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Bizarre experiences were happening to me

that I couldn't explain.

And it's starting to make me feel like I was crazy.

Flash if you want to connect with us.

And right when I say that, bang!

Nobody's ever gonna believe this.

They were moving just very slowly across the sky.

I'm seeing it. We're seeing it.

Why me? Why am I experiencing these things?

What-- what do I have to offer?

It was an energy and power

that I felt and saw

that was different than I've ever seen before.

At the end of the day, I just want to know

what I saw, on that day,

on that island.

I just want answers.

I believe...

you witnessed a UFO.

[woman 1] I see it again.

I see it. I see it.

[woman 2] Oh my God. Holy [bleep].

[man 1] You've gotta see this. You've gotta see this.

[narrator] Around the world,

people are witnessing and capturing

unexplained phenomena everyday.

There's a feeling you get,

the hairs on your arms and your neck kind of stand up.

[man 2] What the [bleep] is that?

There was a lot that pointed me in the direction

of something non human.

[woman 3] Oh [bleep], there it goes.

[man 3 speaking]

[narrator] And they are looking for answers.

It left me with a lot of... questions.

The recent release of thousands of pages

of declassified US government documents,

whistleblower testimony...

[man 4] These objects had been observed for over two weeks,

coming down from over 80,000 feet.

[narrator] ...and shocking new evidence could hold the answer.

Can you confirm that's what it was?

-Yes, that's what it was. -Okay.

Now, two expert investigators will use this new information

and their expertise, to unlock the truth.

I'm experiencing chills over here.

Mitch Horowitz is an author and historian,

known for his investigative research

into the unexplained.

You all have had some very mysterious experiences,

The video was extremely compelling.

And Chrissy Newton is a journalist

and authority on space, science, and the unknown.

We were told that this was a secret location.

Absolutely.

When I looked up, I saw a UFO in the sky.

Thousands of experiencers came forward and submitted

their personal stories and evidence for examination.

These beings were so gloriously beautiful.

Hoping to finally separate fact from fiction.

Based on everything

that you've brought to the table...

you witnessed a UFO.

[Mitch] In evaluating a UFO account,

what I personally take into consideration

is the question, "is this a source

that I can trust?"

[Chrissy] First thing I look for is date, time and location.

Second one is testimony from the person

who had the first account in social media coverage

or any type of local media coverage

on the same day of the sighting.

I'm looking forward to speaking with John.

We're moving up uh, the Atlantic to Maine.

Yeah, he's a lobster man.

Maine is a mysterious state.

Yeah. Oh yeah, it's a super mysterious state.

-[Mitch] Hey, come in. -[John] How's it going?

-I'm Mitch. How you doing? -I'm John.

-Chrissy. Nice to meet you, John. -John, nice to meet you.

[Mitch] Thanks for being here.

Yeah. Thanks for having me.

Absolutely.

Well, let me tell you what we're going to do here today.

We have some of the details of your UFO experience.

And we want to really hear the story directly

from you to make sure we haven't missed any details

or anything that's personally important.

My name is John Leavitt.

Most of the things in my life, I can explain

This is one of the things that I can't.

I live in Portland, Maine.

Maine's a pretty quiet place,

and we like to keep it that way.

I'm a normal dude.

You know, I like hiking.

I like working out.

I like hanging out with my friends.

I love my wife more than anything in the world.

UFOs are not something that I'm into.

It was like October 30th, 2013.

It was uh, a really

unusual October day.

It was a warm day. It was like 80ยฐ.

And uh, my friends and I decided to go camping

off the coast of Cape Elizabeth, Maine,

to an island called Richmond Island.

It was a great day. We had a lot of fun.

We got food and sandwiches and we went swimming.

We were all having just a great time,

and day kind of turned into night.

So a bunch of us all just went for a walk around the island.

On that particular island,

during the summer, there is a caretaker house.

We just walked up to it to check it out

because no one was there.

We were just kind of hanging out,

kicking it by the porch and talking,

and one of us noticed a light in the sky.

