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Happy. That's the word.
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Happy that you won the election?
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Yes. And very grateful
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to all those who shared my vision.
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It's really... a shared victory.
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A victory that becomes less improbable
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when you see Alicia Florrick in action.
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What do I love the most
about coming to my law firm?
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Well, that's easy. The camaraderie.
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If Alicia Florrick's a legal powerhouse,
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it's because she commands
the respect of her colleagues.
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But it wasn't always so.
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St. Alicia came by way
of an arduous journey.
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- Can we do better than that one?
- Yeah, tell me when.
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There. No, back one.
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Move in on it slowly.
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St. Alicia came by way
of an arduous journey.
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One that took her from stay-at-home
mom to scandal
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to lowly associate.
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The scandal photo...
can we keep her in color
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and make everything else black and white?
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Yeah, great. Now back to the interview.
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Mom to lowly associate,
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to founding partner of one
of Chicago's largest firms.
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How will my administration differ
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from that of my husband's?
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Well, it's not... I can't... I...
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No, cut the stumble.
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Chicago's largest firms.
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The better question?
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How will my administration be
different from my predecessor?
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We will be accountable to victims,
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worthy of the public's trust.
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I'm sorry, Petra. I need to get
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Mrs. Florrick on the phone with
the governor just for a moment.
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Sure, Eli. Anything for you.
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Going great, though.
Love what you're doing.
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Aw, thanks.
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There's no one on the phone.
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Just turn around and pretend
you're having a conversation.
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It's about the hack.
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Are you sure the e-mails are safe?
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We're hearing that they
might still come out.
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Hearing from whom?
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I heard Diane and Cary talking.
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- You want some crackers?
- No.
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The hackers want an apology from the firm.
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Well, we already resolved it.
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I mean, we can't publicly condone piracy.
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You don't have to. "We
regret any implication
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that the blah-blah-blah shareware
is not legitimate." You know.
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I have to consult my partners.
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Well, the deadline's
at the end of the week,
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or the e-mails go wide, so consult fast.
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Thank you.
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Set?
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Yes, yes. Sorry about that.
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- No, no, no.
- All set.
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I was thinking of using
this stuff for the sit-down.
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It looks way better than
the first time she sat down.
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I didn't...
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I didn't shake her hand that time.
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And we will be transparent.
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Accountable to victims,
worthy of the public's trust.
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Where'd you get these?
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- An anonymous source.
- They're hacked?
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Yes. Alicia Florrick's hacked
e-mails from the past five years.
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You have to read them.
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- Thought this was a puff piece.
- It was.
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People don't like when
you tear down their heroes.
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Are you kidding?
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That's what they live for.
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I need independent corroboration.
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Talk to her firm, confirm
they've been hacked.
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Yes, we did have an attack
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on our e-mail services,
but we have since...
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Petra Moritz.
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But we have since repelled that attack.
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No, it's had absolutely no impact...
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Okay, Daddy just needs a minute,
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so I need you guys to sit quietly.
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Come on. Charlie, come on.
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Ms. Sharma, hello. Good to see you again.
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You, too, Mr. Wiley.
What are you up to today?
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Oh, just, you know, the
usual... making trouble.
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- See you later.
- Bye.
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Yes, well, he's in with a client right now.
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Sure, I'd be happy to send you
to voice mail if that's okay.
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That's no problem at all.
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Thank you very much.
That'll be 10:00 tomorrow?
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Florrick, Agos & Lockhart.
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Hey, everything all right?
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Yes, I just have to meet this
Mr. Dipple at his think tank.
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No, I mean in there.
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Oh, yes. Andrew Wiley.
You know, the investigator?
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Yeah. What's he asking?
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He's working with Internal Affairs.
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Looking into Detective
Prima and how he set up Cary.
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Brady Violation.
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Yeah, and how he entrapped Cary, too.
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Well, they're finding that harder to prove.
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- Why is he talking to us?
- They want to find out
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how we discovered that e-mail from Canada.
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The one that Prima deleted.
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They want to prosecute him for this.
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See you.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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Can I help you?
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Yeah, I need some legal advice.
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Okay.
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Hypothetically, a cop is going to prison
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for something that he didn't do.
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Someone else did it.
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But there's a lawyer who
made misrepresentations
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based on... on, um...
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- I...
- Just...
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Don't use names, and I'm fine.
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Look... Someone is guilty
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of faking evidence,
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but a lawyer who did
not fake that evidence,
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and, in fact, thought it to be true,
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presented it in court.
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Now, is that lawyer in trouble?
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What, for using the faked evidence?
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Yeah. Even though she
didn't know that it was fake?
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Yes.
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Ignorance is irrelevant.
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The lawyer could be disbarred
or even go to prison.
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Okay, and...
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what if that person who
faked the evidence swore
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to the lawyer's innocence?
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Doesn't matter. It's strict liability.
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Okay.
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Anything else?
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No. That's enough. Thank you.
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Sure.
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Diane,
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you brave soul, welcome
to the Plenary Institute.
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- How am I brave?
- Liberal lawyer
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in this lion's den of conservatism?
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A lion's den is perfectly safe
when you have God on your side.
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Ah, there she is, quoting the Bible. Diane,
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may I introduce Max Gauls,
Cole-Harberts-Greyson?
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- Nice to meet you.
- Justin Partridge of Simkins-Wilde.
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- It's so good to meet you.
- Diane,
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- have a seat right over here.
- Okay.
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So, what am I doing?
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Aside from picking up your retainer check?
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I need a liberal viewpoint.
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On?
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Gay marriage.
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You're the devil's advocate.
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- In what way?
- We're trying to decide
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whether to fund a case on gay marriage
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and religious accommodation.
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- And what is the case?
- In May of 2014,
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Jane Armisen, a baker in California,
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was asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
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She refused, citing religious objections
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to supporting gay marriage,
and was sued for discrimination.
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- She lost.
- And you're wondering whether
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to take up this baker's appeal?
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- Yup.
- No.
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- Obviously.
- Well, that's not surprising.
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Well, it's not because I'm a liberal.
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It's because... you won't win.
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I mean, this was a plain wedding cake?
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There was nothing about the cake itself
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that was offensive to the baker?
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That's correct. It's the
fact it would have been used
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in a ceremony she believes
dishonored her religious creed.
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But this baker
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advertises to the public that
she makes these wedding cakes,
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and she will sell
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these wedding cakes to anyone,
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just not gay people.
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I'm sorry,
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- but that's not a strong case.
- Well, the Constitution
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guarantees her the free
exercise of religion.
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And California's Civil Rights
Act forbids discrimination
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against LGBT people.
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So, we have two competing freedoms.
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Businesses are allowed to
refuse service to anyone.
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With certain exceptions to that right.
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It cannot be based on race,
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color, religion or sexual orientation.
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- In some states, sexual orientation.
- In many states.
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Well, but there are
exceptions to the exceptions.
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What did Thomas Jefferson say?
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"Among the most inestimable
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"of our blessings is that of liberty
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"to worship our Creator
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in a way we think would
be agreeable to Him."
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It's no different from
conscientious objectors to war.
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I'm sorry to be blunt.
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I know you come to your opinions honestly.
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Well, it's not just my opinion.
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The Religious Freedom
Restoration Act allows
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- exemptions in anti-discrimination laws.
- Not in California.
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- California does not have one.
- Well, let's say
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we're not in California.
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Let's say we're in Colorado.
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Okay, well, we're not in Colorado, but RFRA
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would not be your friend there, either.
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So, let's say it's in New Mexico.
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It doesn't matter.
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The baker's refusing
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to sell a wedding cake
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to a gay couple for who they are.
