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Boy is that ever incendiary, right?
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Yeah. Jesus Christ.
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Yes, it is.
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That's just an outrage.
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That's just a fucking outrage.
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Hey, how are you?
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We just got their autopsy report.
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Give me your fax number,
so I can fax it to you.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Right.
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Eight-seven-two-two.
I'll fax it right now, and then...
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I'll call you back.
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Oh, Jesus.
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Me again.
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I wanna fax...
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We just got the autopsy report.
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Can I fax it to you?
Are you at your office?
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I have to go back to court at 2:30,
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and the press is trying
to unseal this thing,
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so I need to talk with you some
before 2:30.
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OK.
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I'll get it to you right away.
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Thank you. Bye-bye.
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Hey Faris, I got this autopsy
on this Germany thing.
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As soon as you take a look at it,
would you call me?
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Well, they concluded these injuries were
a result of a homicidal attack,
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so I need for you to take a look at this.
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Let me call Butts about this language.
This is just...
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I mean, I've read...
How many autopsies have we read?
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I've never seen that.
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Never.
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Hi, is John Butts around, please?
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Thank you.
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Dave Rudolf.
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I got a question for you.
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I've read 260 autopsies
from blunt trauma to the head,
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and never once did I see
any of your people say,
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"The inflicted trauma is
clearly from a homicidal assault."
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Alright, well, could you call me...
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Could you call me back
after you get done?
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Yeah, I appreciate it.
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Thanks.
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Outrageous.
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I just know that my mom died in '85.
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I think it was the winter of '85.
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And...
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she, she...
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I know that she died
of a brain hemorrhage.
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She had been having
many headaches before.
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I mean, there's people,
many people have said this,
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that she called her mother,
complaining of headaches.
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She hated doctors,
like I don't like doctors, either.
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Neither does Martha. Um...
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So she didn't want to go see one,
no matter how much, you know,
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Dad... Mike and Patty, I guess,
told her to go.
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And she basically died
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before she even hit
the bottom of the stairs.
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And I think it's interesting,
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you know, that they both were
found at the bottom of the stairs,
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but at the same time,
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the two things they had in common,
besides being my mothers,
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were that Dad loved them both
very, very, very much,
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and he would have never, ever,
hurt either of them,
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so I think that's what they have in common
more than anything malicious.
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So...
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The autopsy report released this afternoon
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details how this woman died
more than a decade ago.
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The Ratliff autopsy report says
her fatal wounds
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appear to be the result
of several blows to the head,
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injuries that happened
while Ratliff was still alive.
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Those injuries came
from a homicidal assault.
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That's inflammatory.
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That's not a doctor...
That's what a jury determines.
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Now, the Peterson defense team hopes
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this report will not prejudice
potential jurors.
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Alright,
it gets curiouser and curiouser.
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You can read the entire autopsy report
on our website at abc11tv.com.
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I've had one of my biggest fuckings
in court ever.
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The judge unsealed all this stuff.
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You know, this new autopsy...
The headlines tonight are:
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"Homicidal Assault." Just outrageous.
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Anyway,
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I think I'm gonna need to call
these people as witnesses on Wednesday,
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and I think I'm gonna need your presence
here to help me cross-examine them.
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Yeah, and we're gonna have to...
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You know, I'm gonna have to
cross-examine them pretty vigorously,
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I think, so yes.
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Yes, I want you to be there
when he testifies,
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so that we can cross-examine him.
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Alright?
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Well, if this is admitted
the way it stands,
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the one that we got
from the Chapel Hill medical examiner...
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- Well, keep in mind it's not...
- Will that hurt your case?
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This doesn't get admitted.
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Somebody's gonna have to get up
on the witness stand and testify.
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And that's really sorta the unfairness
of this current procedure.
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You know, what gets released
to the public right now
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is simply a one-sided report
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that we haven't had a chance
to ask any questions about.
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And I think that's
part of the problem here,
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is that, you know,
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all that gets put into the news media
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is you know,
a fairly inflammatory statement
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that is completely unnecessary
to the autopsy findings,
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and was just sorta gratuitous,
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and you know I don't blame you guys.
I mean, it was put in there
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because that's exactly
what you guys would gravitate to.
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Those aren't really lined up the way...
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They're not anything like Kathleen's.
