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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,834 --> 00:00:18,125 -Jerrod Carmichael: All right, you ready? -Joliet Carmichael: Yeah. 2 00:00:18,208 --> 00:00:19,583 Jerrod: On your mark... 3 00:00:19,667 --> 00:00:21,458 -I'm gonna win. -Joliet: No, you're not. 4 00:00:21,542 --> 00:00:23,458 -Jerrod: On your mark... -Valencia Carmichael: Let's go. 5 00:00:23,542 --> 00:00:26,041 Jerrod: Get set... Go! 6 00:00:26,125 --> 00:00:29,250 (Jerrod laughing) 7 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:32,166 Jerrod: Oh, oh, oh! Wait! (laughing) 8 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:33,667 (laughing) 9 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:37,125 Valencia: Come on, buddy. Go, buddy, go, buddy, go! 10 00:00:37,208 --> 00:00:40,875 Jerrod: I still win. Did I win? 11 00:00:40,959 --> 00:00:45,667 I won? (laughs) You saw that, right? 12 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:47,917 Valencia: Who won, Lourdon? 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,875 Jerrod: I won. 14 00:00:50,917 --> 00:00:53,542 Joliet: I was so close, he knows. 15 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:55,291 -Jerrod: Yeah. -Valencia: Yeah, you was... 16 00:00:55,375 --> 00:00:58,125 (piano playing slow, bright jazz melody) 17 00:01:01,542 --> 00:01:03,583 ♪ ♪ 18 00:01:11,542 --> 00:01:15,709 ♪ ♪ 19 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,083 ♪ ♪ 20 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:44,083 Um, what have you been up to? 21 00:01:44,166 --> 00:01:46,208 Wait. You got out of school early today? 22 00:01:46,291 --> 00:01:48,208 -Joliet: Yeah. -Yeah? 23 00:01:48,291 --> 00:01:49,458 Mm-hmm. 24 00:01:49,542 --> 00:01:51,709 'Cause, wait. Well, you like school, though. 25 00:01:51,792 --> 00:01:55,000 -Joliet: Yes. -(laughs) 26 00:01:55,083 --> 00:01:58,875 -Like, you love it, though. -Yeah, I love it since I was, like, 27 00:01:58,959 --> 00:02:02,166 first going to kindergarten, so, like... you know. 28 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:05,875 -I-I love school. -But, like, why? 29 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,583 I mean, I think it's just joy of, like-- 30 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:11,667 Some people don't like waking up early. I love routine. 31 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:14,083 Like my mom's always had me on a routine, 32 00:02:14,166 --> 00:02:17,667 so like, I think it just comes natural to me, like... 33 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:22,208 I love to go to school and like have friends. 34 00:02:22,291 --> 00:02:26,917 -And have school to do, and-- -Jerrod: You like the social aspect of it? 35 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,959 Yeah. I-I-I like that, too, yeah. 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,709 (rap music playing in background) 37 00:02:32,792 --> 00:02:35,375 Who do you-- Do you look up 38 00:02:35,458 --> 00:02:37,792 -to anyone? Who do you look up to? -No. 39 00:02:37,875 --> 00:02:39,875 Um, well, I... 40 00:02:39,959 --> 00:02:42,166 I see people as role models, 41 00:02:42,250 --> 00:02:44,625 but I mean, well, if I had to put someone to look up to, 42 00:02:44,709 --> 00:02:47,959 -it would probably be my mom. So, yeah. -Mm. 43 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:51,041 -She's a really strong person to me, definitely. -She's cool. 44 00:02:51,125 --> 00:02:53,125 -Yeah. -Why do you look up to your mom? 45 00:02:53,208 --> 00:02:55,750 Oh, because there's so many things about my mom 46 00:02:55,834 --> 00:02:58,250 that I look to-- look up to her about. 47 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:02,709 Um, I think that, um, her having... 48 00:03:02,792 --> 00:03:05,959 um, just the family that she's created. 49 00:03:06,041 --> 00:03:08,333 I feel like I've been raised well. 50 00:03:08,417 --> 00:03:10,542 All my other siblings have been raised well. 51 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:12,875 Um, I just think that... 52 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:15,125 when she tells me more about herself, 53 00:03:15,208 --> 00:03:18,625 and how she felt like she wasn't smart at first, 54 00:03:18,709 --> 00:03:21,542 but now she's like the best teacher I know. 55 00:03:21,625 --> 00:03:25,542 Um, I just think that like everything she tells me, 56 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:29,000 is like a life lesson that I should learn. 57 00:03:29,083 --> 00:03:31,333 And it just makes me feel-- 58 00:03:31,417 --> 00:03:34,625 She makes me feel happy, and just looking at her... 59 00:03:34,709 --> 00:03:38,333 being a strong black woman with five children. 60 00:03:38,417 --> 00:03:40,333 Do you feel accepted by everyone? 61 00:03:40,417 --> 00:03:42,500 Do you feel accepted by white people? 62 00:03:42,583 --> 00:03:45,667 Do you feel accepted by other races? 63 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:48,667 Um, well, let's see. Uh... 64 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:52,500 Most of my friends are black or mixed, 65 00:03:52,583 --> 00:03:57,000 and I hang out with more black people, I feel like. 66 00:03:57,083 --> 00:04:00,917 -Why? -I feel like I just... 67 00:04:02,667 --> 00:04:04,583 I feel like their personality-- 68 00:04:04,667 --> 00:04:08,500 I go to a really artsy school, but I feel like their personality 69 00:04:08,583 --> 00:04:12,583 just really makes me feel... welcome. 