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This is a letter that he wrote to me in
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care of one of my aunts. I
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didn't get it until many years after he
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wrote it to me.
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It says
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Tiffany, I love you. I miss you.
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God, I miss you so very much. I am so
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sorry for everything. I know sorry
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doesn't make anything OK. Nothing will
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ever make what happened OK. Nothing.
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Tiffany, I never, ever meant to hurt you.
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I loved you so much. I would do anything
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to go back to the beginning and undo the
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nightmare of the past.
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Just-- it's just empty words. It's just a
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bunch of garbage.
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We have been waiting for 10
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years for him to receive the sentence
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that he asked for and that he deserved.
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And he's still not gone for good.
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I absolutely do want to be there to see
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it when he is ultimately executed, if it
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happens. So it's not that I want
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to watch him die. I just want that
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sense of closure. I want to see it
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happen. I want to see that he is no
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longer a threat to anyone, that he can't
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hurt anyone anymore, that he's
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gone for good.
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Did you feel like your dad loved you?
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No. I don't feel like my dad ever loved
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me. I don't feel like my dad was ever
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capable of loving anything.
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Ever.
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Did you love him?
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I did. I I really did love my
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dad.
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AndI don't think that feeling ever
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entirely goes away. I know he's done
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terrible things, and I
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feel like he's where he deserves to be.
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But you don't just stop loving someone. I
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had 12 years of my life with this person,
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and though a lot of them were bad, I
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still had some good experiences, too.
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We would go to like the Renaissance fair
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or build sandcastles
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or
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do art or just always something
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fun.
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He was charming. He was handsome. He
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was funny. He was smart. He was
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talented. He was all of those
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things. And I
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at the time, you know, I really admired
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my dad. When I was little.
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My parents had gotten divorced, and
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my mother wanted to move in with her new
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boyfriend. And so
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we would go live with our dad.
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He was so fun to go visit on the
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weekends, and you get this idea when you
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visit a person that they're super fun to
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be around. Well, living with a
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person and visiting a person are two
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totally different things.
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We've never really had, like, a good
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supply of food growing up.
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I remember we had, like, this giant
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bucket of peanut butter, and we would all
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make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches
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'cause that was, like, a staple in our
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house. But this bucket of peanut butter
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was just riddled with ants.
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Dad, there's
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something wrong with this peanut butter.
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That's all we had to eat because you
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wouldn't buy us anything else. It's
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either that or nothing.
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We could either eat it or starve.
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He would always get himself these steaks
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and like at the time, like, you know,
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steak is good. And it smells
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great when you're cooking it. And we
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really wanted steak, but we didn't get
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steak. We got, like, some busted peanut
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butter and toast-type stuff.
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And then the cast iron skillet that he
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would cook it in with all the leftover
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grease and nastiness, we would have to go
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clean it. And it was just, like,
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awful. It was an awful feeling, having to
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go clean up after this fantastic meal
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that you didn't get to partake in.
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His justification is just that, you know,
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he's the man of the house and he earns
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the money, so if he wants to eat a damn
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steak, he's going to eat a damn steak. If
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you want to get a job and get your own
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food, then get it. But this is the food I
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provide for you. That's what you get.
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He always bought us nice. Things though,
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like material objects, the nicest gaming
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consoles, the nicest televisions,
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bicycles.
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Because it showed people that he was
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willing to spend all this money on us and
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that he was such a nice person to his
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kids, when in reality he wasn't providing
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necessities. If we had enough material
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objects, maybe he could convince
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everybody that everything was normal.
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Actually, we moved in with my dad.
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The first year or so living with him,
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I thought my dad was, like, super cool.
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Like, nobody had a parent like my dad.
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Around the age of, like, nine or ten, I
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started smoking cigarettes and stuff.
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Then I remember I thought him providing
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us alcohol and cigarettes just made him
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kind of like the fun, cool dad,
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but... A lot of
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things in our life was very
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outlined and scripted.
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And we knew what our script was and what
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we were supposed to do, how we were
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supposed to act, what we were supposed to
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say and wear and think and feel.
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And our appearance had to be spotless and
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perfect all of the time. You
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know, if we went anywhere as a family,
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our hair had to look a particular way.
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Our outfit had to look a particular way.
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We had to talk and act a particular way.
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Everything was just, like, a show.
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But if it doesn't go the way he planned
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it, then all hell breaks loose, and
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everybody suffers in the house for it.
