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-Ladies and gentlemen,

my guest today started
this career

by blowing up the Internet
with some

of the funniest music videos
of all time.

And I do mean funniest.
You know them.

Guys, I'm talking
about "Lazy Sunday".

I'm talking about
"Dick in a Box".

I'm talking about "I'm
on a Boat" and many others.

And besides this amazing work
on "Saturday Night Live",

you also known
from his hugely popular series,

"Brooklyn Nine-Nine".

Please show some love
to Andy Samberg.

Come on, Andy. Huh?

-Yes.
-My introductions, man.

--Smooth.
They're really getting good.

-Really good.

I liked how it said stuff
I had done.

-Well, yeah. Well,
but it's not just that.

Like, I see what you did there.

-[ Laughs ]

-It's the way
that I'm talking about the stuff

that you've done.

-Like, so, if someone's
watching, they're like,

"I wasn't sure
I cared about this,

but now I'm fucking amped."

-No.
No, it's like this.

It's like,
every time I say something,

I feel
like the stakes get higher.

I'm like, "You know him.
You love him.

You've seen him here."

And each time, a person gets
closer and closer to the TV,

and by the time
I'm on the last thing...

-Yes.

-...I bring it back down
and I put on the hosting voice.

"Ladies and gentlemen,
Andy Samberg."

-So it's like a roller coaster.

-You see what I'm saying?
It starts off with the "Hey.

Come on now."
-Mm-hmm.

-"I need y'all to get focused
and get locked in."

-Right.

-And now that I got you
locked in,

you got to really dumb it down.

-Mm-hmm.

-'Cause this next guy --
You see what I'm saying?

I can do stuff like this.
You get it.

-It's hosting.
It's the roller coaster.

-Well, it's more than hosting.

I would like if you didn't,
like, put me in a box.

-I would never do that.

And you know that about me.

-Okay.

-One time -- Straight
into an anecdote.

Unprompted.
-Yes, unprompted.

-The one time
I met Matthew McConaughey,

I had just hosted an award show
that he was at.

-Okay. Okay.

-And I was like,
"Hey, nice to meet you."

He was like, "Hey,
nice to meet you."

He was like,
"I saw you host that thing.

You were good."

He's like, "Because you came out
and you were like, 'Ah!'

And then you kind of went,
'Ah-hah-hah-hah-hah.'

And at the end, you were like,
'Ah.'"

And I was like,
"That's actually, like,

a very accurate representation
of the monologue."

-I was going to say, like,
as he's doing it,

are you following the "Ahs"?
-I was.

I was like,
"And then that was the section

where I did those jokes."

-Yeah.

-"And then it got crazy at
the end, and it was one big bit

that sort of built and, like,
tied back in stuff from before."

-"Ah."
-Yeah.

And I was like, "I'm, like,
in 'The Wolf of Wall Street'."

It was great.
-Andy,

first of all, thank you
for coming on the show, man.

I believe in great conversations
being attached

with great glasses of wine.

So I'm going to ask
my somm come out here.

Come on out here, D. Mm-hmm.
That's my guy.

How are you doing, man?
-Mr. Hart. Mr. Samberg.

-What are we drinking today?

Oh, man.
-2019

Oakville Cabernet Sauvignon.

-Come on, man.

-I'd love to top you off first,
if I may?

-Yeah. I support it.

-Vodka.

-Well, it's not.
It's clearly -- It's not vodka.

It's water. It's fine.
-Tequila.

-It's not tequila,
actually.

It's just --
-It's water.

I have physical therapy
after this, yeah.

Tore the ol' ACL.

-How?
-Soccer.

-Still playing soccer?

-Well, I was.

-Actively, like,
a Sunday friends type thing?

-Please enjoy.
-I appreciate you, man.

-Thank you so much.

-Cheers. So, what?

You just getting out there
on weekends?

-Mm-hmm.

-Friends?
-Friends. Yeah.

I would curate a game.

So, you know,
it didn't get too agro.

But fun and friendly.
-How big is the group?

-Anywhere from eight to 16.

-Eight to 16?
-Yeah.

-Eight to 16 people?

Years old.
-No.

-Yeah, people.

-Eight to 16 people.
-Yeah.

-And it was a freak accident
or just like --

-I was up north playing
a different game, actually.

And yeah, my cleat stuck
and my knee exploded.

And I haven't played
since. It's been a year.

-How long has the recovery been?

-A year already.
-Okay.

That's
not actually as bad.

You know, it's a long recovery.

If you're trying
to get active again...

-Well, also, it's like,
you know, I have two kids.

-Yeah.

-So then, I'm like -- basically,

when you have kids,
you can say, like,

"Okay, I'm gonna do knee
physical therapy and my kids,

or I'm gonna do work
and be with my kids."

-Yes.
-And so I've done work.

-You said, "I'm gonna do work

and then I'm gonna be with
my kids."

How old are the kids?
-Almost seven and almost two.

-Good for you, man.

-Yeah.
-Good for you. Boy, girl?

-Girl and a boy.
-Okay. Nice.

-Oldest is what?
-Oldest is 25. What?

-Oldest is what?

Your oldest child is
a girl or boy?

-Oh, girl.
-Okay. I like the discovery.

"Uh..."

-I didn't understand the
question.

-They were, like, pop quizzes.

-I thought it was, like, you
know, like,

"Ass-wee-pay says what?"

-No, no, no, no, no.
I got, you know, four.

I did girl, boy,
then boy, girl.

So...
-Are they all happy with that?

-Well, yeah, I think so.

You know,
I'm trying to figure it out.

They're trying to figure it out.
-How old?

-My oldest is 18.

My oldest son is 16,
then it's six and three.

-Okay.
-Six and three.

-You've got nice space in
between.

-Well,
I'm on a second marriage.

-But so that the olders can help
take care of the youngers.

-Yes. Absolutely.
That's their job.

That's the meaning
of having older kids.

-And they're stoked on that,
right?

-They don't have a choice.
-Yeah, yeah.

-That's what happen in a
household.

-Yes.
-But I actually --

You know what?

They're so close in age

that they occupy themselves.

Like, I don't have to do much.

