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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,800 This is, uh, Steve's admission 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,920 to what he had done. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,880 Okay. Page seven. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,560 What I had done was eating me up 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,200 inside. I had to talk to 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,160 someone, so I asked my brother, Brian, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,400 to walk with me to the gym. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,520 What I really wantedwas to be alone with 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,480 one person I knew I could trust. 10 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,400 As we walked to the gym, I confided in 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,880 him everything I had done 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,280 and swore him to secrecy. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,240 That was the day I lost my little 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,000 brother. We have not seen or spoken 15 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,240 to each other in more than 30 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,200 years. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,720 It's real hard to talk about. He wanted 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,840 me to respond to that, 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,120 and I'm not going to. I 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,200 refuse, absolutely 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,000 refuse to talk to 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Steve. He doesn't care 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,920 about how I feel. It's all about him. 24 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:16,080 What about how he made me feel, how he 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,560 hurt me, how he he didn't put none of 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,280 that. He lied to me for 34 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,400 years, and he's just going to write a 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,320 little paragraph. Just a little paragraph 29 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,280 for 34 years of pain and 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,320 people calling me a liar. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,800 The last thing that I'll ever do is talk 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,520 to him again. 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Steve wanted me to keep his secret, but 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,240 I'll tell you what, I shouldn't have. 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,000 There's so much that I have to tell you. 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,640 I want to share this with everybody. I 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 want everybody that said that I was 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,520 lying and that I wasn't telling the truth 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,080 about my brother. Now it's 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,760 all out. It's hard to talk 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,360 about, but I'm glad I am. 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,160 There's so much. I have so much more. 43 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:13,600 There's just so much. 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,280 We're living at Reese Air Force Base in 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Lubbock, TX. My 46 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,240 step-dad, he was in the military. My 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,440 mom, she has five kids, about 48 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,800 five different men. And Steve was 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,880 definitely her favorite out of all of us. 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,520 I was a year younger than Steve. When we 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,240 were kids, we slept in the same room, 52 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,600 went to the same school. We did 53 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,960 everything together. We were inseparable. 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,360 I looked at him like he was a role model. 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,880 I can't figure this out. Umm 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Let me take a look. He was very 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,960 intelligent when he came to school. He 58 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,600 got really good grades and everything. 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 And when he helped me with my 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,640 homework, he made me feel real good. I 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,520 felt that, you know, he loved me. 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,400 I admire my brother, and I wanted to be a 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,000 lot like him. How's it going in here? 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,200 He's getting it. Great. I think so. 65 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,240 But he was born with a problem. 66 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Oh, this one. He was definitely wired 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,280 different than everybody else. 68 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,800 I want the world to know that 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Steve, the word I'm gonna 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 use is a psycho. I look back 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,760 on things, and there's so many things 72 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 that he did. There's just no way he could 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,360 love us and do what he's done. 74 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,440 I did not like to get in trouble at all. 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 I always did everything I could to stay 76 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 out of trouble. But he lived to create 77 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,480 trouble. I mean, this was a daily, 78 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,560 literally daily basis. 79 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Me and Steve shared a room. I was in that 80 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,240 room at the time, playing with my toys. 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,120 And mom walks in with Steve, and 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,360 she's just yelling at the top of her 83 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 lungs at him. What is the 84 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,640 matter with you?So I stopped 85 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,160 playing. And I just sat there wondering 86 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,800 what, you know, what's going on. She was 87 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,760 yelling, I can't believe you did this. 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,600 You're in so much trouble. You just wait 89 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,600 till your dad gets home. What has gotten 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,480 into you?I was confused. 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,480 I didn't know what she was talking 92 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 about. Once daddy got home, 93 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:26,040 I heard my mom and dad both saying 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,880 something about a barbershop. Took a 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,840 rock, broke the window, 96 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,280 got in there,Broke the mirrors, 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,880 broke the glass, and just just tore the 98 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,640 place apart. My 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,600 dad was asking him questions about 100 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,800 what he had done. Steve didn't say one 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,800 single word. Is that true? 102 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,840 Hey, I'm talking to you. 103 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Steve had no emotion. He just looked 104 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,640 straight ahead. He didn't look at them 105 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,720 when they were talking to him, they 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 repeatedly say, Look at me. And he he 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,800 didn't. You know he can press charges, 108 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,120 right?It's like he didn't care. 109 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,320 He looked like a shark. Like when a 110 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,240 shark, its eyes don't move. It's just 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 black and cold and calculating. