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This is, uh, Steve's admission
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to what he had done.
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Okay. Page seven.
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What I had done was eating me up
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inside. I had to talk to
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someone, so I asked my brother, Brian,
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to walk with me to the gym.
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What I really wantedwas to be alone with
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one person I knew I could trust.
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As we walked to the gym, I confided in
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him everything I had done
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and swore him to secrecy.
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That was the day I lost my little
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brother. We have not seen or spoken
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to each other in more than 30
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years.
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It's real hard to talk about. He wanted
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me to respond to that,
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and I'm not going to. I
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refuse, absolutely
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refuse to talk to
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Steve. He doesn't care
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about how I feel. It's all about him.
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What about how he made me feel, how he
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hurt me, how he he didn't put none of
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that. He lied to me for 34
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years, and he's just going to write a
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little paragraph. Just a little paragraph
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for 34 years of pain and
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people calling me a liar.
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The last thing that I'll ever do is talk
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to him again.
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Steve wanted me to keep his secret, but
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I'll tell you what, I shouldn't have.
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There's so much that I have to tell you.
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I want to share this with everybody. I
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want everybody that said that I was
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lying and that I wasn't telling the truth
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about my brother. Now it's
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all out. It's hard to talk
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about, but I'm glad I am.
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There's so much. I have so much more.
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There's just so much.
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We're living at Reese Air Force Base in
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Lubbock, TX. My
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step-dad, he was in the military. My
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mom, she has five kids, about
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five different men. And Steve was
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definitely her favorite out of all of us.
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I was a year younger than Steve. When we
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were kids, we slept in the same room,
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went to the same school. We did
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everything together. We were inseparable.
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I looked at him like he was a role model.
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I can't figure this out. Umm
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Let me take a look. He was very
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intelligent when he came to school. He
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got really good grades and everything.
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And when he helped me with my
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homework, he made me feel real good. I
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felt that, you know, he loved me.
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I admire my brother, and I wanted to be a
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lot like him. How's it going in here?
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He's getting it. Great. I think so.
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But he was born with a problem.
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Oh, this one. He was definitely wired
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different than everybody else.
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I want the world to know that
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Steve, the word I'm gonna
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use is a psycho. I look back
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on things, and there's so many things
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that he did. There's just no way he could
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love us and do what he's done.
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I did not like to get in trouble at all.
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I always did everything I could to stay
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out of trouble. But he lived to create
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trouble. I mean, this was a daily,
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literally daily basis.
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Me and Steve shared a room. I was in that
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room at the time, playing with my toys.
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And mom walks in with Steve, and
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she's just yelling at the top of her
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lungs at him. What is the
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matter with you?So I stopped
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playing. And I just sat there wondering
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what, you know, what's going on. She was
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yelling, I can't believe you did this.
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You're in so much trouble. You just wait
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till your dad gets home. What has gotten
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into you?I was confused.
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I didn't know what she was talking
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about. Once daddy got home,
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I heard my mom and dad both saying
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something about a barbershop. Took a
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rock, broke the window,
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got in there,Broke the mirrors,
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broke the glass, and just just tore the
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place apart. My
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dad was asking him questions about
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what he had done. Steve didn't say one
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single word. Is that true?
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Hey, I'm talking to you.
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Steve had no emotion. He just looked
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straight ahead. He didn't look at them
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when they were talking to him, they
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repeatedly say, Look at me. And he he
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didn't. You know he can press charges,
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right?It's like he didn't care.
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He looked like a shark. Like when a
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shark, its eyes don't move. It's just
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black and cold and calculating.
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When they left, I asked him specifically
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what happened, and he says, It's just
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something to do. Are you mad at him or
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something?Nah. Just
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bored. For a kid to...
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that age to break into a place and
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just tear it up, has
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issues.
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Steve had no respect for authority
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whatsoever. Steve was going to do what
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Steve wanted to do. And no matter
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what the repercussions of it would be,
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punishment had no effect on
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Steve.
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I can remember one time we were at Reese
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Air Force Base there in Lubbock, Texas.
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They have this youth center that's on the
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military bases for kids to go.
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This was a Saturday night, and Steve
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wanted to go to this little dance they
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were having at the youth center. And Dad
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said no, 'cause he had to get up and go
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to work early the next morning.
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But he wasn't gonna listen to nobody,
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including my father.
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And Steve gets up, gets stressed,
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and tells me, Hey,
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look out for me. I'm getting ready to go
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to this dance. But
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Dad said you can't. So?You're gonna
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get called. He told me not to say
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anything. I did ask him, I says, What if
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Dad comes in here?Exact words.
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And he says, Just don't tell himanything.
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And he opened up the window, climbed up
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the window, and went.
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Dad happened to come back in our room to
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check up on us. Steve was gone.
