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[woman on radio]
Well, good morning, Sacramento,
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if you're just joining us it's 8:38 am,
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it's a beautiful day out there so makethe most of the things that...
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[Vince Boston]
Finally, after all these years,
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we're getting something done
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and I guess my patience finally paid off.
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I had told the police
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that me and my brother witnessed
my dad murdering Chris and Peta.
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I was prepared to just give my testimony,
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but I knew I was puttingmy life in my hands.
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He can kill you,he can bury you in the backyard
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and he's gotten away with it
more than once.
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Yeah, I'm looking over my shoulder,but I have to make my dad
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accountable for his crimes and stop him
from hurting somebody else.
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We just couldn't believe that
we were in this position
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after so many decades.The FBI had tracked Boston down.
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[Marcus Knutson] We obtainedinformation that he was staying
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that he was staying
at a senior care facility
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in Eureka, California.
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[Penny Farmer] I was very vengeful,
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I wanted my pound of flesh off him.
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He was aged 75,
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and all this time he was still a free man.
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[Marcus] We were
going to arrest Silas Duane Boston
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for the homicides of Peta and Chris.
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This guy has killed
multiple people before,
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and I wasn't gonna take it lightly.
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[Penny]
We felt that justice was within our grasp.
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[David Sesma] We go to his room...
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and he's not there.
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I don't think he can be caught,
he covers his tracks too well.
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My heart started beating,
he's got away again.
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[Vince] It made me sick to my stomach
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because I'm the snitch, he might be trying
to find me to come and kill me.
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{\an8}[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[Penny] Where is he?
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We were assuredhe'd been under surveillance
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{\an8}and that there is no way he can move
anywhere.
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{\an8}We determined that two days prior
to us arriving in Eureka
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{\an8}he had transferred to another
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{\an8}senior care facility
in Paradise, California.
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We are flying along Highway 36,
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probably a four or five-hour drive.
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[Penny] We felt he'd slipped away again,
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and we were
not going to see justice again.
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[Marcus]
Our concern is we don't know
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if the nurse is calling over there
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and we don't want him to go on the run.
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I come around the corner and sitting there
in a wheelchair,
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kind of moving his self with his legsis Duane.
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You could see his eyes just got big.
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{\an8}We tell him that he's under arrest
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{\an8}for the murders
of Chris Farmer and Peta Frampton.
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[Marcus] He really didn't say anything,
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if you didn't know what he had doneto Peta and Chris
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you'd be like oh that justlooks like a nice old guy
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sitting there in a wheelchair
but just feel kind of a coldness, erm,
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that was there.
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He was a bad guythat needed to go to jail.
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This was a win for Peta and Chris.
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75-year-old Silas Duane Boston
was tracked down by the FBI
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and arrested in a Paradise
convalescent home.
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Charged with murdering
a young Manchester couple
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in Guatemala nearly 40 years ago.
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Christopher Farmer and Peta Frampton,
from Manchester are boyfriend, girlfriend,
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they'd just finished at university,
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they were celebrating their graduationwith around the world trip.
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{\an8}[Reporter] Both Farmer and Framptonwere tortured, and hog tied,
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{\an8}thrown in the middle of the oceanto drown.
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[Reporter 2] The case would go coldfor nearly four decades.
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Someone from England had the original file
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in their garden shed, you know,
I mean this, does it get better than that?
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Yes!
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{\an8}Got you, you black hearted bastard.
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[Reporter 3] Silas Duane Bostonwas arrested
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after Greater Manchester Police
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reopened the case at the requestof the victims' families.
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[Penny] I went downstairsto tell mum the good news,
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after 38 very long years he was finally
in custody.
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We opened a bottle of champagne
and raised a glass to Chris and Peta.
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[Audrey Farmer] Over 30 years of silence.
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{\an8}I know what it have meant to Charles
to know he was arrested.
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He'd always begged the police to let usspeak to the two boys.
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Once again, the case came alive.
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Everything changed.