We all just kept talking

and just kind of brushed it off.

But then it kept coming closer to us.

And it kept getting bigger.

And pardon my language,

but we were all like, "What the [bleep] is this?"

It just kind of hovered above us.

It was probably 15, 20 feet away from us,

and it was like a giant light.

And you couldn't see the shape of it at this point or anything.

It was just a giant light.

So we started to walk off and...

just like that, the light just went away.

It just kind of like, slowly went off.

So we're a little shooken up,

but you know, us gentlemen kept talking

and our bravado got the best of us.

And we're like, well, yeah, if that craft landed,

we would have, you know, shown them our--

We thought it was over, you know,

and we just thought this was going to be a great story

to tell our grandkids or whatever.

But it wasn't over.

And this is the truly terrifying part.

It came back.

And it kind of didn't gradually come back.

It just came back. And the light was on us.

We're all jumping on the ground, terrified.

And I look up

and all I see is just this huge light.

I could feel some type of just, energy.

I'm the type of guy that doesn't really back down.

But this presence, it was an energy and power

that I felt and saw

that was different than I've ever seen before.

When I looked up at it,

it kind of almost metamorphosized

into like a, a-- almost like a fighter jet

Like a, like a-- an arrow sphere, you know?

And then that's when it just took off.

The fastest thing I've ever seen in my life.

I mean, it was gone in a second, out of sight.

It was definitely terrifying.

I think if I had been alone,

I don't-- I don't know if I would have ever

brought the story up,

but the fact that, like,

my good friends, who I know to be

very credible,

very honest and capable human beings,

you know, saw the same thing too.

I think it would be really great to understand what I saw.

[Mitch] What can we do for you?

What are you hoping to get out of...

this discussion today?

There's a lot of different ways my mind thinks and,

and I wish I could just know what it was,

so I could at least put a little closure on that.

-Chrissy has worked with analysts... -Mm-hmm.

...who have taken a look

at the information that you submitted.

John Leavitt provided the date, time and location.

And a detailed description of his encounter to the research team.

But he did not have any photographic or video evidence to submit.

Was there a reason why you weren't able

to take a photo or a video by chance?

It was fear.

And, "what is this?

Let's get to safety," not,

"let's take a picture of it."

That's the level of fear I think I was at.

Fear of the unknown, I guess.

-Hmm. -Yeah.

So we looked at your date, time and location,

and we cross checked it with multiple UFO databases.

There was nothing that we've seen in that area

that could relate to be a UFO.

We also looked at flight data, satellite, rocket launch data

to see if there's any correlations as well.

At that time,

we didn't see any other airplanes or aircraft.

That means that there was nothing that we've seen in that area

that could be a plane or a drone or anything else during that time.

There was nothing concrete that explains what you saw.

But I don't have video. I don't have photo.

Unfortunately,

I just don't have enough data to say that it's a UFO.

I have my own outlook.

I strongly disagree with Chrissy's assessment.

[Chrissy] I wish I had more data.

Sometimes you have to throw out the rule book.

[woman 3] Me and my kids were driving, and...

from the back of the car I can see

this string of lights in the sky.

What in the [bleep] is in the sky?

[woman 4] It's moving.

[woman 3] Yeah, it's going.

I don't have video. I don't have photo.

Unfortunately, I just don't have enough data to say that it's a UFO.

I have my own outlook.

First of all,

as witnesses, as far as I'm concerned,

you know the outdoors.

You know the terrain.

You had friends with you, two of them,

who are trained marine biologists.

Furthermore,

there is a long history

of these sightings in the New England area

that predate the modern UFO era.

There was a book written in 1853

by a New England-based author

named Andrew Jackson Davis.

It was called The Present Age and the Inner Life.

And in that book are three vivid illustrations

of brilliant, mysterious, lights in the sky.

Not entirely unrelated

to what you and your colleagues witnessed.

And things that were also witnessed

by large groups

of perfectly responsible people.

Then we've got the 1976 report by local Ken Putnam,

who witnessed a 50 foot UFO

fly into an alleged portal on Pine Hill Mountain.