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That is the heart of discrimination.
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What if our baker won't sell
a wedding cake to a gay couple,
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but he will sell them bear claws?
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- Cupcakes?
- That's right.
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She isn't, in fact, refusing
to serve homosexuals.
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She just won't do the one thing
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her religion says is a sin.
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Okay.
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That's a good point.
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Great. Let's take a little break.
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So, um, where is Diane Lockhart?
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I'm sorry?
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"That's a good point"?
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- It was a good point.
- No, it wasn't.
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- You know it wasn't.
- Well, you wanted me to help.
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No, I want you to fight.
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I want you to convince
me this is a loser case.
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If you're worried about
offending me, don't.
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I have a gay nephew, okay?
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Love my gay nephew, want him to be happy.
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I just don't happen to believe
in gay marriage. You do.
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- Convince me I'm wrong.
- Go for the jugular?
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Right there, ma'am. Right there.
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That's insane. Selling someone
something they don't want is
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the same thing as refusing
them service altogether.
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- No, it isn't. You can't even...
- A vegetarian couple walks into a market,
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and you refuse to sell them vegetables.
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In fact, you'll sell them
anything but vegetables.
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You are effectively denying them service.
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A gay couple wants to buy a wedding cake,
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and you refuse to sell them a wedding cake.
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The camaraderie, the relationships
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I've built here... it's what
makes coming to work a joy.
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Relationships that have been built
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with some difficulty... apparently.
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Now cut to the e-mail.
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Float it in, Star Wars style.
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Alicia Florrick to a coworker:
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"It's all about money to them.
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The partners don't give a damn about us."
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Float in the second e-mail.
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"The partners don't
give a damn about us."
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Two of her coworkers write:
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"Alicia is a perfect example
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of someone sleeping her way to the top."
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Now change the music.
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"It's all about money to them.
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The partners don't give a damn about us."
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"Alicia is a perfect example
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of someone sleeping her way to the top."
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Mrs. Florrick, I want to thank you
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for agreeing to sit down
for a second interview.
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- Absolutely.
- We just need clarification
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on a few things.
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Mrs. Florrick, you returned
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to the practice of law after 12 years...
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- Thirteen.
- 13 years. Sorry.
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And you walk
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into this law firm, full of old bulls
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- and young tigers. Were you nervous?
- Very.
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And the only person you
knew at all was Will Gardner.
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- Yes.
- The two of you
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wound up becoming quite close, didn't you?
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Will was a terrific lawyer.
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He was smart, creative.
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Zealous in the best sense of the word.
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Maybe more importantly,
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a... a trusted friend?
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Yes.
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And after May 2010, perhaps even more so?
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Apologies. I just need to
borrow Alicia for a moment.
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I forgot to get an answer
on something time-sensitive.
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She has the e-mails.
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- Or the photos.
- No, she said May 2010.
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- That's the e-mails.
- What e-mails? What are we talking about?
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- How bad?
- Give her your phone.
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I'm calling this off.
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You're saying that a Hindu or
a Muslim can enter a bake shop...
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- No, that isn't comparable.
- Yes, it is.
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They're both protected classes.
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A Hindu can enter a bake shop
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and be denied a wedding cake.
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No, no, because that is
denial of a class of people.
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- Exactly. Like gays.
- No, that is the
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- denial of an activity. Of the marriage.
- Which is just
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- a pretext for discrimination.
- What if it weren't a blank wedding cake?
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- Yes, but that's not what happened.
- I know that.
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I'm trying to determine
where religious freedom ends
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and antidiscrimination laws begin.
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What if Jane were asked
to attach a figurine
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of two men holding hands?
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- Could she deny that service?
- If she's offering
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the service of supplying figurines,
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then, no, she cannot deny that service.
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Well, what if she's
asked to write on the cake
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"Congratulations, Roger and Carl"?
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Can she deny that because it's speech
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- she doesn't approve of?
- Well, now we come around
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- to the free speech argument.
- Well,
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you knew we were gonna end up there.
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Okay, well, here's the thing,
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it's not her speech.
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It's the speech of the
person purchasing the service.
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I mean, imagine if she
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is a printer and a gay person
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comes in needing flyers.
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She cannot reject his business,
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even though the flyer may be advertising
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an LGBT meeting,
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because to reject him is to discriminate
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- based on sexual preference.
- Just as one
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- can't discriminate based on religion?
- Exactly.
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So if a Christian walks into
the cake shop and orders a cake
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that says "God sends gays to hell,"
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does the baker have to write
that on the wedding cake
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even if she doesn't approve of it?
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- No.
- Because you find it offensive?
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No. Because the baker is
not objecting to a religion
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but a point of view.
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- A hateful one at that.
- But the purchaser
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finds it essential to
his or her faith. I mean,
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isn't the Christian a protected class,
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with the same protection as gays?
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I'm sorry, there's been a slight hiccup
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in the investigation.
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What hiccup?
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Detective Prima deleted the e-mail
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from the Canadian authorities at 3:11 p.m.
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on August 28. That's the great thing
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about technology. You're never wondering,
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you know, when this or that
happened. It's all right there
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- in black and white.
- So, good. So, what's the problem?
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Timmy, Dora, less noise. Okay, here.
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Detective Prima was on the stand
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testifying in a burglary case
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from 2:38 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. on August 28,
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so, I mean, unless there's a
mistake in the public record
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or in the e-mail metadata,
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- there is no possible way...
- Ow!
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Hey, Dora, let go of Timmy's hair.
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There is no possible way
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- that Prima could have deleted the e-mail.
- Okay,
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- so what's your theory?
- Well,
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unfortunately, my theory
involves ASA Geneva Pine,
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who was having an affair
with Prima at the time.
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- You're kidding.
- No. I mean, you know,
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she didn't tell anybody.
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You know. I mean, for...
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Sorry.
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Can you... For obvious
reasons. Kids, Cheerios.
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You think she deleted the e-mail for Prima?
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Well, she was the only
one in the department
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with access to his account.
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I was wondering if you
guys had any other thoughts.
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Why would we have thoughts?
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I have no idea.
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Do you?
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No.
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Don't make me count to five.
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Will was a terrific lawyer.
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He was smart, creative.
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Zealous in the best sense of the word.
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June 2010.
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"Will, sometimes I worry this
is wrong, you being my boss."
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Will to Alicia:
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"I know, but I can't
get you out of my head.
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The touch of you, the taste."
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That's a long time to be on one image.
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Right. Cut to the scandal.
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Make her black and white,
everything else in color.
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Alicia to Will:
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"You were away at depos
this week. All I could
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think about was your hands on me."
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"Sometimes this feels too dangerous."
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Editing.
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You'd better get out there.
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She is planning to use
illegally obtained e-mails.
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- Not just use...
- Broadcast.
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Which is so far beyond the
pale, I can't believe Hey.
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- We're having this conversation.
- I didn't hack
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her e-mails... I just received
copies of them.
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- A distinction without a difference.
- Well, no. The Supreme Court
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- has spoken to this.
- Bartnicki v. Vopper. As long as we
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as we didn't steal the material,
we have a First Amendment right
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- to publish it.
- If it's a matter of public concern.
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- Mrs. Florrick is a public official now.
- But that does not
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- strip her of her right to privacy.
- Exactly. You use
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these private e-mails, sir, you and Petra,
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- you are, you know, blah-blah.
- Co-conspirators.
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I'm sorry. You're wrong on the law.
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You can go after the
hackers here but not us.
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There is a tort for the
disclosure of private facts.
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- Well, then sue us after it airs.
- Oh,
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come on, Charles. You made a speech
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to the International Press Commission
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about the ethics of journalism.
