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I will kill you!

...and that concludes
the court's explanation

of the legal aspects of this case.

And now gentlemen of the jury I
come to my final instructions to you.

Murder in the first degree,

premeditated homicide is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts.

You've listened to the testimony,

you've had the law read to you and
interpreted as it applies to this case.

It now becomes your duty to try to
separate the facts from the fancy.

One man is dead. The life
of another is at stake.

I urge you to deliberate
thoughtfully and honestly.

If there is a reasonable doubt, you
must bring me a verdict of not guilty.

If however there is no reasonable
doubt, you must, in good conscience,

find the accused guilty.

Whatever your decision, your
verdict must be unanimous.

In the event that you do
find the accused guilty,

the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy.

Bear in mind that he could
face the death penalty.

I don't envy your job, you're faced with a
grave responsibility gentlemen, thank you.

Can I get a couple of you gentlemen to help
me pull those two tables together please?

Hey, get some windows open man.

Yeah!

- Piece of gum?
- No, thank you.

- Bad news.
- What?

You see the Weather Report?

This is the hottest day of the year.

Figures...

You'd think they could have
air-conditioned the place, you know?

- I don't wanna drop dead in
court... Piece of gum? - Yeah!

OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.

You want anything, I�ll
be right outside the door.

Just hit the button
'n' I'll come right in.

Thanks.

I never knew they locked the door.

They always lock the door
brother. What'd you think?

I don't know. It just
never occurred to me.

- Hey, what's that for?
- I figured we might wanna vote by ballot.

That's a great idea. We might be
able to get this boy elected senator.

- Well, how'd you like it?
- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.

- Yeah? I'm falling asleep. - What I
mean is, I've never sat on a jury before.

I've sat on juries.

One thing that always amazes
me is how these lawyers

can talk and talk, even on a
case as obvious as this one.

- I've never heard so much talk about
nothin'. - Well, I guess they're entitled.

Oh sure, everyone's
entitled to a fair trial,

I'd be the last one to say
a thing against that, but...

sometimes I think, we ought
to take these tough kids

and just slap 'em down,
before they start trouble.

It would save a lot of time and money.

Mr. Foreman, would d'ya
say, we get started here?

Yeah, let get this over with,
we probably all got things to do.

We might as well take a five minute
break. There's a man in the bathroom.

Are... we sitting in our own way?

So what do you think about the case?

I enjoyed it. No dead's
bus, you know what I mean?

We were lucky to get a murder case.

I figured us for an assault or a
burglary or something like that.

These can be dull...

Hey, can you imagine, sitting in
here for three days just for this?

Yeah, how about that
business with the knife?

I mean, expecting normal people
to believe that kind of bullshit.

Well you gotta expect that. You
know what you're dealing with here.

What's the matter? You cold?

Well, I can hardly touch my
nose, you know what I mean?

Your horn's alright. Try your lights.

Ahh, this is beautiful! The
air condition that doesn't work!

Somebody take a letter to
the mayor. Dear stingy...!

I didn't get a chance to see the
papers today. Anything new going on?

I was just wondering
how the market closed.

I wouldn't know.

You're in exchange or something?

No, no, I'm a broker.

Really? I run a messenger
service, The Beck and Call Company.

My wife's idea. We employ 37
people. Started from nothing!

Come on, Mr. Foreman, come on,
what do you say, let's go here!

Alright gentlemen, let's take seats.

This better be fast, I got two
tickets to the ball game tonight.

Yanks and Cleveland. We've got
this new kid Modjelewski in there.

This kid, he's a real
bull, you know, I mean...

Talking about a real
jug-handled. You know?

You quite the baseball fan, eh?

Where do you want us to sit?

Well, I was thinking we'd just sit
in order of jury number: 2,3,4...

I kinda like it.

If that's alright with you gentlemen.

- Sure!
- What's the difference?

I think it's reasonable to
sit according to numbers.

What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney?

I beg your pardon?

I thought it was very
sharp the way he handled

all his points one by
one, in logical sequence.

Takes a good brain for
that, I was very impressed.

Yes, he did an expert job.

They got a lot of drive these
guys, you know, real drive.

Let's get this show on the road!

You... you'd like to sit down?

Gentleman at the window?

Would you like to sit down?

Oh... yeah, sorry!

It's pretty tough, isn't it?

I mean, the kid just kills his
father, bang... just like that!

If you analyze the figures on the...

Come on now, what figures?

It's those people I'm telling you.

See, they just let the
kids run wild out there.

Maybe it serves 'em right,
you know what I mean?

Where's that elderly gentleman?

He's in the bathroom.

Would you knock on the door please?

Sure.

Thank you.

You a Yankee fan?

No, Milwaukee.

Milwaukee? What, you kidding?

It's like getting hit on the
head with a crowbar once a day!

I mean, tell me, who they got?

Really, I'm asking you, who they
got? Besides great grasskeepers?

We'd like to get started here.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to keep you waiting.

Quite alright.

Alright gentlemen.

You can handle this
any way you'd like to.

I have no rules.

We can discuss it first and
then vote, that's one way

or we can vote and
then see where we stand.

