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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,771 --> 00:00:06,716 Not only have we captured Saddam Hussein, 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:08,873 we have also captured or killed 3 00:00:08,909 --> 00:00:11,843 almost all of his most trusted lieutenants. 4 00:00:11,878 --> 00:00:14,045 And I want to introduce two men 5 00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:16,448 who have been key to this success... 6 00:00:16,483 --> 00:00:20,219 Major General Earl Watson of the United States Marines 7 00:00:20,254 --> 00:00:23,822 and General Mohammed Jabra of the Iraqi Army. 8 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:27,309 As of today, these two outstanding generals 9 00:00:27,344 --> 00:00:30,345 are assigned to lead the joint task force 10 00:00:30,380 --> 00:00:34,566 charged with capturing all remaining high-value targets. 11 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:36,568 Ladies and gentlemen, 12 00:00:36,603 --> 00:00:38,498 General Watson and General Jabra. 13 00:00:39,690 --> 00:00:41,322 General Jabra? General Jabra? 14 00:00:41,358 --> 00:00:43,459 Could you give us the Iraqi point of view 15 00:00:43,494 --> 00:00:45,305 on relations with the U.S. military? 16 00:00:45,329 --> 00:00:47,763 I speak for all Iraqi people when I say 17 00:00:47,798 --> 00:00:50,432 that our trust in your military has grown, 18 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:52,468 as our nation grows more secure. 19 00:00:52,503 --> 00:00:54,314 On a personal level, I've had 20 00:00:54,338 --> 00:00:57,539 many late-night cups of coffee with General Watson 21 00:00:57,575 --> 00:01:00,225 and have found him to be quite agreeable. 22 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:03,479 Though perhaps a little obsessed with American football. 23 00:01:04,565 --> 00:01:06,293 Excuse me, General? 24 00:01:06,317 --> 00:01:08,583 General Watson? 25 00:01:08,619 --> 00:01:10,780 General, are you confident you're the right man 26 00:01:10,804 --> 00:01:12,070 to be working so closely 27 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:14,239 with General Jabra and the other Iraqis, 28 00:01:14,275 --> 00:01:16,874 given your hostile attitude toward their religion? 29 00:01:18,695 --> 00:01:21,229 I don't know what you're talking about. 30 00:01:21,265 --> 00:01:22,392 General, I was 31 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:24,060 at the Alexandria Baptist Church yesterday 32 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,712 when you gave your guest sermon. 33 00:01:25,736 --> 00:01:28,570 You described Islam as a second-rate religion 34 00:01:28,605 --> 00:01:31,306 and said we're doing battle with the Devil. 35 00:01:33,110 --> 00:01:35,544 What I said in church... 36 00:01:35,579 --> 00:01:38,430 And what I believe... 37 00:01:38,465 --> 00:01:40,665 Is simply that the United States 38 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:43,385 is engaged in a global war against evil. 39 00:01:43,420 --> 00:01:45,500 General Watson, are you admitting to this accusation? 40 00:01:47,341 --> 00:01:48,485 General Watson? General Watson! 41 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:50,575 Mr. Secretary? 42 00:02:44,765 --> 00:02:46,614 This media frenzy 43 00:02:46,650 --> 00:02:47,682 over General Watson 44 00:02:47,717 --> 00:02:50,518 has reached from Norway to Zanzibar. 45 00:02:50,571 --> 00:02:53,104 Zanzibar, folks. 46 00:02:53,139 --> 00:02:56,074 Believe me, it doesn't do us any good anywhere. 47 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:58,643 The international community is already suspicious 48 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,011 of our motives. 49 00:03:00,047 --> 00:03:03,414 I agree the general may have chosen his words poorly. 50 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:06,217 However, what he said is not entirely false. 51 00:03:06,252 --> 00:03:08,987 We are at war with a decidedly evil people. 52 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:12,068 General Watson sounded like he was equating evil with Islam. 53 00:03:12,092 --> 00:03:13,603 Well, that's not what he said. 54 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:15,293 But that's how some of our allies 55 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:17,261 and enemies are going to interpret it. 56 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:19,197 Well, if we're going to reassure them 57 00:03:19,232 --> 00:03:20,882 that the general is not a fanatic, 58 00:03:20,935 --> 00:03:23,568 we need to know what else he said. 59 00:03:23,603 --> 00:03:27,572 Did he really call Islam a "second-rate religion"? 60 00:03:27,608 --> 00:03:29,140 Well, the last I checked, 61 00:03:29,175 --> 00:03:31,743 church sermons were protected by the Constitutional provisions 62 00:03:31,778 --> 00:03:33,723 for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. 63 00:03:33,747 --> 00:03:36,080 Military personnel are not as free 64 00:03:36,116 --> 00:03:38,216 as other Americans, Commander. 65 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:40,818 The DOD, IG, and the Marine Corps 66 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:42,983 have requested JAG investigate 67 00:03:43,007 --> 00:03:44,439 the general's remarks. 68 00:03:44,475 --> 00:03:46,274 We'll get right on it, sir. 69 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:47,642 I'm not eager to see 70 00:03:47,678 --> 00:03:49,077 General Watson get burned. 71 00:03:49,112 --> 00:03:51,412 He's a courageous officer, and he's proved vital 72 00:03:51,447 --> 00:03:53,109 in our counterinsurgency efforts. 73 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:56,501 Mr. Secretary, um... 74 00:03:56,536 --> 00:04:00,839 in order for us to reassure our allies... 75 00:04:00,874 --> 00:04:02,685 Or anyone else, for that matter... 76 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:05,644 Our investigation needs to be independent of any... 77 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:06,778 undue pressure. 78 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:07,929 Of course, A.J. 79 00:04:07,982 --> 00:04:10,582 And I'd like to say that I'm glad 80 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:15,737 the general will be investigated by someone of Muslim heritage. 81 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:17,922 I think that'll enhance our credibility. 82 00:04:17,957 --> 00:04:19,524 Sir, I don't feel comfortable 83 00:04:19,559 --> 00:04:22,210 having my cultural background factor in my assignments. 84 00:04:22,246 --> 00:04:24,963 Well, Colonel, I've come to learn 85 00:04:24,999 --> 00:04:29,767 that religion is a factor in everything. 86 00:04:29,803 --> 00:04:31,253 Good luck. 87 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:34,272 And... do me 88 00:04:34,308 --> 00:04:35,607 one little favor. 89 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:37,659 Don't talk to the press. 90 00:04:40,097 --> 00:04:44,399 When you're on patrol in Baghdad or manning an Iraqi checkpoint, 91 00:04:44,434 --> 00:04:46,167 what do you think would be 92 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:48,470 the most important phrase to know? 93 00:04:48,505 --> 00:04:49,937 Yes, Captain. 94 00:04:49,973 --> 00:04:52,840 "Qif wa-il-la sa-et-leg el-far... 95 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:54,842 Stop or I will shoot." 96 00:04:54,877 --> 00:04:56,010 Uh, yes, Amira. 97 00:04:56,045 --> 00:04:57,545 Actually, that means, 98 00:04:57,581 --> 00:05:00,148 "Stop or I will release the mice." 99 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:03,884 What you want is, 100 00:05:03,921 --> 00:05:06,021 "Qif wa-il-la sa-et-leg qw-naar." 101 00:05:06,056 --> 00:05:09,057 Now, people, let's, uh... try and get that right. 102 00:05:09,093 --> 00:05:11,460 But I think there's another phrase 103 00:05:11,495 --> 00:05:14,979 when in Iraq you would find to be very important. 104 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:19,985 And that is, "Nahnoo hoona limoo-saa-edu-tek... 105 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:22,270 We are here to help you." 106 00:05:22,306 --> 00:05:23,938 Very good, General. 107 00:05:23,973 --> 00:05:25,273 I'll quit while I'm ahead. 108 00:05:25,309 --> 00:05:27,587 Let us thank Amira Sattar 109 00:05:27,611 --> 00:05:29,956 for her expert assistance. 110 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:31,680 Now, Marines, I want you to have 111 00:05:31,715 --> 00:05:33,259 everything in your notebooks 112 00:05:33,283 --> 00:05:35,917 fully digested by 0800 tomorrow. 113 00:05:35,953 --> 00:05:37,452 Dismissed. 114 00:05:37,487 --> 00:05:39,153 Aye, aye, sir. 115 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:40,206 Thank you, Amira. 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,756 You're welcome, General. 117 00:05:41,792 --> 00:05:42,857 General, sir. 118 00:05:42,893 --> 00:05:45,994 This is Lieutenant Colonel MacKenzie. 119 00:05:46,029 --> 00:05:48,329 I'm Commander Rabb. We're with Headquarters JAG. 120 00:05:48,364 --> 00:05:49,330 Colonel. Hello, sir. 121 00:05:49,365 --> 00:05:50,643 Commander. Sir. 122 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:52,934 I was told to expect a visit. Please, have a seat. 123 00:05:52,969 --> 00:05:54,046 Thank you, sir. 124 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:55,369 What would you like to know? 125 00:05:55,405 --> 00:05:56,816 Well, sir, why don't we start 126 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:58,417 with what you said at the church? 127 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:00,741 According to Jill Waddington, the ZNN reporter, 128 00:06:00,777 --> 00:06:02,822 you called Islam a "second-rate religion." 129 00:06:02,846 --> 00:06:04,679 I don't recall my exact words. 130 00:06:04,715 --> 00:06:06,981 I suspect Ms. Waddington exaggerated. 131 00:06:07,017 --> 00:06:11,535 But I probably did say something like that, yes. 132 00:06:11,572 --> 00:06:12,988 You're offended? 133 00:06:13,023 --> 00:06:14,288 We're listening, sir. 134 00:06:14,324 --> 00:06:15,523 Commander, I'm aware 135 00:06:15,576 --> 00:06:17,976 that in this morally relativistic age, 136 00:06:18,011 --> 00:06:20,879 I'm supposed to declare every religion equal, 137 00:06:20,914 --> 00:06:24,115 and Christianity is no better than Zoroastrianism. 138 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,818 But I believe that any religion that doesn't accept 139 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:29,921 Jesus Christ as our Savior is not following the true path. 140 00:06:29,957 --> 00:06:33,058 If that makes me insensitive, then so be it. 141 00:06:33,093 --> 00:06:35,038 Well, sir, you're certainly honest. 142 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:37,428 But you're essentially dividing the world 143 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,108 into Christians and infidels. 