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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:15,947 I repeat: we need backup and an ambulance ASAP! 2 00:00:19,053 --> 00:00:22,554 Suspect is armed with a fully automatic rifle 3 00:00:22,623 --> 00:00:25,290 and may have armor-piercing rounds! 4 00:00:26,610 --> 00:00:29,011 Barclay! Barclay! 5 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:31,863 I need you to let my deputy go now! 6 00:00:31,932 --> 00:00:34,582 Then get your men out of here, and I'll let her go! 7 00:00:34,651 --> 00:00:37,686 You know I can't do that, Barclay. 8 00:00:42,809 --> 00:00:44,626 Hang on, McInnis! 9 00:00:46,313 --> 00:00:48,296 You just hang in there. 10 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:57,405 Damn it! 11 00:00:57,474 --> 00:01:00,142 What the hell does he think he's doing? 12 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:04,129 Dispatch, this is Sheriff Driskell. 13 00:01:04,181 --> 00:01:06,059 I told you to tell those jarheads... 14 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:22,997 Get in there! 15 00:01:23,084 --> 00:01:24,566 Get in there! 16 00:01:28,789 --> 00:01:31,389 Dispatch, this is Sheriff Driskell. 17 00:01:31,459 --> 00:01:33,242 Get me the commanding general 18 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:37,195 at MCAS Yuma, now! 19 00:01:42,052 --> 00:01:43,752 I got 'em! 20 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:47,944 Barclay Cale was a widower 21 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:50,551 who had farmed this small piece of desert for most of his life. 22 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:52,060 Fifth time I've seen it this morning. 23 00:02:52,089 --> 00:02:53,089 It's all over the news. 24 00:02:53,156 --> 00:02:54,356 You know what they say, sir. 25 00:02:54,391 --> 00:02:56,235 "If it bleeds, it leads." Cale held off police 26 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,321 with a converted automatic weapon. 27 00:02:58,345 --> 00:03:00,162 The standoff sadly ended 28 00:03:00,231 --> 00:03:05,166 when a marine pilot chose to act as judge, jury and executioner. 29 00:03:05,235 --> 00:03:06,896 We could have taken him out alive. 30 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:08,765 No court in the land would have given Cale 31 00:03:08,789 --> 00:03:10,267 the death penalty for what he'd done. 32 00:03:10,291 --> 00:03:11,523 He hadn't killed anybody. 33 00:03:11,592 --> 00:03:14,693 But that marine pilot took the law into his own hands. 34 00:03:14,762 --> 00:03:15,905 Barclay Cale inherited... 35 00:03:15,929 --> 00:03:17,128 So, you see the urgency 36 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:18,441 in resolving this case? 37 00:03:18,465 --> 00:03:19,898 Sir, what was Major Tunney doing 38 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:21,300 so close to a police standoff? 39 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:22,712 I don't know. Should put that 40 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:24,536 on the top of your list of questions, Colonel. 41 00:03:24,605 --> 00:03:26,349 What do we know about Barclay Cale, sir? 42 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,373 Um, the, uh... 43 00:03:27,441 --> 00:03:28,606 Yuma County Sheriff 44 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:31,109 was attempting to arrest him for tax evasion. 45 00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:34,812 Property taxes he had lost to his creditors. 46 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:36,614 Geared up for one last stand. 47 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:38,794 Opened fire on the deputies as soon as they arrived. 48 00:03:38,818 --> 00:03:40,396 MacKENZIE: Sir, it's illegal for the military 49 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:42,653 to participate in arrests, searches 50 00:03:42,722 --> 00:03:44,255 or police activity on US soil, 51 00:03:44,324 --> 00:03:45,801 which means that when the marine pilot 52 00:03:45,825 --> 00:03:46,992 killed Barclay Cale, 53 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,060 he violated the Posse Comitatus Act. 54 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:50,462 May have, Colonel. 55 00:03:50,531 --> 00:03:53,665 Posse comitatus contains a lot of gray area. 56 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:55,361 Did the pilot feel the circumstances 57 00:03:55,385 --> 00:03:56,851 were exigent, sir? 58 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,781 Put that on your list of questions. 59 00:03:58,805 --> 00:04:00,172 Look, the, uh, administration's 60 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,218 taken a lot of heat for the Patriot Act. 61 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,362 Last thing they want is the public worrying 62 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:06,511 about, uh, the marines interfering 63 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:08,447 with domestic law enforcement. 64 00:04:08,515 --> 00:04:09,731 That will be all. 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,416 Aye, aye, sir. Aye, aye, sir. 66 00:04:23,213 --> 00:04:24,924 Sir. Good morning, Harriet. 67 00:04:24,948 --> 00:04:26,814 Good morning. 68 00:04:29,420 --> 00:04:30,601 Hey, Bud? 69 00:04:30,670 --> 00:04:32,404 Hey, honey, listen to this. 70 00:04:32,472 --> 00:04:33,504 "The pioneers 71 00:04:33,573 --> 00:04:36,190 "of a warless world are the youth 72 00:04:36,259 --> 00:04:38,459 who refuse military service." 73 00:04:38,528 --> 00:04:39,961 Whose case is that? 74 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:41,329 Albert Einstein. 75 00:04:41,398 --> 00:04:44,766 I-I mean, he said it. 76 00:04:44,835 --> 00:04:46,751 You all right? 77 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:48,053 No. 78 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,300 I got a call from the inspector general's office. 79 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:52,039 First time in three years. 80 00:04:52,108 --> 00:04:54,542 They're calling you back from temporary duty? 81 00:04:54,611 --> 00:04:55,611 I don't know. 82 00:04:55,646 --> 00:04:56,577 I have to report 83 00:04:56,647 --> 00:04:58,591 to General Tillmann at the Pentagon. 84 00:04:58,615 --> 00:05:00,493 Well, we always knew there was a chance 85 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:01,816 that you'd have to leave JAG. 86 00:05:01,885 --> 00:05:04,485 I guess I just tried to ignore it. 87 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:10,108 Harriet, let's not panic until we know for sure. 88 00:05:11,911 --> 00:05:13,427 Why are you quoting Einstein? 89 00:05:13,496 --> 00:05:14,779 Oh... 90 00:05:14,848 --> 00:05:17,215 I've been assigned as the investigating officer 91 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:20,718 in the case of, uh, Lieutenant Commander Justin Bentley. 92 00:05:20,787 --> 00:05:23,455 The navy paid for Commander Bentley's medical education. 93 00:05:23,524 --> 00:05:26,624 Now that his reserve unit has been put on standby 94 00:05:26,693 --> 00:05:28,043 for deployment in Iraq, 95 00:05:28,111 --> 00:05:30,911 he's claiming conscientious objector status 96 00:05:30,980 --> 00:05:32,614 and asking for separation 97 00:05:32,682 --> 00:05:35,650 based on his beliefs as a religious pacifist. 98 00:05:35,719 --> 00:05:38,452 And you don't find Commander Bentley is sincere? 99 00:05:38,521 --> 00:05:41,473 Well, everybody finds war objectionable, 100 00:05:41,542 --> 00:05:43,742 but sometimes it's necessary. 101 00:05:43,811 --> 00:05:46,861 So is standing by one's beliefs, though, Bud. 102 00:05:52,936 --> 00:05:55,048 Major Tunney is the real deal. 103 00:05:55,072 --> 00:05:57,217 He flew combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. 104 00:05:57,241 --> 00:05:59,574 Hell, he's trained over half the pilots on this base. 105 00:05:59,643 --> 00:06:00,643 It's not his skills 106 00:06:00,677 --> 00:06:02,237 that are at issue here, Colonel Pittman. 107 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,279 It's his judgment. 108 00:06:03,347 --> 00:06:04,979 I assume you debriefed Major Tunney 109 00:06:05,049 --> 00:06:06,348 after the incident. 110 00:06:06,417 --> 00:06:08,917 Major Tunney was conducting routine training. 111 00:06:08,985 --> 00:06:10,630 He noticed the standoff with the sheriff's department 112 00:06:10,654 --> 00:06:12,064 and the wounded deputy on the ground. 113 00:06:12,088 --> 00:06:14,556 He believed he could assist with emergency medical evac. 114 00:06:14,625 --> 00:06:16,302 That's when Mr. Cale opened fire on him. 115 00:06:16,326 --> 00:06:17,353 Well, the sheriff's 116 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:19,105 TV interviews left that part out. 117 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:21,829 Did the major seek authorization before returning fire, Colonel? 118 00:06:21,899 --> 00:06:23,809 He did. He was told to hold his position 119 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:25,745 while we attempted to contact the chain of command. 120 00:06:25,769 --> 00:06:27,297 You told him to hold his position 121 00:06:27,321 --> 00:06:28,820 or hold his fire? 122 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:30,288 Hold his position, Colonel. 123 00:06:30,357 --> 00:06:32,201 I would never instruct a marine to hold fire 124 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,436 while he's taking direct fire himself. 125 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:35,827 Why not just tell the major to leave the area? 126 00:06:35,895 --> 00:06:37,090 Because the major explained to me 127 00:06:37,114 --> 00:06:39,074 he thought he could save some lives. 128 00:06:47,891 --> 00:06:49,340 Sorry I kept you waiting. 129 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:52,327 Oh, I'm used to waiting for doctors, Commander. 130 00:06:52,396 --> 00:06:55,730 Well, I see that you have all the bells and whistles. 131 00:06:55,799 --> 00:06:57,365 I'm not Amish, Lieutenant. 132 00:06:57,434 --> 00:06:59,550 Quakers respect scientific advances. 133 00:06:59,619 --> 00:07:01,119 We simply believe they should be used 134 00:07:01,188 --> 00:07:03,972 to elevate humankind, not to kill. 135 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,508 Yeah, as investigating officer, it concerns me 136 00:07:07,578 --> 00:07:09,177 that you came to that conclusion 137 00:07:09,245 --> 00:07:11,947 just as your reserve unit was put on standby for activation. 