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They are, interestingly enough,
mainly curved in some way.
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I don't know the significance of that.
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This one, this one, this one
are depicted as curved.
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This is kind of curved with a split.
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- And Kathleen's...
- That's really kinda unique.
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It's almost like something...
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Right, I don't know
what causes curvature, for example.
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Is that indicative of something?
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I don't think Kathleen's had
that kind of consistent...
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Let's get her autopsy.
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That's that's the same?
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The truth is these are spread out more.
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You've got the top and head,
you've got here. You've got the left.
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You've also got bruising
on the back and neck, which to me,
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- would be indicative of falling.
- Falling, right.
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I mean, how do you bang somebody
on the top of the head?
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Right.
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But that's why they have to say
it's either or.
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Right, except for then,
they admitted that, scientifically,
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you can't tell the difference.
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So these could have been caused
by the head hitting a surface,
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as opposed to, you know,
some kind of instrument, so what...
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You know, this is supposed to be
a signature thing.
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You know it's supposed to...
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There's supposed to be some way
in which these are similar.
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How does one... other than the fact
that they're both...
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found at the bottom of stairs?
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You get a false impression.
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I think a misleading impression
from the...
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Yeah, I was surprised,
when I saw the photographs,
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how close together they were.
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Those look like...
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pattern injuries,
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or crescent-shaped things
from some sort of instrument.
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When you look at the photographs,
I don't get that impression at all.
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No, I don't at all.
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Yeah, looking at the sketch, this...
It doesn't work for me.
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I mean, the pictures...
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That's the record,
the sketch is just simply that,
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but I don't think they truly reflect...
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very well, what is in these pictures.
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Here, the correspondence,
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I mean, if that's what they're relying on
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to reconstruct
and to draw conclusions on,
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this is very misleading.
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- The diagram's very misleading.
- 'Cause these look like they're linear,
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curvilinear and simple.
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These are not simple,
they're very complex,
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and when you do this sort of thing,
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what sort of impacts produce
scalp lacerations like that?
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- Yeah.
- Probably not blows.
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I mean, what instrument would do that?
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I see.
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These are more clear,
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I think more characteristic of impacts
where the skin just the splits.
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Right.
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Well, the hearing tomorrow on Ratliff,
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I think, is probably
the most important hearing,
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may very well be the most
important day in court
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that we have in this entire case.
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I think that the evidence
about the death in Germany,
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if it comes in,
will have a substantial impact,
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even subconsciously on how the jurors
evaluate the evidence in this case.
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Even though there's not
a shred of evidence
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that Michael had anything to do
with Elizabeth Ratliff's death,
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the mere fact that it comes in evidence
will have an impact.
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So my view is that if we win
the motion tomorrow,
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and keep the Ratliff evidence out,
because it's not relevant.
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This is not a technicality.
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Because it's not relevant,
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and because the State can't show
that it's relevant,
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we will have a very good chance
of winning this trial,
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because the rest of the evidence, I think,
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is pretty minimal.
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Well, what we've done is,
we've subpoenaed their witnesses.
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We've subpoenaed Deborah Radisch
and some of the other doctors
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who have done the autopsies,
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and we want to put them on the stand
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and force them to do more
than just give their bare conclusions.
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Their reports are very bare-bones.
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What we want to do is,
we want to get them on the stand
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and be able to ask them the hard questions
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that they don't address
in their reports to show
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that the basis of their conclusions
is simply flawed.
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This is the kind of evidence
that can really prejudice
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and taint a trial unfairly.
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It's the kind of evidence that...
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courts have traditionally said
you just don't let in.
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In my opinion, the '85 death...
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If the State tried to introduce
evidence of that in the Court,
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it could come in any number of ways,
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for which I will listen
to arguments about.
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Has the State filed a motion to have
the Court consider Miss Ratliff's death?
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We are not a proponent
of that evidence at this point,
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and will not be until the Court
actually is involved in this trial
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and begins hearing evidence
of all these matters.
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Judge...
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two weeks ago or three weeks ago,
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you sat there and agreed
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that this was an issue,
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- particularly Ratliff.
- It is an issue.
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But that has to be decided
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before jury selection
for very good reasons.
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I'm not aware of any law
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that the Court can direct
the State to do that.
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- Now what the Court can do...
- I mean, I can...