Like, you can sit them down and,

you know, give them some boxes
or some creative...

-Yes.

-...crayons, markers, or
whatever,

they're with each other
for hours.

-Yes.
That is a huge shift,

when your child can
just do things by themselves.

-Yeah.

-And like, it went from,
like, you know,

you're helicoptering all the
time

and "Don't fall off that,
don't run into that."

And then there's that moment
where you're just like,

"[Gasps]"

And the world comes back into
focus.

-It all
changes extremely fast.

-Yes.

-Let's talk about your world,

and let's talk about
how your world has changed

throughout the years.

You know,
I expressed in the beginning,

like, I love this show because
it's about giving flowers.

Anytime I get to talk to anybody
that comes from the space

and/or place of comedy, man,

it's exciting
because the journey

to get to is so different
for so many.

And yours, you know,
we start with the concept of,

you know -- I don't want to
say -- it's not just sketch

because it was more than that.

You know, Lonely Island and what
you guys did in the beginning,

it was like --

it was so crazy
because of the bandwidth

that you guys got off
of the things that hit hard.

Right? But was this
at the time --

Like, were you guys considered,
like,

a sketch group or like --

What was Lonely Island
in your mind at the time?

-Like, before we got "SNL"?

-Yes. Before.

-I mean, we were friends from
junior high and high school,

first off.

And then, you know,
we started a website

and we were doing videos on our
own and just trying to get on.

So, we had already started
making songs and videos

and stuff,
but it wasn't, like, "SNL".

It was like -- Having
videos on the Internet was new,

where you'd be like,
"You can stream a video,"

you know?

So we were, like -- We had had,
like, two pilots, like,

for, you know, attempts at
TV shows that were sketch shows.

-Okay.

-That didn't go,

but basically were
what we ended up doing on "SNL".

-Okay.
-So...

Probably should have
let us make them.

-But here's my question,
though --

How do you get the
idea?

Like, for you guys
early on,

where did the concept of,
you know,

filming the videos to put
the videos on the Internet

and hopefully get
some bandwidth come from?

-I mean, we were -- There was,
like, you know, "Stella",

like, those dudes
from "The State".

You know, Showalter and Wain
and Michael Ian Black.

They had been doing
their videos,

and we were inspired by those,
where it was,

like, completely unhinged,
buck wild, like, filthy.

So when we first started
doing our videos,

we were like,
"Oh, let's do stuff like them."

And then, kind of, by accident,
we started making the songs.

And, like, we'd go out at night

and get drunk and come home and,
like,

record songs sort of
just for fun.

-Okay.

-And then,
at one point, we were like,

"Let's shoot a video for one
of those dumb songs we did."

And as soon as we did, everyone
we knew was like, "Oh, that.

We like that."
-That's the thing.

-Yeah, so we're like, "Oh, shit,
okay, let's keep doing them."

And then, even when we got hired
on "SNL", it was not to do that.

-Yeah.

-You know, we had been writing
on the movie awards for Fallon

when he hosted,
and we met a lot of the people

that worked at the show there,

and they were like,
"You should audition,"

and even after we got hired,
they were still like,

"Let's figure out
how to do your live stuff,

Andy. Like, let's find ways to
introduce you to the audience."

And then we kind of were like,

"Oh, let's do one of those
songs."

And then the first one
we did was "Lazy Sunday".

And then they were just like,
"Make more of those.

Make more of the songs.
Do the songs."

-So in the best possible
world,

what did you guys see
the next thing being?

-I mean, for me,

specifically, my dream was "SNL"
from when I was, like,

eight years old.
That's what I wanted.

-That's so dope.

-But I had no faith
that that was going to happen.

-Why was it your dream
from eight?

Like...

-I just loved it.
I don't know why.

I mean,
I loved sketch in general.

-Okay.

-I would say, like,

when I was in elementary school
and then junior high,

I watched "SNL"
and "In Living Color".

Like, that was what I dined on,

and I would, like,
watch it once and memorize it

and regurgitate it
for everyone at school

and, like, do all the sketches
for people from memory.

And I don't know.

It was like -- I've
always really loved comedy

where the world can be
almost like a cartoon.

-Mm-hmm.

-And so that's why I loved,
like,

Mel Brooks and "Naked Gun" and,
you know,

Monty Python type stuff, too.

-Yeah, you're talking
about

the cream of the crop.

-But surrealistic too,

where it's like, "Oh, wouldn't
that be nice if the world, like,

wasn't so fucking intense

and you could just, like, do
whatever?"

-Yeah.
-You know what I mean?

There's
a moment in "Billy Madison"

where Sandler's, like, acting
like a moron and, like,

grabs the dude's hand

and just starts
biting it at the table.

You're just like, "What is
happening in this movie?"

Like, there's those moments

where when you're a kid
and you watch that or,

like, the opening of "Ace
Ventura", the first time

I saw it, where he's, like,
kicking the box.

He's like, the delivery guy
kicking the box over place

and, like, stepping on and shit.

You're like, "Why was this made?

Who let this happen?"

But for me as a kid and as a
teenager, I was like, "Oh, fuck.

It's possible.

You can do the thing
that I like,

and actually have
people really see it."

-What I'm most impressed about

is you talking about knowing
what you wanted to do

from the age eight.

-Right.
-You having mindset to say,

like, "That's the thing
that I'm going to chase

and stick with it"
is extremely impressive.

-It's definitely, I think,
a little rare.

I mean, a lot of kids are like,
"I want to be on 'SNL',"

but at that time, my parents
would be like, "Yeah, okay."

-Yeah.
-Like,

"I want to be an
astronaut", you know?

There's not that many people
that get to do that.

-Amazing conversation,

Andy, but look,
we got to stop for a second,

'cause we got to pay bills,
guys.

We'll be right back with
more "Hart to Heart" after this.

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-How was it?
-Serious.

It's like "Inside
the Actors Studio".

But, you know, posi vibes.
Everyone, take care.

-Alright, guys, welcome back.

This is still "Hart to Heart",

and we're still talking to
Andy Samberg.

I want to go now
and fast forward, you know?

The awards have presented
themselves, Fallon is there.