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One time, it was, like, morning time, and
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I was running late for school. I told you
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to be ready. That means 100% ready!
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And my dad was just so pissed off.
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that we were there for whatever reason.
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We were trying to get out the door. He
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was screaming at us, and he just started
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throwing things at us. You little
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ingrate! Get out! Get out of my sight!
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Get out of my sight right now! Stupid
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little brats!
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It wasn't in his script of expectations.
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Therefore, it just set him off.
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Anything, anything out of the ordinary
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would set him off.
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I just... accepted things the way they
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were. I just felt like I deserved it in
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some way because I was late. I shouldn't
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have been doing what I wasn't supposed to
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be doing, and that was the penalty for
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it. That's what I thought.
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After living with my dad, it
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became very clear that he didn't
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like anybody to question his authority or
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the way that he did things. You just
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accept it, or you would get
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physically assaulted by my dad.
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You like Jason?He will never notice
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you! No, give it back! When I was a kid,
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I did normal kid things. I was loud and I
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was defiant, and I would scream in my
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room and throw things. Hey!
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No, she's taking my diary, it's not my
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fault! He would...
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beat us pretty hard, like hitting us in
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the head and pulling our hair and
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stinging our feet and our legs and
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anything he'd get his hands on. No! No
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Give me this book. Stop!
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Ohh Saying stop crying, stop crying.
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There's no crying allowed in this house.
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He absolutely despised crying. He said
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crying was not allowed in his house.
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which is a really hard thing to avoid
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when you're being beaten. Shut up. Stop.
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Please. And the more we cried, the
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angrier he would get.
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As a child, I just-- I couldn't help it.
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I did. I just cried because I didn't know
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anything else that I could do, and I
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didn't know how to keep that in.
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At that point, because no matter how much
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I tried, I couldn't stop crying. He would
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roll us up on the sheets and tie the
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sheets really tight so that we couldn't
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move, so our arms would be compressed to
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our bodies. Be quiet.
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And I remember not being able to move
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and not being able to breathe and him
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just taking the pillow and smothering me.
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No! No Give me this ball. Yeah,
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do it. It is very
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clear as day in my mind, and screaming at
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me, and the feel of the pillow on my
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face, and then not being able to breathe,
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and the shame that I felt for not being
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able to stop crying.
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I didn't understand why I couldn't do
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what it was that he wanted for me to make
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him happy. Shut up!
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I just felt just so ashamed to cry and
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not have a control over that feeling.
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Shut up.
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My sister and I both became very
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good at hiding our feelings. And to this
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day, yeah, like, I don't...
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I don't really cry or get
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overwhelmed by intense
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feelings like that anymore,
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because it's just been programmed out of
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me. It was beaten into
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me, literally, not to show any
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feelings of sadness, and so you
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just learn to put on a
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face that doesn't show anything.
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My sister and I were inseparable when we
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were kids. We were very close.
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We just took care of each other. We
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looked after each other. We worked kind
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of as a team, make sure one
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didn't get, you know, into trouble
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because he was just so violent. Just her
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presence being there, it helped make
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it OK. And I didn't want to leave her
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alone and she didn't want to leave me
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alone.
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But the longer that we lived with him,
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the more we were afraid.
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My dad worked for Southwestern Bell as a
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telephone man. He would do, like, I
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guess, in-house repairs and repairs on,
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like, the telephone lines. He went to
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work really early in the mornings, and it
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would still be dark outside.
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Some days he would come home
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very late, like 9, 10, 11 o'clock at
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night. Back then, I just accept that it
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is. He had a long day at work and he was
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doing stuff, but in hindsight, like, who
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works that kind of overtime
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as a telephone repairman?
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It's just not realistic.
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When he would leave us alone in the
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house, he would barricade us in the house
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so that we couldn't leave. He would
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nail all the windows shut, and then all
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of the doors locked, deadbolt from the
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outside. There wasn't any
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other way to escape that house. There was
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no other exit. We were
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100% locked in.
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I'm doing this so you girls are safe.
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His excuse was, basically, the world was
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full of bad people trying to get at you
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and that you couldn't trust anybody.
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We really didn't have any exposure to
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anything different.
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If that is all you have ever been shown,
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you have no reason to question it. So
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I just accepted it, that that was okay.
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He warned us about all these awful people
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in the world, but then he was the
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horrible person in the world, and I
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shouldn't have placed my trust in him.
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And that is a really
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hard thing to move past.
