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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,084 --> 00:00:03,795 [audience applauding] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,174 Welcome the woman who reinvented the dress. 4 00:00:07,257 --> 00:00:08,592 [chuckles] Is that right? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:08,675 --> 00:00:10,302 She re-- reinvented the dress? 7 00:00:10,385 --> 00:00:11,887 -[Frank] Love it. -And bec-- 8 00:00:11,970 --> 00:00:14,097 -[laughter] -Frank's wearing one this morning. 9 00:00:14,973 --> 00:00:18,894 And became one of America's most successful businesswomen, 10 00:00:18,977 --> 00:00:20,395 Diane von Furstenberg. 11 00:00:20,479 --> 00:00:22,356 [audience applauding] 12 00:00:23,524 --> 00:00:24,608 [inaudible dialogue] 13 00:00:25,776 --> 00:00:27,277 Rein-- Reinvented the dress, 14 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:29,196 what do they, what do they, what do we mean by that? 15 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,990 I created what was called the wrap dress, 16 00:00:32,073 --> 00:00:34,201 and I wrapped America around. 17 00:00:34,284 --> 00:00:35,869 I mean, everybody had, I mean, 18 00:00:35,953 --> 00:00:38,956 you see those wrap dresses going up and down the streets. 19 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:40,499 How old were you at this time? Was that a-- 20 00:00:40,582 --> 00:00:42,209 -Twenty-two. -Twenty-two. 21 00:00:42,292 --> 00:00:45,128 The 22-year-old women that I know are cheerleaders, you know? 22 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:46,213 -They... -[audience laughs] 23 00:00:46,296 --> 00:00:47,965 Uh, and, and how do you, um... 24 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:50,551 how do you get to be a princess? 25 00:00:51,218 --> 00:00:53,095 Well, in my case, I married a prince. 26 00:00:53,178 --> 00:00:55,180 [audience laughs] 27 00:00:55,264 --> 00:00:56,348 Okay. 28 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:58,976 [Oprah Winfrey] My first impression of Diane von Furstenberg was, 29 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,271 "Now there's a woman." 30 00:01:02,354 --> 00:01:05,399 [♪ "Sisters Are Doin' It for Themselves" by Eurythmics & Aretha Franklin playing] 31 00:01:05,482 --> 00:01:08,652 [TV presenter 1] Diane von Furstenberg, a true feminist icon, 32 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,280 changed the face of fashion with a single wrap dress. 33 00:01:11,363 --> 00:01:13,448 [TV presenter 2] The wrap dress made Diane von Furstenberg 34 00:01:13,532 --> 00:01:16,118 a household name and a fashion tycoon. 35 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:19,580 Diane was one of the very first women 36 00:01:19,663 --> 00:01:23,500 who'd really broken through, uh, the glass ceiling in business. 37 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:28,881 DVF, those three letters as in, you know, logo, is known all over the world. 38 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:31,091 [speaker 1] What other brand can you think about 39 00:01:31,175 --> 00:01:33,802 that's had a dress that still sells 50 years later? 40 00:01:33,886 --> 00:01:37,598 But Diane is more than a fashion designer, she's an icon. 41 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:40,350 [Nathan Jenden] Diane blazed a trail, really. 42 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:42,519 Every woman's a woman in charge now. 43 00:01:42,603 --> 00:01:45,314 Every woman's on the go, and that's Diane. 44 00:01:46,481 --> 00:01:48,567 [Linda Bird Francke] She's without boundary. 45 00:01:49,234 --> 00:01:52,696 She loved to say that she was living a man's life, 46 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:55,115 but she did it in high heels. [chuckles] 47 00:01:55,199 --> 00:01:58,202 I think DVF is one of the youngest people that I've ever met. 48 00:01:58,285 --> 00:02:01,455 The first one on the dance floor, the last one at the party. 49 00:02:01,914 --> 00:02:06,585 [speaker 2] She is the sexiest woman I know. 50 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:09,379 [speaker 3] Sex was part of her brand. 51 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:12,299 [speaker 4] She's very unapologetic about who she is. 52 00:02:12,382 --> 00:02:14,968 Diane is very clever, you know, she's a hustler. 53 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:20,599 [Gloria Steinem] She wasn't trying to become the only woman in a male club. 54 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:24,478 She was changing the whole nature of the club. 55 00:02:25,395 --> 00:02:27,773 [Marc Jacobs] Sometimes what makes history 56 00:02:27,856 --> 00:02:31,276 is when you go against what you're told is okay to do. 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,904 And Diane had the strength to do it. 58 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:37,032 [Diane von Furstenberg] I made an enormous amount of money very quickly, 59 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:39,910 and then all of a sudden, woom, lost it all. 60 00:02:40,827 --> 00:02:42,579 [Anderson Cooper] If you look at her from afar, 61 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:45,249 you just see this successful person 62 00:02:45,332 --> 00:02:47,960 and you think, oh, maybe it's been really easy for her. 63 00:02:48,043 --> 00:02:51,338 But when you actually hear her story 64 00:02:51,421 --> 00:02:55,801 and where she came from, you realize it's hard-earned. 65 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:00,889 [speaker 5] She's a survivor. She never stopped. 66 00:03:00,973 --> 00:03:02,391 ♪ Here we come now ♪ 67 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:07,187 -♪ Sisters are doin' it for themselves ♪ -♪ We're doin' and we're doin' ♪ 68 00:03:07,271 --> 00:03:10,607 ♪ And we're doin' it, yeah ♪ 69 00:03:22,077 --> 00:03:23,120 [sighs] 70 00:03:24,329 --> 00:03:25,330 Yeah. 71 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:33,547 I don't understand why so many people do not embrace age. 72 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:36,383 [♪ gentle piano music playing] 73 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:40,721 I've always been attracted by wrinkles, you know? 74 00:03:41,138 --> 00:03:44,224 Age... age means living. 75 00:03:44,308 --> 00:03:46,268 You shouldn't say how old you are. 76 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:48,854 You should say, "How long have you lived?" 77 00:03:52,608 --> 00:03:55,027 ♪♪ 78 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:58,447 If you take all your wrinkles away, 79 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:02,159 you know, the map of your life is different. 80 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:10,417 I don't really want to erase anything from my life. 81 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:12,211 Alright. 82 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:14,296 ♪♪ 83 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:19,134 Okay, I'm gonna get dressed now. 84 00:04:22,971 --> 00:04:24,515 I've had a full life. 85 00:04:26,183 --> 00:04:30,270 I mean, I'm 76, I should be 300. 86 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:35,567 -[director] Okay. -[crew member] Rolling, rolling. 87 00:04:35,651 --> 00:04:37,361 [director] You know, Diane, you've led a life 88 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:38,987 where you have talked about 89 00:04:39,071 --> 00:04:40,656 sort of the adventures you've gone on 90 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:42,741 and then you've talked about the men you've been with. 91 00:04:42,824 --> 00:04:45,953 You haven't hidden behind a sort of persona 92 00:04:46,036 --> 00:04:49,748 that a lot of successful women feel they have to. 93 00:04:49,831 --> 00:04:50,958 Why? 94 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:54,211 Well, I mean, I could ask you the same question. 95 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:56,338 I mean, why do you have to hide? 96 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:58,215 Why? Why? 97 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,676 [director] Society makes you think about-- 98 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:04,555 Well, no, socie-- No, I, I-- Why do you have to hide? 99 00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:09,768 What my mother taught me is take responsibility of yourself. 100 00:05:09,852 --> 00:05:13,772 And so, I've taken the responsibility of all the things I've done. 101 00:05:13,856 --> 00:05:16,692 The only place to find your strength 102 00:05:16,775 --> 00:05:18,944 is by being true to yourself. 103 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:21,822 That's your only shelter. 104 00:05:22,698 --> 00:05:26,368 I think what defines me the most, really, 105 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:29,329 is the moment I was born. 106 00:05:29,413 --> 00:05:31,415 [crowd cheering] 107 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:33,458 [♪ light music playing] 108 00:05:36,712 --> 00:05:41,091 And you have to go back to the end of the war in Brussels. 109 00:05:44,052 --> 00:05:49,183 There was this young woman who had nothing but bone, 110 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:54,730 who was 22 years old in a desert of ashes. 111 00:05:56,315 --> 00:06:00,652 Eighteen months before I was born, my mother was in Auschwitz. 112 00:06:00,736 --> 00:06:02,946 ♪♪ 113 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:05,949 [Lily Halfin] You know, I was in the concentration camp 114 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:11,038 and I was very skinny and sick. 115 00:06:11,455 --> 00:06:16,043 When I come back, I was only 44 pounds. 116 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:19,713 [Diane] She survived the death camp. 117 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:24,676 Her parents could not believe that she was there alive. 118 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,137 And her mother fed her like a little bird, 119 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:29,890 every five minutes, a little bit food. 120 00:06:29,973 --> 00:06:33,810 And within six months, she had gained her, her normal weight. 121 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:39,399 Her fiancé, my father, came back from Switzerland. 122 00:06:40,442 --> 00:06:44,738 They planned to get married and the doctor said, 123 00:06:44,821 --> 00:06:47,658 "Yes, you can get married, but you cannot have a child." 124 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:52,955 [Lily] The doctor said to my husband, 125 00:06:53,038 --> 00:06:56,542 "Monsieur, it's very dangerous 126 00:06:56,625 --> 00:07:00,671 "if, if she... your wife has a baby, 127 00:07:01,630 --> 00:07:04,633 "um, because she's not in, uh, 128 00:07:05,008 --> 00:07:08,053 in a possibility to have a child." 129 00:07:09,805 --> 00:07:13,559 [Diane] The doctor said, "You, the mother, will not survive it 130 00:07:13,642 --> 00:07:15,811 and your child will not be normal." 131 00:07:16,311 --> 00:07:18,814 And sure enough, I was born nine months later. 132 00:07:19,565 --> 00:07:22,109 And in a sense, I was not normal. 133 00:07:22,192 --> 00:07:24,236 ♪♪ 134 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:26,864 [Lily] God send me Diane. 135 00:07:28,407 --> 00:07:29,408 It was a present. 136 00:07:33,203 --> 00:07:35,956 [Diane] Just the fact that I was born was a victory. 137 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:41,712 She used to say, "God saved me so that I can give you life. 138 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:46,175 "By giving you life, you gave me my life back. 139 00:07:46,675 --> 00:07:48,552 You are my torch of freedom." 140 00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:51,221 [♪ soft symphonic music playing] 141 00:07:55,934 --> 00:07:59,771 I usually don't come back to Brussels. 142 00:08:00,606 --> 00:08:03,942 I always feel sad in Brussels somehow. 143 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:08,197 Although I really love the fact that, 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,073 you know, I was born here, I'm Belgian. 145 00:08:11,074 --> 00:08:14,661 Every time I come back, I feel small again. 146 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:19,666 You know, my mother was very tough when I was a little girl. 147 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:22,544 She wanted me to be independent no matter what. 148 00:08:23,504 --> 00:08:25,964 She didn't want me to be a victim, 149 00:08:26,048 --> 00:08:29,885 never want me to be afraid, and she always pushed me. 150 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:33,680 I don't think my mother ever said, be careful. 151 00:08:34,973 --> 00:08:37,267 If I was afraid of the dark, 152 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:40,103 she would lock me in a dark closet. 153 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,814 Today she could go to jail for it. 154 00:08:42,898 --> 00:08:46,610 But she was right, because once you're in a dark closet, 155 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:48,403 it doesn't stay dark. 156 00:08:48,487 --> 00:08:51,323 And even if it did stay dark, why fear? 157 00:08:53,075 --> 00:08:55,911 She wanted to equip me 158 00:08:55,994 --> 00:08:59,623 in case I ever needed to live what she lived. 159 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:02,167 ♪♪ 160 00:09:02,251 --> 00:09:04,086 My mother was traumatized. 161 00:09:04,169 --> 00:09:06,630 So even though she didn't really show it to me, 162 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:09,883 you know, there was always behind closed door, 163 00:09:10,342 --> 00:09:14,054 I knew that, you know, she went back to a dark place. 164 00:09:15,264 --> 00:09:17,558 When I would come back from school, 165 00:09:17,641 --> 00:09:21,061 my first thing is, "How is my mother?" You know? 166 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,105 My mother was my concern. 167 00:09:23,188 --> 00:09:26,900 I was never a child, I was always a grown-up. 168 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:31,822 I had my mother's concern first, for sure. 169 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:36,660 Even as a little girl, I wanted to get out. 170 00:09:38,662 --> 00:09:42,082 It was always independence that excited me. 171 00:09:46,128 --> 00:09:50,132 And I remember feeling so different than everyone else. 172 00:09:51,008 --> 00:09:53,218 It's all got to do with my hair. 173 00:09:53,302 --> 00:09:56,972 Everybody in Belgium has blonde straight hair, 174 00:09:57,556 --> 00:10:00,559 and I have black curly hair. 175 00:10:01,059 --> 00:10:02,853 It's as stupid as that. 176 00:10:04,146 --> 00:10:07,024 I just had to run away to make my own life. 177 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,443 And besides, my mother left before I did. 178 00:10:11,737 --> 00:10:14,907 One day, I came back from school 179 00:10:15,324 --> 00:10:17,034 and, uh... 180 00:10:18,035 --> 00:10:19,953 there was a blue envelope 181 00:10:20,037 --> 00:10:22,247 addressed to my mother in the hallway. 182 00:10:23,248 --> 00:10:25,000 And I don't know what happened to me. 183 00:10:25,083 --> 00:10:26,877 And I opened the envelope. 184 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,173 It was a letter addressed to my mother from a man. 185 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:34,801 That man turned out to be, later... 186 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:40,265 her lover, and she ended up leaving my father for that man. 187 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:44,603 It was a divorce, like a war. 188 00:10:44,686 --> 00:10:47,648 I mean, it's... it was a big fight. 189 00:10:48,607 --> 00:10:50,400 [Diane] I never questioned my mother, 190 00:10:51,485 --> 00:10:54,154 I never judged her at all. 191 00:10:55,531 --> 00:10:58,492 And... I don't know why. 192 00:10:59,368 --> 00:11:01,828 I mean, I didn't think she didn't love me, 193 00:11:01,912 --> 00:11:05,791 but she just had... she just had to go. 194 00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:08,043 [♪ peppy saxophone music playing] 195 00:11:08,126 --> 00:11:11,046 I mean, I just saw it as freedom for everybody. 