As a host,

the host takes a relationship
with the writers room

at some point, because
the host is going over bits.

The host is going
over monologues.

-Yes.

-When do you feel
like that relationship

kind of started
to present itself?

-With Jimmy?
-Yeah.

-Well, they did --

The year he hosted,
we wrote two of the three,

like, pre-taped pieces.

You know, I think
you have done it now, too,

and I did it eventually,
which was the greatest,

where you put yourself
in clips from the movies

that came out that year.

It's like the Billy Crystal.

-And just to say, just to
highlight, we're talking about,

like, MTV Movie Awards,
which was the biggest --

-It was a smash at that time.
-Like, it was the biggest --

When the offer came,

I thought that this was --
I was the "Oh, my God.

Like, I've made it."
It's a real staple or stamp.

-Yes.

And also, at that time,

it was before it switched to
being in, like, a massive arena.

-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

-So, it's now more become
like the VMAs,

where it's just kind of
like a crazy raucous party.

-It's a huge production.

-But before that,
it was a good room for comedy.

Like, Stiller did that pre-tape
where he was,

like, Tom Cruise's stunt double
on "Mission: Impossible".

And people still remember that

as, like, a great comedy piece
that aired on that show.

-How can I describe it?
I think it is or it was...

-Yeah.

-It was one
of the best award shows

because it centered itself
around the concept of sketch

and, like, satire, like,
that the audience wanted to see.

The audience came
into that award show, like,

looking forward to seeing
what comedian,

what comedians,
what comedic actors,

like, what personalities were
going to involve themselves in,

you know, making fun of

the business,
and it was accepted.

-It was.

It was more about the comedy

and the entertainment factor
than the award.

-Absolutely. Absolutely.
-Yes.

And so it was a very coveted job
in comedy, I think.

And then we got two
of those pieces written.

We did a "Batman" one
and a "Star Wars" one,

and they both
got picked by Jimmy.

-Wow.

-And so they did, like,
these animatics,

which is, you know,

they do storyboards and they cut
it together to show him like,

"This is basically what
it'll be."

And then he goes,
"Okay, let's shoot it,"

or "Let's change these things."

And I did the temp voice
for him.

-Okay. An impression?

-But I didn't realize
I even had it.

They were just like, "Andy,
can you do it?"

And I was like, "Oh, sure."

And I was like, "Hey, I'm in
'Star Wars'," you know?

And so they showed it to him.

He was like, "Hey,
who's that guy doing my voice?"

You know what I mean?

And they're like,
"Oh, this is this kid, Andy.

He's one of the new writers."

He was like, "Buddy, that's so
funny. He sounds just like me."

He was so fucking nice.

And I was like, "Oh, my God,
this is, like,

your dream reaction."

I mean,
we watched "SNL" every week.

We were like, "We know who the
fuck Jimmy Fallon is."

-Yeah.

-And so, from that point on,
he was like, "This is so great.

This is so funny.

Maybe more jokes here,
more jokes here,"

and we were like, "On it," and
we just started grinding on it.

And then we shot with him
and a bunch of the "SNL" people,

and we shot really late
into the night,

which we didn't realize
was basically, like, auditioning

for how "SNL" works.

-Yeah. Yeah.

-And we were there 'til, like,

3:00 or 4:00 in
the morning just pitching joke

after joke after joke.

And he later -- years later
told us,

like, "I remember that night
being like,

'These guys want it.'"

And us being like, "Is it an
option to not do that?"

-Wow.

-Like, do people check out
and go like,

"Anyways, I'm going to leave."

Like, I'm not going to try
and get in good

with everyone that I want to
work with and, like, work hard.

So, we had a great time,

and I had just done, like
a little tiny Comedy Central,

had this show called
"Premium Blend".

And I had been on that.
-Yeah.

-So they were like,
"Oh, Andy does stand up,"

and they could look at that
and go, like, "There he is."

And then we had had our pilot
and we put it online

and you could watch some
of that.

They're like, "Oh, these guys
write sketches."

-You had a bunch of receipts.

-Exactly, exactly.

And I think we were all kind of,
like -- I mean,

we were just gassed
that they chose our pieces.

-Okay.
-That's the other thing.

Like, after we got on "SNL",
people would be like,

"Could you believe it blew up
the way it did?" or whatever,

and we were like, "We
just were so grateful it aired."

Like, when you first get there,
you can't believe you're there.

So like, when people first
get on "SNL" and just kill it,

I'm always like, "God damn."

-Yeah.

-Because for most people,
you get there and you're like,

"I can't believe I'm here."

You know, it's like when, like,
a rookie quarterback goes in,

you know what I mean?

Like, "This is the NFL!"

-You also get thrown into
the process.

You know, I had Rock
on here,

and we talked about "SNL".

We just talked about,
like, the process.

We talked about the commitment.

And what happens is
you get thrown in that,

and that blender is real.

And if you're not ready,
you will get eaten up...

-Yes.
-...by the blender.

-Also, it's -- I mean, we know
now from a million examples,

some of the funniest people
in all of comedy history

didn't quite translate on "SNL"
specifically.

And you're like --
So, even going in, you're like,

"I think we're funny,

but it doesn't mean
it's going to work."

-Yeah.
-You know?

And, frankly, I don't know
how it would have gone

if we hadn't started
doing the songs.

But because we did the songs,

and it just worked out
that it clicked with the moment

where it was like, "There's
this thing called YouTube."

You know what I mean?

So all of a sudden, it was like,

"'The New York Times' just wrote
this article about YouTube,

and it's your face
with Chris Parnell."

-Yeah.

-And then all of a sudden,
everyone's like,

"I guess, these guys are
this cool new thing."

And we're like,

"I kind of feel
like we're not that different

from everyone else, but
we're just having great timing."

-Alright, wait, don't go.

Don't go into it yet.

We're talking "SNL",

and all of the bells
and whistles attached to it.

Guys, stick around,

'cause we got more Andy Samberg
and great "SNL" stories

when we come back with
"Hart to Heart".

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-Alright, you two gonna...

Good. Perfect.

Good. Big smiles. Nice.
Perfect.

Good. I love it. Done.

-This is the main bumper
in between shows.