138 00:07:12,015 --> 00:07:13,681 I know the timing seems convenient. 139 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:16,618 But the change in me came last year when I got married. 140 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:19,921 The six years I spent on active duty 141 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:21,951 in the navy, Lieutenant, were difficult ones, 142 00:07:21,975 --> 00:07:24,275 uh, wondering if I was contributing 143 00:07:24,344 --> 00:07:26,912 to the things I was seeing on the news. 144 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:28,779 The guilt was overwhelming. 145 00:07:31,635 --> 00:07:33,100 I see that you, uh, display 146 00:07:33,169 --> 00:07:35,770 your naval affiliation, Commander. 147 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:37,004 Why? 148 00:07:37,073 --> 00:07:39,056 Uh, put my patients at ease. 149 00:07:40,327 --> 00:07:42,561 You're part of the Navy Preferred Plan. 150 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:45,597 Most of your patients are military or military dependent. 151 00:07:45,666 --> 00:07:46,964 Once you're a civilian, 152 00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:48,645 are you going to leave the pictures up? 153 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:50,580 That would be hypocrisy, Lieutenant. 154 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:52,815 You think your clientele will accept that? 155 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:55,156 I sincerely hope that they will, Lieutenant. 156 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:01,790 MacKENZIE: Major, were you doing flight training 157 00:08:01,814 --> 00:08:03,142 with fully armed weapons systems? 158 00:08:03,166 --> 00:08:04,382 No, the 20 was loaded 159 00:08:04,451 --> 00:08:06,128 with lead ball training rounds, Colonel. 160 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:08,486 If I'd opened up with explosive incendiary, 161 00:08:08,555 --> 00:08:10,366 that barn would be nothing but ashes. 162 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:12,068 Well, it's still way too much firepower 163 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:13,132 for the task at hand. 164 00:08:13,159 --> 00:08:14,370 Well, I heard over the radio 165 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:15,521 that he had a hostage, 166 00:08:15,545 --> 00:08:17,306 so I hovered low enough to see where she was. 167 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:19,208 Looked like Cale was training the gun on her, 168 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:22,266 so I fired a micro-burst at a shallow angle. 169 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:24,313 I was only gunning for the bad guy, ma'am. 170 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:26,015 I'm sorry to hear the female deputy 171 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:27,254 was hit by falling timber. 172 00:08:27,323 --> 00:08:30,157 I was not looking to participate in any 173 00:08:30,226 --> 00:08:31,287 police action, Colonel. 174 00:08:31,311 --> 00:08:32,426 I just wanted to help. 175 00:08:32,495 --> 00:08:35,396 By opening up with your 20-millimeter guns? 176 00:08:35,465 --> 00:08:38,533 As I stated before, ma'am, I was taking fire. 177 00:08:38,602 --> 00:08:40,496 The guy was a lousy shot, 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,415 Commander, but you throw enough ammo out there 179 00:08:42,439 --> 00:08:43,804 and you're bound to hit something. 180 00:08:43,873 --> 00:08:45,206 Isn't the Cobra's cockpit 181 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:47,325 designed to withstand small arms fire? 182 00:08:47,393 --> 00:08:49,427 Yes, sir, under optimal conditions, 183 00:08:49,495 --> 00:08:52,163 but that doesn't mean an armor-piercing round 184 00:08:52,232 --> 00:08:54,165 couldn't penetrate the windshield 185 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:57,235 or a seam between the Noroc side panels. 186 00:08:57,304 --> 00:08:58,836 We were afraid he'd take us down 187 00:08:58,905 --> 00:09:00,749 right on top of the cops on the ground. 188 00:09:00,773 --> 00:09:02,351 So, you're telling me you sincerely felt 189 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:03,724 your life was in danger? 190 00:09:04,828 --> 00:09:06,227 What else could we do? 191 00:09:06,295 --> 00:09:08,346 We were being fired upon. 192 00:09:08,414 --> 00:09:11,394 I attempted to make radio contact with the sheriff, 193 00:09:11,418 --> 00:09:12,861 but the dispatcher told me that she 194 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:14,925 was under orders not to put me through. 195 00:09:15,939 --> 00:09:17,450 What about your operations duty manager? 196 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:19,685 Did you attempt to contact anyone on base for orders? 197 00:09:19,709 --> 00:09:20,989 Yes, ma'am. 198 00:09:21,044 --> 00:09:22,922 I tried to get direction from my squadron CO 199 00:09:22,946 --> 00:09:24,057 through the duty manager, 200 00:09:24,081 --> 00:09:25,691 but before Colonel Pittman could get to me, 201 00:09:25,715 --> 00:09:26,948 I started taking fire. 202 00:09:27,016 --> 00:09:29,918 How many rounds did Barclay Cale fire at you? 203 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:31,998 I really can't say for sure. 204 00:09:32,022 --> 00:09:33,538 But he did fire on you? 205 00:09:33,607 --> 00:09:34,688 Oh, yes, ma'am. 206 00:09:34,757 --> 00:09:37,642 Major, you know what the Posse Comitatus Act is. 207 00:09:37,711 --> 00:09:38,910 Can you honestly say 208 00:09:38,978 --> 00:09:41,296 that your actions weren't in violation? 209 00:09:41,364 --> 00:09:43,141 I did what had to be done, ma'am. 210 00:09:43,165 --> 00:09:45,767 And no, I didn't believe I was breaking any laws 211 00:09:45,835 --> 00:09:47,067 by defending myself 212 00:09:47,136 --> 00:09:50,154 or trying to save the lives of those two deputies. 213 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:52,051 The inspector general says 214 00:09:52,075 --> 00:09:53,753 you've been a real administrative whiz 215 00:09:53,777 --> 00:09:54,726 over at JAG. 216 00:09:54,794 --> 00:09:55,794 We were hoping you'd want 217 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:57,228 to help us out for a while. 218 00:09:57,297 --> 00:09:59,509 Am I being reassigned to the Pentagon, sir? 219 00:09:59,533 --> 00:10:01,049 Lieutenant Sims, 220 00:10:01,118 --> 00:10:03,568 I'm retired from the Marine Corps. 221 00:10:03,637 --> 00:10:06,237 I'm with Armed Forces Entertainment. 222 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:09,874 So, I'm not in a position to reassign anybody. 223 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:11,359 Then, why...? 224 00:10:11,428 --> 00:10:13,461 Biggest USO show of the year. 225 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:14,996 Baghdad, Christmas Eve. 226 00:10:15,064 --> 00:10:16,497 You ever try to do 227 00:10:16,566 --> 00:10:18,917 personal information forms for celebrities? 228 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:20,796 The women won't give their real birthdates. 229 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:22,582 The men won't give their real heights. 230 00:10:22,606 --> 00:10:23,838 Celebrities, sir? 231 00:10:23,906 --> 00:10:26,858 We need travel documents for 70 people. 232 00:10:26,927 --> 00:10:28,643 Everybody from Garth Brooks 233 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:30,845 to the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. 234 00:10:30,914 --> 00:10:32,659 Would I get to meet Garth Brooks? 235 00:10:32,683 --> 00:10:34,565 I would think so. 236 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,068 Now, there's no extra money in it. 237 00:10:37,136 --> 00:10:38,153 That's okay. 238 00:10:38,221 --> 00:10:40,321 And wrangling rock stars is not for the timid. 239 00:10:40,407 --> 00:10:43,240 Well, neither is working for Admiral Chegwidden, sir. 240 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,075 I would love to do this. 241 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:49,213 You find anything? 242 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:51,327 Colonel Pittman's not the only one 243 00:10:51,351 --> 00:10:53,830 who worships the ground Major Tunney walks on. You? 244 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:56,788 Well, Tunney's former CO doesn't feel the same way. 245 00:10:56,857 --> 00:10:57,989 This is the final report 246 00:10:58,058 --> 00:11:00,091 from a previous Command inquiry. 247 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,310 Two years ago, Major Tunney used his helicopter 248 00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:04,295 to assist the San Diego Police 249 00:11:04,363 --> 00:11:07,298 in apprehending a felon during a police chase. 250 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:09,078 This isn't the first time he's been investigated 251 00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:11,286 for violating the Posse Comitatus Act. 252 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:15,540 Looks like Major Tunney thinks he's the Lone Ranger. 253 00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:25,344 Medical help for McInnis was already en route, 254 00:11:25,368 --> 00:11:26,467 and with backup, 255 00:11:26,536 --> 00:11:28,703 we could've taken care of Barclay Cale, too. 256 00:11:28,772 --> 00:11:30,349 That's our job, not Major Tunney's. 257 00:11:30,373 --> 00:11:31,917 He just wanted something to shoot at. 258 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:33,391 Well, Major Tunney says 259 00:11:33,459 --> 00:11:34,603 Barclay Cale shot first. 260 00:11:34,627 --> 00:11:36,194 There were bullets flying everywhere. 261 00:11:36,262 --> 00:11:37,177 To be honest, 262 00:11:37,246 --> 00:11:39,180 I can't call the man a liar, 263 00:11:39,249 --> 00:11:41,533 but I don't believe that Major Tunney was under fire 264 00:11:41,585 --> 00:11:44,151 at the time he opened fire on Barclay Cale. 265 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:46,599 Now, Major Tunney said he tried to make contact with you 266 00:11:46,623 --> 00:11:48,701 at the scene, but your dispatch wouldn't put him through. 267 00:11:48,725 --> 00:11:51,159 Because I told them not to. Why? 268 00:11:51,228 --> 00:11:53,661 I was busy enough dealing with one trigger-happy yahoo. 