196 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:14,424 After the divorce, 197 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:18,679 my mother put me in boarding school in Switzerland. 198 00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:23,392 For me, being in boarding school was the best thing ever. 199 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:24,935 ♪♪ 200 00:11:25,018 --> 00:11:27,646 There was the excitement of being on my own 201 00:11:28,564 --> 00:11:29,940 and anything can happen. 202 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:34,027 The first year at boarding school, 203 00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:38,198 I fell in love and I had my first love with a boy. 204 00:11:39,241 --> 00:11:40,450 He was Persian. 205 00:11:40,534 --> 00:11:42,286 ♪♪ 206 00:11:43,328 --> 00:11:46,039 And then after that, I fell in love with a girl. 207 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:50,252 And it was passion, I loved her. 208 00:11:51,128 --> 00:11:54,715 And, uh, I kind of got expelled for that reason. 209 00:11:55,591 --> 00:11:59,344 Her sexual fluidity is, is sexy. 210 00:11:59,428 --> 00:12:01,555 [♪ Italian pop song playing] 211 00:12:03,974 --> 00:12:07,394 [Anh Duong] Diane is not afraid of her desires. 212 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:11,899 In our society, you know, women tend to be afraid of wanting too much, 213 00:12:11,982 --> 00:12:16,278 but Diane is not afraid to own her sexuality. 214 00:12:18,488 --> 00:12:21,700 [Diane] Very often you are in love with love. 215 00:12:25,037 --> 00:12:28,957 And when I was 18 I met Egon. 216 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,002 [♪ "Tuca Tuca" by Raffaella Carrà playing] 217 00:12:33,212 --> 00:12:36,089 ♪ Ah-ah, mi piaci ♪ 218 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:37,341 He was a prince. 219 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:38,592 ♪ Ah-ah-ah ♪ 220 00:12:38,675 --> 00:12:40,344 His mother was Agnelli, 221 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:42,846 the big car company in Europe. 222 00:12:43,847 --> 00:12:46,141 [Olivier Gelbsmann] Egon was very handsome 223 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:50,103 and the kindest man that I've ever met. 224 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:54,066 He liked to have fun, obviously, 225 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:56,902 and also liked Diane very much, 226 00:12:57,361 --> 00:12:58,612 and he like me also. 227 00:12:58,695 --> 00:13:00,280 [chuckles] 228 00:13:00,364 --> 00:13:02,574 [♪ "Tuca Tuca" continues] 229 00:13:03,075 --> 00:13:06,119 [Diane] Egon is the young prince 230 00:13:06,203 --> 00:13:08,830 that everybody wants to go out with. 231 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:13,627 And so, I was clearly invited with him. 232 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,383 So that was my first kind of touch with the jet set. 233 00:13:21,677 --> 00:13:26,390 He initiated me to that life. 234 00:13:27,683 --> 00:13:31,520 [Gioia Diliberto] Diane became part of a group of young people 235 00:13:31,603 --> 00:13:34,314 who were wealthy, and beautiful, 236 00:13:34,398 --> 00:13:37,943 and were following the social seasons around Europe. 237 00:13:38,777 --> 00:13:41,405 For a middle-class Jewish girl, 238 00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:45,158 it was not a natural entrée into the world 239 00:13:45,242 --> 00:13:48,120 of these moneyed aristocrats, 240 00:13:48,203 --> 00:13:50,998 but she managed to infiltrate them. 241 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:57,296 [Diane] Egon told me he loved me and I loved him. 242 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:01,717 He believed in me before anyone else. 243 00:14:02,134 --> 00:14:03,802 [♪ "Tuca Tuca" continues] 244 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:07,055 And when I was an awkward 18-year-old girl, 245 00:14:07,973 --> 00:14:11,226 he was instrumental in giving me confidence. 246 00:14:14,313 --> 00:14:16,231 But, you know, we were so young. 247 00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:19,067 So he had this life, I had my life. 248 00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:22,404 Egon went to America, 249 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,116 and I went to Paris. 250 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:29,661 [♪ mellow French song playing] 251 00:14:31,955 --> 00:14:34,082 ♪♪ 252 00:14:34,166 --> 00:14:38,837 I met this guy, Albert Koski, he was a photographer's agent. 253 00:14:39,671 --> 00:14:42,966 He had a house in the 16th arrondissement, 254 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:48,639 that was the center for models and photographers. 255 00:14:49,848 --> 00:14:52,392 So I started to work for him. 256 00:14:52,476 --> 00:14:56,980 My job was answering the phone and said that he wasn't there 257 00:14:57,064 --> 00:14:59,858 either to photographers he hadn't paid, 258 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:03,278 or to girls that he had been with the night before 259 00:15:03,362 --> 00:15:04,571 and he didn't wanna see. 260 00:15:05,697 --> 00:15:10,410 And, of course, as a young girl working with all these men, 261 00:15:10,494 --> 00:15:14,498 this one tried to, you know, lock you in a room. 262 00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:18,836 It's just part of life, you just kick them off, you know? 263 00:15:19,711 --> 00:15:22,673 [director] Was there ever a time that made you uncomfortable? 264 00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:24,299 No. No, no. 265 00:15:24,383 --> 00:15:26,260 I cannot say that... 266 00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:31,265 anyone has done anything that made me uncomfortable. 267 00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:35,561 I would never give anyone that much credit. 268 00:15:38,730 --> 00:15:40,107 [chuckles] 269 00:15:42,901 --> 00:15:47,614 On my 20th birthday, Egon invited me to Cortina. 270 00:15:49,199 --> 00:15:52,578 And that's where I met Angelo Ferretti. 271 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:57,833 Ferretti had a printing plant in Como, Italy. 272 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:02,296 He would make scarves for Gucci, Ferragamo, 273 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:05,132 all of the big... Valentino, whatever. 274 00:16:05,215 --> 00:16:07,801 And he said to me, "You should come 275 00:16:07,885 --> 00:16:10,429 and see where they make fashion." 276 00:16:11,763 --> 00:16:15,726 Ferretti also wanted very much to get me in his bed, 277 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:17,519 but I didn't. 278 00:16:17,603 --> 00:16:23,066 Anyway, it just so happened that I was there at that time, 279 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:25,319 and he had the idea of making 280 00:16:25,402 --> 00:16:28,113 printed T-shirts out of jersey. 281 00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:32,159 Then I thought, "Oh, there's something cute there. 282 00:16:32,242 --> 00:16:35,204 And I love the idea of these T-shirt dresses." 283 00:16:35,287 --> 00:16:39,208 So I started to stay late, you know, with a pattern maker 284 00:16:39,291 --> 00:16:41,668 and make a few samples here and there. 285 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:45,881 I was inspired by the little wrap top 286 00:16:45,964 --> 00:16:49,009 that the ballerinas used to wear. 287 00:16:49,718 --> 00:16:51,970 So that was the inspiration. 288 00:16:52,054 --> 00:16:56,808 So, first, it was a wrap top with a matching skirt. 289 00:16:57,226 --> 00:17:01,605 You know, it wasn't like, "Ooh, I wanna be a fashion designer." 290 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:05,442 No. I just thought, "Oh, I can make some samples 291 00:17:05,526 --> 00:17:06,985 that I will try to sell." 292 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:08,612 [birds chirping] 293 00:17:12,115 --> 00:17:15,702 -So that's the very first... top. -[assistant] That's the very first one. 294 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:18,539 -[assistant] Top, skirt. -And, and skirt. 295 00:17:19,081 --> 00:17:20,207 It came in the leopard 296 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:22,584 and then in some other prints, including this one. 297 00:17:22,668 --> 00:17:25,879 And so this was the first idea... 298 00:17:26,129 --> 00:17:28,465 -Mm-hmm. -...that took Diane to the wrap dress? 299 00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:30,175 -[assistant] Exactly. -[Nicolas Lor] Exactly. 300 00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:35,097 [Diane] I got a call from a young fashion curator in Brussels. 301 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:40,310 He wanted to do an exhibition on me and my dresses. 302 00:17:40,394 --> 00:17:41,520 [speaking Italian] 303 00:17:41,603 --> 00:17:44,606 I mean, it would've been incredibly pretentious... 304 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:46,984 -[chuckles] -...that I went into fashion 305 00:17:47,067 --> 00:17:50,404 because I wanted to create the uniform for freedom. 306 00:17:50,487 --> 00:17:51,488 [Nicolas] Mm. 307 00:17:51,572 --> 00:17:54,616 I mean, that would've been ridiculous. 308 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:58,287 I don't think that I had a vocation for fashion. 309 00:17:58,370 --> 00:18:02,082 -Mm-hmm. -I had a vocation to be a woman in charge, 310 00:18:02,165 --> 00:18:05,127 to be a free woman, that was my vocation. 311 00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:08,839 -[Nicolas] Anything could be-- -Fashion became a, a way to do it. 312 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:11,550 [♪ pensive music playing] 313 00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:16,597 The last thing I was thinking about is getting married. 314 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,931 I was so young. 315 00:18:18,015 --> 00:18:20,392 But then Egon gave me a ring, 316 00:18:20,976 --> 00:18:25,147 meaning that, you know, we would get married one day. 317 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:30,819 I continued to work, and then one day I fainted. 318 00:18:31,403 --> 00:18:33,071 People were looking at me and she said, 319 00:18:33,155 --> 00:18:34,781 "She's dead, she's dead." 320 00:18:34,865 --> 00:18:37,159 And I said, "No, I'm not dead." 321 00:18:37,242 --> 00:18:40,537 And I was not dead, but actually I was pregnant. 322 00:18:40,621 --> 00:18:42,706 ♪♪ 323 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:44,124 I was 22. 324 00:18:47,336 --> 00:18:49,463 And I could not believe it. 325 00:18:49,546 --> 00:18:53,008 I said, "This is terrible, this is not possible. 326 00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:55,469 "I cannot get married pregnant. 327 00:18:55,552 --> 00:18:59,306 "I mean, everyone is gonna think that I did it on purpose. 328 00:18:59,765 --> 00:19:01,975 "This little Jewish girl marrying a prince, 329 00:19:02,059 --> 00:19:05,437 there's no way, no way, I can't have the child." 330 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,107 And so I went back to Geneva to see my mother. 331 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:13,153 And I also went to see a doctor to see, you know... 332 00:19:13,695 --> 00:19:17,407 And my mother said, "Listen, he gave you a ring 333 00:19:17,491 --> 00:19:22,162 "and you talked about getting married one day. 334 00:19:22,246 --> 00:19:25,624 So whatever decision you make, you have to do together." 335 00:19:27,668 --> 00:19:28,669 Ah! 336 00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:33,090 And so it took me hours and hours to write a telegram 337 00:19:34,091 --> 00:19:38,303 to tell him that it was okay, I can handle everything. 338 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:41,515 And he sent me a telegram back saying, 339 00:19:42,099 --> 00:19:45,477 "Organized wedding, mid-July, Paris." 340 00:19:45,853 --> 00:19:49,064 [♪ soft piano music playing] 341 00:19:53,443 --> 00:19:57,698 Instead of hiding that I was pregnant, you know, I made a point. 342 00:19:59,032 --> 00:20:01,785 I'm pregnant, so I can't be completely in white. 343 00:20:01,869 --> 00:20:03,871 ♪♪ 344 00:20:07,416 --> 00:20:10,502 So I had a petticoat of all colors 345 00:20:10,586 --> 00:20:12,754 and a belt which was all colors, 346 00:20:12,838 --> 00:20:17,467 ribbon and a hat with all colored flowers. 347 00:20:19,011 --> 00:20:20,470 [director] A Jewish girl marrying-- 348 00:20:20,554 --> 00:20:22,431 A prince, a German prince. 349 00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:24,474 -[director] A German prince. -Yes. 350 00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:25,976 That's a big deal. 351 00:20:28,645 --> 00:20:32,983 On my side, you could say that my mother could have minded. 352 00:20:34,026 --> 00:20:36,570 She didn't... she loved Egon from day one. 353 00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:40,199 [guests cheering and whooping] 354 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:44,745 From his side, it was a little difficult 355 00:20:45,787 --> 00:20:48,540 to, ooh, to have Jewish blood. 356 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:51,710 ♪♪ 357 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:55,506 Egon's father came for the, for the ceremony, 358 00:20:55,589 --> 00:20:57,049 but not for the reception. 359 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,221 [Gioia] The night before the wedding at the rehearsal dinner, 360 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,932 he commented to a friend of Diane's, 361 00:21:05,015 --> 00:21:08,685 "I don't know why Egon is marrying this dark little Jewish girl." 362 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:13,148 He did used to call me and my brother little Jews 363 00:21:13,232 --> 00:21:15,317 in front of Lily. 364 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,819 I didn't experience it as anti-Semitic 365 00:21:17,903 --> 00:21:20,197 because I was like two years old or three years old. 366 00:21:20,656 --> 00:21:21,782 But in hindsight, 367 00:21:21,865 --> 00:21:24,660 I think it may have been a little bit aggressive 368 00:21:24,743 --> 00:21:26,203 towards my grandmother. 369 00:21:27,246 --> 00:21:29,498 [Tassilo von Furstenberg] I was named after my great-grandfather 370 00:21:29,581 --> 00:21:31,291 who was an Austrian aristocrat. 371 00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:35,629 And my great-- my great-grandmother was a Holocaust survivor, 372 00:21:35,712 --> 00:21:37,756 so it's always been talked about. 373 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,717 It's about my family that we've had this dynamic. 374 00:21:42,094 --> 00:21:44,221 We've had both the suffering and the oppressing. 375 00:21:44,805 --> 00:21:47,266 ♪♪ 376 00:21:48,809 --> 00:21:52,896 [Diane] My roots are Jewish, my mother paid for that. 377 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:54,439 She paid for that, 378 00:21:54,857 --> 00:21:56,650 but I was her revenge. 379 00:21:56,733 --> 00:21:57,985 [guests applauding] 380 00:22:00,487 --> 00:22:02,447 [♪ piano music playing] 381 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,747 When I went to the Furstenberg Castle, 382 00:22:10,831 --> 00:22:13,584 I thought, "Maybe they, they will poison me." 383 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:18,130 It was after lunch, and there may have been the remark 384 00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:21,466 that annoyed me, and I went on a walk. 385 00:22:22,009 --> 00:22:24,178 But I don't remember what annoyed me. 386 00:22:24,261 --> 00:22:27,723 What I remember is the conversation that I had 387 00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:29,474 with my unborn child. 388 00:22:29,892 --> 00:22:31,685 "We will show them. 389 00:22:32,269 --> 00:22:34,021 "We will show them. 390 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,273 We will show them." 391 00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:41,376 ♪♪ 392 00:22:43,238 --> 00:22:46,116 Egon was already in New York. 393 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,868 I wanted to take a boat 394 00:22:47,951 --> 00:22:49,411 to come to America. 