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- [clicking tongue]
- with his ears.
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A deaf man who hears
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with his eyes.
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And a man who lives in a world
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completely devoid of pain.
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Sight, sound,
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taste, touch and smell.
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These five senses
are what we humans use
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to perceive the world around us.
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We tend to think
we understand them pretty well.
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After all,
we use them every day.
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But what about people
whose abilities
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are so acutely developed,
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they challenge everything
we know about our minds,
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our bodies,
and even reality itself.
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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♪
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♪ ♪
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Professional swordsman
Isao Machii
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is about to perform
an incredible demonstration.
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He will attempt
to cut a baseball,
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traveling at a hundred miles
per hour,
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perfectly in half,
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and from a distance
of only 30 feet away.
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It seems impossible.
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That is...
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until he does it.
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MICHAEL DENNIN:
When I first saw
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the video of the samurai cutting
the ball in half,
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I was absolutely amazed.
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What I like about video
these days
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is you can do
some simple physics.
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You know, he's maybe
sort of 30 feet away,
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the ball is roughly
a hundred miles an hour,
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and that gives you
a reaction time
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of essentially .2 seconds,
in this case.
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Typical reaction times for
a really elite baseball player
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trying to hit a fastball
tend to be around .4 seconds.
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Actually, this is
a more difficult task
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than something like baseball
pitching, because clearly,
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with baseball pitching,
you pick up information
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from the body shape
of the pitcher,
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which tells you loosely
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when the ball
is going to be released.
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Whereas in this instance,
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he seems to have a wall
in front of him.
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There's a lot of uncertainty
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in terms of when the ball
will begin its flight.
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And the fact that he can do
all these things
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in 200 milliseconds
is obviously quite amazing.
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SHATNER:
In this
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and in numerous
other demonstrations,
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Machii has shown
a remarkable ability
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to visually track
fast-moving objects
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with an acuity
that few can even dream of.
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But how?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
by examining the history
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of a man who can "see"
the world around him
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just as well as, or even better,
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than most people,
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despite the fact
that he doesn't have eyes.
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Two-year-old Daniel Kish,
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just one year after having both
eyes removed due to cancer,
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sneaks out of his crib
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to explore
his family's backyard.
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Far from being fearful
or afraid,
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Daniel is as confident
as he is curious,
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because, at just two years old,
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he has developed an ability
called echolocation,
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which allows him to see
by using his ears.
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For those of us
that study sensory systems,
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Daniel Kish is a rock star.
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[clicking tongue]
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He is clearly
the most studied human
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that actively echolocates.
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[indistinct chatter in distance]
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So he will emit sounds himself.
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These sounds will go
and bounce off objects
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and come back to his own ears,
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and these noises
provide him information on...
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distance to a target, what
that target might actually be,
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how dense it is,
how light it might be,
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its shape.
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I've been able to echolocate
for as long as I can remember,
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and for me
it was as natural as breathing.
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It was just my way of seeing.
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I didn't really know
it was echolocation per se.
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I just knew that I was aware
of my surroundings
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and that I could function
with that awareness.
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It was just sort of part of
the process of learning to see,
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which is very much
what sighted kids actually do
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as they begin
to calibrate their vision.
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After that,
it was just sort of normal.
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It was just a matter of course
to click and scan
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and find things
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and to not really be afraid
of what was out there.
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LOMBER:
For most of us,
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if you've ever had any
experience with echolocation,
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it's probably
when you've been told
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about how bats work, right?
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Bats emit a sound.
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The sound bounces off objects
and then comes back to them.
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So they can actually determine
how far away an object is,
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what its size and shape may be,
and so forth.
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And what Daniel's done is,
he's taken this idea
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and, uh, basically, uh,
turned it into something
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that humans can actually use.
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KISH:
Without ultrasonic hearing,
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without all of the advantages
that bats have evolved,
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humans are somehow able
to do this,
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and relatively easily.
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So... how? Why?
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I believe that we can do this
because we always have.
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We've been doing it since man
was prey and not predator,
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since we had to hide
in the dark.
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So we don't have to develop
these systems from scratch.
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All we have to do
is turn them on.
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[clicking tongue]
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SHATNER:
By making clicking sounds
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and then listening
to how those sounds reverberate
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off what's around him,
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Daniel is able to create
a virtual picture
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of his surroundings
with astonishing accuracy.
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[tongue clicking]
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ANIL SETH:
Neurobiologically,
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I think this speaks to something
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that we call
sensory substitution.
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That his visual cortex has been
appropriated, if you like,
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because it's not receiving
visual information.
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SHATNER:
Daniel's rare abilities
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made him the world's foremost
echolocator.
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But there are some
in the scientific community
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who question the extraordinary
nature of Daniel's ability.
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They argue that it's more likely
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that Daniel's simply making
lucky guesses
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when he claims to sense
his environment.
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But for Daniel,
there's no question.
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He sees a map in his mind.
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And what's more...
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- [clicking tongue]
- he can prove it.
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LOMBER:
Even though he's never seen,
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he's clearly using
his echolocation skills
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to construct some sort of map
of the visual world,
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although he doesn't have
any experience
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with the visual world the way
someone that's sighted does.
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[clicking tongue]
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KISH:
When I visit a new place,
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I basically just look around.
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And for me, that involves,
of course,
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using my sense of echolocation
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to scope out the environment.
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I start out
with what's most distinctive,
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what stands out,
uh, what's most unique,
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uh, what seems to define
the space.
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Essentially, it resolves into
what I call three-dimensional,
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fuzzy geometry.