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{\an8}He's under arrest, he's in custody,
now it's actually going to happen.
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[Vince] When I saw that mugshotfor the first time it was shocking
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{\an8}because I hadn't seen him
in so many years, he didn't look the same.
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I always knew thatthere was a monster beneath the mask
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but now it's like the maskhas been lifted, I felt physically ill,
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I couldn't look at it.
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[Reporter] At the time of the murders,Russell and Vince were 11 and 13
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but in interviews this year they toldan FBI agent
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they saw their father kill the couple.
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[Penny] We were very grateful
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that the boys were prepared to get
onto the witness stand
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and testify against their father.
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{\an8}[Audrey] I had feltvery antagonistic towards the boys
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but then I hadn't realised
they were obviously scared stiff of him.
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If he's found guilty of killing Frampton
and Farmer, he'll face the death penalty
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or life in prison.
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[Vince] So how do you feel? We got him?
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Great you know, let's jump cartwheels
and, you know, slap high fives all round.
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It was a relief of a huge burden.
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I didn't wanna be afraid anymore.
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But I felt these mixed emotions,
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I'm the one that's started the machinery
to put him to his death,
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that's my dad, you know?
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I'm, I'm killing my dad,
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the good guy with the bad guy,
you can't separate the two.
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[Reporter] It's an extraordinary storythis, isn't it? A young couple
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from Manchester disappear
nearly 40 years ago
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and now finally the law authorities
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in the United States believe
that they do know
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how they were killed, how they were
murdered and who was responsible.
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[Penny]
We wanted the world to know he was guilty.
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But I was aware that being arresteddidn't mean that he was convicted.
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We knew we were in for a longand messy trial.
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All our faith and hope was put
in Matt Segal the prosecutor.
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{\an8}[Matthew Segal] In 2015 I was
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the Chief of the Special Prosecutions Unit
of the US Attorney's Office
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for the Eastern District of California.
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This was an extraordinary case.
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Two people were murdered
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and the man who did it evaded justicefor 38 years
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and his two sons say
that they saw him kill them.
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You can't kill people
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and if there's a prosecutable case
of murder it has to be charged.
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[Lexi Nagin] It's in the United States'Constitution that people are entitled
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to be proven guiltybeyond a reasonable doubt.
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I'm a Federal Public Defender
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and I was appointed to represent
Duane Boston in the case against him.
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I became a Public Defenderbecause I wanted to represent people
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who didn't have the money to hire,
you know, fancy attorneys.
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[Matthew] The Defence Attorney
is straight out of central casting
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for your Federal Public Defender
with a lot of experience and smarts.
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My job is to hold the government's feet
to the fire,
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and I have absolutely no problem,
um, fighting that fight,
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they're innocent until proven guiltyand I believe in that very strongly.
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If you were accused of something,
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you would want me
to represent you that way.
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I was glad that he was gonna get
the best representation,
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it was a serious accusation.
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But we were gonna go 100%,no matter who was representing him.
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Like you can't just lock people up,
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a jury of 12 regular people has to decide
beyond a reasonable doubt,
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yeah, that happened, he did it.
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I only need one juror to have a doubt.
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Could we face the awful thought
of getting an innocent verdict?
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[Vince] Any seed of doubt in the story,
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one little chink in the armour
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and he's walking out.
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{\an8}[Lexi] I start reading the complaint
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{\an8}and it's a much stranger complaintthan normal.
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To have a homicide case
from the1970s was incredibly unusual,
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to have a case that took place in,
allegedly, Guatemala was highly unusual,
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and Vincent and Russell's story
is very compelling and it seems true
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on the surface,
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but when the story is being told
with such creative details
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it just doesn't ring true as people who
are telling something 30 years later
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that actually happened.
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[Matthew] They corroborate each other,
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they're telling substantially
the same story about what they saw
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because that is what they saw.
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The words that were spoken,
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supposedly Chris saying,
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"What's your game, man? What's your game?"
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The billy club broke after the beating,
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even sitting with the naked persontied up, alone,
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none of it read to me like
facts of a case.
