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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,275 --> 00:00:07,103 WILLIAM SHATNER: Powerful prophets 2 00:00:07,206 --> 00:00:08,586 that can predict the fall of empires. 3 00:00:08,689 --> 00:00:11,000 [bomb whistling, explosion] 4 00:00:11,103 --> 00:00:15,586 Disturbing dreams... that envision deadly crimes. 5 00:00:15,689 --> 00:00:18,275 And nightmare visions from which victims... 6 00:00:18,379 --> 00:00:21,517 never wake up. 7 00:00:23,482 --> 00:00:26,413 Can people really see the future? 8 00:00:26,517 --> 00:00:30,034 Receive messages from across time and space? 9 00:00:30,137 --> 00:00:34,586 For centuries, seers and prophets have come forward 10 00:00:34,689 --> 00:00:38,275 offering dramatic visions of mankind's destiny. 11 00:00:38,379 --> 00:00:40,379 But what happens 12 00:00:40,482 --> 00:00:44,137 when the predictions turn... deadly? 13 00:00:44,241 --> 00:00:47,931 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 14 00:00:48,034 --> 00:00:49,965 โ™ช 15 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:10,275 Craig Hamilton-Parker, an English psychic and medium, 16 00:01:10,379 --> 00:01:12,793 posts a series of prophecies on his website-- 17 00:01:12,896 --> 00:01:17,551 some of them quite ominous and even oddly disturbing. 18 00:01:17,655 --> 00:01:19,862 I've been a psychic medium all my life, 19 00:01:19,965 --> 00:01:22,758 in touch with the spirit world, and sometimes make predictions. 20 00:01:22,862 --> 00:01:28,655 And in 2015, I decided to put some predictions on my website. 21 00:01:28,758 --> 00:01:30,655 I said that there'd be a massive earthquake in Japan. 22 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:34,896 I wrote that Brexit would happen, and at the time, 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,068 everybody was saying, "It's never gonna happen. 24 00:01:37,172 --> 00:01:39,034 Everybody's gonna vote to remain. There's no chance." 25 00:01:39,137 --> 00:01:42,586 I saw terrorist attacks in Nice in my vision, 26 00:01:42,689 --> 00:01:45,275 and I put those in my predictions. 27 00:01:45,379 --> 00:01:47,482 Sometimes I don't like telling the future. 28 00:01:47,586 --> 00:01:49,482 SHATNER: Within a year, 29 00:01:49,586 --> 00:01:52,862 the predictions Craig made came surprisingly, 30 00:01:52,965 --> 00:01:56,862 and in some cases frighteningly, true. 31 00:01:56,965 --> 00:02:00,103 On April 16, 2016, 32 00:02:00,206 --> 00:02:04,206 Kumamoto, Japan was shaken by a 7.0 magnitude earthquake. 33 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:09,068 50 people were killed, and more than 3,000 people injured. 34 00:02:09,172 --> 00:02:11,413 And then, on June 23, 35 00:02:11,517 --> 00:02:13,620 over half of Great Britain voted to approve Brexit 36 00:02:13,724 --> 00:02:16,068 and leave the European Union. 37 00:02:16,172 --> 00:02:18,551 Finally, on July 14, 38 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:21,413 a 19-ton truck driven by a terrorist plowed 39 00:02:21,517 --> 00:02:23,620 through a crowded market in Nice, France, 40 00:02:23,724 --> 00:02:27,344 killing 86 people and injuring over 400. 41 00:02:27,448 --> 00:02:30,724 Of course, not all of Craig's prophecies ended up happening. 42 00:02:30,827 --> 00:02:32,586 For instance, he'd predicted 43 00:02:32,689 --> 00:02:35,586 that a gas attack would take place in a European city, 44 00:02:35,689 --> 00:02:38,689 but there was no such attack in Europe that year. 45 00:02:38,793 --> 00:02:41,896 But the fact that he got three out of four predictions right 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,827 led many to believe that his uncanny ability 47 00:02:44,931 --> 00:02:49,586 to see the future couldn't have been a mere fluke. 48 00:02:49,689 --> 00:02:52,517 The natural question that people have is, 49 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:54,620 "Where does a prediction come from? 50 00:02:54,724 --> 00:02:57,758 Where is the so-called psychic getting this information from?" 51 00:02:57,862 --> 00:03:00,413 The first explanation we go to is 52 00:03:00,517 --> 00:03:01,758 that it's some sort of psychosis, 53 00:03:01,862 --> 00:03:03,310 but that doesn't really hold up 54 00:03:03,413 --> 00:03:05,137 because you can't turn crazy on and off. 55 00:03:05,241 --> 00:03:07,793 And the fact is, if you meet most of these folk, 56 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:09,689 and I've met plenty of them, 57 00:03:09,793 --> 00:03:12,586 they're perfectly ordinary, everyday functioning people. 58 00:03:12,689 --> 00:03:14,551 SHATNER: According to Craig, 59 00:03:14,655 --> 00:03:16,655 his ability to see events before they happen 60 00:03:16,758 --> 00:03:19,413 is one he was born with. 61 00:03:19,517 --> 00:03:22,000 Since childhood, he surprised his family 62 00:03:22,103 --> 00:03:25,068 with what he called "flashes of the future," 63 00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:30,965 glimpses of things that hadn't yet come to pass, but often did. 64 00:03:31,068 --> 00:03:33,034 And in his early twenties, he decided 65 00:03:33,137 --> 00:03:35,896 to make a journey to India, where he studied the writings 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 of ancient oracles, and honed his raw talent. 67 00:03:40,103 --> 00:03:42,137 HAMILTON-PARKER: So I became very interested 68 00:03:42,241 --> 00:03:44,827 in this idea that there's an ancient tradition 69 00:03:44,931 --> 00:03:47,172 that goes back right through time 70 00:03:47,275 --> 00:03:51,000 over many, many centuries, maybe back tens of thousands of years. 71 00:03:51,103 --> 00:03:54,310 For me, seeing the future is a bit like 72 00:03:54,413 --> 00:03:56,689 a dream experience in many respects. 73 00:03:56,793 --> 00:04:01,482 I use an old technique from India called "Trataka," 74 00:04:01,586 --> 00:04:04,724 which, I look into a candle, basically. 75 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:07,068 You go into a sort of a state of gazing, 76 00:04:07,172 --> 00:04:09,068 and then move the image of that candle 77 00:04:09,172 --> 00:04:10,862 into the middle of what we call "the third eye." 78 00:04:10,965 --> 00:04:13,034 And you'll see it as an afterimage 79 00:04:13,137 --> 00:04:14,793 on the back of the eye, 80 00:04:14,896 --> 00:04:16,896 where all these visions will appear. 81 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,241 I see things-- things I know, things I don't know. 82 00:04:21,344 --> 00:04:24,482 It's like the universe knows better than I do. 83 00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:26,413 It gave me this information, 84 00:04:26,517 --> 00:04:28,620 and it's kind of my duty to put it out there. 85 00:04:28,724 --> 00:04:30,655 SHATNER: In the fall of 2016, 86 00:04:30,758 --> 00:04:32,689 another of Craig's prophecies-- 87 00:04:32,793 --> 00:04:35,482 this time about the U.S. presidential election-- 88 00:04:35,586 --> 00:04:37,482 came to pass. 89 00:04:37,586 --> 00:04:38,896 HAMILTON-PARKER: I kept getting glimpses of 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,827 this strange character, you know. 91 00:04:40,931 --> 00:04:43,172 And I thought, "Who on Earth is this?" 92 00:04:43,275 --> 00:04:45,379 And then suddenly, 93 00:04:45,482 --> 00:04:47,827 Trump announces himself in the primaries, 94 00:04:47,931 --> 00:04:50,206 and then I knew that's what I'd been seeing. 95 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:51,758 That was this strange figure 96 00:04:51,862 --> 00:04:54,482 that kept coming into my meditations 97 00:04:54,586 --> 00:04:57,103 and interrupting, uh, my thoughts. 98 00:04:57,206 --> 00:05:00,724 Clearly, for me, Trump was gonna be president, 99 00:05:00,827 --> 00:05:03,000 even though everybody at this time was saying, 100 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:05,482 "He don't stand a chance of ever being president." 101 00:05:05,586 --> 00:05:08,379 But the unconscious seemed to know better. 102 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:12,482 SHATNER: But how is Craig actually getting these messages 103 00:05:12,586 --> 00:05:14,034 about the future? 