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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:47,324 This morning, I came... 2 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:51,295 ...I saw... and I was conquered, 3 00:00:51,319 --> 00:00:56,700 as everyone would be who sees for the first time 4 00:00:56,724 --> 00:01:00,328 this great feat of mankind. 5 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:08,312 Ten years ago the place where we are gathered 6 00:01:08,336 --> 00:01:13,350 was an unpeopled, forbidding desert. 7 00:01:13,374 --> 00:01:16,653 In the bottom of the gloomy canyon whose precipitous walls 8 00:01:16,677 --> 00:01:19,456 rose to height of more than a thousand feet, 9 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,716 flowed a turbulent, dangerous river. 10 00:01:27,655 --> 00:01:30,567 We are here to celebrate the completion 11 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:33,703 of the greatest dam in the world, 12 00:01:33,727 --> 00:01:38,742 rising 726 feet above the bedrock of the river 13 00:01:38,766 --> 00:01:42,803 and altering the geography of a whole region. 14 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:56,160 The people of the United States are proud. 15 00:01:56,184 --> 00:01:59,829 With the exception of the few 16 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:02,899 who are narrow-visioned. 17 00:02:02,923 --> 00:02:06,470 This great dam won universal approval. 18 00:02:06,494 --> 00:02:10,407 This is an engineering victory of the first order. 19 00:02:10,431 --> 00:02:15,179 Another great achievement of American resourcefulness, 20 00:02:15,203 --> 00:02:19,440 American skill and American determination. 21 00:03:13,494 --> 00:03:17,241 These are... this is the tape from, uh... 22 00:03:17,265 --> 00:03:19,976 Recently taped them at Hetch Hetchy, left it, 23 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,779 and then just kept them after the Elwha. 24 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:24,681 But, yeah... 25 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:31,721 A little quieter compared to this. You know? 26 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:41,531 Go for it. But do it bigger and better. 27 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:42,866 Definitely do it bigger and better. 28 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:44,668 Don't, you know, it's like, great, 29 00:03:44,692 --> 00:03:47,371 25 years ago we did a couple painted cracks on dams. 30 00:03:47,395 --> 00:03:49,873 Passé, it's old, been done. Take it a step further. 31 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:53,867 Just something, you know, something really impressive. 32 00:03:54,935 --> 00:03:56,946 I don't know what that'd be, but... 33 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:00,750 come up with something. 34 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:03,387 Inspiration can be a pretty dangerous thing. 35 00:04:03,411 --> 00:04:06,856 Mikal's advice haunted me for months after we interviewed him. 36 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,793 What sort of lunatic rappels off a 200-foot dam 37 00:04:09,817 --> 00:04:12,662 with a paint bucket, alone in the middle of the night, 38 00:04:12,686 --> 00:04:14,030 just to make a statement? 39 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:16,366 Anyway, I'm getting way ahead of myself. 40 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:18,768 We'll get back to that. My name's Ben, by the way. 41 00:04:18,792 --> 00:04:20,970 I'll be your narrator. 42 00:04:20,994 --> 00:04:23,540 It was kind of embarrassing how little I knew about dams 43 00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:25,442 when I started working on this film. 44 00:04:25,466 --> 00:04:27,577 I used to sneak inside their overflow tunnels 45 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:30,046 once in awhile, to take photos of my friends skateboarding. 46 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,882 So the extent of my knowledge about dams mostly had to do 47 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:36,377 with how to avoid getting arrested while crawling inside them. 48 00:04:45,419 --> 00:04:48,832 Dams don't just blend in as part of the landscape to me anymore. 49 00:04:48,856 --> 00:04:51,535 Knowing what I know now, it's impossible for me 50 00:04:51,559 --> 00:04:54,438 to look at dams the same way I did a few years ago. 51 00:04:54,462 --> 00:04:56,406 Or even rivers for that matter. 52 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:59,943 Dams and hydropower represent a pivotal part of US history. 53 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:01,711 There's no denying that. 54 00:05:01,735 --> 00:05:04,514 But just like any other resource development in the US, 55 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:06,006 we took it too far. 56 00:05:13,414 --> 00:05:19,095 There are 75,000 dams over three feet high 57 00:05:19,119 --> 00:05:21,030 in the United States. 58 00:05:21,054 --> 00:05:25,435 That's the equivalent of building one everyday since Thomas Jefferson. 59 00:05:25,459 --> 00:05:27,728 Was the president of the United States. 60 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:35,111 Dams have been a common part of the American landscape for centuries. 61 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:37,381 Most early communities were established 62 00:05:37,405 --> 00:05:39,383 on the banks of rivers so dams could be built 63 00:05:39,407 --> 00:05:42,776 to divert river flows to water wheels to run machinery. 64 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:47,424 Around the time Edison had the light bulb dialed in, 65 00:05:47,448 --> 00:05:51,828 the first hydroelectric powers was being generated on the US side of Niagara Falls. 66 00:05:51,852 --> 00:05:57,033 At one point, nearly half the country's power was being fed by hydropower alone. 67 00:05:57,057 --> 00:05:59,769 As America's dependency on electricity grew, 68 00:05:59,793 --> 00:06:01,738 new dams were being built so fast 69 00:06:01,762 --> 00:06:05,041 that the engineering technology struggled to keep up. 70 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:09,145 One of the worst disasters in US history occurred in 1889 71 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:12,916 when Pennsylvania South Fork Dam failed with no warning. 72 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:17,086 The city of Johnstown was leveled with 20 million tons of water, 73 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:19,122 taking 2,200 lives. 74 00:06:19,146 --> 00:06:22,191 The flood is still referred to as a natural disaster, 75 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:24,794 despite the fact that there's really nothing natural 76 00:06:24,818 --> 00:06:28,765 about impounding a river behind a poorly constructed wall. 77 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:32,469 In the late 1800s, the government was faced with a tough choice 78 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:36,573 when they began to realize that every major fishery in the country was at risk. 79 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:41,611 Either start regulating the impact of harvest pollution and dams on wild fish, 80 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:44,848 or mitigate that loss by trading nature for science. 81 00:06:44,872 --> 00:06:47,984 The answer was the national fish hatchery system. 82 00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:51,521 In 1902, the Reclamation Act was passed by Congress 83 00:06:51,545 --> 00:06:53,056 to promote the settlement of the West 84 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,091 through the development of irrigation projects 85 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:57,226 to support small family farms. 86 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:58,828 This well intentioned mission 87 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:00,897 devolved into the Bureau of Reclamation, 88 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:04,133 whose short-sided projects began a legacy of resource abuse. 89 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:06,936 Transporting and impounding absurd amounts of water 90 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,908 to support unsustainable desert agriculture and sprawling urban development. 91 00:07:11,932 --> 00:07:14,043 The mighty waters of the Colorado, 92 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:16,212 were running unused to the sea. 93 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:19,683 Today we translate them 94 00:07:19,707 --> 00:07:23,953 into a great national possession. 95 00:07:23,977 --> 00:07:27,524 In 1913, a seven-year environmental battle, 96 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:30,126 led by the legendary Sierra Club founder, John Muir, 97 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:34,731 ended in vain, when Congress gave the green light to flood a national park. 98 00:07:34,755 --> 00:07:37,767 Yosemite's stunning Hetch Hetchy Valley was dammed 99 00:07:37,791 --> 00:07:41,094 to provide water storage for the city of San Francisco. 100 00:07:45,232 --> 00:07:48,712 On March 12th, 1928, 12 hours after 101 00:07:48,736 --> 00:07:51,815 a safety inspection by its engineer William Mulholland, 102 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:55,018 California's St. Francis Dam broke free from its foundation, 103 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:58,755 sending a wall of LA's water supply plowing downstream. 104 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:01,688 Mulholland was cleared of any wrongdoing, but 105 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,694 felt personally responsible for dam's failure. 106 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:07,697 "I envy the dead," said Mulholland at a court hearing. 107 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:12,893 "Don't blame anyone else. If there was an error in human judgment, I was the human." 108 00:08:17,164 --> 00:08:20,209 During the Great Depression, Reclamation began the two most 109 00:08:20,233 --> 00:08:23,046 ambitious engineering efforts in US history: 110 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:26,115 The Hoover Dam on the border of Arizona and Nevada 111 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:28,918 and the Grand Coulee Dam in eastern Washington. 112 00:08:28,942 --> 00:08:31,588 Both projects created thousands of coveted jobs, 113 00:08:31,612 --> 00:08:33,681 and were proudly embraced by the public as national treasures. 114 00:08:36,817 --> 00:08:39,262 By the time Coulee's generators went online, 115 00:08:39,286 --> 00:08:43,232 the US hydropower's system was feeding an insatiable demand for electricity 116 00:08:43,256 --> 00:08:46,860 to build airplanes, ships and bombs for World War II. 117 00:08:49,697 --> 00:08:53,943 If the era of dams had a Golden Age, it was the following 20 years. 118 00:08:53,967 --> 00:08:56,980 The Army Corps of Engineers, the Bureau of Reclamation 119 00:08:57,004 --> 00:08:58,648 and the Tennessee Valley Authority, 120 00:08:58,672 --> 00:09:00,083 were the government's dream team. 121 00:09:00,107 --> 00:09:01,985 If it flowed, it was dammed. 122 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:03,753 Any river left unharnessed 123 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:06,656 was considered a dangerous torrent with wasted potential. 124 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:12,552 Thirty thousand private and federal dams were completed between 1950 and 1970. 125 00:09:15,989 --> 00:09:18,367 By that point, the Yellowstone was one of very few 126 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:21,605 unauthored watersheds left in the nation. 127 00:09:21,629 --> 00:09:25,875 When the Bureau of Reclamation began running out of ideal locations to build dams, 128 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:27,744 shit starting getting weird. 129 00:09:27,768 --> 00:09:30,914 Massive dams were proposed in Grand Canyon National Park 130 00:09:30,938 --> 00:09:33,182 and Utah's Dinosaur National Monument. 131 00:09:33,206 --> 00:09:36,686 Led by environmentalist David Brower, the Sierra Club worked quickly 132 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:39,989 to rally a massive outcry of public disapproval. 133 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:42,626 But while Brower's attention was focused elsewhere, 134 00:09:42,650 --> 00:09:47,196 Reclamation's new secret weapon was quietly flooding a little known national treasure 135 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:49,065 with very little opposition. 136 00:09:49,089 --> 00:09:51,701 If he'd had known how beautiful that area was, 137 00:09:51,725 --> 00:09:54,137 he would've fought it tooth and nail. 138 00:09:54,161 --> 00:09:59,408 Brower now says that was the biggest mistake he's every made. 139 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:04,413 In 1973, the Endangered Species Act was set into motion by President Nixon. 140 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,851 A bold move to protect endangered species from extinction 141 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:10,286 as a consequence of economic development. 142 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:13,322 And dam contributing to the demise of a species, 143 00:10:13,346 --> 00:10:16,059 could now be held accountable by law. 144 00:10:16,083 --> 00:10:19,996 In 1976, the Bureau of Reclamation set up a claims office 145 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:22,899 in eastern Idaho to Divvy out $300 million 146 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:27,170 to the communities in the flood path of their newly completed Teton Dam. 147 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:30,039 As its reservoir filled for the very first time, 148 00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:34,077 the 300-foot earthen dam started to liquefy and cave away, 149 00:10:34,101 --> 00:10:37,004 taking 11 lives downstream. 150 00:10:38,706 --> 00:10:41,951 During an interview with the High Country News in 1995, 151 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:45,288 Clinton appointed, Bureau of Reclamation commissioner Dan Beard 152 00:10:45,312 --> 00:10:48,191 stated that, "The Bureau's future isn't in dams. 153 00:10:48,215 --> 00:10:50,259 The era of dams is over." 154 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:54,463 In 1997, the 162-year-old Edwards Dam, 155 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:56,165 on Maine's Kennebec River, 156 00:10:56,189 --> 00:10:59,268 became the first major dam removal in US history. 