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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,294 --> 00:00:04,631 [drums] 2 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:13,640 [Shad] At some point, all true hip-hop fans 3 00:00:13,723 --> 00:00:15,391 want to know about the culture's roots, 4 00:00:15,934 --> 00:00:17,894 and for me, as an MC, 5 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:20,021 hip-hop's history is my history, too. 6 00:00:20,438 --> 00:00:22,523 So, the opportunity to hear the story 7 00:00:22,606 --> 00:00:24,400 from the people who created it 8 00:00:24,484 --> 00:00:27,111 is every hip-hop head's dream realized. 9 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:29,989 ♪Two years ago, a friend of mine ♪ 10 00:00:30,073 --> 00:00:32,659 ♪i> Asked me to say some MC rhymes ♪ 11 00:00:32,742 --> 00:00:34,661 [hysterical laughing] 12 00:00:34,744 --> 00:00:37,121 What is that? 13 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:38,957 ♪Took a dare to become an MC ♪ 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,252 [Shad] From the moment New York's pioneers created this new form of music, 15 00:00:42,335 --> 00:00:44,003 based on break beats and rhymes, 16 00:00:44,087 --> 00:00:45,588 its appeal was instant, 17 00:00:45,672 --> 00:00:48,049 and its momentum was unstoppable. 18 00:00:48,132 --> 00:00:51,219 ♪Straight out of Compton Crazy motherfucker named Ice Cube ♪ 19 00:00:51,302 --> 00:00:52,553 [Shad] L.A. broke through first, 20 00:00:52,637 --> 00:00:55,347 adding booming funk and hard rhymes to the mix. 21 00:00:55,974 --> 00:00:58,476 But this was just the beginning of hip-hop's evolution, 22 00:00:59,102 --> 00:01:00,353 because from coast to coast, 23 00:01:00,436 --> 00:01:03,564 hungry innovators in every city, town, and neighborhood 24 00:01:04,148 --> 00:01:05,191 wanted their say. 25 00:01:07,944 --> 00:01:11,239 [Shad] And in true hip-hop fashion, they were going to be heard. 26 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:13,741 ["Hip Hop" by Dead Prez plays] 27 00:01:15,827 --> 00:01:17,453 ♪Uh, uh One, two, one, two ♪ 28 00:01:18,705 --> 00:01:20,665 ♪Uh One, two, one, two ♪ 29 00:01:22,709 --> 00:01:25,169 ♪One thing 'bout music When it hit you feel no pain♪ 30 00:01:25,253 --> 00:01:28,506 ♪White folks say it controls your brain I know better than that, that's game♪ 31 00:01:28,589 --> 00:01:30,883 ♪And we ready for that Two soldiers head of the pack♪ 32 00:01:30,967 --> 00:01:33,011 ♪Matter fact, who got the gat? And where my army at♪♪ 33 00:01:33,094 --> 00:01:34,595 ♪Rather attack than not react♪ 34 00:01:34,679 --> 00:01:37,932 ♪Bigger than hip-hop, hip-hop♪ 35 00:01:38,016 --> 00:01:40,143 ♪Hip-hop, hip♪ 36 00:01:40,226 --> 00:01:42,770 ♪It's bigger than hip-hop♪ 37 00:01:42,854 --> 00:01:45,481 ♪Hip-hop, hip-hop♪ 38 00:02:03,541 --> 00:02:04,667 [Shad] By the early '80s, 39 00:02:04,751 --> 00:02:07,712 rap scenes were bubbling up in every corner of the U.S. 40 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:11,507 and one of the first places for the culture to take root was here, 41 00:02:11,591 --> 00:02:13,843 in the tropical heat of Miami. 42 00:02:13,926 --> 00:02:16,346 Miami was a party town before hip-hop hit. 43 00:02:16,429 --> 00:02:18,389 Influenced by a Caribbean culture 44 00:02:18,473 --> 00:02:20,183 and a strong mobile DJ scene, 45 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:24,103 it was all about outdoor block parties and big bass. 46 00:02:27,857 --> 00:02:31,527 [Shad] Hip-hop's first Southern ambassador emerged from those parties, 47 00:02:31,611 --> 00:02:35,114 an ambitious Jamaican and Bahamian DJ with a rebellious streak. 48 00:02:37,116 --> 00:02:38,493 He's gone by a lot of names, 49 00:02:38,576 --> 00:02:41,621 but today, most people call him Uncle Luke. 50 00:02:53,883 --> 00:02:55,468 -Hey, what's up, man? -[Shad] You good? 51 00:02:55,551 --> 00:02:57,178 How you feeling, man? You in the neighborhood. 52 00:02:57,261 --> 00:03:00,098 -[Shad] Yes, sir. -This the community of Liberty City. 53 00:03:01,432 --> 00:03:03,768 [Shad] How much of the early Miami bass scene 54 00:03:03,851 --> 00:03:06,562 and the people involved were from here? 55 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:10,149 Everybody was from Liberty City, you know, everybody. 56 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:14,987 Here, in Liberty City, that's where it all started,? and it all began. 57 00:03:15,363 --> 00:03:17,448 It all-- Right in that yard, right there. 58 00:03:17,907 --> 00:03:22,745 Right-- The window was pointing this way right here, and I used to DJ 59 00:03:23,037 --> 00:03:25,581 out of the window, onto the grass. 60 00:03:26,457 --> 00:03:29,752 And I would have the people come right up there to the grass, 61 00:03:29,836 --> 00:03:33,423 -and they would be dancing in the grass. -Reggae records and... 62 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:35,049 Reggae, all kind of records. 63 00:03:35,174 --> 00:03:37,593 I was the DJ trash talking on the microphone, 64 00:03:38,302 --> 00:03:40,304 had the records in the little shed, 65 00:03:40,596 --> 00:03:41,681 and I'm DJing. 66 00:03:41,764 --> 00:03:44,142 So, I had a little business going on out the house. 67 00:03:44,225 --> 00:03:46,269 -[Uncle Luke] Yeah. -Young entrepreneur. 68 00:03:48,062 --> 00:03:50,815 [reporter] Miami's Luther Campbell works as a cook at a hotel, 69 00:03:51,774 --> 00:03:54,235 but he says this is when he really gets cooking, 70 00:03:54,318 --> 00:03:57,905 performing as the leader of The Ghetto Style DJs, 71 00:03:57,989 --> 00:04:00,158 playing music in the streets for poor black youth 72 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:02,660 in the Liberty City section of Miami. 73 00:04:03,369 --> 00:04:05,413 [Uncle Luke] I was an up-and-coming DJ. 74 00:04:05,496 --> 00:04:08,791 We would DJ in the pit at African Square Park. 75 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:10,751 It was, like, literally down in a hole. 76 00:04:10,835 --> 00:04:12,670 And the pit was our home. 77 00:04:14,338 --> 00:04:18,551 Most people come down here in the sun and fun, and it's all great, 78 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:21,179 but Miami, you know, had its challenges. 79 00:04:21,262 --> 00:04:23,431 [police sirens wail] 80 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:26,309 [reporter] The trouble started at African Square Park. 81 00:04:26,392 --> 00:04:29,770 Street discos were going on past closing time there. 82 00:04:29,979 --> 00:04:32,565 Officers sent to stop the music a little after 10:00 83 00:04:32,648 --> 00:04:35,818 said rock and bottle throwing youths then moved from the park. 84 00:04:35,902 --> 00:04:37,695 [Uncle Luke] I was DJing this one night, 85 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:41,032 and this officer, he ran the whole neighborhood. 86 00:04:41,282 --> 00:04:44,952 White guy. His name was Officer Butler. Everybody was scared of him. 87 00:04:45,036 --> 00:04:48,039 He was this notorious bad motherfucker. 88 00:04:48,122 --> 00:04:51,584 So, he came to the pit and, "All you niggas get out of this hole here! 89 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:53,711 Y'all shut the fuckin' music down." 90 00:04:53,794 --> 00:04:55,463 And I was like, "Fuck you!" 91 00:04:55,546 --> 00:04:57,340 And, before you know it, 92 00:04:57,423 --> 00:04:59,175 we had a nice, good, old-fashioned 93 00:04:59,258 --> 00:05:00,801 Liberty City riot. 94 00:05:00,885 --> 00:05:05,014 -[police sirens wail] -[gun shots firing] 95 00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:07,058 [indistinct chatter on police radio] 96 00:05:07,141 --> 00:05:09,227 [Uncle Luke] My uncle taught me to watch the news 97 00:05:09,393 --> 00:05:12,271 and understand what they're really talking about. 98 00:05:12,563 --> 00:05:15,483 [reporter] Police estimate they made 25 to 30 arrests: 99 00:05:15,566 --> 00:05:16,734 Some for looting, 100 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,612 others like this pickup, apparently for prowling. 101 00:05:19,695 --> 00:05:21,864 [Uncle Luke] Another black person acting like an asshole, 102 00:05:21,948 --> 00:05:24,158 another white guy acting like a good?guy. 103 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:26,369 And they would drill that into me. 104 00:05:26,536 --> 00:05:30,831 So, that kind of got me really politically active and aware. 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,250 [man] We young disco groups, 106 00:05:32,750 --> 00:05:35,711 We just ask the city to give us a better facility to play in. 107 00:05:36,212 --> 00:05:39,048 Right now, you know, the world, there's no jobs, 108 00:05:39,131 --> 00:05:41,842 so you've got to have something to take the people's mind off of 109 00:05:41,926 --> 00:05:44,011 going out and doing something wrong. 110 00:05:44,095 --> 00:05:47,390 [Uncle Luke] We had no skating rinks, no teen discos. We had nothing. 111 00:05:47,723 --> 00:05:51,143 So, it was always into me. I wanted to own my own. 112 00:05:51,227 --> 00:05:52,853 I'm going to work for the man for a minute, 113 00:05:52,937 --> 00:05:54,772 but I always want to own my own. 114 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:58,234 I remember the day like it was yesterday when I told the guys, I was like, 115 00:05:58,317 --> 00:06:00,695 "Yo, we got to own our own teen disco." 116 00:06:00,778 --> 00:06:03,864 They were looking at me like, "What? Are you serious? 117 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:05,866 How we going to do that, you know? 118 00:06:05,950 --> 00:06:07,994 Black people don't own their own business." 119 00:06:08,077 --> 00:06:10,204 But I wasn't raised to lay down, 120 00:06:10,454 --> 00:06:12,290 so I raised enough money 121 00:06:12,373 --> 00:06:15,084 and then opened up the Pac Jam Teen Disco. 122 00:06:16,586 --> 00:06:19,880 -[indistinct chatter] -[drums and electronic beat] 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,847 [Freestyle Steve] You'll go in and it's dark. 124 00:06:28,014 --> 00:06:30,474 You got the smoke. You got the green lights going. 125 00:06:30,975 --> 00:06:33,978 And music's loud, you dancing, you sweating. 126 00:06:34,103 --> 00:06:35,396 You looking for the chicks. 