70 00:04:12,667 --> 00:04:16,041 You know, like sometimes with white people, 71 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:21,208 I don't always-- I-I feel accepted, but it's almost like... 72 00:04:21,291 --> 00:04:23,542 they're trying really hard to accept me. 73 00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:28,083 I feel like sometimes with black people... they just accept me. 74 00:04:28,125 --> 00:04:32,083 Do you ever see somebody on TV and identify, like-- 75 00:04:32,166 --> 00:04:35,250 go like, "Oh. They kind of represent me." 76 00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:38,500 Like, do you feel like represented? 77 00:04:39,375 --> 00:04:43,208 -Like in what they wear or what they do? -You see, like, uh... 78 00:04:43,291 --> 00:04:47,333 Just who they are. Like do you ever see someone like in... 79 00:04:47,417 --> 00:04:50,458 not just on television but like in politics 80 00:04:50,542 --> 00:04:52,792 or in the world, or whatever that like-- 81 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:55,625 I asked about role models, but I guess 82 00:04:55,709 --> 00:04:58,375 it's somewhat different when I'm asking, do you identify, 83 00:04:58,458 --> 00:05:00,542 or do you see yourself in someone, 84 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:03,166 like on television, ever. 85 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:04,709 -No. -Really? 86 00:05:04,792 --> 00:05:08,041 -Uh-uh. -Oh, I know what I meant to ask you, though. 87 00:05:08,125 --> 00:05:11,291 What's the secret of being happy? 88 00:05:14,291 --> 00:05:16,500 Um... 89 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:21,250 Probably believing in yourself, and... 90 00:05:21,333 --> 00:05:24,417 always having God with you. 91 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:27,959 And just being confident in what you have. 92 00:05:28,041 --> 00:05:31,083 That's-- that's mainly it. Yeah. 93 00:05:31,166 --> 00:05:34,625 You just really have to be with yourself 94 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:37,000 and not with the world, you know? 95 00:05:37,083 --> 00:05:40,333 You have to know what you want, not what everyone else wants. 96 00:05:40,417 --> 00:05:42,166 Who the fuck are you? 97 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:46,000 -Joliet Shania Carmichael. -(laughing) 98 00:05:46,083 --> 00:05:48,625 Jerrod: Yeah, do-- Oh, that's tight. 99 00:05:48,709 --> 00:05:50,917 Joliet: Can you do it? 100 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:54,750 -Jerrod: Oh! -(laughing) 101 00:05:54,834 --> 00:05:57,333 -Jerrod: For real this time. Stand on that side... -Okay. 102 00:05:57,417 --> 00:05:58,917 ...so you can see it. 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,250 -I want you to like get a good view of it. -Yeah. 104 00:06:03,709 --> 00:06:05,333 All right. 105 00:06:05,917 --> 00:06:07,959 -(yells) Oh! It was almost there! -Oh! 106 00:06:08,041 --> 00:06:10,375 -I was almost there. -You need to land on your feet. 107 00:06:10,458 --> 00:06:13,834 Joliet: Stand up. Do you need help? 108 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,583 (Jerrod laughs) 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,875 Child: Whoa! Whoa! 110 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:25,750 (children giggling) 111 00:06:27,917 --> 00:06:29,959 ♪ ♪ 112 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:37,333 -You sure you don't want any? -(laughs) No. I do not. No. 113 00:06:37,417 --> 00:06:40,625 You don't like me drinking rosé out of your children's "Dream Big" cup? 114 00:06:40,709 --> 00:06:43,834 No, it's awful, actually. I don't like it. 115 00:06:43,917 --> 00:06:48,083 -A little rosé and... -You could have just picked a nice plastic cup. 116 00:06:48,166 --> 00:06:50,542 No, 'cause I like Snoopy. 117 00:06:50,625 --> 00:06:54,667 -You still been on your, uh-- -I would have drawn Snoopy on there for you. 118 00:06:54,750 --> 00:06:59,166 You still been on your, uh-- pro-black, pro-woman shit? 119 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:03,583 Or is-- Are you off that this week? 120 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:06,333 I'm not sure if that's what I would call it. 121 00:07:06,417 --> 00:07:08,291 You've been going hard on the whole thing. 122 00:07:08,375 --> 00:07:12,125 We've had, uh, all these arguments on representation. 123 00:07:13,583 --> 00:07:16,375 That's because you like to confront me with things 124 00:07:16,458 --> 00:07:19,041 that you know I feel strongly about. 125 00:07:19,125 --> 00:07:21,542 -No, no, I think I like to-- -Yes, you do. 126 00:07:21,625 --> 00:07:23,917 What-- what did I say that pissed you off last time? 127 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,375 It's, um... it's, you know, every day that you call. 128 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:29,291 But I'm just saying, 'cause you been... 129 00:07:29,375 --> 00:07:34,625 Where we don't overlap is you always are saying, support, no matter what. 130 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,083 No, I just believe in solidarity. 131 00:07:39,208 --> 00:07:42,500 I don't believe in support no matter-- no, no, no. 132 00:07:42,583 --> 00:07:48,000 I just feel like black women as a whole get enough criticism, 133 00:07:48,083 --> 00:07:50,875 so, I don't need you to add to it. 134 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:53,500 Okay. Fair enough. But in-- 135 00:07:53,583 --> 00:07:56,917 in art and like entertainment and stuff, 136 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,291 we're not supposed to just pretend that like everything's good. 137 00:08:02,375 --> 00:08:07,250 -Right? Like, are we-- -Now that's the difference. I don't pretend. I am-- 138 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:11,875 I'm very authentic in what I believe, and I'm true to what I believe. 