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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:14,449 Was it, uh, Mr. Sabich's pattern... 2 00:00:14,473 --> 00:00:16,284 As day two of the trial begins, 3 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:18,244 the courtroom remains abuzz with anticipation. 4 00:00:18,268 --> 00:00:20,914 The prosecution's strong start has set the stage 5 00:00:20,938 --> 00:00:22,123 for a riveting legal battle. 6 00:00:22,147 --> 00:00:25,043 Molto's opening statement was nothing short of compelling. 7 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:27,478 With a commanding presence and unwavering conviction, 8 00:00:27,502 --> 00:00:28,546 he set the stage... 9 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:30,006 ...beyond a reasonable doubt. 10 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:33,009 Tommy Molto delivered an impassioned opening statement 11 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:35,065 that resonated with both the jury and the public. 12 00:00:35,089 --> 00:00:36,696 ...going head-to-head 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,932 against renowned defense attorney Raymond Horgan. 14 00:00:38,956 --> 00:00:41,267 ...or will Tommy Molto's captivating opening statement 15 00:00:41,291 --> 00:00:43,478 continue to resonate, securing what appears to be 16 00:00:43,502 --> 00:00:45,921 a solid foundation for the prosecution's case? 17 00:00:47,422 --> 00:00:48,966 Oh, you're a fucking asshole! 18 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,886 Doctor, can you describe what we're seeing here? 19 00:00:53,341 --> 00:00:54,489 The blunt force wounds 20 00:00:54,513 --> 00:00:57,283 that resulted in the death of the victim, Carolyn Polhemus. 21 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:59,323 Struck three times by a thin, heavy object 22 00:00:59,347 --> 00:01:01,329 resulting in laceration of the scalp, 23 00:01:01,353 --> 00:01:04,081 severe contusions, skull fractures, brain herniation. 24 00:01:04,105 --> 00:01:05,042 Herniation? 25 00:01:05,066 --> 00:01:07,460 Cranial pressure forced sections of her brain to shift, 26 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:08,461 seek an exit. 27 00:01:08,485 --> 00:01:10,672 So that's her brain seeping through the fractures? 28 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:12,799 Correct. What the photos don't show 29 00:01:12,823 --> 00:01:15,009 is that it also pushed through the foramen magnum. 30 00:01:15,033 --> 00:01:17,053 That's where the spine enters the base of the skull. 31 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:18,362 And this was the cause of death? 32 00:01:18,386 --> 00:01:19,378 It would have been, 33 00:01:19,402 --> 00:01:21,516 but she bled to death before the herniation could kill her. 34 00:01:21,540 --> 00:01:22,892 What was the estimated time of death? 35 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:25,019 Body temperature and stages of rigor and livor mortis 36 00:01:25,043 --> 00:01:26,896 put it between 10 p.m. and midnight. 37 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,274 And the markings on her face? 38 00:01:29,298 --> 00:01:30,567 They indicate a fall. 39 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,193 She was struck once on the back of the head, 40 00:01:32,217 --> 00:01:33,778 falling face forward, breaking her nose, 41 00:01:33,802 --> 00:01:36,406 thus the markings under her eyes and on her cheeks. 42 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:39,117 She was then struck two more times in the back of the skull. 43 00:01:39,141 --> 00:01:41,870 The contusion on her face occurred while she was still alive. 44 00:01:41,894 --> 00:01:43,580 The fatal blows came after. 45 00:01:43,604 --> 00:01:45,623 Is there any evidence that she tried to defend herself? 46 00:01:45,647 --> 00:01:47,709 There were no conclusive defensive wounds. 47 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:50,420 Traces of the defendant's skin were determined to be present 48 00:01:50,444 --> 00:01:52,172 under one of the victim's fingernails. 49 00:01:52,196 --> 00:01:55,466 Is it possible she scratched him as she was trying to defend herself? 50 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:58,636 It's possible. More likely, she never saw it coming. 51 00:01:58,660 --> 00:02:00,555 And you stated that the blow didn't kill her, 52 00:02:00,579 --> 00:02:03,433 - that she lay there, bleeding out? - Yes, sir. 53 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:04,976 - She suffered. - Leading. 54 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,395 - Did she suffer? - I cannot conclude that. 55 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:10,273 She was most likely unconscious from the blows to the skull. 56 00:02:10,297 --> 00:02:13,800 Can you rule out that she was conscious, that she suffered? 57 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:15,820 I cannot rule that out, no. 58 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:17,171 Doctor, do you have any other findings 59 00:02:17,195 --> 00:02:18,698 in regard to Ms. Polhemus? 60 00:02:18,722 --> 00:02:22,726 Yes. She was six weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. 61 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:25,371 Your Honor, at this time, 62 00:02:25,395 --> 00:02:28,500 I would enter the parties' joint stipulation as to the DNA analysis, 63 00:02:28,524 --> 00:02:31,836 which confirms the defendant's paternity. 64 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:33,046 So noted. 65 00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:35,048 So the defendant impregnated the victim? 66 00:02:35,072 --> 00:02:36,448 Yes, he did. 67 00:02:38,575 --> 00:02:39,576 That's all I have. 68 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:41,388 Mr. Horgan. 69 00:02:41,412 --> 00:02:44,432 Uh, the defense will not be challenging this witness, Your Honor. 