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In the early
1970s, in Austin Texas,
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a young guitarist
began to make his name
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on the local blues circuit.
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Tirelessly committed
to a musical form
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many thought outdated.
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Ten years later,
that same guitarist
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became an
international phenomon.
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A player of passion, energy,
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and awe-inspiring
technical virtuosity,
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Stevie Ray Vaughan
not only brought
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the blues heritage
of his home state
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to a global audience,
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but also reinvigorated
the genre itself,
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and introduced it to a new
generation of listeners.
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Stevie just seemed
to live and breathe music
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every single minute.
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It was just his whole life.
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This was a burning fire
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that didn't have anything to
do with what people thought.
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You've witnessed some
of his live gigs,
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where you would
think, "You know,"
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"he's gonna just break the
guitar in half with his hands".
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It's genuine, it was sweet.
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It's not the kind of
intensity you think,
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"Oh, why does he have to
act like that, you know?"
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Only he could come up
with that type of emotion
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without it being an act.
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This
film not only looks
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at the formative years
of Vaughan's career,
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his influences, his
first recordings,
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and the various bands in
which he honed his craft.
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But also traces the history
of Texas blues itself
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and identifies Vaughn's place
within a larger tradition.
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It is the journey
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of both a musical form and
the single-minded musician
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who brought it back
into the spotlight.
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His guitar playing just
jumps right off the record.
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It just grabs a hold of you
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and it's just undeniable.
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What he did with the
sound was totally unique
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and nobody has come close.
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Stevie just did it because
he had his own ideas
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and he was committed
to his music.
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If he'd end up just playing
clubs all the rest of his life
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rather than sacrificing
who he was musically,
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he probably would have chosen
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playing clubs the
rest of his life.
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He knew what he wanted to do.
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Stevie brought
respect back to blues.
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He brought recognition
back to blues.
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But by making it
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a completely unique, original,
and modern sound again.
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This guy was really
a master artist.
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When
Stevie Ray Vaughan
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broke into the mainstream
in the early 1980s,
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he cut a distinctive and
contradictory figure,
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seemingly archaic
and out-of-date,
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yet also explosive and
refreshingly different.
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He was a standard bearer
for a form of music
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that had been dismissed
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as unfashionable
and unmarketable
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for over a decade,
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the blues.
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And his global success
revitalized the genre.
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Blues has always
had ups and downs,
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but it had been down
for a long, long time.
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Record deals were very
few and far between.
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Just being taken seriously
was not, not happening.
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For Stevie to make such an
impact worldwide changed that.
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All of a sudden, people were
starting to pay attention
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and it really helped
everyone from the ground up.
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Nobody else is making
this music by this stage.
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Or, nobody is making
it and selling it
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in any sizable quantities.
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He refreshes the blues.
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He makes the blues hip again.
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So here's the significance,
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both in terms of its influence
on white rock and roll,
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but also in what it
does to black music.
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Johnny Hooker in the
1980s and early 1990s
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sells more records
in that decade
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than he sold in 40 years
up until that point.
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Stevie Ray Vaughan
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has one hell of a
lot to do with that.
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Stevie Ray Vaughan
almost single-handedly
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there are other people,
there's George Thorogood,
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there's Robert Cray,
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but Stevie Ray Vaughan
is the superstar.
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He's the man who puts
blues back on the map
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and makes people want to
listen to the blues again
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and realize that there's
something worth hearing.
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Vaughan
wasn't only creating
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a resurgence of
interest in the blues,
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but in particular, he and
his band, Double Trouble,
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presented a distinctive,
region-specific strand
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of this genre.
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Born from a rich
tradition of music
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eminating from the
American territory
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in which they were
raised, Texas.
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This large state, briefly a
republic in its own right,
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had a singular history that
would itself become etched
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into the music that
emerged from it.
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Propelled by a philosophy
of rugged individualism,
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at first it was the home
of ranchers and cowboys,
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the icons of the
American frontier.
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Yet where these inhabitants
looked to cultivate the land,
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Texas would soon become
forever associated
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with the riches
found under its soil
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at the dawn of the
20th Century, oil.
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This discovery changed the state
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from a vast,
yet sparsely-populated rural province,
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into one of the largest
economies in the country.
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Yet the musical tradiiton
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that inspired Stevie Ray Vaughan
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and countless other white Texans
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sprung from the laborers
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of one of its other
key industries
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in the early 20th Century.
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In the cotton fields
of east Texas,
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and in the poor black
communities set up around them,
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the sharecroppers
developed the blues.
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It was from this marginal world,
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that the first notable
Texas bluesman emerged,
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Blind Lemon Jefferson.
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Blind Lemon Jefferson
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is the first great
male blues guitarist.
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He was born, we
think around 1893,
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the son of sharecroppers.
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By 1917, he's in Dallas,
playing the guitar
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on street corners, and
already becoming a big star.
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It's said that he was
earning $150 a week
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in tips on the street.
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Now, in 1917, that is one
hell of a lot of money.
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He starts recording
in 1926 for Paramount
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and he goes to
Chicago to record.
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Very short recording career.
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He's only recording for
four years before he dies.
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But the recording
industry is in its infancy
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in 1926 when he starts
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and prior to that,
we've had Mamie Smith
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and some of the female
blues singers really singing
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backed by what you'd
have to call a jazz band.
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Blind Lemon Jefferson
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is the first solo guitarist
playing the Blues on record.
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♪ I ain't
got no mama now
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♪ I ain't got no mama now
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♪ She told me late last night
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♪ You don't need no mama no, no
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♪ Mmm black snake
crawling in my room ♪
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He's got this kind
of haunting moaning voice,
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these fantastic songs
I can see the migrators
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kept cleaning their
Black Snake Moan.
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He's a phenomenal guitar player
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and you can hear that
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even through the hiss and
the crackle of the records,
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because the quality of the
preservation of these recordings
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is not that great
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but he's a phenomenal guitarist.
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He's playing these
single-note lead runs,
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and then these bass lines
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and these choppy rhythms
and pulls and tremolos.
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In a way, you can hear
all the techniques
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that we have come to associate
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with electric guitar
playing being essayed really
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on this rudimentary
acoustic guitar.
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Where Jefferson
provided the template
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for the Blues guitarist,
two of his protegees
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would further his style
and develop the sound
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of Texas blues beyond
its acoustic origins.
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They too, would become
hugely influential figures,
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T-Bone Walker and
Lightnin Hopkins.
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T-Bone Walker was
born in Texas in 1910,
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so he is about 17 years younger
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than Blind Lemon Jefferson.
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He hooks up with
Jefferson in the 1920s,
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becomes his eyes, leads
the blind man around,
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and of course, while
he's doing that
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learns all his guitar tricks.
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The hallmark
of Texas blues
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has always been the guitar,
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that's what defines
the Texas sound
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is the playing of the guitar.
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The way one approaches
that instrument.
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T-Bone emulated the
style of Blind Lemon.
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He does take a lot
of the patterns
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and the kind of single
string arpeggio runs
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that one hears in Blind Lemon.
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But he's applying them
to an electric guitar,
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an elecrified guitar.
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T-Bone introduced
the electric guitar
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as a lead instrument
in rhythm and blues
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T-Bone was highly sophisticated.
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T-Bone was a showman.
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He electrified the audience.
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Not only with his guitar playing
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which was incredibly virtuosic,
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but in just the way he
presented himself on stage.
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♪ Mother says
son you was born lucky
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♪ But remember you
gotta die one day
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♪ Woah, yes you was born lucky
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♪ Remember you
gotta die one day ♪
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Lightnin' Hopkins
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is another pioneering
Texas blues guitarist.
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Like T-Bone Walker,
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he hooks up with Blind Lemon
Jefferson in the 1920s.
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At this point, he's
playing an acoustic guitar
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but he too, picks up
an electric guitar
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there is some sessions that
are particularly significant
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in this context,
which he recorded
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for the New York-based
Herald label in 1954
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where he plugged in.
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I guess he took the
T-Bone Walker style
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of electric guitar
and just amped it up,
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rocked it up, a little bit more.
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So you can see all
of these things
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as different stations
of the cross, really,
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on the journey to a fully
electrified Texas blues sound.
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♪ Woah she
an evil hearted woman
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♪ Woah she won't
treat nobody right
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♪ Yeah, she an
evil hearted woman
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♪ She won't treat nobody right
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There's a further link
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to the kind of
blues rock element
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that Stevie Ray Vaughan
eventually comes to represent,
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because he gets taken up
by the rock and roll crowd.
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He's opening shows
for The Grateful Dead.
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I think at one point,
in the late 60s,
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he even records an album with
the 13th Floor Elevators,
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who were this Texas garage band.
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Again, the blues and the rock
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are coming closer together
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in the person of
Lightnin' Hopkins.
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There's a nice symmetry, really,
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because he lives on until 1982,
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which is when he
dies, and of course,
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is just when Stevie Ray
Vaughan is getting going.
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For white Texans
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in the 1940s and
the 50s however,
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awareness of the work of
Walker and Hopkins was minimal.
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Although Texas was in
part culturally distinct
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from the deep south
states to its east,
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it shared their appalling
racial politics.
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Segregation was firmly in place,
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and popularly supported
across the state.
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Yet the music of the bluesmen
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did enter the consciousness
of young white artists.
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As the melding of styles
that was rock and roll
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exploded across America,
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white Texan bands began
to incorporate the sounds
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pioneered by these black
musicians into their own work.
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One of the great
things about music in Texas,
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we didn't pay much attention
to segregation laws.
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The law said blacks and whites,
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and even browns,
Mexican Americans,
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weren't supposed to mix.
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They always did with music.
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In the fifties, for
instance in Dallas,
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the best-known
rock and roll act,
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really the first local
band of any prominence
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was called The Nightcaps,
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and they were white boys
doing rhythm and blues.
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♪ Go to
school around nine
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♪ I get in the corner
and I drink my wine
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♪ Drinkin' wine, wine, wine
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♪ Drinkin' wine, wine, wine
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♪ Drinkin' wine, wine, wine
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♪ Wine all the time
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♪ You get your girl,
and I'll get mine
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♪ Here for a while
then buy some wine
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♪ Drinkin' wine, wine, wine
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Wine, Wine,
Wine was an anthem
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for all kinds of kids
growing up in Texas.
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Certainly the song Thunderbird,
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which Stevie Vaughan
later covered,
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many people have covered,
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it was always there.
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As the next wave
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of the popular music
revolution hit the US
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in the mid-1960s,
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following the coming of
the British Invasion,
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a handful of white Texans
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were again bringing their
distinctive Blues heritage
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into the spotlight.
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This time, to both national
and international audiences.
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Yet, many of these acts,
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like the psychedelic garage
band, the 13th Floor Elevators,
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had to travel to the west
coast to make their name.
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The most prominent,
singer Janis Joplin,
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actively disassociated
herself from her home state.
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At the close of
the decade however,
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a figure emerged who
aimed to carry the torch
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sparked by Blind Lemon Jefferson
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back at the start
of the century.
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Johnny Winter, signed in
1968 to Columbia Records
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with the biggest
advance in the history
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of the recording industry
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was a white singer and guitarist
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who proudly identified
himself as a Texas bluesman.
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Winter was the guy
that started all this.
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It was Columbia signing him
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and offering him crazy
money at the time,
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that changed the rules
and changed the way
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music was being
looked at in Texas.
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♪ Yeah, I work for a
dollar could not save a lousy
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♪ Man couldn't save a dime
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♪ Ain't nobody worried and
there ain't nobody's crying ♪
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Columbia signed him
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Steve Paul made him into a star,
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basically selling black blues
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as played by an albino
white as rock and roll.
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Of course Johnny Winter
played Woodstock,
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with his band, and
it was very telling
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he had a power trio, basically,
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which really set the stage
for bands like ZZ Top,
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and later, for Stevie Ray
Vaughan and Double Trouble,
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and in his band
was a bass player
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that came out of Dumas,
Texas, up in the panhandle,
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by the name of Tommy Shannon
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and a drummer by the name
of Uncle John Turner.
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If you think
of Texas Blues
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as being dirt road
through the countryside,
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Johnny Winter paved it.
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He put the asphalt down.
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In part, what
distinguishes Texas Blues
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from, say Mississippi Blues,
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is that the black
population in Texas
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was much more dispersed
throughout the state.
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There wasn't this
heavy concentration.
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There had been in east Texas,
but when the cotton fields
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were devastated by
the boll weevil,
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people moved to the cities
of Houston and Dallas,
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to some extent to Austin.
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It was a much more
diverse community.
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Johnny Winter grew up
in the golden triangle,
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in the area around
Beaumont and Orange
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which produced Janis
Joplin and others.
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These were people
who were connected
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to a kind of swamp loose,
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and they were connected to
the Cajun and Creole sounds
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that they grew up hearing,
being so close to Louisiana.
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Johnny Winter created
a certain mythos
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about the whole idea of
Texas blues and Texas music.
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In that way, he influenced
young musicians musically
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but I think in a bigger sense
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he helped define
the marketplace,
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the branding for what the
world began to recognize
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as being Texas blues.
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Despite Winter's
swift rise to prominence,
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in the 1970s new musical
forms flourished.
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The blues, once again
returned to the margins.
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It would remain there
for more than a decade
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before another artist emerged,
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who both revitalized
the genre itself
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and re-established the brand
that Winter had developed.
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Dallas, Texas,
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it was here in 1954 that
Stevie Ray Vaughan was born.
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At first, raised along
with older brother Jimmy
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in the Cockrell Hill
area of the city
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by parents Jim and Martha.
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After numerous relocations,
the family settled
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in the district of
Oak Cliff in 1961.
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Jimmy and Stevie
Vaughan grew up in Oak Cliff,
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which in the context of
Dallas, Texas, even today
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it's south of the Trinity River.
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It's blue collar working class.
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Whenever you think of
Dallas as this new shiny,
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you know, the TV series,
the Dallas Cowboys,
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glittering buildings,
that's all north Dallas.
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That's not Oak Cliff,
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that was traditionally
the black part of town,
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and today, remains
very African American,
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Mexican American,
Mexican immigrant,
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and talk about a music history.
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Oak Cliff is where T-Bone
Walker really got his chops.
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00:20:11,144 --> 00:20:12,410
Aaron T-Bone Walker
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00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:14,412
was also known as
Oak Cliff T-Bone.
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Stevie's
family was, I think,
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00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:19,717
relatively typical in the
sense that his father,
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who they called Big Jim,
was a blue collar worker
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that traveled wherever
the jobs were.
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00:20:25,291 --> 00:20:28,359
The family was uprooted,
at least temporarily
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on occasion while he
worked particular jobs.
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Stevie's mother also
relatively typical
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in the sense that
to make ends meet,
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00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,804
she worked as an office
worker, as a secretary.
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That left some time
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for Stevie and
Jimmy at home alone.
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00:20:45,445 --> 00:20:47,178
Who knows, maybe
that contributed
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00:20:47,180 --> 00:20:49,914
to their interest
in playing guitar,
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00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:52,049
because they had to fill
their time with something.
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00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,452
The brothers'
interest in music
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00:20:54,454 --> 00:20:56,554
was more than just a
time filler however.
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00:20:56,556 --> 00:20:58,022
It soon became a passion.
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When they moved to
Oak Cliff in 1961,
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00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:03,728
first Jimmy and then Stevie
had begun playing the guitar.
396
00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:06,764
Yet the popular music of the
time was far from stimulating.
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Despite being an incendiary
force in the mid-to-late 1950s,
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by now the rebellious
fervor of rock and roll
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had died down, and the
charts were dominated
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by crooners and
doo wop ensembles.
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00:21:18,211 --> 00:21:20,511
For youngsters growing up
in the segregated world
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00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:23,114
of the south however,
the radio provided access
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00:21:23,116 --> 00:21:25,650
into a far more raw
and vital musical world
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00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:27,551
that was emanating
almost unnoticed,
405
00:21:27,553 --> 00:21:29,487
from the black
communities around them.
406
00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:31,022
These stations and shows
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00:21:31,024 --> 00:21:33,991
inspired a whole generation
of white blues musicians.
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00:21:33,993 --> 00:21:36,394
Kids in Texas, kids
growing up in Dallas,
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at night, when you had AM radio
410
00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:41,032
and you had these stations
411
00:21:41,034 --> 00:21:42,800
that were called clear
channel stations,
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00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:45,636
50,000 watt stations,
where you could hear
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00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:48,205
their signal from
all over the place,
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00:21:48,207 --> 00:21:50,975
in Dallas and in Fort
Worth where I grew up,
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00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:53,077
you could pick up
WLS in Chicago.
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00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:54,712
They had Top 40 radio.
417
00:21:54,714 --> 00:21:57,782
WLAC in Nashville,
the John R. Show
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00:21:57,784 --> 00:22:00,384
where John R.
Some pretty serious blues
419
00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:03,621
and he also sold blues music
through Randy's Record Shop.
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00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:06,957
Also, you cannot discount
the border blasters,
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00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:09,593
the Mexican radio
stations on the border,
422
00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:11,896
on the Mexican side
of the Rio Grande
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00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:15,700
that would exceed the power
limits of the United States.
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00:22:16,202 --> 00:22:20,771
From the big X XERF, XEG, XELO,
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00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:23,074
that's where I
heard Wolfman Jack
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00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:26,077
turn me onto a generation
of blues artists.
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00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:27,645
Late night on the radio,
428
00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:30,181
I could get those
powerful stations
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00:22:30,183 --> 00:22:35,152
out of Louisiana and Del
Rio, the Wolfman Jack.
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00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:40,958
When I heard blues, I had
to find out what it was.
431
00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:46,630
The music just captured
my imagination.
432
00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:49,900
I didn't even know
what to call it.
433
00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:52,436
There was a
radio station in Dallas
434
00:22:52,438 --> 00:22:56,006
called WRR, and at
10 or 11:00 at night
435
00:22:56,008 --> 00:22:58,075
Jim Lowe came on
with Kat's Karavan
436
00:22:58,077 --> 00:23:01,779
and everything was
all different then.
437
00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:04,615
Of course, I was supposed
to be in bed asleep
438
00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:06,283
and I was in bed,
but I wasn't asleep.
439
00:23:06,285 --> 00:23:08,919
It's the typical thing, you
have that radio right there,
440
00:23:08,921 --> 00:23:10,955
you've turned it up loud enough
441
00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:13,090
where you can hear it
but mom and dad don't.
442
00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:18,095
That's when Jim Lowe, he
was playing Lightin' Hopkins
443
00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:21,565
and all the accello records,
444
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:24,802
that's where I first heard
Lazy Lester, Lightnin' Slim,
445
00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:28,806
all the accelo stuff,
and all the other stuff
446
00:23:28,808 --> 00:23:32,843
that was more bluesy
and more hardcore R&B
447
00:23:32,845 --> 00:23:37,848
that was a little bit too deep
for Top 40 in the daylight.
448
00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,290
♪ I've been out west
449
00:23:47,193 --> 00:23:49,593
♪ I'm headed east
450
00:23:50,496 --> 00:23:52,997
♪ I want my baby
451
00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:56,233
♪ Back home with me
452
00:23:57,136 --> 00:24:00,237
♪ Well, she don't grab that
453
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,675
♪ Mean old train and gone
454
00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:08,078
Now we knew what
labels to look for,
455
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,914
so we'd go to our record store
456
00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:11,582
and just go through stuff,
457
00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,717
and when we saw Duke
Records, or Chess Records,
458
00:24:13,719 --> 00:24:16,253
or Accelo Records, VJ Records,
459
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:18,122
when we saw those
labels, it was like,
460
00:24:18,124 --> 00:24:19,056
"Oh, red flag."
461
00:24:19,058 --> 00:24:21,992
We discovered a lot on our own,
462
00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:26,197
with some help from Jim
Lowe and late night radio.
463
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,732
The
subterranian nature
464
00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:31,335
of this interest in blues
music shifted almost over night
465
00:24:31,337 --> 00:24:33,971
with the coming of the
British Invasion in 1964.
466
00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:36,474
♪ I am the
little red rooster
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00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:41,312
♪ Two lays and I crow for days
468
00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:43,814
As the Beatles,
The Rolling Stones,
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00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:45,516
The Yard Birds, and
many others acts
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00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:47,351
introduced a wider
American audience
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00:24:47,353 --> 00:24:49,653
to music that had previously
been marginalized,
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00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:51,856
blues was elevated
into the mainstream.
473
00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:54,091
In Oak Cliff, Texas,
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00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:56,894
Jimmy Vaughan was becoming a
serious scholar of the genre
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00:24:56,896 --> 00:24:59,330
and passing his knowledge
on to his younger brother.
476
00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:02,166
What has
inspired you throughout
477
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:04,935
who is your?
478
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:07,037
My brother,
Jimmy Vaughan.
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00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:08,539
He's the reason I got started,
480
00:25:08,541 --> 00:25:11,876
and he's also the inspiration
for a lot, lot of musicians.
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00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:17,014
Because of him, I was
able to hear B.B. King,
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00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:19,550
Freddie King, Albert Collins,
483
00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:22,686
Albert King, Lonnie Mack,
Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters,
484
00:25:22,688 --> 00:25:25,523
Alan Wolf, Kenny
Burrell, Jimmy Smith
485
00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:27,791
on and on, on and on.
486
00:25:27,793 --> 00:25:30,394
They're all very big influences.
487
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,830
Stevie was
fortunate growing up
488
00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:36,634
to have an older brother
who was bringing home music.
489
00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:39,069
He was bringing home everything
490
00:25:39,071 --> 00:25:41,939
from blues to rock and roll.
491
00:25:41,941 --> 00:25:44,408
Then also about the same time
492
00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:46,710
you've got The Beatles
coming on Ed Sullivan,
493
00:25:46,712 --> 00:25:49,113
and the whole British
Invasion music,
494
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,716
exposing Americans
to blues music.
495
00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:57,054
Certainly, Stevie got all of
those influences all at once.
496
00:25:57,757 --> 00:26:00,658
With popular music
entering its most fertile period
497
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:02,526
since the initial
wave of rock and roll,
498
00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:05,162
in the mid 60s, both
Jimmy and Stevie
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00:26:05,164 --> 00:26:06,964
joined their first
high school bands,
500
00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:08,632
The Pendulums,
and The Shantones.
501
00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:11,535
Playing cover material at
dances and talent contests.
502
00:26:11,537 --> 00:26:14,838
The Pendulums soon progressed
to a wider circuit however,
503
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,808
and in this group, Jimmy Vaughan
began to attract attention.
504
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:21,278
By 1966, he was drafted
into The Chessmen,
505
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,247
who had enjoyed
some local success,
506
00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,482
and soon the elder of
the Vaughan brothers
507
00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:26,850
was being singled out
508
00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:29,053
as one of the best guitarists
on the Dallas scene.
509
00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:30,321
In Dallas,
510
00:26:30,323 --> 00:26:32,590
there were labels
like Records,
511
00:26:32,592 --> 00:26:34,992
which had these pop acts,
512
00:26:34,994 --> 00:26:37,194
John and Robin and the In-Crowd.
513
00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:39,630
Scotty McKay, who
was really trying
514
00:26:39,632 --> 00:26:42,199
to imitate The
Yardbirds doing blues.
515
00:26:43,035 --> 00:26:45,603
The Five Americans
had national hits
516
00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:47,838
broke out of Dallas
with I See the Light.
517
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,275
One of these bands that
kind of rose to prominence
518
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:52,643
was The Chessmen.
519
00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:55,079
Now, Jimmy Vaughan joined it
520
00:26:55,081 --> 00:26:57,381
after The Chessmen were
already kind of established.
521
00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:59,817
They had had a
couple of local hits
522
00:26:59,819 --> 00:27:01,485
and when I say "hits"
there were singles
523
00:27:01,487 --> 00:27:03,954
that probably sold
5,000 copies maybe.
524
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:05,489
That would get you gigs
525
00:27:05,491 --> 00:27:08,359
at teen canteens, and
clubs like Louanns,
526
00:27:08,361 --> 00:27:09,793
and maybe if you
were lucky enough
527
00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:11,996
you could back up
someone like Jimmy Reed.
528
00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:15,232
When Jimmy Reed came and played
Louanns for the white kids,
529
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:18,002
what it did for Jimmy
is it gave him exposure.
530
00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:19,837
They were a
big deal in Dallas.
531
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,772
What's really
strange about that is
532
00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:23,474
when Jimmy joined the band
533
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:28,479
he was like 15 and
just almost overnight
534
00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,915
he became the man at 15.
535
00:27:31,917 --> 00:27:33,317
All the guitar
players are going,
536
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:34,752
"You gotta hear this kid".
537
00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:36,353
Jimmy's name got around,
538
00:27:36,355 --> 00:27:40,057
and I finally heard him in 1967.
539
00:27:40,059 --> 00:27:42,393
He got a gig with the
band The Chessmen,
540
00:27:42,395 --> 00:27:44,595
and there was a Sunday
afternoon matinee
541
00:27:44,597 --> 00:27:46,230
at this club, and I heard Jimmy.
542
00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:49,366
I was excited to hear this kid
that I'd been hearing about.
543
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:51,235
I was seven years
older than him.
544
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:52,469
When I heard him,
545
00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:54,571
even though they were
just doing covers,
546
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:58,175
I went, "Well, I see
why I had heard of him".
547
00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:02,513
I thought he was, at 17, I
thought this guy's better than -
548
00:28:02,515 --> 00:28:04,381
He is good.