144 00:06:39,132 --> 00:06:41,516 That's not a word I would use, Colonel. 145 00:06:41,551 --> 00:06:44,052 Sir, did you... As the reporter claims... 146 00:06:44,087 --> 00:06:46,354 State that this country is presently 147 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:48,190 "doing battle with the Devil"? 148 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:50,492 Commander, whether you believe the Devil is real 149 00:06:50,527 --> 00:06:52,327 or just a metaphor, wouldn't you agree 150 00:06:52,362 --> 00:06:54,329 that an evil force was behind 9/11? 151 00:06:54,364 --> 00:06:56,409 Well, that would be difficult to deny, General. 152 00:06:56,433 --> 00:06:58,327 MacKENZIE: Sir, in your guest sermon, 153 00:06:58,351 --> 00:06:59,879 did you equate Islam with evil? 154 00:06:59,903 --> 00:07:01,469 No. 155 00:07:01,505 --> 00:07:05,039 But there are certain aspects of Islam that trouble me. 156 00:07:05,075 --> 00:07:08,043 The religion has a warrior streak that is too easily 157 00:07:08,078 --> 00:07:11,679 appropriated as a justification for holy war and terrorism. 158 00:07:11,715 --> 00:07:14,749 In all fairness, sir, Islam explicitly condemns terrorism. 159 00:07:14,784 --> 00:07:16,496 And Christianity has been misused 160 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,853 to justify everything from enslaving Africans 161 00:07:18,888 --> 00:07:20,567 to massacring American Indians. 162 00:07:20,591 --> 00:07:23,959 That's true, Colonel, and I condemn that, as well. 163 00:07:23,994 --> 00:07:27,528 But Ms. Waddington only mentioned part of my sermon. 164 00:07:27,564 --> 00:07:28,974 What was the other part, sir? 165 00:07:28,998 --> 00:07:30,482 That all of the world's peoples 166 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:32,083 are our brothers and sisters. 167 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:34,519 And it is our Christian duty to protect them 168 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:35,987 from tyranny and violence. 169 00:07:36,023 --> 00:07:38,418 But don't trust my recollection of the sermon, Commander. 170 00:07:38,442 --> 00:07:40,753 Ask the people who heard me speak. 171 00:07:42,446 --> 00:07:44,189 General Watson was recommended to me 172 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:45,447 by a minister in Norfolk. 173 00:07:45,482 --> 00:07:47,849 The general gave a guest sermon there last year. 174 00:07:47,884 --> 00:07:49,629 Were you happy with the guest sermon 175 00:07:49,653 --> 00:07:51,263 the general gave this past Sunday? 176 00:07:51,287 --> 00:07:53,855 I don't see what all the fuss is about. 177 00:07:53,890 --> 00:07:57,492 His message was, "Everybody is your neighbor. 178 00:07:57,527 --> 00:08:01,241 And you have to love thy neighbor as thyself." 179 00:08:01,265 --> 00:08:03,776 I've been the secretary here since 1972. 180 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,834 Haven't missed a single Sunday service since I started. 181 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:08,936 Then you heard General Watson's sermon. 182 00:08:11,174 --> 00:08:14,359 You won't tell Reverend Owens everything I said, will you? 183 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:15,693 Not if you don't want me to. 184 00:08:15,728 --> 00:08:17,757 To be honest, I felt kind of uncomfortable. 185 00:08:17,781 --> 00:08:21,199 General Watson came down pretty hard on Islam. 186 00:08:21,235 --> 00:08:22,950 What exactly did he say? 187 00:08:22,986 --> 00:08:26,253 He said Muslims believe it's their religious duty 188 00:08:26,289 --> 00:08:27,956 to conquer the infidels. 189 00:08:27,991 --> 00:08:31,025 He said most Muslims are good, peaceful people, 190 00:08:31,060 --> 00:08:33,339 and very religiously observant. 191 00:08:33,363 --> 00:08:37,164 So, he never indicated that Islam was somehow evil? 192 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,766 Absolutely not. 193 00:08:38,802 --> 00:08:42,704 Now, he said all religions are second to Christianity, 194 00:08:42,739 --> 00:08:44,734 but we should respect them. 195 00:08:44,758 --> 00:08:47,392 He never exactly called Islam "evil." 196 00:08:47,427 --> 00:08:50,194 But he said, according to opinion polls, 197 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:52,825 most Muslims support the terrorists. 198 00:08:52,849 --> 00:08:55,550 He emphasized most Muslims hate the terrorists. 199 00:08:55,585 --> 00:08:58,631 He even mentioned some opinion polls to that effect. 200 00:08:58,655 --> 00:09:00,955 He went on like that for over an hour. 201 00:09:00,990 --> 00:09:02,801 Then he was gonna do a slide show. 202 00:09:02,825 --> 00:09:05,826 Thankfully, the projector broke down. 203 00:09:05,862 --> 00:09:08,091 Unfortunately, the projector broke down. 204 00:09:08,115 --> 00:09:12,049 But, uh, I could've listened to General Watson forever. 205 00:09:12,085 --> 00:09:14,219 He was inspiring. 206 00:09:14,254 --> 00:09:16,554 A true man of God. 207 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:19,757 My father was a Navy chaplain 208 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,526 since before I was born. 209 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:22,527 Thank you. 210 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:23,773 I never heard him once say 211 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:25,742 a single negative word about another religion. 212 00:09:25,766 --> 00:09:27,277 Yeah, no matter how we handle this, 213 00:09:27,301 --> 00:09:28,611 we'll offend a lot of people. 214 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:30,835 You okay? 215 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:32,136 Yeah, I'm fine. 216 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:34,049 Except I could use some help on this case. 217 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:35,139 I'd be glad to. 218 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:36,874 Just let me know if I get 219 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:38,443 overly sanctimonious. 220 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,761 You, Sturgis? 221 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:45,916 Oh, boy. 222 00:09:45,953 --> 00:09:46,985 What? 223 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,348 I was hoping this would go away. 224 00:09:48,372 --> 00:09:50,216 I'm being investigated. 225 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,456 For what? 226 00:09:53,643 --> 00:09:55,593 I'm afraid we have 227 00:09:55,629 --> 00:09:57,539 another cultural insensitivity case. 228 00:09:57,563 --> 00:10:00,397 Commander Turner stands accused of anti-Korean bias. 229 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:01,699 That surprises me, sir. 230 00:10:01,735 --> 00:10:04,102 Last fall, the commander and a Lieutenant Yi 231 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:05,670 were assigned to interrogate 232 00:10:05,705 --> 00:10:07,304 some North Korean submariners. 233 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:09,807 Lieutenant Yi claims the commander's attitudes 234 00:10:09,843 --> 00:10:11,943 caused the Navy to lose valuable intel. 235 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:13,489 I want you to investigate. 236 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:15,390 I've never heard the commander make 237 00:10:15,414 --> 00:10:17,734 any anti-Korean or anti-Asian remarks, sir. 238 00:10:17,768 --> 00:10:19,545 Well, if these allegations prove true, 239 00:10:19,569 --> 00:10:20,969 I want them documented. 240 00:10:21,004 --> 00:10:23,487 But if they're false, I want Turner's record cleared. 241 00:10:23,523 --> 00:10:24,489 Understood? 242 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:25,640 Yes, sir. 243 00:10:28,211 --> 00:10:29,944 What? 244 00:10:29,997 --> 00:10:32,041 I was in the same position a year ago, sir. 245 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:34,783 I had Commander Turner's professional future in my hands. 246 00:10:34,835 --> 00:10:37,151 Well, fortunately, he survived that experience. 247 00:10:37,204 --> 00:10:38,636 Barely, sir. 248 00:10:38,672 --> 00:10:40,266 Well, you'll do fine. That'll be all. 249 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:41,589 Yes, sir. 250 00:10:41,624 --> 00:10:43,469 So, what have you got on General Watson? 251 00:10:43,493 --> 00:10:44,904 We've talked to seven people 252 00:10:44,928 --> 00:10:46,939 who heard his guest sermon last Sunday, sir. 253 00:10:46,963 --> 00:10:48,529 And each one has a different story. 254 00:10:48,564 --> 00:10:50,076 But taken together, they indicate 255 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:51,978 General Watson publicly denigrated Islam. 256 00:10:52,002 --> 00:10:53,735 The evidence is highly ambiguous, sir. 257 00:10:53,770 --> 00:10:56,282 You two ever get tired of disagreeing? 258 00:10:56,306 --> 00:10:58,322 Yes, sir. No, sir. 259 00:10:58,358 --> 00:11:01,037 Sir, if the Colonel is correct, General Watson is guilty 260 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:02,293 of conduct unbecoming. 261 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:03,906 And not only that, his public statements 262 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:05,508 may be undermining our war on terrorism. 263 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:07,093 Sir, I think we're being roped 264 00:11:07,117 --> 00:11:08,994 into a politically correct witch hunt. 265 00:11:09,018 --> 00:11:10,084 Some overly ambitious 266 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,263 TV reporter makes exaggerated claims. 267 00:11:11,287 --> 00:11:12,598 Suddenly, we're all jumping through hoops. 268 00:11:12,622 --> 00:11:14,567 Well, Commander, you're going to need 269 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,824 a 12-foot ladder for this one. 270 00:11:16,859 --> 00:11:19,927 I taped this about ten minutes ago. 271 00:11:19,962 --> 00:11:22,357 There have been some stunning new developments in the story. 272 00:11:22,381 --> 00:11:24,849 Two and a half years ago, ZNN shot footage 273 00:11:24,884 --> 00:11:27,418 of a church service at a Marine Corps base in Virginia. 274 00:11:27,453 --> 00:11:29,282 That footage never aired at the time, 275 00:11:29,306 --> 00:11:31,384 but when the current controversy surfaced, 276 00:11:31,408 --> 00:11:33,557 our news staff was able to locate the tape. 277 00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:37,761 The speaker you're about to see is Marine General Earl Watson. 278 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:40,965 Our nation is under attack from men who believe, 279 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,802 as the Koran says, that you must "fight the unbeliever 280 00:11:44,837 --> 00:11:46,320 wherever you find them." 281 00:11:46,356 --> 00:11:49,324 We are locked in a worldwide struggle. 