157 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:02,205 River conservation organization, American Rivers, 158 00:11:02,229 --> 00:11:05,141 declared 2011, "The Year of the River," 159 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:07,443 as multiple dam removal projects began, 160 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:11,347 including the largest in US history, on Washington's Elwha River, 161 00:11:11,371 --> 00:11:13,707 in Olympic National Park. 162 00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:27,864 We are here today to say, "Free that beautiful Elwha River, let her run free." 163 00:11:27,888 --> 00:11:31,234 Uh... We're here to say, "Welcome back," to the salmon. 164 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:34,137 We want you to live free, again. 165 00:11:34,161 --> 00:11:36,840 There are a grand total in that pool over there, 166 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:42,511 someone counted them yesterday, 73 salmon. Not 72, not 74. 167 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:46,449 I love people with fisheries and wildlife, "There are exactly 73, governor." 168 00:11:48,475 --> 00:11:54,123 So, to those we say, "We want 73,000 more. Welcome back, come on back." 169 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:56,049 That's what this day is all about. 170 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,374 See a lot of people don't realize how deep this... really deep this is. 171 00:12:11,398 --> 00:12:16,179 Until you get right here to the edge and you look over. 172 00:12:16,203 --> 00:12:20,784 Yeah, I mean it was... you know it was kinda known that today was the last day 173 00:12:20,808 --> 00:12:23,352 of our final operations up here on the dam. 174 00:12:23,376 --> 00:12:26,379 It was... yeah, a little reflective. 175 00:12:28,916 --> 00:12:30,493 You come into a plant, 176 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:33,462 and as you learn to operate and spend time with them, 177 00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:39,002 you learn to listen to certain sounds that are not normal, 178 00:12:39,026 --> 00:12:42,338 certain vibrations that are not typical. 179 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:46,175 But this machine, for as many years as its ran, 180 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:49,913 we would block load it and she'd just run and run smooth. 181 00:12:49,937 --> 00:12:54,984 I think she'd just kept on runnin' for years and years. 182 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:59,488 June 1st was a big day, that was hard... I'll be honest with you. 183 00:12:59,512 --> 00:13:05,028 To shut down two perfectly good running power plants, it wasn't easy. 184 00:13:05,052 --> 00:13:10,199 We, as a country right now, are infatuated with tearing things down. 185 00:13:10,223 --> 00:13:14,938 It's not just an enterprise to blow something up 186 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:17,373 and build something new and grander. 187 00:13:17,397 --> 00:13:20,343 Uh, I mean, we're removing these for good. 188 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:25,081 And we're not just taking dams out but we're having to relocate families. 189 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:27,450 And they're losing their jobs. 190 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:32,021 Yeah, I have... I probably have some personal feelings towards... 191 00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:34,314 ...especially being a hydropower guy. 192 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:40,263 I think there's a very intentional movement, 193 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:43,466 by various groups in our country to remove every dam. 194 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:45,292 There's not doubt about that. 195 00:13:47,027 --> 00:13:48,872 We're all anxious to see, 196 00:13:48,896 --> 00:13:51,140 was this thing really worth it? 197 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:56,579 Was is worth the $370 million to the American taxpayer to do this? 198 00:13:56,603 --> 00:13:59,048 Did it really make a difference? 199 00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:04,253 And if in ten or 20 years down the road we look back and say, 200 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:07,056 "Nothing really changed that much," 201 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,326 then I think we're all going to come to some similar conclusions. 202 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:14,063 And only times going to tell is if that's going to be true or not. 203 00:14:14,087 --> 00:14:15,631 What's your gut say? 204 00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:17,300 What's my gut say? 205 00:14:17,324 --> 00:14:20,636 Uh, I just assume not say anything. 206 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:23,596 That says a lot. 207 00:14:24,998 --> 00:14:28,135 I'm not running for politics, buddy. 208 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:36,219 I made a statement about taking out Elwha Dam 209 00:14:36,243 --> 00:14:38,587 in my first months in office. 210 00:14:38,611 --> 00:14:41,624 And it caused a lot of trouble. The president... 211 00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:44,360 President Clinton took me aside and said, 212 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,131 "Bruce, what's all this talk about removing dams?" 213 00:14:48,155 --> 00:14:51,667 When I first moved to the state of Washington in 1991, 214 00:14:51,691 --> 00:14:55,138 I was told, "Gotta get involved with the Elwha Dam removal project! 215 00:14:55,162 --> 00:14:56,672 It's gonna happen any year now." 216 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:59,208 So, 20 years later, it's actually happening. 217 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:04,147 The dams, both of them, were illegal to start with, 218 00:15:04,171 --> 00:15:10,119 because of existing legislation, which stated essentially that 219 00:15:10,143 --> 00:15:15,091 any dam built, had to have passage for migrating salmon. 220 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:19,562 All the species of wild fish that have ever live in Elwha 221 00:15:19,586 --> 00:15:21,530 are still there, biologists know that. 222 00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:24,367 Adult Snook Salmon still beating their head 223 00:15:24,391 --> 00:15:25,501 against the bottom of the dam, 224 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:28,004 A century later, they're still trying 225 00:15:28,028 --> 00:15:30,139 to get upstream, into Olympic National Park. 226 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:32,708 Taking a dam out and opening up a watershed, 227 00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:36,412 reconnecting it with the fish that were there for hundreds of thousands of years, 228 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:38,338 it's a very powerful experience. 229 00:15:41,008 --> 00:15:42,451 There's three things that come to mind: 230 00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:44,120 Hope, humility and happiness. 231 00:15:44,144 --> 00:15:46,489 The hope of recovery in a lot of these places, 232 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,458 the humility when you go to places like southwest Alaska, 233 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:52,095 um, and other places where you see the abundance. 234 00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:55,764 A just a basic spiritual happiness that you can't find in... 235 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:58,358 I can't find in a lot of other things. 236 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:06,375 It was the elders that kept the memory alive. 237 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:09,612 It was the elders that passed that knowledge, 238 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:13,140 the knowledge of this river in its origin. 239 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:15,551 They don't forget. 240 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:18,254 They don't move on. 241 00:16:18,278 --> 00:16:24,551 They remember and they persistently seek restoration of what was once. 242 00:16:26,553 --> 00:16:32,068 It's an answer to our ancestor's prayers. 243 00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:36,739 And I'm just grateful that we're able to see it happen in our lifetime. 244 00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:40,509 So, that's what we're doing, we're saying thank you 245 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:45,172 for making sure that the fish come back and sustain the people. 246 00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:53,356 The people of the lower Elwha, 247 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:58,061 they entered into a treaty in 1855 248 00:16:58,085 --> 00:17:00,663 that gave the word of the United States, 249 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:05,134 that they would be able to continue their way of life, 250 00:17:05,158 --> 00:17:08,504 and to live off the abundant resources 251 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:11,174 of that free-flowing river. 252 00:17:11,198 --> 00:17:13,242 Although the US Constitution 253 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:17,146 says that treaties are the supreme law of the land, 254 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:23,219 the people of the lower Elwha saw only injustice 255 00:17:23,243 --> 00:17:26,855 for about 100 years. 256 00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,158 But there's a healing now, 257 00:17:29,182 --> 00:17:32,185 because that is changing. 258 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:38,801 All of Indian country is here in spirit, 259 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:44,164 and their eyes are focused on the people of the lower Elwha. 260 00:18:37,550 --> 00:18:40,596 "Where had they come from? 261 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:43,432 The answer sounds like a fairy tale. 262 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:45,601 The far reaches of the sea. 263 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:49,205 How had they arrived? Another fairy tale. 264 00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:52,341 By swimming against one of the most powerful rivers on Earth, 265 00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:56,712 past eight deadly dams all the way up from the Pacific. 266 00:18:56,736 --> 00:19:01,684 Why had they made such an insane journey? Another wonder. 267 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:05,421 These colored stones and clear currents so high and far 268 00:19:05,445 --> 00:19:07,623 from the sea, once gave them life. 269 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,226 So they'd become mountain climbers. 270 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:14,597 Literal mountain climbers, though they possess no legs, hooves, feet, 271 00:19:14,621 --> 00:19:19,235 They'd climb the Rockies to the pebbles of their berth by swimming home, 272 00:19:19,259 --> 00:19:21,804 at the certain cost of their lives, 273 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:25,798 in order to create tiny silver offspring." 274 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:37,853 I just want to welcome you folks to Grand Coulee Dam. 275 00:19:37,877 --> 00:19:42,391 This is the largest producer of hydroelectricity in North America, 276 00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:44,827 and the largest concrete structure in North America. 277 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,696 For many years it was the largest in the world. 278 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,666 Two-hundred-fifty-thousand gallons of water a second 279 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,868 going through each of the big penstocks, 280 00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:54,937 and when it's really cranking good, 281 00:19:54,961 --> 00:19:57,406 it can actually vibrate through the bedrock, 282 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:59,808 you can sometimes feel it clear across the river. 283 00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:03,303 So you just really know there's a lot of power there. 284 00:20:07,574 --> 00:20:13,489 There are those that would take out every dam just to save a couple of salmon. 285 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:17,260 There are those that think the Native Americans got a raw deal. 286 00:20:17,284 --> 00:20:21,697 Some of them, of course, would like to go back and have their native salmon runs 287 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:23,332 and live off the land. 288 00:20:23,356 --> 00:20:26,402 But things progress... 289 00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:30,806 The Elwha, the Condit, they were old dams, 290 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:33,309 obsolete in terms of efficiency, 291 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,311 so if we want to selectively take out 292 00:20:35,335 --> 00:20:36,812 some of those older, smaller dams, 293 00:20:36,836 --> 00:20:39,382 not really a problem there. 294 00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:41,049 We can do that, restore some fisheries, 295 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,886 but this dam, I can't conceive of anybody 296 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:48,391 really, seriously, wanting to take this dam out. 297 00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:51,727 A dam, for salmon, essentially is, lack of access. 298 00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:55,831 Their basic life history requires the juvenile fish to go out to the ocean, 299 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:57,900 and the adult fish to come back to their spawning stream. 300 00:20:57,924 --> 00:21:01,804 So, anything that blocks a river, like a dam does, 301 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:05,408 is end of story in terms of their ability to access 302 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,401 part of the world they need to complete their life cycle. 303 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,449 Some people still define the Pacific Northwest region 304 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:15,318 as anywhere salmon can swim. 305 00:21:15,342 --> 00:21:17,486 It's a romantic thing to say, but that would mean 306 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:19,988 the territory has been cut in half by dams. 307 00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:23,058 At one point, the Columbian Snake River, shown here in red, 308 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:26,595 were the most productive wild salmon fisheries in the lower 48. 