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Yeah, I know, I told him that.
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Yeah, well, I made it
very clear. I'll see you.
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Clive, I don't know how
many times I've told you
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but I require you to read
it, that's what I pay you for.
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We need to get the
legal advice before...
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Why on earth would you say
that it is my fault when apparently...
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As soon as we get close to the
deal, you say it's no good at all.
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It was fine. They changed
it. They changed it.
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Well, where is he? He's
meant to stay with the car.
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- Well, perhaps he went to the loo.
- Betting shop, more like.
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No, he's had too
many chances, that's it.
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- I'll drive myself right now.
- James, you no longer have a licence.
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Well, I can't take
the bus, can I, Clive?
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Look, Flo, I told you. This
is not up for discussion.
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I can't see you tonight.
Unless you want to be my driver.
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No, no, I'm going to a Downing
Street bash with my wife.
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Yeah, don't give me
an argument about it.
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Oh, no. No.
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- Mr Justice Everard, the new Presider.
- Yes, we were alerted, sir.
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Your Lordship. My
cases are in the back.
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Yes, My Lord.
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- Well, who's occupying this room?
- Mr Justice Deed is here, My Lord.
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Well, I'm the senior judge.
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Deed has no right to take
the best room for himself.
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His Lordship arrived
yesterday, Your Lordship.
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Well, this is very shoddy,
very shoddy behaviour.
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My Lord, shall I move
Sir John's things?
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No, put my bags back
in the car. I'm not staying.
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Thank you for attending
me on the circuit
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and agreeing that I should
give judgement by myself.
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I will post the full text of the
judgement on the internet.
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This is an appeal from a decision
of the Employment Appeal Tribunal
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on a point of law,
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that the core of the case is the
question whether injuries caused
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to Sergeant Jake Bridges
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could be legally due to
the work he was asked to do
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by his employer, the
Chief Constable for Sussex.
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This court does not accept
the argument of the appellant.
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You can't be serious.
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Sergeant Bridges, disappointing
as this must be for you,
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you must know from your
experience as a police officer
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that you really mustn't
address the court in this way.
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And whilst the court
sympathises with you,
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the injuries cannot
be seen in law
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as having been
caused by the work.
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Working with
computers gave me ME.
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Well, I will continue
reading the judgement.
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You have a copy and can
consider it with your lawyer.
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May I just ask,
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I assume the Sussex
Police are not seeking costs?
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- No, My Lord.
- Very well.
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This another health
hazard, do you think?
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I expect so, Judge.
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You've got that horrible man who killed
those two little girls and their mother
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- next on your list.
- Coop!
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- It's alleged he did this.
- No.
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He was driving while
on the mobile phone.
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I pulled a lot of strings to
get you this case, Judge.
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I'm sure that you'll give Mr
Brooklands just what he's got coming.
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You're outrageous. Could
have been an accident.
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Hi, Jo, it's me.
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Any word yet from the
Professional Conduct Committee?
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I've been trying
your phone all day,
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don't you pick up your
messages anymore?
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And, um,
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would you like to have dinner?
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She's gorgeous.
Where'd you get her?
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Where do you think?
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No sooner had I got Rosie re-homed
with my sister, Charlie finds this one.
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- She a puppy?
- Well, she thinks she is. She's two.
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- What's she called?
- Mimi.
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- Hello!
- Mimi.
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- Hey, I could do with some of that.
- Oh, no, no, no. Mimi's far safer.
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My case could come up before the
Professional Conduct Committee anytime.
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Wake up, John.
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I'm accused of having sex
with the judge I was before.
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Which judge is that, then?
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I don't think you're
taking this seriously.
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I think you're
worrying about nothing.
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Fine for you. Me they
can take off the road.
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Aren't you taking a
risk coming here, then?
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I want help.
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I'm up against your ex in a civil case
and I'm feeling a bit out of my depth.
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I wouldn't let it worry
you. It'll never get to court.
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Not with George,
she'll cut a deal.
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Her clients are One-Way PLC.
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Oh, that civil case.
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And they won't
settle. If they do,
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there'll be a flood of claims from
other damaged mobile phone users.
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Why are you doing civil work?
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Oh, I defended my client's
brother on a drug charge.
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She's hoping I can perform
the same magic for her.
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Well, it's all good experience
if you want to be a judge.
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What stroke is this, Mr
Petros? Where's the defendant?
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My Lord, Mr Brooklands
is in a psychiatric hospital.
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The psychiatrists say
he's not fit to stand trial.
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Are you running a
defence of insanity
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to a charge of causing
death by dangerous driving?
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No, My Lord, we're not arguing
Mr Brooklands was insane
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at the time of the accident,
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rather, his incoherent state of mind
now means he's not fit to stand trial.
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This case has attracted a
great deal of public concern
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and even more anger.
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I noticed from the
committal papers
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you argued your client couldn't
get a fair trial anywhere in the country
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owing to the amount of hostile
publicity that this case has attracted.
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You'll get a fair trial from
me, I can assure you.
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Events have rather
overtaken Mr Brooklands.
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I would direct Your Lordship
to the psychiatric reports.
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As set out under the
Criminal Procedure Act 1964,
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my client is incapable of
instructing either myself
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or his solicitors as to what
submission to put forward.
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Well, that must be very
worrying for you, Mr Petros.
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However, I'm not prepared to
accept these reports at face value.
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Under the 1964 Act,
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if there is any doubt as to a
defendant's fitness to plead,
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and I'm prepared to give Mr
Brooklands the benefit of the doubt,
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we must settle this before
any evidence is heard.
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Now, I want you here tomorrow
morning with your client and his doctors.
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We shall empanel a jury to give
a ruling as to his mental state.
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If their verdict is that he is sane,
we will then try him on the indictment.
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If the court decides
that he is unfit to plead,
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then under the
Criminal Procedures
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Act 1991,
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we shall conduct a
trial of the fact alone.
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- 10:00 tomorrow.
- With respect, My Lord,
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Mr Brooklands' doctors say he's
not fit enough to appear in court.
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Do they indicate what the
possible outcome will be if he does?
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Severe damage to his
mind is likely to result.
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Well, the contention is that he's
already severely mentally damaged.
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Further damage will be
difficult to detect, will it not?
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I want you here tomorrow morning
with your client and his doctors.
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I'm sure he'll be in
very capable hands.
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All rise.
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My Lord, clearly this
case should not be heard.
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Mr Brooklands is
not well enough.
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I'm glad you are taking
such an interest, Mr James,
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but it's on my list.
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Manipulated there
by your clerk, My Lord.
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Then it's fortunate for Mr Brooklands
that he has such a fair-minded judge
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who won't be influenced by
the size of his political donations.
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Excuse me, My Lord.
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Are you free for a directions
hearing in a negligence case?
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If it's not too
complicated, Mr Harrison.
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Oh, half a day, My Lord.
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The case itself concerns a claim
for damages against One-Way PLC.
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Mr Justice Everard was
to have heard it but...
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Well, counsel for both
parties are waiting.
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Why isn't Mr Justice
Everard hearing it?
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Well, it appears he did
arrive at the lodgings, My Lord,
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but was called back to London.
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All right, I'll read the papers.
Tell counsel after lunch.
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You've had my answer, Mr James.
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Have you heard who
we're now before?
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Mr Justice Everard.
It's on the list.
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Oh, no. It's the Deed.
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John? Well, that doesn't
exactly suit me, George.
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I could be hauled up in front of
the Professional Conduct Committee
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at any moment.
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So we all know which
way the case will go.
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We could make a joint approach
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and ask him to recuse
himself from the case
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because of his
relationship with us.
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My relationship
isn't the problem, Jo.
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- Your relationship is.
- We don't have a relationship.
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That's what I hope
the PCC accept.
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You'll be lucky.
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I don't particularly
want to hear the case.
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Mr Justice Everard
is indisposed.
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With his leg over some bit.
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Sorry, Mrs Channing, what
was that? I didn't quite...
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I said, "We'll miss his wit."
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The Court of Appeal
laid down guidelines
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as to when a judge may recuse himself
from a case. None of them apply here.
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With your leave, Judge,
I'm compelled to disagree.
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Ex-wives are fine, but
with current wives or lovers,
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there's a risk of
possible pillow talk.
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You've been listening
to the gossip, George.
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You know what they say,
"No smoke without fire."
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There's another saying,
"All gong and no dinner."
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Well, I can see I'm
going to have such fun.
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There are remedies to redress
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any miscarriage you feel may
follow from my having heard the case.
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Now, can we get started?
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Ian. Mrs Channing
just phoned me.
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- Deed is hearing the One-Way case.
- So it seems.
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It's a recipe for disaster.
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We're doing all we can
to retrieve the situation.
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But short of a bomb going off...
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Well, surely there's some
way we can head it off.
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It's already at court,
that's the problem.
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Mrs Channing will have any number
of delaying arguments at her disposal.
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Let's hope she uses them.
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Meanwhile, I suppose
the claimant might die.
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That would seem rather
heartless, even for the government.
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I will get an update on her
medical prognosis, Minister.
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I gather her brain
tumour's quite aggressive.
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Good. Keep me informed.
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What happened down
at Highfield, Laurence?
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If any case needs
a reliable judge
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it's this negligence
action against One-Way.
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Mr Justice Everard
is refusing to sit.
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It seems Mr Justice Deed arrived first
and took the best rooms at the lodgings.
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Is this what I am to tell the Lord
Chancellor if this case goes wrong?
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It will go wrong under
Deed's perverse management.
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- Get it away from him.
- Well, we don't see how, Sir Ian.
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There's a lot of bad
feeling between them.
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It came about at the Human
Rights Seminar at Warwick.
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Then putting them together wasn't
a sound management strategy.
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Why wasn't Deed sent to
Carlisle or somewhere instead?
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He wanted Highfield
again, Sir Ian.
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You thought Mr Justice
Everard would check him.
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Then Everard must get
back there and check him!
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- Where is he?
- In chambers in the Strand, sir.
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- I better go and talk to him.
- Deed is due to start
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the directions hearing
after lunch adjournment.
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If he does, there's no way
we can prise the case away.
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We could always appeal
to his better nature.
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Yes, why not?
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- Sorry to interrupt your lunch, John.
- Sit down, Ian.
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The matter is of
some importance.
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It's vegetables
and tomato ketchup.
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Best cook could come
up with at short notice.
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Didn't she know
you were arriving?
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Yes, yes, I just forgot to tell
her I'd become a vegetarian.
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Ah, that could make official
dining functions awkward.
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No, not really.
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I'll just get Mrs Cooper
to alert them in advance.
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- Your daughter's influence?
- Mmm, yes.
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But however, I did weigh
the evidence as I usually do.
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And came to your usual
perverse judgement.
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Yes.
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00:13:56,502 --> 00:14:00,371
Now you're worried about a perverse
judgement in the mobile phone case.
235
00:14:01,874 --> 00:14:03,740
Have you taken up
mind-reading, John?
236
00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:06,711
The more experience one gets
the more contacts one makes.
237
00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:08,941
I got an email from
somebody in your department.
238
00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:10,215
Would you mind telling me who?
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00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:15,351
When we breed a culture
of spying and reporting back,
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eventually we get spied upon
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and reported back.
242
00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:26,297
It's thought less than desirable
your hearing the cell phone case
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with Mrs Mills involved,
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in view of her hearing before
the Disciplinary Tribunal.
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00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:34,267
Is that still going ahead?
246
00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:42,214
If this cell phone case were
to go against the company
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- it could prove difficult for you?
- Not me personally.
248
00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:50,083
I mean, it could open
a floodgate of litigation.
249
00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:53,853
Like with tobacco and asbestos.
250
00:14:53,926 --> 00:14:57,419
We'd regard it as a great favour
if you were to let it go to back to
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00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:59,557
Monty Everard in the Strand.
252
00:14:59,665 --> 00:15:02,863
The claimant is very
poorly and she lives locally.
253
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,532
It seems unkind to ask her
to go all the way up to London.
254
00:15:07,106 --> 00:15:08,665
On the other hand,
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00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,836
being owed a favour by your lot
256
00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:14,573
might be a very good
position to put myself in.
257
00:15:15,448 --> 00:15:17,417
We would be grateful.
258
00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:21,280
Is Monty Everard
amenable to pressure?
259
00:15:21,788 --> 00:15:22,915
Ah.
260
00:15:25,391 --> 00:15:28,919
Does that mean you're not
interested in what we might offer you?
261
00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:31,122
Just not convinced
you could deliver.
262
00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,165
You'd have my word.
263
00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:38,895
Then talk to me about my
elevation to the Appellate Bench.
264
00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:43,743
The Lord Chancellor
regrets not having a mind
265
00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:45,904
such as yours in
the Appeal Court.
266
00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:53,216
And this ridiculously unfair PCC
hearing against Mrs Mills being dropped.
267
00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:57,680
The Lord Chancellor's department
had very little influence there.
268
00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:03,825
They're all reasonable men
on the Disciplinary Tribunal.
269
00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:12,864
Well, the only question remaining,
then, Ian, is can we achieve all this
270
00:16:12,939 --> 00:16:15,568
within the next 20 minutes?
271
00:16:16,542 --> 00:16:18,807
I hardly think
that's practicable.
272
00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,779
Because that's when I'm hearing
the arguments for directions
273
00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:24,181
in the mobile phone case.
274
00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:31,181
We respect the integrity and
independence of the judiciary, Sir John.
275
00:16:32,091 --> 00:16:35,084
But there comes a point
when its very existence
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00:16:35,194 --> 00:16:39,131
depends upon a workable
relationship with the Executive.
277
00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:43,325
Never more so than in the
case you're about to hear.
278
00:16:43,402 --> 00:16:47,863
See, with the licence revenue from
the mobile phone companies at stake,
279
00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:53,140
well, what is it, £22 billion,
this workable relationship
280
00:16:53,212 --> 00:16:57,843
might easily deteriorate into
a master-servant relationship.
281
00:16:57,950 --> 00:16:59,248
Couldn't it, Ian?
282
00:17:01,821 --> 00:17:04,222
Sure you won't stay for lunch?
283
00:17:06,993 --> 00:17:08,791
Did you get anywhere
with Monty Everard?
