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-The Hells Angels have had epic clashes,

brutal wars that have left dozens

and dozens of people dead.

-The Pagan's were putting so much pressure

on the Hells Angels in Philly.

-The blue wave was supposed to be

this giant wave of Pagan's

washing from one end of the country

to the other end of the country.

-If you mess up or disrespect them,

there's going to be a huge price to pay,

and that can be a life.

-When you got the crown,

everybody wants to beef with you.

Heavy lies the crown.

-The Hells Angels are a constant threat to them.

-Sooner or later, everybody talks.

-♪ Gonna call down thunder ♪

♪ And shake the ground ♪

♪ When they call my number ♪

♪ I'll shut 'em down ♪

♪ You can't stop me, no ♪

♪ You can't stop me now ♪

♪ You can bury me way down under ♪

♪ I'll rise above ♪

♪ I'm gonna call down thunder ♪

♪ Shake the ground ♪

♪ I'm gonna call down ♪

♪ You can't stop me now ♪

♪♪

-In June 2023,

I broke a story about a seminal meeting of biker chiefs

that should have probably never happened.

You need to understand the history

between these three groups.

-At least 15 murders have been attributed

to gang violence since 1979.

-The Hells Angels and the Outlaws,

the Hells Angels and the Bandidos

have had epic clashes,

brutal wars that have left dozens

and dozens of people dead.

So, the fact that they would be sitting together at a table

to potentially negotiate a peace

was just mind-bending, ground-breaking news.

According to my sources, they had convened there

to discuss creating an alliance to combat the Pagan's,

who were spreading across the country,

fast and furious,

in what was called the blue wave.

The Pagan's alleged leader,

Keith "Conan the Barbarian" Richter,

is about to be released from prison,

and the biker world is about to be turned upside down.

The fact that these three clubs

that have been bitter rivals for years

were willing to set aside their differences

to combat a common enemy

told you that there was a tsunami coming down the pike.

♪♪

-I was 20 years old.

I'd read Hunter Thompson's book on the Hells Angels.

Pretty much inspired everyone that rode a bike,

and I don't think anybody that rode a bike hadn't read it.

We thought it was cool.

I spent 13 years in a club --

the Bandidos.

The chapter in San Antonio,

I was founding vice president.

Partied a lot, man.

Yeah, it's a different world out there now.

-The Bandidos are kind of the Hells Angels

without the PR image.

And the Bandidos are the ugly Hells Angels,

the Hells without the Angels.

Their slogan is

"We're the people your mother warned you about."

-We're the boogeyman.

I used to ride up to the people on the street,

on my bike, and I'd hear door locks.

I'm thinking, God, you know,

like I'm going to jump off the bike and bother y'all.

If the door locks went off, we was doing good.

-My father, Don Chambers,

was the founder of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club

on March 4th, 1966.

-Don Chambers identified Texas as a fertile ground

to build a biker kingdom from the ground up,

and that's what he did.

-Daddy had Texas.

The Hells Angels had California.

Hells Angels weren't allowed to come into Texas.

That was his territory.

If a Hells Angel was going to come into Texas,

you're going to have to talk to Daddy.

-You began to have quite a few skirmishes

between Bandidos and Hells Angels

over the fact that the Hells Angels did not think

that any other biker club should even exist.

That if it's not the Hells Angels,

you're not a biker club.

Bikers take their territory very seriously.

There were actually Hells Angels

that were killed for going into Texas.

-I'd heard about the Hells Angels.

Sonny Barger sat in my daddy's house.

Daddy went, "Donna Lee!

You think you could stop long enough

to let me introduce you to somebody?"

You know, I'm 14.

I want to be with my friends and go to the beach.

He goes, "This is Sonny Barger, president of the Hells Angels."

And I thought, "Oh, my gosh," because, you know,

I always heard they were rivals with each other.

Sonny Barger was asking Daddy

to quit sending his Hells Angels back

on the airplane.

Then Daddy walked me out on the porch.

I said, "What's this guy mowing our yard for?"