309 00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:30,899 Now the runs hover around 8% of their former glory. 310 00:21:30,923 --> 00:21:33,902 Every fish that passes this window at Bonneville Dam, 311 00:21:33,926 --> 00:21:38,441 has to find and negotiate an elaborate passage to move upstream. 312 00:21:38,465 --> 00:21:41,377 The only chance for their offspring to get to the ocean 313 00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:44,847 is if the dams are spilling water, but that equates to wasted power. 314 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:48,116 So you'll commonly see juvenile fish being transported in barges 315 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,687 and trucks downstream, past the dams. 316 00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:54,657 Tens of thousands of now endangered Snake River Sockeye 317 00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:56,892 used to make the 900-mile journey to spawn 318 00:21:56,916 --> 00:21:58,727 in Idaho's Redfish Lake. 319 00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:02,998 In 1992, only one fish made it home past all eight dams. 320 00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:05,834 If you equate the number of Snake River Sockeye 321 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:07,870 that have returned in the 20 years since, 322 00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:10,606 to the amount of money spent on recovery efforts, 323 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:13,633 it comes to $9,000 per fish. 324 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,046 The rivers are run like machines. 325 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:20,983 Every aspect of their flow is controlled by computers 326 00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:22,751 in a Portland office. 327 00:22:22,775 --> 00:22:25,087 During spring runoff, when the rivers are cranking, 328 00:22:25,111 --> 00:22:27,790 there's actually a surplus of energy in the grid at times, 329 00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:32,094 leaving wind generated power with nowhere to go and no one to pay for it. 330 00:22:32,118 --> 00:22:34,997 Seeing thousands of wind turbines generating wind power 331 00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:38,967 in the Columbia Gorge with no impact on salmon runs and water quality, 332 00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:41,307 definitely raises the question as to how 333 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,939 hydropower could be marketed as green energy. 334 00:22:43,963 --> 00:22:48,777 One things for sure though, the pro-dam crowd seems a little threatened by it. 335 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,714 It's like Beanie Babies, the fad of Beanie Babies. 336 00:22:51,738 --> 00:22:53,916 Everybody had to have Beanie Babies. 337 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:57,586 Well, wind is a fad, everybody has to have wind. 338 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,988 And then you buy all of these Beanie Babies 339 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:02,090 and you load up the shelf and you got all of these 340 00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:05,093 Beanie Babies and what are they good for? 341 00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:06,795 Well, not much. 342 00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:10,089 And that's just the same as the wind, it's just a fad. 343 00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:14,169 It's really hard to have a balanced conversation 344 00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:16,204 on the subject of dams versus salmon. 345 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,442 When the most outspoken pro-dam politicians in the country 346 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:22,077 refused all of our requests for interviews. 347 00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:26,649 Well, one of them reluctantly let us in, and then not so reluctantly asked us to leave. 348 00:23:26,673 --> 00:23:29,852 I can't say I really blame these guys for not wanting to talk to us. 349 00:23:29,876 --> 00:23:32,755 But I couldn't help but wonder what their rhetoric would sound like. 350 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:35,924 Lucky for us, we heard they were throwing a little party 351 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,594 to introduce a bill that would prohibit federal funding 352 00:23:38,618 --> 00:23:40,663 from ever being used for dam removal, 353 00:23:40,687 --> 00:23:42,164 or the study or dam removal, 354 00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:45,458 unless explicitly authorized by Congress. 355 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,137 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, 356 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:51,574 thank for your leadership on this issue. 357 00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:56,645 Thank you, especially for holding this hearing to examine and expose 358 00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:59,882 The continuing drive of the environmental left 359 00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:02,651 to destroy our nations systems of dams. 360 00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:07,856 Some people seem to have forgotten that before the era of dam construction, 361 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,560 the endless cycle of withering droughts and violent floods, 362 00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,729 constantly plagued our watersheds. 363 00:24:13,753 --> 00:24:17,766 Our dams tamed these environmentally devastating events. 364 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,769 They turned deserts into oasis, 365 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:23,539 and laid the foundation for a century of growth 366 00:24:23,563 --> 00:24:25,874 and prosperity for the American West. 367 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:29,111 But over the last few decades, radical 368 00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:33,081 and retrograde ideology has seized our public policy. 369 00:24:33,105 --> 00:24:36,885 It springs from the bizarre notion that Mother Earth 370 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:41,023 must be restored to her pristine pre-historic condition 371 00:24:41,047 --> 00:24:44,056 even if it means restoring the human population 372 00:24:44,068 --> 00:24:46,595 to its pristine pre-historic condition. 373 00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:51,099 They're not satisfied with merely blocking construction of new dams, 374 00:24:51,123 --> 00:24:55,671 they're not seeking to destroy our existing facilities. 375 00:24:55,695 --> 00:24:58,240 We'll be required to stretch and ration 376 00:24:58,264 --> 00:25:01,577 every drop of water and every wad of electricity 377 00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:05,247 in their bleak and stifling and dimly lit homes. 378 00:25:05,271 --> 00:25:10,586 Homes in which gravel has replaced green lawns and toilets constantly back up. 379 00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:14,122 To me, these glaring hypocrisies destroy their credibility 380 00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:18,727 and reveal an unabashedly nihilistic agenda. 381 00:25:18,751 --> 00:25:21,864 This is the kind of lunacy we are facing. 382 00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:26,001 As you deal with these people, you begin to realize 383 00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:30,573 we are literally dealing with the lunatic fringe of our society, 384 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:34,009 and they are in charge of our public policy on these issues 385 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:36,278 because we let them. 386 00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:38,571 We're not going to let them anymore. 387 00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:49,658 As tempting as it was to stay and high-five all our new pro-dam friends, 388 00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:53,996 there was a place just a few miles away that I wanted to visit. 389 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:57,299 Just 57 years ago at this spot on the Columbia River, 390 00:25:57,323 --> 00:25:59,702 the Army Corps of Engineers committed today 391 00:25:59,726 --> 00:26:02,561 what would be called an act of cultural genocide. 392 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:09,845 As Sherman Alexie, a Spokane Coeur d'Alene Indian says, 393 00:26:09,869 --> 00:26:12,380 "Salmon are the Eucharist of the tribes." 394 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:16,218 The Eucharist, like, the blood and body of Christ, 395 00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:18,654 it's that serious a symbol. 396 00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:24,326 And to run the dams in a way that wipes out their culture, 397 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:26,729 their spirituality and their revenue, 398 00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:29,097 is like there being a federal bureaucracy 399 00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:32,635 that removes the cattle from ranches and tells cowboys 400 00:26:32,659 --> 00:26:34,861 that they're doing them a favor. 401 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:41,209 This is Celilo Falls. 402 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:47,339 The age old fishing grounds of the Columbia River Indians. 403 00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:52,387 Here is a fisherman swinging his net. 404 00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:56,825 Gathering fish for the salmon feast 405 00:26:56,849 --> 00:27:01,229 given to welcome the spring. 406 00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:05,033 And my dad woke me up and it was dark yet. 407 00:27:05,057 --> 00:27:08,070 "Come on, son, let's go, the fish are coming." 408 00:27:08,094 --> 00:27:13,776 Took me outside the tent, he said "Listen." 409 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:19,214 It sounded like a thousand people with an oar beating on the water. 410 00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:22,008 It was salmon coming up the river. 411 00:27:25,745 --> 00:27:28,423 The Celilo Falls was the, you know, 412 00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:32,728 the grandest rendezvous place for our people, 413 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:35,698 and plateau tribes, in general. 414 00:27:35,722 --> 00:27:40,736 It mattered not whether you was Yakama, Nespers, Umatilla, Cayuse... 415 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,271 Whatever you were, didn't matter. 416 00:27:43,295 --> 00:27:45,698 You was a part of it. 417 00:27:50,236 --> 00:27:55,818 This mist and the roar of that water is just... 418 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:59,278 I think about it right now and I can hear it. 419 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,729 That's one of my great things that... in my memories. 420 00:28:06,753 --> 00:28:09,989 When I think about it, I can actually hear it. 421 00:28:12,792 --> 00:28:17,072 This is the first, and unfortunately the last time, 422 00:28:17,096 --> 00:28:20,375 that we will ever have a film of this ceremony. 423 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:24,112 As you will see, the great Dalles dam, 424 00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:27,249 which is being built several miles below here, 425 00:28:27,273 --> 00:28:31,787 will soon back up over these falls. 426 00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:36,091 They will cover the great fishing grounds, and the way of life 427 00:28:36,115 --> 00:28:41,187 that Indians have had here will disappear forever. 428 00:29:12,451 --> 00:29:15,121 Celilo Falls was gone. 429 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:20,302 So how do you think I felt? 430 00:29:20,326 --> 00:29:23,362 I knew what was there, and I knew what they done. 431 00:29:24,964 --> 00:29:29,111 Sometimes I get out and I look over that place and... 432 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:34,273 ...I can still see where some things should be and they're not there no more. 433 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:39,988 The wind has changed... 434 00:29:40,012 --> 00:29:43,515 ...because of the flat surfaces coming up the Columbia. 435 00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:48,430 The temperatures of the waters have changed. 436 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:54,002 The dead water makes it harder for the fish to get up and down. 437 00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:57,405 And now all it is, is a big body of water, is all it is. 438 00:29:57,429 --> 00:29:59,274 It means nothing to me. 439 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:02,110 All it means is what they took away. 440 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,847 What these dams have done, 441 00:30:04,871 --> 00:30:09,017 they completely tore my country apart. 442 00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:13,579 This is not the same country as it was that we remember. 443 00:30:24,256 --> 00:30:28,103 Dating back more than 10,000 years, Celilo was one of the oldest, 444 00:30:28,127 --> 00:30:31,206 continuously inhabited communities in North America 445 00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:34,042 until it was flooded in 1957. 446 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:36,211 At one point, the Army Corps of Engineers 447 00:30:36,235 --> 00:30:39,047 offered to lower the water backed up behind the Dalles Dam 448 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:42,985 long enough for the tribes to see the falls again, just for a day. 449 00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:47,389 There was a resounding "no" from elders 450 00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:52,460 that they could not live through seeing them flooded again. 451 00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:56,064 There were some elders that have never even been back there 452 00:30:56,088 --> 00:31:00,602 because it was so devastating, like a death is what they called it. 453 00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:04,630 Like a funeral, and they could not go through it again. 