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We really liked having friends over for
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sleepovers, and I think our friends
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enjoyed coming over to our house for
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sleepovers, because when he wasn't being
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a monster, like, he was so much fun.
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We would sit there and pretend like we
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were at a rock concert or something.
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Like, we would have music going on in the
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background and, like, pretend like we
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were in a music video. He was very
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involved in our dress-up moments.
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He liked to put us in outfits that
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were very suggestive, like little
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cropped halter tops that showed my
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stomach and, like,
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shorts, like the Daisy Duke-style
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shorts and
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dresses that barely covered anything at
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all.
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At the time, it was a lot of fun doing
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it, but in reflection, he dressed us up.
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I mean, we basically looked like little
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prostitutes.
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We would just jump up and down, just
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acting silly like we were rock stars or
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whatever. And my dad
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definitely was always somewhere watching.
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My dad would religiously make us hot
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chocolate. We would all be sitting in the
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living room, and he would bring us hot
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chocolate to drink before
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we went to bed.
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My sister told us all the time, Don't
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drink the hot chocolate. It tastes funny.
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And it did taste funny. I remember that,
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but I just didn't think anything of it. I
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thought it was some, like, cheap, nasty,
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awkward end of hot chocolate. We would
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drink it, and consistently, shortly
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thereafter, we would all get quite tired
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and go to sleep.
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The next thing you know, it's morning.
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We were being drugged.
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You don't really question the fact that
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you don't remember anything from the
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night. You just assume that you were
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sleeping the whole time.
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Like, I feel like somebody came in and
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wiped away a pretty good portion of my
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memory because that's the whole point of
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those drugs. It's so that you don't
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recall what happened.
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It's just so horrible that it's not
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something you particularly want to
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remember. Like, there's a reason why your
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body tries to block out that stuff.
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Given the nature of the fact that he
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drugged us quite often, you don't
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remember exactly what happened, but you
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know bits and pieces.
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Because that's all I ever remembered was
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bits and pieces of things that happened.
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And it's hard sometimes to make sense of
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those bits and pieces.
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I was in and out of consciousness,
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but I rememberthat I was
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totally naked and that he was doingstuff.
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I remember waking up to that happening,
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and I pretended to be asleep
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because I was afraid.
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I was afraid that if he knew I was awake,
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something bad would happen. That maybe if
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he didn't know that I knew it was
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happening,I would be safer. I was afraid
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that if he knew that I knew what was
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happening, he would see me as a threat to
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him.
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And I didn't know what to do about it,
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'cause he's-- he was bigger and stronger
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than us, and he was my dad.
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So I just pretended to be
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asleep.
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I didn't want to tell anybody about it
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because I was ashamed that it happened. I
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just really desperately wanted it not to
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be true.
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So I just tried not to think about
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it.
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I thought that if I took the brunt of it,
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she would be okay. My dad
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definitely treated me
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like I was the prettier
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one. the smarter one, the better one,
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and he treated my sister like she
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was some kind of second-class citizen.
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I didn't want that to happen to her. I
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didn't feel like she should have to deal
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with that, too.
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I can only imagine how many times that it
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happened that I don't remember what
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happened. I thought that maybe some way I
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deserved it. My whole life, I
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always just felt guilty.
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Every time I got any kind of assault from
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my dad, I just felt guilty because there
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was probably something I did to deserve
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it. All I ever wanted to do was
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be this ideal
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image child that he had
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prescribed myself to be. When anytime I
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didn't live up to that, I just felt
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guilty and that I deserved to be punished
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for it.
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Our teachers and stuff had observed
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bruises on my sister and I and the fact
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that we never had food when we came to
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school, and they were concerned for our
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welfare. And CPS had been
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contacted. My dad told us they were
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coming. And the story
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that he built in our minds about what it
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would be like to be taken by CPS was
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terrifying. They were just, like, these
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evil people that come in and try and
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break up people's families and
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steal you away from your parents and give
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you to foster care, where people are
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horrible and mean to you, and you
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guys will be separated, and I would never
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see my sister again. She was my rock at
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the time. That's all we had in life. We
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had each other. I didn't want to be
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all alone in the world. All
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right, listen up, girls. And so he
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told us what to say. If they ask you this
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type of question, tell them this.
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So we practiced our story as a family,
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what we were gonna say. This woman who's
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coming, she's gonna pretend to be your
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friend, but she's not. So you
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have to be perfect.
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Understand. Perfect. Yeah.