282 00:11:49,359 --> 00:11:51,826 And our enemy thinks 283 00:11:51,862 --> 00:11:53,394 that we are soft. 284 00:11:53,429 --> 00:11:56,331 Well, they are about to find out 285 00:11:56,366 --> 00:11:58,010 that we are a mighty Christian army 286 00:11:58,034 --> 00:12:02,320 and we will win this holy war. 287 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:14,748 General Watson has been awarded two Silver Stars and a Purple Heart. 288 00:12:14,784 --> 00:12:19,486 He's served his country with distinction for 25 years. 289 00:12:19,522 --> 00:12:20,988 He knew the rules, sir. 290 00:12:21,024 --> 00:12:23,135 As a high-ranking officer, you've got to watch your tongue. 291 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:26,694 I bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, A.J. 292 00:12:26,729 --> 00:12:29,797 At any rate, a court of inquiry has been convened 293 00:12:29,833 --> 00:12:32,033 to examine General Watson's conduct. 294 00:12:32,068 --> 00:12:34,313 I think that's a wise decision, sir. 295 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:38,055 Yes, and I want to keep it closed to the press. 296 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,936 Sir, you are aware that a court of inquiry 297 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,203 can recommend anything 298 00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:43,740 from a complete exoneration to a court-martial. 299 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:46,631 I'd tell you the result that I'm hoping for, 300 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:48,733 but I guess to avoid impropriety, 301 00:12:48,769 --> 00:12:50,518 I'd better hold my tongue. 302 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:53,388 Bet you enjoy that part of the job, don't you, sir. 303 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,501 Oh, yeah. 304 00:12:55,525 --> 00:12:58,059 MacKENZIE: I realize we can't stop people 305 00:12:58,111 --> 00:12:59,310 from being prejudiced. 306 00:12:59,345 --> 00:13:01,278 But there's no excuse for shooting off your mouth 307 00:13:01,314 --> 00:13:02,680 and alienating half the world. 308 00:13:02,716 --> 00:13:05,850 So when it comes to prejudice, "Don't ask, don't tell?" 309 00:13:05,885 --> 00:13:07,847 Colonel MacKenzie. Jill Waddington, ZNN. 310 00:13:07,871 --> 00:13:08,936 We've already met. 311 00:13:08,972 --> 00:13:10,316 Who authorized you to be in the building? 312 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:12,518 I have a meeting with the public affairs office. 313 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:13,542 Why is this inquiry 314 00:13:13,593 --> 00:13:14,658 being held in private? 315 00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:16,205 With all due respect, Ms. Waddington, 316 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,562 we have nothing to say. 317 00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:19,758 Is JAG attempting to whitewash General Watson's actions? 318 00:13:19,782 --> 00:13:21,082 The PAO's office is upstairs. 319 00:13:21,117 --> 00:13:23,262 Colonel, because your general acted inappropriately, 320 00:13:23,286 --> 00:13:26,653 is that a reason to be angry with the press? 321 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:29,234 How did she get onto General Watson in the first place? 322 00:13:29,258 --> 00:13:31,170 She says she was driving past the church 323 00:13:31,194 --> 00:13:33,494 and she just happened to see General Watson's name 324 00:13:33,529 --> 00:13:34,674 on the message board out front. 325 00:13:34,698 --> 00:13:35,663 That sounds convenient. 326 00:13:35,699 --> 00:13:36,809 You think she had a source? 327 00:13:36,833 --> 00:13:38,094 I'll subpoena her phone records. 328 00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:40,329 The general apparently used slides during his talks. 329 00:13:40,353 --> 00:13:41,848 We should get a hold of those, too. 330 00:13:41,872 --> 00:13:43,471 I feel a little hypocritical. 331 00:13:43,506 --> 00:13:45,539 I'm being investigated for prejudice, 332 00:13:45,575 --> 00:13:47,687 and here I am going PC on the general. 333 00:13:47,711 --> 00:13:50,678 Your case is totally different than General Watson's. 334 00:13:50,714 --> 00:13:52,630 Both of us could have our careers destroyed. 335 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:54,677 Sturgis, there's no way you're guilty. 336 00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:56,578 You're far too obsessively rational 337 00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:58,314 to be prejudiced against anyone. 338 00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,054 Thanks... I think. 339 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:02,201 Besides, I'm sure Lieutenant Roberts will determine 340 00:14:02,225 --> 00:14:03,791 there's nothing to it. 341 00:14:03,827 --> 00:14:05,359 Bud is investigating? 342 00:14:05,395 --> 00:14:08,345 I... I thought you knew. 343 00:14:09,999 --> 00:14:12,283 Our nation is under attack 344 00:14:12,319 --> 00:14:14,786 from men who believe, as the Koran says, 345 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:17,121 that they must "fight the unbeliever 346 00:14:17,156 --> 00:14:18,723 wherever they find them." 347 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:21,693 Members of the court, this quote is often used 348 00:14:21,728 --> 00:14:24,462 to "prove" that Islam is a warlike religion. 349 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:26,597 It's taken totally out of context. 350 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:30,768 It actually refers to a war 1,500 years ago 351 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:32,287 between a small Muslim community 352 00:14:32,322 --> 00:14:35,590 and the local tribesmen who were torturing and killing them. 353 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:37,970 I will grant the general may have misinterpreted the Koran. 354 00:14:37,994 --> 00:14:39,605 However, that has little to do with 355 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:41,240 the issue at this court of inquiry. 356 00:14:41,264 --> 00:14:42,997 The general, in uniform and in public, 357 00:14:43,032 --> 00:14:44,599 has been feeding false stereotypes 358 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:45,711 about Islam. 359 00:14:45,735 --> 00:14:47,695 Let's watch the rest of it, Colonel. 360 00:14:49,021 --> 00:14:53,324 We are engaged in a worldwide struggle. 361 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,627 And our enemy thinks that we are soft. 362 00:14:56,663 --> 00:14:58,496 But they are about to find out 363 00:14:58,531 --> 00:15:01,794 that we are a mighty Christian army 364 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:04,786 and we will win this holy war. 365 00:15:04,821 --> 00:15:07,288 The terrorists don't represent Islam 366 00:15:07,324 --> 00:15:11,158 any more than the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity. 367 00:15:11,194 --> 00:15:14,061 The general refers to a mighty Christian army. 368 00:15:14,096 --> 00:15:15,196 A holy war. 369 00:15:15,231 --> 00:15:16,409 Our president has been very explicit 370 00:15:16,433 --> 00:15:17,894 that this is not a religious war. 371 00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:20,885 Our President also used the word "crusade," 372 00:15:20,921 --> 00:15:23,288 which has a definite religious subtext. 373 00:15:23,323 --> 00:15:24,855 Religion is a part of life. 374 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,391 Our leaders need to feel 375 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,737 they can speak without censoring their every word. 376 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:31,396 This kind of loose talk endangers our national security. 377 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:35,033 There is no evidence that a few inappropriate words 378 00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:37,402 will have any impact whatsoever. 379 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:39,153 It's bad enough that some 380 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:41,355 radical Islamists are talking holy war. 381 00:15:41,391 --> 00:15:43,991 We don't need our own generals following suit. 382 00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:46,093 Now, the Arab street is watching this. 383 00:15:46,128 --> 00:15:47,662 A few more tapes like this, 384 00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:50,397 and Osama won't need to make his videos anymore. 385 00:15:50,432 --> 00:15:53,333 Gentlemen, I gave this sermon five days after 9/11. 386 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,536 We were pulling bodies from the rubble. 387 00:15:55,571 --> 00:15:57,171 Our nation was under attack. 388 00:15:57,206 --> 00:16:00,186 I wasn't paying attention to the niceties of speech. 389 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:04,662 Did you clear your comments with public affairs in advance? 390 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:09,028 Public affairs had a lot on its plate at the time. 391 00:16:09,052 --> 00:16:11,736 Were you aware the media would be at this church service? 392 00:16:11,771 --> 00:16:15,740 No. I flew in from Tampa the night before. 393 00:16:15,775 --> 00:16:17,975 But when you arrived at the chapel, 394 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:19,560 and saw the TV news crews, 395 00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:20,922 why didn't you moderate your comments? 396 00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:21,896 I believe the general 397 00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:23,448 has answered that question, sir. 398 00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:25,093 9/11 was not a time for moderation. 399 00:16:25,117 --> 00:16:26,379 Emotions were running high. 400 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:28,130 MacKENZIE: Yes, it was a crisis situation. 401 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:33,257 Exactly when we need our military leaders at their best. 402 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:36,176 Enter. 403 00:16:39,215 --> 00:16:41,193 Sir, we need that press release this afternoon. 404 00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:43,016 Half the letters to the editor 405 00:16:43,052 --> 00:16:45,986 say that General Watson deserves a Medal of Honor. 406 00:16:46,021 --> 00:16:48,400 The other half say he should be hung upside down by his toes. 407 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:50,269 Well, we are a divided country, sir. 408 00:16:50,293 --> 00:16:53,394 Oh, fortunately, we Americans have one thing in common. 409 00:16:53,429 --> 00:16:54,540 Bad traffic? 410 00:16:54,564 --> 00:16:55,796 Baseball. 