549
00:28:04,383 --> 00:28:06,350
We will hear more of Jimmy.
550
00:28:07,286 --> 00:28:09,553
Most people felt that way.
551
00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:11,088
If The Chessman
552
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:12,790
offered Jimmy Vaughan exposure,
553
00:28:12,792 --> 00:28:15,559
the group provided something
else for his younger sibling.
554
00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,528
Stevie was befriended
555
00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:19,797
by their drummer and
vocalist, Doyle Bramhall,
556
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,100
who gave the 12-year-old both
encouragement and support.
557
00:28:23,102 --> 00:28:25,135
The pair would become
lifelong friends
558
00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:26,937
and occasional musical allies.
559
00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:28,839
Yet, it was through
Jimmy's record collection
560
00:28:28,841 --> 00:28:31,008
that the young guitarist
found his inspiration.
561
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:33,877
In 1967, he was
introduced to an artist
562
00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:35,646
that would prove a
significant influence
563
00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,414
on his subsequent
style and sound,
564
00:28:37,416 --> 00:28:38,849
Jimi Hendrix.
565
00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:42,152
When Stevie was just
getting started on guitar,
566
00:28:42,154 --> 00:28:46,090
Jimmy brought home a Jimi
Hendrix record, Purple Haze.
567
00:28:46,092 --> 00:28:50,694
I think this really
knocked Stevie for a loop.
568
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:17,121
♪ Purple
haze was in my brain
569
00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:21,125
♪ Lately things
don't seem the same
570
00:29:21,861 --> 00:29:24,962
♪ I'm acting funny
but I don't know why
571
00:29:25,798 --> 00:29:28,632
♪ 'Scuse me while I kiss the sky
572
00:29:31,704 --> 00:29:32,736
♪ Purple Haze
573
00:29:32,738 --> 00:29:33,937
Jimi Hendrix is probably
574
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:37,174
the single most
significant figure
575
00:29:37,176 --> 00:29:41,011
in the fusion of blues and rock.
576
00:29:42,248 --> 00:29:44,782
It's a much derided
word these days,
577
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,650
but in making it progressive
578
00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:49,219
and by that I mean the
genuine sense of the word
579
00:29:49,221 --> 00:29:54,191
of moving this music into
new, uncharted territory.
580
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,694
Technically, he's a
phenomenal guitarist.
581
00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:02,166
He's got a deep reverence
for the roots of the blues
582
00:30:02,168 --> 00:30:06,203
but he's also played R&B
with the Isley Brothers
583
00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:07,371
and so on and so forth,
584
00:30:07,373 --> 00:30:10,207
so he's got all
the bases covered.
585
00:30:32,598 --> 00:30:34,765
He's got this
fantastic technique
586
00:30:34,767 --> 00:30:39,670
coupled with this fertile
inventive imagination,
587
00:30:39,672 --> 00:30:43,040
which leads him to
experiment with sounds
588
00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:45,242
that you wouldn't
previously have associated
589
00:30:45,244 --> 00:30:46,910
with an electric guitar.
590
00:30:46,912 --> 00:30:50,314
One of the things that's
interesting is these people
591
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:54,284
who have such a huge
profound influence
592
00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:56,486
on everything that follows them,
593
00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:59,289
so many of them are recording
594
00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,892
for such a short period of time.
595
00:31:01,894 --> 00:31:04,394
We've talked about how
Blind Lemon Jefferson's
596
00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:07,030
recording career only
lasted for four years.
597
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:09,233
Of course, pretty
much the same is true
598
00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:10,367
with Jimi Hendrix as well.
599
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,135
Session
work prior to that,
600
00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:14,605
but he begins recording
with Jimi Hendrix Experience
601
00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:18,408
in 1966, and by 1970, he's dead.
602
00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:20,777
In the
wake of Hendrix,
603
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:22,379
rock music became heavier.
604
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,281
The spotlight
shifted from frontmen
605
00:31:24,283 --> 00:31:26,283
to virtuoso lead guitarists.
606
00:31:26,285 --> 00:31:29,753
First Cream and then Led
Zeppelin emerged from the UK,
607
00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:31,255
ushering in a new era
608
00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:33,290
of lengthy solos
and extreme volume.
609
00:31:33,292 --> 00:31:35,592
Stevie incorporated
these new trends
610
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:36,793
into his own playing.
611
00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:38,295
Now at high school
612
00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,530
and a member of the band,
The Brooklyn Underground,
613
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:42,699
although a shy and
quiet teenager,
614
00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:44,768
he was beginning to
make his presence known
615
00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:46,203
to fellow musicians.
616
00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:48,071
I met him
in the lunch room
617
00:31:48,073 --> 00:31:49,239
at Campbel High school.
618
00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:52,342
In probably '68, '69,
619
00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:54,645
I think it was his
sophomore year,
620
00:31:54,647 --> 00:31:56,213
and it was my senior year.
621
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:59,316
He just came up to me one day,
622
00:31:59,318 --> 00:32:02,119
"Hi Roddy!"
623
00:32:02,121 --> 00:32:03,553
I didn't know who he was.
624
00:32:04,657 --> 00:32:06,924
He said, "Well I'm Jimmy
Vaughan's little brother".
625
00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:08,258
"Okay", you know.
626
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,761
I was already playing with bands
627
00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:13,630
from three or four years.
628
00:32:13,632 --> 00:32:15,532
The first time we
jammed together,
629
00:32:15,534 --> 00:32:17,634
I knew this guy's a
serious guitar player.
630
00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:19,836
He would call me occasionally,
631
00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:21,004
"Hey, can you come by?"
632
00:32:21,006 --> 00:32:23,040
Because I had a
car and he didn't.
633
00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:25,475
We started going around
town a little bit.
634
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,879
I remember the
first time he said,
635
00:32:28,881 --> 00:32:31,915
"Hey, let's go down to
the Aragon Ballroom",
636
00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:36,920
and it was this black club
way over in south Dallas.
637
00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:40,190
We go in this place,
638
00:32:40,192 --> 00:32:45,195
and the guy at the front
door, he's got one eye,
639
00:32:45,564 --> 00:32:47,531
"Stevie, go on in, man!".
640
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,499
Here I am, I'm 18
641
00:32:49,501 --> 00:32:50,801
I can't even get into the clubs
642
00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:52,736
and Stevie's getting
me into the door.
643
00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:55,572
We'd go in and sit in and play.
644
00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:59,242
His big jam song was
always Crossroads,
645
00:32:59,244 --> 00:33:01,511
the Clapton version.
646
00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,180
That was the big song.
647
00:33:03,182 --> 00:33:04,247
He'd get up there
and tear it up,
648
00:33:04,249 --> 00:33:05,515
everybody loved it.
649
00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:07,351
♪ I'm going
down to Rosedale
650
00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:10,153
♪ Take my rider by my side
651
00:33:11,724 --> 00:33:14,191
♪ Going down to Rosedale
652
00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:16,793
♪ Take my rider by my side
653
00:33:18,931 --> 00:33:21,565
♪ You can still
barrelhouse, baby
654
00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:23,567
♪ On the riverside
655
00:33:36,115 --> 00:33:38,115
Clapton had a huge
effect on Stevie.
656
00:33:38,117 --> 00:33:41,485
He could lip-synch and
air guitar every riff.
657
00:33:43,622 --> 00:33:45,956
He spent hours and hours
learning his style.
658
00:33:45,958 --> 00:33:47,557
At the same time,
659
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:52,295
my brother gave me a Albert
King album one Christmas.
660
00:33:52,297 --> 00:33:55,032
It was Live Wire Blues Power.
661
00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:57,434
I loaned it to Stevie,
662
00:33:57,436 --> 00:33:59,236
and said, "Hey man,
you gotta hear this".
663
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:01,071
A year and a half later,
664
00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:03,607
I get the album back.
665
00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:05,876
I still have it, it
has my name on there
666
00:34:05,878 --> 00:34:09,379
to make sure that he would
know whose it was.
667
00:34:10,482 --> 00:34:11,715
It was Albert King,
668
00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:13,950
a Mississippi-born
guitarist and singer,
669
00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:16,420
who had only risen
to prominence in 1967
670
00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:17,954
while he was in his late 40s,
671
00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:19,656
who would become the
dominant influence
672
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,091
upon the young Vaughan.
673
00:34:21,093 --> 00:34:23,860
Drawing the teenager's attention
away from British players
674
00:34:23,862 --> 00:34:25,996
to the authentic
heart of the blues.
675
00:34:56,395 --> 00:34:58,095
What were some of
the tunes, if you can remember,
676
00:34:58,097 --> 00:35:00,130
some of the slow blueses, and
what were some of the things
677
00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:02,432
that helped you
develop your style?
678
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:04,634
Albert King
records, for one thing.
679
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:06,403
B.B. King Live at The Regal,
680
00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:08,972
Albert King Born Under Bad Sign,
681
00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:10,574
I guess it was called at first.
682
00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:12,476
Or was it King of
the Blues Guitar?
683
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:14,244
I think it was Born
Under Bad Sign,
684
00:35:14,246 --> 00:35:15,812
is what they were
calling it at the time.
685
00:35:15,814 --> 00:35:17,514
I remember seeing,
believe it or not,
686
00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:19,182
Albert King on TV,
687
00:35:19,184 --> 00:35:22,919
doing Born Under Bad Sign,
and I was like "Yes!"
688
00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:26,022
When
singer-songwriter
689
00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,791
and future
collaborator Marc Benno
690
00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:30,760
was first joined on
stage by Stevie in 1969,
691
00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:33,797
King's style had by now
become the key inspiration
692
00:35:33,799 --> 00:35:35,232
for the young guitarist.
693
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:37,834
His technique impressed the
more-established musician.
694
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,669
He got up
there and he played
695
00:35:39,671 --> 00:35:42,739
a kind of a skeletal
Albert King.
696
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:46,476
He didn't really
have all the cards
697
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,178
in the deck put together yet
698
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:53,450
but he had a really sweet
vibrato and an incredible tone.
699
00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:55,619
I remember people
were screaming,
700
00:35:55,621 --> 00:35:57,854
and it was already a phenomenon
701
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,091
but he was no
master of the guitar
702
00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:06,096
but he was really talented
for a 98 pound kid.
703
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:11,434
He had a lot of obstacles,
being Jimmy Vaughan's brother.
704
00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:16,273
At the time, Jimmy was
really not nice to anybody.
705
00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:21,178
It's not all sweet Mary
Poppins stuff here.
706
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:23,113
I think Jimmy had
some tough guys
707
00:36:23,115 --> 00:36:24,714
that he patterned himself after.
708
00:36:24,716 --> 00:36:27,450
Guitar players don't
generally like each other
709
00:36:27,452 --> 00:36:28,718
very much anyway.
710
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,689
It's a competitive,
gunslinger-type deal
711
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:34,257
and it sure was back then.
712
00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:35,892
I remember he told Stevie,
713
00:36:35,894 --> 00:36:37,761
"Listen you start
teaching yourself"
714
00:36:37,763 --> 00:36:38,962
"how to play guitar."
715
00:36:38,964 --> 00:36:40,397
"Don't ever play one
of my licks again."
716
00:36:40,399 --> 00:36:42,832
"You play that lick again,"
717
00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:46,036
"and I'm gonna beat your butt."
718
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:49,272
What happened that night,
719
00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:52,742
at the end it goes he
played that lick again,
720
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:54,844
which was one of
Jimmy's favorite licks.
721
00:36:56,315 --> 00:36:58,481
Let's just say that
I witnessed something
722
00:36:58,483 --> 00:36:59,716
that kind of shocked me.
723
00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:04,421
He encouraged him to
teach himself to play
724
00:37:04,423 --> 00:37:06,089
after that night.
725
00:37:06,692 --> 00:37:07,857
Although
Jimmy Vaughan
726
00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:09,459
had begun to treat
his younger brother
727
00:37:09,461 --> 00:37:10,994
in a harsh and irritable manner,
728
00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:13,563
other musicians on the
scene were more nurturing.
729
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:17,167
No longer interested in playing
covers of Top 40 material.
730
00:37:17,169 --> 00:37:19,869
In 1969, Jimmy had
formed the blues group
731
00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:21,871
Texas Storm with Doyle Bramhall
732
00:37:21,873 --> 00:37:23,173
and singer Paul Ray.
733
00:37:23,175 --> 00:37:25,342
These bandmates
actively encouraged
734
00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:26,710
Stevie's development.
735
00:37:26,712 --> 00:37:28,445
Jimmy and I were
playing in a band together
736
00:37:28,447 --> 00:37:30,714
called the Storm, Texas Storm.
737
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:35,752
Big Jim and Martha
came in with Stevie
738
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:38,722
and he was just a
little kid in '69,
739
00:37:38,724 --> 00:37:40,190
so whatever that made him.
740
00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:43,360
At the break, I had
this old gretsch
741
00:37:43,362 --> 00:37:45,996
club fat
guitar, looked like furniture.
742
00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:47,497
It looked like a coffee table.
743
00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:53,003
Stevie was enamored of the
look of the guitar and all
744
00:37:53,005 --> 00:37:54,004
so during the break,
745
00:37:54,006 --> 00:37:55,338
he came over and he said,
746
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:57,674
"Can I look at your guitar?"
747
00:37:58,477 --> 00:38:00,410
Because Jimmy was playing
it once in a while,
748
00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:02,212
just to be playing it.
749
00:38:03,181 --> 00:38:06,116
He got it and was sitting
there on the stage
750
00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:09,619
and he said, "Let's
do Stormy Monday."
751
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,122
I felt to play, and I
see the Stormy Monday
752
00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:13,957
and I said, "If you're
sitting right here, okay."
753
00:38:13,959 --> 00:38:15,992
This is good, we're sitting
on the edge of the stage,
754
00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,193
and it was break.
755
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:20,830
Just me and Stevie
did Stormy Monday.
756
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:22,032
That's when I went,
757
00:38:22,034 --> 00:38:23,833
"He has learned some lessons",
758
00:38:23,835 --> 00:38:25,435
but he wasn't there yet.
759
00:38:25,437 --> 00:38:30,440
He had it all T-Bone and
Jimmy and all the people
760
00:38:30,776 --> 00:38:32,175
that he'd heard.
761
00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:35,211
Stevie was
bringing these influences
762
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:37,213
and techniques into
his own ensembles.
763
00:38:37,215 --> 00:38:39,883
Having graduated from
The Brooklyn Underground
764
00:38:39,885 --> 00:38:42,719
and another blues rock cover
band, Southern Distributor.
765
00:38:42,721 --> 00:38:45,488
In 1970, he joined
a far-larger unit,
766
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,158
Liberation, who had already
established themselves
767
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,592
in the Dallas club circuit.
768
00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:52,595
Here, he met saxophonist
Jim Tremmier.
769
00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:55,432
Liberation was
a ten-piece horn band
770
00:38:55,434 --> 00:38:57,133
We had two lead singers.
771
00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:01,404
I had tonsilitis in my
senior year in high school.
772
00:39:01,873 --> 00:39:04,074
When I came back
after tonsilitis,
773
00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:06,710
Stevie was in the band
774
00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:10,647
and my impression of him
775
00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:14,150
was he played better than
anybody I ever heard,
776
00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:15,452
up to that point.
777
00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:18,355
Stevie, although he was
a rock player back then,
778
00:39:18,357 --> 00:39:20,457
he was totally steeped in blues.
779
00:39:20,459 --> 00:39:22,659
He liked playing Clapton licks,
780
00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:24,194
he liked playing Crossroads,
781
00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:25,895
he liked playing Jimi Hendrix,
782
00:39:26,832 --> 00:39:29,332
but his first love was blues.
783
00:39:29,334 --> 00:39:30,633
I had a car.
784
00:39:30,635 --> 00:39:32,102
We would drive after school,
785
00:39:32,104 --> 00:39:33,837
he would have his
guitar with him.
786
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,539
He sat in the car the
whole time playing guitar.
787
00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:38,375
He would play guitar,
he would play guitar.
788
00:39:38,377 --> 00:39:39,776
He would play this and that,
789
00:39:39,778 --> 00:39:42,579
and he would repeat things
over and over again.
790
00:39:43,448 --> 00:39:44,681
We would go to his house,
791
00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:45,849
listen to records.
792
00:39:45,851 --> 00:39:47,817
He loved John Lee Hooker.
793
00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:49,085
There was a John
Lee Hooker album
794
00:39:49,087 --> 00:39:53,089
he would listen to over
and over and over again.
795
00:39:53,091 --> 00:39:55,592
♪ Daddy taught me
how to do the
796
00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:57,560
♪ I'll tell you one thing I know
797
00:39:57,562 --> 00:40:00,597
♪ How to boogie, boogie,
boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie
798
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,400
♪ All night long yes, yes
799
00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:08,605
♪ I said boogie, boogie
baby, boogie all night long
800
00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,073
♪ All right we're going
to boogie woogie ♪
801
00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:11,341
One of my memories
802
00:40:11,343 --> 00:40:13,209
is a song called Boogie
Woogie All Night Long.
803
00:40:14,112 --> 00:40:17,213
Stevie would play that
song over and over.
804
00:40:17,215 --> 00:40:19,115
There was sort of a false ending
805
00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:23,553
where John Lee Hooker
kind of go uh-ah-ah-ah
806
00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:25,688
and Stevie loved the ending.
807
00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:28,191
He copied it exactly
like John Lee Hooker
808
00:40:28,193 --> 00:40:30,927
and he would play it
50 times in a sitting.
809
00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:34,030
Liberation
was a short-lived outfit.
810
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:36,833
Yet its live shows initiated
the 15-year-old Vaughan
811
00:40:36,835 --> 00:40:38,368
on the Dallas club circuit.
812
00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:41,938
Shortly after he left the
band in September 1970,
813
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,273
he was then offered the chance
814
00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:45,408
to record in the studio
for the first time.
815
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:48,011
Local businessman John Bovewell
816
00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:50,914
was funding an album
project entitled "A New Hi"
817
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:52,415
which would compile the work
818
00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:55,518
of five Dallas high school
bands, and Stevie was invited
819
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,821
to join Cast of
Thousands on the record.
820
00:40:57,823 --> 00:41:01,458
A unit formed by songwriters
Bobby Foreman and Jim Rigby.
821
00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:03,793
Bobby Foreman
had heard him play
822
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:06,696
and then he calls and says,
"This guy's unbelievable."
823
00:41:06,698 --> 00:41:08,431
"You're not gonna
believe how good he is."
824
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:10,333
At the time Jimmy Vaughan,
825
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,802
everybody said was
the best in Texas.
826
00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:14,037
There's no question.
827
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,573
Stevie was sort of the
little kid brother.
828
00:41:17,209 --> 00:41:20,243
I would see him in school
but he was so quiet,
829
00:41:20,245 --> 00:41:22,412
and we all thought
he was a druggie.
830
00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:24,214
Which he may have been too
831
00:41:24,216 --> 00:41:25,415
but the reason he
was like he was,
832
00:41:25,417 --> 00:41:27,550
was because he was
sneaking out at night
833
00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:31,488
and playing in clubs
at 15, 16 years old.
834
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:35,058
He was somehow
playing all night,
835
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,793
maybe getting a
couple hours sleep,
836
00:41:36,795 --> 00:41:38,661
and coming back and
getting through school.
837
00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:42,999
The project
was to be five bands,
838
00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:46,202
one from each of the
south Dallas high schools.
839
00:41:46,204 --> 00:41:48,571
Each band would do two songs,
840
00:41:48,573 --> 00:41:50,573
so there was an
album with ten songs.
841
00:41:50,575 --> 00:41:54,644
The boys in the band would sell
these albums as fundraisers.
842
00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:56,679
They would actually get
a little bit of money,
843
00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,181
a dollar here and there,
844
00:41:58,583 --> 00:42:03,553
and the promoter would submit
this to local radio stations
845
00:42:03,955 --> 00:42:06,322
and whichever band
got the most airplay
846
00:42:06,324 --> 00:42:09,592
was going to get to
record their own album.
847
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:11,761
There'd been a
group in Fort Worth
848
00:42:11,763 --> 00:42:15,832
called Blood Rock, who did a
song about a traffic accident
849
00:42:15,834 --> 00:42:17,200
where somebody bleeds to death.
850
00:42:17,802 --> 00:42:19,435
They were like a one-hit wonder.
851
00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:23,273
That was enough success
for this manager to think,
852
00:42:23,275 --> 00:42:24,807
"Okay, I can do this."
853
00:42:24,809 --> 00:42:27,710
"I'll put this together, I'll
pay for the recording studio."
854
00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,212
"I'll promise these
kids the moon."
855
00:42:30,615 --> 00:42:32,582
Possibly he was planning
on delivering someday.
856
00:42:33,118 --> 00:42:36,286
Stevie Ray, Stevie at
that point, signs on.
857
00:42:36,922 --> 00:42:40,990
We start rehearsing,
and instantly I realize
858
00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:42,859
I've never seen
anybody like this kid.
859
00:42:42,861 --> 00:42:45,261
We practice, we go to the studio
860
00:42:46,197 --> 00:42:48,364
and they like our stuff.
861
00:42:48,366 --> 00:42:50,400
We get to cut two songs.
862
00:42:51,136 --> 00:42:53,469
When Stevie starts to play,
863
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:56,873
the people in the sound
booth start leaning forward.
864
00:42:56,875 --> 00:43:01,311
It's like they're almost pressing their face on the glass.
865
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,515
I look over, and he hadn't
done this in rehearsal,
866
00:43:06,251 --> 00:43:09,152
but his hand looked
like a hummingbird.
867
00:43:10,355 --> 00:43:11,754
It was moving so fast
868
00:43:11,756 --> 00:43:13,456
that I couldn't make
the fingers out.
869
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:16,926
The studio was blown
away by Stevie.
870
00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:18,194
We're sitting there
trying to concentrate
871
00:43:18,196 --> 00:43:19,896
on playing and
singing and things.
872
00:43:19,898 --> 00:43:21,631
I could see them out
the corner of my eye
873
00:43:21,633 --> 00:43:24,634
almost like a child
looking into a candy shop,
874
00:43:25,704 --> 00:43:27,270
just kind of leaning over,
875
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:29,272
"What in the hell is this?"
876
00:43:29,274 --> 00:43:32,675
Because he was like a
force of nature already.
877
00:43:33,178 --> 00:43:35,511
♪ I heard
a voice last night
878
00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:40,617
♪ As I lay here last night
879
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:45,455
♪ And it said yes
it said the word
880
00:43:46,625 --> 00:43:50,593
♪ Like the scene in
the
881
00:43:51,162 --> 00:43:52,362
♪ I heard a voice
882
00:43:52,364 --> 00:43:54,230
To me, it was
a great moment,
883
00:43:54,232 --> 00:43:56,032
and we weren't trying
to make it permanent
884
00:43:56,034 --> 00:43:57,767
It's a high school band
885
00:43:57,769 --> 00:43:59,535
but you see the potential there.
886
00:43:59,537 --> 00:44:02,038
At that time, he hadn't
found his own style,
887
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,409
so he was imitating Eric
Clapton and Jimi Hendrix
888
00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:08,911
and that's where the speed
stuff was coming from.
889
00:44:40,011 --> 00:44:41,811
The band members admit
890
00:44:41,813 --> 00:44:45,982
that they didn't give this
project their best material
891
00:44:45,984 --> 00:44:48,184
because they were afraid
it was going to get stolen.
892
00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,386
They were kind of
holding back a little bit
893
00:44:50,388 --> 00:44:53,790
so the song selection
limited Stevie a little bit
894
00:44:53,792 --> 00:44:56,993
because it wasn't the
band's strongest material.
895
00:44:56,995 --> 00:44:58,861
But still, we see
896
00:44:58,863 --> 00:45:02,265
that Stevie can take
an original song
897
00:45:02,267 --> 00:45:03,933
and put guitar to it.
898
00:45:03,935 --> 00:45:06,302
He doesn't have to hear
something on the radio
899
00:45:06,304 --> 00:45:07,704
and mimic it.
900
00:45:07,706 --> 00:45:10,873
This is new material,
this is new guitar stuff.
901
00:45:10,875 --> 00:45:13,543
It's stuff created by
Stevie for these songs.
902
00:45:14,479 --> 00:45:18,147
The engineer who recorded
on these five bands
903
00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:19,482
for the project
904
00:45:19,484 --> 00:45:21,517
said that after listening
to all these bands
905
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,519
and seeing Stevie play,
906
00:45:23,521 --> 00:45:25,354
he said, "That guy's a ringer."
907
00:45:25,356 --> 00:45:27,690
"This guy's got an
unfair advantage."
908
00:45:27,692 --> 00:45:29,292
"He must have been brought in"
909
00:45:29,294 --> 00:45:31,427
"specifically to win
this competition".
910
00:45:31,429 --> 00:45:33,062
But he wasn't.
911
00:45:33,064 --> 00:45:35,631
He was just the best
guitar player around.
912
00:45:36,534 --> 00:45:38,067
Upon the
record's release,
913
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:40,203
Cast of Thousands
received more airplay
914
00:45:40,205 --> 00:45:42,405
than any of the competing
bands on the LP.
915
00:45:42,407 --> 00:45:43,973
Yet the project fell apart
916
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:46,809
when organizer John Bovewell
was arrested for murder.