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Those kinds of details actually raise
a red flag to me as being untruthful.
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[Lexi] When somethingvery traumatic happens
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your brain goes to places to protect you
and you sometimes can't remember details
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or can't even see details.
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There's a lot of studies about eyewitness
identifications of traumatic events
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where one person's telling of itis completely different
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from another person's telling
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because their brains are just working
in ways to protect them from this trauma.
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[Lexi] Neither one of the boys said
it's been a really long time,
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I was very traumatised by it,
I put it out of my mind,
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or I repressed itand so I don't really remember
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but I know I saw this thing happen.
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If there's no contemporaneous writing
or contemporaneous way of recording
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people just don't remember those things.
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The mind's not a tape recorder
and memory's sometimes not exactly valid.
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[water splashing]
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But all I can do is tell the story
of what I saw in front of my own eyes.
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[Matthew]
Any effective defence would require
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a cross examination
for the ages of those guys.
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The motive for Russell and Vincent
to lie about their dad
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was very apparent to me, I mean,
that was something
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that just kind of screamed off the page.
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The boys were convinced
from a very young age that their father
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had killed their mother.
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Everyone knows he's killed her.
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I'm gonna tell you exactly
what he did to my mom.
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[upbeat music playing]
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[Vince]
The earliest memories I have of our mom
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she was in the kitchen,
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playing The Beatles,
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that was one of her favourite groups.
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Somehow, we started calling her
Mommy Mary Lou.
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And I just remember this warm feeling
that she loved us kids
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and we were her whole world.
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When she met my dad, she was 17,
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which is still considered a minor
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and my dad was a few years old.
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The story was she ran away with himwith 25 bucks in her pocket.
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It scared her familythat she had fallen for dad.
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Dad could be very charming
if he wanted to be,
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especially over women.
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At first, he was a caring dad,
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but he turned.
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He was doing drugs and partying
and eventually being abusive.
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She had to get away from him.
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She started dating someoneand filed for a divorce,
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but he wouldn't let her leave.
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He took her to an orchard
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and told her he was going to shoot her.
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While she was running,
he shot her in the back.
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[gunshot]
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Then he buried her
in a shallow grave somewhere.
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We don't know where.
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Grandma told us
your dad showed me his hands,
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he had blisters on his hands
from digging her grave
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and he was crying and saying,
"I had to kill Mary, I had to shoot her
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"because she was gonna leave meand I didn't wanna lose my kids".
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When she went missingthe police questioned my dad,
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he said that they were separated,
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she had emptied the savings account,
and she was dating this radio disc jockey
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and he never saw her again.
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I think at the time, in the late sixties,
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a woman was thought
that she should be in the kitchen
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just not dating anybody else
when she's getting a divorce
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so like, "Hey,
you know, she's going on with her life."
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She was getting away from his abuse.
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What were they thinking back then?
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He killed my mom in cold blood,
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they just took everything he saidas if it's the truth, they let him go.
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And then meanwhile
my mom's in a shallow grave somewhere.
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We haven't been able to find outwhere my mom is,
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my dad actually told us himself
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that we'll never find her
in a million years,
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and that he buried her in
or near a creek bed,
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and the creek bed caved in on her.
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Where could he have taken her?
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He told us that he loved my mom
and out of all the people that he killed,
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she's the only one he regrets killing.
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When you murder somebody's motherfor your own selfish needs
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and say, "I did it because I love you."
Really? Is that love?
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You sicken me.
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I think this was the first timehe was able to commit a murder
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and talk his way out of it.
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And I think it set things up
for the future for him,
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realising that if he did things
a certain way
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he could get away with murder
over and over again.
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[Penny] When somebody's missing,it's horrible,
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you can't think about anything else,
you can't come to terms with it.
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Desperate, absolutely desperate,
you don't know what to do,
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you don't know who to turn to.
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I think it's human nature to wanna know
what happened,
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to get some kind of a closure,
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even though you know they can't come back.