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And Dad's like, Where's he at?
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I didn't
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say nothing to him. Dad knew.
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And he said, let's go. I had my pajamas
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on. We drove over there. Dad told me to
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go in and get him. I was very humiliated
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to walk in there in my pajamas and no
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shoes on. I couldn't believe Dad made
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me do that. So
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we get home. I'm scared as hell because
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Dad's really mad. It has the
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belt. And starts
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spanking Steve.
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Steve. Nothing. No tears.
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Nothing. Nothing whatsoever.
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Just, he took it. And I used to
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wonder how he could be so strong. Now
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get in that bed!
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Once it's all over with between him and
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Dad, Dad tells him, Take your ass to
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bed. And
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he walks out and slams the door.
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I just turn and I look at Steve. He's
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just looking at-- just dead at
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me. And I'm just, like,
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looking away, and he's, like-- I turn
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back and look, and he's just still
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staring at me.
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He did that literally for about 30
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minutes. It scared the hell out of me.
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His eyes didn't even blink. He was just
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looking at me. I wanted to say I didn't
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do it, but I knew better than to say
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anything, 'cause it--He was
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angry.
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My parents didn't know what to do with
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Steve. They tried medication, they tried
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counseling, but things just kept getting
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worse and worse.
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These pictures bring back bad memories. I
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had to be in the seventh or eighth grade,
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and Steve was either in the eighth or
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ninth grade. He was a hell of an
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athlete at this age right here. Every
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time he touched the ball, he'd score a
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touchdown. This is where he really
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started to shine and have his name in the
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paper. And Mom, she was
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very proud of him at this age. But at
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this age is where he really changed.
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He he became very abusive.
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Didn't matter where we was at. Church,
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school, gym,
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anywhere where. There's something there.
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He tried to steal it.
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I was always there to look out for him,
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even though I didn't want to. When I look
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at the picture and I look at the eyes, I
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can feel how I used to feel.
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I can feel that right now. I
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was so scared of him at this-- at this
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age because
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he'd intimidate me.
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We moved to a Shepherd Air Force Base in
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Wichita Falls, Texas. We'd be at school.
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We'd have PE together, and he'd want to
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go back into the locker room and check
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people's clothes for money.
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And he'd, you know, say, you know, Look
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out for me. You just need to keep watch.
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As I got older, it bothered me. I tried a
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couple of times to tell him that I'm not
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gonna look out for him. Come on, man. I
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don't want to keep doing this. But let's
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just put it this way. If I didn't do
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something to help him, I'd have to I.P.
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for it dearly. He's such a wimp.
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I told him I'm not going to do it, and he
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got very angry with me.
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I turned around to walk out, and he just
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hit me in the back.
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It knocked the breath out of me. I fell
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down on the ground and couldn't even
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breathe for a minute. He hurt me.
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That's when I realized I did not have a
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choice. I'm gonna have to do what he
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asks. Now, keep an eye on that
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door. Every day, it was something with
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Steve. Every single day, Steve was out of
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control, and I was totally
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powerless to stop him from doing
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everything that he was doing.
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Not everybody saw the Munster and Steve
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like I did. I was there. I know
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what he was capable of.
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Everywhere that we ever lived, there's
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always feral cats everywhere on on a
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military base.
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Steve would take
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firecrackers, get some
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string or twine or something, and
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put it on the cat. And then he lighted it
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on fire and bow.
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Sometimes the cat would die, sometimes it
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wouldn't.
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All right, new football. Go, go, go. One
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time, it was Christmas. We opened our
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gift set about 5:00 a.m., and,
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you know, we had a football.
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We went outside, just me and Steve,
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throwing the footballs to each other, and
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the cat just walks up to be petted.
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And he just picks it up and just
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breaks its neck like it's nothing and
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throws it down.
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He totally caught me off guard with it. I
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was thinking, My God, he just killed that
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cat. And it was just a kitten.
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SteveWhen he did it, he had no
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conscience. That's the part I didn't
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understand about him, no conscience.
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When I looked at his eyes, there was--
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there was emptiness. He didn't say
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nothing to me about it.
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He went through the day like as if
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nothing had happened. Oh, man, Paul.
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I did tell Mom, but I didn't say that
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Steve picked it up and broke its neck. I
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just said, there's a dead cat out there.
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My parents were in there cooking
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Christmas dinner, and I just--
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everybody was happy. Everybody was
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playing with their toys, and I just
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didn't want-- it would have caused a
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really big commotion.
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That wasn't the only time that he killed
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the cat. He'd take a BB gun,
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put his foot on the cat to hold it down,
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and put the BB gun to the cat's
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head and pull the trigger. I'd be
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like, Don't, Steve, don't. Don't.
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He wouldn't say nothing. He'd just do it.