269 00:11:53,730 --> 00:11:55,480 The last thing I wanted was another. 270 00:11:56,566 --> 00:11:59,166 Look, I got two deputies in the hospital, 271 00:11:59,235 --> 00:12:00,952 and the one who's still in intensive care 272 00:12:01,021 --> 00:12:03,721 wasn't injured by the man I was trying to arrest. 273 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:05,857 She was hurt when your marine 274 00:12:05,926 --> 00:12:08,326 knocked half a barn down on top of her. 275 00:12:09,412 --> 00:12:11,462 A helicopter gunship is not the right tool 276 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:14,198 to use in a hostage situation, Commander. 277 00:12:14,267 --> 00:12:18,019 This is Arizona, not the damn Gaza Strip. 278 00:12:18,087 --> 00:12:21,072 This the Lord says and proves to you daily 279 00:12:21,140 --> 00:12:24,192 by the example of the community of which you are part. 280 00:12:24,261 --> 00:12:25,904 Find peace in each other, 281 00:12:25,928 --> 00:12:27,362 and pray unto the Lord, 282 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:30,532 for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace. 283 00:12:31,635 --> 00:12:33,246 Well, welcome the newcomers. 284 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:34,785 Now, go with God. 285 00:12:37,624 --> 00:12:39,223 Commander Turner. 286 00:12:39,292 --> 00:12:40,725 This is Commander Turner. 287 00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:42,438 He'll be representing me at my hearing. 288 00:12:42,462 --> 00:12:44,072 My wife. Pleased to meet you, ma'am. 289 00:12:44,096 --> 00:12:45,663 Would you like some coffee, Commander? 290 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:47,648 No, thank you. Commander, 291 00:12:47,717 --> 00:12:49,212 Reverend Ford. Sir. 292 00:12:49,236 --> 00:12:51,952 How much do you know about the Society of Friends? 293 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:54,350 Well, not a lot. My father was a Baptist minister. 294 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:55,600 I was raised in that faith. 295 00:12:55,624 --> 00:12:57,791 You know I can't take an oath in court. 296 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,255 I wasn't aware of that restriction. 297 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:00,578 Well, to swear to tell the truth 298 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:03,831 under oath implies that we lie the rest of the time. 299 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:05,182 Dr. Bentley can only affirm 300 00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:07,685 that he will continue to tell the truth. 301 00:13:07,754 --> 00:13:09,165 I'll explain that at the hearing. 302 00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:10,233 It won't be a problem. 303 00:13:10,257 --> 00:13:11,522 We would appreciate it 304 00:13:11,591 --> 00:13:13,858 if you could make it clear that my husband's actions 305 00:13:13,927 --> 00:13:16,077 are not an indictment of the United States. 306 00:13:16,145 --> 00:13:18,090 He's asking for a separation from the military 307 00:13:18,114 --> 00:13:19,547 during a time of war, 308 00:13:19,615 --> 00:13:22,050 when men and women are dying in Iraq every day. 309 00:13:22,118 --> 00:13:24,429 Now, while I respect his right to ask for a separation, 310 00:13:24,453 --> 00:13:26,548 I can't guarantee it won't damage his reputation. 311 00:13:26,572 --> 00:13:28,784 Well, my personal character isn't as important to me 312 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:30,007 as the Church's good name. 313 00:13:30,076 --> 00:13:32,709 People could misinterpret my intentions. 314 00:13:32,778 --> 00:13:34,612 Commander, Quakers have a long record 315 00:13:34,681 --> 00:13:36,030 of bravery and patriotism. 316 00:13:36,099 --> 00:13:39,183 As abolitionists, we petitioned against slave owners. 317 00:13:39,251 --> 00:13:41,302 And fought to win women the right to vote. 318 00:13:41,371 --> 00:13:42,569 This is nothing new for us. 319 00:13:42,638 --> 00:13:44,439 Our religion has endured 320 00:13:44,507 --> 00:13:46,073 two World Wars and Vietnam. 321 00:13:46,142 --> 00:13:48,676 We have been called cowards and Communists, 322 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,895 spat at in the streets and discriminated against. 323 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:52,813 Despite the vast humanitarian efforts 324 00:13:52,882 --> 00:13:54,848 we've offered our country in times of war. 325 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,818 I can't comment on anything beyond the facts of the case. 326 00:13:57,887 --> 00:14:00,354 My case, Commander, is about more than facts. 327 00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:02,106 It's about faith. 328 00:14:03,193 --> 00:14:04,904 Faith is an intangible, Commander. 329 00:14:04,928 --> 00:14:07,361 I can't prove it in court, and... 330 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:10,331 I'm not even sure if I know what it is anymore. 331 00:14:13,270 --> 00:14:16,220 How can you prove what you can't see? 332 00:14:16,289 --> 00:14:18,889 We mere mortals have to accept the fact 333 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:20,758 we may not always know the answers, Bud. 334 00:14:20,827 --> 00:14:22,287 Well, as the investigating officer, 335 00:14:22,311 --> 00:14:24,273 I don't have to know the answer. 336 00:14:24,297 --> 00:14:27,232 If I can say with 51% conviction 337 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:29,778 that Commander Bentley's beliefs are not sincere, 338 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:32,362 that's the report that I have to submit. 339 00:14:33,156 --> 00:14:35,556 Do you think you resent Commander Bentley 340 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:37,545 because of what's happened to you? 341 00:14:38,394 --> 00:14:40,561 When I was called to duty in a combat zone, 342 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:42,012 I went without question. 343 00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:43,998 And paid dearly for it. 344 00:14:44,067 --> 00:14:46,133 Bud, you fought to stay in the navy 345 00:14:46,202 --> 00:14:48,386 because you believed that was the right thing to do, 346 00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:50,471 and apparently, Commander Bentley 347 00:14:50,539 --> 00:14:51,839 believes something different. 348 00:14:54,077 --> 00:14:56,221 Don't you just think it's a little bit strange 349 00:14:56,245 --> 00:14:59,180 that, of all of the churches in all of the world, 350 00:14:59,248 --> 00:15:02,250 he decides to join one that will give him CO status? 351 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:05,203 Maybe... 352 00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:07,372 but do I think it's okay to punish a man 353 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,376 who may be guilty of nothing more than religious conviction? 354 00:15:11,444 --> 00:15:12,444 No. 355 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,728 I don't. 356 00:15:15,849 --> 00:15:17,048 Ooh, I got to go. 357 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:19,533 Now? Why? 358 00:15:19,602 --> 00:15:21,080 I have to make travel arrangements 359 00:15:21,104 --> 00:15:23,199 for a diva who won't travel without her toy poodle, 360 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:25,722 and I have to explain to a rapper 361 00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:28,275 why he can't wear his ski cap in his passport photos. 362 00:15:32,549 --> 00:15:33,976 Two incidents in two years 363 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,094 is a little more than coincidental, Major. 364 00:15:36,118 --> 00:15:38,385 Tell us about what happened two years ago. 365 00:15:38,454 --> 00:15:40,599 Well, I was stationed at Camp Pendleton. 366 00:15:40,623 --> 00:15:42,890 San Diego Police were chasing a guy doing 90 367 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:44,770 up the wrong side of a divided highway, 368 00:15:44,794 --> 00:15:46,754 so I went down low in front of him. 369 00:15:46,796 --> 00:15:48,540 I figured I'd scare him into stopping. 370 00:15:48,564 --> 00:15:50,375 Instead, he ran himself off the road. 371 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:52,566 Yeah, and crashed into a tree in someone's backyard 372 00:15:52,635 --> 00:15:54,501 where, luckily, kids weren't playing. 373 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:56,481 Well, we can't hold a man responsible 374 00:15:56,505 --> 00:15:58,072 for what didn't happen, Colonel. 375 00:15:58,141 --> 00:16:00,701 In both cases, I took action that saved lives. 376 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:04,428 If that's illegal, lock me up. 377 00:16:07,434 --> 00:16:08,728 I'm just not sure 378 00:16:08,752 --> 00:16:10,579 I'm the right man for the job, Admiral. 379 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:13,370 So, you can't find any common ground 380 00:16:13,439 --> 00:16:14,538 with Commander Bentley? 381 00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:16,969 I don't think so, sir. 382 00:16:16,993 --> 00:16:18,259 Even though you had the benefit 383 00:16:18,328 --> 00:16:19,760 of being raised by a minister? 384 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:21,056 Sir, I look at my father 385 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,713 and I see his faith 386 00:16:22,782 --> 00:16:24,532 for better or worse. 387 00:16:24,601 --> 00:16:26,841 I don't see that when I look at Commander Bentley. 388 00:16:28,371 --> 00:16:31,004 Does your father know you're turning your back on religion? 389 00:16:34,961 --> 00:16:36,939 I know the question's a little out of line, 390 00:16:36,963 --> 00:16:38,663 but I'm going to ask it anyway. 391 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:42,900 Respectfully, sir, I will represent the commander 392 00:16:42,968 --> 00:16:44,402 to the best of my abilities, 393 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:46,114 but I can't say in any good conscience 394 00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,521 that I respect his actions. 395 00:16:49,075 --> 00:16:50,641 Well... 396 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:53,177 good lawyering has nothing to do with feelings. 397 00:16:53,245 --> 00:16:54,511 Dismissed. 398 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:55,860 Aye, aye, sir. 399 00:16:56,950 --> 00:16:59,333 Sturgis? 