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 When they left, I asked him specifically 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,120 what happened, and he says, It's just 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,920 something to do. Are you mad at him or 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,600 something?Nah. Just 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,760 bored. For a kid to... 117 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,600 that age to break into a place and 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,800 just tear it up, has 119 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,360 issues. 120 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:50,310 Steve had no respect for authority 121 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:53,070 whatsoever. Steve was going to do what 122 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:55,750 Steve wanted to do. And no matter 123 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:58,310 what the repercussions of it would be, 124 00:06:58,390 --> 00:07:01,350 punishment had no effect on 125 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:01,830 Steve. 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,920 I can remember one time we were at Reese 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Air Force Base there in Lubbock, Texas. 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,960 They have this youth center that's on the 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,040 military bases for kids to go. 130 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,240 This was a Saturday night, and Steve 131 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,600 wanted to go to this little dance they 132 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 were having at the youth center. And Dad 133 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,600 said no, 'cause he had to get up and go 134 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,520 to work early the next morning. 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,280 But he wasn't gonna listen to nobody, 136 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,240 including my father. 137 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,840 And Steve gets up, gets stressed, 138 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,880 and tells me, Hey, 139 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,120 look out for me. I'm getting ready to go 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,920 to this dance. But 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Dad said you can't. So?You're gonna 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,760 get called. He told me not to say 143 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,040 anything. I did ask him, I says, What if 144 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Dad comes in here?Exact words. 145 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 And he says, Just don't tell himanything. 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,560 And he opened up the window, climbed up 147 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,320 the window, and went. 148 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Dad happened to come back in our room to 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,120 check up on us. Steve was gone. 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,160 And Dad's like, Where's he at? 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,560 I didn't 152 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,160 say nothing to him. Dad knew. 153 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 And he said, let's go. I had my pajamas 154 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,400 on. We drove over there. Dad told me to 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,920 go in and get him. I was very humiliated 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,600 to walk in there in my pajamas and no 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,480 shoes on. I couldn't believe Dad made 158 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 me do that. So 159 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 we get home. I'm scared as hell because 160 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Dad's really mad. It has the 161 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 belt. And starts 162 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,880 spanking Steve. 163 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:58,240 Steve. Nothing. No tears. 164 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,280 Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. 165 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,080 Just, he took it. And I used to 166 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,520 wonder how he could be so strong. Now 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,560 get in that bed! 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Once it's all over with between him and 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Dad, Dad tells him, Take your ass to 170 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,720 bed. And 171 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 he walks out and slams the door. 172 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:26,840 I just turn and I look at Steve. He's 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,680 just looking at-- just dead at 174 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,880 me. And I'm just, like, 175 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,080 looking away, and he's, like-- I turn 176 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,520 back and look, and he's just still 177 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,280 staring at me. 178 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,640 He did that literally for about 30 179 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 minutes. It scared the hell out of me. 180 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,760 His eyes didn't even blink. He was just 181 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,520 looking at me. I wanted to say I didn't 182 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,160 do it, but I knew better than to say 183 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,600 anything, 'cause it--He was 184 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,560 angry. 185 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,960 My parents didn't know what to do with 186 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Steve. They tried medication, they tried 187 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,840 counseling, but things just kept getting 188 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,720 worse and worse. 189 00:10:25,510 --> 00:10:28,470 These pictures bring back bad memories. I 190 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:30,150 had to be in the seventh or eighth grade, 191 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:32,550 and Steve was either in the eighth or 192 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:35,040 ninth grade. He was a hell of an 193 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 athlete at this age right here. Every 194 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,560 time he touched the ball, he'd score a 195 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,040 touchdown. This is where he really 196 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040 started to shine and have his name in the 197 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,320 paper. And Mom, she was 198 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,680 very proud of him at this age. But at 199 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:52,320 this age is where he really changed. 200 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,200 He he became very abusive. 201 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Didn't matter where we was at. Church, 202 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,880 school, gym, 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,880 anywhere where. There's something there. 204 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,320 He tried to steal it. 205 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,400 I was always there to look out for him, 206 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,920 even though I didn't want to. When I look 207 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,520 at the picture and I look at the eyes, I 208 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,520 can feel how I used to feel. 209 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,560 I can feel that right now. I 210 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:23,920 was so scared of him at this-- at this 211 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,320 age because 212 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,080 he'd intimidate me. 213 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,360 We moved to a Shepherd Air Force Base in 214 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Wichita Falls, Texas. We'd be at school. 