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He wanted me to watch to show me that he
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has no problem going to that next level.
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It really bothered me. It got to me
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really, really bad. All right.
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I'll go inside. I was thinking,
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if he has the nerve and the
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guts to do something like that,
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I just, you know, worried about
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myself, and... my
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siblings.
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Steve enjoyed hurting people. Do you
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mind if I tell you a story?No,
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sir. There was one time we had just got
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through with football practice, and this
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kid was in his wheelchair,
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and he wasGoing across the
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basketball court.
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Oh, this. And
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there's this machine that shoots balls.
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It can shoot them up to 70 miles per
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hour. And Steve took these
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tennis balls and stuck them in the
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machine. I was thinking to myself, is
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he really just going to shoot him with
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that?And he did.
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Steve shot one of them at it and hit him
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in the chest, and he just flipped. out of
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the wheelchair, and he kept shooting
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them. And the guy was just banging,
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Please stop, Steve, please. Come on, no
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more. What is?And he just
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kept, Pow, pow, pow. Hitting
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him. He didn't care. He just was
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doing it to make everybody laugh. He
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was feeding off the laughter. Okay.
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He had a real big smile on his face, and
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he went over there and pulled up the
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boy's shirt to see all the bruises.
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He enjoys humiliating and hurting this--
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the kid. Let's get out of here.
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The school, the principals, and all of
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them, they knew. They knew a lot about a
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lot of the things that were happening
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because the kids would go tell them.
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But, uh, Steve was a really
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good athlete, and he got away with
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a lot of things because of that fact. You
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all right, man?There's a big game coming
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up. They needed him to be on the field.
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He was the big man on campus, but he
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didn't have no friends, per se.
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People were afraid of him, and the older
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he got, the worse he got.
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Steve would target girls that were loners
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that kept to themselves. He'd
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doReally bad things to him. I mean, we're
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talking 12-year-old girls.
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We had an open campus during lunchtime,
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and there's this girl that was in my
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grade. She was a loner. She kept
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to herself. We're sitting
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there eating lunch, and
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he noticed this
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girl that was by herself. Hey,
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stay here. Tell her if anybody's coming.
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Where are you going?And that's when he
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told me. He said, I'm gonna go get her.
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I'm watching. I'm the lookout.
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Steve walked up to her, grabbed her. He
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takes her behind the curtain. I was very
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naive at the time, and I didn't
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understand what was going on. The
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girl would come from behind the curtains
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crying and take off running.
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He did that with every girl that he ever
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took back there. He forced himself on
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them. I felt so sorry
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for the girls. I wanted to reach out to
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the girls and say something, but I
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couldn't. I was afraid.
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But if I would have said something,
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maybe they would have punished him. I
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just felt like if I would have said
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something, things would have been a lot
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different.
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We moved to Aviano Air Force Base in
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Italy. Each place that we lived at,
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it didn't last one week when we were
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there before he was in some kind of big
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trouble. He grabbed the woman's breast
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and the woman, of course, went to the
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police. And bear in mind,
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this was our first week in Italy.
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When the police came to pick Steve
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up, to take him in, I was in the room.
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And I heard everything. They told my
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parents what had happened.
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They need to take him in and, I guess,
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book him or whatever they're going to do.
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And Steve was there, and he didn't say
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nothing. He was just being his normal
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self, just looking off into space.
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I saw Steve get put in handcuffs. I saw
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Steve get taken down to a police car.
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But the trouble that he got into didn't
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last long. It went away real
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quick because of sports.
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Football season was starting, and they'd
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just sweep it under the rug.
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When we were in Italy, that's when he
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really started to lose his mind.
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There was a girl that was in my class.
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She was a very, very nice girl.
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You're home. What
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happened?It's fine. They dropped the
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charges. The girl's mother got in
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contact with my mother after we had left
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Italy, and the mother
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told my mom that her daughter
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committed suicide because of what
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Steve was doing to her. Oh, my God, I
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was I was in shock, but he didn't care.
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I couldn't believe it. I was like, God,
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how much more can thiscan he do?
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Once we left Aviano to come to Travis Air
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Force Space here, that violence in him
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came out. It was a Friday
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night. We had a football game. We was
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playing. Steve had a real good game.
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Yo, man. can't believe how good you were
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in that game. Steve comes
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up to me, and he says, Look.
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Check this out.
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Look at that guy talking to my girl.
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Steve had this little girlfriend that was
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at the football game, and she was
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standing up at this fence talking to this
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dude. Steve put on his helmet,
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strapped it up real tight, and said,
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Watch this. took off running full speed
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and just put his head down. The guy
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didn't have no clue what was about to
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happen to him. He turned around right at
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the last second.