454 00:31:21,313 --> 00:31:25,060 Just upstream from Celilo, where the Snake River meets the Columbia, 455 00:31:25,084 --> 00:31:27,562 you'll find what many agree, are the most ill-conceived 456 00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:31,266 and environmentally destructive dams in America. 457 00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:33,435 Fed by 23 major tributaries, 458 00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:37,239 the Snake River was once the gateway to 5,500 miles 459 00:31:37,263 --> 00:31:41,076 of pristine wild fish habitat in Idaho alone. 460 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,180 Before lower Snake dams were built by the Army Corps of Engineers in the '60s, 461 00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:48,316 with the stated purpose of flood control irrigation, 462 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:51,519 navigation, recreation and hydropower, 463 00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:56,024 combined, the dams only generate about 4% of the regions energy. 464 00:31:56,048 --> 00:32:00,395 These are run of river dams, which means they provide little to no water storage. 465 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:03,465 That also means they're physically incapable of flood control, 466 00:32:03,489 --> 00:32:06,134 and it cancels out their need for irrigation. 467 00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:10,172 The main purpose of all four dams was river navigation, 468 00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:16,144 so a giant system of locks allows barges to haul goods up and downstream to port.. 469 00:32:16,168 --> 00:32:18,180 It's hard to ignore the simple fact that there's 470 00:32:18,204 --> 00:32:19,614 a perfectly good railroad, 471 00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:22,250 spanning the length of the shipping corridor 472 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,685 from Lewiston to Portland. 473 00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:26,388 If area farmers continue a recent progression 474 00:32:26,412 --> 00:32:28,356 towards shipping their grain by rail, 475 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,426 It'll be hard to deny that barging is unnecessary. 476 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:35,197 The lower Snake is technically open to the public for recreation, 477 00:32:35,221 --> 00:32:37,265 but I'd heard stories of boaters being harassed 478 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:39,534 for simply trying to paddle downstream. 479 00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:42,437 I wanted to see first hand if there was any truth to that 480 00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,606 so I managed to talk my friend Travis into one of 481 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:46,208 the worst ideas I've ever had. 482 00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:48,243 But I'll get back to that in a minute. 483 00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:50,545 In the meantime, I want to introduce you to this fella, 484 00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:53,115 who randomly walked up to the mic at a public meeting 485 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:57,519 and managed to simultaneously end his career and blow every mind in the room. 486 00:32:57,543 --> 00:33:00,588 I'm Jim Waddell, I'm not sure I have a question but, 487 00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:02,057 I wanna tell you something. 488 00:33:02,081 --> 00:33:05,493 I'm from the Army Corps of Engineers... 489 00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:08,130 From hearing all this stuff about the lower Snake dams, 490 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,365 and here I am, I know. 491 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:13,368 I probably know better, as a civil engineer, 492 00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:15,770 better than anyone in this country about those dams, 493 00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:19,507 and given what I knew, I just couldn't sit there any longer. 494 00:33:19,531 --> 00:33:23,245 And I'm going to get fired for what I'm about to tell you here... 495 00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:27,082 ...but it's time. 496 00:33:27,106 --> 00:33:29,684 Those dams are a travesty. 497 00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:31,686 They always have been, 498 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:36,724 from the day that Congress first authorized those, it's been a shame. 499 00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:41,329 Part of what I did was to manage and lead 500 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:44,399 the lower Snake feasibility study. 501 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:47,235 In 1995, the Army Corps was forced to address 502 00:33:47,259 --> 00:33:49,771 the environmental impact of the lower Snake dams 503 00:33:49,795 --> 00:33:52,774 when the Snake River sockeye was listed as endangered. 504 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:57,745 Their answer was the $35 million lower Snake feasibility study. 505 00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:00,682 I read the thing, I worked on this thing, 506 00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:05,220 and based on that, you know, I believed those dams needed to come out. 507 00:34:05,244 --> 00:34:08,614 On the Snake River, for the Snake River salmon, it's four dams too many. 508 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,825 I mean, the taxpayers, 509 00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:12,660 the people in Washington and Oregon, 510 00:34:12,684 --> 00:34:15,230 are not getting a good deal out of those dams. 511 00:34:15,254 --> 00:34:19,425 They're losing fish, and the economics are not helping them. 512 00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:22,870 So, anyway, it comes time for a decision, 513 00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:26,408 the colonel sits down with each one of us separately. 514 00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:28,143 And I read the first paragraph. 515 00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:29,711 And basically what it says is, 516 00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:32,247 that my recommendation, based on this document, 517 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:38,244 was that we should pursue professional authorization to bridge the dams. 518 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,126 Travis checked out the Army Corps website 519 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,261 and found a friendly little page that detailed 520 00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:48,463 how to pass through the Snake River lock system, 521 00:34:48,487 --> 00:34:50,565 if you're in a non-motorized craft. 522 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:52,834 This is where my terrible idea was born. 523 00:34:52,858 --> 00:34:55,537 I wanted to see what the Army Corps had once built 524 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:57,439 as some sort of recreational utopia. 525 00:34:57,463 --> 00:35:01,809 Everyone we spoke to in Lewiston confirmed that it was a seriously bad idea. 526 00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,579 Even this piece of art seemed like some sort of bad omen, 527 00:35:04,603 --> 00:35:09,375 as if every canoe in the state had been retired as a memorial to a lost river. 528 00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:12,687 Our plan was to kayak through all four locks, 529 00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:14,889 from Lewiston, Idaho to Pasco, Washington, 530 00:35:14,913 --> 00:35:17,392 where our truck was parked about 100 miles away. 531 00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:22,264 It seemed almost wrong to call this seemingly dead body of water a river. 532 00:35:22,288 --> 00:35:26,301 Usually, if you stop paddling on a river, you still move downstream. 533 00:35:26,325 --> 00:35:27,935 Here, not so much. 534 00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:30,405 Day one sucked. 535 00:35:30,429 --> 00:35:33,408 Usually, when it's 100 degree out, you just look for a tree to sit under, 536 00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:35,109 but they were all under water. 537 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:38,646 I was feeling pretty grumpy when Travis turned the camera on me. 538 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:42,817 I think he wanted me to admit that my idea was a legend among bad ideas, 539 00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:45,487 but I wasn't ready to give him the pleasure of knowing that. 540 00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:48,923 My nerves were wearing on me as we approached the dam, 541 00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:51,293 mainly because I'm a pessimist, but also 542 00:35:51,317 --> 00:35:53,595 because I can't swim for shit and I kept imagining 543 00:35:53,619 --> 00:35:58,833 getting sucked through a turbine and pureed like am out-migrating salmon. 544 00:35:58,857 --> 00:36:03,605 There was hardly anybody in the district that would even talk to me anymore. 545 00:36:03,629 --> 00:36:05,540 Anybody that thinks we should breach these dams, 546 00:36:05,564 --> 00:36:07,909 is obviously a communist and doesn't belong, you know, 547 00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:13,481 to be working around here, so I've been branded as not loyal to the organization. 548 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:17,519 I kinda feel like I failed at my job, 549 00:36:17,543 --> 00:36:19,987 because here I was in charge of this study, 550 00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:26,294 and in spite of my best efforts, I let $35 million worth of research 551 00:36:26,318 --> 00:36:28,463 end up ignored. 552 00:36:28,487 --> 00:36:32,234 As a public servant, that's our job, to make hard decisions. 553 00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:34,569 I happened to end up with someone that didn't have 554 00:36:34,593 --> 00:36:39,865 the fortitude or the strength to take that decision and go forward with it. 555 00:36:43,802 --> 00:36:47,749 I think we can have a win-win situation. 556 00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:52,654 Remove those dams, save the taxpayer money, improve a habitat, 557 00:36:52,678 --> 00:36:56,023 put more dollars back in this community 558 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,526 because people will come here to use this river. 559 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:04,299 And not only is it important to the ecosystem, it's amazing. 560 00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:10,004 Just amazing that they come 900 miles into the Snake River system. 561 00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:15,042 And it'd be a lot of teardrops 562 00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:19,046 of joy to see that river running again. 563 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:23,017 It's the largest possible salmon recovery venture 564 00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,753 of which humanity is capable. 565 00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:28,823 Would be simply the removal of those four dams. 566 00:37:28,847 --> 00:37:30,458 Nobody's ever heard of them. 567 00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:32,026 Nobody's ever been there. 568 00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:36,564 It has to become a national issue. 569 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:39,033 The Snake River is a public waterway. 570 00:37:39,057 --> 00:37:43,571 Our tax dollars pay to maintain these locks and these dams. 571 00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:46,040 The lower Snake feasibility study was ignored, 572 00:37:46,064 --> 00:37:50,412 and Jim Waddell's recommendation to breach the dams was removed. 573 00:37:50,436 --> 00:37:53,515 Despite hundreds of millions a year, not one of the four 574 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:57,676 endangered Snake River salmon species has been delisted. 575 00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:03,958 There's a great good here that belongs to the American people, 576 00:38:03,982 --> 00:38:06,861 that's being stolen from the American people 577 00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:10,589 by a very small corrupt branch of the federal government. 578 00:38:12,358 --> 00:38:14,369 The Army Corps website said to pull a cord 579 00:38:14,393 --> 00:38:16,338 to speak with a log master upon arrival, 580 00:38:16,362 --> 00:38:18,606 but we couldn't find it anywhere. 581 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:21,343 The last thing I wanted to do was get out of my kayak, 582 00:38:21,367 --> 00:38:24,812 but I knew our window was about to close any minute. 583 00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:27,982 I found a couple workers that told me how to find the cord, 584 00:38:28,006 --> 00:38:31,076 but also warn me that security was on the way. 585 00:38:32,778 --> 00:38:35,590 Right as I was about to pull the elusive cord, 586 00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:37,992 we made some new friends. 587 00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:40,519 Hey, how's it going? Not too bad... 588 00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:46,057 Yeah. 589 00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:48,093 Why not? 590 00:39:31,937 --> 00:39:34,148 I think we should get the sheriff to come down. 591 00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:36,083 Don't you? 592 00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:38,486 And just like that, I was off the hook. 593 00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:42,156 Travis had come up with an idea worse than mine. 594 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:43,991 Despite the depressing reality of the situation, 595 00:39:44,015 --> 00:39:48,195 I couldn't stop laughing as two police cars and Army Corps security truck 596 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:52,500 were trying to figure out how to pull over two kayaks from a nearby road. 597 00:39:52,524 --> 00:39:55,470 One of the more excited cops deleted the video 598 00:39:55,494 --> 00:39:57,171 of the conversation you're about to hear, 599 00:39:57,195 --> 00:39:58,940 but he didn't notice the fuzzy microphone 600 00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:00,875 sticking out of my life jacket. 