:08:39,172 In Australia, there's the Aboriginal version 154 00:08:39,241 --> 00:08:40,862 which is called a yowie. 155 00:08:40,931 --> 00:08:43,896 There is the Yeti in the Himalayas. 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,862 So there are local variations, 157 00:08:45,931 --> 00:08:48,379 but the story is more or less the same. 158 00:08:48,482 --> 00:08:51,068 Very big, seemingly animallike, 159 00:08:51,172 --> 00:08:53,586 or is it human or is it some hybrid? 160 00:08:53,689 --> 00:08:54,758 There's the point. 161 00:08:54,827 --> 00:08:57,034 SHATNER: In North America, 162 00:08:57,137 --> 00:09:00,241 there are Native American legends that go back centuries, 163 00:09:00,344 --> 00:09:03,068 long before the discoveries made by Jerry Crew 164 00:09:03,137 --> 00:09:04,965 or Roger Patterson. 165 00:09:05,034 --> 00:09:07,206 LYNNE McNEILL: We know that Sasquatch, 166 00:09:07,275 --> 00:09:10,344 the preeminent Bigfoot creature that we have 167 00:09:10,448 --> 00:09:13,827 in the United States, located in the Pacific Northwest, 168 00:09:13,931 --> 00:09:18,620 that very word, "Sasquatch," comes from a Salish tribal word 169 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:22,724 that means "wild man" or "hairy man." 170 00:09:24,034 --> 00:09:26,965 YOUNG: The natives of the Northwest say that there are creatures 171 00:09:27,068 --> 00:09:30,517 that walk upright and only at night. 172 00:09:30,586 --> 00:09:33,862 And can speak in their language. 173 00:09:33,931 --> 00:09:37,275 NEISS: I found, in speaking with indigenous peoples, 174 00:09:37,379 --> 00:09:41,310 that they don't describe them as an animal at all. 175 00:09:41,413 --> 00:09:45,827 They call them the First Ones, or the Old Ones. 176 00:09:45,931 --> 00:09:50,137 "These were the tribe that was here before we got here." 177 00:09:53,896 --> 00:09:57,793 SHATNER: An ancient tribe that predates humanity? 178 00:09:57,896 --> 00:09:59,862 It's a fascinating notion, 179 00:09:59,931 --> 00:10:03,655 one that Bigfoot researchers are eager to investigate. 180 00:10:03,724 --> 00:10:07,034 And there are some who will risk going into the deepest 181 00:10:07,103 --> 00:10:12,758 and darkest forests to try and capture the huge creature, 182 00:10:12,827 --> 00:10:16,241 even though it may not want to be found. 183 00:10:16,344 --> 00:10:18,206 [low growl] 184 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,379 SHATNER: Future U.S. President Teddy Roosevelt 185 00:10:29,482 --> 00:10:31,758 publishes The Wilderness Hunter, 186 00:10:31,827 --> 00:10:33,586 a book about his youthful adventures 187 00:10:33,689 --> 00:10:36,551 in the Dakota Territory. 188 00:10:36,620 --> 00:10:39,586 His memoir contains a story that was told to him 189 00:10:39,655 --> 00:10:43,103 by an old mountain man, who, years before, 190 00:10:43,206 --> 00:10:47,758 had encountered an apelike creature deep in the woods. 191 00:10:49,103 --> 00:10:52,689 There were some trappers and they kept having 192 00:10:52,758 --> 00:10:54,862 encounters kind of in the dark 193 00:10:54,965 --> 00:10:58,517 with what they thought were these huge creatures 194 00:10:58,586 --> 00:11:01,896 that were leaving huge manlike footprints. 195 00:11:03,724 --> 00:11:06,758 One of the guys decided to go off and check traps, 196 00:11:06,862 --> 00:11:09,275 and the other one would hide back at camp 197 00:11:09,344 --> 00:11:11,172 and see what was coming in every time 198 00:11:11,275 --> 00:11:14,000 that they would leave camp. 199 00:11:15,586 --> 00:11:18,068 When the guy came back from checking traps, 200 00:11:18,137 --> 00:11:19,586 he found his friend dead, 201 00:11:19,655 --> 00:11:23,000 his body broken over a log, 202 00:11:23,103 --> 00:11:25,965 and it looked like it had just been pummeled. 203 00:11:26,068 --> 00:11:27,724 And they attributed it to 204 00:11:27,827 --> 00:11:30,206 an eight-foot-tall, 600-pound ape. 205 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:35,655 SHATNER: The disturbing encounter recorded by Roosevelt 206 00:11:35,758 --> 00:11:38,517 is one of the earliest accounts of American pioneers 207 00:11:38,620 --> 00:11:40,482 coming face-to-face 208 00:11:40,551 --> 00:11:43,103 with what many Native Americans called... 209 00:11:43,206 --> 00:11:45,413 Sasquatch. 210 00:11:45,517 --> 00:11:48,655 If the story is true, 211 00:11:48,758 --> 00:11:52,517 it seems like Sasquatch wasn't very friendly 212 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:55,310 towards humans who encroached on its territory. 213 00:11:55,413 --> 00:11:57,172 [low growling] 214 00:11:57,241 --> 00:11:59,689 There are vastly different ideas within the Bigfoot subculture 215 00:11:59,793 --> 00:12:01,965 about Bigfoot's disposition. 216 00:12:02,034 --> 00:12:06,586 Some believe that Bigfoot is an angry, homicidal predator. 217 00:12:06,655 --> 00:12:09,275 And if you come into its domain, 218 00:12:09,379 --> 00:12:11,103 it will try to kill you if it can. 219 00:12:11,206 --> 00:12:14,724 Others believe that Bigfoot is merely an animal. 220 00:12:14,827 --> 00:12:18,482 And just like a grizzly bear might become aggressive 221 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:21,068 under the right circumstances, it could. 222 00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:26,206 SHATNER: Over the past century, more 223 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,103 of the American wilderness has been settled, 224 00:12:28,206 --> 00:12:31,344 with the construction of new housing, industry, 225 00:12:31,448 --> 00:12:33,724 and infrastructure. 226 00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:36,689 But if we have been encroaching on Bigfoot's habitat 227 00:12:36,793 --> 00:12:40,379 for so long, then how come no one has ever 228 00:12:40,448 --> 00:12:43,103 recovered the body of one? 229 00:12:43,172 --> 00:12:46,655 It's been estimated perhaps 2,000 of these things exist 230 00:12:46,758 --> 00:12:48,137 throughout the Pacific Northwest. 231 00:12:48,206 --> 00:12:50,068 Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't. 232 00:12:51,896 --> 00:12:54,379 Considering two of the major ranges, 233 00:12:54,448 --> 00:12:57,965 the Cascade Range and the Coast Range, 234 00:12:58,034 --> 00:13:01,931 make up 68,000 square miles, mostly uninhabited. 235 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,793 When you distribute 2,000 of anything 236 00:13:06,862 --> 00:13:10,620 in 68,000 square miles... 