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-The Hells Angels
have had epic clashes,
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brutal wars that have
left dozens
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and dozens of people dead.
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-The Pagan's were putting
so much pressure
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on the Hells Angels in Philly.
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-The blue wave
was supposed to be
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this giant wave of Pagan's
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washing from one end
of the country
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to the other end of the country.
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-If you mess up
or disrespect them,
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there's going to be
a huge price to pay,
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and that can be a life.
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-When you got the crown,
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everybody wants
to beef with you.
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Heavy lies the crown.
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-The Hells Angels are
a constant threat to them.
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-Sooner or later,
everybody talks.
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-โช Gonna call down thunder โช
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โช And shake the ground โช
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โช When they call my number โช
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โช I'll shut 'em down โช
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โช You can't stop me, no โช
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โช You can't stop me now โช
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โช You can bury me
way down under โช
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โช I'll rise above โช
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โช I'm gonna call down thunder โช
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โช Shake the ground โช
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โช I'm gonna call down โช
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โช You can't stop me now โช
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โชโช
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-In June 2023,
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I broke a story about a
seminal meeting of biker chiefs
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that should have
probably never happened.
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You need to understand
the history
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between these three groups.
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-At least 15 murders
have been attributed
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to gang violence since 1979.
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-The Hells Angels
and the Outlaws,
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the Hells Angels
and the Bandidos
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have had epic clashes,
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brutal wars that have
left dozens
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and dozens
of people dead.
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So, the fact that they would
be sitting together at a table
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to potentially negotiate a peace
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was just mind-bending,
ground-breaking news.
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According to my sources,
they had convened there
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to discuss creating an alliance
to combat the Pagan's,
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who were spreading
across the country,
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fast and furious,
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in what was called
the blue wave.
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The Pagan's alleged leader,
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Keith "Conan the Barbarian"
Richter,
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is about to be released
from prison,
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and the biker world is
about to be turned upside down.
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The fact that these three clubs
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that have been bitter rivals
for years
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were willing to set
aside their differences
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to combat a common enemy
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told you that there was
a tsunami coming down the pike.
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โชโช
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-I was 20 years old.
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I'd read Hunter Thompson's
book on the Hells Angels.
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Pretty much inspired everyone
that rode a bike,
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and I don't think anybody
that rode a bike hadn't read it.
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We thought it was cool.
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I spent 13 years in a club --
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the Bandidos.
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The chapter in San Antonio,
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I was founding vice president.
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Partied a lot, man.
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Yeah, it's a different world
out there now.
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-The Bandidos are
kind of the Hells Angels
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without the PR image.
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And the Bandidos are
the ugly Hells Angels,
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the Hells without the Angels.
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Their slogan is
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"We're the people
your mother warned you about."
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-We're the boogeyman.
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I used to ride up
to the people on the street,
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on my bike,
and I'd hear door locks.
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I'm thinking, God, you know,
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like I'm going to jump off
the bike and bother y'all.
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If the door locks went off,
we was doing good.
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-My father, Don Chambers,
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was the founder
of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club
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on March 4th, 1966.
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-Don Chambers identified Texas
as a fertile ground
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to build a biker kingdom
from the ground up,
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and that's what he did.
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-Daddy had Texas.
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The Hells Angels had California.
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Hells Angels weren't allowed
to come into Texas.
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That was his territory.
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If a Hells Angel was
going to come into Texas,
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you're going to have
to talk to Daddy.
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-You began to have
quite a few skirmishes
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between Bandidos
and Hells Angels
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over the fact that
the Hells Angels did not think
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that any other biker club
should even exist.
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That if it's
not the Hells Angels,
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you're not a biker club.
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Bikers take their territory
very seriously.
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There were actually Hells Angels
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that were killed
for going into Texas.
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-I'd heard
about the Hells Angels.
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Sonny Barger sat
in my daddy's house.
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Daddy went, "Donna Lee!
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You think you could stop
long enough
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to let me introduce you
to somebody?"
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You know, I'm 14.
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I want to be with my friends
and go to the beach.
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He goes, "This is Sonny Barger,
president of the Hells Angels."
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And I thought, "Oh, my gosh,"
because, you know,
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I always heard they were
rivals with each other.
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Sonny Barger was asking Daddy
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to quit sending
his Hells Angels back
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on the airplane.
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Then Daddy walked me
out on the porch.
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I said, "What's this guy
mowing our yard for?"
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And he was
a Hells Angel prospect.
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He goes, "'Cause I told him to."
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-1972, Don Chambers
was burned in a drug deal.
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He thought he was buying
methamphetamine.
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In reality, he was being sold
bunk baking soda.
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As retaliation,
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drew these culprits
to a meeting,
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had them dig their own graves,
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told them they needed
to go into the grave
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so they could go meet
Jesus Christ,
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and proceeded to execute them.
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-They were made
to dig their own graves.
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Everybody thought
that Daddy killed them.
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I don't know
if Daddy put the order down.
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I don't know if Daddy had
the gun in his hand,
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but I guess it was a message
to get across.
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-If you look at the Bandidos
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and the downfall of their
founder, Don Chambers,
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it went to a prospect
that was having issues
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in his prospecting
and being hazed,
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and he became an informant
and went to the police.
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-Prospect!
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-The Bandidos are known for
and differ from other clubs
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is their initiation rituals
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that are not
like the other clubs'.
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-Everybody's patch
got initiated.
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We used to take our colors off,
put them on the ground.
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Everybody pissed on them.
Then we'd wear them home.
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-There was one time
I was at a place,
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and somebody took a poop
on the set of colors.
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-About 13 people
got initiated on a Labor Day
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in Ruidoso, New Mexico.
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People were throwing up.
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One guy had diarrhea,
and it's gross.
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Cops didn't infiltrate by clubs
back then because of that.
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No cop was going to stand for
that kind of shit.
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-This is more
than just a motorcycle gang.
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Authorities here
and in a number of other states
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say the Hells Angels have become
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a national criminal
organization,
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more ruthless
than even the Mafia.
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-When you decide that you
want to be a Hells Angel, right?
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They take your photo,
they distribute,
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they fax your photo
to all the other chapters.
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So, somebody has to look at you
to make sure that,
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you know, you haven't had
a beef with somebody
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or that you don't owe
any money on the street
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or anything like that.
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-The Hells Angels were
very restrictive.
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It was harder
to get into the Hells Angels
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than the American Army.
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-Any prospect has to go
through at least a year,
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usually longer,
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working for
the full patch members,
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and they are virtual slaves.
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-We're like three years
from hanging around prospect.
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You know, it's a long time,
right?
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And he would keep you awake.