127 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:37,815 You're with your boys, your little crew, 128 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:39,525 and y'all fresh to death. 129 00:06:42,737 --> 00:06:45,156 [Trick Daddy] You got the silk shirt, the corduroys, 130 00:06:45,239 --> 00:06:48,034 the M&M boots with the fisherman hat. 131 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:52,413 And on the weekends, we would go to the Pac Jam, 132 00:06:52,496 --> 00:06:54,498 and we wouldn't have to leave the club. 133 00:06:54,582 --> 00:06:56,500 We were 12 and 13 years old, 134 00:06:56,584 --> 00:06:59,795 and we was leaving the club at 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning. 135 00:07:03,883 --> 00:07:07,678 [Disco Rick] It'd be DJs like Ghetto Style DJs, 136 00:07:07,762 --> 00:07:09,722 Pure Funk DJs... 137 00:07:09,805 --> 00:07:11,349 Jam Pony Express. 138 00:07:11,682 --> 00:07:13,100 You can't forget them boys. 139 00:07:13,184 --> 00:07:17,271 And there was walls and walls of speakers. 140 00:07:17,521 --> 00:07:19,273 Then when the bass would drop... 141 00:07:19,899 --> 00:07:21,734 you fucking felt your heart come out your chest. 142 00:07:21,817 --> 00:07:23,986 That's the other thing I heard is, you had to have that bass. 143 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:26,405 Oh, no. If you didn't have that bass, you weren't shakin' shit. 144 00:07:29,909 --> 00:07:32,620 [Freestyle Steve] It was dirty, grimy, and deep. 145 00:07:32,703 --> 00:07:34,830 And that's how the Miami sound was defined. 146 00:07:36,165 --> 00:07:38,584 [Uncle Luke] I became like this legend, 147 00:07:38,668 --> 00:07:40,002 so I wanted to discover 148 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:43,089 records you don't hear on the radio, and that nobody else is playing. 149 00:07:43,172 --> 00:07:46,967 And that's what I did. I found that "Beat Box" record 150 00:07:47,051 --> 00:07:49,845 by these guys from California. 151 00:07:49,929 --> 00:07:51,347 ["Beat Box" by 2 Live Crew plays] 152 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:54,058 ♪Beat box, beat box Beat, beat, beat box ♪ 153 00:07:54,141 --> 00:07:56,310 [Uncle Luke] The "Beat Box" record, it was electronic. 154 00:07:56,394 --> 00:07:58,896 It was... ♪Beat, Beat, Beat, Beat Box ♪ 155 00:07:58,979 --> 00:08:00,690 I took it to the Jam that weekend, 156 00:08:00,773 --> 00:08:02,149 and I put the record on. 157 00:08:02,233 --> 00:08:05,236 And when they heard that, people just lost they fuckin' minds. 158 00:08:05,861 --> 00:08:07,697 ♪Beat, beat, beat box ♪ 159 00:08:07,780 --> 00:08:11,367 So, that's when I brought 2 Live Crew down to Miami. 160 00:08:14,704 --> 00:08:16,539 ♪Beat, beat, beat box ♪ 161 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:20,126 [Shad] Miami loved the booming bass of 2 Live Crew's "Beat Box," 162 00:08:20,209 --> 00:08:22,378 and Luke, always the hustler, 163 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:25,881 recognized ,this as an opportunity to move beyond being a promoter. 164 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:28,133 So, he founded his own record company, 165 00:08:28,551 --> 00:08:30,052 Luke Skywalker Records, 166 00:08:30,136 --> 00:08:33,681 and made this unknown California trio his first signing. 167 00:08:33,763 --> 00:08:35,766 ♪i> Listen party people Let me tell you this ♪ 168 00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:37,685 ♪Something I know you can't resist ♪ 169 00:08:37,977 --> 00:08:40,020 ♪i> We came here tonight to let you know ♪ 170 00:08:40,104 --> 00:08:42,356 ♪That we are the crew Gonna steal the show ♪ 171 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,400 [Shad] How did Luke come to be part of?the group? 172 00:08:44,483 --> 00:08:48,821 -Because, at this point, he's a promoter. -[Mr. Mixx] Promoter, manager... 173 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:50,573 We started doing some shows, 174 00:08:50,656 --> 00:08:53,117 Fresh Kid Ice is you know, bashful, shy. 175 00:08:53,242 --> 00:08:55,453 Marquis didn't have a particular focus. 176 00:08:55,661 --> 00:08:57,121 It was, like, chaos. 177 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:59,790 Luke is standing on the sidelines, looking at all this 178 00:08:59,874 --> 00:09:01,959 saying, "Man, they bombing out there. 179 00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:03,627 I can't let this happen." 180 00:09:03,711 --> 00:09:06,547 He just felt like his money was about to go down the drain. 181 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:09,633 So, he took his DJ skills-- 182 00:09:09,717 --> 00:09:12,678 You know, the type of DJing they were doing in Miami, 183 00:09:12,762 --> 00:09:14,138 they would talk over the records. 184 00:09:14,263 --> 00:09:17,308 And he started doing all of?this stuff in between the songs. 185 00:09:17,475 --> 00:09:19,935 He did it two or three times, and he said, 186 00:09:20,019 --> 00:09:23,481 "Man, if I'm gonna be?going out there doing this stuff, I gotta get paid." 187 00:09:23,564 --> 00:09:27,109 So, that's how he became a fourth member in the group. 188 00:09:27,777 --> 00:09:29,737 ♪The rap you hear is our claim to fame ♪ 189 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:31,864 ♪So everyone in hip-hop Will know our name ♪ 190 00:09:31,947 --> 00:09:34,200 [Uncle Luke] When I joined the group, I told the guys, 191 00:09:34,283 --> 00:09:36,452 "Yo, we don't want to sound like Run-D.M.C. 192 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:38,496 We don't want to sound like Ice-T. 193 00:09:38,746 --> 00:09:42,333 We don't want to sound like anything that you have ever heard." 194 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:45,503 We have a dance that we do called "Throw the D." 195 00:09:46,253 --> 00:09:47,129 "Throw the Dick". 196 00:09:47,213 --> 00:09:48,422 That was the name of it. 197 00:09:48,964 --> 00:09:51,467 So I said, "Do a song off of 'Throw the D,' 198 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:53,344 and I'mma make the song big." 199 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:56,514 I said, "It's got to have a lot of bass." And then we made... 200 00:09:57,056 --> 00:09:59,725 the nastiest record you could ever imagine. 201 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:02,394 ["Throw that Dick" starts playing] 202 00:10:03,437 --> 00:10:06,607 ♪Listen up y'all 'cause this is it ♪ 203 00:10:07,149 --> 00:10:10,444 ♪Forget that old dance [distorted] And throw the dick ♪ 204 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:12,071 ♪Let's dance ♪ 205 00:10:12,321 --> 00:10:14,615 [Disco Rick] That Throw the D record set it off. 206 00:10:14,698 --> 00:10:17,660 It was our first hip hop record, was 2 Live Crew. 207 00:10:17,743 --> 00:10:19,328 That was our thing. 208 00:10:19,411 --> 00:10:21,330 You know, It came from Luke. 209 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:23,666 Know what I'm saying? It came from Ghetto Style DJs. 210 00:10:23,749 --> 00:10:25,751 ♪It's a brand new dance And it's coming your way ♪ 211 00:10:25,876 --> 00:10:27,670 ♪It was started in Miami By the Ghetto DJs ♪ 212 00:10:27,753 --> 00:10:29,463 ♪Say some call it nasty But that's not true ♪ 213 00:10:29,547 --> 00:10:31,257 ♪It's the only dance That you can do ♪ 214 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:33,259 ♪'Cause you need a sexy body Make your party come alive ♪ 215 00:10:33,342 --> 00:10:34,885 ♪i> If you can't do that Don't even try ♪ 216 00:10:34,969 --> 00:10:37,012 "Throw the Dick" was one of my favorite dances 217 00:10:37,096 --> 00:10:38,472 and one of my favorite songs, 218 00:10:38,556 --> 00:10:41,642 and nobody can cuss better than Miami niggas. 219 00:10:42,101 --> 00:10:43,519 Nobody can cuss like us. 220 00:10:43,602 --> 00:10:45,604 ♪i> Just get on the floor And suck my dick ♪ 221 00:10:46,939 --> 00:10:47,982 [DJ Laz] It was edgy. 222 00:10:48,649 --> 00:10:50,734 It was in your face, 223 00:10:51,151 --> 00:10:52,903 like, fucking audio porn... 224 00:10:53,404 --> 00:10:54,530 is what it was. 225 00:10:54,613 --> 00:10:57,950 ♪It's all in the hips, so go berserk And let that dick do the work ♪ 226 00:10:58,033 --> 00:10:59,159 [Lady Tigra] It pissed off your parents. 227 00:10:59,243 --> 00:11:02,162 [chuckles] You got to say all the dirty things 228 00:11:02,246 --> 00:11:03,664 you wouldn't say in real life. 229 00:11:03,831 --> 00:11:05,624 And you got to dance dirty. 230 00:11:07,585 --> 00:11:09,753 [Shad] So, were you offended by the lyrics at all? 231 00:11:10,921 --> 00:11:13,716 I mean, I think mostly they were 232 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,176 trying to express the culture of Miami. 233 00:11:16,802 --> 00:11:19,722 The primary goal was to get you to move, 234 00:11:19,805 --> 00:11:21,432 not so much to get you to think, 235 00:11:21,724 --> 00:11:22,933 but to get you to move. 236 00:11:23,017 --> 00:11:24,393 And we saw it as comedy. 237 00:11:24,476 --> 00:11:26,353 It was fun. It was hilarious. 238 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:28,314 ♪I, I, I want some ♪ 239 00:11:28,564 --> 00:11:30,190 ♪I, I, I want some ♪ 240 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:33,861 [Mr. Mixx] Finally, somebody brought to life that wide-open, 241 00:11:34,570 --> 00:11:38,073 crazy, sexual thought process of the young people that was down there. 242 00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:40,701 It was like we were the spokesperson for the whole area. 243 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:42,870 ♪I, I, I want some ♪ 244 00:11:46,832 --> 00:11:49,251 [Uncle Luke] The first album was... This is who we are. 245 00:11:49,376 --> 00:11:51,795 You know, so we had to live up to our reputation. 246 00:11:51,921 --> 00:11:54,590 That's the highway on which we are traveling now, 247 00:11:54,673 --> 00:11:57,676 and so we need to create more songs like that. 248 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,930 It was like, "I'm gonna make the records worse than what they are. 249 00:12:01,013 --> 00:12:03,015 ["Me So Horny" plays] 250 00:12:04,683 --> 00:12:07,937 ♪i> Oh, me so horny Me love you long time?