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If my dad's convicted,
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he might finally tell mewhere he buried my mom.
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[Lexi] Vincent spenta tremendous amount of effort
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trying to get them to reopenthe investigation
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into their mother's disappearance, um,
it's unclear whether she died,
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they never found a body
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and they just simply weren't gettingany traction there.
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They were told by family members
from a young age that Peta and Chris
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had gone missing and that
they had last been on the boat
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and that police officerswere investigation Mr Boston.
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So they know he's a suspect in this.
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The story of Chris and Peta
was always told in combination with
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"Let's find him responsible for killing
our mother."
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I'm looking for an opportunityto raise doubt about their credibility.
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In this case I'm very confident
that I have a lot to say.
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[Matthew] The attack on Vinceand Russ is, "You just made this up
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"to get back at your dad
because you think he murdered your mom,"
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which is crazy in itself as a defence.
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So now Duane looks like
a three times murderer
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who, when he kills, does his bestto dispose of the bodies in a way
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that they'll never be found.
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So, it's a tough position for the defence,
in my opinion.
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It's very problematic for me,
except I think the way I would do that
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is I would cross examine and say,
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"You believe that your fatherwas responsible for killing your mother."
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"You know that he was clearedof doing that and that made you angry,
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"you believed in your heartthat that's what happened
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"because that's what
your grandmother told you."
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[Director] Why did your grandma
tell you that?
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[Vince] Maybe in her mindshe felt some guilt
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and even though she would never turn in
little Duaney, her son, her baby,
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she wanted us to know the truth.
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She knew that he was killing people,
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and she would chastise him,
"Duane, you can't be doing that".
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But she would tell us kids,
"You gotta keep the family circle intact".
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That's why he committed
so many crimes and got away with them.
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Through this investigation back in 1981
I know that his father knew where he was,
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but his father enabled him
by concealing him.
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[Vince] My grandpa pretty muchfunded the trip down to Mexico and Belize
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because dad was facing charges
for statutory rape.
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{\an8}I remember one night, I woke up and heard
the young woman in distress.
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[muffled scream]
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It wasn't unusual for him
to bring home ladies,
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but this was different.
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And she was saying, "Just stop",
"No, please stop" in, in a crying voice.
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The next morning he's like,
"Hey, about last night...
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"dummy up, shut the fuck up about that".
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This young ladywho was under the age of consent,
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so they were able to press charges
of statutory rape against my dad.
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Next thing we know he wentand got us passports
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and headed down to Belize.
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A few weeks later grandpa came down
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and, er, brought us moneyand bought us a boat.
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The Justin B.
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The rape charges were dropped
for whatever reason, I don't know.
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Grandpa knew but he didn't tell dad.
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I think that if dad knew
we would've come back home.
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[Penny] It was just so gallingto think if Boston had been told
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he wouldn't have met Chris and Peta.
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{\an8}You just think I wish
you'd never been there, you know?
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Their paths crossing the way they did.
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They were lambs to the slaughter.
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{\an8}[Matthew] Duane was deepin this western outlaw culture...
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doing crime, not talking about it,
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and he conveyed a lot of that forcefully,
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for decades, to his sons.
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It was a really big deal when they finally
told the police what their dad had done.
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[Penny] It restored your faith in humanity
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that they had tried to do something,
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that they hadn't replicated
his grotesque human nature,
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if you can call him human.
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[Vince] He's an evil guy,
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that's actually killing people
and hurting people.
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In my mind he committed these crimes
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and he deserved to face judgement,
even if it was 20, 30, 40, 50 years later.
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[Lexi] Obviously in a modern casewe'd wanna see photographs,
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we'd wanna see that rope,
we would wanna see,
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you know, how their hands were bound,
and a modern autopsy
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would document all of those things.
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The evidence we hadwas very old documents,
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lots of dead witnesses,
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we didn't have the autopsy report
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and there's no DNAwhich was strange to me.
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The last time the bodies were seenwas in the seventies.