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I saw some weird stuff.
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The East End Hells Angels,
when he was a prospect,
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and he got a blowjob
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from a hooker
they'd picked up
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who didn't have any teeth,
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in front of everybody
in the clubhouse.
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And he said they all
started laughing
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because he said
all the guys are going,
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"He's enjoying it.
He's enjoying it.
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Okay, stop."
[ Laughs ]
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Well, I saw
a prospect from Sherbrooke
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with one of the hookers
on top of the bar
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in intimate relations.
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Yeah. Awkward.
In front of everyone.
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Probably 60, 70 guys.
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-They want the prospects to know
that in order to get here,
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you have to work,
you have to be trustworthy,
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and you have to be
able to put up with anything.
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-Members will ask you questions
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you have to have
the answers for,
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and some answers,
if you don't have them right,
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you'll get bang checked
right in your forehead,
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punched in your chest
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because you need to know
certain things.
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-The Bandidos,
they were much less restrictive,
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so they were expanding faster
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because they weren't
as selective.
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-Sonny Barger,
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who helped organize
the group 21 years ago
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and is considered by many to be
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the most powerful man
in the Hells Angels.
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-Sonny figured
that our competitors
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are going international, right?
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Like, we need to make a mark
in other countries.
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-Normally in Denmark,
we drive on a Harley-Davidson.
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-Strength is in numbers,
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and strength is
in presence and territory.
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-The Bandidos looked to the
rest of the world to expand to,
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and a lot of them
naturally thought Europe.
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A lot of them
are quite racist and xenophobic.
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But, you know,
the European countries have
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sort of a step in between.
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And a lot of those places
took to them very quickly,
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particularly
the Scandinavian countries --
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Denmark, Norway, Sweden.
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And the biker gangs became
very, very powerful there.
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-They've styled themselves
as modern-day Vikings,
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rival motorcycle gangs
involved in a battle
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which has spread
across Scandinavia.
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-At the height of the war,
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members of the Hells Angels
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killed the Bandidos
chapter president
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at the Copenhagen airport.
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[ Sirens wailing ]
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-Because the Bandidos weren't
afraid of being the bad guys,
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I don't think they had
the intelligence or the control
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or the discipline
that the Hells Angels have.
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-Later that same year,
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during the Hells Angels
annual Viking party,
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a Bandido launched a rocket into
the Hells Angels headquarters.
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A local woman
who was an innocent passerby
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was killed during the attack.
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-People were frightened because
anti-tank rockets were used,
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automatic weapons were used,
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stuff that had been stolen
from the military.
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The level of destruction
was huge.
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-These are some of the weapons
seized from the bikers.
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The police chief
in charge of the investigation
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says this wasn't
just a gangland feud,
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it was a war.
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-It's a global battle
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that's played out
in the fields of Europe.
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You have the Hells Angels
and the Bandidos
251
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fighting over money and turf
and the profits from cocaine.
252
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-It was the great
Nordic biker war
253
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where Norway and Sweden,
254
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bikers there
with the Hells Angels,
255
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were fighting for territory.
256
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You had over 100 casualties.
257
00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:32,669
-But now a truce has
been called
258
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between the leader
of the Hells Angels
259
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and the head of the rival
Bandido gang.
260
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-We've never seen a truce
like this in the biker world.
261
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Unfortunately, those friendly
handshakes didn't extend
262
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over North America.
263
00:12:52,522 --> 00:12:54,565
-Just as things were winding
down in the war in Europe,
264
00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:57,402
things were just starting
to heat up in North America
265
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between the Hells Angels
and the Bandidos.
266
00:13:01,948 --> 00:13:05,868
-1990s, cocaine is a goldmine.
267
00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:10,081
It's like a blank check for
organized crime and the bikers.
268
00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:17,088
-The cocaine business really
centered in Quebec and Montreal
269
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because of the port,
270
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because of the transnational
smuggling business.
271
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-Stadnick had a reputation
of being kind of an odd guy.
272
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-He's a mystery even to people
who are in the Hells Angels.
273
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He's quite small.
He looks he's jockey's size.
274
00:13:38,568 --> 00:13:40,278
His face is quite marked up
275
00:13:40,278 --> 00:13:43,740
because his motorcycle
once blew up on him.
276
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-Even back in high school,
277
00:13:45,283 --> 00:13:47,994
he was known
for dressing very flashily.
278
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He had a full length
wolf fur coat,
279
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which I'm not even sure
was legal at the time.
280
00:13:53,916 --> 00:13:57,295
-He had a customized belt
buckle that could flip around
281
00:13:57,295 --> 00:13:58,921
and turn into a knife.
282
00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:00,465
-That belt was special to him.
283
00:14:00,465 --> 00:14:02,050
It was given to him by
the Hells Angels
284
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for recognition of what he had
done for the club,
285
00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,054
and it was huge.
286
00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:08,473
-He takes that sort of thing
really seriously.
287
00:14:08,473 --> 00:14:12,101
It isn't just a bit of clothing.
It's a sign of respect.
288
00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:19,358
-1992, Stadnick's arrested
with $90,000
289
00:14:19,358 --> 00:14:22,320
in a bag he's carrying
in the airport, in cash.
290
00:14:23,488 --> 00:14:25,907
-The police found
a large sum of money on him,
291
00:14:25,907 --> 00:14:28,076
including some of it
in his belt,
292
00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:31,913
and the cops confiscated it.
293
00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:33,790
When it came to trial,
they couldn't prove
294
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that it was proceeds of crimes.
295
00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:37,627
But when it was returned
to Walter,
296
00:14:37,627 --> 00:14:41,339
it appeared as though
the cops had played hockey
297
00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:42,965
with the belt buckle.
298
00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:45,760
And so, he sued
for the mental anguish
299
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,179
of having his belt ruined.
300
00:14:48,179 --> 00:14:50,223
-In a calculated show
of force,
301
00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,351
the Hells Angels rumble
into Ontario.
302
00:14:53,351 --> 00:14:55,770
They are going to show police
and local gangs
303
00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:59,607
they have the muscle and desire
to take over the drug trade.
304
00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:02,819
-Hells Angels wanted
to conquer the entire market.
305
00:15:02,819 --> 00:15:06,197
They wanted to be
the only distributors of drugs
306
00:15:06,197 --> 00:15:08,241
in all of Canada.
307
00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,077
-The bikers are sitting
atop this treasure trove
308
00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:12,954
of cocaine riches,
309
00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:16,833
but their rivals are
the dreaded Rock Machine.
310
00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:23,840
-The Hells Angels wanted to
make it very clear on the street
311
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,885
that you either dealt with them
or you didn't deal at all.