411 00:16:55,831 --> 00:16:57,910 Actually, sir, I'm not much of a fan. 412 00:16:57,934 --> 00:17:01,151 I've fired people for less, Coates. 413 00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:02,419 Sir, I told SECNAV 414 00:17:02,454 --> 00:17:04,383 we'd fax it to him by 1500. 415 00:17:05,474 --> 00:17:06,707 Very well. 416 00:17:06,742 --> 00:17:08,921 You take shorthand, right? 417 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:09,977 Yes, sir. 418 00:17:10,012 --> 00:17:11,245 I took a course last summer. 419 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,342 I must say, I found it much more enlightening 420 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,177 than my Psychology 101 course. 421 00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:19,303 Okay... um... 422 00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:22,439 The formal inquiry into... 423 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,675 General Earl Watson's conduct 424 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:27,378 is expected to be completed by the end of this week. 425 00:17:28,947 --> 00:17:31,966 In the meantime, may I suggest that we... 426 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:35,152 set aside all our religious differences 427 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:38,689 and instead, concentrate our efforts 428 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:42,927 on bringing a major league baseball team 429 00:17:42,962 --> 00:17:44,411 back to the fine city 430 00:17:44,447 --> 00:17:46,680 of Washington, DC. 431 00:17:46,715 --> 00:17:48,595 I don't think that will fly, sir. 432 00:17:50,019 --> 00:17:52,236 Why don't I work on a first draft 433 00:17:52,271 --> 00:17:54,783 and then bring it in to you, sir. 434 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:55,989 Thanks, Coates. 435 00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:58,042 You're welcome, sir. 436 00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,744 Tell me something, Harm. 437 00:17:59,779 --> 00:18:01,790 Were you offended by the general's comments about Islam? 438 00:18:01,814 --> 00:18:03,025 A lot of things offend me, Mac. 439 00:18:03,049 --> 00:18:04,426 It's what gets me going in the morning. 440 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:06,050 Seriously. 441 00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:08,853 Look, do I agree with all of General Watson's views? No. 442 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,799 However, the general has spent his life 443 00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:12,067 protecting our freedoms. 444 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,036 Now we're trying to take away his right 445 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:16,894 to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. 446 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,445 Colonel? 447 00:18:18,481 --> 00:18:20,381 Now, doesn't that offend you? 448 00:18:23,736 --> 00:18:24,813 What is it? 449 00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:26,503 Jill Waddington's cell phone records. 450 00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:29,306 Prior to visiting the Alexandria Baptist Church, 451 00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:32,360 she spoke on the phone twice with a Marine corporal. 452 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:35,045 Her source. 453 00:18:38,134 --> 00:18:39,433 Sir. 454 00:18:39,469 --> 00:18:40,734 This is for you, Lieutenant. 455 00:18:40,769 --> 00:18:42,247 I understand you're the point man 456 00:18:42,271 --> 00:18:43,849 on the Lieutenant Yi investigation. 457 00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:45,217 It's not something I requested, sir. 458 00:18:45,241 --> 00:18:46,318 I put together all my papers 459 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:47,308 for you on the matter. 460 00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:48,476 Peruse them at your leisure. 461 00:18:48,511 --> 00:18:51,357 Thank you, sir. 462 00:18:51,381 --> 00:18:53,647 Don't you worry about it, Lieutenant. 463 00:18:53,683 --> 00:18:55,549 I'm sure you'll do a fine job. 464 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,107 Ma'am, is there any way to keep my identity secret? 465 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:06,527 What are you concerned about, Corporal Hamud? 466 00:19:06,563 --> 00:19:08,541 Well, no one likes a whistle-blower, ma'am. 467 00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:10,308 That's why I asked Ms. Waddington 468 00:19:10,332 --> 00:19:11,866 not to tell anyone about me. 469 00:19:11,901 --> 00:19:13,834 And how did you meet Ms. Waddington? 470 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:15,269 I met her at Parris Island. 471 00:19:15,304 --> 00:19:17,382 She was doing a story on boot camp. 472 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:18,584 So a couple weeks ago, 473 00:19:18,608 --> 00:19:20,318 when I heard that General Watson was getting 474 00:19:20,342 --> 00:19:21,987 a high-profile assignment from CENTCOM, 475 00:19:22,011 --> 00:19:23,038 I decided to call her. 476 00:19:23,062 --> 00:19:24,445 And why was that, Corporal? 477 00:19:26,049 --> 00:19:28,782 Ma'am, do you know that speech they're showing on TV, 478 00:19:28,817 --> 00:19:30,217 from after 9/11? 479 00:19:30,253 --> 00:19:31,852 Well, I was there. 480 00:19:31,887 --> 00:19:33,470 And it upset you? 481 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,367 Yes, ma'am. I'm a Muslim. 482 00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:38,359 What were you doing at a church service, Corporal? 483 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:40,711 It was not a church service, ma'am. 484 00:19:43,566 --> 00:19:45,177 It was an interfaith service, ma'am. 485 00:19:45,201 --> 00:19:48,269 That's how it was advertised in the Command Plan of the Day. 486 00:19:48,304 --> 00:19:50,938 As a time for all Marines to come together, 487 00:19:50,973 --> 00:19:53,807 no matter what their religion... and pray together. 488 00:19:53,842 --> 00:19:55,509 And that's why you went there? 489 00:19:55,545 --> 00:19:57,010 Ma'am, when 9/11 happened, 490 00:19:57,046 --> 00:19:59,580 a lot of off-color comments got thrown around, 491 00:19:59,615 --> 00:20:01,593 "raghead this" and "towelhead that." 492 00:20:01,617 --> 00:20:04,452 I thought this service would be a chance to worship 493 00:20:04,487 --> 00:20:06,920 with my fellow Marines, and feel solidarity. 494 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:09,223 Is that the way it worked out, Corporal Hamud? 495 00:20:09,258 --> 00:20:10,724 No, ma'am. 496 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:13,561 When General Watson started trash-talking Islam... 497 00:20:13,596 --> 00:20:16,108 it seemed like my country was turning against me. 498 00:20:16,132 --> 00:20:17,977 That must have been distressing. 499 00:20:18,001 --> 00:20:19,266 Ma'am, I'm getting out 500 00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:20,712 of the Marine Corps next month. 501 00:20:20,736 --> 00:20:22,781 I don't blame my decision on General Watson. 502 00:20:22,805 --> 00:20:25,306 But his speech sure didn't make me want to re-enlist. 503 00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:27,991 Corporal, were you the only non-Christian at the service? 504 00:20:28,026 --> 00:20:29,746 There were at least two other Muslims 505 00:20:29,779 --> 00:20:32,591 and two Jews that I knew of, ma'am. 506 00:20:32,615 --> 00:20:35,015 And they were all very upset also. 507 00:20:35,050 --> 00:20:38,352 Does counsel for the party have any questions? 508 00:20:38,387 --> 00:20:39,620 Yes, I do. 509 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:42,089 Corporal Hamud, did you ever hear General Watson 510 00:20:42,125 --> 00:20:43,435 say anything questionable 511 00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:44,925 other than that one time? 512 00:20:44,961 --> 00:20:46,160 No, sir. 513 00:20:46,195 --> 00:20:47,472 But I didn't have much contact with him. 514 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:49,736 So then would you agree that there are many Muslims 515 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:51,694 serving in the Marine Corps who are happy? 516 00:20:51,718 --> 00:20:52,828 I do know several Muslims 517 00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:54,496 who are relatively content, yes, sir. 518 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,481 So then there is 519 00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:56,837 no anti-Muslim sentiment 520 00:20:56,873 --> 00:20:58,639 that pervades the Marine Corps? 521 00:20:58,675 --> 00:21:01,642 I'd say when it comes to anti-Muslim prejudice, 522 00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:03,778 the Marine Corps is about the same 523 00:21:03,813 --> 00:21:05,846 as the rest of society, sir. 524 00:21:05,882 --> 00:21:09,649 But our leaders shouldn't be out there fanning the flames, sir. 525 00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:18,142 When 9/11 happened, we were all in a state of shock. 526 00:21:18,177 --> 00:21:22,679 To some extent that excuses General Watson's actions. 527 00:21:22,714 --> 00:21:26,417 However, the general disobeyed military regulations 528 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:29,420 by delivering a potentially inflammatory speech 529 00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:31,822 in front of the press, in uniform, 530 00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:34,458 without getting it cleared beforehand. 531 00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:37,761 Furthermore, there is some evidence that he has continued 532 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:41,432 a pattern of questionable remarks since then. 533 00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:44,134 General Watson, your rhetoric 534 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,254 has damaged our nation's relations with our allies. 535 00:21:47,307 --> 00:21:50,675 Your outspoken views disrupted good order and discipline 536 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:52,159 within the Marine Corps. 537 00:21:52,195 --> 00:21:54,628 This court of inquiry recommends that you be charged 538 00:21:54,664 --> 00:21:56,396 with dereliction of duty 539 00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:58,415 and conduct unbecoming an officer... 540 00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:01,035 and that these charges be disposed of 541 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:03,186 at general court-martial. 542 00:22:13,515 --> 00:22:15,260 All the major American networks 543 00:22:15,284 --> 00:22:18,886 and Al Jazeera will be covering the court-martial. 