601 00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:58,032 The more the layers peeled off this story, 602 00:40:58,056 --> 00:40:59,667 the deeper I wanted to go. 603 00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:02,637 There's one particularly divisive issue 604 00:41:02,661 --> 00:41:05,807 when it comes to dams that no one seems to want to talk about 605 00:41:05,831 --> 00:41:07,108 and that's fish hatcheries. 606 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:09,577 But before we tackle that beast, 607 00:41:09,601 --> 00:41:11,946 I think it's important to have a little appreciation 608 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,906 for one of the species that deserves our respect. 609 00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:21,756 You cannot have a creature come in from the ocean 610 00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:25,165 and enter the extreme state of vulnerability 611 00:41:25,177 --> 00:41:27,829 that is spawning in shallow water. 612 00:41:27,853 --> 00:41:32,800 Unless the people in that watershed agree to greet this wild creature 613 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:35,260 with great compassion and sensitivity. 614 00:41:38,697 --> 00:41:41,175 I think most people have heard of a rainbow trout 615 00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,078 or had one wiggle out of their hands at some point. 616 00:41:44,102 --> 00:41:48,683 Burt few have had the honor and privilege of meeting a Steelhead 617 00:41:48,707 --> 00:41:51,152 These highly respected sea run rainbows, 618 00:41:51,176 --> 00:41:54,055 have been severely impacted by West Coast dams, 619 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,925 and eliminated entirely from some watersheds. 620 00:41:57,949 --> 00:42:00,962 It's not uncommon for a fly fisherman to go weeks, 621 00:42:00,986 --> 00:42:03,965 or even a season, without feeling a pull of a Steelhead 622 00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:08,059 but their devotion to these storied creatures seems to fuel them. 623 00:42:09,761 --> 00:42:12,607 There's a uniquely cold stretch of water in Oregon, 624 00:42:12,631 --> 00:42:17,645 where a pod of these wild steel head have gathered for ages to rest before spawning. 625 00:42:17,669 --> 00:42:20,982 These particular fish have a special friend named Lee 626 00:42:21,006 --> 00:42:23,050 who lives about 30 feet away. 627 00:42:23,074 --> 00:42:25,186 Lee is their guardian, 628 00:42:25,210 --> 00:42:27,088 and he's kept notes on everything that happens 629 00:42:27,112 --> 00:42:30,291 in and around the river, for nearly 12 hours a day, 630 00:42:30,315 --> 00:42:33,919 for six months a year, for more than 13 years. 631 00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:42,637 This pool is known to a lot of local people as the "dynamite hole" 632 00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:46,173 because of the two, possibly three, humanly generations 633 00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:48,643 when dynamite was readily available, 634 00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:50,712 and no one else was up here. 635 00:42:50,736 --> 00:42:53,915 And it was used in this pool, 636 00:42:53,939 --> 00:42:57,752 possibly as much as two, sometimes three times a year. 637 00:42:57,776 --> 00:42:59,787 And, of course, for every dynamiting, there are 638 00:42:59,811 --> 00:43:05,259 probably 20 or 30 snaggings or nettings or you name it. 639 00:43:05,283 --> 00:43:08,046 To mess with fish that have passed through the 640 00:43:08,058 --> 00:43:10,665 gauntlet that these fish have gone through, 641 00:43:10,689 --> 00:43:16,662 after they're up here and home free, just seems like it's ridiculous to me. 642 00:43:20,799 --> 00:43:24,111 One of the things that never ceases to amaze me is, 643 00:43:24,135 --> 00:43:28,049 how curious these fish are about everything. 644 00:43:28,073 --> 00:43:32,720 I think the curiosity that I see possibly represents 645 00:43:32,744 --> 00:43:34,689 their feelings of vulnerability, 646 00:43:34,713 --> 00:43:36,357 of being in this pool. 647 00:43:36,381 --> 00:43:38,793 Which is, compared to the Pacific Ocean, a puddle. 648 00:43:38,817 --> 00:43:43,698 And they sometimes respond, idiosyncratically, to people. 649 00:43:43,722 --> 00:43:46,734 Some people put these fish in a conniption fit. 650 00:43:46,758 --> 00:43:50,137 Some people have very little effect on them whatsoever, 651 00:43:50,161 --> 00:43:52,707 and I'd be willing to be that these fish 652 00:43:52,731 --> 00:43:55,710 have as fine an appreciation of what's going on 653 00:43:55,734 --> 00:44:01,006 around this pool as I do and perhaps finer, probably finer, in a lot of ways. 654 00:44:07,045 --> 00:44:12,226 You know the things that have influenced me in life besides blind accident, 655 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:14,461 are things of great amusement. 656 00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:19,266 One of the more amusing stories I read about Steelhead fly fishing 657 00:44:19,290 --> 00:44:22,269 was by Gary Snyder, and he said something like, 658 00:44:22,293 --> 00:44:25,940 "Well, we started fly fishing on the Russian River for Steelhead 659 00:44:25,964 --> 00:44:29,010 Then we started taking the points off our hooks. 660 00:44:29,034 --> 00:44:31,641 Then we started taking the flies off our hooks 661 00:44:31,653 --> 00:44:34,115 and finally we just decided to go swimming. 662 00:44:34,139 --> 00:44:38,052 And that's... there's something very amusing about that, 663 00:44:38,076 --> 00:44:42,023 but very meaningful and true, too. 664 00:44:42,047 --> 00:44:45,893 I think I needed something to open my eyes 665 00:44:45,917 --> 00:44:52,057 to the beauty of the North Umpqua and these emblematic fish that run her. 666 00:45:01,099 --> 00:45:05,112 It would be nice to think that these fish know me, 667 00:45:05,136 --> 00:45:08,115 because I've been watching them and their parents now 668 00:45:08,139 --> 00:45:14,756 for 13 years but I think that I would just be playing a game with myself. 669 00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:20,427 Having Parkinson's has made me, to a certain degree, 670 00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:26,267 more aware of the fact that this will have to come to an end, 671 00:45:26,291 --> 00:45:29,828 perhaps sooner than I otherwise would have liked it to. 672 00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:37,178 It's wonderful to have an opportunity to do something 673 00:45:37,202 --> 00:45:42,917 as positive as this is, and as simple as this is. 674 00:45:42,941 --> 00:45:46,144 That is a great gift to me. 675 00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:54,095 Well, I sometimes wonder 676 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:58,866 what the final day will be like for me here. 677 00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:01,168 I think that someone will come along 678 00:46:01,192 --> 00:46:04,839 and continue to stay with these fish. 679 00:46:04,863 --> 00:46:06,440 Because one thing is clear: 680 00:46:06,464 --> 00:46:09,911 It's too easy to get here for there not to be 681 00:46:09,935 --> 00:46:13,180 a human presence here at all times from this point on. 682 00:46:13,204 --> 00:46:16,875 And there will be. I'm confident of that. 683 00:46:18,409 --> 00:46:23,357 Wild fish are the real deal. We still have them, thank God. 684 00:46:23,381 --> 00:46:26,961 And hopefully we always will. 685 00:46:26,985 --> 00:46:30,164 The great beauty of wild fish is we don't have to do 686 00:46:30,188 --> 00:46:35,093 a goddamn thing for them except leave them the hell alone. 687 00:47:08,126 --> 00:47:11,538 Listen up! Since they've been put through the chemical bath... 688 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:15,442 ...they are not fit for human consumption. So we can't eat them. 689 00:47:15,466 --> 00:47:18,880 They are going to be processed into fish fertilizer, 690 00:47:18,904 --> 00:47:21,182 like that stuff that maybe your folks put on the garden. 691 00:47:21,206 --> 00:47:26,453 You dump it out, it's really gross looking. It's super stinky, it makes stuff grow. 692 00:47:26,477 --> 00:47:28,222 They're big. 693 00:47:28,246 --> 00:47:29,223 They are big! 694 00:47:29,247 --> 00:47:31,592 GIRL 695 00:47:31,616 --> 00:47:34,352 No, no, no... That's not why we kill them. 696 00:47:58,977 --> 00:48:01,255 Just like their wild cousins, hatchery salmon 697 00:48:01,279 --> 00:48:05,026 sacrifice themselves for the next generation by returning home to spawn. 698 00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:07,261 But for these Columbia River hatchery fish, 699 00:48:07,285 --> 00:48:09,163 home is a government-run factory 700 00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:11,532 where they're beaten to death and artificially spawn 701 00:48:11,556 --> 00:48:14,525 to create a very expensive illusion of a salmon run. 702 00:48:16,494 --> 00:48:18,372 Historically, hatcheries have been used 703 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:20,607 as a way to justify 704 00:48:20,631 --> 00:48:23,945 trying to rebuild fish runs without actually dealing 705 00:48:23,969 --> 00:48:26,047 with the root causes of their decline. 706 00:48:26,071 --> 00:48:29,250 Sort of habitat change over fishing and dam construction. 707 00:48:29,274 --> 00:48:32,086 It's a lot easier, basically, to adopt the philosophy of, 708 00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:33,720 "Oh, we'll just make more fish." 709 00:48:33,744 --> 00:48:37,191 So I call it a type of a whack theory 710 00:48:37,215 --> 00:48:42,463 where the question is how many fish do people want to whack? 711 00:48:42,487 --> 00:48:45,099 And we'll try to produce those and bring them back. 712 00:48:45,123 --> 00:48:49,303 But that isn't the same as saving the salmon. 713 00:48:49,327 --> 00:48:52,073 Bonneville power rate pairs are saddled with 714 00:48:52,097 --> 00:48:54,141 an $800 million a year burden 715 00:48:54,165 --> 00:48:56,243 to fund the Columbia hatchery system. 716 00:48:56,267 --> 00:48:58,545 This is now the largest fishing wildlife program 717 00:48:58,569 --> 00:49:00,381 in the United States. 718 00:49:00,405 --> 00:49:02,749 We're spending a lot of money trying to get it right, 719 00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:08,146 but it's a business operation, and it's a big business. 720 00:49:09,647 --> 00:49:12,026 Hatchery fish tend to suck at life and equate 721 00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:14,695 to a bad return on investment for a handful of reasons. 722 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,332 And I don't think you have to be a fish biologist to understand why. 723 00:49:18,356 --> 00:49:20,767 If you're raised in a concrete pool with no predators, 724 00:49:20,791 --> 00:49:24,471 where delicious brown pellets mysteriously rain down from the sky, 725 00:49:24,495 --> 00:49:26,573 chances are you'll be pretty naive when you're flushed 726 00:49:26,597 --> 00:49:28,409 out of the tube into the real world. 727 00:49:28,433 --> 00:49:30,344 If you took a bunch of suburban kids 728 00:49:30,368 --> 00:49:32,046 and dropped them off in the middle of the Congo Jungle 729 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:33,580 and told them to walk to the coast, 730 00:49:33,604 --> 00:49:35,716 they're going to be not very well-suited 731 00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:37,051 to survive well in that habitat. 732 00:49:37,075 --> 00:49:40,521 They release millions and millions of smelts. 733 00:49:40,545 --> 00:49:44,391 Very, very few of them come back. Very few. 734 00:49:44,415 --> 00:49:47,761 They're no different than industrial agriculture. 735 00:49:47,785 --> 00:49:50,488 It's a disaster in the end. 736 00:49:53,224 --> 00:49:57,304 So it is true I was a critic of the BPA's fish programs 737 00:49:57,328 --> 00:50:00,574 and now I operate BPA's fish programs. 738 00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:04,078 We have hatchery legal obligations to provide 739 00:50:04,102 --> 00:50:06,313 hatchery production to support harvest. 740 00:50:06,337 --> 00:50:09,583 So the question is how do we do that in the smartest possible way 741 00:50:09,607 --> 00:50:12,519 so we're not impairing wild fish? 742 00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:15,589 That's an age old question we continue to address 743 00:50:15,613 --> 00:50:19,560 and try to resolve is where is that balance between providing 744 00:50:19,584 --> 00:50:22,563 hatchery stock that can be fished and harvested 745 00:50:22,587 --> 00:50:27,101 without harming the native population fish that are there. 746 00:50:27,125 --> 00:50:30,504 If you load up a stream with lots of hatchery fish 747 00:50:30,528 --> 00:50:33,274 the wild fish that are still in it can be out competed. 748 00:50:33,298 --> 00:50:35,376 If you look at, say, the rivers New England, 749 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,511 the fish farm escapees and hatchery fish 750 00:50:37,535 --> 00:50:41,082 outnumber the wild fish in their own rivers 100-to-1 or so. 751 00:50:41,106 --> 00:50:44,551 Anybody outnumbered 100-to-1 is going to have a hard time holding on. 752 00:50:44,575 --> 00:50:48,589 If we keep piling hatchery fish on top of these salmon recovery efforts, 753 00:50:48,613 --> 00:50:52,193 we're crippling our chances to really recover these systems. 754 00:50:52,217 --> 00:50:54,461 And the second problem is they tend to breed 755 00:50:54,485 --> 00:50:56,730 with the wild fish that are within that watershed 756 00:50:56,754 --> 00:50:59,600 and that's shown to reduce their ability to produce offspring. 757 00:50:59,624 --> 00:51:04,438 The wild fish are genetically diverse whereas a hatchery clone, 758 00:51:04,462 --> 00:51:07,208 it's a bunch of first cousins fucking first cousins. 759 00:51:07,232 --> 00:51:09,243 So you end up with a bunch of badeeps. 760 00:51:09,267 --> 00:51:12,713 They're immediately being inbred out of existence. 761 00:51:12,737 --> 00:51:17,284 It really is like trying to replace Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart 762 00:51:17,308 --> 00:51:19,553 with Yanni, Yanni and Yanni. 763 00:51:19,577 --> 00:51:21,588 No diversity. 764 00:51:21,612 --> 00:51:26,227 There is sort of this deep psychological need or desire 765 00:51:26,251 --> 00:51:29,563 to control nature and I think dams 766 00:51:29,587 --> 00:51:32,533 and hatcheries are the same things. 767 00:51:32,557 --> 00:51:35,369 The whole purpose of the $300 million Elwha Dam 768 00:51:35,393 --> 00:51:38,405 removal project was to restore wild fish runs. 769 00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:40,441 But instead of letting things happen naturally, 770 00:51:40,465 --> 00:51:43,544 16 million went to the Elwha Klallam tribe to build a new 771 00:51:43,568 --> 00:51:48,349 fish hatchery and start pumping the Elwha full of manufactured salmon and Steelhead. 