312
00:15:27,885 --> 00:15:30,555
You were going to get your drugs
from the Hells Angels,
313
00:15:30,555 --> 00:15:33,141
and if not,
we're going to kill you.
314
00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,477
-It was a turf thing.
315
00:15:36,477 --> 00:15:38,354
If you were going to sell drugs,
316
00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:40,189
you had to go through
the Hells Angels.
317
00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:41,899
You had to know a Hells Angel,
318
00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:43,860
or you're going to be
in trouble.
319
00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:47,196
-And the rivals
didn't want to use them
320
00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:49,407
as their suppliers,
as their muscle.
321
00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:53,327
They banded together
a group of bar owners
322
00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:56,247
who were also drug dealers
with other local gangs
323
00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:59,458
and the Rock Machine
to fight the Hells Angels.
324
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:04,088
-At this point, the Rock Machine
was getting destroyed.
325
00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:07,091
-The gangland-style executions
326
00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:10,678
and the bombings
began in the summer of 1994.
327
00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:14,682
Since then, 27 people
have been blown up or shot dead.
328
00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:17,768
-When the Rock Machine
was losing the war,
329
00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:21,522
they knew they needed help
and reinforcements.
330
00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:24,650
-The Rock Machine
came up with an idea
331
00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:29,947
to pitch the Bandidos
on a patch-over alliance
332
00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:32,492
in the middle of their war
against the Hells Angels,
333
00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:35,036
and it wasn't until early 2001,
334
00:16:35,036 --> 00:16:38,080
at a ceremony at the Rock
Machine's Kingston clubhouse,
335
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,124
that the full patch-over
took place
336
00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,877
and the Rock Machine
officially became Bandidos.
337
00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:49,217
-What worries police
trying to stop
338
00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:51,010
the bloody turf war in Quebec
339
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,638
is that the Rock Machine
has now cut a deal
340
00:16:53,638 --> 00:16:55,640
to merge with the Bandidos,
341
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,393
the Texas-based archrivals
of the Hells Angels.
342
00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:02,980
The concern is that could lead
to even more violence.
343
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,692
-Now, suddenly it's not
just the Rock Machine
344
00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:09,111
and the Hells Angels
battling it out in Montreal.
345
00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:12,365
It's Hells Angels
versus the Bandidos.
346
00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:18,329
-Two shootings within an hour
and a half of one another.
347
00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:20,081
Both victims were taken
to hospital.
348
00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:22,667
Both known to police.
349
00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:25,211
-This bloody biker
war has become a constant source
350
00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:27,088
of frustration for police.
351
00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:29,340
-Over the next few years,
352
00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:35,596
we see something like 162
killings in the Montreal area.
353
00:17:35,596 --> 00:17:37,306
I mean, the streets were, like,
354
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:40,726
filled with ambulances,
bombs going off,
355
00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:43,396
like in the worst days
of Al Capone
356
00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,940
and the Chicago mobsters.
357
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,414
The police decide,
"We have to stop this war
358
00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:04,917
between the Hells Angels
and the Bandidos.
359
00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,169
Let's go for
the weaker character."
360
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:11,215
-Back then, I was working
on the anti-gang squad,
361
00:18:11,215 --> 00:18:14,385
and a whole team,
even two teams at one point,
362
00:18:14,385 --> 00:18:18,472
were working 24 hours a day
on the Bandidos,
363
00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:21,058
called Operation Amigo.
364
00:18:21,058 --> 00:18:24,895
So, we're talking of about
at least 40 police officers
365
00:18:24,895 --> 00:18:29,442
full time, including
surveillance, phone tappings,
366
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,778
and the detectives
writing out the warrants.
367
00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:35,906
That's a lot of manpower,
and that's a lot of money.
368
00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:41,454
-So, by the summer of 2002,
the authorities in Quebec
369
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:44,582
are fully immersed
into Operation Amigo
370
00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:48,711
and going after the Bandidos
with reckless abandon.
371
00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:53,799
-We had everything we needed
to take down the Bandidos.
372
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,551
We had the stash with the guns.
373
00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,887
We had the stash
with the narcotics.
374
00:18:57,887 --> 00:19:00,514
We had the main players.
We had surveillance.
375
00:19:00,514 --> 00:19:02,767
We had them
on attempted murders.
376
00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:04,769
-Hands on your head!
377
00:19:04,769 --> 00:19:07,438
-Police actually do
the Hells Angels' job
378
00:19:07,438 --> 00:19:09,440
and wipe out the Bandidos
379
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,485
by arresting them
in huge numbers.
380
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,737
-Investigators say
they have been hammering down
381
00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:17,198
on organized crime
since September.
382
00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:21,994
-The quantity
of narcotics and guns
383
00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:25,206
seized in that operation
was quite overwhelming
384
00:19:25,206 --> 00:19:28,084
for a gang
that was just starting again.
385
00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:32,421
So, I can imagine
a gang that's 20 times bigger,
386
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,592
like the Hells Angels,
what they have in stock.
387
00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:38,594
-The remnants of the Bandidos,
388
00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:43,182
many of them actually patch
over to the Hells Angels.
389
00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:47,311
-Very seldom we do take
down an organization,
390
00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:49,438
and we always see them
pop up again.
391
00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:52,233
But in their case,
that was over and out.
392
00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:58,739
-So, the Bandidos
have been eliminated in Quebec.
393
00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:01,867
They hang on in Ontario.
394
00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,162
-After Operation Amigo
concluded,
395
00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:07,873
the Bandidos started
turning on themselves,
396
00:20:07,873 --> 00:20:10,000
and the internal fighting
in the club
397
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,586
led to unimaginable bloodshed.
398
00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:20,678
-After Operation Amigo
takes down the Bandidos,
399
00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:24,598
there's only about 15 members
left in Canada.
400
00:20:25,641 --> 00:20:28,519
-John Muscedere,
or "Boxer," from Toronto
401
00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,147
was their new
national president
402
00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:33,566
and felt abandoned
by the American Bandidos.
403
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,985
They wanted nothing
to do with him.
404
00:20:36,986 --> 00:20:40,823
-Boxer was already known
as a very unhinged character,
405
00:20:40,823 --> 00:20:42,867
and his fight within
the Bandidos
406
00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:45,202
really sent him
over the edge, spiraling.
407
00:20:45,202 --> 00:20:47,997
His cocaine abuse got worse,
408
00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:50,916
and he just became more unhinged
and more reckless
409
00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:53,669
in his behavior
as the time went on.