139 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:15,917 It just doesn't always fit with your beliefs. 140 00:08:18,458 --> 00:08:20,166 Jerrod: You want to try? 141 00:08:24,542 --> 00:08:26,792 (Jerrod laughs) 142 00:08:26,875 --> 00:08:30,917 You've gotta blow harder, but not too hard. 143 00:08:32,917 --> 00:08:39,000 Do you teach your children, uh, a certain awareness about race? 144 00:08:39,083 --> 00:08:41,166 Yeah, I'm extremely honest with them, 145 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:43,166 because I feel like I don't have a choice. 146 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:45,166 What do you say to them? 147 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:48,500 I make sure that my son knows that... 148 00:08:48,583 --> 00:08:53,542 there are certain instances and certain circumstances that you may be in 149 00:08:53,625 --> 00:08:58,667 that will require you to think quick on your feet. 150 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:04,041 And, um, not to live in fear, but to know that there are certain situations 151 00:09:04,125 --> 00:09:05,834 that you may be placed in, 152 00:09:05,917 --> 00:09:09,834 that people are going to judge you because you are black. 153 00:09:09,917 --> 00:09:12,875 Because children white or black don't know it's a difference 154 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:14,959 until someone makes them aware. 155 00:09:15,041 --> 00:09:19,583 -Jerrod: Mm-hmm. -Valencia: And so at that point, it is my responsibility 156 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:23,875 Because to me, this is more than just-- this is my child's life. 157 00:09:23,959 --> 00:09:27,583 So at that point it is-- it is a difference between, like, 158 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:31,041 oh, I just need to shed light on this because it's a noose 159 00:09:31,125 --> 00:09:32,792 or because it's a hashtag. 160 00:09:32,875 --> 00:09:36,917 This is my son's life. This is my daughter's life. 161 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,041 So I have to have conversations with her about... about rape, 162 00:09:42,125 --> 00:09:44,625 about being in certain circumstances, 163 00:09:44,709 --> 00:09:47,250 about how she dresses, how she walks, 164 00:09:47,333 --> 00:09:50,542 how her hair is, how people may talk to her. 165 00:09:50,625 --> 00:09:53,000 I... I have to have those conversations. 166 00:09:53,083 --> 00:09:57,500 I don't have the luxury to just wait until something happens. 167 00:09:57,583 --> 00:10:02,750 Jerrod: So, okay. It's the... black women not feeling included. 168 00:10:02,834 --> 00:10:05,417 What do we do to help? What do I do? 169 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:08,625 Like what's the... what's the answer? 170 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:12,375 'Cause it seems like a feeling, and it's hard to help a feeling. 171 00:10:12,458 --> 00:10:15,333 You know what I mean, like, it seems like a... 172 00:10:15,417 --> 00:10:17,709 You know, it's a valid feeling, 173 00:10:17,792 --> 00:10:20,208 but it's hard to know how to contribute 174 00:10:20,291 --> 00:10:23,083 to just feelings. 175 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:25,542 One thing-- And it's actions. 176 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:29,333 But one thing I do appreciate and I value 177 00:10:29,417 --> 00:10:31,917 is this conversation. 178 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,458 Because many times the conversation is just left on deaf ears 179 00:10:35,542 --> 00:10:37,333 and nobody does anything about it. 180 00:10:37,417 --> 00:10:40,375 But I feel like this is more than social move-- 181 00:10:40,458 --> 00:10:43,041 social media is more than a movement. 182 00:10:43,125 --> 00:10:45,250 This is actually real life 183 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:47,208 in the fact that you as a black male 184 00:10:47,291 --> 00:10:50,291 wants to listen to black women. 185 00:10:50,375 --> 00:10:52,250 That's the start. 186 00:10:52,333 --> 00:10:55,875 I mean, I gotta listen. Y'all are a goddamn lot. 187 00:10:55,959 --> 00:10:58,125 -You right. You do have to listen. -(laughing) 188 00:10:58,208 --> 00:11:00,208 -We don't give you a choice. -It ain't like I have a choice. 189 00:11:00,291 --> 00:11:02,792 -We aren't giving you a choice. -(both laughing) 190 00:11:02,875 --> 00:11:04,875 You're around the numbers, you have four nieces. 191 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:07,375 Yeah, I'm surrounded by like-- What am I gonna do, not listen? 192 00:11:07,458 --> 00:11:10,625 -You don't have a choice. -That's why-- That's why I fuck with y'all. 193 00:11:10,709 --> 00:11:12,792 You got to. Somebody got to. 194 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:15,375 -Everybody's scared. -That's why-- That's why we fuck with you. 195 00:11:15,458 --> 00:11:18,333 -Okay. -Ha! How about that? (laughing) 196 00:11:18,417 --> 00:11:21,750 ♪ ♪ 197 00:11:26,125 --> 00:11:28,125 -Jerrod: This is a real question. -Tiffany Gladney: Okay. 198 00:11:28,208 --> 00:11:29,917 -Real question. -Okay. 199 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,458 -All right. I bring home a white girl. -Okay. 200 00:11:33,542 --> 00:11:35,792 What's-- What was that? 201 00:11:35,875 --> 00:11:38,375 -I had to sneeze. -Is that what that was? 202 00:11:38,458 --> 00:11:39,709 Mm-hmm. 203 00:11:39,792 --> 00:11:41,792 -Jerrod: You want me to finish the question? -Yes. 204 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:47,041 -If bring home a white girl, introduce her to you first... -Uh-huh. 205 00:11:47,125 --> 00:11:49,709 -...since you gotta sneeze, what's your... -(laughter) 206 00:11:49,792 --> 00:11:53,250 ...what's your reaction to me after we leave? 