70 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:47,143 - Dr. Kumagai... - Actually, I'm old and I... 71 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:50,230 ...better make sure that I didn't miss anything. 72 00:02:50,254 --> 00:02:52,732 You said, "A thin, heavy object." 73 00:02:52,756 --> 00:02:55,246 As I understand it, you make no findings 74 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:58,905 as to who swung this thin, heavy object. 75 00:02:58,929 --> 00:03:01,533 - In fact, they don't even suggest it. - Correct. 76 00:03:01,557 --> 00:03:03,368 You make no medical determinations 77 00:03:03,392 --> 00:03:05,662 as to who killed Carolyn Polhemus. 78 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:07,664 I can only state with an absolute certainty 79 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,207 that this was a homicide. 80 00:03:09,231 --> 00:03:10,566 Uh-huh. 81 00:03:11,061 --> 00:03:13,324 And no thin, heavy object 82 00:03:13,348 --> 00:03:17,150 or murder weapon of any kind has been recovered? 83 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:18,282 Correct. 84 00:03:18,895 --> 00:03:19,896 Thank you. 85 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:24,872 Mr. Molto. Redirect? 86 00:03:25,372 --> 00:03:26,372 Do not. 87 00:03:27,416 --> 00:03:28,739 We got what we needed. Move... 88 00:03:28,763 --> 00:03:31,104 Doctor, after you completed the autopsy, 89 00:03:31,128 --> 00:03:32,981 did you have chance to encounter the defendant? 90 00:03:33,005 --> 00:03:36,568 Yes, he came to our office and aggressively demanded to see the body. 91 00:03:36,592 --> 00:03:39,988 Is that typical, for a district attorney to show up like that? 92 00:03:40,012 --> 00:03:42,282 It's been known to happen, but it's certainly not routine. 93 00:03:42,306 --> 00:03:46,619 Did Mr. Sabich have a pattern of showing up to view victims? 94 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:49,247 - No. - Did Mr. Sabich ever show up 95 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:52,458 - to personally view a homicide victim? - Never. 96 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:54,711 But he showed up on this day. What was his demeanor? 97 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:58,756 - He was agitated, erratic, even scared. - Scared? 98 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:00,091 Which I didn't understand then. 99 00:04:00,115 --> 00:04:01,384 But you do now? 100 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:04,762 My sense, he didn't want to just know my findings, 101 00:04:04,786 --> 00:04:06,705 it was as if he was scared of them. 102 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:09,166 There was something off about him. 103 00:04:11,502 --> 00:04:12,503 That's all I have. 104 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:16,911 Doctor, do you have any psychological foundation 105 00:04:16,935 --> 00:04:18,817 to render behavioral diagnosis 106 00:04:18,841 --> 00:04:21,887 when it comes to agitation, fright or... 107 00:04:22,864 --> 00:04:23,949 "off"? 108 00:04:23,974 --> 00:04:25,767 I have a history with the defendant, 109 00:04:25,792 --> 00:04:29,087 one that allows me to form lay opinions based on his behavior, 110 00:04:29,112 --> 00:04:31,114 and he was acting out of the ordinary. 111 00:04:31,146 --> 00:04:33,082 You have a history with him. Are you two friends? 112 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,292 Colleagues, not friends. 113 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:37,587 Not friends. In fact, you consider my client to be an asshole. 114 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:40,405 - Objection. - Offered to show bias. 115 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:42,574 I'll allow it. 116 00:04:45,202 --> 00:04:48,598 Uh, things get heated sometimes, and I do regret calling him that. 117 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:51,583 You don't have any bias, say, against district attorneys? 118 00:04:51,917 --> 00:04:53,645 Of course not. That's preposterous. 119 00:04:53,669 --> 00:04:55,438 - You ever call me an asshole? - Objection. 120 00:04:55,462 --> 00:04:57,565 Your Honor, if there is prejudice at play here... 121 00:04:57,589 --> 00:04:58,966 Short leash. 122 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:00,675 Doctor. 123 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:04,072 Uh, you and I have gotten into it a few times as well. 124 00:05:04,096 --> 00:05:05,740 I mean, it happens in our line of work. 125 00:05:05,764 --> 00:05:08,576 It is a very contentious, high-pressure process 126 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,954 and sometimes we decompress by blowing off some steam. 127 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:14,582 But I certainly do not have a bias against prosecutors, 128 00:05:14,606 --> 00:05:16,709 and I take extreme offense to that. 129 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:18,753 Did you ever call Tommy Molto an asshole? 130 00:05:18,777 --> 00:05:20,338 - Objection. - No more than you. 131 00:05:20,362 --> 00:05:21,422 Dr. Kumagai. 132 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:23,007 Maybe this is why you didn't get reelected. 133 00:05:23,031 --> 00:05:24,509 - Doctor. - Don't quit your day job. 134 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:25,844 Oh, no, that's right. You got fired, 135 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:27,303 - right? Yeah. - Dr. Kumagai. 136 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,430 We've got to go. Head down. 137 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,461 Copy. He's in the car. 138 00:05:48,891 --> 00:05:52,436 We had what we needed. We had it, but you couldn't let it sit. 139 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,748 That's what I said... I told you. Just get Kumagai up there, 140 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,626 and, uh, get him to establish the time and cause of death 141 00:05:58,650 --> 00:06:00,545 and the paternity of the baby. 142 00:06:00,569 --> 00:06:02,881 Ah, but you couldn't just leave it there. 