410
00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:57,965
-Jeff Pike, the leader of the
Bandidos in the United States,
411
00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:00,468
sent a very clear
cease-and-desist message
412
00:21:00,468 --> 00:21:02,344
to the Bandidos
remaining in Canada
413
00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:05,097
to put an end
to all of their activities.
414
00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:09,393
-Boxer sent back
his patches to Jeff Pike,
415
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,353
decided that they were
no longer Bandidos,
416
00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:14,523
and they declared that they were
now the No Surrender Crew.
417
00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:16,484
-He wanted to reignite
the Bandidos
418
00:21:16,484 --> 00:21:18,319
as a powerful force in Canada.
419
00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:21,405
This was despite
the Bandidos in the U.S.
420
00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:24,241
wanting it to disband entirely.
421
00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:25,868
-Boxer doesn't like
what he's hearing
422
00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:28,162
from the Bandidos in Texas.
423
00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:30,247
He goes on his own campaign,
424
00:21:30,247 --> 00:21:33,459
e-mailing other Bandidos
chapters around the world,
425
00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:38,631
trying to get support for him
in the biker war in Canada
426
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:44,803
that leadership of the Bandidos
in Texas want to discontinue.
427
00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:47,306
And Jeff Pike sent
an e-mail back to him,
428
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:48,599
basically telling him
to ---- off,
429
00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:49,809
saying, "Hey, you're a Bandido.
430
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,602
You'll do what I tell you
to do."
431
00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:54,480
-There's a lot of speculation
432
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,733
that Jeff Pike ordered
the execution and murder
433
00:21:57,733 --> 00:22:00,945
of the Bandidos
remaining in Canada.
434
00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:02,738
-How you doing?
435
00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:10,162
-Wayne Kellestine
had been in a number of gangs.
436
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,748
You know, I hate to say crazy
to be Hells Angels,
437
00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,084
but he really was
turned down from them
438
00:22:15,084 --> 00:22:18,087
because they thought he was too
violent and too unpredictable.
439
00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:23,676
-But with Boxer's promotion to
the head of the Bandidos Canada,
440
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,553
he became very jealous.
441
00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:27,304
-Oh, my ----ing good God.
442
00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:29,849
I look like I just climbed
out of a ----ing, uh,
443
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:32,268
hillbilly ----ing convention.
444
00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:34,019
-Everybody who knew
anything about crime
445
00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:35,896
knew who Wayne Kellestine was.
446
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:37,940
-Kellestine wanted to be a boss.
447
00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:39,650
He wanted to be a big deal.
448
00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:41,902
-He was really
into Nazi Germany.
449
00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:45,698
His farm and its barn
were covered in swastikas
450
00:22:45,698 --> 00:22:48,158
and iron crosses
and things like that.
451
00:22:48,158 --> 00:22:52,788
-โช Deutschland, Deutschland,
uber alles Deutschland โช
452
00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:57,293
-Allegedly, the U.S. Bandido
leadership told Kellestine
453
00:22:57,293 --> 00:23:00,337
that Muscedere and the rest
of the No Surrender Crew
454
00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:01,839
were to be killed,
455
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,174
and Kellestine would become
the new leader
456
00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:07,011
of the Canadian Bandidos
as the reward.
457
00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:08,679
-He had this plan
where you murder people
458
00:23:08,679 --> 00:23:10,681
and dump them
in the Hells Angels area,
459
00:23:10,681 --> 00:23:12,057
their bodies.
460
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:14,018
Police turn
on the Hells Angels.
461
00:23:14,018 --> 00:23:15,978
Police crack down
on the Hells Angels.
462
00:23:15,978 --> 00:23:18,731
Then the Bandidos,
they rise up.
463
00:23:21,734 --> 00:23:24,194
-On April 8th, 2006,
464
00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:27,740
Muscedere and seven others
go to Kellestine's ranch.
465
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:30,993
-Wayne Kellestine
and a handful of cohorts
466
00:23:30,993 --> 00:23:36,206
massacre eight people,
eight members of the Bandidos.
467
00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:37,708
-There's been
a lot of speculation
468
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:40,336
about what happened
inside this farmhouse.
469
00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:44,381
OPP investigators believe
it was an internal cleansing.
470
00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:47,343
-It was like an assembly line
murder, where through a night,
471
00:23:47,343 --> 00:23:49,303
they were taken out
one by one and shot.
472
00:23:49,303 --> 00:23:52,681
-The killing was mainly done
by Kellestine himself.
473
00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:57,895
He would put a long gun, like
a rifle, under the man's shirt
474
00:23:57,895 --> 00:24:00,689
and shoot him in the heart.
475
00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:04,777
-CTV News discovered this video,
taken back in 1999,
476
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:07,404
of one of the men murdered
over the weekend,
477
00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:10,991
48-year-old John Muscedere,
nicknamed Boxer.
478
00:24:10,991 --> 00:24:13,202
-He was offered a chance
to be in with the killers,
479
00:24:13,202 --> 00:24:14,912
and he didn't take it.
480
00:24:14,912 --> 00:24:18,332
He said, "Take me first.
I want to go out like a man."
481
00:24:18,332 --> 00:24:21,710
-And Wayne,
being such a fan of the Nazis,
482
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:23,379
made it especially hard
483
00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:26,924
on the Jewish member
of the Bandidos, Jamie Flanz,
484
00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:29,301
and kept taunting him
throughout the killings,
485
00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:32,638
letting him know
that he would be last
486
00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:34,056
just so he'd have
to live through
487
00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:35,974
seeing everybody else
get killed.
488
00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:40,229
-The eight bodies were placed
in cars
489
00:24:40,229 --> 00:24:42,648
and driven to Stafford Line.
490
00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:47,569
-They were left strewn
amongst a open field and a farm.
491
00:24:47,569 --> 00:24:49,488
-And I remember calling up
the leaders
492
00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:51,281
and asking for a statement,
493
00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:55,035
and they just disowned
the activities.
494
00:24:55,035 --> 00:24:57,538
-The end of the Bandidos
came at their own hand
495
00:24:57,538 --> 00:25:00,708
when they slaughtered a group
of their members overnight.
496
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:02,501
And who wants to join a club
497
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:05,838
where it's 50/50
if you get slaughtered or not?
498
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:08,340
-It was called
the Bandidos Massacre.
499
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:12,010
Each victim shot
execution-style.
500
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:15,973
-Shedden massacre, which shows
this was a sanctioned murder.
501
00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:20,936
You are signing the death
warrant of your former brothers.
502
00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:22,896
-Did you murder
these eight people?
503
00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:25,023
How's that for a question?
-[ Chuckles ]
504
00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:27,151
That's a dumb ----ing question.
How can you say that?