104 00:05:14,137 --> 00:05:17,931 Are they really coming from his unconscious mind? 105 00:05:18,034 --> 00:05:20,793 Precognition is, um, the scientific term 106 00:05:20,896 --> 00:05:22,724 for things like premonitions. 107 00:05:22,827 --> 00:05:24,896 And it's getting accurate information 108 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 about a future event that you didn't cause. 109 00:05:28,103 --> 00:05:30,655 MICHIO KAKU: We think that the brain, 110 00:05:30,758 --> 00:05:33,620 no matter how complicated and non-linear it is, 111 00:05:33,724 --> 00:05:35,758 is still something that could be reduced down 112 00:05:35,862 --> 00:05:38,413 to the laws of physics. 113 00:05:38,517 --> 00:05:41,862 Now that doesn't mean that the brain can't imagine the future. 114 00:05:41,965 --> 00:05:47,241 We are genetically hardwired to have premonitions. 115 00:05:47,344 --> 00:05:48,724 We can't stop it. 116 00:05:48,827 --> 00:05:50,689 It's part of our makeup. 117 00:05:50,793 --> 00:05:53,379 ANNE CLEARY: The feeling of premonition 118 00:05:53,482 --> 00:05:55,103 might be an example 119 00:05:55,206 --> 00:05:58,379 of how our memories orient us toward the future. 120 00:05:58,482 --> 00:06:00,000 [tires squealing, thud] 121 00:06:00,103 --> 00:06:03,689 So, current thinking among memory researchers is 122 00:06:03,793 --> 00:06:06,724 that our memories are not useful to us so much 123 00:06:06,827 --> 00:06:10,551 for their ability to enable us to recollect the past 124 00:06:10,655 --> 00:06:13,172 as they are useful to us for enabling us 125 00:06:13,275 --> 00:06:15,793 to navigate and predict the future. 126 00:06:15,896 --> 00:06:19,620 And from that perspective, the idea that dรฉjร  vu, 127 00:06:19,724 --> 00:06:22,000 which might result from a memory process, 128 00:06:22,103 --> 00:06:26,000 might be accompanied by feelings of premonition, fits that. 129 00:06:27,827 --> 00:06:29,827 HOROWITZ: If somebody has 130 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,896 an authentic intuitive or insightful gift-- 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,344 and I do think such things exist-- 132 00:06:36,448 --> 00:06:38,551 I think it's a kind of ESP 133 00:06:38,655 --> 00:06:42,827 in which certain individuals are able to glean information 134 00:06:42,931 --> 00:06:44,689 in anomalous ways, 135 00:06:44,793 --> 00:06:47,689 in ways that go beyond our ordinary five senses. 136 00:06:47,793 --> 00:06:51,310 NICK POPE: The Internet, TV talk shows, 137 00:06:51,413 --> 00:06:53,172 and the best-seller lists 138 00:06:53,275 --> 00:06:55,758 are full of prophets and prognosticators 139 00:06:55,862 --> 00:06:59,379 claiming to be able to divine the future. 140 00:06:59,482 --> 00:07:01,620 And in a number of these cases, 141 00:07:01,724 --> 00:07:03,793 they really seem to be able to do it. 142 00:07:03,896 --> 00:07:06,275 SHATNER: If it's true 143 00:07:06,379 --> 00:07:09,448 that there are such things as real psychics, 144 00:07:09,551 --> 00:07:13,586 then where exactly does their incredible gift come from, 145 00:07:13,689 --> 00:07:16,413 and how can we better understand it? 146 00:07:16,517 --> 00:07:18,517 According to some researchers, 147 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:21,793 the explanation doesn't lie in the distant future, 148 00:07:21,896 --> 00:07:25,827 but rather, the ancient past. 149 00:07:25,931 --> 00:07:28,586 RABBI ARIEL BAR TZADOK: The Bible makes it very clear 150 00:07:28,689 --> 00:07:30,758 that biblical prophets 151 00:07:30,862 --> 00:07:34,000 were not arbitrary individuals, men or women, 152 00:07:34,103 --> 00:07:37,344 who were just as if minding their own business, 153 00:07:37,448 --> 00:07:39,413 and then God chose them. 154 00:07:39,517 --> 00:07:41,068 It wasn't like that at all. 155 00:07:41,172 --> 00:07:43,896 It was an internal experience 156 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 that the Bible calls a dream or a vision. 157 00:07:47,103 --> 00:07:52,689 If you do not learn how to understand dreams, 158 00:07:52,793 --> 00:07:55,241 you will never understand their message. 159 00:07:55,344 --> 00:07:59,448 It is very clearly said in the Bible 160 00:07:59,551 --> 00:08:02,862 that prophets had to go to school 161 00:08:02,965 --> 00:08:06,724 to learn how to experience 162 00:08:06,827 --> 00:08:12,655 and interpret the spiritual message which we call prophecy. 163 00:08:12,758 --> 00:08:18,000 And the biblical teachings of prophecy were not limited 164 00:08:18,103 --> 00:08:22,068 to those of the religious world. 165 00:08:22,172 --> 00:08:25,620 Many people have been trained in these techniques, 166 00:08:25,724 --> 00:08:27,482 and we don't even realize it. 167 00:08:29,137 --> 00:08:32,448 SHATNER: Trained to see the future? 168 00:08:32,551 --> 00:08:36,413 Could such a farfetched but also tantalizing notion 169 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:39,241 actually be possible? 170 00:08:39,344 --> 00:08:42,862 I think our generation is on the precipice of a great question 171 00:08:42,965 --> 00:08:45,758 about the extra-physical abilities of the mind. 172 00:08:45,862 --> 00:08:47,413 I don't know that we'll answer it, 173 00:08:47,517 --> 00:08:48,862 but I think it is coming 174 00:08:48,965 --> 00:08:50,896 more and more into focus 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 that materialism just doesn't cover 176 00:08:53,103 --> 00:08:55,172 all the bases of life anymore, 177 00:08:55,275 --> 00:08:57,758 and that the mind has capacities, 178 00:08:57,862 --> 00:09:00,172 including extra-physical capacities, 179 00:09:00,275 --> 00:09:02,275 that are measurable, that are present, 180 00:09:02,379 --> 00:09:05,103 and that we're only beginning to understand. 181 00:09:05,206 --> 00:09:07,068 HAMILTON-PARKER: It's a natural part 182 00:09:07,172 --> 00:09:10,448 of the human condition to make predictions. 183 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:13,827 And couldn't it be that maybe our predictive ability 184 00:09:13,931 --> 00:09:15,758 is far greater than we've ever imagined? 185 00:09:15,862 --> 00:09:18,793 That maybe every one of us somehow has a way 186 00:09:18,896 --> 00:09:20,827 of seeing into the fabric of time? 187 00:09:20,931 --> 00:09:24,758 We just have to trust that ability. 188 00:09:24,862 --> 00:09:26,655 SHATNER: If each of us could learn 189 00:09:26,758 --> 00:09:29,517 how to predict the future, would we accept our fate, 190 00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:31,172 or fight to change it? 191 00:09:31,275 --> 00:09:33,448 Perhaps the answer can be found 192 00:09:33,551 --> 00:09:35,758 by studying the prophecies of the man who is considered 193 00:09:35,862 --> 00:09:38,344 one of the greatest prophets of all time-- 194 00:09:38,448 --> 00:09:41,551 Nostradamus. 195 00:09:49,620 --> 00:09:50,965 SHATNER: Astrologer and physician 196 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:54,310 Michel de Nostradamus publishes a volume 197 00:09:54,413 --> 00:09:56,793 of four-line poems, called "quatrains." 198 00:09:56,896 --> 00:09:58,758 Readers at the time are confused 199 00:09:58,862 --> 00:10:00,965 by the author's use of multiple languages, 200 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:03,482 word puzzles, and what was even then 201 00:10:03,586 --> 00:10:06,517 considered antiquated syntax. 202 00:10:06,620 --> 00:10:10,172 But perhaps even more baffling is the volume's title, 203 00:10:10,275 --> 00:10:13,517 Les Propheties-- The Prophecies. 204 00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:18,724 HOGUE: Nostradamus had become 205 00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:22,206 initially famous as an almanac writer. 206 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:24,034 You've got to understand that this is 207 00:10:24,137 --> 00:10:26,000 during the time of the printing revolution, 208 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:28,586 and he was one of its first best-selling authors. 209 00:10:28,689 --> 00:10:32,482 And then he embarked on a history of the future, 210 00:10:32,586 --> 00:10:35,620 which would look at everything 211 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:38,931 up to the year 3797 AD, 212 00:10:39,034 --> 00:10:42,344 nearly 1,800 years from now, and beyond. 