237 00:13:10,724 --> 00:13:13,827 you'd be lucky to run across one in your life. 238 00:13:15,724 --> 00:13:17,448 BADER: People who believe that Bigfoot is 239 00:13:17,551 --> 00:13:18,965 a biological creature will simply 240 00:13:19,068 --> 00:13:20,586 talk about how stealthy it is, 241 00:13:20,689 --> 00:13:22,620 that it's very good at moving 242 00:13:22,724 --> 00:13:24,620 through the woods without making any noise 243 00:13:24,724 --> 00:13:27,448 and therefore can slip away at will. 244 00:13:27,517 --> 00:13:31,965 SHATNER: Is Bigfoot simply too elusive to be captured? 245 00:13:32,034 --> 00:13:34,793 Perhaps. 246 00:13:34,862 --> 00:13:37,896 But that hasn't stopped an army 247 00:13:37,965 --> 00:13:40,379 of so-called "Bigfoot hunters" 248 00:13:40,448 --> 00:13:43,206 from trying to track it down. 249 00:13:43,275 --> 00:13:45,862 JEFF MELDRUM: The role of citizen scientists 250 00:13:45,965 --> 00:13:48,862 is potentially a very significant one. 251 00:13:48,965 --> 00:13:52,482 It may well be that major discoveries 252 00:13:52,551 --> 00:13:55,655 will be made not by scientists in this arena, 253 00:13:55,758 --> 00:13:58,413 but by citizen scientists. 254 00:13:58,482 --> 00:14:00,793 BADER: Modern Bigfoot hunters 255 00:14:00,896 --> 00:14:03,379 use techniques such as wood knocking... 256 00:14:03,482 --> 00:14:04,827 [whoops] 257 00:14:04,896 --> 00:14:07,896 ...playing purported Bigfoot screams while in the woods. 258 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,862 These are things that many modern Bigfoot investigators 259 00:14:10,965 --> 00:14:14,034 believe will draw any nearby Sasquatch to you. 260 00:14:15,241 --> 00:14:17,965 MONEYMAKER: I think the future of Bigfoot research, 261 00:14:18,034 --> 00:14:21,896 in a lot of ways, rests with new optics with thermal imagers. 262 00:14:23,862 --> 00:14:26,482 And especially with drones, 263 00:14:26,551 --> 00:14:28,896 thermal imagers attached to drones. 264 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,689 I really do see a future where the next 265 00:14:32,758 --> 00:14:34,758 big, profound piece of footage 266 00:14:34,862 --> 00:14:36,965 is gonna be gotten by a drone. 267 00:14:37,034 --> 00:14:39,793 BADER: Many Bigfoot hunters 268 00:14:39,896 --> 00:14:42,068 are very much devoted to the idea 269 00:14:42,172 --> 00:14:43,896 that the creature that they're looking for 270 00:14:43,965 --> 00:14:45,827 is an undiscovered animal. 271 00:14:45,931 --> 00:14:48,275 They believe that if they try hard enough, 272 00:14:48,344 --> 00:14:50,655 they could capture sufficient evidence 273 00:14:50,758 --> 00:14:52,172 to prove the issue once and for all. 274 00:14:52,241 --> 00:14:54,620 SHATNER: Bigfoot hunters have set their sights 275 00:14:54,724 --> 00:14:57,103 on catching the beast itself. 276 00:14:57,172 --> 00:15:00,034 But the most compelling pieces of evidence 277 00:15:00,103 --> 00:15:03,000 that we have right now are the huge footprints 278 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:05,448 that have been found for decades. 279 00:15:05,551 --> 00:15:08,965 And according to anthropologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum, 280 00:15:09,068 --> 00:15:11,413 these impressions in the ground 281 00:15:11,517 --> 00:15:14,068 prove that there really is 282 00:15:14,137 --> 00:15:16,862 an enormous primate roaming the forest. 283 00:15:16,931 --> 00:15:20,655 MELDRUM: My research expertise centers around 284 00:15:20,724 --> 00:15:23,413 the adaptations of the human body 285 00:15:23,517 --> 00:15:27,206 for bipedalism-- the habit of walking on two legs. 286 00:15:28,206 --> 00:15:31,655 So that put me in a very apropos position 287 00:15:31,758 --> 00:15:34,620 to address what is probably 288 00:15:34,724 --> 00:15:36,793 the most prolific and, in my opinion, 289 00:15:36,862 --> 00:15:39,413 by far the most compelling body of evidence 290 00:15:39,482 --> 00:15:42,000 for the existence of Sasquatch, 291 00:15:42,068 --> 00:15:44,206 namely the footprints. 292 00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:48,793 SHATNER: Dr. Meldrum's interest in Bigfoot footprints started 293 00:15:48,896 --> 00:15:52,172 in 1996 when he and a colleague came across 294 00:15:52,241 --> 00:15:54,931 a remarkable line of footprints 295 00:15:55,034 --> 00:15:58,448 in Southeastern Washington. 296 00:15:58,551 --> 00:16:02,068 As we walk out there, here's this unmistakable line 297 00:16:02,137 --> 00:16:04,724 of footprints in the mud, 298 00:16:04,793 --> 00:16:07,724 these 15-inch footprints, 299 00:16:07,827 --> 00:16:11,172 and the hair stood up on the back of my neck 300 00:16:11,275 --> 00:16:13,379 as I realized a Sasquatch actually 301 00:16:13,448 --> 00:16:15,241 walked by here last night. 302 00:16:15,344 --> 00:16:17,827 The evidence was really unmistakable to my eye 303 00:16:17,896 --> 00:16:20,448 with my background and training. 304 00:16:21,896 --> 00:16:23,482 SHATNER: Dr. Meldrum immediately made 305 00:16:23,586 --> 00:16:25,758 several casts of the intriguing footprints. 306 00:16:25,862 --> 00:16:27,793 The first of many such casts 307 00:16:27,896 --> 00:16:30,448 that he has made throughout his career. 308 00:16:30,551 --> 00:16:33,241 Based off his research, 309 00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:37,000 he has concluded that by analyzing a variety of factors, 310 00:16:37,103 --> 00:16:40,689 such as how the foot imprints irregularities into the ground 311 00:16:40,793 --> 00:16:44,206 or the spacing of the toes in the dirt, 312 00:16:44,275 --> 00:16:47,310 it is possible to determine when footprints have been faked 313 00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:51,965 and when they were really made by a 15-inch foot. 314 00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:56,931 So here we are over 20 years later, and 315 00:16:57,034 --> 00:16:59,931 in addition to the seven footprint 316 00:17:00,034 --> 00:17:02,586 casts that I made on that afternoon, 317 00:17:02,689 --> 00:17:06,000 there are over 300 casts to keep them company here 318 00:17:06,103 --> 00:17:08,241 in the specimen drawers in my laboratory. 319 00:17:08,344 --> 00:17:10,310 It's just been an amazing road 320 00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:15,137 that has yielded, due to this extraordinary sample, 321 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:17,862 the emergence of a model of a foot 322 00:17:17,931 --> 00:17:21,000 that is not simply an enlarged facsimile 323 00:17:21,103 --> 00:17:23,862 of a human footprint but rather shows 324 00:17:23,965 --> 00:17:27,000 all the distinctions of a foot adapted 325 00:17:27,068 --> 00:17:30,482 to transport a 800-to-1,200-pound 326 00:17:30,586 --> 00:17:32,034 bipedal primate 327 00:17:32,137 --> 00:17:35,793 through the rough, irregular, incline terrain 328 00:17:35,896 --> 00:17:37,586 of the mountainous forests 329 00:17:37,655 --> 00:17:40,586 they are said to inhabit. 