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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,571 --> 00:00:03,834 BULL: I'm Dr. Jason Bull. I'm not a lawyer. 2 00:00:03,878 --> 00:00:07,316 I'm an expert in what's called trial science. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,146 I study the jury's behavioral patterns. 4 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:13,453 I know what they're thinking before they do. 5 00:00:14,715 --> 00:00:18,371 Everything my team learns gets plugged into a matrix, 6 00:00:18,414 --> 00:00:21,330 which allows us to assemble a mirror jury 7 00:00:21,374 --> 00:00:24,116 that is scary in its predictive efficiency. 8 00:00:26,596 --> 00:00:29,077 The verdict you get depends on me. 9 00:00:29,121 --> 00:00:32,080 And that's no bull. 10 00:00:36,084 --> 00:00:37,955 ♪ 11 00:00:37,999 --> 00:00:40,001 [indistinct chatter] 12 00:00:41,481 --> 00:00:44,484 ELLEN: Welcome to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff, 13 00:00:44,527 --> 00:00:46,181 a true crime podcast 14 00:00:46,225 --> 00:00:48,923 investigating the unsolved murder of college athlete 15 00:00:48,966 --> 00:00:51,926 Mike Tasker, considered a "golden boy" 16 00:00:51,969 --> 00:00:53,406 for Hudson University's basketball team. 17 00:00:53,449 --> 00:00:54,755 Three years ago, 18 00:00:54,798 --> 00:00:58,541 Mike was found shot to death in Central Park, 19 00:00:58,585 --> 00:01:00,543 the apparent victim of a robbery gone bad. 20 00:01:00,587 --> 00:01:03,503 With no leads since the murder, 21 00:01:03,546 --> 00:01:04,591 the case had gone cold-- 22 00:01:04,634 --> 00:01:06,375 that is, until earlier this year 23 00:01:06,419 --> 00:01:07,942 Open and Shut unearthed a rape allegation 24 00:01:07,985 --> 00:01:11,206 from another college student named Reese Burton 25 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:13,078 that the police knew nothing about. 26 00:01:13,121 --> 00:01:16,124 Three years ago, she filed an anonymous complaint 27 00:01:16,168 --> 00:01:18,866 accusing Mike of sexually assaulting her on campus. 28 00:01:18,909 --> 00:01:21,216 The next week, Reese bought a gun, 29 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:22,870 began stalking Mike, 30 00:01:22,913 --> 00:01:24,741 and the following week, she threatened him. 31 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:27,179 That was the night he was killed. 32 00:01:27,222 --> 00:01:29,529 All of this was unknown 33 00:01:29,572 --> 00:01:30,704 until my investigation began. 34 00:01:30,747 --> 00:01:32,662 Three years later, Reese's DNA 35 00:01:32,706 --> 00:01:34,359 has been placed at the scene of the murder, 36 00:01:34,403 --> 00:01:35,665 a damning piece of evidence 37 00:01:35,709 --> 00:01:37,885 that will most certainly land Reese behind bars. 38 00:01:37,928 --> 00:01:41,802 You are listening to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 39 00:01:41,845 --> 00:01:43,847 REPORTER: The news media has gone wild 40 00:01:43,891 --> 00:01:46,154 over the sensational new podcastOpen and Shut. 41 00:01:46,198 --> 00:01:48,113 If the cops arrest you, 42 00:01:48,156 --> 00:01:50,115 you're guilty of something. 43 00:01:50,157 --> 00:01:52,552 I love being a part of something everyone's talking about. 44 00:01:52,595 --> 00:01:53,988 It makes me feel connected. 45 00:01:54,031 --> 00:01:55,381 Sad to say, 46 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:57,470 a good story spreads faster than the truth. 47 00:01:57,513 --> 00:02:00,342 Doesn't matter if you really did it. 48 00:02:00,386 --> 00:02:03,476 All that matters is that people think you did it. 49 00:02:03,519 --> 00:02:06,609 You don't look like a lawyer from Legal Aid. 50 00:02:06,653 --> 00:02:08,742 Technically, I'm a psychologist. 51 00:02:08,785 --> 00:02:12,180 I'm... Dr. Jason Bull. 52 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:14,617 Are you analyzing me? 53 00:02:14,661 --> 00:02:15,705 Yes. 54 00:02:15,749 --> 00:02:17,533 But that's not why I'm here. 55 00:02:17,577 --> 00:02:19,753 I'm here because you need help. A lot of help. 56 00:02:19,796 --> 00:02:21,537 Not the kind of help you're gonna get from Legal Aid. 57 00:02:21,581 --> 00:02:25,367 Trial Analysis Corporation? 58 00:02:25,411 --> 00:02:27,152 How do you help with trials? 59 00:02:27,195 --> 00:02:30,198 I change people's minds for a living. 60 00:02:30,242 --> 00:02:32,244 Especially the jury's. 61 00:02:32,286 --> 00:02:34,594 Have you heard the podcast? 62 00:02:34,637 --> 00:02:35,638 No. 63 00:02:35,682 --> 00:02:38,641 It's not really my thing. 64 00:02:38,685 --> 00:02:40,904 I don't believe in "open and shut," 65 00:02:40,947 --> 00:02:44,169 especially when it's made to entertain 25 million people. 66 00:02:44,212 --> 00:02:46,562 I want to hear you tell me the story. 67 00:02:46,606 --> 00:02:49,391 Right. 68 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:51,567 Last time a stranger approached me 69 00:02:51,611 --> 00:02:54,135 and asked for my story, well... 70 00:02:54,179 --> 00:02:55,876 Ellen Huff sandbagged me 71 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,270 and twisted everything I said to make me into a killer. 72 00:02:58,313 --> 00:03:00,663 So you can't blame me if my trust is wearing thin. 73 00:03:00,707 --> 00:03:03,013 Okay. 74 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:04,493 I understand. 75 00:03:04,537 --> 00:03:06,930 Enjoy prison. It was nice to meet you. 76 00:03:09,629 --> 00:03:10,630 Wait. 77 00:03:10,673 --> 00:03:12,806 Where are you going? 78 00:03:12,849 --> 00:03:15,809 Well, I thought we were through. 79 00:03:18,246 --> 00:03:20,074 Why do you think I'm innocent? 80 00:03:25,427 --> 00:03:29,475 Because rape survivors react in different ways. 81 00:03:29,518 --> 00:03:31,520 And rage is one of those. 82 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,655 Enough rage to kill their perpetrator? 83 00:03:35,697 --> 00:03:37,221 Absolutely. 84 00:03:37,265 --> 00:03:39,093 But that's not how you reacted. 85 00:03:39,136 --> 00:03:40,486 The way you reacted... 86 00:03:40,529 --> 00:03:43,967 You can't fake that kind of pain. 87 00:03:45,882 --> 00:03:47,275 Why don't you tell me 88 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:49,756 why this podcast is full of crap? 89 00:03:59,983 --> 00:04:03,552 I met Mike at this Phi Delt party. 90 00:04:03,596 --> 00:04:05,598 He walked me home. 91 00:04:06,903 --> 00:04:08,644 He asked to use the bathroom. 92 00:04:11,865 --> 00:04:13,867 [scoffs] 93 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:15,912 I was so naive. 94 00:04:17,305 --> 00:04:19,611 The next day, I reported it to the administration. 95 00:04:19,654 --> 00:04:21,875 I... 96 00:04:21,918 --> 00:04:24,399 They said they would "look into it." 97 00:04:24,443 --> 00:04:26,662 But the Hudson University basketball team 98 00:04:26,706 --> 00:04:28,316 made it into the finals that year. 99 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,622 Ah. 100 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:31,493 And they were gonna protect their star player. 101 00:04:31,537 --> 00:04:32,973 Didn't matter. 102 00:04:33,016 --> 00:04:34,148 A few weeks later, Mike was dead 103 00:04:34,191 --> 00:04:35,715 and that was the end of it. 104 00:04:35,758 --> 00:04:36,716 I got a job, made new friends, 105 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,587 put it behind me. 106 00:04:38,631 --> 00:04:40,763 And then, three years later, Ellen Huff 107 00:04:40,807 --> 00:04:42,591 uncovers your complaint against Mike? 108 00:04:42,635 --> 00:04:45,594 Yeah, this claim that I filed anonymously. 109 00:04:45,638 --> 00:04:48,771 'Cause I didn't want to forever be that girl... 110 00:04:48,815 --> 00:04:50,207 that girl that was raped. 111 00:04:50,251 --> 00:04:52,645 After Ellen outed me, 112 00:04:52,688 --> 00:04:54,299 the police reopened the case. 113 00:04:54,342 --> 00:04:57,214 They said that my hair matched a hair on Mike's jacket, 114 00:04:57,258 --> 00:05:01,654 and boom, my world is upside-down. 115 00:05:01,697 --> 00:05:03,656 But Ellen twisted all the facts. 116 00:05:03,699 --> 00:05:05,701 What about this hair on the jacket 117 00:05:05,745 --> 00:05:07,355 that's a perfect DNA match? 118 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:09,792 That makes sense. 119 00:05:09,836 --> 00:05:12,795 The night Mike was killed, he was wearing the same jacket 120 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,841 as the night he wore when he... 121 00:05:17,583 --> 00:05:19,802 ...you know. 122 00:05:22,065 --> 00:05:23,980 I didn't kill Mike. 123 00:05:26,069 --> 00:05:28,245 I believe you. 124 00:05:30,813 --> 00:05:32,119 [lock buzzes] 125 00:05:32,162 --> 00:05:34,034 [door opens] 126 00:05:34,077 --> 00:05:35,905 Can you get me out of here? 127 00:05:37,167 --> 00:05:38,386 [sniffs] 128 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:40,388 I take it this case is pro bono. 129 00:05:40,432 --> 00:05:42,782 Which is why you need to try it. 130 00:05:42,825 --> 00:05:44,218 Think that's a compliment? 131 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:46,263 You have heard the podcast. 132 00:05:46,307 --> 00:05:47,961 I will, as soon as we've done our research. 133 00:05:48,004 --> 00:05:49,571 And I know she was a victim. 