395 00:22:49,494 --> 00:22:51,413 [ship horn blaring] 396 00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:53,874 I had this idea, you come to America, 397 00:22:53,957 --> 00:22:55,876 the boat, the Statue of Liberty. 398 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:57,711 So I didn't wanna fly 399 00:22:58,212 --> 00:23:00,714 because I wanted to think about my future. 400 00:23:00,797 --> 00:23:04,051 And then I had my little suitcase full of samples. 401 00:23:04,134 --> 00:23:07,221 [♪ "New York City Rhythm" by Barry Manilow playing] 402 00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:12,559 ♪ City rhythm, ooh ♪ 403 00:23:12,643 --> 00:23:14,436 ♪ City rhythm ♪ 404 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,565 When I arrived, New York is buzzing. 405 00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:25,030 There were so many artists, there was Hair on Broadway. 406 00:23:26,073 --> 00:23:27,741 Nudity on Broadway, 407 00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:31,703 I mean, it was just, oh, my God, talk about freedom. 408 00:23:31,787 --> 00:23:34,039 [engines roaring] 409 00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,460 It was the women's liberation, 410 00:23:38,544 --> 00:23:41,296 and Gloria Steinem, and all of that. 411 00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:46,218 And for me, it was like being in American movie. 412 00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:52,057 ♪ It's the New York City rhythm runnin' through my life ♪ 413 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:54,726 We go out every night. 414 00:23:55,477 --> 00:23:58,188 I mean, we'd go to cocktail parties, 415 00:23:58,272 --> 00:24:01,066 we'd go to dinner parties, we go to openings, 416 00:24:01,149 --> 00:24:03,193 we'd go to fashion shows. 417 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:07,239 There were all these young designers, 418 00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:11,869 Giorgio di Sant' Angelo who was making bodysuits, 419 00:24:13,203 --> 00:24:16,582 Halston who was making fluid silhouettes. 420 00:24:17,583 --> 00:24:21,420 Stephen Burrows, who made very body-conscience clothes. 421 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,842 You could find inexpensive things that were stylish 422 00:24:26,925 --> 00:24:29,636 because America was a much bigger country. 423 00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:36,393 So Egon, the young prince, he knew everybody. 424 00:24:37,311 --> 00:24:41,565 He arranged an appointment for me to show my dresses 425 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:42,900 to Diana Vreeland. 426 00:24:45,444 --> 00:24:50,240 Now, Diana Vreeland is the most intimidating person 427 00:24:50,324 --> 00:24:52,034 I have ever met in my life. 428 00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:56,413 So I, I go in with a big huge suitcase 429 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,124 and I start hanging the clothes. 430 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:05,547 All of a sudden she walks in with red nail polish, 431 00:25:05,631 --> 00:25:08,759 and red, red lipstick, and black, black hair. 432 00:25:09,635 --> 00:25:13,013 And she comes to me and she pushes my chin up. 433 00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:14,806 And she said, "Chin up, up!" 434 00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:17,226 And I thought, "Ooh, my God, where am I?" 435 00:25:18,977 --> 00:25:21,563 Two girls were modeling for her. 436 00:25:22,272 --> 00:25:24,608 They start to put the clothes on, 437 00:25:25,067 --> 00:25:28,278 and she looks at me and she said, "Aah, ooh, rah, rah." 438 00:25:28,362 --> 00:25:33,575 Before I know, I am pushed out the door, packing my luggage, 439 00:25:33,659 --> 00:25:36,537 not knowing what has happened to me at all. 440 00:25:37,621 --> 00:25:40,415 But she had an assistant who said, 441 00:25:40,958 --> 00:25:43,418 "I think she's gonna help you, I think she liked it." 442 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:46,129 Before I knew I had a company. 443 00:25:47,631 --> 00:25:49,049 She didn't come in with an idea. 444 00:25:49,132 --> 00:25:51,343 She came in with a package, with a product. 445 00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,846 She wasn't just a person with a dream. 446 00:25:54,513 --> 00:25:59,142 She came in with a whole thing digested, fixed, arranged. 447 00:26:00,853 --> 00:26:05,315 [Diane] I hired this salesman and he was a great salesman. 448 00:26:05,691 --> 00:26:09,570 And he pushed me, he sent me on the road. 449 00:26:11,530 --> 00:26:15,284 I would go to Pittsburgh, I would go to Oklahoma. 450 00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:17,202 I would go all over. 451 00:26:18,662 --> 00:26:21,123 I would go back and forth to the factory, 452 00:26:21,206 --> 00:26:23,208 but my orders were so small. 453 00:26:23,292 --> 00:26:25,961 And I would go to Ferretti, and he said, 454 00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:28,422 "I can't make these small orders." 455 00:26:28,505 --> 00:26:31,717 But I would cry and, "Please," and "Trust me." 456 00:26:33,218 --> 00:26:35,721 I work out of my dining room. 457 00:26:36,346 --> 00:26:39,766 I sell them, I do the invoice, I do everything. 458 00:26:41,018 --> 00:26:43,270 [Fran Lebowitz] It must have been incredibly hard for her. 459 00:26:43,729 --> 00:26:46,773 Women in the fashion business weren't designers, mostly, they were models. 460 00:26:46,857 --> 00:26:49,026 The fashion business in New York, 461 00:26:49,109 --> 00:26:51,862 it was very hard business and a, and a rough business. 462 00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,363 [car horns honking] 463 00:26:53,989 --> 00:26:57,117 [director] And, you didn't know anything about running a business? 464 00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:00,204 I didn't... I-I still don't. [chuckles] 465 00:27:00,287 --> 00:27:03,707 I, I, uh, I didn't know anything, I didn't know anything. 466 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:07,711 I was a new immigrant in America, 467 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:10,464 in a business that I knew nothing about, 468 00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:13,258 in a country that I knew very little about. 469 00:27:13,342 --> 00:27:16,136 Everything was new and I was inventing it. 470 00:27:16,345 --> 00:27:18,347 [♪ light, cheerful music playing] 471 00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:22,643 And I was also a new mother. 472 00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:27,940 Alex was born in '70 January. 473 00:27:28,023 --> 00:27:29,191 ♪♪ 474 00:27:35,656 --> 00:27:39,034 Tatiana was born in February '71. 475 00:27:39,493 --> 00:27:44,414 And I always compare her to the drop of oil in the vinaigrette. 476 00:27:44,665 --> 00:27:47,668 She made it happen, she made us a family. 477 00:27:48,001 --> 00:27:49,837 [director] When did you realize your mother 478 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,047 was not like every other mother? 479 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:56,218 Well, in a weird way, she is like any other mom. 480 00:27:56,635 --> 00:27:59,972 I mean, she certainly lived her best life, 481 00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:05,811 but that was secondary to, you know, the family and, and love, and... 482 00:28:06,436 --> 00:28:09,231 So I don't think that it was so much different 483 00:28:09,314 --> 00:28:12,943 than any other, sort of... Jewish mom. 484 00:28:15,988 --> 00:28:18,323 [Tatiana von Furstenberg] My mother and father were both very young 485 00:28:18,407 --> 00:28:19,658 when they had my brother and I. 486 00:28:20,409 --> 00:28:25,664 So they relied very heavily on the whole village 487 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:26,915 to raise us. 488 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,712 My grandmother, Lily, she took care of me like a mother would. 489 00:28:32,504 --> 00:28:36,633 She covered my mom so that my mother could be free to do her thing. 490 00:28:38,343 --> 00:28:40,762 My mom was, like, doing so much in her life 491 00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:43,640 between working and going out and being a young person. 492 00:28:43,724 --> 00:28:46,226 So my grandmother was more of just, like, a steady presence. 493 00:28:49,438 --> 00:28:52,649 Did my parents actually have time for family time? 494 00:28:53,275 --> 00:28:55,736 I wouldn't say they had the longest attention span. 495 00:28:57,946 --> 00:29:01,700 I don't know if you wanna use the word "neglected" or "free," 496 00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:05,245 but we were, like, not infantilized or cared for as children. 497 00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:08,040 Like, we cooked for ourselves, 498 00:29:08,123 --> 00:29:11,126 we traveled alone at a very young age. 499 00:29:13,295 --> 00:29:16,423 [Diane] Did I have enough time for them? Probably not. 500 00:29:16,507 --> 00:29:19,134 But, I-- I was... 501 00:29:19,218 --> 00:29:23,972 I mean, they were always in-inside me, you know? 502 00:29:24,056 --> 00:29:27,851 They were always inside me from the moment they were born. 503 00:29:31,063 --> 00:29:32,397 [host] All ready? 504 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,778 [Diane] And then I had a husband who was hard to follow. 505 00:29:38,237 --> 00:29:39,738 [host] Here we are, Prince von Furstenberg 506 00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:42,699 and what brings you out to another star-studded celebrity night? 507 00:29:43,325 --> 00:29:44,701 Just came back, I can't answer you. 508 00:29:44,785 --> 00:29:46,870 -[host] Where have you been? -I was in Italy. 509 00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:48,455 [host] Okay, alright, thank you. 510 00:29:48,539 --> 00:29:50,916 Prince von Furstenberg, one of the other glittering stars 511 00:29:50,999 --> 00:29:52,543 that are making this night at the Rainbow Room, 512 00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:54,419 one to remember. [clicks tongue] 513 00:29:55,045 --> 00:29:59,216 [Bob Colacello] Egon and Diane, they were like this "it" couple. 514 00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:05,055 They exuded this glamour and this sexiness, this sensuality. 515 00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:07,683 It's more like they strutted into the room. 516 00:30:07,766 --> 00:30:11,520 They announced themselves just by their body movements. 517 00:30:12,771 --> 00:30:16,358 And Egon was a very sexy, somewhat decadent guy. 518 00:30:17,484 --> 00:30:20,779 He was very outgoing, very seductive. 519 00:30:21,488 --> 00:30:24,658 He sort of had the attitude that everybody wanted to sleep with him... 520 00:30:24,741 --> 00:30:27,119 [laughs] ...male, female, and whatever. 521 00:30:28,829 --> 00:30:32,958 He just exuded this kind of romantic confidence, let's say. 522 00:30:34,668 --> 00:30:38,088 Egon was this very attractive husband 523 00:30:38,172 --> 00:30:40,799 who was very promiscuous 524 00:30:40,883 --> 00:30:45,304 at a time that it was very hip to be promiscuous. 525 00:30:45,929 --> 00:30:48,307 Egon to me, would be the perfect husband. 526 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:50,058 I loved him. 527 00:30:51,059 --> 00:30:52,686 He was known for being decadent 528 00:30:52,769 --> 00:30:55,606 in an environment where you had to be outstanding 529 00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:57,107 in that field to be known for that. 530 00:30:58,025 --> 00:31:00,611 [Gigi Williams] If I could find a gay man to fall in love with, 531 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:04,907 who was that powerful and allowed me to be who I am, 532 00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:06,491 boy, I'd fall for him in a second. 533 00:31:07,868 --> 00:31:10,913 [Diane] It was a lot of going out, a lot of noise, 534 00:31:10,996 --> 00:31:12,372 and a lot of parties. 535 00:31:13,665 --> 00:31:16,376 I don't know how I did it, I don't know how I did it. 536 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:18,962 Two small children, I mean, really, 537 00:31:19,046 --> 00:31:21,298 I mean, my children are 13 months apart. 538 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,010 And then this one thing that changed it. 539 00:31:26,428 --> 00:31:31,558 New York Magazine was a very, very hot magazine. 540 00:31:31,642 --> 00:31:36,730 The editor-in-chief commissions a 10-page cover story 541 00:31:36,813 --> 00:31:38,774 on me and Egon. 542 00:31:40,150 --> 00:31:42,569 [Linda] And I went up to their apartment. 543 00:31:42,653 --> 00:31:46,406 They were very, very nice, very charming. 544 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:49,535 Diane was so exotic. 545 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,665 She was then saying all the things that she would say now, 546 00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:56,917 a woman needing independence 547 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,962 and, uh, wanting to make her own way, 548 00:32:00,045 --> 00:32:01,672 so I liked her a lot. 549 00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:04,132 But Prince Egon, 550 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,386 and I think the word "prince" has to come in here 551 00:32:07,469 --> 00:32:12,349 because he was arrogant, he was condescending, 552 00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:16,144 he was filled with entitlement. 553 00:32:16,228 --> 00:32:18,689 Just wanted to go whack. [laughs] 554 00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:23,110 [director] Can I quote from the article? 555 00:32:24,611 --> 00:32:27,072 Yeah, you can do whatever you want, you're the director. 556 00:32:27,155 --> 00:32:28,657 You absolutely want this angle? 557 00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:29,992 [cameraman] Uh, many, many angles. 558 00:32:30,075 --> 00:32:31,410 [laughs] 559 00:32:32,411 --> 00:32:35,330 [director] "Egon admits that were he to meet an attractive man, 560 00:32:35,414 --> 00:32:37,207 "he would not loath to experiment, 561 00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:39,042 but Diane is not so sure." 562 00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:42,337 [♪ pensive music playing] 563 00:32:44,089 --> 00:32:48,135 [Diane] Egon was difficult to be married with, 564 00:32:48,218 --> 00:32:50,345 he was so much of a flirt. 565 00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:55,934 I realize that I'm a person, not a couple, 566 00:32:56,977 --> 00:33:00,063 and therefore I can't be married anymore. 567 00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:05,986 [Gioia] I don't think she was embarrassed by the sex at all. 568 00:33:06,612 --> 00:33:11,200 That was part of their persona as ultra sophisticates. 569 00:33:12,034 --> 00:33:14,786 I think it was just the entire picture. 570 00:33:15,537 --> 00:33:17,456 [Linda] From New York Magazine's point of view, 571 00:33:17,539 --> 00:33:19,333 they were Eurotrash. 572 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:23,921 There's a line that she went back to Europe 573 00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:27,925 and brought back some little fluffy things to sell. 574 00:33:29,384 --> 00:33:31,720 [Gioia] Even though she was this businesswoman, 575 00:33:31,803 --> 00:33:34,973 the only thing anybody saw was the princess. 576 00:33:35,891 --> 00:33:40,020 [Diane] They were looking at me like this, you know, Park Avenue princess. 577 00:33:40,437 --> 00:33:42,731 I didn't like the, necessarily that image. 578 00:33:42,814 --> 00:33:46,443 I'd rather be an Amazon on a horse. 579 00:33:49,446 --> 00:33:51,615 Divorce for me was freedom. 580 00:33:52,658 --> 00:33:55,202 I mean, the common thread in my life 581 00:33:55,285 --> 00:33:57,329 has always been freedom. 582 00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:02,084 [Tatiana] I think my parents' marriage was not great. 