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And now you're looking for cover
to air this kind of, you know...
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Scurrilous, sexually charged
innuendo, which, until today,
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was the stuff of tabloids and blogs.
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Which, it should be noted,
is where you came from.
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Your righteous indignation is sweet, Eli,
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but you started this.
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- You created the myth of St. Alicia.
- That is
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- absolutely not true.
- You love to build people
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- up and then tear them down.
- That is BS.
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The truth, which comes
out in these e-mails...
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it puts the lie to all that. And
the public has a right to know.
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You've really lost all perspective in this.
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- Petra. No, you really...
- It's gross.
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You're gross.
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Thank you.
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- I'm gonna hold this piece until...
- Charles.
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Until I can consider all sides.
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Ethically and otherwise.
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What are you gonna do?
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Who would be interested in this?
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TMZ or Gawker?
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I don't know. Both.
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What about a... Say, a wedding planner?
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Hmm.
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It's First Amendment,
it's personal services,
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it's religious freedom all
rolled into one. Isn't it?
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Yes, you would arguably have a better case
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with a wedding planner
because of the burden on her...
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her time commitment,
her level of creativity,
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the list of her personal contacts.
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Yes, that would be a
harder case for me to win.
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Great.
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Well, that was exhausting.
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But effective.
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I have decided not to
fund the baker's appeal.
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Good. I think that's smart.
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Not just ideologically but practically.
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I think you'd lose.
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- Do you know what metadata is?
- I do.
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Did you know it's
possible to fake metadata?
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I didn't.
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Yeah, it's very difficult. You have
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to first hack into the computer,
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- then change the code...
- I'm really not sure
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what it is that you
need from me, Mr. Wiley.
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You used to work in the S.A.'s Office.
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I'm just wondering if
you have any information
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that might be helpful to me or if you know
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of anyone here who might
have faked the metadata.
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No.
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Sorry.
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Eli couldn't make it. Some
blah-blah with the governor.
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Good. I don't have the
energy to talk to Eli.
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What am I doing here?
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I wanted to give you a heads-up.
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You're kidding me.
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I got no choice. Gawker's
starting to sniff around.
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It's just a matter of time before
they dump everything online.
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- Don't do this.
- I can't afford to get scooped.
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But you can afford to be a tool.
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That's good to know
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the next time I need a, you know... a tool.
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Hi. Alicia.
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Bit of a problem.
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From NPR News in Washington,
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I'm Lakshmi Singh. Another salvo
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in the ongoing cultural dispute
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over same-sex marriage in America,
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this time involving a gay couple in Idaho
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who were turned down by a wedding planner.
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Same-sex marriage is legal in Idaho,
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and the couple sued and won.
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But now prominent conservative
activist Reese Dipple
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has agreed to fund the
wedding planner's appeal.
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Do you have a dollar?
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Yeah.
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Why?
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'Cause I need it.
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Here you go.
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Okay. So I'm your lawyer now, Kalinda,
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and this dollar represents
attorney-client privilege.
495
00:20:20,598 --> 00:20:22,045
Sure.
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You faked metadata, and
Diane presented it in court
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to get Cary released, yes?
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Yeah.
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But Diane didn't know it was faked.
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Yeah.
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- Anything else?
- Look,
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after I faked the data, I had
second thoughts about using it.
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But Diane took it from my
computer without my knowledge.
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I didn't realize until I got to court
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and saw her present it to the judge.
506
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Okay.
507
00:20:50,462 --> 00:20:52,604
Okay. You don't talk to anyone about this.
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Not Diane. Not Cary.
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00:20:53,954 --> 00:20:55,778
And not Wiley.
510
00:20:56,281 --> 00:20:59,649
You just talk to me. Okay?
511
00:21:02,166 --> 00:21:04,368
Do you have any ideas?
512
00:21:05,576 --> 00:21:07,216
No.
513
00:21:09,112 --> 00:21:10,911
You used me.
514
00:21:11,912 --> 00:21:13,298
- What?
- That wasn't
515
00:21:13,323 --> 00:21:14,908
a think tank exercise.
516
00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:17,970
You were trying to find a wedge
issue against gay marriage.
517
00:21:17,995 --> 00:21:20,083
Of course I was. And I found it.
518
00:21:20,108 --> 00:21:21,407
- And you helped me.
- Great.
519
00:21:21,432 --> 00:21:23,166
So I was your liberal guinea pig.
520
00:21:23,191 --> 00:21:24,623
Why is that a bad thing?
521
00:21:24,962 --> 00:21:26,429
If you think that gay marriage
522
00:21:26,431 --> 00:21:28,531
can withstand all legal assaults,
523
00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:31,077
you should rejoice in
any chanceto defend it.
524
00:21:31,102 --> 00:21:33,571
So you're funding this
wedding planner's appeal now?
525
00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,452
Yeah, I am. It's a stronger case.
526
00:21:36,441 --> 00:21:38,207
And you can help me.
527
00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:40,978
- I won't defend her.
- You don't have to.
528
00:21:41,003 --> 00:21:43,303
I wouldn't ask you to
be someone you're not.
529
00:21:43,681 --> 00:21:45,674
I want you to represent the plaintiff.
530
00:21:45,984 --> 00:21:47,770
- Excuse me?
- We're having
531
00:21:47,795 --> 00:21:51,376
a mock trial here this afternoon
with the real wedding planner.
532
00:21:51,401 --> 00:21:53,668
I want you to sue her. Destroy her.
533
00:21:53,693 --> 00:21:55,222
See what damage you can do.
534
00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:57,414
- So you can improve your case?
- Yeah.
535
00:21:57,785 --> 00:22:00,563
But also so you can destroy it.
536
00:22:03,133 --> 00:22:04,663
Who's my client?
537
00:22:04,688 --> 00:22:06,154
Couldn't find the real plaintiff.
538
00:22:06,179 --> 00:22:08,279
You'll have to work with a stand-in.
539
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:11,295
Who's the judge?
540
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,179
Geoffrey Solomon. So nice to meet you.
541
00:22:14,204 --> 00:22:15,973
Such an honor, sir. Diane Lockhart.
542
00:22:15,998 --> 00:22:17,864
- I know.
- Oh.
543
00:22:17,889 --> 00:22:19,877
I think I read your
Harvard book three times.
544
00:22:19,902 --> 00:22:23,177
Really? That's more than
all my ex-wives put together.
545
00:22:23,202 --> 00:22:25,703
R.D.
546
00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:29,283
You got to admit, I'm stacking
the deck against myself here.
547
00:22:29,747 --> 00:22:32,548
Liberal judge, tough plaintiff's attorney.
548
00:22:32,573 --> 00:22:35,203
You lose, all your fault.
549
00:22:35,228 --> 00:22:36,456
Thanks.
550
00:22:37,283 --> 00:22:39,550
Okay, strategy session.
551
00:22:39,630 --> 00:22:42,197
- Two-pronged attack.
- Oh, I love the two prongs.
552
00:22:42,222 --> 00:22:43,388
Even as a kid, we had two-pronged attacks.
553
00:22:43,413 --> 00:22:45,303
Marissa. Shh.
554
00:22:45,661 --> 00:22:47,394
We have to delay Petra,
555
00:22:47,419 --> 00:22:49,798
- even it's only by 24 hours.
- How do we do that?
556
00:22:49,823 --> 00:22:52,530
Hello, Eli. What do you need?
557
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:54,182
I just got off the phone with the Governor.
558
00:22:54,184 --> 00:22:55,888
He thinks he can help
you fill out your story.
559
00:22:55,913 --> 00:22:57,346
Really? In what way?