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People started screaming. He really,
437
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really hit that guy hard. Helmet
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right into the guy's forehead. The
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guy fell down and started rolling,
440
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holding his head, and blood was just
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Sheriff's deputies ran over there. One of
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them grabbed Steve. Steve grabbed him,
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threw him down. The other one grabbed him
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and couldn't hold on to him. Steve got
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back on top of that guy, and it took
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about five or six of us to get Steve off
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that guy. I've never
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seen Steve ever, ever like that before.
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He was so, so upset. He could have
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really killed that guy. And all he was
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doing was talking to his girlfriend.
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Everybody saw it. Think he got in trouble?
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Nope. He didn't.
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The sheriffs didn't press charges or
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nothing. The school didn't want to hold
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Steve accountable for anything that he
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did because he was a good football
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player. I asked him, I said, are you
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crazy?Man, why'd you throw that cop
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down?He's like, he's
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in my way. He's just,
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no, no, expressing nothing.
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That's when I knew that he has it in him
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to really do some damage to somebody
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and take their life.
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I had a job. I had access to money.
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Steve, he didn't. And the
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only way he could get it was to steal it.
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AndAs time went on, things, it just got
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bigger and bigger and bigger, and the
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stealing just got worse.
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And one night, we walked up to the
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school. He said, I got something special
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to show you.
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He pulls out this huge crowbar.
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He took the crowbar and broke a
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window out.
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I was scared out of my mind. I thought
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when he broke the window, I thought
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somebody would definitely have heard
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that. What are you doing?
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He went in there, got the safe, this big
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safe. He's struggling with it. So I
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helped him get it out. And I'm
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like, where'd you get this from?He said,
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the principal's office. In a car.
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Put it down. He tries to open it,
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bust it open. It had over $2000 in it.
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And he hands me about 100 bucks, and
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he keeps-- he keeps all the rest. And
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Steve started stealing bigger things,
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like a motorcycle, money from
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our neighbors. 90% of the
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time, he never got caught because I
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was looking out for him. The reason
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that I went along with Steve is because I
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was scared. I felt that I had to
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do it or there'd be repercussions for it.
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Obsession for money for Steve meant that
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he'd get it any way he could.
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I know he was really desperate, but I
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didn't think he was desperate enough to
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kill. When
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Steve went off to college, I thought
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for sure he'd stop. He's gonna
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concentrate on sports and do well.
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I just knew that he'd stop, and
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he didn't.
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Steve was actively being recruited by
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bigger schools other than Chico State.
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I don't understand why you even want to
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go there. But he chose Chico
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because Chico in Playboy Magazine was the
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number one party school. Regardless, I
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have to get an apartment.
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And he was trying to tell my parents that
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he didn't want to stay on campus, that he
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wanted to stay off campus, and that he
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needed X amount of dollars for this to
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happen. Do what you want to do, but we're
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not paying rent for you. And
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they said no, you got a free
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ride to school. Why don't you stay on the
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campus so you don't have to pay?And
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that's not something that he wanted to
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do. That's where I came into the picture.
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I had a job. I had a check, steady check
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coming in. How about you?Want
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to help me out?Sure. How much you need?
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And I helped him. That's the worst thing
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I could have ever done. I shouldn't have
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done it. That's when
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it all went to hell.
534
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Okay, so, Steve came
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home for New Year's. It was right around
536
00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:43,930
that time of break. And, uh, me
537
00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:46,650
and him went to a gym one night. You're
538
00:27:46,650 --> 00:27:48,890
all right. You've been quiet all day. We
539
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:51,450
were walking home, he told me,
540
00:27:52,330 --> 00:27:54,410
I have, uh, something to tell you.
541
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,480
It's something that I did, and you can't
542
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,160
tell nobody. Oh, it says Tweet us.
543
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,160
Got it?Yeah, of course, man.
544
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,960
And I'm like, okay. I'm thinking, you
545
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,520
know, he done broke into something. You
546
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840
know, that's what I'm thinking. And he's
547
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,880
like, uh, I really messed up. And I was
548
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240
like, what do you mean?It's like,
549
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,080
I, uh..
550
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760
I took two people's lives.
551
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200
I killed some people. I'm
552
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
thinking he's joking. I
553
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,960
asked him who were the people that he
554
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040
murdered, and he said the people that
555
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,680
hired me to work at their house, the
556
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,360
motor lawn.
557
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000
He got behind on payments,
558
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,080
on rent. He had a bunch of hot checks out
559
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880
there. The school's, uh..
560
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Employment department found him
561
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,240
a good job cutting grass. They lived in a
562
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840
prominent neighborhood. That's why he
563
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,280
targeted them. Then he said,
564
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
I needed money. And the
565
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320
only thing I could think of was to go rob
566
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,640
them.
567
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280
He starts telling me in detail what he
568
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,440
did.
569
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
He told me, The lady answered the door.