917
00:45:46,811 --> 00:45:50,046
Yet Stevie Vaughan had
already moved on by this time,
918
00:45:50,048 --> 00:45:52,582
working his way through
a number of new outfits,
919
00:45:52,584 --> 00:45:55,251
including Pecos and
The Derek Jones Party.
920
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:57,520
It was in the band
Lincoln, however,
921
00:45:57,522 --> 00:45:59,922
that he first worked with
Christian Charles de Plicque,
922
00:45:59,924 --> 00:46:02,125
a vocalist whom he
had long admired.
923
00:46:02,127 --> 00:46:06,028
In August 1971, no longer
attached to any group,
924
00:46:06,030 --> 00:46:07,330
de Plicque brought Vaughan
925
00:46:07,332 --> 00:46:09,198
to the home of
organist Noel Deis,
926
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,867
where rehearsals
were taking place
927
00:46:10,869 --> 00:46:12,802
for a new ensemble, Blackbird.
928
00:46:12,804 --> 00:46:14,103
It was in this band
929
00:46:14,105 --> 00:46:16,239
that Stevie first
came to prominence.
930
00:46:16,241 --> 00:46:19,142
I think he was 16 or
17 when I first met him.
931
00:46:19,144 --> 00:46:20,943
He was kind of reticent.
932
00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:23,546
Kind of a little
bit of a shy kid.
933
00:46:23,548 --> 00:46:26,182
I went "Wow, this is
Jimmy's brother, huh?"
934
00:46:27,185 --> 00:46:29,719
Because Jimmy was the guitar god
935
00:46:29,721 --> 00:46:31,521
of the Dallas area at the time.
936
00:46:31,523 --> 00:46:35,424
You can't overemphasize
the drive that Stevie had
937
00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,427
to be at least as
good as his brother.
938
00:46:38,429 --> 00:46:39,562
He really wanted to be
939
00:46:39,564 --> 00:46:41,030
at least as good as Jimmy was.
940
00:46:42,066 --> 00:46:43,766
When he came to play with us
941
00:46:43,768 --> 00:46:46,235
it was kind of his
chance, I think.
942
00:46:46,237 --> 00:46:48,838
It was his chance to
get away from the house,
943
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,907
and get out of the house
944
00:46:50,909 --> 00:46:53,676
and get into a band that
could take him some place.
945
00:46:54,212 --> 00:46:56,212
Blackbird
fulfilled that need.
946
00:46:56,748 --> 00:46:58,681
Initially a six-piece ensemble,
947
00:46:58,683 --> 00:47:00,116
the band developed their act
948
00:47:00,118 --> 00:47:02,185
during regular shows at
the Cellar Club in Dallas.
949
00:47:02,187 --> 00:47:04,587
Unlike Vaughan's
previous groups,
950
00:47:04,589 --> 00:47:06,956
although Blackbird still
played cover material,
951
00:47:06,958 --> 00:47:09,525
their repertoire was
inspired by a new band,
952
00:47:09,527 --> 00:47:11,994
whose unique sound was
bringing southern roots music
953
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:13,462
directly into the mainstream.
954
00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:18,034
In 1969, shortly after Johnny
Winter's rise to prominence,
955
00:47:18,036 --> 00:47:21,103
an act emerged who would
spearhead a new wave of music
956
00:47:21,105 --> 00:47:22,972
emanating from the
American south,
957
00:47:22,974 --> 00:47:24,841
The Allman Brothers Band.
958
00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:28,544
Drawing firsthand from
the blues and soul artists
959
00:47:28,546 --> 00:47:30,146
around whom they had grown up,
960
00:47:30,148 --> 00:47:32,915
this Floridian unit
exhibited an authenticity
961
00:47:32,917 --> 00:47:35,184
that their British forebearers
could never deliver.
962
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:36,786
They became the inspiration
963
00:47:36,788 --> 00:47:38,688
and the template for Blackbird.
964
00:47:39,090 --> 00:47:41,390
The Allman Brothers
got our attention
965
00:47:41,392 --> 00:47:43,626
because they had, first
of all, Gregg Allman,
966
00:47:43,628 --> 00:47:44,827
who's a wonderful singer.
967
00:47:44,829 --> 00:47:46,629
Between the two guitarists,
968
00:47:46,631 --> 00:47:48,397
and the Hamman B3,
969
00:47:48,399 --> 00:47:52,034
and the drive, the sheer drive,
970
00:47:52,036 --> 00:47:53,903
and creativity those guys had.
971
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,605
They were also a jam band,
972
00:47:55,607 --> 00:47:56,505
which we loved to do.
973
00:47:56,507 --> 00:47:58,307
We wanted to be a jam band,
974
00:47:58,309 --> 00:48:00,042
and that was part
of out schtick.
975
00:48:00,044 --> 00:48:02,545
The way they synthesized
all those elements together
976
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:04,313
was just food for us.
977
00:48:28,072 --> 00:48:31,107
For Stevie, the key
inspiration within the band
978
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:32,475
was their talismanic leader
979
00:48:32,477 --> 00:48:34,944
and virtuoso guitarist,
Duane Allman.
980
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:39,649
The Derek Jones party,
981
00:48:39,651 --> 00:48:41,250
their manager, Dan Louis,
982
00:48:41,252 --> 00:48:44,353
his dad ran the ushering service
983
00:48:44,355 --> 00:48:46,822
at the state fair music hall
984
00:48:46,824 --> 00:48:47,823
so we would get free tickets.
985
00:48:47,825 --> 00:48:49,325
I remember the night
986
00:48:49,327 --> 00:48:50,893
that we got two free tickets
987
00:48:50,895 --> 00:48:52,662
to see The Allman Brothers Band.
988
00:48:52,997 --> 00:48:55,331
Stevie and I sat
up in the balcony
989
00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:56,265
right over the stage,
990
00:48:56,267 --> 00:48:57,833
and watched the show
991
00:48:57,835 --> 00:48:59,468
and its like blew us away.
992
00:48:59,470 --> 00:49:00,903
The two drummers slamming it
993
00:49:00,905 --> 00:49:04,840
and jamming and Duane
Allman and all of them
994
00:49:04,842 --> 00:49:06,609
at the top of their
game at that point.
995
00:49:07,145 --> 00:49:09,946
Two weeks later,
Duane Allman died.
996
00:49:32,203 --> 00:49:34,070
Stevie would study people.
997
00:49:34,072 --> 00:49:37,039
He studied Clapton and
I mean studied him.
998
00:49:37,041 --> 00:49:39,308
He learned every
lick on the record
999
00:49:40,111 --> 00:49:41,477
and same thing with Duane
1000
00:49:41,479 --> 00:49:42,945
we listened to all their stuff.
1001
00:49:42,947 --> 00:49:45,514
That slide guitar
style that he developed
1002
00:49:45,516 --> 00:49:47,383
was new.
1003
00:49:48,186 --> 00:49:49,719
It broke new ground
1004
00:49:49,721 --> 00:49:51,988
and Stevie wanted a
part of that action.
1005
00:49:53,224 --> 00:49:56,225
One thing that's
never mentioned much
1006
00:49:56,227 --> 00:49:58,294
is how great a slide
player he really was.
1007
00:49:58,296 --> 00:50:01,831
In that band, he
just caught fire.
1008
00:50:01,833 --> 00:50:04,400
You could just see smoke
coming off of the fretboard
1009
00:50:04,402 --> 00:50:06,402
when he got a slide out
1010
00:50:06,404 --> 00:50:07,870
and just really went at it.
1011
00:50:07,872 --> 00:50:10,306
We had lots of
practice at The Cellar
1012
00:50:10,308 --> 00:50:13,109
so we're forever
indebted to The Cellar
1013
00:50:13,111 --> 00:50:14,710
to this day, in a way.
1014
00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:16,545
By late 1971,
1015
00:50:16,547 --> 00:50:18,681
Blackbird were becoming
a prominent fixture
1016
00:50:18,683 --> 00:50:19,715
on the Dallas circuit.
1017
00:50:19,717 --> 00:50:20,916
Vaughan's lead work
1018
00:50:20,918 --> 00:50:22,885
opposite fellow
guitarist Kim Davis
1019
00:50:22,887 --> 00:50:24,553
was establishing his reputation.
1020
00:50:24,555 --> 00:50:27,823
In October, after years
of poor attendance records
1021
00:50:27,825 --> 00:50:29,959
and average grades,
the band's success
1022
00:50:29,961 --> 00:50:31,494
convinced him to
quit high school
1023
00:50:31,496 --> 00:50:33,329
and to pursue his
musical ambitions
1024
00:50:33,331 --> 00:50:34,663
on a full time basis.
1025
00:50:34,665 --> 00:50:36,465
This was a
time when Stevie
1026
00:50:36,467 --> 00:50:38,834
was really developing
his tool set.
1027
00:50:38,836 --> 00:50:42,271
He started as a reticent shy kid
1028
00:50:43,007 --> 00:50:45,207
and he learned to be a
showman in that band.
1029
00:50:45,209 --> 00:50:47,443
He just caught fire.
1030
00:50:48,613 --> 00:50:51,047
All that dueling with Kim
1031
00:50:51,049 --> 00:50:52,782
and all the back-and-forth,
1032
00:50:52,784 --> 00:50:54,350
that was a key part
of our whole thing.
1033
00:50:56,387 --> 00:50:57,787
Plus, we had a black singer.
1034
00:50:57,789 --> 00:51:01,157
Now, that was also a
big deal in Dallas.
1035
00:51:01,225 --> 00:51:02,691
You just didn't see
1036
00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:06,195
that many black guys in a
rock band, for one thing.
1037
00:51:07,231 --> 00:51:08,964
Then the way that
Christian dressed
1038
00:51:09,634 --> 00:51:11,400
he wore these big earrings
1039
00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:13,836
and had these sort
of mumu things on,
1040
00:51:13,838 --> 00:51:16,005
it's like really cutting edge.
1041
00:51:16,507 --> 00:51:19,041
We sort of took off
in a different way
1042
00:51:19,043 --> 00:51:22,311
than the copy bands that
I previously played with.
1043
00:51:23,081 --> 00:51:26,048
We sort of got a little
bit of a cult following
1044
00:51:26,050 --> 00:51:28,751
and they were sort
of catching on.
1045
00:51:28,753 --> 00:51:30,186
We had a friend, Lou Stokes,
1046
00:51:30,188 --> 00:51:32,288
he would draw these
great posters.
1047
00:51:32,290 --> 00:51:35,558
We would start packing
little mini concerts
1048
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,026
that we were doing.
1049
00:51:37,028 --> 00:51:38,294
The kids were starting to
kind of catch on to it.
1050
00:51:38,296 --> 00:51:39,962
We would have three or
400 people at a gig.
1051
00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:44,467
We thought we were on
our way to stardom.
1052
00:51:46,304 --> 00:51:47,770
Blackbird's
local success
1053
00:51:47,772 --> 00:51:50,005
was, however, limited by
the lack of opportunities
1054
00:51:50,007 --> 00:51:51,307
in Dallas itself.
1055
00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:54,710
Yet, there was another
city, 200 miles south,
1056
00:51:54,712 --> 00:51:56,745
that had a growing reputation
as a musical hotbed,
1057
00:51:56,747 --> 00:51:58,147
Austin.
1058
00:51:58,149 --> 00:52:00,683
At the suggestion of their
bassist, David Frame,
1059
00:52:00,751 --> 00:52:02,585
it was here that
the band relocated
1060
00:52:02,587 --> 00:52:04,386
at the close of 1971.
1061
00:52:04,388 --> 00:52:06,522
Mike Hendrid, the pianist
1062
00:52:06,524 --> 00:52:08,124
he played with The Mystics,
1063
00:52:08,126 --> 00:52:09,892
and a really great pianist also,
1064
00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:12,161
he started playing with
this band, Crackerjack,
1065
00:52:12,163 --> 00:52:13,596
down in Austin.
1066
00:52:14,398 --> 00:52:16,165
Frame was really good
friends with them.
1067
00:52:17,368 --> 00:52:19,602
Frame was going down to Austin
1068
00:52:19,604 --> 00:52:22,304
to visit with Mike and
watching this band Crackerjack
1069
00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:24,807
it was Johnny Winter's
old rhythm section,
1070
00:52:24,809 --> 00:52:26,876
Tommy Shannon and
Uncle John Turner.
1071
00:52:26,878 --> 00:52:27,943
He would go down there,
1072
00:52:27,945 --> 00:52:29,211
he came back and says,
1073
00:52:29,213 --> 00:52:31,347
"Man we've gotta move to
Austin. We've got to."
1074
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:32,781
I think David Frame
1075
00:52:32,783 --> 00:52:36,118
had a whole lot to do
with us moving down there.
1076
00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:38,754
Austin was
a progressive oasis
1077
00:52:38,756 --> 00:52:40,623
in the heart of
conservative Texas.
1078
00:52:40,625 --> 00:52:43,692
The countercultural
revolution that had spread
1079
00:52:43,694 --> 00:52:45,027
through the US in
the late 1960s,
1080
00:52:45,029 --> 00:52:47,263
had been harshly repressed
across the state.
1081
00:52:47,265 --> 00:52:49,465
Yet, this small college town
1082
00:52:49,467 --> 00:52:50,466
had embraced it.
1083
00:52:50,968 --> 00:52:52,701
The Vulcan Gas Company,
1084
00:52:52,703 --> 00:52:55,237
the first major
psychedelic club in Texas,
1085
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,706
had opened its doors in 1967.
1086
00:52:57,708 --> 00:52:59,942
Showcasing the most
groundbreaking acts
1087
00:52:59,944 --> 00:53:01,544
then emerging on
the national scene,
1088
00:53:01,546 --> 00:53:04,747
alongside local bands and
blues and R&B legends.
1089
00:53:05,283 --> 00:53:06,549
It had been followed
1090
00:53:06,551 --> 00:53:08,951
by the Armadillo World
Headquarters in 1970.
1091
00:53:08,953 --> 00:53:11,887
The venue from which progressive
country would blossom.
1092
00:53:11,889 --> 00:53:13,689
With numerous smaller venues
1093
00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:14,924
scattered throughout the city,
1094
00:53:14,926 --> 00:53:16,525
it was an obvious destination
1095
00:53:16,527 --> 00:53:18,827
for the frustrated
musicians of Dallas.
1096
00:53:18,829 --> 00:53:23,399
That's what happened
in the 1970s in Austin.
1097
00:53:23,401 --> 00:53:25,968
There was a whole load
1098
00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:29,038
of young, ambitious players.
1099
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,043
Like Paul Ray, Danny
Freeman, Jimmy Vaughan,
1100
00:53:34,245 --> 00:53:36,712
Stevie Vaughan, Doyle Bramhall.
1101
00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:38,747
They all drifted
down from Dallas.
1102
00:53:38,749 --> 00:53:41,450
There was just more
of a sense of community
1103
00:53:41,452 --> 00:53:42,585
It was just a small -
1104
00:53:42,587 --> 00:53:44,753
Dallas is a big
town, big spread out.
1105
00:53:44,755 --> 00:53:47,289
There was a lot of
longhaired people up there,
1106
00:53:47,291 --> 00:53:51,727
but it was a big, fast city
1107
00:53:51,729 --> 00:53:52,962
compared to Austin.
1108
00:53:52,964 --> 00:53:54,730
Austin was a sleepy
little college town
1109
00:53:54,732 --> 00:53:57,199
with a whole lot of
pretty girls in it.
1110
00:53:57,201 --> 00:54:00,269
There was a few cities
around the country
1111
00:54:00,271 --> 00:54:02,204
that kind of had a rep
1112
00:54:02,206 --> 00:54:05,507
as being havens for
long-haired people and stuff.
1113
00:54:05,509 --> 00:54:08,410
Austin was just one
of those places.
1114
00:54:08,412 --> 00:54:10,546
There was a community
of people like that.
1115
00:54:10,548 --> 00:54:14,316
There was just a community
of like-minded people,
1116
00:54:14,318 --> 00:54:15,784
so you felt kind of safe,
1117
00:54:15,786 --> 00:54:18,520
and, of course, that
would attract musicians.
1118
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:23,292
Austin became a music
town in the '70s,
1119
00:54:23,294 --> 00:54:24,360
really in my opinion.
1120
00:54:25,229 --> 00:54:26,528
Jimmy Vaughan
1121
00:54:26,530 --> 00:54:28,397
and his sometime
bandmates, Denny Freeman,
1122
00:54:28,399 --> 00:54:30,199
Doyle Bramhall, and Paul Ray,
1123
00:54:30,201 --> 00:54:33,369
had gravitated to this
music town in mid 1970,
1124
00:54:33,371 --> 00:54:35,904
looking to establish their brand
1125
00:54:35,906 --> 00:54:37,873
of traditional blues among
the divergent musical styles
1126
00:54:37,875 --> 00:54:39,742
that were flourishing
in Austin at the time.
1127
00:54:40,544 --> 00:54:43,445
Although he was again following
in his brother's footsteps,
1128
00:54:43,447 --> 00:54:45,447
when Stevie Vaughan
arrived in the city
1129
00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:47,883
in late '71 with Blackbird,
1130
00:54:47,885 --> 00:54:49,385
he entered a totally
different circuit,
1131
00:54:49,387 --> 00:54:51,186
playing the popular rock clubs.
1132
00:54:51,188 --> 00:54:53,756
Within weeks, he and
the band were propelled
1133
00:54:53,758 --> 00:54:55,324
to the very top of the scene.
1134
00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:56,525
There was a tendency
1135
00:54:56,527 --> 00:54:59,228
for people to follow
the local acts
1136
00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:01,130
and people were
always interested
1137
00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:04,733
in who's got the
best guitar player,
1138
00:55:04,735 --> 00:55:05,868
who's got the best music,
1139
00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:08,404
and where's the best
scene happening.
1140
00:55:09,173 --> 00:55:11,640
Our competition was a
band called Crackerjack.
1141
00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:14,009
These were founded
by two former members
1142
00:55:14,011 --> 00:55:15,077
of Johnny Winter's band,
1143
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:16,278
basically his whole band
1144
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,013
Tommy Shannon and
Uncle John Turner.
1145
00:55:18,015 --> 00:55:19,281
They were a great band.
1146
00:55:19,283 --> 00:55:20,482
They had a great concept.
1147
00:55:20,484 --> 00:55:22,551
They had more original
stuff than we did
1148
00:55:22,553 --> 00:55:26,522
so it was really between
Blackbird and Crackerjack
1149
00:55:26,524 --> 00:55:27,823
dominated the scene.
1150
00:55:27,825 --> 00:55:30,492
People would go from
one bar to the other,
1151
00:55:31,095 --> 00:55:32,428
or one gig to the other
1152
00:55:33,764 --> 00:55:34,863
just to follow us.
1153
00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:36,065
Jimmy had
already moved here,
1154
00:55:36,067 --> 00:55:37,333
and so I'd gotten to know Jimmy
1155
00:55:37,335 --> 00:55:39,001
and I'd been playing
with Jimmy and stuff.
1156
00:55:39,003 --> 00:55:41,570
Jimmy and I had become friends
1157
00:55:41,572 --> 00:55:44,973
and so Stevie would
come down here.
1158
00:55:45,509 --> 00:55:47,843
I started getting to
know Stevie a little bit.
1159
00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:50,346
I think I probably
first heard him here
1160
00:55:50,348 --> 00:55:52,614
playing with that
band, Blackbird.
1161
00:55:52,616 --> 00:55:56,452
He was maybe 17, maybe,
not much more than that.
1162
00:55:59,190 --> 00:56:01,623
"God, now there's two of them."
1163
00:56:01,625 --> 00:56:05,160
It was obvious pretty
early on to a lot of people
1164
00:56:05,162 --> 00:56:08,797
that we're gonna be hearing
more from this kid too.
1165
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,233
Unlike in Dallas,
1166
00:56:11,235 --> 00:56:13,001
audiences in Austin at the time
1167
00:56:13,003 --> 00:56:14,903
were more aware of
Stevie Vaughan's talents
1168
00:56:14,905 --> 00:56:16,271
than those of his older brother.
1169
00:56:16,774 --> 00:56:19,007
While Blackbird played
at the South Door,
1170
00:56:19,009 --> 00:56:20,309
the Waterloo Social Club,
1171
00:56:20,311 --> 00:56:22,077
and other venues
on the rock circuit
1172
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:23,278
to packed crowds,
1173
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,748
Jimmy's band Storm
were playing residency
1174
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:28,584
at the One Knite Club,
struggling to draw attention
1175
00:56:28,586 --> 00:56:30,953
to a musical form that
was no longer in demand.
1176
00:56:32,123 --> 00:56:34,690
There was a pure blues
scene in Austin, no question,
1177
00:56:34,692 --> 00:56:36,625
and Jimmy was right
at the center of it
1178
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:40,529
but it was a very separate
scene from our circuit.
1179
00:56:41,866 --> 00:56:43,265
Some people crossed over
1180
00:56:43,267 --> 00:56:45,868
to go hear Jimmy and
Storm at the One Knite,
1181
00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:47,603
but a lot of people didn't.
1182
00:56:47,605 --> 00:56:51,006
They really followed either
Crackerjack or Blackbird.
1183
00:56:51,008 --> 00:56:52,708
It wasn't
really happening.
1184
00:56:53,144 --> 00:56:54,410
People didn't ...
1185
00:56:54,412 --> 00:56:57,413
It was like, you gave
a gig and nobody came.
1186
00:56:57,715 --> 00:57:02,317
I mean sometimes we'd make
three or $4 a piece there.
1187
00:57:02,386 --> 00:57:05,354
It was like I was really surprised because I thought that -
1188
00:57:06,056 --> 00:57:07,623
I mean, I don't know
how good we were.
1189
00:57:07,625 --> 00:57:08,991
We couldn't have been that bad,
1190
00:57:08,993 --> 00:57:11,026
because Doyle was singing
and playing drums.
1191
00:57:11,629 --> 00:57:14,263
Jimmy was playing guitar,
I was playing guitar
1192
00:57:14,265 --> 00:57:18,333
and I thought well "Gosh,
it couldn't be that bad".
1193
00:57:19,203 --> 00:57:21,637
Whether we were good or not,
1194
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:23,172
Jimmy was in the band.
1195
00:57:23,174 --> 00:57:26,442
I just thought "Well,
he's got cash A already".
1196
00:57:26,444 --> 00:57:30,646
It appeared that the
further Jimmy got into blues
1197
00:57:30,648 --> 00:57:32,514
it was kind of
inversely proprotional
1198
00:57:32,516 --> 00:57:35,784
to the people that had the
interest in him or something.
1199
00:57:35,786 --> 00:57:36,552
But we were stubborn,
1200
00:57:36,554 --> 00:57:38,253
and determined,
1201
00:57:38,255 --> 00:57:42,624
and we had some fairly
significant members
1202
00:57:42,626 --> 00:57:44,793
among our number,
1203
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:47,329
and so we didn't go away.
1204
00:57:47,731 --> 00:57:49,631
It was not easy.
1205
00:57:50,468 --> 00:57:51,733
While
the blues players
1206
00:57:51,735 --> 00:57:53,035
remained in the margins,
1207
00:57:53,037 --> 00:57:54,903
in the second half of 1972,
1208
00:57:54,905 --> 00:57:57,172
the short reign of Blackbird
on the rock circuit
1209
00:57:57,174 --> 00:57:58,307
came to an end.
1210
00:57:58,876 --> 00:58:00,542
Despite the popularity
of the group.
1211
00:58:00,544 --> 00:58:03,278
Internal differences and
a lack of progression
1212
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,080
caused band members to depart.
1213
00:58:05,082 --> 00:58:06,548
By the end of the year,
1214
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:09,051
similar problems had beset
their rivals, Crackerjack.
1215
00:58:09,353 --> 00:58:11,587
This led to the
initial, brief union
1216
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:14,223
of bassist Tommy Shannon
and Stevie Ray Vaughan.
1217
00:58:14,225 --> 00:58:15,691
At a certain point,
1218
00:58:15,693 --> 00:58:16,892
David Frame, our bass player,
1219
00:58:16,894 --> 00:58:18,560
he decided he wanted
to leave the band.
1220
00:58:18,562 --> 00:58:21,363
He went with this
band Too Smooth.
1221
00:58:21,365 --> 00:58:23,131
I think they had
a record deal too.
1222
00:58:23,767 --> 00:58:27,803
David left and it kind of
left us with no bass player
1223
00:58:27,805 --> 00:58:29,404
and Crackerjack was
starting to dissolve,
1224
00:58:30,774 --> 00:58:33,542
so we got Tommy to come
over into our band.
1225
00:58:33,544 --> 00:58:35,143
Not too long after that,
1226
00:58:35,145 --> 00:58:36,445
Christian left the band
1227
00:58:36,447 --> 00:58:38,947
and then Bruce Bowland
was the singer,
1228
00:58:38,949 --> 00:58:43,385
so it was Stevie, Shannon,
Bowland, and myself.
1229
00:58:43,387 --> 00:58:46,688
We played that way
maybe six months.
1230
00:58:47,791 --> 00:58:49,625
By December '72,
1231
00:58:49,627 --> 00:58:51,026
the constant lineup changing
1232
00:58:51,028 --> 00:58:53,795
saw Stevie Vaughan drafted
into a reformed Crackerjack.
1233
00:58:53,797 --> 00:58:56,865
Yet this lasted only two
months before disbanding.
1234
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:58,667
Despite these disappointments,
1235
00:58:58,669 --> 00:59:00,969
a new project was about to
pull the young guitarist
1236
00:59:00,971 --> 00:59:03,839
out of Autstin and back
into a recording studio.