330 00:17:40,689 --> 00:17:43,241 SHATNER: If Bigfoot is making 331 00:17:43,344 --> 00:17:45,793 giant footprints in the forest, 332 00:17:45,896 --> 00:17:48,137 then is it a creature that can be explained 333 00:17:48,206 --> 00:17:50,103 by conventional science? 334 00:17:50,172 --> 00:17:53,413 Bigfoot researchers believe the answer is yes. 335 00:17:53,517 --> 00:17:57,655 And they claim that Bigfoot is an animal... 336 00:17:57,758 --> 00:18:00,344 that has already been found. 337 00:18:11,517 --> 00:18:15,517 SHATNER: Explorer Robert von Beringe is leading an expedition 338 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:17,896 up Mount Sabyinyo 339 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,655 when he comes upon a troop of gorillas. 340 00:18:20,758 --> 00:18:23,000 Which is extraordinary, because according 341 00:18:23,068 --> 00:18:25,965 to mainstream scientists at the time, gorillas aren't 342 00:18:26,068 --> 00:18:28,103 supposed to live in the mountains. 343 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,034 BADER: For years, when reports came out 344 00:18:31,103 --> 00:18:32,965 about mountain gorillas, people said, 345 00:18:33,068 --> 00:18:34,862 "They're lying, they're hoaxers," 346 00:18:34,965 --> 00:18:37,517 until we finally had specimens. 347 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:39,862 [gorilla hooting] 348 00:18:40,827 --> 00:18:42,896 And now the mountain gorilla are part 349 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,241 of the public and historical record. 350 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:47,137 MELDRUM: The discovery of the gorilla 351 00:18:47,241 --> 00:18:49,448 is actually a very good example 352 00:18:49,551 --> 00:18:52,034 of the manner in which 353 00:18:52,137 --> 00:18:55,344 the existence of an unknown primate species 354 00:18:55,413 --> 00:18:59,655 was eventually recognized by Western science. 355 00:18:59,758 --> 00:19:03,310 And science requires a type specimen 356 00:19:03,379 --> 00:19:05,827 in order to justify 357 00:19:05,931 --> 00:19:08,310 the recognition of a novel species. 358 00:19:09,241 --> 00:19:11,689 SHATNER: For Bigfoot researchers, the discovery 359 00:19:11,758 --> 00:19:13,724 of the mountain gorilla is an example 360 00:19:13,827 --> 00:19:16,000 of how the assumptions of mainstream scientists 361 00:19:16,103 --> 00:19:18,103 are not always correct. 362 00:19:18,172 --> 00:19:21,413 And they argue that if the mountain gorilla survived 363 00:19:21,517 --> 00:19:25,103 in the African mountains, unrecognized by science 364 00:19:25,172 --> 00:19:30,068 until 1902, that it's possible that Bigfoot 365 00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:33,827 is alive in the vast forests of North America. 366 00:19:33,896 --> 00:19:36,758 It just hasn't been verified yet. 367 00:19:36,827 --> 00:19:40,758 But is Bigfoot really an unknown creature? 368 00:19:40,862 --> 00:19:42,862 Or is it simply another name for a creature 369 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:46,068 we've known about for decades? 370 00:19:46,137 --> 00:19:49,862 There's various theories as to what this type of primate is. 371 00:19:49,965 --> 00:19:53,931 But it most likely is related to this line of apes 372 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:56,931 out of Southeast Asia, the most famous of which was called 373 00:19:57,034 --> 00:20:00,724 Gigantopithecus,the largest apes that ever lived. 374 00:20:00,827 --> 00:20:04,241 MELDRUM: Gigantopithecuswas a species that existed 375 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:08,931 during the late Pleistocene, perhaps until as recently as 376 00:20:09,034 --> 00:20:11,068 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, 377 00:20:11,172 --> 00:20:13,275 according to the fossil record. 378 00:20:13,379 --> 00:20:17,724 It was a giant primate of literally King Kong proportions 379 00:20:17,827 --> 00:20:22,413 that could have stood ten feet tall and weighed in excess 380 00:20:22,517 --> 00:20:24,793 of a thousand, 1,200 pounds. 381 00:20:25,827 --> 00:20:28,413 SHATNER: The theory that what we call "Bigfoot" is actually 382 00:20:28,517 --> 00:20:32,068 Gigantopithecushas profound implications. 383 00:20:32,137 --> 00:20:35,965 If true, it would mean that the existence of Bigfoot 384 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:38,758 has already been scientifically verified. 385 00:20:38,827 --> 00:20:40,724 There's just one problem. 386 00:20:40,793 --> 00:20:44,448 According to paleontologists, Gigantopithecusbecame extinct 387 00:20:44,517 --> 00:20:47,931 a long time ago. 388 00:20:48,034 --> 00:20:51,275 MELDRUM: Gigantopithecushas often been characterized 389 00:20:51,379 --> 00:20:55,206 as a creature that fed exclusively on bamboo 390 00:20:55,275 --> 00:20:57,448 and, hence, went extinct when those bamboo forests 391 00:20:57,517 --> 00:20:59,344 also expired. 392 00:20:59,448 --> 00:21:03,586 But much more insightful analyses 393 00:21:03,689 --> 00:21:06,206 of the fossilized teeth of Gigantopithecus 394 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:10,103 suggests that it had a diet that was quite diverse. 395 00:21:10,206 --> 00:21:13,137 Which is quite interesting, to have an animal that size 396 00:21:13,206 --> 00:21:16,275 that still had a very diverse, omnivorous diet. 397 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:19,103 SHATNER: But even if Gigantopithecus 398 00:21:19,206 --> 00:21:23,931 has somehow survived into the present, questions remain. 399 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:27,206 Such as, how did such a large creature migrate 400 00:21:27,275 --> 00:21:29,551 from the bamboo forests of Southeast Asia 401 00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:33,206 all the way to North America? 402 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:35,862 If Bigfoots are descendants of Gigantopithecus, 403 00:21:35,931 --> 00:21:37,310 or a line of apes like it, 404 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:40,310 they probably came over the land bridge 405 00:21:40,413 --> 00:21:42,482 the same way that Native Americans did, 406 00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,413 back when Siberia and Alaska were connected 407 00:21:45,482 --> 00:21:47,965 and all sorts of animals were able to cross over 408 00:21:48,068 --> 00:21:49,275 the Bering Strait. 409 00:21:49,344 --> 00:21:52,448 SHATNER: Bigfoot researchers are steadfast 410 00:21:52,517 --> 00:21:56,344 in their support of the Gigantopithecustheory. 