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I'm not sure
there's North Carolina State law
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that the Court can order the State to do...
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I don't think you can
order them to do that.
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What you can do, is say,
"If you don't file the notice
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and have the hearing today,
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you're not going to be allowed
to introduce that evidence,
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because it's prejudicial to the defense."
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Let's just look at this
from a practical perspective.
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If I don't know whether or not
that's coming in,
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I've got to assume it is,
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and therefore, I'm going to spend
lots of time in opening statement
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talking to the jurors about that,
finding out what they think,
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and talking about the facts
and all that stuff.
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So now all of a sudden,
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Mr. Hardin says, "Judge, I'm sorry.
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We're not going to introduce."
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Now, are you going to instruct the
jury to disregard everything that I said
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in my opening statement?
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How is that...
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How are you gonna instruct them
to disregard what I said,
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and have me maintain
my credibility with a jury
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that is deciding my client's life?
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I believe, frankly, it would be
ineffective assistance of counsel
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for him not to deal with it,
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whether the evidence is admissible or not,
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because it's out there,
the news media spent three or four days
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using the same footage of the exhumation
down in Texas.
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It's still going on up until this morning,
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which raises another question
about all of these interviews
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that Mr. Rudolf likes to give
to the media about the evidence.
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My client wanted this trial to proceed
for a long time
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The DA delayed that exhumation
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for months and months and months.
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Now, two weeks before
or three weeks before trial,
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he decides to go ahead with an exhumation,
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and that is simply unfair.
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He did it intentionally.
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He did it knowingly.
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He stands here, and talks sanctimoniously
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about how I'm talking to the press...
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in response
to a medical examiner's report...
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- I knew you were gonna bring that up.
- Yeah.
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That gratuitously uses the term
"homicidal attack," or "assault,"
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and I'm supposed to sit back and allow
my client to be prejudiced by that.
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And by this show that he's put together.
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And just sit back and do nothing?
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The Court declines Mr. Rudolf,
in its discretion, to...
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determine the admissibility
of the death of Miss Ratliff...
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today and pre-trial.
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The Court, in its discretion,
will rule on its admissibility
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when proffered by the State
of North Carolina
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as evidence in this particular case.
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You know, I subpoenaed
all three medical examiners,
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and was prepared
to cross-examine all of them...
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- Today?
- Today!
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So why is it that it's OK
for them to write reports
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that have conclusions
like "homicidal assault,"
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and yet not have to get up
on a witness stand today?
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What is his sexual preference?
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What is whose sexual preference?
Mr. Hardin's?
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Your client's, not Mr. Hardin's.
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I don't know what Mr. Hardin's is.
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You know, would you really expect...
What's your sexual preference?
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- Come on.
- Your guy's on trial, I'm not.
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We can check that.
281
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Actually, I'm not going to answer
those kind of questions.
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Where's my client?
283
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You want to sit in the dining room,
or out here?
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- Out here is fine.
- Wherever is...
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Get out. You, go!
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- Get me a Diet Coke.
- Yeah. Go, out, get out.
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Where the hell is the silverware?
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That drawer on the right.
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In one of the top, bottom, second drawer.
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This second drawer?
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I keep the hot pads
and the other stuff in the top drawer.
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He keeps it right underneath the cupboard
with the bloody fingerprints.
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There is no doubt in my mind
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that those two guys knew exactly
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what was gonna happen
before that hearing started.
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I mean, the little speech
that Orlando did at the beginning.
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You know Hardin, it wasn't...
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You know, he didn't say to Hardin,
"Alright, you know, what are you...
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What are you talking about?
We're here for a hearing.
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You know?
301
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What do you mean, 'you don't think
we got to go forward'? I mean...
302
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on Monday, we sat here for three...
303
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All day talking about whether this hearing
should be closed or not.
304
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You didn't say anything then."
305
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,280
I just don't understand that.
I mean, what's in it for Judge Hudson?
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- To cooperate...
- You know...
307
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There's gotta be a payoff somewhere.
That's all I can say.
308
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I don't know what it is,
but there's something in it for him.
309
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There's something, maybe there's
a blowjob in it for him. I don't know.
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Do you have any doubt
that this was collusion?
311
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It struck me as being scripted.
312
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It was just choreographed.
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It was completely choreographed.
