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Well, I tend to go for a seven
for double knitting
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cos my tension's too tight.
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- But seven-and-a-half, I think, yeah.
- Ta, love.
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One first-class stamp there, Megan.
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- 28p, please, love.
- How much?
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I know, daylight robbery.
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That's the Post Office for you.
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Oh, Alan? Alan.
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- Alan Bates?
- Management.
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Oh, thugs in suits.
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You know why we're here, Alan.
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And you know you're a day early.
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Oi! There's a queue here.
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I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen,
but this post office is now closed.
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Er, not yet, it isn't.
That's 2.39, Tom, please.
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Alan, come on.
Let us in, please. Yeah?
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If you'd like to make an appointment
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for after
my so-called contract ends,
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I shall inspect my diary
for a window.
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We have a right of entry.
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I'm the sub-postmaster,
so I am locked in,
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and everyone else is locked out.
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So if you want to see my accounts...
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..you'll have to come back tomorrow.
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Right.
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Come on. We're gonna need some help.
I'm calling the police.
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- Sorry about that, Tom.
- Hello. Police, please?
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I'm calling
from Craig-y-Don Post Office.
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They're not calling me a thief.
They wouldn't dare.
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They say money's somehow
gone missing from this branch,
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which it hasn't,
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and I have to pay it back,
which I won't.
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So I say prove it.
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Prove that I'm wrong
and you're right.
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Show me the figures, but
they can't or won't do that.
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Alan...
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So now they want to close me down
to shut me up...
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That's ridiculous!
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..because they don't want everyone
knowing what I know.
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Which is?
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That the fancy new computer system
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that they've spent
an arm and a leg on is faulty.
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No-one else has ever reported
any problems with Horizon. No-one.
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I don't believe you.
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So no actual crime
has been committed here today?
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Well, Post Office Limited
is stealing, er, my livelihood,
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my shop, my... my job, my home,
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my life savings, my good name.
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Civil matter.
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Righto.
Be getting back to the day job.
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Might wanna come back tomorrow, sir.
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How exactly do you sleep at night?
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Same time tomorrow?
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It can't be just us, can it?
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- Morning, Marion!
- Morning, Jo.
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All right?
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- Hello, Jo. You all right?
- All right?
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- Morning, Jo.
- Hello, Jo.
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- Morning, Jo.
- Morning, Jo.
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All right, Trevor, Nadia?
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- Hi, Elaine!
- You look nice, Jo.
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- Morning.
- With you in a minute.
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- No rush.
- Morning, Jo.
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Ooh!
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Ooh, you smell good.
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Don't turn your back!
They'll all be gone.
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What's the matter, Diane?
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I can't find it anywhere.
It's my pension book.
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- I can't... can't find it anywhere.
- You haven't lost your pension book.
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- I keep it in my drawer, remember?
- Oh...
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Sorry! Spinning plates.
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Well, it's as much as I can do
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to get myself into court
every morning with my hair brushed.
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Er, a dozen first-class, please.
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Whisper it, legal eagle,
but I'm happier baking.
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Book-keeping,
accounts and computers...
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- not so much.
- Mm.
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There you go.
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- Thanks, Jo.
- Have a good day.
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No, job, no income,
nowhere to live.
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All our hopes, dreams.
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All our savings down the pan.
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It's killing us, Alan.
My hair's actually falling out.
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I'm not letting
the Post Office get away with it.
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They already did.
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Come on. Concentrate.
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Well, I...
I'm thinking somewhere quiet.
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Up in the hills.
I can walk, you can paint.
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Am I not allowed to walk?
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Just tell me how we're going
to afford any of these places.
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We'll work. It's what people do.
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Now, come on, Suzanne.
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If we're going to walk away, let's
do it with our heads held high.
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OK.
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And so they head off
into an uncertain future.
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On the plus side...
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it won't be us hanging around
on the phone any more.
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"Horizon helpline,
thank you for waiting."
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Oh, no!
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'Horizon helpline,
thank you for waiting.'
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- 'Hello, how can I help?'
- Oh, hi.
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Er, it's Jo Hamilton here
from South Warnborough.
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I'm trying to produce
this week's cash account.
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'And what's the problem?'