213 00:10:42,448 --> 00:10:43,655 SHATNER: The Prophecies was initially met 214 00:10:43,758 --> 00:10:46,517 with outright skepticism and derision. 215 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:50,344 Many believed Nostradamus to be either a fraud 216 00:10:50,448 --> 00:10:51,931 or mentally ill, 217 00:10:52,034 --> 00:10:53,655 possibly both, 218 00:10:53,758 --> 00:10:56,137 likely due to the fact that one of his verses 219 00:10:56,241 --> 00:11:00,620 scandalously foretold of a particularly gory death 220 00:11:00,724 --> 00:11:02,586 for Henry II, the king of France. 221 00:11:02,689 --> 00:11:04,448 HOGUE: Nostradamus made a prediction 222 00:11:04,551 --> 00:11:08,620 about Henry II dying in a jousting accident. 223 00:11:08,724 --> 00:11:11,965 - [neighing] - Quatrain 35 224 00:11:12,068 --> 00:11:15,000 read that a young lion would face the old 225 00:11:15,103 --> 00:11:16,965 in traditional combat. 226 00:11:17,068 --> 00:11:19,000 He shall be pierced 227 00:11:19,103 --> 00:11:20,620 through a gilded cage. 228 00:11:20,724 --> 00:11:22,862 Two wounds made one. 229 00:11:22,965 --> 00:11:27,827 The joust happened exactly as he foretold it. 230 00:11:29,034 --> 00:11:32,275 Both men had lions on their shields. 231 00:11:32,379 --> 00:11:36,586 Large shards went through the gilded visor of the king. 232 00:11:36,689 --> 00:11:39,655 One penetrated his forehead into his brain, 233 00:11:39,758 --> 00:11:42,482 the other in between his eye and socket, 234 00:11:42,586 --> 00:11:44,275 destroying his eye. 235 00:11:44,379 --> 00:11:48,620 And he died of infection of the brain ten days later, 236 00:11:48,724 --> 00:11:51,413 an agonizing death. 237 00:11:51,517 --> 00:11:53,827 SHATNER: After the king's death, 238 00:11:53,931 --> 00:11:58,448 Nostradamus' reputation as a seer of the future grew rapidly, 239 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:00,413 which was, at the time, 240 00:12:00,517 --> 00:12:03,965 not necessarily a good thing. 241 00:12:04,068 --> 00:12:07,620 It is well-known that Nostradamus concealed 242 00:12:07,724 --> 00:12:09,862 the nature of his prophecies, 243 00:12:09,965 --> 00:12:12,793 which, at that time, was very politically incorrect 244 00:12:12,896 --> 00:12:16,586 and could have gotten him in a lot of trouble. 245 00:12:16,689 --> 00:12:18,517 He would come into great conflict with the church 246 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:21,344 if he p-put himself on a pedestal and be like 247 00:12:21,448 --> 00:12:25,241 Noah or Moses or people like this. 248 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,586 SHATNER: Despite the controversy, 249 00:12:27,689 --> 00:12:29,241 The Prophecies eventually became 250 00:12:29,344 --> 00:12:32,000 one of the most widely read books in the world. 251 00:12:32,103 --> 00:12:35,344 It both astounded and terrified readers with its predictions 252 00:12:35,448 --> 00:12:38,655 about dreadful events to come. 253 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,551 - [whispering] - Is it possible 254 00:12:40,655 --> 00:12:43,034 Nostradamus received his prophetic visions 255 00:12:43,137 --> 00:12:46,482 because he was in touch with a higher power? 256 00:12:46,586 --> 00:12:50,103 It's an interesting theory 257 00:12:50,206 --> 00:12:52,379 and could help explain how Nostradamus was able to see 258 00:12:52,482 --> 00:12:55,517 and know things that would not happen for centuries, 259 00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:59,310 things he was trying to warn us about. 260 00:12:59,413 --> 00:13:01,379 - [whistling] - [explosion] 261 00:13:01,482 --> 00:13:02,551 1942. 262 00:13:02,655 --> 00:13:04,862 With World War II 263 00:13:04,965 --> 00:13:07,000 wreaking havoc throughout Europe and the Pacific, 264 00:13:07,103 --> 00:13:09,413 it wasn't only the latest news 265 00:13:09,517 --> 00:13:11,551 from the front lines making headlines 266 00:13:11,655 --> 00:13:13,724 but also Nostradamus 267 00:13:13,827 --> 00:13:16,931 and his prophecy centering 268 00:13:17,034 --> 00:13:20,827 on the rise of a man named Hister. 269 00:13:22,103 --> 00:13:25,551 HOGUE: What triggered his international fame 270 00:13:25,655 --> 00:13:29,413 was a reference five times in his prophecies 271 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:32,344 about a man named Hister 272 00:13:32,448 --> 00:13:34,413 with a Gothic "S," 273 00:13:34,517 --> 00:13:36,551 which has a "T" crossed. 274 00:13:36,655 --> 00:13:39,482 Another push, push, nudge, nudge, perhaps, 275 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:41,068 in his work. 276 00:13:41,172 --> 00:13:45,034 Hister is the ancient name of the river Danube. 277 00:13:45,137 --> 00:13:48,275 Adolf Hitler grew up on the river Danube. 278 00:13:48,379 --> 00:13:52,551 Nostradamus had a pattern of using a place as a person. 279 00:13:52,655 --> 00:13:54,586 The river is a code, 280 00:13:54,689 --> 00:13:56,862 and the things that are said in the other parts 281 00:13:56,965 --> 00:14:00,379 of the prophecies indicate that it's a man. 282 00:14:00,482 --> 00:14:05,758 The man who's called the captain of greater Germany. 283 00:14:07,931 --> 00:14:10,344 SHATNER: Is it possible 284 00:14:10,448 --> 00:14:12,241 Nostradamus predicted the rise 285 00:14:12,344 --> 00:14:15,172 of one of the most evil men in history? 286 00:14:15,275 --> 00:14:17,413 According to many who have studied these quatrains, 287 00:14:17,517 --> 00:14:18,517 the answer is yes. 288 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:19,931 And as evidence, 289 00:14:20,034 --> 00:14:22,172 they point to other things he foresaw, 290 00:14:22,275 --> 00:14:25,758 things that a person who lived and died in the 16th century 291 00:14:25,862 --> 00:14:29,620 could never know would one day exist. 292 00:14:29,724 --> 00:14:31,172 This happened many times for me, 293 00:14:31,275 --> 00:14:33,000 when I want to just slap the book shut 294 00:14:33,103 --> 00:14:34,827 and say, "Oh, come on." 295 00:14:34,931 --> 00:14:37,172 And then names suddenly come out. 296 00:14:37,275 --> 00:14:42,344 A man named de Gaulle will lead France three times. 297 00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:43,793 And it's factually true. 298 00:14:43,896 --> 00:14:45,724 Charles de Gaulle led the free French, 299 00:14:45,827 --> 00:14:47,206 led the provisional government 300 00:14:47,310 --> 00:14:49,655 and then, finally, in his final years, 301 00:14:49,758 --> 00:14:52,103 was president of France-- three times. 302 00:14:52,206 --> 00:14:54,827 And that's one of hundreds of things I can cite. 303 00:14:54,931 --> 00:14:57,551 How does he do this? 304 00:14:57,655 --> 00:15:01,448 HOROWITZ: Nostradamus is one of the most enduring names, 305 00:15:01,551 --> 00:15:03,482 perhaps the most enduring name, 306 00:15:03,586 --> 00:15:05,655 in post-biblical prophecy. 307 00:15:05,758 --> 00:15:09,413 His quatrains have been applied to hundreds upon hundreds 308 00:15:09,517 --> 00:15:11,034 of events throughout history, 309 00:15:11,137 --> 00:15:13,517 and people continue to feel that they can learn 310 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,758 what's around the next corner by studying his quatrains. 311 00:15:16,862 --> 00:15:18,586 HAMILTON-PARKER: Nostradamus fascinates us, 312 00:15:18,689 --> 00:15:22,103 because it's perhaps part of our fear instinct, isn't it? 313 00:15:22,206 --> 00:15:24,413 When we're in difficult times, we turn to the seers, 314 00:15:24,517 --> 00:15:27,793 we turn to the prophets to try to find out can they give 315 00:15:27,896 --> 00:15:30,413 some insight into these chaotic times we live in, 316 00:15:30,517 --> 00:15:31,931 particularly in today's time. 317 00:15:32,034 --> 00:15:34,172 SHATNER: If it's true 318 00:15:34,275 --> 00:15:36,655 that Nostradamus was able to predict so many things 319 00:15:36,758 --> 00:15:38,862 with such incredible accuracy, 320 00:15:38,965 --> 00:15:40,931 why aren't we scouring his works 321 00:15:41,034 --> 00:15:44,241 in order to prevent the next natural catastrophe 322 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,241 or world war? 323 00:15:46,344 --> 00:15:47,862 Perhaps because, 324 00:15:47,965 --> 00:15:50,586 as scholars of Nostradamus have to admit, 325 00:15:50,689 --> 00:15:52,896 of the thousands of prophecies he made 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,724 over the course of his life, 327 00:15:54,827 --> 00:15:59,000 only a small fraction have actually come true. 328 00:15:59,103 --> 00:16:01,862 And even his seemingly accurate predictions 329 00:16:01,965 --> 00:16:04,034 have been questioned. 