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By the records of the exhumation
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they put the bodies under markedgrave markers in Guatemala.
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This makes the case very strong
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if they have those bodies
and they have DNA.
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I assume it's coming.
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We had sent some agents down to Guatemala
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to locate the graves of Chris and Peta.
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We had planned to exhume the skeletons
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and send those up to the FBI laboratory
to be held, er, for trial.
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[Penny] I was toldit's really important because then
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it will give us the DNA match to yours,
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but the cemetery was very chaotic,
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and it was proving very hard.
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Unfortunately, they couldn't find
the grave sites,
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I was extremely disappointedI couldn't make that happen.
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[Penny] We were horrified.There were photographs of their graves
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and it was a very well documented
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and witnessed exhumation.
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This was really worrying.
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[Lexi] It's very complex to decide
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that those bodies are Peta and Chris
without DNA testing.
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Peta and Chris could've
gotten off the boat
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and something could've happened
to them after.
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I don't have to prove anything,
I just raise reasonable doubt.
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If we could've recovered a body
from that cemetery,
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gotten DNA out of it, you know,
and matched it to the families
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then we would've absolutely known,
in a completely incontrovertible way,
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but I just keep returning to the fact,
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that we had two eyeball witnesses
to these murders,
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they corroborated each other
and they were corroborated by documents.
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There's a Belize port document
that Charles Farmer got that says,
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"Hey, who was on the boat?"
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"It was Duane,Chris, Peta, Russ and Vince".
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But Chris and Peta weren't on the boatwhen they got to Livingston.
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And we knew we had something
when we had Peta's letter.
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[Penny] 13th June 1978.
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"Dear mum, all our plans have changed,
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"an American called Duane, who ownsa Belizean boat called the Justin B
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"offered to take us up Chetumal by sail.
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"We thought it was an opportunitynot to be missed,
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"especially as Chriswants sailing experience."
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It puts her on the boat, the Justin B,
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it puts her with Duane and two kids,
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{\an8}it's almost like she was speaking to us,
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{\an8}then the letter is posted on July 18th,
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that was about a week
after the bodies washed up,
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so it wasn't Peta who sent that letter.
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I remember dad looking at the envelope,
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if he mails it then that gives hima few extra days,
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because then they think,
"Oh, they're still alive".
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He ended up mailing it in Livingston.
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{\an8}And then it turns out that Boston
saved a lot of stuff over time.
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My dad kept Chris' cassette tapes.
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Russ found them in my dad's belongingsand handed them over to the police.
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It was horrible that Boston had kept hold
of Chris' much loved music tapes
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that he'd cherished and put together
from all his vinyl records.
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It was just a further violation.
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That's powerful circumstantial evidence
and if the jury believes the two sons
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the only verdict is "guilty",
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because they are eyeball witnesses
to the murders.
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[Vince] I was ready for it.
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I can't get wrapped up
if I'm gonna be attacked personally
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or discredited or thrown under the bus,
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all I could do is tell the truthand be the best witness I could be.
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Bring it on, I have the truth on my side.
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[Penny] Boston had been in custodyfor two months at this point.
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We were just absolutely desperateto get to trial.
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We were worried.
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They couldn't find the bodies.
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But we felt we had a very strong case
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because of Vince and Russell's testimonies
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and that we would win.
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We were asked if we wanted to seek
the death penalty and my mother,
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really without hesitation said, "No".
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[Audrey] There's somethingabsolutely abhorrent about legal death.
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Although the, you know,
he'd done unspeakable things,
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I don't think that killing somebodyreally solves anything.
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[Matthew] We wanted to go quicklyso we could get a conviction
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before anything happened to Audrey,
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but the government's not in chargeof that, the court is
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and so we had to persuade the court
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to set a speedy trial.
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We ended up in district courtbefore the trial judge.
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[Reporter] The 75-year-old who wheeledinto a Sacramento Federal Courtroom
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this afternoon seemed feeble
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{\an8}and needed a listening deviceto hear court proceedings.