400 00:16:59,402 --> 00:17:01,152 You talk to your father lately? 401 00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:04,683 MacKENZIE: Posse Comitatus 402 00:17:04,707 --> 00:17:07,052 prohibits the military from participating in any effort 403 00:17:07,076 --> 00:17:09,343 to execute or enforce the law on US soil. 404 00:17:09,411 --> 00:17:11,724 Technically. The military, however, 405 00:17:11,748 --> 00:17:14,059 can be used in certain specific circumstances: 406 00:17:14,083 --> 00:17:16,683 i.e. the army lended advisors and a tank 407 00:17:16,753 --> 00:17:17,896 during the Waco standoff. 408 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,686 Yeah, and look how well that turned out. 409 00:17:19,756 --> 00:17:22,067 Well, the SEAL Team Six and Delta Force provided 410 00:17:22,091 --> 00:17:23,902 security and surveillance during the Olympics. 411 00:17:23,926 --> 00:17:26,486 They also provided advisers to the FBI and local police 412 00:17:26,528 --> 00:17:28,073 during the hunt for the DC sniper. 413 00:17:28,097 --> 00:17:29,029 Says who? 414 00:17:29,098 --> 00:17:30,514 I have my sources. 415 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,366 Right, I forgot. 416 00:17:32,435 --> 00:17:33,851 You went to the dark side. 417 00:17:34,938 --> 00:17:36,415 The military can be used in cases 418 00:17:36,439 --> 00:17:38,550 involving biological, chemical or nuclear weapons. 419 00:17:38,574 --> 00:17:40,541 Only with the approval of the attorney general, 420 00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:43,243 and Barclay Cale didn't have any nukes parked in his barn. 421 00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:45,896 The Marine Corps was brought in to quell the L.A. riots. 422 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:47,476 Military can be used to suppress 423 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:49,110 insurrection against the government. 424 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:50,312 Now, the hostage standoff began 425 00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:52,214 when Mr. Cale refused to pay his income tax. 426 00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:53,816 One could argue this was at least 427 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,084 the beginning of an insurrection. 428 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:56,824 Wrong. Barclay Cale wasn't trying 429 00:17:56,892 --> 00:17:58,159 to overthrow the government. 430 00:17:58,228 --> 00:17:59,893 He was a man with nothing to lose, 431 00:17:59,962 --> 00:18:01,207 just trying to keep some dignity. 432 00:18:01,231 --> 00:18:02,997 He went about it the wrong way. 433 00:18:03,065 --> 00:18:05,032 You really love this, don't you? 434 00:18:05,101 --> 00:18:06,501 What, arguing with you? 435 00:18:06,569 --> 00:18:08,702 Yeah. The investigations, the interviews, 436 00:18:08,771 --> 00:18:10,671 and yes, our arguments. 437 00:18:10,739 --> 00:18:13,340 I'm beginning to understand why you came back. 438 00:18:13,409 --> 00:18:16,443 You need JAG just as much as JAG needs you. 439 00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:18,029 What about you? 440 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:19,813 You glad to have me back? 441 00:18:23,786 --> 00:18:25,686 Lieutenant Colonel Mackenzie. 442 00:18:26,755 --> 00:18:29,190 Yes, absolutely. Thank you. 443 00:18:30,293 --> 00:18:32,459 That was the Yuma County Hospital. 444 00:18:32,528 --> 00:18:35,462 Deputy Linda Foyo is out of intensive care. 445 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,761 What happened before you were injured in the shootout? 446 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:41,763 Did Barclay Cale fire on the helicopter? 447 00:18:41,787 --> 00:18:43,554 He was firing, but he had stopped 448 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:46,057 by the time the chopper fired at us. 449 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:50,494 Look, Barclay Cale was a sad, stubborn old man 450 00:18:50,563 --> 00:18:52,374 who deserved to do life in prison, 451 00:18:52,398 --> 00:18:54,543 but if there's one thing he knew, it was weapons. 452 00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:55,833 When that helo showed up, 453 00:18:55,901 --> 00:18:57,934 he knew he couldn't shoot his way out. 454 00:18:58,003 --> 00:18:59,653 So you... you're telling us 455 00:18:59,722 --> 00:19:03,023 that the marine helicopter's presence was helpful? 456 00:19:03,092 --> 00:19:04,575 Not in the way that you mean. 457 00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:07,845 I mean, it-it helped me talk Barclay into giving himself up, 458 00:19:07,913 --> 00:19:11,098 which he was about to do before that pilot opened fire. 459 00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:13,717 You're sure he was going to give himself up? 460 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:15,152 Colonel... 461 00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:17,021 Barclay Cale was a vet. 462 00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:19,190 Caught the tail end of Vietnam. 463 00:19:19,258 --> 00:19:21,792 He knew better than to take on a Cobra. 464 00:19:24,847 --> 00:19:26,024 Why am I not surprised? 465 00:19:26,048 --> 00:19:28,683 Hell, if... the two of you agreed, 466 00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:30,301 that would be a surprise. 467 00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:32,898 Admiral, given the highly public nature of the incident, 468 00:19:32,922 --> 00:19:35,100 I think not going forward with an Article 32 469 00:19:35,124 --> 00:19:37,375 would invite accusations of a cover-up. 470 00:19:37,443 --> 00:19:39,043 So you're recommending 471 00:19:39,111 --> 00:19:42,046 that we proceed to head off conspiracy theorists? 472 00:19:42,114 --> 00:19:43,364 No, sir. 473 00:19:43,433 --> 00:19:45,553 I believe Major Tunney is in clear violation 474 00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:47,217 of the Posse Comitatus Act, 475 00:19:47,286 --> 00:19:49,553 and therefore Article 92 of the UCMJ: 476 00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:52,506 failure to obey a direct order or regulation. 477 00:19:52,575 --> 00:19:53,841 Admiral, Major Tunney 478 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:56,376 is an experienced and dedicated marine pilot 479 00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:59,480 who was taking fire and did what he felt he had to, to save 480 00:19:59,548 --> 00:20:01,549 the numerous lives of law enforcement agents 481 00:20:01,617 --> 00:20:03,533 on the ground. 482 00:20:03,602 --> 00:20:06,721 Well, if the convening authority sends this to an Article 32, 483 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:09,690 we know who will prosecute and who will defend. 484 00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:10,769 It would seem so, sir. 485 00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:12,225 Yes, sir. 486 00:20:12,295 --> 00:20:15,729 Uh, Admiral, the marine air base is off limits to the public, 487 00:20:15,798 --> 00:20:17,609 so, in the interest of transparency, 488 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:22,019 the county has volunteered its library as a hearing site. 489 00:20:22,088 --> 00:20:25,239 Military history section, no doubt. 490 00:20:25,308 --> 00:20:26,907 The outcome of this case 491 00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:30,244 could affect a lot more than one major's freedom. 492 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,161 I couldn't have been more clear, Colonel. 493 00:20:36,185 --> 00:20:37,935 My dispatcher told Major Tunney 494 00:20:38,003 --> 00:20:40,438 we didn't want or need any help from the marines, 495 00:20:40,506 --> 00:20:42,940 especially not in the form of a Super Cobra 496 00:20:43,008 --> 00:20:44,542 designed for taking out tanks. 497 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:46,110 Even though you were facing a gunman 498 00:20:46,178 --> 00:20:47,178 whose automatic weapon 499 00:20:47,213 --> 00:20:49,046 was loaded with SS-109 rounds? 500 00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:51,882 Colonel, half the street gangs in Yuma have automatic weapons. 501 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:54,719 I'm sure more than a few are loaded with AP rounds. 502 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:57,705 Should I call the marines every time we raid a drug house? 503 00:20:57,773 --> 00:20:58,984 Your Honor, I'd like that testimony 504 00:20:59,008 --> 00:21:00,419 stricken from the record, unless I'm going 505 00:21:00,443 --> 00:21:01,853 to be allowed to answer that question. 506 00:21:01,877 --> 00:21:02,826 So ordered. 507 00:21:02,895 --> 00:21:05,896 Sir, would you please refrain 508 00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:07,943 from answering a question with a question? 509 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,111 Yes, Your Honor. 510 00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:10,300 MacKENZIE: Sheriff, 511 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:11,847 besides the fact that it's illegal, 512 00:21:11,871 --> 00:21:13,682 was there any other reason that you refused 513 00:21:13,706 --> 00:21:15,467 Major Tunney's offer of assistance? 514 00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,057 Barclay Cale was one of us. 515 00:21:17,126 --> 00:21:18,726 I'd known the man for 20 years, 516 00:21:18,794 --> 00:21:21,106 and although he'd been shooting, he was still talking. 517 00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:23,108 A peaceful surrender was still on the table... 518 00:21:23,132 --> 00:21:24,180 until Major Tunney 519 00:21:24,249 --> 00:21:25,694 unleashed his cannon rounds. 520 00:21:25,718 --> 00:21:28,852 The marines are simply not trained or equipped 521 00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:30,841 to handle civilian law enforcement. 522 00:21:30,889 --> 00:21:32,522 On what do you base that? 523 00:21:32,591 --> 00:21:34,470 Four years I spent in the Marine Corps, 524 00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:35,926 and the 15 years I've spent 525 00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:38,078 in the Yuma County Sheriff's Department. 526 00:21:38,146 --> 00:21:39,696 Nothing further, 527 00:21:39,765 --> 00:21:41,432 Your Honor. 