Yes.
Yes. And it's all worth it.

[ Both laugh ]

-Welcome back to
"Hart to Heart".

I'm sitting with Andy Samberg
and the conversation is amazing.

We're talking everything
comedy,

so I can't slow you down.

Let's get back to the "SNL".

I think you look at "SNL"
in classes.

-Yeah.
-Right?

So, it's like,
within the classes,

I look at it in two ways, right?

You know, I look at it as life
in "SNL"

and then life after SNL.

Because life in "SNL"
with exposure is great.

-Mm-hmm.

-Like, if you are constantly
hitting the base hit on "SNL",

the way that I now know that
that machine is from, you know,

being a part of the pitches
with the writers.

After the pitches with
the writers, pitches with Lorne.

After the pitches with Lorne,
what's getting picked,

what's not,
what gets tossed to the side?

You got to come back every week.

If you are in the mix

and you're gaining
popularity in that machine...

-Mm-hmm.
-...that's not to be overlooked.

Like, there's a lot of work
that goes into that.

-And there's so much exposure.
-Yes.

Like, if you have a
pretty good sketch on a week

where the show's not good,

that sketch will be fucking
everywhere.

You know what I mean?
For better or for worse.

-Yeah.

-But, like, that's why you see
so many people coming out of

"SNL" working
because everyone knows them.

-Yeah.

-Like, the media machine
loves "SNL".

It's constantly helping
to promote it,

and the show is feeding
that machine at the same time.

Like, it's an institution.

So all the groundwork
has already been laid.

-Did you ever get to a point

where you felt
like "SNL" was breaking you?

Where you felt like,
"Okay, this is too much"?

Because the schedule -- I just
want to make this very clear.

-Yeah.

-It is necessary
to a certain degree

because the system --
it's proven to work.

-Yes.

-It is an incubator for
the stars of today and tomorrow,

and those stars are
behind the camera.

Those stars have a pin
to the pad.

And some of those stars
are in front of the camera.

So whatever this thing is,
it works.

It shows that.
-Yes.

-But not a lot of people
can get through that.

So, what were some
of your breaking points?

-I mean,

before we sort of started
getting going on

making the digital shorts, there
weren't as many pre-tape pieces.

-Okay.

-And part of that was
because they used to shoot film.

And part of it
was just, they were like,

"It's 'Saturday Night Live'.

It's live.
It's like, that's the show."

And then, they started
asking us to do ours every week,

whether we had an idea
we liked or not,

and which we were grateful
for most weeks.

But then after, like,
five years of that,

Kiv and Jorm both
started being like --

their contract as writers
were up,

and they started sort of --
they both sort of left,

but would come back
to help me out.

-Okay.
-But once they left --

-Was that a discussion?

-Oh, yeah. Yes.

I mean, Akiva left to do a
movie.

You know, he did that movie
"The Watch".

And Jorm is doing other stuff,
too.

He did the "MacGruber" movie,

which, you know,
is one of the funniest --

-One of the funniest
fucking movies.

One of the funniest movies.

And people who have
not seen that movie,

do yourself a favor.
Do yourself a favor.

Like,
one of the funniest movies.

-Yes.

The first time
I watched it,

I was, like, actually,
like, took a knee laughing.

No, it's --
Like, "MacGruber" --

So "Die Hart"

stems from the word
"MacGruber",

like me trying to
do,

like, the action and the crazy
thing

and having the fun
with it.

-It stems from that.
-Yeah.

-When I say "MacGruber's", pound
for pound,

one of the funniest --

-I'm with you.

-...one of the funniest
fucking movies...

-Yes.

And it looks good
and they shot it for cheap, too.

-Yes. Yes.

I got to get back to the moment
of, like, break, though.

So, you know, your team,
your partners,

they're making decisions
to do other things.

Like you said,
they're coming back,

but it's not just all
"SNL" all the time for all.

-No, no.

And I was basically left, like
in charge of making the shorts,

which I never pretended,
like, I could do without them.

So, when they left,
I was like, "Okay."

And, by the way,
incredible people came in,

you know, Jonathan Crysal,
Jake Szymanski,

my friend John Solomon.

All three of those guys
would help me,

and they would direct, and
they're all insanely talented.

And we made stuff
I'm really proud of

in those -- my last two years.

But there's something
about the songs

that I can only do with Akiva
and Jorma.

-Mm. Mm.

-It's just like -- It's just
how it is.

We're just a band in that way,
right?

-Yeah.

-Physically, it was taking,
like, a heavy toll on me,

and I got to a place
where I was like --

I hadn't slept in seven years,
basically.

-Okay.

-Because we were writing stuff
for the live show

Tuesday night all night,

then table read Wednesday,

then being told, "Now
come up with a digital short."

So write all Thursday,
all Thursday night, don't sleep.

Get up, shoot Friday,

edit all night,
Friday night, and into Saturday.

So it's basically like,
you know, four days a week,

you're not sleeping
for seven years.

-You're grounded.
-Yeah.

So I just kind of,
like, fell apart physically.

-Talk to me about
your confidence in the thing

that you wanted to develop
outside of "SNL"

and the decision to walk away
from "SNL" to pursue that.

Like, what made you feel
comfortable with it

and why did you feel
like it was time?

-It was a big choice.

For me, it was like,

"I can't
actually endure it anymore."

-Okay.

When you say "endure",

you're talking about...
-Physically and emotionally.

-Okay.

-Like, I was falling apart
in my life.

-Okay.

-And, you know, the idea of,
like -- I was like,

I knew 'cause I had talked to
Poehler and other people

that had already gone.
I was like, "Once I go,

when I have an idea,
I can't just do it."

You know, the craziest thing
about working there is

once you get going,
if you're just in the shower

and you have an idea,

that shit can be on television
in three days.

-Mm-hmm.

-Which is the most,
like, intoxicating feeling.

I can't even tell you.

And I got really addicted
to that.

I loved it.

It was so just crackly
and exciting.

So, I knew what I was giving up.

And, you know,
they told me straight up,

like, "We'd prefer
you would stay," you know?

And I was like,
"Oh, that makes it harder."