544 00:22:18,921 --> 00:22:20,431 By the time this is over, sir, 545 00:22:20,455 --> 00:22:22,968 General Watson's controversial statements about Islam 546 00:22:22,992 --> 00:22:24,535 will be seen by hundreds of millions of people. 547 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:25,904 Why don't we just accept the fact 548 00:22:25,928 --> 00:22:28,006 that some of our leaders have strong opinions 549 00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:29,808 and that's what makes them great leaders? 550 00:22:29,832 --> 00:22:31,431 Great leaders don't actively promote 551 00:22:31,466 --> 00:22:32,611 the clash of civilizations. 552 00:22:32,635 --> 00:22:34,768 Mac, that was the media's doing. 553 00:22:34,803 --> 00:22:36,670 General Watson merely stated 554 00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:39,656 his belief that God is not neutral 555 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:42,075 in the struggle between freedom and terrorism. 556 00:22:42,111 --> 00:22:43,510 No, I think God would prefer it 557 00:22:43,545 --> 00:22:45,865 if people didn't throw his name around quite so much. 558 00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:48,293 Excuse me, sir. 559 00:22:48,317 --> 00:22:49,449 Good morning, everybody. 560 00:22:49,484 --> 00:22:50,628 Mr. Secretary. 561 00:22:50,652 --> 00:22:52,319 As you were. 562 00:22:52,354 --> 00:22:54,988 I just dropped by to thank the admiral 563 00:22:55,024 --> 00:22:58,325 for keeping the investigation of General Watson so quiet. 564 00:22:58,378 --> 00:22:59,693 Sir, there is no way... 565 00:22:59,746 --> 00:23:01,678 Just kidding. Just kidding, A.J. 566 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:04,715 At this point, we'll just let the chips fall where they may. 567 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:07,312 Let's show our allies and our enemies 568 00:23:07,336 --> 00:23:10,270 American military jurisprudence at its finest. 569 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:11,505 Yes, sir. 570 00:23:11,557 --> 00:23:13,357 Colonel MacKenzie, uh, 571 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:16,427 who are you planning to have testify? 572 00:23:16,462 --> 00:23:18,006 Actually, uh, Mr. Secretary, 573 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,550 I was thinking of calling you. 574 00:23:21,317 --> 00:23:22,795 General Watson is charged 575 00:23:22,819 --> 00:23:24,380 with speeding up the flow of intel 576 00:23:24,404 --> 00:23:27,971 to all field units that are tracking top-ranked terrorists. 577 00:23:28,007 --> 00:23:29,818 Sir, have the general's comments about Islam 578 00:23:29,842 --> 00:23:32,643 affected his ability to fulfill his mission? 579 00:23:32,678 --> 00:23:33,856 Now that they've been publicized, 580 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,123 they could have a negative effect, yes. 581 00:23:35,147 --> 00:23:36,113 In what way? 582 00:23:36,148 --> 00:23:37,593 Objection: calls for speculation. 583 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,183 It's well within the witness's field of expertise. 584 00:23:40,219 --> 00:23:41,919 Overruled. 585 00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:43,182 The general allegedly said 586 00:23:43,206 --> 00:23:45,839 that we're engaged in a war against Islam; 587 00:23:45,874 --> 00:23:49,209 that could make some Iraqis less likely to cooperate 588 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:50,439 with our military. 589 00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:52,274 Mr. Secretary, could this endanger the safety 590 00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:53,442 of our troops in the field? 591 00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:54,993 Objection, Your Honor. 592 00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:56,182 Again overruled. 593 00:23:56,218 --> 00:23:58,030 In general, when we don't 594 00:23:58,054 --> 00:24:00,833 have cooperation, the safety of our troops becomes an issue. 595 00:24:00,857 --> 00:24:04,258 Sir, have the general's statements given ammunition 596 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:06,255 to Islamic extremists in their efforts 597 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:07,372 to gain new recruits? 598 00:24:07,396 --> 00:24:09,112 They could have, yes. 599 00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:10,592 And how have the general's statements affected Muslims 600 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,399 in the United States military? 601 00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:15,052 I can't imagine they're too happy about it. 602 00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:17,588 They didn't sign up to be in a Christian army. 603 00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:19,701 They signed up to be American servicemen and women. 604 00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:21,057 Thank you, Mr. Secretary. 605 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:22,392 You're welcome. 606 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:24,861 Sir, aside from Marine Corporal Hamud, 607 00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:27,041 have any other Muslim serviceman ever complained 608 00:24:27,065 --> 00:24:28,265 about General Watson? 609 00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:29,844 According to Headquarters, Marine Corps, 610 00:24:29,868 --> 00:24:31,280 there have been no other complaints. 611 00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:33,970 Have the general's words had any clear 612 00:24:34,006 --> 00:24:35,984 and direct impact on the war on terrorism, sir? 613 00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:39,260 There's been no direct impact that I could quantify. 614 00:24:39,312 --> 00:24:41,290 Have the general's statements inflamed 615 00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:43,224 any moderate Muslims and caused them 616 00:24:43,248 --> 00:24:45,215 to pick up the bloody sword of jihad? 617 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,578 Not to my knowledge, Commander. 618 00:24:46,602 --> 00:24:48,547 How has the general performed in his mission 619 00:24:48,571 --> 00:24:51,383 to capture Saddam Hussein and other Baathist loyalists, sir? 620 00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:53,007 Admirably. 621 00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:54,686 He was instrumental in the capture 622 00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:55,959 of over 45 of the targets 623 00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:58,139 in the famous deck of cards. 624 00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,725 Do you feel, Mr. Secretary, 625 00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:01,793 removing General Watson from this assignment 626 00:25:01,817 --> 00:25:04,702 would negatively impact the war on terrorism? 627 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:08,066 You could definitely make that argument. 628 00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:10,323 You have calls from the Anti-Defamation League, 629 00:25:10,358 --> 00:25:12,037 the Council for Islamic Relations, 630 00:25:12,061 --> 00:25:15,028 the American Association of Churches. 631 00:25:15,064 --> 00:25:17,130 Coates, in the 1930s, 632 00:25:17,165 --> 00:25:20,150 do you know who the most famous Jew was? 633 00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:22,569 Uh... Albert Einstein, sir? 634 00:25:22,605 --> 00:25:24,738 More famous than Einstein. 635 00:25:24,774 --> 00:25:26,740 Sigmund Freud? 636 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:29,743 More famous than Freud. 637 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:31,145 I give up, sir. 638 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:32,879 Hank Greenberg. 639 00:25:32,915 --> 00:25:34,581 Hank Greenberg, sir? 640 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,583 AKA Hammering Hank. 641 00:25:36,619 --> 00:25:39,019 Hall of Fame, first baseman, left-fielder. 642 00:25:39,054 --> 00:25:42,089 Led the Detroit Tigers to four World Series. 643 00:25:42,124 --> 00:25:44,674 It figures this would be about baseball, sir. 644 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:48,212 Hank Greenberg did more to combat anti-Semitism 645 00:25:48,247 --> 00:25:50,681 in the '30s than any other man. 646 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:54,951 When you're rooting for a Jewish guy to hit one over the fence, 647 00:25:54,986 --> 00:25:57,053 it makes it harder to hate Jews. 648 00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,486 Coates, you know what this world needs? 649 00:26:01,510 --> 00:26:03,226 Stockings that don't run, sir? 650 00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:06,329 A Muslim who can hit 60 home runs. 651 00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,043 But we have had famous Muslim 652 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:09,199 athletes, sir. 653 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,046 Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar... 654 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:14,638 Oh, I know, I know, but it's... 655 00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:16,607 not baseball. 656 00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:19,243 Petty Officer, 657 00:26:19,278 --> 00:26:20,422 may I see you for a minute? 658 00:26:20,446 --> 00:26:21,645 Is something wrong, ma'am? 659 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,313 In my office. 660 00:26:28,304 --> 00:26:31,504 Petty Officer, we have a question. 661 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:34,708 Is Meredith's marriage to the admiral on or off? 662 00:26:34,743 --> 00:26:36,738 Sir, I-I don't think I'm at liberty... 663 00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:37,906 MacKENZIE: We need to know for sure, Jennifer. 664 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,630 Otherwise, one of us is going to embarrass 665 00:26:39,665 --> 00:26:41,097 ourselves by asking. 666 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,600 Incurring the admiral's wrath, which we don't want. 667 00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:46,536 I hear that... sir. 668 00:26:46,572 --> 00:26:47,849 We have to know if the wedding is on 669 00:26:47,873 --> 00:26:49,318 so that we can all make plans. 670 00:26:49,342 --> 00:26:51,775 Sir, the admiral has never told me anything directly. 671 00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:53,560 You know something. 672 00:26:53,596 --> 00:26:56,680 Yes, sir, I do. 673 00:26:56,715 --> 00:27:00,416 And those are two words the admiral won't be saying. 674 00:27:01,503 --> 00:27:03,670 Americans, for some reason, can't seem to tell 675 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,672 the difference between real Islam 676 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:07,652 and the terrorists' perversion of Islam. 