528 00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:55,207 Sheriff, when you and your deputies 529 00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,242 arrived at the Cale ranch to arrest Barclay Cale, 530 00:21:57,266 --> 00:21:59,433 were any of your deputies wearing body armor? 531 00:21:59,501 --> 00:22:01,080 They were all wearing vests, 532 00:22:01,104 --> 00:22:02,714 but when Deputy McInnis went down, 533 00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:05,038 we realized Cale was using SS-109 rounds. 534 00:22:05,108 --> 00:22:06,335 Well, what about the squad cars 535 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,969 you arrived in? Were any of these armored 536 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:10,194 or ballistically reinforced to any degree? 537 00:22:10,246 --> 00:22:12,312 No. So then despite your extensive 538 00:22:12,381 --> 00:22:13,531 law enforcement training, 539 00:22:13,583 --> 00:22:16,416 the instant Barclay Cale chose fight over flight, 540 00:22:16,485 --> 00:22:18,097 you and your men became helpless? 541 00:22:18,121 --> 00:22:20,654 We didn't choose to shoot it out like it's the OK Corral, 542 00:22:20,723 --> 00:22:22,634 but that doesn't mean we were helpless. 543 00:22:22,658 --> 00:22:24,057 We were waiting for backup. 544 00:22:24,127 --> 00:22:25,971 Well, I assume it wasn't part of your plan 545 00:22:25,995 --> 00:22:28,462 to have one deputy shot and another taken hostage? 546 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:30,258 Objection. Argumentative and irrelevant. 547 00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:31,360 Your Honor, 548 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:32,549 the witness has testified 549 00:22:32,618 --> 00:22:34,329 that my client's actions were unnecessary, 550 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:37,104 and I'm trying to elicit testimony to the contrary. 551 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:38,755 Overruled. 552 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:41,208 But make your point, counselor, and move on. 553 00:22:42,879 --> 00:22:45,179 Sheriff Driskell... 554 00:22:45,248 --> 00:22:46,913 things weren't going well. 555 00:22:46,983 --> 00:22:49,549 You were sitting, waiting for backup. 556 00:22:50,653 --> 00:22:52,586 Must have been feeling helpless. 557 00:22:52,655 --> 00:22:55,405 Not enough to call in the marines. 558 00:22:56,892 --> 00:22:58,391 That'll be all, Your Honor. 559 00:23:23,752 --> 00:23:25,669 Hey, Pop. 560 00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:29,373 Yeah, it's good to see you, son. 561 00:23:29,442 --> 00:23:30,722 Yeah. 562 00:23:30,777 --> 00:23:32,576 Thanks for coming by. 563 00:23:32,645 --> 00:23:34,444 Why don't you have a seat. 564 00:23:35,782 --> 00:23:37,347 Thank you. 565 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:40,651 Sorry it's been so long since I called you. 566 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,020 Yeah, well, I, uh... 567 00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:44,988 read the file that you faxed me 568 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:48,426 on the conscientious objector case. 569 00:23:48,494 --> 00:23:50,527 Do you have a gut feeling about him? 570 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,130 I'm just finding it hard to believe 571 00:23:53,199 --> 00:23:55,332 that a sudden religious epiphany 572 00:23:55,401 --> 00:23:57,413 would cause someone to change his whole life. 573 00:23:57,437 --> 00:24:00,203 Well, I've seen it happen before, son. 574 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,389 You have, too, when you were a boy. 575 00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:04,486 You know I spent hours in church listening 576 00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:08,111 to the testimony of those "saved souls," Dad, but... 577 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,230 are their lives really changed? 578 00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:12,377 Or do-do they just fall back into the same rut, 579 00:24:12,401 --> 00:24:15,135 the futility of trying 580 00:24:15,204 --> 00:24:17,204 to hold onto something in this world? 581 00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:20,419 Well, I don't think it's this world 582 00:24:20,443 --> 00:24:21,723 that they're worried about, son. 583 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:24,662 So, why'd you call me? 584 00:24:24,714 --> 00:24:25,979 To help me win the case. 585 00:24:26,048 --> 00:24:28,699 You've never needed my help before. 586 00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:31,230 Chaplain? 587 00:24:31,254 --> 00:24:33,587 Oh, I was on my way to see you, Admiral. 588 00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:36,322 Keep your seat. Good to see you. 589 00:24:36,392 --> 00:24:38,492 Any, uh, words of wisdom for me? 590 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,928 Absolutely, sir. 591 00:24:40,997 --> 00:24:42,062 Treat my son well, 592 00:24:42,131 --> 00:24:44,398 and you will be rewarded in heaven. 593 00:24:44,466 --> 00:24:46,000 Well, I'll remember that 594 00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:47,629 the next time the commander shows 595 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,586 his stubborn streak. 596 00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:51,855 You need me to help you straighten him out some? 597 00:24:53,008 --> 00:24:54,970 Well, I think he's straight enough already. 598 00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:57,114 Should I leave so you two can talk about me? 599 00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,365 If you don't mind. 600 00:25:03,819 --> 00:25:05,552 Hi, this is Lieutenant Sims. 601 00:25:05,621 --> 00:25:07,721 I'm working with the USO. 602 00:25:07,789 --> 00:25:09,123 Hi, hi. 603 00:25:09,191 --> 00:25:11,136 I'm compiling the personal information forms 604 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,393 for the Baghdad tour. 605 00:25:15,564 --> 00:25:18,765 No, sir, you may not bring your 30-aught-six. 606 00:25:18,834 --> 00:25:20,878 If you feel the need to fight off the fedayeen, 607 00:25:20,902 --> 00:25:23,270 I'm sure the Marine Corps will have your back. 608 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:25,200 Iceberg is not the name your parents gave you, 609 00:25:25,224 --> 00:25:29,226 and I will not put that on your passport application, young man. 610 00:25:29,294 --> 00:25:31,127 Isaac. 611 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,363 Thank you. 612 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,832 Schulberg, okay. 613 00:25:34,901 --> 00:25:37,401 No, ma'am, the MREs do not include 614 00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:40,437 hydroponically grown organic vegetables. 615 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:44,241 Uh, maybe the, uh, Baghdad Hilton has a salad bar. 616 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,378 Hello? 617 00:25:47,446 --> 00:25:49,546 This hearing is to determine the status 618 00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:52,682 of Lieutenant Commander Justin Bentley. 619 00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:54,184 Commander, on what grounds 620 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,093 do you seek separation from the Naval Reserves? 621 00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:59,924 On grounds of conscientious objection to military service. 622 00:25:59,992 --> 00:26:02,092 And did your counsel explain to you that you 623 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,661 bear the burden of proof in this proceeding? 624 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:06,830 Yes. 625 00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:08,032 And that your beliefs 626 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,735 must be "honest, sincere and deeply held?" 627 00:26:11,804 --> 00:26:13,170 Yes. 628 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:16,873 All right, Commander. We can proceed. 629 00:26:16,943 --> 00:26:17,874 Does your client wish 630 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:20,144 to make a statement for the record? 631 00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:21,456 Not at this time, Lieutenant. 632 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,613 Instead, I'd like to call an expert witness. 633 00:26:23,682 --> 00:26:27,851 I served as a navy chaplain in both Korea and Vietnam. 634 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,063 Did you come in contact 635 00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,832 with conscientious objectors, Chaplain Turner? 636 00:26:30,856 --> 00:26:31,856 Yes. 637 00:26:31,891 --> 00:26:33,290 And who were these men? 638 00:26:33,358 --> 00:26:36,626 Sailors and, uh, marines who had become repulsed 639 00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:38,779 at the undeniable horror of war. 640 00:26:38,847 --> 00:26:40,246 They'd become convinced 641 00:26:40,315 --> 00:26:42,316 that no objective was worth the cost, 642 00:26:42,385 --> 00:26:45,018 so many of them sought out their chaplain. 643 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:46,682 What would you do for them, Chaplain? 644 00:26:46,706 --> 00:26:49,673 If they were just scared, I would refer them for 645 00:26:49,725 --> 00:26:51,508 psychological help. 646 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,660 But if I found they were truly 647 00:26:53,728 --> 00:26:55,662 spiritually troubled, 648 00:26:55,731 --> 00:26:58,665 I attempted to have them reassigned. 649 00:26:58,734 --> 00:27:00,044 Have you spoken to Commander Bentley 650 00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:02,168 about his beliefs? At length. 651 00:27:02,238 --> 00:27:05,239 And in your view, is he truly spiritually troubled? 652 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:09,693 Commander Bentley has immersed himself in the Quaker way 653 00:27:09,745 --> 00:27:11,878 ever since his marriage last year. 654 00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:13,864 He attends a meeting once a week 655 00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:17,567 and has studied the Peace Testimony extensively. 656 00:27:17,637 --> 00:27:20,437 I am convinced that his pacifism 657 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:21,888 and his religious conversion 658 00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:23,257 are sincere. 