134 00:05:49,615 --> 00:05:50,789 She's still a victim, 135 00:05:50,833 --> 00:05:52,661 a second time. 136 00:05:52,705 --> 00:05:55,055 We're trying this case, Benny. 137 00:05:55,098 --> 00:05:56,143 Okay. 138 00:05:56,186 --> 00:05:58,406 Good. Good. 139 00:05:58,450 --> 00:06:01,670 I've been eager to step back in the ring with the D.A.'s office. 140 00:06:01,714 --> 00:06:04,369 I wonder who I get to knock gloves with. 141 00:06:11,811 --> 00:06:13,943 Amanda. 142 00:06:13,987 --> 00:06:16,381 Did you know she was prosecuting this case? 143 00:06:19,558 --> 00:06:20,646 Benny. 144 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:21,821 Amanda. 145 00:06:21,864 --> 00:06:24,127 What a surprise. 146 00:06:24,171 --> 00:06:26,173 I heard you were working with your brother-in-law. 147 00:06:26,216 --> 00:06:28,175 Ex-brother-in-law. Dr. Jason Bull. 148 00:06:28,218 --> 00:06:29,916 Your reputation precedes you. 149 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,136 So... how have you been? 150 00:06:33,180 --> 00:06:34,137 Busy. 151 00:06:34,181 --> 00:06:35,835 I didn't realize 152 00:06:35,878 --> 00:06:37,140 you were still trying cases. 153 00:06:37,184 --> 00:06:38,272 I was fired. 154 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:39,926 I didn't die. 155 00:06:39,969 --> 00:06:41,667 That's not what I meant. 156 00:06:41,710 --> 00:06:43,843 Anyways, you shouldn't take this to trial. 157 00:06:43,886 --> 00:06:44,974 It's open and shut. 158 00:06:45,018 --> 00:06:46,367 BAILIFF: All rise. 159 00:06:46,411 --> 00:06:49,414 The Superior Court of New York is now in session. 160 00:06:49,457 --> 00:06:52,155 State v. Reese Burton, 161 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:56,812 case number 0255348. 162 00:06:57,857 --> 00:06:59,162 How do you plead? 163 00:07:03,776 --> 00:07:05,778 Not guilty, Your Honor. 164 00:07:06,953 --> 00:07:08,476 BULL: Reese, it's a good sign 165 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,956 the judge granted bail. 166 00:07:09,999 --> 00:07:13,133 Chin up, back straight, don't smile, don't frown, 167 00:07:13,176 --> 00:07:14,743 don't look at anyone.REPORTER: Reese! 168 00:07:14,787 --> 00:07:16,266 You're not guilty; there's nothing to be ashamed of. 169 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:18,138 REPORTER 2: Reese, do you expect a fair trial? 170 00:07:18,181 --> 00:07:20,053 [reporters clamoring] 171 00:07:20,096 --> 00:07:21,228 I can't catch my breath. 172 00:07:21,271 --> 00:07:22,795 Okay. Taxi! 173 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:27,408 Hey, reporters, media! 174 00:07:27,452 --> 00:07:28,583 Have we got a show for you! 175 00:07:28,627 --> 00:07:30,498 Whoa! 176 00:07:30,542 --> 00:07:32,805 So gather round, gather round, ladies and gentlemen! 177 00:07:32,848 --> 00:07:35,329 Whatever your pleasure, we here, we got a great show for you! 178 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:36,852 Now, I know you don't want to... 179 00:07:36,896 --> 00:07:38,593 [continues indistinctly] 180 00:07:38,637 --> 00:07:39,725 ...that you really don't want to talk to. 181 00:07:39,768 --> 00:07:41,466 ♪ 182 00:07:43,555 --> 00:07:45,818 MARISSA: Are we onThe Amazing Race? 183 00:07:45,861 --> 00:07:47,559 'Cause I left my running heels at home. 184 00:07:47,602 --> 00:07:48,560 Right. 185 00:07:48,603 --> 00:07:49,996 I just want to get back to TAC 186 00:07:50,039 --> 00:07:51,301 and start testing this case. 187 00:07:51,345 --> 00:07:53,042 Look, if this is about Amanda... 188 00:07:53,086 --> 00:07:54,174 Whoa, hey. 189 00:07:54,217 --> 00:07:55,914 Are you accusing me of fast walking 190 00:07:55,958 --> 00:07:57,569 to avoid talking about Amanda? 191 00:07:57,612 --> 00:07:58,961 Defensive much? 192 00:08:00,006 --> 00:08:01,790 How did you guys end it? 193 00:08:01,834 --> 00:08:03,749 Not well. 194 00:08:03,792 --> 00:08:04,967 You know? 195 00:08:05,011 --> 00:08:06,229 I didn't plan to quit the D.A.'s office, 196 00:08:06,273 --> 00:08:08,580 but there I was, in front of two reporters, 197 00:08:08,623 --> 00:08:10,930 about to get a conviction on a man I knew was innocent. 198 00:08:10,973 --> 00:08:12,453 I just... 199 00:08:12,497 --> 00:08:14,629 I couldn't do it. 200 00:08:14,673 --> 00:08:17,545 You're the Jerry Maguire of the American judicial system. 201 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:19,416 Yeah, well... 202 00:08:19,460 --> 00:08:22,855 I guess I thought Amanda was gonna be my Renée Zellweger. 203 00:08:22,898 --> 00:08:24,857 That she'd come with me when I left. 204 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:26,380 Her loss, our gain. 205 00:08:27,729 --> 00:08:29,949 CABLE: Don't sweat the mock trial, okay? 206 00:08:29,992 --> 00:08:31,733 It's all just part of the process. 207 00:08:31,777 --> 00:08:35,868 I'm not worried, I just don't like the idea of 208 00:08:35,910 --> 00:08:38,304 having more strangers judging me. 209 00:08:38,347 --> 00:08:39,785 I can't imagine why. 210 00:08:39,828 --> 00:08:40,960 [phone chimes] 211 00:08:41,003 --> 00:08:42,875 So, certain tonal frequencies 212 00:08:42,918 --> 00:08:46,574 are known to have a measurable effect on brain function, 213 00:08:46,618 --> 00:08:49,534 and I wrote this app that creates music 214 00:08:49,577 --> 00:08:52,145 to help you relax, focus... 215 00:08:52,188 --> 00:08:54,321 It helps me to block out distractions-- 216 00:08:54,364 --> 00:08:56,628 namely, Dr. Bull. 217 00:08:59,282 --> 00:09:02,329 [soothing tonal landscape playing] 218 00:09:02,372 --> 00:09:03,809 I like it. 219 00:09:03,852 --> 00:09:06,289 It's not exactly Tin Lizard, but... 220 00:09:06,333 --> 00:09:08,074 it's cool. 221 00:09:08,117 --> 00:09:09,902 You're into the Lizard? 222 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,078 They're awesome. 223 00:09:12,121 --> 00:09:14,123 Okay, well, I might have info 224 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:15,734 that they're playing a super secret show 225 00:09:15,777 --> 00:09:17,866 and you should totally come. 226 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:18,867 Yeah, yeah. 227 00:09:18,911 --> 00:09:20,303 I just might have plans. 228 00:09:20,347 --> 00:09:22,175 You know, like jail. 229 00:09:22,218 --> 00:09:24,133 Have faith. 230 00:09:24,177 --> 00:09:26,745 Dr. Bull might be generationally challenged, 231 00:09:26,788 --> 00:09:27,920 but he's the best. 232 00:09:27,963 --> 00:09:30,096 Where is Dr. Bull? 233 00:09:30,139 --> 00:09:32,228 Prosecuting your case 234 00:09:32,272 --> 00:09:33,447 right how. 235 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:36,058 The week after she filed an assault claim, 236 00:09:36,102 --> 00:09:37,277 Reese went out and purchased 237 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,931 a nine-millimeter handgun. 238 00:09:38,974 --> 00:09:41,237 And two weeks later, she got her chance to use it. 239 00:09:41,281 --> 00:09:44,066 She followed Mike to a concert in Central Park. 240 00:09:44,110 --> 00:09:47,243 She threatened to shoot him 241 00:09:47,287 --> 00:09:51,247 and, hours later, Mike Tasker was shot to death. 242 00:09:51,291 --> 00:09:53,510 Bull would've made a hell of a prosecutor. 243 00:09:53,554 --> 00:09:54,729 Huh. 244 00:09:54,773 --> 00:09:57,123 Never seen the trend line spike so fast. 245 00:09:57,166 --> 00:09:58,211 I mean, 70's a problem. 246 00:09:58,254 --> 00:10:00,866 80's.... intent to convict. 247 00:10:00,909 --> 00:10:03,912 90's... burn her at the stake. 248 00:10:03,956 --> 00:10:05,697 [exhales] 249 00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:07,350 She's guilty. 250 00:10:07,394 --> 00:10:08,743 MIRROR JUROR: I agree. 251 00:10:08,787 --> 00:10:09,657 MIRROR JUROR 2: Who heard her making the threat? 252 00:10:09,701 --> 00:10:10,789 I mean, did that really happen? 253 00:10:10,832 --> 00:10:13,313 It was Mike's friend, Rob McKellen. 254 00:10:13,356 --> 00:10:15,184 They're bringing things up from the podcast. 255 00:10:15,228 --> 00:10:17,883 I thought we put together people who hadn't heard it. 256 00:10:17,926 --> 00:10:20,755 I did, and we instructed them not to listen to it. 257 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:22,278 What? 258 00:10:22,322 --> 00:10:25,630 These two were downloading the podcast during lunch? 259 00:10:25,673 --> 00:10:27,109 As soon as they left the building. 260 00:10:27,153 --> 00:10:28,371 It's wet paint. 261 00:10:28,415 --> 00:10:30,504 They can't help but touch it. 262 00:10:30,547 --> 00:10:32,549 It's corrupted every member of the jury. 263 00:10:33,986 --> 00:10:35,378 BENNY: We need to sequester the jury. 264 00:10:35,422 --> 00:10:39,992 Judge Rand has denied 22 requests for sequesters 265 00:10:40,035 --> 00:10:44,474 out of 22, citing "a waste of taxpayer dollars." 266 00:10:44,518 --> 00:10:46,128 Well, the podcast is already out there. 267 00:10:46,172 --> 00:10:48,391 [sighs] It's been field-tested by 25 million people. 268 00:10:48,435 --> 00:10:50,176 BENNY: If Amanda follows Ellen's narrative, 269 00:10:50,219 --> 00:10:51,394 she'll get a conviction. 270 00:10:51,438 --> 00:10:52,613 Or... 271 00:10:52,657 --> 00:10:55,007 we replace Ellen's story with a better one. 272 00:10:55,050 --> 00:10:57,705 I'm listening. 273 00:10:57,749 --> 00:11:00,055 Let me tell you a little story 274 00:11:00,099 --> 00:11:02,623 about an incompetent journalist. 