♪ 251 00:12:08,020 --> 00:12:09,855 [Shad] By the time "Me So Horny" hit, 252 00:12:09,939 --> 00:12:12,816 Luke's raunchy and comedic vision for 2 Live Crew 253 00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:15,069 proved more successful than he ever imagined. 254 00:12:15,319 --> 00:12:18,989 Luke records had become one of the biggest black owned labels in America, 255 00:12:19,448 --> 00:12:22,201 but 2 Live wasn't just big with black audiences. 256 00:12:22,534 --> 00:12:26,288 They crossed over and that brought a whole new set of problems. 257 00:12:27,957 --> 00:12:33,087 [Disco Rick] When you got to "Me So Horny," it changed. 258 00:12:33,170 --> 00:12:34,713 That shit was over the top. 259 00:12:34,797 --> 00:12:38,759 That's when white folks were like, "Hey! Hold the fuck up." 260 00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:42,930 ♪Sitting at home with my dick all hard ♪ 261 00:12:43,013 --> 00:12:46,225 ♪So I got the black book For a freak to call ♪ 262 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:50,145 ♪Picked up the telephone Then dialed the seven digits ♪ 263 00:12:50,521 --> 00:12:53,941 ♪Said "Yo, this Marquis, baby Are you down with it?"?♪ 264 00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:57,277 A lot of people were like, "That stuff that y'all are talking about, 265 00:12:57,361 --> 00:12:58,737 we don't understand it." 266 00:12:59,321 --> 00:13:00,531 And you know, I'm young, 267 00:13:00,614 --> 00:13:02,866 so, you know, I'm like, "Whatever." 268 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:05,619 It was exciting. We were pissing people off, 269 00:13:05,703 --> 00:13:07,079 and fucking with everybody. 270 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:10,791 ♪Girls always ask me why I fuck so much ♪ 271 00:13:10,874 --> 00:13:14,586 ♪I saw what's wrong baby doll With a quick nut ♪ 272 00:13:14,712 --> 00:13:16,296 [reporter 1] There is mounting concern 273 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,799 that the music teenagers are listening to, rap, 274 00:13:18,882 --> 00:13:20,134 is getting too explicit. 275 00:13:20,384 --> 00:13:23,887 [reporter 2] Susan Pierce is a parent who is not impressed by 2 Live Crew. 276 00:13:23,971 --> 00:13:27,307 It's your job as a parent, is to set some standards for your kids. 277 00:13:27,391 --> 00:13:28,976 [Uncle Luke] When we started crossing over, 278 00:13:29,059 --> 00:13:30,853 white kids starting liking it. 279 00:13:31,145 --> 00:13:33,188 These kids were blasting this, 280 00:13:33,272 --> 00:13:36,692 in the parking lots at the high schools. 281 00:13:36,775 --> 00:13:38,944 These were Bible Belt towns. 282 00:13:39,236 --> 00:13:41,238 Parents and everybody started freaking out. 283 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:45,034 I think this is nothing but verbal pollutants. 284 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,369 [Trick Daddy] There was a sheriff called Nick Navarro. 285 00:13:47,453 --> 00:13:50,622 He was a hater for reasons he didn't even understand. 286 00:13:50,706 --> 00:13:54,668 Sheriff Nick Navarro basically said, 287 00:13:54,752 --> 00:13:57,588 "This music is garbage, I'm gonna shut it down." 288 00:13:58,088 --> 00:14:00,215 [reporter 1] A federal judge in South Florida 289 00:14:00,299 --> 00:14:03,427 declared 2 Live Crew's album, As Nasty As They Wanna Be, 290 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,804 obscene by local community standards. 291 00:14:05,888 --> 00:14:08,599 On Friday, a record store owner was arrested 292 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:11,143 for selling the album to an undercover deputy. 293 00:14:11,226 --> 00:14:13,479 [reporter 2] This is the only album banned in Broward. 294 00:14:13,604 --> 00:14:16,356 Despite that, Freeman continued selling the records and tapes 295 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,151 and challenged Sheriff Nick Navarro to arrest him for it. 296 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,361 I saw him on television saying, 297 00:14:21,445 --> 00:14:24,782 "I've been selling it, and I'm selling it, and I will continue to sell it. 298 00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:27,868 We're here to arrest him, because there's no one above the law. 299 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:29,995 [man] America is free, free for everybody. 300 00:14:30,287 --> 00:14:34,249 And, uh, as long as this is America, and I'm not living in Cuba, 301 00:14:34,625 --> 00:14:36,126 I feel my rights are violated. 302 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:41,381 [Disco Rick] It was all over the news. 303 00:14:41,465 --> 00:14:43,467 Don't go into Broward County, 304 00:14:43,592 --> 00:14:46,929 and do this type of music in our fuckin' city. 305 00:14:49,306 --> 00:14:52,059 Oh, buddy. But they did it. 306 00:14:58,148 --> 00:14:59,608 [Uncle Luke] Yeah, I ended up telling the guys, 307 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:00,818 "Look we going to go in this club. 308 00:15:00,901 --> 00:15:03,529 and we're going to sing these songs, in Broward County, 309 00:15:03,612 --> 00:15:05,239 home of Nick Navarro, 310 00:15:05,322 --> 00:15:08,367 the guy who started this whole thing of banning our music. 311 00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,911 I'mma tell you now, there's going to be undercovers, all that. 312 00:15:10,994 --> 00:15:12,121 We're going to jail tonight." 313 00:15:12,204 --> 00:15:17,042 [crowd chanting] 2 Live Crew! 2 Live Crew!?2 Live Crew! 314 00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,878 [Uncle Luke] Everybody knew we were doing this gig 315 00:15:20,379 --> 00:15:22,548 after the song was banned, 316 00:15:22,631 --> 00:15:24,842 and so they're all ready to go to jail, too. 317 00:15:25,134 --> 00:15:27,845 You know what I'm saying? Everybody knew what the deal was. 318 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,848 [man] We have drug problems tearing the whole world apart, 319 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:32,558 but why they concernin' on this? 320 00:15:32,641 --> 00:15:34,476 We got all these police sitting around here, 321 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,353 waiting for something to happen. 322 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:39,314 Why they can't go out there when they see what's happening every day, 323 00:15:39,398 --> 00:15:40,482 not a one-time event? 324 00:15:40,607 --> 00:15:42,109 [crowd cheering]?2 Live Crew! 325 00:15:42,192 --> 00:15:45,821 [Uncle Luke] I got on stage, and I could smell a cop a mile away. 326 00:15:45,904 --> 00:15:49,199 They'll have a Dolphins jersey on with a cowboy hat-- police. 327 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:50,534 You know what I'm saying? 328 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:53,787 They had these tight pants on-- police. 329 00:15:53,996 --> 00:15:55,998 They just looked totally out of place. 330 00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:01,712 It was like, "F this, F the police, F everybody." 331 00:16:01,795 --> 00:16:04,590 We gonna sing the songs and if we go to jail, we go to jail." 332 00:16:05,132 --> 00:16:07,426 In the end, we start singing the songs. 333 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:11,180 -Let me hear you say, "Oh, me so horny!" -[crowd] Oh, me so horny! 334 00:16:11,263 --> 00:16:14,683 ♪Somebody say, "Oh, me so horny!" Oh, me so horny ♪ 335 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:18,353 ♪Let me hear you say?"Oh, me so horny!" Me love you long time ♪ 336 00:16:18,437 --> 00:16:21,064 [Shad] What were you thinking at that time with the police attention? 337 00:16:21,148 --> 00:16:23,066 I'm like,"This shit is fuckin' cool! 338 00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:26,528 We're out here singing these crazy ass songs. 339 00:16:27,196 --> 00:16:28,488 Let's go to jail!" 340 00:16:29,406 --> 00:16:32,326 ♪Sitting at home with my dick all hard ♪ 341 00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:36,246 ♪So I got the black book For a freak to call ♪ 342 00:16:36,330 --> 00:16:38,332 [Uncle Luke] As soon as we went out the back door... 343 00:16:38,415 --> 00:16:40,250 -[siren wails] -[police chatter on radio] 344 00:16:40,334 --> 00:16:41,710 ...they hauled me off to jail. 345 00:16:47,674 --> 00:16:50,260 [Shad] That night, 2 Live Crew were arrested and charged 346 00:16:50,344 --> 00:16:51,970 for what the Broward County police 347 00:16:52,054 --> 00:16:53,931 deemed to be an obscene performance. 348 00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:56,725 And the battle that started with Sheriff Nick Navarro 349 00:16:56,808 --> 00:16:58,644 had exploded into a legal war 350 00:16:58,727 --> 00:17:00,938 with wide-reaching consequences. 351 00:17:01,355 --> 00:17:03,065 2 Live Crew were now facing a trial 352 00:17:03,148 --> 00:17:06,109 that would challenge one of America's most sacred values, 353 00:17:06,276 --> 00:17:07,818 the right of free speech, 354 00:17:08,028 --> 00:17:12,199 and put hip-hop's entire future, as a voice for the voiceless, at stake. 355 00:17:13,325 --> 00:17:18,163 [Donahue show intro music] 356 00:17:18,247 --> 00:17:21,625 [Donahue] This is a multi-millionaire and he's going to jail. 357 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,710 Here is 2 Live Crew. 358 00:17:23,794 --> 00:17:29,341 ♪I met this bitch standing on the block Singing doo wah diddy ♪ 359 00:17:29,424 --> 00:17:30,759 [Donahue] Is this music obscene? 360 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:33,220 This is the first time that a record 361 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:35,931 has been the center of an obscenity charge 362 00:17:36,014 --> 00:17:38,600 with an arrest ordered by a federal judge. 363 00:17:39,226 --> 00:17:42,521 ♪She'll suck on my dick If I buy her a rock ♪ 364 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:46,650 [Uncle Luke]?Millie Jackson did this. You know, she cussed on her records. 365 00:17:47,025 --> 00:17:49,528 Eddie Murphy, and Richard Pryor. 366 00:17:49,695 --> 00:17:51,488 They're doing it on comedy records. 