143 00:06:02,905 --> 00:06:07,385 And now we have an ME that comes across as an aggrieved, 144 00:06:07,409 --> 00:06:10,388 - grudge-bearing "dis-grunt." - It was important testimony. 145 00:06:10,412 --> 00:06:13,641 The Rusty Sabich that everyone knows and loves wouldn't have done this, 146 00:06:13,665 --> 00:06:16,311 so we have to establish wherever and whenever possible 147 00:06:16,335 --> 00:06:19,105 that at some point he stopped being that Rusty Sabich. 148 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:20,148 It was a net win. 149 00:06:20,172 --> 00:06:23,193 I'm gonna call this a net fucking loss. 150 00:06:23,217 --> 00:06:25,862 It's a circumstantial case that's gonna be built on bits and pieces, 151 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:28,406 the tiniest and smallest of increments. 152 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:30,717 Kumagai is just the first piece. 153 00:06:30,966 --> 00:06:33,532 Rusty Sabich was unhinged, other. 154 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:39,608 The skin under Carolyn's fingernail wasn't in the initial report. 155 00:06:40,647 --> 00:06:42,023 FSC is backlogged. 156 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:46,448 Kumagai just took a little longer with that part of the analysis. 157 00:06:49,493 --> 00:06:53,014 The forensic pathologist, he figures to be a lot tougher. 158 00:06:53,038 --> 00:06:54,432 Jeremy Buck. 159 00:06:54,456 --> 00:06:58,144 He's probably the best. He was always my go-to. Yours too, Rusty. 160 00:06:58,168 --> 00:07:00,021 He's as precise as he is graphic, 161 00:07:00,045 --> 00:07:01,952 so we think it's best 162 00:07:01,976 --> 00:07:04,275 if neither of you actually look at the photographs. 163 00:07:04,299 --> 00:07:09,412 Just straight forward, neutral, numb. Okay? 164 00:07:11,056 --> 00:07:13,284 Can we talk about body language for a sec? 165 00:07:13,308 --> 00:07:14,452 What about it? 166 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:17,163 Well... ...we didn't love what we saw today. 167 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:18,915 You guys need to look together. 168 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:21,376 The jury's going to be taking cues from you, 169 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,528 and they need to see "I love him. I believe in him" at every turn. 170 00:07:25,632 --> 00:07:28,757 And if the media, they swarm again like they did today, 171 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:32,870 maybe, Rusty, you could put your arm around Barbara and shield her. 172 00:07:35,848 --> 00:07:36,849 Barbara? 173 00:07:39,032 --> 00:07:40,158 So... 174 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:44,464 we want the jury to believe that he's my protector. 175 00:07:46,008 --> 00:07:48,969 Yeah, in a sense. In that situation. 176 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:52,139 Raymond, I... 177 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:56,435 can't claim to know your job, 178 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:59,289 but I think insulting the jury's intelligence 179 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:00,898 is not the best path. 180 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:05,903 What they're likely to see on my face is going to be shock. 181 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:08,673 My husband's on trial for a gruesome murder. 182 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:11,074 How could I be anything else but fucking shocked? 183 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:21,126 Trials often come down to storytelling. 184 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:23,962 Best version wins. 185 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:26,650 And you are part of our story here, 186 00:08:26,877 --> 00:08:29,421 and your fury isn't going to carry the day. 187 00:08:38,769 --> 00:08:41,230 It is very difficult for me to be in that room, 188 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:44,876 to have to bear witness to all the things that are gonna be said, 189 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:46,527 all the images depicted. 190 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,990 That I am there at all... 191 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:59,038 that tells the jury that I believe in my husband's innocence. 192 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:01,959 I need to be credible. 193 00:09:02,459 --> 00:09:05,212 But for me to be credible, I need to be truthful. 194 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:09,049 And that is what I will be in that room. 195 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:14,888 I will let them see my truth. 196 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:18,892 That I am horrified, that I am... 197 00:09:20,210 --> 00:09:21,420 sickened, 198 00:09:22,604 --> 00:09:25,065 that I am repulsed by such depravity, 199 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:28,926 that I am offended by the mere notion 200 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:30,529 that the father of my children could be... 201 00:09:31,965 --> 00:09:34,050 responsible for such depravity. 202 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:40,860 This is the darkest hour of my fucking life. 203 00:09:43,542 --> 00:09:45,586 I will not pretend otherwise. 204 00:09:50,299 --> 00:09:52,217 Not for you two. Not for that jury. 205 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:19,530 We found skin cells 206 00:10:19,554 --> 00:10:22,390 under the fingernails of her right hand, 207 00:10:22,414 --> 00:10:24,684 a DNA match for the defendant. 208 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:28,354 We also found traces of saliva on the victim's face 209 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:31,774 and on the collar of the shirt she had been wearing. 210 00:10:31,798 --> 00:10:33,776 DNA match for the defendant. 