330 00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:07,000 HAMILTON-PARKER: We kind of have a double problem with Nostradamus in some ways, 331 00:16:07,103 --> 00:16:09,551 because some of the predictions are a bit vague 332 00:16:09,655 --> 00:16:11,655 and people can project all sorts 333 00:16:11,758 --> 00:16:13,172 of things into these vague predictions 334 00:16:13,275 --> 00:16:15,896 and then relate them to something that's happening now. 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,655 But, also, sometimes they take 336 00:16:18,758 --> 00:16:20,862 two completely unrelated sentences, 337 00:16:20,965 --> 00:16:23,103 put them together, and it seems to relate 338 00:16:23,206 --> 00:16:25,137 to something we have today. 339 00:16:25,241 --> 00:16:28,827 KAKU: The brain is a pattern-seeking learning machine. 340 00:16:28,931 --> 00:16:31,103 It constantly sees patterns, 341 00:16:31,206 --> 00:16:32,827 even when they're not there. 342 00:16:32,931 --> 00:16:35,275 Um, in fact, there's a name for it, apophenia. 343 00:16:35,379 --> 00:16:39,689 We can't help it, because sometimes we were right. 344 00:16:39,793 --> 00:16:41,517 Then we make leaps of logic. 345 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:44,827 What does he mean? What did he really mean by that? 346 00:16:44,931 --> 00:16:46,793 And then we try to make sense of it, 347 00:16:46,896 --> 00:16:50,137 because that's what the brain does. 348 00:16:52,241 --> 00:16:53,827 SHATNER: Are Nostradamus' predictions 349 00:16:53,931 --> 00:16:56,275 merely the ramblings of a madman, 350 00:16:56,379 --> 00:16:58,206 which people deliberately interpret 351 00:16:58,310 --> 00:17:00,965 in order to fit history after the fact? 352 00:17:01,068 --> 00:17:03,206 As with anything, 353 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:06,931 it all depends on who you ask. 354 00:17:07,034 --> 00:17:09,517 HOGUE: What makes Nostradamus so relevant today 355 00:17:09,620 --> 00:17:12,068 is that he's found a way 356 00:17:12,172 --> 00:17:15,758 through his obscurity to make everybody a sleuthsayer, 357 00:17:15,862 --> 00:17:17,965 a detective. 358 00:17:18,068 --> 00:17:20,724 He understood that it would keep him topical 359 00:17:20,827 --> 00:17:22,344 for four and a half centuries. 360 00:17:22,448 --> 00:17:25,620 He even said that, "When I'm dead, 361 00:17:25,724 --> 00:17:29,758 I will be far more famous than I ever was while I'm alive." 362 00:17:29,862 --> 00:17:31,206 SHATNER: For skeptics, 363 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:33,206 the enduring mystery of Nostradamus 364 00:17:33,310 --> 00:17:34,896 is nothing more than a testament 365 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,206 to the power of wishful thinking. 366 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:39,586 - [sirens wailing] - But others insist 367 00:17:39,689 --> 00:17:42,344 that if we paid closer attention to his prophecies, 368 00:17:42,448 --> 00:17:44,655 we might have been able to prevent 369 00:17:44,758 --> 00:17:45,862 one of the greatest tragedies 370 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:48,655 of the last one hundred years, 371 00:17:48,758 --> 00:17:51,689 9/11. 372 00:18:03,724 --> 00:18:06,137 [shouting] 373 00:18:06,241 --> 00:18:07,965 MAN: Whoa, whoa! 374 00:18:08,068 --> 00:18:11,689 SHATNER: 19 terrorists overwhelm the flight crews 375 00:18:11,793 --> 00:18:14,206 of four passenger planes 376 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:19,448 and send each of them crashing into prearranged targets. 377 00:18:19,551 --> 00:18:22,862 - [sirens wailing] - [screaming] 378 00:18:22,965 --> 00:18:24,827 MAN: Get out of here! Get out! 379 00:18:24,931 --> 00:18:26,551 SHATNER: They are chosen to inflict 380 00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:30,379 massive casualties and cripple the morale of the United States. 381 00:18:30,482 --> 00:18:33,931 [screaming] 382 00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:36,827 It is a tragedy that has become a permanent part 383 00:18:36,931 --> 00:18:40,448 of our collective consciousness 384 00:18:40,551 --> 00:18:45,137 and a day that forever changed the world. 385 00:18:50,413 --> 00:18:55,448 But had the event been predicted? 386 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:56,965 - [siren wailing] - And if so, 387 00:18:57,068 --> 00:19:00,137 could it have been prevented? 388 00:19:02,413 --> 00:19:04,241 "I'm gonna die soon, and it's gonna be a plane crash 389 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:05,517 or a car accident." 390 00:19:05,620 --> 00:19:07,034 That's what my sister told me 391 00:19:07,137 --> 00:19:10,896 about two weeks before the planes crashed 392 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,344 into the towers on 9/11. 393 00:19:15,344 --> 00:19:19,000 My sister and I were super, super close. 394 00:19:19,103 --> 00:19:20,896 She was eight years older than me, 395 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,241 so she was like a second mom. 396 00:19:24,344 --> 00:19:27,586 My mom and my sister and I were all very close, 397 00:19:27,689 --> 00:19:29,206 like a warm family. 398 00:19:29,310 --> 00:19:32,862 Marisa had a job at Cantor Fitzgerald, 399 00:19:32,965 --> 00:19:36,620 which occupied the top floors of Tower One. 400 00:19:36,724 --> 00:19:39,068 On the eve of September 11... 401 00:19:39,172 --> 00:19:41,793 September 10 is my mom's birthday, 402 00:19:41,896 --> 00:19:45,586 and we all were invited by my sister 403 00:19:45,689 --> 00:19:47,586 to Windows on the World, the top of Tower One. 404 00:19:47,689 --> 00:19:49,275 And, um, 405 00:19:49,379 --> 00:19:52,724 you know, everything I talked to her about that night 406 00:19:52,827 --> 00:19:55,034 was kind of like she was talking to me for the last time, 407 00:19:55,137 --> 00:19:56,379 in a weird way. 408 00:19:56,482 --> 00:19:59,034 And I thought back, you know, 409 00:19:59,137 --> 00:20:01,241 a few weeks before when she said, 410 00:20:01,344 --> 00:20:03,517 "I know I'm gonna die, and it's gonna be soon." 411 00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:05,793 And, uh, she started to cry. 412 00:20:05,896 --> 00:20:08,241 And I said, "How do you know that?" 413 00:20:08,344 --> 00:20:11,413 She said, "Just trust me. I know I'm going to." 414 00:20:11,517 --> 00:20:14,137 Never in a million years did I think 415 00:20:14,241 --> 00:20:18,206 a plane was about to smash right into where we were sitting 416 00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:21,793 just about 12 hours later. 417 00:20:21,896 --> 00:20:24,379 Everyone died that was at Cantor, 418 00:20:24,482 --> 00:20:26,862 because the plane hit perfectly. 419 00:20:26,965 --> 00:20:29,724 My sister was, um... 420 00:20:29,827 --> 00:20:33,586 one of those people. 421 00:20:33,689 --> 00:20:36,896 SHATNER: Since 2001, 422 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,275 hundreds of accounts similar to Marisa DiNardo's 423 00:20:40,379 --> 00:20:41,517 have surfaced, 424 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:43,413 all of them suggesting that, 425 00:20:43,517 --> 00:20:46,379 in the days and weeks leading up to the tragic event, 426 00:20:46,482 --> 00:20:48,517 many of the 9/11 victims 427 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:50,724 had dreadful premonitions 428 00:20:50,827 --> 00:20:54,241 about some sort of deadly catastrophe. 429 00:20:54,344 --> 00:20:55,827 DINARDO: I remember hearing 430 00:20:55,931 --> 00:20:58,275 about a story where a man had a dream 431 00:20:58,379 --> 00:21:00,448 of a plane hitting a building 432 00:21:00,551 --> 00:21:03,896 a few days before 9/11. 