505
00:25:27,151 --> 00:25:30,237
-Alright, well --
-I ----ing said it.
506
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:32,531
-Because what -- I'm here,
507
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:35,993
and I've given you
an opportunity to tell me
508
00:25:35,993 --> 00:25:37,578
what you did Friday
and Saturday.
509
00:25:37,578 --> 00:25:39,580
Help yourself.
-[ Laughs ]
510
00:25:42,291 --> 00:25:45,127
-On October 29th, 2009,
511
00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:48,130
Wayne Kellestine and gang
received 44 guilty verdicts
512
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:51,091
for first-degree murder
and four for manslaughter.
513
00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:54,887
-The Shedden massacre just
kind of made everybody sick.
514
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:58,390
Nobody wanted to associate
with the Bandidos,
515
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,309
and it actually strengthened
the Hells Angels
516
00:26:00,309 --> 00:26:06,482
because their brand looked
so much more sophisticated,
517
00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:11,528
cleaner, more efficient
than the Bandidos.
518
00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:15,866
-With the Bandidos wiped out,
519
00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:19,703
the Hells Angels looked
all the more powerful in Canada.
520
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,665
That was until the Pagan's
521
00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:26,710
started to turn
their biker world upside down.
522
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:28,712
[ Siren wailing ]
523
00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:36,720
-Right now we're in Elizabeth,
New Jersey.
524
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,263
Nugent's Tavern,
525
00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:40,766
second home to the Pagan Nation,
Elizabeth Chapter.
526
00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:42,226
One-Percenter.
527
00:26:44,645 --> 00:26:48,106
Pagan Norse giant.
That's the Pagan center patch.
528
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:50,818
Live Pagan, die Pagan.
LPDP.
529
00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:56,782
-There are five
outlaw motorcycle gangs
530
00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:58,700
that we refer to
as the Big Five.
531
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:02,579
You know, they're top-tier
operating criminal organizations
532
00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:07,626
Hells Angels, Outlaws,
Mongols, Bandidos,
533
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,753
and of course, the Pagan's.
534
00:27:09,753 --> 00:27:12,464
-They're the rivals
of the Hells Angels.
535
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:16,009
The Pagan's were formed in 1959,
in Maryland.
536
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:18,345
Originally a group
of motorcycle enthusiasts.
537
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:19,930
General public is
a little more aware
538
00:27:19,930 --> 00:27:21,557
of who the Hells Angels are.
539
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:23,976
The Pagan's are a little more
of an unknown entity
540
00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:25,602
to the general public,
541
00:27:25,602 --> 00:27:28,188
but to law enforcement,
it's said the Pagan's are by far
542
00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,858
the most violent gang
in the world.
543
00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:35,779
-My name is LT Menginie.
544
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:39,408
My father was one of the
original Philadelphia members
545
00:27:39,408 --> 00:27:41,034
of the Pagan's.
546
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:45,789
He was a motorcycle mechanic
for Harley-Davidson,
547
00:27:45,789 --> 00:27:48,375
and he was all
about power and money.
548
00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:52,671
Those people wanted
to be Pagan's,
549
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,756
and some of them had no choice,
you know?
550
00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:56,008
Like, that was their
neighborhood,
551
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:57,718
or their brother
already was a Pagan,
552
00:27:57,718 --> 00:27:59,761
or their father was.
553
00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:04,391
The Pagan's used to be pussy,
power, drugs, and a good time.
554
00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:07,644
-The Pagan's earned
their money
555
00:28:07,644 --> 00:28:09,396
through a number
of illicit activities,
556
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:12,190
including arms trafficking,
drug trafficking,
557
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,443
extortion, loan sharking,
558
00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:17,529
even some human trafficking,
and especially drug dealing.
559
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,406
There's some evidence
that they're among
560
00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:22,618
the largest meth dealers
in the country.
561
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:27,873
-Hells Angels and the Pagan's
been feuding for a long time.
562
00:28:27,873 --> 00:28:31,084
This goes far back
as to the '50s.
563
00:28:31,084 --> 00:28:33,378
There's been Pagan's killed
by Hells Angels,
564
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,798
and there's been Hells Angels
allegedly killed by Pagan's.
565
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:38,425
-When the Hells Angels
come into a community
566
00:28:38,425 --> 00:28:41,094
and they're looking to recruit,
bad things happen.
567
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:49,811
-The seat of power
for the Pagan's in America
568
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:52,689
forever has been
in Philadelphia.
569
00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:54,858
-Everybody tried
to get Philly as a stronghold.
570
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:57,778
Philly's Pagan.
Philly's Pagan as ----.
571
00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:02,574
-If you're a criminal group,
it's valuable territory.
572
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,701
You're a quick drive
from New York.
573
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:06,328
You're a quick drive
from Baltimore.
574
00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:09,081
You're a relatively quick drive
to Boston.
575
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:10,749
You're right on the water.
576
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,584
There's a port of call there.
577
00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:17,756
-Hells Angels pioneered
this tactic, okay?
578
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,383
It ----ing works.
579
00:29:19,383 --> 00:29:21,426
What you do is
when you move into a new area,
580
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:23,512
you shake everybody's hand,
you bring money with you.
581
00:29:23,512 --> 00:29:26,014
Hey, you know, buy the bar out.
You come as a friend.
582
00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,808
9 out of 10, you got
a little club around there
583
00:29:27,808 --> 00:29:29,768
where they get starstruck
or whatever you have.
584
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:30,936
"Yeah, we're hanging out
with the Hells Angels.
585
00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:32,771
The Hells Angels respect us."
586
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,314
The Hells Angels
don't ----ing respect you.
587
00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:35,816
They're just waiting
for you guys to get greedy
588
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:37,901
so they can find a break
in the matrix
589
00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:39,361
and patch guys in.
590
00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:40,946
And now that's
why we call them maggots --
591
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:42,406
well, I apologize.
592
00:29:42,406 --> 00:29:44,908
Long Island likes
to call them maggots
593
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:47,285
because, well, they're maggots.
Parasites.
594
00:29:47,285 --> 00:29:49,913
They breed, and then
they're there, you know?
595
00:29:49,913 --> 00:29:52,332
So, that's where they get
that name from.
596
00:29:54,251 --> 00:29:56,378
-When the Hells Angels
infiltrated Philly,
597
00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:59,339
they looked for someone
who was a vulnerable target
598
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:01,967
and made them betray the club.
599
00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:07,472
-My father went to jail in '82,
600
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,141
but when he was locked up
in Texas,
601
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:11,476
he was locked up
with a Hells Angel.
602
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:14,479
Hells Angels have been trying to
come into Philadelphia forever.