677 00:27:07,676 --> 00:27:11,878 When I saw the general's sermon on television, I was disturbed. 678 00:27:11,914 --> 00:27:13,280 Why is that, General Jabra? 679 00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:14,910 I've always admired General Watson. 680 00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:16,066 I fought beside him. 681 00:27:16,101 --> 00:27:17,434 I've trusted him with my life. 682 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:20,770 Now I learn that he despises my religion. 683 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:23,590 My feeling was, in a sense... 684 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:24,920 he despises me. 685 00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:27,611 Did your fellow Iraqi military and police officers 686 00:27:27,647 --> 00:27:29,212 have similar reactions? 687 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:30,759 Some of them heard the general. 688 00:27:30,783 --> 00:27:31,877 It didn't really bother them. 689 00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:33,711 They said it was just words. 690 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:35,580 How did the other Iraqi officers react? 691 00:27:35,604 --> 00:27:38,422 Many Iraqis, including military officers, 692 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:42,158 are saying, "You see what these Americans think of us? 693 00:27:42,194 --> 00:27:44,405 "No wonder the reconstruction is going so slowly," 694 00:27:44,429 --> 00:27:46,308 that "They don't really give a damn." 695 00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:48,298 Thank you. 696 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:50,334 Your witness. 697 00:27:50,369 --> 00:27:54,721 General, are the Iraqi people grateful that Saddam Hussein 698 00:27:54,757 --> 00:27:55,789 and his cohorts are gone? 699 00:27:55,824 --> 00:27:57,074 No question. 700 00:27:57,109 --> 00:28:00,127 Are they aware of General Watson's role in that, sir? 701 00:28:00,162 --> 00:28:01,606 They know that the general 702 00:28:01,630 --> 00:28:02,940 has been effective in bringing torturers 703 00:28:02,964 --> 00:28:04,397 and murderers to justice. 704 00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:06,282 Do you feel the Iraqi people, 705 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:08,618 in the light of everything General Watson has done, 706 00:28:08,654 --> 00:28:10,286 could forgive his comments? 707 00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:12,405 I can only speak for myself, Commander. 708 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:13,723 Please do, sir. 709 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:17,877 When I saw the general's comments on television, 710 00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,047 the ones that have been verified, 711 00:28:20,082 --> 00:28:23,216 he made them right after 9/11. 712 00:28:23,252 --> 00:28:26,119 For that reason, I'm willing... As you would say... 713 00:28:26,155 --> 00:28:27,487 "Cut him some slack." 714 00:28:27,522 --> 00:28:30,740 Also... 715 00:28:30,776 --> 00:28:32,109 Also what, sir? 716 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:36,113 I do not wish to offend. 717 00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:40,083 However, I sometimes personally feel as though Christianity 718 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,147 is a very odd religion. 719 00:28:42,171 --> 00:28:45,572 You have a Father, a Son, a Holy Ghost? 720 00:28:45,608 --> 00:28:49,025 What is this... One God, three gods, what? 721 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,461 So... 722 00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:54,247 if I find your religion a little bizarre, 723 00:28:54,282 --> 00:28:57,384 I can't get too angry with you for finding mine... 724 00:28:57,419 --> 00:28:59,085 equally strange. 725 00:28:59,121 --> 00:29:02,506 Today's witnesses were a mixed bag 726 00:29:02,541 --> 00:29:03,807 for the prosecution. 727 00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:05,954 In fact, some foreign observers questioned whether 728 00:29:05,978 --> 00:29:08,478 the prosecution is actually trying to win this case, 729 00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:10,692 since it could prove embarrassing for the government. 730 00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:12,260 Thank you, Jill. Stupid twit. 731 00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:13,750 Well, that we agree on. 732 00:29:13,786 --> 00:29:15,830 Listen, I need your witness list for tomorrow. 733 00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:16,920 Still working on it. 734 00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:19,189 Mac, you know... Skip it, Harm. 735 00:29:19,224 --> 00:29:20,735 I'm not interested in a deal. Neither am I. 736 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,987 In fact, I think you should have the charges dropped. 737 00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,510 Dream on. 738 00:29:24,546 --> 00:29:25,862 All you have are statements 739 00:29:25,898 --> 00:29:27,342 the general made right after 9/11. 740 00:29:27,366 --> 00:29:29,527 And the ones he made at the Alexandria Baptist Church 741 00:29:29,551 --> 00:29:31,385 less than one month ago. 742 00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:33,548 There's no objective record of his statements, Mac. 743 00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:36,039 You call witnesses to testify that he attacked Islam 744 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:37,718 and the church; I'll call witnesses 745 00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:39,622 who remember the exact opposite. 746 00:29:40,696 --> 00:29:42,574 I believe Commander Turner's 747 00:29:42,598 --> 00:29:44,148 racially biased against Koreans. 748 00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:45,427 And you believe this bias 749 00:29:45,451 --> 00:29:47,262 restricted your ability to gather intel. 750 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,401 It did, Lieutenant. 751 00:29:48,437 --> 00:29:49,853 In what way? 752 00:29:49,888 --> 00:29:51,750 A North Korean submarine crew was rescued 753 00:29:51,774 --> 00:29:53,807 by one of our attack subs. 754 00:29:53,842 --> 00:29:55,387 Commander Turner allowed a sailor 755 00:29:55,411 --> 00:29:57,327 to antagonize a North Korean skipper, 756 00:29:57,362 --> 00:29:58,812 who became mentally agitated. 757 00:29:58,847 --> 00:30:01,748 Then Commander Turner supported him being tied up. 758 00:30:01,783 --> 00:30:03,583 That shut him down completely, 759 00:30:03,618 --> 00:30:05,818 rendering him useless as an intelligence source. 760 00:30:05,854 --> 00:30:08,166 I'm sorry, Lieutenant, I don't understand 761 00:30:08,190 --> 00:30:10,268 how racial bias comes into play here. 762 00:30:10,292 --> 00:30:12,242 Commander Turner made statements 763 00:30:12,277 --> 00:30:15,511 which suggested he had little respect for Koreans. 764 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:17,981 I believe this attitude motivated his treatment 765 00:30:18,016 --> 00:30:20,650 of the North Korean skipper. 766 00:30:20,685 --> 00:30:22,297 Lieutenant, it says here in your file 767 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:23,497 that when you were a child, 768 00:30:23,521 --> 00:30:25,300 a black man robbed and shot your father 769 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:28,325 in his convenience store. 770 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,609 Yes. 771 00:30:29,645 --> 00:30:31,606 Did that affect your opinion of Commander Turner? 772 00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:33,775 Commander Turner didn't shoot my father, Lieutenant. 773 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,110 No, but I spoke with your father 774 00:30:35,134 --> 00:30:36,878 yesterday about the man who did shoot him. 775 00:30:36,902 --> 00:30:39,269 And he referred to his assailant as a "nigger." 776 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,382 Have you ever used that word, Lieutenant? 777 00:30:41,406 --> 00:30:42,672 No. 778 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:44,886 How do you feel about your father using that word? 779 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:46,543 I do not approve, Lieutenant. 780 00:30:46,579 --> 00:30:48,659 But you understand why he speaks that way. 781 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:51,548 Yes. 782 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:52,811 Did what happen 783 00:30:52,835 --> 00:30:54,835 make you angry, Lieutenant? 784 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:56,202 At times. 785 00:30:56,238 --> 00:30:59,822 As angry as your father? 786 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,225 Lieutenant, you have had six months 787 00:31:02,261 --> 00:31:04,361 to think about your accusations. 788 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:06,174 Can you honestly tell me that you haven't, 789 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,900 at least once during that time, questioned your motives? 790 00:31:16,925 --> 00:31:18,069 MacKENZIE: Sturgis, we need to establish 791 00:31:18,093 --> 00:31:20,927 a continuing pattern of anti-Islamic remarks. 792 00:31:20,963 --> 00:31:22,128 That would be good. 793 00:31:22,164 --> 00:31:23,308 Maybe we should call witnesses 794 00:31:23,332 --> 00:31:24,976 from the church in Alexandria. 795 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,467 We need some kind of physical evidence to back them up. 796 00:31:27,502 --> 00:31:30,036 Anybody can claim someone else made prejudiced remarks. 797 00:31:30,072 --> 00:31:32,505 I don't know how much weight that should really carry. 798 00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:34,185 I understand Lieutenant Yi is topside. 799 00:31:34,209 --> 00:31:35,803 I'm sure it's going to be all right. 800 00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:37,944 Racial issues are so subjective. 801 00:31:37,979 --> 00:31:40,814 How do you know for sure I'm not anti-Korean? 802 00:31:40,849 --> 00:31:42,032 How do I know? 803 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,400 Well, for one thing, 804 00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:44,946 you don't have a continuing pattern 805 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,250 of anti-Korean remarks. 806 00:31:47,622 --> 00:31:50,440 What is on your computer? 807 00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:52,837 These are the slides the general couldn't show in Alexandria 808 00:31:52,861 --> 00:31:54,995 because the projector broke down. 809 00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:57,530 I'm not sure where this is, maybe Baghdad. 