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I know it's probably me because
I'm really rubbish with technology,
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but... I've declared my cash,
I've declared my stock,
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I've done it all three times,
and I still can't get it to balance.
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I hate Wednesdays.
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'Hm. And what does Horizon say?'
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It says I've taken £2,032.67 more
than I think I have.
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'OK, redeclare your stock holding.
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'So, that'll automatically create
a discrepancy, OK?
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'It'll have inflated
your cash holding.
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'So now... I want you to reverse
that difference.'
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Righto.
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'So now, if you redeclare
everything, it'll balance, OK?'
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This is so helpful, thank you.
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Don't go away,
stay with me till I've done it.
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Oh, my God!
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It... I-It's just doubled
right in front of my eyes.
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Now... Now it says I'm £4,000 down.
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'It'll sort itself out,
these things do.
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'In the meantime...'
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But I was only doing
what you told me!
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'In the meantime,
you'll need to make good the loss.'
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I haven't got that money!
And I don't know where it's gone!
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'I'm sorry, you are responsible
for balancing your account
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'and making good any shortfalls.'
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You did your best, love.
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Well, I wrote a lot of letters.
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MPs, ministers,
Post Office chairman,
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Daily Telegraph, Computer Weekly.
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I'd have thought they'd have shown
an interest, at least.
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We're putting it behind us now.
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- Er, I thought we were walking away?
- Back burner.
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We did say I could have
that spare room for my sewing room.
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No problem!
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- Alan?
- Up here!
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- Careful!
- Give us a hand.
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Do we really need to be keeping
all of these?
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Just in case. I'll, er...
I'll go through them all later.
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Mind your back.
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- There's nothing wrong with my back.
- Yeah, not yet.
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All put away, sorted.
Almost forgotten.
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Hm, maybe things
are starting to look up.
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Shall we investigate the local pub?
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Things are definitely
starting to look up.
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No.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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'I'm sorry, Mum.
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'There's nothing left
to take out of my wages.'
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My savings are already gone.
My credit cards are maxed out.
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I know I should have told you
before,
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but I didn't wanna scare you.
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It's all right, love.
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You're her husband.
Tell her it's all right.
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I don't know.
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Jo... how did the post office money
get lost?
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What is it you've been doing wrong?
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I don't know either. I have no idea.
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Oh, I don't wanna cry.
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I kept thinking, one day,
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some kind of electronic wizardry
would kick in
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and it would just sort itself out,
but it never has.
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And now the computer says my
shortfall's gone up to £9,000, so...
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Remortgaging the house, though?
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I know what I'm suggesting
is really awful.
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But, David, there's
the 40-year lease on the shop,
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and if they sack me,
we'll lose everything.
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This house. Our home.
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I have to make good my shortfalls.
It says so in my contract.
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I have to find the money
to pay them back.
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If it draws a line under it.
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'Horizon helpline,
thank you for waiting.
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'All our agents are busy right now,
but please continue to hold.'
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- Dad? I can't find my trainers.
- Have you looked under your bed?
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Have a look.
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'Horizon helpline,
thank you for waiting.'
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Hi, yeah. It's, er...
It's Lee Castleton here again,
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er, from Bridlington.
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- Yeah, look me up, it's all there.
- 'OK, hold on.'
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Thank you.
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- Daddy!
- Yeah, just go and ask your mum, love.
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'OK, yeah. I've got your file here.'
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Yeah, right.
Now, you'll see from my records,
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this is the 91st time I've called
you about these shortfalls.
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'Yeah, it's odd. No-one else
is having these problems.'
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I-I still can't make any sense
of these figures.
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You know, I still wonder, someone
might have hacked into my account.
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'No, no, no, that's impossible.
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'Branch accounts
are totally secure.'
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OK, right. So, if it's definitely
something that I'm doing wrong,
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please can you just tell me what?
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'So you wanna request a visit
from the auditors?'
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Yes, yes! Finally, thank you.
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- They'll get to the bottom of it.
- Off to school.
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All right. Have a good day, kids.
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Right, I'm, erm...
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Listen, I'm gonna...
I'm gonna to write it down now,
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so, yeah, they'll definitely
be calling me, right?