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I've been in front of lots of judges,
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with lots of prosecutors,
in lots of situations,
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and I've gotta tell you,
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I have never ever seen something
like that before. Never.
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I don't think David,
and I don't think Tom believed me,
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or anybody from the beginning,
320
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but when I said, "This isn't Chapel Hill,
321
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This isn't Raleigh, this isn't Charlotte.
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This isn't... This is Durham.
323
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It's unique, it's particular.
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It's dirty. It's corrupt. It's small.
325
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I don't think anybody knows this town
better than I do. And I...
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That's what I did for years,
and I told you guys from the beginning...
327
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- No, you did.
- This is it.
328
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I've had a personal relationship
with Orlando for years,
329
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and it never got through to me
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that it could affect him
personally in that way.
331
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Yeah, he's...
I just find him disgusting, but...
332
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So...
333
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The Ratliff stuff is coming into evidence.
334
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,800
- The gay stuff is coming into evidence.
- Sure!
335
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,840
Alright? So we've got to deal with it,
no matter what.
336
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,440
You can almost turn this
into a challenge to the DA.
337
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,360
We don't know whether it's coming in
or not, do we think it's a joke?
338
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,880
But these are the reasons why,
if you let you get into that,
339
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if he brings it in,
we'll talk about it then.
340
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080
Then, when it doesn't come in,
you look like a hero.
341
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,160
You look like you're real smart.
342
00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:48,480
For a change.
343
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Be nice.
344
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,600
The moral support here
is very important. You know?
345
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,640
This is going to be a long
and arduous trial.
346
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,160
- I just want you to know...
- He's only got one kidney.
347
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,560
I'm sick.
348
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,920
I want you to understand
that he makes these comments,
349
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,840
but you're the one
who's going to prison.
350
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It's coming in.
351
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,640
If it's coming in, and that's a given,
352
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,480
- then that's an assumption.
- It's coming in. It's coming in.
353
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,680
If that's the given, then I agree.
You've gotta go forward with it.
354
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,480
My presumption right now
355
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000
is that I'm going to take on
356
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,440
the Ratliff thing in some way,
I'm gonna...
357
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,800
in some way, present to the jury
358
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,680
that it's not fair to try this stuff
in the media.
359
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,280
It's not fair.
360
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,360
It's not our way to dig up bodies
two weeks before trial,
361
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,560
so that there's
a whole bunch of publicity.
362
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800
That doesn't satisfy
anybody's burden of proof.
363
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280
The only way you satisfy
a burden of proof
364
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,840
- is by bringing in the witness.
- Right.
365
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,560
You have that presumption of innocence
and the reasonable doubt.
366
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,120
They've got to overcome that.
367
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,600
The bar on reasonable doubt
has been raised significantly now,
368
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,080
in the light of the Ratliff,
so instead of being there,
369
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,760
which we could play it safe,
370
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,160
"They didn't prove this,"
there's alternative things.
371
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,040
With this coincidence,
it's now up to here.
372
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,320
Anyway, alright,
I think we're done.
373
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,360
You know, this was important
for you all to be a part of,
374
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,440
so that you know
what my thinking is, alright?
375
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,960
I think, this is what our thinking was
all along.
376
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,480
OK. Alright.
377
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,440
In terms of look and dress
and that tomorrow...
378
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,120
- Right.
- Alright? Your...
379
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960
- eyebrows need to be trimmed...
- OK.
380
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,760
- ...you need to be shaved...
- Right.
381
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,960
...you need to look neat,
you need to look rested.
382
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,520
- If you need to take a Valium...
- Sure.
383
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,520
...take a Valium, because you know what?
384
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,960
You're not going to be needing
to do anything other than zoning.
385
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,920
Right, I know that.
Well that's what I was...
386
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,960
- I don't have any Valium.
- Well, you know what?
387
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,920
- You don't need to fall asleep.
- No, no, no.
388
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,680
And also,
the other thing is, you know,
389
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,240
you're gonna probably hear some things
that are gonna be hard to hear.
390
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,920
And if somebody says,
"Well, we think he's absolutely guilty,"
391
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,920
and "Why aren't they seeking
the death penalty?"
392
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,720
Why don't we just lynch him right here?
393
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,680
Yeah, you're not gonna send them daggers,
394
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,440
which you don't seem like the kinda person
that would do that anyway.