284
00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:12,730
No, sir, I'm afraid not. But
one of our sources told us
285
00:17:12,832 --> 00:17:16,166
that Deed slept with an attractive
French judge at the Warwick seminar
286
00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:19,398
after Mr Justice Everard had
spent three days chatting her up.
287
00:17:20,172 --> 00:17:23,370
There's no longer time for Everard
to get here before Deed starts.
288
00:17:24,443 --> 00:17:26,105
I'll speak to Everard.
289
00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:29,637
Meanwhile, you better come up with some
delaying strategies and fast, Laurence.
290
00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:51,532
- What's happening, Coop?
- It's a bomb scare, Judge.
291
00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:53,324
How long are we
going to be displaced?
292
00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:56,570
Well, the police are making a
minute search of all the buildings.
293
00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:58,543
That could take all afternoon.
294
00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:03,276
The court manager is advising judges
to send their cases home for today.
295
00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:05,214
Is he?
296
00:18:05,651 --> 00:18:10,055
Row, its John, I'm at court.
We've got a bomb scare.
297
00:18:10,122 --> 00:18:13,286
If I needed some information,
could you get it for me?
298
00:18:13,392 --> 00:18:15,918
I doubt if I'd tell
you, even if I could.
299
00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:19,487
It'd be available on a need-to-know
basis only. Why do you need to know?
300
00:18:19,565 --> 00:18:23,969
Oh, maybe I'm
just being paranoid.
301
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:26,301
Listen, thanks,
Row. I'll call you later.
302
00:18:26,372 --> 00:18:28,116
Police don't know where
the warning came from
303
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:30,319
but the caller had enough
information about the building
304
00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:32,505
for them to take it seriously.
305
00:18:32,578 --> 00:18:33,910
So the caller knew the building?
306
00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:37,181
Can I get in and get my papers?
307
00:18:37,249 --> 00:18:39,946
Everyone wants
to do that, Judge.
308
00:18:41,387 --> 00:18:43,015
Find Mrs Mills and Mrs Channing.
309
00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:45,615
We'll start the directions
hearing at the digs.
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00:18:48,661 --> 00:18:52,621
Mrs Hulsey, as the claimant and
the person most inconvenienced
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00:18:52,698 --> 00:18:55,759
by this action, I need to
ask you some questions.
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00:18:55,868 --> 00:19:00,704
These you can answer directly
yourself or through your counsel.
313
00:19:00,773 --> 00:19:02,765
- It's Ms, sir. I'm not married.
- I do apologise.
314
00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:05,777
- Is this your son?
- Yes. Michael.
315
00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:09,145
- How old are you, Michael?
- I'll be eight on June 5th.
316
00:19:09,215 --> 00:19:12,083
- What's the book you're reading?
- Lord of the Rings.
317
00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:15,177
Is it? That's
impressive for seven.
318
00:19:16,088 --> 00:19:18,717
- What book you on?
- Two Towers.
319
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:22,886
Wow! I was 11 before
I read the first book.
320
00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,863
- He's a very keen reader.
- Yes, he must be.
321
00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:32,530
Ms Hulsey, is it your earnest
intention to pursue this claim?
322
00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:34,506
It is. It's why I'm here.
323
00:19:34,573 --> 00:19:37,907
Well, you see, it needn't
necessarily follow.
324
00:19:37,977 --> 00:19:39,639
No doubt your
barrister, Mrs Mills,
325
00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:42,738
has explained to you what
will happen, but believe me,
326
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:45,683
whatever she has said,
that's only the half of it.
327
00:19:47,586 --> 00:19:52,718
Is your health such that
you're likely to be able to finish?
328
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:56,819
Some days it's better than
others. I'm determined to continue.
329
00:20:00,299 --> 00:20:02,928
This case was to have been
heard by Mr Justice Everard.
330
00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:04,697
Would you prefer to wait for him
331
00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:07,672
or are you content to
be heard here by me?
332
00:20:11,977 --> 00:20:14,378
My client would prefer to
be heard as soon as possible.
333
00:20:14,447 --> 00:20:18,248
She feels that if there are protracted
delays, her health might give out.
334
00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:21,149
All right. And do you understand
that this is just a hearing
335
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,917
about whether
evidence is admissible
336
00:20:24,023 --> 00:20:26,993
and that should the
defendant's arguments prevail,
337
00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,618
I might prevent you
from proceeding?
338
00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:32,426
Yes, Jo... Mrs Mills
explained that to me.
339
00:20:32,498 --> 00:20:36,629
All right. Is there any way
that this case can be settled
340
00:20:36,702 --> 00:20:39,399
without recourse to the court?
341
00:20:39,505 --> 00:20:41,599
We don't accept
there is a case to settle.
342
00:20:41,707 --> 00:20:44,108
No need to stand. Mrs Mills?
343
00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:46,907
The defendants have
approached us on several occasions
344
00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:49,175
to argue points they feel
will invalidate the case.
345
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:51,615
We don't accept the contention.
346
00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:54,176
Then it seems likely
you're going to trial.
347
00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:57,253
But the case is ready
to go before a judge?
348
00:20:57,356 --> 00:20:59,668
That's what we're about to
hear, Ms Hulsey. Shall we start?
349
00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:04,027
Before we do, My Lord, I have
a point of law I'd like to raise.
350
00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:07,231
- Go on.
- I wish to challenge the legality
351
00:21:07,299 --> 00:21:10,792
of your conducting this
hearing in this informal setting.
352
00:21:10,903 --> 00:21:13,395
You have an authority to support
this challenge, Mrs Channing?
353
00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:16,738
Well, I'm sure I do, My Lord, if
only I were in a formal setting
354
00:21:16,809 --> 00:21:18,835
where I had access
to Halsbury's Laws.
355
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:23,211
Well, alas, we are
not and you don't.
356
00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:25,079
However, I am certain
357
00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:28,586
that my decision to hold the
directions hearing here is sound.
358
00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:31,818
The Supreme Court Act
1981 is a bit like the Bible.
359
00:21:32,858 --> 00:21:35,851
- My Lord, I wish to develop my argument.
- Then do so.
360
00:21:37,196 --> 00:21:40,462
You know very well
I can't at present.
361
00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:43,429
Then, Mrs Channing,
to quote Wittgenstein,
362
00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:46,802
"Whereof we cannot speak,
thereof we must remain silent."
363
00:21:47,506 --> 00:21:52,137
Let's hear your argument on the
evidence you want excluded, shall we?
364
00:21:52,211 --> 00:21:54,442
I cannot remain silent
and witness an injustice
365
00:21:54,547 --> 00:21:56,345
perpetrated against my client.
366
00:21:56,415 --> 00:22:00,284
If you don't remain silent on other than
the substance of the pre-trial hearing,
367
00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:03,481
I'll hold you in contempt,
and this is your only warning.
368
00:22:03,589 --> 00:22:08,050
Is this going to be your argument
on the evidence you want excluded?
369
00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:13,123
As you will know from your
papers, My Lord, my argument relates
370
00:22:13,232 --> 00:22:16,464
to an email the claimant
illegally obtained from the internet.
371
00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:21,132
I'd gladly develop my argument,
if only I had access to my papers,
372
00:22:21,207 --> 00:22:26,373
which at this moment sit
inaccessible in Number 2 court.
373
00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:30,539
Fine. Well, then,
having started this case,
374
00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:32,482
I will adjourn it till tomorrow.
375
00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:35,145
When, Mr Clerk, I'm afraid
I'm unable to say at present.
376
00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:36,985
But I would like both parties
377
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:39,423
to stand by until I'm
free of my other case.
378
00:22:39,491 --> 00:22:41,460
Until the morning.
379
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:43,822
Jo?
380
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:50,234
I'm afraid the Disciplinary Tribunal
is going ahead with the hearing.
381
00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:54,871
They keep me waiting on
tenterhooks for 11 months
382
00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:56,875
and I get to hear
it from you. Great.
383
00:22:56,942 --> 00:23:00,003
I meant what I promised,
Jo. I will fight them with you.
384
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:02,290
My head of chambers thinks
that might make matters worse.
385
00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:03,558
Do we know who's
chairing the hearing?
386
00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:06,228
No, it'll be a High Court judge,
though. You'll come out of this all right.
387
00:23:06,252 --> 00:23:08,847
I don't want to come out
all right, I want to be cleared.
388
00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:10,820
It's all your fault anyway.
389
00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:25,197
- They didn't find any bombs, John.
- No, I bet they didn't.
390
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:31,110
Now, I find it hard to believe
that a senior civil servant
391
00:23:31,176 --> 00:23:33,771
would pull such a stroke just
to stop you hearing a case.
392
00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:36,543
Oh, I doubt if Ian actually
made the call himself.
393
00:23:36,615 --> 00:23:38,846
Or the circuit administrator.
394
00:23:40,019 --> 00:23:42,250
But if it was done and
they've involved someone else
395
00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:44,482
they're at an even
greater risk of exposure.
396
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,719
You have to consider
what's at stake.
397
00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:52,729
Mobile phone licences are worth
£22 billion to the government.
398
00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:54,891
If juries start finding
in favour of claimants,
399
00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:57,967
they could blow some of these mobile
phone companies right out of the water.
400
00:23:58,070 --> 00:24:00,505
Presumably their insurance
companies would pay.
401
00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:03,940
Insurance companies
are now declining cover.
402
00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:05,773
Yes, well, I see the pressure.
403
00:24:05,844 --> 00:24:08,245
I'll try to find out
more about the bomb.
404
00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:11,179
A word, sir?
405
00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:17,655
Do you want your
clerk to hear this?
406
00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:20,902
Well, I can't think it's
anything that she won't know
407
00:24:20,926 --> 00:24:24,294
within five minutes of your
leaving my chambers, Monty.
408
00:24:24,396 --> 00:24:27,230
This is going to be
a difficult term for us.
409
00:24:28,233 --> 00:24:31,431
- Is there a problem?
- Oh, don't be cute, sir.
410
00:24:31,503 --> 00:24:34,302
I'm the Presider. I have
seniority in court and in lodgings.
411
00:24:34,373 --> 00:24:37,002
You took my room at the digs.
412
00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:40,170
Well, I'll move my things if
it matters so much to you.
413
00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:44,649
The issue is one of good
manners. I've moved to a hotel.
414
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:46,844
What is of greater
importance is the case
415
00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:48,682
that you've taken
which I was hearing.
416
00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:52,417
No, I take cases as they
arrive, the cab-rank principle.
417
00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:57,020
You'd declined to sit, so as the next
most senior judge, the case came to me.
418
00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:58,656
No, I was going to
hear it in the Strand
419
00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:01,724
but the claimant was ill, so
I agreed to hear it on circuit.
420
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:02,911
Well, if you wanted the case
421
00:25:02,935 --> 00:25:05,598
the normal procedure is
to reserve it to yourself.
422
00:25:05,704 --> 00:25:09,368
Don't presume to instruct me
in procedure, I know the form.
423
00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:10,773
I want my case back.
424
00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:15,610
I'm happy to give you the room, Monty,
but the negligence case is now mine.
425
00:25:15,714 --> 00:25:19,742
No, sir, you will observe the correct
procedure and give the case up.
426
00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:21,411
No.
427
00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:25,982
In all my days on the bench, I have
never encountered such discourtesy.
428
00:25:26,058 --> 00:25:28,994
I'm shocked by your
behaviour. I won't tolerate it.
429
00:25:29,061 --> 00:25:32,088
You'll come to regret
crossing swords with me, sir.
430
00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:34,633
All right. Still
don't get the case.
431
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,603
I seriously doubt your ability
to hear this or any other case.
432
00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:42,339
Goodbye, Monty.
433
00:25:49,415 --> 00:25:52,044
Oh, dear. Hadn't you better
let him have the case, Judge?
434
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:54,279
He is the Presider, after all.
435
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:58,184
In another country one might
suspect him of being venal.
436
00:25:58,991 --> 00:26:02,120
He could have shares in
the mobile phone company.
437
00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:04,628
Oh, I doubt it. He'd
have to recuse himself.
438
00:26:04,696 --> 00:26:07,632
You know what they call
him around the Strand, Judge?
439
00:26:07,699 --> 00:26:10,294
You mustn't repeat such things.
440
00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:14,339
Yes, I know. Legover Everard.
441
00:26:18,977 --> 00:26:21,742
Keep your ear to
the ground, Coop.
442
00:26:21,814 --> 00:26:24,807
This won't be their last
attempt to get the case back.
443
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:32,883
You're up about late, Ian.
Or did you dine locally?
444
00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:35,119
I came bearing an olive branch.
445
00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:37,128
Oh, do we need one?
446
00:26:46,371 --> 00:26:50,934
We cannot allow this rift to deepen
between you and Sir Monty Everard.
447
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,646
I agreed to give
him the best room.
448
00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:58,410
What I won't agree is to
relinquish a case I've now started.
449
00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:00,816
I understand the
principle entirely.
450
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,082
Does Monty Everard?
451
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:07,990
This is so unnecessary. It
seems Mrs Channing is to offer you
452
00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:11,861
an argument that will provide you
with a neat exit from this impasse.
453
00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:15,757
Is it an impasse?
454
00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:18,694
Oh, thank you.
455
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,370
This is entirely
coincidental, John.
456
00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:32,617
But there is a vacancy
arising on the Appellate Bench.
457
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:37,418
Regardless of the
opposition from your brethren,
458
00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,326
the Lord Chancellor
is keen for you to fill it.
459
00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:46,328
Are you making me an offer?
460
00:27:46,431 --> 00:27:49,060
You know we only have
the power to recommend.
461
00:27:49,134 --> 00:27:52,104
The Queen would appoint you,
should you indicate your willingness
462
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:54,606
to accept the elevation.
463
00:27:55,807 --> 00:27:56,934
Well,
464
00:27:58,977 --> 00:28:01,742
in view of our past, Ian,
465
00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:04,339
I think I would need
to see the small print.
466
00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:11,189
Judge, Mrs Mills has just
heard the Disciplinary Tribunal
467
00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:12,849
is on Thursday and Friday.
468
00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:16,521
This Thursday and Friday?
What brought that on?
469
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,096
Did she say who's chairing it?
470
00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:19,797
Only that she needs
to be free of court.
471
00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:23,063
She doesn't want to leave the beginning
of the mobile phone case to her junior.
472
00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:26,902
That case might not even run,
Coop, at least not before me.