The US Navy sent a P3 Orion,

a surveillance aircraft to the same mountain.

and it ended up crashing.

At the time, it was one of the Navy's most technologically advanced aircraft.

We've also got a 1979 law enforcement incident

where three police officers from two neighboring towns

reported seeing the exact same lights

making their way over the Maine coastline.

And we've got 3000 pages

of recently declassified CIA documents.

This has been going on for generations and generations.

Oh wow.

Given your gravity as a witness,

the vividness of your testimony,

the testimony of people who were with you...

The area has a very, very,

rich history and culture

as much as the town of Roswell itself does.

I feel confident, personally speaking, saying,

you saw a UFO.

[exhales]

I strongly disagree with Chrissy's assessment

that there is no evidence.

This is one of those cases

where sometimes you have to throw out

the rule book and go with history.

And the credible account

of not one but multiple witnesses.

So for this case, I have to say yes.

It was a UFO that John witnessed.

You've added to the annals of the research

of this very, very important topic.

It's definitely one of the most

interesting things that's happened in my life.

[Chrissy] For sure. [John] You guys are awesome.

The research that you put into it, it's really great.

-[Chrissy] That's awesome. -[Mitch] You're terrific, my man.

-[John] You are too. [chuckles] -[Mitch] This was great.

-[Mitch] Thank you. -[John] Nice to meet you, too.

-[John] Take care. -[Mitch] All right. Thank you, man.

Yep.

For me and the people that were there that night,

It's very real, and it happened.

His story is unbelievable.

It really is unbelievable,

-but I just don't have enough to go on. -Sure.

[John] 3000 declassified documents

from the CIA,

to me supports

a lot of evidence that there was something.

That is a, uh, as far as I'm concerned

an impressive witness.

I wish I could say more to him.

-Of course. -You know, I wish I had more data.

I think we really made the right choice coming to Roswell.

Small town.

Big stories.

[Mitch] So I have a question for you.

When you encounter a witness

who has had multiple experiences,

does that heighten or detract

from the witness's credibility?

I don't know if it detracts from the credibility,

because we do see there's sections within the brain

that, for some reason, when people have encounters,

those areas are over-enlarged.

And finding out later on

that this is potentially hereditary.

-[Mitch] Welcome, y'all. How's it going? -[Chrissy] Hi.

-Chrissy, nice to meet you. -Mitch, how you doing?

[Chrissy] Nice to meet you.

You all, both individually and as a family

have had some very mysterious experiences.

Experiences can be common

or can even be hereditary among families.

What we wanted to ask, first and foremost,

in your own words, you briefly tell us

what your experience has been.

Okay, so...

[Ava] Since I was a child I've had weird experiences,

and I don't really talk about them because, you know, I don't want to be ridiculed.

And you know, looked at like I'm crazy.

So I always kept everything to myself.

When I was 12 years old, I looked out the window

and I had seen this really big, saucer-like shape.

And it had, like,

all these different color lights on it.

The lights were like green and blue and yellow and red.

And, I started hearing like, these voices.

But I didn't know where the voices were coming from.

And then, I've seen these three beings.

They were putting their fingers on the window.

And I put my three fingers on the window as well.

And now I ran to my mother and I was like,

"Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, get the camera, get the camera."

And by the time we got back to the window, it was gone.

It was completely gone.

We were scared.

We were nervous.

What if they come for us?

It was never spoken about ever again.

Like I don't know why we never

talked about it, but we just never did.

[Mitch] Let's talk about your most recent experience.

We'd like to hear directly from you all

what it was you encountered in the car one night.

On September 21st 2023,

uh, me and my kids were driving down Route 739.

And from the back of the car, I can see

this string of lights in the sky.

They're pointing, they're looking

and I'm trying to bend in all kinds of directions.

I'm like, what are they seeing?

There was no edges at all,

just lights, just a string of lights.

[Ava] It had to be at least...

[Marjorie] Yeah, but eight to ten lights.

We are all trying to capture this thing

on the phone.