207 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:55,625 -Mm. That's my re-- -Like what do you text me? 208 00:11:55,709 --> 00:11:58,291 -No, I'm not gonna text you. -What do you mean, you're not gonna text me? 209 00:11:58,375 --> 00:12:00,208 Not gonna text you. I'm gonna have to process it. 210 00:12:00,291 --> 00:12:02,375 -(Jessica Muouzon laughs) -Jerrod: What's there to process? 211 00:12:02,458 --> 00:12:05,542 I just really want you to celebrate and embrace black love. 212 00:12:05,625 --> 00:12:09,250 Does that mean that I don't if I did marry a-- 213 00:12:09,333 --> 00:12:11,792 -or dated or whatever? -But if you did embrace black love, 214 00:12:11,875 --> 00:12:14,375 wouldn't you have a black partner? 215 00:12:14,458 --> 00:12:17,250 -Yeah, I mean, I also-- -Like how can you embrace black love 216 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:19,166 and have a non-black partner? 217 00:12:19,250 --> 00:12:21,458 -Didn't we have this debate? -Avery McLemore: We did. 218 00:12:21,542 --> 00:12:23,041 Tiffany: And Jess was... 219 00:12:23,083 --> 00:12:25,041 -I'm the one who's on the outside of this. -Tiffany: Yeah. 220 00:12:25,125 --> 00:12:28,458 -Jerrod: You can-- you can embrace without being involved. -Can you? 221 00:12:28,542 --> 00:12:30,000 -Jessica: Yes. -Jerrod: Yeah. Yeah, of course. I embrace-- 222 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,125 I think all the damned whales in the ocean 223 00:12:32,208 --> 00:12:33,792 should be out there livin' free lives. 224 00:12:33,875 --> 00:12:36,291 That don't mean I'm jumpin' my black ass out there with 'em. 225 00:12:36,375 --> 00:12:38,000 (all laughing) 226 00:12:38,083 --> 00:12:40,959 Jerrod: Wait, but y'all all saw the R. Kelly doc? 227 00:12:41,041 --> 00:12:44,000 -Yes. Yes. We did see it. -Aw, hell. 228 00:12:44,083 --> 00:12:46,792 -And... -Wait. You had a-- what? 229 00:12:46,875 --> 00:12:51,375 I have a, um, funny but sad story and y'all will relate to me on this. 230 00:12:51,458 --> 00:12:53,250 Bitch, don't be puttin' me in that category. 231 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:56,291 -I'm not trying to agree with that until I hear the story. -No, no, no. 232 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,500 -It has nothing to do with agreeing with R. Kelly. -I'm with you, Avery. 233 00:12:58,583 --> 00:13:00,375 -I'm with you, Avery. -It could be insane. 234 00:13:00,458 --> 00:13:03,166 You know I don't agree with R. Kelly. Don't-- 235 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:04,625 Jessica: I need to know what y'all position-- 236 00:13:04,709 --> 00:13:07,125 -Don't put me on there like that. -(laughing) 237 00:13:07,208 --> 00:13:09,917 R. Kelly makes my blood boil like he makes 238 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,500 the soul of me want to die, but no. 239 00:13:12,583 --> 00:13:14,917 You know how hard it is to get your hair done. 240 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,500 -Tiffany: Yes. -Okay. 241 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:18,709 Went to get my hair done. Isn't it cute? 242 00:13:18,792 --> 00:13:20,166 -Tiffany: Yes. -Jessica: Mm-hmm. I like the jet black. 243 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:22,291 -She did it perfectly. -Tiffany: Okay. 244 00:13:22,375 --> 00:13:25,667 Just sitting there, minding my business, eating my food, getting my hair done. 245 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:30,500 "Yeah, girl, 'cause you know, all I do is listen to R. Kelly. 246 00:13:30,583 --> 00:13:33,625 "R. Kelly, Anita Baker, girl. Yada-yada-yada-ya." 247 00:13:33,709 --> 00:13:37,709 Proceeds, proceeds, proceeds, and I'm just like... (sighs) 248 00:13:37,792 --> 00:13:40,500 And did you feel like you needed to leave? 249 00:13:40,583 --> 00:13:43,834 -No. She had curlers on my neck, so... -(all laughing) 250 00:13:43,917 --> 00:13:48,667 -Jessica: Priorities! -Avery: No. I sat there and ate my food. 251 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:52,000 Jerrod: So you'll boycott R. Kelly, but you won't boycott 252 00:13:52,083 --> 00:13:54,041 the women who won't boycott R. Kelly. 253 00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:57,000 No, but I feel like I will, though. I don't know if I'm gonna go back. 254 00:13:57,083 --> 00:14:00,709 If it comes on, "Step in the Name of Love" comes on, you at your aunt's house, 255 00:14:00,792 --> 00:14:02,583 -you're not steppin'? -Tiffany: I'm a fighter. 256 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,667 -You gonna fight it? -Tiffany: I'm a fighter. 257 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:08,000 -I don't have to fight it. -And then I might just tap my toe under the table. 258 00:14:08,083 --> 00:14:10,041 -I mean, here's the thing. -Jessica: I'm gonna do it. 259 00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:13,291 -Jerrod: You gonna step? -Jessica: I'm gonna do it. I still love "Sex in the Kitchen." 260 00:14:13,375 --> 00:14:16,875 -Like, you can't tell me, it's like... -(all laughing) 261 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:19,291 -Jerrod: There was a-- -"On your tippy-toes"? (laughing) 262 00:14:19,375 --> 00:14:22,917 Jerrod: Well, it's funny 'cause his-- his, uh, his music, 263 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,625 like, sales went up, after the-- 264 00:14:25,709 --> 00:14:28,333 -Avery: I think that was from curiosity-- -But no, no, no. It's-- 265 00:14:28,417 --> 00:14:31,667 It's from-- 'Cause it happened to me. I was watching-- 266 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:34,250 I'm watching the doc and all of a sudden you just get reminded 267 00:14:34,333 --> 00:14:37,834 through these videos of like-- "Oh, I don't have 'Ignition Remix.' 