433 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,620 I also remember reading about a woman 434 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:08,310 that was sitting at the PATH station 435 00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:09,724 and had this vision 436 00:21:09,827 --> 00:21:12,103 of the World Trade Center falling on her. 437 00:21:12,206 --> 00:21:15,689 It was the same week that 9/11 happened. 438 00:21:15,793 --> 00:21:18,448 There was, um, another story 439 00:21:18,551 --> 00:21:20,275 of a man that didn't want to get 440 00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:23,000 on to one of the flights because of a-a dream 441 00:21:23,103 --> 00:21:25,586 or-or a premonition that he had. 442 00:21:25,689 --> 00:21:28,172 SHATNER: According to some experts, 443 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:30,758 these premonitions, unlike predictions made 444 00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:32,655 by so-called "professional prophets," 445 00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:35,517 are a part of an innate, biological 446 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:36,896 early-warning system 447 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,206 that all of us possess. 448 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:43,310 Usually intuition is more of a gut feeling or a feeling 449 00:21:43,413 --> 00:21:47,448 that you just knew something, and it typically results 450 00:21:47,551 --> 00:21:51,000 from pattern recognition, or our mind's ability 451 00:21:51,103 --> 00:21:54,931 to very quickly decipher patterns in the environment. 452 00:21:55,034 --> 00:21:58,034 And because we usually can't articulate the basis 453 00:21:58,137 --> 00:22:00,241 of our gut feeling or how we just knew something, 454 00:22:00,344 --> 00:22:05,103 it can often feel like ESP or a sixth sense 455 00:22:05,206 --> 00:22:09,000 or like we had a successful premonition. 456 00:22:10,448 --> 00:22:12,103 SHATNER: If humans do have 457 00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:15,551 an instinctual danger sense, designed to help us 458 00:22:15,655 --> 00:22:17,689 anticipate what's around the corner, 459 00:22:17,793 --> 00:22:19,965 could that explain how so many people 460 00:22:20,068 --> 00:22:23,344 seemed to know the 9/11 attacks were coming? 461 00:22:23,448 --> 00:22:26,551 There are some who believe the answer may be found by examining 462 00:22:26,655 --> 00:22:31,862 a strange occurrence that happened on that fateful day. 463 00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:34,793 HOROWITZ: There was a paranormal research lab 464 00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:36,931 at Princeton University 465 00:22:37,034 --> 00:22:39,793 that placed a number of machines around the world, 466 00:22:39,896 --> 00:22:42,344 referred to as random number generators. 467 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:44,931 A random number generator is actually 468 00:22:45,034 --> 00:22:46,896 a machine that you use all the time. 469 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,137 It spits out a random pattern of numbers. 470 00:22:49,241 --> 00:22:51,448 And it's used to create passwords for Web sites 471 00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:55,068 or safes or any number of devices that need to be secure. 472 00:22:55,172 --> 00:22:58,758 There are million-to-one odds 473 00:22:58,862 --> 00:23:01,379 against any patterns showing up 474 00:23:01,482 --> 00:23:03,862 in the data that comes out of a random number generator. 475 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:06,310 What the Princeton researchers found 476 00:23:06,413 --> 00:23:10,344 was that when the tragedy of 9/11 occurred, 477 00:23:10,448 --> 00:23:13,275 these random number generators demonstrated 478 00:23:13,379 --> 00:23:16,103 an interruption in the random pattern. 479 00:23:16,206 --> 00:23:20,137 They demonstrated symmetry where there shouldn't be any. 480 00:23:20,241 --> 00:23:23,482 SHATNER: Patterns created by machines 481 00:23:23,586 --> 00:23:25,655 programmed to avoid them? 482 00:23:25,758 --> 00:23:29,344 There are many who believe that the so-called "computer glitch" 483 00:23:29,448 --> 00:23:31,931 that occurred at the same time as the 9/11 attacks 484 00:23:32,034 --> 00:23:36,275 was no mere coincidence. 485 00:23:36,379 --> 00:23:39,103 And according to researchers familiar with 486 00:23:39,206 --> 00:23:43,413 the Princeton incident, certain events, such as catastrophes, 487 00:23:43,517 --> 00:23:48,034 actually have tangible, measurable effects 488 00:23:48,137 --> 00:23:52,620 not only on humans, but on electronic devices. 489 00:23:52,724 --> 00:23:56,206 Could it be that major events that have a huge effect 490 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:59,827 on history maybe act like a sort of a bomb of some sort? 491 00:23:59,931 --> 00:24:02,482 That send ripples through time, 492 00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:04,724 both forward in time and backwards in time? 493 00:24:04,827 --> 00:24:09,206 And people see this, we see it like a light on the horizon. 494 00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:12,172 We see parts of it, but not all of it. 495 00:24:12,275 --> 00:24:15,379 We get the energy from the future 496 00:24:15,482 --> 00:24:19,620 reaching back to us here in the past. 497 00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:23,551 I believe that there is 498 00:24:23,655 --> 00:24:26,137 certainly a higher power, 499 00:24:26,241 --> 00:24:29,000 an energy or whatever you want to call it 500 00:24:29,103 --> 00:24:33,103 'cause I really do feel with every sense of my being 501 00:24:33,206 --> 00:24:36,965 that my sister knew and that she was going. 502 00:24:37,068 --> 00:24:40,551 I mean, how else can you explain the things she said 503 00:24:40,655 --> 00:24:45,206 and, uh, what she knew. 504 00:24:46,827 --> 00:24:49,482 Could the horrifying attacks of September the 11th 505 00:24:49,586 --> 00:24:51,068 have been prevented, 506 00:24:51,172 --> 00:24:54,103 not by law enforcement, but by those who literally 507 00:24:54,206 --> 00:24:56,551 saw it happen in advance? 508 00:24:56,655 --> 00:25:01,379 There are those who believe that not only is the answer yes, 509 00:25:01,482 --> 00:25:05,793 but that the ability to predict the future can be harnessed 510 00:25:05,896 --> 00:25:07,931 in an effort to ensure 511 00:25:08,034 --> 00:25:10,620 mankind's destiny. 512 00:25:21,103 --> 00:25:23,379 SHATNER: News organizations broadcast 513 00:25:23,482 --> 00:25:28,172 a series of horrific images that stun viewers across the country. 514 00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:33,620 A tidal wave of mud and shale has swallowed the small, 515 00:25:33,724 --> 00:25:38,827 coal-mining town of Aberfan in its entirety. 516 00:25:38,931 --> 00:25:42,758 Of the 144 people killed by the landslide, 517 00:25:42,862 --> 00:25:46,344 116 are schoolchildren. 518 00:25:46,448 --> 00:25:48,793 And for this tight-knit community, 519 00:25:48,896 --> 00:25:52,724 many of whom have lived in Aberfan for generations, 520 00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:55,793 the loss is devastating. 521 00:25:55,896 --> 00:25:57,965 POPE: One of the first people 522 00:25:58,068 --> 00:26:02,793 to respond to the disaster is psychiatrist John Barker. 523 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:05,758 Initially, he arrives 524 00:26:05,862 --> 00:26:09,000 to offer consultation to the survivors. 525 00:26:09,103 --> 00:26:11,827 VIVANCO: So, when he gets there, he's interviewing 526 00:26:11,931 --> 00:26:14,241 parents that had lost children. 527 00:26:14,344 --> 00:26:19,310 He was really surprised to hear that there were premonitions 528 00:26:19,413 --> 00:26:21,241 before it happened. 