1237
00:59:04,808 --> 00:59:07,876
Mark Benno, whose career had
gained significant momentum
1238
00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:10,612
since Stevie joined him
on stage back in '69,
1239
00:59:10,614 --> 00:59:12,614
was looking for
fresh inspiration.
1240
00:59:13,551 --> 00:59:16,552
Having moved to the west coast
at the tail end of the '60s,
1241
00:59:16,554 --> 00:59:18,120
successfully
establishing himself,
1242
00:59:18,122 --> 00:59:20,923
first in the group The Asylum
Choir with Leon Russell,
1243
00:59:20,925 --> 00:59:22,624
and later as a solo artist.
1244
00:59:22,626 --> 00:59:26,595
Benno returned to his
home state in March 1973,
1245
00:59:26,597 --> 00:59:28,730
looking to assemble
a Texas blues band
1246
00:59:28,732 --> 00:59:30,065
for his new record.
1247
00:59:30,668 --> 00:59:33,302
The first player he
approached was Jimmy Vaughan.
1248
00:59:33,304 --> 00:59:36,572
He said, "No, I don't
want to play any rock."
1249
00:59:36,574 --> 00:59:37,973
"I'm done with rock.
1250
00:59:37,975 --> 00:59:40,342
"I'm just gonna play pure
blues and that's it."
1251
00:59:40,878 --> 00:59:42,311
"Okay," I said.
1252
00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:45,714
"I don't know if I'm just
gonna play Jimmy Reed."
1253
00:59:45,716 --> 00:59:47,549
"But I'm gonna play that far."
1254
00:59:47,551 --> 00:59:48,984
"No, no. That stuff you
play is rock and roll"
1255
00:59:48,986 --> 00:59:50,452
"compared to what I'm gonna do."
1256
00:59:50,454 --> 00:59:52,287
I thought, "Well that's
kind of an insult,"
1257
00:59:52,289 --> 00:59:53,522
but he's probably right.
1258
00:59:53,524 --> 00:59:55,524
He said, "But what
about my brother?"
1259
00:59:55,526 --> 00:59:58,627
Jimmy had me follow him
1260
00:59:58,629 --> 01:00:00,963
over to Mother Blues,
a club in Austin,
1261
01:00:00,965 --> 01:00:02,931
to see his brother playing.
1262
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:04,800
When I walked in, they
were already playing.
1263
01:00:04,802 --> 01:00:06,268
He was great
1264
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:07,836
and I thought, "Oh, that
probably could work".
1265
01:00:07,838 --> 01:00:10,238
Then what happened was,
1266
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,543
Jimmy had told Stevie,
"You better do it".
1267
01:00:14,545 --> 01:00:16,278
"This guy's got a contract."
1268
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,347
"If it was me I'd do it."
1269
01:00:18,349 --> 01:00:19,915
"Go to Hollywood, go."
1270
01:00:19,917 --> 01:00:21,049
And he did.
1271
01:00:21,652 --> 01:00:23,552
With Stevie on board,
1272
01:00:23,554 --> 01:00:25,721
Benno also enlisted ex Chessmen
1273
01:00:25,723 --> 01:00:27,489
Doyle Bramhall and
Billy Etheridge
1274
01:00:27,491 --> 01:00:29,558
into his new ensemble,
The Nightcrawlers.
1275
01:00:30,427 --> 01:00:32,594
At the close of March 1973,
1276
01:00:32,596 --> 01:00:34,329
the band flew to Los Angeles
1277
01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:35,964
and headed to
Sunset Sound Studios
1278
01:00:35,966 --> 01:00:36,932
in Hollywood,
1279
01:00:36,934 --> 01:00:38,467
to begin work on the album.
1280
01:00:39,069 --> 01:00:41,403
Brushing shoulders with an
array of musical legends,
1281
01:00:41,405 --> 01:00:43,472
and introuced to
the narcotic exesses
1282
01:00:43,474 --> 01:00:44,706
of the LA music scene,
1283
01:00:44,708 --> 01:00:46,408
Stevie Vaughan was thrust
1284
01:00:46,410 --> 01:00:48,543
into a totally new environment.
1285
01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:50,545
Yet, despite his lack
of studio experience,
1286
01:00:50,547 --> 01:00:52,347
the youngest member
of the ensemble
1287
01:00:52,349 --> 01:00:55,250
provided both consistency
and creativity.
1288
01:00:55,252 --> 01:00:57,953
He never ran out of
ideas or made mistakes.
1289
01:00:57,955 --> 01:01:00,422
There was no two takes for him.
1290
01:01:00,424 --> 01:01:02,591
We'd go in the studio and
we'd be trying something
1291
01:01:02,593 --> 01:01:04,493
he's playing along with
it, it'd be beautiful.
1292
01:01:04,495 --> 01:01:05,227
"You wanna do it again?"
1293
01:01:05,229 --> 01:01:06,361
"Okay."
1294
01:01:06,363 --> 01:01:07,262
He'd play something
else beautiful.
1295
01:01:07,264 --> 01:01:11,833
We never, ever did a second take
1296
01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:14,603
because Stevie was nervous
or something, made a mistake.
1297
01:01:14,605 --> 01:01:15,704
He was neither.
1298
01:01:15,706 --> 01:01:17,706
He would loosen us up.
1299
01:01:18,242 --> 01:01:19,708
He kept us loose.
1300
01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:22,244
Then he could play
such serious parts
1301
01:01:22,246 --> 01:01:24,613
that you'd hear them
and they just was ...
1302
01:01:24,615 --> 01:01:26,715
It burn your sideburns off.
1303
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,188
♪ Take me down easy
1304
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:35,590
♪ Take me down slow
1305
01:01:37,194 --> 01:01:39,828
♪ If you drive like that
1306
01:01:40,664 --> 01:01:43,265
♪ You may never want to go
1307
01:01:44,268 --> 01:01:47,769
♪ You take me down easy yeah
1308
01:01:48,072 --> 01:01:50,672
♪ You take me down slow
1309
01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:54,543
I think in the
recording department
1310
01:01:54,545 --> 01:01:58,413
we hear that Stevie
has refined his style.
1311
01:01:59,249 --> 01:02:01,316
He's not as haphazard.
1312
01:02:01,318 --> 01:02:03,652
He knows where he's going,
1313
01:02:03,654 --> 01:02:05,887
and he can get back
to where he came from
1314
01:02:05,889 --> 01:02:08,023
more easily in his solos.
1315
01:02:10,027 --> 01:02:13,428
Just a more
professional approach.
1316
01:02:14,431 --> 01:02:15,731
The
sessions for the album
1317
01:02:15,733 --> 01:02:17,132
not only showcased
1318
01:02:17,134 --> 01:02:19,167
Vaughan's growing stylistic
and technical abilities,
1319
01:02:19,169 --> 01:02:21,803
but also developed
previously untapped skills.
1320
01:02:22,372 --> 01:02:25,040
Although the project was
ostensibly a solo album
1321
01:02:25,042 --> 01:02:27,142
for singer and
songwriter Marc Benno,
1322
01:02:27,144 --> 01:02:28,610
he encouraged his band,
1323
01:02:28,612 --> 01:02:30,946
in particular Stevie
and Doyle Bramhall,
1324
01:02:30,948 --> 01:02:33,381
to collaborate in the
composition of certain tracks.
1325
01:02:33,751 --> 01:02:35,884
If I brought
anything to the table,
1326
01:02:35,886 --> 01:02:38,386
when I was a young guy,
I was a songwriter.
1327
01:02:38,388 --> 01:02:43,024
These guys began to see it in me
1328
01:02:43,026 --> 01:02:45,527
and take the suggestions
and ideas from me.
1329
01:02:45,529 --> 01:02:48,597
Which I had gotten from Leon,
1330
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:50,766
who's a brilliant sonngwriter.
1331
01:02:50,768 --> 01:02:55,771
JJ Cale, who began to
write these original tunes,
1332
01:02:55,873 --> 01:02:58,373
rather than just do Jimmy
Reed or somebody else's tunes,
1333
01:02:58,375 --> 01:03:00,542
so these guys picked up quick.
1334
01:03:00,544 --> 01:03:04,913
Like and as they were great
drummers, great guitar players,
1335
01:03:04,915 --> 01:03:08,450
they became great
songwriters immediately.
1336
01:03:08,452 --> 01:03:10,786
They'd pick that
stuff up, and go,
1337
01:03:10,788 --> 01:03:12,788
"Whoops, you're not gonna
need me much longer."
1338
01:03:31,008 --> 01:03:34,743
This was really
Stevie's first foray
1339
01:03:34,745 --> 01:03:36,344
into songwriting.
1340
01:03:36,346 --> 01:03:38,847
With a big help from Doyle.
1341
01:03:38,849 --> 01:03:40,282
They were good at it.
1342
01:03:40,284 --> 01:03:42,384
They were a good
songwriting team.
1343
01:03:42,386 --> 01:03:45,453
Dirty Pool ended up
being recorded by Stevie
1344
01:03:45,455 --> 01:03:46,822
on one of his albums.
1345
01:03:46,824 --> 01:03:49,624
It stayed one of the
staples of his stage show
1346
01:03:49,626 --> 01:03:51,526
really for the rest of his life.
1347
01:03:51,528 --> 01:03:55,964
He came out of the chute
with Doyle really fast
1348
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,901
and then the band
with Mark Benno,
1349
01:03:59,903 --> 01:04:01,803
also recorded a song
called Crawling.
1350
01:04:01,805 --> 01:04:04,272
That originated out
of an instrumental
1351
01:04:04,274 --> 01:04:05,807
that Stevie created.
1352
01:04:05,809 --> 01:04:08,577
The band itself put
together some lyrics
1353
01:04:08,579 --> 01:04:09,978
and the rest of the music.
1354
01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:13,982
Stevie, here at age 19,
1355
01:04:13,984 --> 01:04:15,984
has started songwriting.
1356
01:04:15,986 --> 01:04:19,087
He didn't really continue
it that we know of,
1357
01:04:19,089 --> 01:04:20,722
with little exception,
1358
01:04:20,724 --> 01:04:24,426
until he started his own
band about five years later.
1359
01:04:25,128 --> 01:04:30,165
♪ True love is gone
1360
01:04:33,303 --> 01:04:37,706
♪ And I was being
played for a fool
1361
01:04:40,244 --> 01:04:45,247
♪ Love, true love is gone
1362
01:04:48,685 --> 01:04:53,688
♪ And I was being
played for a fool
1363
01:04:57,694 --> 01:05:01,863
♪ I'm turnin' tables on you
1364
01:05:02,266 --> 01:05:07,269
♪ 'Coz you been
playin' dirty pool
1365
01:05:12,209 --> 01:05:14,442
♪ You said you'd call
the shots darlin'
1366
01:05:14,444 --> 01:05:16,211
When he would
do an interlude
1367
01:05:16,213 --> 01:05:18,413
or just anything on the record,
1368
01:05:18,415 --> 01:05:20,048
it would just jump
off the record.
1369
01:05:20,384 --> 01:05:22,417
I always had an expression that
1370
01:05:23,220 --> 01:05:25,854
the more of a
person that you are,
1371
01:05:25,856 --> 01:05:28,089
I don't know if
this is true or not,
1372
01:05:28,091 --> 01:05:29,324
but the more of a
person that you are
1373
01:05:29,326 --> 01:05:32,894
and the more substance
you have in your being,
1374
01:05:32,896 --> 01:05:34,462
then when you make that record,
1375
01:05:34,464 --> 01:05:36,698
it's like a thumbprint.
1376
01:05:37,301 --> 01:05:38,633
The bigger the print,
1377
01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:40,936
the bigger the
soul of the person.
1378
01:05:40,938 --> 01:05:42,604
He had such a big print,
1379
01:05:42,606 --> 01:05:45,340
that when he would play, "Whoa,"
1380
01:05:45,342 --> 01:05:47,542
"it would just jump off
the record to everything."
1381
01:05:47,544 --> 01:05:49,244
You'd go, "Well there he is".
1382
01:05:49,947 --> 01:05:51,046
The same with Doyle,
1383
01:05:51,048 --> 01:05:53,148
Doyle's voice
would just be huge.
1384
01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:54,416
Now you have some people,
1385
01:05:54,418 --> 01:05:56,384
with a great voice go
in to record a record,
1386
01:05:56,386 --> 01:05:58,386
the presence is not there,
1387
01:05:58,388 --> 01:06:00,021
the soul is not there,
1388
01:06:00,023 --> 01:06:02,057
the person,
something's not there.
1389
01:06:02,059 --> 01:06:03,491
I call it the print.
1390
01:06:04,127 --> 01:06:08,263
Both of these guys
had gigantic prints.
1391
01:06:09,232 --> 01:06:10,966
Despite
the obvious talents
1392
01:06:10,968 --> 01:06:12,934
of the players he'd
selected for these sessions,
1393
01:06:12,936 --> 01:06:15,570
when Benno delivered the
results to A&M Records,
1394
01:06:15,572 --> 01:06:17,405
they were disapoointed
by the recordings
1395
01:06:17,407 --> 01:06:18,907
and lost interest
in the project.
1396
01:06:19,843 --> 01:06:21,643
During the summer of 1973,
1397
01:06:21,645 --> 01:06:23,311
the band briefly hit the road
1398
01:06:23,313 --> 01:06:25,113
as Mark Benno and
the Nightcrawlers,
1399
01:06:25,115 --> 01:06:27,816
and played a series of
shows supporting Humble Pie.
1400
01:06:28,485 --> 01:06:30,051
Yet, their drink
and drug comsumption
1401
01:06:30,053 --> 01:06:31,453
was now out of control.
1402
01:06:31,455 --> 01:06:33,254
They were dropped from the tour.
1403
01:06:33,256 --> 01:06:35,857
Benno made his way
back to Los Angeles
1404
01:06:35,859 --> 01:06:37,659
in an attempt to
rebuild his career,
1405
01:06:37,661 --> 01:06:39,327
while Vaughan and the
other band members
1406
01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:40,528
returned to Austin.
1407
01:06:41,431 --> 01:06:42,964
They stayed together, however,
1408
01:06:42,966 --> 01:06:44,866
and continued to play
as The Nightcrawlers,
1409
01:06:44,868 --> 01:06:47,569
with Doyle Bramhall taking
over as the frontman.
1410
01:06:47,571 --> 01:06:49,137
Yet, unlike Blackbird,
1411
01:06:49,139 --> 01:06:50,939
they had little interest
in the rock circuit
1412
01:06:50,941 --> 01:06:53,108
and the band settled
into a residency
1413
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:54,342
at the One Knite Club.
1414
01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:56,378
Stevie Vaughan was now a part
1415
01:06:56,380 --> 01:06:58,346
of Austin's marginal
blues scene.
1416
01:06:59,683 --> 01:07:01,683
At one point,
Marc Benno left.
1417
01:07:01,685 --> 01:07:04,185
They became just
The Nightcrawlers,
1418
01:07:04,187 --> 01:07:06,888
a quartet with Doyle and Stevie,
1419
01:07:07,524 --> 01:07:10,725
Bruce Miller, Billy
Etheridge on keyboards.
1420
01:07:10,727 --> 01:07:12,527
They played around Austin,
1421
01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:14,262
and they played around Texas.
1422
01:07:15,032 --> 01:07:17,098
Played in Dallas,
all over the place.
1423
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,701
I roded for The Nightcrawlers.
1424
01:07:19,703 --> 01:07:22,203
As far as Stevie's
technical abilities,
1425
01:07:22,205 --> 01:07:23,905
he was always great.
1426
01:07:23,907 --> 01:07:26,374
He always had great
technical ability.
1427
01:07:26,376 --> 01:07:29,844
He just got more and more
intense and more refined.
1428
01:07:29,846 --> 01:07:31,212
The Nightcrawlers
1429
01:07:31,214 --> 01:07:32,981
was the first time
I heard Stevie
1430
01:07:32,983 --> 01:07:35,784
start to sound more
like a blues player
1431
01:07:35,786 --> 01:07:37,085
than a rock player.
1432
01:07:37,087 --> 01:07:38,787
He had gotten hold of a,
1433
01:07:39,423 --> 01:07:41,322
I believe it was
a Howard Roberts
1434
01:07:42,826 --> 01:07:44,659
hollow body electric guitar,
1435
01:07:44,661 --> 01:07:47,629
which has a very fat body.
1436
01:07:47,631 --> 01:07:50,565
He was learning to
play Wes Montgomery
1437
01:07:50,567 --> 01:07:52,233
Octave Runs
1438
01:07:52,302 --> 01:07:53,768
and he was getting that,
1439
01:07:53,770 --> 01:07:56,738
there's a song called
Chitlins Con Carne.
1440
01:07:56,740 --> 01:07:58,540
I don't remember who did it,
1441
01:07:58,542 --> 01:07:59,974
but Stevie learned it.
1442
01:07:59,976 --> 01:08:03,211
He sounded like a man with
a Howard Roberts guitar,
1443
01:08:03,213 --> 01:08:05,046
not a man with a rock guitar.
1444
01:08:05,048 --> 01:08:06,247
That's the first time
1445
01:08:06,249 --> 01:08:08,483
I heard Stevie as
a blues player.
1446
01:08:09,386 --> 01:08:11,386
Although
Vaughan remained on and off
1447
01:08:11,388 --> 01:08:13,855
with The Nightcrawlers
for over a year,
1448
01:08:13,857 --> 01:08:16,391
in Austin, the blues scene
still had a very limited appeal
1449
01:08:16,393 --> 01:08:18,726
and the band struggled
to gain popularity.
1450
01:08:18,728 --> 01:08:21,329
Yet in December 1974,
1451
01:08:21,331 --> 01:08:23,364
they supported an
Austin ensemble,
1452
01:08:23,366 --> 01:08:25,700
who was successfully bringing
blues and roots music
1453
01:08:25,702 --> 01:08:28,703
into larger venues,
Paul Ray and The Cobras.
1454
01:08:29,172 --> 01:08:31,539
Featuring two ex-members
of Jimmy Vaughan's
1455
01:08:31,541 --> 01:08:32,974
earlier group, Storm,
1456
01:08:32,976 --> 01:08:36,010
this band represented a
possible next step for Stevie.
1457
01:08:36,646 --> 01:08:38,847
In the 70s,
Paul Ray and The Cobras
1458
01:08:38,849 --> 01:08:42,016
were top of the heap in Austin.
1459
01:08:42,018 --> 01:08:43,384
They were the
hottest band in town.
1460
01:08:43,386 --> 01:08:46,821
The music they played
was rhythm and blues.
1461
01:08:48,825 --> 01:08:50,458
It was easy to dance to.
1462
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,127
That brought the girls in
1463
01:08:52,129 --> 01:08:54,362
and the girls
brought the guys in
1464
01:08:54,364 --> 01:08:57,031
but it was the music that
held it all together.
1465
01:08:57,033 --> 01:09:00,001
The Cobras were the best.
1466
01:09:00,003 --> 01:09:01,469
It was a New
Year's Eve in Dallas,
1467
01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:03,605
we were playing in a
place called Taco Flats.
1468
01:09:03,607 --> 01:09:04,906
We had a deal
1469
01:09:04,908 --> 01:09:06,641
where the Nightcrawlers
were opening.
1470
01:09:06,643 --> 01:09:09,410
During the break between bands,
1471
01:09:09,412 --> 01:09:11,446
Stevie came up and said,
"Can I play with you guys?"
1472
01:09:11,448 --> 01:09:13,281
I went "Sure. Of course."
1473
01:09:13,283 --> 01:09:15,483
"We could use
another instrument."
1474
01:09:15,485 --> 01:09:17,285
That's how he got
up on the stage
1475
01:09:17,287 --> 01:09:19,821
and started playing and
everything just picked up.
1476
01:09:22,492 --> 01:09:25,293
It was just, he fit.
1477
01:09:26,163 --> 01:09:29,964
He was so differential to everybody,
and so genuine and all.
1478
01:09:29,966 --> 01:09:33,268
He didn't have any
sort of an attitude,
1479
01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:35,403
he wanted to just keep playing.
1480
01:09:35,405 --> 01:09:36,671
He's ready to play some more.
1481
01:09:36,673 --> 01:09:38,673
Kid was phenomenal.
1482
01:09:38,675 --> 01:09:39,774
To be honest,
1483
01:09:39,776 --> 01:09:41,009
I was going, "Well, gosh."
1484
01:09:41,011 --> 01:09:42,844
"I've been carrying
it for a year,"
1485
01:09:42,846 --> 01:09:45,180
"and it kind of would be nice"
1486
01:09:45,182 --> 01:09:48,216
"to have, maybe a
piano player really."
1487
01:09:48,218 --> 01:09:53,221
But I really liked Stevie,
and he was real good.
1488
01:09:54,491 --> 01:09:55,790
He was younger than me,
1489
01:09:55,792 --> 01:09:57,692
but he was a really good player.
1490
01:09:57,694 --> 01:10:01,296
Besides that, everybody else
wanted Stevie in the band.
1491
01:10:01,298 --> 01:10:02,730
Why wouldn't you?
1492
01:10:02,732 --> 01:10:05,466
He always was really nice to me.
1493
01:10:05,468 --> 01:10:06,868
He treated me with respect,
1494
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:08,269
and I treated him with respect.
1495
01:10:08,271 --> 01:10:10,905
We supported each other,
and so it actually
1496
01:10:10,907 --> 01:10:13,708
worked out good.
1497
01:10:14,978 --> 01:10:16,844
Stevie's
inclusion in The Cobras
1498
01:10:16,846 --> 01:10:19,547
propelled the band to
even greater popularity.
1499
01:10:20,217 --> 01:10:23,051
By March 1975, they
began a residency
1500
01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:24,485
at the Soap Creek Saloon.
1501
01:10:24,487 --> 01:10:27,055
Here they would
develp a reputation
1502
01:10:27,057 --> 01:10:28,890
as one of the most exciting
acts on the Austin circuit.
1503
01:10:28,892 --> 01:10:31,092
With Vaughan and Denny
Freeman's incendiary
1504
01:10:31,094 --> 01:10:32,527
and complementary guitar work,
1505
01:10:32,529 --> 01:10:34,329
a highlight for audiences.
1506
01:10:35,332 --> 01:10:37,165
While they were
expanding their fan base,
1507
01:10:37,167 --> 01:10:38,967
a new venue appeared
in the city,
1508
01:10:38,969 --> 01:10:41,102
that single-handedly
pulled blues music
1509
01:10:41,104 --> 01:10:42,570
back into the spotlight.
1510
01:10:42,906 --> 01:10:46,140
Antone's Nightclub, dubbed
Austin's home of the blues,
1511
01:10:46,142 --> 01:10:48,977
opened on July 15th, 1975.
1512
01:10:48,979 --> 01:10:50,712
Its owner, Clifford Antone,
1513
01:10:50,714 --> 01:10:51,980
looking to establish a setting
1514
01:10:51,982 --> 01:10:54,148
where the greatest names
on the national scene
1515
01:10:54,150 --> 01:10:56,684
could play alongside less
established local talent.
1516
01:10:56,686 --> 01:10:59,721
Almost overnight, it
changed everything.
1517
01:11:01,024 --> 01:11:02,724
The importance
and the significance
1518
01:11:02,726 --> 01:11:05,693
of Antone's Nightclub, it
couldn't be exaggerated.
1519
01:11:05,695 --> 01:11:09,063
It was a great place
for blues and for Austin
1520
01:11:09,065 --> 01:11:11,366
because if you're into
what we were into,
1521
01:11:11,368 --> 01:11:13,268
it was the cream of the crop
1522
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:16,671
that was playing here at
Antone's, little Austin.
1523
01:11:16,673 --> 01:11:18,573
Clifford Antone
tried to make it really easy
1524
01:11:18,575 --> 01:11:20,375
by having people stay there,
1525
01:11:20,377 --> 01:11:21,576
maybe as long as a week,
1526
01:11:21,578 --> 01:11:24,312
make it worth their
while to drive down.
1527
01:11:25,849 --> 01:11:28,549
A lot of people don't like
to fly, or couldn't afford,
1528
01:11:28,551 --> 01:11:29,584
or whatever,
1529
01:11:29,586 --> 01:11:31,686
so it was hugely important.
1530
01:11:31,688 --> 01:11:33,288
Then for all the rest of us,
1531
01:11:33,290 --> 01:11:34,989
it was like blues college,
1532
01:11:34,991 --> 01:11:38,326
to get to know all
of your heroes.
1533
01:11:39,129 --> 01:11:39,961
Before that,
1534
01:11:39,963 --> 01:11:41,429
I had to go to Chicago
1535
01:11:41,431 --> 01:11:43,298
because I wanted to hear
1536
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:47,935
Howlin' Wolf and Magic Sam
and Otis Rush and Muddy.
1537
01:11:47,937 --> 01:11:51,339
I got to meet some of
those people and everything
1538
01:11:51,341 --> 01:11:53,641
but it's rather inconvenient
1539
01:11:53,643 --> 01:11:57,412
to go all the way to Chicago,
to hear Chicago blues.
1540
01:11:57,414 --> 01:11:59,981
It was a huge
support for all of us
1541
01:11:59,983 --> 01:12:03,484
who really did take
blues seriously
1542
01:12:03,486 --> 01:12:06,921
and realize, because we'd
done enough playing around
1543
01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:10,792
that it wasn't in demand.