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'What you need to do
is isolate your transaction.
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'You need to put in a number
that is one digit higher or lower,
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'or the computer won't find it.'
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How's that supposed to work?
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'I don't know, it just works.
Do it.'
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Last time it showed a loss,
I had to remortgage my house.
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I can't understand
why it's happened again.
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'Me neither.
Nobody else has these problems.
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'You know, you must balance tonight,
or you can't open in the morning.'
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I have to open in the morning,
my old ladies rely on me.
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'So, one digit higher or lower.
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'Your takings must match
your balance on your Horizon...'
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God forgive me.
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'I'll be fine, Mrs Goggins.
The post always gets through.'
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Mummy? Mummy?
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Mummy, they're leaving.
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Mummy's just nipping down to see
Daddy. I'll be back in a minute.
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Thanks for all your help, yeah?
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Did they find the problem?
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£26,000 has gone missing.
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- You what?
- Twenty-six grand.
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Let's go through those figures again,
right now. - I'm not allowed.
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- Hey?
- Suspended.
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Locked out my own post office
till I pay it all back.
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26,000?
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What are we gonna do?
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Fight.
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Whatever it is you're reading,
Alan,
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you're doing it
in an annoyingly significant manner.
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Year one of the degree,
there's a core foundation course
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including programming
and problem solving.
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Let's see?
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Oh, God! Computer science?
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Why don't you do English
or philosophy?
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Computer science is good.
It's career planning.
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In which case,
why not aromatherapy
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or golf club management?
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And my student grant will help
keep this roof over our heads.
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Also, we'll be able
to set up a website...
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00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,760
..so people will be able to find us.
247
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,760
People?
248
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,040
Meaning sub-postmasters?
249
00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,999
Three years
since we lost the Post Office
250
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,639
and, "Come on, Suzanne,
we're walking away."
251
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,080
Has a single day gone by when
you've thought about anything else?
252
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,880
I got a job.
253
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,800
Teaching?
254
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,480
Cleaning. Offices.
255
00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,520
I start next week.
256
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,320
No shame in it, is there?
257
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,120
One day...
258
00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,720
One day, what?
259
00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,840
..we'll get the bastards.
260
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,759
Right, Millie, you've been quiet all
the way home.
261
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,959
- What's bothering you?
- Don't tell her.
262
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,519
Er, don't tell me what?
263
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,159
That boy made a big spit
in Millie's hair.
264
00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,399
He did what?
265
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,760
The same one who said Dad stole lots
of money off old people.
266
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,480
Millie?
267
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,959
You know that's not true, OK?
268
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,440
Your dad is not a thief.
269
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,480
He's not.
270
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,320
Go on, go upstairs. Go and play.
I'll be up in a minute, OK?
271
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,719
Now, look at this! Look, look!
272
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,999
I've been through these 100 times.
I haven't seen it before. Look.
273
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,679
I'm gonna have to talk
to the school.
274
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,679
23rd of March, right?
I'm logged in on terminal one.
275
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,800
I put in the transaction...
and it shows up on terminal two.
276
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,279
That should never happen.
That's proof!
277
00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,399
It's proof there's something wrong
with the system!
278
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,800
Lee. The children.
The bullying is getting worse.
279
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,440
I know.
280
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,599
The only way to stop it
is to prove that I'm not a thief.
281
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,519
Right? It must be a bug.
It must be...
282
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,720
It must be a computer bug or...
or something.
283
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,800
- Right.
- What are you doing?
284
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,399
Lee? Look, there's
15,000 post offices on that list.
285
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,319
Are you just gonna randomly
call them all up
286
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,919
and ask if their computer is broken?
287
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,039
How else am I gonna find someone
with the same problem
288
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,439
before my case goes to court?
289
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,879
I've got to show 'em
it's not just me.
290
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,959
Lisa, the Post Office are suing us
for £26,000 which we didn't steal
291
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,520
and we haven't got hanging around
in piggy banks.
292
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,759
OK.
293
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,359
'Hello, Oxford Road Post Office.'
294
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,039
Hello, yeah.
I'm really sorry to bother you.
295
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,199
My name's Lee Castleton, and I...