603
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,231
They said, okay,
604
00:30:16,231 --> 00:30:17,691
they're going to give him a
couple hundred thousand dollars
605
00:30:17,691 --> 00:30:19,317
to start this chapter.
606
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:23,030
Next thing you know,
my father quits the Pagan's,
607
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:27,075
brings all these people over
with him to become Hells Angels,
608
00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:30,370
and then they take
their Pagan colors,
609
00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:33,498
bring him to another Pagan's
house late at night,
610
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:35,250
and put them in a trash can
and call him
611
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,335
and tell him to go back
and look in a trash can.
612
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:39,796
Because if you quit
the One-Percenter club
613
00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:42,632
and you still have your colors,
they're going to come for him,
614
00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:44,718
and they're going to come hard.
615
00:30:44,718 --> 00:30:47,971
-If you disrespect them,
violate their rules,
616
00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,347
there's going to be
a huge price to pay,
617
00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:51,558
and that can be a life.
618
00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,896
The Hells Angels pushed
into Philadelphia,
619
00:30:55,896 --> 00:30:58,273
which the Pagan's were
not going to stand for,
620
00:30:58,273 --> 00:31:00,233
and they didn't stand for it.
621
00:31:01,777 --> 00:31:08,617
-The Pagan's are a more
instinctive, violent biker,
622
00:31:08,617 --> 00:31:12,329
and the desire to do
whatever they have to do
623
00:31:12,329 --> 00:31:14,289
to win a conflict.
624
00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:15,707
-The Pagan's were putting
so much pressure
625
00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:18,168
on the Hells Angels in Philly,
626
00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:20,962
and just, like,
just doing drive-bys
627
00:31:20,962 --> 00:31:23,924
and just driving
by putting pressure.
628
00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:26,009
One of the Pagan's that switched
over with my father,
629
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:28,303
that was the VP
of the Hells Angels,
630
00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:31,473
got murdered
on the Schuylkill Expressway.
631
00:31:31,473 --> 00:31:33,725
All these things
start happening.
632
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:37,854
It didn't look good for
the Philadelphia Hells Angels.
633
00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:43,610
Hellraiser's Ball in
Long Island, New York happens.
634
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:45,362
It's an annual party.
635
00:31:45,362 --> 00:31:48,115
And that's when
the Philadelphia Pagan's
636
00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,991
were just switching over
to Hells Angels
637
00:31:49,991 --> 00:31:52,786
that my dad was taking
with him.
638
00:31:52,786 --> 00:31:55,122
They were going up
to Hellraiser's Ball
639
00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:56,915
to get their new
Hells Angels collar.
640
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:58,708
It's like a christening.
641
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:00,085
The Pagan's got wind of it,
642
00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:01,169
and a hundred of them
went up there
643
00:32:01,169 --> 00:32:03,713
and stormed the place.
644
00:32:03,713 --> 00:32:05,423
-They began turning over tables
645
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:08,051
and initiated a riot
between the two gangs.
646
00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:10,720
Almost all the gang
members were carrying weapons,
647
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,140
which led
to the deadly biker brawl.
648
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:15,267
-Sonny Barger was there that day
at the Hellraiser's Ball
649
00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:17,269
when the Pagan's came in
and started shooting
650
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:19,146
and attacking people.
651
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:23,525
-You had the Pagan's
and the Hells Angels
652
00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:25,902
swinging it out
with bats, guns, and knives,
653
00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:28,989
you know, in the banquet hall,
as well as in the parking lot.
654
00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:31,783
It was a bloody, bloody affair.
655
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,326
-Six shots were fired.
656
00:32:33,326 --> 00:32:36,079
When it was over,
a 50-year-old Pagan member,
657
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:39,958
Robert Rutherford of Lancaster,
Pennsylvania, was killed.
658
00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:44,629
-The only reason why it didn't
work was the God damn door.
659
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:48,008
It had one of those
God damn turnstile doors.
660
00:32:48,008 --> 00:32:50,093
That shit bottlenecked
everybody.
661
00:32:50,093 --> 00:32:51,761
[ Laughs ]
662
00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,513
That's all she wrote.
663
00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:55,891
When you got the crown,
664
00:32:55,891 --> 00:32:57,559
everybody wants
to beef with you
665
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,769
because, well,
it gives you notoriety
666
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:03,773
to have issues with the guys
whose name is everywhere, right?
667
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:05,692
Heavy lies the crown.
668
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:10,238
-Waiting in the wings
during this period of time
669
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:13,575
is now arguably one of the
most dangerous biker presidents
670
00:33:13,575 --> 00:33:15,994
in the world today --
671
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:22,584
a Pagan named Keith Richter,
also known as Conan.
672
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:24,794
-Conan is a lifelong Pagan,
673
00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:29,424
was indicted in the late '90s
in a huge racketeering case
674
00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:32,969
involving several Pagan's,
and he served 16 years.
675
00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:36,723
He was released in 2012
676
00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:39,351
and was able to become
the leader
677
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:41,603
of the Pagan's nationally.
678
00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:45,315
Conan is one of the most
dangerous bikers in the world.
679
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:51,488
-Keith "Conan the Barbarian"
Richter has had a meteoric rise
680
00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:54,366
in the Pagan's
681
00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:57,661
and has a passionate desire
682
00:33:57,661 --> 00:34:01,414
to be the Sonny Barger
of the East Coast.
683
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:06,753
-I end up having
a confidential source
684
00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:09,631
who was a former member
of the Hells Angels.
685
00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:12,926
He said, "Listen, Conan,
he's a criminal mastermind,
686
00:34:12,926 --> 00:34:15,887
and you need to be very careful
when dealing with Conan."
687
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:18,556
I was shocked by that because
former Hells Angels member
688
00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:22,394
give that kind of credit
to a rival.
689
00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:26,106
Definitely took the name Conan
from the movies.
690
00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:28,858
He's a tall guy.
He's very well built.
691
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:31,695
He dominated the biker world,
dominated the Pagan's,
692
00:34:31,695 --> 00:34:35,156
and nobody wants to
directly challenge him.
693
00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:39,035
-Conan is a good brother.
He's a righteous brother.
694
00:34:39,035 --> 00:34:41,371
One time we were sleeping
in his house,
695
00:34:41,371 --> 00:34:43,581
and there's probably, like,
eight people sleeping on couches
696
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:45,333
or on the carpet,
on this and that.
697
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:47,585
And he goes to me, he goes,
"Brother, come over here.
698
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:49,462
You lay right here
on this ----ing bear rug.
699
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:52,090
You use that bear head
as a ----ing pillow."