268 00:14:37,917 --> 00:14:39,875 "Let me add it before they take it away." 269 00:14:39,959 --> 00:14:44,000 -No, I think it was-- Right. Avery: I think people wanted to hear it in the music. 270 00:14:46,166 --> 00:14:48,583 Jerrod: Bria, would you still listen to R. Kelly? 271 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:52,375 -Bria Carter: Yes. -(Jessica, Avery laughing) 272 00:14:52,458 --> 00:14:54,709 -Bria: To a certain extent. -Avery: Come on, Bria. 273 00:14:54,792 --> 00:14:57,792 -Bria: I would not, I would not--- -Wait. Come here. 274 00:14:57,875 --> 00:15:01,250 I wouldn't just play R. Kelly just openly all the time. 275 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:03,542 Just because I feel like it might... 276 00:15:03,625 --> 00:15:05,583 -It might-- it might-- -Damage us. 277 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:09,750 -Yeah, just as a whole. -Jerrod: So you wouldn't play to not offend someone else? 278 00:15:09,834 --> 00:15:12,625 Bria: Um, potentially, yeah. Maybe not... 279 00:15:12,709 --> 00:15:14,959 It wouldn't be my first pick if I'm the D.J. 280 00:15:15,041 --> 00:15:18,250 -Jerrod: It's all gone. -Jessica: Yeah. I mean, if I need to, 281 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:22,291 I can go get an extra bottle of wine from my white mama across the street. 282 00:15:22,375 --> 00:15:24,834 We can-- we can switch. I'll switch to-- 283 00:15:24,917 --> 00:15:27,500 I'll switch to the number one prosecco in Italy. 284 00:15:27,583 --> 00:15:30,834 (all laughing) 285 00:15:30,917 --> 00:15:32,291 Jerrod: I didn't know it was the-- 286 00:15:32,375 --> 00:15:34,166 I didn't know it was the number one prosecco in Italy. 287 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,583 Jessica: But that's what it had on there. 288 00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:39,667 The standard of even how you present yourself in the room, 289 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:42,291 -how you dress, matters. -Jerrod: Mm-hmm. 290 00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:46,500 Like a white, blond lobbyist can walk in with a short skirt on, 291 00:15:46,583 --> 00:15:48,208 -as tight as hell, -Jerrod: Yeah. 292 00:15:48,291 --> 00:15:51,750 She come twiddling her little ass through the, uh, committee room, 293 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:54,291 -and, "Hi, how are you? Hi. Yes. Nice to--" -Jerrod: Yeah. 294 00:15:54,375 --> 00:15:59,125 Let my black ass walk up in there with a skirt on that's too tight... 295 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:01,375 Avery: You get all the-- You're the Jezebel. 296 00:16:01,458 --> 00:16:04,041 -Jerrod: Here's the-- -Tiffany: I am the Jezebel of the general... 297 00:16:04,125 --> 00:16:07,000 -(laughing) -You sucked dick to get to where you at. 298 00:16:07,083 --> 00:16:08,959 -Jessica: Right! -But here's the question, though. 299 00:16:09,041 --> 00:16:11,208 Tiffany: It's like these unspoken standards. 300 00:16:11,291 --> 00:16:14,291 Like would you say, and this is-- I'm gonna get killed for this-- 301 00:16:14,375 --> 00:16:17,333 -You want a cup for that? -Yeah. Your dad don't care if I drink his Crown Royal? 302 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:18,917 No, I got that from my white mama. 303 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,041 Would you argue, though, that black women's body type 304 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:25,417 -just naturally draws more attention in that same skirt. -Jessica: Sometimes. 305 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:27,917 -Jessica: Sometimes. -That same skirt on a black girl, 306 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,417 on, like a different body type is just like, oh, shit. 307 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:34,000 It does, but it does for all the wrong reasons, 308 00:16:34,083 --> 00:16:37,709 because historically, black bodies have been over-sexualized. 309 00:16:37,792 --> 00:16:40,500 I just dealt with this issue with a dance team of mine. 310 00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:44,333 The girls on the volleyball squad at my school can wear spandex, 311 00:16:44,417 --> 00:16:47,458 and they're predominantly white girls, can wear spandex, 312 00:16:47,542 --> 00:16:50,125 and just be out there having the best time of their life. 313 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:54,166 My black girls wear shorts, and their whole dance team has been shut down. 314 00:16:54,250 --> 00:16:58,166 -They shut down the team? -The whole team, because it was provocative and sexual. 315 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:03,375 What is it about black bodies that are ins-- innately sexual? 316 00:17:03,458 --> 00:17:06,375 -Like where does that come from? It comes from fucking slavery. -Yeah. Yeah. 317 00:17:06,458 --> 00:17:10,208 From the idea that black women are either going to be a mammy, 318 00:17:10,291 --> 00:17:13,375 or they're going to be the Sapphire character. 319 00:17:13,458 --> 00:17:16,625 ♪ ♪ 320 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:27,875 ♪ ♪ 321 00:17:32,542 --> 00:17:36,458 Make a cake. You wanna say cake? Let's make a cake. 322 00:17:36,542 --> 00:17:38,583 ♪ ♪ 323 00:17:42,208 --> 00:17:45,000 All right. Make us a cake? 324 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:48,000 Yeah. 325 00:17:48,083 --> 00:17:51,375 Can you help me? Can you help me? Yes. 326 00:17:52,583 --> 00:17:55,208 (phone ringing) 327 00:17:58,291 --> 00:18:00,166 (phone ringing) 328 00:18:01,041 --> 00:18:04,041 -Who was that? -I didn't look at the phone. 