211 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,704 Curiously, we found no DNA whatsoever 212 00:10:36,728 --> 00:10:39,282 on the rope used to bind the body. 213 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:40,909 Why do you say "curiously"? 214 00:10:40,933 --> 00:10:42,434 It was fastidious. 215 00:10:42,904 --> 00:10:46,449 The perpetrator was careful not to leave any evidence. 216 00:10:46,563 --> 00:10:51,342 It's rare to find a scene so bloody and messy, 217 00:10:51,652 --> 00:10:56,132 yet so sterile from an evidentiary standpoint. 218 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:57,550 What does that tell you? 219 00:10:57,574 --> 00:11:02,180 That great pains were taken to clean up, to cover up. 220 00:11:02,204 --> 00:11:05,850 Based on your nearly 20 years as a forensic pathologist, 221 00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:07,727 what is your opinion about what happened? 222 00:11:07,751 --> 00:11:13,191 My opinion is we had a sudden act of murderous rage... 223 00:11:13,215 --> 00:11:14,192 unplanned... 224 00:11:14,216 --> 00:11:17,070 followed by a very meticulous, 225 00:11:17,094 --> 00:11:20,657 methodical, postmortem act of tying her up. 226 00:11:20,681 --> 00:11:22,492 That's all I have. Thank you. 227 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,245 Have you ever seen a body tied up like this before? 228 00:11:25,269 --> 00:11:30,375 I had a homicide case several years ago where the body was bound up 229 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:33,002 in an eerily similar fashion, yes. 230 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:34,765 And who was the district attorney 231 00:11:34,789 --> 00:11:37,674 in charge of prosecuting that homicide? 232 00:11:37,698 --> 00:11:41,177 There were two, Carolyn Polhemus and Rusty Sabich. 233 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:44,496 And the killer in that case, his name is Liam Reynolds. 234 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:48,217 - He was convicted. - Correct. 235 00:11:48,242 --> 00:11:49,994 Convicted by the prosecutors 236 00:11:50,019 --> 00:11:52,605 - Carolyn Polhemus and Rusty Sabich. - Correct. 237 00:11:52,671 --> 00:11:56,860 And upon being convicted by Carolyn Polhemus and Rusty Sabich, 238 00:11:56,884 --> 00:11:58,653 he threatened to get even with them. 239 00:11:58,677 --> 00:12:00,488 - Are you aware of this? - I am. 240 00:12:00,512 --> 00:12:03,836 Now, I am no expert on the science of getting even, 241 00:12:03,860 --> 00:12:05,034 but I suspect 242 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:07,328 - killing one while framing the other... - Objection. 243 00:12:07,352 --> 00:12:09,897 - ...would be very... - Sustained. Bring it up here right now. 244 00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:21,468 We discussed this. 245 00:12:21,492 --> 00:12:23,678 This office never really investigated Mr. Reynolds... 246 00:12:23,702 --> 00:12:25,346 They never investigated me, far as I know. 247 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,307 Their burden isn't to investigate everyone. 248 00:12:27,331 --> 00:12:29,976 - They have no duty to prove a negative. - He made a public threat 249 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,145 - to Carolyn and Rusty. - Yes, he made a threat... 250 00:12:32,169 --> 00:12:34,189 - I thought it important the jury know. - ...an empty one. 251 00:12:34,213 --> 00:12:36,149 - Why I should not have this... - One you will not be milking. 252 00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:37,400 ...entered into the record. 253 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:40,093 Give me something tangible and I'll let you explore it. 254 00:12:41,512 --> 00:12:44,515 Otherwise, none of your nonsense. Now step back. 255 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:59,547 Mr. Buck, you've been made aware that my client and the deceased 256 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:01,758 - were romantically intimate. - Yes. 257 00:13:01,782 --> 00:13:05,053 And when you say, "skin was found under her fingernails," 258 00:13:05,077 --> 00:13:09,015 do you mean actual skin, as in pieces of skin, 259 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:10,767 like he'd been scratched? 260 00:13:10,791 --> 00:13:14,938 No, not visible pieces of skin. Cells. 261 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:18,066 If I scratched my face like this, 262 00:13:18,090 --> 00:13:20,592 one might find skin cells under my nails? 263 00:13:20,898 --> 00:13:22,065 It's possible. 264 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:26,407 So, if Rusty Sabich kissed Carolyn Polhemus, and while kissing, 265 00:13:26,431 --> 00:13:32,330 Carolyn happened to run her fingernails along his neck or on his back, 266 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:36,835 could that not account for the traces of his saliva found on her 267 00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:41,304 and the DNA found under her fingernails? Is that not possible? 268 00:13:42,373 --> 00:13:43,458 I suppose. 269 00:13:43,483 --> 00:13:46,601 So the DNA you say suggests he killed her, 270 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,225 it could just as easily say and suggest he kissed her. 271 00:14:00,299 --> 00:14:02,134 You do get the distinction? 272 00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,649 You gotta go. 273 00:15:32,558 --> 00:15:34,677 Were you aware that the defendant and Ms. Polhemus 274 00:15:34,701 --> 00:15:35,787 were having an affair? 275 00:15:35,811 --> 00:15:38,105 - I became aware, yes. - How'd you become aware? 276 00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:42,293 Well, I had, um, various reasons to suspect. 277 00:15:42,317 --> 00:15:45,112 Um, as for when I actually knew... 278 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,508 ...I needed to drop a file off in Rusty's office. 