411 00:21:56,448 --> 00:22:00,793 But most experts reject the idea due to lack of evidence. 412 00:22:00,896 --> 00:22:04,310 But what if the evidence does exist, 413 00:22:04,379 --> 00:22:06,551 and scientists simply aren't looking for it 414 00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:08,655 in the right places? 415 00:22:14,344 --> 00:22:17,034 Naturalist John Mionczynski is spending the summer 416 00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:19,310 working for the U.S. Forest Service. 417 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:23,241 I was employed by the U.S. Forest Service 418 00:22:23,310 --> 00:22:25,620 and the Wyoming Game and Fish Department 419 00:22:25,689 --> 00:22:27,517 on a cooperative study. 420 00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:32,034 The project was set up so that I would live in the wild. 421 00:22:32,103 --> 00:22:34,931 - [owl hooting] - SHATNER: Late one night, 422 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,034 John feels what he thinks is a large bear 423 00:22:38,103 --> 00:22:42,103 pressing against the outside of his tent. 424 00:22:42,206 --> 00:22:47,827 I was approached by something that cast a shadow. 425 00:22:47,931 --> 00:22:50,655 The Moon was just coming up, it was almost a full moon. 426 00:22:52,206 --> 00:22:55,344 I clearly saw a hand with four fingers 427 00:22:55,448 --> 00:22:57,965 and an opposed thumb, like a human hand. 428 00:22:58,034 --> 00:23:00,000 And it was large. 429 00:23:00,068 --> 00:23:02,034 It was twice the size of my hand. 430 00:23:02,103 --> 00:23:05,068 It was getting aggressive with its movements 431 00:23:05,137 --> 00:23:07,275 on the side of the tent. 432 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:08,862 I hit it with the back of my hand. 433 00:23:08,931 --> 00:23:11,275 [growling] 434 00:23:12,551 --> 00:23:15,000 Whatever it was had backed off. 435 00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:18,275 It ran back behind some trees. 436 00:23:18,379 --> 00:23:20,448 So I was totally perplexed. 437 00:23:20,517 --> 00:23:22,965 I have to say that, the thought of Sasquatch 438 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:25,448 never occurred to me at that moment. 439 00:23:25,517 --> 00:23:29,172 SHATNER: When John reported the encounter to the Forest Service, 440 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:33,137 he learned that there had been a rash of similar reports. 441 00:23:33,241 --> 00:23:34,931 His boss, afraid the sightings 442 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,655 might be the work of a prankster, 443 00:23:36,724 --> 00:23:40,000 asked him to investigate and interview the witnesses. 444 00:23:40,103 --> 00:23:41,896 MIONCZYNSKI: I eventually interviewed 445 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,896 about 25 people. 446 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,862 The most interesting one was a young man 447 00:23:48,965 --> 00:23:50,965 in a little cabin up against the mountains. 448 00:23:51,034 --> 00:23:51,965 [creature growls] 449 00:23:52,034 --> 00:23:53,586 He had reported 450 00:23:53,689 --> 00:23:56,758 seeing one of these behaving aggressively 451 00:23:56,827 --> 00:23:58,241 in front of his cabin. 452 00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,896 And he shot it. 453 00:24:05,034 --> 00:24:06,344 And he'd thought he'd killed it, 454 00:24:06,448 --> 00:24:09,137 but it got up immediately and ran off. 455 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:12,413 SHATNER: John visited the cabin and, incredibly, 456 00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:15,965 found that there were hair samples left near the house. 457 00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:18,965 He collected the hairs and brought them 458 00:24:19,068 --> 00:24:22,517 to Walter Birkby, a well-known forensic anthropologist 459 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:26,448 and leading expert on hair analysis. 460 00:24:26,517 --> 00:24:30,172 The analysis came back a few days later 461 00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:34,103 and Walter Birkby said, and this is a quote, 462 00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:38,000 "This is my first stumper. These hairs are primate." 463 00:24:38,068 --> 00:24:41,137 And he was certain about that. 464 00:24:41,241 --> 00:24:45,482 The result was controversial because a hairy primate 465 00:24:45,551 --> 00:24:50,000 is not of an animal native to Wyoming. 466 00:24:50,068 --> 00:24:53,586 That kind of suggested the idea of Bigfoot. 467 00:24:53,689 --> 00:24:57,689 SHATNER: Solid, physical evidence of a primate in Wyoming? 468 00:24:57,793 --> 00:25:00,068 You might think that the scientific community 469 00:25:00,137 --> 00:25:02,586 would be thrilled by such a discovery. 470 00:25:02,655 --> 00:25:05,241 But John quickly realized the perils 471 00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:08,206 of making that assumption. 472 00:25:08,275 --> 00:25:10,103 MIONCZYNSKI: The head of the research division 473 00:25:10,172 --> 00:25:12,310 actually chewed us out. 474 00:25:12,413 --> 00:25:14,310 Pointing his finger at us and saying, 475 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,137 "If your names are ever associated 476 00:25:16,241 --> 00:25:18,310 "with this word Bigfoot again, 477 00:25:18,379 --> 00:25:21,172 I will personally see to it that you're fired." 478 00:25:21,241 --> 00:25:23,758 [low growl] 479 00:25:23,827 --> 00:25:26,758 If hard evidence of Bigfoot really exists, 480 00:25:26,862 --> 00:25:30,344 then why are scientists so eager to dismiss it? 481 00:25:30,448 --> 00:25:33,172 Maybe it's safer to think 482 00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:38,862 that it's all just a delusion or a hoax. 483 00:25:40,482 --> 00:25:43,758 Or perhaps Bigfoot doesn't fit into their preconceived notions 484 00:25:43,862 --> 00:25:46,034 of the world. 485 00:25:46,103 --> 00:25:49,034 In any case, some evidence is difficult, 486 00:25:49,137 --> 00:25:53,551 if not downright impossible, to ignore, 487 00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:55,551 as you shall see. 488 00:26:04,103 --> 00:26:06,413 SHATNER: Researcher Robert Collier 489 00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:08,482 is leading a Bigfoot expedition 490 00:26:08,586 --> 00:26:11,689 in a remote part of the wilderness. 491 00:26:11,793 --> 00:26:15,344 COLLIER: It was about dusk, getting a little bit darker. 492 00:26:15,413 --> 00:26:19,275 And all of a sudden we hear these horrendous footsteps. 