473
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,247
I trust you now
have some authority
474
00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:38,579
for your argument
yesterday, Mrs Channing?
475
00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:44,180
St Edmonsbury and Ipswich
Diocesan Board of Finance and Clarke,
476
00:28:44,256 --> 00:28:47,920
Chancery cases
1973, at page 323,
477
00:28:48,026 --> 00:28:51,121
was what I was
groping for, My Lord.
478
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:57,434
Mr Justice McGarry took the
Chancery Division to Suffolk
479
00:28:57,502 --> 00:29:01,064
to take evidence from an
84-year-old witness in poor health.
480
00:29:01,139 --> 00:29:04,906
He did so without the
authorisation of the Lord Chancellor.
481
00:29:04,977 --> 00:29:08,436
The Appeal Court judge held
that it wasn't constitutional to do so
482
00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:10,743
and overturned the judgement.
483
00:29:11,984 --> 00:29:16,251
I confess to not being familiar
with this case, Mrs Channing.
484
00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:20,122
Accepting that time
is against the claimant,
485
00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:22,854
I could overrule you for
compassionate reasons
486
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:24,692
as I have heard
nothing so far to suggest
487
00:29:24,796 --> 00:29:28,631
that anything I did is
remotely anomalous in law.
488
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,669
I am reluctant to do so.
489
00:29:30,736 --> 00:29:32,376
If any judgement in
favour of the claimant
490
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:35,168
might be overruled
on a technicality.
491
00:29:35,274 --> 00:29:37,539
Although as you are
perfectly well aware,
492
00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:40,204
I made no ruling other
than to adjourn the hearing.
493
00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:44,443
I see no point in proceeding with
this until I've read the authority.
494
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:46,160
So, I'll give my ruling
first thing in the morning.
495
00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:47,277
My Lord...
496
00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:48,963
I'll hear from you first
thing, Mrs Mills. Till morning.
497
00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:50,615
All rise.
498
00:29:52,991 --> 00:29:54,516
Are we winning?
499
00:29:57,729 --> 00:29:59,493
The fitness to plead
in the causing death
500
00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:02,067
by dangerous driving
case is waiting, Judge.
501
00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,865
Is the defendant present now?
502
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:07,872
Yes, Judge, with an
army of psychiatrists.
503
00:30:07,939 --> 00:30:11,137
Oh, I'm sure Mr
Brooklands can afford them.
504
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,406
Perhaps you'd get
me some coffee, Coop?
505
00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:16,607
Yeah.
506
00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:24,079
- Are you still in the building?
- Yes.
507
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:26,015
Fancy some coffee?
508
00:30:26,091 --> 00:30:27,851
I don't think so, not
without George present.
509
00:30:28,126 --> 00:30:29,719
Oh, we won't talk
about the case.
510
00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:32,197
Anyway, Coop's here.
511
00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:34,923
We can invite George if it'd
make you feel more comfortable.
512
00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:38,435
She already embroiders this
relationship more than she should.
513
00:30:38,937 --> 00:30:40,315
Thanks, Coop. Would
you mind staying?
514
00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:43,104
We are going to discuss
Mrs Mills' disciplinary hearing.
515
00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,509
Well, I've been called as a
witness, Judge, for the Bar Council.
516
00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:49,047
Ah, I forgot. You've been
asked to give a statement.
517
00:30:49,147 --> 00:30:51,412
Well, no, perhaps
you better not stay.
518
00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:54,609
I don't know what they
think I can tell them.
519
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:58,817
What you can or cannot tell them
is not what interests them, Coop.
520
00:31:04,496 --> 00:31:06,624
They really mean
to get me, don't they?
521
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:13,496
All rise.
522
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:25,642
My apologies for the
delay. I have another case.
523
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:29,419
There is difficulty in
being in two places at once.
524
00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:31,756
Now then, Mr Petros.
525
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,426
Does your client
understand where he is?
526
00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,897
More importantly, does
he know why he's here?
527
00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:42,263
Alas, the nature of his illness
528
00:31:42,334 --> 00:31:46,271
is such that he dips in and
out of his cognitive functions.
529
00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:52,535
I would direct you to the
Crown against Pritchard in 1836.
530
00:31:52,611 --> 00:31:54,051
As I am sure Your
Lordship is aware,
531
00:31:54,112 --> 00:31:56,547
this is the leading
case of determination.
532
00:31:57,182 --> 00:32:01,210
Baron Allison characterised
this most important question thus,
533
00:32:02,254 --> 00:32:04,621
"Is the defendant
of sufficient intellect
534
00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:07,921
"to comprehend the course
of the proceedings in a trial,
535
00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:10,427
"so as to make a
proper defence?"
536
00:32:11,797 --> 00:32:13,561
The answer here,
you will discover,
537
00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:17,432
on examining both the
defendant and the doctors
538
00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:19,703
is certainly that he is not.
539
00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:23,538
Yes, thank you, Mr Petros, I
am familiar with this leading case.
540
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,600
In current law,
541
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:28,202
the question to be
tried by a judge and jury
542
00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:32,978
is whether the defendant is capable
of giving, receiving, and understanding
543
00:32:33,051 --> 00:32:35,282
communications
relating to a criminal trial.
544
00:32:35,387 --> 00:32:39,654
The issues the court will
focus on in deciding are
545
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:43,422
the challenging of a
jury, the idea of a plea,
546
00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,124
evidence given in the trial and
547
00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:49,133
whether he is capable
of instructing his solicitors.
548
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,335
I assume he did
instruct solicitors?
549
00:32:52,437 --> 00:32:55,373
Initially, then, subsequently
he dropped out of the box.
550
00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:57,705
His wife has been
instructing them since.
551
00:32:57,776 --> 00:33:00,177
- Is Mrs Brooklands in court?
- She is.
552
00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:03,973
Ah, Mrs Brooklands.
553
00:33:04,049 --> 00:33:07,952
Is your husband capable of
giving you his instructions?
554
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:10,149
No, not any longer.
555
00:33:10,222 --> 00:33:13,852
I instruct his solicitor according
to what I believe he would want.
556
00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:16,321
I see. Thank you.
557
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:27,161
You see, the crime with
which Mr Brooklands is charged
558
00:33:28,406 --> 00:33:30,500
is extraordinarily grave.
559
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:36,774
That he recklessly drove his car into
two young children and their mother
560
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:40,808
causing their death and
then wantonly left the scene.
561
00:33:40,886 --> 00:33:44,414
Were he to walk away
from court without a trial,
562
00:33:44,489 --> 00:33:48,017
either to establish
his mental condition
563
00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:52,497
or to see if he was indeed the
author of this dreadful tragedy,
564
00:33:52,597 --> 00:33:54,327
might lead the public to wonder
565
00:33:54,432 --> 00:33:56,867
whether justice is
possible under the law.
566
00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:01,563
We must first establish whether
the defendant is fit to plead.
567
00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:04,302
Sp let us empanel a
jury for the first part.
568
00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:06,675
My Lord, would you hear
an argument in chambers?
569
00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:08,111
No, Mr Petros,
570
00:34:08,179 --> 00:34:11,638
this is a matter now for a jury,
for the reasons I've just given.
571
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,418
Let's have the jury
candidates, Mr Clerk.
572
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:20,225
I'm not sure, but I think I might
agree with defence counsel.
573
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,262
There's a possibility Brooklands
might not get a fair trial.
574
00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:25,490
You must be joking, Judge.
575
00:34:25,597 --> 00:34:27,566
Do you think he's
faking his illness?
576
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:29,760
You can't let him avoid
his responsibilities.
577
00:34:29,868 --> 00:34:32,133
Men do that too easily, Judge.
578
00:34:43,114 --> 00:34:45,310
We going to school or court?
579
00:34:47,852 --> 00:34:48,979
Mum?
580
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:06,094
I'm sorry you have to
cope with this, Michael.
581
00:35:06,171 --> 00:35:08,731
You're so very brave.
582
00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:10,867
Most adults wouldn't
have a clue what to do.
583
00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:12,934
Have you got to stay here?
584
00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:14,741
No, I won't do that, darling.
585
00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:16,805
- Hi, Michael.
- Hi, Armac.
586
00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:22,049
What are we going
to do with you, Di?
587
00:35:24,889 --> 00:35:26,755
Has it got worse?
588
00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:29,852
It's now a grade 4 astrocytoma.
589
00:35:29,928 --> 00:35:31,829
They don't get any better, Di.
590
00:35:33,231 --> 00:35:36,326
Did you think any more
about that radical radiotherapy?
591
00:35:38,169 --> 00:35:39,831
Have the odds improved?
592
00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:43,135
It's still six-to-one.
593
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:45,074
But if we leave it, then...
594
00:35:48,179 --> 00:35:52,173
- How's your case going?
- Well, at least it's going to court.
595
00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:55,679
Mmm. You're not
going to give up.
596
00:35:57,956 --> 00:36:02,690
Well, here we are
again. All very cosy.
597
00:36:02,794 --> 00:36:04,888
John just itching to
give you your way again.
598
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,160
George, what is your problem?
Are you still in love with him?
599
00:36:09,234 --> 00:36:10,759
I don't think I ever was.
600
00:36:10,869 --> 00:36:12,428
Then why don't you
leave him alone?
601
00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:15,474
It's the unfairness of the
situation for my clients.
602
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,408
How could you be married to a
man for so long, bear his child,
603
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:20,172
and still know so
little about him?
604
00:36:20,278 --> 00:36:23,214
John would never say
or do anything dishonest.
605
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:27,115
- There's no denying you were in his bed.
- When?
606
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,347
I've seen the photos.
607
00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:30,980
Photos, what photos?
608
00:36:31,056 --> 00:36:34,993
I'd like to know how he's going to
save this career he's worked so hard on.
609
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:36,619
George, what is
that meant to mean?
610
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,493
You work it out.
611
00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:40,892
They're ready in court.
612
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,269
- What photos? Who took them?
- You tell me.
613
00:36:44,335 --> 00:36:46,770
They're your rooms I was
in. I was drunk, remember?
614
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:48,396
A spy sneaked into my room.
615
00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:51,567
You know how much faith courts
and tribunals place in such evidence.
616
00:36:51,676 --> 00:36:52,700
I'll be finished.
617
00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:59,182
Mrs Channing, I have
read your authority,
618
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,845
and it seems to me that you've
completely reversed the meaning.
619
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,787
Either that or you're
being entirely facetious.
620
00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:06,085
Oh, entirely facetious.
621
00:37:06,191 --> 00:37:09,059
Mrs Channing, you'll
have to speak up.
622
00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:10,652
I do apologise, My Lord,
623
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:14,222
in my haste to prevent an
injustice, I misread the authority.
624
00:37:14,299 --> 00:37:16,928
However, there is another
point of law I'd like to raise
625
00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,368
concerning your hearing
this case, My Lord.
626
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,440
- You surprise me.
- Doesn't she?
627
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:27,674
With respect, My Lord, my argument
concerns your hearing this case.
628
00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:33,609
In view of your personal involvement
with counsel for the claimant,
629
00:37:33,718 --> 00:37:37,177
my client fails to see how they
can get an impartial hearing.
630
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:39,156
That would be a
matter for appeal
631
00:37:39,224 --> 00:37:41,716
should this court find
against your client.
632
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:44,489
Well, it's a simple matter, My
Lord, that can be resolved here.
633
00:37:44,596 --> 00:37:46,531
My clients would
feel more comfortable
634
00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:49,032
were you to recuse
yourself from this case.
635
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:52,867
The functioning of justice in
this country is entirely dependent
636
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:56,066
upon the impartiality
of the judiciary.
637
00:37:56,141 --> 00:37:58,110
As Lord Bingham
pointed out in Locabail,
638
00:37:58,176 --> 00:38:02,375
All England Reports
2000, Volume 1, page 69,
639
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:05,611
that right is guaranteed by the European
Convention of Human and Rights.
640
00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:08,619
Do you want the
full quotation? No.
641
00:38:09,654 --> 00:38:12,818
I would direct Your Lordship
to the Pinochet Appeal 2000.
642
00:38:12,891 --> 00:38:14,985
The House of Lords held
that the appeal was unsafe
643
00:38:15,059 --> 00:38:16,823
because the wife of
one of the appeal judges
644
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:19,091
had a relationship with
Amnesty International.
645
00:38:19,197 --> 00:38:20,825
I fail to see the relevance.
646
00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:22,765
There the connection,
if tenuous, was plain.
647
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,768
I have no relationship
with Mrs Mills,
648
00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:27,964
other than the fact that like many
other barristers, she appears before me.
649
00:38:28,072 --> 00:38:30,974
My Lord, this won't
satisfy my clients.
650
00:38:31,075 --> 00:38:34,876
Mrs Channing, judges are not
there to be chosen by litigants
651
00:38:34,946 --> 00:38:36,574
as they might choose a car.
652
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:40,551
She's appearing before a
Disciplinary Tribunal of the Bar Council.
653
00:38:40,618 --> 00:38:41,796
No, no, no. No, that's enough.
654
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:43,731
I want to address you on
what she's accused of doing.
655
00:38:43,755 --> 00:38:46,054
No. I have ruled. This
matter is now closed.
656
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:49,059
It's something for the Court of
Appeal if this goes against your clients.
657
00:38:49,127 --> 00:38:51,426
Now, do you have
any more points of law?
658
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:55,197
Might we have a short adjournment
while I consult my clients?
659
00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:58,697
Fifteen minutes?
660
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:05,337
Ian, I've just been called out
of a cabinet sub-committee
661
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:06,935
by George Channing.
662
00:39:08,813 --> 00:39:12,181
- You know what I'm about to say.
- Minister.
663
00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:17,186
We're doing all we can to
wrestle the case away from Deed.
664
00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:20,248
That's easy in theory, in
practice it proves very difficult.
665
00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:22,452
This is getting
out of hand, Ian.
666
00:39:22,527 --> 00:39:25,224
All the ministers with an
interest are unanimous on this.
667
00:39:25,296 --> 00:39:27,629
Then perhaps they
have a solution.
668
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:31,067
No. That is for our civil
servants to come up with.
669
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:35,163
I'm in the hot seat because the
Department of Trade and Industry
670
00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:37,367
sold these cell phone licences.
671
00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:40,673
And, of course, I do find myself
in a rather delicate position
672
00:39:40,745 --> 00:39:42,907
because George Channing
is involved in the case.