275 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:05,495 She takes a rape victim and falsely accuses her 276 00:11:05,539 --> 00:11:07,323 of murder. 277 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:08,368 [beeps] 278 00:11:10,239 --> 00:11:12,502 It's time to put Ellen on trial. 279 00:11:12,546 --> 00:11:15,549 We are going to dismantle her podcast. 280 00:11:15,592 --> 00:11:18,030 Reese Burton and her defense team have subpoenaed my files 281 00:11:18,073 --> 00:11:19,771 in a desperate attempt to distract the jury 282 00:11:19,814 --> 00:11:20,946 from a guilty client. 283 00:11:20,989 --> 00:11:22,512 Ms. Huff? Will you be sharing 284 00:11:22,556 --> 00:11:23,731 your information with the court? 285 00:11:23,775 --> 00:11:25,472 Freedom of the press is one of our most sacred 286 00:11:25,515 --> 00:11:27,561 constitutional rights. Woodward and Bernstein, 287 00:11:27,604 --> 00:11:30,956 Daniel Ellsberg. I, too, protect my sources.[laughs] But are... 288 00:11:30,999 --> 00:11:32,740 Aren't those journalists from some of the greatest 289 00:11:32,784 --> 00:11:34,481 news organizations in the country? 290 00:11:34,524 --> 00:11:36,352 Sadly, those dinosaurs are no longer relevant. 291 00:11:36,396 --> 00:11:38,833 Today, citizen journalists fulfill the important work 292 00:11:38,877 --> 00:11:40,748 of the Fourth Estate, and I'll go to jail 293 00:11:40,792 --> 00:11:43,446 before compromising the integrity of my podcast. 294 00:11:43,490 --> 00:11:45,448 [excited chatter] 295 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:51,237 And the cell door closes on Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 296 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,326 We don't have to worry about her releasing any more episodes 297 00:11:53,369 --> 00:11:54,762 as long as she's in jail. 298 00:11:54,806 --> 00:11:57,025 So, you're a reporter now? 299 00:11:57,069 --> 00:11:59,462 I'm a citizen journalist. I have a blog, 300 00:11:59,506 --> 00:12:02,248 check it out.CABLE: Yeah, we write about anything and everything 301 00:12:02,291 --> 00:12:04,554 having to do with Reese's case. 302 00:12:04,598 --> 00:12:06,774 With Ellen in jail, we can control the narrative, 303 00:12:06,818 --> 00:12:07,949 so, Cable, 304 00:12:07,993 --> 00:12:09,646 why don't you go behind Instagram on Mike, 305 00:12:09,690 --> 00:12:11,083 see what social media has to say. 306 00:12:11,126 --> 00:12:13,085 We have a jury pool list yet? 307 00:12:13,128 --> 00:12:15,565 70 have daughters. 308 00:12:15,609 --> 00:12:17,219 82 have sons. 309 00:12:17,263 --> 00:12:19,265 People with daughters should be on our side. 310 00:12:19,308 --> 00:12:20,483 Let's build a full motivational matrix 311 00:12:20,527 --> 00:12:22,616 of every possible juror's thoughts on Mike, 312 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:26,098 Reese, rape on campus and college basketball. 313 00:12:26,141 --> 00:12:28,404 Which jurors have abuse in their background? 314 00:12:28,448 --> 00:12:30,842 I'm still investigating, but... it's a lot. 315 00:12:30,885 --> 00:12:33,453 I mean, statistically, one in four. 316 00:12:33,496 --> 00:12:36,369 So, Danny, let's dig into the witness list. 317 00:12:36,412 --> 00:12:39,851 We need alternative theories, unfollowed leads. 318 00:12:39,894 --> 00:12:42,854 Our case hinges on finding the facts that Ellen ignored. 319 00:12:42,897 --> 00:12:44,986 On it. 320 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:46,988 How'd you know she'd put herself in jail 321 00:12:47,032 --> 00:12:48,903 if we subpoenaed her raw interviews? 322 00:12:48,947 --> 00:12:51,123 Well, the podcast gave her notoriety, 323 00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:53,429 but...Oh. 324 00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:55,867 falling on the sword gave her what she really wanted. 325 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:58,608 Legitimacy. 326 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:00,697 How much time you think we've bought? 327 00:13:00,741 --> 00:13:03,048 Well... as long as Ellen's integrity will hold up 328 00:13:03,091 --> 00:13:05,528 against the county jail food. 329 00:13:05,572 --> 00:13:07,139 [crunches] 330 00:13:07,182 --> 00:13:09,271 Two days, max. 331 00:13:14,973 --> 00:13:15,930 CHUNK: Reese, you're going to appear in front of 332 00:13:15,974 --> 00:13:17,410 the jury today. 333 00:13:17,453 --> 00:13:20,674 What you wear in court is as important as what you say. 334 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:23,590 You're wearing... 335 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:24,852 I don't know what you're wearing. 336 00:13:24,896 --> 00:13:29,814 But it's at least three sizes too big. 337 00:13:29,857 --> 00:13:31,816 They're comfortable. 338 00:13:31,859 --> 00:13:34,209 That's not comfort, Mama, that's camouflage. 339 00:13:34,253 --> 00:13:36,864 If you hide in front of the jury in all that, 340 00:13:36,908 --> 00:13:38,779 they're gonna think you have something tohide. 341 00:13:40,172 --> 00:13:43,044 Silk. It softens the look, 342 00:13:43,088 --> 00:13:44,872 and I'm sewing your pockets shut. 343 00:13:44,916 --> 00:13:47,309 Why? 344 00:13:47,353 --> 00:13:50,225 [chuckles] Look... your hands are in your pockets... 345 00:13:50,269 --> 00:13:53,011 People automatically think you're 346 00:13:53,054 --> 00:13:55,187 being dishonest when they can't see your hands. 347 00:13:55,230 --> 00:13:56,362 How we doing? 348 00:13:56,405 --> 00:13:57,885 Is it too late to run? 349 00:13:57,929 --> 00:13:59,844 I usually advise my clients to run 350 00:13:59,887 --> 00:14:01,193 beforethey get arrested. 351 00:14:01,236 --> 00:14:03,891 Um... 352 00:14:03,935 --> 00:14:05,893 Dr. Bull, this is, um... 353 00:14:05,937 --> 00:14:07,808 this is... getting a little... too real...Reese, it's okay. 354 00:14:07,852 --> 00:14:10,028 You're having a panic attack. Come sit down. 355 00:14:10,071 --> 00:14:12,247 Just repeat after me. Okay? 356 00:14:12,291 --> 00:14:16,904 One, two, three, seven, eight, four, two. 357 00:14:16,948 --> 00:14:18,993 [exhales] What? 358 00:14:19,037 --> 00:14:20,342 One, two, three, 359 00:14:20,386 --> 00:14:22,344 seven, nine, 11, six. 360 00:14:22,388 --> 00:14:24,564 [gasping]: One, two, 361 00:14:24,607 --> 00:14:26,871 three, nine... 362 00:14:29,308 --> 00:14:33,268 One, two, three... 363 00:14:33,312 --> 00:14:34,966 seven, nine, 364 00:14:35,009 --> 00:14:37,011 eleven... 365 00:14:38,317 --> 00:14:40,275 six. 366 00:14:42,495 --> 00:14:44,976 How did you do that? 367 00:14:45,019 --> 00:14:49,806 The mind can't freak out and count numbers out of order. 368 00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:51,983 How long you been having these panic attacks? 369 00:14:52,026 --> 00:14:54,942 Ever since... 370 00:14:54,986 --> 00:14:57,249 Mike. I, um... 371 00:14:57,292 --> 00:15:01,035 [sniffles] I usually just go running and it calms me down. 372 00:15:01,079 --> 00:15:03,168 Well, when this is over, 373 00:15:03,211 --> 00:15:06,040 you're gonna go running whenever you want. 374 00:15:06,084 --> 00:15:08,782 Not because you have to. 375 00:15:10,175 --> 00:15:12,351 Which do you prefer? 376 00:15:12,394 --> 00:15:13,961 Still life with fruit, 377 00:15:14,005 --> 00:15:15,441 or this abstract painting?Your Honor, 378 00:15:15,484 --> 00:15:17,617 we're trying to hold a voir dire session here, 379 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:19,445 not an auction at Sotheby's. 380 00:15:19,488 --> 00:15:21,577 I prefer neither, Mr. Colón. 381 00:15:21,621 --> 00:15:23,014 Understood, Your Honor, 382 00:15:23,057 --> 00:15:25,277 but I do have the right to ask the question. 383 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,322 Not for long. Proceed. 384 00:15:29,107 --> 00:15:30,369 Uh, definitely the fruit. 385 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:32,153 I like to know what I'm looking at.Hmm. 386 00:15:32,197 --> 00:15:33,894 What are we doing with art... 387 00:15:33,938 --> 00:15:36,679 and fruit? How does this help? 388 00:15:36,723 --> 00:15:37,985 People who like abstract paintings 389 00:15:38,029 --> 00:15:41,989 are open to new ideas. New stories. 390 00:15:42,033 --> 00:15:43,121 We just don't want to let the other side 391 00:15:43,164 --> 00:15:45,471 know what we're fishing for. 392 00:15:45,514 --> 00:15:48,039 How many of you prefer the fruit? 393 00:15:48,082 --> 00:15:50,693 Okay. Jurors number four, seven and 12-- 394 00:15:50,737 --> 00:15:53,174 move to strike, Your Honor. 395 00:15:55,307 --> 00:15:57,483 [beeps]BENNY: What should the penalty be for rape? 396 00:15:57,526 --> 00:15:58,701 Prison. 397 00:15:58,745 --> 00:16:00,007 Five years minimum. 398 00:16:00,051 --> 00:16:01,008 He has a daughter? 399 00:16:01,052 --> 00:16:03,097 Granddaughters. Twin teenagers. 400 00:16:03,141 --> 00:16:05,317 He dotes on him.BULL: He's in. 401 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,796 Tell me about this ray of sunshine, 402 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,973 Tom. 403 00:16:09,016 --> 00:16:10,844 MARISSA: 64. Divorced. 404 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:12,628 Three times. 405 00:16:12,672 --> 00:16:15,066 We did a motivational matrix on Tom. 406 00:16:15,109 --> 00:16:16,893 Yeah, Bull. 407 00:16:16,937 --> 00:16:18,765 He uses very aggressive language when he's online. 