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OK. Understand. Yeah. OK,
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good.
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My dad had put, like, some
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Stew on the stove so that the house would
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smell very aromatic and welcoming.
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We dressed in very nice clothes. We
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had our faces plastered on with
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smiles, and from the outside looking in,
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I think it was pretty easy to say that it
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was a very healthy household,
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and he did a lot of the talking.
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These are my daughters. This is Ann
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Bernard and Tiffany. Hello. Hi,
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Amber. Hi, Tiffany. Can I get you
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something to drink?Tea, water, coffee,
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anything?No, I'm fine, thank you. Well,
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if you change your mind, you just let me
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know. Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to
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come out today, you know, when clearly
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everything is so perfect in our house.
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He was a really good actor. I
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told the lady pretty much what my dad
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had told me to tell them, that everything
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was good at home, that we got proper
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meals, and we were loved and taken care
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of, and it was very scripted.
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You always have clean clothes to wear.
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Yes.
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Does your dad get you to school on time?
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Yeah. We put on
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a really good show about everything just
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being spectacular at the house. Well,
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I think that's all I need to know. There
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was no reason for them to look beyond
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what they were seeing. Nice to meet you,
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girls. And
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nothing ever came of it. Okay, great.
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I'll show you the way out. All
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right. Girls, say goodbye. Bye.
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We were just left to live with this
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person because he was a nice
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person on the outside.
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I just started feeling so hopeless, like
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there was no way out of the
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situation that that we were in, that it
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was never gonna get better, that it would
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always be that way or worse.
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I think it was around
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that time period
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that I started to become
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suicidal.
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That I just didn't want to live anymore
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because I just didn't feel
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like I was cared about or loved by
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anybody.
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I had locked myself in the bathroom with
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knives many times, and I just wasn't
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brave enough to take to cut myself.
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And so I was at home,
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and our dad had left us unattended. I had
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seen things on television about all these
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rock stars who OD on pills. So I found
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pills.
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I took them all.
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Well, what did you go and do?
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My dad basically just gave me this pep
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talk about don't be depressed about life
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anymore and just don't ever do that again
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type thing. I feel
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so bad. I
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don't feel bad.
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Now get up. It's time for dinner.
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I think what was more devastating than
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the feeling of leading up to that point
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was the feeling I had after I realized
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that he just didn't care. He
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just just didn't seem to care at all that
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I tried to kill myself.
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And I remember telling my sister, what is
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there worth living for anymore when your
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own father doesn't care if you ever die?
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She didn't want me to die. She wanted
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me to be around. She didn't want to
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be alone with him.
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Stop! I just told you what needs to
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happen. He just got angry. I can't
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sticker with these kids. It's like, well,
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if you don't take them now, you're never
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gonna see them again.
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I just wanted to see... if Amber and
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Tiffany could come visit for a little
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while. My dad had called my grandmother
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that summer and asked
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her if my sister and I could come visit.
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It's just-- it's not a good time for them
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to be here. He wanted to get married to
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who-- the woman who became our stepmom,
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and he didn't want us to be there for it
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so that he could have, you know, the
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honeymoon phase with her without us
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getting in the way. And
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my grandmother told him, you know, it's
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just not a good time right now. I just
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told you what needs to happen. No, I
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can't stick her with these kids. That set
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him off. It's a classic trigger for him.
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He expected her to say yes, and she said
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now is not a good time. So he just got
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angry and said, well, if you don't take
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them now, you're never going to see them
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again. Damn it!
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And so very shortly after that, we went
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to go see her.
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We left for California with a
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singular suitcase, had a couple
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changes of clothes, and that was it.
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We were thinking we were gonna go back in
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a month.
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And we never did.
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Tiffany, I was talking with your dad. How
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would you feel if Amber came to live with
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me?
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My aunt had been talking to my dad about
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00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480
having my sister go live with her for a
541
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240
school semester because Amber was
542
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360
struggling at school, and I
543
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360
was so afraid to go be alone with
544
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,160
him. Please don't do this.
545
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
You'll be fine. No, you won't. I won't be
546
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440
fine. I did not know how to be
547
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,240
strong without her to help me. I would
548
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,120
no longer have the extra person in
549
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040
my life to rely on for the really bad
550
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,640
days.
551
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,640
I was really just kind of afraid that he
552
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
might kill me if we were alone, and that
553
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,720
was terrifying. I was in
554
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
such a panic. I burst into tears, and I
555
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480
told her everything. He
556
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,840
hurts me, and...