673
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:45,576
Perhaps you could get
her to assassinate him.
674
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,650
We'd happily supply the gun.
675
00:39:49,487 --> 00:39:52,047
You do realise
what's at stake here?
676
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,886
Mobile phones are
not a health hazard.
677
00:39:57,996 --> 00:40:00,727
Then we've nothing to
concern ourselves about.
678
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:03,461
Everyone suffers from
such negative publicity.
679
00:40:03,534 --> 00:40:06,971
I doubt it will cost the government
or companies much in lost revenue.
680
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:10,803
After all, negative publicity hasn't
cost the tobacco companies anything.
681
00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:13,140
Mobile phones are
entirely different.
682
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:17,779
Tobacco is not an essential element
of business or social interaction.
683
00:40:18,816 --> 00:40:21,786
If this goes wrong, Ian,
mobile phone companies
684
00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:26,018
could be faced with swingeing
compensation claims against them.
685
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,491
We do have one
more lever under Deed,
686
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:31,893
when Mrs Mills appears
before the disciplinary hearing.
687
00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:33,791
A big shock.
688
00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:36,664
Mmm. It had better
amount to something.
689
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,143
Call me on my land line.
690
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,712
It is my clients' wish
691
00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:55,529
that I do not pursue the matter of
your impartiality further, My Lord.
692
00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:56,577
Then can we get on?
693
00:40:56,654 --> 00:40:59,146
For fear it will
prejudice their case.
694
00:40:59,223 --> 00:41:02,159
It couldn't, as you well
know, Mrs Channing.
695
00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:07,723
Now, you have some objection to the
evidence being offered by the claimant.
696
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,827
The claimant and her counsel
have not only behaved unfairly,
697
00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:14,930
indeed, they have
behaved unlawfully, My Lord.
698
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,770
They have in their possession
copies of erased emails
699
00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:20,106
sent by my clients
and to my clients.
700
00:41:20,611 --> 00:41:24,378
These they obtained in
contravention of the laws of procedure.
701
00:41:24,449 --> 00:41:26,748
Were these documents
sought in disclosure, Mrs Mills?
702
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:29,811
They were, My Lord.
Despite frequent requests,
703
00:41:29,887 --> 00:41:31,981
the defendants failed
to produce them.
704
00:41:32,056 --> 00:41:35,356
For the simple reason they did
not exist as disclosable documents
705
00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:37,088
at the time this
action was started.
706
00:41:37,195 --> 00:41:41,633
Mrs Channing, documents, whether
physical or electronic, are disclosable
707
00:41:41,699 --> 00:41:42,779
if they relate to the case.
708
00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:44,733
These relate
directly to the case.
709
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:47,965
The documents contain a
report showing a causal link
710
00:41:48,072 --> 00:41:52,168
between the radiation in the form of
microwaves produced by cell phones
711
00:41:52,276 --> 00:41:56,304
and scrambled patterns of
electrical activity in the brain.
712
00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,341
This leads to the stripping
of proteins from cells
713
00:41:58,383 --> 00:41:59,976
which can in turn
lead to tumours.
714
00:42:00,051 --> 00:42:02,816
These do sound like disclosable
documents, Mrs Channing.
715
00:42:02,887 --> 00:42:05,618
Had they existed in
the control of my clients.
716
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:08,785
The fact is they had erased them
long before this action was started.
717
00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:10,852
So our contention is that
they are not disclosable
718
00:42:10,928 --> 00:42:13,261
and should not be admissible.
719
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:16,895
Well, it's a fair
point, Mrs Mills.
720
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:20,302
Are we to assume that these documents
form the main plank of your case?
721
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:24,934
They are important supportive evidence
and show the defendant's culpability.
722
00:42:25,009 --> 00:42:28,275
One-Way was alerted to the
problems, the health problems,
723
00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:29,780
their product posed.
724
00:42:29,847 --> 00:42:34,649
Now, instead of accepting the
advice of independent scientists,
725
00:42:34,752 --> 00:42:39,156
they chose to erase both
the paper and electronic trails.
726
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:42,193
We now have a situation
where there is a floodgate
727
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:44,491
waiting to burst
open with claims,
728
00:42:44,595 --> 00:42:47,724
and a company, whose
sole economic imperative
729
00:42:47,832 --> 00:42:50,358
is to keep the
gates firmly closed.
730
00:42:51,702 --> 00:42:55,764
My Lord, my clients are an
internationally quoted company
731
00:42:55,873 --> 00:42:58,570
with a reputation both in
employment and social equity
732
00:42:58,676 --> 00:43:00,577
which they guard jealously.
733
00:43:00,678 --> 00:43:05,013
There is no question of their
attempting to foist a deceit on the public.
734
00:43:05,116 --> 00:43:07,950
To do so would be
counterproductive to their business
735
00:43:08,019 --> 00:43:10,386
and run counter to their ethos.
736
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:14,887
Profit does not equate
with social irresponsibility,
737
00:43:14,992 --> 00:43:17,188
as my learned friend
seems to be suggesting.
738
00:43:17,261 --> 00:43:20,060
The question a jury
might reasonably ask is
739
00:43:20,131 --> 00:43:23,465
why did the company
erase the emails?
740
00:43:24,502 --> 00:43:29,372
The reason is simply that if my clients
had to keep every electronic message,
741
00:43:29,474 --> 00:43:32,933
they would be required to maintain
unimaginable hordes of documents
742
00:43:33,010 --> 00:43:36,469
in an electronic
warehouse in cyberspace.
743
00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:39,417
It's not an unreasonable
argument, Mrs Mills.
744
00:43:39,517 --> 00:43:42,976
It wouldn't be unreasonable until
you consider the content of the emails
745
00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:44,488
and who they were from.
746
00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:48,424
Independent scientists who
One-Way employed to test their phones.
747
00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:51,725
Correspondence from whom
they were happy to retain
748
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:54,731
until they began
receiving negative findings
749
00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:57,411
which no longer supported their
contention that their phones were safe.
750
00:43:57,435 --> 00:43:59,529
If you look in your
bundle marked A, My Lord,
751
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:02,129
you will see a trail of emails
752
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,869
and supporting correspondence
from the early development
753
00:44:04,942 --> 00:44:08,310
of the ZP-9 phone, the
type Ms Hulsey used.
754
00:44:08,379 --> 00:44:11,508
On average there were
some 11 emails a day
755
00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:13,710
passing between the
company and the scientists,
756
00:44:13,784 --> 00:44:16,811
up until December 3, 2000,
757
00:44:16,888 --> 00:44:19,983
when they announced
their negative findings.
758
00:44:20,057 --> 00:44:23,357
The gap between December
4th and December 12th
759
00:44:23,427 --> 00:44:27,626
are the crucial missing emails
which spelt out the causal linkage
760
00:44:27,698 --> 00:44:30,964
between the phones and
the damaged brain cells.
761
00:44:31,068 --> 00:44:35,062
On the 13th of December,
the emails resumed,
762
00:44:35,139 --> 00:44:37,267
terminating their contract.
763
00:44:38,543 --> 00:44:40,808
You have a logical
explanation, Mrs Channing?
764
00:44:40,912 --> 00:44:44,349
I'm reliably informed by the
company that during that period
765
00:44:44,415 --> 00:44:47,214
they were being attacked
by internet viruses
766
00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:51,015
and that their network was
shut down for long periods.
767
00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:55,053
Then how do you account for
these emails that were retrieved?
768
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:59,597
We would argue there is no proof
they are our clients' documents.
769
00:44:59,664 --> 00:45:01,394
Yeah, all right,
770
00:45:01,465 --> 00:45:04,924
in which case you are right
to stoutly resist their inclusion.
771
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,369
I think the safest
way to proceed
772
00:45:07,471 --> 00:45:10,031
would be to call the expert
who retrieved these documents
773
00:45:10,107 --> 00:45:13,168
and find out whether
or not they are forgeries.
774
00:45:13,277 --> 00:45:16,406
Do I have the written
report of this expert?
775
00:45:16,514 --> 00:45:19,382
It’s in your bundle,
marked 6A, My Lord.
776
00:45:23,221 --> 00:45:25,656
Yes. Okay. Got it.
777
00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:27,622
And is the witness available?
778
00:45:30,294 --> 00:45:33,128
- He is, My Lord.
- My Lord,
779
00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:37,168
the admissibility or
inadmissibility of these documents
780
00:45:37,268 --> 00:45:40,761
does not depend on how some
spotty cybernerd retrieved them
781
00:45:40,871 --> 00:45:43,340
but whether they
are disclosable.
782
00:45:43,441 --> 00:45:46,468
They were not because
they did not exist.
783
00:45:47,311 --> 00:45:51,749
Only the spotty cybernerd
can tell us that, Mrs Channing.
784
00:45:51,816 --> 00:45:53,375
We'd better have him in.
785
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:59,619
Mr Arditti, could you look at the
report marked 6A in your bundle
786
00:45:59,690 --> 00:46:01,283
and tell us what it is?
787
00:46:02,693 --> 00:46:07,063
A report I compiled based on
recovered material to One-Way PLC.
788
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:09,691
Can you tell the court of
what that material consists?
789
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:13,602
Erased emails sent by One-Way
and some received by them.
790
00:46:13,704 --> 00:46:18,608
Mr Arditti, if emails are erased
how can you pick them up?
791
00:46:18,676 --> 00:46:20,611
Nothing is ever truly
erased, Your Honour.
792
00:46:20,678 --> 00:46:22,670
It's indelibly
printed on the ether.
793
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:25,249
Anyone can pick up
this material and read it?
794
00:46:25,316 --> 00:46:28,775
With the technical know-how,
sir, if they can reconstruct them.
795
00:46:29,053 --> 00:46:32,319
And you can clearly
identify their origin?
796
00:46:32,423 --> 00:46:34,517
Oh, yes, from their ISP ident.
797
00:46:36,227 --> 00:46:38,162
Yeah, but where do
they actually exist?
798
00:46:38,262 --> 00:46:40,891
Perhaps if I were to
reveal the information?
799
00:46:40,965 --> 00:46:42,194
Yeah.
800
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:48,171
Mr Arditti, how many lost or erased
emails have you or your firm recovered?
801
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,003
Thousands. It's what we do.
802
00:46:50,107 --> 00:46:52,167
In what circumstances
do you do this?
803
00:46:52,243 --> 00:46:55,736
Mostly material lost by
power cuts and viruses.
804
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,112
Sometimes people
hit the wrong button.
805
00:46:58,215 --> 00:47:01,083
In your expert
opinion, Mr Arditti,
806
00:47:01,185 --> 00:47:04,815
could you say whether the documents
deleted by One-Way and recovered by you
807
00:47:04,889 --> 00:47:06,687
had been deleted intentionally?
808
00:47:06,757 --> 00:47:10,956
My Lord, this witness cannot possibly
give an answer to such a question.
809
00:47:11,062 --> 00:47:13,531
He is an expert
witness, Mrs Channing.
810
00:47:13,597 --> 00:47:16,692
He isn't an expert
in mind-reading.
811
00:47:16,767 --> 00:47:20,033
He couldn't possibly know
the intentions of my clients.
812
00:47:20,137 --> 00:47:21,833
I'll rephrase my question.
813
00:47:21,939 --> 00:47:24,807
Is it possible that even
an inexperienced IT user
814
00:47:24,875 --> 00:47:28,971
could have erased nine separate
but related emails by mistake?
815
00:47:29,046 --> 00:47:31,914
No, not even by block erasement.
816
00:47:33,384 --> 00:47:38,084
My Lord, under Rule 31-7
of the Civil Procedure Rules,
817
00:47:38,155 --> 00:47:40,852
defendants are
under a duty to make
818
00:47:40,925 --> 00:47:45,363
a reasonable search for documents
which adversely affect their own case.
819
00:47:45,463 --> 00:47:47,489
It would seem
they didn't search.
820
00:47:47,565 --> 00:47:50,933
They couldn't, because
the emails had been erased.
821
00:47:51,635 --> 00:47:54,696
Mrs Channing, I'm sure
you've advised your clients
822
00:47:54,772 --> 00:47:57,970
that Section 450 of
the Companies Act 1985
823
00:47:58,042 --> 00:47:59,601
provides that a company officer
824
00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:02,806
who destroys, mutilates
or falsifies a document
825
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,215
affecting the company's affairs
may be liable to prosecution?
826
00:48:07,284 --> 00:48:09,276
The directors of One-Way PLC
827
00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:12,846
are conversant with the laws governing
companies and are not in breach of them.
828
00:48:12,923 --> 00:48:14,892
We would argue
in the alternative,
829
00:48:14,959 --> 00:48:18,987
were the documents deemed admissible,
as you seem determined they are.
830
00:48:19,096 --> 00:48:21,065
I'm determining no such thing.
831
00:48:21,132 --> 00:48:22,760
I would contend
there is no proof,
832
00:48:22,867 --> 00:48:25,393
they are or ever were
the company's documents.
833
00:48:25,503 --> 00:48:26,630
They have One-Way's logo
834
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:29,935
and bear the name of the
Marketing Director, Max Solveigh.
835
00:48:31,375 --> 00:48:33,241
Anyone could have
printed these documents.
836
00:48:33,344 --> 00:48:36,781
First we'd better establish if
these documents are authentic.
837
00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:41,983
Mr Arditti, can you trace these
documents back to the company?
838
00:48:42,052 --> 00:48:44,886
As if it had been a physical
letter on their stationery,
839
00:48:44,955 --> 00:48:48,323
using their old typewriters with the
director's signature at the end of it.
840
00:48:48,426 --> 00:48:51,692
Yes, but as Mrs Channing pointed out,
anybody could have sent such a document.
841
00:48:51,762 --> 00:48:55,096
If you compare these emails with those
sent by the research company earlier,
842
00:48:55,166 --> 00:48:58,159
you'll see the same phrasing,
the same use of jargon.
843
00:48:58,235 --> 00:49:01,728
Is Mr Arditti now
a language expert?
844
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:06,240
It might be useful, My Lord,
if we were to ask Mr Arditti
845
00:49:06,343 --> 00:49:08,175
how he came to
the missing emails?
846
00:49:08,245 --> 00:49:10,009
Yes, all right. Mr Arditti?