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So all of these features
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sort of coalesce
into an actual image.
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Mapping it is part
of the process.
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Drawing is a way of sharing
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what my relationship
with the environment is.
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It's a way of...
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giving people a peek
into my head.
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So, you've got a house here.
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That's
the most relevant feature.
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There's a parked vehicle
of some kind there.
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And, then, trees.
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And then,
just as I got to about here,
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I was able immediately to tell,
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okay, this has got to be
some sort of a patio area,
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or maybe a grotto.
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And then, as I rounded the area,
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this tree line became
very obvious,
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that bounds one edge
of the garden.
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Daniel often says that,
you know,
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he can see these things
in his mind,
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and skeptics would say,
"Oh, that's impossible,
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"he must be hearing sounds
or just making calculations
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and guesses
that just happen to be true."
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But he's actually able
to prove it.
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He's actually able to draw
what he sees in his mind.
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And it's accurate.
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KISH:
I am a person who is naturally curious.
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I've been an explorer
since I got out of my crib
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and started wandering around.
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It didn't really occur to me
that, "Oh, but wait,
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I no longer have eyes."
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My interest is
in understanding the world,
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knowing about the world,
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and sharing whatever it is
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I think I've learned
about the world with others,
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to the extent that others
may benefit from that.
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It's not about seeing
or not seeing.
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It's about knowing.
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It's about understanding,
and it's about sharing.
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SHATNER:
Daniel's incredible ability
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to make his way
through the world
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is truly a sight to behold.
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But how did he develop
such an unusual
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and powerful sensory ability?
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Perhaps a clue can be found
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by examining a group of people
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who can literally hear
the world around them
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in color.
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RICHARD CYTOWIC:
We sense the world
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where color has a sound,
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and where sound has a taste.
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If that all seems bizarre,
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well, then imagine
what it must be like
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to live in that world
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every day of your life.
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♪
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Tofino, British Columbia,
August 1998.
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55-year-old Carol Steen
and her husband
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are hiking along the shores
of the Pacific.
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It's a day like any other.
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That is, until Carol takes
one wrong step.
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There were all these
black boulders, they were huge,
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and we were kind of
crawling around on them.
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My husband, being athletic,
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decided that he
would jump off this rock.
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I did the same thing.
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And I did something very bad
to my knee.
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I ruptured the ACL.
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SHATNER:
Tearing an ACL is a traumatic injury,
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even for professional athletes.
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And yet, for Carol,
the first thing she experienced
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wasn't a sensation of pain
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but one of color.
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[woman breathing heavily]
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STEEN:
I didn't feel pain.
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Instead, everything
that I saw was orange,
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and this was with my eyes open.
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The sand was a lighter shade
of orange.
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The ocean was another shade
of orange,
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and the blur of orange
was my husband,
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and he said,
"I'll get you up on some rocks,
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and I'll go get help."
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SHATNER:
It may seem odd,
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but this is just one example
of Carol's senses mixing
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that she has dealt with
for years.
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And it's an extraordinarily
rare condition
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that scientists refer
to as synesthesia.
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Synesthesia is often described
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as an unusual union
of the senses.
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Perceptions that we tend
to have separate--
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like sounds versus sights
versus touches versus smells--
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get sort of combined
in ways that are unusual.
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They've identified
at least 70 different forms
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of synesthesia.
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The common forms would be people
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who can hear color
and see sound.
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There are two ways that we can
perceive these joined senses.
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90% of us see it
in our mind's eye,
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and that's the same place
where you watch your daydreams.
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And ten percent of us
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see it actually projected
out there in front of us.
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[laughter]
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SHATNER:
Hearing color?
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- Seeing sound?
- [violins playing lively tune]
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What a marvelously
strange ability.
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And yet, it's something
that almost all of us do,
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although
to a much lesser extent.
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CYTOWIC:
We're all synesthetes.
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There are cross-connections
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going on in all of us, except
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we're not consciously aware
of them.
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And so, what makes
synesthetes different is
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that they simply have
more cross-connections
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than you or I do,
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and they are also
consciously aware
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that they have them.
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SHATNER:
In extreme cases of synesthesia,
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a person,
like Mississippi native
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Lidell Simpson, for example,
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can be born deaf and yet
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somehow still be able
to hear sounds.
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[pinging slowly
and rhythmically]
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[pinging]
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[clacking, whirring]
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[sound of glass shattering]
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Lidell ishearing the same way
that you and I do.
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It's just
that his auditory cortex
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is being stimulated
not through the eardrum
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but through other senses.
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[pinging and whooshing]
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It's like, well, suppose
a blind person said to you,
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"Oh, you poor thing.
Everywhere you look,
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"you're always seeing things.
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Doesn't it drive you crazy
having to see everything?"
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And of course not, because
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seeing is the normal texture
of our reality.
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Synesthetes simply have
a different texture of reality
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and different point of view.
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Lidell is a fantastic example
of brain plasticity.
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I mean, when you think about
an individual that's deaf
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and has this large region
of the brain
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that's no longer
processing sound,
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the fact
that these other modalities
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have basically set up camp
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in what would normally be
his auditory cortex
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is really phenomenal.
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In most instances
of synesthesia,
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there's some mixing
of the senses,
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but it doesn't necessarily
involve all the senses.
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For Lidell, he seems
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to conjure this rich,
very complex auditory scene
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out of all the things
that he encounters.
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When we think about people
with synesthesia,
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um, I think one of the reasons
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why people with normal sensory
systems find them so interesting
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is because they're clearly
having experiences
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that we'll never have.