659 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,522 How do people have these sudden awakenings, Chaplain? 660 00:27:27,546 --> 00:27:29,562 Do they hear the voice of God? 661 00:27:32,084 --> 00:27:35,252 People have a variety of experiences. 662 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,320 God comes to some of us in our dreams, 663 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,173 or in the voice of a small child. 664 00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,609 In the things we see every day, 665 00:27:42,677 --> 00:27:44,028 the people we meet, 666 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,713 decisions we have to make. 667 00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:50,925 Thank you, Chaplain. 668 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,753 You just have to be open to Him, Commander. 669 00:27:57,209 --> 00:27:58,441 Again, thank you, Chaplain. 670 00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,489 Chaplain Turner, it appears 671 00:28:00,513 --> 00:28:02,646 to me that Commander Bentley's 672 00:28:02,715 --> 00:28:04,881 spiritual searching took place 673 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:08,218 after it was clear that we might be going to war in Iraq. 674 00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:11,604 This war, like all wars, 675 00:28:11,673 --> 00:28:14,558 has made a lot of us do some soul-searching, Lieutenant. 676 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:16,810 Or maybe he's been attending meetings 677 00:28:16,878 --> 00:28:19,329 and studying Peace Testimony as a strategy 678 00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:22,432 to build up his case. 679 00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:24,429 I don't believe that's the situation. 680 00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:26,886 Do you believe it's possible to look into a man's heart? 681 00:28:26,956 --> 00:28:28,655 Not with surgical precision, 682 00:28:28,723 --> 00:28:33,093 but I'd like to think that I'm better at it than most. 683 00:28:33,162 --> 00:28:35,762 Well, Chaplain, I have no doubt 684 00:28:35,831 --> 00:28:37,831 that Commander Bentley hates war, 685 00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:39,928 but I would imagine that you do, too. 686 00:28:39,952 --> 00:28:41,368 And yet, 687 00:28:41,436 --> 00:28:43,736 you've been able to serve your country in uniform 688 00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:45,505 for nearly half a century. 689 00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:48,158 I found honor in providing solace 690 00:28:48,227 --> 00:28:49,692 to those who fought, Lieutenant. 691 00:28:49,762 --> 00:28:51,928 And comfort to the wounded 692 00:28:51,981 --> 00:28:53,613 and dying. 693 00:28:55,184 --> 00:28:56,694 Deputy Foyo, do you believe 694 00:28:56,718 --> 00:28:59,786 that Major Tunney saved your life by killing Barclay Cale? 695 00:28:59,854 --> 00:29:01,354 I do not. 696 00:29:01,423 --> 00:29:03,234 I was making headway with Barclay. 697 00:29:03,258 --> 00:29:05,336 The guy went to high school with my father. 698 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,372 I had talked him into dropping the gun. 699 00:29:07,396 --> 00:29:08,479 Thank you. 700 00:29:08,531 --> 00:29:09,846 Nothing further. 701 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:10,963 Commander? 702 00:29:13,435 --> 00:29:14,902 Deputy Foyo. 703 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,638 Now, didn't Barclay Cale take your radio 704 00:29:17,706 --> 00:29:19,450 to prevent you from communicating 705 00:29:19,474 --> 00:29:20,594 with the other officers? 706 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:22,025 Yes. 707 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,693 Well, then there's no way that anybody 708 00:29:23,763 --> 00:29:26,429 but you would know that Barclay Cale 709 00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:28,965 was ready to give himself up and surrender his weapon, 710 00:29:29,018 --> 00:29:30,317 is there? 711 00:29:30,386 --> 00:29:31,684 You weren't there, Commander. 712 00:29:31,753 --> 00:29:33,186 This man knew me. 713 00:29:33,272 --> 00:29:35,350 Well, that didn't prevent him from taking you hostage, 714 00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:36,718 restraining you with your own handcuffs 715 00:29:36,742 --> 00:29:38,822 and, uh, holding you at gunpoint, did it? 716 00:29:40,179 --> 00:29:41,294 No. 717 00:29:42,597 --> 00:29:44,108 Doesn't sound to me like the Barclay Cale 718 00:29:44,132 --> 00:29:45,298 you were in the barn with 719 00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:47,262 is the same Barclay Cale you grew up knowing, 720 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,685 Deputy. 721 00:29:48,753 --> 00:29:50,253 Now, isn't it possible... 722 00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:52,522 in all the confusion... 723 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:55,141 Wind from the rotor blades, the noise that... 724 00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:57,710 you're not exactly sure 725 00:29:57,779 --> 00:30:00,630 who Barclay Cale was shooting at? 726 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:06,064 Barclay, 727 00:30:06,088 --> 00:30:08,655 please don't do this. 728 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:10,156 None of us wants to hurt you. 729 00:30:10,226 --> 00:30:12,287 Just come out with me. 730 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,171 Come out with me, and they won't shoot you. 731 00:30:14,195 --> 00:30:15,295 You got to believe me. 732 00:30:15,364 --> 00:30:17,397 I didn't want this to happen. 733 00:30:19,435 --> 00:30:20,600 Barclay, stop it. 734 00:30:20,669 --> 00:30:23,369 You're too smart to want to go out like this. 735 00:30:23,439 --> 00:30:25,338 Look around you. 736 00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:28,775 The bank owns everything you see. 737 00:30:28,844 --> 00:30:32,044 I can't afford a lawyer to do the things the right way. 738 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,855 Did you call the black chopper? 739 00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:44,241 No, no, Barclay, I swear. 740 00:30:47,546 --> 00:30:49,695 Barclay, stop it! 741 00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:52,699 They'll kill us both! I know! 742 00:30:52,768 --> 00:30:54,701 You don't want to kill me. 743 00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:57,437 You owe my father at least that much. 744 00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:05,979 I'm so damn sorry, Linda. 745 00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:16,006 You couldn't really be sure who Barclay Cale 746 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:19,376 was firing at, could you, Deputy Foyo? 747 00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:22,662 I don't believe Barclay was shooting at the chopper. 748 00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:26,349 But, I guess I see 749 00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:28,602 how Major Tunney could have thought so. 750 00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:38,662 Hey. Hey. 751 00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:41,414 Where you been? I just had 752 00:31:41,483 --> 00:31:42,516 a long conversation 753 00:31:42,584 --> 00:31:44,212 with the base public affairs office. 754 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:46,147 Well, don't set my interview up with Mike Wallace 755 00:31:46,171 --> 00:31:47,515 until I've actually won. Very funny. 756 00:31:47,539 --> 00:31:48,655 According to the PAO, 757 00:31:48,724 --> 00:31:51,924 you're not the one out looking for fame. 758 00:31:51,994 --> 00:31:53,093 What's this? 759 00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:54,978 Your client's memoirs. 760 00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:56,095 His publisher just 761 00:31:56,165 --> 00:31:57,964 dropped them off at the public affairs office 762 00:31:58,033 --> 00:31:58,982 as a courtesy. 763 00:31:59,034 --> 00:32:00,433 Check out the title. 764 00:32:00,502 --> 00:32:02,068 The Nick of Time. 765 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:03,287 Goes to motive, Counselor. 766 00:32:03,339 --> 00:32:04,571 It-it looks like Major Tunney 767 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,250 may have had more of a personal interest 768 00:32:06,274 --> 00:32:08,442 in getting involved than he's let on. 769 00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:10,888 What's a little posse comitatus when you can be number one 770 00:32:10,912 --> 00:32:13,130 on the New York Times' best seller list? 771 00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:26,370 My whole life changed when I met Julia. 772 00:32:26,394 --> 00:32:29,313 The confusion I had about the military went away. 773 00:32:29,381 --> 00:32:31,348 I met people who thought as I did. 774 00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:33,761 You began attending your wife's church. 775 00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:35,785 Yes. The Quaker belief system 776 00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:38,288 spoke to how I want to live my life. 777 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,168 Can you be more specific? 778 00:32:40,192 --> 00:32:42,859 We believe every human life is precious, 779 00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:45,662 and that God intends for us to live in peace. 780 00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:48,098 You know, some might say that's a bit idealistic. 781 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:49,749 How would you answer them? 782 00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:53,953 Without ideals... 783 00:32:54,022 --> 00:32:55,338 what are we? 784 00:32:55,406 --> 00:32:56,756 Thank you, Commander. 785 00:32:56,825 --> 00:32:57,905 Commander Bentley, 786 00:32:57,959 --> 00:33:01,211 would you ever consider serving your country 787 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:02,457 in a noncombative way? 788 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:03,692 If you're called up after all, 789 00:33:03,716 --> 00:33:06,399 it would be to save lives, not to take them. 790 00:33:06,468 --> 00:33:08,801 I can't in good conscience aid the war effort, 791 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:10,670 even indirectly. 