329 00:18:04,125 --> 00:18:06,542 -(phone ringing) -No. Do you care? 330 00:18:07,208 --> 00:18:10,792 -(both laughing) -You don't answer the phone sometimes. 331 00:18:10,875 --> 00:18:13,041 -I don't. Yeah. -Just, you don't... 332 00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:15,291 No, I don't care. If I choose to talk, 333 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:17,125 -I will. -Voicemail: Please leave a message... 334 00:18:17,208 --> 00:18:19,542 If they leave me a message and I want to call 'em back, I will. 335 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:22,458 Jerrod: Did you-- Do you think that you've like... 336 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:26,208 come to try and accept that you're... 337 00:18:26,291 --> 00:18:28,417 like, pretty? 338 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:33,250 Yeah... yeah. Now, as an adult. Yeah. 339 00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:36,875 What, you-- what-- Being dark-skinned, you-- Did you-- ? 340 00:18:36,959 --> 00:18:39,959 Dark-skinned played a, uh, big part in it. Yeah. 341 00:18:40,041 --> 00:18:42,625 Why not? Why didn't you like being dark-skinned? 342 00:18:42,709 --> 00:18:45,458 Because that wasn't "the look." 343 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:48,208 -Jerrod: (laughs) Yeah. -Yeah. 344 00:18:48,291 --> 00:18:50,875 It wasn't the look. It wasn't the thing... 345 00:18:50,959 --> 00:18:54,583 that men were looking for-- most men were looking for. 346 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:57,625 -Like a dark-skinned girl. -Yeah. Pretty much, no. 347 00:18:57,709 --> 00:19:01,125 Did you ever try and like cover your skin up or change your skin? 348 00:19:01,208 --> 00:19:03,750 No. I did use like bleaching cream one time. 349 00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:06,125 -Really? -Yeah, I bought some and they said it's-- 350 00:19:06,208 --> 00:19:08,125 Jerrod: When? When did you do this? 351 00:19:08,208 --> 00:19:11,709 Oh, gosh, teenager. You know how when you're a teenager, you try stuff. 352 00:19:11,792 --> 00:19:14,542 Well, how do you say you feel about yourself now? 353 00:19:14,625 --> 00:19:17,667 Cynthia Carmichael: I'm confident, I think, in myself now. 354 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:21,583 So, I accept who I am. I am who I am and... 355 00:19:21,667 --> 00:19:24,458 -I'm... I'm pleased now. Yeah. -Yeah. 356 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:28,417 I mean, you've had like a crazy couple years. 357 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,417 -Cynthia: Yeah. Yeah. -(Jerrod laughs) Yeah. 358 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,291 -Yeah. -Jerrod: You seem really happy. 359 00:19:33,375 --> 00:19:35,375 Oh, yeah. I choose to be. 360 00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:37,583 -Jerrod: You-- you-- -I think it's a choice. 361 00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:40,417 You can choose to be miserable and you can choose to be happy, 362 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:43,250 and nobody's gonna care which way you choose, 363 00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:46,375 'cause they're not living your life, so it's up to you to do it. 364 00:19:46,458 --> 00:19:49,458 And so I decided, you know what, I want to be happy. 365 00:19:49,542 --> 00:19:52,208 Jerrod: Well, I just wanted to talk to you about a-- 366 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:56,417 'cause we... we've talked before, but, uh... 367 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:59,834 You know, there's still like a lot of thoughts and questions and stuff 368 00:19:59,917 --> 00:20:02,375 that, uh, I always wanted to ask you about. 369 00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:07,750 Like Dad, not only cheating, but like having... 370 00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:10,291 multiple kids, you know, 371 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:13,125 multiple children, outside of the relationship. 372 00:20:13,208 --> 00:20:15,792 Do you ever think about leaving? 373 00:20:15,875 --> 00:20:19,333 I did at first. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 374 00:20:19,417 --> 00:20:22,208 Now, I'm not-- No. I'm good. 375 00:20:22,291 --> 00:20:25,291 No moments of resentment? No moments of anger? 376 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,709 No, I chose not, 'cause I know resentment 377 00:20:27,792 --> 00:20:30,500 would build in, so that's why, like I said, it was a gradual thing. 378 00:20:30,583 --> 00:20:32,417 And I'm not gonna sit here and say... 379 00:20:32,458 --> 00:20:36,417 the hurt and anger didn't try to build, because I'm human. 380 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:40,625 But... maybe I suppressed some of it, but then I... 381 00:20:40,709 --> 00:20:44,291 got enough talk in and asked enough questions that... 382 00:20:44,375 --> 00:20:46,667 I don't know. Like I said, I'm pretty much content. 383 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:51,333 And it's on him to prove to me that I can trust him again, so it's not on me. 384 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:54,250 -Jerrod: Has he been proving it? -For the most part. 385 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:56,458 -Do you question him now? -Yeah. 386 00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,291 Really, I don't really have to question, 'cause he's so on it now... 387 00:20:59,375 --> 00:21:03,000 opens up and tell me-- well, as far as I know-- everything. 