772 00:51:48,373 --> 00:51:52,719 The one common element is to build the dam you gotta put a hatchery in. 773 00:51:52,743 --> 00:51:54,588 To take it out, we gotta put a hatchery in. 774 00:51:54,612 --> 00:51:58,259 Makes you kind of wonder what the real purpose behind 775 00:51:58,283 --> 00:51:59,526 the desire for hatcheries are, 776 00:51:59,550 --> 00:52:01,695 and if there's other reasons why they tend to be 777 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:07,601 very popular than the good of the fish. 778 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:12,497 I don't like to openly oppose something that the tribe has a right to do... 779 00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:16,867 ...but in this case I feel like they're making a mistake. 780 00:52:20,638 --> 00:52:25,352 We're here to celebrate the largest dam removal project in US history. 781 00:52:25,376 --> 00:52:28,555 An extraordinary opportunity to watch more than 100 miles 782 00:52:28,579 --> 00:52:33,494 of pristine wild salmon habitat return to its natural state 783 00:52:33,518 --> 00:52:36,663 as the Elwha reconnects with the sea for the first time 784 00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:38,365 in nearly a century. 785 00:52:38,389 --> 00:52:41,268 The wild salmon of the Pacific Ring of Fire, 786 00:52:41,292 --> 00:52:44,371 have evolved to repopulate themselves in watersheds 787 00:52:44,395 --> 00:52:49,876 devastated by volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, glaciers, landslides. 788 00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,814 They're been doing it successfully for millions of years. 789 00:52:53,838 --> 00:52:57,551 But because we've somehow lost our faith in Mother Nature, 790 00:52:57,575 --> 00:53:01,755 we're about to start releasing inbred, out of basin hatchery stocks 791 00:53:01,779 --> 00:53:03,490 into this newly restored habitat. 792 00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:07,761 Despite overwhelming evidence showing the presence of hatchery fish 793 00:53:07,785 --> 00:53:11,432 works as a powerful detriment to wild salmon recovery, 794 00:53:11,456 --> 00:53:16,937 we insist, once again, on helping the natural process. 795 00:53:16,961 --> 00:53:21,642 My wish that is that we could somehow find the patience 796 00:53:21,666 --> 00:53:26,313 and the faith to let Mother Nature do what she has always done. 797 00:53:26,337 --> 00:53:27,548 Thank you for your time. 798 00:53:42,853 --> 00:53:46,833 What do you think of people 799 00:53:46,857 --> 00:53:52,273 characterizing Floyd Dominy as an enemy of the environment? 800 00:53:52,297 --> 00:53:55,642 Bulldozer in front of you paving everything. 801 00:53:55,666 --> 00:53:57,878 How do you feel about that? 802 00:53:57,902 --> 00:54:01,282 I've changed the environment. Yes. 803 00:54:01,306 --> 00:54:04,442 But I've changed it for the benefit of man. 804 00:54:07,044 --> 00:54:10,457 It would be wrong to make a film about dams in the US 805 00:54:10,481 --> 00:54:13,059 and leave out the story of Glen Canyon. 806 00:54:13,083 --> 00:54:16,430 In the archeology profession, there's a very unromantic term 807 00:54:16,454 --> 00:54:18,899 used when the sole purpose of the job is to document 808 00:54:18,923 --> 00:54:23,961 cultural treasures before they are flooded by a dam. They call it salvage. 809 00:54:30,335 --> 00:54:33,127 It was the biggest single salvage project 810 00:54:33,139 --> 00:54:35,416 up to that point in American history. 811 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,521 It was the most thorough thing of its kind ever done at the time. 812 00:54:40,545 --> 00:54:43,757 I think by the end of 1958 when that picture was taken 813 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:45,025 where we're all standing there 814 00:54:45,049 --> 00:54:47,093 we all had a pretty good idea 815 00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:49,720 that this was really something very special. 816 00:54:51,422 --> 00:54:56,903 Glen Canyon Dam was authorized in April of 1956. 817 00:54:56,927 --> 00:54:58,772 Colorado's Storage Project Act. 818 00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:03,410 We didn't have to relocate any railroads. We didn't have to relocate any highways. 819 00:55:03,434 --> 00:55:06,680 We didn't have to build the barrier, dikes, 820 00:55:06,704 --> 00:55:11,818 around any little towns. There was nothing there. Nothing there. 821 00:55:11,842 --> 00:55:14,488 Did you ever meet Floyd Dominy? 822 00:55:14,512 --> 00:55:17,758 Oh, there we go. Yeah. 823 00:55:17,782 --> 00:55:21,061 No, I never met him. I'd have cut his balls off if I'd have met him. 824 00:55:21,085 --> 00:55:25,065 Or I'd have somebody else do it. 825 00:55:25,089 --> 00:55:28,034 Deceptively called a lake, Glen Canyon now rests 826 00:55:28,058 --> 00:55:31,472 under the second largest reservoir in the country that flooded it. 827 00:55:31,496 --> 00:55:35,075 Glen Canyon Dam was essentially a bank account for the Bureau of Reclamation, 828 00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:37,844 built to generate power that would fund other projects 829 00:55:37,868 --> 00:55:41,382 and provide water to cool and nearby coal fire power plant. 830 00:55:41,406 --> 00:55:45,986 An estimated 45 million tons of sediment is trapped behind the dam annually, 831 00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:49,055 starving the Grand Canyon's ecosystem downstream. 832 00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,459 Every year as Lake Powell evaporates under the desert sun 833 00:55:52,483 --> 00:55:54,495 and seeps into the porous sandstone, 834 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:56,997 8% of the Colorado River's flow disappears, 835 00:55:57,021 --> 00:55:59,800 one of many factors that contribute to the river 836 00:55:59,824 --> 00:56:02,936 commonly drying up before it reaches the gulf of California. 837 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,474 When construction began in 1957, two archeology teams 838 00:56:07,498 --> 00:56:09,643 began a five year push to document more than 839 00:56:09,667 --> 00:56:13,680 250 culturally significant sites in lower Glen Canyon. 840 00:56:13,704 --> 00:56:16,517 At the same time, a handful of devoted river runners 841 00:56:16,541 --> 00:56:20,745 began the process of saying goodbye to the place no one knew. 842 00:56:23,047 --> 00:56:26,693 The gates were going to close and we had to at least be 843 00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:29,796 finished with what was going to be flooded. 844 00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:32,899 It's going to go under but at least we're going to salvage it 845 00:56:32,923 --> 00:56:35,702 so we'll have the stuff and the records and the data 846 00:56:35,726 --> 00:56:39,573 so we can write books about it and we can make museum displays about it 847 00:56:39,597 --> 00:56:41,007 and we can have a dam. 848 00:56:41,031 --> 00:56:44,869 So we can run around on our boats. It's progress. 849 00:56:48,673 --> 00:56:52,453 Two guys and me, it seemed to be a pattern. 850 00:56:52,477 --> 00:56:56,122 One of them old enough to almost be my father and Tad, 851 00:56:56,146 --> 00:56:59,593 an old friend that I'd known since I was in high school, 852 00:56:59,617 --> 00:57:02,529 and one's a photographer and the other one knows 853 00:57:02,553 --> 00:57:05,932 the river very well, Frank. Just friends. 854 00:57:05,956 --> 00:57:09,936 None of this hanky panky. Nobody's trying to get laid 855 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,609 and nobody's... we're just all enchanted by what's around us. 856 00:57:15,633 --> 00:57:18,111 Why were you initially afraid of it? 857 00:57:18,135 --> 00:57:22,583 Because I didn't know how to swim. Because I'd never run a motorboat. 858 00:57:22,607 --> 00:57:25,018 Because I'd never camped out in my life. 859 00:57:25,042 --> 00:57:28,855 Once you get through being afraid of the country, 860 00:57:28,879 --> 00:57:31,825 it was a magical place. Forgotten canyon. 861 00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:34,027 That was the high point, I think. 862 00:57:34,051 --> 00:57:38,765 The people who walked away about 1,300. 1,310, maybe. 863 00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:41,201 They left the ashes in the fireplace. 864 00:57:41,225 --> 00:57:43,737 They left great big pots sitting on the surface 865 00:57:43,761 --> 00:57:45,772 with food remains still in them. 866 00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,074 There was a ladder that still went down into the Kiva, 867 00:57:48,098 --> 00:57:49,743 into the ceremonial chamber. 868 00:57:49,767 --> 00:57:52,879 They had just walked away. 1,000 years ago. 869 00:57:52,903 --> 00:57:56,282 Nobody's been here since. That doesn't happen very often. 870 00:57:56,306 --> 00:58:01,855 Well, I actually hear speaking in the wind sometimes. 871 00:58:01,879 --> 00:58:06,527 You go around the corner, well, everybody hears a whistle here and there, but no... 872 00:58:06,551 --> 00:58:08,228 I heard more than whistles. 873 00:58:08,252 --> 00:58:11,665 And I said, there's something queer about this place. 874 00:58:11,689 --> 00:58:14,067 Maybe it's scary. At first it was. 875 00:58:14,091 --> 00:58:17,571 And then I thought, no, I think there's just something 876 00:58:17,595 --> 00:58:22,142 here that's supposed to be part of me. 877 00:58:22,166 --> 00:58:26,279 Hundred-and-twenty-five side canyons, every one of them different. 878 00:58:26,303 --> 00:58:29,550 Every one of them with a personality of its own. 879 00:58:29,574 --> 00:58:33,286 We would go around a corner and spread out before us 880 00:58:33,310 --> 00:58:38,892 would be this incredible site that A: Nobody had ever seen before. 881 00:58:38,916 --> 00:58:40,861 B: Nobody had touched it. 882 00:58:40,885 --> 00:58:44,097 C: It was utterly an incredibly beautiful, 883 00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:45,932 everything was in the right positions, 884 00:58:45,956 --> 00:58:49,302 all the colors were perfect. 885 00:58:49,326 --> 00:58:52,606 All the senses came just flashing out. 886 00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:54,875 I could hear better, I could feel better. 887 00:58:54,899 --> 00:58:59,279 I could speak better, everything just amplified. 888 00:58:59,303 --> 00:59:03,016 What was it like to walk naked through Glen Canyon? 889 00:59:04,709 --> 00:59:07,120 Well, I'm sorry, but I can hardly explain that. 890 00:59:07,144 --> 00:59:12,149 It was just absolutely the most natural thing in the world. 891 01:00:05,235 --> 01:00:07,714 And this one I keep to myself. 892 01:00:07,738 --> 01:00:09,282 I never let this one out. 893 01:00:09,306 --> 01:00:12,677 I might decide to let you guys have it. 894 01:00:19,850 --> 01:00:22,286 You know, I never dream about it. 895 01:00:23,921 --> 01:00:27,868 It's because it's on my mind all day long, every day. 896 01:00:27,892 --> 01:00:29,703 There's no... 897 01:00:29,727 --> 01:00:32,997 I don't need to dream about it. I think about it all the time. 898 01:00:33,998 --> 01:00:36,000 What was lost? 899 01:00:37,301 --> 01:00:39,770 Eden. 900 01:00:42,406 --> 01:00:47,211 I don't think Eden could have touched Glen Canyon. 901 01:01:01,225 --> 01:01:04,270 We flooded out the rattlesnakes and the prairie dogs 902 01:01:04,294 --> 01:01:08,241 and a few deer and a beaver or two. 903 01:01:08,265 --> 01:01:11,878 That's all that was flooded out when we... and a lot of beauty. 904 01:01:11,902 --> 01:01:13,947 But we created a lot more beauty. 905 01:01:13,971 --> 01:01:17,250 And we made it available, which it wasn't before. 906 01:01:17,274 --> 01:01:22,723 We haven't destroyed the world. 907 01:01:22,747 --> 01:01:26,760 We've made it habitable for a lot more people. 908 01:01:26,784 --> 01:01:31,765 A young man not long ago said to me he said, 909 01:01:31,789 --> 01:01:36,336 "Are you a hero or a villain based on your record as 910 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,338 Commissioner of Reclamation?" 911 01:01:38,362 --> 01:01:41,975 I said, "I think I'm a hero or should be considered it by you 912 01:01:41,999 --> 01:01:45,345 because you wouldn't be here if it weren't for the development of the West 913 01:01:45,369 --> 01:01:48,205 sponsored by the Bureau of Reclamation. 914 01:01:50,941 --> 01:01:53,854 Possibly the most hypocritical sign in history 915 01:01:53,878 --> 01:01:57,223 is bolted to Glen Canyon Dam's most popular overlook. 916 01:01:57,247 --> 01:02:01,527 It warns that defacing natural features destroys our heritage. 917 01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:04,053 I can't at it without imagining Edward Abbey 918 01:02:04,065 --> 01:02:06,532 rolling over in his unmarked desert grave. 919 01:02:06,556 --> 01:02:10,303 If you've never heard of Ed, you might mane heard of his book, The Monkey Wrench Game, 920 01:02:10,327 --> 01:02:13,206 that inspired an environmental movement called Earth First. 921 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:16,810 His first act of civil disobedience just so happened to go down 922 01:02:16,834 --> 01:02:20,914 in Glen Canyon Dam, on March 21st, 1981. 923 01:02:20,938 --> 01:02:25,085 I think we are morally justified to resort whatever 924 01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:29,389 means are necessary in order to defend our land from destruction. 925 01:02:29,413 --> 01:02:35,328 Invasion. I see this as an invasion. 926 01:02:35,352 --> 01:02:39,432 These look like creatures from Mars to me. 927 01:02:39,456 --> 01:02:43,937 I feel no kinship with that fantastic structure over there. 928 01:02:43,961 --> 01:02:47,197 No sympathy with it whatsoever. 929 01:02:49,166 --> 01:02:52,212 Yeah, I would advocate sabotage. 930 01:02:52,236 --> 01:02:58,051 Subversion as a last resort when political means fail. 931 01:02:58,075 --> 01:03:03,356 When I had sent he plastic crack and when I saw pictures of it 932 01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:05,125 talking to people and brainstorming... 933 01:03:05,149 --> 01:03:07,060 How can we up this? 934 01:03:07,084 --> 01:03:09,996 Wouldn't it be cool if we could paint the crack? 935 01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:12,298 And it was clearly impossible on a damn like Glen Canyon. 936 01:03:12,322 --> 01:03:14,334 There's no way you could ever get away with it. 937 01:03:14,358 --> 01:03:17,494 But if we had a damn that was unguarded at night it would work. 938 01:03:21,331 --> 01:03:23,910 At the time, Earth First does a shirt. 939 01:03:23,934 --> 01:03:26,246 It's a hand with a wrench that says defend the wilderness. 940 01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:28,481 I was wearing that shirt out on the dam looking down 941 01:03:28,505 --> 01:03:30,984 over the edge with this kayak on the roof 942 01:03:31,008 --> 01:03:32,385 that says I'd rather be monkey wrenching. 