583 00:34:02,167 --> 00:34:05,712 I think she had a lot of, like, feelings that she didn't wanna put onto me 584 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,424 because she'd been holding it together for us the whole time. 585 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,679 I think, you know, growing up with a very young single mom is just like that. 586 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:16,473 ♪♪ 587 00:34:16,557 --> 00:34:19,142 [Olivier] The princess story did not last very long. 588 00:34:19,226 --> 00:34:20,269 [Olivier laughs] 589 00:34:20,352 --> 00:34:22,688 She's very practical, so, you know, 590 00:34:22,771 --> 00:34:25,607 to be a princess meant what exactly, you know? 591 00:34:25,691 --> 00:34:28,151 And then she became a business woman, you know? 592 00:34:28,235 --> 00:34:31,071 So, certainly became more DVF, you know? 593 00:34:31,154 --> 00:34:32,197 [chuckles] 594 00:34:33,073 --> 00:34:35,284 [Diane] I became the woman I wanted to be. 595 00:34:36,785 --> 00:34:38,579 I was in charge of my destiny. 596 00:34:38,662 --> 00:34:39,997 I was in charge of my children, 597 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,999 I was in charge of my life, 598 00:34:42,082 --> 00:34:43,500 I was in charge of my business. 599 00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:45,502 I was a woman in charge. 600 00:34:45,711 --> 00:34:48,630 [♪ mellow music playing] 601 00:34:53,844 --> 00:34:56,096 ♪♪ 602 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,103 [♪ music fades] 603 00:35:05,898 --> 00:35:07,900 Hi, have you found anything? 604 00:35:08,233 --> 00:35:10,027 -[assistant 1] Hmm? -[Diane] Have you found anything? 605 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:12,154 -[assistant 2] We found a lot. -[assistant 1] We found a lot. 606 00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:13,697 [Diane] [clears throat] Okay. 607 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:17,659 Alright, so, the original-- 608 00:35:17,743 --> 00:35:20,704 So wh-which is the one, is this the one they needed? 609 00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:21,788 [assistant 2] This is '70s? 610 00:35:21,872 --> 00:35:23,582 So that's one that he chose for the '70s. 611 00:35:23,665 --> 00:35:29,087 I mean, this is, this is, this is, this is 50 years old. 612 00:35:29,171 --> 00:35:32,466 This is a wrap dress that I love, by the way. 613 00:35:34,176 --> 00:35:37,262 [director] Diane let's go back to the dress, the wrap dress, 614 00:35:37,346 --> 00:35:39,556 what inspired that design? 615 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,433 -[helicopter blades whirring] -[people clamoring] 616 00:35:41,517 --> 00:35:46,396 [Diane] In 1973, Nixon was in trouble. 617 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,107 [clamoring] 618 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:55,030 I condemn any attempts to cover up in this case, 619 00:35:55,447 --> 00:35:57,783 no matter who is involved. 620 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,205 [Diane] One day on television I saw Nixon's daughter 621 00:36:03,288 --> 00:36:05,374 defending her father. 622 00:36:06,834 --> 00:36:09,628 She was wearing my little wrap top 623 00:36:10,295 --> 00:36:11,964 with a matching skirt. 624 00:36:12,047 --> 00:36:16,885 And I thought, "Oh, my God, maybe I should turn it into a dress." 625 00:36:17,427 --> 00:36:19,972 That's when it all clicked. 626 00:36:21,598 --> 00:36:25,644 I wanted to make a little announcement in Women's Wear Daily. 627 00:36:26,311 --> 00:36:30,649 So I hired a photographer to take a picture of me in my dress. 628 00:36:30,732 --> 00:36:33,527 When the picture came, I liked the picture, 629 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,363 but the white cube was so big. 630 00:36:36,446 --> 00:36:39,658 So I said, "I need to write something on the cube." 631 00:36:40,284 --> 00:36:43,704 I wrote, "Feel like a woman, wear a dress." 632 00:36:44,454 --> 00:36:46,623 And I signed, Diane von Furstenberg. 633 00:36:46,707 --> 00:36:49,501 And that dress became... 634 00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:53,088 a, a phenomenon, a success. 635 00:36:53,172 --> 00:36:55,299 It became crazy. 636 00:36:56,091 --> 00:36:59,219 [Gioia] The wrap dress was the go-to garment. 637 00:36:59,303 --> 00:37:01,096 Everybody I knew had one. 638 00:37:02,055 --> 00:37:06,977 It seemed to epitomize a modern, independent, 639 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:10,105 sexy woman who could have it all. 640 00:37:10,898 --> 00:37:13,609 [Oprah] I remember being a young reporter, 641 00:37:13,692 --> 00:37:17,029 saving up for a Diane von Furstenberg wrap dress. 642 00:37:17,112 --> 00:37:21,491 It was such a status symbol to have one of those dresses. 643 00:37:22,367 --> 00:37:25,454 [Vanessa Friedman] This dress empowered a giant swath of women 644 00:37:25,537 --> 00:37:27,122 who could actually afford to wear it. 645 00:37:27,206 --> 00:37:30,167 Which, you know, let's be honest, is not true of most high fashion. 646 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:33,212 Right? Like, most high fashion kind of exists over here. 647 00:37:33,295 --> 00:37:36,048 And Diane's dress exists in the middle of the history 648 00:37:36,131 --> 00:37:38,175 of women's rights and women in the workforce 649 00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:42,012 and women kind of finding their own voice. 650 00:37:42,763 --> 00:37:44,181 [Gioia] Women in the '70s were told, 651 00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:46,099 if you wanted to be taken seriously, 652 00:37:46,183 --> 00:37:48,227 you had to tamp down your sexuality. 653 00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:51,772 You had to wear a suit that looked like a man's suit 654 00:37:51,855 --> 00:37:54,733 and you had to make yourself as unfeminine as possible. 655 00:37:55,484 --> 00:37:59,321 Formfitting wrap dresses were exactly opposite of that. 656 00:37:59,947 --> 00:38:01,907 [interviewee] She knows what a woman is like. 657 00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:03,825 She knows what her dimensions are. 658 00:38:03,909 --> 00:38:06,662 You know, just nice soft dresses, soft designs. 659 00:38:06,745 --> 00:38:10,290 I own about a half a dozen of 'em I want you to know, and they're all fine. 660 00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:14,336 [Diane] It was an $86 dress, that-that's the prize then. 661 00:38:14,419 --> 00:38:17,714 So it became the first dress for so many people 662 00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:20,717 for the first job, for the first interview, 663 00:38:20,801 --> 00:38:22,344 for the first prom. 664 00:38:22,553 --> 00:38:23,929 In no time at all, 665 00:38:24,012 --> 00:38:28,141 I was making 25,000 dresses a week. 666 00:38:28,225 --> 00:38:30,435 That's 50,000 sleeves. 667 00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:34,815 [Hillary Rodham Clinton] It's odd to think that a single dress 668 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,609 could have made that kind of impact. 669 00:38:37,693 --> 00:38:39,403 But I was there and it did. 670 00:38:39,486 --> 00:38:42,906 I mean, it had a huge reverberation. 671 00:38:44,283 --> 00:38:49,454 [Diane] At the age of 28, I was on the cover of Newsweek. 672 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:52,082 [Fran] Newsweek went all over the country. 673 00:38:52,165 --> 00:38:55,419 So, you know, it's very likely that, you know, someone in Kansas or something 674 00:38:55,502 --> 00:38:58,922 sees that, she thinks, "I could wear that. 675 00:38:59,006 --> 00:39:00,465 "I could wear that, 676 00:39:00,549 --> 00:39:04,011 and also, I'm kind-- I would kinda then be like Diane." 677 00:39:04,094 --> 00:39:06,638 Of course, that's not true, but people believe that. 678 00:39:06,722 --> 00:39:08,682 And that is how you have a giant success. 679 00:39:08,765 --> 00:39:12,352 [camera shutter clicking] 680 00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:17,524 -[photographer] Great. -Okay. 681 00:39:17,608 --> 00:39:18,817 [photographer] Amazing. 682 00:39:18,901 --> 00:39:19,902 [crew member] Oops. 683 00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:22,070 -[Diane] There it is. Okay. -[photographer] Thank you very much. 684 00:39:22,154 --> 00:39:23,155 [Diane] Thank you. 685 00:39:28,452 --> 00:39:29,453 [Diane] Merci. 686 00:39:38,879 --> 00:39:40,797 [indistinct chatter] 687 00:39:54,728 --> 00:39:57,439 "You should remember the woman, not the dress." 688 00:39:57,523 --> 00:40:00,484 [♪ peppy music playing] 689 00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:12,204 [Marc] Diane was one of the first influencers. 690 00:40:13,497 --> 00:40:17,376 An influencer today, whether they're doing makeup tutorials 691 00:40:17,459 --> 00:40:19,169 or whatever it is that they're doing, 692 00:40:19,253 --> 00:40:23,590 it's like their audience is tuning in to them, 693 00:40:23,674 --> 00:40:26,468 and buying what they use, 694 00:40:26,552 --> 00:40:28,220 and what they say is good, you know? 695 00:40:28,303 --> 00:40:30,597 Like, so absolutely she did that first. 696 00:40:30,681 --> 00:40:32,182 [interviewer] What does glamorous mean? 697 00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:33,892 -What does glamorous mean? -[interviewer] Yeah. 698 00:40:33,976 --> 00:40:37,062 Uh... Well, I guess shiny, no? 699 00:40:37,145 --> 00:40:40,399 Isn't that glamour, very sparkly and shiny? 700 00:40:40,482 --> 00:40:43,318 [Gigi] Diane and I would put out a notice at shopping malls, 701 00:40:44,236 --> 00:40:46,321 and all these women would show up. 702 00:40:46,405 --> 00:40:48,907 Hello, it's very nice to be here 703 00:40:48,991 --> 00:40:50,993 and I'm delighted to have such a big crowd. 704 00:40:51,076 --> 00:40:54,621 I'm delighted to have such a young crowd too. 705 00:40:54,705 --> 00:40:56,206 [crowd applauding] 706 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:58,333 And we would be doing makeup 707 00:40:58,417 --> 00:41:01,712 and talking to a whole crowd of women, 708 00:41:02,212 --> 00:41:06,175 and our main focus was feminism. 709 00:41:07,634 --> 00:41:09,136 You know, we'd start out with, 710 00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:11,555 first of all, you should only spend five minutes 711 00:41:11,638 --> 00:41:13,640 to seven minutes doing your makeup 712 00:41:13,724 --> 00:41:15,809 because you have other things to do. 713 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,022 Basically, it was like, don't depend on the man in your life 714 00:41:20,105 --> 00:41:23,400 because he's not gonna be around, so just take care of yourself. 715 00:41:24,735 --> 00:41:28,572 In 1976, as a woman, you couldn't have a credit card 716 00:41:28,655 --> 00:41:31,325 or a checking account without a husband 717 00:41:31,408 --> 00:41:34,786 or a father co-signing for you, and that's where we were. 718 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,876 [Oprah] Being able to organize and orchestrate a business for yourself 719 00:41:40,959 --> 00:41:44,004 was such an extraordinary accomplishment, 720 00:41:44,087 --> 00:41:48,425 at a time when women were not even considered 721 00:41:48,509 --> 00:41:50,052 second-class citizens. 722 00:41:50,135 --> 00:41:52,262 It's just, like, we didn't even matter. 723 00:41:52,346 --> 00:41:55,557 We had no value in the workplace. 724 00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:58,393 [Regis Philbin] Alright, now we are joined by Diane von Furstenberg, 725 00:41:59,144 --> 00:42:00,479 who has a tremendous spread 726 00:42:00,562 --> 00:42:02,397 -in the new Vogue magazine. -Yes. 727 00:42:02,481 --> 00:42:04,650 You have changed yourself, haven't you? 728 00:42:04,733 --> 00:42:06,860 -Well, I hope I keep on growing. -You look a little different. 729 00:42:06,944 --> 00:42:08,946 -Yes, you look different, Diane. -I hope I keep on growing. 730 00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:11,114 -Well, I am getting old. -Well, no, no, no, no, no. 731 00:42:11,198 --> 00:42:13,075 I mean, you've changed your whole hairstyle. 732 00:42:13,158 --> 00:42:14,576 -[Cyndy Garvey] Sure. -Well, uh, 733 00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:16,078 you know, you keep on growing 734 00:42:16,161 --> 00:42:19,581 and you try to get a little better and, um, you know... 735 00:42:19,665 --> 00:42:21,041 And I have my moods too. 736 00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:22,543 What kind of mood are you in right now? 737 00:42:22,626 --> 00:42:25,128 Well, now I'm trying to be real efficient, 738 00:42:25,212 --> 00:42:26,964 and convincing, and nice, and-- 739 00:42:27,047 --> 00:42:28,382 With, uh, stockings like those? 740 00:42:28,465 --> 00:42:29,716 [audience laughs] 741 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,510 [Nathan] I think all women are treated differently 742 00:42:31,593 --> 00:42:32,594 because they're women. 743 00:42:32,678 --> 00:42:34,388 You are a young woman, you are dismissed, 744 00:42:34,471 --> 00:42:36,765 you're a young pretty woman, you are dismissed, you know? 745 00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:38,433 You've married someone, you're dismissed 746 00:42:38,517 --> 00:42:39,601 because you're just a wife. 747 00:42:39,685 --> 00:42:42,104 You're... you know-- And now, when you're Diane's age, 748 00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:43,438 you're just an old woman, you know? 749 00:42:43,522 --> 00:42:45,065 Like, it's always dismissive. 750 00:42:46,108 --> 00:42:48,485 [Gioia] She had to be incredibly tough 751 00:42:48,569 --> 00:42:52,364 and relentless in pushing for what she wanted, 752 00:42:52,447 --> 00:42:53,866 in the face of resistance 753 00:42:53,949 --> 00:42:57,703 from men who wanted to deny her entrée into their world. 754 00:42:59,746 --> 00:43:03,292 The way she presented herself as this very sexy, 755 00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:08,088 glamorous woman in fishnets and stilettos was exactly opposite 756 00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:11,341 how a woman who wanted to be professional in the '70s 757 00:43:11,425 --> 00:43:13,135 was supposed to present. 758 00:43:13,468 --> 00:43:14,678 [camera shutter snapping] 759 00:43:15,554 --> 00:43:19,266 [Anh] Seduction is part of her being, it's part of her power. 760 00:43:19,808 --> 00:43:23,061 She knows exactly how far she can go with it 761 00:43:23,145 --> 00:43:26,148 and she knows how great she is at it. 762 00:43:26,231 --> 00:43:29,735 But it's a sweet weapon, it's not necessarily an aggressive, 763 00:43:29,818 --> 00:43:32,446 it's a very, um, loving one too. 764 00:43:34,656 --> 00:43:38,869 [Christian Louboutin] When I first met her, it was in Paris, 765 00:43:38,952 --> 00:43:40,829 and I do remember that immediately she says, 766 00:43:40,913 --> 00:43:42,831 "You know the guy you were just speaking to?" 767 00:43:42,915 --> 00:43:44,625 She said, "He's very sexy." 768 00:43:45,042 --> 00:43:46,210 I said, "Go for it." 769 00:43:46,293 --> 00:43:49,213 So, the funny thing is that, without knowing each other, 770 00:43:49,296 --> 00:43:52,174 after two minutes she had spotted someone and she was like on it. 771 00:43:52,257 --> 00:43:54,051 She actually, I think that they had an affair 772 00:43:54,134 --> 00:43:56,178 at that one point quite quickly after. 773 00:43:56,261 --> 00:43:58,722 Back then, you shared yourself 774 00:43:58,805 --> 00:44:01,058 where you wanted to share yourself. 775 00:44:01,141 --> 00:44:04,269 I mean, women should do what men can do. 776 00:44:04,603 --> 00:44:07,731 I mean, why can a man get away with things and women can't? 777 00:44:07,814 --> 00:44:10,734 Uh, that's just... whatever. 