And he was a Hells Angel prospect.

He goes, "'Cause I told him to."

-1972, Don Chambers was burned in a drug deal.

He thought he was buying methamphetamine.

In reality, he was being sold bunk baking soda.

As retaliation,

drew these culprits to a meeting,

had them dig their own graves,

told them they needed to go into the grave

so they could go meet Jesus Christ,

and proceeded to execute them.

-They were made to dig their own graves.

Everybody thought that Daddy killed them.

I don't know if Daddy put the order down.

I don't know if Daddy had the gun in his hand,

but I guess it was a message to get across.

-If you look at the Bandidos

and the downfall of their founder, Don Chambers,

it went to a prospect that was having issues

in his prospecting and being hazed,

and he became an informant and went to the police.

-Prospect!

-The Bandidos are known for and differ from other clubs

is their initiation rituals

that are not like the other clubs'.

-Everybody's patch got initiated.

We used to take our colors off, put them on the ground.

Everybody pissed on them. Then we'd wear them home.

-There was one time I was at a place,

and somebody took a poop on the set of colors.

-About 13 people got initiated on a Labor Day

in Ruidoso, New Mexico.

People were throwing up.

One guy had diarrhea, and it's gross.

Cops didn't infiltrate by clubs back then because of that.

No cop was going to stand for that kind of shit.

-This is more than just a motorcycle gang.

Authorities here and in a number of other states

say the Hells Angels have become

a national criminal organization,

more ruthless than even the Mafia.

-When you decide that you want to be a Hells Angel, right?

They take your photo, they distribute,

they fax your photo to all the other chapters.

So, somebody has to look at you to make sure that,

you know, you haven't had a beef with somebody

or that you don't owe any money on the street

or anything like that.

-The Hells Angels were very restrictive.

It was harder to get into the Hells Angels

than the American Army.

-Any prospect has to go through at least a year,

usually longer,

working for the full patch members,

and they are virtual slaves.

-We're like three years from hanging around prospect.

You know, it's a long time, right?

And he would keep you awake.

I saw some weird stuff.

The East End Hells Angels, when he was a prospect,

and he got a blowjob

from a hooker they'd picked up

who didn't have any teeth,

in front of everybody in the clubhouse.

And he said they all started laughing

because he said all the guys are going,

"He's enjoying it. He's enjoying it.

Okay, stop." [ Laughs ]

Well, I saw a prospect from Sherbrooke

with one of the hookers on top of the bar

in intimate relations.

Yeah. Awkward. In front of everyone.

Probably 60, 70 guys.

-They want the prospects to know that in order to get here,

you have to work, you have to be trustworthy,

and you have to be able to put up with anything.

-Members will ask you questions

you have to have the answers for,

and some answers, if you don't have them right,

you'll get bang checked right in your forehead,

punched in your chest

because you need to know certain things.

-The Bandidos, they were much less restrictive,

so they were expanding faster

because they weren't as selective.

-Sonny Barger,

who helped organize the group 21 years ago

and is considered by many to be

the most powerful man in the Hells Angels.

-Sonny figured that our competitors

are going international, right?

Like, we need to make a mark in other countries.

-Normally in Denmark, we drive on a Harley-Davidson.

-Strength is in numbers,

and strength is in presence and territory.

-The Bandidos looked to the rest of the world to expand to,

and a lot of them naturally thought Europe.

A lot of them are quite racist and xenophobic.

But, you know, the European countries have

sort of a step in between.

And a lot of those places took to them very quickly,

particularly the Scandinavian countries --

Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

And the biker gangs became very, very powerful there.

-They've styled themselves as modern-day Vikings,

rival motorcycle gangs involved in a battle

which has spread across Scandinavia.

-At the height of the war,

members of the Hells Angels

killed the Bandidos chapter president

at the Copenhagen airport.

[ Sirens wailing ]

-Because the Bandidos weren't afraid of being the bad guys,

I don't think they had the intelligence or the control

or the discipline that the Hells Angels have.