395
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520
No, and you know, the truth is...
396
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,760
if somebody says that, the...
397
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,800
subliminal message,
the body language message needs to be,
398
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,480
"Thank you for being that honest."
399
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,120
The other thing is,
is because of the Ratliff thing,
400
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,160
it's very important
for Martha and Margaret...
401
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,920
- They've gotta be here.
- ...to be here for the whole trial.
402
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,520
That worked out really nicely...
403
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240
Because people have said
in the open-ended question,
404
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:59,240
and one of the reasons
they think you might not be guilty,
405
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,600
or that you have doubts,
406
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280
is that he has proclaimed his innocence,
407
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800
his lawyer is fighting,
saying he's innocent,
408
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,200
- and his family's sticking by him.
- Right.
409
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,320
Yeah, we were doing...
410
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,920
one of these corporate exercises
with the executive staff,
411
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,600
where you're supposed to tell something
personal about yourself.
412
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720
It's team-building, is what it is.
413
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,400
So one guy got up,
actually a very good friend of mine
414
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,880
He's since left the company,
415
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,120
but he said, "You know,
I always wanted to be a lawyer.
416
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,720
that was really what I wanted to do,
417
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,760
but then I found Jesus,
418
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,840
and I realized that being a Christian
419
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120
and being a lawyer
are completely incompatible."
420
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,360
True.
421
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,760
Yep.
422
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,280
Oh, God...
423
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,800
So you mean I really gotta shut
my mind off now basically for two months?
424
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
You can't read a book.
425
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Video games.
426
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560
I mean, you're just supposed to
sit there and look...
427
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,320
And don't stare at the jury.
428
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,680
- Don't stare at the jury.
- No.
429
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,040
'Cause it looks like
you're soliciting them.
430
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,000
They'll be looking at you a lot.
That's one thing you have to remember,
431
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,600
That you know, they are assessing
your behavior and conduct.
432
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,320
- They form opinions about how you behave.
- Dear God.
433
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,520
I need a double.
434
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,200
A standard Saddam Hussein double
to sit in for me.
435
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,960
Oh God.
436
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,800
I could sit in a dark, quiet room
for two months.
437
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,400
You know, Goethe used to say
that was a test of a man,
438
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,160
that if you could go...
439
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,640
If you could lock a man up in a dark room,
440
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760
nothing to read nothing to do, nothing.
441
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,280
Just his own thoughts.
442
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,480
That was Goethe's test of a man.
443
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
And I think, "Hell, anybody can do that."
444
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,120
I think, "No, he needs to rethink that.
The real test of a man
445
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,720
is to be able to sit there and listen
to Jim Hardin and Orlando Hudson.
446
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,640
The range just gonna go from 39 to...
447
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,800
51.
448
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,520
71, 72.
449
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,040
- 61 to 72.
- Right, that's these.
450
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,120
OK, those are in order.
451
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,840
And then I'm gonna go through
452
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
a whole long thing
about the relationship,
453
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:38,600
and I'm going to take them back to 1988,
and 1989, and 1992, and 1997,
454
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,200
and then I'm going to say, "And together,
455
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,560
they built a family
out of the various strands
456
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,480
of their prior families."
457
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840
Wait, wait wait, hold on.
458
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,120
I don't want to have that bar up there,
459
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520
'cause it's gonna distract them
from what I'm saying.
460
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Can you just keep it black screen
until I go to your cue,
461
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800
and then pop up with the picture?
462
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,240
- Right, you want the picture first. Yeah.
- The picture.
463
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,160
OK. Let's go back to the black screen.
464
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000
What is that thing in the middle there?
465
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,520
That's just a default bar
that doesn't have to show at all.
466
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,120
- I don't want it showing.
- OK. I can't get rid of it right now,
467
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,680
- but I can tonight. Yeah.
- OK. Yeah, let's get rid of the bar,
468
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,600
OK?
469
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,320
And what I'd like to do is...
470
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,920
When I...
471
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320
It's just my telephone. Sorry.
472
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,560
When I say...
473
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,440
"Together...
474
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600
they built a family out of the various
strands of their prior families,
475
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,800
- Caitlin"... Wait till I...
- I wanna get on the black screen.
476
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,520
That's right. I wanna go black screen.