570
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
He rushed in. Got her down on the ground
571
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040
and she was screaming. Her husband heard
572
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360
he was in a wheelchair. He comes in
573
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
there. Steve takes a fire
574
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,240
extinguisher, hits him upside the head a
575
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120
bunch of times, put a
576
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000
pillowcase over his head and tied him up.
577
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000
He had Mrs. Campella
578
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
write a check. He said it took her like
579
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
three times to get it right because she
580
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,120
was so scared. Her hands were shaking.
581
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080
He told me that he stabbed the
582
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960
man first so many times. He
583
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,480
said the man wouldn't die. He just kept
584
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720
making sounds. He
585
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,520
just wouldn't die.
586
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,000
His capella was in a different room.
587
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,720
He stabbed her so hard that he stood on
588
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
the knife. I was just listening.
589
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,040
He was just telling me everything.
590
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,760
I feel my heart rate
591
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480
going up. My mind
592
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080
is going real fast. I didn't know if he
593
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800
was being serious or not. I
594
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840
couldn't tell. And
595
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,560
he kept asking me, Do you think I'm gonna
596
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,680
get caught?Do you think the cops will
597
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560
figure it out?He said, I tried to cover
598
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
all my tracks. In
599
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160
order to try to throw the people off, he
600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
wrote on the... mirrors. This is just the
601
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200
beginning with her lipstick.
602
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520
And he pushed the skirt up to make it
603
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160
look like there was a
604
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,000
sexual assault or something like that.
605
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120
I felt sick to my stomach. And there
606
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,360
was a long pause.
607
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,280
That's when he started saying, I'm just
608
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160
joking. I'm just joking. None of that
609
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080
really happened. Relax, man.
610
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,520
I'm just kidding. Real funny.
611
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,040
But he never joked like that with me.
612
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Never. So I didn't-- I didn't know.
613
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520
We kept walking, and he tried to
614
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480
change the subject on something else. I
615
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,560
didn't know what to believe.
616
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440
That night, I laid down to go to bed. I
617
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120
was trying to convince myself he's just
618
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,560
joking.
619
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,200
I didn't know. I
620
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160
didn't know. I didn't know whether to
621
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,960
believe him or not. I
622
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,240
just didn't know.
623
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
We woke up early
624
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
on that, uh, Saturday morning. My mom
625
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200
came into our room with the newspaper,
626
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,320
and she says, Hey, Steve, some people got
627
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280
killed up at your college. Did you hear
628
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
about this?Yeah. She started reading the
629
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,880
article. Everything that his
630
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,480
mom read in that paper
631
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560
is what he told me. This is
632
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,680
right by you, isn't it?Yeah.
633
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320
That's crazy. That's what I was like, Oh,
634
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,880
my God. Something did
635
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520
happen. I turn and I look at him.
636
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
He makes eye contact with me. He shakes
637
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,160
his head no.
638
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Him shaking his head no to me was to
639
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560
let me know, don't say anything, please.
640
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160
After she walks out, that's what I pulled
641
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320
him off to the side. You got to tell him
642
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,800
what you told me. I begged him, You need
643
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,200
to tell mom and dad what's going on. He
644
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,400
said, No,
645
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760
don't you say anything to them about it.
646
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,400
I still was in disbelief. Steve,
647
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280
just keep your mouth shut. And I was
648
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,200
like, Did you really do this?
649
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
That's when he said no again. I didn't
650
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400
have anything to do with it.
651
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680
My heart, I just didn't want to believe
652
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960
it. That's all. I I just couldn't.
653
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,840
He couldn't have done this. He couldn't
654
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720
have. There's no way. He couldn't have
655
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,440
killed them people.
656
00:33:57,210 --> 00:33:59,410
The church that we go to, they call our
657
00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:01,970
sinners forward at the end of the service
658
00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:05,250
for them to be prayed for. Me and
659
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,530
Steve used to laugh at people that used
660
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:10,290
to walk up there. I now ask that
661
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:12,770
those of us amongst us guilty of sin
662
00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:16,770
come forward. But Steve
663
00:34:16,770 --> 00:34:18,450
walked up there that that Sunday,
664
00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:20,770
just crying.
665
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440
He never cries. Steve
666
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,920
never cried. That's the very first time
667
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,161
I've ever seen him cry.
668
00:34:33,521 --> 00:34:36,001
I'm sitting there in shock. I couldn't
669
00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:38,721
believe it. I just couldn't believe it. I
670
00:34:38,721 --> 00:34:41,521
could not believe it. It
671
00:34:41,521 --> 00:34:41,921
all...
672
00:34:44,881 --> 00:34:47,601
hit me right then. I was just like, Oh,
673
00:34:47,601 --> 00:34:50,001
my God, Steve really did this.