778 00:44:10,817 --> 00:44:13,904 [♪ rock music playing] 779 00:44:19,326 --> 00:44:23,372 Different times there'd be a male model or a movie star, 780 00:44:23,455 --> 00:44:26,458 or, you know, whoever in, you know, 781 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,585 her room when I would go give her a kiss 782 00:44:28,669 --> 00:44:31,255 to go, before I went to school, that would never faze me. 783 00:44:32,881 --> 00:44:34,424 [Tatiana] I knew who her boyfriends were, 784 00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:36,885 the three or four that she had, 785 00:44:37,928 --> 00:44:39,429 but I don't know what else she did. 786 00:44:40,013 --> 00:44:42,182 Nor am I really interested. [laughs] 787 00:44:42,266 --> 00:44:44,184 ♪ One, two, three, let's go ♪ 788 00:44:44,685 --> 00:44:46,395 [♪ guitar solo] 789 00:44:46,478 --> 00:44:48,272 [Alexander von Furstenberg] Has she given you the list? 790 00:44:48,355 --> 00:44:50,315 -[director] She has given me the list. -[laughs] 791 00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:52,442 And she's proud of it. 792 00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:54,945 -[director] It's pretty cool. -It's pretty cool. 793 00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:56,780 -[laughing] -[director] It's pretty cool. 794 00:44:56,864 --> 00:44:59,533 I mean, how many people live like that? 795 00:45:02,244 --> 00:45:04,663 [director] Did you have relationships with any of these guys? 796 00:45:05,163 --> 00:45:06,999 [Diane] What do you call a relationship? 797 00:45:07,875 --> 00:45:09,585 Did I seduce him? 798 00:45:09,668 --> 00:45:10,669 Yes. 799 00:45:11,003 --> 00:45:13,505 I was with Warren Beatty and Ryan O’Neal 800 00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:14,965 on the same weekend. 801 00:45:16,466 --> 00:45:17,634 How about that? 802 00:45:17,718 --> 00:45:20,179 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 803 00:45:20,262 --> 00:45:24,683 And I had a thing with Richard Gere. He was cute. 804 00:45:25,058 --> 00:45:28,645 One day, Mick Jagger came with David Bowie. 805 00:45:28,729 --> 00:45:31,523 You know, maybe we could all have fun together, 806 00:45:31,607 --> 00:45:32,900 the three of us. 807 00:45:32,983 --> 00:45:37,237 And I thought, "Well, that's something I could tell my grandchildren." 808 00:45:38,322 --> 00:45:40,616 But they were both sitting on the sofa 809 00:45:40,699 --> 00:45:43,952 and I just thought, "This is... I can't... I mean, I can't. 810 00:45:44,036 --> 00:45:45,662 I just, I just can't do that." 811 00:45:45,746 --> 00:45:48,498 So I said, "Guys, I love you very much, 812 00:45:48,582 --> 00:45:50,792 but I think you're gonna have to go elsewhere." 813 00:45:52,085 --> 00:45:54,922 [Talita von Furstenberg] She really did live her life the way she wanted. 814 00:45:55,005 --> 00:45:58,592 I mean, she rejected a threesome with Mick Jagger and Bowie. 815 00:45:58,675 --> 00:46:00,344 Resisting those two rock stars 816 00:46:00,427 --> 00:46:03,138 in the prime of their career is just really epic. 817 00:46:03,222 --> 00:46:06,183 [♪ rock music continues] 818 00:46:06,683 --> 00:46:10,062 I was having a man's life in a woman's body. 819 00:46:10,145 --> 00:46:12,356 Yes. God, yes. 820 00:46:13,106 --> 00:46:15,108 [♪ pensive music playing] 821 00:46:17,986 --> 00:46:20,197 And then of course, I met Barry 822 00:46:21,156 --> 00:46:22,157 and fell in love. 823 00:46:23,325 --> 00:46:27,788 [Barry Diller] The first time I met Diane is definitely embedded 824 00:46:27,871 --> 00:46:29,498 solidly into my brain. 825 00:46:29,581 --> 00:46:31,500 And there is some controversy 826 00:46:31,583 --> 00:46:33,544 'cause Diane actually says it didn't happen, 827 00:46:33,627 --> 00:46:35,462 but I know that it did happen. 828 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,467 It was at a dinner given by friends of mine. 829 00:46:40,551 --> 00:46:44,346 Diane and Egon came to this dinner 830 00:46:44,429 --> 00:46:48,475 and I was introduced to Diane, 831 00:46:48,934 --> 00:46:52,479 who looked at me like I was cellophane. 832 00:46:54,398 --> 00:46:58,443 At one point, Egon came up to me, who I'd never met before, 833 00:46:58,527 --> 00:47:00,529 and he said, "Your pants are too short." 834 00:47:03,073 --> 00:47:04,491 And, of course, they were. 835 00:47:07,202 --> 00:47:08,412 I wasn't chopped liver, 836 00:47:09,913 --> 00:47:12,416 I was chairman of Paramount Pictures. 837 00:47:14,543 --> 00:47:18,005 I left that night and I thought, 838 00:47:18,088 --> 00:47:19,965 "I never wanna see those people again." 839 00:47:20,924 --> 00:47:25,679 But less than a year later, Diane gave a dinner. 840 00:47:25,762 --> 00:47:27,723 So I go to the dinner, 841 00:47:28,182 --> 00:47:31,476 I was gonna stay 20 minutes, 842 00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:36,648 and I ended up staying more than an hour and a half or so. 843 00:47:36,732 --> 00:47:39,067 Most of the time spent talking to Diane. 844 00:47:39,651 --> 00:47:43,739 There was some absolute magnetism in the air between us. 845 00:47:43,822 --> 00:47:45,991 [♪ "Heart of Glass" by Blondie playing] 846 00:47:46,074 --> 00:47:50,454 [Diane] Barry came into my life and the feeling was very sudden 847 00:47:50,537 --> 00:47:52,873 and very, very, very strong. 848 00:47:52,956 --> 00:47:55,834 He just opened up, and he had never opened to anyone, 849 00:47:55,918 --> 00:47:59,254 and he opened up to me without even thinking. 850 00:48:00,380 --> 00:48:03,342 That's what I fell in love with. 851 00:48:04,551 --> 00:48:07,137 ♪ Much o' mistrust, love's gone behind ♪ 852 00:48:10,224 --> 00:48:13,435 I've always been attracted to shy men 853 00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:16,647 'cause I feel like I can bring something out of them. 854 00:48:17,064 --> 00:48:20,567 She cracked me open from almost the first day. 855 00:48:22,361 --> 00:48:24,279 Magic, sorceress? 856 00:48:25,322 --> 00:48:28,075 I don't know what, but she did. 857 00:48:29,368 --> 00:48:32,496 We were madly in love, madly in love. 858 00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:36,500 But we were two tycoons. 859 00:48:36,583 --> 00:48:39,336 He was chairman of Paramount Pictures. 860 00:48:39,962 --> 00:48:41,713 I was this big success. 861 00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:45,968 [Barry] In the early years, we were both kinda busy, 862 00:48:46,051 --> 00:48:48,887 so half of our relationship was being apart 863 00:48:48,971 --> 00:48:50,389 and half was being together. 864 00:48:51,807 --> 00:48:55,102 This was a time also when there was a lot of freedom 865 00:48:55,185 --> 00:48:58,772 of dating, having side relationships, 866 00:48:58,856 --> 00:49:01,149 and flirting, and all of that. 867 00:49:02,025 --> 00:49:03,151 Whatever your excesses were, 868 00:49:03,235 --> 00:49:06,405 whatever your sexuality was, it was all okay. 869 00:49:06,488 --> 00:49:07,906 It was before AIDS, 870 00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:11,535 it was before any kind of moral clamp down 871 00:49:11,618 --> 00:49:13,745 that happened in the Reagan years. 872 00:49:14,997 --> 00:49:19,042 It was the Studio 54 of our lives. 873 00:49:19,126 --> 00:49:21,628 [♪ "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer playing] 874 00:49:26,175 --> 00:49:28,010 [TV presenter 1] Studio 54. 875 00:49:28,093 --> 00:49:30,470 It attracts the rich and the famous, 876 00:49:30,554 --> 00:49:32,222 the glamorous and the powerful. 877 00:49:32,306 --> 00:49:34,808 [TV presenter 2] Piercing lights, a cascade of special effects, 878 00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,478 supple-bodied young waiters dressed in nothing but shorts, 879 00:49:38,562 --> 00:49:42,149 and the dance floor, where practically anything goes. 880 00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,901 ♪♪ 881 00:49:43,984 --> 00:49:45,569 [Diane] We thought we had invented freedom. 882 00:49:47,779 --> 00:49:51,450 I had lots of friends there, you know, Bianca Jagger, 883 00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:54,536 Mick Jagger, Liza Minnelli, 884 00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:57,748 and everybody ended up there late at night, you know? 885 00:49:57,831 --> 00:49:58,874 ♪♪ 886 00:49:58,957 --> 00:50:03,003 Very often I would have dinner with my children and my mother, 887 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:05,047 and then later that night 888 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:09,176 I would put my cowboy boots on and drive my car. 889 00:50:10,177 --> 00:50:15,182 I would just feel so free because I would walk in alone. 890 00:50:17,017 --> 00:50:19,561 [Bob] Everything just sort of was so open 891 00:50:19,645 --> 00:50:21,897 and Diane was very much in the middle of that. 892 00:50:23,565 --> 00:50:26,860 [Gigi] There were no rules, you just did what felt good. 893 00:50:27,903 --> 00:50:30,030 You met somebody, you went home with them. 894 00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:32,991 I don't think I've ever had a date. 895 00:50:33,075 --> 00:50:34,076 [chuckles] 896 00:50:34,826 --> 00:50:38,497 It wasn't, okay, now I'm with a man, or now I'm with a woman. 897 00:50:38,956 --> 00:50:41,333 Diane and I flirted with each other all the time. 898 00:50:43,252 --> 00:50:46,129 We thought nothing could be better for you than promiscuity. 899 00:50:46,213 --> 00:50:48,382 For sure, promiscuity was good for you. 900 00:50:49,132 --> 00:50:52,427 It was a time of more people having more sex. 901 00:50:53,095 --> 00:50:54,555 Even straight people. 902 00:50:55,013 --> 00:50:57,933 ♪ I feel love ♪ 903 00:50:58,809 --> 00:51:00,561 [Barry] A lot of people were doing drugs. 904 00:51:00,644 --> 00:51:05,107 I was not, Diane was just smoking marijuana. 905 00:51:07,025 --> 00:51:09,111 [Fran] Cocaine was like a huge drug, and Quaaludes. 906 00:51:10,571 --> 00:51:12,614 Steve Rubell, who was one of the owners, 907 00:51:12,698 --> 00:51:13,699 he would always put like a, 908 00:51:13,782 --> 00:51:15,868 like a handful in your hand when you went in. 909 00:51:15,951 --> 00:51:17,244 I would always take the Quaaludes 910 00:51:17,327 --> 00:51:18,954 because girls liked them, but I never took one. 911 00:51:19,037 --> 00:51:20,372 It didn't last that long, 912 00:51:20,455 --> 00:51:22,624 I, I think it lasted like two years maybe. 913 00:51:22,708 --> 00:51:24,376 I could be wrong, maybe even less. 914 00:51:27,296 --> 00:51:32,134 [Linda] Diane gave a going-away party for Steve Rubell. 915 00:51:32,718 --> 00:51:37,181 I was such a Gidget that I asked whoever's standing next to me 916 00:51:37,264 --> 00:51:38,932 where Steve Rubell was going. 917 00:51:39,016 --> 00:51:42,769 I thought, "Oh, some fantastic vacation or something." 918 00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:44,813 And the answer was, "To jail." 919 00:51:44,897 --> 00:51:46,231 [laughs] 920 00:51:48,692 --> 00:51:51,945 [Bob] Diane's parties were just great mixes of people. 921 00:51:52,821 --> 00:51:54,698 It was uptown and downtown. 922 00:51:55,574 --> 00:51:58,452 It was Henry Kissinger, or it was Norman Mailer, 923 00:51:58,535 --> 00:52:01,663 it was Susan Sontag, it was Andy. 924 00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,751 And, um, you know, Diane and Egon always remained really friendly. 925 00:52:06,793 --> 00:52:11,632 He would roll with, you know, a posse of five, six guys. 926 00:52:11,715 --> 00:52:13,592 There was no judgment, there was no hiding. 927 00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:15,969 I knew that he was gay, very, you know... 928 00:52:16,053 --> 00:52:19,264 He was, uh, very open and honest. 929 00:52:21,225 --> 00:52:25,354 [Tatiana] I think my dad's nickname was "Egon von First in Bed". 930 00:52:25,437 --> 00:52:26,772 I mean, I certainly met many people 931 00:52:26,855 --> 00:52:28,524 that were his boyfriends. 932 00:52:29,566 --> 00:52:31,652 But you have to understand, at the time, 933 00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,154 my dad's promiscuity, it was, like, terrifying 934 00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:37,574 because that was the beginning of AIDS. 935 00:52:37,866 --> 00:52:40,244 [♪ solemn music playing] 936 00:52:42,538 --> 00:52:44,623 [Gigi] In 1981 I became very aware 937 00:52:44,998 --> 00:52:46,708 that something was killing everybody. 938 00:52:49,044 --> 00:52:51,296 And that was our clique, that was our group. 939 00:52:53,507 --> 00:52:55,801 Everything went back to the dark ages. 940 00:52:57,427 --> 00:52:58,846 Free love was gone. 941 00:52:59,388 --> 00:53:01,515 ♪♪ 942 00:53:01,598 --> 00:53:03,475 [Diane] It was a difficult time. 943 00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:05,102 A lot of people were dying, 944 00:53:05,185 --> 00:53:08,146 a lot of talented people, young people. 945 00:53:08,856 --> 00:53:11,275 You know, all of our family friends. 946 00:53:11,358 --> 00:53:14,194 I mean, my mom and dad both worked in fashion 947 00:53:14,695 --> 00:53:17,489 and, um, it was like everybody. 948 00:53:20,701 --> 00:53:25,080 [Alexander] AIDS had a really huge impact on my family 949 00:53:25,998 --> 00:53:28,250 in a really deep way. 950 00:53:28,792 --> 00:53:30,419 And most importantly, my father. 951 00:53:33,297 --> 00:53:36,758 [Diane] I remember when he told me that he was positive. 952 00:53:38,552 --> 00:53:41,680 My children were traumatized. 953 00:53:43,182 --> 00:53:47,436 [Alexander] And I saw him suffer for, you know, close to a decade. 954 00:53:49,688 --> 00:53:53,525 [Tatiana] I was so terrified of him dying, like, terrified. 955 00:53:55,444 --> 00:53:58,405 [Diane] I loved him, I never stopped loving him. 956 00:54:00,115 --> 00:54:03,493 I was with Egon with my children when he died. 957 00:54:03,577 --> 00:54:04,912 ♪♪ 958 00:54:04,995 --> 00:54:06,622 I closed his eyes. 959 00:54:11,126 --> 00:54:13,712 [Alexander] Watching someone that was full of life, 960 00:54:13,795 --> 00:54:17,466 life of the party, slowly dwindle away 961 00:54:18,133 --> 00:54:20,552 from AIDS sucked. 962 00:54:21,929 --> 00:54:23,889 And I actually watched him die. 963 00:54:23,972 --> 00:54:26,266 I watched him take his last breath, 964 00:54:27,476 --> 00:54:28,977 and dying sucks. 965 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,251 [♪ solemn music fades out] 966 00:54:36,527 --> 00:54:37,903 [TV presenter] Diane von Furstenberg 967 00:54:37,986 --> 00:54:41,198 is a name known to women throughout this country. 968 00:54:41,281 --> 00:54:43,742 Once dismissed as a frivolous jet setter, 969 00:54:43,825 --> 00:54:47,079 she has since built a multimillion-dollar fragrance 970 00:54:47,162 --> 00:54:50,999 and fashion empire aimed at women, not unlike herself. 971 00:54:51,083 --> 00:54:54,086 When did you decide that the time had come 972 00:54:54,169 --> 00:54:56,588 to begin building your empire? 973 00:54:57,381 --> 00:54:58,924 Well, it didn't come that way. 974 00:54:59,007 --> 00:55:00,717 I very much wanted to work, 975 00:55:00,801 --> 00:55:02,678 I very much wanted to be independent 976 00:55:02,761 --> 00:55:05,597 and then I was very successful very quickly, 977 00:55:05,681 --> 00:55:08,141 made enormous amount of money very quickly, 978 00:55:08,225 --> 00:55:10,936 and then all of a sudden, woom, lost it all. 979 00:55:12,563 --> 00:55:16,233 One morning we woke up and every newspaper was, 980 00:55:16,316 --> 00:55:17,860 all the dresses were on sale. 981 00:55:19,236 --> 00:55:21,530 I was saturating the market. 982 00:55:21,905 --> 00:55:26,660 Every woman in America, she had one, two, five, ten, sometimes twenty 983 00:55:26,743 --> 00:55:28,370 of the same dresses. 984 00:55:28,453 --> 00:55:29,830 That couldn't go on. 985 00:55:31,623 --> 00:55:37,004 It was very difficult, all these big responsibilities, liabilities, 986 00:55:37,171 --> 00:55:40,841 and I went through a midlife crisis 987 00:55:40,924 --> 00:55:44,845 that usually a big businessman of 50 has. 988 00:55:46,013 --> 00:55:47,931 My company was in trouble 989 00:55:48,849 --> 00:55:53,562 and then something happened that was 100 times worse. 990 00:55:55,814 --> 00:56:00,319 I had a phone call from my mother's companion. 991 00:56:01,403 --> 00:56:05,157 They had gone on a business trip to Germany 992 00:56:06,158 --> 00:56:09,745 and I don't know what happened, 993 00:56:09,828 --> 00:56:12,873 but something must have triggered. 994 00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:18,212 He woke up and he looked for her, and he could not find her. 995 00:56:19,004 --> 00:56:20,714 And he went to the lobby 996 00:56:20,797 --> 00:56:23,091 and she was hiding 997 00:56:23,175 --> 00:56:26,803 under the concierge's desk. 998 00:56:28,597 --> 00:56:31,600 She went crazy. 999 00:56:32,851 --> 00:56:34,478 [Linda] She was in Germany 1000 00:56:34,561 --> 00:56:37,523 and there were German men around talking loudly. 1001 00:56:38,232 --> 00:56:42,110 It just triggered a whole panic. 