557
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,600
And he's angry all the time. He hurts us.
558
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760
I said, you know, please don't do this.
559
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Don't make me stay alone with him. He
560
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,840
hurts us and he's molesting me and I
561
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,400
don't want to be alone with him. It's OK.
562
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,000
Well, my sister was there because we have
563
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840
each other. Don't take her away from me.
564
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Don't make me be alone with him.
565
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,800
I was afraid that she wouldn't believe me
566
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,840
because that was his sister. Tiffany,
567
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,520
are you saying he touches you?Yes.
568
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Please don't take Amber away from me. How
569
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,160
long?since we moved home. Oh,
570
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,440
God. She promised to do
571
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,200
everything she could to prevent that
572
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960
situation from happening. I'm so sorry.
573
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Oh, I should have known.
574
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680
That's when my aunt contacted my
575
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,320
grandmother, and my grandmother talked to
576
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,280
my sister, and that's when my sister came
577
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200
forth and told everything about what was
578
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,960
happening to her, to my grandmother.
579
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840
I remember being alone with my sister
580
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
and just her crying, saying, I didn't
581
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,840
know it was happening to you, too. Yeah,
582
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,440
he did it to me, too.
583
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Neither one of us knew about the other
584
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760
being sexually assaulted by him. She just
585
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,120
felt... so guilty. I
586
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,880
didn't want to say anything because I
587
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200
thought if I kept quiet, he wouldn't
588
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680
touch you. She just kept telling me I
589
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760
thought it was only me. I thought if it
590
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
was just me, he wouldn't do this to you.
591
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080
I'm so sorry I couldn't protect
592
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,200
you. It just hit me like a a ton of
593
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200
bricks that day, finding out that
594
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,960
the person at the time that you most
595
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080
deeply care about in your life and that
596
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,240
you are trying to keep safe is no longer
597
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,000
safe. In spite of your best
598
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,840
efforts and sacrifice to ensure that
599
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
safety, it is devastating.
600
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:51,280
He didn't actually... serve any long
601
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480
time jail sentence, maybe like a few
602
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200
weeks or months. And yeah, we lived in
603
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040
constant fear that he was going to show
604
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,080
up at the door someday,
605
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
that he would retaliate against us.
606
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,640
We didn't have any contact with him after
607
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,680
that at all. We were so afraid of his
608
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,480
retaliation.
609
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080
My sister and I did not continue to stay
610
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640
close. She ran away from home
611
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,760
when I was 15. She said she didn't
612
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600
like walls being around her. She didn't
613
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,080
want to live with my grandmother because
614
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600
my grandmother had rules. My
615
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640
sister didn't want rules. She didn't want
616
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040
structure. I would hear from her every
617
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,840
couple years or so here and there. And I
618
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,800
worried about her.
619
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,880
I don't think I really believed it at
620
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,760
first. It's one of those moments
621
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,720
where you kind of do a double take. What
622
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,560
do you mean dad's a serial killer?
623
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,880
I hadn't really had much contact with my
624
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,880
sister. I received a phone
625
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,800
call from her. Hello?And it was
626
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,200
very strange that she called me because
627
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,880
she never really called me for anything.
628
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200
So I answered the phone and my
629
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
sister just
630
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,800
told me no
631
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,680
real. Sugar coating on
632
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
it, she just said, hey,
633
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120
have you watched news or something like
634
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,840
that?And I said no.
635
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
And she was like, oh, well, Dad's a
636
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200
serial killer. That's exactly how she
637
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,400
said it. Dad's a serial killer.
638
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520
I was just like, you know, OK,
639
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,280
what do you mean Dad's a serial killer?
640
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,760
Well, she said, you know, it's all over
641
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,280
the television. He was arrested
642
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,240
on suspicion of murder of all these women
643
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,280
in Houston. I got off the phone with her,
644
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,280
and sure enough... The man now
645
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600
charged with the crime?41-year-old
646
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Anthony Allen Shore.
647
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,760
It was all true. They say Shore
648
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,800
confessed to the four killings, showed no
649
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160
remorse. Each victim was strangled with a
650
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,000
ligature wire.
651
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720
Shore is now charged with four sex
652
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,240
murders dating back 17 years. The
653
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,440
killings occurred over a nine-year span,
654
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,320
and authorities fear Shore killed others
655
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,960
as well.