674
00:34:50,961 --> 00:34:52,761
I'm going to ask you to pray for these
675
00:34:52,761 --> 00:34:53,361
sinners.
676
00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:57,921
That's what I knew, without a doubt.
677
00:35:05,961 --> 00:35:07,361
The next day, he went back to school.
678
00:35:08,321 --> 00:35:11,201
Before he left, he gave me a hug, and he
679
00:35:11,201 --> 00:35:14,041
made it seem like there was nothing to
680
00:35:14,041 --> 00:35:16,881
worry about. After school, I
681
00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:19,241
went to play video games at my sister's
682
00:35:19,241 --> 00:35:21,321
boyfriend's. While I
683
00:35:22,321 --> 00:35:24,241
was playing video games, I heard the
684
00:35:24,241 --> 00:35:27,201
phone ring. And he picked
685
00:35:27,201 --> 00:35:30,081
it up. Hello?And he's like, ho,
686
00:35:30,081 --> 00:35:32,401
ho, ho. Just calm down, calm down. He's
687
00:35:32,401 --> 00:35:33,201
like, your mom. Mom?
688
00:35:35,521 --> 00:35:37,601
I get on the phone with Mom. She's in
689
00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:40,561
panic. Like, get home. Get home now.
690
00:35:41,721 --> 00:35:43,441
And I'm like, what's going on?And she's
691
00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:45,281
like, just come. I need you here right
692
00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:47,361
now. She says, please.
693
00:35:50,641 --> 00:35:53,041
I just put the phone down, and I ran.
694
00:35:54,841 --> 00:35:57,041
It was about a good mile to the house,
695
00:35:57,041 --> 00:35:59,841
and I ran that mile so fast. I
696
00:35:59,841 --> 00:36:02,321
had no clue what was going on.
697
00:36:02,801 --> 00:36:05,361
Once I get around this big curve, I see
698
00:36:05,361 --> 00:36:07,361
all these cop cars at my house.
699
00:36:09,281 --> 00:36:11,841
And then I see my mom.
700
00:36:12,001 --> 00:36:12,801
She's on the ground.
701
00:36:17,841 --> 00:36:19,841
I wanted to go down and help my mom.
702
00:36:20,921 --> 00:36:22,881
I grabbed her by her hand, and I says,
703
00:36:23,201 --> 00:36:25,881
Mom, are you okay?And she she couldn't
704
00:36:25,881 --> 00:36:27,281
talk. She just shook her head.
705
00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,001
She's having a heart attack. They take
706
00:36:32,001 --> 00:36:34,721
her. Get her in an ambulance. A
707
00:36:34,721 --> 00:36:37,041
cop pulls me to the side. He told me that
708
00:36:37,041 --> 00:36:38,801
my brother's in jail for murder.
709
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:46,121
The next day, the
710
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:47,201
paper gets delivered.
711
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:51,041
And it's got a picture of him in
712
00:36:51,041 --> 00:36:52,801
handcuffs with a big-ass smile on his
713
00:36:52,801 --> 00:36:53,281
face.
714
00:36:55,681 --> 00:36:57,281
Knowing that Steve was guilty...
715
00:37:00,961 --> 00:37:03,681
just hurt my heart. Just, it hurt so
716
00:37:03,681 --> 00:37:03,961
bad.
717
00:37:06,881 --> 00:37:07,921
I hate this picture.
718
00:37:10,401 --> 00:37:12,041
This picture brought so much pain and
719
00:37:12,041 --> 00:37:14,961
hurt. It makes me so, so
720
00:37:14,961 --> 00:37:17,601
mad. I can't believe that he's smiling
721
00:37:17,601 --> 00:37:19,761
after what he's done. This is how he used
722
00:37:19,761 --> 00:37:21,921
to look when he did had a good play on
723
00:37:21,961 --> 00:37:24,761
the football field. He's a very
724
00:37:24,761 --> 00:37:27,681
evil man, and this picture shows
725
00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:30,561
how evil he really is. He killed two
726
00:37:30,561 --> 00:37:32,721
people, and he's walking out with a
727
00:37:32,721 --> 00:37:35,121
big-ass smile on his face as if though
728
00:37:35,121 --> 00:37:36,081
he's done nothing.
729
00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:51,441
When I first walked up to the jail, his
730
00:37:51,521 --> 00:37:54,401
facial expressionwas like nothing that
731
00:37:54,401 --> 00:37:57,121
I've really never seen before. He looked
732
00:37:57,121 --> 00:37:57,521
scared.