388 00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:07,291 -It's hard for me to let go and understand. -Okay. 389 00:21:07,375 --> 00:21:11,583 You know what I mean? Like just go, like, oh, I-- 'cause I know-- I mean... 390 00:21:11,667 --> 00:21:14,709 You're my mother. I know you very well and I know that you 391 00:21:14,792 --> 00:21:17,792 actually don't stay up at night thinking about it. 392 00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:20,542 -Cynthia: No. Yeah. -(laughs) You know. 393 00:21:20,625 --> 00:21:25,834 What brings you that-- How do you have the ability to do that? 394 00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:28,709 Cynthia: One name: Jesus. 395 00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:31,208 -(Jerrod laughs) -Totally serious. 396 00:21:31,291 --> 00:21:35,875 -Jerrod: The... The complete faith that... -Complete faith. 397 00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:39,667 That's really beautiful. I was always, uh... 398 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:42,834 You know, I mean, I worry... 399 00:21:42,917 --> 00:21:46,166 and continue to just worry for you, you know. 400 00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:50,375 Like, and just want to make sure you're okay, like, you know... 401 00:21:50,458 --> 00:21:53,458 And you have all the options in the world, 402 00:21:53,542 --> 00:21:57,375 like, you can go anywhere. You know what I mean? Like... 403 00:21:57,458 --> 00:22:00,417 So I just want to make sure you're like... 404 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:04,291 you feel free, like free from it. 405 00:22:04,375 --> 00:22:07,834 Cynthia: I do. I do. Mm-hmm. 406 00:22:07,917 --> 00:22:09,917 -Yeah. -Cynthia: Yeah. Oh, yeah. 407 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,792 What if you caught him-- What if you caught him cheating again? 408 00:22:13,875 --> 00:22:16,375 Cynthia: Then it would be on me to... 409 00:22:16,458 --> 00:22:19,250 keep putting up with that, so, chances are-- 410 00:22:19,333 --> 00:22:22,291 and you never say what you're gonna do 'cause you don't know-- 411 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:25,625 but chances are I would not stay a second time. 412 00:22:25,709 --> 00:22:27,542 -Jerrod: Yeah. -No. 413 00:22:27,625 --> 00:22:31,208 -Especially at this age, no. -Yeah. 414 00:22:31,291 --> 00:22:35,875 'Cause... life's too short for that, to be unhappy. 415 00:22:35,959 --> 00:22:38,041 -Jerrod: You'd get out there? -Oh. Yeah. 416 00:22:38,125 --> 00:22:41,792 -You'd find you a new nigga? -No. I wouldn't... I wouldn't be looking. 417 00:22:41,875 --> 00:22:44,041 -I would enjoy life. -But you would find you a new nigga. 418 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:47,166 -No. He would have to find me. -Ma. Ma... 419 00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:49,875 -He would have to find me. (laughs) -Ma. 420 00:22:49,959 --> 00:22:53,125 Look at you. You-- You're gonna find a new nigga. 421 00:22:53,208 --> 00:22:57,709 -(Cynthia laughs) -Like, I know all types of-- listen. 422 00:22:57,792 --> 00:23:00,917 You ever wanna just do that? You ever just wanna go... 423 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,208 I mean, I love you, and pardon the language, 424 00:23:03,291 --> 00:23:05,959 but you didn't ever just wanna go fuck some random nigga... 425 00:23:06,041 --> 00:23:07,792 -Cynthia: Uh-uh. -...and like, 426 00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:09,625 "Fuck you, nigga. 427 00:23:09,709 --> 00:23:12,208 "You cheated on me, you had all these goddamned kids. 428 00:23:12,291 --> 00:23:15,959 Fuck you, I'm gonna go fuck this strange nigga." Like... 429 00:23:16,041 --> 00:23:17,959 Like some, you know... 430 00:23:18,083 --> 00:23:20,166 Stella Got Her Groove Back type shit, 431 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:22,333 'cause I could send you down to Jamaica. 432 00:23:22,417 --> 00:23:25,375 We could do it. I'd be cool with it. 433 00:23:25,458 --> 00:23:28,041 -Cynthia: Well, I'm sure you would. (laughs) -You know I'd be cool with it. 434 00:23:28,125 --> 00:23:32,000 I mean, I love Dad, but I'm just saying, if you just wanted to get out there... 435 00:23:32,083 --> 00:23:34,291 -(Cynthia laughs) -You can, I mean, that's the thing, I mean-- 436 00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:38,375 Cynthia: No, I know I have options. I do know that. But no. No. 437 00:23:38,458 --> 00:23:40,542 This temple belongs to the Lord, 438 00:23:40,625 --> 00:23:43,542 and I do not want to abuse it it any way. 439 00:23:43,625 --> 00:23:47,333 Not even for that reason. No. It's not worth it. 440 00:23:47,417 --> 00:23:50,542 Jerrod: All right, I mean, it's your temple. I respect your temple. 441 00:23:50,625 --> 00:23:52,375 I'm just saying, you know, life is short. 442 00:23:52,458 --> 00:23:55,667 You gotta get out there. There's a whole world out there. 443 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:58,166 -Yeah. It is. -You ever done cocaine? 444 00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:00,125 -No. -Me, either. Me, either. 445 00:24:00,208 --> 00:24:03,834 -Okay. All right. -All right. But I'm just saying it's out there. 446 00:24:03,917 --> 00:24:05,542 -I know it's out there. -You've got that option. 447 00:24:05,625 --> 00:24:08,291 There's a lot out there and I have an option. I have a choice. 448 00:24:08,375 --> 00:24:10,166 I do know these things. 