That's all I have to say...

I think it's customary to
take a preliminary vote.

Yeah, come on, let's vote!

Then we can all go home!

It's up to you, but let's just remember
this is a first degree murder charge.

If we find him guilty, he
could die by lethal injection.

Yeah, let's vote.

Yeah, let's see who's where!

Anyone who doesn't wanna vote?

Let's just remember
that this is gotta be

twelve to nothing either
way, that's the law.

Everyone ready?

All those voting
guilty raise your hands.

Eleven.

All those voting not guilty.

One.

Eleven-one guilty.

Now we now where we stand.

Well there's always one, eh?

So what do we do now?

I guess we... talk.

Honestly, you really
think he's innocent?

I don't know.

I mean, let's be reasonable here.

You sat in the court
room, you heard everything.

The rest of us did. This man is a
dangerous killer, you could see it.

Man? He's 18 years old.

He's old enough!

He knifed his own father,
four inches into the chest.

Pretty obvious. I was
convinced on the very first day.

Sure, who wasn't?

I really think this is one
of these open and shut things.

I mean, they proved it
a dozen different ways.

Would you like to list 'em for you?

No, no, no...

Then what DO you want?

I just wanna talk!

Well, what's there to talk about?

Eleven men here agree.

I mean, who would have to
think twice about it except you?

Hey look, let me ask you a question.

Do you really believe that boy's story?

I don't know if I believe his
story or not, maybe I don't.

So then, why did you
vote not guilty for?

Look, eleven men voted guilty.

I just don't find it easy to raise my
hand and send a boy to prison for life

or maybe even to be executed
without talking about it first.

- Who says it's easy for me?
- No one.

What, because I voted fast?

No.

I honestly think the kid's guilty.

You couldn't change my mind
if you talked a 100 years!

I'm not trying to change your mind.

We're talking about
a person's life here.

We can't just decide in 5 minutes.

Suppose we're wrong?

Suppose we're wrong! Suppose the
whole building fell on my head!

You could suppose anything you want.

That's right.

So then what difference does
it make how long it takes?

If we honestly think the kid's guilty,
suppose we finish in 5 minutes, so what?

Suppose we take an hour, your
game doesn't start till 8 o'clock.

Ok slugger, be my guest.

Who's got something to say?

Not me.

I'm willing to put in an hour.

- What? - Great! I heard a
pretty good story last night...

There is this woman, she goes
running into the doctor's office...

Excuse me, that's not why
we are sitting in here for.

Alright then, you tell me
what are we sitting here for.

Well, maybe for no reason,
I don't know, but look...

...this kid has been knocked
around all of his life,

been born in a slum, he lost his
mother when he was just, what, 9...

and he spent a year and
a half in an orphanage,

while his old man was doing
a jail term for forgery.

That's not a very good headstart.

He's had a rotten 18 years.

I just think we owe that
boy a few words, that's all.

Hey look, I don't mind
telling you this mister,

but we don't owe him a thing!

That's right!

I mean, he had a fair trial, didn't he?

What do you think that trial cost?

And he was lucky he got it.

We're all grown ups in here and
we heard the facts, now didn't we?

Now you're not gonna sit there 'n' tell
us we're supposed to believe this kid

knowing what he is.

Look, I've lived among them all my life.

I mean, you can't believe a word
they say. They are born liars.

It suddenly occurs to me that
you must be an ignorant man.

What are you talking about?

You think you have a
monopoly on the truth?

Why are you making a federal case out of
this, come on man, how do you like this guy?

I think certain things should
be pointed out to this man.

This isn't Sunday, we
don't need a sermon in here.

I don't see any need to argue like that,

I think we ought to be able
to behave like gentlemen,

if we're going to discuss this case.

Maybe the gentleman who's disagreeing
down there could tell us why.

Tell us what he thinks and we could
show him where he's probably mixed up.

- What are you doing?
- Eh?

What is that?

It's one of the products I work
on at the ad agency: Rice Pops.

"The breakfast with the built
in bounce" I wrote that one.

Oh, that's where that came from.

That's very catchy.

Do you mind?

I'm sorry, I just have this habit
of doodling. It keeps me focused.

We're trying to do something.
We could be sitting here forever.

No, look, look, look,
I might have an idea.

I mean I'm just thinking
out loud, but it seems to me

that it's up to us to convince this
gentleman that we're right and he's wrong.

Maybe if we each took a minute or two
to explain how we feel, you know...

- It was just a quick thought.
- No, no, no, that's good.

Suppose we go once around the table.

- Anything, just let start it off!
- Fine, why don't you go first?

No, not me...

I think we ought to go in order.

Ok, that's fair... in
order. Two minutes a piece.

That means you go first.

Oh, well, um...

Well, it's hard to put it into
words... I just think that he's guilty.

I thought it was obvious from the
word go. Nobody proved otherwise.

Nobody has to prove otherwise. The burden
of proof rests with the prosecution.

The defendant doesn't even
have to open his mouth.

I know that! What I meant was...

The man is guilty,
there was a witness.

Somebody saw him do it.