-Later that same year,

during the Hells Angels annual Viking party,

a Bandido launched a rocket into the Hells Angels headquarters.

A local woman who was an innocent passerby

was killed during the attack.

-People were frightened because anti-tank rockets were used,

automatic weapons were used,

stuff that had been stolen from the military.

The level of destruction was huge.

-These are some of the weapons seized from the bikers.

The police chief in charge of the investigation

says this wasn't just a gangland feud,

it was a war.

-It's a global battle

that's played out in the fields of Europe.

You have the Hells Angels and the Bandidos

fighting over money and turf and the profits from cocaine.

-It was the great Nordic biker war

where Norway and Sweden,

bikers there with the Hells Angels,

were fighting for territory.

You had over 100 casualties.

-But now a truce has been called

between the leader of the Hells Angels

and the head of the rival Bandido gang.

-We've never seen a truce like this in the biker world.

Unfortunately, those friendly handshakes didn't extend

over North America.

-Just as things were winding down in the war in Europe,

things were just starting to heat up in North America

between the Hells Angels and the Bandidos.

-1990s, cocaine is a goldmine.

It's like a blank check for organized crime and the bikers.

-The cocaine business really centered in Quebec and Montreal

because of the port,

because of the transnational smuggling business.

-Stadnick had a reputation of being kind of an odd guy.

-He's a mystery even to people who are in the Hells Angels.

He's quite small. He looks he's jockey's size.

His face is quite marked up

because his motorcycle once blew up on him.

-Even back in high school,

he was known for dressing very flashily.

He had a full length wolf fur coat,

which I'm not even sure was legal at the time.

-He had a customized belt buckle that could flip around

and turn into a knife.

-That belt was special to him.

It was given to him by the Hells Angels

for recognition of what he had done for the club,

and it was huge.

-He takes that sort of thing really seriously.

It isn't just a bit of clothing. It's a sign of respect.

-1992, Stadnick's arrested with $90,000

in a bag he's carrying in the airport, in cash.

-The police found a large sum of money on him,

including some of it in his belt,

and the cops confiscated it.

When it came to trial, they couldn't prove

that it was proceeds of crimes.

But when it was returned to Walter,

it appeared as though the cops had played hockey

with the belt buckle.

And so, he sued for the mental anguish

of having his belt ruined.

-In a calculated show of force,

the Hells Angels rumble into Ontario.

They are going to show police and local gangs

they have the muscle and desire to take over the drug trade.

-Hells Angels wanted to conquer the entire market.

They wanted to be the only distributors of drugs

in all of Canada.

-The bikers are sitting atop this treasure trove

of cocaine riches,

but their rivals are the dreaded Rock Machine.

-The Hells Angels wanted to make it very clear on the street

that you either dealt with them or you didn't deal at all.

You were going to get your drugs from the Hells Angels,

and if not, we're going to kill you.

-It was a turf thing.

If you were going to sell drugs,

you had to go through the Hells Angels.

You had to know a Hells Angel,

or you're going to be in trouble.

-And the rivals didn't want to use them

as their suppliers, as their muscle.

They banded together a group of bar owners

who were also drug dealers with other local gangs

and the Rock Machine to fight the Hells Angels.

-At this point, the Rock Machine was getting destroyed.

-The gangland-style executions

and the bombings began in the summer of 1994.

Since then, 27 people have been blown up or shot dead.

-When the Rock Machine was losing the war,

they knew they needed help and reinforcements.

-The Rock Machine came up with an idea

to pitch the Bandidos on a patch-over alliance

in the middle of their war against the Hells Angels,

and it wasn't until early 2001,

at a ceremony at the Rock Machine's Kingston clubhouse,

that the full patch-over took place

and the Rock Machine officially became Bandidos.

-What worries police trying to stop

the bloody turf war in Quebec

is that the Rock Machine has now cut a deal

to merge with the Bandidos,

the Texas-based archrivals of the Hells Angels.

The concern is that could lead to even more violence.

-Now, suddenly it's not just the Rock Machine

and the Hells Angels battling it out in Montreal.