810 00:31:57,565 --> 00:31:58,982 Maybe he showed these 811 00:31:59,017 --> 00:32:00,444 at one of the other churches he spoke at recently. 812 00:32:00,468 --> 00:32:01,846 Anything we can use? 813 00:32:01,870 --> 00:32:04,270 Depends on the commentary he gave when he ran the slides. 814 00:32:06,608 --> 00:32:09,108 These are the same slides General Watson showed 815 00:32:09,144 --> 00:32:11,878 at my church in Baltimore five months ago. 816 00:32:11,913 --> 00:32:13,207 For the record, Reverend Haynes, 817 00:32:13,231 --> 00:32:14,875 what does this slide show? 818 00:32:14,899 --> 00:32:16,683 Our Lord Jesus Christ. 819 00:32:16,719 --> 00:32:19,603 And this next slide shows? 820 00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:21,271 The Devil. 821 00:32:21,307 --> 00:32:22,701 And how about this one? 822 00:32:22,725 --> 00:32:24,268 Um, it's a map of the world 823 00:32:24,292 --> 00:32:25,453 with the Muslim countries 824 00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:27,010 in red. 825 00:32:27,045 --> 00:32:29,040 Why did General Watson put this slide right after the Devil? 826 00:32:29,064 --> 00:32:30,847 Objection: calls for an opinion. 827 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:33,366 I'll allow it for now. Overruled. 828 00:32:33,402 --> 00:32:37,437 He was making a point that in these Muslim countries, 829 00:32:37,472 --> 00:32:39,622 the Devil is fighting for power. 830 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:40,890 When he made this point, 831 00:32:40,925 --> 00:32:43,376 was the general wearing a Marine Corps uniform? 832 00:32:43,412 --> 00:32:45,211 Yes, he was. 833 00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:51,201 Did the general explain the significance of this slide? 834 00:32:51,236 --> 00:32:52,781 It's a photograph that the general took 835 00:32:52,805 --> 00:32:53,949 of Baghdad on fire. 836 00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:57,140 And why did he say he included this one? 837 00:32:57,176 --> 00:32:59,576 Um... 838 00:32:59,611 --> 00:33:02,745 when I invited the general to speak at my church, 839 00:33:02,781 --> 00:33:05,243 I wasn't aware what his views were. 840 00:33:05,267 --> 00:33:07,901 What did he say? 841 00:33:07,936 --> 00:33:11,137 That if you look closely enough in the smoke, 842 00:33:11,172 --> 00:33:12,472 you can see the Devil. 843 00:33:14,776 --> 00:33:17,336 Exactly where would that be, Reverend Haynes? 844 00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:23,650 I really don't know, Commander. 845 00:33:35,196 --> 00:33:36,358 Do you have a moment, sir? 846 00:33:36,382 --> 00:33:38,214 Come on in, Lieutenant. 847 00:33:38,250 --> 00:33:40,395 Heard you had a good day in court. 848 00:33:40,419 --> 00:33:42,202 Sometimes you get lucky. 849 00:33:42,254 --> 00:33:44,221 I have some information, sir. 850 00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:46,234 I've just been informed that Lieutenant Yi 851 00:33:46,258 --> 00:33:48,692 has decided to drop all charges against you. 852 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,614 What, uh, did you say to him, Lieutenant? 853 00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:56,116 Oh, nothing special. 854 00:33:56,151 --> 00:33:58,062 Actually, I got him to think a little bit more 855 00:33:58,086 --> 00:33:59,853 about what he was saying, sir. 856 00:33:59,888 --> 00:34:02,188 Also, I threatened to punch his lights out. 857 00:34:03,491 --> 00:34:05,458 I appreciate that, Lieutenant. 858 00:34:05,494 --> 00:34:08,161 Sir, there is no way I was gonna let you down this time. 859 00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:14,934 I believe that God is with us every day. 860 00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:16,803 He gives us signs, 861 00:34:16,838 --> 00:34:20,040 and the reason we pray is so that we can see these signs 862 00:34:20,075 --> 00:34:22,142 and understand God's will for us. 863 00:34:22,177 --> 00:34:24,188 And one of these signs appeared to you 864 00:34:24,212 --> 00:34:25,712 in the smoke over Baghdad? 865 00:34:25,747 --> 00:34:27,063 Commander, 866 00:34:27,099 --> 00:34:31,367 I believe that in the middle of that fierce battle, 867 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:34,404 when my life and the lives of thousands of others 868 00:34:34,439 --> 00:34:40,009 were in danger, God allowed me to see the face of the Devil. 869 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:47,584 But you think I'm a nut, don't you? 870 00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:49,952 No, no, I don't, sir. 871 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:51,665 I have no doubt that in war 872 00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:54,791 some people have very intense spiritual experiences. 873 00:34:56,811 --> 00:34:58,411 Unfortunately, we live 874 00:34:58,446 --> 00:35:03,049 in a profoundly antireligious culture. 875 00:35:03,084 --> 00:35:05,084 Have you been watching the news, Commander? 876 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:06,802 No, sir. I have. 877 00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:08,521 It's a mistake, General. 878 00:35:08,557 --> 00:35:10,974 They're going out of their way to make 879 00:35:11,009 --> 00:35:12,809 my religious beliefs look foolish. 880 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,489 Sir, tomorrow in your testimony, 881 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:16,056 you're gonna need to play down 882 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,076 some of your more controversial views. 883 00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,467 I refuse to lie about what I believe in. 884 00:35:20,502 --> 00:35:21,968 General, like it or not, 885 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:24,804 we need to counteract the bad press you've been getting. 886 00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:32,562 Commander, I hate to take personal credit 887 00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:34,797 for deeds I've done in the name of Jesus, 888 00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:39,402 but perhaps... there is one potential witness 889 00:35:39,437 --> 00:35:41,554 that might be of some help. 890 00:35:43,592 --> 00:35:45,592 My husband Ayman was in a unit 891 00:35:45,627 --> 00:35:48,695 commanded by General Jabra and General Watson. 892 00:35:48,730 --> 00:35:51,742 What happened to your husband, Mrs. Sattar? 893 00:35:51,766 --> 00:35:54,234 He was killed in a fedayeen ambush. 894 00:35:54,269 --> 00:35:56,531 How did you meet General Watson, ma'am? 895 00:35:56,555 --> 00:35:59,556 He came to our house to show his respects. 896 00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:01,308 Then he found out 897 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,659 I have breast cancer, 898 00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,672 and the Iraqi hospital could not help me. 899 00:36:04,696 --> 00:36:06,896 What did the general do? 900 00:36:06,931 --> 00:36:08,514 He said that the United States 901 00:36:08,567 --> 00:36:11,917 owed my family because my husband fought so bravely. 902 00:36:11,954 --> 00:36:14,187 So he brought me to this country. 903 00:36:14,222 --> 00:36:15,838 I live in an apartment 904 00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:17,306 owned by his church. 905 00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:19,759 The church pays for my treatments. 906 00:36:19,795 --> 00:36:22,996 Why did he do that, Mrs. Sattar? 907 00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:26,533 Because he is a good man. 908 00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:30,687 Has General Watson ever tried to convert you to Christianity? 909 00:36:30,722 --> 00:36:33,456 General Watson and his fellow church members 910 00:36:33,491 --> 00:36:36,809 drive me to a mosque every Friday night for services. 911 00:36:36,845 --> 00:36:38,911 Thank you, Mrs. Sattar, 912 00:36:38,947 --> 00:36:41,314 and I hope you recover fully, ma'am. 913 00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:43,449 Thank you. 914 00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:48,655 The government has no questions for this witness, Your Honor. 915 00:36:48,690 --> 00:36:50,190 I can't change what I believe, 916 00:36:50,225 --> 00:36:51,835 and what I believe is that we are engaged 917 00:36:51,859 --> 00:36:54,060 in far more than a physical battle. 918 00:36:54,095 --> 00:36:56,040 We are fighting for the good of mankind. 919 00:36:56,064 --> 00:36:57,530 Have your beliefs ever interfered 920 00:36:57,566 --> 00:36:59,299 in the performance of your duties, sir? 921 00:36:59,334 --> 00:37:00,595 On the contrary, Commander. 922 00:37:00,619 --> 00:37:02,563 My beliefs have given me the courage 923 00:37:02,587 --> 00:37:05,221 to go out on the front line and risk my life. 924 00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:06,422 Have you ever mistreated 925 00:37:06,458 --> 00:37:08,224 personnel under your command who didn't share 926 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,471 your beliefs, sir? I try to treat people of every religion 927 00:37:10,495 --> 00:37:11,990 as if they were my brother and sister. 928 00:37:12,014 --> 00:37:14,764 Is that why you brought Mrs. Sattar to this country 929 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,432 for medical treatment, sir? 930 00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:17,862 Yes. 931 00:37:17,886 --> 00:37:19,797 Have you had problems with Muslims 932 00:37:19,821 --> 00:37:21,616 under your command in the past, sir? 933 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,203 I've commanded Muslims and Jews and even Buddhists. 934 00:37:25,227 --> 00:37:27,104 The only problem I had was when the Buddhist 935 00:37:27,128 --> 00:37:29,445 kept beating everybody in poker. 936 00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:32,148 Why did you talk about 937 00:37:32,184 --> 00:37:34,050 your religious beliefs in public, sir? 938 00:37:34,086 --> 00:37:36,853 I talked about my religion in churches. 939 00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:40,005 It's enough we can't pray in our schools now. 940 00:37:40,042 --> 00:37:41,452 I hope we haven't gotten to the point 941 00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:44,077 where a Christian man can't express Christian views 942 00:37:44,112 --> 00:37:46,712 while speaking inside a Christian church. 943 00:37:46,748 --> 00:37:49,115 Thank you, General. 944 00:37:49,150 --> 00:37:50,717 Your witness. 945 00:37:50,752 --> 00:37:53,085 General Watson, when you speak in churches, 946 00:37:53,121 --> 00:37:55,255 are you, uh, acting as a private citizen 947 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:57,773 or as a spokesman for the United States military? 