529 00:26:21,344 --> 00:26:25,000 One boy drew a picture of people amassed on the hillside, 530 00:26:25,103 --> 00:26:27,551 digging into it, and he wrote underneath, "the end." 531 00:26:27,655 --> 00:26:30,931 Also, there was 532 00:26:31,034 --> 00:26:34,034 a young girl who told her mom about a dream where 533 00:26:34,137 --> 00:26:37,275 she said there was this black mass over the school 534 00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:39,000 and she couldn't get in. 535 00:26:39,103 --> 00:26:43,896 Both of these children later went to school and died. 536 00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:48,551 POPE: Barker begins to wonder whether 537 00:26:48,655 --> 00:26:50,586 these premonitions could be used 538 00:26:50,689 --> 00:26:53,689 as a sort of early warning system 539 00:26:53,793 --> 00:26:57,793 that might prevent future disasters. 540 00:26:57,896 --> 00:27:01,310 So he asked Peter Fairley, who ran the science desk 541 00:27:01,413 --> 00:27:05,655 at the national newspaper, the London Evening Standard, 542 00:27:05,758 --> 00:27:07,758 to consider setting up a program 543 00:27:07,862 --> 00:27:10,517 to collate people's premonitions. 544 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:15,517 Fairley not only agreed, but he set up 545 00:27:15,620 --> 00:27:19,448 an entire bureau to act as a focal point. 546 00:27:19,551 --> 00:27:23,000 Starting in January 1967, 547 00:27:23,103 --> 00:27:25,793 the bureau commences operations. 548 00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:28,344 Reports come in, and the bureau staff-- 549 00:27:28,448 --> 00:27:33,310 they devise an 11-point system, looking for patterns. 550 00:27:33,413 --> 00:27:38,344 Five points for unusualness, five points for accuracy, 551 00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:40,172 and one point for timing. 552 00:27:40,275 --> 00:27:43,000 SHATNER: The British Premonitions Bureau, 553 00:27:43,103 --> 00:27:45,068 as it would come to be called, 554 00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:49,206 collected 469 predictions in its first year. 555 00:27:50,793 --> 00:27:55,586 Unsurprisingly, many never came true. 556 00:27:55,689 --> 00:27:58,862 But those submitted by two individuals-- 557 00:27:58,965 --> 00:28:01,551 Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton-- 558 00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:03,655 stood out from the crowd. 559 00:28:03,758 --> 00:28:06,620 POPE: Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton 560 00:28:06,724 --> 00:28:10,241 made headlines in March 1967 561 00:28:10,344 --> 00:28:14,206 when they both predicted a train accident 562 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:20,068 just days before a passenger car derailed, killing 49 people. 563 00:28:20,172 --> 00:28:24,758 Hencher also had a premonition about a fatal plane crash, 564 00:28:24,862 --> 00:28:27,965 predicting the number of people who would die. 565 00:28:28,068 --> 00:28:31,034 That kind of accuracy is staggering. 566 00:28:31,137 --> 00:28:33,379 SHATNER: For John Barker, 567 00:28:33,482 --> 00:28:35,448 the notion that Hencher and Middleton's predictions 568 00:28:35,551 --> 00:28:38,896 might allow him to warn people of disasters ahead of time 569 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,137 was an exciting one. 570 00:28:42,241 --> 00:28:44,482 For the next year, he sent hundreds of what he believed 571 00:28:44,586 --> 00:28:46,137 to be credible predictions 572 00:28:46,241 --> 00:28:49,275 to the editors of the London Evening Standard. 573 00:28:51,448 --> 00:28:54,379 But in the summer of 1968, 574 00:28:54,482 --> 00:28:58,068 there was one deadly premonition that he chose to ignore. 575 00:28:58,172 --> 00:28:59,655 - [phone ringing] - One that was shared 576 00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:02,103 by both Hencher and Middleton, 577 00:29:02,206 --> 00:29:05,000 and it involved John Barker himself. 578 00:29:05,103 --> 00:29:06,862 VIVANCO: Around 1:00 in the morning, 579 00:29:06,965 --> 00:29:09,206 Hencher calls Barker. 580 00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:11,206 He's in a panic. 581 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:13,655 He's got a-a terrible premonition. 582 00:29:13,758 --> 00:29:15,551 He says, "Do you have a dark car?" 583 00:29:15,655 --> 00:29:17,758 Barker says, "Yes." 584 00:29:17,862 --> 00:29:20,137 And he tells Barker, "You have to be careful. 585 00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:22,482 Be very, very careful." 586 00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:25,965 Then Barker asks him, "What? Am I in danger?" 587 00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:28,724 Hencher says, "Yes." 588 00:29:28,827 --> 00:29:33,000 POPE: Barker wrote a memo the next day 589 00:29:33,103 --> 00:29:37,068 explaining that Hencher could only explain 590 00:29:37,172 --> 00:29:40,724 that the dark car was somehow connected to Barker 591 00:29:40,827 --> 00:29:42,965 and a potentially deadly outcome. 592 00:29:43,068 --> 00:29:45,068 It all seemed pretty vague, 593 00:29:45,172 --> 00:29:48,172 and perhaps that wouldn't have worried Barker so much 594 00:29:48,275 --> 00:29:51,172 were it not for the fact that there was another warning 595 00:29:51,275 --> 00:29:54,896 from his other superstar Lorna Middleton. 596 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,137 [siren blaring] 597 00:29:57,241 --> 00:29:59,241 SHATNER: On August 18, 1968, 598 00:29:59,344 --> 00:30:01,448 less than two years after he had opened 599 00:30:01,551 --> 00:30:03,137 his Bureau of Premonitions, 600 00:30:03,241 --> 00:30:07,413 John Barker was suddenly rushed to the hospital. 601 00:30:07,517 --> 00:30:12,517 POPE: Barker died of a sudden brain hemorrhage, age 44. 602 00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:17,137 The British Premonitions Bureau closed down shortly thereafter. 603 00:30:17,241 --> 00:30:19,655 SHATNER: As for the dark car? 604 00:30:19,758 --> 00:30:23,344 There are many who are convinced that the answer is simple. 605 00:30:23,448 --> 00:30:27,448 It was the funeral hearse that conveyed John Barker's body 606 00:30:27,551 --> 00:30:30,206 to its final resting place. 607 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:33,965 It raises the question, was Barker's own death 608 00:30:34,068 --> 00:30:35,793 just a coincidence? 609 00:30:35,896 --> 00:30:37,931 Was it self-fulfilling prophecy, 610 00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:40,482 or like the rest of the bureau's predictions, 611 00:30:40,586 --> 00:30:44,413 was fate simply too powerful to be stopped? 612 00:30:46,482 --> 00:30:49,551 Was the leader of the British Premonitions Bureau 613 00:30:49,655 --> 00:30:53,862 literally scared to death by other people's visions? 614 00:30:53,965 --> 00:30:56,379 Perhaps. But does the ability 615 00:30:56,482 --> 00:30:58,551 to see the future mean our lives are preordained? 616 00:31:00,137 --> 00:31:02,241 Or is it possible that by knowing the future, 617 00:31:02,344 --> 00:31:06,000 we can change and even improve... our destiny? 618 00:31:06,103 --> 00:31:08,827 Maybe we'll find out the answer by investigating 619 00:31:08,931 --> 00:31:12,275 yet another form of prognostication... 620 00:31:12,379 --> 00:31:14,344 dreams. 621 00:31:24,379 --> 00:31:28,344 SHATNER: Cognitive neuroscientist Julia Mossbridge settles 622 00:31:28,448 --> 00:31:30,827 into bed after a long day. 623 00:31:30,931 --> 00:31:34,517 It's a night's sleep that begins like any other... 624 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:38,620 until she experiences a strange 625 00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,689 and disturbing dream. 626 00:31:40,793 --> 00:31:43,586 MOSSBRIDGE: This dream was horrible. 627 00:31:43,689 --> 00:31:46,068 I was taken 628 00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:48,551 to someplace in the Middle East. I didn't know where. 629 00:31:50,517 --> 00:31:52,931 I met this man. 630 00:31:53,034 --> 00:31:55,068 He shows up sometimes in my dreams. 631 00:31:55,172 --> 00:31:57,241 He's like a guide. 632 00:31:57,344 --> 00:31:59,344 There was this outdoor building. 633 00:31:59,448 --> 00:32:01,586 It was mosque-like 634 00:32:01,689 --> 00:32:02,862 in that it was built out of stone 635 00:32:02,965 --> 00:32:06,000 and there were breezeways. 636 00:32:06,103 --> 00:32:09,172 It was the middle of the day. People are praying. 