560
00:22:57,371 --> 00:22:59,838
By offering you an on-screen interview.
561
00:23:02,692 --> 00:23:04,520
You know, this is such BS.
562
00:23:04,545 --> 00:23:06,191
- What?
- You're just trying to delay me.
563
00:23:06,216 --> 00:23:08,016
Hey, if you don't want
the interview, that's fine.
564
00:23:08,041 --> 00:23:09,473
When can he do it?
565
00:23:09,498 --> 00:23:11,231
There's a chance later tonight.
566
00:23:11,256 --> 00:23:12,489
What kind of chance?
567
00:23:12,514 --> 00:23:14,022
Mm, 60/40.
568
00:23:15,204 --> 00:23:17,277
No restrictions on questions?
569
00:23:17,302 --> 00:23:18,568
None.
570
00:23:18,593 --> 00:23:19,893
Okay.
571
00:23:19,918 --> 00:23:21,757
- Get back to me with the time.
- Sure will.
572
00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:24,509
So you don't get back to her?
573
00:23:24,534 --> 00:23:26,383
Oh, you do. 11:30 tonight.
574
00:23:26,408 --> 00:23:28,408
Now prong two.
575
00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:30,900
We pre-spin the e-mails.
576
00:23:31,488 --> 00:23:32,903
What does that mean?
577
00:23:32,928 --> 00:23:34,294
We go to a friendly reporter.
578
00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,056
- And reporters who hate Petra.
- We give them
579
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,497
the chance to scoop her. If you don't want
580
00:23:37,522 --> 00:23:39,206
a story to be told, it's
better to tell it yourself.
581
00:23:39,231 --> 00:23:41,916
- Well, how do we tell it ourselves?
- What's the worst revelation
582
00:23:41,941 --> 00:23:43,096
and the worst e-mail?
583
00:23:43,121 --> 00:23:45,199
"Alicia, I can't get you out of my head.
584
00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:47,428
- The touch of you, the taste... "
- Okay. Thanks.
585
00:23:47,453 --> 00:23:48,886
It's just flirtation. There was
586
00:23:48,911 --> 00:23:50,579
no affair, these are flirtatious e-mails.
587
00:23:50,604 --> 00:23:52,871
- Eli.
- What?
588
00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,877
I think you and I should talk a little.
589
00:23:54,902 --> 00:23:56,985
Alicia, I know this is
embarrassing for you,
590
00:23:57,010 --> 00:23:58,776
but we don't need to explain your life.
591
00:23:58,801 --> 00:24:00,854
All we need to explain are these e-mails,
592
00:24:00,879 --> 00:24:04,814
and these e-mails merely suggest
an obsession... a flirtation.
593
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,411
- That's gonna be embarrassing enough.
- Are there any e-mails
594
00:24:07,457 --> 00:24:09,624
- that suggest an actual affair?
- "Will, you were away
595
00:24:09,626 --> 00:24:10,692
"at depos this week.
596
00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,762
"All I could think about
was your hands on me.
597
00:24:12,787 --> 00:24:14,764
Sometimes this feels too dangerous."
598
00:24:16,665 --> 00:24:18,559
Okay, still pretty embarrassing,
599
00:24:18,584 --> 00:24:20,991
but merely suggestive of an
act... you didn't act on it.
600
00:24:21,016 --> 00:24:22,859
- This is just sexting.
- And this was all happening
601
00:24:22,884 --> 00:24:24,217
while your husband was screwing around.
602
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040
Yeah, I don't think we need
to go too deep into that.
603
00:24:26,042 --> 00:24:28,063
- Why not?
- She's right.
604
00:24:28,088 --> 00:24:29,584
Alicia was merely tempted
605
00:24:29,609 --> 00:24:31,549
because her husband moved out on her,
606
00:24:31,574 --> 00:24:33,266
- and blah-blah.
- Okay, I don't think
607
00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:34,669
we need to tear down Peter
608
00:24:34,694 --> 00:24:36,806
- to build up Alicia.
- It was an affair.
609
00:24:37,787 --> 00:24:40,329
I can't just say this stuff about Will,
610
00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:42,121
because it wasn't true.
611
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,155
But no one would appreciate it more
612
00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:47,214
if you did than Will.
613
00:24:47,239 --> 00:24:49,139
He always knew what had to be said.
614
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,066
I can't. I'm sorry.
615
00:24:52,814 --> 00:24:54,642
Now what?
616
00:24:55,586 --> 00:24:57,407
Get Peter to talk to her.
617
00:25:00,693 --> 00:25:02,861
I'm not prejudiced against gay people.
618
00:25:02,886 --> 00:25:04,919
I'm not prejudiced against anyone.
619
00:25:04,944 --> 00:25:09,001
But I believe the Bible
is the word of God. Period.
620
00:25:09,026 --> 00:25:10,579
And it's nof mine to...
621
00:25:10,604 --> 00:25:12,946
ignore or change as I wish.
622
00:25:13,361 --> 00:25:16,395
Well, honestly, it would
be easier to do that.
623
00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:17,753
I don't want to be
624
00:25:17,778 --> 00:25:19,425
in the position of turning down business.
625
00:25:19,450 --> 00:25:21,339
I'm a wedding planner.
I need your business,
626
00:25:21,364 --> 00:25:22,863
sir... I'm...
627
00:25:23,265 --> 00:25:24,696
I'm supposed to...
628
00:25:24,721 --> 00:25:27,222
treat him like the actual
guy who's suing me, right?
629
00:25:27,247 --> 00:25:28,579
That's right, Ms. Dahl.
630
00:25:28,604 --> 00:25:30,069
Treat this just like court.
631
00:25:30,094 --> 00:25:31,793
Treat me just like a judge.
632
00:25:32,107 --> 00:25:33,867
Look, I certainly
633
00:25:33,892 --> 00:25:36,823
don't want to be sued for
sticking to my beliefs,
634
00:25:36,848 --> 00:25:39,161
- but they are what they are.
- Thank you, Ms. Dahl.
635
00:25:39,186 --> 00:25:41,328
- Your witness.
- So, Ms. Dahl,
636
00:25:41,353 --> 00:25:43,620
you've been a wedding planner for 12 years,
637
00:25:43,645 --> 00:25:44,855
- is that correct?
- Yes.
638
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,813
And in all that time, you
have never been approached
639
00:25:46,838 --> 00:25:49,675
- about doing a gay wedding before?
- Never. Of course,
640
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,435
there's a homosexual
community in Pocatello,
641
00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:56,154
and my very favorite florist is gay.
642
00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:57,991
But you are aware that gay marriage
643
00:25:58,016 --> 00:26:01,347
has been legal in Idaho
since October of 2014.
644
00:26:01,372 --> 00:26:02,773
I'm aware it's legal, yes.
645
00:26:02,798 --> 00:26:05,105
Abortion is legal, too.
646
00:26:05,374 --> 00:26:07,497
It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
647
00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:08,802
But you have to follow the law.
648
00:26:08,827 --> 00:26:10,991
I'm not stopping anyone
from getting married.
649
00:26:11,016 --> 00:26:13,472
I just don't want to be the
one to plan their wedding.
650
00:26:13,497 --> 00:26:14,829
That's all.
651
00:26:15,168 --> 00:26:17,091
I'm helping two people
652
00:26:17,116 --> 00:26:19,750
seal their commitment to
one another before the world
653
00:26:19,775 --> 00:26:21,274
and before God.
654
00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:24,315
I can't do that if I don't believe in it.
655
00:26:24,905 --> 00:26:26,406
Ms. Dahl...
656
00:26:26,431 --> 00:26:28,967
how many times did, um, Jesus
657
00:26:29,231 --> 00:26:31,703
- condemn homosexuality?