215 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 We'd have PE together, and he'd want to 216 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,800 go back into the locker room and check 217 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,560 people's clothes for money. 218 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,960 And he'd, you know, say, you know, Look 219 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,480 out for me. You just need to keep watch. 220 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,440 As I got older, it bothered me. I tried a 221 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,760 couple of times to tell him that I'm not 222 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,680 gonna look out for him. Come on, man. I 223 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,960 don't want to keep doing this. But let's 224 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,280 just put it this way. If I didn't do 225 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,880 something to help him, I'd have to I.P. 226 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,080 for it dearly. He's such a wimp. 227 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,600 I told him I'm not going to do it, and he 228 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,600 got very angry with me. 229 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,240 I turned around to walk out, and he just 230 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,360 hit me in the back. 231 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 It knocked the breath out of me. I fell 232 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,720 down on the ground and couldn't even 233 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,200 breathe for a minute. He hurt me. 234 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,520 That's when I realized I did not have a 235 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,480 choice. I'm gonna have to do what he 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,360 asks. Now, keep an eye on that 237 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,960 door. Every day, it was something with 238 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Steve. Every single day, Steve was out of 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,280 control, and I was totally 240 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 powerless to stop him from doing 241 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,320 everything that he was doing. 242 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Not everybody saw the Munster and Steve 243 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,560 like I did. I was there. I know 244 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,320 what he was capable of. 245 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Everywhere that we ever lived, there's 246 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,360 always feral cats everywhere on on a 247 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,200 military base. 248 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:21,840 Steve would take 249 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,080 firecrackers, get some 250 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,800 string or twine or something, and 251 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 put it on the cat. And then he lighted it 252 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,840 on fire and bow. 253 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Sometimes the cat would die, sometimes it 254 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,160 wouldn't. 255 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,240 All right, new football. Go, go, go. One 256 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,880 time, it was Christmas. We opened our 257 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,920 gift set about 5:00 a.m., and, 258 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,680 you know, we had a football. 259 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,080 We went outside, just me and Steve, 260 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,000 throwing the footballs to each other, and 261 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,600 the cat just walks up to be petted. 262 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,840 And he just picks it up and just 263 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,960 breaks its neck like it's nothing and 264 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,280 throws it down. 265 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,360 He totally caught me off guard with it. I 266 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,960 was thinking, My God, he just killed that 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,200 cat. And it was just a kitten. 268 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 SteveWhen he did it, he had no 269 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,920 conscience. That's the part I didn't 270 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,960 understand about him, no conscience. 271 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,720 When I looked at his eyes, there was-- 272 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,320 there was emptiness. He didn't say 273 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,240 nothing to me about it. 274 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,040 He went through the day like as if 275 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,280 nothing had happened. Oh, man, Paul. 276 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,520 I did tell Mom, but I didn't say that 277 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Steve picked it up and broke its neck. I 278 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,080 just said, there's a dead cat out there. 279 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,240 My parents were in there cooking 280 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Christmas dinner, and I just-- 281 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,360 everybody was happy. Everybody was 282 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,120 playing with their toys, and I just 283 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,040 didn't want-- it would have caused a 284 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,800 really big commotion. 285 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,680 That wasn't the only time that he killed 286 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,400 the cat. He'd take a BB gun, 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,640 put his foot on the cat to hold it down, 288 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,480 and put the BB gun to the cat's 289 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,280 head and pull the trigger. I'd be 290 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,440 like, Don't, Steve, don't. Don't. 291 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,520 He wouldn't say nothing. He'd just do it. 292 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,240 He wanted me to watch to show me that he 293 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,880 has no problem going to that next level. 294 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,600 It really bothered me. It got to me 295 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,200 really, really bad. All right. 296 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,360 I'll go inside. I was thinking, 297 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,440 if he has the nerve and the 298 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,920 guts to do something like that, 299 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,240 I just, you know, worried about 300 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 myself, and... my 301 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,680 siblings. 302 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Steve enjoyed hurting people. Do you 303 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,960 mind if I tell you a story?No, 304 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,440 sir. There was one time we had just got 305 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,320 through with football practice, and this 306 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,040 kid was in his wheelchair, 307 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,160 and he wasGoing across the 308 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,120 basketball court. 309 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,360 Oh, this. And 310 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 there's this machine that shoots balls. 