Ok, here's what I think.

And I have no personal feelings
at all, I'm talking facts.

Number one, let's take
the old man who lived

on the 2nd floor directly
underneath the room

where the murder was committed.

Now, he says that about 10 minutes
after 12 on the night of the killing

he heard a loud noise from
upstairs. Sounded like a fight.

And he heard the boy yell
out: "I'm going to kill you"

A second later the body hit the floor,
he run to his apartment door, looked out,

saw the kid running down the
stairs and out of the house.

He called the police and they found
the father with a knife in his chest.

- And the coroner fixed the
time of death around midnight.

He's right. These are facts. You
can't refute facts. This kid's guilty.

Look, I'm as sentimental as the
next guy. I know he's only 18.

But he's gotta pay for what he did.

I'm with you pops.

It was obvious to me that the
boy's entire story was flimsy.

He claimed he was at the movies
at the time of the killing

yet one hour later he couldn't
remember what films he saw.

- He claims that.
- That's right. Did you hear that?

That's absolutely right.

And no one saw him going
into or out of the theater.

And what about the
woman across the street?

If her testimony don't
prove it, nothing does.

That's right, she's the one
who actually saw the killing.

That's right.

Come on fellas, let's go
in order here, come on.

Now look. Here's a woman
who's lying in her bed.

She can't sleep, dying from
the heat, you know what I mean.

And then she looks out the
window, and right across the street

she sees this kid stick
the knife into his father.

It's 12.10 on the nose. Everything fits.

And look, she's known
this boy all of his life.

His window is right
opposite hers right across

the el tracks and she
swore she saw him do it.

Through the windows of
a passing elevated train?

This el train had no passengers on.
It was just being moved downtown.

Lights out, remember that?

And they proved in court
that at night you can

look through the windows
of a passing el train

with the lights out and you can see
what's happening on the other side.

Now they proved that!

Could I ask you a question?

Go ahead.

You don't believe the boy.
Why do you believe the woman?

Isn't she one of them too?

Oh you're just a real
smart fellow, aren't you?

Take it easy.

What's he so wise
about? I'm telling ya...

Alright, alright, we don't
need none of that in here.

Now, whose turn is it?

Alright, you're next.

I pass.

- What did he say?
- He passes.

It's his privilege.

How about the next gentleman?

I don't know...

I came convinced very early
in the case. Excuse me.

See, I'm looking for motive.

I think it's very important. If you don't
have a motive you don't have a case, right?

So anyway, that testimony from those people
across the hall from the kid's apartment,

well, that's why that was so important,

cause didn't they say that the
father 'n' the kid had an argument

and the kid run out
sometime around 7 o'clock

that night, I could be
wrong about the time...

It was 8 o'clock.

Yes, that's right, it was 8 o'clock.

They heard the argument but they
couldn't tell what the argument was about.

Then they heard the
father hit the son twice

and then later they saw the son
walk out of the apartment angrily

...but what does it prove?

It don't exactly prove anything, I'm just
saying it's part of the picture, that's all.

Yeah, but you did say it revealed the
motive and that's what the prosecution said.

To me it's a very weak motive!

This boy has been hit so many times that
violence is a normal part of his life.

I don't think a couple more hits in
the face would provoke him to murder.

It may have been two hits too
many. Everyone has a breaking point.

- Anything else?
- No.

- How about the next gentleman?
- Me?

I don't know...

I mean it's practically all
been said already, you know?

I mean we could talk about it forever.

This kid's 0 for five. I
mean look at his record.

At 10 he's at juvenile court,
he threw a rock at a teacher,

at 14 he was in reform
school cause he stole a car,

he's been arrested for muggin',

he's been picked up twice for trying
to slash another teen with a knife,

he's real good with that switchblade
you know. Everybody said that.

This is a real fine boy.

Ever since he was 5 years
old, his father beat him up

and he used his fists.

So would I. A kid like that?

Wouldn't you call those beatings a
motive for him to kill his father?

I'd say it's a motive for him to
be an angry young man, I'd say that.

These kids, the way they are nowadays.

They're angry, hostile.

I mean, look at the way they talk.

When I was at his age I called
my father "Sir", that's right!

Ever hear a boy call
his father that anymore?

Fathers don't seem to think
that's important anymore.

- No? You got any kid?
- Two.

I got one.

He is 32.

We did everything in the world
for that boy that could happen.

When he was 9 he run away from a fight,

I saw him do it, I was so
ashamed I almost threw up.

And I said to him right straight out,
I said "I'm gonna make a man out of you

or I'm gonna bust you in half trying".

I made a man out of him alright.

When he was 16 we got into a battle,
he hit me in the face, big kid, ya know.

I haven't seen him in 14 years.

Rotten kid!

You work your heart out...

Well come on, let's get on with it.

I think... I think we're
missing the point here.

This boy, let's say he's a
product of a filthy neighborhood

and a broken home, he can't help it,

we're here to decide whether
he's guilty or innocent of murder,

not to go into reasons
why he grew up this way.

He was born in a slum.

Slums are breeding grounds for criminals,
I know as a view it's no secret.