296
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,800
'Sorry, mate,
I don't take cold calls.'
297
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,160
It's all right,
I'll just call the next one.
298
00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:57,760
Please.
299
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,880
Jo?
300
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,519
- Jo!
- Don't come in here, Mum.
301
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,199
Well, you can't keep working
these hours.
302
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840
You'll kill yourself.
303
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,560
Oh, Jo. Love...
304
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,439
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
305
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,519
I keep trying over and over,
and I can't make it work.
306
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,079
The numbers,
they just slide away from me,
307
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,799
and I don't know where the money is.
308
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,119
I don't know where it's gone.
309
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:36,039
They need to send someone down here
to sort this out.
310
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,239
No, no, they'll sack me!
311
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,320
Oh, Jo... You need help.
312
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,679
Mrs Hamilton?
313
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,439
I'm Ryan Fleming,
from the investigations team?
314
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,159
- Thank you.
- I'll need those keys.
315
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,000
Oh, of course, yes.
316
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,800
Morning, Jo!
317
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,640
- What's going on?
- Nothing!
318
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,639
Mrs Hamilton,
are you surprised to learn
319
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,279
that the audit you requested
found a shortfall
320
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,000
of £36,644.89?
321
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,199
I've never been able
to get to grips with the system,
322
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,079
and when I tried to get help...
323
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,439
As you must know,
your contract with us
324
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,319
makes clear
losses are your responsibility.
325
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,919
Like, once, I was on the phone
to the helpline,
326
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,759
and it doubled, it just doubled,
the shortfall, before my very eyes.
327
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,839
Mrs Hamilton, this is public money.
328
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,119
We need to talk about
how you are gonna pay it back.
329
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,239
Sizing this place up
for the bailiffs?
330
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,839
Let me tell you,
this house is my house, too,
331
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,119
so you can keep
your thieving hands off it.
332
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,239
And tell your evil bosses I said so.
333
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,119
The shortfalls we uncovered today
334
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,759
do not appear in any of the weekly
accounts you've been submitting.
335
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,119
My daughter is not a thief.
336
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:27,560
- A formal investigation will follow.
- No, can I just say something?
337
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,199
Why would I do this?
I love my post office.
338
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,920
Until then, I'm suspending you,
Mrs Hamilton, with immediate effect.
339
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,559
Jo! Hello.
340
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,359
I think I might need a solicitor.
341
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,639
Oh, erm, but I do...
I-I mainly just do criminal work?
342
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,960
That's good. That's great.
343
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,239
You do not have to say anything,
344
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,799
but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention
345
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,719
when questioned something
which you later rely on in court.
346
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160
Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
347
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,599
This is your cash account final
for Week 24.
348
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,840
Is that your signature?
349
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,800
No comment.
350
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,079
This is your branch trading
statement for period ten.
351
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:46,120
It states that the cash-in-hand
figure is £35,515.83.
352
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,999
Is that a true amount
of the cash on hand
353
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,799
for that transaction statement?
354
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,440
No comment.
355
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Have you deliberately inflated
that cash figure...
356
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,839
No comment.
357
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,839
..to cover the fact that you've
been stealing Post Office money?
358
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,240
No comment.
359
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,120
Where's the money, Jo?
360
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,519
What have you spent it on?
361
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,680
No comment.
362
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,279
It was good to have a rehearsal,
I suppose...
363
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,359
Mm-hm.
364
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,719
..before I have to do it properly
with the police.
365
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,799
With the police?
366
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Well, they'll arrest me now,
for sure.
367
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,360
Jo, the Post Office
don't need the police.
368
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,199
The Post Office has the right to run
its own criminal investigations,
369
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,719
all the way to the Crown Court.
370
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520
It's been that way for 300 years.
371
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,079
'Disgraced
sub-postmaster Noel Thomas
372
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,719
'is tonight behind bars,
373
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,919
'starting a nine-month
prison sentence.'
374
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,280
He used to be a Federation man.
375
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,399
'Caernarfon Crown Court heard today
376
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,799
'that County Councillor Thomas
was previously regarded
377
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,599
'as honest, respectable, a pillar
of his community in Anglesey.'
378
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,399
'What did you do
with the money?'