279 00:15:48,532 --> 00:15:51,010 It was late. I thought he was gone. He wasn't. 280 00:15:51,034 --> 00:15:53,579 I walked inside. He was kissing Carolyn. Um... 281 00:15:56,123 --> 00:15:57,059 Yeah? 282 00:15:57,083 --> 00:16:01,020 - Uh, I got the, um, Roberts case. - Yeah. 283 00:16:01,044 --> 00:16:02,129 - Yeah, yeah. - Yep. 284 00:16:03,213 --> 00:16:05,400 - Thanks. Yeah. - There you go. I will see you tomorrow. 285 00:16:05,424 --> 00:16:08,027 I bolted and, uh, she followed me. 286 00:16:08,051 --> 00:16:13,700 And, um, it was incredibly embarrassing and I... I left. 287 00:16:13,724 --> 00:16:15,660 - When was this? - Last February. 288 00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:17,745 Were there any other incidences that you observed? 289 00:16:17,769 --> 00:16:20,206 Not overtly sexual, just office gossip. 290 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:24,651 But, um, I mean, sure, there were undercurrents. 291 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:27,005 Such as? 292 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:31,551 Uh, one time in the, um, underground parking lot, I saw them. 293 00:16:31,575 --> 00:16:34,637 They were... I-I think, I don't know... I think they were arguing. 294 00:16:34,661 --> 00:16:37,974 - ...together. I don't know. What? - Stay away. 295 00:16:37,998 --> 00:16:40,518 But all I'm doing is asking you a question. So if you can just... 296 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,020 That's it. Fuck's sake. 297 00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:44,731 Uh, she was in her car, he was banging on her window, 298 00:16:44,755 --> 00:16:45,691 and she sped off. 299 00:16:45,715 --> 00:16:47,066 Fuck. 300 00:16:47,090 --> 00:16:48,375 Did you have the opportunity 301 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:49,903 to discuss any of this with Mr. Sabich? 302 00:16:49,927 --> 00:16:51,220 I did. 303 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:53,615 Mm-hmm. What'd you say? 304 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:56,576 Uh... ...I told him that I... 305 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,331 that I was worried that he was, um, I don't know, losing himself. 306 00:17:01,355 --> 00:17:03,941 - Losing himself? - To her. 307 00:17:04,525 --> 00:17:08,945 He, um, was becoming a little undone, 308 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:10,696 obsessive. 309 00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:16,565 You didn't approve of this relationship 310 00:17:16,589 --> 00:17:18,640 between Mr. Sabich and Ms. Polhemus? 311 00:17:18,664 --> 00:17:20,141 - You didn't approve? - No, I didn't. 312 00:17:20,165 --> 00:17:23,018 And you didn't really approve of Carolyn Polhemus, did you? 313 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:26,380 It's not about that. It was unprofessional. 314 00:17:27,089 --> 00:17:29,234 You didn't like Carolyn, did you? 315 00:17:29,258 --> 00:17:30,777 No, I didn't. 316 00:17:30,801 --> 00:17:33,086 Did you ever report your concerns 317 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:35,532 about it being unprofessional to HR? 318 00:17:35,556 --> 00:17:37,432 I did not, no. 319 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:41,297 And to your knowledge, 320 00:17:41,321 --> 00:17:45,166 Ms. Polhemus never made a complaint to HR about Mr. Sabich? 321 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:46,233 That's correct. 322 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:51,488 To your knowledge, did she ever make a complaint to HR about anyone? 323 00:17:52,823 --> 00:17:53,824 Yes. 324 00:17:55,325 --> 00:17:56,325 Who? 325 00:17:58,303 --> 00:17:59,471 Tommy Molto. 326 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:17,931 Yeah. 327 00:18:21,047 --> 00:18:25,093 Do you have any knowledge of me acting unprofessionally or untoward 328 00:18:25,118 --> 00:18:26,693 with respect to Ms. Polhemus? 329 00:18:26,722 --> 00:18:28,960 I have no actual knowledge, no. 330 00:18:28,984 --> 00:18:31,087 And do you have any knowledge about the complaint 331 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:32,463 that was filed at human resources? 332 00:18:32,487 --> 00:18:34,479 All I know is that she didn't want to work 333 00:18:34,503 --> 00:18:35,800 on any cases with you. 334 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:38,827 She said that you gave her ick. 335 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:47,042 Okay. Did you ever witness me acting 336 00:18:47,066 --> 00:18:49,022 unprofessionally toward the victim? 337 00:18:49,046 --> 00:18:50,190 Not really. 338 00:18:50,214 --> 00:18:52,549 How about Rusty Sabich? 339 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:02,209 - Yes. - Yes. 340 00:19:02,233 --> 00:19:05,663 The defendant seemed obsessed, losing himself to her. 341 00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:07,248 That's your testimony? 342 00:19:07,272 --> 00:19:08,881 That is my testimony. 343 00:19:11,368 --> 00:19:12,786 Thank you so much. 344 00:19:32,506 --> 00:19:33,590 Mmm. Aw. 345 00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:35,968 Hey. 346 00:19:37,636 --> 00:19:38,720 It's okay. 347 00:19:42,391 --> 00:19:44,977 I almost feel sorry for him, Tommy. 348 00:19:45,644 --> 00:19:47,646 Mmm. Mmm. 349 00:19:48,647 --> 00:19:50,458 I almost did too... 350 00:19:50,482 --> 00:19:54,337 ...but then I remembered he's a fucking cockroach. 351 00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:57,614 You can't squish him. He keeps coming back. 352 00:19:59,312 --> 00:20:03,352 And he's made his points. 353 00:20:03,787 --> 00:20:05,014 You're worried. 354 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:09,477 Well, if the jury... they... sticks with the burden of proof, 355 00:20:09,501 --> 00:20:11,879 I like where we are, but... 356 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,575 ...if they need someone to pin this on, it'll be Rusty. 357 00:20:36,133 --> 00:20:37,171 You okay? 358 00:20:37,196 --> 00:20:40,240 Mmm. You okay? 359 00:20:53,712 --> 00:20:54,689 In my psych class, 360 00:20:54,713 --> 00:20:58,175 we've been reading some stuff about trauma and disassociation. 