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And trying to understand how
they're experiencing the world
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through somebody else's
eyes and ears
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is always really interesting
to think about.
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Synesthesia shows
that we sense the world
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in a much more integrated way
than we think we do.
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SHATNER:
Synesthesia reminds us
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of the brain's
extraordinary ability
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to process data
in a most unconventional way.
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Such is the case of one man
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whose sensory condition sounds
like a dream
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but can, at times,
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be a nightmare.
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JOHN WOOD:
Pain protects us from self-harm,R:38-year-old Steven Pete
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attends to his Sunday chores,
like yard work
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and cooking and tinkering
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with several projects
in his basement.
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All the same things that any
person might do on a weekend.
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But for Steven, he has to do
all this far more carefully
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than the average person,
because for him,
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doing household chores is more
than just a series of tasks.
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It's actually dangerous.
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PETE:
I was born
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with a rare genetic condition
called congenital analgesia.
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At the time,
that was the name given to it.
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Now it's called congenital
insensitivity to pain.
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So, uh, I can't feel any pain
at all.
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SHATNER:
A life free of pain?
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Sounds like something
many of us would pay dearly for.
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But for people like Steven,
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death or severe injury lurks
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around every corner.
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PETE:
My parents first noticed
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something was different
when I was teething
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and I chewed off half my tongue.
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That definitely alarmed them to,
uh, something serious going on,
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so they took me
to my pediatrician,
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who, uh, did a couple of tests
and determined
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that, more than likely,
I didn't feel pain.
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They ran needles
up and down my spine,
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uh, poked my feet
a couple places.
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I still didn't elicit a negative
response, a painful response.
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SHATNER:
Steven's gruesome injury provides a stark reminder
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that while most people probably
don't think of pain as a sense,
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it may actually be
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the important sense of all.
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WOOD:
Congenital analgesia is
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an inherited form
of insensitivity to pain.
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"Congenital" means
it runs in the family,
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and "analgesia" means
that you don't feel pain.
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You have no feeling of pain
whatsoever.
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It's some form of mutation
in a gene
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that's essential
for pain perception.
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When people first hear
that I don't feel pain,
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they think it is the greatest
thing in the whole world.
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They're like,
"Wow, you got a superpower."
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But my childhood was
spending good chunks of time
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in the hospital.
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I'd stay anywhere
between, like, four months
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to maybe a year and a half,
which isn't normal.
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WOOD:
It's an extremely problematic condition.
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Pain protects us from self-harm,
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and it's often the first sign
of disease.
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So people who are pain-free
often die very young.
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DENNIN:
It's actually rather amazing
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that he's made it
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through life as far as he has.
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I mean, the classic example
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we would always hear about
is learning
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not to touch things
that are hot.
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Pain alerts us when we're doing
something in the external world
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that doesn't make sense
and we should stop.
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PETE:
The one thing that I really have to keep an eye on
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is probably
whenever I'm engaged
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in, like, a physical activity
that's a little bit strenuous,
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like doing yard work.
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It's stuff like that,
where I could injure myself
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and not immediately realize it,
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that could cause serious
repercussions down the road.
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DENNIN:
When we think about senses,
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we always think
about the classic five senses:
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sight, touch,
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smell, taste and hearing.
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One thing that's
really interesting, though,
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is, we basically have
another sense,
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which is our pain,
our sense of pain.
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We often just reject that as,
well, that's just touch.
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But that negates
or doesn't think
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about the internal pains
we often feel,
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whether it's headaches
or stomachaches
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or sore muscles,
which really isn't quite touch.
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Pain is another sense.
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It's a sense
that we call nociception.
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It's conveyed
by specific kinds of nerves
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that get activated when,
for instance,
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we might touch a hot stove
or cut ourselves.
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WOOD:
What's interesting is,
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the brain can regulate pain
dramatically,
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but the basic drive
that causes pain
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is from the peripheral nerves.
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The nerves that send information
into the brain
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don't work in congenital
analgesia patients.
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This loss of pain is caused
by malfunctions
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in a very small number of genes
that are extremely rare.
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One of them is involved
in signaling
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in the peripheral nerves.
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It's called Nav1.7.
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It's a protein that's called
a sodium channel.
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It's like an electrical switch.
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And if that protein
doesn't function properly,
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then you can become pain-free.
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SHATNER:
Since Steven doesn't feel pain,
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it begs the question:
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what does he feel instead?
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PETE:
It's difficult for me to try to explain, but even though
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I don't feel physical pain,
what I can feel is
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heat, cold,
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touch,
just like every other person.
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What I do feel is probably
a byproduct of pain,
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is, like, these impulses,
almost like a nerve firing.
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Since 2012,
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I have had the opportunity
to be able to participate
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in a couple studies
with different universities.
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I spent a good portion
of my childhood in the hospital,
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and during those stays
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it was usually
with people who felt pain,
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and seeing people,
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especially that young,
who are going
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through such painful
experiences,
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um, that's really what
prompted me to sign up
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for a lot of these studies
when I was approached.
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And the overall goal
in a lot of these studies is
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to try to create
a nonnarcotic painkiller,
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because the opioid crisis
that our country is facing
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is one that other nations
are facing as well.
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So I've been asked quite a lot,
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with all these studies
I've been participating in,
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if I had the chance
to feel pain,
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if they could figure out
what activates
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or deactivates that switch,
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would I myself want
to feel pain?
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Um, and my answer is just no.