449 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:14,000 -Jerrod: You ever been attracted to a woman? -No. 450 00:24:14,083 --> 00:24:16,083 -Never? -No. 451 00:24:16,166 --> 00:24:19,500 I mean, I don't mean that they're ugly, but no, I don't-- no. 452 00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:22,959 -I-- I prefer men. -I-- I hooked up with dudes before. 453 00:24:23,041 --> 00:24:26,041 Okay. Well, that's your option. 454 00:24:26,125 --> 00:24:28,333 (laughs) That's not mine. 455 00:24:28,417 --> 00:24:30,375 -Okay. -Yeah. 456 00:24:30,458 --> 00:24:32,166 No. I like... I like men. 457 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:35,458 You ever like, uh... Some dude, you ever like... 458 00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:38,291 see some dude walking down the street and be like... 459 00:24:38,375 --> 00:24:41,125 Oh, yeah, I'd like... I'd smash. 460 00:24:41,208 --> 00:24:44,125 No. I've found them attractive, but no, not-- 461 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:47,041 Jerrod: Well, isn't that just saying, "I'd smash"? 462 00:24:47,125 --> 00:24:50,917 No, 'cause, uh, I don't think of it that way. No. 463 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,834 -So, no. I can't say that. No. -You don't? 464 00:24:53,917 --> 00:24:55,625 -No. -No. 465 00:24:55,709 --> 00:24:57,917 I thought it was kind of the same thing. 466 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,583 -Maybe for some people, but... -Yeah. 467 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:03,000 ...for me, no. I just say, "Oh, that's a nice-looking--" 468 00:25:03,083 --> 00:25:05,625 Your imagination doesn't go to anything? 469 00:25:05,709 --> 00:25:09,417 -No. -You're so sweet. Oh, man. 470 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,417 -Who are you? -(laughing) 471 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:14,709 How are we the same-- ? How are we the same? 472 00:25:14,792 --> 00:25:18,542 -I do wonder that. I do wonder that. No. -What, like... 473 00:25:18,667 --> 00:25:22,917 -What? -It's choices. I just told you the keyword is choices. 474 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,834 Life is full of choices. 475 00:25:24,959 --> 00:25:27,834 I choose to be happy. 476 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:32,208 -I love you. -I love you, too. (laughs softly) 477 00:25:32,291 --> 00:25:34,917 -(kisses) -(Cynthia laughs softly) 478 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,041 ♪ ♪ 479 00:25:38,959 --> 00:25:41,083 -(kisses) -(Cynthia chuckling) 480 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:44,917 (Jerrod laughs) 481 00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:53,458 ♪ ♪ 482 00:26:03,583 --> 00:26:06,500 ♪ Yule tide carol... ♪ 483 00:26:06,583 --> 00:26:09,250 (children shouting playfully) 484 00:26:18,417 --> 00:26:20,500 (baby babbling) 485 00:26:20,583 --> 00:26:23,083 ♪ You don't love me. I think I love you ♪ 486 00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:25,250 Uh-oh, uh-oh, fuck it up, sis! Fuck it up! 487 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:27,375 (giggling) 488 00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:31,291 You laugh just like your grandfather. 489 00:26:31,375 --> 00:26:33,458 Girls: Cheese! 490 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,375 Jerrod: You know, because I'm gonna go meet, uh... I'm gonna go meet my sister 491 00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:42,208 probably for the first time. You think that's a good idea? 492 00:26:42,291 --> 00:26:47,208 It only makes me cringe because I'm only used to you calling me your sister. 493 00:26:47,291 --> 00:26:49,375 So now it's, I have to deal with the reality 494 00:26:49,458 --> 00:26:51,959 that you actually, you have a biological sister. 495 00:26:52,041 --> 00:26:54,417 Jerrod: A goddamn gang of the muthafuckas! 496 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:56,542 -(laughing) -Jerrod: You think you the only one? 497 00:26:56,625 --> 00:27:00,875 -Yes! -This nigga reproduced like a goddamned elk! 498 00:27:00,959 --> 00:27:02,875 -Oh, did you say an elk? -Yeah. 499 00:27:02,959 --> 00:27:05,709 -(both laughing) -There's a whole fucking herd of... 500 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:07,875 muthafuckas with these eyebrows. 501 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,000 -(laughing) -Valencia: Yeah, and those eye-- 502 00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:18,166 (knocking) 503 00:27:19,709 --> 00:27:22,875 ♪ ♪ 504 00:27:26,208 --> 00:27:29,125 -My daddy over here? I'm fucking with you. -Kenya Frasier: No. 505 00:27:29,208 --> 00:27:31,125 -Hey! -(both laughing) 506 00:27:31,208 --> 00:27:33,041 -Kenya: No, he's not here. -I'm fucking with you. 507 00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:35,000 -Jerrod: How are you? -I'm good. How are you doing? Welcome. Welcome. 508 00:27:35,083 --> 00:27:37,208 Jerrod: I'm good, I'm good. Oh, your house is lovely. 509 00:27:37,291 --> 00:27:39,125 -Well, thank you. I appreciate it. -This is great. 510 00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:41,125 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, finally. 511 00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:43,625 -Oh, look at these eyebrows. That's us. -Yep. We've got that in common. 512 00:27:43,709 --> 00:27:45,750 You look just like Dad, too, I promise you. 513 00:27:45,834 --> 00:27:48,375 Jerrod: Oh, good to see you, love. Very nice to meet you. 514 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,667 -Nice to meet you, as well. -Of course. 43826

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