847
00:49:11,916 --> 00:49:14,681
We had asked the research
company, Whitten and Malle, for them.
848
00:49:14,785 --> 00:49:18,085
They did the testing for
One-Way on the ZP-9.
849
00:49:18,189 --> 00:49:22,320
They refused to help because it
was part of their confidentiality clause.
850
00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:25,555
But it was later sent to us by
Whitten and Malle as a ghost,
851
00:49:25,663 --> 00:49:29,293
mistakenly attached to their email
response to some innocuous enquiries.
852
00:49:29,366 --> 00:49:31,460
My Lord, this is more
and more ludicrous.
853
00:49:31,535 --> 00:49:34,505
I would ask that the court reject
these documents as inadmissible.
854
00:49:34,572 --> 00:49:38,976
No, I'm not inclined to without
further investigation of their source.
855
00:49:40,344 --> 00:49:43,405
First, I'm going to consider
them over an adjournment
856
00:49:43,481 --> 00:49:45,109
to see if they are
germane to the case.
857
00:49:45,216 --> 00:49:46,775
You would.
858
00:49:46,851 --> 00:49:48,183
All rise.
859
00:49:54,291 --> 00:49:57,955
- Well, we can see where this is going.
- I hope so, George, I do hope so.
860
00:49:58,062 --> 00:50:00,964
I daresay you'll decide
that in bed together.
861
00:50:01,065 --> 00:50:03,261
Oh, wouldn't that be nice?
862
00:50:12,676 --> 00:50:13,803
George.
863
00:50:13,878 --> 00:50:16,040
Ah. This is a surprise.
864
00:50:18,382 --> 00:50:20,613
Of course, I was hoping to
hear some of the argument.
865
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:23,051
The Deed already suspects
some sort of government collusion
866
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,179
to protect my client.
867
00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:28,124
The presence of the Secretary of
State in court would convince him.
868
00:50:28,225 --> 00:50:29,318
Neil.
869
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,692
- Good to see you.
- Max, how are you?
870
00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:33,740
At this rate I'm going to
be the marketing director
871
00:50:33,764 --> 00:50:35,892
of an insolvent mobile
phone company.
872
00:50:35,966 --> 00:50:37,935
Our shares slipped
another two points today.
873
00:50:38,002 --> 00:50:39,368
Oh, it will stop.
874
00:50:40,237 --> 00:50:41,432
I promise you.
875
00:50:42,339 --> 00:50:46,435
Mrs Cooper, is it possible to
have a word with the judge?
876
00:50:46,544 --> 00:50:49,343
As a failed litigant, I think
you know better, Sergeant.
877
00:50:49,413 --> 00:50:50,972
It's not about my case.
878
00:50:52,016 --> 00:50:54,315
Well, I wouldn't
hold your breath.
879
00:50:54,919 --> 00:50:57,115
Mrs Mills, might we have a word?
880
00:50:57,221 --> 00:50:59,918
If you're brief, Mr James.
I have a tuba lesson.
881
00:51:00,624 --> 00:51:02,616
We wondered if we
might be of any assistance
882
00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:05,492
over your appearance before
the Disciplinary Tribunal?
883
00:51:05,563 --> 00:51:08,192
Why would you? It came from
your department in the beginning.
884
00:51:08,299 --> 00:51:10,461
We were compelled
to act on a complaint.
885
00:51:10,534 --> 00:51:12,025
Then make it go away.
886
00:51:13,304 --> 00:51:16,570
That is almost entirely in
the gift of Mr Justice Deed.
887
00:51:19,009 --> 00:51:20,944
Shall we walk you to your car?
888
00:51:27,885 --> 00:51:31,617
The Brooklands case isn't
coming back this afternoon, Judge.
889
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,619
Mr Brooklands had a fit.
890
00:51:34,692 --> 00:51:38,185
I thought he was on so many
drugs he could barely move.
891
00:51:40,497 --> 00:51:42,329
Is Mrs Mills going to
win the argument, Judge?
892
00:51:42,399 --> 00:51:43,765
No, I don't think so, Coop.
893
00:51:43,867 --> 00:51:46,200
Not if the emails
were obtained illegally.
894
00:51:46,303 --> 00:51:49,569
Oh, dear, that's more
bad news for her.
895
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,973
I heard Mr Justice Everard
896
00:51:52,042 --> 00:51:54,841
is presiding at her
Disciplinary Tribunal hearing.
897
00:51:56,046 --> 00:51:57,878
Where'd you hear that?
898
00:51:58,649 --> 00:52:00,777
Mr Justice Everard's clerk.
899
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,754
You could get us
out of this, you know.
900
00:52:08,258 --> 00:52:10,937
The circuit administrator implied
that if you dropped the cell phone case
901
00:52:10,961 --> 00:52:13,294
my Disciplinary
Tribunal would vanish.
902
00:52:13,364 --> 00:52:14,798
Now, that is illegal.
903
00:52:14,898 --> 00:52:17,094
I'll have him bounced
right out of the system.
904
00:52:17,167 --> 00:52:18,726
It's my word against his.
905
00:52:18,802 --> 00:52:20,914
And who'd believe me,
especially if I lose the hearing?
906
00:52:20,938 --> 00:52:23,908
Jo, I told you I'd give
evidence at the Tribunal.
907
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:26,739
And what will you say?
That I wasn't in your bed?
908
00:52:27,544 --> 00:52:28,544
If necessary.
909
00:52:28,612 --> 00:52:31,446
Great, then they'll produce
the photos and prove you a liar.
910
00:52:31,515 --> 00:52:33,093
Don't even know
what's in the photos yet.
911
00:52:33,117 --> 00:52:35,609
George says
they're of us in bed.
912
00:52:37,087 --> 00:52:40,216
Who's doing the hearing
for you? Is he any good?
913
00:52:41,325 --> 00:52:43,089
Eleven months this
has been going on.
914
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,652
- Finally, you ask.
- Si...
915
00:52:45,729 --> 00:52:47,493
What's his name?
Simon Norwalk, isn't it?
916
00:52:47,564 --> 00:52:49,658
He's got a good reputation.
917
00:52:49,733 --> 00:52:51,998
Providing he gives
it full attention.
918
00:52:52,102 --> 00:52:53,313
If you are not going
to stop this hearing
919
00:52:53,337 --> 00:52:54,948
the less I have to do
with you at the moment...
920
00:52:54,972 --> 00:52:56,883
What do you want me to do?
Make a deal with Ian Rochester?
921
00:52:56,907 --> 00:52:58,170
Give the case to Legover?
922
00:52:58,242 --> 00:53:00,074
Fine, I'll make it all go away.
923
00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:02,612
I don't know!
924
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,091
I'm not sure that's the best thing
for Diana Hulsey and her son.
925
00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:07,277
No, it's best for
you, though, isn't it?
926
00:53:07,384 --> 00:53:09,114
You think that's
taking responsibility?
927
00:53:09,219 --> 00:53:11,654
Oh, I see, that's what
it's all about, is it?
928
00:53:11,722 --> 00:53:14,021
Fine, I'll resign, and
we'll get married.
929
00:53:14,091 --> 00:53:16,526
Oh, grow up, John!
Right now I feel as if
930
00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:19,627
I am drowning and everything that
you do is just another stone in my pocket.
931
00:53:19,663 --> 00:53:23,191
Yeah, go on, walk out.
No, don't! Don't do that.
932
00:53:23,734 --> 00:53:24,963
Stop.
933
00:53:26,303 --> 00:53:29,364
Let's think about this logically,
there's bound to be a solution.
934
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,342
Think about your
dinner. The oil's burning.
935
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:50,922
Judge, my husband James
Brooklands, he's not faking it.
936
00:53:51,028 --> 00:53:52,690
Why do you assume I think he is?
937
00:53:52,763 --> 00:53:53,856
Well, I thought that...
938
00:53:53,931 --> 00:53:56,924
Really, you mustn't approach
me like this, Mrs Brooklands.
939
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,732
He's such a decent man,
he's kind and generous.
940
00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:05,773
Members of the jury,
941
00:54:05,843 --> 00:54:08,972
this a trial unlike any
you've come across before
942
00:54:09,046 --> 00:54:11,208
or are likely to again.
943
00:54:11,849 --> 00:54:17,288
You are not trying the defendant
as to his being guilty or not guilty.
944
00:54:18,322 --> 00:54:21,850
You are being asked to decide
whether he is capable of understanding
945
00:54:21,925 --> 00:54:23,826
what is unfolding before him.
946
00:54:24,695 --> 00:54:28,462
Our contention is that he is
incapable of understanding
947
00:54:28,532 --> 00:54:31,001
and therefore should
not be in the dock.
948
00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:34,765
He should, as I hope you'll
agree after hearing evidence
949
00:54:34,838 --> 00:54:37,933
from our eminent psychiatrists,
950
00:54:38,008 --> 00:54:40,477
be in hospital
receiving treatment.
951
00:54:41,378 --> 00:54:47,648
Dr Shapiro, are you professor of
psychiatry, King's College, London,
952
00:54:47,718 --> 00:54:50,449
and author of Uncognitive Mind?
953
00:54:51,121 --> 00:54:52,885
Yes, I am.
954
00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:56,757
Have you examined the
defendant, James Brooklands?
955
00:54:56,860 --> 00:54:59,921
Yes, at length over
the past four months.
956
00:54:59,997 --> 00:55:02,262
Has he shown any
change in that period?
957
00:55:02,332 --> 00:55:05,393
He has. Unfortunately,
none for the better.
958
00:55:05,502 --> 00:55:07,801
He has withdrawn
into a catatonic state
959
00:55:07,905 --> 00:55:10,704
where he has no
recognition of what is present
960
00:55:10,774 --> 00:55:11,935
and what is past.
961
00:55:12,009 --> 00:55:14,535
Can he function in this state?
962
00:55:14,611 --> 00:55:17,581
Tie his shoelaces,
shave, clean his teeth?
963
00:55:17,648 --> 00:55:19,583
He's not unconscious.
964
00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:24,054
Catatonic states merely cut off
conscious recognition or response.
965
00:55:24,121 --> 00:55:28,422
If you saw him in the
street and called, "James..."
966
00:55:32,062 --> 00:55:34,258
He wouldn't respond.
967
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:35,560
I see.
968
00:55:37,467 --> 00:55:41,302
Dr Shapiro, if the defendant
were found guilty as charged
969
00:55:41,371 --> 00:55:43,033
and sent to prison,
970
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:46,440
what in your opinion
would be his reaction?
971
00:55:46,543 --> 00:55:49,411
Because of the absence
of cognitive powers,
972
00:55:49,479 --> 00:55:52,210
it would make no difference
to his sense of well-being
973
00:55:52,282 --> 00:55:56,777
whether he was given a long prison
sentence or a complete discharge.
974
00:56:04,728 --> 00:56:06,356
Mr Gaydon?
975
00:56:08,999 --> 00:56:12,163
Could a patient fake
this illness, Doctor?
976
00:56:12,236 --> 00:56:15,104
- I've never seen it faked.
- Will he recover, Doctor?
977
00:56:15,172 --> 00:56:17,732
If I may, My Lord, please.
978
00:56:18,342 --> 00:56:23,679
Dr Shapiro, did you
write a paper in 1995
979
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:26,682
positing that any
number of mental patients
980
00:56:26,783 --> 00:56:28,513
were at any given time
981
00:56:28,619 --> 00:56:30,520
faking their illnesses?
982
00:56:30,621 --> 00:56:32,715
I don't think so.
983
00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:38,019
Is that a paper written by you?
984
00:56:38,095 --> 00:56:40,587
Are you exhibiting
this, Mr Gaydon?
985
00:56:40,697 --> 00:56:42,962
I will be, My Lord.
986
00:56:46,103 --> 00:56:50,336
That is my paper. I have
to confess to have been
987
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:54,606
heavily influenced at the time by the
then professor of forensic psychiatry
988
00:56:54,678 --> 00:56:57,045
at Birmingham University.
989
00:56:57,147 --> 00:56:59,878
Like him, have you
known offenders
990
00:56:59,983 --> 00:57:02,475
who, because they've
been declared mentally ill,
991
00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:05,886
have been allowed to shuffle
away from the Crown Courts?
992
00:57:05,956 --> 00:57:10,155
Then to be released from the
mental hospital a few months later
993
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,320
completely cured and free?
994
00:57:12,396 --> 00:57:15,332
Not with a catatonic condition.
995
00:57:18,135 --> 00:57:22,903
When was Mr Brooklands last able
to give his defence team instruction?
996
00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:26,774
He was barely able to instruct them
when I was first asked to examine him.
997
00:57:26,843 --> 00:57:31,076
But he was, to all intents and
purposes, instructing his defence?
998
00:57:31,181 --> 00:57:34,913
I doubt it. He can barely
conduct a coherent conversation.
999
00:57:35,419 --> 00:57:36,512
Mmm.
1000
00:57:37,321 --> 00:57:40,018
Yet less than five weeks ago
1001
00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:44,255
he wrote a cheque in part
payment of defence expenses.
1002
00:57:44,328 --> 00:57:45,489
How could he do that, Doctor?
1003
00:57:45,562 --> 00:57:47,895
He can still write his name.
1004
00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:51,094
He doesn't know
what he's writing.
1005
00:57:51,168 --> 00:57:55,230
Then it's fortunate for the defence
team that they put his chequebook
1006
00:57:55,339 --> 00:57:58,332
duly filled in with all
the details in front of him.
1007
00:57:58,408 --> 00:58:02,175
Would you confine yourself
to questions, Mr Gaydon?
1008
00:58:02,245 --> 00:58:06,706
I do apologise, My Lord. I
have no further questions.
1009
00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:09,286
Mr Petros, do you
want to come back?
1010
00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:13,556
Dr Shapiro, was there any
process of cognitive treatment
1011
00:58:13,657 --> 00:58:17,025
that Mr Brooklands underwent
during the time you've been seeing him?
1012
00:58:17,094 --> 00:58:21,930
Yes, of course. He was encouraged
to partake in familiar functions.
1013
00:58:21,999 --> 00:58:25,197
Was signing a cheque
one of these functions?
1014
00:58:25,302 --> 00:58:28,602
Yes, it was part of his
cognitive behaviour therapy.
1015
00:58:31,942 --> 00:58:34,673
What is your prognosis
for Mr Brooklands?