792 00:33:10,739 --> 00:33:12,617 Oh, is that part of your Quaker beliefs? 793 00:33:12,641 --> 00:33:14,357 Quakers are divided on this, Lieutenant, 794 00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:16,125 but I would have trouble being involved 795 00:33:16,195 --> 00:33:17,911 with anything connected to the military. 796 00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:19,640 Well, you didn't view the military that way 797 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:21,904 when you took navy money to pay for your tuition. 798 00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,850 That was before my doubts began 799 00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,052 and certainly long before my conversion. 800 00:33:26,121 --> 00:33:27,637 And after your conversion, 801 00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:29,923 did you attend any, uh, war demonstrations? 802 00:33:29,992 --> 00:33:30,940 No, Lieutenant. 803 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,053 Did you write any articles 804 00:33:32,077 --> 00:33:33,354 expressing your antiwar views? 805 00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:34,877 I would feel uncomfortable doing that 806 00:33:34,946 --> 00:33:36,262 while I'm still in the Reserves. 807 00:33:36,331 --> 00:33:38,159 Yeah, I'm trying to determine 808 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,395 if you've ever actually done anything 809 00:33:40,419 --> 00:33:42,263 to convince me that you're a committed pacifist. 810 00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,386 What I've done, Lieutenant, 811 00:33:43,454 --> 00:33:46,439 is to seek separation from the Naval Reserves. 812 00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:48,591 I'm not impressed, Commander. 813 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:51,561 I'm sure that life is sweeter in the Virginia suburbs 814 00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:53,930 than it is in an Iraqi field hospital. 815 00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:55,849 Lieutenant, that's unnecessary. 816 00:33:55,917 --> 00:33:58,284 Lieutenant Roberts... 817 00:33:58,353 --> 00:34:00,537 I want to serve God. 818 00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:02,906 Nothing else matters. 819 00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:06,805 I wrote my memoirs 820 00:34:06,829 --> 00:34:09,946 because I think I've led a pretty interesting life. 821 00:34:10,015 --> 00:34:11,692 You sure it's not the other way around? 822 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:13,528 You think I'd risk my career, 823 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:15,318 my freedom and my reputation 824 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:16,848 just so I could sell more books? 825 00:34:16,872 --> 00:34:18,833 Maybe you didn't think your reputation would suffer. 826 00:34:18,857 --> 00:34:20,368 It certainly didn't after the first time 827 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:21,469 you did something like this. 828 00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:22,425 Objection. 829 00:34:22,493 --> 00:34:23,576 Sustained. 830 00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:25,611 Major Tunney, did you receive 831 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,908 authorization from your senior 832 00:34:26,932 --> 00:34:29,049 before you opened fire on Barclay Cale? 833 00:34:29,117 --> 00:34:31,100 No, but... And were you ever 834 00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:33,131 specifically asked by civilian deputies on the scene 835 00:34:33,155 --> 00:34:35,305 to provide any assistance whatsoever? 836 00:34:35,374 --> 00:34:37,073 No, but again... Were you aware 837 00:34:37,142 --> 00:34:39,792 of the regulations prohibiting personnel in the US Armed Forces 838 00:34:39,861 --> 00:34:42,646 from participating in civilian law enforcement action 839 00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:44,692 on US soil without authorization 840 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,916 from the highest level of the chain of command? 841 00:34:47,469 --> 00:34:49,135 Yes, ma'am. 842 00:34:49,204 --> 00:34:50,353 And finally, Major, 843 00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:51,999 at the time you made the decision 844 00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:54,183 to use your helicopter's 20-millimeter cannon 845 00:34:54,242 --> 00:34:55,942 to take out Barclay Cale, 846 00:34:56,011 --> 00:34:57,977 was there any doubt in your mind 847 00:34:58,046 --> 00:35:01,081 that you were indeed hovering over US territory? 848 00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:03,382 No, ma'am. 849 00:35:03,451 --> 00:35:05,619 I knew exactly where I was. 850 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,239 I have nothing further, Your Honor. 851 00:35:11,176 --> 00:35:13,209 Major Tunney, you insisted 852 00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:15,444 on taking the stand today in your own defense. 853 00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:16,596 Why? 854 00:35:16,664 --> 00:35:17,897 I wanted to make it clear 855 00:35:17,965 --> 00:35:20,500 I'm not ashamed of what I've done, any of it. 856 00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:23,503 I gave that manuscript to the PAO as a courtesy. 857 00:35:23,572 --> 00:35:24,704 Does that sound to you 858 00:35:24,772 --> 00:35:26,534 like I thought I was doing anything wrong? 859 00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:28,507 Did you attempt to seek approval 860 00:35:28,577 --> 00:35:30,154 from your immediate chain of command 861 00:35:30,178 --> 00:35:32,023 before taking action in this incident? 862 00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:33,047 Yes, sir. 863 00:35:33,081 --> 00:35:34,180 Did you ever receive 864 00:35:34,249 --> 00:35:35,877 direct instructions from Sheriff Driskell 865 00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:37,945 to leave the scene and stay out of the matter? 866 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,002 No, Commander. 867 00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:40,070 So, acting 868 00:35:40,104 --> 00:35:42,083 upon what you could see on the ground, 869 00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:44,374 you decided to take action in this incident, 870 00:35:44,443 --> 00:35:46,960 knowing full well what the consequences might be? 871 00:35:47,028 --> 00:35:48,706 Yes, sir. Have you ever done 872 00:35:48,730 --> 00:35:51,164 anything like this before, Major? 873 00:35:51,233 --> 00:35:52,513 Yes, sir. 874 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:55,251 In Desert Storm, I was the first 875 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,387 on the scene of a downed F-14. 876 00:35:57,455 --> 00:35:58,738 Now, the Super Cobra only had 877 00:35:58,807 --> 00:36:00,134 seats for the two pilots, 878 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:02,303 but I could see the Iraqis approaching. 879 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:04,527 So, I loaded the injured pilot into my seat, 880 00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:06,863 and I rode back to base on a starboard skid 881 00:36:06,931 --> 00:36:08,876 while my copilot manned the controls. 882 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:10,928 Could you have received command approval 883 00:36:10,952 --> 00:36:12,268 for an action like this? 884 00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:14,770 No, sir. 885 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,674 But when I got back to base, saved that pilot's life, 886 00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:20,455 only thing that my commanders talked about 887 00:36:20,479 --> 00:36:22,256 was what awards I should be recommended for. 888 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,840 And do you believe you should be awarded 889 00:36:23,898 --> 00:36:26,733 a medal for shooting Barclay Cale, Major? 890 00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:29,919 I didn't shoot that man to win an award, sir. 891 00:36:29,972 --> 00:36:32,672 Or to have something to write about. 892 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:35,541 I shot him because I believed it was the only way 893 00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,638 I could prevent him from killing people. 894 00:36:37,662 --> 00:36:38,995 Thank you, Major. 895 00:36:39,064 --> 00:36:40,413 Nothing further. 896 00:36:40,482 --> 00:36:42,382 I guess I owe you 897 00:36:42,451 --> 00:36:43,816 an apology, Dad. 898 00:36:43,885 --> 00:36:46,453 I, uh... I didn't mean for the questioning 899 00:36:46,521 --> 00:36:48,121 to get so personal in there. 900 00:36:48,190 --> 00:36:50,423 Religion is personal, Sturgis. 901 00:36:50,492 --> 00:36:53,142 You can't discuss it dispassionately. 902 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:56,145 All you've been through, and you still trust in people. 903 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,214 You still believe 904 00:36:57,249 --> 00:36:59,169 Commander Bentley is sincere, hmm? 905 00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:02,652 People have a way of letting you down. 906 00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,821 Is this about a woman, Sturgis? 907 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,457 That, uh, Congresswoman, uh, Latham, maybe? 908 00:37:07,526 --> 00:37:09,606 She loved politics more than she loved me. 909 00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:11,811 That is ancient history. 910 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,497 It's in my nature to try to do my best, 911 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,934 but my friends, my coworkers, it... 912 00:37:18,002 --> 00:37:20,053 Try this one, Dad. 913 00:37:21,355 --> 00:37:23,723 Your son, the son of a man who joined the navy 914 00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:26,159 back when we were called colored and Negroes... 915 00:37:26,227 --> 00:37:28,494 A man who tolerated all that bigotry 916 00:37:28,563 --> 00:37:30,374 because he wanted to serve his country... 