311 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,840 It can shoot them up to 70 miles per 312 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,480 hour. And Steve took these 313 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 tennis balls and stuck them in the 314 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 machine. I was thinking to myself, is 315 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,960 he really just going to shoot him with 316 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,280 that?And he did. 317 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Steve shot one of them at it and hit him 318 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,000 in the chest, and he just flipped. out of 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,160 the wheelchair, and he kept shooting 320 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,800 them. And the guy was just banging, 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Please stop, Steve, please. Come on, no 322 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,400 more. What is?And he just 323 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,280 kept, Pow, pow, pow. Hitting 324 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,920 him. He didn't care. He just was 325 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,920 doing it to make everybody laugh. He 326 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,000 was feeding off the laughter. Okay. 327 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,480 He had a real big smile on his face, and 328 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,960 he went over there and pulled up the 329 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,960 boy's shirt to see all the bruises. 330 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,040 He enjoys humiliating and hurting this-- 331 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,600 the kid. Let's get out of here. 332 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,240 The school, the principals, and all of 333 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,520 them, they knew. They knew a lot about a 334 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,880 lot of the things that were happening 335 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,400 because the kids would go tell them. 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 But, uh, Steve was a really 337 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,920 good athlete, and he got away with 338 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,640 a lot of things because of that fact. You 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,520 all right, man?There's a big game coming 340 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,480 up. They needed him to be on the field. 341 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,880 He was the big man on campus, but he 342 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,880 didn't have no friends, per se. 343 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,960 People were afraid of him, and the older 344 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,320 he got, the worse he got. 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,960 Steve would target girls that were loners 346 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,640 that kept to themselves. He'd 347 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,760 doReally bad things to him. I mean, we're 348 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,280 talking 12-year-old girls. 349 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,840 We had an open campus during lunchtime, 350 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,240 and there's this girl that was in my 351 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,160 grade. She was a loner. She kept 352 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,960 to herself. We're sitting 353 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,960 there eating lunch, and 354 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 he noticed this 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,160 girl that was by herself. Hey, 356 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,080 stay here. Tell her if anybody's coming. 357 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Where are you going?And that's when he 358 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 told me. He said, I'm gonna go get her. 359 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,960 I'm watching. I'm the lookout. 360 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,880 Steve walked up to her, grabbed her. He 361 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,440 takes her behind the curtain. I was very 362 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,800 naive at the time, and I didn't 363 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,720 understand what was going on. The 364 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,720 girl would come from behind the curtains 365 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 crying and take off running. 366 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,000 He did that with every girl that he ever 367 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,520 took back there. He forced himself on 368 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,400 them. I felt so sorry 369 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,520 for the girls. I wanted to reach out to 370 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,320 the girls and say something, but I 371 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,440 couldn't. I was afraid. 372 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,480 But if I would have said something, 373 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,600 maybe they would have punished him. I 374 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,800 just felt like if I would have said 375 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,720 something, things would have been a lot 376 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,160 different. 377 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 We moved to Aviano Air Force Base in 378 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Italy. Each place that we lived at, 379 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,680 it didn't last one week when we were 380 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,560 there before he was in some kind of big 381 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,920 trouble. He grabbed the woman's breast 382 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:57,960 and the woman, of course, went to the 383 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,800 police. And bear in mind, 384 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800 this was our first week in Italy. 385 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,960 When the police came to pick Steve 386 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,840 up, to take him in, I was in the room. 387 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,440 And I heard everything. They told my 388 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,200 parents what had happened. 389 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,680 They need to take him in and, I guess, 390 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,320 book him or whatever they're going to do. 391 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,280 And Steve was there, and he didn't say 392 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,120 nothing. He was just being his normal 393 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,600 self, just looking off into space. 394 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,240 I saw Steve get put in handcuffs. I saw 395 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Steve get taken down to a police car. 396 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 But the trouble that he got into didn't 397 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,200 last long. It went away real 398 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,320 quick because of sports. 399 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,080 Football season was starting, and they'd 400 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,440 just sweep it under the rug. 401 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,760 When we were in Italy, that's when he 402 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,440 really started to lose his mind. 403 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,160 There was a girl that was in my class. 