361 00:20:58,759 --> 00:21:02,030 How the brain can protect people from themselves. 362 00:21:02,054 --> 00:21:03,639 Like an involuntary... 363 00:21:05,933 --> 00:21:08,310 detachment from reality. 364 00:21:10,187 --> 00:21:11,230 You ever feel that? 365 00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:14,858 How do you mean? 366 00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:19,112 Just... 367 00:21:24,849 --> 00:21:27,478 People can disassociate from their memories. 368 00:21:29,683 --> 00:21:30,898 If it's... 369 00:21:32,774 --> 00:21:35,652 If they do something that they can't reconcile with or... 370 00:21:37,923 --> 00:21:40,050 what they perceive themselves to be... 371 00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:44,864 it can cause a disassociation. 372 00:21:44,888 --> 00:21:46,265 My memory is fine. 373 00:22:42,196 --> 00:22:43,906 Rusty, I need to talk to you. 374 00:22:51,788 --> 00:22:52,915 Okay. 375 00:22:54,385 --> 00:22:58,055 So a... a couple of months ago, um... 376 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,884 uh, around the time I got fired from the gallery, 377 00:23:04,535 --> 00:23:09,373 I started going to a bar in the day. 378 00:23:12,142 --> 00:23:13,477 And, um... 379 00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:18,106 the bar had a bartender and he... 380 00:23:19,451 --> 00:23:21,286 had a PhD in art. 381 00:23:21,311 --> 00:23:23,813 And so we got talking and, um... 382 00:23:25,781 --> 00:23:29,701 ...we actually really connected, and... 383 00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:36,732 we kissed. I kissed him. 384 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:43,090 But that was all that happened. 385 00:24:21,962 --> 00:24:25,632 It was... It was... It was just a distraction. It was... 386 00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:29,678 It was just a kiss. 387 00:24:30,898 --> 00:24:32,066 Where did it happen? 388 00:24:34,516 --> 00:24:36,101 Um, at his apartment. 389 00:24:38,418 --> 00:24:41,214 - I wanted to see his art. - At his apartment? 390 00:24:42,608 --> 00:24:44,568 - That's all. - You wanted to see his... 391 00:24:45,134 --> 00:24:46,593 piece of his art? 392 00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:48,739 Don't, Rusty. 393 00:25:00,710 --> 00:25:02,419 - Did you fuck him? - No. 394 00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:05,589 No. 395 00:25:10,228 --> 00:25:11,938 Why are you telling me this now? 396 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,934 I-I want to be honest with you. 397 00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:23,527 I thought we were being honest with each other. 398 00:25:23,607 --> 00:25:27,486 I'm on trial... for my life. 399 00:25:29,613 --> 00:25:30,614 Honest? 400 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:34,535 I know. 401 00:25:35,452 --> 00:25:38,121 You come in every day and you grind me. 402 00:25:38,652 --> 00:25:39,987 You grind me. 403 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,644 "What happened here?" "What happened there?" 404 00:25:42,668 --> 00:25:44,818 "Why didn't you tell me this about you and her?" 405 00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:46,839 Question after question. 406 00:25:47,348 --> 00:25:50,393 And when I tell you, "I'm just trying to be honest, 407 00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:52,504 I'm just trying to... 408 00:25:52,553 --> 00:25:54,364 ...tell you what happened the best I can remember it. 409 00:25:54,388 --> 00:25:58,082 I... I can't give you the reasoning all the time," 410 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:01,663 you just... You just grind me over and over again. 411 00:26:01,687 --> 00:26:03,164 - That is not fair. - Over. 412 00:26:03,188 --> 00:26:07,252 It's not fair? It's not fair, Barbara? What's fair? 413 00:26:07,276 --> 00:26:08,628 What's fair now? 414 00:26:08,652 --> 00:26:09,987 How does it feel? 415 00:26:10,487 --> 00:26:11,464 What? 416 00:26:11,488 --> 00:26:14,575 How's it feel? To make a fucking mistake? 417 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:16,535 Fuck's sake. 418 00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:21,081 - Fuck you, Rusty. - Fuck me? Fuck me? 419 00:27:58,136 --> 00:28:00,826 - I'm out. - Are my keys in the kitchen? 420 00:28:04,852 --> 00:28:06,079 Can you clean your bowls, please? 421 00:28:06,103 --> 00:28:07,288 - I will. - They're right here. 422 00:28:07,312 --> 00:28:09,999 - Don't forget your geometry homework. - It's in my bag. 423 00:28:10,023 --> 00:28:12,961 - Are you coming? - No, I'm meeting Lorraine. 424 00:28:12,985 --> 00:28:14,319 - And I'm late. - Barbara? 425 00:28:16,405 --> 00:28:17,966 Kyle, you got your lunch? 426 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:19,074 Yeah. 427 00:28:34,506 --> 00:28:37,342 I could go. I'm a good seat filler. 428 00:28:39,636 --> 00:28:44,540 Oh, honey. No, that's all right. I'm... I'm... I'm okay. Really, I'm good. 429 00:28:55,108 --> 00:28:57,235 I'm sorry if I upset you last night. 430 00:29:25,057 --> 00:29:27,285 Now, why would you tell him? 431 00:29:27,309 --> 00:29:30,038 - I don't know, Lorraine. - That was a terrible idea. 432 00:29:30,062 --> 00:29:31,146 I know. 433 00:29:32,397 --> 00:29:34,983 It's just that lately we've... 434 00:29:36,109 --> 00:29:37,236 I thought... 435 00:29:38,612 --> 00:29:41,174 I felt we were connecting again. 436 00:29:41,198 --> 00:29:42,449 - I felt... - Uh-huh. 437 00:29:44,076 --> 00:29:45,595 ...close and safe. 438 00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:47,305 - And... - Okay. 439 00:29:47,329 --> 00:29:52,060 ...the whole Clifton thing just suddenly felt so oppressive 440 00:29:52,084 --> 00:29:55,730 and... ...I needed... I just... 441 00:29:55,754 --> 00:29:57,422 Blurted it out. 442 00:29:59,383 --> 00:30:00,360 Yeah. 443 00:30:00,384 --> 00:30:02,219 And it didn't go well? 444 00:30:06,181 --> 00:30:07,182 No. 445 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,579 Which is why you are not going to court alone anymore. 