408 00:16:18,808 --> 00:16:21,246 Who's next if we bounce him? 409 00:16:21,289 --> 00:16:23,117 Uh, Wade Macklin. 32. 410 00:16:23,161 --> 00:16:27,817 Unmarried. Uh, professional organizer. 411 00:16:27,861 --> 00:16:31,299 Well, I like the sweater and the scruff. 412 00:16:31,343 --> 00:16:34,259 But he puts things in boxes for a living. 413 00:16:34,302 --> 00:16:36,609 We only have one strike left. 414 00:16:36,652 --> 00:16:39,133 Hmm. 415 00:16:39,177 --> 00:16:42,006 [sighs] Okay. 416 00:16:42,049 --> 00:16:43,442 Does Wade have a pet? 417 00:16:43,485 --> 00:16:45,096 Labradoodle. 418 00:16:45,139 --> 00:16:47,054 He had back surgery last year. 419 00:16:47,098 --> 00:16:48,621 Cost Wade a whopping six grand. 420 00:16:48,664 --> 00:16:49,795 So cute. 421 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:52,016 Oh, Wade. 422 00:16:52,059 --> 00:16:56,020 He may be rigid, but he has a heart. 423 00:16:56,063 --> 00:16:58,196 He loves his dog. 424 00:17:03,549 --> 00:17:05,203 The defense would like to thank this juror 425 00:17:05,246 --> 00:17:09,249 for his time and service. Move to strike, Your Honor. 426 00:17:09,294 --> 00:17:10,382 I'm 32 years old. 427 00:17:10,425 --> 00:17:11,992 I'm 32 years old. 428 00:17:12,036 --> 00:17:13,080 I lived in Paris for two years. 429 00:17:13,123 --> 00:17:14,950 I lived in Paris for two years. 430 00:17:14,995 --> 00:17:16,040 I'm an artist. 431 00:17:16,083 --> 00:17:17,518 I'm an artist. 432 00:17:17,563 --> 00:17:18,781 I work on Wall Street. 433 00:17:18,824 --> 00:17:20,348 I work on Wall Street. 434 00:17:20,392 --> 00:17:23,872 We managed to assemble a mirror jury that makes me tingly 435 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:25,919 in its perfection. Their demographics line up 436 00:17:25,962 --> 00:17:27,616 82% with the actual jury. 437 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:29,923 BULL: How's the initial polling?Uh, three on the fence. 438 00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:31,229 Nine strongly in favor of conviction. 439 00:17:31,272 --> 00:17:33,144 Doesn't sound like perfection if you're Reese. 440 00:17:33,187 --> 00:17:34,232 What... exactly as predicted, 441 00:17:34,275 --> 00:17:35,624 given the court of public opinion. 442 00:17:35,668 --> 00:17:37,539 At least these are the type open to considering 443 00:17:37,583 --> 00:17:38,888 an alternate narrative. 444 00:17:38,932 --> 00:17:41,239 Cable, what did you find on Mike 445 00:17:41,282 --> 00:17:43,110 that the jury has not heard yet? 446 00:17:43,154 --> 00:17:45,286 A lot, starting with the fact 447 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:47,810 that Hudson University had dozens 448 00:17:47,854 --> 00:17:49,247 of unreported sexual assault claims. 449 00:17:49,290 --> 00:17:51,945 And none of them ended in criminal charges. 450 00:17:51,988 --> 00:17:53,990 And this story about sexual assault on the Hudson campus 451 00:17:54,034 --> 00:17:55,731 that was in the New York Ledger 452 00:17:55,775 --> 00:17:57,385 today... is that a coincidence? 453 00:17:57,429 --> 00:18:00,214 Ellen doesn't have a monopoly on exposés. 454 00:18:00,258 --> 00:18:01,781 Well, let's make sure it links to our blog, 455 00:18:01,824 --> 00:18:05,089 though it doesn't help enough with our case against Ellen. 456 00:18:05,132 --> 00:18:06,394 No, but... 457 00:18:06,438 --> 00:18:07,700 this does. 458 00:18:07,743 --> 00:18:09,571 Another Jane Doe filed an assault charge 459 00:18:09,615 --> 00:18:11,095 against Mike on campus 460 00:18:11,138 --> 00:18:12,270 that same semester. 461 00:18:12,313 --> 00:18:13,880 How could Ellen have missed that? 462 00:18:13,923 --> 00:18:15,142 Well, either she didn't do her homework, 463 00:18:15,186 --> 00:18:16,709 or it didn't fit her narrative. 464 00:18:16,752 --> 00:18:18,450 Let's find out who this Jane Doe is. 465 00:18:18,493 --> 00:18:20,104 I've got this one. 466 00:18:20,147 --> 00:18:22,671 DANNY: What if it was Mike's girlfriend, Gina Stefano? 467 00:18:22,715 --> 00:18:24,934 In the podcast, she said they were soul mates. 468 00:18:24,978 --> 00:18:27,415 But if so, their souls bonded over their hot tempers. 469 00:18:27,459 --> 00:18:29,156 Apparently, these two fought constantly. 470 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,245 BULL: She's the prosecution's next witness. 471 00:18:31,289 --> 00:18:33,465 Benny, let's prepare a cross. 472 00:18:33,508 --> 00:18:35,249 ♪ 473 00:18:45,216 --> 00:18:47,087 Mike's former teammates and coach. 474 00:18:47,131 --> 00:18:48,088 AMANDA: When did you first learn 475 00:18:48,132 --> 00:18:49,220 about Mike and Reese? 476 00:18:49,263 --> 00:18:51,309 We were on a break, when he had this... 477 00:18:51,352 --> 00:18:52,484 drunken hookup with Reese. 478 00:18:52,527 --> 00:18:53,746 And that didn't upset you? 479 00:18:53,789 --> 00:18:55,269 No. 480 00:18:55,313 --> 00:18:56,879 Mike told me everything. 481 00:18:56,923 --> 00:18:58,446 BULL: They're here for the prosecution. 482 00:18:58,490 --> 00:19:01,449 Amanda's good. I can see why 483 00:19:01,493 --> 00:19:03,538 you had a thing for her. 484 00:19:03,582 --> 00:19:05,192 Reese became obsessed with him, 485 00:19:05,236 --> 00:19:08,195 started stalking him. 486 00:19:08,239 --> 00:19:10,328 If I had known that she bought a gun, 487 00:19:10,371 --> 00:19:11,503 I would've told 488 00:19:11,546 --> 00:19:13,200 the police back then. 489 00:19:13,244 --> 00:19:15,550 Right on script. That's the podcast verbatim. 490 00:19:15,594 --> 00:19:16,899 AMANDA: Nothing further. 491 00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:23,210 Ms. Stefano, did you and Mike Tasker ever fight? 492 00:19:23,254 --> 00:19:26,561 Sure. Every couple does.One friend reported 493 00:19:26,605 --> 00:19:28,824 that you often threw dishes at each other. 494 00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:31,218 [scoffs] Okay, not often. 495 00:19:31,262 --> 00:19:33,220 Mike could get out of line. Every once in a while, 496 00:19:33,264 --> 00:19:34,830 I had to pop him one. 497 00:19:34,874 --> 00:19:36,441 We were both very passionate. 498 00:19:36,484 --> 00:19:38,573 So passionate that you filed an assault claim against him? 499 00:19:38,617 --> 00:19:40,401 Under a Jane Doe, is that correct? 500 00:19:40,445 --> 00:19:42,229 AMANDA: Objection, relevance. 501 00:19:42,273 --> 00:19:44,231 Your Honor, the deceased is not on trial here. 502 00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:46,277 I'll allow it.GINA: Look, 503 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,365 I was just mad at him, okay? 504 00:19:47,408 --> 00:19:48,888 And I dropped it, like, a week later. 505 00:19:48,931 --> 00:19:50,542 We were both under a lot of pressure, 506 00:19:50,585 --> 00:19:52,587 and things got heated, and that's all. 507 00:19:52,631 --> 00:19:56,243 So you, a self-described hothead, you were angry? 508 00:19:56,287 --> 00:19:57,244 [scoffs] Sure. 509 00:19:57,288 --> 00:19:58,376 And under pressure.Yeah. 510 00:19:58,419 --> 00:19:59,986 Did you kill Mike Tasker?Objection. 511 00:20:00,029 --> 00:20:01,379 Sustained. 512 00:20:01,422 --> 00:20:03,598 Did you ever tell Ellen Huff about your turbulent 513 00:20:03,642 --> 00:20:05,252 relationship with Mike? 514 00:20:05,296 --> 00:20:07,080 She never asked. 515 00:20:07,123 --> 00:20:10,214 BENNY: So, Ellen Huff was not interested in the truth. 516 00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:14,870 BENNY: She never asked. 517 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:21,312 Just picked up Aaron and Claudia. 518 00:20:21,355 --> 00:20:23,227 Claudia read the Ledger'srape story 519 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:26,317 and is convinced that Ellen did a poor job reporting the facts. 520 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:28,710 I take it you hacked her computer, 521 00:20:28,754 --> 00:20:29,972 implanted your news story. 522 00:20:30,016 --> 00:20:32,845 It wasn't very secure. 523 00:20:32,888 --> 00:20:35,282 Okay, Amanda's next witness up is Rob McKellen. 524 00:20:35,326 --> 00:20:38,633 Fraternity brother and Mike's best friend. 525 00:20:38,677 --> 00:20:40,244 What's all this about pedicures? 526 00:20:42,942 --> 00:20:44,596 Chunk. 527 00:20:44,639 --> 00:20:46,380 Back in college, he and Mike Tasker traded 528 00:20:46,424 --> 00:20:49,078 a bunch of e-mails back and forth scheduling pedicures. 529 00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:51,255 Pedis. 530 00:20:51,298 --> 00:20:53,082 Any of your teammates get pedis? 531 00:20:53,126 --> 00:20:54,954 Pedicures? [laughs] 532 00:20:54,997 --> 00:20:57,522 Who we talking about, these guys? 533 00:20:57,565 --> 00:21:01,003 No. 534 00:21:01,047 --> 00:21:04,616 Not these guys. I'm thinking pedis... is code. 535 00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:11,013 BENNY: You ever get a pedicure, Mr. McKellen? 536 00:21:11,057 --> 00:21:12,406 Objection, relevance. 537 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:13,625 RAND: I'm curious. 538 00:21:13,668 --> 00:21:14,800 What? No, I... 539 00:21:14,843 --> 00:21:16,105 No? 540 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:18,064 Then how do you explain these e-mail exchanges 541 00:21:18,107 --> 00:21:21,023 between you and Mike Tasker discussing your pedicures? 