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Um, and that's only because
I've damaged my body so much
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throughout my entire life that,
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if I were to feel pain
right now,
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I'd just be in a constant state
of pain all the time.
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Not only do I have a bad knee,
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uh, but my back is
a little bit messed up,
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so my quality of life
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would just be low,
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and there's no way
I could live like that.
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Pain.
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As devastating as it can be,
it is clearly one of the senses
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we shouldn't be so eager
to live without.
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But if our sense of pain
can be diminished,
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might it be possible
for our other senses
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to be enhanced?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
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by examining the story
of a young man
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whose musical abilities
could be said to rival those
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of a Beethoven.
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ADAM OCKELFORD:
He was only five years old, and already
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is in the middle of a lesson,
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when a blind five-year-old boy
bursts through the door
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and changes
Adam's life forever.
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I first met Derek 35 years ago.
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And this totally blind
little boy
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was desperate
to get at the piano.
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And he just pushed us
out of the way and got playing.
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And I thought,
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"God, he's mad."
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You know, there were notes
flying everywhere.
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But he was playing
"Don't Cry for Me, Argentina,"
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but with lots of scales
and arpeggios and chords.
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And I suddenly thought, wow,
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you know, he's not mad,
he's a genius.
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When I first tried
to teach Derek,
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it turned out he could just play
any tune that I named.
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He was only five years old,
and already in his head
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he clearly had thousands
of songs already memorized.
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Derek was born very premature,
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and he had to have a lot
of oxygen to keep him alive.
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And we know
from modern neuroscience
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that doing that to a brain
causes it to grow
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in a slightly different way,
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to wire itself up
in a different way.
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The thing with teaching
autistic children like Derek
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is to form a relationship
with them.
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He's got to trust you.
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He's almost got to love you,
really, as a little boy.
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It's almost like
a parent-child relationship.
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[playing mid-tempo song]
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So he'll trust you to take him
into new territories
506
00:26:25,586 --> 00:26:29,517
that he doesn't necessarily feel
comfortable with.
507
00:26:29,551 --> 00:26:32,275
It's got to be
a human relationship.
508
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:34,620
♪
509
00:26:34,655 --> 00:26:36,862
TERRY WOGAN:
He's making it up as he went along. That's terrific.
510
00:26:36,896 --> 00:26:39,724
[applause]
511
00:26:39,758 --> 00:26:41,620
Brilliant!
512
00:26:41,689 --> 00:26:43,620
What a great gift
and what a, what a great talent,
513
00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:45,931
and it's something for you
to be very proud of.
514
00:26:45,965 --> 00:26:47,862
Derek Paravicini.
515
00:26:47,896 --> 00:26:50,103
[applause]
516
00:26:50,137 --> 00:26:52,172
SHATNER:
Over the next 35 years,
517
00:26:52,241 --> 00:26:56,172
Adam worked closely with Derek
to hone his natural abilities.
518
00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:57,793
The result...
519
00:27:03,068 --> 00:27:06,413
Derek is not only a world-
renowned professional pianist
520
00:27:06,448 --> 00:27:08,448
but someone
whom scientists believe
521
00:27:08,482 --> 00:27:10,620
may be among a rare group
of humans
522
00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:14,103
who possess the most finely
developed sense of hearing
523
00:27:14,172 --> 00:27:15,655
in the world.
524
00:27:15,689 --> 00:27:17,103
Ah!
525
00:27:17,137 --> 00:27:18,482
[music ends]
526
00:27:18,517 --> 00:27:20,793
- Well done, Derek.
- Yay. Thank you.
527
00:27:20,827 --> 00:27:23,137
OCKELFORD:
The whole of Derek's musical ability
528
00:27:23,172 --> 00:27:24,655
is really founded on one thing,
529
00:27:24,724 --> 00:27:26,758
which is that his hearing
is so acute,
530
00:27:26,793 --> 00:27:30,000
he can hear
tiny differences in notes
531
00:27:30,034 --> 00:27:31,482
that most people can't.
532
00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:33,344
And Derek can remember them
as well.
533
00:27:33,379 --> 00:27:35,379
Derek, shall we play
our copy game?
534
00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:37,827
We'll play our copy game,
please, Adam.
535
00:27:37,862 --> 00:27:40,965
Perfect pitch is really rare
amongst people as a whole.
536
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,689
Probably about one in 10,000
people have perfect pitch.
537
00:27:44,724 --> 00:27:47,517
But Derek has
kind of perfect pitch-plus.
538
00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:49,517
Play this note,
exactly as it is. Ready?
539
00:27:49,586 --> 00:27:51,379
- [strikes note]
- [strikes same note]
540
00:27:51,448 --> 00:27:53,655
So I can play one note,
say F-sharp,
541
00:27:53,689 --> 00:27:54,965
and Derek instantly hears it.
542
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,448
You know exactly which one
it is, don't you?
543
00:27:56,482 --> 00:27:59,379
- I do.
- What if I play two notes?
544
00:28:01,931 --> 00:28:03,275
But there's more to it
than that,
545
00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:04,724
'cause if he hears two notes,
546
00:28:04,758 --> 00:28:06,689
or three notes, even ten notes,
547
00:28:06,724 --> 00:28:08,620
- all at the same time...
- Four notes.
548
00:28:08,655 --> 00:28:10,896
instantly, Derek can hear it.
549
00:28:10,965 --> 00:28:12,103
Uh, seven notes.
550
00:28:13,689 --> 00:28:15,551
In fact,
we've done tests with him,
551
00:28:15,586 --> 00:28:17,965
and he can hear ten notes.