Slum big grounds are
potential menaces to society.

You can say that again!

Alright, kids who crawl out of these
places they're nothing but trash.

Hey, I don't want a think in the
world to do with them, I'm telling you.

I lived in a slum all my life!

I nursed that trash in Harlem
hospital six nights a week.

Hey, now, come on!

I used to play in a backyard that was full
of garbage, maybe it still smells on me!

Now, come on, why you got to go there...

- Let's be reasonable, there's nothing
personal... - There is something personal!

Now, now, let's not be so sensitive.

This kind of sensitivity I understand.

Alright, let's stop all this
arguing, it's just wasting time.

Now, it's your turn, let's go.

Me? I didn't expect a turn.

I thought everybody was trying to
convince me, I thought that was the idea.

Check, I forgot about that.

I mean, what's the difference?
He's the one keeping us here,

let's see what he's got to say.

Wait a minute! We decided we're
gonna do this a certain way,

let's stick to what we said.

Come on, stop treating us like kids!

- Kids? What are you talking about?
- Just what I said.

What, just that I'm trying
to keep things organized here?

Listen, you wanna do this? You sit here!

You take responsibility.
I'll just shut up.

What now, why'd get so hot about it man,
why don't you just calm down up there!

Don't tell me to calm
down, here's the chair.

You keep things runnin'
smooth 'n' everything.

You think it's a snap?
Come on man Mr. Foreman,

let's see how great you run this show.

- You ever seen a thing like that before?
- Oh you think it's funny now, eh?

Hey, this whole thing is unimportant.

It's unimportant?
What? You wanna try it?

No, look, you're doing a beautiful job!

You're doing a beautiful job!

Come on now, let's hear from somebody.

Excuse me gentlemen!

If you would like to hear
how I feel about all of this,

I'd be glad to tell you right now.

I don't care what you gonna do!

Oh now, he's mad, you mad?

I don't have anything brilliant and
I already know what you all know.

From the testimony,
the boy looks guilty.

- You can say that again!
- Alright, now maybe he is, but,

I spent 3 days in court listening to
that evidence build up and build up

and everyone seemed so positive, I began
to get a peculiar feeling about this case,

because nothing is
that positive, nothing.

I had a bunch of questions
I wanted to ask about all

these things, they mean
anything or not I don't know,

but I do know that I felt the lawyer,
the boy's lawyer, was not doing his job.

He was letting too many
things go by, little things

What do you mean little things? Look,
when these guys don't ask questions,

it's because they know the answer and they
figure that they'll probably get hurt by it.

Yeah, but it could also mean that the
lawyer is just plain stupid, couldn't it?

Sounds like you've
met my brother in law.

Anyway... I put myself
in the boy's place.

If I was that boy, I would've
asked for another lawyer.

I mean, if I'm on trial for my life

I would want my lawyer to
take all of the prosecution's

witnesses and just tear
them to shreds, or try.

Now look, there was one
eye witness to this killing

and someone else said
that they heard it and then

saw the boy running out later.

There was a lot of
circumstantial evidence,

but those two witnesses where the
entire case for the prosecution.

Suppose they were wrong!

What do you mean suppose they were wrong?
What's the point of having witnesses at all?

Could they be wrong?

They took the stand under oath!
What are you trying to say?

Well, they're people.
People make mistakes.

Could they be wrong?

No, I don't think so.

Do you know so?

Nobody could know something like
that. This isn't an exact science.

That's right, it isn't.

Let's try to get to the point.

Let's take the knife they
found on the father's chest.

Wait a minute! Don't
you think we ought to...

Some of the people haven't
had the chance to talk.

They can talk anytime they want,
just gimme a second here, will you?

What about that knife?

You know the one our fine, upright boy
admitted buying the night of the murder?

Let's talk about it.

Yes, let's talk about it.

As a matter of fact let's look at it
again. I'd like to see it. Mr. Foreman?

We all know what it looks like. What
are we gonna gain by seeing it again?

He brought it up.

The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits of evidence,

the knife, where it was bought, it's
pretty strong evidence, don't you think?

Yes I do.

- We're gonna need that knife.
- OK.

One: The boy admitted
going out of his house

at 8 o'clock on the night of the murder

after being punished
several times by his father.

He said slapped, not punished. There's
a difference between a slap and a punish.

After being slapped
several times by his father.

Two: The boy went directly
to a neighbourhood junkshop,

where he bought,
what do you call it?

- Switchblade!
- Switchblade knife!

Thank you, thank you. Three: This
wasn't what you'd call an ordinary knife.

It had a very unusual carved handle.

Four: The storekeeper who sold it to him
identified the knife in court and said

it was the only one of its kind
that he had ever had in stock.

Five: At about 8:45 the boy run into
three friends of his in front of a diner.

Am I correct so far?

You bet he is! Listen to this man,
he knows what he's talking about.

The boy talked with his friends for
about an hour, leaving them at 9:45.

During this time, they
saw the switch blade knife.

Six: Each of them identified the death
weapon in court as that same knife.

Seven: The boy arrived
home at about 10 o'clock.