367 00:17:51,571 --> 00:17:55,075 You know, Dice Clay was probably more raunchy than we ever could imagine, 368 00:17:55,325 --> 00:17:57,494 but the difference between them, 369 00:17:57,786 --> 00:18:00,122 these record labels are owned by white guys. 370 00:18:00,872 --> 00:18:03,000 Why wasn't no pushback against them? 371 00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:06,336 It became a free speech issue for me. 372 00:18:06,545 --> 00:18:10,340 You know, "Does the First Amendment apply to African Americans?" 373 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,134 -So, I got to fight this. -[Shad] Yeah. 374 00:18:13,844 --> 00:18:15,971 I originally lost in federal court 375 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:19,391 when Nick Navarro banned the record. 376 00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:22,185 So, we had to fight this, on appeals. 377 00:18:22,269 --> 00:18:25,939 I'm out to put Luther Campbell and Skywalker Records out of business, 378 00:18:26,023 --> 00:18:28,275 out of the business of trafficking in obscenity, 379 00:18:28,358 --> 00:18:29,693 which is criminal activity. 380 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:31,445 [crowd] 2 Live Crew, too obscene! 381 00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:33,030 [man 1] We don't want this garbage in our town. 382 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:34,197 [man 2] Our society is plagued... 383 00:18:34,281 --> 00:18:38,493 -[lady] It's sick. -...by sexual immorality,?incest, rape, 384 00:18:38,577 --> 00:18:40,370 and we wonder what's causing this. 385 00:18:40,454 --> 00:18:42,289 Sex is to be enjoyed in a good Christian marriage. 386 00:18:42,372 --> 00:18:43,874 [reporter] Do you think 2 Live Crew should go to jail? 387 00:18:44,041 --> 00:18:45,334 Yes, I sure do. 388 00:18:45,417 --> 00:18:49,504 [Uncle Luke] It came at a time where hip-hop was going pop, 389 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:54,259 And a lot of white families didn't like that. 390 00:18:54,718 --> 00:18:57,054 We're asking the recording industry 391 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,681 to voluntarily assist parents who are concerned 392 00:18:59,765 --> 00:19:02,642 by placing a warning label on music products 393 00:19:02,726 --> 00:19:06,063 due to explicit sexual or violent lyrics. 394 00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:08,065 A woman is not dog meat, you know. 395 00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:10,525 If you listen to the lyrics, it's telling a woman she's nothing 396 00:19:10,609 --> 00:19:12,903 [Jack Thompson] There are 600 sexual references. 397 00:19:12,986 --> 00:19:17,032 There are descriptions and glorifications of the brutalization of women. 398 00:19:17,115 --> 00:19:18,784 We don't talk about harassment 399 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:22,371 and sexually brutalizing women in my music! You're out of your mind. 400 00:19:22,454 --> 00:19:24,790 You quote that from another album. 401 00:19:24,873 --> 00:19:28,168 We don't do that in my music! I'm tired of you saying that, too! 402 00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:31,546 [Uncle Luke] I remember my uncle telling me these stories about him 403 00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:33,048 owning his painting company, 404 00:19:33,131 --> 00:19:34,424 and when he got so big, 405 00:19:34,508 --> 00:19:37,928 you know, the white people start coming at him to try to shut him down. 406 00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:39,888 And this is them coming after me. 407 00:19:40,305 --> 00:19:42,015 It's almost like Elvis. 408 00:19:42,099 --> 00:19:46,103 You got this guy shaking his hips in the white households. 409 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:49,106 Where you got that from? You got that from the brothers?out the corner. 410 00:19:49,272 --> 00:19:51,108 You dancing like the black guys. 411 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:54,945 And so it was the same thing, but mine was on steroids. 412 00:19:55,028 --> 00:19:57,072 It was, "You're going to jail." 413 00:19:57,364 --> 00:19:58,824 I tell you, this is about race. 414 00:19:58,907 --> 00:20:00,283 You listen to those words, 415 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:03,453 and you listen to the last song about Opa-Locka, about Liberty City, 416 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:05,789 and when you see some of the videos that we've got, 417 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:08,375 this groups speaks from a special place, 418 00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:11,962 and it may be that the Jack Thompsons and other people who complain about it 419 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:13,630 have no sense of that world. 420 00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:16,550 You would have to know our culture in order to judge us, 421 00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:19,261 and those people in there don't know our culture. 422 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:21,388 When are you going to give back to the state of Florida 423 00:20:21,471 --> 00:20:23,807 the proceeds from your sale of this album to children? 424 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:26,309 [Uncle Luke] Hey, Jack, have a nice day, Jack! 425 00:20:26,393 --> 00:20:28,019 You're losing, Jack! 426 00:20:28,103 --> 00:20:31,982 [Uncle Luke] The fight eventually ended up becoming a fight for hip hop. 427 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:37,154 You'll hear violent sex acts, you'll hear women being abused, you'll hear 428 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:39,906 "suck my [bleep], lick my [bleep]." 429 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:41,533 All of these things-- 430 00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:42,993 [Uncle Luke] If we had lost that case, 431 00:20:43,076 --> 00:20:46,663 because it was a federal case, everything in hip-hop 432 00:20:47,414 --> 00:20:50,500 with explicit lyrics would have been deemed obscene, 433 00:20:50,584 --> 00:20:53,712 and there would have been case law and precedent already set. 434 00:20:53,962 --> 00:20:55,213 That would've been on the books, 435 00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:56,923 -wouldn't have been able to came off. -[Shad] Wow. 436 00:20:57,007 --> 00:21:00,802 So, you wouldn't have had no explicit lyrics in any hip-hop record. 437 00:21:02,846 --> 00:21:06,224 [woman] State of Florida, Plaintiff, versus Luther Campbell, Defendant. 438 00:21:07,642 --> 00:21:11,354 We, the jury, find as follows as to?the defendant, Luther Campbell, 439 00:21:13,023 --> 00:21:14,691 the defendant is not guilty. 440 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,776 [crowd applauds] 441 00:21:17,736 --> 00:21:22,032 [chanting] 2 Live Crew!?2 Live Crew! 2 Live Crew! 442 00:21:23,658 --> 00:21:26,203 [Trick Daddy] When Luke won that freedom of speech lawsuit, 443 00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:29,789 that solidified everything when it came to music. 444 00:21:29,873 --> 00:21:30,999 [crowd cheering] 445 00:21:31,082 --> 00:21:33,168 There's a lesson here, I think, for everybody. 446 00:21:33,251 --> 00:21:35,712 When you live in this country, no matter what color you are, 447 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,547 you still have a right to speak. 448 00:21:37,631 --> 00:21:39,508 ♪-Suck my dick -Suck my dick ♪ 449 00:21:39,591 --> 00:21:41,593 ♪-Lick my balls -Lick my balls ♪ 450 00:21:41,676 --> 00:21:43,261 ♪-Kiss my ass -Kiss my ass ♪ 451 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:47,432 [man] The entire music and record industry has been watching this trial, 452 00:21:47,516 --> 00:21:49,100 and it's just great to know that 453 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:51,186 the First Amendment's alive and well in America. 454 00:21:51,269 --> 00:21:54,022 [Disco Rick] Every rapper right now should thank him. 455 00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:57,859 Motherfuckers wouldn't be able to say shit on those records 456 00:21:57,943 --> 00:22:00,070 if it weren't for that goddamn person. 457 00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:01,655 Luke fought for freedom. 458 00:22:01,738 --> 00:22:05,700 ♪I saw this bitch walking down the block Singing ♪ 459 00:22:05,784 --> 00:22:08,787 ♪Doo wah diddy Diddy dum, diddy doo ♪ 460 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:11,039 [Shad] Luke's victory for the right to free speech 461 00:22:11,122 --> 00:22:12,874 was a historic win for all artists. 462 00:22:14,543 --> 00:22:16,419 But it was going to take more than bass and ass 463 00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:17,837 to earn respect in hip-hop. 464 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:21,258 As far as the rap community in New York was concerned, 465 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:22,842 the South was still country. 466 00:22:23,426 --> 00:22:25,512 The third coast needed MCs that could compete 467 00:22:25,595 --> 00:22:28,265 with Mellie Mel, Rakim, and Chuck D. 468 00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:29,933 And they would find their champion. 469 00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:33,728 A boxer with a take-no-prisoners mentality from the Fifth Ward in Houston. 470 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,607 ♪When I left my neighborhood To make this big break ♪ 471 00:22:37,691 --> 00:22:40,277 ♪I promised my road dogs That I'd dedicate ♪ 472 00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:43,154 ♪A super jam to the hood That's sharp as a sickle ♪ 473 00:22:43,238 --> 00:22:46,116 ♪So here it is, 5th Ward Better known as the nickel ♪ 474 00:22:46,199 --> 00:22:49,452 ♪But when a sucka starts illing The chilling disrupts ♪ 475 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:53,415 ♪And like hemorrhoids We tear they ass up in the Ward! ♪ 476 00:22:55,834 --> 00:22:59,754 -[Shad] Willie, thanks for your time, man. -Hey, man, you got it. Any time. 477 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:02,048 [unintelligible whisper] [chuckles[ Nah, man. 478 00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:04,467 Um, I want to start with asking you 479 00:23:04,551 --> 00:23:06,136 about the area of Houston where you're from. 480 00:23:07,137 --> 00:23:08,930 The Fifth Ward is where I grew up, 481 00:23:09,014 --> 00:23:11,057 so that's on the north side of Houston, 482 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:14,227 and it's typical of any ghetto. 