But I was like, "I think, to
get back to a feeling of, like,

mental and physical health,

I have to do it."

So I did it, and, you know,
it was a very difficult choice.

I did have things lined up,

you know? I knew
that me and Kiv and Jorm

were going to make
another album,

you know, like,
right after I left.

I had shot a movie with Sandler,
which hadn't come out yet.

And I was just kind of like,
"Even if it doesn't go as well,

like, I got to do the thing
I wanted to do."

So everything past this point
is icing.

-Okay.

-But, yeah, it was hard.
I didn't like leaving.

-Did you outsource
anyone just for the advice?

Like, you know,
"Is this too early?

Is this the right time?"
-Yeah.

-And, you know, doing that,
confide?

Like, "Yo,

I'm only thinking about this

because I'm being honest
with you.

I'm really losing myself
in this shit."

-Yes. Yes.

-"And I don't know what
the worst side of that can be."

-The craziest thing
about that was

when I would talk to people
about it,

how everyone was like, "Oh,
same."

-Wow.

-Like, no one was like,
"What?"

-Yeah.

-Everyone was like, "Oh, yes,
yes.

This is just what happens.

Like, you hit a wall.

We're not built
to operate that way."

I've always sort of likened
in being on "SNL"

to being a professional athlete

because it's
this high pressure thing.

You adrenaline goes through
the roof.

You know,
there's parallels.

You have to perform under
pressure in front of people,

blah, blah, blah.

But, you know,
I did talk to people.

I mean,
Amy really was helpful to me.

I had done a guest spot
on "Parks and Rec",

and I had seen that life.

And she was like, "It's
pretty comfortable, Samberg.

Like, I love everyone
I work with.

The hours are pretty chill.
It's funny.

Everyone's nice, you know?"

I was like,
"Yeah, I could see it."

And then that was a huge deal

that I did that guest spot
on the show

because when Mike Schur
and Dan Goor came to me

with "Brooklyn Nine-Nine,"
I was like,

"Yeah, that sounds good.
That sounds good."

-And you got a taste of it?
-Yes.

-But do you think
that you get the success

that you got off of "Brooklyn
Nine-Nine"

without going through
the hardship and wear and tear?

Exactly.
-Yes.

-So it's a weird thing
of, like,

balance and gift and curse.

-Absolutely.

I mean, you have to earn it,
right?

-Yeah.

-There's so many examples,
both for myself

and other people I know,
where when it happens too soon

and you're not ready,
it doesn't work.

Like, you have to have
the 10,000 hours or whatever

to be like,
"Okay, I know who I am,

and I know this is
how I need to play this

or else it's going to be wrong,

and it's going to put
people off."

-Now, we're
in the success of the pilot,

and you shoot the pilot.

So now you've got
another problem.

Now the next problem is,
"I shot this thing.

I walked away from this thing.

I hope
that this thing goes."

-Right.

-"I hope that this gives
me the opportunity to do."

You're not doing stand up
anymore at the time, right?

-Nope.

-You stopped doing stand up

because you couldn't do stand
up.

-'Cause I was on "SNL".

-So "SNL" took the stand up
schedule way?

-Yep.

-Because so many years passed
by,

you said, "Fuck that. I'm not
going back to that."

-Well, also, we had a record
deal, which I was like, "Fuck,

we get to make albums,"
which to me, was just more dope.

-Insane.

-I just liked it more
than stand up.

-Insane. Alright, Andy,
got to put a pin in it.

Got to put a pin in it.

I got to pay bills.

Guys we'll be right back with
more "Hart to Heart" after this.

Andy Samberg. Stick around.

-Here we go. Here we go.
Thank you, sir.

Good.

-Wink again.

Good.

-Nice.

-Welcome back to "Hart to
Heart" .

We're still talking to
Andy Samberg.

You're supposed
to record an album.

You do the pilot,
you're waiting.

Does the stress present
itself again

all over again at that point?

Or are you comfortable with,
"Whether it goes or not,

I'm going to be okay"?

-I truly mean this.

After I left "SNL", and to this
day, like -- I get stressed out.

I'll be over scheduled

or I'll think something's
going to happen, and it doesn't,

or, you know, strikes occur.
-Mm-hmm.

-But in terms of, like,
my creative fulfillment,

I'm not really worried
about it now.

-Wow.
-'Cause I did "SNL".

-Yeah.

-I didn't I didn't say
at eight years old,

like, "I want to be the biggest
movie star on Earth."

I was like,
"Man, movies, that'd be cool."

But I was like, "Movies like
'Wet Hot American Summer'

and 'Billy Madison'."
You know what I mean?

-"I want to do that thing."
-Yeah, exactly.

And so, anytime something
goes great, I'm like, "Whoo!"

And every time something goes
bad, I'm like, "Okay."

-Yeah.
-You know?

And it sounds very corny
and, like, rehearsed,

but I'm just always just like,

"I still can't believe I get to
do comedy for a living."

It's all I wanted to do.
I got to be on "SNL".

It went way better
than expected.

And, like, I go out and, like,
teenagers that were like me

who like comedy
say what's up to me.

And they go, like,
"We quote your shit."

And I go, "That's all I wanted."

-Yeah.
-We did it.

-But that doesn't sound corny.

-Well, good.

-That doesn't sound corny at
all,

because you're comfort with
knowing that

"I achieved my
goal,

but the ultimate goal is
happiness

and a choice of what
I said I want to do."

-Yeah.

-"And, like, in doing that,
I still love that.

Even through my darkest times

where I was supposed
to check out,

I didn't, I stayed with it.

And shit got funny again."
-Yes.

-"It got better again."

-Dude, by the way, I was just
talking to a friend about this.

The craziest moment
when you're a comedian,

and it happens to every comedian
who has a career, is

when something horrible
happens in your personal life

and they're like, "Action."
[ Laughs ]

And you're like, "Oh, right.

This is a job."

-"Oh, shit."
-Yes.

And, like, people are like, "And
the thing we love about you

is that you're so happy."

And you're like,
"I don't feel happy at all."

-"Like, see, today, I'm not,
actually."

-Like,
"This person I love just died."

-Yeah.
-You know?