542 00:21:21,067 --> 00:21:23,765 What are you talking about? 543 00:21:23,809 --> 00:21:25,811 They're in evidence, Mr. McKellen. 544 00:21:25,854 --> 00:21:27,552 Subpoenaed by the state. 545 00:21:27,595 --> 00:21:28,553 See? 546 00:21:28,596 --> 00:21:30,468 You need an eye for detail 547 00:21:30,511 --> 00:21:32,121 to spot the significance. 548 00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:35,647 The prosecution didn't notice that you used "pedicure" 549 00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:39,825 as code for PEDs, did they? 550 00:21:39,868 --> 00:21:41,479 Did you and Mike Tasker ever use 551 00:21:41,522 --> 00:21:44,482 performance-enhancing drugs, also known as steroids? 552 00:21:44,525 --> 00:21:46,092 [page flips] 553 00:21:51,271 --> 00:21:52,577 Can I plead the Fifth, Your Honor? 554 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:54,666 You may, Mr. McKellen. 555 00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:59,105 Podcast made Rob look like a Boy Scout. 556 00:21:59,148 --> 00:22:00,715 Should've known better. 557 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:02,369 I like this attorney. 558 00:22:02,413 --> 00:22:03,370 He does his homework. 559 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,505 Rob looks like my broker. 560 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:09,202 I hate my broker. 561 00:22:10,682 --> 00:22:12,814 BENNY: Are you aware that 562 00:22:12,858 --> 00:22:13,815 steroids can make people aggressive? 563 00:22:13,859 --> 00:22:14,816 I've heard that. 564 00:22:14,860 --> 00:22:16,078 But I plead the Fifth. 565 00:22:16,122 --> 00:22:17,776 You have a gun collection? 566 00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:18,994 So what? 567 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:21,257 Including three nine-millimeter side arms? 568 00:22:21,301 --> 00:22:23,216 Have they been checked for the ballistics in this case? 569 00:22:23,259 --> 00:22:24,783 I'm not on trial here. She is. 570 00:22:24,826 --> 00:22:26,611 Yeah, because of what you told Ellen Huff. 571 00:22:26,654 --> 00:22:28,264 Objection. 572 00:22:28,308 --> 00:22:29,265 Withdrawn. 573 00:22:29,309 --> 00:22:30,832 Mr. McKellen, 574 00:22:30,876 --> 00:22:32,921 you were the last person to see Mike alive that night, 575 00:22:32,965 --> 00:22:33,966 weren't you? 576 00:22:36,229 --> 00:22:39,406 Whatever. 577 00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:40,581 Whatever. 578 00:22:42,844 --> 00:22:44,280 Quite a job you did on Rob. 579 00:22:44,324 --> 00:22:45,586 He went up as a witness 580 00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:47,675 for the prosecution, came down a suspect. 581 00:22:47,719 --> 00:22:49,634 At least according to Ethel and Sydney. 582 00:22:49,677 --> 00:22:52,550 BULL: And yet Wade is even more convinced 583 00:22:52,593 --> 00:22:54,203 that Reese killed Mike Tasker. 584 00:22:54,247 --> 00:22:56,597 Oy, how is that even possible? 585 00:22:56,641 --> 00:22:58,643 It's called "backfire effect." 586 00:22:58,686 --> 00:23:00,862 When someone like Wade locks into a story, 587 00:23:00,906 --> 00:23:03,082 even when they're shown evidence to the contrary, 588 00:23:03,125 --> 00:23:04,779 they dig their heels in even more. 589 00:23:04,823 --> 00:23:06,912 BENNY: So the only narrative Wade trusts is Ellen's. 590 00:23:06,955 --> 00:23:08,392 MARISSA: Fact that she's in jail 591 00:23:08,435 --> 00:23:11,307 only further confirms her integrity. 592 00:23:11,351 --> 00:23:13,745 Then it's time to break her out of jail. 593 00:23:13,788 --> 00:23:16,400 I'm gonna go play reporter. 594 00:23:16,443 --> 00:23:17,923 ANGELA: Danny, you know how much trouble 595 00:23:17,966 --> 00:23:19,359 I could get in for this? 596 00:23:19,403 --> 00:23:22,623 You are a patriot and my favorite SoulCycle partner. 597 00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:23,972 You're lucky I can't stand Ellen. 598 00:23:24,016 --> 00:23:26,410 She thinks she's in a hotel. 599 00:23:26,453 --> 00:23:29,761 ELLEN: I had no idea jail would be such a boon for the podcast. 600 00:23:29,804 --> 00:23:32,416 Another 100,000 downloads in two days. 601 00:23:32,459 --> 00:23:34,722 I've had three publishers approach me about a book. 602 00:23:34,766 --> 00:23:35,854 This is a dream. 603 00:23:35,897 --> 00:23:37,856 That's taken completely out of context. 604 00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:39,771 How did you get that?It's just.. hold on a second. 605 00:23:39,814 --> 00:23:41,076 I got to put this. 606 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:42,208 This is new, 607 00:23:42,251 --> 00:23:43,688 so I got to... put this in here 608 00:23:43,731 --> 00:23:44,689 and then it goes to record, 609 00:23:44,732 --> 00:23:46,038 and I got to... 610 00:23:46,081 --> 00:23:47,735 press that. Okay. 611 00:23:47,779 --> 00:23:49,607 Thanks.[lock buzzes] 612 00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:50,608 [latch clicks] 613 00:23:50,651 --> 00:23:52,436 Um, so why did you say that? 614 00:23:52,479 --> 00:23:54,046 I recognize you from the press conference. 615 00:23:54,089 --> 00:23:55,221 Who do you work for? 616 00:23:55,264 --> 00:23:56,788 [sighs] I work for a lot of people. 617 00:23:56,831 --> 00:23:59,399 This is a popular blog that follows the trial, 618 00:23:59,443 --> 00:24:01,270 and, I got to say, 619 00:24:01,314 --> 00:24:03,490 the argument for the defense has a lot of merit. 620 00:24:03,534 --> 00:24:06,232 Mm, everything I wrote was true. 621 00:24:06,275 --> 00:24:07,407 [laughs] 622 00:24:07,451 --> 00:24:09,017 Yeah, of course. 623 00:24:09,061 --> 00:24:10,192 But, I mean, it's pretty clear 624 00:24:10,236 --> 00:24:11,933 you left out a few key details, right? 625 00:24:11,977 --> 00:24:14,849 Like, um... Gina and Mike 626 00:24:14,893 --> 00:24:17,286 and their turbulent relationship. 627 00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:18,723 Kind of gives Gina motive. 628 00:24:18,766 --> 00:24:20,768 Well, she didn't buy a gun. 629 00:24:20,812 --> 00:24:22,248 But Rob had a gun collection 630 00:24:22,291 --> 00:24:23,641 and he was dealing steroids. 631 00:24:23,684 --> 00:24:26,382 All the top players on their team did steroids. 632 00:24:26,426 --> 00:24:28,036 Really? 633 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,124 When'd you find that out? 634 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:30,778 And why didn't you report that? 635 00:24:30,822 --> 00:24:32,998 It's not relevant. 636 00:24:34,129 --> 00:24:36,523 So you just... 637 00:24:36,567 --> 00:24:39,308 you just decide which facts are relevant, 638 00:24:39,352 --> 00:24:41,789 and then you deliberately leave out other ones? 639 00:24:41,833 --> 00:24:43,878 No, you've got the story completely wrong. 640 00:24:43,922 --> 00:24:44,923 No, I got my story. 641 00:24:44,966 --> 00:24:46,446 Good, all right, listen, 642 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:47,534 my editors are all over me 643 00:24:47,578 --> 00:24:48,666 to file this story. 644 00:24:48,709 --> 00:24:50,581 Wait, what are you gonna print? 645 00:24:50,624 --> 00:24:53,758 That you only care about your podcast ratings, and that 646 00:24:53,801 --> 00:24:55,499 you got to have information suggesting 647 00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:57,196 Gina and Rob are suspects 648 00:24:57,239 --> 00:24:59,503 and that's why you haven't released your files 649 00:24:59,546 --> 00:25:00,721 to the court. 650 00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:04,159 But I am releasing my files to the court. 651 00:25:04,203 --> 00:25:06,031 When did that happen? 652 00:25:07,075 --> 00:25:08,903 Just now. 653 00:25:10,165 --> 00:25:11,558 [soft chuckle] 654 00:25:11,602 --> 00:25:13,647 [phone clacks on table]Okay. 655 00:25:13,691 --> 00:25:16,824 Uh... so... 656 00:25:16,868 --> 00:25:18,783 you're trying to kill my story. 657 00:25:19,827 --> 00:25:22,177 [lock buzzes] 658 00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:24,528 [latch clicks] 659 00:25:24,571 --> 00:25:26,007 Okay. 660 00:25:26,051 --> 00:25:29,794 Here's the deal. 661 00:25:29,837 --> 00:25:30,795 No more press conferences 662 00:25:30,838 --> 00:25:33,580 and no more podcasts until 663 00:25:33,624 --> 00:25:34,973 after the trial is over. 664 00:25:35,016 --> 00:25:37,105 Deal. 665 00:25:37,149 --> 00:25:40,935 And I get access to the files. 666 00:25:40,979 --> 00:25:43,242 Ugh. 667 00:25:44,504 --> 00:25:46,593 [snickers] I'm a big fan, by the way. 668 00:25:46,637 --> 00:25:48,813 All right, thanks. 669 00:25:48,856 --> 00:25:50,902 [rock music playing] 670 00:25:50,945 --> 00:25:52,468 Oh! 671 00:25:52,512 --> 00:25:54,862 [chuckling]: That was terrible. 672 00:25:54,906 --> 00:25:55,907 [grunts] 673 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:57,604 Darts are pure chance, my friend. 674 00:25:57,648 --> 00:25:59,563 Uh-huh. Here we go. 675 00:25:59,606 --> 00:26:01,608 Oh, Amanda, what are you doing here? 676 00:26:06,352 --> 00:26:08,310 Oh, that's better. Look at that. 677 00:26:08,354 --> 00:26:09,660 Magic. 