1002 00:56:43,153 --> 00:56:45,989 And so she was in a mental ward. 1003 00:56:47,574 --> 00:56:51,787 [Diane] I took a plane from New York and I came to Geneva. 1004 00:56:53,038 --> 00:56:56,375 I brought the children because I needed them to be near me. 1005 00:56:57,626 --> 00:57:01,088 I arrived in the hospital and I discovered my mother, 1006 00:57:01,171 --> 00:57:05,884 tiny, tiny, tiny, like a little bird on her bed 1007 00:57:05,968 --> 00:57:07,845 with her fur coat on her. 1008 00:57:08,345 --> 00:57:10,472 Her fur coat, you have to understand, 1009 00:57:11,890 --> 00:57:15,102 was probably the most meaningful thing for her. 1010 00:57:17,396 --> 00:57:20,816 [Linda] She had bought the fur coat with the reparations 1011 00:57:20,899 --> 00:57:22,317 from the German government 1012 00:57:23,068 --> 00:57:25,529 because she had been so cold, so cold, 1013 00:57:25,612 --> 00:57:28,699 how she survived, I really do not know. 1014 00:57:40,627 --> 00:57:43,297 [Diane] When my mother had her breakdown, 1015 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:46,592 that's when I had just a taste 1016 00:57:46,675 --> 00:57:49,803 of the horrible stuff she went through. 1017 00:57:51,346 --> 00:57:56,226 That's when I understood how hard it had been on her. 1018 00:57:58,187 --> 00:58:03,275 "Between August 1942 and July '44, 1019 00:58:03,942 --> 00:58:08,906 "twenty-eight trains left from the Dossin barracks 1020 00:58:08,989 --> 00:58:14,119 and deported 25,628 Jews." 1021 00:58:14,453 --> 00:58:17,456 So she went in, she went in one like that. 1022 00:58:18,332 --> 00:58:19,499 Crazy, huh? 1023 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,297 My mother gets arrested in Belgium, 1024 00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:30,010 five days in the cattle train, no food, no water, 1025 00:58:30,093 --> 00:58:33,680 people, you know, throwing up, all of that. 1026 00:58:34,056 --> 00:58:38,727 And she always told me, "Fear is not an option." 1027 00:58:40,229 --> 00:58:44,107 When she was arrested, she took some cardboard 1028 00:58:44,191 --> 00:58:46,485 and she wrote to her parents, 1029 00:58:46,568 --> 00:58:50,239 and she threw it in the, in-- on the street 1030 00:58:50,322 --> 00:58:53,992 hoping that somebody would find it. 1031 00:58:54,076 --> 00:58:56,745 And she never-- See, she said, "Merci beaucoup," 1032 00:58:56,828 --> 00:59:00,707 she gave the address, and she wrote to her parents. 1033 00:59:16,348 --> 00:59:17,349 [emotional sigh] 1034 00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:31,488 [♪ somber music playing] 1035 00:59:32,781 --> 00:59:38,912 My mother is incredibly, incredibly important. 1036 00:59:39,246 --> 00:59:42,332 In every cell of my being. 1037 00:59:47,963 --> 00:59:51,466 [guide] Only the ones in sepia are the ones who survived. 1038 00:59:51,550 --> 00:59:56,388 So, everybody in black and white did not survive. 1039 00:59:58,557 --> 01:00:01,476 [Diane] She lived the horror 1040 01:00:02,019 --> 01:00:05,981 that none of us can even imagine. 1041 01:00:07,274 --> 01:00:09,276 ♪♪ 1042 01:00:09,776 --> 01:00:12,487 [Tatiana] When my grandmother had her nervous breakdown in Germany, 1043 01:00:12,571 --> 01:00:14,615 I think it was my mother's worst nightmare, 1044 01:00:14,698 --> 01:00:17,910 because we always tried to keep her buoyed 1045 01:00:18,827 --> 01:00:21,121 and it took her about a year to fully recover. 1046 01:00:24,625 --> 01:00:28,253 [Diane] After my mother got better we came back to New York 1047 01:00:29,129 --> 01:00:32,841 and I was invited to get an award 1048 01:00:32,925 --> 01:00:36,637 by the Anti-Defamation League at the Hotel Pierre. 1049 01:00:37,596 --> 01:00:40,474 They called me on stage and I said, 1050 01:00:40,557 --> 01:00:44,811 "You all know me because, you know, of my dresses, 1051 01:00:44,895 --> 01:00:48,607 "but what you don't know is that 18 months before I was born, 1052 01:00:48,982 --> 01:00:53,278 my mother was in Auschwitz, I am a child of a survivor." 1053 01:00:56,782 --> 01:01:00,077 To hear myself saying that 1054 01:01:00,619 --> 01:01:03,288 was so shocking to me. 1055 01:01:03,372 --> 01:01:07,417 I started to tremble, I couldn't believe that I said that. 1056 01:01:07,876 --> 01:01:10,295 And I remember I walked back home 1057 01:01:11,296 --> 01:01:13,215 and I was in shock. 1058 01:01:13,674 --> 01:01:16,552 I had realized... 1059 01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,931 who I was and where I came from, 1060 01:01:21,014 --> 01:01:23,809 and before that I had never done that. 1061 01:01:24,476 --> 01:01:27,062 Her way to deal with being sad sometimes 1062 01:01:27,145 --> 01:01:29,523 is to really concentrate on something else. 1063 01:01:29,606 --> 01:01:33,986 So it's, it is there, but she doesn't wanna put it in front. 1064 01:01:35,445 --> 01:01:38,657 [Diane] That was key moment in my life. 1065 01:01:39,741 --> 01:01:43,120 I had all of a sudden the responsibility to talk about it, 1066 01:01:43,620 --> 01:01:45,956 and I didn't wanna do that. 1067 01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:49,626 I wanted to go as far as I could possibly go. 1068 01:01:51,128 --> 01:01:54,006 I took my children and we went to Bali. 1069 01:01:56,383 --> 01:02:02,472 I fell into nature, and, and sarongs, and volcanoes, 1070 01:02:02,556 --> 01:02:06,852 and... and I just lived a fantasy. 1071 01:02:07,728 --> 01:02:09,813 [waves crashing] 1072 01:02:10,731 --> 01:02:12,608 And there I met Paolo, 1073 01:02:14,776 --> 01:02:16,570 and we fell in love. 1074 01:02:19,698 --> 01:02:23,994 Into my life you came, bringing peace to my heart, 1075 01:02:24,077 --> 01:02:27,581 fire to my body, love to my soul. 1076 01:02:28,540 --> 01:02:33,837 In your eyes, I see myself feeling, reaching, 1077 01:02:33,921 --> 01:02:37,174 looking for perfect harmony. 1078 01:02:37,257 --> 01:02:39,927 [presenter] The words are Diane von Furstenberg's, 1079 01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:43,263 and they are the very essence of her new perfume, 1080 01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:45,015 Volcan D'Amour. 1081 01:02:45,098 --> 01:02:50,062 It's love, it's a promise, almost a commitment. 1082 01:02:51,438 --> 01:02:53,815 [Barry] What a contrast from me 1083 01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:58,612 to a Brazilian kinda beach boy. 1084 01:02:59,363 --> 01:03:02,407 She was developing an alternative life to the one she had, 1085 01:03:03,283 --> 01:03:06,078 and she was on a different planet. 1086 01:03:07,538 --> 01:03:09,414 I was devastated. 1087 01:03:10,666 --> 01:03:13,669 [Diane] I was reinventing my life, you know? 1088 01:03:15,337 --> 01:03:17,631 And that's what happens in a lifetime. 1089 01:03:19,383 --> 01:03:22,886 [Peter Arnell] The Bali period, to me, was an escape from a pain 1090 01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:24,471 that she couldn't manage, 1091 01:03:25,097 --> 01:03:27,057 I think she ran away from it. 1092 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,393 I don't think it was a cop-out. 1093 01:03:29,476 --> 01:03:33,939 I think it was a necessary step to remove herself 1094 01:03:34,022 --> 01:03:37,109 from problems that maybe she couldn't face. 1095 01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:43,282 [Diane] Then I fell in love with a writer... 1096 01:03:44,324 --> 01:03:46,076 and I moved to Paris. 1097 01:03:51,331 --> 01:03:54,418 [Gioia] After the Brazilian that she'd picked up on the beach 1098 01:03:54,501 --> 01:03:57,212 she falls in love with Alain Elkann, 1099 01:03:57,588 --> 01:04:01,049 a rising writer living in Paris. 1100 01:04:01,717 --> 01:04:05,804 [Diane] All of a sudden I was the muse of a writer. 1101 01:04:06,263 --> 01:04:09,558 I didn't really run a business anymore, 1102 01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:13,687 so I fulfilled another fantasy. 1103 01:04:13,770 --> 01:04:15,981 I had a literary salon 1104 01:04:16,064 --> 01:04:19,026 and I started a small publishing house. 1105 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,947 [Linda] She goes deeply into this literary life 1106 01:04:24,865 --> 01:04:29,578 and he didn't like her jazzy, zippy, vivid colors, 1107 01:04:29,661 --> 01:04:32,289 wonderful designed clothes, no! 1108 01:04:32,372 --> 01:04:37,336 So she's walking around in a gray skirt and a green cardigan. 1109 01:04:38,086 --> 01:04:39,963 This was not Diane. 1110 01:04:40,464 --> 01:04:41,924 [Gioia] I remember the first time I saw her, 1111 01:04:42,508 --> 01:04:44,301 I had to do a double-take. 1112 01:04:44,384 --> 01:04:45,802 I hardly recognized her 1113 01:04:45,886 --> 01:04:49,223 because she looked more like Susan Sontag than DVF. 1114 01:04:50,891 --> 01:04:53,435 [Tatiana] Me and my brother felt like she was a little bit 1115 01:04:53,852 --> 01:04:56,063 impressionable at that time, you know? 1116 01:04:56,146 --> 01:04:58,690 Like, she was giving up who she was 1117 01:04:58,774 --> 01:05:01,693 and becoming kind of enmeshed in his identity. 1118 01:05:03,278 --> 01:05:06,240 [Diane] Actually, Alain and I had a great relationship. 1119 01:05:07,324 --> 01:05:10,118 But then he had an affair with my best friend. 1120 01:05:10,827 --> 01:05:14,039 [Linda] Diane said, "Fazoo," and came home. 1121 01:05:18,085 --> 01:05:21,713 [Diane] I missed my home in America. 1122 01:05:22,965 --> 01:05:25,008 So I came back to New York 1123 01:05:26,176 --> 01:05:28,720 and that was the hardest year when I came back. 1124 01:05:30,055 --> 01:05:32,182 My children went to boarding school. 1125 01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:35,018 [Tatiana] My mom was really upset 1126 01:05:35,102 --> 01:05:37,396 when I went to boarding school, really upset. 1127 01:05:38,814 --> 01:05:40,941 [Diane] I really, really cried. 1128 01:05:41,024 --> 01:05:44,611 That was a big, big, big, big cry. 1129 01:05:48,282 --> 01:05:51,159 [Tatiana] I think my mom in a way always felt 1130 01:05:51,243 --> 01:05:53,453 like she was playing catch-up with me, you know? 1131 01:05:53,537 --> 01:05:55,205 Like, she was always trying to connect 1132 01:05:55,289 --> 01:05:57,457 and I was always a little bit elusive. 1133 01:05:58,792 --> 01:06:00,627 Sometimes she wanted more quality time, 1134 01:06:00,711 --> 01:06:03,839 but it was like I couldn't, I would ice her out. 1135 01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:06,425 Maybe it was too little, too late. 1136 01:06:07,009 --> 01:06:08,927 And so I think when I went to boarding school, 1137 01:06:09,011 --> 01:06:10,387 I think it was really devastating for her 1138 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:14,474 because I was gone now and I didn't ever move back home. 1139 01:06:14,558 --> 01:06:17,102 I was gone and we were still playing catch-up. 1140 01:06:22,107 --> 01:06:25,152 [Diane] "Dear Mommy, I was wondering 1141 01:06:25,235 --> 01:06:27,905 "if I could have a talk with you sometime, 1142 01:06:28,405 --> 01:06:31,700 because, Mommy, you don't know anything about my life." 1143 01:06:33,452 --> 01:06:35,537 [Tatiana] I think I wrote that note, "Dear Mom, 1144 01:06:35,621 --> 01:06:37,623 you know absolutely nothing about me." 1145 01:06:38,165 --> 01:06:39,249 That's how I felt. 1146 01:06:40,751 --> 01:06:43,837 [Diane] I pinned that note on my board 1147 01:06:43,921 --> 01:06:47,216 and I looked at that note all the time, 1148 01:06:48,175 --> 01:06:51,470 and yet I didn't understand the note. 1149 01:06:53,597 --> 01:06:57,768 I did not realize that Tatiana had a disability. 1150 01:06:59,603 --> 01:07:01,313 [Tatiana] My family had no idea 1151 01:07:01,396 --> 01:07:03,982 that I was born with a neuromuscular disease. 1152 01:07:04,733 --> 01:07:07,611 It's basically exercise induced paralysis. 1153 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,532 So I can't run, I can't jump, I can't do stairs. 1154 01:07:12,157 --> 01:07:15,035 She was born in a family that everybody was so active, 1155 01:07:15,118 --> 01:07:18,038 and going and running and going, 1156 01:07:18,580 --> 01:07:20,624 and she could not do that. 1157 01:07:20,707 --> 01:07:22,209 [children laughing] 1158 01:07:22,292 --> 01:07:26,630 So I took myself to, uh, the doctor when I was like 21 years old, 1159 01:07:27,256 --> 01:07:29,842 and I was diagnosed in 30 minutes, it was, like, ridiculous. 1160 01:07:29,925 --> 01:07:31,593 And it was, like, so affirming 1161 01:07:31,677 --> 01:07:36,056 because I thought that, like, I had a mental block. 1162 01:07:37,224 --> 01:07:39,977 [Diane] I didn't realize that for her it was so painful, 1163 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,439 and that is something that I... 1164 01:07:45,274 --> 01:07:50,028 I really regret that I did not acknowledge it. 1165 01:07:51,446 --> 01:07:56,243 That is really one regret, 1166 01:07:56,326 --> 01:07:58,120 big regret that I have. 1167 01:08:01,623 --> 01:08:04,251 [TV presenter] The Diane von Furstenberg sportswear collection 1168 01:08:04,334 --> 01:08:05,794 by Puritan. 1169 01:08:08,589 --> 01:08:13,260 [Diane] At the time, every product that carried my name was a license. 1170 01:08:14,219 --> 01:08:16,471 I didn't own anything. 1171 01:08:17,848 --> 01:08:20,767 My brand is in the hands of all kinds of people, 1172 01:08:20,851 --> 01:08:24,563 nobody listens to what I want to do or say. 1173 01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:28,650 I didn't realize how much my identity 1174 01:08:28,734 --> 01:08:31,904 was linked to my brand. 1175 01:08:32,529 --> 01:08:34,364 Your name has been on so many products, 1176 01:08:35,073 --> 01:08:37,492 excuse me, but do you still design yourself? 1177 01:08:39,328 --> 01:08:41,580 Probably the thing that we remember you most for, 1178 01:08:41,663 --> 01:08:44,791 the thing that really brought you national, international fame 1179 01:08:44,875 --> 01:08:46,710 was your jersey wrap dress. 1180 01:08:46,793 --> 01:08:49,630 It was very popular, but at the end you were stuck. 1181 01:08:49,713 --> 01:08:52,508 That was a $4 million package that you were left with 1182 01:08:52,591 --> 01:08:53,592 and yet you... 1183 01:08:53,675 --> 01:08:56,428 She said, "I hated my life, I felt like a failure. 1184 01:08:56,512 --> 01:08:58,138 "I felt like a horrible mother. 1185 01:08:58,222 --> 01:09:00,182 I felt like a horrible businessperson." 1186 01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:04,478 And that's when I got cancer. 1187 01:09:04,937 --> 01:09:07,856 [♪ solemn piano music playing] 1188 01:09:09,274 --> 01:09:14,071 I was diagnosed with cancer at the base of the tongue 1189 01:09:14,446 --> 01:09:16,073 and the soft palate. 1190 01:09:19,618 --> 01:09:21,286 [Barry] I was a wreck. 1191 01:09:22,746 --> 01:09:27,501 But once she knew, she was determinative 1192 01:09:27,584 --> 01:09:30,587 and actually had no patience for my... 1193 01:09:32,589 --> 01:09:34,466 emotionalism over this. 1194 01:09:35,968 --> 01:09:38,428 [Fran] I happened to see her the night she was diagnosed with cancer. 1195 01:09:39,012 --> 01:09:40,889 I was sitting next to her and she said to me, 1196 01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:41,974 "I have cancer." 1197 01:09:42,683 --> 01:09:43,892 I was shocked. 1198 01:09:44,476 --> 01:09:46,645 I said, "When did you find this out?" "Today." 1199 01:09:47,104 --> 01:09:49,690 Today, the day the doctor told her she had cancer, 1200 01:09:49,773 --> 01:09:50,983 she was at a party. 1201 01:09:51,066 --> 01:09:53,777 That is a thing that not that many people would do 1202 01:09:53,861 --> 01:09:55,946 because you would be too flipped out. 1203 01:09:57,406 --> 01:09:59,074 I mean, she was a gladiator. 1204 01:10:00,576 --> 01:10:03,620 [Deepak Chopra] I taught her mantras and sutras 1205 01:10:04,371 --> 01:10:08,166 and she immediately intellectually grasped 1206 01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:12,087 the importance of a stress-free mind. 1207 01:10:13,755 --> 01:10:19,970 [Diane] I meditated, I went to radiation every day, walking. 1208 01:10:22,514 --> 01:10:27,394 From where I lived, to the hospital, to my office, 1209 01:10:27,477 --> 01:10:29,730 I realized was like a V. 1210 01:10:30,272 --> 01:10:33,317 So I would walk like that, the blocks, 1211 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,861 making a perfect V for victory. 