[Marjorie] I'm seeing it. We're seeing it.

And I was like, "hope somebody's getting this."

Like, I really need this photo.

I really need this video because nobody's ever gonna believe this.

[Shane] We didn't know what it was.

It didn't look like anything we've ever seen.

And I was like, "What the hell is that?"

We have pulled over, and I'm sticking my head

right out the window with my phone out.

I'm being told, "record, record." I'm like, "I've got it. I'm on it."

They were moving just very slowly across the sky.

[Marjorie] What in the [bleep] is in the sky today?

I'm seeing it. We're seeing it.

There were a lot of lights. No blinking,

um, in a perfect static line,

all moving together in unison

very slowly in its diagonal path.

[Marjorie] That's not stars.

Cars passing.

Like, there's other stars and there's [bleep] and that.

-[Shane] It's moving. -[Marjorie] Yeah, it's going.

[Shane] It's going above us.

And it started to just... fade out.

Just fade away.

[Marjorie] He's disappearing. He went above us and he's [bleep] gone.

- [Marjorie] I got good footage of that [bleep] thing though. - [Ava] You got it?

[Marjorie] I got good ass footage.

When we did the video analysis,

I have to say to you...

As I'm videotaping the craft, I audibly ask the craft.

Flash if you want to connect with us.

[Ava] On September 21st 2023, me and my kids were driving

and from the back of the car I can see

this string of lights in the sky.

I'm seeing it. We're seeing it.

There were a lot of lights, no blinking,

um, in a perfect static line,

all moving together in unison

very slowly in its diagonal path.

-It's moving. -Yeah, it's going.

It's going above us.

It started to just... fade out.

Just fade away.

[Marjorie] He's disappearing. It ain't above us--

Why me? Why am I experiencing these things?

What-- what do I have to offer?

So you all have stepped up in a very public way, with your story.

What is it that you hope we can provide?

What are you looking for?

We've seen these things, like, about so many times,

all different types of saucers, all different types of things.

And we just honestly want confirmation about

whether or not these are UFOs

-or some other, some other type of thing. -Other beings, yeah, right.

Let me give you a sense of what we try to accomplish here.

We have the video evidence that you have shared.

Chrissy has analyzed this material with a team of researchers,

and the results will help me come to a decision.

So one of the first things we do is, we look at video and photo.

So we have cell phone video.

Yeah.

-[Marjorie] It's moving. -[Ava] Yeah, it's going.

-[Shane] It's going above us. -[Marjorie] Okay.

[Ava] That's not stars.

[narrator] Ava and her family submitted a 45-second clip of their encounter

that occurred on September 21st 2023 in Pennsylvania for review.

I love to have it because it gives us an idea.

So you can say, "Hey, this is what I saw."

So other people can relate to see if they've seen the same thing.

So when we did the video analysis,

we determined that...

It wasn't faked or it wasn't manipulated in any way.

Uh-hm.

And then we get into date, time and location.

-And we have that, right? -Yeah.

So we do cross analysis of databases, right?

To see if there is any other sightings in that region.

And we found out...

that there was multiple sightings

within that region.

[narrator] On the same night that Ava and her family witnessed the lights,

Chrissy's team found 24 similar reports

recorded by other witnesses in the area.

-[man 1] Holy cow. -[man 2] What the hell is it?

So let me ask you one question.

Let's go back to what you saw.

How many lights did you see in a row?

[Marjorie] Six to 12.

-[Ava] I'd say about 12. - [Chrissy] You said 6.

-I said eight to ten. -Eight to ten?

-Yeah. -Yeah, I'd say 12. It was a lot.

Yeah.

So we did a freeze frame of your video.

[mysterious music playing]

We saw that it was 22 lights,

-Twenty-two? -What?

[suspenseful music playing]

When we freeze framed and saw those 22 string of lights,

we looked at NORAD data to see if we could find anything

that might potentially correlate with what you saw.

Hm. Okay.

[suspenseful music playing]

I'm gonna show you a few photos.