493 00:26:19,379 --> 00:26:25,724 As we looked in front of us, what we saw had two legs. 494 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:31,068 And it looked like the conical shaped head, 495 00:26:31,137 --> 00:26:33,655 the broad shoulders. 496 00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:35,551 And it's sitting right there. I'm looking at it. 497 00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,137 SHATNER: Robert and his companions were astonished 498 00:26:39,206 --> 00:26:42,517 by the two-legged creature moving near them. 499 00:26:42,586 --> 00:26:44,379 But what happened next was even more extraordinary. 500 00:26:44,448 --> 00:26:47,241 COLLIER: Soon as that happened, 501 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,551 it was like somebody had parked their car down there 502 00:26:50,655 --> 00:26:52,793 and turned on headlights. 503 00:26:52,862 --> 00:26:54,448 Lit up the whole area. 504 00:26:54,551 --> 00:26:56,931 And I remember looking at that 505 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,482 and the lights stayed on, one, two, 506 00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:03,655 three, off. 507 00:27:03,724 --> 00:27:05,758 Then it just went silent. 508 00:27:05,827 --> 00:27:08,172 But we were in such shock and pure amazement 509 00:27:08,241 --> 00:27:10,000 from that, from that sighting. 510 00:27:10,068 --> 00:27:15,793 SHATNER: A sudden, brilliant illumination deep in the forest? 511 00:27:15,862 --> 00:27:18,931 Just before the mysterious creature Robert saw 512 00:27:19,034 --> 00:27:21,000 seemingly disappeared? 513 00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:26,482 While it may sound like a fantastical story, 514 00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:30,241 this wasn't the last time Robert observed 515 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:33,517 such a strange occurrence. 516 00:27:33,586 --> 00:27:35,241 COLLIER: This last expedition, 517 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:37,310 I experienced more lights. 518 00:27:37,413 --> 00:27:40,620 We had some activity one night and I remember, 519 00:27:40,689 --> 00:27:42,931 at one point, Bigfoot turned its body 520 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,103 and it looked back at me. 521 00:27:44,172 --> 00:27:46,000 And then this blue light-- 522 00:27:46,068 --> 00:27:47,896 it was a blue streak through the forest-- 523 00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:49,620 and it shot off to the right. 524 00:27:49,689 --> 00:27:51,551 I still can't wrap my head around it. 525 00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:54,103 But still other people experience that 526 00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,172 and they're seeing the same things. 527 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,758 People are starting to see these white orbs. 528 00:27:58,827 --> 00:28:02,103 The blue lights, the streaks. 529 00:28:02,206 --> 00:28:04,137 So, there's the common denominator in there. 530 00:28:04,241 --> 00:28:08,103 SHATNER: Robert and others who have seen these inexplicable lights 531 00:28:08,172 --> 00:28:09,931 may not have all the answers. 532 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,379 However, the phenomenon 533 00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:17,275 suggests an intriguing possibility. 534 00:28:17,379 --> 00:28:21,206 You see, most researchers speculate that Bigfoot could be 535 00:28:21,275 --> 00:28:23,827 some form of ape and man 536 00:28:23,931 --> 00:28:25,758 or a mix of both. 537 00:28:25,862 --> 00:28:27,931 But what if those theories are missing the target? 538 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,827 If Bigfoot is real, 539 00:28:30,896 --> 00:28:32,931 could it be totally different 540 00:28:33,034 --> 00:28:35,620 from any kind of creature that we're familiar with? 541 00:28:35,689 --> 00:28:38,551 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining 542 00:28:38,655 --> 00:28:42,724 one of the most notorious Bigfoot encounters in history. 543 00:28:49,172 --> 00:28:53,344 Gold prospector Fred Beck and some miners are working 544 00:28:53,413 --> 00:28:56,586 on a claim not far from Mount St. Helens, 545 00:28:56,689 --> 00:29:00,344 when they hear a bizarre noise. 546 00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:01,586 BADER: Fred and one of his friends 547 00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:03,413 heard strange whistling sounds 548 00:29:03,482 --> 00:29:05,620 and all of a sudden saw a hairy creature 549 00:29:05,689 --> 00:29:07,689 peek its head out from behind a tree. 550 00:29:07,758 --> 00:29:09,379 The men instantly pulled out their guns 551 00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:10,758 and started shooting at the creature... 552 00:29:13,965 --> 00:29:16,862 ...which howled and screamed as it ran away. 553 00:29:16,931 --> 00:29:21,000 And this attack on the creature seemed to provoke it, 554 00:29:21,068 --> 00:29:22,310 because that evening 555 00:29:22,379 --> 00:29:25,896 Fred and his friends in their cabin were assaulted 556 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,379 by what seemed to be a group of Sasquatch, or Bigfeet. 557 00:29:29,482 --> 00:29:32,344 They heard pounding on the roof. 558 00:29:34,724 --> 00:29:39,068 Fred described the creatures as tall and hairy, 559 00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:42,344 having apelike faces and being entirely hair-covered, 560 00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:44,275 and between six to eight feet tall, 561 00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:45,862 running around on two legs. 562 00:29:45,965 --> 00:29:48,103 SHATNER: The men soon realized that the cabin 563 00:29:48,172 --> 00:29:51,689 would not necessarily protect them from their attackers, 564 00:29:51,793 --> 00:29:54,275 because the creatures bombarded the cabin 565 00:29:54,379 --> 00:29:56,517 with huge rocks from the cliffs above 566 00:29:56,620 --> 00:30:00,034 and then tried to get inside. 567 00:30:00,137 --> 00:30:02,931 BADER: In one especially terrifying part of the story, 568 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,413 a creature reached its hand through the cabin 569 00:30:04,517 --> 00:30:07,448 and tried to grab an ax, but Fred grabbed 570 00:30:07,517 --> 00:30:09,862 the head of the ax and turned it 571 00:30:09,931 --> 00:30:12,000 so the creature couldn't pull it through. 572 00:30:14,206 --> 00:30:16,965 The next morning, as it neared daylight, 573 00:30:17,068 --> 00:30:18,896 the attacks finally stopped. 