It's Hells Angels versus the Bandidos.

-Two shootings within an hour and a half of one another.

Both victims were taken to hospital.

Both known to police.

-This bloody biker war has become a constant source

of frustration for police.

-Over the next few years,

we see something like 162 killings in the Montreal area.

I mean, the streets were, like,

filled with ambulances, bombs going off,

like in the worst days of Al Capone

and the Chicago mobsters.

The police decide, "We have to stop this war

between the Hells Angels and the Bandidos.

Let's go for the weaker character."

-Back then, I was working on the anti-gang squad,

and a whole team, even two teams at one point,

were working 24 hours a day on the Bandidos,

called Operation Amigo.

So, we're talking of about at least 40 police officers

full time, including surveillance, phone tappings,

and the detectives writing out the warrants.

That's a lot of manpower, and that's a lot of money.

-So, by the summer of 2002, the authorities in Quebec

are fully immersed into Operation Amigo

and going after the Bandidos with reckless abandon.

-We had everything we needed to take down the Bandidos.

We had the stash with the guns.

We had the stash with the narcotics.

We had the main players. We had surveillance.

We had them on attempted murders.

-Hands on your head!

-Police actually do the Hells Angels' job

and wipe out the Bandidos

by arresting them in huge numbers.

-Investigators say they have been hammering down

on organized crime since September.

-The quantity of narcotics and guns

seized in that operation was quite overwhelming

for a gang that was just starting again.

So, I can imagine a gang that's 20 times bigger,

like the Hells Angels, what they have in stock.

-The remnants of the Bandidos,

many of them actually patch over to the Hells Angels.

-Very seldom we do take down an organization,

and we always see them pop up again.

But in their case, that was over and out.

-So, the Bandidos have been eliminated in Quebec.

They hang on in Ontario.

-After Operation Amigo concluded,

the Bandidos started turning on themselves,

and the internal fighting in the club

led to unimaginable bloodshed.

-After Operation Amigo takes down the Bandidos,

there's only about 15 members left in Canada.

-John Muscedere, or "Boxer," from Toronto

was their new national president

and felt abandoned by the American Bandidos.

They wanted nothing to do with him.

-Boxer was already known as a very unhinged character,

and his fight within the Bandidos

really sent him over the edge, spiraling.

His cocaine abuse got worse,

and he just became more unhinged and more reckless

in his behavior as the time went on.

-Jeff Pike, the leader of the Bandidos in the United States,

sent a very clear cease-and-desist message

to the Bandidos remaining in Canada

to put an end to all of their activities.

-Boxer sent back his patches to Jeff Pike,

decided that they were no longer Bandidos,

and they declared that they were now the No Surrender Crew.

-He wanted to reignite the Bandidos

as a powerful force in Canada.

This was despite the Bandidos in the U.S.

wanting it to disband entirely.

-Boxer doesn't like what he's hearing

from the Bandidos in Texas.

He goes on his own campaign,

e-mailing other Bandidos chapters around the world,

trying to get support for him in the biker war in Canada

that leadership of the Bandidos in Texas want to discontinue.

And Jeff Pike sent an e-mail back to him,

basically telling him to ---- off,

saying, "Hey, you're a Bandido.

You'll do what I tell you to do."

-There's a lot of speculation

that Jeff Pike ordered the execution and murder

of the Bandidos remaining in Canada.

-How you doing?

-Wayne Kellestine had been in a number of gangs.

You know, I hate to say crazy to be Hells Angels,

but he really was turned down from them

because they thought he was too violent and too unpredictable.

-But with Boxer's promotion to the head of the Bandidos Canada,

he became very jealous.

-Oh, my ----ing good God.

I look like I just climbed out of a ----ing, uh,

hillbilly ----ing convention.

-Everybody who knew anything about crime

knew who Wayne Kellestine was.

-Kellestine wanted to be a boss.

He wanted to be a big deal.

-He was really into Nazi Germany.

His farm and its barn were covered in swastikas

and iron crosses and things like that.