379
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,559
'The 59-year-old
had earlier pleaded guilty
380
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,240
'to false accounting
involving sums up to £48,000.'
381
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,280
Did she just say £48,000?
382
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,719
Well, that's not the odd bit
of shortfall.
383
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840
It's a hell of a lot of money,
Suzanne.
384
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,040
And he's pleaded guilty, so...
385
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,519
He didn't look guilty,
though, did he?
386
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,920
Looked bloody terrified.
387
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,800
How do we know what pressure
they're putting people under?
388
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Everything all right?
389
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,680
What is it?
390
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,559
Royal Courts of Justice? In London?
391
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,920
I'll be the only one there
not wearing a wig.
392
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,919
- Oh, God, Lee...
- It'll be fine, it'll be fine.
393
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,439
I'll just show the judge my logs,
and I'll explain about Horizon.
394
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,719
And I'll just tell the truth.
It'll be fine.
395
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,159
It's not a criminal court, is it?
They're just suing us for the money.
396
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,519
But, Lee, they'll have
so many big lawyers, and you...
397
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,799
Yeah, I know, and I'll be
representing myself, yeah,
398
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,280
due to the fact I haven't got
a spare million quid to spend.
399
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,399
Look, Lisa, we've just got to trust
in the British justice system
400
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,879
and everything'll be all right.
401
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,640
I've just gotta tell the truth.
402
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,240
It's fine. Don't worry.
403
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,920
Right, erm...
404
00:27:01,459 --> 00:27:06,326
_
405
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,399
It's called a plea bargain.
406
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,719
The deal is the Post Office
will drop the theft charge
407
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,439
if you agree to plead guilty
to false accounting instead.
408
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800
And the plea bargain
keeps me out of prison?
409
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,200
Well...
410
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Sorry.
411
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,039
How is 14 charges
of false accounting
412
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,039
better than one charge of theft?
413
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Theft is much bigger.
414
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,679
And if you fight it
and the jury is not on your side,
415
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,160
then you will go to prison.
416
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,399
Also, there are two conditions
to the plea bargain.
417
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,439
The Post Office say you have
to pay back all the money.
418
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,559
£36,000? How am I gonna to do that?
419
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,880
And you must undertake
not to blame the Horizon system.
420
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,799
Well, I am guilty, I am,
because I did sign
421
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,759
all those accounts
when I knew they were wrong.
422
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600
But I never stole that money.
I never saw a penny of it.
423
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200
Issy, I still don't know
where it went.
424
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,279
'Computers drive me mad.
425
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,319
'I never got used to Horizon,
and I won't say I love it now,
426
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,119
'but I can't claim
we've had any real problems, so...'
427
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,519
No, no, I appreciate
you talking to me. Thank you.
428
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,840
- 'I've gotta go. Bye-bye.'
- All right. Bye-bye.
429
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,039
Hello?
430
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,959
'Sorry about that,
I had to nip out the back.
431
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,199
'Everyone's scared to talk.
432
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,119
'There's just one guy
that can help.'
433
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,439
Hello, yeah. I... I was hoping
to speak to, er, Alan Brown?
434
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,239
- 'You're Lee, right?
- I've been expecting your call.'
435
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,959
- Yeah.
- 'What happened here in Falkirk
436
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,319
'is that one of our terminals
437
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,519
'just stopped communicating
with the network.
438
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,999
'Horizon didn't pick it up,
no alarms were ringing.
439
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,639
'Some kind of bug.
440
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,399
'And that bug could be affecting
every office in the country
441
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,599
- 'with more than one terminal.'
- That's the same thing!
442
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,919
Exactly the same thing
that happened here.
443
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,999
You see, and they always tell you
you're on your own.
444
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,559
'Don't get too excited, laddie,
445
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
'cos I'm not going on record
wi' any of this.'
446
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,079
Well, no, I just thought
that's what you...
447
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,199
'I've got thousands invested
in this business,
448
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,959
'and I can't afford to make
an enemy of Post Office Limited.'
449
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,719
Well, yeah, but what's the point...?
450
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,519
'Look, I'll forward you
a group email I sent some friends.
451
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,119
'You can use that, if it helps.'
452
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,999
- Are you gonna send it now?