Does this look like what you saw?

[suspenseful music playing]

Yeah, it looks very similar to that.

And it was brighter.

But it looks very similar.

[Chrissy] What about this one?

-[Shawn] Yeah, that's-- That's definitely it. -[Ava] That was it.

It looks just like that, exactly like that.

So here's the thing.

When we looked at NORAD tracking

on September 19th,

two days before your family sighting,

we did see something.

[intense music playing]

Starlink had a launch.

It's called Group 6-17.

[suspenseful music playing]

[narrator] Starlink is an Internet satellite

developed by Elon Musk's SpaceX.

It orbits the Earth in a synchronized formation.

Often appearing as a linked chain of lights in the sky.

Though the 6-17 launch occurred two days before Ava's sighting,

the satellite string was visible for nearly ten days.

[suspenseful music playing]

You're not the only person that noticed this sighting.

As witnesses, as far as I'm concerned, you all are impeccable.

But the data is definitive.

You did not witness a UFO.

Oh, man. [sighs]

It kind of sucks because I was kind of hoping, you know...

-It sucks, really. -...it was really something, you know?

-[Chrissy] What we call that is an IFO. -[Ava] Yeah.

- [Chrissy] You've identified a flying object. - [Ava] Yeah.

[Chrissy] Sometimes we want an identified flying object

for the fact that knowing that you can identify it

helps us to be able to figure out

-ones that we can't identify. -[Mitch] Exactly.

We can't thank you guys enough for being public,

stepping up with this story.

I know you've gotten some answers today that are mundane.

But the point is to keep searching, and build a record.

It's there. It sucks.

It sucks that it wasn't what I wanted it to be.

-Bye, bye. -Safe travels.

It clears up one thing, but...

I still have all the rest of the UFOs

that I've seen in my life to, you know,

-really try to figure out-- -Right, this one may have been a satellite,

but who's to say what we've seen before was or was not?

They've had other experiences.

And, um, checking one box doesn't mean checking all of them.

We have to remember that.

[calm music playing]

[techno music playing]

Well, hello, my man.

-Have a seat, please. -Yeah.

Thank you for meeting with me.

-Thanks for being here, man. -Yeah, of course.

Uh, Where-- Where is home? Where are you from?

Uh, now, Cottonwood, Arizona, just right outside of Sedona.

Please, tell us the story of your experience in your own terms.

Yeah, absolutely.

Uh, it's good to have someone to talk about it with, to be honest.

-[Mitch] That's what we're here for. -Yeah.

[mysterious music playing]

My name is Juergen Hess.

And I think that aliens saved my life.

[upbeat music playing]

[Juergen] I was giving a friend of mine a ride home one night.

And we were going 80 miles an hour in an SUV in the fast lane.

She said something to me and I looked at her, answered her,

and when I looked back, all the cars in front of us had come to a stop.

I shouted at her,

"We're gonna hit."

I hit my foot on the brakes, the tires locked up,

and the last thing I did was crank the steering wheel to the side and ducked.

And there was a flash of light.

I was videotaping one night,

and I audibly asked the craft.

[intense music playing]

It wasn't blinking until I asked the question.

[suspenseful music playing]

I'm not making anything up.

All the cars in front of us had come to a stop.

I shouted at her, "We're gonna hit."

I hit my foot on the brakes, the tires locked up,

and the last thing I did was,

crank the steering wheel to the side and ducked.

And there was a flash of light.

[somber music playing]

And the next thing we know, we're sitting upright,

driving 80 miles an hour still,

now in the carpool lane, with all those cars behind us.

[pensive music playing]

It was impossible.

It was something I couldn't understand.

It wasn't weird enough to make me think, "Oh! It's aliens!"

[chuckles] Like, you know?

But the bizarre thing was that,

more things kept happening to me that I couldn't explain.

And then there was this one night.

[suspenseful music playing]

I woke up in an extreme panic.

[gasps]

And the sheet got pulled up over my head

and back tight.

So much so, that it pulled my forehead back.