1016
00:58:35,746 --> 00:58:38,773
It is hoped that with sustained
cognitive behaviour therapy
1017
00:58:38,849 --> 00:58:40,715
he will recover
some recognition.
1018
00:58:40,817 --> 00:58:45,414
In what sort of time frame
might you expect a result?
1019
00:58:45,489 --> 00:58:50,553
Perhaps in two or three
years. It's hard to quantify.
1020
00:58:50,660 --> 00:58:52,595
It's not likely to
happen suddenly?
1021
00:58:52,696 --> 00:58:55,393
I've never known
patients to recover quickly.
1022
00:58:56,466 --> 00:58:59,561
Is this sort of treatment
available through the NHS?
1023
00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:02,629
Mr Brooklands is
being treated privately.
1024
00:59:02,739 --> 00:59:05,208
Oh, I see. Another cheque?
1025
00:59:06,276 --> 00:59:09,440
There is treatment available
through state medicine
1026
00:59:09,546 --> 00:59:13,483
but too many psychiatrists have
jumped on cognitive behaviour therapy
1027
00:59:13,583 --> 00:59:18,248
because it's inexpensive, but
they don't employ it properly.
1028
00:59:18,321 --> 00:59:22,088
Would it be injurious
to Mr Brooklands
1029
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,357
if he were to go
into the witness box?
1030
00:59:25,462 --> 00:59:28,193
He simply wouldn't
know why he's there.
1031
00:59:28,298 --> 00:59:29,732
I see.
1032
00:59:30,767 --> 00:59:34,795
All right, let us assume,
just assume for the moment,
1033
00:59:34,905 --> 00:59:38,740
that it was Mr Brooklands
who brought about the deaths
1034
00:59:38,809 --> 00:59:41,142
of this young mother
and her two children
1035
00:59:41,211 --> 00:59:43,373
and then fled the scene.
1036
00:59:43,447 --> 00:59:46,975
That the terrible regret
that he then suffered
1037
00:59:47,050 --> 00:59:50,214
caused him to lapse
into this catatonic state.
1038
00:59:51,088 --> 00:59:52,750
And then two or
three years later
1039
00:59:52,856 --> 00:59:55,519
he emerges from the
psychiatric hospital,
1040
00:59:55,625 --> 00:59:58,686
your treatment having
been successful.
1041
00:59:59,863 --> 01:00:03,322
What is it then that would
prevent him from lapsing back
1042
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,164
into this catatonic state
1043
01:00:05,235 --> 01:00:08,171
when he's faced with the
prospect of standing trial?
1044
01:00:08,238 --> 01:00:12,175
Part of the treatment is to bring
about self-awareness in the patient.
1045
01:00:12,242 --> 01:00:15,610
The idea is to get him to
face all that he's escaping from.
1046
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:16,738
Yes, yes, yes, I see,
1047
01:00:16,813 --> 01:00:20,807
but in the meanwhile he's
a risk to himself and others.
1048
01:00:20,884 --> 01:00:23,979
That is why he's in a
psychiatric hospital, My Lord.
1049
01:00:24,054 --> 01:00:28,924
Well, seems eminently sensible.
1050
01:00:30,427 --> 01:00:36,663
So I think for his own safety
and in view of the public outrage,
1051
01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:38,793
under the Mental Health Act,
1052
01:00:38,902 --> 01:00:42,395
perhaps I should commit
Mr Brooklands to Broadmoor.
1053
01:00:42,506 --> 01:00:43,769
No, no.
1054
01:00:46,042 --> 01:00:47,567
You can't, I'm mentally ill.
1055
01:00:47,644 --> 01:00:48,988
My Lord, it's not
a proper response.
1056
01:00:49,012 --> 01:00:51,481
Well, of course, you're
quite right, Mr Petros, it isn't.
1057
01:00:51,581 --> 01:00:53,311
Your client doesn't
seem to think so either.
1058
01:00:53,416 --> 01:00:57,012
Patients quite often have such
moments of lucidity, My Lord.
1059
01:00:57,087 --> 01:00:59,352
Your words, Doctor, not mine.
1060
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,755
I think I'm going to
take a short break.
1061
01:01:05,862 --> 01:01:09,765
Members of the jury, why don't you
go and get yourselves a cup of coffee.
1062
01:01:12,569 --> 01:01:15,004
I wish to see
counsel in chambers.
1063
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,079
If you tell me, as counsel, that
you had no part in this conspiracy
1064
01:02:01,184 --> 01:02:02,516
to deceive the court...
1065
01:02:02,619 --> 01:02:05,020
- Judge.
- Mr Petros.
1066
01:02:06,289 --> 01:02:09,054
If as Queen's Counsel, you
tell me that you're blameless
1067
01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:12,687
then I must believe you
and there the matter will end,
1068
01:02:12,762 --> 01:02:16,164
provided we move swiftly
to the trial on the indictment.
1069
01:02:16,266 --> 01:02:19,031
My Lord, I'm guided entirely
by the psychiatric team.
1070
01:02:19,135 --> 01:02:22,162
I'm convinced the defendant
followed every word that went on
1071
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:23,935
and so is this jury.
1072
01:02:24,007 --> 01:02:25,999
Now, we can continue
and Mr Gaydon
1073
01:02:26,076 --> 01:02:29,478
can bring in expert witnesses
to challenge the highly paid team
1074
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:31,810
the defence has amassed.
1075
01:02:32,282 --> 01:02:35,377
Or you can take instruction
from your perfectly lucid client,
1076
01:02:35,452 --> 01:02:39,822
we'll swear another jury and
proceed to trial on the indictment.
1077
01:02:43,093 --> 01:02:46,723
I'm aware of no conspiracy
to deceive the court.
1078
01:02:46,796 --> 01:02:47,957
Fine.
1079
01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:53,836
I'll talk to the instructing solicitor
and seek instructions from the client.
1080
01:02:53,937 --> 01:02:55,166
Good.
1081
01:03:04,547 --> 01:03:07,073
It doesn't matter that you
haven't been called upon
1082
01:03:07,183 --> 01:03:09,311
to deliberate in this instance.
1083
01:03:09,419 --> 01:03:13,880
Mr Brooklands' return to
lucidity has been accepted
1084
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:16,358
by his lawyers as permanent.
1085
01:03:16,459 --> 01:03:20,191
So if you will go with the
jury bailiff for now. Thank you.
1086
01:03:25,435 --> 01:03:28,098
Mr Gaydon, I assume the
prosecution is ready to try the charge
1087
01:03:28,171 --> 01:03:29,434
on the indictment?
1088
01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:31,098
Yes, My Lord, we are.
1089
01:03:31,174 --> 01:03:34,042
With your leave, My Lord, in
light of the changed circumstances,
1090
01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:36,010
might we have an adjournment?
1091
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,913
I don't really want this
to drag on. How long?
1092
01:03:39,015 --> 01:03:40,677
Two weeks would be sufficient.
1093
01:03:40,784 --> 01:03:42,309
Mr Harrison?
1094
01:03:42,419 --> 01:03:47,483
Three weeks would be more
convenient, My Lord. The 29th?
1095
01:03:47,557 --> 01:03:50,152
Yes, all right, 29th it is.
1096
01:03:50,260 --> 01:03:54,391
In the meanwhile, Mr Gaydon, the
CPS might reconsider the charge.
1097
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:57,865
Causing death by dangerous
driving might more reasonably be
1098
01:03:57,934 --> 01:04:01,132
ratcheted up to manslaughter
through gross negligence.
1099
01:04:01,204 --> 01:04:04,231
My Lord, that seems hardly
fair to my client at this late stage.
1100
01:04:04,341 --> 01:04:06,606
And how fair would it seem
to the deceased's family
1101
01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:09,475
or to the general public, if
in the light of Mr Brooklands
1102
01:04:09,579 --> 01:04:13,243
being found guilty, I could
only sentence him to 10 years?
1103
01:04:13,316 --> 01:04:16,081
Now, if there is sufficient
evidence it seems reasonable that
1104
01:04:16,186 --> 01:04:18,712
a graver charge be
put on the indictment.
1105
01:04:18,822 --> 01:04:21,087
Then might the same
bail terms be kept?
1106
01:04:21,157 --> 01:04:24,525
Mr Brooklands is currently in
hospital receiving treatment.
1107
01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:27,689
In the changed circumstances,
hospital isn't appropriate.
1108
01:04:27,764 --> 01:04:29,665
He will be remanded in custody.
1109
01:04:29,733 --> 01:04:32,567
I think there is a very
real risk that he'll abscond,
1110
01:04:32,635 --> 01:04:34,228
based on what I've seen today.
1111
01:04:34,337 --> 01:04:36,602
No, Alexander,
don't let this happen.
1112
01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:38,265
He can't do this to me.
1113
01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:42,836
Mr Brooklands, this
miraculous recovery
1114
01:04:42,946 --> 01:04:47,077
is enough to make
true believers of us all.
1115
01:04:47,183 --> 01:04:49,379
Now, I'm encouraged
that you now seem fit
1116
01:04:49,452 --> 01:04:51,444
to face up to your
responsibilities.
1117
01:04:51,521 --> 01:04:55,014
This is a trait often lacking in
men who appear before me.
1118
01:04:55,091 --> 01:04:57,356
- Take him down.
- Alexander, this is not fair.
1119
01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:00,191
Do something!
Clive, call someone!
1120
01:05:05,535 --> 01:05:09,802
Coop, get hold of Simon
Norwalk for me, would you, please?
1121
01:05:09,906 --> 01:05:12,171
He's Mrs Mills' barrister.
1122
01:05:12,242 --> 01:05:13,886
I'd like to meet with
him as soon as possible.
1123
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:14,910
Yeah.
1124
01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:20,481
Thank you for fitting me
in at such short notice.
1125
01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:24,042
Presumably you didn't
discuss this with Mrs Mills.
1126
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,521
- No.
- She didn't want you called.
1127
01:05:28,091 --> 01:05:33,155
It is necessary I point out
the risk you run, Sir John,
1128
01:05:33,263 --> 01:05:36,131
in becoming a
witness for Mrs Mills.
1129
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:37,997
What risk is that, Mr Norwalk?
1130
01:05:38,101 --> 01:05:41,503
If she were to be found guilty
of professional misconduct,
1131
01:05:41,571 --> 01:05:43,767
it might damage your reputation.
1132
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,538
Equally if I fail to take
responsibility for my part.
1133
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:49,579
I have to be frank, sir.
1134
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,583
Did you sleep with Mrs Mills?
1135
01:05:54,851 --> 01:05:56,217
No.
1136
01:05:57,454 --> 01:06:00,856
There appears to be
evidence to the contrary.
1137
01:06:01,424 --> 01:06:05,293
Photographs taken by some
peeping Tom. What's in it?
1138
01:06:05,361 --> 01:06:06,795
I'm under a strict embargo
1139
01:06:06,896 --> 01:06:10,492
not to discuss disclosed
documents with other witnesses.
1140
01:06:13,169 --> 01:06:17,607
Jo got paralytic,
I put her to bed.
1141
01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:19,642
In your bed, Judge?
1142
01:06:19,742 --> 01:06:24,009
Have you any idea how judges'
lodgings work, Mr Norwalk?
1143
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,413
It's all about seniority.
1144
01:06:26,483 --> 01:06:29,385
The judge is practically
the sovereign where he sits.
1145
01:06:29,452 --> 01:06:32,286
If he has a guest, then that
guest has the next best room
1146
01:06:32,355 --> 01:06:34,347
and everybody else
gets pushed down one.
1147
01:06:34,457 --> 01:06:39,521
No way was I going to bounce
everybody out of bed at 2 a.m.
1148
01:06:39,596 --> 01:06:42,122
Mrs Mills got put into my room.
1149
01:06:43,566 --> 01:06:45,501
The chairman of the
Tribunal is bound to ask,
1150
01:06:45,568 --> 01:06:48,732
even if counsel for
the committee doesn't,
1151
01:06:49,506 --> 01:06:54,570
did you sleep in the
same bed with Mrs Mills?
1152
01:06:55,445 --> 01:06:58,677
I certainly didn't
sleep in a chair.
1153
01:07:00,884 --> 01:07:03,683
The photos are of
you two in bed, sir.
1154
01:07:05,121 --> 01:07:08,091
The question we have to
consider is this, Mr Norwalk.
1155
01:07:08,157 --> 01:07:13,152
Would they dare not
believe a High Court judge?
1156
01:07:20,937 --> 01:07:22,769
Got an email from
Sergeant Bridges.
1157
01:07:22,839 --> 01:07:25,638
Oh, he's very persistent.
1158
01:07:25,742 --> 01:07:28,007
This is got some information
about the cell phone case.
1159
01:07:28,077 --> 01:07:29,943
He wants to meet up with me.
1160
01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:34,178
Well, do you think you
should? I mean, not on your own.
1161
01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:36,651
Maybe I'd better take
Row Colemore with me.
1162
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,450
Yeah, I think that
might be best, Judge.
1163
01:07:43,293 --> 01:07:46,991
- Do you think he's going to turn up?
- Because of you?
1164
01:07:49,098 --> 01:07:52,000
All we could find out about the
bomb hoaxer who cleared the court
1165
01:07:52,101 --> 01:07:53,899
was that the call was
made from a public box
1166
01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:56,530
outside the LCD
building in Victoria Street.
1167
01:07:56,606 --> 01:07:58,837
You might be right. It
could have been to stop you.
1168
01:07:58,942 --> 01:08:01,070
Oh, I hope not.
1169
01:08:01,177 --> 01:08:03,942
John, you're not backing off now
we've gone through all this trouble.
1170
01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:05,811
Bomb hoaxes are bad news.
1171
01:08:05,882 --> 01:08:09,319
I just can't countenance an officer
of the court being responsible.
1172
01:08:09,419 --> 01:08:10,853
Mr Justice Deed?
1173
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,616
Sergeant Bridges.
1174
01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:14,447
You know who I am?
1175
01:08:14,524 --> 01:08:17,551
I do. Deputy Assistant
Commissioner Colemore.
1176
01:08:17,660 --> 01:08:20,152
How did you obtain a highly
confidential email address?
1177
01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:23,461
Row, let's see what
Mr Bridges has to say.
1178
01:08:36,746 --> 01:08:40,410
If it's authentic, it's
pretty damning evidence.