404 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,240 She was a very, very nice girl. 405 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,920 You're home. What 406 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480 happened?It's fine. They dropped the 407 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,120 charges. The girl's mother got in 408 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,840 contact with my mother after we had left 409 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Italy, and the mother 410 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600 told my mom that her daughter 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,560 committed suicide because of what 412 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Steve was doing to her. Oh, my God, I 413 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,320 was I was in shock, but he didn't care. 414 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,360 I couldn't believe it. I was like, God, 415 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 how much more can thiscan he do? 416 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,880 Once we left Aviano to come to Travis Air 417 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,640 Force Space here, that violence in him 418 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,520 came out. It was a Friday 419 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,440 night. We had a football game. We was 420 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,400 playing. Steve had a real good game. 421 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,480 Yo, man. can't believe how good you were 422 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,400 in that game. Steve comes 423 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,080 up to me, and he says, Look. 424 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,360 Check this out. 425 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,320 Look at that guy talking to my girl. 426 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,400 Steve had this little girlfriend that was 427 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,240 at the football game, and she was 428 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,560 standing up at this fence talking to this 429 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,440 dude. Steve put on his helmet, 430 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960 strapped it up real tight, and said, 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Watch this. took off running full speed 432 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080 and just put his head down. The guy 433 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,080 didn't have no clue what was about to 434 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240 happen to him. He turned around right at 435 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,200 the last second. 436 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,200 People started screaming. He really, 437 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,560 really hit that guy hard. Helmet 438 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,960 right into the guy's forehead. The 439 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,120 guy fell down and started rolling, 440 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280 holding his head, and blood was just 441 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Sheriff's deputies ran over there. One of 442 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,120 them grabbed Steve. Steve grabbed him, 443 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 threw him down. The other one grabbed him 444 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 and couldn't hold on to him. Steve got 445 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 back on top of that guy, and it took 446 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,240 about five or six of us to get Steve off 447 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040 that guy. I've never 448 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,920 seen Steve ever, ever like that before. 449 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,640 He was so, so upset. He could have 450 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440 really killed that guy. And all he was 451 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,880 doing was talking to his girlfriend. 452 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Everybody saw it. Think he got in trouble? 453 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Nope. He didn't. 454 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,160 The sheriffs didn't press charges or 455 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,160 nothing. The school didn't want to hold 456 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,640 Steve accountable for anything that he 457 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680 did because he was a good football 458 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,640 player. I asked him, I said, are you 459 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 crazy?Man, why'd you throw that cop 460 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,120 down?He's like, he's 461 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,040 in my way. He's just, 462 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,440 no, no, expressing nothing. 463 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,560 That's when I knew that he has it in him 464 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,440 to really do some damage to somebody 465 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,880 and take their life. 466 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,480 I had a job. I had access to money. 467 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,000 Steve, he didn't. And the 468 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,800 only way he could get it was to steal it. 469 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,360 AndAs time went on, things, it just got 470 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,840 bigger and bigger and bigger, and the 471 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,120 stealing just got worse. 472 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,640 And one night, we walked up to the 473 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,360 school. He said, I got something special 474 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:41,920 to show you. 475 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560 He pulls out this huge crowbar. 476 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,840 He took the crowbar and broke a 477 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,440 window out. 478 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,560 I was scared out of my mind. I thought 479 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,760 when he broke the window, I thought 480 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,200 somebody would definitely have heard 481 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,440 that. What are you doing? 482 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,440 He went in there, got the safe, this big 483 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520 safe. He's struggling with it. So I 484 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280 helped him get it out. And I'm 485 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,600 like, where'd you get this from?He said, 486 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000 the principal's office. In a car. 487 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,520 Put it down. He tries to open it, 488 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,240 bust it open. It had over $2000 in it. 489 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,400 And he hands me about 100 bucks, and 490 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,760 he keeps-- he keeps all the rest. And 491 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,880 Steve started stealing bigger things, 492 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,960 like a motorcycle, money from 493 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,400 our neighbors. 90% of the 494 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,560 time, he never got caught because I 495 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480 was looking out for him. The reason 496 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,680 that I went along with Steve is because I 497 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440 was scared. I felt that I had to 498 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,160 do it or there'd be repercussions for it. 499 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Obsession for money for Steve meant that 500 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,760 he'd get it any way he could. 501 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840 I know he was really desperate, but I 502 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,600 didn't think he was desperate enough to 503 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400 kill. When 504 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600 Steve went off to college, I thought 505 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,000 for sure he'd stop. He's gonna 506 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,640 concentrate on sports and do well. 507 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720 I just knew that he'd stop, and 508 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:17,640 he didn't. 509 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,680 Steve was actively being recruited by 510 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,480 bigger schools other than Chico State. 511 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,640 I don't understand why you even want to 512 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320 go there. But he chose Chico 513 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,960 because Chico in Playboy Magazine was the 514 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,520 number one party school. Regardless, I 515 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,480 have to get an apartment. 