1544
01:12:10,794 --> 01:12:12,960
It had gone off of the radio.
1545
01:12:12,962 --> 01:12:15,229
There were no longer
blues shows on the radio.
1546
01:12:15,231 --> 01:12:17,165
None of that kind of support.
1547
01:12:17,167 --> 01:12:19,667
People just didn't think
1548
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:22,136
it was hip or cool
or anyhting else.
1549
01:12:22,138 --> 01:12:23,705
You've got a club owner
1550
01:12:23,707 --> 01:12:26,140
that's willing to basically
underwrite all of this
1551
01:12:26,142 --> 01:12:27,909
and that's a big difference.
1552
01:12:27,911 --> 01:12:30,578
You're not playing
little shitholes anymore.
1553
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:32,747
The one night's no
longer good enough.
1554
01:12:33,483 --> 01:12:37,885
Antone's university is what
built the blues scene here
1555
01:12:37,887 --> 01:12:39,020
and what made possible
1556
01:12:39,923 --> 01:12:41,823
the success of
Stevie Ray Vaughan
1557
01:12:41,825 --> 01:12:44,892
as well as many other
blues players out of here.
1558
01:12:45,729 --> 01:12:47,562
With the club
booking Muddy Waters,
1559
01:12:47,564 --> 01:12:49,530
John Lee Hooker,
Lightin' Hopkins,
1560
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:50,765
and the who's who
1561
01:12:50,767 --> 01:12:52,700
of the greatest living
blues players available,
1562
01:12:52,702 --> 01:12:53,901
it soon became a venue
1563
01:12:53,903 --> 01:12:55,403
of international renown.
1564
01:12:55,405 --> 01:12:57,338
As the white Austin musicians
1565
01:12:57,340 --> 01:12:59,640
began to sit in
with these legends
1566
01:12:59,642 --> 01:13:01,709
it enabled them to develop
their own techniques.
1567
01:13:01,711 --> 01:13:03,177
In some cases,
1568
01:13:03,179 --> 01:13:05,346
to build friendships they'd
previously had only dreamed of.
1569
01:13:05,949 --> 01:13:08,383
Back in the
early days of Antone's,
1570
01:13:08,385 --> 01:13:09,650
we had Albert King.
1571
01:13:11,254 --> 01:13:14,922
Albert was one of those
really serious guys.
1572
01:13:14,924 --> 01:13:16,991
Didn't take any fooling around.
1573
01:13:16,993 --> 01:13:21,162
He never felt gratitude
1574
01:13:21,164 --> 01:13:23,431
that white people had
finally come to the party
1575
01:13:23,433 --> 01:13:26,567
and started attending
blues shows and so forth.
1576
01:13:27,137 --> 01:13:28,336
It was one afternoon,
1577
01:13:28,338 --> 01:13:31,572
and I know Clifford.
1578
01:13:31,574 --> 01:13:34,909
Clifford just realized how
much it would mean to Stevie
1579
01:13:34,911 --> 01:13:36,778
being a huge Albert fan,
1580
01:13:37,647 --> 01:13:41,949
if maybe, maybe he would let
him go up on stage with him.
1581
01:13:41,951 --> 01:13:46,020
That night, Albert's up on
stage wailing of course,
1582
01:13:46,022 --> 01:13:49,056
and he gets little
Stevie up there with him.
1583
01:13:50,059 --> 01:13:53,761
Well, in a very short while,
1584
01:13:53,763 --> 01:13:55,930
he realized that Stevie was,
1585
01:13:55,932 --> 01:14:00,902
half of Stevie's
playing was in agilation
1586
01:14:01,271 --> 01:14:03,171
of his own style.
1587
01:14:04,674 --> 01:14:08,509
I've never seen such a big
smile on Albert King's face.
1588
01:14:09,412 --> 01:14:11,512
Well, of course,
everybody was thrilled
1589
01:14:11,514 --> 01:14:13,881
and especially
thrilled for Stevie.
1590
01:14:13,883 --> 01:14:18,653
They went on to be
great friends.
1591
01:14:18,655 --> 01:14:20,988
That was a wonderful
moment at Antone's.
1592
01:14:26,963 --> 01:14:28,529
With the
Austin blues scene
1593
01:14:28,531 --> 01:14:31,299
given a much needed injection
of energy through this venue,
1594
01:14:31,301 --> 01:14:32,867
over the next year and a half,
1595
01:14:32,869 --> 01:14:34,469
Paul Ray and The Cobras remained
1596
01:14:34,471 --> 01:14:36,904
one of the most exciting
local acts on the circuit.
1597
01:14:36,906 --> 01:14:39,407
Eclipsed only by Jimmy
Vaughan's new outfit,
1598
01:14:39,409 --> 01:14:41,108
The Thunderbirds, who had become
1599
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:43,945
the house band at Antone's
soon after their formation.
1600
01:14:43,947 --> 01:14:47,381
Yet, in an attempt to spread
their appeal outside of Austin,
1601
01:14:47,383 --> 01:14:51,352
it was The Cobras who first
entered the studio in late 1976
1602
01:14:51,354 --> 01:14:53,488
to produce a 7-inch single.
1603
01:14:53,490 --> 01:14:55,089
With Paul
Ray and The Cobras,
1604
01:14:55,091 --> 01:14:56,524
Stevie got another opportunity
1605
01:14:56,526 --> 01:14:58,893
to go into the recording studio.
1606
01:14:59,062 --> 01:15:00,761
The band recorded two songs.
1607
01:15:00,763 --> 01:15:04,098
Texas Clover, and the
other was Other Days.
1608
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:07,502
The recording was
made, essentially,
1609
01:15:07,504 --> 01:15:09,403
as a business card for the band.
1610
01:15:09,405 --> 01:15:10,905
They needed to be able
1611
01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:14,208
to give a demo or something
to promoters and club owners
1612
01:15:14,210 --> 01:15:16,811
to show them what
the band could do,
1613
01:15:16,813 --> 01:15:19,547
and so that was
the primary purpose
1614
01:15:19,549 --> 01:15:20,815
of having this record.
1615
01:15:20,817 --> 01:15:22,884
♪ Other days
1616
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:28,256
♪ I see the sun looking to shine
1617
01:15:30,326 --> 01:15:35,363
♪ Other ways
1618
01:15:36,466 --> 01:15:38,366
♪ But from my mind
1619
01:15:39,369 --> 01:15:42,470
♪ What can I say
1620
01:15:43,773 --> 01:15:45,306
♪ Your
1621
01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:47,808
♪ Should be so kind
1622
01:15:47,810 --> 01:15:50,711
Back then it was
like a calling card.
1623
01:15:50,713 --> 01:15:52,914
Back then you gave
them your record.
1624
01:15:52,916 --> 01:15:54,348
"Here, here's my record."
1625
01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:56,384
On the other day aside,
1626
01:15:56,386 --> 01:15:58,753
Stevie just takes off.
1627
01:16:00,056 --> 01:16:02,790
There was a space for him
and he just jumped at it
1628
01:16:02,792 --> 01:16:05,660
and took off playing that solo.
1629
01:16:24,247 --> 01:16:26,747
Stevie played a
nice solo on Other Days.
1630
01:16:26,749 --> 01:16:28,950
I'm just not sure that
it was that exciting
1631
01:16:28,952 --> 01:16:30,451
a performance over all.
1632
01:16:30,453 --> 01:16:33,087
The song on the other side,
1633
01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:34,488
it was an interesting song.
1634
01:16:34,490 --> 01:16:36,324
Paul Ray had written a
song called Texas Clover,
1635
01:16:36,326 --> 01:16:37,725
and it was a nice song.
1636
01:16:37,727 --> 01:16:39,594
It was almost kind of country,
1637
01:16:39,596 --> 01:16:41,262
the way he originally wrote it,
1638
01:16:41,264 --> 01:16:43,097
and we were just
messing around with it,
1639
01:16:43,099 --> 01:16:44,231
trying to figure out -
1640
01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,267
Paul wrote it on
an acoustic guitar,
1641
01:16:46,269 --> 01:16:48,002
and we were trying to figure
out what to do with it
1642
01:16:48,004 --> 01:16:51,405
and I remember
saying, Stevie saying,
1643
01:16:51,407 --> 01:16:54,842
"Let's try it with
a reggae beat".
1644
01:16:55,778 --> 01:16:57,511
I remember going,
1645
01:16:57,513 --> 01:16:59,747
"Let's do. Good idea."
1646
01:16:59,749 --> 01:17:04,752
♪ Getting
down that old highway
1647
01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:09,724
♪ When I should be on that
1648
01:17:09,726 --> 01:17:11,525
♪ Just do roll
1649
01:17:11,527 --> 01:17:16,564
♪ Looking for
something going my way
1650
01:17:17,567 --> 01:17:22,503
♪ I'm getting
1651
01:17:22,505 --> 01:17:25,106
The covers
single was significant
1652
01:17:25,108 --> 01:17:26,207
because it was a single.
1653
01:17:26,209 --> 01:17:27,308
It was a local product.
1654
01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:29,577
It wasn't like the 60s,
1655
01:17:29,579 --> 01:17:31,946
when every band was cutting 45s,
1656
01:17:31,948 --> 01:17:33,614
this was a different
kind of environment.
1657
01:17:33,616 --> 01:17:35,683
There was no music
business in Ausitn.
1658
01:17:35,685 --> 01:17:39,020
There was like, a couple
of recording studios
1659
01:17:39,022 --> 01:17:40,521
that were okay.
1660
01:17:40,523 --> 01:17:42,089
People weren't making a whole
lot of records out of here.
1661
01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,525
This was a live
scene, a live town.
1662
01:17:44,527 --> 01:17:45,793
Well, they made a single.
1663
01:17:45,795 --> 01:17:48,663
To me, it was okay.
1664
01:17:48,665 --> 01:17:50,765
It got a little bit
of a local airplay.
1665
01:17:52,502 --> 01:17:54,135
The general impression was,
1666
01:17:54,137 --> 01:17:55,870
"Yeah, it's good they've
got a record out,"
1667
01:17:55,872 --> 01:17:57,304
"but that ain't the band."
1668
01:17:57,306 --> 01:17:59,006
If you wan to go
hear The Cobras,
1669
01:17:59,008 --> 01:18:00,641
go hear The Cobras live.
1670
01:18:00,643 --> 01:18:02,243
As The Cobras, live,
1671
01:18:02,245 --> 01:18:03,978
were going from
strength to strength,
1672
01:18:03,980 --> 01:18:06,247
their victory in the
Austin Sun reader's poll
1673
01:18:06,249 --> 01:18:09,684
in March 1977, in which they
were named Band of the Year,
1674
01:18:09,686 --> 01:18:12,353
secured them better pay
and bigger audiences.
1675
01:18:12,355 --> 01:18:15,222
For Stevie Vaughan,
their performances
1676
01:18:15,224 --> 01:18:18,125
were not only showcasing his
virtuosity as a guitarist,
1677
01:18:18,127 --> 01:18:19,593
but over time,
1678
01:18:19,595 --> 01:18:22,630
were also allowing him space
to develop as a vocalist.
1679
01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:25,499
I think he learned
a lot in The Cobras.
1680
01:18:25,501 --> 01:18:28,269
I think it was kind of like
graduate school for him
1681
01:18:28,271 --> 01:18:31,806
because I don't think he'd
ever sung with a band.
1682
01:18:31,808 --> 01:18:34,041
I don't think he'd
ever fronted a band.
1683
01:18:34,944 --> 01:18:37,611
The way I had it set
up, me and Denny,
1684
01:18:37,613 --> 01:18:39,580
we wanted it to
be like a review.
1685
01:18:41,451 --> 01:18:44,952
It'd be Denny instrumental,
Stevie instrumental,
1686
01:18:44,954 --> 01:18:46,454
Rodney were to sing.
1687
01:18:47,457 --> 01:18:48,889
Then they'd bring me up
1688
01:18:48,891 --> 01:18:51,425
and I'd do the rest of the set.
1689
01:18:52,862 --> 01:18:55,463
That's where Stevie
learned to front a band
1690
01:18:55,465 --> 01:18:57,465
and do all that.
1691
01:18:57,467 --> 01:19:00,768
♪ I said all
you kids from Texas
1692
01:19:01,537 --> 01:19:04,138
♪ Grow so big and tall
1693
01:19:04,941 --> 01:19:07,708
♪ All you kids from Texas
1694
01:19:08,211 --> 01:19:10,845
♪ Grow so big and tall
1695
01:19:11,347 --> 01:19:16,350
♪ All of you like to
roam in that g-bird hall
1696
01:19:18,354 --> 01:19:20,855
♪ Get high, everybody get high
1697
01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:23,257
To me, it was
just kind of obvious
1698
01:19:23,259 --> 01:19:25,860
that he had tried
to learn from Doyle.
1699
01:19:25,862 --> 01:19:28,129
I mean, he'd played
with Doyle a lot
1700
01:19:28,131 --> 01:19:29,363
when Doyle was singing.
1701
01:19:29,365 --> 01:19:32,433
Doyle was, we thought
a great singer,
1702
01:19:32,435 --> 01:19:35,402
and Stevie could carry a tune,
1703
01:19:35,404 --> 01:19:39,006
and it was a manly voice -
1704
01:19:40,443 --> 01:19:43,244
I'd be real happy if I
could sing that well.
1705
01:19:44,447 --> 01:19:47,414
I thought it was
good, it was good.
1706
01:19:47,416 --> 01:19:48,983
Plenty good enough.
1707
01:19:49,085 --> 01:19:51,886
♪ Get high, high, high
1708
01:19:51,988 --> 01:19:55,256
♪ Way up in the sky
1709
01:19:55,258 --> 01:19:58,459
♪ Really want to move and groove
1710
01:19:58,461 --> 01:20:02,163
♪ Like you love to do
1711
01:20:02,365 --> 01:20:04,298
Stevie sang with authority.
1712
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:07,802
I always thought that
he sang with authority.
1713
01:20:07,804 --> 01:20:10,738
From the word go, you know?
1714
01:20:11,407 --> 01:20:13,440
By mid 1977,
1715
01:20:13,442 --> 01:20:15,142
Vaughan had grown
sufficiently confident
1716
01:20:15,144 --> 01:20:16,310
fronting The Cobras
1717
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:18,145
that he decided it
was time to move on.
1718
01:20:18,147 --> 01:20:20,147
After years of
weaving in and out
1719
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:21,348
of other people's bands,
1720
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:23,684
he was now ready
to form his own.
1721
01:20:24,487 --> 01:20:26,787
He always
was looking ahead,
1722
01:20:26,789 --> 01:20:29,990
and trying to figure
out what to do.
1723
01:20:29,992 --> 01:20:34,161
He realized, "You
know, I should sing."
1724
01:20:35,064 --> 01:20:37,531
"And I should put the
pressure on myself"
1725
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:41,135
"to just do that,
and have a tie band."
1726
01:20:41,804 --> 01:20:44,071
I really admired that
1727
01:20:44,073 --> 01:20:47,041
and that's actually,
he came to me and said,
1728
01:20:48,311 --> 01:20:49,977
"How do I start singing?"
1729
01:20:49,979 --> 01:20:52,213
"How do I do this?"
1730
01:20:52,915 --> 01:20:54,481
I think he knew he could,
1731
01:20:54,483 --> 01:20:57,051
he just sort of needed
some suggestions.
1732
01:20:58,187 --> 01:21:01,422
Well, I told him,
"Pick a favorite song."
1733
01:21:02,658 --> 01:21:05,426
"Just start with one
song, and do it."
1734
01:21:05,428 --> 01:21:07,294
Of course he picked Texas Flood,
1735
01:21:07,296 --> 01:21:10,698
which I'd been singing
for a few years
1736
01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:13,100
and haven't been
able to sing since.
1737
01:21:13,102 --> 01:21:14,935
Since it became his song.
1738
01:21:14,937 --> 01:21:17,771
I thought that was the
most practical suggestion.
1739
01:21:17,773 --> 01:21:21,242
Pick something you like
and just go for it.
1740
01:21:21,244 --> 01:21:23,244
He came up to
me at a rehearsal
1741
01:21:23,813 --> 01:21:27,147
and he said, "Well I'm thinking
of getting my own band".
1742
01:21:27,149 --> 01:21:30,284
I said, "I think you should,
I mean you're a star."
1743
01:21:30,286 --> 01:21:31,952
"You know how to lead a band,"
1744
01:21:31,954 --> 01:21:35,990
"and you've got all that
stuff you wanna play,"
1745
01:21:35,992 --> 01:21:38,859
"and I think it's a great idea."
1746
01:21:38,861 --> 01:21:40,494
I think all of us knew
1747
01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:42,463
that at some point he was
gonna have to do that.
1748
01:21:42,465 --> 01:21:44,632
Nobody really knew when,
1749
01:21:44,634 --> 01:21:49,103
but I think all of
us, I think everybody,
1750
01:21:49,105 --> 01:21:51,805
was just kind of waiting for
him to be ready to go out
1751
01:21:51,807 --> 01:21:53,540
and be Stevie Ray Vaughan.
1752
01:21:56,178 --> 01:22:00,814
We just said, "Go do it".
1753
01:22:02,184 --> 01:22:03,484
In forming the band,
1754
01:22:03,486 --> 01:22:05,653
which he would call The
Triple Threat Review,
1755
01:22:05,655 --> 01:22:07,054
rather than assemble
1756
01:22:07,056 --> 01:22:09,323
whichever Austin players
were available at the time,
1757
01:22:09,325 --> 01:22:11,926
Vaughan decided to
handpick his ensemble.
1758
01:22:11,928 --> 01:22:14,361
He approached
pianist Mike Kindred,
1759
01:22:14,363 --> 01:22:16,931
drummer Freddie Walden,
singer Lou Ann Barton,
1760
01:22:16,933 --> 01:22:19,133
and Austin blues
legend WC Clark,
1761
01:22:19,135 --> 01:22:21,502
and successfully convinced
them all to join him.
1762
01:22:21,971 --> 01:22:24,338
That was a pretty
big leap for him.
1763
01:22:24,774 --> 01:22:27,641
It was very ballsy for him to go
1764
01:22:27,643 --> 01:22:32,613
approach WC Clark
at Ford,
1765
01:22:32,615 --> 01:22:34,214
where WC had his day job,
1766
01:22:34,216 --> 01:22:36,350
and here was a guy
that was a soul singer,
1767
01:22:36,352 --> 01:22:39,653
blues singer, a black
man from east Austin,
1768
01:22:39,655 --> 01:22:41,121
that had had success.
1769
01:22:41,123 --> 01:22:42,856
He'd seen the world,
1770
01:22:42,858 --> 01:22:45,292
and here's this
scrawny little kid,
1771
01:22:45,294 --> 01:22:48,629
saying, "I want to start a
band and I want you in it".
1772
01:22:48,631 --> 01:22:51,899
Balls, big balls.
1773
01:22:51,901 --> 01:22:54,802
It's possible to
characterize Triple Theat Review
1774
01:22:55,538 --> 01:22:57,504
as a sort of Texas supergroup.
1775
01:22:57,506 --> 01:22:59,606
He'd heard about Lou Ann Barton.
1776
01:22:59,608 --> 01:23:02,409
She was a great blues
singer out of Fort Worth
1777
01:23:02,411 --> 01:23:04,845
and he knew WC Clark.
1778
01:23:04,847 --> 01:23:08,682
WC had been in a band
called Southern Feeling
1779
01:23:08,684 --> 01:23:11,085
with Angela Strehli and others.
1780
01:23:11,087 --> 01:23:13,420
Stevie brought all of
these elements together
1781
01:23:13,422 --> 01:23:16,123
from these other bands
and other parts of Texas
1782
01:23:16,125 --> 01:23:18,325
into one cohesive unit.
1783
01:23:21,364 --> 01:23:23,931
This unit, Triple
Threat, was heavily inspired
1784
01:23:23,933 --> 01:23:26,500
by the review format of
Paul Ray and The Cobras,
1785
01:23:26,502 --> 01:23:28,502
in which every member of
the band had their time
1786
01:23:28,504 --> 01:23:30,004
in the spotlight.
1787
01:23:30,072 --> 01:23:32,673
Although he would be handling
some of the vocals, himself,
1788
01:23:32,675 --> 01:23:35,542
Stevie looked to both WC
Clark and Lou Ann Barton
1789
01:23:35,544 --> 01:23:37,544
to take the majority
of the lead parts.
1790
01:23:37,546 --> 01:23:40,681
When the band debuted
in August 1977,
1791
01:23:40,683 --> 01:23:43,450
they immediately made their
mark on the Austin circuit,
1792
01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:45,853
in particular,
the sultry Barton.
1793
01:23:46,455 --> 01:23:49,623
She was just a
sassy little sex kitten
1794
01:23:49,625 --> 01:23:50,691
that could sing.
1795
01:23:50,693 --> 01:23:53,293
She was just a force, you know?
1796
01:23:55,231 --> 01:24:00,167
You couldn't help but
acknowledge it when you saw her.
1797
01:24:00,936 --> 01:24:03,504
We're gonna do
a song now, the blues,
1798
01:24:03,506 --> 01:24:06,473
featuring Stevie
Vaughan on slide guitar,
1799
01:24:06,475 --> 01:24:09,943
called, "Will My Man
Be Home Tonight?".
1800
01:24:16,252 --> 01:24:17,785
One, two, three.
1801
01:24:24,393 --> 01:24:27,528
♪ Wonder why
1802
01:24:30,833 --> 01:24:35,602
♪ Why my man don't
treat me right
1803
01:24:42,244 --> 01:24:45,512
♪ Wonder why
1804
01:24:48,851 --> 01:24:53,387
♪ Why my man don't
treat me right ♪
1805
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:56,623
On opening night,
I went to see them,
1806
01:24:56,625 --> 01:24:58,425
and I was just
blown away at how,
1807
01:24:59,862 --> 01:25:03,897
obviously not rehearsed too much
1808
01:25:03,899 --> 01:25:06,667
and just enough to
"You know that song?"
1809
01:25:06,669 --> 01:25:07,568
"You know, okay."
1810
01:25:07,570 --> 01:25:09,136
"It's in this key and -"
1811
01:25:09,138 --> 01:25:11,371
but it knocked me out.
1812
01:25:11,974 --> 01:25:15,943
There was three-part
harmony when they needed it
1813
01:25:15,945 --> 01:25:19,813
but also everybody got
their shot out front.
1814
01:25:19,815 --> 01:25:22,683
It was a great band.
1815
01:25:24,153 --> 01:25:25,486
Yet, over
the coming months,
1816
01:25:25,488 --> 01:25:27,454
despite their
prestigious lineup,
1817
01:25:27,456 --> 01:25:29,790
the band struggled to
make too much of an impact
1818
01:25:29,792 --> 01:25:31,859
on a scene dominated
by Jimmy Vaughan's
1819
01:25:31,861 --> 01:25:33,927
now-seasoned Fabulous
Thunderbirds,
1820
01:25:33,929 --> 01:25:35,629
and the ever-popular Cobras.
1821
01:25:35,631 --> 01:25:37,898
They weren't
that successful.
1822
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:40,601
Again, this is like,
on a good night,
1823
01:25:40,603 --> 01:25:44,138
can pull in maybe
150, 200 people
1824
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:47,141
to some place like
Austecks or After Hours
1825
01:25:47,143 --> 01:25:49,042
or maybe the Continental Club.
1826
01:25:49,745 --> 01:25:52,045
Let me put it in this context,
1827
01:25:52,047 --> 01:25:55,048
on Monday night,
the Thunderbirds
1828
01:25:55,050 --> 01:25:58,619
had the hottest little
weekly residency
1829
01:25:58,621 --> 01:26:01,288
at this club by the university
called The Rome Inn.
1830
01:26:01,290 --> 01:26:02,923
That was the
biggest thing going.
1831
01:26:02,925 --> 01:26:05,926
Sunday nights belonged
to Stevie Ray Vaughan
1832
01:26:05,928 --> 01:26:07,694
and Triple Threat Review.
1833
01:26:08,464 --> 01:26:10,464
You'd be lucky if you
get 50 people in there.
1834
01:26:10,466 --> 01:26:12,366
Not
only were the band
1835
01:26:12,368 --> 01:26:14,168
unable to break
into the top tier
1836
01:26:14,170 --> 01:26:15,702
of the blues circuit,
1837
01:26:15,704 --> 01:26:17,905
but the five strung personalities within the ensemble
1838
01:26:17,907 --> 01:26:20,007
were also pulling in
different directions.
1839
01:26:20,009 --> 01:26:24,344
In early May, 1978, Triple
Threat Review split up.
1840
01:26:24,346 --> 01:26:27,347
Stevie immediately set
about forming a new unit,
1841
01:26:27,349 --> 01:26:29,750
Double Trouble, with
he and Lou Ann Barton
1842
01:26:29,752 --> 01:26:31,351
now the sole lead vocalists.
1843
01:26:31,353 --> 01:26:34,288
By September, they had
settled into a lineup
1844
01:26:34,290 --> 01:26:36,857
that included bassist
Jack Newhouse,
1845
01:26:36,859 --> 01:26:39,493
saxophonist Johnny Reno, and
young drummer Chris Layton.
1846
01:26:39,495 --> 01:26:41,328
It was as the
leader of this unit
1847
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:42,963
that Vaughan began
to truly develop.
1848
01:26:42,965 --> 01:26:45,465
Yet he still lacked
the confidence
1849
01:26:45,467 --> 01:26:46,700
to front the band on his own.