477
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,680
OK, can you turn it on
before I even get up to speak,
478
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,400
and then go to black screen,
so we don't have to see that thing again.
479
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,320
Black? Do you mean...
You mean this?
480
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,760
You want that without this.
481
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,880
Can you lose that?
482
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,400
Yes, I can lose it.
I can't lose it right now,
483
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480
- but I can lose it.
- OK, but what I'm saying is,
484
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,960
you can just go...
485
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Can you lose the whole thing
so it's just a black screen,
486
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,120
and then it goes to the picture,
and then goes back.
487
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,200
- Yes, it looks like that.
- Yeah, that's all I want.
488
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,280
- OK.
- And then the next picture comes up.
489
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,240
When I say, "Together they built a family
490
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,360
out of the various strands
of their prior families,"
491
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,280
Yeah?
492
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,800
I'm leaving. You need anything?
493
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,360
No, we're great. Thank you very much.
494
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,440
Good night.
495
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,880
"Out of the various strands
of their prior families,"
496
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200
- put it up.
- OK, so they have something to look at.
497
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,520
- Exactly.
- Yep.
498
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,400
"We can see that the laceration
on the left, the V-shape one...
499
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480
is consistent with that corner,
the last..."
500
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,960
- Telephone.
- OK.
501
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,400
"The last impact that you saw on that..."
502
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,640
Got a little situation going on.
503
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,760
We've got smoke in the building,
downstairs.
504
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,680
So we may want to...
You think you can wrap it up for today?
505
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320
How much longer you think you're gonna be?
We may have to do an evacuation.
506
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,480
OK.
507
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,360
We don't know yet.
We haven't found it yet.
508
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,800
- We're looking for it.
- OK.
509
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Well, if we have to evacuate,
we're just going to have to.
510
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:17,240
You know, we'll do our best,
but just let us know, alright?
511
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,240
- If you see people running...
- I appreciate it.
512
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520
- ...we've got the fire department here.
- OK, thank you.
513
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,440
"The bottoms of her feet...
514
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,080
were covered in blood,
515
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,680
and how do we know that?
516
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800
- There's a photo of it.
- Do you want it right now?
517
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040
- Yes. No no no.
- Do you wanna prepare them for it?
518
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Well, that doesn't work.
519
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,840
- That doesn't work at all.
- You got this one. Oops.
520
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,840
No.
521
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Understand if one is off,
they're all gonna be off.
522
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,800
- And then I can put them in proper order.
- This is how it needs to be.
523
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,600
- I do understand that.
- It's right there.
524
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,000
I know that.
525
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,200
I know what I did wrong.
526
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520
I was doing it on the fly
before we started this.
527
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,920
I know what I did wrong.
528
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760
I made an error when I loaded them in.
529
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Right now...
530
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600
This system sucks,
531
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440
'cause I've done it
with presentation group,
532
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,920
and I had none of these problems.
533
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,120
None.
534
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,120
None, none.
535
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,280
And I am fucking pissed,
536
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,280
because it's 7:20,
the night before my opening,
537
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760
and you're fucking around with this.
538
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920
One of these documents is,
apparently, out of order.
539
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,080
I just don't know.
540
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,440
I cannot give you the documents
in the order that you want them.
541
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,560
All I can do right now is go through them.
542
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560
- I guarantee you they will be there.
- I don't want a guarantee.
543
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,160
I want to see it on the screen,
544
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,560
so I don't give a shit
if we're here all fucking night.
545
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Well, I'm not sure
that they will be, either.
546
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,720
I think so, but I don't know.
547
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,280
This case is no more
and no longer about Kathleen.
548
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,480
The DA has to win. That's it.
549
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,280
He doesn't care how, and basically...
550
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,280
By the same token,
my lawyer, they want to win.
551
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Truth is lost in all of this now.
552
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Truth is of no meaning whatsoever.
553
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,920
This has become a show,
554
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,480
and it has got its own momentum,
555
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,640
and we're just going along.
556
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,040
I don't think the DA cares
about truth anymore.
557
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,480
All he wants to do is win.
558
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,480
And I understand that.
I mean, sure.
559
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,520
And the same way with David.
He wants to win.
560
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Well, I want to win, too,
561
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,120
but I'm still very concerned about
the reality of what happened that night.