516 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 And he was trying to tell my parents that 517 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,360 he didn't want to stay on campus, that he 518 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:46,880 wanted to stay off campus, and that he 519 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,360 needed X amount of dollars for this to 520 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,240 happen. Do what you want to do, but we're 521 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,880 not paying rent for you. And 522 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 they said no, you got a free 523 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,680 ride to school. Why don't you stay on the 524 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,120 campus so you don't have to pay?And 525 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,480 that's not something that he wanted to 526 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 do. That's where I came into the picture. 527 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,320 I had a job. I had a check, steady check 528 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000 coming in. How about you?Want 529 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800 to help me out?Sure. How much you need? 530 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240 And I helped him. That's the worst thing 531 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,480 I could have ever done. I shouldn't have 532 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,400 done it. That's when 533 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,360 it all went to hell. 534 00:27:36,490 --> 00:27:39,210 Okay, so, Steve came 535 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:41,210 home for New Year's. It was right around 536 00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:43,930 that time of break. And, uh, me 537 00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:46,650 and him went to a gym one night. You're 538 00:27:46,650 --> 00:27:48,890 all right. You've been quiet all day. We 539 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:51,450 were walking home, he told me, 540 00:27:52,330 --> 00:27:54,410 I have, uh, something to tell you. 541 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,480 It's something that I did, and you can't 542 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,160 tell nobody. Oh, it says Tweet us. 543 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,160 Got it?Yeah, of course, man. 544 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,960 And I'm like, okay. I'm thinking, you 545 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,520 know, he done broke into something. You 546 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840 know, that's what I'm thinking. And he's 547 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,880 like, uh, I really messed up. And I was 548 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 like, what do you mean?It's like, 549 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,080 I, uh.. 550 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760 I took two people's lives. 551 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200 I killed some people. I'm 552 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960 thinking he's joking. I 553 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,960 asked him who were the people that he 554 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040 murdered, and he said the people that 555 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,680 hired me to work at their house, the 556 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,360 motor lawn. 557 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000 He got behind on payments, 558 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,080 on rent. He had a bunch of hot checks out 559 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880 there. The school's, uh.. 560 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Employment department found him 561 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,240 a good job cutting grass. They lived in a 562 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840 prominent neighborhood. That's why he 563 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,280 targeted them. Then he said, 564 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600 I needed money. And the 565 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 only thing I could think of was to go rob 566 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,640 them. 567 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,280 He starts telling me in detail what he 568 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,440 did. 569 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200 He told me, The lady answered the door. 570 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600 He rushed in. Got her down on the ground 571 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040 and she was screaming. Her husband heard 572 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360 he was in a wheelchair. He comes in 573 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080 there. Steve takes a fire 574 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,240 extinguisher, hits him upside the head a 575 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120 bunch of times, put a 576 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000 pillowcase over his head and tied him up. 577 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000 He had Mrs. Campella 578 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960 write a check. He said it took her like 579 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120 three times to get it right because she 580 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,120 was so scared. Her hands were shaking. 581 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080 He told me that he stabbed the 582 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960 man first so many times. He 583 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,480 said the man wouldn't die. He just kept 584 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720 making sounds. He 585 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,520 just wouldn't die. 586 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,000 His capella was in a different room. 587 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,720 He stabbed her so hard that he stood on 588 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560 the knife. I was just listening. 589 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,040 He was just telling me everything. 590 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,760 I feel my heart rate 591 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480 going up. My mind 592 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 is going real fast. I didn't know if he 593 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800 was being serious or not. I 594 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840 couldn't tell. And 595 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,560 he kept asking me, Do you think I'm gonna 596 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,680 get caught?Do you think the cops will 597 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560 figure it out?He said, I tried to cover 598 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280 all my tracks. In 599 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160 order to try to throw the people off, he 600 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960 wrote on the... mirrors. This is just the 601 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200 beginning with her lipstick. 602 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520 And he pushed the skirt up to make it 603 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160 look like there was a 604 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,000 sexual assault or something like that. 605 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120 I felt sick to my stomach. And there 606 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,360 was a long pause. 607 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,280 That's when he started saying, I'm just 608 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160 joking. I'm just joking. None of that 609 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080 really happened. Relax, man. 610 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,520 I'm just kidding. Real funny. 611 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,040 But he never joked like that with me. 612 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120 Never. So I didn't-- I didn't know. 613 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520 We kept walking, and he tried to 614 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480 change the subject on something else. I 615 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,560 didn't know what to believe. 616 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440 That night, I laid down to go to bed. I 617 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120 was trying to convince myself he's just 618 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,560 joking. 