656
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480
It was very surreal. It was like having
657
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,400
kind of like an out-of-body experience. I
658
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560
wish I could share with you guys what he
659
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520
told us. But it's unspeakable. He is
660
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960
not remorseful. He is an evil man. You
661
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
hear the words and see what's going on,
662
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440
but you just feel so disconnected from it
663
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360
because it just doesn't seem consistent
664
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440
with reality. I just--
665
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,840
I just shut down.
666
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Yeah, these are all the women that he
667
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,320
murdered.
668
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640
And children, they varied
669
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160
between the ages of nine and 21.
670
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320
You look at these faces and
671
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,320
it's devastating. It's very
672
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,320
upsetting because they were so young that
673
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,240
they never had the opportunity to be
674
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,600
adults.
675
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,240
That could have been us. This could have
676
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,960
been, this could have been my sister and
677
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,880
I easily. They all had dark
678
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,040
hair and dark eyes and
679
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,320
very young
680
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,040
features. He seemed to be drawn to little
681
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
girls that looked like
682
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,880
my sister and I.
683
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,720
All of the murders occurred during the
684
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,560
period of time we were living with him.
685
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,480
Was he trying to find people that looked
686
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,280
like us because he wanted to kill
687
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,840
us?That's something that's occurred to
688
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,440
me. And if that was the case, how badly
689
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
did he want to kill us?How long would it
690
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,680
have been before he would have strangled
691
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
my sister or I to death?It is a
692
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,200
terrifying thought. Would it have been
693
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440
another month, another year when I made
694
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,120
it to adulthood?It's
695
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120
terrifying. I am thankful to be alive
696
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,120
because. That could
697
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,360
have been either one of us.
698
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,080
And I try to
699
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,360
keep that in mind every time
700
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200
I feel down and out about it, because I
701
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,080
don't feel like you ever
702
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,880
just get over something like that.
703
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,480
After finding out about it,All those
704
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
memories just came flooding back to me.
705
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160
Things that just seemed unimportant just
706
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,200
became so relevant.
707
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,000
When we lived in Houston, we had this
708
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960
van. The van had no seats
709
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200
in the back. He had, like,
710
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,960
the cliche, stereotypical
711
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,880
serial killer van, and I rode around in
712
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,480
it. I remember seeing this girl walking
713
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,880
along. And there wasn't anybody around. I
714
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,480
just picked up and they were in the lane
715
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
and nobody saw . My
716
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040
dad would pick up hitchhikers, and I just
717
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,600
thought it was so strange that my dad
718
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,280
would pick up a stranger off the side of
719
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,760
the road and just let them ride in our
720
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480
car. So who
721
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
knows?I mean, I can only imagine what he
722
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,960
was doing. I was
723
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640
driving around. I saw this
724
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,120
girl. Why not?I just said, Hey, you about
725
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,520
to go ahead. Jump right in.
726
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680
There were all these signs that something
727
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,240
wasn't right, and nobody,
728
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,960
nobody did anything about it.
729
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,400
He had everybody convinced that he was
730
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,800
this fantastic, wonderful person,
731
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,760
neighbors and things, saying, Oh, he was
732
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000
just such a nice guy. We couldn't see it.
733
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,880
When they said that he was going to get
734
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,800
the death penalty, it was almost a relief
735
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,760
because I thought, finally, he'll
736
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,320
be gone. You know, we'll all get closure.
737
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,520
We won't ever have to worry about what
738
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,320
he's going to say or do next or him
739
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160
hurting anybody else or manipulating
740
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,120
anybody else.
741
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,280
He'll just be gone. And
742
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640
it's frustrating. You know,
743
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,760
I... I've been counting
744
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,840
down the days for 10 years now,
745
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,440
waiting for that
746
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,360
closure. And it doesn't escape
747
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,240
me that I do have good memories of my
748
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,480
dad, and he wasn't always a horrible
749
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120
person, but he did very horrible,
750
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,160
unforgivable things. He asked for death
751
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,080
row. He deserves death row.
752
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,320
So now it's just a waiting game.
753
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,160
When he is finally gone, I think I'll be
754
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,440
able to really breathe again.
755
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,560
But I haven't heard from my sister in
756
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,200
years. I don't know if she's alive. I
757
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,320
don't know if she's dead. I don't know if
758
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,040
she's in prison or if she got her life
759
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480
together. I don't know. I don't know what
760
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,160
happened to her.
761
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,760
She didn't want to be found,
762
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680
so we lost her.
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