My instant reaction was my hands reached up,

grabbed it and pulled it down.

And when that happened, I froze.

And I couldn't move any part of my body.

I couldn't move my eyeballs. Nothing.

And I've heard that expression "frozen with fear" before,

and that's the only way I could describe it at the time.

I was literally frozen in fear.

[eerie music playing]

At that point, I realized there's something more

going on than we understand.

I knew there was something in my room that night.

But I had nothing to go on for myself.

You know, I can't just personally decide whether or not it's aliens.

I needed to be able to have an encounter or something to support that.

And you know, that's when I moved to Sedona.

With the UFO phenomena in the Sedona area,

you can see so much activity on a regular basis

that I went there specifically to try to see UFOs,

[narrator] The history of Sedona's association with UFOs dates back decades,

with reports of mysterious lights

and unidentified flying objects

frequently documented in the region.

Sedona's skies continue to fuel fascination and speculation

about the existence of extraterrestrial life.

I packed up everything that I could fit in my car.

And I moved out there from Los Angeles.

That's when it really escalated, was at that point.

When you're there, it feels very different.

I was going out and starting to capture these unidentified craft.

And one of the things I noticed is,

a lot of the craft have the ability...

...to flash a really bright light.

I mean, to where it's the brightest thing in the sky when it flashes.

'Cause there's no handbook on this kind of research

or these type of encounters.

So it's a lot of hit and miss.

January 2nd 2024.

It was about 6:55 in the winter.

It was such an unexplainable experience.

I was videotaping one night.

So I'm taping a really dim craft.

I audibly asked the craft.

[suspenseful music playing]

And sure enough, the craft flashes so bright,

you can-- I mean, it becomes the brightest

spot of light in the sky for a moment.

And you wouldn't think

you could just ask a question and get an answer.

[Juergen] Flash if you want to connect with us.

So we need to get over the whole "Is it real or is it not" thing.

They're so real that I can take people

and show them to them any night there's not clouds.

This phenomena lets us have evidence.

Obviously, you're very committed to this experience.

-You relocated your home. -Yep.

Uh, to dive deeper into this phenomenon.

And you've also submitted evidence.

-In this case, video evidence. -Yes.

[narrator] Juergen Hess submitted a 14-second long video

that he recorded on January 2nd, 2024

that shows a light moving across the sky

that appears to flash in response to his question.

[Mitch] Chrissy and her colleagues have analyzed video evidence.

-Right. -And I want to turn it over to her.

-It'd be great if we could hear-- -I would love to hear that.

So one of the first things we did was look at flight data

for that date, and time, and location.

And it showed there was no air traffic

over the location of where you had your sighting.

And then we looked at satellite data.

The satellite data showed

no visible satellites.

We had two different experts look at this.

And...

One of our analysts was curious to see

if it potentially would be the International Space Station.

Did you ever think that it possibly could be?

Uh, it's always on my mind.

I have seen the ISS before in person.

Um, it goes in a straight line, moves at the same speed.

It is pretty bright.

Uh, you do notice it.

Um, I've never seen it reply to a question, though.

We did find, though,

the International Space Station

was over Europe at that point in time.

Oh! Okay, good. Yeah.

One of our other analysts did come to us and say that...

They thought that it could be a rocket booster

that was entering the atmosphere.

I'm not-- I mean, it was going upwards.

So I'm not sure how a rocket falling goes up?

[narrator] Rocket boosters help propel rockets into orbit

and then typically fall back into the Earth's atmosphere,

where they eventually incinerate.

However, as debris such as a rocket booster falls,

it rotates and reflects the sun's light,

creating a blinking pattern.

This pattern will continue as the debris moves across the sky.

We noticed, though, with the spinning,

light might catch off it, light might reflect off it.

So that potentially could be something

that we're seeing from that blinking indication.

[somber music playing]

For me, that is an almost incomprehensible

amount of coincidence.

That a piece of debris

could only make flashes that are so bright

when it's being asked questions.

I'd have to have it explained to me in a more--

In a way that made a little more sense as to how it could do that.