619 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,200 I didn't know. I 620 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 didn't know. I didn't know whether to 621 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,960 believe him or not. I 622 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,240 just didn't know. 623 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040 We woke up early 624 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080 on that, uh, Saturday morning. My mom 625 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200 came into our room with the newspaper, 626 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,320 and she says, Hey, Steve, some people got 627 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280 killed up at your college. Did you hear 628 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920 about this?Yeah. She started reading the 629 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,880 article. Everything that his 630 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,480 mom read in that paper 631 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560 is what he told me. This is 632 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,680 right by you, isn't it?Yeah. 633 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320 That's crazy. That's what I was like, Oh, 634 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,880 my God. Something did 635 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520 happen. I turn and I look at him. 636 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640 He makes eye contact with me. He shakes 637 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,160 his head no. 638 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Him shaking his head no to me was to 639 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560 let me know, don't say anything, please. 640 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160 After she walks out, that's what I pulled 641 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320 him off to the side. You got to tell him 642 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,800 what you told me. I begged him, You need 643 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,200 to tell mom and dad what's going on. He 644 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,400 said, No, 645 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760 don't you say anything to them about it. 646 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,400 I still was in disbelief. Steve, 647 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280 just keep your mouth shut. And I was 648 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,200 like, Did you really do this? 649 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 That's when he said no again. I didn't 650 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400 have anything to do with it. 651 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680 My heart, I just didn't want to believe 652 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 it. That's all. I I just couldn't. 653 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,840 He couldn't have done this. He couldn't 654 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720 have. There's no way. He couldn't have 655 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,440 killed them people. 656 00:33:57,210 --> 00:33:59,410 The church that we go to, they call our 657 00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:01,970 sinners forward at the end of the service 658 00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:05,250 for them to be prayed for. Me and 659 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,530 Steve used to laugh at people that used 660 00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:10,290 to walk up there. I now ask that 661 00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:12,770 those of us amongst us guilty of sin 662 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:16,770 come forward. But Steve 663 00:34:16,770 --> 00:34:18,450 walked up there that that Sunday, 664 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:20,770 just crying. 665 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440 He never cries. Steve 666 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,920 never cried. That's the very first time 667 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,161 I've ever seen him cry. 668 00:34:33,521 --> 00:34:36,001 I'm sitting there in shock. I couldn't 669 00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:38,721 believe it. I just couldn't believe it. I 670 00:34:38,721 --> 00:34:41,521 could not believe it. It 671 00:34:41,521 --> 00:34:41,921 all... 672 00:34:44,881 --> 00:34:47,601 hit me right then. I was just like, Oh, 673 00:34:47,601 --> 00:34:50,001 my God, Steve really did this. 674 00:34:50,961 --> 00:34:52,761 I'm going to ask you to pray for these 675 00:34:52,761 --> 00:34:53,361 sinners. 676 00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:57,921 That's what I knew, without a doubt. 677 00:35:05,961 --> 00:35:07,361 The next day, he went back to school. 678 00:35:08,321 --> 00:35:11,201 Before he left, he gave me a hug, and he 679 00:35:11,201 --> 00:35:14,041 made it seem like there was nothing to 680 00:35:14,041 --> 00:35:16,881 worry about. After school, I 681 00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:19,241 went to play video games at my sister's 682 00:35:19,241 --> 00:35:21,321 boyfriend's. While I 683 00:35:22,321 --> 00:35:24,241 was playing video games, I heard the 684 00:35:24,241 --> 00:35:27,201 phone ring. And he picked 685 00:35:27,201 --> 00:35:30,081 it up. Hello?And he's like, ho, 686 00:35:30,081 --> 00:35:32,401 ho, ho. Just calm down, calm down. He's 687 00:35:32,401 --> 00:35:33,201 like, your mom. Mom? 688 00:35:35,521 --> 00:35:37,601 I get on the phone with Mom. She's in 689 00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:40,561 panic. Like, get home. Get home now. 690 00:35:41,721 --> 00:35:43,441 And I'm like, what's going on?And she's 691 00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:45,281 like, just come. I need you here right 692 00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:47,361 now. She says, please. 693 00:35:50,641 --> 00:35:53,041 I just put the phone down, and I ran. 694 00:35:54,841 --> 00:35:57,041 It was about a good mile to the house, 695 00:35:57,041 --> 00:35:59,841 and I ran that mile so fast. I 696 00:35:59,841 --> 00:36:02,321 had no clue what was going on. 697 00:36:02,801 --> 00:36:05,361 Once I get around this big curve, I see 698 00:36:05,361 --> 00:36:07,361 all these cop cars at my house. 699 00:36:09,281 --> 00:36:11,841 And then I see my mom. 700 00:36:12,001 --> 00:36:12,801 She's on the ground. 701 00:36:17,841 --> 00:36:19,841 I wanted to go down and help my mom. 702 00:36:20,921 --> 00:36:22,881 I grabbed her by her hand, and I says, 703 00:36:23,201 --> 00:36:25,881 Mom, are you okay?And she she couldn't 704 00:36:25,881 --> 00:36:27,281 talk. She just shook her head. 705 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,001 She's having a heart attack. They take 706 00:36:32,001 --> 00:36:34,721 her. Get her in an ambulance. A 707 00:36:34,721 --> 00:36:37,041 cop pulls me to the side. He told me that 708 00:36:37,041 --> 00:36:38,801 my brother's in jail for murder. 709 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:46,121 The next day, the 710 00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:47,201 paper gets delivered. 711 00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:51,041 And it's got a picture of him in 712 00:36:51,041 --> 00:36:52,801 handcuffs with a big-ass smile on his 713 00:36:52,801 --> 00:36:53,281 face. 714 00:36:55,681 --> 00:36:57,281 Knowing that Steve was guilty... 715 00:37:00,961 --> 00:37:03,681 just hurt my heart. Just, it hurt so 716 00:37:03,681 --> 00:37:03,961 bad. 717 00:37:06,881 --> 00:37:07,921 I hate this picture. 718 00:37:10,401 --> 00:37:12,041 This picture brought so much pain and 719 00:37:12,041 --> 00:37:14,961 hurt. It makes me so, so 720 00:37:14,961 --> 00:37:17,601 mad. I can't believe that he's smiling 721 00:37:17,601 --> 00:37:19,761 after what he's done. This is how he used 722 00:37:19,761 --> 00:37:21,921 to look when he did had a good play on 723 00:37:21,961 --> 00:37:24,761 the football field. He's a very 724 00:37:24,761 --> 00:37:27,681 evil man, and this picture shows 725 00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:30,561 how evil he really is. He killed two 726 00:37:30,561 --> 00:37:32,721 people, and he's walking out with a 727 00:37:32,721 --> 00:37:35,121 big-ass smile on his face as if though 728 00:37:35,121 --> 00:37:36,081 he's done nothing. 729 00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:51,441 When I first walked up to the jail, his 730 00:37:51,521 --> 00:37:54,401 facial expressionwas like nothing that 731 00:37:54,401 --> 00:37:57,121 I've really never seen before. He looked 732 00:37:57,121 --> 00:37:57,521 scared. 