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{\an8}But the Silas Duane Boston describedin this federal complaint was
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{\an8}anything but weak 38 years ago.
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When I saw Boston come into the courtroom
for the first time,
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I noticed how awful he looked.
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[Lexi] He was obviously very ill,and we could see that before our eyes,
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he was in a wheelchair,he's on medication,
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he was losing weight already,
I mean, he was a very sick man.
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If we were the last stop to being able
to deliver justice for a double murder,
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then that had to happen.
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But the defence is trying to delay trial.
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[Lexi] We just couldn't committo a sooner trial when we're not ready.
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If we needed attorney client time with him
to get the case together,
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he was going to have to bea little bit healthy.
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[Penny] My mumwrote a letter to the judge.
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[Audrey] "Dear Sir, I'm writing to askif you will please consider setting a date
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"as soon as possible for the trialof Silas Duane Boston
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"for the murder of my beloved son,
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"Dr Christopher Farmer and his girlfriend,Peta Frampton.
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"The brutal manner in which my son's lifewas taken has left an enduring
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"and very painful gap in my family's life,which no amount of time will heal,
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"but I will derive a sense of closurefrom knowing that his killer
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"has been apprehendedand appropriately sentenced."
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We were given a provisional trial date
of October 2nd,
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and we couldn't wait to face him in court.
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[Det. Jim Kelly] I was hoping, every day,that I would get that call telling me
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be in this Sacramento court on this date,
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at this time and I was ready, I was ready,
I would leave in a heartbeat.
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I wanted to look him in the eye
across the courtroom
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and convey an unspoken message to him,
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"Got you."
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[Sue Dobson] All I kept thinking ishow are they going to secure a conviction?
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Will they be able to provideunequivocal evidence?
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Will the jury decide to find him guilty?
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He has to be guilty.
I just wanted to kill him.
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[Penny] Mum was 92,
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I think she felt it was the last thingthat she could do for Chris,
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to stand in that courtroomand face Boston.
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I want to draw a line under it.
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After all these years...
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We'd finally got him.
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Now let's go convict him.
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[phone buzzing]
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[Vince] I get a call,
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your dad has passed away.
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He just died in custody
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and my head just starts spinning.
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[Penny] The message came throughabout 2:00 in the morning,
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it just said,
"Silas Duane Boston has died".
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I went and woke mum up and just said,"He's dead".
483
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,440
It was just so depressing.
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00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,760
We were powerless, again.
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{\an8}When the suspect died in jailbefore standing trial,
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{\an8}what impact did that haveon you and your family?
487
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,040
We were devastated,
it was just a further blow,
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err, we came two weeks away
from going over to Sacramento
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to give pre-trial evidence and, err,
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00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,240
he effectively exited life
on his own terms,
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00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560
he didn't want us to have justice.
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00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,880
[Penny] We were told by his medical team
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that he refused food and his medicine,
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so in effect he took his life.
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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,640
He knew that we knew he'd killed them,
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he couldn't face us.
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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Four months in custody doesn't reallyequate to the four decades
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00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,080
where we didn't know what had happened.
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00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,120
I knew that this case
had been ever present
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00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,880
in their moment-to-moment daily lives,
501
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,400
but criminal cases and criminal trials
do not necessarily bring people any peace.
502
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,560
He might not have been convictedand then what?
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00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,240
Do you have your peace?
Do you have your closure
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00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,800
even though there's no jury conviction?
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00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,640
[Matthew] I'm disappointed.
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00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,360
It would've been a great, great trial
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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,680
but what happened to him was always
what I had planned for the case,
508
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,640
in the sense that
he didn't walk free again post arrest.
509
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,880
The sons were essential
510
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,920
in providing what justice
we could provide in this case.
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[Vince] Death is pretty permanent,
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there's no coming back from that,
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no matter what feelings I had toward him
this was a finality, a chapter closing,
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00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,400
he's never going
to be on this planet again.
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00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120
This evil monster is gone.
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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,920
I remember we'd go to the parks here
in Sacramento and fly kites
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and he'd tied and he'd tied the kiteonto a fishing line.