[intense music playing]

When I look at the analysis and the report,

and I look at the evidence and I look at the video,

I have to say that...

[Morse code beeping]

[reporter 1] Headline edition, July 8th 1947.

It was nicely hushed up.

[reporter 2] Army Air Force officers reported

that one of the strange disks have been found and inspected

sometime last week.

The disc landed at a ranch in Corona, New Mexico.

That's a goddamn spaceship.

You get the hell out of here and you didn't see anything,

and you don't talk to anybody.

[reporter 2] And the rancher turned it over to the Air Force.

The craft had burst open.

But it looked like unrolled tin foil

that these other three creatures were laying.

[reporter 2] He says that it was "so battered."

And he described it as being made of some sort of tin foil.

When we got up to it,

there were four bodies there, not human.

In fact, he said, the skin would look like

they could almost see through it, almost transparent.

[reporter 2] The Army may be getting to the bottom of all this talk

about the so-called flying saucer.

We noticed with the spinning,

light might reflect off it.

So that potentially could be something

that we're seeing from that blinking indication.

That is an almost incomprehensible

amount of coincidence.

That a piece of debris

could only make flashes that are so bright

when it's being asked questions.

I'd have to have it explained to me in a more--

In a way that made a little more sense as to how it could do that.

[intense music playing]

How long did you see the object blinking for?

Well, it wasn't blinking until I asked the question.

So I was watching the object for about 30 seconds.

Before answering the question,

and it had not made any blinks.

[suspenseful music playing]

Just to confirm that one blink was the only type of flash,

or blink that happened in that one video.

Correct. That's the only flash that craft made. Yep.

[narrator] In the video Juergen submitted,

the object blinks only once before disappearing,

ruling out the space debris theory.

[suspenseful music playing]

Did the object ever change direction,

or did it stay in a straight line?

Um, that object traveled in a straight line.

-Did it keep going, though? -It did.

[stammers] It kept going.

That one went in a straight line, finally disappeared

-when it got to about the top of the sky. -Okay.

Uh, we wa-- I watched it kind of,

maybe ten degrees off the horizon.

How long did you observe it traveling for?

It covered that amount in maybe a minute, that night?

Yeah. I'd say they move at different speeds.

Yeah, they're not all the same.

I've seen some going so slow.

[suspenseful music playing]

I'm not making anything up.

So when I'm looking at this information

and hearing your testimony,

and I look at the evidence and I look at the video.

I have to say that...

I just don't have enough data to go over here

and to be able to fully give up a proper analysis.

Right.

When I first walked in here, to be 100 percent frank with you,

I thought this is going to be a no for me.

But I think your credibility as a witness ranks very, very high.

Um, Chrissy's analysis

found no other objects at that time.

There was no identifiable air traffic.

We have the space debris thesis,

but that's very general and it doesn't really apply

because the object didn't blink over and over again,

as one might expect from space debris.

I believe...

[suspenseful music playing]

You witnessed the UFO.

I believe your account

I definitely appreciate that. Thanks.

It's really nice to...

have somebody else be able to take a look

at what I've been saying and doing

and actually say he's not lying

because I'm not trying to trick anyone.

It's-- There's so many people interested in this subject,

and so confused about it.

And I feel like if the phenomena is that regular here,

and I'm able to capture it,

I would like to be able to share it

so people don't get so afraid of it,

and can realize it's there and probably been there

a long, long time, you know?

-Thank you so much. -Pleasure.

Before going full on into this investigation,

I had a great job I loved,

but I had to sacrifice everything I knew,

everything I was familiar with and be alone.

I am finally on the right path and doing what I should be doing.

I did see a UFO,

and now I'm going to go out and see some more.

[suspenseful music playing]

[people speaking]

I could see, like, the shape of it.

It was your classic saucer.

The car's surrounded by this white, blue light.

It felt like it was moving through me.

[woman] I was on the train.

Took out my iPhone and I take a shot.

I look at the picture and I realize

that I have that amazing photo.

I've never shown it to anyone before.

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