943 01:03:32,409 --> 01:03:36,556 You just don't frickin' do that. 944 01:03:36,580 --> 01:03:39,392 At one point I looked over and there's a ranger 945 01:03:39,416 --> 01:03:44,064 looking at me with binoculars and I go, "Oh shit!" 946 01:03:44,088 --> 01:03:47,267 There's always a little period where you have butterflies, 947 01:03:47,291 --> 01:03:49,602 going, "Oh shit, are we going to do this?" 948 01:03:49,626 --> 01:03:52,238 It's ridiculous. 949 01:03:52,262 --> 01:03:54,640 Michael and his friends made history that night, 950 01:03:54,664 --> 01:03:57,477 leaving their mark on the 430 foot face. 951 01:03:57,501 --> 01:04:01,547 Photos of the crack were wired to newspapers across the country. 952 01:04:01,571 --> 01:04:05,051 The plan seemed flawless until it wasn't. 953 01:04:05,075 --> 01:04:08,922 And the same ranger who was at the dam, pulls up behind me. 954 01:04:08,946 --> 01:04:11,457 He says, "What's your name?" I say, Phil or something. I just made up a name. 955 01:04:11,481 --> 01:04:14,560 He's sort of beating around the bush, asking questions, 956 01:04:14,584 --> 01:04:17,030 finally he asked for ID and I said, sure, and then he goes, 957 01:04:17,054 --> 01:04:18,164 "Wait a minute, you said your name was Bill." 958 01:04:18,188 --> 01:04:19,465 This is a federal cop. 959 01:04:19,489 --> 01:04:21,567 He knows what he's doing. At that point I had been 960 01:04:21,591 --> 01:04:24,070 arrested a bunch for sitting in trees and locking my neck 961 01:04:24,094 --> 01:04:27,440 to corporate headquarters and chaining myself to bulldozers and you know. 962 01:04:27,464 --> 01:04:32,212 Was I nervous? I'm sure I was. Probably inside my shoes, my toes are going... 963 01:04:32,236 --> 01:04:33,546 Finally, he gets to the point where he says, 964 01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:36,349 "okay, look. I'm a fan of Ed Abbey's, I read the book," 965 01:04:36,373 --> 01:04:38,218 and I assume he meant the Monkey Wrench Gang. 966 01:04:38,242 --> 01:04:39,953 He said, "We had an incident out on the dam last night. 967 01:04:39,977 --> 01:04:41,521 If you anything about what happened out there..." 968 01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:43,389 Blah blah... three or four questions, 969 01:04:43,413 --> 01:04:47,084 I said "No, no, no." He said, "okay. Well, you're free to go." 970 01:04:48,685 --> 01:04:52,957 You know? I mean, I walked on that one. He had me. 971 01:04:55,592 --> 01:04:56,769 We did the Hetch Hetchy crack. 972 01:04:56,793 --> 01:04:59,005 Learned, kind of, how to do it and realized, 973 01:04:59,029 --> 01:05:01,407 "Oh, this is really cool. We need to do more of this." 974 01:05:01,431 --> 01:05:05,946 The Earth First group stayed around the area for a while. 975 01:05:05,970 --> 01:05:10,216 And then we got wind that they were going to do something up at the dam. 976 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,586 We put an extra ranger on duty that night. 977 01:05:13,610 --> 01:05:16,022 We drove up there that night, and that's the first time I saw it. 978 01:05:16,046 --> 01:05:19,583 I said, "Oh, this is right for a crack." 979 01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:25,966 Dropped my gear off, schlepped it all out over the fence, 980 01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:29,235 drove back down, parked the van, got on my bicycle, rode up there stashed it, 981 01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:32,472 Glines Canyon is near vertical. It's very steep. It's dark. 982 01:05:32,496 --> 01:05:36,109 It's a damp, slippery dam and a 200 foot abyss right below. 983 01:05:36,133 --> 01:05:39,145 So we've got this rope straight across here and I clipped my rappel rope 984 01:05:39,169 --> 01:05:42,582 into that, locked it off, five-gallon bucket of paint, hooked on my harness, 985 01:05:42,606 --> 01:05:45,485 and I hung off the edge of the dam and just let go. 986 01:05:45,509 --> 01:05:48,354 I remember this moment well. It was dynamic rope, not static. 987 01:05:48,378 --> 01:05:50,490 So it stretched a lot. It just went... 988 01:05:50,514 --> 01:05:52,292 At one point I was sure I was going to get busted. 989 01:05:52,316 --> 01:05:54,760 Everything was taped up to be quiet, but that bucket. 990 01:05:54,784 --> 01:05:57,763 When I jumped, that thing kind of swung and smacked into the side of the dam. 991 01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:00,300 It was just so loud and I was like, "Oh shit!" 992 01:06:00,324 --> 01:06:04,704 The guy who got through, painted a huge crack, 993 01:06:04,728 --> 01:06:08,408 and then off to the side he wrote, "Elwha be free!" 994 01:06:08,432 --> 01:06:12,512 I'd swing way over and I'd paint a bit with the roller and I'd go swinging back. 995 01:06:12,536 --> 01:06:14,414 I had a couple of moves, back and fourth, get going, 996 01:06:14,438 --> 01:06:16,316 get over there and paint a little bit more. 997 01:06:16,340 --> 01:06:18,718 My fingernails, my hair, my ears, my eyes I was covered in paint. 998 01:06:18,742 --> 01:06:24,157 So I finished the Be Free part, finished that, and I was out of paint. 999 01:06:24,181 --> 01:06:27,029 I've got "Elw Be Free!" And I was like, "No, I 1000 01:06:27,041 --> 01:06:29,729 can't! There's no way. I can't leave this." 1001 01:06:29,753 --> 01:06:32,732 Nothing worse than having a gigantic typo on a dam. 1002 01:06:32,756 --> 01:06:35,535 I just could not live with it. I just dropped everything, 1003 01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,670 left it all on top of the dam, ran up, grabbed my bike, 1004 01:06:37,694 --> 01:06:40,240 zipped down, jumped in the van. I had two quarts of paint. 1005 01:06:40,264 --> 01:06:42,342 Like a gray and a green or something. 1006 01:06:42,366 --> 01:06:44,610 Mixed them up really quick, changed the anchor, rappel down. 1007 01:06:44,634 --> 01:06:47,280 Dawn is really close. Somebody could show up at any minute. 1008 01:06:47,304 --> 01:06:50,483 And I'm making all this noise. Now I wasn't even being careful. I was just going for it. 1009 01:06:50,507 --> 01:06:53,243 If I'm busted, I'm busted. I want to have it finished. 1010 01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:07,700 It was a beautiful crack. The guy was an artist. There was no question of it. 1011 01:07:07,724 --> 01:07:11,804 And he did that all in one night. It was an amazing feat. 1012 01:07:11,828 --> 01:07:14,440 And he was interviewed recently. 1013 01:07:14,464 --> 01:07:17,077 Said he didn't want to be remembered for that, 1014 01:07:17,101 --> 01:07:21,681 but boy, I think he should. He should be. 1015 01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:28,278 I think that sort of woke up people to the fact that something had to be done. 1016 01:07:45,762 --> 01:07:49,742 Water is the same as the blood in our bodies. 1017 01:07:49,766 --> 01:07:52,578 Stagnation brings on death. 1018 01:07:52,602 --> 01:07:55,485 People who are in their last throes, the 1019 01:07:55,497 --> 01:07:58,684 blood is barely moving through their bodies. 1020 01:07:58,708 --> 01:08:01,421 There are parts of their bodies that there is no flow at all. 1021 01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:05,291 Rivers are regions with that same kind of stagnation. 1022 01:08:05,315 --> 01:08:07,493 When it's all slack water reservoirs, 1023 01:08:07,517 --> 01:08:13,499 its uses are really limited and it's not vibrantly alive. 1024 01:08:13,523 --> 01:08:15,958 As soon as the reservoirs were drained 1025 01:08:15,970 --> 01:08:18,538 the Elwha found its path of least resistance, 1026 01:08:18,562 --> 01:08:20,273 and carved a new river channel, 1027 01:08:20,297 --> 01:08:23,476 in the process revealing something long forgotten. 1028 01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:28,181 Preserved under a century of sediment were the remains of an old growth forest 1029 01:08:28,205 --> 01:08:31,384 that had been clear cut when the dams were built. 1030 01:08:31,408 --> 01:08:35,688 Almost instantaneously, the Elwha's watershed was coming back to life. 1031 01:08:35,712 --> 01:08:38,591 Just a year after the removal of the lower dam, 1032 01:08:38,615 --> 01:08:41,461 biologists were counting fish by the thousands in stretches 1033 01:08:41,485 --> 01:08:44,464 of the Elwha that hadn't seen a salmon in 99 years. 1034 01:08:44,488 --> 01:08:48,668 The beautiful thing about Salmon? They're incredibly resilient. 1035 01:08:48,692 --> 01:08:51,737 If you give them half a chance, they can come back in many ways. 1036 01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:55,575 But you have to give them at least that half a chance. 1037 01:08:55,599 --> 01:08:58,444 When Glines Canyon Dam is fully removed upstream, 1038 01:08:58,468 --> 01:09:01,647 Salmon and Steelhead 70 miles of new habitat, 1039 01:09:01,671 --> 01:09:04,484 reviving the flow of nutrients between the Pacific Ocean 1040 01:09:04,508 --> 01:09:08,221 and the mountains of Olympic National Park. 1041 01:09:08,245 --> 01:09:12,558 The science and engineering behind removing the Elwha Dams was totally experimental. 1042 01:09:12,582 --> 01:09:16,696 There's no handbook to consult because it's never been done before at this scale. 1043 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,764 In almost every case, the biggest hurdle 1044 01:09:18,788 --> 01:09:21,834 for dam removal engineers lies behind the dams. 1045 01:09:21,858 --> 01:09:23,736 Decades of silt, sand, gravel, and wood that should have 1046 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:29,209 been flushed naturally through a watershed has stockpiled in the reservoirs. 1047 01:09:29,233 --> 01:09:31,244 Different dams will last for different periods of time 1048 01:09:31,268 --> 01:09:33,746 based on how much sediment they trap coming down the river. 1049 01:09:33,770 --> 01:09:36,249 So when the reservoir fills with mud, 1050 01:09:36,273 --> 01:09:40,253 it's kind of outlived a lot of it's utility. 1051 01:09:40,277 --> 01:09:43,289 The plan at the Elwha was to chip away at the walls slowly, 1052 01:09:43,313 --> 01:09:46,592 releasing sediment through the watershed just a little at a time. 1053 01:09:46,616 --> 01:09:49,562 Massive plumes of silt could be seen reaching miles 1054 01:09:49,586 --> 01:09:51,531 under the ocean at the mouth of the Elwha, 1055 01:09:51,555 --> 01:09:53,566 restoring a coastline that had been eroded 1056 01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:55,401 to bare stone in places. 1057 01:09:55,425 --> 01:09:58,003 These natural sediment flows are insanely critical 1058 01:09:58,027 --> 01:10:00,773 to river habitats, wetlands, offshore environments, 1059 01:10:00,797 --> 01:10:07,780 and to protect coastal communities from storm surges and sea level rise. 1060 01:10:07,804 --> 01:10:12,485 Three hundred miles east of the Elwha, the second largest dam removal in US history 1061 01:10:12,509 --> 01:10:15,721 was already underway on Washington's White Salmon River. 1062 01:10:15,745 --> 01:10:18,858 The tributary to the Columbia River, the White Salmon was 1063 01:10:18,882 --> 01:10:23,863 once home to a vibrant salmon run before Condit Dam was built in 1913. 1064 01:10:23,887 --> 01:10:27,032 The White Salmon has since developed a reputation as a world class 1065 01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:31,704 whitewater destination in the stretches above the dam site. 1066 01:10:31,728 --> 01:10:36,476 In 1996, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission forced PacifiCorp, 1067 01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:40,813 the dam's owner, to either build an extremely expensive fish passage facility, 1068 01:10:40,837 --> 01:10:44,617 or to decommission the dam in order to meet environmental codes. 1069 01:10:44,641 --> 01:10:47,287 Knowing the dam's contribution to the power grid 1070 01:10:47,311 --> 01:10:49,555 could be replaced by as few as three windmills, 1071 01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:53,593 PacifiCorp chose to scrap Condit and save their ratepayers some money. 1072 01:10:53,617 --> 01:10:57,597 Before the removal process began, a not so subtle hint 1073 01:10:57,621 --> 01:11:01,691 was dropped that the river community was ready for Condit to be gone. 1074 01:11:18,808 --> 01:11:24,023 A year ago I was here at the White Salmon River 1075 01:11:24,047 --> 01:11:27,460 when the dam blew there was this moment 1076 01:11:27,484 --> 01:11:29,895 where there was the countdown 1077 01:11:29,919 --> 01:11:33,599 and there's this moment of silence. You're kind of wondering, 1078 01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:34,967 "Is it really going to happen?" 1079 01:11:34,991 --> 01:11:40,296 And then, you could feel the ground shake. 1080 01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:47,880 The plan to remove Condit was a little more aggressive than the Elwha. 1081 01:11:47,904 --> 01:11:52,452 It involved 800 pounds of dynamite stuffed into the end of a 90-foot tunnel 1082 01:11:52,476 --> 01:11:54,654 that had been drilled at the base of the dam. 1083 01:11:54,678 --> 01:11:57,423 The theory was that the weight of the reservoir would flush 1084 01:11:57,447 --> 01:11:59,525 a century worth of sediment through the tunnel 1085 01:11:59,549 --> 01:12:03,763 and downstream to the Columbia in one dramatic pulse. 1086 01:12:03,787 --> 01:12:06,866 Due to the concussive forces of the blast, 1087 01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:11,103 there was heightened level of nervousness, if you will. 1088 01:12:11,127 --> 01:12:14,440 There was the possibility of infiltration by folks 1089 01:12:14,464 --> 01:12:17,443 wanting to get a closer look; Video, etc. 1090 01:12:17,467 --> 01:12:21,046 It came as no surprise when we were denied permission to film the blast. 1091 01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:24,950 But I didn't want that little detail to get in the way of actually filming the blast. 1092 01:12:24,974 --> 01:12:27,853 A couple of days before, we scouted a hillside 1093 01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:30,690 with a good few of the dam and built a crappy camera blind 1094 01:12:30,714 --> 01:12:32,725 for me to hide in for 18 hours. 1095 01:12:32,749 --> 01:12:35,094 Blast day was unbelievably stressful. 1096 01:12:35,118 --> 01:12:37,397 If you've ever hid in the woods from a guy 1097 01:12:37,421 --> 01:12:39,632 with binoculars and a surveillance helicopter, 1098 01:12:39,656 --> 01:12:41,801 I'm sure you can totally relate. 1099 01:12:41,825 --> 01:12:44,637 At one point my mom called to tell me that she had read somewhere 1100 01:12:44,661 --> 01:12:46,972 that the explosion could make my ears bleed. 1101 01:12:46,996 --> 01:12:50,175 But luckily that thought had already crossed my mind at the hardware store. 1102 01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:54,747 When the helicopter finally cleared the area, everything was quiet. 