552
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,793
And he processes them
in less than half a second.
553
00:28:20,827 --> 00:28:22,241
Yeah.
554
00:28:22,275 --> 00:28:25,068
[Ockelford playing note clusters
and Derek imitating them]
555
00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:28,241
Every day I sit down and we
start to play, and I think,
556
00:28:28,275 --> 00:28:30,241
"How did you do that?"
And that, to me,
557
00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:32,724
is what keeps it interesting,
because
558
00:28:32,758 --> 00:28:37,655
musicians give me a window
into the brain that's unique.
559
00:28:37,689 --> 00:28:39,827
We have developed
tools and research
560
00:28:39,862 --> 00:28:43,379
to try to infer about what
happens in someone's brain.
561
00:28:43,413 --> 00:28:45,724
But I have personally
been involved
562
00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:49,068
in measuring Derek's ability,
563
00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:52,517
and I can very confidently say
564
00:28:52,551 --> 00:28:55,724
that I have exhausted
our technological means
565
00:28:55,758 --> 00:28:57,586
to actually try to develop
566
00:28:57,620 --> 00:29:01,103
a test that could measure
Derek's ability.
567
00:29:02,344 --> 00:29:04,379
Some people say
that Derek's abilities
568
00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,379
are almost superhuman,
but I would say
569
00:29:06,448 --> 00:29:08,482
that it's much more
sophisticated than that.
570
00:29:08,551 --> 00:29:11,103
[playing "When the Saints
Go Marching In"]
571
00:29:11,137 --> 00:29:14,068
Not only can he unpack tens,
572
00:29:14,137 --> 00:29:16,413
dozens, hundreds of pitches;
573
00:29:16,448 --> 00:29:18,793
he can make
musical sense of them,
574
00:29:18,862 --> 00:29:20,827
and that's something
that only Derek can do.
575
00:29:20,896 --> 00:29:23,896
I have not come across any piece
of technology that can do that.
576
00:29:23,965 --> 00:29:26,137
SHATNER:
While Derek has set a new bar
577
00:29:26,172 --> 00:29:27,586
for hearing aptitude,
578
00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:29,793
it appears
that his heightened sense
579
00:29:29,827 --> 00:29:32,103
is not without its downsides.
580
00:29:32,137 --> 00:29:36,068
Because, as superhuman
as Derek's hearing is,
581
00:29:36,137 --> 00:29:39,517
the rest of his mind seems
to have paid a price.
582
00:29:39,551 --> 00:29:41,448
- Yay!
- Well done, Derek!
583
00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:43,931
- You enjoy that?
- Yay. Enjoyed that, Adam!
584
00:29:43,965 --> 00:29:46,965
- Yay! Good session?
- Good session.
585
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,896
The thing with Derek's
abilities, they come at a cost.
586
00:29:49,931 --> 00:29:52,724
They come at a cost
of understanding language,
587
00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:57,724
of being able to sustain himself
independently,
588
00:29:57,758 --> 00:30:00,275
being able
to function independently.
589
00:30:00,310 --> 00:30:03,620
Derek is almost like
Alice in the looking glass.
590
00:30:03,655 --> 00:30:04,724
Everything is reversed.
591
00:30:04,793 --> 00:30:06,586
So really complicated things
592
00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:08,379
that most people
would find impossible,
593
00:30:08,413 --> 00:30:09,896
like a whole piece of music,
594
00:30:09,965 --> 00:30:12,068
go straight
into his long-term memory.
595
00:30:12,103 --> 00:30:14,586
Really easy things, like "what
did you have for lunch today,"
596
00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:16,517
just don't stick.
597
00:30:16,586 --> 00:30:18,931
And that's the extraordinary
enigma of Derek.
598
00:30:19,827 --> 00:30:22,103
SHATNER:
But what is it
599
00:30:22,137 --> 00:30:24,793
that gives Derek
his extraordinary ability?
600
00:30:24,827 --> 00:30:28,482
Is it simply his means of
compensating for his blindness?
601
00:30:28,551 --> 00:30:31,827
Or is there something more
to it than that?
602
00:30:31,862 --> 00:30:34,344
DENNIN:
When we think about these cases,
603
00:30:34,413 --> 00:30:37,172
an obvious place to go is,
oh, he's blind,
604
00:30:37,206 --> 00:30:40,379
so it's the lack of eyesight
that is contributing to this.
605
00:30:40,413 --> 00:30:42,724
What I don't know, and I think
people are still looking at is,
606
00:30:42,793 --> 00:30:44,689
is that something that happens
607
00:30:44,758 --> 00:30:46,862
sort of early on
in the formation of the brain
608
00:30:46,931 --> 00:30:49,482
that's purely
a function of, oh,
609
00:30:49,517 --> 00:30:51,620
the eyesight isn't
really being connected?
610
00:30:51,655 --> 00:30:54,758
Or is it a process
that happens more over time?
611
00:30:54,793 --> 00:30:56,758
Understanding what
that connection is, I think,
612
00:30:56,827 --> 00:30:58,965
is a very deep
and interesting question.
613
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,965
LOMBER:
I think, when you consider individuals that have
614
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,689
a severely impaired sense,
like blindness or deafness,
615
00:31:05,724 --> 00:31:07,896
they're gonna have
a very different reality
616
00:31:07,931 --> 00:31:12,000
than people that have
more or less intact senses.
617
00:31:12,034 --> 00:31:14,137
But don't think of it in terms
just of the loss,
618
00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:16,413
but the fact that they're
gonna have amplifications
619
00:31:16,482 --> 00:31:18,586
in their remaining
intact senses.