- Objection. Relevance.
658
00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:36,669
She's claiming religion is the
basis of her refusal, Counselor.
659
00:26:36,671 --> 00:26:39,572
I fail to see how the
specifics of that religion
660
00:26:39,574 --> 00:26:41,076
could not be relevant.
661
00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,433
Um, Jesus
662
00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:43,881
never condemned
663
00:26:43,906 --> 00:26:45,558
- homosexuality.
- And how many times
664
00:26:45,583 --> 00:26:47,660
- did Jesus condemn divorce?
- Three times.
665
00:26:47,685 --> 00:26:51,086
Four times... if you count
Matthew and Mark's account
666
00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:52,761
- of the same incident.
- Thank you.
667
00:26:52,786 --> 00:26:55,668
So you've never planned a wedding...
668
00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,488
for a couple that had
previously been married?
669
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,139
Um... I haven't asked.
670
00:27:02,164 --> 00:27:04,503
- I guess I have.
- Well, in fact,
671
00:27:04,528 --> 00:27:05,961
you have planned...
672
00:27:05,986 --> 00:27:09,023
two weddings in the last year alone
673
00:27:09,048 --> 00:27:10,814
where one or both
674
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:12,492
of the couple had previously been married.
675
00:27:12,517 --> 00:27:14,422
- That sounds right.
- So your religious
676
00:27:14,422 --> 00:27:16,853
objection is selective, at best.
677
00:27:16,878 --> 00:27:18,511
- Wouldn't you say?
- Objection. Argumentative.
678
00:27:18,513 --> 00:27:21,147
- Sustained.
- No more questions.
679
00:27:23,167 --> 00:27:24,868
Let's talk.
680
00:27:25,386 --> 00:27:27,024
You have no choice.
681
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:28,324
I'm not gonna lie,
682
00:27:28,349 --> 00:27:29,586
especially not for a reporter.
683
00:27:29,611 --> 00:27:31,714
You have to control the narrative.
684
00:27:32,994 --> 00:27:35,961
To keep me from looking
like the slutty wife.
685
00:27:35,986 --> 00:27:37,653
Yeah.
686
00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:40,168
- It'll kill you.
- And you.
687
00:27:40,193 --> 00:27:41,525
You'll be the cuckold.
688
00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:43,477
If you don't control the narrative.
689
00:27:44,672 --> 00:27:48,062
It's kind of odd that we're
discussing this so calmly.
690
00:27:48,087 --> 00:27:50,125
I'm hoping it's maturity.
691
00:27:50,776 --> 00:27:52,855
Really? Is that what it looks like?
692
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,507
Talking calmly.
693
00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:56,306
Not yelling.
694
00:27:56,517 --> 00:27:58,718
Making sense. Yeah.
695
00:28:01,269 --> 00:28:03,704
Have we come through the other side?
696
00:28:03,706 --> 00:28:05,172
What other side?
697
00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:06,506
Of anger.
698
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:08,876
Jealousy. Disgust.
699
00:28:08,878 --> 00:28:10,677
Did I disgust you?
700
00:28:10,679 --> 00:28:11,990
For a while.
701
00:28:13,515 --> 00:28:16,350
Actually, it's kind of nice
sitting here, drinking together.
702
00:28:16,352 --> 00:28:18,919
It's like watching two other people drink.
703
00:28:18,921 --> 00:28:21,191
And what do those two other people do?
704
00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:23,283
They used to be married.
705
00:28:23,308 --> 00:28:25,141
They like each other.
706
00:28:25,294 --> 00:28:28,628
They forgot that they're
supposed to hate each other.
707
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:30,697
Mm.
708
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:38,138
Oh, it's not gonna happen.
709
00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:39,706
- What?
- Sex.
710
00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:41,741
- I didn't say a word.
- You don't have to.
711
00:28:41,743 --> 00:28:43,363
I can see the look on your face.
712
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:44,988
I've known you a long time.
713
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,347
A long... long time.
714
00:28:47,349 --> 00:28:49,749
Oh, my God!
715
00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:52,275
You're like an 18-year-old.
Everything's about
716
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:54,020
- where you can stick it.
- No.
717
00:28:54,022 --> 00:28:55,755
Listen...
718
00:28:55,757 --> 00:28:58,458
I know you think I've been a dog, Alicia,
719
00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:01,114
and I know you think I've
been a bad husband, but...
720
00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:05,098
I've never been as bad
as you've wanted me to be.
721
00:29:07,816 --> 00:29:09,636
That's probably true.
722
00:29:09,885 --> 00:29:11,608
And I loved you.
723
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,140
I still love you.
724
00:29:16,777 --> 00:29:19,112
I don't know, Peter.
725
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:23,049
"Love" is a word that is so exhausted.
726
00:29:23,051 --> 00:29:25,551
I wish it meant something to me.
727
00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:31,324
Can I just leave it tonight
728
00:29:31,326 --> 00:29:34,393
that I like sitting,
drinking with you here?
729
00:29:36,898 --> 00:29:37,930
Sure.
730
00:29:43,434 --> 00:29:46,103
Mr. Andersen, may I call you Nils?
731
00:29:46,816 --> 00:29:50,176
You're my client's
husband, is that correct?
732
00:29:50,178 --> 00:29:52,878
For the purposes of these
proceedings, yes, I am.
733
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,014
We understand you're playing a part here,
734
00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:57,675
- Mr...
- My real name's Todd.
735
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,167
Fine. Just answer Ms. Lockhart's questions
736
00:30:00,221 --> 00:30:02,054
as though you were actually Nils Andersen.
737
00:30:02,056 --> 00:30:03,456
Go ahead.
738
00:30:03,458 --> 00:30:05,192
So you're Mr. Taylor's husband?
739
00:30:05,217 --> 00:30:07,309
I am. We were married in January.
740
00:30:07,428 --> 00:30:09,829
Mm. I'd like you to talk about the day
741
00:30:09,831 --> 00:30:11,697
you were turned away by Ms. Dahl...
742
00:30:11,699 --> 00:30:13,725
- for being gay.
- Objection.
743
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:16,817
Misstates facts. Ms. Dahl didn't
turn them away for being gay.
744
00:30:16,842 --> 00:30:19,241
She simply did not want to
participate in their wedding.
745
00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:20,719
Sustained. But barely.
746
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:23,275
Mr. Andersen, please tell us
747
00:30:23,277 --> 00:30:25,515
how it felt to be turned away.
748
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:27,715
It felt like crap.
749
00:30:27,949 --> 00:30:29,982
- Frankly.
- And was this the first time
750
00:30:29,984 --> 00:30:31,984
you'd been turned away from a business
751
00:30:31,986 --> 00:30:34,030
because of someone's religious objections?
752
00:30:34,055 --> 00:30:36,260
No. Happens a lot.
753
00:30:36,285 --> 00:30:38,328
And so then why sue Ms. Dahl
754
00:30:38,459 --> 00:30:40,092
and not anyone else?
755
00:30:40,094 --> 00:30:43,215
I guess it was the straw
that broke the camel's back.
756
00:30:43,931 --> 00:30:46,398
Sometimes that's the
way it feels, you know?
757
00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:48,834
You feel like a second-class citizen,
758
00:30:48,836 --> 00:30:50,602
and especially in a town like Pocatello,
759
00:30:50,604 --> 00:30:52,853
- 'cause it's so small.
- In a town that small,
760
00:30:52,878 --> 00:30:54,744
was it easy to find
another wedding planner?
761
00:30:54,808 --> 00:30:56,508
No. There are only three.
762
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:58,977
Maybe-maybe five or six,
if you count nearby towns.