733
00:38:00,401 --> 00:38:03,121
I pick up the phone, and before he
734
00:38:03,121 --> 00:38:05,041
gets on the phone to talk to me, he looks
735
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:06,881
at me and he just shakes his head, No,
736
00:38:07,841 --> 00:38:09,521
like that. He didn't want me to say
737
00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,761
nothing. He wanted me to be quiet about
738
00:38:11,921 --> 00:38:14,881
everything that he had told me. He was
739
00:38:14,961 --> 00:38:17,761
telling people that he was innocent. We
740
00:38:17,761 --> 00:38:19,681
started talking about regular things. He
741
00:38:19,681 --> 00:38:21,961
was asking me about school. I didn't know
742
00:38:21,961 --> 00:38:23,521
what to say. I just kept looking at him,
743
00:38:23,561 --> 00:38:25,281
and he just kept shaking his head. No.
744
00:38:26,161 --> 00:38:27,201
Don't. No.
745
00:38:57,881 --> 00:39:00,801
My guy. It's a hard picture to look
746
00:39:00,801 --> 00:39:03,761
at. She's a very pretty lady. And she
747
00:39:03,761 --> 00:39:05,201
lost her life to my brother.
748
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:08,801
He's a very distinguished-looking man. He
749
00:39:08,801 --> 00:39:11,241
was a doctor. He delivered so many
750
00:39:11,241 --> 00:39:13,201
babies, helped so many people. They
751
00:39:13,921 --> 00:39:15,401
looked so happy together. Oh,
752
00:39:17,601 --> 00:39:19,921
my God. Steve is a--
753
00:39:21,081 --> 00:39:23,601
he's-- he's a piece of
754
00:39:23,601 --> 00:39:26,241
shit. How could he do this to these
755
00:39:26,241 --> 00:39:28,881
people?Over $3,000, he didn't
756
00:39:30,561 --> 00:39:32,041
have to kill these people for that.
757
00:39:34,321 --> 00:39:36,441
I can't help but feel guilt for what my
758
00:39:36,441 --> 00:39:38,561
brother did to these people. I'm so
759
00:39:38,561 --> 00:39:41,201
sorry, so, so sorry for what my brother
760
00:39:41,201 --> 00:39:43,681
has done to to you and your family.
761
00:39:44,321 --> 00:39:45,241
I'm so sorry.
762
00:39:57,671 --> 00:40:00,351
When I found out, in my mind, I'mthinking,
763
00:40:02,831 --> 00:40:04,431
man, what a relief.
764
00:40:05,591 --> 00:40:06,991
That's what I was saying to myself.
765
00:40:09,681 --> 00:40:10,881
I think he would have been a serial
766
00:40:10,881 --> 00:40:13,761
killer, to be quite honest with you. If
767
00:40:13,921 --> 00:40:16,801
he could do that, what's to say that he
768
00:40:16,801 --> 00:40:19,681
wouldn't just... kill
769
00:40:19,681 --> 00:40:20,561
anybody else?
770
00:40:22,881 --> 00:40:24,561
He deserved to be put to death for
771
00:40:24,561 --> 00:40:25,481
killing them people.
772
00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:42,161
He pleads guilty and
773
00:40:42,401 --> 00:40:44,881
sends the victims a letter saying
774
00:40:45,361 --> 00:40:47,841
everything that he did. I kept reading,
775
00:40:47,841 --> 00:40:49,161
kept reading, and I'm like,
776
00:40:50,561 --> 00:40:53,441
Wow, he said it. He
777
00:40:53,521 --> 00:40:54,561
said that he'd done it.
778
00:40:57,041 --> 00:40:59,241
And when I read all that, I got so
779
00:40:59,241 --> 00:41:01,921
emotional. I I got up and just
780
00:41:01,921 --> 00:41:04,801
started walking and, you know, just
781
00:41:04,801 --> 00:41:07,201
thinking to myself, he he told the truth,
782
00:41:07,201 --> 00:41:10,081
he finally told the truth. I can't
783
00:41:10,081 --> 00:41:12,881
believe it. 34 years
784
00:41:12,961 --> 00:41:15,321
it took him to tell the truth, but the
785
00:41:15,321 --> 00:41:16,681
only reason Steve told the truth was to
786
00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:19,361
save his butt from the death penalty.
787
00:41:21,681 --> 00:41:23,041
To the Kiapella family,
788
00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,441
I can't imagine the enormous amount of
789
00:41:28,561 --> 00:41:30,601
pain I have caused your family.
790
00:41:32,721 --> 00:41:35,441
I violently murdered your parents for no
791
00:41:35,441 --> 00:41:37,841
reason other than me trying
792
00:41:38,481 --> 00:41:41,081
Not to be caught because of your mother
793
00:41:41,081 --> 00:41:43,681
and father would recognize me.
794
00:41:44,881 --> 00:41:45,921
I hate reading this.
795
00:41:48,481 --> 00:41:50,641
There's no sincerity in this at all.