733 00:38:00,401 --> 00:38:03,121 I pick up the phone, and before he 734 00:38:03,121 --> 00:38:05,041 gets on the phone to talk to me, he looks 735 00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:06,881 at me and he just shakes his head, No, 736 00:38:07,841 --> 00:38:09,521 like that. He didn't want me to say 737 00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,761 nothing. He wanted me to be quiet about 738 00:38:11,921 --> 00:38:14,881 everything that he had told me. He was 739 00:38:14,961 --> 00:38:17,761 telling people that he was innocent. We 740 00:38:17,761 --> 00:38:19,681 started talking about regular things. He 741 00:38:19,681 --> 00:38:21,961 was asking me about school. I didn't know 742 00:38:21,961 --> 00:38:23,521 what to say. I just kept looking at him, 743 00:38:23,561 --> 00:38:25,281 and he just kept shaking his head. No. 744 00:38:26,161 --> 00:38:27,201 Don't. No. 745 00:38:57,881 --> 00:39:00,801 My guy. It's a hard picture to look 746 00:39:00,801 --> 00:39:03,761 at. She's a very pretty lady. And she 747 00:39:03,761 --> 00:39:05,201 lost her life to my brother. 748 00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:08,801 He's a very distinguished-looking man. He 749 00:39:08,801 --> 00:39:11,241 was a doctor. He delivered so many 750 00:39:11,241 --> 00:39:13,201 babies, helped so many people. They 751 00:39:13,921 --> 00:39:15,401 looked so happy together. Oh, 752 00:39:17,601 --> 00:39:19,921 my God. Steve is a-- 753 00:39:21,081 --> 00:39:23,601 he's-- he's a piece of 754 00:39:23,601 --> 00:39:26,241 shit. How could he do this to these 755 00:39:26,241 --> 00:39:28,881 people?Over $3,000, he didn't 756 00:39:30,561 --> 00:39:32,041 have to kill these people for that. 757 00:39:34,321 --> 00:39:36,441 I can't help but feel guilt for what my 758 00:39:36,441 --> 00:39:38,561 brother did to these people. I'm so 759 00:39:38,561 --> 00:39:41,201 sorry, so, so sorry for what my brother 760 00:39:41,201 --> 00:39:43,681 has done to to you and your family. 761 00:39:44,321 --> 00:39:45,241 I'm so sorry. 762 00:39:57,671 --> 00:40:00,351 When I found out, in my mind, I'mthinking, 763 00:40:02,831 --> 00:40:04,431 man, what a relief. 764 00:40:05,591 --> 00:40:06,991 That's what I was saying to myself. 765 00:40:09,681 --> 00:40:10,881 I think he would have been a serial 766 00:40:10,881 --> 00:40:13,761 killer, to be quite honest with you. If 767 00:40:13,921 --> 00:40:16,801 he could do that, what's to say that he 768 00:40:16,801 --> 00:40:19,681 wouldn't just... kill 769 00:40:19,681 --> 00:40:20,561 anybody else? 770 00:40:22,881 --> 00:40:24,561 He deserved to be put to death for 771 00:40:24,561 --> 00:40:25,481 killing them people. 772 00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:42,161 He pleads guilty and 773 00:40:42,401 --> 00:40:44,881 sends the victims a letter saying 774 00:40:45,361 --> 00:40:47,841 everything that he did. I kept reading, 775 00:40:47,841 --> 00:40:49,161 kept reading, and I'm like, 776 00:40:50,561 --> 00:40:53,441 Wow, he said it. He 777 00:40:53,521 --> 00:40:54,561 said that he'd done it. 778 00:40:57,041 --> 00:40:59,241 And when I read all that, I got so 779 00:40:59,241 --> 00:41:01,921 emotional. I I got up and just 780 00:41:01,921 --> 00:41:04,801 started walking and, you know, just 781 00:41:04,801 --> 00:41:07,201 thinking to myself, he he told the truth, 782 00:41:07,201 --> 00:41:10,081 he finally told the truth. I can't 783 00:41:10,081 --> 00:41:12,881 believe it. 34 years 784 00:41:12,961 --> 00:41:15,321 it took him to tell the truth, but the 785 00:41:15,321 --> 00:41:16,681 only reason Steve told the truth was to 786 00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:19,361 save his butt from the death penalty. 787 00:41:21,681 --> 00:41:23,041 To the Kiapella family, 788 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,441 I can't imagine the enormous amount of 789 00:41:28,561 --> 00:41:30,601 pain I have caused your family. 790 00:41:32,721 --> 00:41:35,441 I violently murdered your parents for no 791 00:41:35,441 --> 00:41:37,841 reason other than me trying 792 00:41:38,481 --> 00:41:41,081 Not to be caught because of your mother 793 00:41:41,081 --> 00:41:43,681 and father would recognize me. 794 00:41:44,881 --> 00:41:45,921 I hate reading this. 795 00:41:48,481 --> 00:41:50,641 There's no sincerity in this at all. 796 00:41:52,321 --> 00:41:54,561 None. This This whole thing 797 00:41:55,201 --> 00:41:57,481 that I have right here in my hand, it's a 798 00:41:57,481 --> 00:42:00,241 bunch of bull. He deserves 799 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,121 to lose his life for what he did. It was 800 00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:05,121 a horrible, horrible crime that he 801 00:42:05,121 --> 00:42:07,961 committed to me. That whole 802 00:42:07,961 --> 00:42:10,201 confession was to save his own butt. 803 00:42:11,921 --> 00:42:13,681 To that end, it did work. It saved his 804 00:42:13,681 --> 00:42:14,001 life. 805 00:42:27,091 --> 00:42:28,411 When everything went down with my 806 00:42:28,411 --> 00:42:30,931 brother, nobody wanted to 807 00:42:31,491 --> 00:42:34,291 have anything to do with me. I'm a senior 808 00:42:34,291 --> 00:42:36,931 in high school. I was being recruited by 809 00:42:37,331 --> 00:42:39,971 Division II schools to play 810 00:42:39,971 --> 00:42:42,371 football, and all that went away. 811 00:42:44,681 --> 00:42:47,521 I didn't know what to do. I 812 00:42:47,521 --> 00:42:49,361 was lost. I was so lost. 813 00:42:50,961 --> 00:42:53,641 I was not wired to be a bad person. Me 814 00:42:53,641 --> 00:42:56,161 and Steve were nothing alike. When I 815 00:42:56,161 --> 00:42:58,401 started stealing and acting out, I 816 00:42:59,281 --> 00:43:01,441 was trying to prove something to myself, 817 00:43:01,521 --> 00:43:04,481 just to prove that I'm better than he 818 00:43:04,481 --> 00:43:07,441 is. One day, I 819 00:43:07,601 --> 00:43:10,081 took the crowbar and opened up 820 00:43:10,561 --> 00:43:13,281 the Coke machine. And I took the money 821 00:43:13,281 --> 00:43:15,401 out of there, and I got caught. 822 00:43:16,881 --> 00:43:19,041 My choice was to go to jail or go in the 823 00:43:19,041 --> 00:43:21,041 military. Next thing I know, I'm going to 824 00:43:21,041 --> 00:43:23,441 the Navy boot camp. That was one of the 825 00:43:23,441 --> 00:43:25,121 best things that ever happened to me 826 00:43:25,121 --> 00:43:27,681 because I learned my lesson. I went in 827 00:43:27,681 --> 00:43:29,761 the military. I got a good education. I 828 00:43:29,841 --> 00:43:32,721 made a good life for myself. But 829 00:43:33,281 --> 00:43:36,241 he ruined our family. I have no family 830 00:43:36,241 --> 00:43:39,081 no more. That That was taken away from 831 00:43:39,081 --> 00:43:41,441 me a long time ago. 832 00:43:42,961 --> 00:43:45,841 I don't have a relationship with nobody 833 00:43:45,841 --> 00:43:48,801 in my family, and I think a lot of it has 834 00:43:48,801 --> 00:43:51,441 to do with what I've told them about 835 00:43:51,441 --> 00:43:53,761 Steve. After After I read it in the 836 00:43:53,761 --> 00:43:56,721 paper, I called them to see what they had 837 00:43:56,721 --> 00:43:59,281 to say about it. And 838 00:44:00,081 --> 00:44:01,441 when I got my mom on the phone, I was 839 00:44:01,441 --> 00:44:04,001 like, see, I told you. I told you all 840 00:44:04,001 --> 00:44:06,921 these years that he did it and 841 00:44:06,921 --> 00:44:09,761 you didn't believe me. She 842 00:44:09,761 --> 00:44:12,001 says, I don't even know you, Click. 843 00:44:14,721 --> 00:44:16,721 It's like that. She's totally cast me 844 00:44:16,801 --> 00:44:19,161 out. I thought that we could have had a 845 00:44:19,161 --> 00:44:21,801 nice talk about it. Like, you know, you 846 00:44:21,801 --> 00:44:24,641 were right. He did do it. He 847 00:44:24,641 --> 00:44:27,241 admitted it. You know, I'm sorry. No. 848 00:44:29,121 --> 00:44:31,801 Nope. Sure didn't. 849 00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:34,801 It hurt me. I just couldn't-- I I 850 00:44:34,801 --> 00:44:36,561 couldn't believe that she said that to me 851 00:44:36,801 --> 00:44:39,521 and then hangs up on me. 852 00:44:40,561 --> 00:44:42,601 And, you know, I try to call her back and 853 00:44:42,601 --> 00:44:45,481 she doesn't answer. I've tried to call 854 00:44:45,481 --> 00:44:46,921 her a couple of different times and she 855 00:44:46,921 --> 00:44:49,281 won't answer. I like to tell her 856 00:44:51,361 --> 00:44:53,281 that I love her. I miss being, 857 00:44:54,401 --> 00:44:56,241 things wouldn't being the same that they 858 00:44:56,241 --> 00:44:59,201 used to be. I wish that 859 00:45:00,241 --> 00:45:03,121 she could 860 00:45:03,121 --> 00:45:06,001 just let some things go and we 861 00:45:06,001 --> 00:45:08,841 can move past some things and have a 862 00:45:09,441 --> 00:45:10,121 relationship. 863 00:45:12,401 --> 00:45:14,961 Her getting to know her grandkids, her 864 00:45:14,961 --> 00:45:16,081 great grandkids. 865 00:45:17,761 --> 00:45:20,201 But it'll never be the same. Never. 866 00:45:20,241 --> 00:45:21,201 There's just no way. 867 00:45:24,481 --> 00:45:26,321 I can't forgive my brother. There's just 868 00:45:26,321 --> 00:45:29,201 no way. But I want to see Steve one 869 00:45:29,201 --> 00:45:31,241 last time. There's just something that I 870 00:45:31,241 --> 00:45:33,281 want to tell him and tell him that I'm 871 00:45:33,281 --> 00:45:34,561 not scared of him anymore. 872 00:45:36,561 --> 00:45:38,401 And I have something that he doesn't, 873 00:45:38,401 --> 00:45:40,961 he'll never have. I have kids, I have 874 00:45:40,961 --> 00:45:43,441 grandkids, I have a beautiful family, 875 00:45:45,441 --> 00:45:47,361 and there's something nobody can take 876 00:45:47,361 --> 00:45:50,081 away from me. It's something that he'll 877 00:45:50,081 --> 00:45:52,881 never have, and I want to let him know 878 00:45:52,881 --> 00:45:55,441 I won. I won for once. 59870

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