1850
01:26:46,702 --> 01:26:48,268
Stevie and the
band would come out
1851
01:26:48,270 --> 01:26:51,271
and do an hour, 30
minutes or an hour.
1852
01:26:51,273 --> 01:26:52,506
Lou Ann would come out
1853
01:26:52,508 --> 01:26:54,541
and do the last few
songs of the first set.
1854
01:26:54,543 --> 01:26:56,310
Then they would feature Lou Ann
1855
01:26:56,312 --> 01:26:57,978
pretty much through
a second set.
1856
01:26:57,980 --> 01:26:59,913
Then for a third set,
1857
01:26:59,915 --> 01:27:02,449
Lou Ann would come out,
do a few more songs.
1858
01:27:02,451 --> 01:27:04,484
Then she would sit
down for the evening
1859
01:27:04,486 --> 01:27:05,819
and the rest of it
would be Stevie's.
1860
01:27:05,821 --> 01:27:08,989
It's all incremental steps
1861
01:27:08,991 --> 01:27:11,225
to making Stevie the frontman.
1862
01:27:11,227 --> 01:27:14,728
He was inching closer and
closer to being a trio.
1863
01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:18,232
Essentially the early
days of Double Trouble,
1864
01:27:18,234 --> 01:27:22,769
with Lou Ann, it was
a trio plus Lou Ann.
1865
01:27:23,205 --> 01:27:24,771
Yet, for audiences,
1866
01:27:24,773 --> 01:27:26,707
Vaughan was now becoming
the main attraction.
1867
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:29,343
Returning to songwriting
for the first time
1868
01:27:29,345 --> 01:27:30,844
since the Los Angeles sessions
1869
01:27:30,846 --> 01:27:32,579
with Mark Benno
and Doyle Bramhall,
1870
01:27:32,581 --> 01:27:34,781
he added new
originals to the sets,
1871
01:27:34,783 --> 01:27:37,284
and became the creative
driving force of the group.
1872
01:27:37,286 --> 01:27:41,655
In April 1979, a young
booking agent, Joe Priesnitz
1873
01:27:41,657 --> 01:27:44,057
was invited to attend a
Double Trouble concert
1874
01:27:44,059 --> 01:27:45,926
to see whether he'd
consider signing them
1875
01:27:45,928 --> 01:27:49,329
to his newly established
agency, Rock Arts management.
1876
01:27:49,331 --> 01:27:50,964
We were trying
to build our roster.
1877
01:27:50,966 --> 01:27:53,533
And my partner came
in one day, and said,
1878
01:27:53,535 --> 01:27:56,169
"Hey, we're gonna go see
Stevie Vaughan tonight".
1879
01:27:56,171 --> 01:27:57,738
I remember like
it was yesterday.
1880
01:27:57,740 --> 01:27:59,172
We walked into The Armadillo
1881
01:27:59,174 --> 01:28:02,542
and they've just gone onstage
and just started playing
1882
01:28:03,445 --> 01:28:06,213
and it was just one
of those moments
1883
01:28:06,215 --> 01:28:09,583
where I just went,
"Yeah. That's it."
1884
01:28:09,585 --> 01:28:10,884
"He has it."
1885
01:28:24,333 --> 01:28:25,966
Not that there was anything
wrong with Lou Ann,
1886
01:28:25,968 --> 01:28:27,567
she was certainly a
great part of the band,
1887
01:28:27,569 --> 01:28:29,236
and the rhythm section was good.
1888
01:28:29,238 --> 01:28:32,239
It was Chris Layton and
Jackie Newhouse at that time.
1889
01:28:34,643 --> 01:28:37,077
It just swept over me
1890
01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:39,746
that yeah, he's got it.
1891
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:43,650
Priesnitz instantly
signed Double Trouble
1892
01:28:43,652 --> 01:28:46,486
and Rock Arts aimed to spread
their appeal beyond Austin.
1893
01:28:47,356 --> 01:28:48,989
To aid the promotion
of the band,
1894
01:28:48,991 --> 01:28:52,826
in June 1979, with the backing
of local DJ Joe,
1895
01:28:52,828 --> 01:28:55,262
Stevie and Double Trouble
traveled to Nashville
1896
01:28:55,264 --> 01:28:58,131
to work on sessions with
legendary Sun Studios engineer
1897
01:28:58,133 --> 01:28:59,366
Jack Clement.
1898
01:28:59,868 --> 01:29:02,102
The resulting recordings
disappointed the band
1899
01:29:02,104 --> 01:29:03,303
and went unreleasd.
1900
01:29:03,305 --> 01:29:05,372
Yet they remained
the only document
1901
01:29:05,374 --> 01:29:06,873
of the short-lived lineup.
1902
01:29:06,875 --> 01:29:08,275
These early recordings
1903
01:29:08,277 --> 01:29:10,410
are very interesting
because at this stage,
1904
01:29:10,412 --> 01:29:12,145
they're kind of a bar band.
1905
01:29:12,147 --> 01:29:14,081
It's roadhouse blues.
1906
01:29:14,083 --> 01:29:15,882
It's the sort of music
1907
01:29:15,884 --> 01:29:20,220
that in your dreams you
would like to imagine
1908
01:29:20,923 --> 01:29:24,024
every little bar or roadhouse
you go into in Texas,
1909
01:29:24,026 --> 01:29:25,359
there'd be a band in the corner
1910
01:29:25,361 --> 01:29:28,261
playing this kind of music.
1911
01:29:29,398 --> 01:29:30,864
It's quite instructive
1912
01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:33,834
because some of the tracks
in those early recordings
1913
01:29:33,836 --> 01:29:36,703
or some of the songs from
those early recordings
1914
01:29:36,705 --> 01:29:41,675
turn up in more developed
versions on Texas Flood,
1915
01:29:41,677 --> 01:29:43,810
so you can make that comparison
1916
01:29:43,812 --> 01:29:48,115
and they're a lot
rawer and earthier.
1917
01:29:48,117 --> 01:29:52,686
I think you can still
hear in Stevie Ray Vaughan
1918
01:29:52,688 --> 01:29:55,522
that this guy has got
something special.
1919
01:29:55,524 --> 01:29:58,191
♪ Well
sittin' here so lonely
1920
01:29:58,193 --> 01:30:00,761
♪ Feelin' oh so blue
1921
01:30:00,763 --> 01:30:02,129
♪ My baby's tryin'
to mistreat me
1922
01:30:02,131 --> 01:30:04,164
♪ And I don't know what to do
1923
01:30:04,166 --> 01:30:05,999
♪ So I'm cryin'
1924
01:30:07,302 --> 01:30:10,003
♪ Why do I have to feel this way
1925
01:30:13,342 --> 01:30:15,275
♪ If I can't love my baby
1926
01:30:15,277 --> 01:30:18,512
♪ I can't live another day
1927
01:30:21,950 --> 01:30:23,784
We really start to see
1928
01:30:23,786 --> 01:30:25,185
the Double Trouble
1929
01:30:25,187 --> 01:30:27,554
that is eventually going
to take the world by storm.
1930
01:30:27,556 --> 01:30:29,189
Stevie and the band
1931
01:30:29,191 --> 01:30:34,161
recorded Pride and Joy,
Lovestruck Baby, Empty Arms,
1932
01:30:34,163 --> 01:30:35,328
I'm Cryin'.
1933
01:30:35,664 --> 01:30:37,664
These are some songs
that were staples
1934
01:30:37,666 --> 01:30:39,599
for Stevie for the
rest of his career.
1935
01:30:39,601 --> 01:30:42,002
He already had Chris
Layton in the band
1936
01:30:42,004 --> 01:30:44,504
and with the
exception of the fact
1937
01:30:44,506 --> 01:30:47,474
that Tommy wasn't in
the band yet on bass
1938
01:30:47,476 --> 01:30:49,142
this is Double Trouble.
1939
01:30:49,144 --> 01:30:51,812
Lou Ann was still there.
1940
01:30:51,814 --> 01:30:52,979
She did about half the songs
1941
01:30:52,981 --> 01:30:54,281
but on the other half,
1942
01:30:54,283 --> 01:30:55,982
it's all Stevie
and Double Trouble.
1943
01:30:55,984 --> 01:30:59,820
♪ Well I don't
have to worry 'bout money
1944
01:30:59,822 --> 01:31:03,123
♪ Don't have to
worry 'bout clothes
1945
01:31:03,125 --> 01:31:08,128
♪ Don't have to worry 'bout
anything here's my baby
1946
01:31:09,031 --> 01:31:10,797
♪ Goodness knows she got
1947
01:31:10,799 --> 01:31:13,166
♪ Sugar coated love
1948
01:31:14,169 --> 01:31:17,704
♪ Yeah sugar coated love
1949
01:31:18,574 --> 01:31:23,009
♪ He's a real gone baby
and I don't mean maybe
1950
01:31:23,011 --> 01:31:24,744
♪ He's mine
1951
01:31:25,714 --> 01:31:29,382
Lou Ann Barton is a fairly limited vocalist,
I think.
1952
01:31:29,384 --> 01:31:32,519
You can hear this
phenomenal guitar player,
1953
01:31:32,521 --> 01:31:34,721
and then you can hear this,
1954
01:31:34,723 --> 01:31:36,490
well I shouldn't be rude,
1955
01:31:36,492 --> 01:31:39,025
average female singer.
1956
01:31:39,027 --> 01:31:40,527
I think at this stage,
1957
01:31:40,529 --> 01:31:43,263
Stevie Ray Vaughan sees
himself as a great guitarist.
1958
01:31:43,265 --> 01:31:45,065
There's no false modesty here.
1959
01:31:45,067 --> 01:31:47,267
He knows he's got the
chops, as they say.
1960
01:31:47,269 --> 01:31:49,302
Like a lot of guitarists,
1961
01:31:49,304 --> 01:31:53,507
he's probably far less confident
about his vocal abilities.
1962
01:31:53,509 --> 01:31:57,644
He probably figures
that at this stage,
1963
01:31:57,646 --> 01:32:02,182
the band needs a
specialist vocalist,
1964
01:32:02,184 --> 01:32:04,584
if we can put it like that.
1965
01:32:04,586 --> 01:32:07,554
When, all the time, as
he would shortly prove,
1966
01:32:07,556 --> 01:32:10,223
he was more than capable
of doing the job himself.
1967
01:32:11,226 --> 01:32:13,226
By the Fall of 1979,
1968
01:32:13,228 --> 01:32:16,062
Rock Arts' strategy to
expand Double Trouble's reach
1969
01:32:16,064 --> 01:32:19,232
outside of their Texas comfort
zone proved successful.
1970
01:32:19,234 --> 01:32:20,400
In November,
1971
01:32:20,402 --> 01:32:22,002
they embarked on a
tour of the east coast.
1972
01:32:22,004 --> 01:32:25,472
Yet, by the end of these
dates, with little warning,
1973
01:32:25,474 --> 01:32:26,940
Lou Ann Barton quit the band.
1974
01:32:27,309 --> 01:32:30,010
With shows already booked
throughout Texas in December,
1975
01:32:30,012 --> 01:32:32,045
a decision had to
be quickly made
1976
01:32:32,047 --> 01:32:33,313
about how the band would cope
1977
01:32:33,315 --> 01:32:34,781
with the loss of
its main vocalist.
1978
01:32:34,783 --> 01:32:35,982
We got the call
1979
01:32:35,984 --> 01:32:37,684
and I think it came from Stevie
1980
01:32:37,686 --> 01:32:39,185
that Lou Ann left the band.
1981
01:32:39,955 --> 01:32:41,321
The band came back.
1982
01:32:41,323 --> 01:32:42,689
We had a meeting.
1983
01:32:43,625 --> 01:32:45,292
Because we just
wanted to figure,
1984
01:32:45,294 --> 01:32:46,860
"So should we get
another singer?"
1985
01:32:47,963 --> 01:32:50,463
"What's the plan here?
Should we cancel the dates?"
1986
01:32:50,465 --> 01:32:51,865
Which nobody wanted to do.
1987
01:32:51,867 --> 01:32:53,700
We were talking about
different ideas,
1988
01:32:53,702 --> 01:32:56,703
and finally I just said,
"So who's gonna sing?"
1989
01:32:56,705 --> 01:33:00,674
Stevie looked at me
with this dead glare
1990
01:33:00,676 --> 01:33:02,542
and said, "I am".
1991
01:33:03,145 --> 01:33:05,245
He didn't finish the sentence,
1992
01:33:05,247 --> 01:33:07,981
but I know what he
was thinking.
1993
01:33:07,983 --> 01:33:11,384
He was going to
call me an expletive
1994
01:33:11,386 --> 01:33:12,586
but he didn't.
1995
01:33:12,588 --> 01:33:15,155
He held off, he
just said, "I am".
1996
01:33:16,191 --> 01:33:21,027
I said, "Okay. We'll
see you at Steam Boat."
1997
01:33:21,029 --> 01:33:23,330
I think it was within
three nights of that.
1998
01:33:24,199 --> 01:33:25,565
Now a trio,
1999
01:33:25,567 --> 01:33:27,701
the loss of Lou Ann in
fact strengthened the band.
2000
01:33:27,703 --> 01:33:28,902
Stevie discovering
2001
01:33:28,904 --> 01:33:30,704
he finally had the
confidence and ability
2002
01:33:30,706 --> 01:33:32,305
to become a full time frontman.
2003
01:33:33,075 --> 01:33:35,542
In 1980, they resumed touring
2004
01:33:35,544 --> 01:33:36,643
across Texas and the east coast.
2005
01:33:36,645 --> 01:33:38,345
On occasion,
performing alongside
2006
01:33:38,347 --> 01:33:40,146
Jimmy Vaughan's
Fabulous Thunderbirds,
2007
01:33:40,148 --> 01:33:42,082
who by now had
secured a record deal.
2008
01:33:42,084 --> 01:33:44,751
As the world moved
into a new decade,
2009
01:33:44,753 --> 01:33:47,387
there was also growing support
for Vaughan and his band
2010
01:33:47,389 --> 01:33:49,089
from a number of
interested parties
2011
01:33:49,091 --> 01:33:50,757
looking to advance his career.
2012
01:33:50,759 --> 01:33:53,259
Stevie had met
accountant Eddie Johnson
2013
01:33:53,261 --> 01:33:54,594
back in 1978.
2014
01:33:54,596 --> 01:33:56,463
This led to a chain of events
2015
01:33:56,465 --> 01:33:59,366
that would by 1980, see
his day-to-day management
2016
01:33:59,368 --> 01:34:02,702
taken over by a pivotal
figure, Chesley Millikin.
2017
01:34:02,704 --> 01:34:05,105
Eddie Johnson
saw Stevie perform
2018
01:34:05,107 --> 01:34:08,241
in Austin, in the fall of 1978.
2019
01:34:08,243 --> 01:34:11,277
Stevie was just in a band.
2020
01:34:11,279 --> 01:34:13,513
They didn't have
a team behind him
2021
01:34:13,515 --> 01:34:17,150
to help promote or publicize
the band, or an agent.
2022
01:34:17,152 --> 01:34:18,351
They had nothing
2023
01:34:18,353 --> 01:34:19,552
as a support.
2024
01:34:20,689 --> 01:34:24,324
Eddie approached her
employer, Frances Carr,
2025
01:34:24,326 --> 01:34:26,660
at Manor Downs, in Austin,
2026
01:34:26,662 --> 01:34:31,197
and said, "Look, this guy
deserves to have a team"
2027
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:32,532
"behind him to back him"
2028
01:34:32,534 --> 01:34:37,003
"and to help make the
band successful enough"
2029
01:34:37,005 --> 01:34:38,672
"that they can survive".
2030
01:34:38,674 --> 01:34:42,342
Frances was a woman
of considerable wealth
2031
01:34:42,344 --> 01:34:47,080
coming from a really storied
Texas ranching family,
2032
01:34:47,082 --> 01:34:49,249
the O'Connors, which
is one of the first
2033
01:34:49,251 --> 01:34:50,984
ranching families in Texas
2034
01:34:50,986 --> 01:34:53,219
going back to the 1840s.
2035
01:34:54,623 --> 01:34:58,958
She had been road manager
for the Grateful Dead.
2036
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,228
She ran with a lot of folks,
2037
01:35:02,230 --> 01:35:04,397
and that was where she
met Chesley Millikin,
2038
01:35:04,399 --> 01:35:08,068
who'd been a player in the
Ash Grove folk club in LA,
2039
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:09,903
but was a British gentleman
2040
01:35:09,905 --> 01:35:12,505
who was the head of
Epic UK at one time,
2041
01:35:12,507 --> 01:35:17,110
Chesley was critical
to the band's success
2042
01:35:17,112 --> 01:35:20,980
from that point, into
expanding into larger markets.
2043
01:35:21,783 --> 01:35:25,919
Partly because Chesley
hired Charles Comer
2044
01:35:25,921 --> 01:35:27,353
as a publicist.
2045
01:35:27,355 --> 01:35:32,158
Stevie now really had a
full team behind the band
2046
01:35:32,427 --> 01:35:36,930
with financial backing,
accounting, publicity,
2047
01:35:36,932 --> 01:35:39,165
and day-to-date management.
2048
01:35:39,701 --> 01:35:41,167
Millikin
initially attempted
2049
01:35:41,169 --> 01:35:42,368
to expand the group.
2050
01:35:42,370 --> 01:35:44,504
Yet after numerous
unsuccessful auditions
2051
01:35:44,506 --> 01:35:47,006
with assorted instrumentalists
and female vocalists,
2052
01:35:47,008 --> 01:35:48,808
he then looked to
strengthen the appeal
2053
01:35:48,810 --> 01:35:50,143
of the existing trio.
2054
01:35:50,145 --> 01:35:52,979
The band leader himself
took on his full name,
2055
01:35:52,981 --> 01:35:55,548
Stevie Ray Vaughan,
and his rhythm section
2056
01:35:55,550 --> 01:35:57,784
would now be identified
through the group name,
2057
01:35:57,786 --> 01:35:59,319
and Double Trouble.
2058
01:35:59,321 --> 01:36:01,788
They would no longer be
billed, or even promote
2059
01:36:01,790 --> 01:36:03,223
themselves as a blues act,
2060
01:36:03,225 --> 01:36:05,925
thus distancing them from
a specialist marketplace.
2061
01:36:05,927 --> 01:36:07,460
Yet over the coming months,
2062
01:36:07,462 --> 01:36:09,195
despite several record companies
2063
01:36:09,197 --> 01:36:10,630
expressing interest in the band,
2064
01:36:10,632 --> 01:36:13,266
a contract failed
to materialize.
2065
01:36:13,268 --> 01:36:17,103
I became kind of the
de facto rep for the band
2066
01:36:17,105 --> 01:36:20,006
because people would
fly in to see him,
2067
01:36:20,008 --> 01:36:21,741
certain record company people,
2068
01:36:21,743 --> 01:36:23,510
and they would ask me,
2069
01:36:23,512 --> 01:36:28,181
so and so's flying in from MCA,
2070
01:36:28,183 --> 01:36:31,351
and can you kind of show up
2071
01:36:31,353 --> 01:36:32,519
and meet him at the venue
2072
01:36:32,521 --> 01:36:34,320
and do the whole
thing, which I would.
2073
01:36:35,690 --> 01:36:38,224
I can't tell you how many times.
2074
01:36:38,226 --> 01:36:43,229
Dozens of these people
would watch him play
2075
01:36:44,232 --> 01:36:46,332
and then at the end
of the night just say,
2076
01:36:46,334 --> 01:36:50,770
"Well there are
great blues band".
2077
01:37:28,944 --> 01:37:30,643
I would just be dumbfounded.
2078
01:37:31,813 --> 01:37:34,047
"What do you mean it's
just a great blues band?"
2079
01:37:34,049 --> 01:37:35,481
"Can't you see this guy?"
2080
01:37:36,051 --> 01:37:39,452
"He's one of the
most phenomenal players"
2081
01:37:39,454 --> 01:37:41,354
that's ever gotten onstage".
2082
01:37:41,356 --> 01:37:43,223
To me it was down the road
2083
01:37:43,225 --> 01:37:44,924
certainly going to
happen at some point.
2084
01:37:45,527 --> 01:37:47,193
Somebody was going to
recognize his talent
2085
01:37:47,195 --> 01:37:48,428
at some time.
2086
01:37:48,463 --> 01:37:49,929
It didn't matter what
kind of music he liked.
2087
01:37:49,931 --> 01:37:51,130
If he saw this guy play,
2088
01:37:52,534 --> 01:37:55,235
it was my belief, that
he would like him.
2089
01:37:56,471 --> 01:37:58,104
Yet no
major label offerers
2090
01:37:58,106 --> 01:37:59,105
were forthcoming.
2091
01:37:59,107 --> 01:38:00,473
Even prominent figures
2092
01:38:00,475 --> 01:38:02,442
within the record
companies themselves
2093
01:38:02,444 --> 01:38:04,077
struggled to secure any interest
2094
01:38:04,079 --> 01:38:05,511
in Vaughan and his band.
2095
01:38:08,049 --> 01:38:10,516
A lot of people are
telling me about Stevie Ray,
2096
01:38:10,518 --> 01:38:13,119
so I was aware of his playing
2097
01:38:13,121 --> 01:38:15,021
and I saw him play
a couple times
2098
01:38:15,023 --> 01:38:18,491
and saw the excitement
that people had around him.
2099
01:38:19,127 --> 01:38:21,828
I got some tapes from
a friend of mine,
2100
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:24,063
and I actually sent
those to New York,
2101
01:38:24,065 --> 01:38:27,500
and I sent them to the
head of A&R at that time
2102
01:38:27,502 --> 01:38:28,701
in New York.
2103
01:38:28,703 --> 01:38:31,304
I recieved a letter
back, with the tapes,
2104
01:38:31,306 --> 01:38:33,640
saying, "We're not
really interested"
2105
01:38:33,642 --> 01:38:35,708
"in signing a blues
artist like this."
2106
01:38:35,710 --> 01:38:39,045
"Or we would sign a B.B.
King or something like that."
2107
01:38:39,614 --> 01:38:43,082
Which I should have kept
the letter and the tapes,
2108
01:38:43,084 --> 01:38:44,250
but I didn't.
2109
01:38:44,252 --> 01:38:45,985
I saw there was no
interest in him,
2110
01:38:45,987 --> 01:38:47,353
and so unfortunately,
2111
01:38:47,355 --> 01:38:49,389
I dropped the cause
and didn't do anything.
2112
01:38:50,025 --> 01:38:52,525
With record
companies failing to commit,
2113
01:38:52,594 --> 01:38:55,929
in January 1981, the band
made a final crucial change
2114
01:38:55,931 --> 01:38:57,130
to its lineup.
2115
01:38:57,132 --> 01:38:59,032
Bassist Jackie Newhouse
2116
01:38:59,034 --> 01:39:00,300
was replaced by the player
2117
01:39:00,302 --> 01:39:01,567
who had previously made his name
2118
01:39:01,569 --> 01:39:03,636
with Johnny Winter,
back in the late 60s,
2119
01:39:03,638 --> 01:39:06,940
Stevie's brief Blackbird
bandmate, Tommy Shannon.
2120
01:39:06,942 --> 01:39:08,942
The band had
been coming together,
2121
01:39:08,944 --> 01:39:11,611
Double Trouble, for a while.
2122
01:39:11,613 --> 01:39:15,315
It was finally waking
up to this trio concept.
2123
01:39:15,884 --> 01:39:18,084
One of his heroes, Jimi Hendrix,
2124
01:39:18,086 --> 01:39:21,020
that's how he was
performed at his best,
2125
01:39:21,022 --> 01:39:22,956
and can really play.
2126
01:39:22,958 --> 01:39:25,758
I think that made sense.
2127
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,860
Also, this predecessor,
2128
01:39:27,862 --> 01:39:30,997
the one guy that really made
a noise doing Texas blues
2129
01:39:30,999 --> 01:39:36,002
and doing it to a rock
audience was Johnny Winter.
2130
01:39:36,604 --> 01:39:37,704
I don't look at it as
2131
01:39:37,706 --> 01:39:39,472
Stevie was going
hunting for a name,
2132
01:39:39,474 --> 01:39:41,474
but he knew Tommy's work,
2133
01:39:41,476 --> 01:39:43,543
and he knew the context
that he worked in,
2134
01:39:43,545 --> 01:39:47,180
which in the power
trio thing was perfect.
2135
01:39:47,182 --> 01:39:49,048
I recall when it went down,
2136
01:39:49,050 --> 01:39:50,950
I thought it was kind of sudden.
2137
01:39:50,952 --> 01:39:53,820
Then I saw Tommy play
2138
01:39:53,822 --> 01:39:55,154
one of his first
nights with Stevie,
2139
01:39:55,156 --> 01:39:58,992
and it was like,
"Okay, I got it".
2140
01:39:59,694 --> 01:40:03,396
"This is the combo. This
is the combination."
2141
01:40:03,798 --> 01:40:05,598
Yet even
with a tight band
2142
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,467
and an experienced
team behind him,
2143
01:40:07,469 --> 01:40:10,236
still Stevie struggled
to secure a record deal.