562
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Hey, guys.
563
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,960
Where's Mike?
564
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,760
- What's that?
- They hit a stoplight, my dad and Faris.
565
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,760
OK, I'll wait.
566
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,920
They're coming.
567
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Be nice. Be calm.
568
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,680
- You alright?
- Yeah.
569
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,720
- Pretty good, how are you doing?
- Good.
570
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Okay. You want me to get that, David?
571
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,640
- What's that?
- Want me to get that?
572
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Alright, Chris, we're gonna see
if you can beat us upstairs now.
573
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,560
We got a crew on that.
574
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,480
Thanks.
575
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,920
Alright, that's fine.
576
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840
- Alright, Hart.
- See ya up there, buddy.
577
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Run up now.
578
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
I wanna see you as I get out the elevator.
579
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Come on.
580
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Start with the 911,
and then...
581
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,680
- After the...
- After the...
582
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,840
- last headshot, then get the movie ready.
- Right.
583
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
- After the third laceration shot.
- Right.
584
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,440
OK.
585
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,720
Good morning to each of you.
586
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Good morning.
587
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,360
The core issues are simple,
588
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,160
but everything else about this case isn't.
589
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,240
In a very real sense
590
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,200
this case is about pretense
and appearances.
591
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,200
The defendant says
that Kathleen Peterson's death
592
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,920
was caused by a tragic, accidental fall
down stairs in their home.
593
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,840
And we say, on the other hand,
that she died a horrible, painful death
594
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560
at the hands of her husband,
Michael Peterson.
595
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,480
I've selected a couple of pictures for you
that really, in my mind,
596
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,720
show this diametric opposition.
597
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,440
The first photograph I'm going to show you
is of Kathleen.
598
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,440
This would have been taken...
599
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,560
This is how she would have looked...
600
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,200
prior to December the 9th of 2001,
601
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,720
had you seen her in her home
or possibly at work.
602
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,040
You can see from this photograph,
603
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,600
you can feel from this photograph,
604
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,360
that she's a very genteel, warm person.
605
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:04,040
Now, on December the 9th of 2001, at 2:48,
606
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,240
when EMS personnel first arrive,
607
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,160
they see Kathleen Peterson
in a completely different way.
608
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,560
They see her lying
at the bottom of her steps...
609
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,440
just as you see in this photograph.
610
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,280
Now, later that day,
611
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,960
after her body has been
removed from the home,
612
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,960
she's taken
to the medical examiner's office.
613
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,880
This is one of the first photographs
taken of her,
614
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:42,400
as she's lying on a steel gurney
in the medical examiner's office...
615
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,240
after they've shaved her head
616
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,840
so that they can determine
where the wounds are.
617
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,440
This is where the rubber meets the road,
ladies and gentlemen.
618
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,600
They say it's an accident
that was caused by a couple of falls
619
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,320
in that stairway,
620
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,440
and we say it's not.
621
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,160
We say it's murder.
622
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,760
You heard Mr. Rudolf talk with you about
the fact that we didn't have a weapon.
623
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,720
That's true.
624
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,680
We don't have the actual implement
that Mike Peterson used
625
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
to cause this injury.
626
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,160
Wounding, lacerations...
627
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,440
to the back of Kathleen's head.
628
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520
But we have an identical replica.
629
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Where did we get it?
630
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Kathleen's sister, Candice,
631
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,760
gave several family members
a blow poke just like this one.
632
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,240
Kathleen had had this in her home
for years and years,
633
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,200
but mysteriously, on December the 9th,
634
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,760
It's gone.
635
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,240
It's hollow. It's light.
636
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,400
It's easily used.
637
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,680
And we will contend to you,
this, or something like this,
638
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,920
is the article that was used
to inflict these wounds.
639
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,480
The blow poker that had been given
to Kathleen 15 years before, apparently,
640
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
and it was now "mysteriously missing."
641
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,720
We'll hear about
whether it's "mysterious" or not.
642
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,800
They didn't find any murder weapon.
Nothing was found.
643
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Where did it go?
644
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Where did this blow poker go?
645
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360
They searched his cars.
There wasn't any blood in the cars.
646
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,560
They went all around the house.
There wasn't any blood upstairs.
647
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,240
He didn't change his clothes.
648
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,200
He didn't...