-♪ Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles Deutschland ♪

-Allegedly, the U.S. Bandido leadership told Kellestine

that Muscedere and the rest of the No Surrender Crew

were to be killed,

and Kellestine would become the new leader

of the Canadian Bandidos as the reward.

-He had this plan where you murder people

and dump them in the Hells Angels area,

their bodies.

Police turn on the Hells Angels.

Police crack down on the Hells Angels.

Then the Bandidos, they rise up.

-On April 8th, 2006,

Muscedere and seven others go to Kellestine's ranch.

-Wayne Kellestine and a handful of cohorts

massacre eight people, eight members of the Bandidos.

-There's been a lot of speculation

about what happened inside this farmhouse.

OPP investigators believe it was an internal cleansing.

-It was like an assembly line murder, where through a night,

they were taken out one by one and shot.

-The killing was mainly done by Kellestine himself.

He would put a long gun, like a rifle, under the man's shirt

and shoot him in the heart.

-CTV News discovered this video, taken back in 1999,

of one of the men murdered over the weekend,

48-year-old John Muscedere, nicknamed Boxer.

-He was offered a chance to be in with the killers,

and he didn't take it.

He said, "Take me first. I want to go out like a man."

-And Wayne, being such a fan of the Nazis,

made it especially hard

on the Jewish member of the Bandidos, Jamie Flanz,

and kept taunting him throughout the killings,

letting him know that he would be last

just so he'd have to live through

seeing everybody else get killed.

-The eight bodies were placed in cars

and driven to Stafford Line.

-They were left strewn amongst a open field and a farm.

-And I remember calling up the leaders

and asking for a statement,

and they just disowned the activities.

-The end of the Bandidos came at their own hand

when they slaughtered a group of their members overnight.

And who wants to join a club

where it's 50/50 if you get slaughtered or not?

-It was called the Bandidos Massacre.

Each victim shot execution-style.

-Shedden massacre, which shows this was a sanctioned murder.

You are signing the death warrant of your former brothers.

-Did you murder these eight people?

How's that for a question? -[ Chuckles ]

That's a dumb ----ing question. How can you say that?

-Alright, well -- -I ----ing said it.

-Because what -- I'm here,

and I've given you an opportunity to tell me

what you did Friday and Saturday.

Help yourself. -[ Laughs ]

-On October 29th, 2009,

Wayne Kellestine and gang received 44 guilty verdicts

for first-degree murder and four for manslaughter.

-The Shedden massacre just kind of made everybody sick.

Nobody wanted to associate with the Bandidos,

and it actually strengthened the Hells Angels

because their brand looked so much more sophisticated,

cleaner, more efficient than the Bandidos.

-With the Bandidos wiped out,

the Hells Angels looked all the more powerful in Canada.

That was until the Pagan's

started to turn their biker world upside down.

[ Siren wailing ]

-Right now we're in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

Nugent's Tavern,

second home to the Pagan Nation, Elizabeth Chapter.

One-Percenter.

Pagan Norse giant. That's the Pagan center patch.

Live Pagan, die Pagan. LPDP.

-There are five outlaw motorcycle gangs

that we refer to as the Big Five.

You know, they're top-tier operating criminal organizations

Hells Angels, Outlaws, Mongols, Bandidos,

and of course, the Pagan's.

-They're the rivals of the Hells Angels.

The Pagan's were formed in 1959, in Maryland.

Originally a group of motorcycle enthusiasts.

General public is a little more aware

of who the Hells Angels are.

The Pagan's are a little more of an unknown entity

to the general public,

but to law enforcement, it's said the Pagan's are by far

the most violent gang in the world.

-My name is LT Menginie.

My father was one of the original Philadelphia members

of the Pagan's.

He was a motorcycle mechanic for Harley-Davidson,

and he was all about power and money.

Those people wanted to be Pagan's,

and some of them had no choice, you know?

Like, that was their neighborhood,

or their brother already was a Pagan,

or their father was.

The Pagan's used to be pussy, power, drugs, and a good time.