1212 01:10:36,695 --> 01:10:38,363 ♪♪ 1213 01:10:40,574 --> 01:10:44,161 I really think that I got the cancer 1214 01:10:44,703 --> 01:10:46,455 at the base of my tongue 1215 01:10:47,497 --> 01:10:53,504 because for last few years, I could not express myself. 1216 01:10:54,922 --> 01:10:59,843 That's when I realized that I had to take back my business. 1217 01:10:59,927 --> 01:11:02,221 [♪ bright music playing] 1218 01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:06,099 I am coming back from Paris 1219 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,604 and I meet a man who has a company with Marvin Traub. 1220 01:11:11,104 --> 01:11:14,566 Marvin Traub was really the king of retail. 1221 01:11:14,650 --> 01:11:17,611 He was the chairman of Bloomingdale's 1222 01:11:17,694 --> 01:11:21,240 when Bloomingdale's was really it, it, it. 1223 01:11:22,199 --> 01:11:28,080 This man says, "I want to take you to visit a company called QVC." 1224 01:11:28,163 --> 01:11:29,164 [♪ station jingle plays] 1225 01:11:29,248 --> 01:11:32,209 ♪ Q-V-C ♪ 1226 01:11:32,876 --> 01:11:36,463 [TV presenter] Live from QVC, America's quality cable shopping channel. 1227 01:11:36,547 --> 01:11:40,634 Now, QVC was a little tacky. 1228 01:11:40,717 --> 01:11:42,261 [presenter] A special warm place in your heart 1229 01:11:42,344 --> 01:11:43,595 for your favorite photograph, 1230 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:46,139 or a place for some potpourri and a potpourri jar. 1231 01:11:46,223 --> 01:11:48,684 [Diane] I mean, they sold a lot of dolls. 1232 01:11:48,767 --> 01:11:50,227 [presenter] Now, the way these are designed, 1233 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:51,520 the pink one has little blue eyes, 1234 01:11:51,603 --> 01:11:53,230 the gray one has black eyes. 1235 01:11:53,313 --> 01:11:55,315 But I tried to be positive. 1236 01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:59,736 We walk into the studio, and there was Susan Lucci. 1237 01:12:00,112 --> 01:12:02,865 Uh, do we have a moment to talk about the botanical styling lotion? 1238 01:12:02,948 --> 01:12:06,994 [Diane] Susan Lucci was a huge soap opera star 1239 01:12:07,077 --> 01:12:09,454 and she was selling shampoo. 1240 01:12:09,538 --> 01:12:10,747 I can't believe it. 1241 01:12:10,831 --> 01:12:15,210 I mean, she sold, I don't know, $700,000 of shampoo in two hours. 1242 01:12:15,294 --> 01:12:18,088 And I thought, "Oh, my God, this is fantastic." 1243 01:12:18,172 --> 01:12:20,507 Good morning, welcome to the Diane von Furstenberg 1244 01:12:20,591 --> 01:12:22,759 Silk Assets Collection. Who's this, please? 1245 01:12:22,843 --> 01:12:25,679 [caller] [on phone] Good morning, Jane. This is Susan from Lansdowne, Baltimore. 1246 01:12:25,762 --> 01:12:27,472 Hello, Susan, please meet Diane von Furstenberg. 1247 01:12:27,556 --> 01:12:29,600 -Hello, Susan. Good morning. -[Susan] Good morning, Diane. 1248 01:12:29,683 --> 01:12:32,352 I did my first show 1249 01:12:33,145 --> 01:12:35,355 and it was unbelievable. 1250 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,484 You see a television right there and you see the sales. 1251 01:12:39,818 --> 01:12:42,029 [telemarketer] Thanks for calling QVC, it's available in red. 1252 01:12:42,112 --> 01:12:43,405 [overlapping chatter] 1253 01:12:43,488 --> 01:12:44,740 [operator] Thanks for calling QVC. 1254 01:12:44,823 --> 01:12:48,785 I mean, we sold a million and four hundred thousand in two hours. 1255 01:12:51,371 --> 01:12:52,873 [Marc] QVC was very new for people 1256 01:12:54,208 --> 01:12:56,126 and I think at that time 1257 01:12:56,210 --> 01:13:00,506 there was this snobby, snooty elitism 1258 01:13:00,589 --> 01:13:03,133 that said that if you were a fashion designer 1259 01:13:03,217 --> 01:13:06,595 who used expensive fabrics and made expensive clothes 1260 01:13:06,678 --> 01:13:08,764 for a sophisticated customer, 1261 01:13:08,847 --> 01:13:12,142 that you'd be tarnished if you gave your name 1262 01:13:12,226 --> 01:13:17,064 and your talent to an inexpensive democratic product. 1263 01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:18,899 And I never believed that 1264 01:13:19,608 --> 01:13:21,735 and Diane definitely never believed it. 1265 01:13:21,818 --> 01:13:23,779 [caller] [on phone] Hi, this is Gail in Savannah, Georgia. 1266 01:13:23,862 --> 01:13:25,572 -Hi, Gail. -Hi, Gail. 1267 01:13:25,656 --> 01:13:27,407 [Gail] Hi, Diane, hi, Jane. Hello. 1268 01:13:27,491 --> 01:13:29,076 I love Savannah. 1269 01:13:29,159 --> 01:13:32,788 [Vanessa] She's very unsnobby about people 1270 01:13:32,871 --> 01:13:37,209 and in a way that makes her even more sort of fabulous. [chuckles] 1271 01:13:37,876 --> 01:13:42,089 There is no place in the world that you can find 1272 01:13:42,172 --> 01:13:46,218 that quality at those unbelievable prices. 1273 01:13:47,261 --> 01:13:50,305 [Barry] People would criticize Diane for going on cheap, cheesy QVC, 1274 01:13:50,848 --> 01:13:52,266 but it was great for her. 1275 01:13:52,349 --> 01:13:55,769 It gave her a new way of being in business. 1276 01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:58,730 It revived her whole career. 1277 01:14:03,277 --> 01:14:06,655 [Diane] I had mentioned to Barry about QVC. 1278 01:14:07,781 --> 01:14:12,077 Barry had left his job, so we both felt a little bit, 1279 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,621 how can I say, outsiders, right? 1280 01:14:15,163 --> 01:14:17,207 And so, he took over the company. 1281 01:14:18,041 --> 01:14:19,585 [Lesley Stahl] So you buy QVC. 1282 01:14:19,668 --> 01:14:21,712 -[Barry] Yeah, yeah. -And people were surprised. 1283 01:14:21,795 --> 01:14:24,464 Yes, I'll say. They said I'd lost my mind. 1284 01:14:24,882 --> 01:14:28,218 Because you had traded this glamour life in Hollywood for some-- 1285 01:14:28,302 --> 01:14:29,553 Yeah, for West Chester, Pennsylvania. 1286 01:14:30,512 --> 01:14:35,142 [Diane] Barry was back in my life in a more intense way. 1287 01:14:35,976 --> 01:14:38,562 I think at the end, he's my soulmate. 1288 01:14:40,939 --> 01:14:45,360 He was first my lover, he was then my friend. 1289 01:14:46,028 --> 01:14:49,156 Barry has been the consistent love in my life. 1290 01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:52,284 [Barry] Little old people crossing Madison Avenue. 1291 01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:53,368 [Diane laughs] 1292 01:14:53,452 --> 01:14:55,746 [Diane] My mother was living with me at the time. 1293 01:14:56,246 --> 01:14:59,499 I said to her, "I think I will marry Barry." 1294 01:15:00,125 --> 01:15:03,670 And she said something, my mother wasn't big on compliment, 1295 01:15:04,171 --> 01:15:06,256 but she said something that I loved. 1296 01:15:06,340 --> 01:15:09,968 She said, "He deserves you." 1297 01:15:10,928 --> 01:15:14,890 She didn't say, "Oh, yes, you know, you're 50 years old, 1298 01:15:14,973 --> 01:15:16,016 you should be married." 1299 01:15:16,099 --> 01:15:18,227 She said, "He deserves you." 1300 01:15:18,685 --> 01:15:22,022 Which was a wonderful compliment to both of us. 1301 01:15:22,648 --> 01:15:25,400 This is my off-- Oh, this is when we got married. 1302 01:15:26,151 --> 01:15:27,861 This is, we met at the office. 1303 01:15:27,945 --> 01:15:29,321 Oh, this is the restaurant we went to. 1304 01:15:29,404 --> 01:15:30,948 -No, no, no, no. -Yes. 1305 01:15:31,031 --> 01:15:33,283 No, Barry, this is my office. 1306 01:15:33,867 --> 01:15:35,118 [Barry] My birthday was coming up 1307 01:15:35,202 --> 01:15:39,373 and Diane was giving a party for Alex and Tatiana and me, 1308 01:15:39,456 --> 01:15:40,582 'cause we're all Aquarians. 1309 01:15:41,917 --> 01:15:45,128 [Diane] I said, "If you want, I'll marry you for your birthday." 1310 01:15:46,213 --> 01:15:49,341 [Barry] Okay, we'll get married at City Hall, 1311 01:15:49,424 --> 01:15:50,717 we'll tell no one, 1312 01:15:50,801 --> 01:15:52,427 and that's what we did. 1313 01:15:53,637 --> 01:15:55,848 [Diane] And these are Annie Leibovitz's pictures. 1314 01:15:55,931 --> 01:15:57,724 -[Barry] These are all Annie's. -[Diane] Yeah. 1315 01:15:58,433 --> 01:15:59,977 [Barry] Our friend Annie Leibovitz 1316 01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:02,521 took all of our wedding pictures as a present. 1317 01:16:03,689 --> 01:16:08,318 [Diane] It was very sweet, he gave me 26 wedding bands 1318 01:16:08,402 --> 01:16:11,864 for the 26 years that we had not been married. 1319 01:16:13,448 --> 01:16:15,534 [Barry] I think she's given a few away, 1320 01:16:16,368 --> 01:16:19,121 but she has still most of them, I hope. 1321 01:16:21,373 --> 01:16:22,708 [Diane] Love is life. 1322 01:16:25,586 --> 01:16:27,838 It's one of the best relationships I know. 1323 01:16:27,921 --> 01:16:30,549 And, you know, they don't even live in the same house. 1324 01:16:31,842 --> 01:16:34,052 [Seth Meyers] My wife and I often say, 1325 01:16:34,136 --> 01:16:36,680 I really hope that we could get to the point in our life 1326 01:16:36,763 --> 01:16:39,558 where we are as good a fit as the two of them together. 1327 01:16:40,350 --> 01:16:42,269 They will both cut the other one off 1328 01:16:42,352 --> 01:16:44,980 the second they think they're saying something stupid. 1329 01:16:45,063 --> 01:16:47,649 If that's not love, I don't know what is. 1330 01:16:48,025 --> 01:16:49,818 -That's not Coldwater. -Yes. 1331 01:16:49,902 --> 01:16:51,111 -No. -Yes. 1332 01:16:51,195 --> 01:16:52,654 -Nope. -Yes. 1333 01:16:52,738 --> 01:16:54,448 I mean, a lot of people just say really fast together 1334 01:16:54,531 --> 01:16:55,991 like, you know, Barry and Diane. 1335 01:16:56,074 --> 01:16:57,201 I mean to me they're separate 1336 01:16:57,284 --> 01:16:58,619 because I knew them separately, 1337 01:16:58,702 --> 01:17:01,121 but I also see them as being together, 1338 01:17:01,205 --> 01:17:02,915 but not so much as like a couple 1339 01:17:02,998 --> 01:17:04,833 in that kinda old-fashioned way. 1340 01:17:04,917 --> 01:17:08,086 You know, the world is now, like, immensely accommodating 1341 01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:09,713 to every kind of relationship. 1342 01:17:13,592 --> 01:17:15,344 [director] Andy Warhol said, "I guess the reason 1343 01:17:15,427 --> 01:17:18,514 "Diller and Diane are a couple is because she gives him straightness 1344 01:17:18,597 --> 01:17:20,432 and he gives her powerfulness." 1345 01:17:21,225 --> 01:17:22,768 What is your response to that? 1346 01:17:24,102 --> 01:17:26,355 Ooh, it could be the other way around. 1347 01:17:26,813 --> 01:17:27,898 Um... 1348 01:17:29,483 --> 01:17:32,986 I don't know what it means. I don't know what it means. 1349 01:17:33,820 --> 01:17:35,739 I think we give each other power. 1350 01:17:39,493 --> 01:17:42,746 It-it seems disrespectful to what we are together. 1351 01:17:43,664 --> 01:17:45,374 We're a great romance. 1352 01:17:46,875 --> 01:17:49,294 What are we going to do when people say, 1353 01:17:49,378 --> 01:17:51,630 isn't it just a marriage of convenience? 1354 01:17:53,715 --> 01:17:56,760 I know, Diane knows our relationship, 1355 01:17:57,719 --> 01:18:00,389 and frankly, while it is of interest to other people, 1356 01:18:00,472 --> 01:18:04,601 and they can speculate the rainbow, who cares? 1357 01:18:05,227 --> 01:18:07,229 [inaudible dialogue] 1358 01:18:08,146 --> 01:18:10,440 Her children and her grandchildren 1359 01:18:10,524 --> 01:18:12,276 became my family... 1360 01:18:14,111 --> 01:18:15,362 and her mother. 1361 01:18:15,445 --> 01:18:17,281 [inaudible dialogue] 1362 01:18:18,532 --> 01:18:19,616 [inaudible dialogue] 1363 01:18:20,284 --> 01:18:22,119 [Fran] Lily lived to be quite old. 1364 01:18:22,202 --> 01:18:24,121 I mean, Diane had her for a long time. 1365 01:18:25,622 --> 01:18:27,916 Diane would take her on these vacations on the boat. 1366 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,335 I mean, most people I know wouldn't, like, choose, 1367 01:18:30,419 --> 01:18:31,628 who do you wanna invite on vacation? 1368 01:18:31,712 --> 01:18:34,756 Mom. Most people, no, they don't wanna invite Mom, um, 1369 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,049 but Diane did. 1370 01:18:36,133 --> 01:18:38,886 [♪ gentle music playing] 1371 01:18:38,969 --> 01:18:41,513 [Diane] My mother lived a long life, 1372 01:18:42,681 --> 01:18:46,476 she died after Antonia was born. 1373 01:18:48,312 --> 01:18:51,064 The day I brought Antonia home for the first time 1374 01:18:51,148 --> 01:18:54,484 is the last time that I ever saw Lily. 1375 01:18:55,068 --> 01:18:57,821 She gave me her word that she was gonna meet my daughter 1376 01:18:57,905 --> 01:19:01,408 and she hung on, barely. 1377 01:19:01,950 --> 01:19:04,620 She walked into the hospital room, she met my daughter. 1378 01:19:05,162 --> 01:19:07,664 They have the same deep brown eyes. 1379 01:19:08,415 --> 01:19:13,462 It was probably the most emotionally intense day of my life 1380 01:19:13,545 --> 01:19:15,756 because I was bringing home my daughter 1381 01:19:15,839 --> 01:19:19,551 but I was saying goodbye to the woman who'd been a mother to me. 1382 01:19:20,594 --> 01:19:22,679 And she passed away about a week later. 1383 01:19:24,515 --> 01:19:27,935 [Antonia Steinberg] I definitely heard a lot of stories about Lily, 1384 01:19:28,018 --> 01:19:29,895 especially from my grandmother. 1385 01:19:29,978 --> 01:19:31,730 Those things that she just repeats, 1386 01:19:32,231 --> 01:19:35,234 "Fear is not an option, don't be a victim." 1387 01:19:36,235 --> 01:19:40,697 That actually is who she is, she is very much like that. 1388 01:19:40,781 --> 01:19:42,824 I think that's hugely to do with Lily. 1389 01:19:47,412 --> 01:19:48,914 [audience cheering] 1390 01:19:48,997 --> 01:19:51,583 Diane von Furstenberg revolutionized style in the 1970s 1391 01:19:51,667 --> 01:19:53,710 when she designed her signature wrap dress. 1392 01:19:53,794 --> 01:19:57,256 Now she's teamed up with her 20-something daughter-in-law, Alexandra 1393 01:19:57,339 --> 01:20:00,717 to relaunch that dress that your mom probably still has in her closet 1394 01:20:01,134 --> 01:20:02,636 and is probably still wearing. 1395 01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,513 [audience applauding] 1396 01:20:04,596 --> 01:20:08,475 Around '98, I was beginning to notice 1397 01:20:09,142 --> 01:20:12,020 the people who actually wanted to wear the wrap dress 1398 01:20:12,104 --> 01:20:14,314 were not the people my age... 1399 01:20:14,398 --> 01:20:17,025 [♪ "One Way Or Another" by Blondie playing] 1400 01:20:17,109 --> 01:20:20,279 ...but they were the very hip girls who would wear them with sneakers. 1401 01:20:20,863 --> 01:20:22,948 [Talita] A whole new generation of girls 1402 01:20:23,031 --> 01:20:25,909 was sort of going through vintage shops 1403 01:20:25,993 --> 01:20:28,245 and buying this dress. 1404 01:20:28,328 --> 01:20:30,038 I've seen so many women who are wearing wrap dresses 1405 01:20:30,122 --> 01:20:31,498 and you're like, "Where did you get that?" 1406 01:20:31,582 --> 01:20:32,708 "Oh, this is my grandmother's." 1407 01:20:32,916 --> 01:20:34,543 [TV presenter 1] In the fashion world, 1408 01:20:34,626 --> 01:20:36,336 everything old becomes new, eventually. 1409 01:20:36,420 --> 01:20:37,796 [TV presenter 2] The wrap is back. 1410 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,339 [Diane] This is a major déjà vu. 1411 01:20:39,423 --> 01:20:41,884 It's like 20 years later doing almost the same thing 1412 01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:43,093 with almost the same dress. 1413 01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:47,514 I was 50 years old, relaunching these dresses 1414 01:20:47,598 --> 01:20:50,017 to a whole cool generation. 1415 01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:55,355 I was totally living what I had lived when I was their age. 1416 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,358 ♪♪ 1417 01:20:58,442 --> 01:21:01,320 I thought, I'm too old to live like old people. 1418 01:21:01,403 --> 01:21:02,946 I need something fresher. 1419 01:21:06,116 --> 01:21:09,995 I found this carriage house on West 12th Street 1420 01:21:10,078 --> 01:21:12,539 in the middle of butchers. 1421 01:21:12,623 --> 01:21:14,666 I mean, my son was horrified. 1422 01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:17,252 You know, you find needles in the morning. 