796
00:41:52,321 --> 00:41:54,561
None. This This whole thing
797
00:41:55,201 --> 00:41:57,481
that I have right here in my hand, it's a
798
00:41:57,481 --> 00:42:00,241
bunch of bull. He deserves
799
00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,121
to lose his life for what he did. It was
800
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:05,121
a horrible, horrible crime that he
801
00:42:05,121 --> 00:42:07,961
committed to me. That whole
802
00:42:07,961 --> 00:42:10,201
confession was to save his own butt.
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To that end, it did work. It saved his
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life.
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When everything went down with my
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brother, nobody wanted to
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have anything to do with me. I'm a senior
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in high school. I was being recruited by
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Division II schools to play
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football, and all that went away.
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I didn't know what to do. I
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was lost. I was so lost.
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I was not wired to be a bad person. Me
814
00:42:53,641 --> 00:42:56,161
and Steve were nothing alike. When I
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started stealing and acting out, I
816
00:42:59,281 --> 00:43:01,441
was trying to prove something to myself,
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just to prove that I'm better than he
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is. One day, I
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took the crowbar and opened up
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the Coke machine. And I took the money
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out of there, and I got caught.
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My choice was to go to jail or go in the
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military. Next thing I know, I'm going to
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the Navy boot camp. That was one of the
825
00:43:23,441 --> 00:43:25,121
best things that ever happened to me
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because I learned my lesson. I went in
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the military. I got a good education. I
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made a good life for myself. But
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he ruined our family. I have no family
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no more. That That was taken away from
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me a long time ago.
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I don't have a relationship with nobody
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00:43:45,841 --> 00:43:48,801
in my family, and I think a lot of it has
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to do with what I've told them about
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00:43:51,441 --> 00:43:53,761
Steve. After After I read it in the
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paper, I called them to see what they had
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to say about it. And
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00:44:00,081 --> 00:44:01,441
when I got my mom on the phone, I was
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like, see, I told you. I told you all
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these years that he did it and
841
00:44:06,921 --> 00:44:09,761
you didn't believe me. She
842
00:44:09,761 --> 00:44:12,001
says, I don't even know you, Click.
843
00:44:14,721 --> 00:44:16,721
It's like that. She's totally cast me
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00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:19,161
out. I thought that we could have had a
845
00:44:19,161 --> 00:44:21,801
nice talk about it. Like, you know, you
846
00:44:21,801 --> 00:44:24,641
were right. He did do it. He
847
00:44:24,641 --> 00:44:27,241
admitted it. You know, I'm sorry. No.
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Nope. Sure didn't.
849
00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:34,801
It hurt me. I just couldn't-- I I
850
00:44:34,801 --> 00:44:36,561
couldn't believe that she said that to me
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00:44:36,801 --> 00:44:39,521
and then hangs up on me.
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00:44:40,561 --> 00:44:42,601
And, you know, I try to call her back and
853
00:44:42,601 --> 00:44:45,481
she doesn't answer. I've tried to call
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00:44:45,481 --> 00:44:46,921
her a couple of different times and she
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00:44:46,921 --> 00:44:49,281
won't answer. I like to tell her
856
00:44:51,361 --> 00:44:53,281
that I love her. I miss being,
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00:44:54,401 --> 00:44:56,241
things wouldn't being the same that they
858
00:44:56,241 --> 00:44:59,201
used to be. I wish that
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00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:03,121
she could
860
00:45:03,121 --> 00:45:06,001
just let some things go and we
861
00:45:06,001 --> 00:45:08,841
can move past some things and have a
862
00:45:09,441 --> 00:45:10,121
relationship.
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00:45:12,401 --> 00:45:14,961
Her getting to know her grandkids, her
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00:45:14,961 --> 00:45:16,081
great grandkids.
865
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But it'll never be the same. Never.
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00:45:20,241 --> 00:45:21,201
There's just no way.
867
00:45:24,481 --> 00:45:26,321
I can't forgive my brother. There's just
868
00:45:26,321 --> 00:45:29,201
no way. But I want to see Steve one
869
00:45:29,201 --> 00:45:31,241
last time. There's just something that I
870
00:45:31,241 --> 00:45:33,281
want to tell him and tell him that I'm
871
00:45:33,281 --> 00:45:34,561
not scared of him anymore.
872
00:45:36,561 --> 00:45:38,401
And I have something that he doesn't,
873
00:45:38,401 --> 00:45:40,961
he'll never have. I have kids, I have
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00:45:40,961 --> 00:45:43,441
grandkids, I have a beautiful family,
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00:45:45,441 --> 00:45:47,361
and there's something nobody can take
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00:45:47,361 --> 00:45:50,081
away from me. It's something that he'll
877
00:45:50,081 --> 00:45:52,881
never have, and I want to let him know
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00:45:52,881 --> 00:45:55,441
I won. I won for once.
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