678 00:26:09,703 --> 00:26:11,705 [chuckles] 679 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:16,623 How far in advance did you know Amanda was prosecuting the case? 680 00:26:17,668 --> 00:26:18,930 How long you been missing Amanda? 681 00:26:18,973 --> 00:26:19,931 [dart hits board] 682 00:26:19,974 --> 00:26:20,932 What? 683 00:26:20,975 --> 00:26:23,108 Come on, man. I'm over her. 684 00:26:23,151 --> 00:26:27,025 You haven't seriously dated anyone since you guys broke up. 685 00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:31,725 It's because I haven't found anyone I liked. 686 00:26:31,769 --> 00:26:33,031 I'm picky. 687 00:26:33,074 --> 00:26:35,076 Ha.Like other dart players I know. 688 00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:39,690 Ah. 689 00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:41,430 Check you out. 690 00:26:41,474 --> 00:26:43,781 Stage managing my life with Amanda, 691 00:26:43,824 --> 00:26:45,347 pouring your life into Reese's. 692 00:26:45,391 --> 00:26:48,176 You ever gonna get serious with a woman again? 693 00:26:48,220 --> 00:26:50,222 [dart hits board]Whatever. 694 00:26:50,265 --> 00:26:52,877 [chuckles]REPORTER: And now we have Ellen Huff live just moments... 695 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,357 Oh, there's Ellen. Right. 696 00:26:55,401 --> 00:26:57,229 No, really.ELLEN: I have decided to share research 697 00:26:57,272 --> 00:26:58,839 from my investigation with the courts, 698 00:26:58,883 --> 00:27:00,058 so long as they protect my sources. 699 00:27:00,101 --> 00:27:02,234 And I promise you the truth is in there. 700 00:27:02,277 --> 00:27:04,497 I'll keep you posted. Excuse me.[reporters clamoring] 701 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,500 I told her no press conferences. 702 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,545 No, technically it's not. 703 00:27:09,589 --> 00:27:11,983 They were waiting for her at her apartment. 704 00:27:12,026 --> 00:27:14,942 [sighs] Are you her lawyer now? 705 00:27:14,986 --> 00:27:17,858 All right, let's finish these drinks and go say hi. 706 00:27:20,731 --> 00:27:24,473 [sirens wailing] 707 00:27:27,085 --> 00:27:28,869 BULL: Hey, what's going on here?OFFICER: Hold up there. 708 00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:30,131 DETECTIVE: It's all right, Officer, I know him. 709 00:27:30,175 --> 00:27:32,133 Let 'em through.BULL: Thanks, Detective. 710 00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:37,095 What happened? 711 00:27:37,138 --> 00:27:39,271 Looks like gravity. 712 00:27:39,314 --> 00:27:40,359 AMANDA: Forced entry, 713 00:27:40,402 --> 00:27:41,708 signs of a struggle. 714 00:27:41,752 --> 00:27:43,362 Ellen was pushed. 715 00:27:43,405 --> 00:27:46,147 We need your client at the precinct for questioning. 716 00:28:01,162 --> 00:28:03,164 [foghorn blows in distance] 717 00:28:05,993 --> 00:28:07,908 [panting] Hey. 718 00:28:07,952 --> 00:28:09,780 You're fast.How'd you find me? 719 00:28:09,823 --> 00:28:11,172 Figured you needed to go for a run 720 00:28:11,216 --> 00:28:13,740 after you heard about Ellen's death. 721 00:28:13,784 --> 00:28:16,482 Are the police looking for me? 722 00:28:16,525 --> 00:28:20,138 You have about an hour. 723 00:28:20,181 --> 00:28:22,357 [crying]: I'm sorry, I... 724 00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:24,490 I had to get out of my apartment. 725 00:28:24,533 --> 00:28:26,753 I, uh... I couldn't breathe. 726 00:28:26,797 --> 00:28:29,060 [breathing heavily]: I... I... 727 00:28:29,103 --> 00:28:30,365 saw my photo on the news. 728 00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:32,237 Hey, hey, look at me. Look at me for a second. 729 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,717 Come here, come here.No. 730 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,067 Come here, it's okay. Let's count, all right? 731 00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:37,155 No. Remember? 732 00:28:37,198 --> 00:28:38,591 Say it. 733 00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:41,159 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 734 00:28:41,202 --> 00:28:43,552 Do it, look at me, look at me. 735 00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:45,250 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 736 00:28:45,293 --> 00:28:46,425 [out of breath]: Seven. 737 00:28:46,468 --> 00:28:47,992 Eight. Nine. 738 00:28:48,035 --> 00:28:51,125 [breathing steadies] 739 00:28:51,169 --> 00:28:53,084 You're okay? 740 00:28:53,127 --> 00:28:55,913 I told you. 741 00:28:55,956 --> 00:28:59,090 [inhales sharply] 742 00:28:59,133 --> 00:29:01,266 You're okay. 743 00:29:04,791 --> 00:29:08,360 You've been running since your senior year of college. 744 00:29:08,403 --> 00:29:10,797 And I have some news for you. 745 00:29:10,841 --> 00:29:13,365 What happened to you isn't gonna change. 746 00:29:13,408 --> 00:29:15,454 But you can't let it define you. 747 00:29:15,497 --> 00:29:16,803 You don't know what it's like! 748 00:29:16,847 --> 00:29:20,546 No, I don't know exactly what it's like for you. 749 00:29:20,589 --> 00:29:22,330 How could I? 750 00:29:22,374 --> 00:29:25,203 But I do know what it's like to be trapped. 751 00:29:25,246 --> 00:29:28,815 And helpless and afraid 752 00:29:28,859 --> 00:29:32,819 and too young to be able to do anything about it. 753 00:29:35,866 --> 00:29:37,606 Is that why you do what you do? 754 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:40,653 Why you're out here? 755 00:29:40,696 --> 00:29:44,570 In the middle of the night? 756 00:29:44,613 --> 00:29:48,095 Is that why you decided to help me? 757 00:29:52,143 --> 00:29:54,710 Well... 758 00:29:56,538 --> 00:29:58,453 Understanding... [sniffs] 759 00:29:58,497 --> 00:30:01,500 why people do the things they do... 760 00:30:03,763 --> 00:30:06,679 ...is really just understanding yourself. 761 00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:08,115 And once you do that, 762 00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:09,987 you don't have to run anymore. 763 00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:11,815 Not from panic, 764 00:30:11,858 --> 00:30:13,817 not from whatever happened. 765 00:30:14,905 --> 00:30:16,341 We're gonna win. 766 00:30:16,384 --> 00:30:19,213 [sniffles] Okay. 767 00:30:22,042 --> 00:30:23,304 BULL: You see, this is 768 00:30:23,348 --> 00:30:25,219 time-stamped video footage showing Reese 769 00:30:25,263 --> 00:30:26,394 entering her own apartment building 770 00:30:26,438 --> 00:30:28,135 at the time of Ellen's death. 771 00:30:29,441 --> 00:30:31,225 What's your e-mail? I'll send it to you. 772 00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:33,749 She could've left another way.Yeah. Maybe she has 773 00:30:33,793 --> 00:30:35,490 a jetpack. 774 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:37,492 BENNY: Detective cleared my client. 775 00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:39,233 AMANDA: Don't go far. 776 00:30:39,277 --> 00:30:40,844 We have court in the morning. 777 00:30:40,887 --> 00:30:44,369 Amanda, clearly, the real killer saw Ellen's press conference 778 00:30:44,412 --> 00:30:46,893 and got to her before she could reveal his identity. 779 00:30:46,937 --> 00:30:50,331 You are free to bring that theory up at trial. 780 00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:54,509 I know what Benny would do if he was still in the D.A.'s office. 781 00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:57,861 He would drop the case and go after the real killer. 782 00:30:59,471 --> 00:31:02,778 We still have a subpoena for Ellen's files. 783 00:31:02,822 --> 00:31:04,476 They're now in evidence for Ellen's murder. 784 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,174 In which my client was called in for questioning. 785 00:31:07,218 --> 00:31:08,959 You're not trying to keep the files from me, are you? 786 00:31:09,002 --> 00:31:11,875 Come on, Amanda. I know you wouldn't willfully engage 787 00:31:11,918 --> 00:31:13,572 in prosecutorial misconduct. 788 00:31:13,615 --> 00:31:15,356 Benny, have at it. 789 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,228 You can take this by evidence on your way out. 790 00:31:17,271 --> 00:31:18,751 But you can't keep assuming 791 00:31:18,794 --> 00:31:20,405 all your clients are innocent. 792 00:31:20,448 --> 00:31:23,669 All? 793 00:31:23,712 --> 00:31:28,413 I had a 93% conviction rate when I worked for the D.A.'s office. 794 00:31:28,456 --> 00:31:30,632 One person, one innocent person... 795 00:31:30,676 --> 00:31:32,286 Forget it. 796 00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:34,288 There's a reason why I quit. 797 00:31:34,332 --> 00:31:35,507 You didn't quit. You were fired. 798 00:31:36,682 --> 00:31:39,511 I quit when I realized I worked for a place 799 00:31:39,554 --> 00:31:41,817 that cared more about getting convictions than having them. 800 00:31:43,863 --> 00:31:45,691 I'll see you in court. 801 00:31:47,084 --> 00:31:48,041 Cable. 802 00:31:48,085 --> 00:31:51,001 Have you convinced the public 803 00:31:51,044 --> 00:31:53,090 that Reese was not involved in Ellen's death yet? 804 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,092 Making progress. 805 00:31:55,135 --> 00:31:57,355 A couple of news outlets picked up my story. 806 00:31:57,398 --> 00:31:59,226 BENNY: What story? 