483 00:23:14,811 --> 00:23:17,439 Bunch of crime, poverty, 484 00:23:17,564 --> 00:23:21,151 insufficient living, insufficient income, 485 00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:24,821 insufficient clothing, insufficient self-esteem. 486 00:23:25,822 --> 00:23:26,740 All of that. 487 00:23:27,157 --> 00:23:30,160 ♪Everybody know my hood They say it's no good ♪ 488 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:33,371 ♪But they don't talk this shit In my neck of the woods ♪ 489 00:23:33,455 --> 00:23:36,291 ♪We ain't got the homes Or the fancy rides ♪ 490 00:23:36,374 --> 00:23:39,169 ♪So the only thing we have To fight for is our pride ♪ 491 00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,671 [Willie D] I was a product of my environment?and I felt like 492 00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:44,591 in order to survive, I had to be tough. 493 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:47,886 When you're growing up in the hood, you can't show any signs of weakness, 494 00:23:48,637 --> 00:23:50,055 even if you are afraid. 495 00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:53,433 -♪You make a move and you're dead?-♪i> Crack is sold on the main ♪ 496 00:23:53,516 --> 00:23:55,310 [Willie D] So, I started boxing. 497 00:23:55,727 --> 00:23:57,854 I just went on a knockout spree. 498 00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:00,565 I fought everybody, like, anybody. 499 00:24:00,732 --> 00:24:02,609 I was like, "I'm knocking everything out." 500 00:24:02,776 --> 00:24:06,237 Around the same time, we were listening to Run-D.M.C., 501 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:08,698 and a buddy of mine, he was like, 502 00:24:08,782 --> 00:24:10,075 "Oh man, me and Willie can do that." 503 00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:13,161 ♪Watch your back, stash your crack Because you might get jacked ♪ 504 00:24:13,244 --> 00:24:16,831 [Willie D] So my thing was, "I'mma?either fight my way out the ghetto, literally, 505 00:24:16,915 --> 00:24:18,917 or I'm going to rap my way out of here." 506 00:24:19,334 --> 00:24:21,211 The way I came to the conclusion, 507 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:24,297 I said, "Girls love boxing and girls love rappers." 508 00:24:24,381 --> 00:24:26,966 At the end of the night, I don't have headaches when I rap. 509 00:24:27,717 --> 00:24:31,012 At the time, hip-hop was starting to catch on in Houston. 510 00:24:31,096 --> 00:24:35,767 The nightclub that everybody went to was the Rhinestone Wrangler. 511 00:24:35,850 --> 00:24:39,729 ♪What's up with these motherfuckers Talking about what hood they from ♪ 512 00:24:39,813 --> 00:24:41,398 [Willie D]?People came there to party, 513 00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:44,526 but on Sunday nights, people came there for the battle. 514 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:46,820 The battle wouldn't start until 2:00 a.m. 515 00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:49,864 People would get fired from work, be late for work, 516 00:24:50,407 --> 00:24:53,576 have issues at home with their spouses for coming in late, 517 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:57,539 because nobody would leave that club until they watched that battle. 518 00:24:57,622 --> 00:25:00,458 The stage is here. DJ booth in the back, 519 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:03,420 and this place has people from wall to wall, 520 00:25:03,586 --> 00:25:04,921 standing literally side by side. 521 00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:06,464 It's packed with so many people 522 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,049 just to see the rap contest. 523 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,259 And the crazy thing was 524 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:11,094 the club wouldn't be crowded like that 525 00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:12,762 until that time of morning. 526 00:25:12,846 --> 00:25:14,264 Two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning, 527 00:25:14,347 --> 00:25:15,807 folks would just start coming out. 528 00:25:16,224 --> 00:25:20,061 I mean, just to hear names like Jazzie Red, Wickett Crickett, 529 00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:24,107 Lester "Sir" Pace, Royal Flush, Rap-A-Tron. 530 00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:26,943 [Shad] Of course, we hear about the rivalry between you and Willie D. 531 00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:27,861 Oh, yeah. 532 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,369 [Willie D] He thrashed my ass the first dozen times that I went up against him, 533 00:25:36,453 --> 00:25:40,665 you know, like, you know how Ali needed Frazier? 534 00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:43,918 You know how Magic needed Bird? 535 00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:45,670 I needed Romeo. 536 00:25:45,754 --> 00:25:48,006 It was like, clash of the superheroes, you know. 537 00:25:48,089 --> 00:25:51,259 I'll never forget, he did a round with me, and he said something like, 538 00:25:51,342 --> 00:25:55,472 "You bad, and this is true, but your ass is blacker than barbecue." 539 00:25:55,555 --> 00:25:58,641 And I mean, everybody just fell out on the floor, man. 540 00:25:58,725 --> 00:26:00,894 -[mic drops, static whines] -[audience] Ooh! 541 00:26:02,312 --> 00:26:03,980 We going for it, you know, 542 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:06,483 like, "Hey man, all is fair in love and war." 543 00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:09,486 I find our your girlfriend pregnant by somebody else, 544 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:10,737 I'm talking about it. 545 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:13,031 I find out you working at Popeye's, 546 00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:15,867 and you on this stage talkin' about how much money you got, 547 00:26:16,618 --> 00:26:17,994 I'm talking about it. 548 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:21,039 So, needless to say, there was a few fights. 549 00:26:21,122 --> 00:26:27,545 [K-Rino] These were all guys with dominant, aggressive mentalities, 550 00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:29,839 so that's gonna automatically 551 00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:32,050 translate over into the rap. 552 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,929 These battles were taking place in front of large crowds of people, 553 00:26:36,012 --> 00:26:37,555 so there's a lot at stake, 554 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:40,141 because everybody wanted to be the best. 555 00:26:40,225 --> 00:26:42,727 [Bun B] The mentality of being a Southern rapper, 556 00:26:42,811 --> 00:26:45,188 even more specifically a Texas rapper, 557 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,525 was the fact of how people looked at Southerners in general. 558 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:51,694 as being a slower, less intelligent individual, 559 00:26:51,778 --> 00:26:54,864 as opposed to an East Coast or a Northerner. 560 00:26:54,948 --> 00:26:58,117 We were fighting against not just each other, 561 00:26:58,201 --> 00:27:00,703 but also the outward image of who we were. 562 00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:03,414 So, if we wanted to be heard, we had to scream loud. 563 00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:06,292 You had to really make it known that you were trying to be out here 564 00:27:06,376 --> 00:27:07,585 representing and doing this. 565 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:09,295 [Willie D] The big thing about the battle scene 566 00:27:09,379 --> 00:27:11,256 is that that's all we had at the time. 567 00:27:11,923 --> 00:27:14,759 We didn't have artists putting out records at the time. 568 00:27:15,552 --> 00:27:18,096 All we had was the battles, that was the only... 569 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:21,391 way that we could really participate. 570 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,689 [Steve Fournier]?I made all these trips to New York, and all I heard was, 571 00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:30,775 "Y'all ain't got nobody out there doing no music." 572 00:27:30,859 --> 00:27:33,778 So yeah, you know, it got under my skin a little bit. 573 00:27:33,862 --> 00:27:38,074 And I just said, "Man, somebody's got to do something." 574 00:27:38,992 --> 00:27:43,162 And one night, I was in the parking lot at the Rhinestone Wrangler, 575 00:27:43,246 --> 00:27:45,623 and Little J rolled up. 576 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,083 I'll never forget. 577 00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:51,963 He was the only one at the time that rolled up in a convertible Mercedes. 578 00:27:52,046 --> 00:27:54,048 He had the Kangol on, and the gold chain. 579 00:27:54,132 --> 00:27:55,508 He rolled up and he goes, 580 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:57,594 "I got this record. Will you play it?" 581 00:27:57,719 --> 00:28:00,138 And I said, "Where is it from?" He said, "It's mine." 582 00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:01,681 Rap-A-Lot. 583 00:28:02,098 --> 00:28:03,016 Houston. 584 00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,643 First record. Car Freaks. 585 00:28:05,894 --> 00:28:09,105 ♪Girls, girls hounding homeboy All day nonstop ♪ 586 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,566 ♪Because he got a live car She's on his jock ♪ 587 00:28:11,649 --> 00:28:13,401 [Steve] This is the first Houston rap record 588 00:28:13,484 --> 00:28:15,486 ever to be played in a Houston club, 589 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:16,738 and the reaction of the people was... 590 00:28:16,821 --> 00:28:19,616 they were going crazy, because it was... theirs. 