2144
01:40:10,238 --> 01:40:12,271
After a year of heavy touring,
2145
01:40:12,273 --> 01:40:15,241
in 1982, Chesley Millikin
passed a video tape
2146
01:40:15,243 --> 01:40:16,676
of the trio to Mick Jagger,
2147
01:40:16,678 --> 01:40:18,511
and then arranged a
private performance
2148
01:40:18,513 --> 01:40:20,780
for the Rolling Stones
at New York's Danceteria.
2149
01:40:20,782 --> 01:40:23,483
Amidst rumors in the
national music press
2150
01:40:23,485 --> 01:40:25,752
that Jagger was going to
sign Vaughan to his label,
2151
01:40:25,754 --> 01:40:27,587
after the show,
he was impressed,
2152
01:40:27,589 --> 01:40:30,390
yet unconvinced of the commercial prospects of the band,
2153
01:40:30,392 --> 01:40:32,825
and nothing materialized.
2154
01:40:32,827 --> 01:40:35,361
Yet a more ironic and
coincidental turn of events
2155
01:40:35,363 --> 01:40:36,863
would work in Stevie's favor.
2156
01:40:36,865 --> 01:40:38,264
Back in Austin,
2157
01:40:38,266 --> 01:40:41,067
producer and Warner Brothers
executive Jerry Wexler
2158
01:40:41,069 --> 01:40:43,102
had arrived in town
to support the release
2159
01:40:43,104 --> 01:40:45,038
of Lou Ann Barton's debut album.
2160
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:46,472
At the launch party,
2161
01:40:46,474 --> 01:40:48,741
witnessed a Vaughan and
Double Trouble performance.
2162
01:40:48,743 --> 01:40:50,676
Blown away by the show,
2163
01:40:50,678 --> 01:40:52,545
Wexler called Claude Nobs,
2164
01:40:52,547 --> 01:40:55,181
the founder and organizer of
the Montreux Jazz Festival
2165
01:40:55,183 --> 01:40:56,149
in Switzerland,
2166
01:40:56,151 --> 01:40:57,583
urging him to book the band
2167
01:40:57,585 --> 01:40:59,485
for his summer event.
2168
01:40:59,487 --> 01:41:00,887
Nobs duely obliged,
2169
01:41:00,889 --> 01:41:03,089
and the subsequent performance
would single-handedly
2170
01:41:03,091 --> 01:41:04,991
alter the course of
the band's career.
2171
01:41:04,993 --> 01:41:07,427
Yet Vaughan's
flamboyant Texas blues
2172
01:41:07,429 --> 01:41:09,629
was far from
universally appreciated
2173
01:41:09,631 --> 01:41:13,166
when they stepped onto the
stage on July the 17th, 1982.
2174
01:41:13,168 --> 01:41:14,667
We didn't have a record.
2175
01:41:14,669 --> 01:41:16,269
It wasn't like we had
product to go with
2176
01:41:16,271 --> 01:41:18,404
and so it was our
first unsigned act
2177
01:41:18,406 --> 01:41:20,006
to play the festival.
2178
01:41:20,675 --> 01:41:22,809
We were just going over
their and do a gig.
2179
01:41:22,811 --> 01:41:26,045
We were booked on
a night in Montreux
2180
01:41:26,047 --> 01:41:28,247
where it was predominantly
acoustic music.
2181
01:41:28,249 --> 01:41:31,050
Where there was somebody
sitting with a guitar,
2182
01:41:31,052 --> 01:41:32,852
acoustic guitar, upright bass.
2183
01:41:32,854 --> 01:41:34,220
No drums.
2184
01:41:34,222 --> 01:41:36,022
Or maybe there was,
but it was kind of
2185
01:41:36,024 --> 01:41:38,191
a brush use situation
that kind of thing.
2186
01:41:38,193 --> 01:41:39,959
It was a very quiet night.
2187
01:41:39,961 --> 01:41:41,194
So let's welcome
2188
01:41:41,196 --> 01:41:44,630
with Chris Layton on
drums, Chris Layton.
2189
01:41:46,601 --> 01:41:50,303
Tommy Shannon on
bass, Tommy Shannon.
2190
01:41:52,273 --> 01:41:55,541
Stevie Ray Vaughan,
Stevie Ray Vaughan!
2191
01:41:57,212 --> 01:42:01,781
When Stevie Ray Vaughan
appeared at Montreux in 1982,
2192
01:42:01,783 --> 01:42:04,884
it had a shocking effect
upon the audience.
2193
01:42:04,886 --> 01:42:08,888
People were expecting
acoustic blues.
2194
01:42:09,624 --> 01:42:14,660
They got this heavy duty
electric blues sound.
2195
01:42:16,865 --> 01:42:19,632
In the recordings of this
that have been since released,
2196
01:42:19,634 --> 01:42:22,368
you hear the boos
and the cat calls
2197
01:42:22,370 --> 01:42:26,272
and people just wanting
him to get off stage
2198
01:42:26,274 --> 01:42:29,942
but then on the other hand
it also had great appeal.
2199
01:43:16,024 --> 01:43:18,758
I wasn't at Montreux,
I'm not in the audience,
2200
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,763
but I got the sense it
was a fairly purist crowd,
2201
01:43:24,332 --> 01:43:25,798
kind of like at Antone's.
2202
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,968
The crowd that believed The
Thunderbirds were really it
2203
01:43:28,970 --> 01:43:31,604
because they did it just
like the old guys did it.
2204
01:43:32,507 --> 01:43:34,240
Here comes this brash band
2205
01:43:34,242 --> 01:43:37,043
that's a little louder and
playing kind of rocked up.
2206
01:43:37,045 --> 01:43:39,445
Even if it is Freddy King
2207
01:43:39,447 --> 01:43:42,181
and he's quoting a guy from
his hometown in Dallas,
2208
01:43:42,183 --> 01:43:44,116
and he's playing it flawlessly,
2209
01:43:44,118 --> 01:43:45,985
maybe it's too loud.
2210
01:43:46,888 --> 01:43:48,421
At the end, you hear,
2211
01:43:48,423 --> 01:43:50,223
it's a mixed reaction.
2212
01:43:50,225 --> 01:43:52,124
It's like, the crowd,
there's some cheers.
2213
01:43:52,126 --> 01:43:53,025
There's some boos
2214
01:43:53,027 --> 01:43:54,193
and the boos are audible
2215
01:43:54,195 --> 01:43:56,329
because everybody's
not going nuts.
2216
01:44:03,438 --> 01:44:04,770
Thank you so much.
2217
01:44:10,712 --> 01:44:14,447
But Montreux
signified the arrival
2218
01:44:14,449 --> 01:44:16,949
of Stevie Ray Vaughan
and Double Trouble
2219
01:44:16,951 --> 01:44:20,553
and the revival of
American blues music.
2220
01:44:21,823 --> 01:44:23,522
There was a lot preceding it.
2221
01:44:23,524 --> 01:44:24,824
There was a lot going on.
2222
01:44:24,826 --> 01:44:26,926
This just busted it through,
2223
01:44:26,928 --> 01:44:29,962
and it made it accessible
2224
01:44:29,964 --> 01:44:32,765
in a way that it hadn't
been made accessible
2225
01:44:32,767 --> 01:44:37,003
in the United States, I
think, since Led Zeppelin
2226
01:44:37,005 --> 01:44:40,473
and The Yardbirds and the
British Invasion bands
2227
01:44:40,475 --> 01:44:41,741
were doing blues.
2228
01:44:41,743 --> 01:44:46,646
♪ Well it's
flooding down in Texas
2229
01:44:49,684 --> 01:44:53,185
♪ All of the telephone
lines are down
2230
01:45:00,995 --> 01:45:05,331
♪ Yeah it's flooding
down in Texas
2231
01:45:07,568 --> 01:45:11,203
♪ All of the telephone
lines are down ♪
2232
01:45:12,507 --> 01:45:14,640
There'd been this lapse
2233
01:45:14,642 --> 01:45:16,042
and when it was least expected,
2234
01:45:16,044 --> 01:45:19,412
and certainly not
expected from this kid,
2235
01:45:20,114 --> 01:45:21,547
he did it.
2236
01:45:21,983 --> 01:45:24,784
By wisely infusing all the
things that he learned,
2237
01:45:24,786 --> 01:45:26,485
so he rocks it up.
2238
01:45:26,487 --> 01:45:28,321
Yes, there's a lot
of Hendrix in it,
2239
01:45:28,323 --> 01:45:30,823
and it's the first
guy since Hendrix
2240
01:45:30,825 --> 01:45:33,559
that sounds like Hendrix
without imitating Hendrix.
2241
01:46:11,399 --> 01:46:14,533
♪ Well I'm
leaving you baby ♪
2242
01:46:14,635 --> 01:46:17,570
Stevie was
off of Hendrix
2243
01:46:17,572 --> 01:46:19,238
and the blues he grew up with
2244
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:20,473
the Jump Blues,
2245
01:46:20,475 --> 01:46:22,007
and look at it this way,
2246
01:46:22,009 --> 01:46:26,445
he was carrying on just as
what Johnny Winter had done
2247
01:46:26,447 --> 01:46:28,381
and what ZZ Top had done.
2248
01:46:28,383 --> 01:46:31,617
He was carrying on that
power trio tradition.
2249
01:46:31,619 --> 01:46:33,519
It was like straight
out of Cream.
2250
01:46:33,521 --> 01:46:36,021
You had to take them on
that kind of a basis.
2251
01:46:36,023 --> 01:46:37,690
They needed to be regarded,
2252
01:46:37,692 --> 01:46:39,558
"Are they better than Cream?"
2253
01:46:40,461 --> 01:46:42,695
Those are fighting words, man.
2254
01:46:42,697 --> 01:46:44,597
"Is this guy going
to do Clapton?"
2255
01:46:45,266 --> 01:46:48,167
Well, maybe, maybe even better.
2256
01:46:49,704 --> 01:46:51,937
Montreux was the throwdown.
2257
01:46:52,473 --> 01:46:53,439
Here we are.
2258
01:46:53,808 --> 01:46:55,074
It became very clear
2259
01:46:55,076 --> 01:46:56,976
with the recordings
that followed it
2260
01:46:56,978 --> 01:47:00,413
that Stevie brought
respect back to blues.
2261
01:47:00,415 --> 01:47:03,048
He brought recognition
back to blues.
2262
01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:07,219
By making it a completely
unique, original,
2263
01:47:07,221 --> 01:47:09,054
and modern sound again.
2264
01:47:09,056 --> 01:47:10,890
In the
audience for the show,
2265
01:47:10,892 --> 01:47:13,058
where David Bowie and
John Paul Hammond,
2266
01:47:13,060 --> 01:47:15,361
the son of legendary
producer John Hammond,
2267
01:47:15,363 --> 01:47:17,463
and both were
astonished by Vaughan
2268
01:47:17,465 --> 01:47:19,064
and Double Trouble's
performance.
2269
01:47:19,066 --> 01:47:20,366
The following night,
2270
01:47:20,368 --> 01:47:22,334
the band played an impromptu gig
2271
01:47:22,336 --> 01:47:23,569
in the more private setting
2272
01:47:23,571 --> 01:47:25,171
of The Artist Bar
at the festival.
2273
01:47:25,173 --> 01:47:26,972
And here they were
joined onstage
2274
01:47:26,974 --> 01:47:28,874
by singer songwriter
Jackson Brown,
2275
01:47:28,876 --> 01:47:31,744
who was equally impressed
by the Texan ensemble.
2276
01:47:31,746 --> 01:47:34,213
The atmosphere
of the club was really,
2277
01:47:35,082 --> 01:47:37,283
it was like a blues club.
2278
01:47:37,285 --> 01:47:39,251
It was smoky, after
hours, small, you know.
2279
01:47:39,253 --> 01:47:43,956
I was playing Montreux and
I didn't know anything,
2280
01:47:43,958 --> 01:47:46,158
actually I'd heard about
Stevie from his manager,
2281
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,594
from Chesley Millikin, who was
a really old friend of mine.
2282
01:47:48,596 --> 01:47:50,396
I didn't see the show
2283
01:47:50,398 --> 01:47:51,597
and I really only
heard about it.
2284
01:47:51,599 --> 01:47:52,998
Actually I was being interviewed
2285
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,835
guys from my band came
up to where I was sitting
2286
01:47:55,837 --> 01:47:57,336
in this restaurant,
2287
01:47:57,338 --> 01:47:58,971
really excited, and said,
"You have to come down here."
2288
01:47:59,740 --> 01:48:03,008
"Excuse us, but
whatever you're doing,"
2289
01:48:03,010 --> 01:48:05,277
"you've gotta stop
and come see this".
2290
01:48:06,314 --> 01:48:08,681
The opportunities
that these fresh connections
2291
01:48:08,683 --> 01:48:10,716
subsequently presented
to Stevie and his band,
2292
01:48:10,718 --> 01:48:12,017
were invaluable.
2293
01:48:12,019 --> 01:48:13,886
While Bowie proposed
2294
01:48:13,888 --> 01:48:15,654
that Vaughan play a role
on his forthcoming album,
2295
01:48:15,656 --> 01:48:18,057
and Hammond enthusiastically
passed recordings
2296
01:48:18,059 --> 01:48:19,658
onto his influential father,
2297
01:48:19,660 --> 01:48:22,194
Brown offered recording
time to the band
2298
01:48:22,196 --> 01:48:23,596
at his LA studio.
2299
01:48:23,798 --> 01:48:27,366
In November 1982, still yet
to secure a record deal,
2300
01:48:27,368 --> 01:48:29,535
Stevie Ray Vaughan
and Double Trouble
2301
01:48:29,537 --> 01:48:30,836
headed to the west coast,
2302
01:48:30,838 --> 01:48:32,771
and sessions began
on the material
2303
01:48:32,773 --> 01:48:34,773
that would eventually
become their debut album,
2304
01:48:34,775 --> 01:48:36,008
Texas Flood.
2305
01:48:36,010 --> 01:48:39,278
We thought, "Why
don't we take Jackson"
2306
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,848
"up on that offer, and
let's go to Los Angeles".
2307
01:48:42,850 --> 01:48:44,917
Which, we couldn't
really even afford
2308
01:48:44,919 --> 01:48:46,318
to just go there and go do that,
2309
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,153
even if that part
of it was for free,
2310
01:48:48,155 --> 01:48:49,955
so we booked a small tour.
2311
01:48:49,957 --> 01:48:51,223
And he showed up
2312
01:48:51,225 --> 01:48:52,591
and there was a voice
on the end of the phone
2313
01:48:52,593 --> 01:48:53,592
saying, "Well, we're here",
2314
01:48:53,594 --> 01:48:55,594
and I said, "Hello, who's this?"
2315
01:48:56,731 --> 01:48:58,264
He said it was them,
2316
01:48:58,266 --> 01:49:00,733
and they were here and that
they were ready to record.
2317
01:49:00,735 --> 01:49:02,835
I went, "Well, you know its -"
2318
01:49:03,237 --> 01:49:04,370
"Okay, wait a second."
2319
01:49:04,372 --> 01:49:06,839
"Who wants to record this guy?"
2320
01:49:06,841 --> 01:49:10,242
Because it was about to
be Thanksgiving holiday
2321
01:49:10,244 --> 01:49:12,678
and everybody was
planning on leaving
2322
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,013
and stop recording.
2323
01:49:14,015 --> 01:49:15,848
In that respect, it was
really great timing.
2324
01:49:15,850 --> 01:49:18,450
The guy that stepped
into the spot
2325
01:49:18,452 --> 01:49:20,819
was James Gess, who was
the second engineer.
2326
01:49:20,888 --> 01:49:23,155
A very capable engineer,
2327
01:49:23,157 --> 01:49:26,191
and who I later recorded
a couple records with.
2328
01:49:26,193 --> 01:49:28,260
We went
in, set up and did
2329
01:49:30,298 --> 01:49:33,365
played through our show a
couple of times each day,
2330
01:49:33,367 --> 01:49:34,800
is what it amounted to.
2331
01:49:34,802 --> 01:49:37,169
It wasn't a recording
studio with other people
2332
01:49:37,171 --> 01:49:38,504
and other musicians
coming in and out
2333
01:49:38,506 --> 01:49:43,475
it was just this sort of
funky downtown location.
2334
01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:47,880
They had a week to
do whatever they do
2335
01:49:47,882 --> 01:49:50,316
when they were at home or when -
2336
01:49:51,085 --> 01:49:52,818
1983 was the year
2337
01:49:52,820 --> 01:49:54,753
in which Stevie Ray Vaughan
and Double Trouble's
2338
01:49:54,755 --> 01:49:55,955
fortunes changed.
2339
01:49:55,957 --> 01:49:57,523
Not only did the band
2340
01:49:57,525 --> 01:50:00,292
have professional recordings
completed for the first time,
2341
01:50:00,294 --> 01:50:02,161
they also had a team behind them
2342
01:50:02,163 --> 01:50:03,996
trying to build on the momentum
2343
01:50:03,998 --> 01:50:05,397
created by the Montreux shows.
2344
01:50:05,399 --> 01:50:07,967
In January, Stevie
traveled to New York
2345
01:50:07,969 --> 01:50:09,301
to begin a week of sessions
2346
01:50:09,303 --> 01:50:11,737
for David Bowie's latest
album, Let's Dance.
2347
01:50:12,406 --> 01:50:13,606
The following month
2348
01:50:13,608 --> 01:50:15,574
in an attempt to expand
the band's presence
2349
01:50:15,576 --> 01:50:16,809
on the live circuit,
2350
01:50:16,811 --> 01:50:19,311
Chesley Millikin decided
to drop Joe Priesnitz'
2351
01:50:19,313 --> 01:50:20,646
Austin-based Rock Arts
2352
01:50:20,648 --> 01:50:22,281
and approached Alex Hodges,
2353
01:50:22,283 --> 01:50:24,316
a booking agent who
had been pivotal
2354
01:50:24,318 --> 01:50:25,951
in breaking the
Allman Brothers Band
2355
01:50:25,953 --> 01:50:28,487
and other southern rock
acts across America.
2356
01:50:28,489 --> 01:50:29,655
I got a call,
2357
01:50:29,657 --> 01:50:31,557
"Alex, you gotta
come see this guy."
2358
01:50:31,559 --> 01:50:33,659
"You gotta come see
Stevie Ray Vaughan".
2359
01:50:33,661 --> 01:50:36,195
It so happened I'd
heard his name before,
2360
01:50:36,197 --> 01:50:38,364
but I'd never seen him and
hadn't heard any product.
2361
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,700
Turns out there
was no album out.
2362
01:50:42,236 --> 01:50:44,303
He had not been
picked up by a label,
2363
01:50:44,305 --> 01:50:46,405
and time was moving on
2364
01:50:46,407 --> 01:50:48,073
but Chesley really
believed in him
2365
01:50:48,075 --> 01:50:50,776
and said, "Come see
Stevie Ray Vaughan"
2366
01:50:50,778 --> 01:50:51,944
"and Double Trouble".
2367
01:50:51,946 --> 01:50:53,879
I agreed, I sent a guy
2368
01:50:53,881 --> 01:50:55,914
instead of going
to Texas myself.
2369
01:50:56,917 --> 01:50:59,918
My friend, an
employee, a youngster,
2370
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:01,153
came back and said,
2371
01:51:01,155 --> 01:51:02,955
"We just gotta sign this guy."
2372
01:51:02,957 --> 01:51:05,324
"This is your cup of tea, Alex."
2373
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:07,993
I said, "Okay, so
what's the criteria?"
2374
01:51:07,995 --> 01:51:09,862
Chesley had given a mandate
2375
01:51:09,864 --> 01:51:11,730
that Stevie was working clubs.
2376
01:51:11,799 --> 01:51:14,233
Chesley Millikin
had given a mandate
2377
01:51:14,235 --> 01:51:16,635
of no gig under $1000.
2378
01:51:17,004 --> 01:51:18,137
Hodges immediately
2379
01:51:18,139 --> 01:51:19,471
booked Vaughan
and Double Trouble
2380
01:51:19,473 --> 01:51:21,940
to support Greg Allman
at a show in Atlanta.
2381
01:51:21,942 --> 01:51:23,409
Shortly thereafter,
2382
01:51:23,411 --> 01:51:25,277
the guitarist who had
been trying his trade
2383
01:51:25,279 --> 01:51:27,112
in Austin for over a decade,
2384
01:51:27,114 --> 01:51:29,715
would finally transcend
theTexas club circuit.
2385
01:51:30,117 --> 01:51:32,217
On March 15th, 1983,
2386
01:51:32,219 --> 01:51:33,852
through John
Hammond's influence,
2387
01:51:33,854 --> 01:51:36,422
the band signed a record
deal with Epic Records,
2388
01:51:36,424 --> 01:51:38,257
a subsidiary of CBS.
2389
01:51:38,759 --> 01:51:40,292
Two days later,
2390
01:51:40,294 --> 01:51:42,695
the title track from David
Bowie's forthcoming album
2391
01:51:42,697 --> 01:51:44,596
was released.
2392
01:51:44,598 --> 01:51:46,331
Let's Dance became the
fastest selling single
2393
01:51:46,333 --> 01:51:49,401
in the artist's 20
year recording career,
2394
01:51:49,403 --> 01:51:50,436
and his first US number one.
2395
01:51:50,438 --> 01:51:52,738
The album, issued in the April,
2396
01:51:52,740 --> 01:51:55,641
was equally successful, and
provided a perfect platform
2397
01:51:55,643 --> 01:51:58,777
to introduce Stevie Ray
Vaughan to a global audience.
2398
01:52:15,496 --> 01:52:16,995
♪ Let's dance
2399
01:52:18,299 --> 01:52:22,568
♪ Put on your red shoes
and dance the blues
2400
01:52:23,838 --> 01:52:25,304
♪ Let's dance
2401
01:52:26,006 --> 01:52:30,409
♪ To the sound their
playing on the radio
2402
01:52:32,279 --> 01:52:33,779
♪ Let's dance
2403
01:52:33,848 --> 01:52:38,684
The Bowie connection
was a mantle of significance
2404
01:52:38,686 --> 01:52:42,521
to this new, at that time,
unknown guitar player.
2405
01:52:42,523 --> 01:52:45,124
Mick Ronson, Earl
Slick, Carl,
2406
01:52:45,126 --> 01:52:47,459
later Reeve,
2407
01:52:48,195 --> 01:52:51,196
We better pay attention,
this guy knows talent.
2408
01:52:51,198 --> 01:52:54,500
With saxophone, Bowie had
discovered David Sandborn.
2409
01:52:55,636 --> 01:52:58,337
These are some of
my favorite players,
2410
01:52:58,339 --> 01:53:00,405
that David Bowie had introduced.
2411
01:53:00,407 --> 01:53:04,476
He seemed to have a
very keen ear and eye
2412
01:53:04,478 --> 01:53:08,113
for taking unknown talent
2413
01:53:08,115 --> 01:53:10,716
but integrating it into
his music brilliantly.
2414
01:53:24,932 --> 01:53:25,931
♪ Let's dance
2415
01:53:25,933 --> 01:53:27,366
It's a disco song,
2416
01:53:27,368 --> 01:53:29,234
and it's a number
one dance single.
2417
01:53:29,236 --> 01:53:31,503
There's a break in
there where you hear
2418
01:53:31,505 --> 01:53:33,005
Texas blues.
2419
01:53:33,007 --> 01:53:37,442
There's a genuineness that I
don't pick up in Mick Ronson.
2420
01:53:37,444 --> 01:53:39,444
Mick Ronson, great technician,
2421
01:53:39,446 --> 01:53:41,880
figured out a lot
of different styles
2422
01:53:41,882 --> 01:53:43,382
and plays them all very well.
2423
01:53:44,318 --> 01:53:45,918
This is the Texas difference,
2424
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,920
and this is where
when you get the blues
2425
01:53:48,722 --> 01:53:49,888
it's the old line,
2426
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:51,089
"You can't live in Texas"
2427
01:53:51,091 --> 01:53:52,424
"if you don't have
a lot of soul".
2428
01:53:52,426 --> 01:53:54,660
I can't qualify that soul.
2429
01:53:54,662 --> 01:53:56,695
It's just either you
got it or you don't.
2430
01:53:57,331 --> 01:53:59,131
You listen to Let's Dance
2431
01:53:59,133 --> 01:54:00,632
and that little guitar track
2432
01:54:00,634 --> 01:54:03,702
in the middle, on the
break - that's soul.
2433
01:54:04,438 --> 01:54:06,672
Not only had
Vaughan made an impact
2434
01:54:06,674 --> 01:54:08,140
with his appearance
on the record,
2435
01:54:08,142 --> 01:54:10,442
by late April, he was
also beginning rehearsals
2436
01:54:10,444 --> 01:54:11,977
with Bowie's band
for the singer's
2437
01:54:11,979 --> 01:54:13,812
Serious Moonlight world tour.
2438
01:54:13,814 --> 01:54:16,315
With an offer for the
guitarist in Double Trouble
2439
01:54:16,317 --> 01:54:18,050
to also open certain shows,
2440
01:54:18,052 --> 01:54:19,751
this appeared the
perfect vehicle
2441
01:54:19,753 --> 01:54:21,920
to expose them to
a global audience.
2442
01:54:21,922 --> 01:54:24,022
Yet there were conflicts,
2443
01:54:24,024 --> 01:54:26,024
with Epic also wishing
to release the recordings
2444
01:54:26,026 --> 01:54:28,760
made at Jackson Brown's
studio the previous November
2445
01:54:28,762 --> 01:54:30,128
as a debut album.