574 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,482 And Fred and his friends decided to make their escape. 575 00:30:22,551 --> 00:30:25,965 And this story made its way into the papers. 576 00:30:26,034 --> 00:30:30,034 And ever since then, this area has been known as Ape Canyon. 577 00:30:33,241 --> 00:30:35,724 SHATNER: For some, the so-called Ape Canyon Incident 578 00:30:35,793 --> 00:30:38,137 proves that Bigfoot possesses intelligence 579 00:30:38,241 --> 00:30:43,310 that exceeds that of any known animal and rivals our own. 580 00:30:43,379 --> 00:30:48,000 But to others, the incident suggests something 581 00:30:48,068 --> 00:30:49,965 much more incredible. 582 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:52,655 BADER: If you actually look back 583 00:30:52,724 --> 00:30:56,275 to Fred Beck's own works, he did not think these creatures 584 00:30:56,379 --> 00:30:58,655 were actually undiscovered animals. 585 00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:00,689 He thought they were spiritual entities 586 00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:02,517 from another plane of existence. 587 00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:05,379 He claimed they would find a footprint track 588 00:31:05,482 --> 00:31:07,551 that would suddenly end in the middle of a sandbar, 589 00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:09,275 suggesting that a creature had just simply disappeared 590 00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:11,758 as it was walking. 591 00:31:11,827 --> 00:31:15,379 So, from his perspective, this was not an undiscovered ape. 592 00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:18,034 It was a mystical creature from another dimension. 593 00:31:18,103 --> 00:31:22,172 SHATNER: A mystical creature from another dimension? 594 00:31:22,241 --> 00:31:25,620 But how is such a thing possible? 595 00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:28,448 And doesn't that theory contradict 596 00:31:28,551 --> 00:31:32,103 mainstream Bigfoot research? 597 00:31:32,206 --> 00:31:35,034 BADER: The idea that Bigfoot might be able to disappear 598 00:31:35,137 --> 00:31:37,689 into another dimension, that is very threatening 599 00:31:37,758 --> 00:31:40,896 to that view that it's simply an undiscovered animal. 600 00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,724 And, in fact, people oftentimes make fun of Bigfoot hunters 601 00:31:43,827 --> 00:31:45,620 and say, "You're just like ghost hunters, 602 00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,206 you're just like people who see fairies and demons." 603 00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:51,551 And when you add paranormal elements to a Bigfoot story, 604 00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:53,310 you open them up for that very criticism 605 00:31:53,379 --> 00:31:54,517 that bothers them so much. 606 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:57,034 THOMPSON: Most of the contemporary traditions 607 00:31:57,137 --> 00:31:58,862 assign Bigfoot or Sasquatch 608 00:31:58,965 --> 00:31:59,965 to the natural world. 609 00:32:00,034 --> 00:32:02,689 In other words, it's not a supernatural character. 610 00:32:02,758 --> 00:32:04,413 Most of the native traditions 611 00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:06,137 would be more of the spiritual world 612 00:32:06,241 --> 00:32:07,931 or more of the supernatural world. 613 00:32:08,034 --> 00:32:10,206 That this figure is more than simply 614 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:11,931 a large hominid living out there. 615 00:32:12,034 --> 00:32:16,068 They've ascribed, uh, some powers to them, 616 00:32:16,137 --> 00:32:17,724 spiritual powers. 617 00:32:17,827 --> 00:32:21,241 They can change into different things at times, 618 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:26,103 which aids in their ability to seem to vanish on location. 619 00:32:26,172 --> 00:32:27,896 Uh, shapeshifters, if you will. 620 00:32:27,965 --> 00:32:29,965 And so they have 621 00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:33,137 a whole different respect for them, spiritually. 622 00:32:35,655 --> 00:32:39,241 Does Bigfoot really have mystical powers? 623 00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:42,689 And could this fantastical notion 624 00:32:42,793 --> 00:32:44,965 help to explain things about Bigfoot 625 00:32:45,068 --> 00:32:50,000 that have, up till now, stumped researchers? 626 00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:53,034 There are those who believe that the answer is yes-- 627 00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,655 and that one big reason 628 00:32:54,724 --> 00:32:57,310 why Bigfoot has otherworldly abilities 629 00:32:57,413 --> 00:33:01,206 is because he really is from another world. 630 00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:15,482 SHATNER: Bigfoot researcher Joe Fex visits a rural Appalachian farm 631 00:33:15,586 --> 00:33:17,448 owned by a woman who claims 632 00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:19,137 that she has encountered Bigfoot 633 00:33:19,241 --> 00:33:22,000 not once, not twice, but many times 634 00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:24,034 over a period of years. 635 00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:27,620 FEX: Janice Carter Coy claimed 636 00:33:27,689 --> 00:33:29,655 Bigfoot would come down the mountain, 637 00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:32,482 visit this barn that was about two miles away, 638 00:33:32,586 --> 00:33:36,206 and that they would come visit her grandfather's farm. 639 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:38,655 SHATNER: Eager to find out 640 00:33:38,724 --> 00:33:40,862 whether Janice's incredible story could be true, 641 00:33:40,965 --> 00:33:45,896 Joe decided to do a nighttime stakeout on her farm. 642 00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,862 That night, Joe and Janice were sitting around a firepit 643 00:33:50,931 --> 00:33:56,068 when Joe noticed something... strange. 644 00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:57,758 FEX: As we're talking, 645 00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:01,655 I see between these barn structures 646 00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:06,758 two very bright, very vivid lime green lights. 647 00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:10,103 And they're floating across this open area 648 00:34:10,206 --> 00:34:11,344 between these structures. 