700
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:54,009
And I was like, "Alright."
701
00:34:55,552 --> 00:34:57,178
-I call him Con Man.
702
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,055
He barbarically conned everybody
into thinking
703
00:34:59,055 --> 00:35:00,765
that he was ----ing
a righteous Pagan.
704
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,767
And then he was, in fact, not.
705
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,978
Something ain't right
with that man.
706
00:35:04,978 --> 00:35:06,604
-Most of the members
of the mother club
707
00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:09,399
have aspirations
to be the top Pagan,
708
00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:12,027
and how you get there is just
like any other organization.
709
00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:13,611
It's politics.
710
00:35:15,405 --> 00:35:18,700
-Part of Conan Richter's plan
to take power in the Pagan's
711
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,703
was to undermine
his predecessor,
712
00:35:21,703 --> 00:35:24,205
went by the nickname
Tyrone the Terrible,
713
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:28,376
and Conan hired
some private investigators
714
00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,212
to find dirt on him
715
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:32,839
and told him
he had to step down.
716
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,174
And if he wasn't
going to step down,
717
00:35:34,174 --> 00:35:35,967
they were going to kill him.
718
00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,385
-You come in
with some paperwork
719
00:35:37,385 --> 00:35:39,137
and you say,
"I hired a private investigator.
720
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:40,639
I found out
about this mother----er."
721
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,099
That should have been
a red flag right there.
722
00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:46,186
Private investigators
are typically ex-cops.
723
00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:48,480
Whether he fabricated it or not,
724
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,649
he had enough guys with him
that believed in him.
725
00:35:51,649 --> 00:35:53,485
Then he becomes president.
726
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:55,487
[ All chanting ]
727
00:35:59,449 --> 00:36:00,784
-The blue wave was supposed
to be
728
00:36:00,784 --> 00:36:02,660
this giant wave of Pagan's
729
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,204
washing from one end
of the country
730
00:36:04,204 --> 00:36:05,955
to the other end of the country.
731
00:36:05,955 --> 00:36:09,459
So, under Conan's regime
as president,
732
00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:12,879
they started patching in
lots of clubs,
733
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:14,547
lots of members.
734
00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:19,010
-Primarily, what the biggest
piece of the conflict
735
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,679
between the Hells Angels
and the Pagan's is drugs,
736
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,265
it's money,
but it's really territory.
737
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:26,267
[ Engine revs ]
738
00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:33,108
-Any time the Hells Angels
and the Pagan's
739
00:36:33,108 --> 00:36:36,152
or any one of these rival gangs
meet up with each other,
740
00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:38,196
there's a propensity
for violence.
741
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,491
There was an incident
at a gas station
742
00:36:41,491 --> 00:36:44,369
not too far
from the Hells Angels clubhouse.
743
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:47,747
-Newark Hells Angels
clubhouse. [ Chuckles ]
744
00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,874
The creme de la creme, right?
745
00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:53,211
So, this is their home.
746
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,921
Well, you got the gas station
up the street
747
00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:57,090
where that incident happened.
748
00:36:58,341 --> 00:37:01,177
-The Pagan's were looking
for the Hells Angels,
749
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:04,806
and then they found
the victim at a gas station.
750
00:37:04,806 --> 00:37:06,516
An individual,
to the best of our knowledge,
751
00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:07,976
was not a member
of the Hells Angels,
752
00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:11,521
but he was at the club
and had been seen there.
753
00:37:11,521 --> 00:37:14,315
An individual gets out
with a small baseball bat
754
00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:17,068
and begins to whale on him.
755
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:23,700
โชโช
756
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,578
And then he's joined
by four or five other Pagan's.
757
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:30,832
Law enforcement identified
a guy by the name of Hellboy
758
00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:33,126
as the one
who committed the crime.
759
00:37:33,126 --> 00:37:35,003
-Hellboy was an MMA fighter.
760
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:36,337
He had a reputation as being one
761
00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:39,007
of the toughest Pagan's
on the streets.
762
00:37:40,675 --> 00:37:43,344
He wasn't the kind of guy that
anyone wanted to tangle with.
763
00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:45,638
He was involved in a lot
of illicit crimes.
764
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,557
Crystal meth, drugs.
765
00:37:47,557 --> 00:37:49,726
He's a dangerous guy.
766
00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:51,853
-He broke the guy's clavicle.
767
00:37:51,853 --> 00:37:52,937
Several bones were broken.
768
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:54,230
If it wasn't for his helmet,
769
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:55,815
he probably
would have been dead.
770
00:37:58,151 --> 00:37:59,486
-What happened with Hellboy?
771
00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:01,696
He got ----ing charged.
[ Chuckles ]
772
00:38:01,696 --> 00:38:05,366
Hellboy got charged for beating
that man on ----ing camera.
773
00:38:06,701 --> 00:38:08,077
It was pretty cut and dry.
774
00:38:08,077 --> 00:38:10,288
I mean, it was live on TV.
[ Chuckles ]
775
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,248
Live, direct.
776
00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,875
-The funny thing about it
is that, you know,
777
00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:15,627
it happens in the gas station
778
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,046
where the Hells Angels
have a reputation
779
00:38:18,046 --> 00:38:21,090
for jumping and beating up
people on motorcycles.
780
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,551
And then when one of their own
falls victim to it,
781
00:38:23,551 --> 00:38:25,261
they suddenly have him testify
782
00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:28,223
to put people like me
in prison.
783
00:38:29,557 --> 00:38:32,644
-Conan's blue wave
expansion was a direct assault
784
00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:34,729
to the power
of the Hells Angels.
785
00:38:35,772 --> 00:38:38,441
-Hells Angels are
a constant threat to them.
786
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:42,195
If they can get bigger,
get stronger, get more members,
787
00:38:42,195 --> 00:38:44,113
they can stand up
to the Hells Angels
788
00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:46,115
even more than they do.
789
00:38:46,115 --> 00:38:49,911
And it's spreading
that blue color of the Pagan's
790
00:38:49,911 --> 00:38:51,955
as far as they can spread it.
791
00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:56,626
-They went from a club
that was predominantly
792
00:38:56,626 --> 00:38:58,044
just an east coast club,
793
00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,504
with members down from Florida,
794
00:38:59,504 --> 00:39:01,965
up through New York, etc.,
795
00:39:01,965 --> 00:39:04,133
to now a club
that has members as far as --
796
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,303
at least to hear them tell it --
Alaska and Puerto Rico.
797
00:39:07,303 --> 00:39:08,930
That brings trouble
and has brought trouble
798
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:10,515
across the country.