591 00:28:19,699 --> 00:28:22,160 ♪When a car freak Grabbed me from behind ♪ 592 00:28:22,243 --> 00:28:24,245 ♪i> It was a close encounter Of the worst kind ♪ 593 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:26,539 ♪i> Jams and inner rhymes Make the girl feel fine ♪ 594 00:28:26,623 --> 00:28:28,583 ♪I can hear the beat Just don't get left behind ♪ 595 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:31,294 [Shad] Houston finally had something that was theirs. 596 00:28:31,377 --> 00:28:34,589 The brains behind it all was a car salesman named Little J, 597 00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:36,549 aka J Prince. 598 00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:38,760 As a founder for Rap-A-Lot Records, 599 00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:41,638 J wanted Houston's baddest MCs for the Ghetto Boys. 600 00:28:42,472 --> 00:28:46,643 But it would take him three tries before he would set the final and legendary trio. 601 00:28:47,018 --> 00:28:49,687 The Rhinestone's resident champ, Willie D, 602 00:28:49,812 --> 00:28:52,273 a wild Rhinestone B-Boy named Bushwick Bill, 603 00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:56,861 and Scarface, a young, Houston hard-head from the South Side. 604 00:28:57,111 --> 00:29:01,658 Together, they would change hip-hop's perception of Southern MCs forever. 605 00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:03,034 Yes, slate the motherfucker. 606 00:29:03,117 --> 00:29:05,203 [PA] Scene 113, Take 1, Scarface. 607 00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:07,747 Yeah, what he said. 608 00:29:09,707 --> 00:29:10,875 [chuckles] 609 00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:13,628 [Scarface] James Prince was the founder, 610 00:29:13,711 --> 00:29:18,758 the mastermind, the brain, the business mind behind the Geto Boys. 611 00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:22,136 He saw some shit at 22 years old 612 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:25,390 that we couldn't even fathom... even imagine. 613 00:29:25,723 --> 00:29:29,435 [Scarface] Okay, this is a fucking kid, a couple of years out of high school 614 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,062 with a vision like this. 615 00:29:31,145 --> 00:29:32,438 You see what I'm saying? 616 00:29:32,522 --> 00:29:35,650 So, he was light years ahead of his time. 617 00:29:35,733 --> 00:29:37,485 [phone ringing] 618 00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:40,238 -♪i> The Grandmaster speaking?♪-♪i> Yo D, what's up? ♪ 619 00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:43,992 [Willie D] First step was going right into?the studio. We're now... 620 00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:48,663 We're writing and recording about 18, 19 hours a day, 621 00:29:48,746 --> 00:29:50,623 and we sleeping 4 or 5 hours. 622 00:29:51,332 --> 00:29:53,710 Jay was like a general and we were soldiers. 623 00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:57,463 "Okay, what's my assignment? Okay." You know? 624 00:29:58,047 --> 00:30:00,341 Wake up. Give me my assignment. 625 00:30:00,425 --> 00:30:02,927 Go execute. Like soldiers. 626 00:30:03,011 --> 00:30:04,929 ♪Gimme my card radio sucker ♪ 627 00:30:05,013 --> 00:30:07,432 ♪I'll kick your ass And take the motherfucker ♪ 628 00:30:07,515 --> 00:30:10,143 ♪Everybody knows New York Is where it began ♪ 629 00:30:10,226 --> 00:30:11,477 ♪So let the ego shit end?♪ 630 00:30:11,561 --> 00:30:14,105 -They only gave us a week. One week. -One week? 631 00:30:14,188 --> 00:30:17,942 ♪When will you stupid motherfuckers learn One way or another you get burned ♪ 632 00:30:18,026 --> 00:30:19,444 I know how to do an album now. 633 00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:21,029 I can do a whole album in two days... 634 00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:23,531 because I've always had to do it in a week. 635 00:30:24,115 --> 00:30:26,200 If you didn't get the song right it's off the album, 636 00:30:26,284 --> 00:30:27,285 next motherfucker is up. 637 00:30:27,368 --> 00:30:30,329 ♪Paranoid, sitting in a deep sweat I've got to fuck before the week ends ♪ 638 00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:34,959 [Romeo Poet] hey all had different personalities. 639 00:30:35,543 --> 00:30:38,171 And that's what really sold the Geto Boys, you know. 640 00:30:38,254 --> 00:30:41,299 Willie D, I would say was more like country ghetto style rap. 641 00:30:41,716 --> 00:30:47,263 ♪Now I developed a criminal behavior Fuck me with me and I'll slay ya ass ♪ 642 00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:49,265 [Matt] Willie D came out just on his own vibe, 643 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:53,102 his own voice, the southern drawl, the southern slang. 644 00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:57,774 On his first album, dude was in some overalls without a shirt on. 645 00:30:57,857 --> 00:31:00,359 That was a look back then out in Fifth Ward. 646 00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:02,987 You go to Fifth Ward, dudes are in overalls without a shirt, 647 00:31:03,071 --> 00:31:05,615 riding a horse on a street, just like this. 648 00:31:05,948 --> 00:31:07,909 Literally, he came out and represented 649 00:31:07,992 --> 00:31:10,161 exactly where he's from, what he does, 650 00:31:10,244 --> 00:31:12,580 and those days were raw. 651 00:31:12,663 --> 00:31:16,000 ♪Sit alone in my four-cornered room Staring at candles?♪ 652 00:31:16,084 --> 00:31:18,377 ♪i> Dreaming of the people I've dismantled ♪ 653 00:31:18,461 --> 00:31:20,463 Face was more a lyricist, you know what I'm saying, 654 00:31:20,546 --> 00:31:23,007 and more so like hustle-type lyrics. 655 00:31:23,174 --> 00:31:25,551 ♪I said before Scarface is my identity?♪ 656 00:31:25,635 --> 00:31:28,054 ♪i> Homicidal maniac with Suicidal tendencies ♪ 657 00:31:28,137 --> 00:31:30,723 [man] Down here, motherfuckers were rapping about the streets. 658 00:31:30,807 --> 00:31:32,600 This is a hardcore fucking town, bro. 659 00:31:32,683 --> 00:31:34,769 I'm ain't talking 'bout how clean my fuckin' car is. 660 00:31:35,186 --> 00:31:36,979 I'm talking about these motherfuckin' streets, 661 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,483 in a very polished, skillful manner. 662 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:44,403 Scarface was so fuckin' talented, that little bastard. 663 00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:47,615 Everything he said you can visualize it and see it. 664 00:31:47,698 --> 00:31:50,493 [Lil Troy] Like, "Damn, that's what's happening, that's what's going on." 665 00:31:50,868 --> 00:31:55,665 ♪The cops have the place surrounded Hunting for a way out, I found it ♪ 666 00:31:55,748 --> 00:31:59,710 [Lil Troy] You know, he's so vivid, so vivid with his perception of life, 667 00:32:00,294 --> 00:32:02,255 and it touched you, right here. 668 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,217 Whether you lived it or not, you could feel it. 669 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,970 ♪The sight of blood excites me Shoot you in the head ♪ 670 00:32:09,053 --> 00:32:11,180 ♪Sit down and watch you bleed to death ♪ 671 00:32:11,264 --> 00:32:13,766 [Romeo Poet] And Bushwick was known as?the psychotic one. 672 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:16,602 ♪This is what goes on in a mind Of a lunatic ♪ 673 00:32:16,686 --> 00:32:21,190 [Bushwick] That was reality horrorcore hip-hop. 674 00:32:21,941 --> 00:32:24,610 My lyrics were talking about killing this, killing that, 675 00:32:24,694 --> 00:32:27,405 fuck this, fuck that. I don't give a fuck about whatever. 676 00:32:27,488 --> 00:32:28,865 That's all my lyrics were about. 677 00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:30,867 ♪I got the mind of a lunatic ♪ 678 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:34,537 [Romeo Poet] People used to always say, the best rappers?were out of New York. 679 00:32:34,787 --> 00:32:36,289 They'd say educated rhymes, 680 00:32:36,372 --> 00:32:39,417 but we were the first hardcore people to be saying anything goes. 681 00:32:42,211 --> 00:32:45,965 [Willie D] New Yorkers were very resistant toward us. 682 00:32:46,048 --> 00:32:48,551 But it wasn't just because we were from the South. 683 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:50,928 It had a lot to do with our content. 684 00:32:51,012 --> 00:32:54,557 We were like, "Fuck this, fuck that, motherfucker, bitch, ho, nigga... 685 00:32:55,224 --> 00:32:58,728 fucking motherfucker, fuck that, fuck..." We didn't give a fuck. 686 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,025 [Willie D] We played this spot in New York, and 687 00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:05,318 it was packed. 688 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:08,070 [crowd booing] 689 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,114 [Willie D] he crowd just started booing. 690 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:13,451 "Boo, get the fuck off stage. 691 00:33:13,534 --> 00:33:15,828 Boo, motherfucker, boo!" 692 00:33:15,912 --> 00:33:17,788 [crowd booing] 693 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,333 [Willie D] And, I swear before God, 694 00:33:21,125 --> 00:33:24,212 I remember looking out into the audience and I saw... 695 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:27,840 dudes booing us so much, they started taking breaks and shit, 696 00:33:27,924 --> 00:33:29,467 like they're booing us in shifts. 697 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:31,719 Motherfucker over here started booing, 698 00:33:31,802 --> 00:33:34,597 and they start getting tired, and people over here started booing. 699 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,349 The whole time they're booing, I said, 700 00:33:36,432 --> 00:33:38,184 "Yeah, motherfuckers, we'll be back." 701 00:33:38,267 --> 00:33:41,229 And I slammed the mic on the stage, and walked off stage 702 00:33:42,271 --> 00:33:43,522 Then one year later... 703 00:33:43,606 --> 00:33:45,942 [hums] 704 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,401 You know, one year later. 705 00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,695 We come back with Mind Playing Tricks, 706 00:33:49,779 --> 00:33:51,614 and we sold out Madison Square Garden. 