2446
01:54:30,130 --> 01:54:31,530
Jack Chase,
2447
01:54:31,532 --> 01:54:33,966
who was overseeing the
marketing of this proposed LP
2448
01:54:33,968 --> 01:54:35,567
across the southwest for Epic,
2449
01:54:35,569 --> 01:54:37,202
was among a number of skeptics,
2450
01:54:37,204 --> 01:54:38,804
who believed that the Bowie tour
2451
01:54:38,806 --> 01:54:41,406
might in fact prove detrimental
to Vaughan's career.
2452
01:54:41,408 --> 01:54:43,542
If we didn't break them,
2453
01:54:43,544 --> 01:54:46,378
the rest of the
country at that point
2454
01:54:46,380 --> 01:54:47,579
was going to say,
2455
01:54:47,581 --> 01:54:49,448
If you can't get him
broken out of Texas,
2456
01:54:49,450 --> 01:54:53,886
why should we play them in New
York or Seattle or whatever?
2457
01:54:54,722 --> 01:54:57,623
Jesse came over and we
talked about it and so on.
2458
01:54:59,159 --> 01:55:02,194
He asked me what I thought
and what I could do.
2459
01:55:02,196 --> 01:55:05,130
I told him, "On a new
artist like this,"
2460
01:55:05,132 --> 01:55:09,368
"it really takes us working
together with the group,"
2461
01:55:09,370 --> 01:55:14,373
and so on, and that my feeling
was him playing with David
2462
01:55:14,875 --> 01:55:19,011
was going to get him
seen by a lot of people,
2463
01:55:19,013 --> 01:55:22,080
but what was it going
to do with his career,
2464
01:55:22,082 --> 01:55:24,917
as far as working
this new album?
2465
01:55:24,919 --> 01:55:28,820
I told him, "When you release
a new artist in the fall,"
2466
01:55:28,889 --> 01:55:30,155
"a new artist."
2467
01:55:30,157 --> 01:55:33,358
"You're not going to get
anything done with him"
2468
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,261
"because all the superstars
come out with their artists,"
2469
01:55:36,263 --> 01:55:39,064
"and you release a new artist
like Stevie Ray Vaughan."
2470
01:55:39,066 --> 01:55:42,834
"He's going to be put way
in the back of the store,"
2471
01:55:42,836 --> 01:55:45,704
"and you're going to lose
focus on that artist."
2472
01:55:45,706 --> 01:55:48,807
He seemed to understand
what I was saying,
2473
01:55:48,809 --> 01:55:51,243
and he said, "Let
me call you back,"
2474
01:55:51,245 --> 01:55:52,744
"and we'll talk to Stevie".
2475
01:55:52,746 --> 01:55:54,513
He came back about three hours
2476
01:55:54,515 --> 01:55:56,415
and said, "Stevie's
off the tour".
2477
01:55:56,417 --> 01:55:58,116
It was a key moment
2478
01:55:58,118 --> 01:55:59,451
in the young artist's career.
2479
01:55:59,453 --> 01:56:01,219
Immediately following
the announcement,
2480
01:56:01,221 --> 01:56:03,422
the music press began
to ask questions
2481
01:56:03,424 --> 01:56:05,157
about this young Texan upstart
2482
01:56:05,159 --> 01:56:06,658
who had walked out on Bowie.
2483
01:56:06,660 --> 01:56:08,994
Yet, what appeared
to be career suicide,
2484
01:56:08,996 --> 01:56:12,197
instead gave Vaughan an unprecedented amount of publicity,
2485
01:56:12,199 --> 01:56:15,100
only a month before the
issuing of his debut album.
2486
01:56:15,102 --> 01:56:17,536
Seizing on this
unexpected good fortune,
2487
01:56:17,538 --> 01:56:19,404
Stevie and the band went to work
2488
01:56:19,406 --> 01:56:21,340
promoting their
forthcoming release.
2489
01:56:21,342 --> 01:56:23,141
He worked
every radio station,
2490
01:56:23,143 --> 01:56:25,577
every club he wanted to work,
2491
01:56:25,579 --> 01:56:27,179
every end store.
2492
01:56:27,181 --> 01:56:29,181
I'll say this about Stevie,
2493
01:56:29,183 --> 01:56:31,683
it was always true from
then until the end.
2494
01:56:31,685 --> 01:56:34,686
Stevie was an artist
that never said no.
2495
01:56:34,688 --> 01:56:37,456
He did every end store
you wanted him to do,
2496
01:56:37,458 --> 01:56:41,093
no matter what his
physical condition was.
2497
01:56:42,096 --> 01:56:44,129
He would do everything.
2498
01:56:44,131 --> 01:56:45,397
He'd sign every autograph.
2499
01:56:45,399 --> 01:56:47,032
He would do everything
you wanted him to do,
2500
01:56:47,034 --> 01:56:49,568
and that made a big deal for us.
2501
01:56:49,570 --> 01:56:52,137
Tommy and Chris were the same,
2502
01:56:52,139 --> 01:56:53,972
they would do everything for us,
2503
01:56:53,974 --> 01:56:55,874
so that made a big difference.
2504
01:56:55,876 --> 01:56:57,476
With over a decade
2505
01:56:57,478 --> 01:56:59,411
as a professional
musician behind him,
2506
01:56:59,413 --> 01:57:02,214
in June 1983, Stevie Ray Vaughan
2507
01:57:02,216 --> 01:57:05,317
finally saw his work
released to the public.
2508
01:57:05,319 --> 01:57:06,918
Although it divided
critics at the time,
2509
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:08,887
Texas Flood would
become a landmark
2510
01:57:08,889 --> 01:57:09,955
in popular music.
2511
01:57:09,957 --> 01:57:12,424
The album that
revitalized a genre
2512
01:57:12,426 --> 01:57:13,558
written off as irrelevant,
2513
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,926
and introduced the world
2514
01:57:14,928 --> 01:57:17,195
to one of the greatest
guitarists of all time.
2515
01:57:17,197 --> 01:57:19,898
Texas Flood is one
of the great debut albums.
2516
01:57:19,900 --> 01:57:21,900
I think one thing
we have to remember,
2517
01:57:21,902 --> 01:57:24,703
is that by the time he
comes to record this,
2518
01:57:24,705 --> 01:57:26,805
Stevie Ray Vaughan
is 29 years old.
2519
01:57:26,807 --> 01:57:29,408
There's a maturity
there already.
2520
01:57:29,410 --> 01:57:31,043
He's comfortable in his skin.
2521
01:57:31,045 --> 01:57:34,579
He's taken all of
his influences,
2522
01:57:34,581 --> 01:57:39,584
and he wears them on his
sleeve pretty openly.
2523
01:57:42,156 --> 01:57:45,257
He's learned what
to do with them,
2524
01:57:45,259 --> 01:57:49,161
and how to blend them
into his own sound.
2525
01:57:49,496 --> 01:57:52,364
I sometimes think,
listening to Texas Flood,
2526
01:57:52,366 --> 01:57:54,166
that nobody should be allowed
2527
01:57:54,168 --> 01:57:57,169
to make their debut album
until they're nearly 30.
2528
01:57:57,171 --> 01:57:59,838
Because there's
a strength there,
2529
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,842
it's fully formed,
it's fully developed.
2530
01:58:09,650 --> 01:58:12,918
♪ Well I'm a love
struck baby, I must confess
2531
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,687
♪ Life without you
darlin' is a solid mess
2532
01:58:15,689 --> 01:58:18,457
♪ Thinkin' bout you baby
gives me such a thrill
2533
01:58:18,459 --> 01:58:21,393
♪ I gotta have you
baby, can't get my fill
2534
01:58:21,395 --> 01:58:25,263
♪ I love you baby and
I know just what to do
2535
01:58:26,900 --> 01:58:29,768
♪ I still remember
and let it be said
2536
01:58:29,770 --> 01:58:32,504
♪ The way you make me
feel take a fool to forget
2537
01:58:32,506 --> 01:58:35,340
♪ I swore a ton of bricks
had hit me in the head
2538
01:58:35,342 --> 01:58:38,210
♪ And what you do little
baby ain't over it yet ♪
2539
01:58:38,212 --> 01:58:43,215
I first heard Stevie
Ray Vaughan in April 1983.
2540
01:58:45,252 --> 01:58:47,486
It was on a cassette,
it was a promotional.
2541
01:58:47,488 --> 01:58:51,156
I was in my '66
LeMans, Pontiac LeMans
2542
01:58:51,158 --> 01:58:53,091
and I drove from
the radio station
2543
01:58:53,093 --> 01:58:54,359
over to get a hamburger,
2544
01:58:54,361 --> 01:58:56,394
and I popped this thing in,
2545
01:58:56,396 --> 01:59:01,199
and Pride and Joy was the
second song on side one
2546
01:59:01,201 --> 01:59:03,401
and I thought, "This
is really good".
2547
01:59:04,438 --> 01:59:08,473
The thing is, it didn't
sound like anything else
2548
01:59:08,475 --> 01:59:10,475
in America at the time.
2549
01:59:10,811 --> 01:59:14,513
♪ Yeah I love my
baby, my heart and soul
2550
01:59:15,082 --> 01:59:18,316
♪ Love like ours
won't never grow old
2551
01:59:18,318 --> 01:59:20,352
♪ She's my sweet little thing
2552
01:59:21,355 --> 01:59:23,922
♪ She's my pride and joy
2553
01:59:25,058 --> 01:59:30,061
♪ She's my sweet little baby,
I'm her little lover boy
2554
01:59:32,332 --> 01:59:36,434
♪ Yeah I love my baby,
she's long and lean
2555
01:59:36,436 --> 01:59:40,138
♪ You mess with her, you'll
see a man gettin' mean
2556
01:59:40,140 --> 01:59:42,240
♪ She's my sweet little thing
2557
01:59:42,242 --> 01:59:43,875
Let's be honest, okay?
2558
01:59:43,877 --> 01:59:47,312
It was Men at Work
and Duran Duran
2559
01:59:47,314 --> 01:59:49,915
and The New Romantics, okay?
2560
01:59:49,917 --> 01:59:53,318
Boy George and Culture Club.
2561
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:55,220
I mean, these people were
at the top of the charts.
2562
01:59:55,222 --> 01:59:59,824
Even if you go rock,
you've got Rush and ACDC.
2563
01:59:59,826 --> 02:00:02,060
Selling gazillions of records.
2564
02:00:02,062 --> 02:00:04,496
Police, Synchronicity
was that year.
2565
02:00:04,498 --> 02:00:07,032
Believe me, I can
rattle off to you
2566
02:00:07,034 --> 02:00:10,035
the big albums that
came out in 1983.
2567
02:00:10,037 --> 02:00:12,904
Blockbuster, multi-million
sellers, okay?
2568
02:00:12,906 --> 02:00:17,275
It's like a tugboat among
all these big battleships.
2569
02:00:17,277 --> 02:00:20,712
The tugboat was Stevie Ray
Vaughan and Double Trouble
2570
02:00:20,714 --> 02:00:22,314
was this Texas Flood album.
2571
02:00:22,316 --> 02:00:25,584
This was the only
flavor like that.
2572
02:00:26,887 --> 02:00:30,255
I was the program director
and the music director.
2573
02:00:30,257 --> 02:00:33,358
I went back to my station
in Memphis, Rock 103.
2574
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,962
We added Pride and Joy what's
called "out of the box",
2575
02:00:36,964 --> 02:00:39,197
meaning the first
week it's available
2576
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:42,133
to play on the
radio, we added it.
2577
02:01:04,758 --> 02:01:06,157
I've always been foolish
2578
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:09,060
for songs like Love Struck
Baby and Pride and Joy.
2579
02:01:09,062 --> 02:01:12,197
He synthesized,
learned all the stuff,
2580
02:01:12,199 --> 02:01:13,965
and then spat it back
out, and that's his.
2581
02:01:14,034 --> 02:01:16,201
It's not someone else's song.
2582
02:01:16,203 --> 02:01:18,236
Texas Flood the album
announces to the world,
2583
02:01:18,238 --> 02:01:20,538
"Hey folks, Texas
blues is back."
2584
02:01:20,540 --> 02:01:23,241
"It's dominant, it's
better than ever".
2585
02:01:24,645 --> 02:01:29,648
Yet, Lenny, this is
Stevie Ray Vaughan
2586
02:01:29,783 --> 02:01:31,916
the complete musician.
2587
02:02:14,194 --> 02:02:15,994
Lenny's like a whole other side
2588
02:02:15,996 --> 02:02:21,032
and that's the first hint, this
guy isn't just a blues man.
2589
02:02:21,535 --> 02:02:24,703
He isn't just a power
trio band leader.
2590
02:02:24,705 --> 02:02:28,873
He is truly a great guitarist.
2591
02:02:28,875 --> 02:02:32,677
And instrumentalist
of his own right.
2592
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,614
That's transcending
whatever kind of categories
2593
02:02:36,616 --> 02:02:38,216
you want to stuff him into,
2594
02:02:38,218 --> 02:02:40,752
so that album, wow.
2595
02:02:41,955 --> 02:02:43,822
Following
the album's release,
2596
02:02:43,824 --> 02:02:45,557
the band immediately
hit the road,
2597
02:02:45,559 --> 02:02:48,460
playing shows across
the US and Canada,
2598
02:02:48,462 --> 02:02:49,794
as well as the Redding
Festival in the UK
2599
02:02:49,796 --> 02:02:52,330
and a subsequent European tour.
2600
02:02:52,332 --> 02:02:53,765
Yet, to reach larger audiences,
2601
02:02:53,767 --> 02:02:55,934
Vaughan was still going
to have to open shows
2602
02:02:55,936 --> 02:02:57,535
for more popular artists.
2603
02:02:57,537 --> 02:03:00,004
With a sound that was
so conspicuously absent
2604
02:03:00,006 --> 02:03:01,439
from the modern marketplace,
2605
02:03:01,441 --> 02:03:03,441
looking for the right
supporting slots
2606
02:03:03,443 --> 02:03:05,443
in which to fit the
band proved difficult.
2607
02:03:05,445 --> 02:03:07,712
Although they were
placed on bills
2608
02:03:07,714 --> 02:03:09,614
opening for
contemporary artists,
2609
02:03:09,616 --> 02:03:11,383
Alex Hodges also considered
2610
02:03:11,385 --> 02:03:13,752
booking them to support
older classic rock acts.
2611
02:03:13,754 --> 02:03:17,088
This led to their first arena
tour with the Moody Blues.
2612
02:03:17,090 --> 02:03:18,923
We debated that.
2613
02:03:18,925 --> 02:03:21,459
My own staff said,
"Don't do that."
2614
02:03:21,461 --> 02:03:22,994
"It's too old of an audience."
2615
02:03:22,996 --> 02:03:26,164
I thought that this audience
2616
02:03:26,166 --> 02:03:28,933
would appreciate
Stevie's music, A.
2617
02:03:28,935 --> 02:03:32,904
B, Stevie would be geared
to just blow them away.
2618
02:03:32,906 --> 02:03:36,574
And, also that he would
be on a big stage.
2619
02:03:36,576 --> 02:03:38,376
It was an arena tour
2620
02:03:38,378 --> 02:03:42,013
when we accepted the opportunity
to go out with Moody Blues.
2621
02:03:42,015 --> 02:03:43,882
We did it, and that worked.
2622
02:03:43,884 --> 02:03:46,217
We bridged the gap between
2623
02:03:46,219 --> 02:03:48,753
a little bit
younger audience who
2624
02:03:48,755 --> 02:03:51,122
was finding him in the clubs
2625
02:03:51,124 --> 02:03:52,557
they're going to
listen to his records,
2626
02:03:52,559 --> 02:03:55,393
and take an advantage to
some of that style of music
2627
02:03:56,329 --> 02:03:59,397
that was out there and that
had been so successful.
2628
02:03:59,399 --> 02:04:01,633
Shortly
after the closing show
2629
02:04:01,635 --> 02:04:04,302
of The Moody Blues
tour in December 1983,
2630
02:04:04,304 --> 02:04:06,504
Vaughan headed to
Ontario, Canada,
2631
02:04:06,506 --> 02:04:09,040
to be reunited with
Blues legend Albert King.
2632
02:04:09,042 --> 02:04:12,377
The performance filmed
for the In Session tv show
2633
02:04:12,379 --> 02:04:14,913
saw a guitarist who had
suddenly been propelled
2634
02:04:14,915 --> 02:04:17,282
to international fame,
return to the music
2635
02:04:17,284 --> 02:04:18,416
that had taken him there,
2636
02:04:18,418 --> 02:04:20,752
alongside his
greatest inspiration.
2637
02:04:44,644 --> 02:04:47,078
With Texas Flood,
Stevie Ray Vaughan
2638
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:50,081
demonstrated his
mastery of the guitar.
2639
02:04:50,083 --> 02:04:52,484
When he recorded
with Albert King,
2640
02:04:52,486 --> 02:04:56,054
he showed his
ability to lay back.
2641
02:04:57,991 --> 02:05:00,492
♪ Born under a bad sign
2642
02:05:02,762 --> 02:05:06,030
♪ I been down since
I begin to crawl
2643
02:05:07,601 --> 02:05:09,634
♪ If it wasn't for bad luck,
2644
02:05:09,636 --> 02:05:12,704
♪ I wouldn't have no luck at all
2645
02:05:16,977 --> 02:05:21,646
♪ Hard luck and trouble
is my only friend
2646
02:05:21,648 --> 02:05:25,750
♪ I been on my own
ever since I was ten
2647
02:05:25,752 --> 02:05:28,653
♪ Born under a bad sign
2648
02:05:30,957 --> 02:05:34,325
♪ I been down since
I begin to crawl
2649
02:05:35,328 --> 02:05:39,330
It's very impressive, the
extent to which Stevie
2650
02:05:39,332 --> 02:05:44,135
was able to feed and
nurture young musicians.
2651
02:05:44,137 --> 02:05:45,537
Young musicians
2652
02:05:45,539 --> 02:05:48,606
often want to blow
the music away
2653
02:05:48,608 --> 02:05:49,874
and he held back.
2654
02:05:49,876 --> 02:05:53,211
It was reverential in a way.
2655
02:05:53,213 --> 02:05:55,079
A great amount of respect.
2656
02:05:55,081 --> 02:05:58,850
That was the best
validation of all,
2657
02:05:58,852 --> 02:06:00,785
because that was the bad ass
2658
02:06:00,787 --> 02:06:03,488
who would never give
anyone any quarter,
2659
02:06:03,490 --> 02:06:06,357
acknowledging "This is my guy."
2660
02:06:06,359 --> 02:06:08,626
"This guy does it, he
does it like I do it."
2661
02:06:08,628 --> 02:06:10,828
"He may even do it better"
2662
02:06:10,830 --> 02:06:12,797
"but I respect the
hell out of him."
2663
02:06:12,799 --> 02:06:14,766
Getting respect from Albert King
2664
02:06:14,768 --> 02:06:16,935
does not - you can't buy that.
2665
02:06:35,121 --> 02:06:37,589
Very few players
could play Albert King
2666
02:06:37,591 --> 02:06:39,924
and do it well, and
do it authentically,
2667
02:06:39,926 --> 02:06:42,360
and get Albert King
to even acknowledge,
2668
02:06:42,362 --> 02:06:44,329
"Hey, they can do
me pretty good".
2669
02:06:44,331 --> 02:06:45,964
Stevie was that one guy,
2670
02:06:45,966 --> 02:06:49,968
and to me, that's
when you realize,
2671
02:06:49,970 --> 02:06:52,437
this is not a local thing.
2672
02:06:52,439 --> 02:06:53,638
This is not a fluke.
2673
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:55,807
This got nothing to
do with management,
2674
02:06:55,809 --> 02:06:58,476
or talent scouts,
or record labels.
2675
02:06:58,478 --> 02:07:02,747
This is a musican
getting respect
2676
02:07:02,749 --> 02:07:04,882
from the musician
he respected most.
2677
02:07:05,852 --> 02:07:08,886
Having both
reinvigorated Texas blues
2678
02:07:08,888 --> 02:07:11,055
and firmly established
himself internationally,
2679
02:07:11,057 --> 02:07:12,757
over the following years,
2680
02:07:12,759 --> 02:07:14,692
Vaughan would blaze
a distinctive trail
2681
02:07:14,694 --> 02:07:16,427
through the contemporary
music world.
2682
02:07:16,429 --> 02:07:18,963
Stevie loved
to come to Antone's
2683
02:07:18,965 --> 02:07:20,999
and just walk up
there with his buddies
2684
02:07:21,001 --> 02:07:22,400
and play some blues.
2685
02:07:22,402 --> 02:07:25,870
I don't think he liked
anything better than that
2686
02:07:25,872 --> 02:07:29,073
but when it came time
for him to write songs
2687
02:07:29,075 --> 02:07:31,242
or make record, I don't think
2688
02:07:31,244 --> 02:07:34,145
he wanted to be limited
to just playing blues.
2689
02:07:34,147 --> 02:07:36,681
Stevie became a rock star.
2690
02:07:36,683 --> 02:07:38,116
When I say rock, that means,
2691
02:07:38,118 --> 02:07:39,283
you can be a blues man,
2692
02:07:39,285 --> 02:07:41,119
but rock star is
something much bigger,
2693
02:07:41,121 --> 02:07:43,988
and more all-encompassing.
2694
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:46,024
People were hearing him
2695
02:07:46,026 --> 02:07:48,826
in a different context
then matched up
2696
02:07:48,828 --> 02:07:50,928
with Albert King or Larry Davis.
2697
02:07:50,930 --> 02:07:53,131
It's a new period
of exploration.
2698
02:07:53,133 --> 02:07:55,333
You don't know where he's
really going to go with it
2699
02:07:55,335 --> 02:07:58,269
but he's definitely
out of his comfort zone
2700
02:07:58,271 --> 02:08:00,505
and taking more risks.
2701
02:08:00,507 --> 02:08:02,106
Yet these risks,
2702
02:08:02,108 --> 02:08:04,375
included seriously
jeopardizing his health.
2703
02:08:04,377 --> 02:08:06,544
As his popularity soared,
2704
02:08:06,546 --> 02:08:08,246
Vaughan's lifestyle of excess
2705
02:08:08,248 --> 02:08:09,847
would spiral out of control.
2706
02:08:09,849 --> 02:08:12,350
The end of the final
decade of his life,
2707
02:08:12,352 --> 02:08:13,985
was however remarkable,
2708
02:08:13,987 --> 02:08:17,288
not only for his
successful rehabilitation,
2709
02:08:17,290 --> 02:08:18,790
but for the renewed
passion he brought
2710
02:08:18,792 --> 02:08:19,891
to his music.
2711
02:08:19,893 --> 02:08:21,526
The schedule
is so hectic,
2712
02:08:21,528 --> 02:08:25,129
and so supported in that way,
2713
02:08:25,131 --> 02:08:26,330
because you just keep going,
2714
02:08:26,332 --> 02:08:28,032
because there's money
to be made, right?
2715
02:08:28,034 --> 02:08:31,602
The human element and
suffering gets taken out.
2716
02:08:32,439 --> 02:08:35,106
He's getting frail,
he's trying to keep up.
2717
02:08:35,108 --> 02:08:38,476
He knows there's issues
he's trying to deal with
2718
02:08:38,478 --> 02:08:40,478
and this isn't the way
to be dealing with them.
2719
02:08:40,480 --> 02:08:41,679
It was a new beginning.
2720
02:08:41,681 --> 02:08:43,614
It was like, "Okay,
this is my bottom."
2721
02:08:43,616 --> 02:08:45,349
"I don't have many
choices here."
2722
02:08:45,351 --> 02:08:49,587
"It's either I die,
I end up in jail,"
2723
02:08:49,589 --> 02:08:50,755
"or I get better."
2724
02:08:50,757 --> 02:08:51,956
He was concerned
2725
02:08:51,958 --> 02:08:54,792
about, would he have
the fire in his plan
2726
02:08:54,794 --> 02:08:56,527
that he had before.
2727
02:08:56,529 --> 02:08:58,429
He just didn't know,
2728
02:08:58,431 --> 02:09:00,264
because he'd never gone
through rehab before.
2729
02:09:01,434 --> 02:09:03,201
It turned out to be
a groundless worry.
2730
02:09:03,203 --> 02:09:05,970
All he had to do was
look into the In Step album.
2731
02:09:05,972 --> 02:09:10,608
The sound was unbelievable.
2732
02:09:10,610 --> 02:09:12,376
What happens is, over time,
2733
02:09:12,378 --> 02:09:14,645
you don't realize how
sloppy somebody gets
2734
02:09:14,647 --> 02:09:17,482
when they're in the
throes of substance abuse.
2735
02:09:17,484 --> 02:09:19,884
It all came together.
2736
02:09:19,886 --> 02:09:21,185
It all became in focus.
2737
02:09:21,187 --> 02:09:24,088
This really healthy
Stevie Ray Vaughan
2738
02:09:24,090 --> 02:09:28,192
playing just outside of himself
2739
02:09:28,194 --> 02:09:31,629
and singing like he'd
never sung before.
2740
02:09:31,631 --> 02:09:34,031
To me, what's important
2741
02:09:34,033 --> 02:09:36,634
about the life and
music and legacy
2742
02:09:36,636 --> 02:09:38,136
of Stevie Ray Vaughan
2743
02:09:38,138 --> 02:09:40,071
is that he confronted
his demons,
2744
02:09:40,073 --> 02:09:43,207
and he won.
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