Where did he get rid of it?
649
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,280
And when?
650
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,120
That's left "mysterious."
651
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080
But we don't convict people
based on "mysterious" here.
652
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,680
I mean, can you imagine...
653
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
somebody beating somebody over the head,
654
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,080
whacking them as hard as they can,
655
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,920
'cause you don't wack somebody like this,
when you're trying to kill them.
656
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Imagine that there's no skull fracture.
657
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,320
There's no brain contusions.
658
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,840
There's no swelling of the brain.
659
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,840
There's none of the internal hemorrhages,
subdurals, things like that
660
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,440
that you would see
from that kind of injury.
661
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,080
No. None of them.
662
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
We intend to show you during this trial,
663
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,880
to the best of our ability,
664
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,000
what happened in that stairway
on December 9th was a tragic accident.
665
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,800
An accident that left Michael Peterson,
666
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,840
Not wealthy man, but a very poor man,
667
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,800
in the thing that was
most important to him.
668
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,120
It left him without his soulmate.
669
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Kathleen and Michael connected
in a way that...
670
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,240
a few people,
who are really, really lucky in life...
671
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,280
have a chance to connect,
672
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,240
and they built a family.
673
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,520
The two of them...
674
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,040
built a family out of the strands
of their prior families.
675
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,080
Todd on the left,
676
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Kathleen and Michael,
677
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,280
Margaret peeking out from the back there,
678
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,760
Caitlin in the front,
679
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,240
Clayton, and Martha.
680
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,400
What kept them together,
what caused them to build that,
681
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,200
was a love that absolutely everyone
who saw them or knew them...
682
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,360
understood, and recognized, and envied.
683
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,600
Listen to how Caitlin Atwater,
684
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,760
who unfortunately now sits
on opposite sides,
685
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,160
and that's one of the real tragedies
of this case.
686
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Listen to how she described what
Michael Peterson meant to her mother.
687
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,400
This is from 1999.
688
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,600
"Michael Peterson stopped
my mother's tears.
689
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,440
I used to sit at the top of the stairs,
leaning through the banister,
690
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,240
and listen to my mother sob every night
691
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,280
for a year after my father left.
692
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,040
My father had torn her apart,
693
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,920
crushing her shell
and the illusion in which she lived,
694
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,320
destroying her dignity and pride.
695
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,160
But Mike was able to restore
her strength and confidence,
696
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,240
and to show her
that she could find true love.
697
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,800
From the beginning,
698
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,680
I was in debt to Mike,
in my heart and mind,
699
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
for bringing back my mother's happiness."
700
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
You know, if the prosecution is correct,
701
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,720
how do we go from soulmate and lover...
702
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,960
to cold blooded murderer?
703
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,880
How does that happen?
704
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Well, the answer is very simple.
You don't.
705
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
The truth is that Kathleen Peterson,
706
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,720
after drinking some wine
and some champagne,
707
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,560
and taking some Valium,
708
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,880
tried to walk up a narrow,
poorly-lit stairway in flip-flops,
709
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,760
and she fell, and she bled to death.
710
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,520
What Michael Peterson brought
to Kathleen Peterson
711
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,560
was true happiness over 13 years.
712
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,120
That's...
713
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,520
the picture, that's not posed.
714
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,400
That's Kathleen sitting on Michael's lap,
715
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,920
and what you see there is the happiness
716
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,480
that she felt with him,
717
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,320
and that he felt with her.
718
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Everyone who really knew
that relationship, everyone...
719
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,280
who knew them
720
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,280
knew that they loved each other.
721
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,240
Everyone...
722
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,120
who knew them knows...
723
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,800
that Michael Peterson
had nothing to do with the death...
724
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,080
of Kathleen Peterson.
725
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,840
And at the end of all the evidence,
726
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,240
I'm gonna ask the 12 of you
to come back and return a verdict
727
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,360
that will, in fact,
speak the truth in this case:
728
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,760
A verdict of "not guilty."
729
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,280
Thank you.
730
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Members of the jury, we're going
to take our lunch break at this point.
731
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,400
Mr. Deputy, 1:30.
732
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,160
All stand.
733
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.
734
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
The Superior Court, County of Durham
in recess until 1:30 this afternoon.
735
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,600
God save the State
and this honorable Court.
59155
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