And now I'm about to be like,
"[Speaking gibberish]",

you know?

But you do it
and you get through it

and you come out
on the other side of it,

and you go like,
"Okay, I can do that.

I know now I can do it
if I have to."

And then you go back home
and cry then.

-Well, it's the job.
You know,

you get lost in the fun,
you get lost in the idea,

but there are moments where
the job tugs on your shirt,

and it goes, "Hey,
this is work."

-Yes.
-Right?

There are times
where you don't want to go.

There are times where you
don't want to get out the bed.

You don't want to perform.

You don't want to write.

You don't want to hand in notes
and make sure

that everybody is
on the same page.

You don't want to do it.

-No.
-There are times.

-And you have to just be, like,

"Remember how you felt
before you had it.

And how many fucking
really funny people are

out there right now
that feel exactly like that."

-1,000%.

-"And if you don't show up,
they will.

And they're good."
-Yeah.

-And they're soon going to be
better than you

and more relevant
and doing newer, crazier shit."

So, like, get it
while you got it.

-What was the most
impressive thing about the space

of TV and sitcom versus
the space in live television?

Live television,
to your point, of what I know.

-Mm-hmm.

-Not answering for you,
but there's pressure.

It's live.
Everybody's got to be on.

We got to do it.
We got to go. Rush, rush, rush.

-Yes.
-"One to the clock, guys.

We only got this amount of
time."

They're pulling your hands.

"Take this off.
Put that shirt on."

It's a shit show
back there.

-Yes.

-But then you
get to sitcom,

and, you know,
the amount of people drop down.

-Mm-hmm.
-The sets are different.

The cameras are different.
-It's super chill.

-It's super, super chill.
-Yes.

-So, what was the biggest,

like -- I guess you could say,

what were your big takeaways
of this

versus that and why "I'm
just more appreciative

of my opportunity of now"?

-Mm-hmm.

-If you could compare the
things,

what were your big, like, this
versus that,

"This ain't worth that"?

-Yes.
-"I'm gonna go with this."

-I mean,
as someone who loves editing,

shooting a single camera sitcom
was a dream.

-Okay.

-Because we could you like --
"Try

six different jokes
on that line."

-Okay.

-"And then let's look at them
all later.

Now tighten it up here,

and, like, make everything feel
kind of, like, unjudgable."

-Okay.
-Right?

"We can throw jokes away
that don't hit enough,

and they seem smarter,"
you know, stuff like that.

That felt really, like,
comforting to me to be like,

"We can really control the tone
and the pace

and make sure no one's exposed."

And if there's a shot

where me or one of the cast
members is like, running,

and we look kind of wack,
you can just cut it out.

-Yeah.

-As opposed to "SNL",
where it's like,

you're getting what
you're getting. It's happening.

You know, if they cut
to the camera too soon

and the cue card guy's in there
and the boom's in, it's

fucking on the show.
-And it's funny.

-Yes, exactly, exactly.
-We'll make it work.

-That said, it's seven years
of "SNL",

eight years of "Brooklyn".

-Mm-hmm.
-"SNL" is like adrenaline hit.

It's like,
you're the hottest shit.

Everyone's coming through.

It's like the dopest thing
to do in New York on a Saturday.

I mean,
I've told this story before.

You'll be doing the dumbest
sketch you've ever thought of

and look up, and
Paul McCartney is just, like,

standing there laughing.

And you're like,
"Okay, that's Paul McCartney."

You know, like, it's just "SNL"
and it's Lorne

and it's the legacy of it, and
you get to be a part of that,

and you're touching this,
like, turbocharged legacy thing.

-Yes.

-But as discussed, that
can take its toll physically.

And then I would say the
flip side on shooting a sitcom

for eight years
is you -- especially

once you're lucky enough
to get a fan base

like we had
where they love the show

and they love the characters,

you do, you know, 20 takes
or ten takes of every scene.

So, like, for you,

every one time they've seen
you do a certain kind of joke,

you've done it, like, 50 times.

So when you're in season 6, 7,
8, you're like,

"I feel like I've
kind of done this, guys.

Like, I'm feeling
like I could use a little bit

of a new challenge, you know?"

-You're tapping
into the same bits.

You're tapping
into the same the same things.

The character is starting
to present itself

to be the character.

And that's not in a bad way.

-And ours was better than
most.

Like, the characters grew
on our show,

which I think was part
of a sort of,

like -- it was a different wave
of sitcom.

And it happened, you know,

on "Parks"
and a lot of other shows

that I think we were similar to,
which helps.

-I think the thing
that should be highlighted here,

though, eight years for a TV
show.

That's unheard of.

-Yeah.
-That's an anomaly.

Like, when you tap into this
conversation of five plus...

-Yes.

-...and you get to the seven
and above...

-Yes. T
-...the eight to ten,

those that are on 20,
like, the "Law & Orders" --

20, 25. Like,
it's unheard of.

-Yeah.
-It's unheard of.

You're in a different space
of success on television.

But the same challenges

you start to find
in entertainment are recurring.

-Yes.

-Although different,
they're the same.

-Yeah, yeah.

And we don't know if
there's gonna be shows like that

anymore now with streaming
and everything.

Like, most places,

it's cost effective to do,
like, what,

two to four seasons?
-Two, three?

-And they know they have
a certain number of fans

that love it, too.

That's what's so painful.

I mean, we got canceled
and then re-picked up.

We were on Fox,
and then we went to NBC,

which was the studio, anyway.

-Yeah.

-And that was a big story
because like --

-In, like, what period of time?

-We did five seasons,

I think, and then they were
like -- Fox was like,

"We're pulling the plug".

And NBC was like,
"Scoop", and we did three more.

And a big part of the story was,

and it was real, was
that the fan base for the show

was so vocal on social media,
being like,

"No, we love this show.
Like, you can't."

And then also, you know, like,

my buddy Seth and, like,
Mark Hamill and Lin-Manuel

and all these people
went to bat for it publicly.

And so, then all of a sudden --

It was the same thing
as the "Lazy Sunday" thing,

where I was like,

"Oh, this is interesting.
It's becoming a news story."

And, like, I remember
I was traveling that week.