Now, this is where the
stories offered by the

boy and the state begin
to diverge slightly.

He claims that he stayed home until 11:30
then went to one of those all-night movies,

he returned home at about 3:50 in
the morning to find his father dead

and himself arrested.

Now, what happened to
the switchblade knife?

He claims that the knife fell
through a hole in his pocket,

sometime between 11:30 and 3:50 while
he was on the street to the movie

and that he never saw it again.

No! This is a tale gentlemen!

I think it's quite clear that he
never went to the movies that night.

No one in the house saw him go out at
11:30. No one at the theatre identified him.

He couldn't even remember the
names of the pictures he saw.

Now... what actually happened is this.

The boy stayed home, had
another fight with his father,

stabbed him to death with the
knife at about 10 minutes after 12

and fled from the house.

He even remembered to wipe the
knife clean of fingerprints.

Thanks man.

Please give me the knife.

Are you trying to tell me that the knife
fells through a hole in the boy's pocket,

that someone picked it up off the
street where it was the boy's house,

stabbed his father, just to be amusing?

I'm just saying that it is
possible that the boy lost the knife

and somebody else stabbed his
father with a similar knife.

It's possible, that's all.

It's possible...

Take a look at that knife.

I've never seen one like it.

Neither has the storekeeper
who sold it to the boy.

And you're asking us to accept
a pretty incredible coincidence?

I'm not asking you to accept anything.
I'm just saying that it's possible.

And I say it's not possible!

What are you trying to do?

Who do you think you are...

Hey, what is this? Where
did you get that knife now?

Where has that come from?

Quiet, quiet, please!

Where did you get that knife?

I was out walking last
night, just... thinking...

I was in the boy's neighborhood,

that knife comes from a pawn
shop three blocks from his house,

it cost 25$.

- It's against the law to buy it.
- I broke the law.

Listen, you pulled a
pretty bright trick here,

now suppose you tell me what it proves.

There could be ten
knives like that, so what?

There could be...

What does that mean?

I mean, so he got the
same kind of knife,

what is that, the discovery
of the age or something?

It'd still be an incredible
coincidence for another person

to have stabbed the father
with the same kind of knife.

Come on, the odds are a million to one!

But it's possible!

Alright gentlemen, let's take sits.
There's no point meddling around here.

Very interesting that he should find a
knife exactly like the one the boy bought.

What's interesting about
it? It proves anything?

Proves? No, no, no... I didn't mean...

How come the kid bought the
knife in the first place?

Well, he claims...

I know he claims he bought it
as a present for a friend of his,

who was gonna give it
to him the next day,

because he busted the other kid's
knife dropping it off the pants!

That's what he said.

The friend testified in court
that the boy did break his knife.

How long before the killing?

Three weeks, right?

So how come our noble lad bought this thing
an half an hour after his father smacked him

and three and a half
hours before they found it

shoved up to here into
the father's chest?

Look, he was gonna give it to his
friend, he just wanted to use it first.

Let me ask you a question, this is
something I wanted to bring up in court.

If the boy did buy the knife to use
on his father, how come he showed

what was going to
become the murder weapon

to three friends a couple
of hours before the killing?

All this is just talk!

The boy lied and you know it.

Do you think he lied?

That's a stupid question,
damn right he lied!

And you sir?

You don't have to ask me that,
you know my answer, he lied, yes!

And you?

- I think maybe...
- Maybe, wait a second!

What are you, the kid's
lawyer or something?

Who are you to come in here
and start cross examining us?

Isn't this what's supposed
to happen in a jury room?

There are still eleven of us
in here who think he's guilty.

Yeah, I mean what'd you
think you gonna accomplish?

You're not gonna change anybody's mind!

You wanna be stubborn and
hang this jury? Go ahead!

The kid'll be tried again and
found guilty, as sure as he's born.

You're probably right!

So then what do you wanna do about
it? We could be here all night...

It's only one night. A boy may die.

Oh brother!

Anybody got a deck o'cards?

I don't think he should joke about it.

I don't see how all this talk about
the knife's got to do with anything.

I mean, come on, somebody
saw that boy stab his father.

What more do we need?

I got three car washes out there going to
pot while we're sitting up in here talking.

Come on, let's get done with
this so we can get outta here!

Excuse me, but...

...the knife was very important
to the district attorney,

he took one whole morning with that!

Come on, that guy was a 15th assistant
or something... What does he know?

I think we should get on with it.

These side arguments only slow us up.

Now, what about it?

You are the only one...

Gentlemen...

I have a proposition.

I'd like to call for another vote,

I want you eleven men to
vote by secret written ballot

and I will abstain.

If all eleven of you vote guilty,

I'm not gonna hold out, we'll go in
with a verdict to the judge right now.

But if anyone votes not
guilty, then we stay and talk!

And... that's all...

I'm ready right now,
if you'll all go for it.

Finally, you're behaving
like a reasonable man!

Come on, let's do it!

Anyone who doesn't agree?

Alright, pass these along.

Come on, today man...

Alright...

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Guilty.

Not guilty.

Guilty.

Well how do ya like that?

And another chap flips
his god damn wings!