-The Pagan's earned their money

through a number of illicit activities,

including arms trafficking, drug trafficking,

extortion, loan sharking,

even some human trafficking, and especially drug dealing.

There's some evidence that they're among

the largest meth dealers in the country.

-Hells Angels and the Pagan's been feuding for a long time.

This goes far back as to the '50s.

There's been Pagan's killed by Hells Angels,

and there's been Hells Angels allegedly killed by Pagan's.

-When the Hells Angels come into a community

and they're looking to recruit, bad things happen.

-The seat of power for the Pagan's in America

forever has been in Philadelphia.

-Everybody tried to get Philly as a stronghold.

Philly's Pagan. Philly's Pagan as ----.

-If you're a criminal group, it's valuable territory.

You're a quick drive from New York.

You're a quick drive from Baltimore.

You're a relatively quick drive to Boston.

You're right on the water.

There's a port of call there.

-Hells Angels pioneered this tactic, okay?

It ----ing works.

What you do is when you move into a new area,

you shake everybody's hand, you bring money with you.

Hey, you know, buy the bar out. You come as a friend.

9 out of 10, you got a little club around there

where they get starstruck or whatever you have.

"Yeah, we're hanging out with the Hells Angels.

The Hells Angels respect us."

The Hells Angels don't ----ing respect you.

They're just waiting for you guys to get greedy

so they can find a break in the matrix

and patch guys in.

And now that's why we call them maggots --

well, I apologize.

Long Island likes to call them maggots

because, well, they're maggots. Parasites.

They breed, and then they're there, you know?

So, that's where they get that name from.

-When the Hells Angels infiltrated Philly,

they looked for someone who was a vulnerable target

and made them betray the club.

-My father went to jail in '82,

but when he was locked up in Texas,

he was locked up with a Hells Angel.

Hells Angels have been trying to come into Philadelphia forever.

They said, okay,

they're going to give him a couple hundred thousand dollars

to start this chapter.

Next thing you know, my father quits the Pagan's,

brings all these people over with him to become Hells Angels,

and then they take their Pagan colors,

bring him to another Pagan's house late at night,

and put them in a trash can and call him

and tell him to go back and look in a trash can.

Because if you quit the One-Percenter club

and you still have your colors, they're going to come for him,

and they're going to come hard.

-If you disrespect them, violate their rules,

there's going to be a huge price to pay,

and that can be a life.

The Hells Angels pushed into Philadelphia,

which the Pagan's were not going to stand for,

and they didn't stand for it.

-The Pagan's are a more instinctive, violent biker,

and the desire to do whatever they have to do

to win a conflict.

-The Pagan's were putting so much pressure

on the Hells Angels in Philly,

and just, like, just doing drive-bys

and just driving by putting pressure.

One of the Pagan's that switched over with my father,

that was the VP of the Hells Angels,

got murdered on the Schuylkill Expressway.

All these things start happening.

It didn't look good for the Philadelphia Hells Angels.

Hellraiser's Ball in Long Island, New York happens.

It's an annual party.

And that's when the Philadelphia Pagan's

were just switching over to Hells Angels

that my dad was taking with him.

They were going up to Hellraiser's Ball

to get their new Hells Angels collar.

It's like a christening.

The Pagan's got wind of it,

and a hundred of them went up there

and stormed the place.

-They began turning over tables

and initiated a riot between the two gangs.

Almost all the gang members were carrying weapons,

which led to the deadly biker brawl.

-Sonny Barger was there that day at the Hellraiser's Ball

when the Pagan's came in and started shooting

and attacking people.

-You had the Pagan's and the Hells Angels

swinging it out with bats, guns, and knives,

you know, in the banquet hall, as well as in the parking lot.

It was a bloody, bloody affair.

-Six shots were fired.

When it was over, a 50-year-old Pagan member,

Robert Rutherford of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, was killed.

-The only reason why it didn't work was the God damn door.

It had one of those God damn turnstile doors.

That shit bottlenecked everybody.

[ Laughs ]

That's all she wrote.