620
00:31:18,655 --> 00:31:21,172
OCKELFORD:
The great thing about Derek
621
00:31:21,206 --> 00:31:23,448
is Derek the person.
622
00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:26,517
He's so much more
than a clever musician.
623
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,827
Derek is above all
a people person.
624
00:31:28,896 --> 00:31:31,862
So he makes his music
for people.
625
00:31:31,896 --> 00:31:33,862
He'll remember people he meets
626
00:31:33,896 --> 00:31:35,827
in terms
of the pieces they like.
627
00:31:35,862 --> 00:31:37,482
[playing lively tune]
628
00:31:37,517 --> 00:31:39,551
He may not remember the name,
629
00:31:39,586 --> 00:31:42,206
but he'll remember
a particular piece of music
630
00:31:42,241 --> 00:31:46,586
they asked for,
even ten or 20 years later.
631
00:31:49,068 --> 00:31:50,862
[song ends]
632
00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:54,034
[applause, cheering, whooping]
633
00:31:56,034 --> 00:31:59,862
Derek's gifts,
while remarkable, remind us
634
00:31:59,896 --> 00:32:03,689
that enhanced abilities
of all kinds
635
00:32:03,758 --> 00:32:05,827
often come at a cost.
636
00:32:05,896 --> 00:32:09,068
But is that always the case,
or is it possible
637
00:32:09,103 --> 00:32:12,655
for us to unlock an unlimited
number of sensory abilities
638
00:32:12,689 --> 00:32:14,758
that we have within us?
639
00:32:14,793 --> 00:32:17,758
Even those
we don't even know we have?
640
00:32:26,241 --> 00:32:29,655
CAROLINE CORY:
We came across a groupSHATNER: Scientist Cornelia Fermuller
641
00:32:29,689 --> 00:32:32,655
publishes a study
about how optical illusions
642
00:32:32,689 --> 00:32:36,931
expose a fundamental flaw
in our brain.
643
00:32:36,965 --> 00:32:40,517
Even when we know
our senses are being tricked,
644
00:32:40,586 --> 00:32:43,344
like when we look
at an optical illusion,
645
00:32:43,379 --> 00:32:46,965
we are powerless
to do anything about it.
646
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,068
And the truth is, our eyes
are deceiving us all the time.
647
00:32:53,896 --> 00:32:55,965
SETH:
For me it's not so surprising
648
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,275
that it's easy to fool our
brains with optical illusions.
649
00:33:00,344 --> 00:33:03,965
Our brains are not designed
to reflect reality as it is.
650
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,724
They're designed
to make the best use
651
00:33:06,758 --> 00:33:08,896
of these ambiguous
sensory signals.
652
00:33:08,965 --> 00:33:11,931
HOFFMAN:
We all have an experiential reality.
653
00:33:11,965 --> 00:33:13,896
We'll see
a three-dimensional world
654
00:33:13,931 --> 00:33:15,689
with objects
and colors and shapes,
655
00:33:15,724 --> 00:33:17,724
we'll hear sounds,
656
00:33:17,758 --> 00:33:19,379
we'll taste things,
657
00:33:19,448 --> 00:33:20,931
we'll feel things,
658
00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:23,965
and that's our
experiential reality.
659
00:33:24,034 --> 00:33:26,896
Now, most of us tend to think
660
00:33:26,931 --> 00:33:31,344
that our experiential reality is
giving us a pretty clean map
661
00:33:31,379 --> 00:33:34,034
of what
the objective reality is.
662
00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:37,896
But the probability that we have
been shaped by evolution
663
00:33:37,931 --> 00:33:42,103
to have our experiential reality
match any aspect
664
00:33:42,137 --> 00:33:46,241
of the objective reality
is precisely zero.
665
00:33:46,275 --> 00:33:48,034
Instead, what evolution has done
666
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:51,517
is given us a bunch of hacks
so that you can survive.
667
00:33:51,551 --> 00:33:52,896
We're not tuned to the truth.
668
00:33:52,931 --> 00:33:54,896
We have simple tricks and hacks.
669
00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:06,000
Put your blindfolds on
for me, please.
670
00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:08,551
SHATNER: A group of scientists
have gathered to perform
671
00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:11,379
an intriguing experiment
designed to find out
672
00:34:11,413 --> 00:34:14,379
whether children have
sensory abilities beyond those
673
00:34:14,413 --> 00:34:16,206
we already know.
674
00:34:16,275 --> 00:34:18,241
These particular children
675
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:22,827
seem to be able to do something
that is unimaginable.
676
00:34:22,862 --> 00:34:27,448
Somehow, they can both read
and identify objects
677
00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:29,172
while wearing a blindfold.
678
00:34:29,206 --> 00:34:30,689
Teacup.
679
00:34:32,241 --> 00:34:34,862
CORY: We came across
a group of children
680
00:34:34,931 --> 00:34:38,241
who were able to read
completely blindfolded.
681
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:40,241
Of course, in the beginning,
682
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:42,827
we said, "This is a trick.
It's impossible."
683
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:48,793
The visual system works
with light.
684
00:34:50,068 --> 00:34:53,103
But when we were working
with these children, you could
685
00:34:53,137 --> 00:34:56,000
literally give them a book that
they have never read before,
686
00:34:56,034 --> 00:34:58,965
and they would put
the blindfolds on,
687
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,241
and eventually they could see.