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00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520
It had got so high in the air
that it was just a little dot
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00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,520
and he was like, "Whoa,that's the highest kite in the world",
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00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960
and we're like, "Yay" it's pretty cool.
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00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,880
[crying]
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He wasn't always bad, he wasn't always
a horrible person
523
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,920
and that's what made it rough,
if he was an asshole all the time
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00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,720
it'd be easy to deal with.
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00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,200
But when...
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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000
it's just confusing as a child,
527
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:30,200
it's like this is a cool dad
that you want to bond with,
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00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,600
but you know what he's capable of.
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00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,640
[Penny] The evil that he did,it had such a reach,
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00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,200
not just for my family but the Framptons
and, and his own family.
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00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,800
[Vince] A lot of people have suffered,
532
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,920
everybody that could've known my mom,
533
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120
she was an amazing artist, she could've
shared that art with the world
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00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,480
or Chris was a doctor, 25 years old,
535
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
think of all the livesthat he could've saved,
536
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,480
Peta was an attorney, think ofall the people that she could've helped,
537
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,560
and it's not just that one person,
it's everybody in their circle.
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00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,320
[Audrey] I can remember Chriswas about 12,
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00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:25,280
we were out for a walk
and I had a moment of complete happiness,
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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,760
he and I were walking hand in hand
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00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,880
and I thought, you know,how lovely life is.
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00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,800
I do remember that,when we were just the two of us together.
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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,080
It was a fleeting moment
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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,880
and I don't think I've ever
quite experienced that again.
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00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,600
[Penny] Boston never gave Vinceand Russell the satisfaction of knowing
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00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,800
where he'd buried Mary Lou.
547
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,840
I'll forever have the pain
of losing my mom.
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00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680
I am trying to find herso I can bring her home,
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00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,400
as human beings we want that closure,
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00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
letting her rest in peace
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00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,000
instead of buried like trash
in a shallow grave somewhere.
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00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Maybe it's beautiful,
553
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,160
maybe it's picturesque
554
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,800
if there's a river there and mountainsor something.
555
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,720
But there's an unexplainablefeeling of wanting to know where she is.
556
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,840
[birds chirping]
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00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,560
[Penny] Even now, I still feelthat there's somebody missing.
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00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,560
[Director] Do you think one of your ways
of coping was this fight for justice?
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00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,840
Oh, absolutely.
560
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Law enforcement failed ustime and time again.
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00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,720
Our family was the only point of cohesion,
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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920
the only constant.
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00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,720
Now to an update on a story
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00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,880
which we have reported
on North West Tonight
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00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,840
several times in the past, the murders
of the Manchester couple
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00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Chris Farmer and Peta Frampton on a yacht,
40 years ago in Guatemala.
567
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Well, their families were told the remains
had been lost forever
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00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,840
and even the FBI couldn't find them,
569
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,240
but new clues led Chris' sister
to a remote graveyard.
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00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,560
{\an8}[Audrey] When you lose somebodythe most devastating thing is
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everybody else forgets them,
but you don't, and you don't want to.
572
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,960
[Penny] What survives after death is love.
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00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,800
As a hurt party you want justice.
574
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,360
It doesn't make amends,
575
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,320
but you at least feel
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00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,520
{\an8}that you have done everything you can
to have avenged their murders.
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00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,840
- [Penny] Found them!
- [man] What?
578
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,440
- [Penny] I've found Chris!
- That's amazing.
579
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,640
It's extraordinary, isn't it?
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00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
{\an8}[Penny] I was just amazed to find them.
581
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,520
{\an8}It was such a relief.
582
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Boston never counted on us having
the fortitude and strength and love
583
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,040
to fight back for Chris and Peta.
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00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:42,880
He thought they would be just forgottenand disappear into that ocean
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00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,360
never to be seen again.
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00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,880
But how wrong was he?
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00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,520
They will live on in a differentsort of way, on a different plane.
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00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,160
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