1179
01:08:40,483 --> 01:08:42,577
How did you get this?
1180
01:08:42,652 --> 01:08:44,712
I hacked into the
One-Way computer system.
1181
01:08:44,821 --> 01:08:48,121
- In breach of the Data Protection Act.
- I'm not an interested party.
1182
01:08:48,224 --> 01:08:50,955
You're here, Sergeant. You've
been following the case in court.
1183
01:08:51,060 --> 01:08:53,372
I wanted you to see this, My
Lord, before you gave a ruling
1184
01:08:53,396 --> 01:08:55,262
on the on the
inadmissibility of the emails.
1185
01:08:55,331 --> 01:08:58,358
This email is inadmissible
because of how you obtained it.
1186
01:08:58,434 --> 01:09:00,232
I know that, My Lord.
1187
01:09:02,405 --> 01:09:04,806
Was there anything else there?
1188
01:09:04,874 --> 01:09:08,606
If I'd found it, that, too,
would be inadmissible.
1189
01:09:13,416 --> 01:09:15,044
Thanks, Sergeant.
1190
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:22,459
Seems like a good man, Row.
1191
01:09:22,525 --> 01:09:24,289
The police should hang onto him.
1192
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,852
He's quitting his job
on health grounds.
1193
01:09:26,929 --> 01:09:29,660
Perhaps he needs
appreciating more.
1194
01:09:38,975 --> 01:09:41,342
My apologies for the late start.
1195
01:09:42,445 --> 01:09:45,882
- Ms Hulsey, how are you today?
- Fine, thank you.
1196
01:09:45,982 --> 01:09:46,982
Good.
1197
01:09:48,918 --> 01:09:52,946
Before I give my ruling on the
admissibility of the erased emails,
1198
01:09:53,056 --> 01:09:56,322
I want some further information
on how they were obtained.
1199
01:09:56,426 --> 01:10:00,557
Mr Arditti, would you mind going
back to the witness box, please?
1200
01:10:06,803 --> 01:10:08,965
Remember, you
are still under oath.
1201
01:10:10,173 --> 01:10:16,943
Now, Mr Arditti, you said you were
accidentally sent erased emails.
1202
01:10:17,613 --> 01:10:23,177
Yes? So, how did you proceed
to recover further emails?
1203
01:10:23,252 --> 01:10:25,721
I mean, where were they exactly?
1204
01:10:25,822 --> 01:10:27,882
Think carefully
before you answer.
1205
01:10:28,691 --> 01:10:31,024
With the internet
service provider, My Lord.
1206
01:10:31,094 --> 01:10:35,361
Yes. So, presumably you have
an arrangement with someone there
1207
01:10:35,465 --> 01:10:38,230
who allows you
access to their dustbins?
1208
01:10:39,335 --> 01:10:40,701
You searched their records
1209
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:43,763
in contravention of
the Data Protection Act.
1210
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,468
Well, it's not quite
like that, My Lord.
1211
01:10:45,575 --> 01:10:46,975
Oh, isn't it?
1212
01:10:47,977 --> 01:10:50,003
Go on, you can sit down.
1213
01:10:57,053 --> 01:10:59,750
- Yes, Mrs Channing.
- My Lord, I would like to argue
1214
01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:02,519
that this erased email
evidence be omitted
1215
01:11:02,625 --> 01:11:05,459
on account of how it was
obtained by illegal means.
1216
01:11:05,528 --> 01:11:07,087
I would refer Your Lordship
1217
01:11:07,163 --> 01:11:12,101
to the Attorney Generals
Reference number 3 of 1999.
1218
01:11:12,168 --> 01:11:15,366
You will see that in a case where
the police had illegally retained DNA
1219
01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:17,634
on a suspect, the House
of Lords said the fact
1220
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:20,471
that the evidence had
been illegally acquired
1221
01:11:20,576 --> 01:11:24,377
could be a strong factor in
persuading a trial judge to exclude it.
1222
01:11:24,447 --> 01:11:27,042
Yes, yes, yes, but the law
was amended by Section 82
1223
01:11:27,116 --> 01:11:29,483
of the Criminal Justice
and Police Act 2001,
1224
01:11:29,585 --> 01:11:32,749
and in any event that's all
criminal law and this is a civil case.
1225
01:11:32,855 --> 01:11:35,324
In that case, My Lord, I would
ask you to exclude the evidence
1226
01:11:35,424 --> 01:11:38,451
under the standard set by
the Civil Procedure Rules.
1227
01:11:38,528 --> 01:11:40,292
There was criminal intent.
1228
01:11:40,363 --> 01:11:44,061
The emails, which by my learned
friend's own admission were erased,
1229
01:11:44,133 --> 01:11:47,626
indicate that her clients knowingly
infringed the Companies Act.
1230
01:11:47,737 --> 01:11:49,968
It's punishable
by a £10,000 fine
1231
01:11:50,039 --> 01:11:52,531
or six months in prison
on each count, My Lord.
1232
01:11:52,608 --> 01:11:53,940
This is ridiculous.
1233
01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:57,970
The law sometimes is, Mrs
Channing. Here, however, it's not.
1234
01:11:59,582 --> 01:12:01,107
Before I rule
1235
01:12:02,318 --> 01:12:07,222
I want to see what else there is that
may or may not have been erased.
1236
01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:10,454
My Lord, you have heard ample
argument to omit this evidence.
1237
01:12:10,526 --> 01:12:13,086
- I implore you to do so.
- No.
1238
01:12:13,596 --> 01:12:17,328
I'm gonna make an order for the
claimant's legal team to make a search
1239
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,735
of the computer records of
One-Way PLC, Whitten and Malle
1240
01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:26,174
and their respective internet
service providers if they so wish.
1241
01:12:26,242 --> 01:12:28,939
They must return here with
their findings next Monday.
1242
01:12:29,011 --> 01:12:32,072
I'm obliged, My Lord, but
two days is so very little time.
1243
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:35,413
They can work Saturday and Sunday,
Mrs Mills, and they better get started.
1244
01:12:35,484 --> 01:12:37,510
All rise.
1245
01:12:42,325 --> 01:12:44,760
Well, my only hope is that
they manage to drag him down
1246
01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:45,954
along with you tomorrow.
1247
01:12:46,062 --> 01:12:48,293
Who are they, George?
1248
01:12:49,098 --> 01:12:50,589
What does this mean, George?
1249
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,795
It means that if you're hiding
anything, Max, they'll find it.
1250
01:12:58,608 --> 01:13:01,874
Off the record, John, the
Lord Chancellor has concerns
1251
01:13:01,978 --> 01:13:05,915
over the possibility of the mobile
phone case getting to a full hearing.
1252
01:13:06,649 --> 01:13:09,414
Has he seen the evidence,
sir? Because I haven't.
1253
01:13:09,485 --> 01:13:12,421
He was approached by
another cabinet minister
1254
01:13:12,488 --> 01:13:15,515
about the financial difficulties
the company could get into.
1255
01:13:15,625 --> 01:13:17,457
Neil Haughton, eh?
1256
01:13:17,927 --> 01:13:21,557
He feels it incumbent upon
him to try to find a solution.
1257
01:13:22,531 --> 01:13:24,397
And what's he suggesting, then?
1258
01:13:24,500 --> 01:13:28,096
Nothing that might benefit the
claimant, not with my ex-wife involved.
1259
01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:30,196
He suggested an
out-of-court settlement.
1260
01:13:30,306 --> 01:13:33,003
Does he have influence with
One-Way PLC? Sit down, Ian.
1261
01:13:33,075 --> 01:13:34,407
Thank you.
1262
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:39,041
Mimi, get off! You're not supposed
to be on the chairs. Come on.
1263
01:13:39,115 --> 01:13:41,175
- May I?
- Please.
1264
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:43,219
Off you get.
1265
01:13:49,292 --> 01:13:53,889
The mobile phone company will
defend their position if they have to.
1266
01:13:54,597 --> 01:13:57,931
The damage that does to
the company and the country...
1267
01:13:58,734 --> 01:14:02,535
They do generate £10
to 15 billion of income,
1268
01:14:02,605 --> 01:14:05,074
all of which comes
back to Britain, John.
1269
01:14:05,174 --> 01:14:06,870
In this worsening
economic climate
1270
01:14:06,976 --> 01:14:09,445
that is something any
government must take notice of.
1271
01:14:09,545 --> 01:14:12,879
Pursuit of a fair out-of-court
settlement is entirely proper.
1272
01:14:13,416 --> 01:14:15,715
But you're talking
to the wrong person.
1273
01:14:17,620 --> 01:14:21,489
The defendants' legal
representatives are concerned
1274
01:14:21,557 --> 01:14:23,549
you are encouraging,
1275
01:14:23,759 --> 01:14:25,785
at the claimant's request,
1276
01:14:25,962 --> 01:14:27,487
a public trial.
1277
01:14:29,999 --> 01:14:34,960
Well, I do see this as a
very important test case.
1278
01:14:35,037 --> 01:14:37,233
This is perverse.
1279
01:14:37,340 --> 01:14:41,539
Thousands of livelihoods are dependent
upon the viability of this company.
1280
01:14:41,610 --> 01:14:44,876
And the thousands, possibly, who
might be damaged by the phones?
1281
01:14:44,981 --> 01:14:46,101
There's no evidence of that.
1282
01:14:46,182 --> 01:14:48,463
There never is when there are
vast sums of money involved.
1283
01:14:48,517 --> 01:14:52,887
Did you know in the 1700s
that gin was sold by pharmacists
1284
01:14:52,955 --> 01:14:54,423
as a health drink for women?
1285
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:55,890
The government of the day
1286
01:14:55,958 --> 01:14:59,122
tacitly endorsed an
8-million gallon consumption.
1287
01:14:59,195 --> 01:15:02,563
Fortunately the government
today show more concern.
1288
01:15:02,665 --> 01:15:07,501
Yes, over 100,000 people were killed
by alcohol in the UK alone last year.
1289
01:15:09,372 --> 01:15:12,342
Jo Mills isn't a fool, Ian.
1290
01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:16,937
If the settlement is honourable,
she'll advise the claimant to accept it.
1291
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:18,606
- Mmm.
- Mmm.
1292
01:15:40,503 --> 01:15:44,998
- How are you feeling?
- Angry. No, furious.
1293
01:15:50,613 --> 01:15:55,881
Oh, Mrs Deed. I do beg
your pardon. Mrs Mills.
1294
01:15:57,186 --> 01:16:02,818
Would you tell the committee what
your relationship is with Mr Justice Deed?
1295
01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:07,125
He was my pupil master, then
my lover, sometimes my mentor
1296
01:16:07,196 --> 01:16:09,324
and hopefully my friend.
1297
01:16:09,398 --> 01:16:13,233
Would you say he was
still an intimate friend?
1298
01:16:13,769 --> 01:16:16,432
We discuss intimate
matters at times.
1299
01:16:16,539 --> 01:16:20,135
Do these discussions
translate to the sort of
1300
01:16:20,209 --> 01:16:23,839
physical intimacy that
leads you into his bed?
1301
01:16:25,081 --> 01:16:26,105
No.
1302
01:16:28,217 --> 01:16:32,313
That's not the evidence three
officers of the court have given.
1303
01:16:32,688 --> 01:16:36,887
They saw you kissing the
judge in an intimate way
1304
01:16:36,959 --> 01:16:41,158
around the 11th of June last
year when you were before him.
1305
01:16:42,731 --> 01:16:45,326
Why should this
Tribunal believe you,
1306
01:16:45,401 --> 01:16:47,529
when you say you
weren't intimate with him?
1307
01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:50,835
We weren't! Not as you suggest.
1308
01:16:51,974 --> 01:16:55,604
The evidence informs of a
somewhat different behaviour pattern
1309
01:16:55,678 --> 01:16:59,308
with this judge you
again find yourself before.
1310
01:17:01,617 --> 01:17:06,078
Sir James, we do like to afford
witnesses the opportunity to respond.
1311
01:17:06,689 --> 01:17:09,716
Even though your statement
didn't call for a response.
1312
01:17:10,259 --> 01:17:12,251
Do you wish to reply?
1313
01:17:12,328 --> 01:17:14,524
This disciplinary hearing
has called into question
1314
01:17:14,597 --> 01:17:17,533
the standard of behaviour
by which I conduct myself,
1315
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,502
both professionally
and privately.
1316
01:17:21,103 --> 01:17:25,063
My behaviour is determined by a
personal sense of what I believe
1317
01:17:25,174 --> 01:17:27,837
to be right and proper and fair.
1318
01:17:27,943 --> 01:17:30,742
It doesn't allow one to
collude with criminal clients
1319
01:17:30,813 --> 01:17:32,090
whilst knowing
that they are guilty,
1320
01:17:32,114 --> 01:17:34,811
nor does it allow one
to conspire with others
1321
01:17:34,884 --> 01:17:38,719
to undermine someone
honourable, decent and courageous.
1322
01:17:39,922 --> 01:17:42,482
I am comfortable with the
conduct of my relationships.
1323
01:17:42,558 --> 01:17:46,654
I have done nothing with which
I feel I need to reproach myself.
1324
01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:49,441
Beyond that, My Lord,
I have nothing to say.
1325
01:17:49,465 --> 01:17:54,494
I think you've said quite
enough. Thank you, Mrs Mills.
1326
01:18:01,443 --> 01:18:03,969
We would like to
call Mr Justice Deed.
1327
01:18:05,414 --> 01:18:07,159
Why didn't you tell me you
were calling him as a witness?
1328
01:18:07,183 --> 01:18:08,845
Because you would have objected.
1329
01:18:22,565 --> 01:18:26,161
No, we can dispense with
that. He's a High Court judge.
1330
01:18:26,235 --> 01:18:30,172
If he can't be relied on to tell
the truth, then what hope is there?
1331
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:37,336
Sir John, some of these questions
are of a somewhat delicate,
1332
01:18:37,413 --> 01:18:38,904
intimate nature, sir.
1333
01:18:39,014 --> 01:18:41,483
So is the offence of
which we are accused.
1334
01:18:41,584 --> 01:18:43,576
You are not accused, Sir John,
1335
01:18:43,652 --> 01:18:46,121
nor were you summoned
before this tribunal.
1336
01:18:46,222 --> 01:18:50,660
Well, it's not one hand clapping
that Mrs Mills stands accused of.