It got picked up right
before upfronts,

and I was flying to upfronts,
and they were like,

people at the airport
being like,

"Hey, congrats on
NBC picking up the show."

And I was like,
"What is happening?"

Like, when did
the world get this involved in,

like, entertainment news?

But it became that,

and I think became part
of the story of the show,

and it was like
a feel good story.

-Wow.

Alright,
let's take a quick break, Andy.

We're going to go pay
some bills.

Guys, you already know
what it is.

It's great conversation.
Great wine. Great people.

We'll be back with more "Hart to
Heart" after this.

-Oldest is 25. What?

And it is mind blowing to think
about because

everybody -- like, you know,

they've seen
you do a certain kind of joke.

You've done it, like, 50 times.

So when you're in season
6, 7, 8, you're like,

"I feel like I've kind of done
this, guys.

Like, I'm feeling
like I could use a little bit

of a new challenge, you know?"

-Yeah.

-Welcome back, guys.
We are still "Hart to Heart",

and I'm still talking to
Andy Samberg.

You know what I want to ask now?

And I should have asked it
earlier, right?

Because you mentioned it,
and you said it in passing.

You said, you know, "At the time
when I was going through this,

like, the worst times,

my girlfriend was with me
who now is my wife."

-Mm-hmm.
Right?

"And my girlfriend was there

and helped me kind of just
get back to a space of good."

When you got to "Brooklyn
Nine-Nine"

and you felt
like you were in a better place,

did the relationship get better?

Did you guys, like, find
some new, like,

flooring where it was like,
"Wow.

You're different, honey"
or "You're vibrant."

Like, did you see a difference
in yourself,

and did she during that time?

-I mean, the word better
is slightly loaded, maybe,

because it was always
really great.

-Okay.
-However, me leaving "SNL"

undoubtedly made me
a better partner.

-I was going to say,
let me rephrase that.

When I'm saying better,

we're not talking in terms of
you to her, right, her to you.

I'm talking there's a change

in anyone
when there's a change in mind.

-I was way more present.

-That's what I'm saying.
-I had free time.

-Okay.

-We could go on,
like, normal dates.

Like, the schedule was
normalized, you know, et cetera.

So it was good.

I mean, she's a musician,
so, when I was on "SNL",

when we first started dating,

she'd be, like,
touring all over the world

and I'd be on
the "SNL" schedule.

And it was like, "Who knows
what real life feels like?"

You know?

And then when that sort of
calm down, it was like,

"Oh, I see, we're great.

Let's get married."

And then we did.
-So now,

okay, we're talking
successful TV show.

We're talking dream job, "SNL".

We're talking --

-Oh, yeah, that sounds nice,
the way you're saying that.

-Well, dude, we got to go,

and we got to check the boxes.

And I'm going to check the boxes
in a way that people should,

because we're talking
about an individual

who's put his mind of things

and you've actually done
the things

that you said you wanted to do.

Right? The albums that
you have made the choice to do.

All these things,
they've all worked.

Although hard
in some spaces and places,

they have proven themselves
to work.

They are all success stories.

What do you feel is next?

Like, after coming through this
and you look up

and you look at
the Hall of Fame of "SNL" --

By the way, does that exist?
Is there an "SNL" Hall of Fame?

-Like an actual, like,
organization?

-Well, they don't have
the people

that are -- Because,

look, you know all of the
cast members that were on "SNL".

-Yeah.

-But there should be
an "SNL" Hall of Fame.

And what I mean by that
is the people

that did the show and that were
able to do multiple things

after.

Like, the careers
that were built after the show.

And then after that,

you have another one with
the careers that have existed

that are still on the show.

Like, Kenan is one
of my favorite people in life.

-Same.
-Kenan

is, pound for pound,
one of the funniest,

one of the funniest.

-And has been forever.

Yes.
-He understands funny.

He is so given
with the space of funny.

And his success story
attached to "SNL" is a story

that's just for him.

Like, no one else
is going to duplicate.

-The wildest shit
about Kenan is he was there

before I got there.
Obviously, now still is.

And he still gets me.

I'll still be watching the show,
and, like, I've seen his moves.

Like, I know what he's gonna do.
-Mm-hmm.

-But it just kills me still.

And then also,
he'll do some new shit.

And I'm like, "How is this fool
still killing it so hard?"

-And he still loves it.
-Yeah, he does.

-He still loves it.

He still has an energy
attached to comedy.

He still has an energy
attached to the creativity.

-And I would challenge anyone
to go back through every episode

he's been on,

which is many, and find a moment
where he missed a laugh,

where he didn't get his laugh.

-Mm-hmm.

-Like, if you give him a laugh,
he hits it every time.

And it is mind blowing
to think about

'cause everybody -- like,
you know, the greats,

you can watch
and they'll be like,

"Ooh, they missed their cue
card" or "Ooh,

they broke,"
or, you know, whatever it is.

I literally can't think of a
single time that Kenan didn't,

like, stick it exactly.

-This is what this is
what I'm saying. Like,

the Hall of Fame for "SNL" has
to -- It has to happen.

-Yeah.

-I mean, when you look at the
NBA

and they go over the 75 greats
in the NBA...

-Right.

-...there's a lot more than 75
people that played in the NBA.

-Mm-hmm.
-Right?

There's a lot more than 50
people that have been on "SNL".

But when you just talk about
the concept attached

to the Hall of Fame or

the comedy Hall of Fame that has
come from that environment...

-Yeah.

-...if there was an opportunity
to give jackets,

if there was an opportunity to,
like, have your greats...

-Yeah.

-...and have all of that
comedy history in one room...

-I mean, the 50th is coming up.

-I just think
that it has to happen.

-Yeah.
Did you go to the 40th special?

-I went -- No.

Eddie -- That's when Eddie did
the -- When everybody was hype,

because we all thought
that Eddie was gonna,

like, do something.

Edie came out and I was like,
"Hey, man.

Thank you, man. This is great."

-Yes. He was like, "I'm here.
Bye."

-We were like, "Oh, man. You
here?"

I remember we were talking
about it.

Me, Chris, and Dave.

He was like, "Yo, you know,

Eddie's coming. Kev,
you got to go."