763
00:30:58,979 --> 00:31:01,258
- They were all booked.
- And if Ms. Dahl
764
00:31:01,283 --> 00:31:02,923
had simply told you she was booked?
765
00:31:03,083 --> 00:31:04,549
I would have understood.
766
00:31:04,551 --> 00:31:06,518
I guess that would have been a lie,
767
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,153
but it would have hurt less.
768
00:31:08,155 --> 00:31:10,322
- It would have been better than the truth.
- Do you feel
769
00:31:10,324 --> 00:31:12,211
that you have suffered economic harm
770
00:31:12,236 --> 00:31:14,066
due to Ms. Dahl's turning you away?
771
00:31:14,094 --> 00:31:16,695
Yes. We had to go all the way to Boise
772
00:31:16,697 --> 00:31:17,963
to find a wedding planner.
773
00:31:17,965 --> 00:31:19,130
That's 200 miles.
774
00:31:19,132 --> 00:31:20,532
We had to make that drive
775
00:31:20,534 --> 00:31:21,733
- four times.
- Your Honor?
776
00:31:21,735 --> 00:31:23,516
Could I request a...
777
00:31:23,541 --> 00:31:25,494
a brief recess before we cross?
778
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,685
Well, of course.
779
00:31:33,579 --> 00:31:35,146
How dare you?
780
00:31:35,148 --> 00:31:37,816
- I'm sorry?
- You cast my nephew
781
00:31:37,818 --> 00:31:39,451
- as the lover?
- Yes, I did.
782
00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:41,086
You said go for the jugular.
783
00:31:41,088 --> 00:31:42,887
Hey, Uncle Reese.
784
00:31:43,689 --> 00:31:45,356
Hi, buddy.
785
00:31:45,997 --> 00:31:47,959
Will you follow me, please?
786
00:31:51,405 --> 00:31:52,463
Hey.
787
00:31:53,605 --> 00:31:56,301
How did you know how
to change the metadata?
788
00:31:56,705 --> 00:31:58,503
I had a friend show me.
789
00:31:58,505 --> 00:32:00,171
But you did it alone?
790
00:32:00,173 --> 00:32:02,106
Yeah, but he knew I was doing it.
791
00:32:02,108 --> 00:32:04,809
- And nobody else knew anything about it?
- Just him.
792
00:32:05,855 --> 00:32:07,545
Do I need to contain this?
793
00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:10,348
That's an understatement.
794
00:32:17,037 --> 00:32:18,537
Whoa.
795
00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:20,716
Where are you off to?
796
00:32:20,741 --> 00:32:22,867
Have you seen Howell?
I thought he was still here.
797
00:32:22,892 --> 00:32:24,207
- Who?
- Howell...
798
00:32:24,207 --> 00:32:25,502
The guy who works on the computer.
799
00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:28,027
Oh, yeah. Wiley pulled
him out for something.
800
00:32:28,052 --> 00:32:29,841
They're in the conference room together.
801
00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:42,760
Did you not believe me when
I told you I loved my nephew?
802
00:32:42,785 --> 00:32:44,919
No, I did. That's why I approached him.
803
00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:47,452
I'm not paying you to stage
a family therapy session.
804
00:32:47,477 --> 00:32:49,343
I'm not paying you to use my relative.
805
00:32:49,345 --> 00:32:51,344
I didn't use him... he
wanted to participate.
806
00:32:51,369 --> 00:32:53,857
- I'm paying you to act professionally...
- You told me to go for the jugular.
807
00:32:53,859 --> 00:32:55,592
You told me to get personal.
808
00:32:55,594 --> 00:32:57,828
This is more than personal;
this is an insult, Diane.
809
00:32:57,830 --> 00:33:00,600
I'm sorry, sir, but if you
want to decide on gay marriage,
810
00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:02,325
you have to see who you're impacting,
811
00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:04,116
and it can't be an actor.
812
00:33:06,428 --> 00:33:08,596
So finish what you started.
813
00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:12,990
Me, my, mo, may.
814
00:33:12,992 --> 00:33:15,453
May. May, there we go.
815
00:33:15,478 --> 00:33:16,911
Very friendly reporter,
816
00:33:16,913 --> 00:33:18,928
dumb as an ox.
817
00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:21,159
Just keep your answers to single syllables
818
00:33:21,184 --> 00:33:22,717
and you should be fine.
819
00:33:24,421 --> 00:33:27,030
- Mrs. Florrick, hello.
- Mr. Willoughby,
820
00:33:27,055 --> 00:33:29,289
I was thrilled when Josh
told me you said yes.
821
00:33:29,314 --> 00:33:32,282
I was, too. I voted for you, ma'am.
822
00:33:32,429 --> 00:33:35,446
- Unless I shouldn't say that.
- Oh, well, I won't tell anyone.
823
00:33:36,852 --> 00:33:38,519
Good. I like secrets
824
00:33:38,544 --> 00:33:40,244
and things of that elk.
825
00:33:40,956 --> 00:33:42,757
- Ilk?
- No, elk.
826
00:33:42,782 --> 00:33:44,215
Things of that elk.
827
00:33:45,641 --> 00:33:46,792
Well...
828
00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,516
shall we get started?
829
00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:50,808
Were Alicia and Mr. Gardner close?
830
00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:52,533
- Absolutely.
- Interesting that you're
831
00:33:52,558 --> 00:33:54,901
calling her Alicia and him Mr. Gardner.
832
00:33:54,926 --> 00:33:57,125
Are you trying to manufacture some distance
833
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,718
- between them, Eli?
- No, Kim,
834
00:33:59,743 --> 00:34:02,189
I'm trying to give you
a sense of the reality.
835
00:34:02,214 --> 00:34:05,346
Ah. So you did have a relationship
836
00:34:05,371 --> 00:34:06,783
with Mr. Gardner?
837
00:34:06,808 --> 00:34:10,410
Well, it depends on how you
define "relationship."
838
00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:14,901
- As in relating to other people.
- This is about
839
00:34:14,937 --> 00:34:17,084
- Petra Moritz? Seriously?
- No, it's not
840
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:18,969
about Petra per se. It's about
841
00:34:18,994 --> 00:34:21,628
a journalistic culture
that increasingly kicks sand
842
00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:23,814
- over ethical boundaries...
- Petra has these e-mails?
843
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:26,473
Yes. Of course, Petra wants
to go with this story tomorrow,
844
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:28,754
so if you wanted to scoop her,
845
00:34:29,385 --> 00:34:31,351
you'd have to get something out tonight.
846
00:34:31,353 --> 00:34:33,120
So...
847
00:34:33,122 --> 00:34:35,263
if there was nothing going on
848
00:34:35,288 --> 00:34:36,909
between you and your boss,
849
00:34:36,934 --> 00:34:39,055
how do you explain these e-mails?
850
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,113
I'm embarrassed to admit it,
851
00:34:41,138 --> 00:34:44,936
but it was... a flirtation.
852
00:34:45,134 --> 00:34:47,603
An innocent one, but a wrong one.
853
00:34:47,628 --> 00:34:50,508
I was having difficulties with my husband
854
00:34:50,533 --> 00:34:52,562
at that point, and
855
00:34:52,941 --> 00:34:54,444
I was carried away.
856
00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:56,508
I wish that I hadn't,
857
00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:59,016
but I'm deeply embarrassed.
858
00:34:59,748 --> 00:35:01,348
But were you having difficulties
859
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:03,617
with your husband at that point?
860
00:35:08,791 --> 00:35:11,760
Yes, that's right, I was...
861
00:35:12,048 --> 00:35:13,899
having difficulties.