1423 01:21:17,753 --> 01:21:19,963 It was a pretty bad neighborhood. 1424 01:21:21,298 --> 01:21:24,676 Now, of course, I didn't listen to anybody and I bought it. 1425 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:25,886 Come up. 1426 01:21:25,969 --> 01:21:31,099 I turned it into a showroom, office, studio, 1427 01:21:31,183 --> 01:21:34,478 and then I bought the carriage house next door 1428 01:21:35,229 --> 01:21:38,190 and I turned it into this big event space, 1429 01:21:38,273 --> 01:21:40,943 and I would have all kinds of events. 1430 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,154 I became the godmother of that neighborhood. 1431 01:21:45,322 --> 01:21:47,699 [Nathan] Her fashion shows were a bit like a happening. 1432 01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:50,702 It was always an interesting mix of people like, you know, 1433 01:21:50,786 --> 01:21:53,080 there would be some va-va-voom celebrities. 1434 01:21:53,163 --> 01:21:56,333 There would be a lot of kind of New York characters. 1435 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,170 And it became like this huge event. 1436 01:22:01,839 --> 01:22:03,465 It was incredible. 1437 01:22:04,299 --> 01:22:05,801 I don't think we ever 1438 01:22:05,884 --> 01:22:08,595 intended for that to happen, it just happened. 1439 01:22:11,056 --> 01:22:13,934 [Diane] We had a lot of fashion shows all over the world. 1440 01:22:15,102 --> 01:22:17,354 We opened in London, and we opened in Paris, 1441 01:22:17,437 --> 01:22:18,730 and we opened everywhere. 1442 01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:23,777 At that time, I was a visionary again. 1443 01:22:23,861 --> 01:22:25,404 ♪♪ 1444 01:22:25,487 --> 01:22:29,616 From the loser, the nobody, I was a visionary again. 1445 01:22:41,044 --> 01:22:43,839 I'm thinking about our future, right? 1446 01:22:43,922 --> 01:22:45,883 That's what I think about every day. 1447 01:22:47,509 --> 01:22:49,219 [indistinct chatter] 1448 01:22:49,303 --> 01:22:51,680 Yeah, this one you like? 1449 01:22:51,763 --> 01:22:54,975 Will the brand continue, will it stand for something? 1450 01:22:55,058 --> 01:22:56,643 I hope it stands for something. 1451 01:22:56,727 --> 01:23:00,314 This is great, this is super DVF. 1452 01:23:00,397 --> 01:23:02,649 You enlarge it, it's great. 1453 01:23:03,192 --> 01:23:05,194 [Talita] It's her baby, it'll always be her baby. 1454 01:23:05,277 --> 01:23:08,989 She'll never actually be able to, to put a foot out the door ever. 1455 01:23:09,072 --> 01:23:12,534 I kind of like that, but what fabric do you see this, 1456 01:23:12,618 --> 01:23:14,536 to put it with this, the carnation? 1457 01:23:14,620 --> 01:23:16,079 -It's so pretty. -It's so pretty. 1458 01:23:16,163 --> 01:23:18,165 -[Talita] Here... -[Diane] This, I love this print. 1459 01:23:18,248 --> 01:23:19,333 [Talita] Yeah, it's my favorite. 1460 01:23:19,416 --> 01:23:21,210 [Diane] I think you could do another color in that. 1461 01:23:21,293 --> 01:23:23,086 She tries hard, I can see her that she's trying 1462 01:23:23,170 --> 01:23:25,547 and then, but she, like, has to come back in and like, 1463 01:23:25,631 --> 01:23:27,633 "Well, I don't like this print, let's tweak it a little bit." 1464 01:23:27,716 --> 01:23:29,551 It's like a subtle polka dot, so... 1465 01:23:29,635 --> 01:23:31,512 [TV presenter] Please welcome the president 1466 01:23:31,595 --> 01:23:35,766 of the Council of Fashion Designers of America, Diane von Furstenberg. 1467 01:23:37,059 --> 01:23:39,895 [Diane] Now, I didn't call myself a designer 1468 01:23:39,978 --> 01:23:45,234 until I got the lifetime award from the CFDA. 1469 01:23:45,317 --> 01:23:47,236 [director] Why did it take you so long? 1470 01:23:47,319 --> 01:23:50,989 I don't know, I just thought by then I had deserved it. 1471 01:23:54,368 --> 01:23:56,119 [Karlie Kloss] At the time when I first met her, 1472 01:23:56,203 --> 01:23:58,455 she was the president of the CFDA 1473 01:23:58,872 --> 01:24:02,167 and she was already such a champion and force 1474 01:24:02,251 --> 01:24:05,128 for making sure that models have the support around them, 1475 01:24:05,212 --> 01:24:08,465 psychologically, physically, mentally, emotionally. 1476 01:24:09,049 --> 01:24:13,220 I want you to be strong, I want you to feel sexy. 1477 01:24:13,303 --> 01:24:16,139 I want you to be the woman you want to be. 1478 01:24:16,682 --> 01:24:19,101 I want you to smile and love life. 1479 01:24:19,184 --> 01:24:20,686 [cheering] 1480 01:24:22,104 --> 01:24:25,148 I think the need for women to progress 1481 01:24:25,232 --> 01:24:27,359 for her is more important than anything else. 1482 01:24:27,442 --> 01:24:30,195 It's just who she is, it's ingrained in her being. 1483 01:24:31,238 --> 01:24:35,284 [Diane] If I have a voice, it's a responsibility, it's a duty, 1484 01:24:35,367 --> 01:24:39,413 it's an obligation to try to make that useful. 1485 01:24:41,498 --> 01:24:45,252 Where I am in my life now, 1486 01:24:45,335 --> 01:24:48,964 I wanna be able to put myself at the service of women. 1487 01:24:53,427 --> 01:24:54,428 Okay. 1488 01:24:54,511 --> 01:24:56,555 [stylist speaking French] 1489 01:24:56,638 --> 01:24:58,473 [speaking French] 1490 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,395 [line rings] 1491 01:25:03,478 --> 01:25:05,105 [Tatiana] [on phone] Hey. 1492 01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:06,732 -[Diane] Tats? -[Tatiana] Hello. 1493 01:25:06,815 --> 01:25:11,695 [Diane] Hi, darling, so I am, I am doing my makeup now. So... 1494 01:25:11,778 --> 01:25:13,864 [Tatiana] Okay, so you're about to go do the awards? 1495 01:25:13,947 --> 01:25:18,035 Uh, yes, and I want your blessing. 1496 01:25:20,329 --> 01:25:24,291 [Tatiana] Okay, well, just remember to be present, 1497 01:25:24,374 --> 01:25:26,543 -one person at a time... -Nice. 1498 01:25:26,627 --> 01:25:29,880 [Tatiana] ...just by putting it together, you've already done your job. 1499 01:25:30,339 --> 01:25:31,465 Be the vessel. 1500 01:25:31,548 --> 01:25:33,842 -Okay, so present. -[Tatiana] So... 1501 01:25:34,927 --> 01:25:36,929 Yeah, just stay present-- 1502 01:25:37,012 --> 01:25:40,265 And be the, and be the vessel, wonderful, 1503 01:25:40,349 --> 01:25:42,559 I love you. I love you, Tats, merci. 1504 01:25:42,643 --> 01:25:43,977 [speaking French] 1505 01:25:44,061 --> 01:25:45,145 [kisses] 1506 01:25:45,938 --> 01:25:47,814 I speak to my children every day, 1507 01:25:48,565 --> 01:25:51,360 probably twice a day, at least. 1508 01:25:52,528 --> 01:25:56,323 They've known me since I was 23, 24, so... 1509 01:25:57,866 --> 01:26:01,703 You know, I am a feminist, I've always been a feminist, 1510 01:26:02,329 --> 01:26:06,708 and I, I have enormous faith in women. 1511 01:26:06,792 --> 01:26:08,585 [speaking French] 1512 01:26:10,295 --> 01:26:11,296 Yeah? 1513 01:26:11,380 --> 01:26:14,049 My role is just helping connect, expand, 1514 01:26:14,132 --> 01:26:15,843 inspire, and advocate. 1515 01:26:15,926 --> 01:26:18,971 [crowd applauding] 1516 01:26:19,054 --> 01:26:22,808 The DVF award started in 2010. 1517 01:26:23,225 --> 01:26:28,772 Since then, we have honored 66 incredible women, 1518 01:26:28,856 --> 01:26:35,112 badass women leaders in 186 countries. 1519 01:26:35,487 --> 01:26:38,448 [cheering and applause] 1520 01:26:38,532 --> 01:26:42,536 Like these women, my mother demonstrated 1521 01:26:42,911 --> 01:26:47,749 that she had the courage to fight, the strength to survive, 1522 01:26:47,833 --> 01:26:50,002 and the leadership to inspire. 1523 01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:54,756 [Nadia Murad] Both of us have been inspired by our mothers. 1524 01:26:55,340 --> 01:26:59,261 So when she told me about her mother, 1525 01:26:59,344 --> 01:27:02,764 I just, you know, felt so connected to her. 1526 01:27:02,848 --> 01:27:04,308 ♪♪ 1527 01:27:04,391 --> 01:27:05,392 [indistinct chatter] 1528 01:27:05,475 --> 01:27:11,106 What DVF exemplifies is a desire 1529 01:27:11,190 --> 01:27:13,775 to lift other women up in every way. 1530 01:27:14,735 --> 01:27:17,654 It's deeply personal and real for her 1531 01:27:17,738 --> 01:27:21,825 to make life better for women who have no voice, 1532 01:27:21,909 --> 01:27:24,286 for women who are unseen. 1533 01:27:24,369 --> 01:27:25,537 [inaudible dialogue] 1534 01:27:25,621 --> 01:27:28,665 I was very lost, uh, when I met Diane. 1535 01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,126 She was the first person who didn't see me 1536 01:27:31,210 --> 01:27:33,504 as a victim of the war. 1537 01:27:33,587 --> 01:27:37,841 Sometimes she just randomly reaches out and says, 1538 01:27:38,258 --> 01:27:39,801 "How are you, darling?" 1539 01:27:41,345 --> 01:27:44,139 And that means a lot. 1540 01:27:44,223 --> 01:27:45,974 [inaudible dialogue] 1541 01:27:46,892 --> 01:27:49,520 [Hillary] She gets it, you know, she gets the struggles 1542 01:27:49,603 --> 01:27:52,272 that women are facing across the world, 1543 01:27:52,356 --> 01:27:53,857 and I think she's made a real difference. 1544 01:27:55,859 --> 01:27:57,778 You could look at Diane, oh, everything's perfect, 1545 01:27:57,861 --> 01:28:00,614 she married the right people, she had these beautiful children. 1546 01:28:00,697 --> 01:28:02,449 Her life, she's famous, she's gorgeous. 1547 01:28:03,408 --> 01:28:07,162 But you have to look at what has created that. 1548 01:28:07,246 --> 01:28:09,748 And in her case, it's a story of her mother. 1549 01:28:55,419 --> 01:28:58,505 Being in charge is a commitment to yourself. 1550 01:29:00,883 --> 01:29:03,093 [♪ gentle piano music playing] 1551 01:29:07,973 --> 01:29:10,726 From the minute I was 22, I worked, I got pregnant, 1552 01:29:10,809 --> 01:29:12,561 I got married, I never stopped. 1553 01:29:13,979 --> 01:29:16,315 If this is my third act starting, 1554 01:29:16,398 --> 01:29:19,902 if I am now beginning the winter of my life, 1555 01:29:20,694 --> 01:29:25,073 I don't know how long of a winter I will have, 1556 01:29:25,657 --> 01:29:31,663 but I hope I will have a winter where I can have an impact. 1557 01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:34,416 -Talita. -Talita, that's good. 1558 01:29:34,499 --> 01:29:37,044 The, uh, Leon, the head of the table. 1559 01:29:37,127 --> 01:29:38,795 -[Barry] That's nice. -Vito, and then Ken. 1560 01:29:38,879 --> 01:29:41,006 -Okay, you like my placement? -Your placement's... 1561 01:29:41,089 --> 01:29:42,257 [Diane] [in French] Placement. 1562 01:29:42,341 --> 01:29:45,010 [Barry] I said placement, or did I say placement? 1563 01:29:45,093 --> 01:29:46,094 [Diane] Placement. 1564 01:29:46,178 --> 01:29:47,179 [Barry] Whatever. 1565 01:29:47,888 --> 01:29:50,224 [Diane] I don't really like the word "retired," 1566 01:29:50,307 --> 01:29:53,268 but now it's about legacy. 1567 01:29:53,602 --> 01:29:55,521 I mean, what have I left behind? 1568 01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:59,066 The biggest thing I've left behind is my family. 1569 01:29:59,149 --> 01:30:00,692 Hi! 1570 01:30:00,776 --> 01:30:04,154 -Oh, you are wearing a watch. -Really? 1571 01:30:04,238 --> 01:30:05,531 Yours. 1572 01:30:05,614 --> 01:30:07,824 I know, I know, and what did I write in the back? 1573 01:30:08,242 --> 01:30:13,121 "Leon, enjoy every moment of your life, love DD, 2019." 1574 01:30:13,205 --> 01:30:15,165 -Right, isn't that adorable? -Yep. 1575 01:30:15,582 --> 01:30:18,293 [Diane] They will continue my life. 1576 01:30:19,336 --> 01:30:22,798 Just like I continued for my mother and I continued for my grandmother. 1577 01:30:22,881 --> 01:30:24,299 -Hi. -Hey. 1578 01:30:25,008 --> 01:30:26,218 [Diane moans] 1579 01:30:26,301 --> 01:30:28,387 You're the sweetest, the best. 1580 01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:29,847 You came first. 1581 01:30:30,597 --> 01:30:32,808 -You just, you just deliver. -On time. [chuckles] 1582 01:30:33,392 --> 01:30:34,393 Hi. 1583 01:30:34,935 --> 01:30:37,855 [Diane exclaims] Oh... 1584 01:30:37,938 --> 01:30:40,357 [both speaking French] 1585 01:30:46,947 --> 01:30:50,117 [Diane] No, it was a movie, it was Love... 1586 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,743 -Love... -Love Actually. 1587 01:30:52,911 --> 01:30:54,663 [Diane] The adventure of... 1588 01:30:55,831 --> 01:30:58,458 my own life has been incredible, 1589 01:30:59,168 --> 01:31:02,045 and I would like my life to be useful, 1590 01:31:02,129 --> 01:31:04,381 not only to my family 1591 01:31:05,549 --> 01:31:08,510 or to my work, but also to others. 1592 01:31:09,052 --> 01:31:13,724 Somehow my life has been a conduit. 1593 01:31:13,807 --> 01:31:15,350 For whatever reason, 1594 01:31:15,434 --> 01:31:20,147 I had a voice very, very early on. 1595 01:31:20,522 --> 01:31:24,026 And therefore, I have used that voice 1596 01:31:24,693 --> 01:31:26,195 to the best I could. 1597 01:31:31,783 --> 01:31:33,535 [breathing heavily] 1598 01:31:34,203 --> 01:31:37,122 So it's not finished on purpose 1599 01:31:37,706 --> 01:31:41,919 because I don't wanna be finished until somebody goes in. 1600 01:31:45,464 --> 01:31:47,132 [director] So where are we going? 1601 01:31:47,216 --> 01:31:49,092 [Diane] In, in the cemetery. 1602 01:31:50,219 --> 01:31:51,845 My resting place... 1603 01:31:52,888 --> 01:31:54,848 where I will become a mushroom. 1604 01:31:59,561 --> 01:32:01,688 [birds cawing] 1605 01:32:03,649 --> 01:32:05,609 This is where I come every day. 1606 01:32:09,738 --> 01:32:11,698 [director] Now why do you come here every day? 1607 01:32:12,491 --> 01:32:14,701 Because it's so reassuring. 1608 01:32:15,452 --> 01:32:17,371 It's such a good spot. 1609 01:32:17,454 --> 01:32:21,250 Sunset goes there, peaceful. 1610 01:32:23,627 --> 01:32:25,462 [director] Do you think about death often? 1611 01:32:25,546 --> 01:32:26,672 All the time. 1612 01:32:27,047 --> 01:32:28,549 All the time. 1613 01:32:28,632 --> 01:32:30,217 But always have. 1614 01:32:31,176 --> 01:32:32,928 But with zero fear. 1615 01:32:35,138 --> 01:32:37,140 They say, uh... 1616 01:32:37,558 --> 01:32:41,478 "Life is a journey and death is the destination." 1617 01:32:41,979 --> 01:32:44,022 So we die for sure. 1618 01:32:44,106 --> 01:32:47,276 So I can't even understand people who don't think about it. 1619 01:32:47,359 --> 01:32:49,486 But my husband, he doesn't wanna think about it. 1620 01:32:51,321 --> 01:32:54,616 I don't think I could live without thinking that I could die anytime, 1621 01:32:54,700 --> 01:32:57,494 because that allows me to have more gratitude 1622 01:32:58,954 --> 01:33:00,664 and to enjoy life. 1623 01:33:05,335 --> 01:33:07,045 You see, you'll come and visit me here. 1624 01:33:10,924 --> 01:33:12,259 [chuckles] 1625 01:33:12,634 --> 01:33:15,721 [♪ "She's A Rainbow" by The Rolling Stones playing] 1626 01:33:23,187 --> 01:33:26,064 ♪♪ 1627 01:33:31,737 --> 01:33:34,281 ♪ She comes in colors everywhere ♪ 1628 01:33:34,698 --> 01:33:36,325 ♪ She combs her hair ♪ 1629 01:33:36,825 --> 01:33:39,953 ♪ She's like a rainbow ♪ 1630 01:33:40,621 --> 01:33:42,998 ♪ Coming, colors in the air ♪ 1631 01:33:43,707 --> 01:33:45,209 ♪ Oh, everywhere ♪ 1632 01:33:46,043 --> 01:33:49,922 ♪ She comes in colors ♪ 1633 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,886 ♪ Have you seen her all in gold? ♪ 1634 01:33:58,263 --> 01:34:00,682 ♪ Like a queen in days of old ♪ 1635 01:34:02,434 --> 01:34:04,895 ♪ She shoots colors all around ♪ 1636 01:34:04,978 --> 01:34:06,605 ♪ Like a sunset going down ♪ 1637 01:34:06,688 --> 01:34:09,900 ♪ Have you seen a lady fairer? ♪ 1638 01:34:11,026 --> 01:34:13,695 ♪ She comes in colors everywhere ♪ 1639 01:34:14,154 --> 01:34:16,323 ♪ She combs her hair ♪ 1640 01:34:16,406 --> 01:34:18,909 ♪ She's like a rainbow ♪ 1641 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,829 ♪ Coming, colors in the air ♪ 1642 01:34:22,913 --> 01:34:24,540 ♪ Oh, everywhere ♪ 1643 01:34:25,082 --> 01:34:28,418 ♪ She comes in colors ♪ 1644 01:34:28,502 --> 01:34:30,587 [♪ scatting] 1645 01:34:32,923 --> 01:34:34,132 [♪ song ends] 1646 01:34:36,468 --> 01:34:39,137 [♪ gentle music playing] 1647 01:35:16,508 --> 01:35:18,802 ♪♪ 1648 01:35:31,398 --> 01:35:32,941 [♪ music fades] 1649 01:35:34,234 --> 01:35:36,236 [♪ bright peppy music playing] 1650 01:36:12,022 --> 01:36:14,691 ♪♪ 1651 01:36:34,086 --> 01:36:36,547 ♪♪ 1652 01:37:11,415 --> 01:37:12,791 [♪ music fades out] 123910

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