Come on who was it? Cause I wanna know!

Excuse me! We agreed that
this would be a secret ballot.

- Secret?
- Yeah!

- What are you talking about?
- Secret...

There's no secrets in the jury room...

I know who did it...

Brother you are really
something, you know that?

You come in here

and you vote guilty like everybody else

and then there's golden voice preacher
over here starts to tear your heart out

with a lot of stories
about a poor little boy

who just couldn't help
becoming a murderer.

So you change your vote...

...that is the most sickening...

Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box?

Wait a minute, you can't talk like that!

Sit down!

- He's very excitable.
- Damn right I'm excitable!

We're trying to put a
guilty man where he belongs

and somebody's telling us fairy tales

and we're listening!

- Take it easy.
- What do you mean take it easy?

You feel like seeing a proven
murderer walking the streets?

I'll tell you what! Let's give him
his knife back, make it easier for him!

Alright, stop the yelling!

Now does anyone have
any other suggestions?

Excuse me, I would
like to say something.

I've always thought that
in this country a man was

entitled to have an unpopular opinion.

Hey look, let's stick
to the subject, ok pal?

Why did you switch your vote for?

Now look... ain't none of
your fucking business...

He didn't switch his vote, I did.

Would you like me to tell you why?

No, I wouldn't like
you to tell me why...

Well, I'd like to make
myself clear anyway...

If you don't mind.

Do we have to listen to this?

Hey look, the man wants to talk!

Thank you!

This gentleman has been
standing alone against us.

He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.

He just isn't sure.

Well it's not easy to stand alone
against the ridicule of others...

He gambled for support
and I gave it to him.

I respect his motives.

The boy on trial is probably guilty.

But I wanna hear more...

I'm talking here!

You have no right to just walk...

He can't hear you. He never will.

Sit down.

If the speech is over, may we go on?

I think we ought to take a break,
there is a man inside there...

...we should wait for him.

Look I... was pretty excited,
you know what I mean...

I didn't mean to get nasty or anything.

Thank you.

God, I wish I knew some
way we could break this up.

You know in advertising... I told
you I work in an ad agency, didn't I?

Well, we got some pretty
strange people down there.

Well, not strange really,
they just have peculiar ways

of expressing themselves
sometimes, you know what I mean.

It's probably the same
thing in your business.

What is it you do?

I'm a watch maker.

Really?

Finest watchmakers in the world
come from Europe, don't they?

Anyway! Like I was saying...

At the ad agency, when we reach
a point like this in a meeting,

there's always some character
ready with an idea that kills me.

I mean it's the weirdest thing
sometimes, the way they...

...percieve their idea with
some little phrase, you know,

like some count exec would go

"Oh here's an idea, let's
hang around the flag pole,

see if anyone sings the national anthem"

or... "Here's an idea, let's put it on
the bus, see if it gets of at Wall Street"

I mean, it's idiotic
really, but it's funny.

- Excuse me.
- Sure.

So, I wonder if I can
ask you a question.

Are you one of those nation Islam guys?

I only ask cause I've never
met one of you guys before.

I was...

But we didn't exactly see things
eye to eye, you know what I'm saying?

Not really...

But anyway, I was wondering
if you could do me a favour,

maybe take it a little
easier on the old man.

I figure once you get up that high in
years, you know, deserve a little break?

I guess that's a no.

- You a salesman?
- No, architect.

- You know what a soft sell is?
- Yes...

You're pretty good at it!

I've got a different
technique, you know?

- Jokes, drinks, knock'em on their asses.
- Yeah...

I made 57 thousand last
year. Selling marmalade.

That's not bad. I mean, you
know, considerin' the marmalade.

So what are you getting out of this?

Kicks? The boy's guilty pal.

Why don't you let us go home
before we all get sore throats?

What's the difference whether you
get one here or at the ball game.

...That's too... No difference
pal, no difference at all...

Nice bunch of guys!

- Same as any... I guess.
- Yeah.

- You know, that guy with the hat?
- Yeah.

He's a real prince!

And out loud every second
everyone stalks by this kid

...the way he's
talking... is embarassing.

Murderous day!

Will we be much longer?

I don't know.

He's guilty you know! Not
a doubt in the whole world.

Should have been done by now!

Not that I really care, I
mean, beats working... Right?

You think he's innocent?

I don't know.

Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.

Better wrap it up.

Just waisting your time.

Suppose you were the one on trial.

Well... I don't do a lot of supposing...

You know, I'm just the working man.

Let my boss do my supposing.

But if you want I'll try one.

Suppose you talk us all out o' this

and that kid really did stick
that knife into his father.

Alright gentlemen, let's take our seats.

Looks like we'll be here for dinner.

Let's get down to business.

Who wants to start it off?

- I'd like to say something...
- Be quiet...

Excuse me!

Number 6.

Alright, please go
ahead, go ahead, please...

This may be a small point, but anyway...

The boy had a motive for the killing.

The beatings 'n' all, right?

If he didn't do it, who did it?

Who else had a motive?

I mean, that's my point.
You don't go out and just

kill somebody for no reason,
unless you're just plain nuts.