862
00:35:13,996 --> 00:35:16,048
And were you embarrassed?
863
00:35:17,576 --> 00:35:19,744
And I was embarrassed.
864
00:35:19,919 --> 00:35:23,120
Um... I hate to admit it.
865
00:35:24,498 --> 00:35:27,742
Let's talk about your
relationship with Mr. Gardner.
866
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,567
- Hey.
- What's going on?
867
00:35:32,592 --> 00:35:33,858
What did Wiley ask you?
868
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:36,627
He asked about the metadata, but I lied
869
00:35:36,629 --> 00:35:38,529
- for you.
- Howell, I told you to tell the truth.
870
00:35:38,531 --> 00:35:40,464
Don't worry, he believed
me. I told him we stumbled
871
00:35:40,466 --> 00:35:42,666
on the metadata while I
was fixing tickets for you
872
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:44,219
in the Chicago PD traffic system.
873
00:35:44,244 --> 00:35:46,027
- What?
- Speeding tickets.
874
00:35:46,027 --> 00:35:49,707
It's something I actually do. I
told him I fixed two tickets for you.
875
00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:52,685
You had four, but I fixed
two to keep up appearances.
876
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:54,745
Howell, I don't have four speeding tickets.
877
00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:56,393
- I... I don't even have two.
- I will
878
00:35:56,418 --> 00:35:58,719
make it look like you
do. Don't worry so much.
879
00:35:58,744 --> 00:36:00,273
Okay, look...
880
00:36:00,298 --> 00:36:02,441
just tell me everything
that you said, okay?
881
00:36:02,441 --> 00:36:03,441
All right.
882
00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:06,414
Mr. Andersen. Aren't you
and your husband just picking
883
00:36:06,439 --> 00:36:08,007
- a fight here?
- Objection, badgering,
884
00:36:08,032 --> 00:36:09,960
- inflammatory.
- Try it again, Mr. Partridge.
885
00:36:09,985 --> 00:36:11,790
Did you have an ulterior motive
886
00:36:11,815 --> 00:36:13,348
in bringing suit against Ms. Dahl?
887
00:36:13,635 --> 00:36:15,607
Did I have an ulterior motive?
888
00:36:15,632 --> 00:36:16,787
I guess what I'm asking is,
889
00:36:16,812 --> 00:36:18,786
were you really so offended by what she did
890
00:36:18,811 --> 00:36:20,797
- or did you see this as a test case?
- Objection.
891
00:36:20,822 --> 00:36:22,585
It's a fair question, Counselor.
892
00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:24,592
- A test?
- A case that would allow
893
00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:26,250
you to change the law in your favor.
894
00:36:26,275 --> 00:36:27,474
Isn't that, in fact, why you
895
00:36:27,499 --> 00:36:28,717
- brought this case?
- No.
896
00:36:29,224 --> 00:36:31,258
I'm in love.
897
00:36:31,447 --> 00:36:33,004
That's the only reason I'm doing
898
00:36:33,029 --> 00:36:34,229
any of this, by the way.
899
00:36:34,254 --> 00:36:35,739
I'm in love.
900
00:36:38,372 --> 00:36:39,545
Nothing further.
901
00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,403
I have something further.
902
00:36:41,922 --> 00:36:43,210
Why doesn't anyone ever
903
00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:44,734
ask me what I believe?
904
00:36:44,759 --> 00:36:47,158
They take it for granted
I'm not a Christian, but
905
00:36:47,183 --> 00:36:50,884
I am. I believe in God, too.
906
00:36:52,432 --> 00:36:54,132
Am I proud of my wife?
907
00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:56,530
More than you can imagine, Petra.
908
00:36:56,555 --> 00:36:59,407
Winning an election in Chicago is...
909
00:36:59,432 --> 00:37:00,946
difficult.
910
00:37:00,971 --> 00:37:02,870
But winning an election in Chicago
911
00:37:02,895 --> 00:37:04,940
with your integrity still intact...
912
00:37:05,219 --> 00:37:06,924
Well, that's practically a miracle.
913
00:37:06,949 --> 00:37:09,516
- And Alicia Florrick has kept hers?
- Always.
914
00:37:11,885 --> 00:37:14,313
Governor, was your wife
sleeping with her boss,
915
00:37:14,338 --> 00:37:15,637
Will Gardner?
916
00:37:15,736 --> 00:37:17,477
Oh, well, I...
917
00:37:17,502 --> 00:37:19,536
I can't answer that question.
918
00:37:19,729 --> 00:37:21,803
Because you don't want to?
919
00:37:21,828 --> 00:37:25,162
No, no. Because I can't
confirm what you're asking.
920
00:37:25,187 --> 00:37:27,074
Just like, listen, I can't confirm
921
00:37:27,099 --> 00:37:29,099
that she was ever at a Neil Young concert.
922
00:37:29,124 --> 00:37:31,699
I can only confirm what
my wife has told me,
923
00:37:31,724 --> 00:37:33,898
which is she did not have an affair
924
00:37:33,923 --> 00:37:36,924
- with Mr. Gardner.
- Governor, we have copies of e-mails
925
00:37:36,949 --> 00:37:38,882
between your wife and Mr. Gardner.
926
00:37:38,907 --> 00:37:40,673
Which I'm sure you'd love to take
927
00:37:40,698 --> 00:37:42,460
as evidence of a scandalous
928
00:37:42,485 --> 00:37:46,044
office romance. But as
my wife told the reporter
929
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:48,201
Ted Willoughby, they are simply an artifact
930
00:37:48,226 --> 00:37:50,915
of a flirtation, not of an affair.
931
00:37:52,368 --> 00:37:53,769
I'm sorry, what?
932
00:37:53,794 --> 00:37:55,755
As she told the reporter Ted Willoughby
933
00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:58,426
of Channel 8 just a few hours ago,
934
00:37:58,451 --> 00:38:01,093
those e-mails were part of an unfortunate
935
00:38:01,118 --> 00:38:02,837
flirtation. That's it.
936
00:38:02,862 --> 00:38:04,161
Well, surely the...
937
00:38:04,186 --> 00:38:07,767
the language in these e-mails
938
00:38:07,792 --> 00:38:11,769
is not everyday talk between a superior and
939
00:38:11,794 --> 00:38:13,455
- subordinate.
- Well, that's a picture
940
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,402
you seem intent on painting.
I guess what my chief of staff
941
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:18,046
Eli Gold said to Kim Masters
942
00:38:18,071 --> 00:38:19,545
in their interview is true.
943
00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:21,837
- You're out to get her.
- No, I...
944
00:38:23,025 --> 00:38:25,113
I am just trying to reveal the truth,
945
00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:26,599
- Governor, and...
- Look, Petra,
946
00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:29,960
you've been trying to nail
Alicia for the last three years.
947
00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:32,705
- Governor...
- You have a grudge against her. You do.
948
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,654
I mean, if you look at any
of your interviews with her...
949
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,886
Okay, thank you, thank you.
950
00:38:35,911 --> 00:38:37,489
I think we have what we need here.
951
00:38:37,514 --> 00:38:41,067
- Okay. We're good?
- Yes, and thank you for... coming down.
952
00:38:41,092 --> 00:38:42,417
Oh, no, thank you.
953
00:38:42,442 --> 00:38:44,109
I think that went well.
954
00:38:44,134 --> 00:38:46,034
Hey, thank you. Good to see you.
955
00:38:46,059 --> 00:38:47,367
Okay, thank you.
956
00:38:57,822 --> 00:38:59,627
Speeding tickets? How many?
957
00:38:59,652 --> 00:39:01,492
Four.