446 00:30:11,603 --> 00:30:13,206 I will be there next to you. 447 00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:15,839 I'll go back, just not today. 448 00:30:17,025 --> 00:30:21,036 Today, they've got all the stuff they pulled from his computer 449 00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:22,507 and hers. 450 00:30:22,531 --> 00:30:23,550 Yeah. 451 00:30:23,574 --> 00:30:25,770 I don't think I can sit through that, 452 00:30:25,794 --> 00:30:28,304 listening to all his declarations of love... 453 00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:30,581 - Oh, God. - ...et cetera, et cetera. 454 00:30:31,707 --> 00:30:34,918 You know, the night she was killed, he texted her 30 times? 455 00:30:35,711 --> 00:30:36,712 Oh, my God. 456 00:30:37,337 --> 00:30:40,108 Honestly, I think it's the most damning part of the whole case. 457 00:30:40,132 --> 00:30:41,383 Thirty times? 458 00:30:44,261 --> 00:30:46,614 And the father has just filed for a protective order, 459 00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,658 trying to prevent his son from testifying. 460 00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:50,910 - You gotta be kidding me. - I'm denying the motion. 461 00:30:50,934 --> 00:30:52,704 But I'm mindful of where he's coming from. 462 00:30:52,728 --> 00:30:55,123 This day threatens to wreak a lot of emotional havoc 463 00:30:55,147 --> 00:30:56,833 for a kid who's already had too much. 464 00:30:56,857 --> 00:30:59,335 - He's a material witness. So... - Let me finish. 465 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,529 I'd like to spare this family any more unnecessary pain, 466 00:31:02,729 --> 00:31:05,148 whether it's unnecessary or not. 467 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:10,632 Now, this case is murder two at best and you know it. 468 00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,434 Even your own witness testified that it was likely an unplanned killing. 469 00:31:14,458 --> 00:31:15,685 You'll never get murder one. 470 00:31:15,709 --> 00:31:18,710 And my instruction won't help you up that hill. 471 00:31:19,796 --> 00:31:23,234 You walking free strikes me as a bit of a stretch as well. 472 00:31:23,258 --> 00:31:25,820 Voluntary manslaughter seems like a good place to land. 473 00:31:25,844 --> 00:31:26,970 - Not a chance. - No. 474 00:31:29,515 --> 00:31:31,034 You get a conviction. 475 00:31:31,058 --> 00:31:33,036 You get to resume your life in eight years. 476 00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:35,413 - That seems like a bargain. - I'm not accepting any conviction. 477 00:31:35,437 --> 00:31:37,832 A dismissal and an apology is the only thing that I will accept. 478 00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:41,133 Last off-ramp, boys. 479 00:31:42,903 --> 00:31:44,905 Anybody care to blink? 480 00:31:47,241 --> 00:31:49,201 Fine. 481 00:31:50,744 --> 00:31:53,997 You'll both tread with care with the boy. 482 00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:13,350 Jay? 483 00:32:21,650 --> 00:32:22,818 Hey, sweetie. 484 00:32:24,069 --> 00:32:26,738 Hey. Hey, sweetie. 485 00:32:27,698 --> 00:32:29,116 You wanna go upstairs to bed? 486 00:32:30,492 --> 00:32:32,244 - Run upstairs to bed. - Mm-mmm. 487 00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:26,340 You remember when they were... 488 00:33:27,758 --> 00:33:31,136 they were little and they would sleep, we would watch them for hours. 489 00:33:33,305 --> 00:33:34,765 Angel mode. 490 00:34:10,052 --> 00:34:11,305 Why do you stay? 491 00:34:30,696 --> 00:34:35,492 The same reason... you do. 492 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:57,830 Michael, you and I met before, where I extended my condolences. 493 00:34:57,855 --> 00:34:59,481 I'd like to do so again now. 494 00:34:59,516 --> 00:35:02,453 Both for the loss of your mother but also for the trauma 495 00:35:02,477 --> 00:35:04,747 of being here in court today. 496 00:35:04,771 --> 00:35:06,624 It's a terrible thing we're asking you to do, 497 00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:10,753 but it's because a terrible, terrible thing happened to your mother. 498 00:35:10,777 --> 00:35:11,921 Mr. Molto. 499 00:35:11,945 --> 00:35:14,186 I'd like to direct your attention to the night 500 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:15,383 that your mother was murdered. 501 00:35:15,407 --> 00:35:17,051 Can you tell me where you were? 502 00:35:17,075 --> 00:35:18,303 I had dinner at home. 503 00:35:18,327 --> 00:35:21,431 I watched some TV or something. Maybe played video games. 504 00:35:21,455 --> 00:35:23,433 I left the house later and went there. 505 00:35:23,457 --> 00:35:26,019 So just to be clear, you went from the house 506 00:35:26,043 --> 00:35:28,354 where you live with your father, Dalton Caldwell, 507 00:35:28,378 --> 00:35:31,316 and then you said you went there. Where... Where is there? 508 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:32,484 To my mother's house. 509 00:35:32,508 --> 00:35:34,235 To do what? 510 00:35:34,259 --> 00:35:36,321 My mother and I didn't get along much. 511 00:35:36,345 --> 00:35:37,596 She didn't want me around. 512 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:41,767 I was not invited. It caused me some confusion. 513 00:35:42,053 --> 00:35:45,473 And sometimes I would just go to the house to watch. 514 00:35:45,924 --> 00:35:46,956 Watch? 515 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:50,210 To see the life that she preferred that I'd not be a part of. 516 00:35:50,234 --> 00:35:53,237 Which I think I've explained all of this to you before. 517 00:35:54,238 --> 00:35:55,882 Did you go to your mother's house a lot? 518 00:35:55,906 --> 00:35:59,636 Every now and then. I don't know. Like, once or twice a month. 519 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:01,679 What would you do when you were there? 