When you got the crown,

everybody wants to beef with you

because, well, it gives you notoriety

to have issues with the guys whose name is everywhere, right?

Heavy lies the crown.

-Waiting in the wings during this period of time

is now arguably one of the most dangerous biker presidents

in the world today --

a Pagan named Keith Richter, also known as Conan.

-Conan is a lifelong Pagan,

was indicted in the late '90s in a huge racketeering case

involving several Pagan's, and he served 16 years.

He was released in 2012

and was able to become the leader

of the Pagan's nationally.

Conan is one of the most dangerous bikers in the world.

-Keith "Conan the Barbarian" Richter has had a meteoric rise

in the Pagan's

and has a passionate desire

to be the Sonny Barger of the East Coast.

-I end up having a confidential source

who was a former member of the Hells Angels.

He said, "Listen, Conan, he's a criminal mastermind,

and you need to be very careful when dealing with Conan."

I was shocked by that because former Hells Angels member

give that kind of credit to a rival.

Definitely took the name Conan from the movies.

He's a tall guy. He's very well built.

He dominated the biker world, dominated the Pagan's,

and nobody wants to directly challenge him.

-Conan is a good brother. He's a righteous brother.

One time we were sleeping in his house,

and there's probably, like, eight people sleeping on couches

or on the carpet, on this and that.

And he goes to me, he goes, "Brother, come over here.

You lay right here on this ----ing bear rug.

You use that bear head as a ----ing pillow."

And I was like, "Alright."

-I call him Con Man.

He barbarically conned everybody into thinking

that he was ----ing a righteous Pagan.

And then he was, in fact, not.

Something ain't right with that man.

-Most of the members of the mother club

have aspirations to be the top Pagan,

and how you get there is just like any other organization.

It's politics.

-Part of Conan Richter's plan to take power in the Pagan's

was to undermine his predecessor,

went by the nickname Tyrone the Terrible,

and Conan hired some private investigators

to find dirt on him

and told him he had to step down.

And if he wasn't going to step down,

they were going to kill him.

-You come in with some paperwork

and you say, "I hired a private investigator.

I found out about this mother----er."

That should have been a red flag right there.

Private investigators are typically ex-cops.

Whether he fabricated it or not,

he had enough guys with him that believed in him.

Then he becomes president.

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-The blue wave was supposed to be

this giant wave of Pagan's

washing from one end of the country

to the other end of the country.

So, under Conan's regime as president,

they started patching in lots of clubs,

lots of members.

-Primarily, what the biggest piece of the conflict

between the Hells Angels and the Pagan's is drugs,

it's money, but it's really territory.

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-Any time the Hells Angels and the Pagan's

or any one of these rival gangs meet up with each other,

there's a propensity for violence.

There was an incident at a gas station

not too far from the Hells Angels clubhouse.

-Newark Hells Angels clubhouse. [ Chuckles ]

The creme de la creme, right?

So, this is their home.

Well, you got the gas station up the street

where that incident happened.

-The Pagan's were looking for the Hells Angels,

and then they found the victim at a gas station.

An individual, to the best of our knowledge,

was not a member of the Hells Angels,

but he was at the club and had been seen there.

An individual gets out with a small baseball bat

and begins to whale on him.

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And then he's joined by four or five other Pagan's.

Law enforcement identified a guy by the name of Hellboy

as the one who committed the crime.

-Hellboy was an MMA fighter.

He had a reputation as being one

of the toughest Pagan's on the streets.

He wasn't the kind of guy that anyone wanted to tangle with.

He was involved in a lot of illicit crimes.

Crystal meth, drugs.

He's a dangerous guy.

-He broke the guy's clavicle.

Several bones were broken.

If it wasn't for his helmet,

he probably would have been dead.

-What happened with Hellboy?

He got ----ing charged. [ Chuckles ]

Hellboy got charged for beating that man on ----ing camera.

It was pretty cut and dry.

I mean, it was live on TV. [ Chuckles ]

Live, direct.