807 00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:00,532 "Sources report Reese 808 00:32:00,575 --> 00:32:02,186 "has been cleared and has an ironclad alibi. 809 00:32:02,229 --> 00:32:03,535 "Therefore, the real killer 810 00:32:03,578 --> 00:32:06,059 "may have killed Ellen before she could reveal 811 00:32:06,103 --> 00:32:07,974 "his or her true identity. 812 00:32:08,018 --> 00:32:11,151 The police are investigating other suspects at this time." 813 00:32:11,195 --> 00:32:13,719 Throw suspicion on someone other than Reese. 814 00:32:13,762 --> 00:32:15,416 Genius. 815 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:17,201 And it might even be true. 816 00:32:17,244 --> 00:32:19,377 BENNY: Good use of media to control the story. 817 00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:20,552 And here's the kicker: 818 00:32:20,595 --> 00:32:22,641 two naughty, naughty jurors 819 00:32:22,684 --> 00:32:23,816 clicked through to our blog 820 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:25,426 and read the article. 821 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:26,601 Hmm. It's nice work. 822 00:32:26,645 --> 00:32:27,689 That'll filter down 823 00:32:27,733 --> 00:32:29,604 to the rest of the jury by dinner. 824 00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:31,258 You know, if hacking doesn't pan out for you, 825 00:32:31,302 --> 00:32:33,521 I think you have a career as a shoddy journalist. 826 00:32:33,565 --> 00:32:35,393 Thank you.In-in the best way. 827 00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:37,482 That means a lot. 828 00:32:37,525 --> 00:32:40,789 Danny, you find anything in Ellen's file? 829 00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:42,226 No, not yet. 830 00:32:42,269 --> 00:32:43,792 This woman recorded hundreds of hours of interviews. 831 00:32:43,836 --> 00:32:45,620 If we don't get anything from Ellen, 832 00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:47,579 you think Wade will cave?BULL: No. 833 00:32:47,622 --> 00:32:48,884 We'll get a hung jury. 834 00:32:48,928 --> 00:32:51,322 Well, that may not be a bad thing. 835 00:32:51,365 --> 00:32:53,628 The D.A.'s not gonna want to retry this case. 836 00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,717 Yeah, I understand, Benny, 837 00:32:55,761 --> 00:32:57,328 but anything short of not guilty, 838 00:32:57,371 --> 00:32:59,504 and Reese has to live the rest of her life knowing the cops 839 00:32:59,547 --> 00:33:02,463 could come knocking on the door and arrest her for murder. 840 00:33:02,507 --> 00:33:04,770 But it's not like we're gonna put Reese on the stand. 841 00:33:04,813 --> 00:33:06,032 Are we? 842 00:33:06,076 --> 00:33:07,294 Without Ellen, 843 00:33:07,338 --> 00:33:09,035 Reese is the best witness we have 844 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,081 and the only one who might influence Wade. 845 00:33:11,124 --> 00:33:12,734 Not to mention... 846 00:33:12,778 --> 00:33:14,736 it's a story Reese needs to tell. 847 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:16,912 It's one thing for Reese to have a panic attack 848 00:33:16,956 --> 00:33:18,740 while sitting at a table 849 00:33:18,784 --> 00:33:20,264 where she can count to herself. 850 00:33:20,307 --> 00:33:21,308 On the witness stand... 851 00:33:21,352 --> 00:33:23,397 Amanda will destroy her. 852 00:33:23,441 --> 00:33:26,052 Make her look guilty when she freezes. 853 00:33:26,096 --> 00:33:27,706 That's what I'm counting on. 854 00:33:29,577 --> 00:33:32,058 If I say the wrong thing up there, 855 00:33:32,102 --> 00:33:34,365 they'll put me away for the rest of my life. 856 00:33:34,408 --> 00:33:35,757 That's why we're here. 857 00:33:35,801 --> 00:33:37,585 To practice. 858 00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:42,677 Now, I'm gonna play the role of the prosecution. 859 00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:46,899 Ms. Burton, two weeks before Mike Tasker's murder... 860 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:49,684 You bought a nine-millimeter handgun, didn't you? 861 00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:51,208 Yes or no? 862 00:33:51,251 --> 00:33:53,166 Amanda's gonna try and limit your answers to yes or no, 863 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:55,299 but you have the right to explain yourself. 864 00:33:55,342 --> 00:33:58,780 Yes, because I was frightened for my life. 865 00:33:58,824 --> 00:34:01,609 She's very good at restating what you said, 866 00:34:01,653 --> 00:34:02,784 but in her words and not yours. 867 00:34:02,828 --> 00:34:04,308 Correct her.AMANDA: Frightened? 868 00:34:04,351 --> 00:34:06,397 And like everyone, you had a choice. 869 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,702 Fight or flight. 870 00:34:07,746 --> 00:34:09,704 You chose fight. Threatened him. 871 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:11,663 No, I threatened him to stay away from me. 872 00:34:11,706 --> 00:34:14,099 You threatened to kill him with your gun. 873 00:34:14,144 --> 00:34:15,101 BENNY: Objection! 874 00:34:15,144 --> 00:34:16,668 Badgering the witness. 875 00:34:16,711 --> 00:34:19,279 If you're not done with an answer, you say... 876 00:34:19,323 --> 00:34:21,151 I wasn't finished. Amanda knows 877 00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:22,413 you have panic attacks. 878 00:34:22,456 --> 00:34:24,240 She's gonna try and elicit one on the stand. 879 00:34:24,284 --> 00:34:26,981 And when she does, you... 880 00:34:27,026 --> 00:34:28,854 will be ready. 881 00:34:28,896 --> 00:34:30,247 AMANDA: Mike sexually assaulted you. Yes. 882 00:34:30,289 --> 00:34:32,075 You reported it to the university. 883 00:34:32,117 --> 00:34:33,076 Yes. 884 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:34,207 And they dragged their heels. Yes. 885 00:34:34,251 --> 00:34:35,469 But that was something that... 886 00:34:35,512 --> 00:34:37,036 And you were furious about that, weren't you? 887 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,038 Of course I was.You kept that rage inside. 888 00:34:39,082 --> 00:34:40,648 I didn't say "rage."AMANDA: The entire campus 889 00:34:40,692 --> 00:34:42,172 turned up for Mike Tasker's memorial service. 890 00:34:42,215 --> 00:34:44,043 REESE: A lot of people went, yes, 891 00:34:44,086 --> 00:34:45,610 who weren't raped by him. 892 00:34:45,653 --> 00:34:46,785 But you were glad Mike Tasker was dead. 893 00:34:46,827 --> 00:34:48,613 You can admit that. 894 00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:51,094 Can't you? 895 00:34:53,748 --> 00:34:55,315 Ms. Burton. 896 00:34:55,358 --> 00:34:57,970 Why does this topic make you so uncomfortable? 897 00:34:58,013 --> 00:34:59,145 [breathing heavily] 898 00:34:59,189 --> 00:35:00,625 Ms. Burton, do you need a break? 899 00:35:00,668 --> 00:35:02,409 BULL: Before a panic attack, 900 00:35:02,453 --> 00:35:04,107 people have their own 901 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:05,673 warning signs. 902 00:35:05,717 --> 00:35:08,807 The room starts to buzz, yeah? 903 00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:13,942 That can be your cue to melt down or to start coping. 904 00:35:13,986 --> 00:35:15,944 What if I pass out? 905 00:35:15,988 --> 00:35:17,642 You'll wake up.What if I throw up? 906 00:35:17,685 --> 00:35:18,686 We'll get you a bucket. 907 00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:20,166 You have an answer for everything. 908 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:22,473 So do you. 909 00:35:22,516 --> 00:35:25,258 For every question Amanda's going to ask, 910 00:35:25,302 --> 00:35:27,608 you have the truth. 911 00:35:27,652 --> 00:35:30,176 And no panic attack or prosecutor 912 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:31,351 can take that from you. 913 00:35:31,395 --> 00:35:32,961 RAND: The court will recess. 914 00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:35,268 [gavel pounds]No, I don't need a break, Your Honor. 915 00:35:35,312 --> 00:35:36,878 No further questions, Your Honor. 916 00:35:36,922 --> 00:35:38,010 But she asked a question 917 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:39,620 implying that I'm hiding something. 918 00:35:39,664 --> 00:35:41,405 I have the right to answer. 919 00:35:41,448 --> 00:35:43,407 Go ahead, you may answer. 920 00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:44,451 [sniffles] 921 00:35:46,584 --> 00:35:48,586 [Reese breathes heavily] 922 00:35:49,804 --> 00:35:52,677 [sniffles] 923 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,418 [exhales] 924 00:35:59,292 --> 00:36:00,728 You're right. 925 00:36:00,772 --> 00:36:02,774 I couldn't stand Mike, 926 00:36:02,817 --> 00:36:04,689 but I was the last person who wanted him dead. 927 00:36:04,732 --> 00:36:07,213 I wanted him alive 928 00:36:07,257 --> 00:36:09,737 because I wanted him to pay for what he did. 929 00:36:09,781 --> 00:36:11,652 I wanted him to go to prison. 930 00:36:11,696 --> 00:36:14,568 I wanted him to feel what I felt 931 00:36:14,612 --> 00:36:18,181 and I wanted to ask him, "How powerful do you feel now?" 932 00:36:20,226 --> 00:36:22,402 And I'll never get that chance. 