707 00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:54,951 ♪At night I can't sleep I toss and turn ♪ 708 00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:58,204 ♪Candlesticks in the dark Visions of bodies being burned♪ 709 00:33:58,287 --> 00:34:00,289 ♪Four walls just staring at a nigga ♪ 710 00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,917 ♪I'm paranoid, sleeping with my finger On the trigger♪ 711 00:34:03,501 --> 00:34:05,544 ♪My mother's always stressing I ain't living right ♪ 712 00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:08,129 ♪But I ain't going out with a fight ♪ 713 00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:09,714 [Devin the Dude] It brought the whole house down. 714 00:34:09,799 --> 00:34:13,343 There's no other song in Houston history, I don't think, 715 00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:16,180 that has more spins than that. 716 00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:20,142 The storytelling, every verse kept you interested, 717 00:34:20,268 --> 00:34:21,894 and kept you wondering what's gonna happen, 718 00:34:22,019 --> 00:34:24,021 and the music, man, just... 719 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:26,147 [hums] 720 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:31,821 ♪I make big money, I drive big cars Everybody knows me ♪ 721 00:34:31,946 --> 00:34:35,616 ?祁?i>It's like I'm a movie star But late at night, something ain't right ♪ 722 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:38,995 ♪i> I feel I'm being tailed By the same sucker's headlights ♪ 723 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,247 ♪Is it that fool Who I ran off the block or?♪ 724 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:43,499 ♪i> Is it that clown last week that I shot ♪ 725 00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:45,917 ♪Is it the one I beat For $5,000 ♪ 726 00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:48,546 ♪Thought he had 'caine But it was Gold Medal flour ♪ 727 00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:50,923 ♪Reached under my seat Grabbed my popper for them suckers ♪ 728 00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:53,926 ♪Ain't no use to me lying I was scareder than a mother ♪ 729 00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:56,637 [Bun B] Seeing a group from Houston 730 00:34:56,846 --> 00:35:00,224 go on?Yo! MTV Raps, be on the cover of The Source, 731 00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:04,270 and finally knocking down a lot of proverbial doors 732 00:35:04,353 --> 00:35:05,938 that we felt were closed to us, 733 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:08,482 it just felt like the sky was the limit, you know. 734 00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:14,238 Yo, I want to say what's up to my man, Cool Floyd, Q-Dog, Shine... 735 00:35:15,364 --> 00:35:17,366 -Who am I missing? -Fifth Ward in the house. What's up Dre! 736 00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:20,995 [K-Rino] They the ones who gave us a voice to the rest of the world. 737 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,122 If people said Houston before that, 738 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,291 it didn't mean nothing. 739 00:35:25,541 --> 00:35:27,543 But if you say Houston even now... 740 00:35:28,544 --> 00:35:31,756 Geto Boys, Scarface, Willie D, Bushwick Bill, 741 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:33,299 they represent that. 742 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:38,804 -♪South Park's in the house?-♪i> Fifth Ward's in the house ♪ 743 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,560 ♪Day by day it's more impossible to cope 'Cause I feel I'm the one doing dope ♪ 744 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:48,064 [Shad] The Geto Boys' breakthrough was a major turning point for hip-hop. 745 00:35:48,147 --> 00:35:51,150 Not only did they make the hip-hop gatekeepers believe in the South, 746 00:35:51,442 --> 00:35:53,944 but more importantly, they made the South believe in the South. 747 00:35:54,028 --> 00:35:56,072 And an hour and a half east of Houston, 748 00:35:56,155 --> 00:35:57,698 in tiny Port Arthur, Texas, 749 00:35:58,449 --> 00:36:02,286 two hip-hop fiends, Pimp C and Bun B, took notice. 750 00:36:06,624 --> 00:36:07,917 Pimp C's gone today, 751 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,379 but Bun B granted me an audience to tell the story of how their duo, 752 00:36:11,545 --> 00:36:15,216 UGK, would lay the foundation for the Southern sound of hip-hop. 753 00:36:15,841 --> 00:36:16,759 [Bun B] Yo, sir. 754 00:36:17,468 --> 00:36:19,428 -Thank you for coming, man. -[Shad] Thank you. 755 00:36:20,012 --> 00:36:22,139 -[Bun B] Welcome to PA, baby. -[Shad] Thank you. 756 00:36:25,935 --> 00:36:29,063 [Shad] How much was the success of the Geto Boys 757 00:36:29,146 --> 00:36:32,525 influential or inspirational for you guys? 758 00:36:33,025 --> 00:36:35,069 Hip-hop to me was something that I thought 759 00:36:35,152 --> 00:36:36,946 you had to be from somewhere else 760 00:36:37,446 --> 00:36:38,406 to do it right, 761 00:36:38,489 --> 00:36:42,910 and then I also thought that it took some special kind of talent. 762 00:36:42,993 --> 00:36:46,455 I figured the same thing that made a person a great quarterback 763 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:47,623 made someone a great rapper. 764 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,291 I thought it was something you're born with, 765 00:36:50,084 --> 00:36:51,544 inherently, right? 766 00:36:51,627 --> 00:36:55,923 And as I got to see guys from my immediate area doing it, I'm like, 767 00:36:56,006 --> 00:36:59,135 "Well, okay, he's from here... We're all from the same area. 768 00:36:59,218 --> 00:37:01,470 If they can figure out how to do it, 769 00:37:02,346 --> 00:37:05,391 you know, I might be able to figure out how to do it. 770 00:37:06,517 --> 00:37:09,770 [Bun B] I started rapping the summer before ?my sophomore year 771 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,815 in this bedroom, right behind this wall, 772 00:37:13,065 --> 00:37:15,151 but my timing was terrible, you know, 773 00:37:15,234 --> 00:37:16,652 my rap name was terrible. 774 00:37:17,278 --> 00:37:19,488 -[Shad] What was your rap name? -My rap name was Shadow Storm. 775 00:37:19,989 --> 00:37:22,324 I thought I was some kinda black superhero. 776 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:25,369 I don't know really what I was thinking. 777 00:37:25,453 --> 00:37:28,747 -Everyone was doing the superhero. -It was very awkward. 778 00:37:29,457 --> 00:37:33,419 And at the time, I remember there was a guy that was at school named Chad. 779 00:37:33,502 --> 00:37:35,171 His mom was a librarian, 780 00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:38,841 and his stepfather was the choir director at the school. 781 00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:41,260 You would go over there. His mom would let you in, 782 00:37:41,343 --> 00:37:44,722 and he'd be in there either playing some records, 783 00:37:44,972 --> 00:37:46,599 trying to find a loop or something, 784 00:37:46,682 --> 00:37:49,810 or with a keyboard or something, trying to construct a beat. 785 00:37:49,894 --> 00:37:53,230 [Shad] So, that's when you first connected musically with Pimp C. 786 00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,148 Right. 787 00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:58,819 [DJ DMD] By the time I met Pimp C, I'm a senior, 788 00:37:58,903 --> 00:38:00,821 he's a freshman in high school. 789 00:38:00,905 --> 00:38:03,365 And I remember the very first memory 790 00:38:03,449 --> 00:38:06,076 is him walking through a door of a corridor, 791 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,828 leading from the band room. 792 00:38:07,912 --> 00:38:11,248 And a trumpet player, trumpet man, 793 00:38:11,499 --> 00:38:14,084 curly hair, Jheri curl with a few-- 794 00:38:14,251 --> 00:38:15,836 It wasn't even a real Jheri curl. 795 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,963 It was an afro with a couple of curls. 796 00:38:18,506 --> 00:38:21,550 And he looked up to me and he said, "Man, I know you. 797 00:38:21,926 --> 00:38:23,135 I like what y'all doing. 798 00:38:23,552 --> 00:38:24,970 Can I learn from you or whatever?" 799 00:38:25,054 --> 00:38:26,514 And from the very first moment, 800 00:38:26,597 --> 00:38:28,682 I knew he just had a heart for hip-hop. 801 00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:30,351 I had two turntables, 802 00:38:30,684 --> 00:38:33,771 and those would operate as my sample mechanisms. 803 00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:38,317 And then we would daisy chain cassette decks to be our multi-tracker. 804 00:38:39,276 --> 00:38:40,236 That's?what I knew. 805 00:38:40,778 --> 00:38:44,907 C, he saw my rigged up concoction, 806 00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:47,618 and before I knew it, he had a multi-tracker. 807 00:38:47,785 --> 00:38:49,411 He had a keyboard, 808 00:38:49,495 --> 00:38:52,206 and he would chop up samples. 809 00:38:53,207 --> 00:38:57,169 [Bun B] A lot of us come from either a Creole or Cajun background, 810 00:38:57,253 --> 00:38:58,629 and we're very religious, too. 811 00:38:58,712 --> 00:39:02,383 so a lot of our influence is gospel music, is blues music, 812 00:39:02,508 --> 00:39:06,095 and you know, it's not traditional R&B, 813 00:39:06,345 --> 00:39:08,556 you know what I'm saying? But more like lounge, 814 00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,725 what we call a dew drop type of a sound. 815 00:39:11,809 --> 00:39:14,436 You know what I'm saying? That's kind of what a lot of us were raised on, 816 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,147 [Bun B] and Chad's deep knowledge 817 00:39:17,231 --> 00:39:19,066 of the music that was played in his house, 818 00:39:19,149 --> 00:39:21,527 all of that brought to the table, 819 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:23,862 ended up informing the music. 