637 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:11,034 SHATNER: In the confusing fog of her dream, 638 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:14,655 Julia pieces together an unsettling picture. 639 00:32:14,758 --> 00:32:18,655 It seems that her guide is desperately trying 640 00:32:18,758 --> 00:32:20,379 to warn her of something that is going to happen. 641 00:32:20,482 --> 00:32:21,793 Something dire. 642 00:32:21,896 --> 00:32:24,862 MOSSBRIDGE: And he's showing me this event. 643 00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:30,172 There was rubble because there was 644 00:32:30,275 --> 00:32:32,448 a terrorist explosion when people were praying. 645 00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:35,344 And he showed me this writing. 646 00:32:35,448 --> 00:32:37,862 It was Arabic. 647 00:32:37,965 --> 00:32:40,965 There was the letters for "I" and "S," 648 00:32:41,068 --> 00:32:44,896 and I knew that stood for Islamic State. 649 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,310 SHATNER: But before she can awaken herself 650 00:32:47,413 --> 00:32:49,758 from her nightmare, she realizes 651 00:32:49,862 --> 00:32:54,068 he still has one more message to deliver. 652 00:32:54,172 --> 00:32:58,310 MOSSBRIDGE: He called the place we were in Kyuck Kyuck. 653 00:32:58,413 --> 00:33:00,275 He kept saying "Kyuck Kyuck." 654 00:33:00,379 --> 00:33:02,068 And I didn't know what that meant. 655 00:33:02,172 --> 00:33:03,758 Since I was a kid, 656 00:33:03,862 --> 00:33:06,448 I have had precognitive dreams. 657 00:33:08,344 --> 00:33:10,103 Usually they're describing an event that happens 658 00:33:10,206 --> 00:33:12,965 the next day, the next week, the next month. 659 00:33:13,068 --> 00:33:15,689 So, when I woke up, I wrote it in my dream journal 660 00:33:15,793 --> 00:33:17,206 because that's my habit. I never had 661 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,000 a precognitive dream of something horrible 662 00:33:19,103 --> 00:33:21,310 like that on a, on a major world scale. 663 00:33:21,413 --> 00:33:22,344 It shook me. 664 00:33:24,206 --> 00:33:27,206 During the day, I got the news report 665 00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:30,551 of a bombing in Kuwait City, Kuwait. 666 00:33:30,655 --> 00:33:32,931 I figured, "Oh, that was the Kyuck Kyuck." 667 00:33:33,034 --> 00:33:36,034 I had it almost right but not quite. 668 00:33:37,034 --> 00:33:39,344 This happened during noontime prayers. 669 00:33:39,448 --> 00:33:43,068 Responsibility was claimed by ISIS, Islamic State. 670 00:33:46,827 --> 00:33:50,827 I felt heartbroken because I saw it happen. 671 00:33:51,793 --> 00:33:54,034 SHATNER: Dreams have long been known 672 00:33:54,137 --> 00:33:56,862 to reflect the dreamer's subconscious mind. 673 00:33:56,965 --> 00:33:59,103 Desires, anxieties, 674 00:33:59,206 --> 00:34:03,689 long-forgotten memories all bubbling to the surface. 675 00:34:03,793 --> 00:34:06,620 But precognitive dreams? 676 00:34:06,724 --> 00:34:08,862 Is it really possible that dreams, 677 00:34:08,965 --> 00:34:11,586 like the ones we have every night, 678 00:34:11,689 --> 00:34:14,034 can actually predict the future? 679 00:34:14,137 --> 00:34:16,758 KAKU: When we take a person who's dreaming 680 00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:19,068 and put him in a brain scan machine, 681 00:34:19,172 --> 00:34:21,896 we begin to realize something very interesting. 682 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,689 Blood flow to the front of the brain 683 00:34:23,793 --> 00:34:25,344 is turned off for the most part. 684 00:34:25,448 --> 00:34:28,862 Second, blood flow goes to the emotional part of the brain, 685 00:34:28,965 --> 00:34:30,793 and you start to have nightmares. 686 00:34:30,896 --> 00:34:32,655 You start to have fears. 687 00:34:32,758 --> 00:34:36,068 You imagine the future or have a premonition. 688 00:34:36,172 --> 00:34:38,172 Dreams are important because it allows us 689 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:40,482 to articulate the fears and premonitions 690 00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:43,758 that we have in the unconscious mind, 691 00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:46,448 and then we're able to evaluate it 692 00:34:46,551 --> 00:34:48,172 with the conscious mind. 693 00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:51,379 SHATNER: As unbelievable as it may have seemed 694 00:34:51,482 --> 00:34:53,689 to her scientific mind, 695 00:34:53,793 --> 00:34:56,517 Julia firmly believed she had seen the future 696 00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:58,620 before it happened. 697 00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:00,344 Having been in this position before 698 00:35:00,448 --> 00:35:02,310 and regretting not doing anything about it, 699 00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:06,137 Julia wasn't going to let the same thing happen again. 700 00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:08,413 In fall of 2017, 701 00:35:08,517 --> 00:35:11,586 I had another one of these world stage-type dreams 702 00:35:11,689 --> 00:35:13,034 that felt precognitive 703 00:35:13,137 --> 00:35:14,896 and that did not feel good. 704 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,068 There was a cruise ship. 705 00:35:18,862 --> 00:35:20,793 And there were these cartoon 706 00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:22,620 sort of creatures on the cruise ship. 707 00:35:22,724 --> 00:35:24,862 I thought, "Oh, no. Disney." 708 00:35:24,965 --> 00:35:26,896 And then, after that, 709 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,034 there was a bridge structure. 710 00:35:28,137 --> 00:35:29,517 There was this arching-- 711 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:31,034 it was actually quite beautiful-- 712 00:35:31,137 --> 00:35:33,517 this arching bridge structure. 713 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:34,965 And the concern in the dream 714 00:35:35,068 --> 00:35:37,448 was, that's where the explosion would happen. 715 00:35:38,862 --> 00:35:41,689 And that scared me. 716 00:35:41,793 --> 00:35:42,862 I'd never seen a bridge like that. 717 00:35:42,965 --> 00:35:44,586 So I googled 718 00:35:44,689 --> 00:35:46,068 the shape of the bridge, 719 00:35:46,172 --> 00:35:48,206 and the first thing that shows up 720 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:50,931 is the Coronado Bridge in San Diego. 721 00:35:51,034 --> 00:35:52,206 I remembered that I'd promised myself 722 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:54,000 that I was gonna go to authorities 723 00:35:54,103 --> 00:35:55,206 even if I felt stupid. 724 00:35:56,448 --> 00:35:57,344 MULLEN: I was detailed 725 00:35:57,448 --> 00:35:59,689 to the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force 726 00:35:59,793 --> 00:36:01,482 in San Diego, California. 727 00:36:01,586 --> 00:36:04,448 Julia contacted 728 00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:05,931 somebody within NCIS, 729 00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:07,896 and my boss got word of it 730 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,827 and said, "Hey, just look into this." 731 00:36:09,931 --> 00:36:12,931 I knew very little, if anything, about precog. 732 00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:14,758 I was curious. 733 00:36:14,862 --> 00:36:17,724 I knew from the very second that I started talking to her 734 00:36:17,827 --> 00:36:19,310 that there was no ulterior motive. 735 00:36:19,413 --> 00:36:22,310 When she gave me the information, she was 736 00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:25,551 very specific on the location and the time. 737 00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:29,896 She had actual information and wanted somebody to run with this 738 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,310 to prevent something that she saw in a dream. 739 00:36:32,413 --> 00:36:35,448 Most cops don't like using information 740 00:36:35,551 --> 00:36:37,448 that they can't explain. 741 00:36:37,551 --> 00:36:41,931 And precog is something that is unexplainable. 