649 00:34:11,448 --> 00:34:12,758 I thought, 650 00:34:12,827 --> 00:34:15,000 "Wow, Tennessee has got some pretty extremely large 651 00:34:15,068 --> 00:34:16,586 lightning bugs out here." 652 00:34:16,689 --> 00:34:18,448 SHATNER: But the green lights 653 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:19,724 started to come closer to him 654 00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:23,310 and Joe realized that what he thought were fireflies... 655 00:34:23,413 --> 00:34:26,344 were actually glowing eyes. 656 00:34:26,413 --> 00:34:27,517 FEX: I could see 657 00:34:27,586 --> 00:34:31,379 the structure of a very large, 658 00:34:31,448 --> 00:34:34,137 long-haired, shaggy-- 659 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:36,172 what looked like a very muscular ape. 660 00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:38,379 And I looked over at Janice 661 00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:40,344 and she's just looking at me with this grin. 662 00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:41,758 And she says, 663 00:34:41,827 --> 00:34:45,206 "He wants to know if you're going to go back to Colorado 664 00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,413 and tell people you saw fireflies." 665 00:34:47,482 --> 00:34:49,206 How Janice would even know that 666 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:51,172 that thought even entered my head, 667 00:34:51,241 --> 00:34:53,344 brief as that thought was, 668 00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:55,034 I really have no idea. 669 00:34:55,103 --> 00:34:57,103 SHATNER Joe was astonished to see 670 00:34:57,172 --> 00:34:58,655 that Janice seemed to be able 671 00:34:58,758 --> 00:34:59,689 to mentally communicate with the creature... 672 00:34:59,758 --> 00:35:02,620 which was somehow reading his mind, too. 673 00:35:03,931 --> 00:35:06,724 Janice said, "He wants you to come back to the ditch line. 674 00:35:06,793 --> 00:35:09,413 He wants to see you. He wants you to see him." 675 00:35:09,517 --> 00:35:11,413 And I thought, "Oh, this is insane." 676 00:35:11,517 --> 00:35:14,241 But she gives me this big flashlight. 677 00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:16,241 So I started walking over there 678 00:35:16,344 --> 00:35:18,655 and back out behind the house, 679 00:35:18,758 --> 00:35:21,379 and I pointed the light forward. 680 00:35:21,482 --> 00:35:23,586 And here, in this open area, 681 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:25,310 stood this guy that had to be 682 00:35:25,379 --> 00:35:26,931 about eight or nine feet tall. 683 00:35:27,034 --> 00:35:29,068 I've never heard or seen anything like it 684 00:35:29,172 --> 00:35:30,551 in my entire life. 685 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,137 SHATNER: You'd think that after standing toe to toe with Bigfoot, 686 00:35:34,241 --> 00:35:38,586 Joe would remember everything about such an encounter. 687 00:35:38,689 --> 00:35:42,620 But as it turns out, Joe's memory is a little fuzzy. 688 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:46,896 I don't know what happened at the tail end of that. 689 00:35:46,965 --> 00:35:48,793 I just remember standing 690 00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:51,034 back at the camp, talking with Janice. 691 00:35:51,103 --> 00:35:52,379 I don't remember walking away. 692 00:35:52,448 --> 00:35:55,068 I don't remember... how did that end? 693 00:35:55,137 --> 00:35:58,344 Which is, to me-- even now, all these years later-- 694 00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:00,379 is really bizarre. 695 00:36:00,482 --> 00:36:02,827 SHATNER: To many observers, 696 00:36:02,931 --> 00:36:06,206 Joe's description of Bigfoot sounds less like a primate 697 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:09,551 and more like something... paranormal. 698 00:36:10,793 --> 00:36:12,241 BADER: Joe Fex's story actually 699 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:15,655 sounds a lot like a UFO abduction account to me. 700 00:36:15,758 --> 00:36:18,448 When you claim that there's some period of time 701 00:36:18,517 --> 00:36:20,310 that you simply cannot account for... 702 00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:23,137 In alien abduction lore, this is called "missing time," 703 00:36:23,206 --> 00:36:25,827 and it's believed that the aliens will erase your memory 704 00:36:25,896 --> 00:36:27,862 for a certain period of the encounter. 705 00:36:27,931 --> 00:36:30,655 There are other stories within the Bigfoot realm 706 00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:33,000 where people claim to have had encounters with UFOs 707 00:36:33,068 --> 00:36:34,758 or even had an abduction. 708 00:36:35,758 --> 00:36:40,068 SHATNER: Could Bigfoot actually be an extraterrestrial? 709 00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:44,206 Some Bigfoot researchers would argue the answer is yes, 710 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:46,689 and that the strongest evidence lies not in what happened 711 00:36:46,793 --> 00:36:49,517 during Joe's Bigfoot encounter 712 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,689 but what happened after. 713 00:36:53,827 --> 00:36:57,344 FEX: Two weeks later, at maybe 10:30, 11:00 in the morning. 714 00:36:57,413 --> 00:36:58,620 I go into the shower 715 00:36:58,724 --> 00:37:00,344 and I come back out of the shower, 716 00:37:00,413 --> 00:37:02,000 uh, dry off real quick, 717 00:37:02,068 --> 00:37:03,724 relax for a minute. 718 00:37:03,793 --> 00:37:05,689 I have a cup of coffee. 719 00:37:05,793 --> 00:37:07,862 I unconsciously reached back here 720 00:37:07,965 --> 00:37:10,448 and I could feel something. 721 00:37:10,517 --> 00:37:13,724 I realized there was a relatively deep hole 722 00:37:13,793 --> 00:37:15,620 that I could fit my pinky into. 723 00:37:15,724 --> 00:37:18,206 It didn't feel like a wound. 724 00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:19,241 It felt perfectly fine. 725 00:37:19,344 --> 00:37:22,034 It didn't hurt at all. There was no sensation. 726 00:37:22,965 --> 00:37:25,862 SHATNER: An inexplicable hole in your head 727 00:37:25,931 --> 00:37:29,068 isn't something that's easy to understand. 728 00:37:29,137 --> 00:37:33,034 But after considering every possibility, 729 00:37:33,103 --> 00:37:37,379 Joe recognized that what happened to him was bizarre 730 00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:39,931 but not exactly unheard of. 731 00:37:40,034 --> 00:37:43,000 All of these things are extremely familiar 732 00:37:43,068 --> 00:37:44,551 in the field of UFOs 733 00:37:44,655 --> 00:37:48,034 and the subfield of UFO abductions. 