- 'Yes.'
453
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,680
All right. All right, thank you.
454
00:29:42,742 --> 00:29:45,546
_
455
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,719
These so-called shortfalls,
they're not real.
456
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,399
Your system,
it produces them out of nowhere.
457
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,319
I'm a systems specialist employed
by Fujitsu, the manufacturer.
458
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,959
I was unable to identify any basis
459
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,319
on which Horizon
could have caused the losses.
460
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,479
Ah, no, no, you see, no,
I happen to know of another branch
461
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,479
where the same thing has happened.
462
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,119
You must ask Mrs Chambers
a question, Mr Castleton.
463
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,719
Oh, OK. Sorry.
Erm, just give me a...
464
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,959
You mean the branch
at Callendar Square in Falkirk?
465
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,439
Yes, that's it, yeah.
466
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,439
The exact... The exact same thing,
it's happening there.
467
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,479
I-I think... we both have
the same computer bug.
468
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,479
Yes, but the problem
at Callendar Square arose
469
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,319
from an error in the Horizon system.
470
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,959
My Lord, there is no evidence
of any such thing
471
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,199
at Mr Castleton's branch.
472
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,039
No, no, no, it's the same thing.
It's a computer bug.
473
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800
It's... It's...
474
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,519
I-It's...
475
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,279
The conclusion is inescapable
that the Horizon system
476
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,719
was working properly
in all material respects
477
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,439
and that the shortfall is real...
478
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,599
That the losses must have been
caused by Mr Castleton's own error.
479
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,959
There will thus be a judgment
on the claim against the defendant
480
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,359
for £25,858.95.
481
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,519
The claimant is entitled
to their costs in the case,
482
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,319
and accordingly,
Mr Castleton is ordered to pay
483
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:56,920
all Post Office Limited's costs
in the total sum of £321,000.
484
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,599
All empty.
485
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,400
Come on, you two. Let's get inside.
486
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,079
'And that was me,
thinking I could fight 'em.
487
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,159
'And now the shop's gone
and we're stuck living above it
488
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,679
'because we can't sell it.'
489
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,559
Our proceeds will go
to the Post Office cos I'm bankrupt.
490
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,639
But, you know, I was an electrician
when I was in the RAF,
491
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,199
so at least I've still got a trade,
492
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,439
but it just means
I'm living out of me car a bit.
493
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,679
And people think
me wife's kicked me out,
494
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,039
but it's not that.
495
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,359
'It's not that, just, you know,
496
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,319
'gotta go where the work is,
don't you?'
497
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,439
Mr Castleton, I'm calling
about the computer logs you sent us,
498
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,959
- but...
- Yeah, I'm sorry.
499
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,959
It's me going on at myself.
Yeah, I-I saw, erm... an advert.
500
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,719
Er, "Free expert help
with any computer problems"?
501
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,759
Yeah, I'm still looking for answers,
you see.
502
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,559
I'm not an expert, I'm afraid,
I'm just a reporter.
503
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,599
- Mr Castleton...
- 'Er, it's Lee.'
504
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,239
Lee, Lee, yeah.
505
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,199
Apart from the chap you spoke to
in Scotland,
506
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,279
do you know if this has happened
to anybody else?
507
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Well, it must have done.
You know, it can't just be me.
508
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,679
Morning, Jo.
509
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,679
I've never even had
a parking ticket.
510
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Shall we?
511
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,559
There we are.
Ten o'clock, Court One.
512
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,599
"For sentence, R v Hamilton."
513
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,199
Queen versus me.
514
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,600
I wonder if she knows?
515
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,119
The Post Office, the shop,
516
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,839
is at the heart of any community
like ours.
517
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,919
And Jo... well, we all love her.
518
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,679
In some ways,
she's more of the priest than I am.
519
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,199
People confide in her,
520
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,999
and she can always tell
when someone's upset.
521
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,639
You see, we trust her,
522
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,639
and we just can't believe that any
of this was on purpose in any way.
523
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Thank you, Mrs Leese.
524
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Please stand up.
525
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Mrs Hamilton, what exactly
are you doing in my court?
526
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,839
I don't know, sir.