1337
01:18:50,726 --> 01:18:54,891
You are here merely as a
witness to character and fact.
1338
01:18:54,964 --> 01:18:57,559
One who is accused
with her nonetheless.
1339
01:18:59,134 --> 01:19:01,160
Get on with it, Sir James.
1340
01:19:03,038 --> 01:19:06,167
My Lord, on the
11th of June last year,
1341
01:19:06,242 --> 01:19:11,909
Mrs Mills was before you
prosecuting two drug addicts for murder.
1342
01:19:12,014 --> 01:19:14,415
A case in which I
myself was involved.
1343
01:19:14,483 --> 01:19:17,419
She was also before me
in an injunction hearing
1344
01:19:17,486 --> 01:19:20,115
about a minor who didn't
want a heart transplant.
1345
01:19:20,222 --> 01:19:22,316
It appears that had
ended by the 11th.
1346
01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,655
Yes, well, the hearing had.
1347
01:19:24,727 --> 01:19:29,256
The boy died immediately
following the operation.
1348
01:19:29,331 --> 01:19:33,894
Mrs Mills was upset
as a result, was she not?
1349
01:19:34,803 --> 01:19:36,135
Extremely.
1350
01:19:38,474 --> 01:19:41,535
She called on you
at your lodgings.
1351
01:19:42,878 --> 01:19:46,246
Can you tell the
committee what happened?
1352
01:19:46,315 --> 01:19:50,184
Yes, she appeared
drunk, she got more drunk,
1353
01:19:50,252 --> 01:19:52,346
finally she collapsed
1354
01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:55,681
and I put her to bed.
1355
01:19:55,758 --> 01:19:58,387
- At the lodgings?
- Yes.
1356
01:19:59,328 --> 01:20:02,526
- In whose bed did she sleep?
- Mine.
1357
01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:10,800
Sir John, would you mind telling
the committee where you slept?
1358
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:13,736
I didn't, for the most part.
1359
01:20:15,611 --> 01:20:19,480
I was concerned that
she didn't vomit and choke.
1360
01:20:21,850 --> 01:20:26,015
Did you and Mrs
Mills sleep together?
1361
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:31,786
No.
1362
01:20:39,168 --> 01:20:42,366
Are you absolutely
certain about that, My Lord?
1363
01:20:42,705 --> 01:20:44,367
I think I might have remembered.
1364
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:48,639
- Do you remember?
- Yes. I've given you my answer.
1365
01:20:48,744 --> 01:20:52,408
Then perhaps you can tell
us what you did that night?
1366
01:20:52,481 --> 01:20:55,417
I've told you. I made
sure she didn't choke.
1367
01:20:57,086 --> 01:20:58,611
I see.
1368
01:20:58,687 --> 01:21:00,451
Sir John.
1369
01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:05,324
Did you have sex with this
lady while she was in your bed?
1370
01:21:05,394 --> 01:21:08,990
Whilst she was drunk? That
would be very ungentlemanly.
1371
01:21:09,098 --> 01:21:10,760
Don't you think?
1372
01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:16,903
Regrettably, I haven't
had sex with Mrs Mills
1373
01:21:18,140 --> 01:21:20,632
in a very long while.
1374
01:21:22,211 --> 01:21:24,407
Is that meant to
be clever, Sir John?
1375
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,575
I didn't come here to be clever,
I came here to tell the truth.
1376
01:21:27,649 --> 01:21:31,484
We have heard evidence to the
contrary from members of the staff.
1377
01:21:31,553 --> 01:21:35,012
Then it's entirely mistaken.
1378
01:21:37,326 --> 01:21:41,161
Sir John, let us be
entirely clear about this.
1379
01:21:42,898 --> 01:21:44,833
Are you saying you
have never been
1380
01:21:44,933 --> 01:21:47,801
in a compromising
situation with Mrs Mills
1381
01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:53,001
since you and she were
lovers some 16 years ago?
1382
01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:56,204
If you read back the
tribunal reporter's notes,
1383
01:21:56,278 --> 01:21:59,510
you will find
exactly what I said.
1384
01:21:59,615 --> 01:22:04,644
Are you saying that you have never
had sex with her in all that while?
1385
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,018
Is that what you're telling us?
1386
01:22:06,088 --> 01:22:09,718
I have already told you.
Do you think I'm a liar?
1387
01:22:10,692 --> 01:22:14,993
Well, we think no such
thing, Sir John, we...
1388
01:22:16,799 --> 01:22:20,236
We could not. We could not.
1389
01:22:22,004 --> 01:22:24,269
Is there anything else
you wish to share with us,
1390
01:22:24,373 --> 01:22:26,274
before we consider our findings?
1391
01:22:26,375 --> 01:22:27,604
Yes.
1392
01:22:29,878 --> 01:22:33,042
Mrs Mills is a hard-working
Queens Counsel
1393
01:22:33,115 --> 01:22:35,414
who has helped a lot of people
1394
01:22:35,484 --> 01:22:39,353
who would not otherwise
have found access to justice.
1395
01:22:39,455 --> 01:22:42,948
This hearing is
shabby and unjust
1396
01:22:43,058 --> 01:22:47,655
and I believe that it has another
and altogether sinister agenda.
1397
01:22:47,729 --> 01:22:50,699
It has been brought about for
reasons which I would suggest
1398
01:22:50,766 --> 01:22:55,727
are the opposite of those
ideals of fairness and decency
1399
01:22:56,638 --> 01:22:59,574
which you and I
have sworn to uphold.
1400
01:23:02,411 --> 01:23:06,212
Well, you're entitled to express
your opinion, Sir John. We note it.
1401
01:23:08,784 --> 01:23:13,688
We shall retire for a
moment before we report.
1402
01:23:19,962 --> 01:23:21,794
What do you think
this is all about?
1403
01:23:21,897 --> 01:23:24,560
I think this is all
about to end now.
1404
01:23:24,633 --> 01:23:27,728
They may yet
present their photos.
1405
01:23:27,803 --> 01:23:29,362
Well, we'll soon know.
1406
01:23:37,379 --> 01:23:40,508
Well, I'm not going to
call for closing speeches.
1407
01:23:44,086 --> 01:23:46,146
Having considered the testimony,
1408
01:23:46,255 --> 01:23:50,022
and the particular weight to
what Sir John Deed told us,
1409
01:23:50,092 --> 01:23:55,087
that he did not have sexual
relations with Mrs Mills,
1410
01:23:55,163 --> 01:23:58,156
we can do no other
than to take his word.
1411
01:23:58,233 --> 01:24:00,828
Therefore the case is dismissed.
1412
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,476
Congratulations, Jo.
1413
01:24:13,582 --> 01:24:15,210
They didn't find me
not guilty, Simon.
1414
01:24:15,284 --> 01:24:17,219
They didn't believe me
or even exonerate me.
1415
01:24:17,286 --> 01:24:19,221
They were simply
obliged to believe John.
1416
01:24:19,288 --> 01:24:20,881
You're innocent,
Jo, end of story.
1417
01:24:20,956 --> 01:24:23,482
But they don't believe it.
1418
01:24:23,559 --> 01:24:27,553
It's better than having the case
proven and being taken off the road.
1419
01:24:27,663 --> 01:24:29,962
Do you think I'd
ever let that happen?
1420
01:24:30,999 --> 01:24:34,697
I have no problem with losing
when it's an even playing field.
1421
01:24:34,770 --> 01:24:37,934
It never is with John. He seems to think
anyone who made a profit in business
1422
01:24:38,006 --> 01:24:39,030
did so by foul means.
1423
01:24:39,141 --> 01:24:41,804
Calm down, darling,
all is far from lost.
1424
01:24:41,877 --> 01:24:45,973
Why didn't you produce the
photographs of them in bed?
1425
01:24:46,048 --> 01:24:47,209
To have done so
1426
01:24:47,282 --> 01:24:51,481
in the face of His Lordship denying
they had an affair or were in bed,
1427
01:24:51,553 --> 01:24:54,148
would be to bring the
bench into disrepute.
1428
01:24:54,256 --> 01:24:57,590
To say nothing of having to
admit that your staff at the lodgings
1429
01:24:57,693 --> 01:25:00,094
broke into his bedroom.
1430
01:25:01,463 --> 01:25:05,230
The government has as much, if not
more to lose than your clients, George.
1431
01:25:05,334 --> 01:25:07,254
We're as anxious as you
to see this case founder,
1432
01:25:07,336 --> 01:25:10,397
assuming, as you say,
there is no case to answer.
1433
01:25:10,505 --> 01:25:14,135
That depends on whether
he admits the illegal evidence.
1434
01:25:14,209 --> 01:25:17,008
We've been trying to help
you there, Mrs Channing.
1435
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,606
Our research department
has found every precedent
1436
01:25:20,682 --> 01:25:23,777
for refusal to admit
tainted evidence.
1437
01:25:25,354 --> 01:25:28,756
My Lord, I know you have heard
arguments but before you give your ruling
1438
01:25:28,857 --> 01:25:32,259
on whether or not to admit
the illegally discovered evidence
1439
01:25:32,327 --> 01:25:34,319
on behalf of the claimant,
1440
01:25:34,396 --> 01:25:36,695
I would like you
to give full weight
1441
01:25:36,765 --> 01:25:40,361
to the principle behind
the Civil Procedure Rules
1442
01:25:40,435 --> 01:25:43,371
to deal with cases justly.
1443
01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:46,371
I would implore you to exclude
1444
01:25:46,441 --> 01:25:49,240
the unlawfully obtained
emails on this basis.
1445
01:25:49,344 --> 01:25:51,506
Or would you like
to see the photos?
1446
01:25:52,914 --> 01:25:55,850
What photos, Mrs Channing?
1447
01:25:55,917 --> 01:26:00,150
Ah, the photocopies of
the authority, My Lord.
1448
01:26:01,456 --> 01:26:04,688
I think you're being
facetious, Mrs Channing.
1449
01:26:06,128 --> 01:26:07,960
However, I am
denying the claimant
1450
01:26:08,063 --> 01:26:11,693
the right to use this illegally
discovered information.
1451
01:26:11,767 --> 01:26:14,566
My Lord, can I direct you
to Kuruma and the Crown?
1452
01:26:14,636 --> 01:26:17,663
No, Mrs Mills, I don't
need to hear any more.
1453
01:26:18,473 --> 01:26:21,443
Giving carte blanche for
the illegal trawl of emails
1454
01:26:21,543 --> 01:26:25,310
would set a bad precedent.
The evidence is tainted.
1455
01:26:25,414 --> 01:26:27,246
I can't allow it. To do
so would be unsafe.
1456
01:26:27,315 --> 01:26:30,217
Then I would argue
under Section 3, My Lord,
1457
01:26:30,285 --> 01:26:33,016
that as the main plank of
the claimant's case has fallen,
1458
01:26:33,088 --> 01:26:34,215
there is no claim to answer.
1459
01:26:34,289 --> 01:26:36,349
I would therefore ask
you to throw out the claim.
1460
01:26:36,458 --> 01:26:38,984
Yes, I can see where
you're coming from.
1461
01:26:39,094 --> 01:26:42,553
But before I give my ruling, I
need to know if the electronic search
1462
01:26:42,664 --> 01:26:45,634
I ordered on behalf of the
claimant has yielded any results
1463
01:26:45,734 --> 01:26:48,169
that might affect my
decision. Mrs Mills?
1464
01:26:48,236 --> 01:26:51,138
Our data recovery experts
did find other erased emails
1465
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,973
that relate directly to
the action. Nine, in fact.
1466
01:26:55,043 --> 01:26:58,309
The most telling of these was
one sent on December 9, 2000
1467
01:26:58,413 --> 01:27:01,247
by Tim Listfield, the
CEO of One-Way PLC,
1468
01:27:01,316 --> 01:27:04,252
to Max Solveigh, the
marketing director. It reads,
1469
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:07,756
"Max, what tosh. We don't spend all
these millions developing our phones
1470
01:27:07,856 --> 01:27:11,657
"to have a bunch of pinheads tell
us they could be harming customers.
1471
01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:14,253
"Find another result."
1472
01:27:14,329 --> 01:27:16,525
My Lord, you can't
admit this, you agreed.
1473
01:27:16,598 --> 01:27:20,228
No, Mrs Channing, I agreed not
to admit evidence gathered illegally.
1474
01:27:20,335 --> 01:27:23,601
I made an order for this discovery.
I'm going to admit this evidence.
1475
01:27:23,705 --> 01:27:26,641
My Lord, this is not in the spirit
of the Civil Procedure Rules.
1476
01:27:26,742 --> 01:27:29,041
Mrs Channing, I have ruled.
1477
01:27:29,144 --> 01:27:33,104
Unless you have an argument that relates
to this legally discovered material,
1478
01:27:33,215 --> 01:27:35,013
I'm going to allow
this case to go forward.
1479
01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:40,681
Further, I'm going to reserve it
to myself to be heard here in...
1480
01:27:43,024 --> 01:27:44,720
three weeks, Mr Harrison?
1481
01:27:45,494 --> 01:27:48,896
Three weeks, My Lord, the 30th?
1482
01:27:48,964 --> 01:27:51,763
The 30th it is. Until then.
1483
01:28:03,445 --> 01:28:05,380
You really are
pushing your luck.
1484
01:28:05,447 --> 01:28:08,440
I expected the defendant's
counsel to be here.
1485
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,022
One-Way are going to fight this,
1486
01:28:15,090 --> 01:28:16,888
and fight dirty, I
shouldn't wonder.
1487
01:28:16,958 --> 01:28:18,936
- You're going to need some help.
- Not from you, thank you.
1488
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,192
No, there's a Sergeant
Bridges who might prove useful.
1489
01:28:23,098 --> 01:28:25,932
I'll get Row Colemore
to put you in touch.
1490
01:28:27,602 --> 01:28:30,094
Do you want to
see a film tonight?
1491
01:28:30,172 --> 01:28:34,633
I've just about got my reputation
back. I'm not in a hurry to risk it again.
1492
01:28:34,743 --> 01:28:37,269
Is there a risk, Jo?
You're not before me now.
1493
01:28:37,379 --> 01:28:40,975
Anything to do with
you is a risk, John.
1493
01:28:41,305 --> 01:29:41,237
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