933 00:36:22,446 --> 00:36:25,536 He is the one at peace, not me. 934 00:36:28,234 --> 00:36:31,194 Yes, I get these panic attacks 935 00:36:31,237 --> 00:36:34,197 because I was raped and bullied, 936 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,069 which is exactly how you're making me feel. 937 00:36:39,506 --> 00:36:42,030 I couldn't stand up for myself then, 938 00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:45,208 but I am stronger now. 939 00:36:45,251 --> 00:36:48,385 So, ask your questions, Ms. Prosecutor. 940 00:36:48,428 --> 00:36:51,344 I have nowhere else to be. 941 00:36:51,388 --> 00:36:54,304 I did not kill Mike Tasker. 942 00:37:05,053 --> 00:37:07,230 Yeah, she gets panic attacks. 943 00:37:07,273 --> 00:37:10,624 I get it, but the prosecution's built a bulletproof case. 944 00:37:10,668 --> 00:37:12,365 No way I can acquit, 945 00:37:12,409 --> 00:37:14,280 especially since Ellen's dead. 946 00:37:14,324 --> 00:37:16,239 That podcaster lady had it all. 947 00:37:16,282 --> 00:37:19,633 All that's left is my closing argument. 948 00:37:19,677 --> 00:37:21,940 And we've got two hours. 949 00:37:21,983 --> 00:37:24,203 Ellen's got to have something in her audio files. 950 00:37:24,247 --> 00:37:25,248 Danny. 951 00:37:27,598 --> 00:37:29,295 This looks promising. 952 00:37:31,471 --> 00:37:33,604 Ellen's raw, unedited audio. 953 00:37:33,647 --> 00:37:35,301 You're gonna want to hear that. 954 00:37:41,264 --> 00:37:44,397 Looks like we have reasonable doubt. 955 00:37:50,316 --> 00:37:51,709 We all know what happened to Mike Tasker. 956 00:37:51,752 --> 00:37:52,753 Right? 957 00:37:54,581 --> 00:37:56,148 ELLEN: Reese was obsessed. 958 00:37:56,191 --> 00:37:57,541 Stalked him around campus. 959 00:37:57,584 --> 00:37:59,282 When he turned down her advances, she bought a gun 960 00:37:59,325 --> 00:38:00,848 and threatened him. 961 00:38:00,892 --> 00:38:02,981 Social media. 962 00:38:03,024 --> 00:38:06,114 Twitter, blogs, Facebook. 963 00:38:06,158 --> 00:38:07,638 [laughing]: It can be 964 00:38:07,681 --> 00:38:12,643 a terrific tool for staying in touch, for connecting. 965 00:38:12,686 --> 00:38:15,036 For cat videos. 966 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,647 But, you see, there's a difference 967 00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:18,910 between entertainment and the truth. 968 00:38:18,953 --> 00:38:22,479 And this podcast is a work of pure fiction. 969 00:38:22,522 --> 00:38:24,524 How do I know? 970 00:38:24,568 --> 00:38:27,092 ELLEN: Once police matched Reese's blonde hair-- 971 00:38:27,135 --> 00:38:28,746 shoot, brown. I need to start over. 972 00:38:28,789 --> 00:38:30,313 ENGINEER: I thought you were going to bring up Mike 973 00:38:30,356 --> 00:38:31,531 and the team's steroid use. 974 00:38:31,575 --> 00:38:34,360 ELLEN: No, it gets too complicated here. 975 00:38:34,404 --> 00:38:35,579 I'm not gonna get into it. 976 00:38:35,622 --> 00:38:36,580 ENGINEER: Very good. Take two. 977 00:38:36,623 --> 00:38:37,711 That's an example 978 00:38:37,755 --> 00:38:39,800 of how Ellen chose the facts... 979 00:38:39,844 --> 00:38:41,367 to make a compelling case. 980 00:38:41,411 --> 00:38:45,806 Ellen thought it was "too complicated" 981 00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:47,895 to introduce Mike's steroid use, 982 00:38:47,939 --> 00:38:50,855 Gina's temper and assault charge, 983 00:38:50,898 --> 00:38:52,770 even Reese's panic attacks. 984 00:38:52,813 --> 00:38:56,861 I mean, Ellen's limited version of the story may have made 985 00:38:56,904 --> 00:38:59,864 for compelling entertainment, but that doesn't make it true. 986 00:39:02,606 --> 00:39:07,350 And it cost Reese her job, her reputation, 987 00:39:07,393 --> 00:39:09,439 and it publicized to the whole world 988 00:39:09,482 --> 00:39:11,702 that she was raped. 989 00:39:11,745 --> 00:39:13,660 And you know what? It landed her right here... 990 00:39:13,704 --> 00:39:15,793 on trial for murder. 991 00:39:20,711 --> 00:39:24,367 Please don't make the same mistake Ellen did. 992 00:39:25,933 --> 00:39:28,153 She's not a murderer. 993 00:39:28,196 --> 00:39:30,938 She's a survivor. 994 00:39:30,982 --> 00:39:33,027 That's the true story. 995 00:39:42,123 --> 00:39:45,823 On the charge of murder in the first degree, 996 00:39:45,866 --> 00:39:47,564 how do you find? 997 00:39:50,784 --> 00:39:55,093 WOMAN: We, the jury, find the defendant, Reese Burton... 998 00:39:55,136 --> 00:39:57,617 not guilty. 999 00:39:59,184 --> 00:40:00,838 RAND: Court adjourned. 1000 00:40:00,881 --> 00:40:03,101 [gavel strikes] 1001 00:40:03,144 --> 00:40:05,756 [laughs] 1002 00:40:05,799 --> 00:40:06,800 Will you look at that? 1003 00:40:06,844 --> 00:40:08,759 I... I see the coach and his team 1004 00:40:08,802 --> 00:40:10,413 aren't here for the verdict. 1005 00:40:10,456 --> 00:40:13,894 Maybe you should look into that doping scandal. 1006 00:40:24,992 --> 00:40:26,385 [cork pops] 1007 00:40:26,429 --> 00:40:27,908 CABLE: Enemy alert. 1008 00:40:27,952 --> 00:40:29,301 Say the word, 1009 00:40:29,344 --> 00:40:30,998 I hit the burn button. We lose it all. 1010 00:40:31,042 --> 00:40:32,696 It's all right, Cable. She called ahead. 1011 00:40:32,739 --> 00:40:35,220 We picked up Rob for questioning. 1012 00:40:35,263 --> 00:40:36,656 He crumbled pretty quickly. 1013 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,832 Turns out Mike was about to blow the whistle 1014 00:40:38,876 --> 00:40:40,834 on the team using steroids, 1015 00:40:40,878 --> 00:40:43,533 so the coach had motive to kill Mike and Ellen. 1016 00:40:43,576 --> 00:40:45,796 You were right. 1017 00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:47,798 Mm. 1018 00:40:47,841 --> 00:40:50,017 You came all the way here to tell us this? 1019 00:40:51,062 --> 00:40:53,717 Actually, I came to talk to you. 1020 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,111 Mm, I haven't had a sip of this yet. 1021 00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:59,331 I'm gonna go play guitar. 1022 00:41:01,812 --> 00:41:03,814 I was impressed. 1023 00:41:03,857 --> 00:41:07,992 That passion... that's what I first remember about you 1024 00:41:08,035 --> 00:41:09,080 when you started at the D.A.'s office. 1025 00:41:09,123 --> 00:41:10,124 [lightly chuckles] 1026 00:41:10,168 --> 00:41:11,561 Look, Amanda, you don't have to. 1027 00:41:11,604 --> 00:41:14,302 No, I do. 1028 00:41:14,346 --> 00:41:17,480 That's why I was so upset after your press conference. 1029 00:41:17,523 --> 00:41:19,743 Well... you know how I felt. 1030 00:41:22,876 --> 00:41:24,878 I just... 1031 00:41:24,922 --> 00:41:27,794 felt like you weren't taking me into account. 1032 00:41:27,838 --> 00:41:28,926 I was still working there. 1033 00:41:28,969 --> 00:41:30,797 Yeah. 1034 00:41:30,841 --> 00:41:32,843 I could've handled that differently. 1035 00:41:32,886 --> 00:41:34,888 Yeah. 1036 00:41:36,977 --> 00:41:39,850 But I do get why you did it. 1037 00:41:39,893 --> 00:41:41,721 Thanks. 1038 00:41:41,765 --> 00:41:43,114 That means a lot. 1039 00:41:43,157 --> 00:41:46,857 Just to be clear, don't ever come up against me 1040 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:48,119 with a guilty client. 1041 00:41:48,162 --> 00:41:51,383 Well... don't ever prosecute an innocent one. 1042 00:41:51,426 --> 00:41:56,867 ♪ From the most beautiful girl in the world... ♪ 1043 00:41:56,910 --> 00:41:59,739 If she said she'd take you back... 1044 00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:00,827 would you do it? 1045 00:42:00,871 --> 00:42:02,481 In a heartbeat. 1046 00:42:05,353 --> 00:42:09,662 ♪ I don't mind... 1047 00:42:09,706 --> 00:42:10,707 Thank you. 1048 00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:12,447 Mm-hmm. Hey. 1049 00:42:12,491 --> 00:42:13,448 Hi. 1050 00:42:13,492 --> 00:42:14,580 Um, if your social calendar 1051 00:42:14,624 --> 00:42:15,581 has cleared up... 1052 00:42:15,625 --> 00:42:18,105 What? 1053 00:42:18,149 --> 00:42:19,672 Tin Lizard? [chuckles] 1054 00:42:19,716 --> 00:42:22,153 No pressure, but a bunch of us are going. 1055 00:42:22,196 --> 00:42:23,197 Yeah. 1056 00:42:23,241 --> 00:42:24,590 [chuckles] 1057 00:42:24,634 --> 00:42:25,809 Thank you. 1058 00:42:27,941 --> 00:42:30,422 Curious how you managed to turn this case 1059 00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:32,032 into an opportunity 1060 00:42:32,076 --> 00:42:35,296 for Benny to reconcile with Amanda. 1061 00:42:36,994 --> 00:42:38,386 A happy coincidence. 1062 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:39,997 [chuckles] 1063 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,041 You don't believe in coincidences. 1064 00:42:41,085 --> 00:42:42,260 Well... 1065 00:42:42,303 --> 00:42:45,655 a happy result of masterful manipulation 1066 00:42:45,698 --> 00:42:47,308 seems a bit over the top, don't you think? [chuckles] 1067 00:42:49,223 --> 00:42:51,443 How long's the feeling last? 1068 00:42:51,486 --> 00:42:53,880 Huh? 1069 00:42:53,924 --> 00:42:55,621 Winning a case like this. 1070 00:42:55,665 --> 00:42:57,318 Helping Reese. 1071 00:42:58,363 --> 00:43:00,147 Until the next one. 1072 00:43:00,191 --> 00:43:01,714 ♪ It's time alone. 1073 00:43:01,758 --> 00:43:04,804 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1074 00:43:04,848 --> 00:43:06,632 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 75843

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