734 00:37:48,103 --> 00:37:51,724 They have similarities in their patterns of behavior, 735 00:37:51,793 --> 00:37:54,965 similarities in the environment and the circumstances, 736 00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:57,827 similarities in the side effects. 737 00:37:57,896 --> 00:38:00,379 I don't know if these things are related, 738 00:38:00,482 --> 00:38:02,172 but there is a correlation. 739 00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:06,862 SHATNER: Joe Fex may not have any definitive answers 740 00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:10,137 about Bigfoot or about his experience. 741 00:38:10,241 --> 00:38:12,172 But what he does have 742 00:38:12,275 --> 00:38:14,620 are some intriguing possibilities to consider, 743 00:38:14,724 --> 00:38:17,827 thanks to the information that he has exchanged 744 00:38:17,931 --> 00:38:20,482 with other Bigfoot researchers. 745 00:38:20,551 --> 00:38:24,448 And there are some who believe that this kind of cooperation 746 00:38:24,551 --> 00:38:28,827 will finally prove that Bigfoot is real. 747 00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:36,137 SHATNER: The Oregon Coast Mountain Range. 748 00:38:36,206 --> 00:38:40,586 Here, not far from the shore of the Pacific Ocean, 749 00:38:40,689 --> 00:38:44,586 lies a densely wooded area that, once a year, 750 00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:47,413 is the site of an invitation-only conference 751 00:38:47,482 --> 00:38:51,172 attended by international experts in their field. 752 00:38:51,275 --> 00:38:53,931 It's called... 753 00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:56,551 Beachfoot. 754 00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:58,620 NEISS: It was in 2003 755 00:38:58,724 --> 00:39:00,758 that I had this thought, 756 00:39:00,862 --> 00:39:02,896 "You know, what would happen if you could get 757 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,551 "all of these well-known researchers 758 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,931 locked in the same room at the same time?" 759 00:39:09,034 --> 00:39:12,655 The amount of brain trust there would be amazing. 760 00:39:12,758 --> 00:39:15,793 MIONCZYNSKI: The Beachfoot gatherings, 761 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:18,586 where scientists get to discuss openly 762 00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,034 their research and findings 763 00:39:21,137 --> 00:39:22,344 concerning Bigfoot... 764 00:39:22,448 --> 00:39:25,413 I think it's a very important step 765 00:39:25,482 --> 00:39:28,862 which will open up the subject 766 00:39:28,931 --> 00:39:31,620 to other scientists who are interested 767 00:39:31,724 --> 00:39:33,172 in studying this kind of phenomenon. 768 00:39:34,275 --> 00:39:36,344 MELDRUM: One of my most enjoyable activities 769 00:39:36,448 --> 00:39:37,827 at such an event is, sometimes 770 00:39:37,896 --> 00:39:41,448 I teach a workshop on "Tracking 101." 771 00:39:41,517 --> 00:39:45,689 Those are opportunities where non-academics, 772 00:39:45,758 --> 00:39:50,172 non-PhDs, can strive to emulate the scientific method 773 00:39:50,275 --> 00:39:52,482 in their own search 774 00:39:52,551 --> 00:39:55,482 for the evidence they presume to find. 775 00:39:55,551 --> 00:39:58,068 SHATNER: Gatherings like Beachfoot 776 00:39:58,172 --> 00:40:01,448 prove that the legend of Bigfoot is alive and well. 777 00:40:01,551 --> 00:40:03,862 But how is that possible 778 00:40:03,965 --> 00:40:07,275 when no conclusive evidence of Bigfoot has ever been found? 779 00:40:08,965 --> 00:40:13,620 What drives our interest in this enduring mystery? 780 00:40:13,689 --> 00:40:15,655 The reason I believe 781 00:40:15,724 --> 00:40:17,931 that the Sasquatch subject has such staying power 782 00:40:18,034 --> 00:40:21,551 is that there's so many witnesses out there. 783 00:40:21,655 --> 00:40:24,448 There's many parts of the country where, if you go 784 00:40:24,517 --> 00:40:26,241 and ask people if they've ever seen one, 785 00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:28,068 so often you'll hear, 786 00:40:28,172 --> 00:40:30,758 "No, I haven't, but I know somebody who has." 787 00:40:30,862 --> 00:40:32,758 So, there's many people out there 788 00:40:32,862 --> 00:40:35,551 who at least know someone they trust 789 00:40:35,655 --> 00:40:37,896 who has told them that they've seen these things. 790 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,827 And that has had the effect of changing 791 00:40:39,931 --> 00:40:42,000 people's opinion about the subject 792 00:40:42,103 --> 00:40:45,586 of what would otherwise be just total skepticism everywhere. 793 00:40:47,482 --> 00:40:49,931 BURDORFF: Bigfoot matters because 794 00:40:50,034 --> 00:40:53,758 it would be tangible proof of a solved mystery. 795 00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:56,275 Finding a real Bigfoot, 796 00:40:56,344 --> 00:40:57,655 a real creature, 797 00:40:57,758 --> 00:41:01,655 would be like discovering 798 00:41:01,758 --> 00:41:04,137 another piece of the world. 799 00:41:04,241 --> 00:41:08,448 And it's... it's us reaching for another piece 800 00:41:08,551 --> 00:41:10,586 of that unknown 801 00:41:10,689 --> 00:41:12,862 that's always just beyond our reach. 802 00:41:14,551 --> 00:41:18,068 So, now, what do you think? Huh? 803 00:41:18,137 --> 00:41:19,724 Is Bigfoot real, 804 00:41:19,827 --> 00:41:23,310 or is it all just part of an elaborate hoax? 805 00:41:23,413 --> 00:41:26,275 I guess that depends on what kind of a person you are. 806 00:41:26,379 --> 00:41:29,000 If you're the open-minded type 807 00:41:29,103 --> 00:41:31,724 who believes that the world is filled with wonder, 808 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:33,965 then you probably believe it's real. 809 00:41:34,034 --> 00:41:37,724 If you are the hard-nosed, cynical type, 810 00:41:37,793 --> 00:41:41,310 then you're convinced it's all nonsense. 811 00:41:42,724 --> 00:41:45,551 But then there is a third type. 812 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:48,827 The type who has actually seen Bigfoot 813 00:41:48,896 --> 00:41:50,827 in the fur-covered flesh. 814 00:41:50,896 --> 00:41:53,724 For you, Bigfoot is real, 815 00:41:53,827 --> 00:41:56,344 and your experience has convinced you 816 00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:58,620 that there is much about this mysterious creature 817 00:41:58,689 --> 00:42:02,931 that, for now, remains unexplained. 818 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,034 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 64642

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