520 00:36:01,703 --> 00:36:04,307 Mainly, I'd just stare at the house from a distance in the dark 521 00:36:04,331 --> 00:36:05,791 so she wouldn't see me. 522 00:36:06,291 --> 00:36:09,562 Sometimes I would see people come in. Mostly him. 523 00:36:09,586 --> 00:36:13,650 Note that the witness has indicated the defendant, Rusty Sabich. 524 00:36:13,674 --> 00:36:14,692 I knew what they were doing. 525 00:36:14,716 --> 00:36:16,528 - Objection. - Uh, sustained. 526 00:36:16,552 --> 00:36:18,696 Just answer the questions you're asked, Michael. 527 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,449 And if at anytime you feel like you need to take a break, 528 00:36:21,473 --> 00:36:22,891 just let me know, okay? 529 00:36:23,851 --> 00:36:25,745 - Yeah. - Let's get to it. 530 00:36:25,769 --> 00:36:27,437 Okay. 531 00:36:28,413 --> 00:36:29,796 So you took these videos? 532 00:36:30,315 --> 00:36:31,316 Yes. 533 00:36:32,568 --> 00:36:33,878 June 16th. 534 00:36:33,902 --> 00:36:37,131 And can you read the time stamp at the top of the video? 535 00:36:37,155 --> 00:36:39,201 Yeah. "9:49 p.m." 536 00:36:49,543 --> 00:36:53,857 And again, was this the video you took at 9:49 p.m., 537 00:36:53,881 --> 00:36:56,258 - the night your mother was murdered? - Yes. 538 00:36:59,469 --> 00:37:02,222 Subsequent to your mother's death, you texted the defendant? 539 00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:03,658 Yes. 540 00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:04,868 What did you text him? 541 00:37:04,892 --> 00:37:07,829 I texted him, "You were there. I saw you." 542 00:37:07,853 --> 00:37:09,706 I saw you what? 543 00:37:09,730 --> 00:37:11,646 At the house when I took that video. 544 00:37:12,524 --> 00:37:14,193 Did you ask to meet with the defendant? 545 00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:16,737 - Yes. - Why did you ask to meet with him? 546 00:37:17,446 --> 00:37:20,615 Well, because I wanted to look into the eyes 547 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,093 of the man who murdered my mother. 548 00:37:22,117 --> 00:37:23,827 - Objection. - Sustained. 549 00:37:25,662 --> 00:37:26,864 So after you asked for the meeting, 550 00:37:26,888 --> 00:37:29,225 did you and the defendant in fact meet? 551 00:37:29,249 --> 00:37:31,519 - Yes. - What did you talk about? 552 00:37:31,543 --> 00:37:34,564 He... He asked me why I wanted to meet, and I told him 553 00:37:34,588 --> 00:37:36,136 because I wanted to look into the eyes 554 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,317 of the man who murdered my mother. 555 00:37:37,341 --> 00:37:38,401 Objection, Your Honor. 556 00:37:38,425 --> 00:37:42,554 Sustained. The witness is stating his opinion only. 557 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:45,825 Did you accuse the defendant of murdering your mother? 558 00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:47,935 - I did. - How did he respond? 559 00:37:49,269 --> 00:37:50,312 He denied it. 560 00:37:51,188 --> 00:37:52,499 But I could see he was lying. 561 00:37:52,523 --> 00:37:54,042 - Objection. - Sustained. 562 00:37:54,066 --> 00:37:56,377 Michael, you can state your impressions 563 00:37:56,401 --> 00:37:58,904 but please don't offer them as facts, okay? 564 00:37:59,988 --> 00:38:00,965 Yeah. 565 00:38:00,989 --> 00:38:04,636 Did you ever have a conversation with your mother about the defendant? 566 00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:06,721 Like I said, we weren't very close. 567 00:38:06,745 --> 00:38:08,598 She didn't share much. 568 00:38:08,622 --> 00:38:10,683 But about two weeks before she died, 569 00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:13,770 she told me that she was having some trouble with a man at work. 570 00:38:13,794 --> 00:38:15,730 It was my impression 571 00:38:15,754 --> 00:38:18,399 that it was the same man she was romantically involved with. 572 00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:20,133 Did she say anything else? 573 00:38:21,218 --> 00:38:22,904 That she was becoming afraid of him. 574 00:38:22,928 --> 00:38:24,823 You have any idea who that might be? 575 00:38:24,847 --> 00:38:27,530 - Objection. Speculation. - I'll allow it. 576 00:38:29,799 --> 00:38:32,218 My impression was it was the same man 577 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:34,454 - I had the impression murdered her. - Objection. 578 00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:37,106 The same man I took pictures of the night she was killed. 579 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:38,336 - Objection. - Sustained. 580 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,154 Only questions asked, Michael. Please, don't volunteer. 581 00:38:43,423 --> 00:38:45,175 Thank you, Michael. That's all I have. 582 00:38:46,696 --> 00:38:47,697 Michael. 583 00:38:51,874 --> 00:38:53,834 You have a lot of impressions, don't you? 584 00:38:54,501 --> 00:38:57,063 You have an impression that your mom was scared. 585 00:38:57,087 --> 00:39:03,069 You have an impression that it was the man that she was sleeping with 586 00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:04,487 that she was afraid of. 587 00:39:04,511 --> 00:39:06,990 Impression. That's a funny word, impression. 588 00:39:07,014 --> 00:39:08,974 Let's talk about that word for a minute. 589 00:39:10,767 --> 00:39:12,625 What does that word mean? It means... 590 00:39:13,562 --> 00:39:19,234 ...the belief or the faith in something that is unseen, 591 00:39:20,336 --> 00:39:21,587 right? 592 00:39:27,034 --> 00:39:28,035 Counsel? 593 00:39:30,161 --> 00:39:32,497 Mr. Horgan, do you have a question? 594 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,588 Ray? Ray? 595 00:39:41,924 --> 00:39:45,074 - Ray? Ray? Ray, Ray, Ray? - I'm his wife. I'm his wife. 596 00:40:23,173 --> 00:40:24,859 - Still no pulse. - Again. 597 00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:26,277 Ready? 598 00:40:26,301 --> 00:40:28,696 - Three, two, one, clear. - It's okay. It's okay. 45990

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