688
00:35:01,275 --> 00:35:04,896
"Our day out is ruined.
689
00:35:04,931 --> 00:35:08,793
"No mouse would put a paw out
690
00:35:08,862 --> 00:35:11,103
in what-- that weather."
691
00:35:11,137 --> 00:35:13,241
CORY:
Somebody from the outside
692
00:35:13,275 --> 00:35:15,103
looking in would say,
693
00:35:15,137 --> 00:35:17,827
"What's going on here?
This is impossible."
694
00:35:17,896 --> 00:35:19,965
But if that's possible, then
695
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,724
what other abilities
might we have
696
00:35:21,758 --> 00:35:24,758
that we're not even
aware of yet?
697
00:35:24,793 --> 00:35:27,482
Tell me what
I'm holding in my hand.
698
00:35:27,517 --> 00:35:29,344
A wooden spoon.
699
00:35:32,379 --> 00:35:35,172
So, we wanted
to investigate this phenomenon.
700
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,758
In 2018,
701
00:35:37,793 --> 00:35:41,103
we started to work
with this Russian group.
702
00:35:41,137 --> 00:35:44,275
We worked
with a couple of scientists,
703
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:48,482
and they introduced a device
inside the mask,
704
00:35:48,517 --> 00:35:54,068
uh, that measured the number of
light photons inside the mask.
705
00:35:54,103 --> 00:35:57,551
Once the device showed
that there was no light
706
00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:59,517
whatsoever inside the mask,
707
00:35:59,551 --> 00:36:01,827
then we started the test.
708
00:36:01,862 --> 00:36:05,827
We also measured the brain waves
of the subject.
709
00:36:05,862 --> 00:36:09,275
And we could see
that the person could see.
710
00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:14,137
They could read
as if they were seeing normally
711
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,275
without any mask
or anything whatsoever.
712
00:36:16,344 --> 00:36:17,793
Forty-two.
713
00:36:17,827 --> 00:36:20,137
This is extraordinary.
714
00:36:20,172 --> 00:36:22,689
How do you even begin
to explain that?
715
00:36:22,724 --> 00:36:25,206
SHATNER:
How indeed?
716
00:36:25,241 --> 00:36:28,344
Because these subjects seemingly
were able to sense things
717
00:36:28,379 --> 00:36:30,724
without using any
of their five senses.
718
00:36:30,793 --> 00:36:33,103
So, then what explains it?
719
00:36:33,172 --> 00:36:35,965
Of course, everyone recognizes
the five senses
720
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,482
that we all have.
721
00:36:38,862 --> 00:36:40,413
However, it seems
722
00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:45,793
that we are also able
to have another sense,
723
00:36:45,862 --> 00:36:49,206
another way
to receive information,
724
00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:52,862
retrieve data
from the physical world
725
00:36:52,896 --> 00:36:56,931
beyond the five senses
that we all know of.
726
00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:58,758
If you take a look
at the animal kingdom,
727
00:36:58,793 --> 00:37:01,413
they have six,
seven senses as well.
728
00:37:01,448 --> 00:37:03,896
Bees, for example,
729
00:37:03,931 --> 00:37:06,931
can see ultraviolet radiation.
730
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,896
Birds are famous for being able
to lock onto magnetism.
731
00:37:11,931 --> 00:37:16,137
So if animals have other senses,
then why can't we?
732
00:37:26,172 --> 00:37:29,103
It all sounds a bit
too ooga-booga, doesn't it?
733
00:37:29,137 --> 00:37:31,862
Well, not according to a study
published by scientists
734
00:37:31,931 --> 00:37:34,413
from Caltech in 2019,
735
00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:39,068
which suggests that humans can
not only detect energy fields;
736
00:37:39,103 --> 00:37:43,068
they can also sense
the magnetic field of the Earth.
737
00:37:44,379 --> 00:37:46,965
TRAVIS TAYLOR: The human brain
has a lot of phenomena
738
00:37:47,034 --> 00:37:49,793
going on inside it that uses
electromagnetic charges
739
00:37:49,827 --> 00:37:51,379
and electric fields.
740
00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:54,862
And if you change the magnetic
field around your brain,
741
00:37:54,931 --> 00:37:59,034
it will impact what's going on
inside your brain.
742
00:37:59,103 --> 00:38:04,068
So, small magnetic fields are
most certainly detectable.
743
00:38:04,103 --> 00:38:06,896
We just may not realize
we're detecting them.
744
00:38:06,931 --> 00:38:08,931
WOOD:
It wouldn't surprise me in any way
745
00:38:08,965 --> 00:38:11,413
if there aren't aspects
of, uh, brain function
746
00:38:11,448 --> 00:38:14,896
that we are completely
unaware of at the moment,
747
00:38:14,931 --> 00:38:16,862
that we'll become aware of later
748
00:38:16,896 --> 00:38:20,068
when we understand more about
how the brain actually works.
749
00:38:20,103 --> 00:38:22,965
SHATNER:
Since it's already been proven
750
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,344
that humans have more
than five senses,
751
00:38:25,379 --> 00:38:28,172
could there really be something
to the notion
752
00:38:28,206 --> 00:38:31,551
that we have the potential
to sense the world around us
753
00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:36,448
in what some would consider
bizarre or even mystical ways?
754
00:38:36,517 --> 00:38:40,034
According to some researchers,
the answer is yes.
755
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:41,965
And as evidence they point
756
00:38:42,034 --> 00:38:46,344
to an incredible phenomenon
known as paroptic vision.