-The funny thing about it is that, you know,

it happens in the gas station

where the Hells Angels have a reputation

for jumping and beating up people on motorcycles.

And then when one of their own falls victim to it,

they suddenly have him testify

to put people like me in prison.

-Conan's blue wave expansion was a direct assault

to the power of the Hells Angels.

-Hells Angels are a constant threat to them.

If they can get bigger, get stronger, get more members,

they can stand up to the Hells Angels

even more than they do.

And it's spreading that blue color of the Pagan's

as far as they can spread it.

-They went from a club that was predominantly

just an east coast club,

with members down from Florida,

up through New York, etc.,

to now a club that has members as far as --

at least to hear them tell it -- Alaska and Puerto Rico.

That brings trouble and has brought trouble

across the country.

-According to my sources, seminal meeting

of biker chiefs and the outlaws,

the Hells Angels and the Bandidos convene

to discuss creating an alliance to combat the Pagan's

and their blue wave expansion.

But as Conan's blue wave mandate spreads into Hells Angels,

Bandidos, and Outlaws territory,

he's also changing Pagan laws.

One that raises eyebrows --

retired cops are now allowed to become full-patched Pagan's.

-Red flag was that the bylaw is now allowed for anybody,

corrections or ex-police to join the club.

Oh, yeah. He changed that, which to me was a red flag.

You know this is an outlaw club, right?

What do you mean, you're bringing the law

into the outlaw club?

-He was picked up on a gun charge

following a Pagan event in Lancaster, Pennsylvania,

where he was found to have a loaded semi-automatic handgun

in his vehicle.

-I wasn't part of the investigation,

so I don't know the evidence that they had

or how it actually played out.

I will say this -- sooner or later,

you know, even the hardest-core gang member or biker --

sooner or later, everybody talks.

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-Why would the Feds waste three years,

taxpayer money, unlimited surveillance

and all this other crap

just to give him 33 months on a gun charge

that they caught him interstate trafficking

of a firearm with commerce. Right?

Career crook. Convicted felon.

Leader of a gang.

Well, he should have been looking at least

120 months, off bat, from the dick.

33 months? That's astronomical.

Lil Wayne did a ----ing year in Rikers Island

for getting caught with a gun, and he's a ----ing entertainer.

He's not even a threat.

So, how the hell does Conan,

career crook, get 33 months?

Explain that one to me.

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-In the 1990s, Conan ended up being convicted

on several racketeering charges.

The FBI was involved, and he got busted.

They got a bunch of info from Conan's wiretaps.

-Red flag.

How do the Feds know so much?

You're national president of the club, my guy.

Why are you talking so freely on the ----ing phone?

You know better.

Is it because it's comfortable for you?

That's your way of giving somebody up

without giving them up?

It's called dry snitching.

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-Everyone's wondering

what's going to happen when Conan gets out.

There's some people that think that when he's released

that he will go back to assuming his role as national president.

One thing about Keith "Conan" Richter that's very clear

is that he is a Pagan through and through,

and that upon his release, he's more than likely

going to be back involved with the club.

-I don't see them, like, allowing him

to take the reins again

because greed is a mother----er.

Hey, man, hopefully, you know,

he lives a ----ing dandy old life somewhere,

retires out on the beach,

maybe chills with a couple of Hells Angels

and he dies out there,

croaks out of COVID or something, who knows?

Hopefully he's not the last of the Mohicans.

He's a fraud.

He's a con man.

That's it.

-Conan is set to be released in 2025,

and it's something that the Pagan motorcycle gang

and its members are really excited about,

and they think his release will be seismic.

-Gregory Woolley was a go-to-guy

to get dirty work done.

-He became close to Maurice "Mom" Boucher.

And this is perplexing in the sense that Mom Boucher

was a pretty rabid Nazi sympathizer, racist,

white nationalist.

-So, here you have this guy

who's got his feet in both camps,

the Mafia and the Hells Angels.

-Greg Woolley was on a collision course

with one of the most powerful

up-and-coming Hells Angels leaders in the world,

Marty Robert.