As far as I can see, we're here to
determine whether or not this boy

is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

We're not concerned with anyone else's
motives, that's a job to the police.

Alright... but it can't
help letting the only

motive we know of
creep into our thoughts.

We can't help asking ourselves,
who else might have had a motive.

I mean, this gentleman is
asking a reasonable question:

Somebody killed him, if it
wasn't the boy, who was it?

Modjelewski!

Ohhh, you're talking
about the man I love!

Maybe if you haven't got anything to
add besides jokes, I suggest you listen.

I'm sorry, I was just
letting off steam. Go ahead.

Maybe you can answer me, who
else might have killed the father?

Well, I don't know... I mean...

The father was hardly a model citizen,

we knew that he served a prison term

and that he was an inveterate
gambler and a consistent loser

and he frequented all of the local bars.

Usually after a couple of drinks
he'd get into a fight over a woman

...I wouldn't mind telling that...

He was a mean, cruel,
primitive kind of man.

He couldn't even hold a job for longer
than 6 months in his entire life.

So, hell, he could have been murdered
by anyone of the prison inmates,

or a bookmaker, or somebody he
beat up, or a woman he picked up,

or anyone of those tough guys
that he used to hang around with.

Look, come on man, we know
that the father was a bump,

what's that got to do with anything?

Well, I didn't bring this thing up, the
man asked who else might have killed the man

and I gave an answer.

That gentleman there
asked a direct question.

Well, everybody is a lawyer...

Suppose you answer this for me...

The old man downstairs heard the
kid yell loud: "I'm gonna kill you".

A split second later,
the body hit the floor,

then he saw the kid
running out of the house.

Now what does all that mean to you?

I was wondering how well you could hear
that boy's voice through the ceiling.

He didn't hear it through the ceiling.

His window was open. The
window was open upstairs,

it was a hot night, remember?

The voice was from another
appartment, it's very difficult

to identify a voice, let
alone a voice that's shouting.

He identified it in court.

He picked the boy's voice out
of 5 other voices blindfolded.

That was just an ambitious
district attorney putting on a show.

Look...

The old man knew the boy's voice very well.
They lived in the same house for years.

But to identify the voice
positively from another appartment...

Isn't it possible that he was wrong?

Isn't it possible that he
thought the boy was upstairs

and therefore he just assumed that
the voice he heard was the boy's voice?

I think that's a bit farfetched!

Look, the old man heard
the father's body falling.

Then he saw the boy running out of the house
15 seconds later. Come on, he saw that boy.

What about the woman across the street?
She looked right out into the open window,

saw the kid stabbin' his father, I
mean, come on. Isn't that enough for you?

- Not right now it isn't.
- Oh man!

How do you like this guy, eh?

It's like talking to a dead phone!

The woman saw the kid through the
window of a moving elevated train.

The train had 6 cars and she saw it
through the windows of the last 2 cars.

I mean, she remembered the
most significant details.

I don't see how you can argue with that.

What do you got to say about that?

It doesn't seem right to me.

Well suppose you think about it, eh?

I wonder if there's anyone
here that has an idea

how long it would take a 6 car el train,

travelling at, what, medium speed...

Wait a minute!

This is not a game!

- Who do you think you are?
- Take it easy.

Come on now, sit down!

That's all we need, a fighting here!

Did you see him? The
nerve, the absolute nerve!

Who does he think
he's dealing with here?

Come on now, it's over.
Now let's just sit here...

It's not over, I want an apology!

Alright georgie, apologise, now let's
just hear what the man's got to say.

Thank you.

As I was trying to say, I wonder
if anybody here has an idea

how long it would take an el train

to pass a given point,
going at a medium speed.

What the hell does that
got to do with anything?

Well go on, just take a guess!

I wouldn't have the slightest idea.

You?

I don't know, 10, 12 seconds maybe...

- What's all this for? - Well that
sounds like a pretty good guess...

Anyone else?

That sounds right to me.

Come on, what are the
guessing games for?

You, how about you?

10 seconds, approximately.

Alright, say 10 seconds.
What are you getting at?

Just this!

It takes 10 seconds for a six car
el train to pass a given point.

Let's say that given
point is the open window

of the room where the murder took place.

You can practically reach out that window
and touch the el tracks, couldn't you?

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

Let me ask you another
question gentlemen.

Is there anybody here who has
ever lived next to an el line?

I just finished painting in an
appartment over next to an el line.

- Yeah?
- It took us three days.

- And what was it like?
- What do you mean?

Noisy?

Yeah! Yeah, noisy! We were all punchy about
our business anyway, but yeah, it was noisy.

Yeah, well. When I was very young, I
had an apartment on the second floor

right next to an el line
and I wanna tell you,

when that window is open and the train
is roaring by, the noise is unbearable.

You can't hear yourself think!

OK, you can't hear yourself think,
now will you get to the point?

OK, let's try and tie two
pieces of evidence together.

No 1, the old man in
the apartment downstairs,

he swears that he heard the boy say

"I'm gonna kill you" and
then a split second later

what sounded like a body
falling to the floor.