527
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,679
I have a large number
of testimonials before me
528
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,039
from your community,
529
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,439
all of whom seem to be here today
as to your trustworthiness.
530
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,519
- I still have no idea.
- This wasn't just a muddle.
531
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,759
It turned into fraud.
532
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
It's a very serious state of affairs
for someone
533
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400
in whom the public is entitled
to trust.
534
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,440
However, in light
of your previous good character...
535
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,359
..I do not intend
to impose a custodial sentence.
536
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,519
You will be sentenced
to a Community Order for 12 months
537
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,879
and weekly meetings
with a probation officer.
538
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,080
- You're free to leave.
- Court, rise.
539
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,559
I can't believe
I'm not going to prison!
540
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,520
You're all right, you're all right.
541
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,159
Maybe she was scared, Alan.
542
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,039
Maybe she thought, "Put your hands
up, get a lesser sentence."
543
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,159
Yeah, and now
she's pleaded guilty in court.
544
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,519
Not everyone is as stubborn as you.
God!
545
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Stubborn!
546
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,560
I'll get it.
547
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,279
Hello?
548
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,760
Yeah, who's calling, please?
549
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,359
Oh, OK. Yeah. OK. Alan?
550
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,319
It's a reporter from Computer Weekly
551
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,039
who's read about that woman
in the paper,
552
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,840
and they want to talk to you
about Horizon.
553
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,159
Alan Bates.
554
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,079
I can see you contacted us
five years ago.
555
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,000
- Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
- Never mind. You're here now.
556
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
It's odd, because everyone thinks
of the Post Office
557
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520
as sort of warm and cuddly.
558
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,559
You know, when I first got legal
advice, right at the very beginning,
559
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,959
I was warned that if I tried to take
them to court, even if I won,
560
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,399
the Post Office would just keep
appealing until I ran out of money.
561
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,119
Thank you.
562
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,079
But they never accused you
of any wrongdoing?
563
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,239
No, no, no.
They never tried to prosecute me.
564
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,039
You know what I think?
565
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,000
I think they knew that there was
something wrong with my system.
566
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,319
But, Rebecca...
567
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,039
how many other sub-postmasters
have you found?
568
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Six who will go on the record.
569
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,079
Plus you, if you're willing.
570
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,400
What do you think?
571
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,760
Course I will.
572
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,439
"problem seems to be affecting
a number of people.
573
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,479
"A seventh postmaster, Alan Bates,
refused to sign his weekly accounts,
574
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,759
"saying it would have made him
liable for any losses.
575
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,999
"He has called
for a public inquiry."
576
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,800
Oh, good luck with that.
577
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,359
Oh, you'll like this bit.
578
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,279
"A Post Office spokesman
said Horizon
579
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,119
- "is an extremely robust system..."
- Ha!
580
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,799
"which operates over
our entire Post Office network..."
581
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,639
"and successfully records
millions of transactions each day.
582
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799
"There is no evidence that points
to any faults with the technology."
583
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,279
We had the evidence.
They wouldn't listen!
584
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,359
"We would always look into
and investigate
585
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,319
"any issues raised
by sub-postmasters."
586
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,239
- Turds.
- Josephine!
587
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,239
Well, honestly!
588
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,199
"We do accept
that individual branches
589
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,039
"may experience
very occasional failures."
590
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,399
Oh, yeah, right! I don't think so.
591
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,519
What else have they put?
592
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,679
This poor chap got sent to prison.
593
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Hello?
594
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Noel?
595
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,040
- Jo?
- Yeah!
596
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Do you want a... tea?
597
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Yes, please.
598
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,519
'I couldn't believe it
when I first read about you.'
599
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,159
- Fallen postmistress.
- What a claim to fame!
600
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,839
Just...
601
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,399
Just the idea
that there was anyone else
602
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,080
caught up in the same trap.
603
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,279
I don't miss the Post Office.
604
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,279
Well, I miss the wages, but...
605
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,839
17 years old
when I started as a postman,
606
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,760
delivering letters on my bike.
607
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,399
42 years, I worked for them.
608
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,479
Think of it. Man and boy.
609
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,079
Lord, Noel.
And they still sent you to prison.
610
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,560
All I heard the judge say was...