1103 01:12:54,771 --> 01:12:57,407 And I knew the horn would come soon. 1104 01:13:57,767 --> 01:14:01,213 You know, you start on a project like this and it seems 1105 01:14:01,237 --> 01:14:04,917 so big and so insurmountable and it's just... 1106 01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:08,854 The forces against you are so intense and it feels like 1107 01:14:08,878 --> 01:14:14,193 many days that you're just never going to get there and we finally did it. 1108 01:14:14,217 --> 01:14:18,598 This is day that I've dreamed about for over a decade 1109 01:14:18,622 --> 01:14:23,636 and today is the day that we just get out to float down the river 1110 01:14:23,660 --> 01:14:25,960 and enjoy this place that we've all been 1111 01:14:25,972 --> 01:14:28,574 working so hard to restore for so many years. 1112 01:14:28,598 --> 01:14:32,669 ♪ Summer sailed in 1113 01:14:34,137 --> 01:14:37,974 ♪ Filled my mind you see 1114 01:14:39,643 --> 01:14:42,646 ♪ Coloring my skin 1115 01:14:45,782 --> 01:14:48,818 ♪ I must say 1116 01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:53,298 ♪ Saw my wings 1117 01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:56,569 ♪ With the bodies in the gutter ♪ 1118 01:14:56,593 --> 01:14:58,671 ♪ Feel my kiss 1119 01:14:58,695 --> 01:15:02,742 ♪ Not say the word 1120 01:15:02,766 --> 01:15:04,844 ♪ Knowing my hands 1121 01:15:04,868 --> 01:15:10,249 ♪ They'll shake like crazy.. 1122 01:15:12,942 --> 01:15:16,556 When I first started this and got involved in dam removal 1123 01:15:16,580 --> 01:15:18,090 and asked myself the question, 1124 01:15:18,114 --> 01:15:21,794 "What is it that makes a dam removal happen?" 1125 01:15:21,818 --> 01:15:26,766 And you might think that it's policies or politics or maybe 1126 01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:28,200 it's the guy with the plunger. 1127 01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:29,802 But when it comes down to it, 1128 01:15:29,826 --> 01:15:33,005 it's people who are passionate about the river. 1129 01:15:33,029 --> 01:15:35,608 And it's the people who are out there kayaking, 1130 01:15:35,632 --> 01:15:37,777 it's the people who are out there fishing, 1131 01:15:37,801 --> 01:15:41,180 it's the people who are out there just sitting on the banks of the river, 1132 01:15:41,204 --> 01:15:43,816 enjoying the place, and it's the passion of those 1133 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,210 individuals that makes it all real and makes it happen. 1134 01:15:51,948 --> 01:15:55,828 If you think of all the sort of resources that our descendants 1135 01:15:55,852 --> 01:15:58,263 are going to really value in say, 200 or 300 years, 1136 01:15:58,287 --> 01:16:02,167 and as a geologist I can think that long and not think that's too far out of line, 1137 01:16:02,191 --> 01:16:08,240 a resource that fends for itself, grows a huge source of proteins and omega 3s, 1138 01:16:08,264 --> 01:16:11,677 that then swims home so that you can harvest half of them, 1139 01:16:11,701 --> 01:16:16,248 you can take half of a salmon fishery, eat it, and they'll keep replacing themselves. 1140 01:16:16,272 --> 01:16:19,151 I mean, what kind of a gift is that? 1141 01:16:19,175 --> 01:16:22,054 What kind of a species throws that away? 1142 01:16:22,078 --> 01:16:24,256 And if we look towards feeding the world in the future, 1143 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:29,953 It's insanity to not try and recover salmon runs as far as we can. 1144 01:16:37,026 --> 01:16:40,640 We may have fueled the early industry in this country 1145 01:16:40,664 --> 01:16:42,274 and the industrial revolution in this country, 1146 01:16:42,298 --> 01:16:44,744 but we've wiped out our fisheries in the process. 1147 01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:48,147 So, just because a dam has been sitting in a river for 200 years 1148 01:16:48,171 --> 01:16:51,684 does not mean that it's going to stay there for the next 200. 1149 01:16:51,708 --> 01:16:55,387 The state of Maine has over 800 dams, many of them obsolete 1150 01:16:55,411 --> 01:16:59,759 and still causing a lot of harm to their watersheds two centuries later. 1151 01:16:59,783 --> 01:17:02,862 For most sea run fish, efforts to mandate these impacts 1152 01:17:02,886 --> 01:17:05,831 with fish ladders or elevators haven't solved the problem. 1153 01:17:05,855 --> 01:17:09,234 In 2010, the Penobscot River Restoration Trust came up 1154 01:17:09,258 --> 01:17:13,706 with a pretty wild idea: The trust raised $24 million and purchased 1155 01:17:13,730 --> 01:17:18,443 three dams on the Penobscot River from the local power company. 1156 01:17:18,467 --> 01:17:22,782 Here we are. As we sit here today we own three Penobscot Dams. 1157 01:17:22,806 --> 01:17:25,113 And it feels good to own three Penobscot Dams 1158 01:17:25,125 --> 01:17:27,243 knowing what we're going to do with them. 1159 01:17:40,189 --> 01:17:42,868 Charles Lindbergh said something pretty amazing. 1160 01:17:42,892 --> 01:17:48,874 He said, "If I have to choose between birds and airplanes. I choose birds." 1161 01:17:48,898 --> 01:17:54,113 To paraphrase: If I had to choose between electricity and fish, I'd choose fish. 1162 01:17:54,137 --> 01:17:58,483 The Atlantic Salmon Federation has called the Penobscot Project 1163 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:01,487 the best and perhaps the last chance of restoring 1164 01:18:01,499 --> 01:18:04,023 a major run of Atlantic Salmon in the US. 1165 01:18:04,047 --> 01:18:08,060 One thousand miles of habitat was reopened to migrating species 1166 01:18:08,084 --> 01:18:12,297 like salmon, sturgeon, American shad, river herring and eel. 1167 01:18:12,321 --> 01:18:17,903 Seeing the results of all this effort actually come to something 1168 01:18:17,927 --> 01:18:20,740 boiled with life which we had predicted it would 1169 01:18:20,764 --> 01:18:26,335 and actually see it happen... is awesome. 1170 01:18:55,364 --> 01:18:57,810 The most ambitious river restoration project 1171 01:18:57,834 --> 01:19:02,114 every proposed in the US is slated to begin in 2020 on the Klamath River, 1172 01:19:02,138 --> 01:19:06,485 which originates in Oregon and flows through California to the Pacific. 1173 01:19:06,509 --> 01:19:10,022 In a historic settlement, tribes, farmers, commercial fishermen, 1174 01:19:10,046 --> 01:19:14,493 and the owner of the Klamath Dams have all signed off on the billion dollar project. 1175 01:19:14,517 --> 01:19:17,062 But one significant hurdle remains. 1176 01:19:17,086 --> 01:19:20,966 It's now up to Congress to give the project final approval to move forward. 1177 01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:24,169 With no fish passage at all, before Klamath Dams 1178 01:19:24,193 --> 01:19:28,207 annihilated the third most productive salmon fishery in the lower 48, 1179 01:19:28,231 --> 01:19:30,782 and caused toxic algae blooms in the reservoirs 1180 01:19:30,794 --> 01:19:33,036 that have wreaked havoc on water quality. 1181 01:19:34,570 --> 01:19:38,550 Like all constructed things, dams have a finite lifetime. 1182 01:19:38,574 --> 01:19:41,553 It's not time to pull out every dam in the country. 1183 01:19:41,577 --> 01:19:43,989 It would be economically foolish. 1184 01:19:44,013 --> 01:19:47,259 But it would be just as foolish not to rethink every dam 1185 01:19:47,283 --> 01:19:49,461 in the country and try to decide, which are the ones 1186 01:19:49,485 --> 01:19:51,596 that actually still make sense in the 21st century? 1187 01:19:51,620 --> 01:19:54,900 And which are those that we can get more value both 1188 01:19:54,924 --> 01:19:58,203 economically, culturally, aesthetically, morally, 1189 01:19:58,227 --> 01:20:01,073 and ecologically out of a river system by sending it 1190 01:20:01,097 --> 01:20:04,233 part way back to a state that it was in naturally? 1191 01:20:16,980 --> 01:20:20,492 The history of thinking in the western world is radical ideas 1192 01:20:20,516 --> 01:20:23,128 eventually can become conventional 1193 01:20:23,152 --> 01:20:26,198 and a couple of decades ago it was radical in terms 1194 01:20:26,222 --> 01:20:28,000 of thinking you could take a dam out. 1195 01:20:28,024 --> 01:20:29,468 It was unthinkable. 1196 01:20:29,492 --> 01:20:32,996 Go back 50 years it was legitimately crazy talk. 1197 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,502 You know, the conversation has changed. 1198 01:20:43,206 --> 01:20:47,552 For the most part the era of dam building is a closed chapter in US history. 1199 01:20:47,576 --> 01:20:52,591 But as of 2014, the state of Alaska was rushing through the permitting process 1200 01:20:52,615 --> 01:20:56,095 to build a $5 billion dam on the Susitna River. 1201 01:20:56,119 --> 01:21:00,165 This pristine watershed drains a remote region south 1202 01:21:00,189 --> 01:21:02,534 of the Alaska range, near Denali National Park 1203 01:21:02,558 --> 01:21:06,538 and is home to one of the most productive king salmon runs in the state. 1204 01:21:06,562 --> 01:21:11,410 Many assumed Alaska was bluffing after abandoning the idea twice before, 1205 01:21:11,434 --> 01:21:17,082 but now they've sunk 165 million into the planning alone. 1206 01:21:17,106 --> 01:21:22,287 If the state succeeds, the 735-foot-high dam will be the second tallest 1207 01:21:22,311 --> 01:21:26,649 in the United States and flood a 42-mile wide wilderness corridor. 1208 01:21:29,485 --> 01:21:33,565 After Glen Canyon was flooded, David Brower of the Sierra Club wrote, 1209 01:21:33,589 --> 01:21:36,936 "Neither you nor I nor anyone else knew it well enough 1210 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,039 to insist that at all causes should endure. 1211 01:21:40,063 --> 01:21:43,232 When we began to find out, it was too late." 1212 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,545 In the words of Edward Abbey, 1213 01:21:46,569 --> 01:21:50,373 "Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul." 1214 01:21:53,076 --> 01:21:59,048 ♪ Shapes do melt until they're small ♪ 1215 01:22:04,087 --> 01:22:09,925 ♪ Looking down at scattered bones ♪ 1216 01:22:14,230 --> 01:22:16,241 ♪ I used to keep 1217 01:22:16,265 --> 01:22:21,204 ♪ A slender harp 1218 01:22:25,241 --> 01:22:30,413 ♪ Till they spread her ghost on ♪ 1219 01:22:48,631 --> 01:22:51,510 ♪ I pulled a trigger 1220 01:22:51,534 --> 01:22:55,671 ♪ By mistake 1221 01:22:59,608 --> 01:23:05,348 ♪ Flowered at the aftermath 1222 01:23:10,486 --> 01:23:16,659 ♪ Slowly recognize the scale 1223 01:23:20,663 --> 01:23:26,702 ♪ We will be ephemeral 1224 01:23:32,108 --> 01:23:37,080 ♪ We will be ephemeral 1225 01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:45,330 ♪ Fact isn't what you see 1226 01:23:45,354 --> 01:23:51,436 ♪ Not anymore what it used to be ♪ 1227 01:23:51,460 --> 01:23:56,208 ♪ Fact isn't what you see 1228 01:23:56,232 --> 01:24:01,237 ♪ Not anymore what it used to be ♪ 1229 01:24:19,855 --> 01:24:23,302 It was no small feat, someone or perhaps several people, 1230 01:24:23,326 --> 01:24:25,637 painted a giant pair of scissors on the face 1231 01:24:25,661 --> 01:24:28,740 of the 200-foot abandoned Matilija Dam near Ojai. 1232 01:24:28,764 --> 01:24:32,344 Ventura county owns the dam. They believe it was done last week. 1233 01:24:32,368 --> 01:24:34,313 Destroying the dam has been debated for years. 1234 01:24:34,337 --> 01:24:38,350 Officials say the graffiti sends a clear message some people really want it gone. 1235 01:24:38,374 --> 01:24:39,784 Yeah, it's probably time for this thing to come down. 1236 01:24:39,808 --> 01:24:41,620 It is time for this thing to come down, 1237 01:24:41,644 --> 01:24:43,288 we're just trying to figure out the best way to do it. 1238 01:24:43,312 --> 01:24:45,090 And heck, I'm sorry they ran out of time, 1239 01:24:45,114 --> 01:24:48,193 because we don't know where this stitch mark belongs on the other side. 1240 01:24:48,217 --> 01:24:50,795 It's such a peaceful demonstration. 1241 01:24:50,819 --> 01:24:53,389 I don't see any harm in the scissors. 1242 01:24:55,224 --> 01:24:58,137 My hat is off to the people that did it. 1243 01:24:58,161 --> 01:24:59,804 Officially, there was a crime committed 1244 01:24:59,828 --> 01:25:02,407 but does it rise to the level of sending people out? 1245 01:25:02,431 --> 01:25:05,810 No. There's better things to spend that kind of money on. 1246 01:25:05,834 --> 01:25:10,406 Near Ojai, Leo Stallworth, ABC 7 Eyewitness News. 1247 01:25:24,287 --> 01:25:29,568 ♪ You make my heart spin sorrow into silk ♪ 1248 01:25:29,592 --> 01:25:31,670 ♪ You make me sleep 1249 01:25:31,694 --> 01:25:35,807 ♪ Like a young child with warm milk ♪ 1250 01:25:35,831 --> 01:25:38,543 ♪ You held me tighter 1251 01:25:38,567 --> 01:25:41,413 ♪ When I pushed you away 1252 01:25:41,437 --> 01:25:43,848 ♪ You turn my sorrow into silk ♪ 1253 01:25:43,872 --> 01:25:47,410 ♪ You turn my sorrow 1254 01:25:58,754 --> 01:26:02,434 ♪ You make my heart spin 1255 01:26:02,458 --> 01:26:05,237 ♪ Sorrow into silk 1256 01:26:05,261 --> 01:26:10,409 ♪ You make me sleep like a young child with warm milk ♪ 1257 01:26:10,433 --> 01:26:13,745 ♪ You held me tighter 1258 01:26:13,769 --> 01:26:16,548 ♪ When I pushed you away 1259 01:26:16,572 --> 01:26:22,221 ♪ You turned the sorrow into silk, you turn my sorrow ♪ 1260 01:26:22,245 --> 01:26:25,490 ♪ Sorrow 1261 01:26:25,514 --> 01:26:27,992 ♪ Superb, superb 1262 01:26:28,016 --> 01:26:30,018 ♪ Sorrow 1263 01:26:33,889 --> 01:26:37,236 ♪ Sorrow 1264 01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:39,938 ♪ Superb, superb 1265 01:26:39,962 --> 01:26:43,842 ♪ Sorrow 1266 01:26:43,866 --> 01:26:46,878 Every canyon at each turn... 1267 01:26:46,902 --> 01:26:51,683 Oh, come... Oh, hi, I'm in the middle of an interview, dearie. 1268 01:26:51,707 --> 01:26:55,387 The town picnic? I don't fucking know, honey. 1269 01:26:55,411 --> 01:27:00,492 ♪ I'll make my heart spin sorrow into silk ♪ 1270 01:27:00,516 --> 01:27:05,930 ♪ I'll stay awake when you can't get to sleep ♪ 1271 01:27:05,954 --> 01:27:09,768 ♪ I promised myself 1272 01:27:09,792 --> 01:27:12,571 ♪ If I pushed you away... 1273 01:27:12,595 --> 01:27:15,574 One of your attorneys... Elmer. 1274 01:27:15,598 --> 01:27:18,877 He said, "With all this restoration you guys got going, 1275 01:27:18,901 --> 01:27:21,946 in the watershed and everything, you have invasive species up here? 1276 01:27:21,970 --> 01:27:23,472 I says, "Yeah." 1277 01:27:24,573 --> 01:27:26,285 "Well, what are they?" 1278 01:27:26,309 --> 01:27:28,744 "Well, we call 'em 'mite lice.'" 1279 01:27:29,978 --> 01:27:32,524 ♪ Sorrow 1280 01:27:32,548 --> 01:27:35,694 ♪ Superb, superb 1281 01:27:35,718 --> 01:27:38,363 ♪ Sorrow 1282 01:27:38,387 --> 01:27:41,400 ♪ Superb, superb 1283 01:27:41,424 --> 01:27:43,868 ♪ Sorrow 1284 01:27:43,892 --> 01:27:47,005 ♪ Superb, superb 1285 01:27:47,029 --> 01:27:50,533 ♪ Sorrow 114622

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