757
00:38:46,379 --> 00:38:49,448
LUTYENS: Paroptic vision
was first proposed
758
00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:52,517
by a surrealist writer
called Rene Daumal,
759
00:38:52,551 --> 00:38:54,620
who, as a teenager, practiced
760
00:38:54,689 --> 00:38:56,620
seeing color
through his fingertips.
761
00:38:56,689 --> 00:38:59,827
So he'd put different colored
handkerchiefs inside a box
762
00:38:59,896 --> 00:39:01,896
and then he'd run tests to see
763
00:39:01,931 --> 00:39:04,482
if he could tell
what color the handkerchief was.
764
00:39:04,517 --> 00:39:08,172
That sounds quite fringe,
but I've done some experiments.
765
00:39:08,206 --> 00:39:10,310
It's a rare ability,
but I did find one person
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00:39:10,379 --> 00:39:12,862
who was able
to detect the colors
767
00:39:12,931 --> 00:39:14,448
through the fingertips.
768
00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:16,482
I can't explain it,
but she could detect color
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00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:20,068
with 80% reliability
through her fingertips.
770
00:39:20,103 --> 00:39:22,206
It's been discovered
771
00:39:22,241 --> 00:39:24,931
that the skin has opsins
embedded in them.
772
00:39:24,965 --> 00:39:27,896
And opsins help the body
calibrate
773
00:39:27,931 --> 00:39:30,655
to circadian rhythms,
to 24-hour rhythms.
774
00:39:30,724 --> 00:39:34,275
So it's not too much of
a stretch to think how opsins
775
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:37,034
could not just detect light but
they could also detect color.
776
00:39:37,103 --> 00:39:39,103
WOOD:
Many people believe
777
00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:41,275
that there are mysterious ways
of sensing things
778
00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:43,620
that don't involve
the traditional senses.
779
00:39:43,655 --> 00:39:47,310
And I believe that there's a
perfectly reasonable expectation
780
00:39:47,379 --> 00:39:50,068
that that may perhaps be true.
781
00:39:50,103 --> 00:39:52,689
We don't really understand
how the brain works at all.
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00:39:53,896 --> 00:39:56,103
SHATNER:
As incredible as it is
783
00:39:56,172 --> 00:40:00,482
to discover new senses,
it's also a little unsettling.
784
00:40:00,551 --> 00:40:04,068
Because if our brain
is just using our senses
785
00:40:04,103 --> 00:40:07,551
to constantly try
and guess what reality is,
786
00:40:07,586 --> 00:40:12,482
then how are we to know when it
guesses wrong instead of right?
787
00:40:12,551 --> 00:40:14,482
SETH:
I like to think of perception
788
00:40:14,517 --> 00:40:17,172
as a kind of controlled
hallucination, because
789
00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:19,689
there's no light in the skull,
there's no sound in the skull.
790
00:40:19,724 --> 00:40:21,241
All you've got to go on
as a brain
791
00:40:21,310 --> 00:40:25,103
are these noisy
and ambiguous sensory signals.
792
00:40:25,137 --> 00:40:26,517
Signals don't come with labels--
793
00:40:26,551 --> 00:40:29,482
"I'm from a coffee cup"
or "I'm from a cat."
794
00:40:29,517 --> 00:40:32,655
And this is why, for instance,
if you look up at the sky,
795
00:40:32,689 --> 00:40:37,103
and there's some fluffy clouds,
sometimes you might see faces.
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00:40:37,137 --> 00:40:42,448
CYTOWIC:
Reality is not quite as real as people think.
797
00:40:42,517 --> 00:40:44,931
We are often told
that something looks red
798
00:40:44,965 --> 00:40:47,517
because it reflects
more red wavelengths.
799
00:40:47,586 --> 00:40:49,724
But there's no such thing
as red wavelengths.
800
00:40:49,758 --> 00:40:53,000
Color is not a property
of objects.
801
00:40:53,034 --> 00:40:55,655
It's a property of brains.
802
00:40:55,689 --> 00:41:00,241
It's simply the wonder that our
brain is creating all of this
803
00:41:00,275 --> 00:41:03,586
and that we can agree
on so much.
804
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:06,689
Perception is
about representing the world
805
00:41:06,724 --> 00:41:08,310
and the body and the self
806
00:41:08,379 --> 00:41:10,448
in the way that's most useful
for the organism.
807
00:41:10,517 --> 00:41:14,965
So if you see a color,
that's not right or wrong.
808
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,310
Color is where
the brain meets the universe
809
00:41:17,344 --> 00:41:20,275
in a way that's useful for us.
810
00:41:20,344 --> 00:41:22,931
I think we can all agree
reality exists.
811
00:41:22,965 --> 00:41:25,000
We think,
therefore something exists.
812
00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:26,689
But what it is
813
00:41:26,724 --> 00:41:30,482
and how we will know what it is,
is fun to explore.
814
00:41:32,482 --> 00:41:36,448
Whether it's seeing
the world without eyes,
815
00:41:36,482 --> 00:41:40,413
hearing things
no other humans can,
816
00:41:40,448 --> 00:41:43,551
or unconsciously using senses
we didn't even know we had,
817
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,172
humans possess
incredible sensory abilities
818
00:41:47,206 --> 00:41:49,689
that make us wonder--
819
00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:52,931
what else might be out there
that we have yet to detect?
820
00:41:52,965 --> 00:41:55,103
It's a tantalizing question.
821
00:41:55,137 --> 00:42:00,448
One that will, for now,
remain unexplained.
822
00:42:00,482 --> 00:42:02,344
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