742 00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:44,655 But if this is something that would actually work, 743 00:36:44,758 --> 00:36:46,551 why not give it a try? 744 00:36:48,344 --> 00:36:51,620 The Coronado Bay Bridge in San Diego is one of the big things 745 00:36:51,724 --> 00:36:56,137 that we try to protect, along with all of the Navy assets. 746 00:36:56,241 --> 00:36:58,103 There are always threats. 747 00:36:59,206 --> 00:37:02,310 We were able to move patrol boats 748 00:37:02,413 --> 00:37:05,034 - to provide coverage around the bridge... - [siren wailing] 749 00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:12,000 ...and nothing happened. 750 00:37:14,793 --> 00:37:17,724 Did nothing happen because there were patrol boats, 751 00:37:17,827 --> 00:37:21,344 and somebody who was looking to do something nefarious 752 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,517 against the bridge basically said, 753 00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:25,034 "I don't want to be caught"? 754 00:37:25,137 --> 00:37:28,448 Or was the attack not even going to happen? 755 00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:33,344 The simple fact that nothing happened was, 756 00:37:33,448 --> 00:37:34,689 in my mind, a win. 757 00:37:37,758 --> 00:37:41,137 MOSSBRIDGE: If you're going to go into this world and use this talent 758 00:37:41,241 --> 00:37:44,931 to create data that can be used to prevent something, 759 00:37:45,034 --> 00:37:46,620 sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 760 00:37:46,724 --> 00:37:50,068 But as long as the bad thing doesn't happen, good. 761 00:37:51,689 --> 00:37:54,206 SHATNER: There are those who believe Julia Mossbridge prevented 762 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:56,965 a dangerous attack by seeing the future 763 00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:58,896 and acting on her vision. 764 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,620 And there are skeptics who question whether 765 00:38:02,724 --> 00:38:04,551 there was any danger in the first place. 766 00:38:07,413 --> 00:38:10,551 But perhaps both sides are missing the target. 767 00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:14,689 Because, according to one incredible theory, 768 00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:17,724 the past, present and future 769 00:38:17,827 --> 00:38:20,413 may actually be the same thing. 770 00:38:28,344 --> 00:38:31,931 SHATNER: The International Data Corporation publishes a report 771 00:38:32,034 --> 00:38:35,689 which estimates that, by the year 2022, 772 00:38:35,793 --> 00:38:40,137 over $270 billion will be spent annually 773 00:38:40,241 --> 00:38:41,620 on a new form of prophecy. 774 00:38:41,724 --> 00:38:45,413 It's called predictive analytics. 775 00:38:45,517 --> 00:38:49,689 Only this time, the prophets will be made of ones and zeros 776 00:38:49,793 --> 00:38:53,344 instead of flesh and blood. 777 00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:58,068 Predictive analytics is a fancy way of saying 778 00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:02,034 "Look at the data and figure out why things happen." 779 00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:04,000 Very important. 780 00:39:04,103 --> 00:39:05,827 Banks, corporations, computer companies 781 00:39:05,931 --> 00:39:09,275 spend hundreds of millions of dollars 782 00:39:09,379 --> 00:39:11,896 sifting through tons of data, 783 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,793 trying to find instances of causality. 784 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:17,655 If I raise the price of a product, 785 00:39:17,758 --> 00:39:20,103 does my profit margin go down? 786 00:39:20,206 --> 00:39:22,724 Will I go bankrupt? 787 00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:25,413 In other words, corporations constantly try 788 00:39:25,517 --> 00:39:26,758 to predict the future. 789 00:39:26,862 --> 00:39:28,344 That's the name of the game. 790 00:39:28,448 --> 00:39:32,103 You predict it wrong, you zag when you should zig, 791 00:39:32,206 --> 00:39:34,965 you go bankrupt. 792 00:39:35,068 --> 00:39:38,310 I think predictive analytics operate very similarly 793 00:39:38,413 --> 00:39:40,068 to how our brains work. 794 00:39:40,172 --> 00:39:43,931 Our minds come equipped to make predictions about the future 795 00:39:44,034 --> 00:39:46,862 based on our past experiences, 796 00:39:46,965 --> 00:39:48,724 and they operate very similarly. 797 00:39:48,827 --> 00:39:51,620 In fact, machine-learning algorithms, 798 00:39:51,724 --> 00:39:54,448 the type that carry out predictive analytics, 799 00:39:54,551 --> 00:39:57,827 are often called neural network models 800 00:39:57,931 --> 00:39:59,827 because they're designed to mimic 801 00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:02,137 how neurons work in our brains. 802 00:40:04,172 --> 00:40:07,275 SHATNER: The idea of advanced computers pulling information 803 00:40:07,379 --> 00:40:09,448 from the cloud in order to predict the future 804 00:40:09,551 --> 00:40:12,000 may sound like science fiction. 805 00:40:13,275 --> 00:40:16,413 But in truth this idea has been around 806 00:40:16,517 --> 00:40:19,551 for thousands of years. 807 00:40:19,655 --> 00:40:22,103 Every culture in history has had some concept 808 00:40:22,206 --> 00:40:23,862 of a universal mind. 809 00:40:23,965 --> 00:40:26,862 The Greeks used to call it nous, or a great overmind. 810 00:40:26,965 --> 00:40:30,000 In Vedic tradition, it's sometimes called Akasha, 811 00:40:30,103 --> 00:40:32,965 or a kind of universal ether. 812 00:40:33,068 --> 00:40:35,931 People like Nostradamus and any seer 813 00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:39,206 will tune into what we call the Akashic record. 814 00:40:40,862 --> 00:40:43,275 This is like the memory of all things. 815 00:40:43,379 --> 00:40:45,137 It's the universal mind. 816 00:40:45,241 --> 00:40:48,482 We enter it by going into a state of meditation 817 00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:53,344 and connecting with the past, the present and the future. 818 00:40:53,448 --> 00:40:57,793 One of the great secrets of the mystical tradition is that 819 00:40:57,896 --> 00:41:00,896 all human souls are one. 820 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,275 So we are part of a collective whole. 821 00:41:04,379 --> 00:41:07,793 In later psychology, it has been understood 822 00:41:07,896 --> 00:41:11,586 to be called a collective unconscious. 823 00:41:11,689 --> 00:41:13,034 In ancient times 824 00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:16,758 it was referred to as a collective soul, 825 00:41:16,862 --> 00:41:19,482 which is the collective mind of all humanity, 826 00:41:19,586 --> 00:41:22,793 past, present, future. 827 00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:24,620 MOSSBRIDGE: I think the people who work in this way, 828 00:41:24,724 --> 00:41:26,689 what they're doing is they're tapping into 829 00:41:26,793 --> 00:41:28,793 some source of information. 830 00:41:28,896 --> 00:41:31,206 I don't think the question is 831 00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:33,000 "Why are we able to get information about the future?" 832 00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:34,793 I think the question is more like, 833 00:41:34,896 --> 00:41:37,137 "Why don't we get more information about the future?" 834 00:41:38,724 --> 00:41:41,862 A universal mind, 835 00:41:41,965 --> 00:41:44,586 all-knowing and all-encompassing. 836 00:41:44,689 --> 00:41:48,137 But do we really want to know everything 837 00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:49,379 before it happens? 838 00:41:49,482 --> 00:41:51,724 Time of our own death, perhaps? 839 00:41:51,827 --> 00:41:53,206 Or the fate of our loved ones? 840 00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:58,137 Or... how about the end of the world? 841 00:41:58,241 --> 00:42:01,655 Perhaps we're better off not knowing. 842 00:42:01,758 --> 00:42:05,275 Letting those things remain... 843 00:42:05,379 --> 00:42:07,137 the unexplained. 65940

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