958
00:39:01,494 --> 00:39:03,979
There were four, but he only
959
00:39:04,004 --> 00:39:06,054
fixed two for me... I
paid for the other two.
960
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,423
Just to keep it kosher?
961
00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:08,580
Yeah.
962
00:39:08,868 --> 00:39:10,168
Where'd you get 'em?
963
00:39:10,436 --> 00:39:12,374
Two in the Loop
964
00:39:12,399 --> 00:39:15,088
and one on the way back from Springfield.
965
00:39:15,113 --> 00:39:17,046
The other on the South Side.
966
00:39:17,071 --> 00:39:18,370
That's exactly what Howell said.
967
00:39:18,577 --> 00:39:20,214
Almost word for word.
968
00:39:20,494 --> 00:39:22,089
I got to go.
969
00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:23,881
There's a puppet show at the library.
970
00:39:24,183 --> 00:39:26,516
One last thing, Kalinda.
971
00:39:27,636 --> 00:39:29,215
You're caught.
972
00:39:29,892 --> 00:39:31,718
You faked the metadata.
973
00:39:34,143 --> 00:39:35,972
The longer it takes for you to admit it,
974
00:39:35,997 --> 00:39:37,730
the worse it's gonna be for you and Diane.
975
00:39:37,755 --> 00:39:39,586
So, I mean, I hate to say this,
976
00:39:40,113 --> 00:39:42,547
'cause I like you, but...
977
00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,890
if I were you, I'd come clean.
978
00:39:44,915 --> 00:39:46,201
Come on.
979
00:39:51,269 --> 00:39:53,238
Well, you've given this old
980
00:39:53,263 --> 00:39:56,064
con law professor a lot to think about.
981
00:39:56,619 --> 00:39:58,086
On the one hand, people
982
00:39:58,088 --> 00:40:00,021
have the right to their religious views,
983
00:40:00,023 --> 00:40:01,690
and they cannot and should not
984
00:40:01,692 --> 00:40:03,992
be barred from the
marketplace because of them.
985
00:40:03,994 --> 00:40:06,127
On the other hand, every
citizen has the right
986
00:40:06,129 --> 00:40:07,595
not to be discriminated against
987
00:40:07,597 --> 00:40:09,097
on the basis of their race,
988
00:40:09,099 --> 00:40:10,765
their color, their nationality,
989
00:40:10,767 --> 00:40:13,334
and yes, their sexual orientation.
990
00:40:13,336 --> 00:40:15,227
Well, given all that,
991
00:40:15,572 --> 00:40:18,406
my task is difficult but clear:
992
00:40:18,408 --> 00:40:20,174
I must weigh whether or not
993
00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:21,809
a religious accommodation
994
00:40:21,811 --> 00:40:23,578
would frustrate the core purpose
995
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:25,580
of antidiscrimination law.
996
00:40:25,582 --> 00:40:27,424
And in this case...
997
00:40:27,556 --> 00:40:29,250
I find that it would.
998
00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:31,452
Accordingly, I must rule
999
00:40:31,454 --> 00:40:33,087
in favor of the plaintiffs,
1000
00:40:33,089 --> 00:40:36,457
Mr. Taylor and Mr. Andersen.
1001
00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:39,855
Very well done.
1002
00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:50,471
Diane. Can I ask you something?
1003
00:40:51,393 --> 00:40:53,441
What do you think would happen
1004
00:40:53,443 --> 00:40:56,077
if every case were adjudicated
1005
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,512
by someone with a family member
1006
00:40:58,514 --> 00:41:01,749
or loved one who'd be
affected by the decision?
1007
00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:04,085
Ultimately, perhaps every case is.
1008
00:41:04,087 --> 00:41:06,153
But isn't the law
supposed to be impersonal?
1009
00:41:06,155 --> 00:41:09,056
In the sense that it should
be the same for everyone?
1010
00:41:09,058 --> 00:41:11,025
You know, otherwise we're in China,
1011
00:41:11,027 --> 00:41:13,160
right? Everything's
determined by who you know.
1012
00:41:13,162 --> 00:41:15,362
The law is supposed to be fair.
1013
00:41:15,364 --> 00:41:17,484
Not impersonal.
1014
00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:19,300
In fact, I would argue
1015
00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:21,902
that the law is always personal.
1016
00:41:21,904 --> 00:41:24,171
It has to see the human side, too.
1017
00:41:24,173 --> 00:41:26,106
Or else it's meaningless.
1018
00:41:29,746 --> 00:41:31,111
Hmm.
1019
00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:34,048
You're gonna fund this
defense anyway, aren't you?
1020
00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:36,083
The wedding planner?
1021
00:41:36,085 --> 00:41:37,303
Yes.
1022
00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:38,723
Why?
1023
00:41:40,322 --> 00:41:43,290
Three years ago, Barack Obama
1024
00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:44,992
was against gay marriage.
1025
00:41:44,994 --> 00:41:47,628
So was Bill Clinton. So was Hillary.
1026
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You know, basically every Democratic icon
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was lined up against gay marriage.
1028
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Now they're not. You know?
1029
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Because it's politically
expedient for them not to be.
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Who knows what they're
gonna be for or against
1031
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:03,810
in another three years, right?
1032
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I like people who stand by their opinions.
1033
00:42:08,384 --> 00:42:10,754
I like people who stand by their beliefs.
1034
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And I think
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00:42:13,188 --> 00:42:15,155
a religious accommodation
1036
00:42:15,157 --> 00:42:17,791
must be made for people who do that.
1037
00:42:17,793 --> 00:42:20,393
You know? It's the right thing to do.
1038
00:42:21,996 --> 00:42:23,663
And as we've discussed,
1039
00:42:23,665 --> 00:42:27,166
you're a highly educated,
very confident woman,
1040
00:42:27,191 --> 00:42:28,845
but you walk into this
1041
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:31,237
law firm, full of old bulls
1042
00:42:31,262 --> 00:42:33,603
and young tigers. Were you nervous?
1043
00:42:33,628 --> 00:42:34,918
Oh, very.
1044
00:42:34,943 --> 00:42:37,398
- That's nice. Very human.
- Just wait.
1045
00:42:37,423 --> 00:42:38,938
During our time together,
1046
00:42:38,963 --> 00:42:41,078
Mrs. Florrick talked
about what she had learned
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00:42:41,103 --> 00:42:43,094
as an attorney. About the importance
1048
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,773
of being smart, creative, zealous.
1049
00:42:45,798 --> 00:42:47,421
But the question surfacing
1050
00:42:47,446 --> 00:42:49,968
was
1051
00:42:49,993 --> 00:42:52,718
Alicia Florrick the candidate too creative,
1052
00:42:52,743 --> 00:42:55,404
too zealous, in her pursuit of
the state's attorney's office?
1053
00:42:55,452 --> 00:42:57,920
- What is she talking about?
- I have no idea.
1054
00:42:57,945 --> 00:43:00,547
I recently spoke with a
Chicago election monitor,
1055
00:43:00,572 --> 00:43:03,640
and serious accusations are being made
1056
00:43:03,665 --> 00:43:06,042
that the voting machines in some wards
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00:43:06,067 --> 00:43:08,738
registered votes for Frank Prady
1058
00:43:08,763 --> 00:43:10,863
as votes for Alicia Florrick.
1059
00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:12,751
- Mother of...
- And that may have
1060
00:43:12,776 --> 00:43:13,968
- been the difference
- What?
1061
00:43:13,968 --> 00:43:15,647
- in the state's attorney race.
- Oh.
1062
00:43:15,672 --> 00:43:18,011
- We are all in trouble now.
- Was the election stolen? For now
1063
00:43:18,036 --> 00:43:19,676
we don't know...
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