820 00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:26,115 We're down here. We're in the South, 821 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:27,575 making the Southern hip-hop. 822 00:39:27,658 --> 00:39:30,411 ♪I got a girl and she treat me fine ♪ 823 00:39:30,494 --> 00:39:33,163 ♪But my homies all think that I'm losing my mind ♪ 824 00:39:33,247 --> 00:39:36,500 ♪I'm trippin' and I know it 'Cause I'm all nerved up ♪ 825 00:39:36,584 --> 00:39:39,211 ♪'Cause every time I go to sleep I see this big ol' butt ♪ 826 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:43,257 [Shad] Tell me about the reception to The Southern Way EP. 827 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:44,967 [DJ DMD] The impact was amazing. 828 00:39:45,050 --> 00:39:48,387 When it dropped, everybody knew something had changed. 829 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:53,392 And it introduced to the world that R8 drum machine. 830 00:39:53,475 --> 00:39:55,811 [R8 drum machine] 831 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:57,062 ♪She gives me up ♪ 832 00:40:01,358 --> 00:40:03,027 [DJ DMD] Chad was?the one who introduced 833 00:40:03,611 --> 00:40:07,656 the use of the R8, and the kicks, and the snares, and the highs 834 00:40:07,823 --> 00:40:09,408 like they doing today. 835 00:40:10,284 --> 00:40:13,412 ♪i> I been to the mountain top And down to the valley low ♪ 836 00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:16,582 ♪Went to Austin with 3, 2, 1 Still ain't find no finer... ♪ 837 00:40:16,665 --> 00:40:18,167 [DJ Bird] When the EP came out, 838 00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:20,502 the whole community came out and supported us. 839 00:40:21,045 --> 00:40:22,171 All I seen was hype. 840 00:40:22,254 --> 00:40:24,298 Every show was getting packer and packer. 841 00:40:24,381 --> 00:40:25,966 And people just started coming. 842 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,886 ♪And everybody wonder why I smile all day ♪ 843 00:40:28,969 --> 00:40:31,764 [DJ Bird]?It was sold from record stores 844 00:40:31,847 --> 00:40:34,058 and people played it in they cars a lot. 845 00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:37,061 Guys had bass in they trunks, 846 00:40:37,603 --> 00:40:40,105 and that's when it was hitting-- boom. 847 00:40:40,189 --> 00:40:42,441 -Man, come on. -♪Just to spend it on sex ♪ 848 00:40:42,524 --> 00:40:45,361 ♪But all that really matters Is I'm happy dude ♪ 849 00:40:45,444 --> 00:40:48,155 ♪And I be happy long as I Get good soul food ♪ 850 00:40:48,238 --> 00:40:51,492 ♪UGK sayin' peace out And plenty of luck ♪ 851 00:40:51,575 --> 00:40:54,995 ♪And she could keep using Pimp C Just a use me up ♪ 852 00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:56,830 ♪Baby, baby?♪ 853 00:40:56,914 --> 00:40:58,624 ♪Baby, baby Yeah, just use me up ♪ 854 00:40:59,917 --> 00:41:01,919 ♪Just use me up Baby ♪ 855 00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:02,878 ♪Baby ♪ 856 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,963 ♪Just use me up Baby, baby ♪ 857 00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:07,383 ♪Uh, just use me up ♪ 858 00:41:07,466 --> 00:41:10,302 [Bun B] Once it started to kind of get out in the city, 859 00:41:10,386 --> 00:41:11,887 it just really took off. 860 00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:16,558 We went from literally winning a radio station contest 861 00:41:16,642 --> 00:41:19,061 to signing with Jive Records in like... 862 00:41:19,812 --> 00:41:21,480 I don't know, a hundred days. 863 00:41:22,022 --> 00:41:25,025 And the first thought of the record company was that 864 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:28,195 New York or LA really wasn't going to get it, but... 865 00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:32,282 we always felt that if we could be able to tell our story, 866 00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:34,785 in the way that we knew we could tell it, 867 00:41:34,868 --> 00:41:36,453 musically, sonically, lyrically, 868 00:41:36,537 --> 00:41:38,622 that everybody that heard it would be able 869 00:41:38,706 --> 00:41:40,416 to embrace it in some form or fashion. 870 00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:43,877 ♪I got the front, back, And side to side ♪ 871 00:41:43,961 --> 00:41:47,047 ♪I got the front, back, And side to side ♪ 872 00:41:47,131 --> 00:41:50,050 [Bun B] On Super Tight, we had been trying to 873 00:41:50,134 --> 00:41:53,137 replicate big sound from Meters records. 874 00:41:53,846 --> 00:42:00,144 So, we actually had someone help us track down Leo Nocentelli from The Meters. 875 00:42:00,686 --> 00:42:04,565 [DJ DMD] We saw all kinds of people coming in. Musicians, legendary! 876 00:42:04,648 --> 00:42:08,318 And we watched them piece records together. 877 00:42:08,402 --> 00:42:10,863 ♪Never let ho ass niggas ride ♪ 878 00:42:10,946 --> 00:42:13,907 ♪I got a '64 Chevy in my yard ♪ 879 00:42:13,991 --> 00:42:16,744 ♪A white drop top Pearl paint job is hard ♪ 880 00:42:17,327 --> 00:42:22,416 [Bun B] We had live guitar, live bass, live organ in the house. 881 00:42:22,499 --> 00:42:24,209 It was a big deal... 882 00:42:24,293 --> 00:42:28,338 and that was the kind of attention Pimp would want to bring to music. 883 00:42:29,089 --> 00:42:31,675 ♪Never let ho ass niggas ride ♪ 884 00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:37,014 ♪Tearing up four motherfuckin' corners On your block bitch ♪ 885 00:42:37,097 --> 00:42:40,809 ♪Nothin' but that bunny hop happenin' I had my daily routine ♪ 886 00:42:40,893 --> 00:42:44,730 ♪My shit is plush interior crush And nigga, I'm too clean ♪ 887 00:42:45,147 --> 00:42:48,400 [Bun B] That heavy organ influence was the one key element 888 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:53,697 in UGK music that directly tied us into that gospel sound. 889 00:42:53,781 --> 00:42:57,409 ♪I got that front, back, And side to side, Daddy ♪ 890 00:42:57,493 --> 00:43:00,913 [Bun B] A lot of humming. He was very specific about 891 00:43:00,996 --> 00:43:06,752 hand claps in certain songs. Bringing a communal vibe to the record, 892 00:43:06,835 --> 00:43:12,508 and a lot of our credit breaking through 893 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:14,635 sonically had to do with that. 894 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,553 ♪And side to side ♪ 895 00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:19,723 [Shad] Tell me about your dynamic with Pimp C in the studio. 896 00:43:19,807 --> 00:43:22,476 -Here's Pimp. Here's me. -[Shad] Yeah. 897 00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:24,228 It was always very simple. 898 00:43:24,311 --> 00:43:27,147 He was my favorite rapper. I was his favorite rapper. 899 00:43:27,231 --> 00:43:29,149 You know what I'm saying? Different reasons. 900 00:43:29,233 --> 00:43:31,193 I always admired his candor. 901 00:43:31,276 --> 00:43:33,695 He always admired my tenacity. 902 00:43:34,029 --> 00:43:37,658 ♪Never let ho ass niggas ride ♪ 903 00:43:38,158 --> 00:43:40,035 ♪Front, back, side to side ♪ 904 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:42,955 [Pimp C] We roll to all that music before we put it out there. 905 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,624 Hey, we just trying to bang their trunks loose. 906 00:43:46,625 --> 00:43:48,961 Know what I'm saying? Keep it positive. 907 00:43:52,548 --> 00:43:55,884 I want the hip-hop community, the world at large, to know that 908 00:43:56,468 --> 00:43:59,847 we should never forget, um... 909 00:44:02,224 --> 00:44:03,475 Um... 910 00:44:06,395 --> 00:44:08,689 I'm sorry. I just caught a moment thinking about C, man. 911 00:44:08,772 --> 00:44:10,774 [Shad] It's all good, man. Take your time. 912 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:15,946 That dude's supposed to be here. 913 00:44:18,615 --> 00:44:19,575 The music was him. 914 00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:21,201 There's no other way to put it. 915 00:44:26,915 --> 00:44:30,377 He knew we would never have what other people had. 916 00:44:30,544 --> 00:44:31,962 All we had was our music. 917 00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:34,882 He gave his whole fucking life, everything, 918 00:44:35,215 --> 00:44:36,508 so that we could look good. 919 00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:38,552 That's what that shit was about. 920 00:44:39,678 --> 00:44:41,263 That's why we went as far as we did, 921 00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:43,891 why people love it as much as they do. 922 00:44:45,726 --> 00:44:47,144 UGK the group was us, 923 00:44:47,227 --> 00:44:49,229 but UGK the music was him. 924 00:44:49,354 --> 00:44:52,316 ♪Got front and back And side to side ♪ 925 00:44:52,482 --> 00:44:53,775 ♪Got front and back ♪ 926 00:44:53,942 --> 00:44:57,029 [DJ DMD] We still loved and revered what Geto Boys and Rap-A-Lot, 927 00:44:57,112 --> 00:44:59,072 and those production teams had done, 928 00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:02,659 but Chad was doing something that was going to change everything. 929 00:45:03,201 --> 00:45:04,328 And from that moment on, 930 00:45:04,411 --> 00:45:07,956 slowed down, gospel flavor, soulful, 931 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,627 that became the sound of Southern rap. 932 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:14,671 ♪Never let ho ass niggas ride ♪ 933 00:45:14,755 --> 00:45:17,299 ♪I got a '64 Chevy in my yard ♪ 934 00:45:17,382 --> 00:45:20,344 ♪A white drop top Pearl paint job is hard ♪ 935 00:45:20,427 --> 00:45:22,846 [Shad] As the spiritual home of black life in America, 936 00:45:22,930 --> 00:45:24,514 it was inevitable that the South 937 00:45:24,598 --> 00:45:26,600 would eventually put their stamp on hip-hop. 938 00:45:26,975 --> 00:45:30,520 From the DIY entrepreneurialism of Luke and J Prince, 939 00:45:30,604 --> 00:45:32,856 to the unabashed Southern voice and sound 940 00:45:32,940 --> 00:45:34,358 of the Geto Boys and UGK, 941 00:45:34,566 --> 00:45:36,401 the South was finally on the map, 942 00:45:36,485 --> 00:45:38,195 and finally getting respect. 943 00:45:38,737 --> 00:45:40,238 This was just the beginning, 944 00:45:40,322 --> 00:45:42,658 because the South had something to say. 85214

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