"Nine months."
611
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't.
612
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,400
And then... "Take him down."
613
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,320
Had my 60th birthday
behind bars, Jo.
614
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,880
It was hell on Earth.
615
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,600
I'm really glad you came.
616
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,439
Can you believe this chap?
617
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,839
Just kept refusing
to sign his accounts.
618
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Kept refusing to pay.
619
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Bloody hero.
620
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,519
'Oh, my God,
never in a million years
621
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,759
'would it have occurred to me
I could do that.'
622
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,039
They wrote off
my first so-called shortfall
623
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,839
when I jumped up and down
and complained about it.
624
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,919
- You never thought it was your fault?
- 'Never.'
625
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,079
Well, why am I such a fool?
626
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,239
I mean, I never even thought
about the computer,
627
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,559
except that it was weird
628
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,999
when they said I wasn't allowed
to blame it.
629
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,359
'I hope you don't mind me
getting in touch.'
630
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,000
I don't mind at all.
631
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,959
But, Jo... can I ask you one thing?
632
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,079
Yeah, anything.
633
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,559
Why did you plead guilty?
634
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,359
'Oh, I didn't want to.'
635
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,679
Oh, my God, no, but...
I really didn't wanna go to prison.
636
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,399
And I didn't know
how to prove I was innocent.
637
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,399
You shouldn't have to.
638
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,199
It's supposed to be
"innocent until proven guilty".
639
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,720
Yeah, right.
640
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120
So, what do we do now?
641
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,640
'Alan? Any ideas?'
642
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,560
Thank you for waiting.
643
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,039
I guess I'll have my sewing room
in the next life, then.
644
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,880
- It won't be for long.
- Hm!
645
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,399
Bridlington, Hampshire,
Chelmsford, Somerset, Falkirk,
646
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,199
and two in North Wales.
647
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,039
That's the seven
from Computer Weekly.
648
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Then there's, er...
the two that came via our website.
649
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,720
But where are all the others?
650
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,839
I'm thinking, test the water.
651
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,559
Set up a meeting,
send out invitations,
652
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,120
- see if anyone turns up?
- Hm.
653
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Somewhere central.
654
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Birmingham? That's pretty central.
655
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,039
Fenny Compton.
656
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400
- Fenny...
- Compton.
657
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,800
- OK.
- Has a lovely ring to it.
658
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,039
Just the place to start
really annoying the hell
659
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080
out of the Post Office.
660
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,639
808 inhabitants.
661
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,799
And a church hall.
I still think maybe Birmingham.
662
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Nah. Today, Fenny Compton...
tomorrow, the world.
663
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,720
You know...
664
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,919
..this could be huge.
665
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,040
Or nobody might turn up.
666
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,160
But it's got to be worth a try.
667
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,920
Jo?
668
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,439
Alan!
669
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,119
Guessed on account of the cakes.
670
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,799
I wasn't sure how many to bring.
671
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,599
- Hi. Suzanne.
- Oh! Oh, hello!
672
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,720
- Hello.
- Oh, thank you.
673
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:57,800
We can always take them home
if nobody comes.
674
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,440
We'll give it 20 minutes.
675
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Oh, wow.
676
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Oh...
677
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,159
Oh, wow. Alan, you did it!
678
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,040
Look at everyone!
679
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,720
Look at them all.
680
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,879
Hi.
681
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,639
Are you all here for the meeting?
682
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,519
Yes, we are.
We're here for the meeting.
683
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,880
Well, you... better come in, then.
684
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,640
- We all look knackered.
- That's cos we are.
685
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,240
Right. Er... Well...
686
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Welcome, everyone.
687
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,560
We're all here
to share our experiences and...
688
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,839
..put our heads together.
689
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,480
We're here because...
690
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:40,960
..the Post Office...
691
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,320
..told every single one of us
sat here today...
692
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240
..told us over and over...
693
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,800
"You're the only one."
694
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,920
And that was wrong.
That was a lie, actually.
695
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,560
Because... Well, look at us.
696
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,800
Here we all are.
697
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,200
And from this moment forwards...
698
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,840
..none of us will be
the only one ever again.
699
00:46:25,598 --> 00:46:28,628
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