And I was like, "Eddie going?

Y'all think he's gonna
do something?"

"Listen, Kev, you got to get
there. Eddie's coming."

I was like,
"Is he gonna touch the stage?

Y'all think we all
can touch the stage together?"

"Kev, everybody's coming.
You got to be here.

Eddie's gonna be here. It's
gonna be the biggest thing."

And I couldn't get out of
my schedule.

And I remember tuning in,

and I watched the whole thing,
and they were like,

"Ladies and gentlemen,
Eddie Murphy."

And I'm in front of the TV.

I'm like, "Oh, my God.

Eddie's about
to do some stand up, man."

Eddie said...

[ Both laugh ]

"40 years.

Deserved."

-[ Laughing ]

-He left. Eddie! He fucking
Eddie!

-But he came back and hosted.

-He didn't come back.
He came back and hosted it.

And by the way, when he hosted,

fucking shawty was Eddie.

-He came back.

Sandler finally came back and
hosted, and that was incredible.

-Effortless.

-We watched that one just like,

"God damn,
this fool just cannot miss."

-Wow.

Andy, give me 2 seconds, not
because the conversation's bad,

because it's great,

but it's just
because we got to pay bills.

We'll be back with more
"Hart to Heart" after this.

-Go ahead and roll.

-What made you fall in love
with comedy?

-Oh, man. So many things.

I just loved it
from the very beginning.

When I was a little kid,

I just watch "SNL", "In
Loving Color", "Monty Python",

"Kids in the Hall",
you know "Pee-wee Herman",

all of it. I just immediately
loved it.

Mel Brooks. The list is
insanely long.

-Okay, welcome back, guys.
We are still "Hart to Heart",

and I'm still talking to
Andy Samberg.

All right.
Andy, who is your comedy hero?

-I don't have just one.
-Okay.

If you had a Mount Rushmore
to choose from?

-Fuck. Four?

-If you had a Mount Rushmore
to choose from?

-But is it like
a different Mount Rushmore with,

like, 20 people on it?

-No.

You got to go
four.

You got to go four.

-When I was younger,

my Mount Rushmore
would've looked different

than what it looks like now.
-Okay.

-I'll say this.

In my formative years,

like, high school, college,
it was Ferrell.

-Okay.

-Before that, was definitely
Sandler and Jim Carrey.

-Okay.

-But when I was younger,
I mean, it's like, Pee-wee.

You know what I mean?
-Okay.

By the way, that's
not a bad choice.

-Yeah.

Mel Brooks and honestly,
Eddie, at a certain point.

Like, I watched "Delirious"
100 times and memorized it.

-When you go, like -- See,
I feel like it's sectioned off.

Like, if we get to talk about
comedy, I can do this all day.

When you talk about Pee-wee, I
go Pee-wee,

I go Leslie..."Naked Gun".
-Nielsen.

-Nielsen.
I go our guy, Mr. Bean.

-Yeah.
-Okay? I go --

Although not in this
for the history of the franchise

they created, Mike Myers.
Right?

So when you're talking about --
-Dana Carvey and Mike Myers,

there's a moment
where that was it.

-Well, you're talking about --

Alright. So that's, like, one
space, right?

-Yes.

-And then you go,
like, a Jim Carrey,

who, with "Ace Ventura", can
easily fit in the conversation

of that type of comedy,

the crazy far fetched version
of the thing,

but those that do that thing
at the highest level,

well, it's a monumental.
-Oh, my God.

I mean, yes,
I mean, like I said,

in junior high,
I would've been like,

"It's just the cast of
'In Living Color'.

It's David Alan Grier,
you know, it's Jim Carrey,

it's Wayans."

It's like --
And then when I was in college,

I was like,
"It's 'Strangers with Candy'."

You know what I mean?
"It's Tenacious D.

It's 'Mr. Show'."
-Tenacious D.

-Like, Tenacious D was big for
us.

To be like, "Whoa,
Jack is crushing this.

"Like, he sounds
incredible, and I'm laughing.

-Yeah.
-And that was a turning point.

Like, I loved "Spinal Tap"
and still love "Spinal Tap".

In "Spinal Tap", I'm like,
"They did it.

They set the template
for, like, everything."

Weird Al, I loved as a kid.

I had "Eat It" on 45.

Let's put it that way.

-You're talking about comedy
history.

And the reason why I asked
you that question is just, like,

you know, I can't let
you leave just without

just saying who you look up to,

who you love,
who you appreciate.

And I'm gonna tell you
what I appreciate, man.

I don't only appreciate
you coming by.

I appreciate the honesty,
the transparency.

I appreciate you just being
open about the world of "SNL"

and the want, the urge
to be in it and being in it,

the work that it took to get to
a place of success in it,

but then realizing what it did

and having the hard decision
to make for life after,

but then figuring that out
and having success in life

after and sitting here, sitting
here, as one of the greats.

Like, when you talk about
the Hall of Fame,

I said it to say,

like, it's not just about the
success in the show,

on the show.

It's the success in writing.

It's the success
in collaborating.

It's the success in the sketch
is hitting and hitting again.

And then after that,
the success in saying,

"I want to do something else,

and I'm going to be
confident with making

that decision for me."
-Yeah.

And then doing something else

and it's actually working
and winning.

You are a testament of that,
man.

And I hope after
this, people really look at you

and just understand that there's
a lot of motherfucking, like,

real effort
that went into you getting

where you are today, man.

-Well, that is true.

-The writing rooms,
the award shows, the groups,

the music, the comedy, the
stand up comedy. As a fan of it,

I appreciate you
and I appreciate all

that you've done for the craft.

And the world is better because
of the laughs you gave it.

So don't doubt
that at any point in time, man.

-Yeah, yeah.
-Ladies and gentlemen,

Andy Samberg.

Thank you.

[ Applause ]

That's fucking great, man.

I might have a career.

-It's the most serious thing
I've ever done.

-It's fucking great.

When you get people,
the funny people to talk,

like, serious, it's great.

-The whole, I'm like, "What's
the snippet?

What's the snippet for YouTube?"

-No. No snippet. No snippet.

Come on, take this picture
I need you out of here.

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