948 00:37:57,809 --> 00:38:00,276 As a private citizen. Well, then 949 00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:01,922 why wear your military uniform, sir? 950 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:03,958 Doesn't that give people a false impression? 951 00:38:03,982 --> 00:38:05,548 Colonel, I always make it clear 952 00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:07,245 that I'm giving personal witness. 953 00:38:07,269 --> 00:38:09,113 Wouldn't it have been much more clear 954 00:38:09,137 --> 00:38:11,237 if you had chosen to wear civilian dress? 955 00:38:11,273 --> 00:38:14,340 The congregations understood that my opinions were my own. 956 00:38:14,376 --> 00:38:15,874 Sir, did you ever clear 957 00:38:15,911 --> 00:38:19,012 your speeches with the chain of command or Public Affairs, 958 00:38:19,047 --> 00:38:21,259 as required by regulations? 959 00:38:21,283 --> 00:38:24,062 These were church sermons, not public speeches. 960 00:38:24,086 --> 00:38:26,431 Well, they became very public, didn't they, General? 961 00:38:26,455 --> 00:38:28,154 That wasn't my choice, Colonel. 962 00:38:28,189 --> 00:38:30,290 You spoke in front of a ZNN camera crew 963 00:38:30,342 --> 00:38:32,224 at an interfaith service. 964 00:38:32,260 --> 00:38:35,594 The service took place in a marine chapel. 965 00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:38,030 I assumed it was a regular church service. 966 00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:40,278 As far as speaking in front of a TV crew, 967 00:38:40,302 --> 00:38:43,081 that was a mistake... Especially since 968 00:38:43,105 --> 00:38:45,505 some of my statements were mischaracterized by the media. 969 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:47,840 Well, let's talk about your statements, sir. 970 00:38:47,875 --> 00:38:50,143 Did you say, as Reverend Haynes testified, 971 00:38:50,178 --> 00:38:52,123 that in all these Muslim countries, 972 00:38:52,147 --> 00:38:54,780 the Devil is fighting for power? 973 00:38:54,815 --> 00:38:56,499 I believe the Devil 974 00:38:56,535 --> 00:38:58,463 is fighting for power all over the world. 975 00:38:58,487 --> 00:39:00,954 Well, then why single out the Muslim countries? 976 00:39:00,989 --> 00:39:02,700 I wasn't criticizing Islam per se, 977 00:39:02,724 --> 00:39:04,602 but we'd be foolish not to recognize 978 00:39:04,626 --> 00:39:06,546 that the terrorists we're fighting 979 00:39:06,578 --> 00:39:07,877 are Muslims. 980 00:39:07,912 --> 00:39:10,263 So what exactly are you saying about Muslims, sir? 981 00:39:10,298 --> 00:39:11,909 Objection. The General's personal beliefs 982 00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:13,216 are not on trial here. 983 00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:15,162 No, but his public statements expressing them are. 984 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:16,318 Overruled. 985 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,815 Please answer, sir. 986 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:22,208 I believe the vast majority of Muslims are good people. 987 00:39:22,243 --> 00:39:25,812 But I also believe that Islam throughout history 988 00:39:25,847 --> 00:39:28,581 has frequently motivated some of its practitioners 989 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:31,417 to declare jihad, and that is what is happening now. 990 00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:33,453 What does "jihad" mean, sir? 991 00:39:33,488 --> 00:39:34,799 Holy war. 992 00:39:34,823 --> 00:39:37,168 Mm. 993 00:39:37,192 --> 00:39:40,626 General, are you aware that "jihad" actually means 994 00:39:40,662 --> 00:39:42,728 to struggle or strive for something, 995 00:39:42,763 --> 00:39:45,414 such as the welfare of one's fellow human beings, 996 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:48,351 and is often used in a totally peaceful context. 997 00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,686 That's not how I've heard it used, Colonel. 998 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:52,388 Sir, are you aware that Islam, 999 00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:53,923 like Christianity and Judaism, 1000 00:39:53,958 --> 00:39:56,826 only considers warfare justified if it's in self-defense, 1001 00:39:56,861 --> 00:39:58,823 or to liberate people who are suffering 1002 00:39:58,847 --> 00:40:01,113 from persecution and tyranny? 1003 00:40:02,416 --> 00:40:03,916 I'm not aware of that, no. 1004 00:40:03,952 --> 00:40:05,363 Are you aware that Islam, 1005 00:40:05,387 --> 00:40:08,053 again, like Christianity and Judaism, has rules about war 1006 00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:10,740 that prohibit killing children, women, 1007 00:40:10,776 --> 00:40:12,608 the elderly, and other noncombatants. 1008 00:40:12,644 --> 00:40:15,056 That's not the way our enemy's acting, Colonel. 1009 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,541 Sir, are you aware that Islam 1010 00:40:16,565 --> 00:40:20,232 specifically prohibits suicide, including suicide bombings? 1011 00:40:20,285 --> 00:40:21,450 Then why are they doing it? 1012 00:40:21,486 --> 00:40:22,880 Because they are not following Islam 1013 00:40:22,904 --> 00:40:25,771 any more than Timothy McVeigh was following Christianity. 1014 00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:28,886 Objection. Counsel is testifying now, Your Honor. 1015 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:30,042 MacKENZIE: Withdrawn. 1016 00:40:30,077 --> 00:40:31,222 General, don't you think that you should know 1017 00:40:31,246 --> 00:40:32,378 a little more about Islam 1018 00:40:32,413 --> 00:40:33,941 before you start discussing it in public? 1019 00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,665 Your Honor, while the general may not be 1020 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:37,199 an expert on comparative religions, 1021 00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:39,268 that has little to do with this court-martial. 1022 00:40:39,303 --> 00:40:41,248 Your Honor, General Watson has spread 1023 00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,700 false, hateful stereotypes 1024 00:40:42,724 --> 00:40:44,602 against another religion, and in so doing, 1025 00:40:44,626 --> 00:40:46,370 has hurt our image abroad, contributing 1026 00:40:46,394 --> 00:40:47,872 to the erosion of support for the Arab world There is no clear proof 1027 00:40:47,896 --> 00:40:49,473 of that, Your Honor. And possibly increased risk 1028 00:40:49,497 --> 00:40:50,958 Your Honor! to the members of the U.S. military. 1029 00:40:50,982 --> 00:40:53,449 Save it for closing arguments. 1030 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:56,119 Do you have any more questions for this witness? 1031 00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,755 Just one, Your Honor. 1032 00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:01,824 General Watson, 1033 00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,894 based on your experiences as a military officer, 1034 00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:07,846 do you believe that your statements on Islam 1035 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:11,116 aided the war on terrorism or damaged it? 1036 00:41:11,169 --> 00:41:14,937 Colonel, I have devoted my life to the service of this country, 1037 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:17,339 and I believe I still have much to give. 1038 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,959 You want to take me to task for being intolerant of Islam. 1039 00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:22,979 Well, I ask you to be tolerant of my beliefs. 1040 00:41:23,014 --> 00:41:26,332 All I ever did was speak honestly, from my heart. 1041 00:41:26,384 --> 00:41:28,751 For that, I do not think I should be relieved 1042 00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:32,822 of my duties in the Marine Corps. 1043 00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:36,142 Defendant and counsel will rise. 1044 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:39,328 Will the senior member please announce the findings. 1045 00:41:39,363 --> 00:41:42,927 Major General Earl Watson, United States Marine Corps, 1046 00:41:42,951 --> 00:41:45,151 on the charges and specifications 1047 00:41:45,186 --> 00:41:48,955 of dereliction of duty and conduct unbecoming an officer, 1048 00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:51,123 this court-martial finds you... 1049 00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:52,591 not guilty. 1050 00:41:54,913 --> 00:41:56,774 - Congratulations. - General Watson, 1051 00:41:56,798 --> 00:41:59,799 while this court has found you not guilty, 1052 00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:02,302 I intend to recommend to the convening authority 1053 00:42:02,337 --> 00:42:03,969 that you be formally counseled, 1054 00:42:04,005 --> 00:42:06,539 and ordered not to assert your beliefs 1055 00:42:06,591 --> 00:42:07,923 in public forums. 1056 00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:10,793 Despite your impassioned statement, 1057 00:42:10,828 --> 00:42:13,157 the right of free speech in the military 1058 00:42:13,181 --> 00:42:16,149 must be balanced with the primary mission 1059 00:42:16,184 --> 00:42:18,885 of defending our country. 1060 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520 There is no place for inflammatory remarks 1061 00:42:21,556 --> 00:42:23,906 about religion in today's Marine Corps. 1062 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,546 This court is hereby adjourned. 1063 00:42:30,582 --> 00:42:32,114 No hard feelings, Colonel. 1064 00:42:32,149 --> 00:42:34,650 We're all serving our country in different ways. 1065 00:42:34,686 --> 00:42:37,531 This was the scene today near Fallouja, 1066 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,722 where at least 18 marines have been killed 1067 00:42:39,757 --> 00:42:41,407 in a suicide bombing. 1068 00:42:41,459 --> 00:42:45,523 A previously unknown group called The Fire of Allah 1069 00:42:45,547 --> 00:42:47,558 claimed responsibility for what they called 1070 00:42:47,582 --> 00:42:50,082 a "glorious victory in this holy war." 1071 00:42:50,117 --> 00:42:52,818 Their message was delivered in an audiotape 1072 00:42:52,854 --> 00:42:54,620 which was left anonymously 1073 00:42:54,656 --> 00:42:57,557 at the Al Jazeera headquarters in Cairo. 1074 00:42:57,592 --> 00:42:59,058 If you'll excuse me. 1075 00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:01,577 This is the deadliest single attack on American troops 1076 00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:04,880 since the war in Iraq began one year ago. 1077 00:43:04,916 --> 00:43:08,450 Well, this is why we need men like General Watson. 1078 00:43:08,486 --> 00:43:10,920 Or not. 81829

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