917 00:37:30,398 --> 00:37:34,567 That man's son is facing a complaint of racial bias. 918 00:37:36,538 --> 00:37:38,804 You embarrassed by your favorite son yet, Dad? 919 00:37:38,873 --> 00:37:41,307 I was accused of being racist against Koreans. 920 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,026 Is it the truth? 921 00:37:47,532 --> 00:37:48,814 I don't know. 922 00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:51,979 Then it's not about your coworkers. 923 00:37:52,003 --> 00:37:54,003 It's about you. 924 00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:00,243 I am so far away from what I wanted to be in my life, 925 00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:02,272 I don't even recognize myself, Dad. 926 00:38:03,798 --> 00:38:06,349 We're all sinners, son... All imperfect. 927 00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:10,820 You got to accept that and let it pass. 928 00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:15,041 You got to learn how to bend 929 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:17,243 before you break. 930 00:38:20,582 --> 00:38:21,742 MacKENZIE: The term, 931 00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,100 posse comitatus, means "force of the county," 932 00:38:24,169 --> 00:38:26,503 and for 125 years, we have kept the military 933 00:38:26,571 --> 00:38:28,405 out of local law enforcement. 934 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,408 There are no soldiers or tanks patrolling our streets, 935 00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:32,776 no troops enforcing laws 936 00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:34,656 at the whims of their commanders. 937 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,845 And that's what separates us 938 00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:38,214 from the banana republics of the world, Your Honor. 939 00:38:38,283 --> 00:38:40,227 The law is subject to numerous exceptions, 940 00:38:40,251 --> 00:38:41,384 is it not, Colonel? 941 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,533 Only in very narrow instances, Your Honor. 942 00:38:43,588 --> 00:38:44,699 In this case, 943 00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:45,817 there were no standing orders 944 00:38:45,841 --> 00:38:47,135 expressly forbidding Major Tunney 945 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:48,469 from doing what he did. 946 00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:50,076 But Major Tunney is presumed 947 00:38:50,145 --> 00:38:52,528 to know the law, and that law makes it illegal 948 00:38:52,597 --> 00:38:54,717 for a marine major with an attack helicopter 949 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:56,099 to become a vigilante. 950 00:38:56,168 --> 00:38:57,667 Objection. Pejorative. 951 00:38:57,736 --> 00:38:58,930 Sustained. 952 00:38:58,954 --> 00:39:00,547 Is there any proof Major Tunney acted 953 00:39:00,571 --> 00:39:02,705 out of any motive other than to save lives, 954 00:39:02,773 --> 00:39:04,819 including his own and that of his copilot? 955 00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:06,476 No such proof, Your Honor. 956 00:39:06,545 --> 00:39:08,011 Only a strong suspicion 957 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,613 that the major wanted to add a chapter to his memoirs. 958 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,752 After 9/11, state governors 959 00:39:16,821 --> 00:39:18,954 had to call the National Guard in 960 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:20,156 to patrol airports, 961 00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:22,492 because to give that job to regular army troops 962 00:39:22,561 --> 00:39:24,360 would have been illegal. 963 00:39:24,429 --> 00:39:26,407 The law is worse than obsolete, Your Honor. 964 00:39:26,431 --> 00:39:28,515 It's a danger to national security. 965 00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:32,101 Objection. We can't ignore laws simply because they're old. 966 00:39:32,169 --> 00:39:33,914 The colonel is right. 967 00:39:33,938 --> 00:39:35,232 Commander, you're making 968 00:39:35,256 --> 00:39:37,290 a good argument for repealing the law, 969 00:39:37,358 --> 00:39:39,270 but until I'm elected to congress, 970 00:39:39,294 --> 00:39:40,576 what am I to do? 971 00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:43,095 Narrowly construe the statute, Your Honor. 972 00:39:43,165 --> 00:39:46,632 Rule that merely returning fire does not violate the law. 973 00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:52,288 We are in recess until tomorrow at 0900. 974 00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,793 Commander Bentley, the skeptic 975 00:39:56,862 --> 00:39:58,461 inside of me says 976 00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:02,766 that you wish to avoid being sent to Iraq. 977 00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:06,569 The problem is, I'm not sure that I'm right, 978 00:40:06,638 --> 00:40:10,573 and I sure can't prove that you're wrong. 979 00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:14,010 So, I am going to recommend to the convening authority 980 00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:17,280 that your request for conscientious objector status 981 00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:20,549 and separation from the Naval Reserves be approved. 982 00:40:21,636 --> 00:40:23,352 God bless you, Lieutenant. 983 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:26,055 On a related matter, Commander, if I understand correctly, 984 00:40:26,123 --> 00:40:29,291 you wish to be removed from any connection to the military, 985 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,493 no matter how indirect. 986 00:40:30,562 --> 00:40:31,794 That's correct, Lieutenant. 987 00:40:31,862 --> 00:40:32,778 In that case, 988 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:34,347 I am separately recommending 989 00:40:34,415 --> 00:40:36,315 that you, as a provider, be removed 990 00:40:36,384 --> 00:40:38,033 from the military health plan. 991 00:40:39,604 --> 00:40:40,970 Removed? 992 00:40:41,038 --> 00:40:43,622 As soon as possible, you should inform your military patients 993 00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,625 that their insurance will no longer cover your services. 994 00:40:47,729 --> 00:40:51,030 But I will lose my entire practice. 995 00:40:53,051 --> 00:40:54,331 Commander, 996 00:40:54,368 --> 00:40:55,634 he can't do this, can he? 997 00:40:56,954 --> 00:40:59,088 I'll certainly appeal on your behalf, Doctor, 998 00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:01,034 but I think the lieutenant's recommendation 999 00:41:01,058 --> 00:41:02,642 will be favorably received. 1000 00:41:02,711 --> 00:41:04,027 But... It seems 1001 00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:07,697 quite consistent with your... beliefs, Dr. Bentley. 1002 00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:11,317 Commander, you asked for separation, 1003 00:41:11,386 --> 00:41:14,987 so if you would, sir, please separate yourself. 1004 00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:17,056 That will be all. 1005 00:41:17,125 --> 00:41:19,425 Lieutenant... 1006 00:41:19,494 --> 00:41:20,960 I will go bankrupt. 1007 00:41:22,063 --> 00:41:24,246 Sometimes faith carries a heavy price. 1008 00:41:38,345 --> 00:41:40,980 I have to admit that... 1009 00:41:41,049 --> 00:41:44,383 for a while there, I thought he might be for real. 1010 00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,915 Never put your faith in people, Lieutenant. 1011 00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:49,505 You will always be disappointed. 1012 00:41:56,498 --> 00:41:57,696 It is becoming 1013 00:41:57,765 --> 00:41:59,231 increasingly difficult to distinguish 1014 00:41:59,301 --> 00:42:00,866 between an act of terrorism 1015 00:42:00,935 --> 00:42:02,702 worthy of a military response, 1016 00:42:02,771 --> 00:42:06,939 and a criminal act better suited for police jurisdiction. 1017 00:42:07,008 --> 00:42:08,753 And while I have reservations about 1018 00:42:08,777 --> 00:42:10,154 Major Tunney's behavior, 1019 00:42:10,178 --> 00:42:11,789 I also remember our government's 1020 00:42:11,813 --> 00:42:14,364 first response to the attack on the World Trade Center 1021 00:42:14,432 --> 00:42:17,433 was to scramble F-16s over the East Coast. 1022 00:42:17,502 --> 00:42:19,602 What Major Tunney did cannot be considered 1023 00:42:19,671 --> 00:42:21,854 a national security defense countermeasure, 1024 00:42:21,922 --> 00:42:24,190 but I do believe he acted in good faith 1025 00:42:24,259 --> 00:42:26,053 to preserve the lives of US citizens 1026 00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:27,610 he saw taking fire. 1027 00:42:28,746 --> 00:42:30,073 I do not find that reasonable grounds 1028 00:42:30,097 --> 00:42:33,382 exist to charge Major Tunney with an Article 92 1029 00:42:33,451 --> 00:42:34,578 violation. 1030 00:42:34,602 --> 00:42:36,080 Therefore, I recommend 1031 00:42:36,104 --> 00:42:38,454 that no disciplinary action be taken. 1032 00:42:38,522 --> 00:42:40,501 This hearing is concluded. 1033 00:42:44,111 --> 00:42:45,744 Congratulations, Major. 1034 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,093 Thanks, Commander. 1035 00:42:47,148 --> 00:42:50,633 Major, you, uh, certainly dodged a bullet today. 1036 00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:51,734 Yes, sir. 1037 00:42:51,802 --> 00:42:53,252 Unfortunately, the wing commander 1038 00:42:53,321 --> 00:42:54,848 doesn't listen to Navy JAG lawyers. 1039 00:42:54,872 --> 00:42:56,801 You're being transferred TAD 1040 00:42:56,825 --> 00:42:58,602 out of the squadron, pending a FENAB 1041 00:42:58,626 --> 00:43:00,159 to evaluate your flying status. 1042 00:43:00,228 --> 00:43:02,912 I guess he figures public perception of the Corps 1043 00:43:02,981 --> 00:43:04,814 is more important than one man's career. 1044 00:43:04,883 --> 00:43:06,048 Sir... 1045 00:43:06,117 --> 00:43:07,149 It's, uh... 1046 00:43:07,218 --> 00:43:09,468 it's already done, Major. 1047 00:43:09,537 --> 00:43:12,097 Come see me in my office to receive your orders. 1048 00:43:17,929 --> 00:43:19,145 So, was it worth it, Major? 1049 00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:22,498 Yes, ma'am. 1050 00:43:22,567 --> 00:43:24,399 I'd do it again. 78068

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