799
00:39:15,645 --> 00:39:17,564
-According to my sources,
seminal meeting
800
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,857
of biker chiefs
and the outlaws,
801
00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:22,569
the Hells Angels
and the Bandidos convene
802
00:39:22,569 --> 00:39:26,864
to discuss creating an alliance
to combat the Pagan's
803
00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:29,576
and their blue wave expansion.
804
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:34,455
But as Conan's blue wave mandate
spreads into Hells Angels,
805
00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,999
Bandidos, and Outlaws territory,
806
00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:39,752
he's also changing Pagan laws.
807
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:42,297
One that raises eyebrows --
808
00:39:42,297 --> 00:39:47,051
retired cops are now allowed
to become full-patched Pagan's.
809
00:39:48,595 --> 00:39:53,266
-Red flag was that the bylaw
is now allowed for anybody,
810
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:58,521
corrections or ex-police
to join the club.
811
00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:02,442
Oh, yeah. He changed that,
which to me was a red flag.
812
00:40:03,443 --> 00:40:05,612
You know this is
an outlaw club, right?
813
00:40:05,612 --> 00:40:07,030
What do you mean,
you're bringing the law
814
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,573
into the outlaw club?
815
00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:12,910
-He was picked up
on a gun charge
816
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:15,330
following a Pagan event
in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,
817
00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:18,499
where he was found to have
a loaded semi-automatic handgun
818
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:20,418
in his vehicle.
819
00:40:22,879 --> 00:40:24,339
-I wasn't part
of the investigation,
820
00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:28,051
so I don't know the evidence
that they had
821
00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:30,094
or how it actually played out.
822
00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:33,306
I will say this --
sooner or later,
823
00:40:33,306 --> 00:40:36,476
you know, even the hardest-core
gang member or biker --
824
00:40:36,476 --> 00:40:38,686
sooner or later,
everybody talks.
825
00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:44,025
โชโช
826
00:40:44,025 --> 00:40:45,568
-Why would the Feds
waste three years,
827
00:40:45,568 --> 00:40:47,654
taxpayer money,
unlimited surveillance
828
00:40:47,654 --> 00:40:49,155
and all this other crap
829
00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:50,823
just to give him 33 months
on a gun charge
830
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:53,785
that they caught him
interstate trafficking
831
00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:56,579
of a firearm with commerce.
Right?
832
00:40:56,579 --> 00:40:59,082
Career crook.
Convicted felon.
833
00:40:59,082 --> 00:41:01,167
Leader of a gang.
834
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:02,960
Well, he should have been
looking at least
835
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,630
120 months, off bat,
from the dick.
836
00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:09,092
33 months?
That's astronomical.
837
00:41:09,092 --> 00:41:11,803
Lil Wayne did
a ----ing year in Rikers Island
838
00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:13,179
for getting caught with a gun,
and he's a ----ing entertainer.
839
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:14,681
He's not even a threat.
840
00:41:14,681 --> 00:41:17,183
So, how the hell does Conan,
841
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:19,519
career crook, get 33 months?
842
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,104
Explain that one to me.
843
00:41:21,104 --> 00:41:27,485
โชโช
844
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:33,866
โชโช
845
00:41:33,866 --> 00:41:36,786
-In the 1990s,
Conan ended up being convicted
846
00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:39,706
on several racketeering charges.
847
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:42,500
The FBI was involved,
and he got busted.
848
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:46,254
They got a bunch of info
from Conan's wiretaps.
849
00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:47,505
-Red flag.
850
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,007
How do the Feds know so much?
851
00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:52,802
You're national president
of the club, my guy.
852
00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:54,804
Why are you talking so freely
on the ----ing phone?
853
00:41:54,804 --> 00:41:56,139
You know better.
854
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,725
Is it because
it's comfortable for you?
855
00:41:58,725 --> 00:41:59,809
That's your way of giving
somebody up
856
00:41:59,809 --> 00:42:01,394
without giving them up?
857
00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:02,979
It's called dry snitching.
858
00:42:02,979 --> 00:42:10,194
โชโช
859
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:16,951
โชโช
860
00:42:16,951 --> 00:42:18,411
-Everyone's wondering
861
00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:20,037
what's going to happen
when Conan gets out.
862
00:42:20,037 --> 00:42:22,832
There's some people that think
that when he's released
863
00:42:22,832 --> 00:42:27,295
that he will go back to assuming
his role as national president.
864
00:42:27,295 --> 00:42:31,007
One thing about Keith "Conan"
Richter that's very clear
865
00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:33,426
is that he is a Pagan
through and through,
866
00:42:33,426 --> 00:42:35,970
and that upon his release,
he's more than likely
867
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:38,097
going to be back
involved with the club.
868
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:41,476
-I don't see them, like,
allowing him
869
00:42:41,476 --> 00:42:42,643
to take the reins again
870
00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:44,520
because greed is a mother----er.
871
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,272
Hey, man, hopefully, you know,
872
00:42:46,272 --> 00:42:47,523
he lives a ----ing
dandy old life somewhere,
873
00:42:47,523 --> 00:42:48,900
retires out on the beach,
874
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:50,234
maybe chills with
a couple of Hells Angels
875
00:42:50,234 --> 00:42:51,694
and he dies out there,
876
00:42:51,694 --> 00:42:53,529
croaks out of COVID
or something, who knows?
877
00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:56,240
Hopefully he's not
the last of the Mohicans.
878
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,201
He's a fraud.
879
00:42:58,201 --> 00:43:00,119
He's a con man.
880
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,537
That's it.
881
00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,126
-Conan is set
to be released in 2025,
882
00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:09,420
and it's something
that the Pagan motorcycle gang
883
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,465
and its members
are really excited about,
884
00:43:12,465 --> 00:43:15,343
and they think
his release will be seismic.
885
00:43:19,889 --> 00:43:22,225
-Gregory Woolley
was a go-to-guy
886
00:43:22,225 --> 00:43:24,227
to get dirty work done.
887
00:43:24,227 --> 00:43:26,896
-He became close
to Maurice "Mom" Boucher.
888
00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:30,024
And this is perplexing
in the sense that Mom Boucher
889
00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:34,737
was a pretty rabid Nazi
sympathizer, racist,
890
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:36,447
white nationalist.
891
00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:37,782
-So, here you have this guy
892
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,992
who's got his feet
in both camps,
893
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:43,371
the Mafia and the Hells Angels.
894
00:43:45,081 --> 00:43:47,500
-Greg Woolley was
on a collision course
895
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,460
with one of the most powerful
896
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:52,547
up-and-coming Hells Angels
leaders in the world,
897
00:43:52,547 --> 00:43:54,006
Marty Robert.
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