- One second later, am I right?
- Right.

OK. Now the woman across the street,
she swears that she saw the stabbing

through the windows of
the last two cars of an

elevated train, the last
two cars, am I right?

What are you making here?

Alright, we agreed that it takes
10 seconds for an elevated train

to pass a given point.

If the woman witnessed the stabbing through
the last two cars, then we must assume

that the body fell just as
the train was passing by.

Therefore, it was
roaring by the old man's

window for a full 10
seconds before the body fell.

The old man, now, according
to his own testimony,

hearing the boy say
"I'm going to kill you"

and the body falling, must
have heard that statement

while the el was roaring
by right under his nose!

It's not possible that
he could've heard it.

It's idiotic! Sure he heard it!

You really think so, eh?

The old man said the boy yelled
it out, that's good enough for me.

Well, whatever he
heard, he couldn't have

identified the voice
with that el roaring by.

You're talking about a matter of seconds
here, nobody could be that accurate!

Well, I'll tell ya,
I think the testimony

that can send a human being to
death should be that accurate!

I don't think he could've heard it...

Yeah, maybe he didn't hear
it with all that el noise.

What are you people talking about?

- Well it stands to reason.
- It's crazy!

Why should he lie?
What's he got to gain?

Attention, maybe.

You keep coming up with
these bright sayings.

Why don't you sell'em to the
Reader's Digest, they pay $50.

Why do you keep talking
to him like that, hah?

No, a guy who talks like that to an old man
ought to get stepped on, know what I mean?

You oughta have little respect!

You go ahead, you say whatever
you want! Noone's gonna stop you!

Why do you think the old man might lie?

Well,...

...it's just that I looked
at him for a very long time...

The seam of his jacket
was split under the arm.

Any of you notice it?

I mean, to come into court like that.

He was a very old man with a torn jacket

and he walked very
slowly towards the stand.

He was dragging his left
leg and trying to hide it,

because he was ashamed.

I think I know him
better than anyone here.

This is a quiet, frightened,

insignificant old man who's
been nothing, all his life.

Never had recognition, never
seen his name in the newspapers.

Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.

Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.

You know...

...that's a very sad
thing, to be a nothing.

A man like this needs to be recognised,

to be listened to, to be quoted,
just once. That's very important.

He would find it hard to
recede into the background,

when there's a chance
for him to become a...

Wait a minute, wait a
minute! Are you trying to tell

us that the guy would lie
just to be important once?

He wouldn't... really lie!

But perhaps he'd make
himself believe that

he heard those words and
recognised the boy's face.

That's the most fantastic
story I've heard in my life!

How can you just make
up some stuff like that?

What do you know about it?

Sit down!

You sit down!

Sit down!

Gentlemen, let me remind
you, this case is based on

a reasonable and logical
progression of facts.

Please, let's keep it.

Facts may be covered by the personalities
of the people who present them.

Let's not forget that.

- Would anybody like a cough drop?
- Yeah, I would, thank you.

Say what you like fellas...

I still don't see how anybody
could think this kid's not guilty.

There's one thing I did wanna
talk about for just a minute.

I think that we have proven
that the old man could not

have heard the boy say
"I'm gonna kill you".

But suppose that...

What are you talking about, "prove"?

You haven't proved it at all!
What are you talking about?

But suppose he did hear it.

I mean, how many times have we
all probably used that expression?

Hundreds of times, you know!

I could kill you for that darling, or...

...junior, I'm gonna kill you if
you do that one more time, or...

...kill'em Rocky, kill'em!

You know, it's just a common everyday...
It doesn't mean we're gonna kill someone.

Wait a minute, what are
you trying to give us here?

The phrase was "I'm going
to kill you" and the kid

screamed it out on the top of his lungs.

Don't tell me he didn't mean it!

Anybody who says something like
that, the way he said, they mean it.

Well, gee, I...

...I don't know...

I remember I was arguing with this
guy that I work next to at the bank,

so he called me an
idiot, so I was yelling...

This man is trying to get you to
believe things that just aren't so.

The boy said "I'm going to
kill you" and he did kill him!

Do you really think that he
would shout out something like

that for the whole neighbourhood
to hear? I don't think so.

I think he's too bright for that.

Bright?

He's the common ignorant slob.

- He don't even speak good english.
- He does not even speak good english.

Mr. Foreman...

...I'd like to change
my vote to not guilty.

- Oh you got to be kidding me!
- You heard me.

Are you sure?

Yes, I'm sure.

The vote is 9 to 3 in favour of guilty.

Well, if this isn't the livin' end!

What are you basing it on?

The stories this guy made up?

I mean, this guy... he should
write for Amazing Detective Monthly.

He'd make a fortune!

Now listen, Milwakee, there are facts
there and their right in your face.

And everyone of them says
"This kid killed his old man"!

I mean, his own lawyer, knew right from
the beginning he didn't stand a chance.

His own lawyer!

You could see it!

- Body, he deserves to die!
- Oh, does he?

For your information,
it's happened in the past

that people had been convicted
of murder and then executed

and later, years later, someone comes
along and confesses to the crime.

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