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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,820 This is a letter that he wrote to me in 2 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:13,620 care of one of my aunts. I 3 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:15,940 didn't get it until many years after he 4 00:00:15,940 --> 00:00:16,740 wrote it to me. 5 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:22,340 It says 6 00:00:23,860 --> 00:00:26,640 Tiffany, I love you. I miss you. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,480 God, I miss you so very much. I am so 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,480 sorry for everything. I know sorry 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,480 doesn't make anything OK. Nothing will 10 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:34,760 ever make what happened OK. Nothing. 11 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:38,240 Tiffany, I never, ever meant to hurt you. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,640 I loved you so much. I would do anything 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,280 to go back to the beginning and undo the 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,320 nightmare of the past. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,840 Just-- it's just empty words. It's just a 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,800 bunch of garbage. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,320 We have been waiting for 10 18 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:10,880 years for him to receive the sentence 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,280 that he asked for and that he deserved. 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,640 And he's still not gone for good. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 I absolutely do want to be there to see 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 it when he is ultimately executed, if it 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,920 happens. So it's not that I want 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,680 to watch him die. I just want that 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,280 sense of closure. I want to see it 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,240 happen. I want to see that he is no 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,000 longer a threat to anyone, that he can't 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,960 hurt anyone anymore, that he's 29 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:39,840 gone for good. 30 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Did you feel like your dad loved you? 31 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,000 No. I don't feel like my dad ever loved 32 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 me. I don't feel like my dad was ever 33 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,320 capable of loving anything. 34 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Ever. 35 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,920 Did you love him? 36 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,880 I did. I I really did love my 37 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,280 dad. 38 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,440 AndI don't think that feeling ever 39 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,160 entirely goes away. I know he's done 40 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,120 terrible things, and I 41 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,040 feel like he's where he deserves to be. 42 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,400 But you don't just stop loving someone. I 43 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 had 12 years of my life with this person, 44 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,360 and though a lot of them were bad, I 45 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,320 still had some good experiences, too. 46 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,560 We would go to like the Renaissance fair 47 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:31,440 or build sandcastles 48 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,240 or 49 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,880 do art or just always something 50 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,440 fun. 51 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 He was charming. He was handsome. He 52 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 was funny. He was smart. He was 53 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,680 talented. He was all of those 54 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 things. And I 55 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,280 at the time, you know, I really admired 56 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,760 my dad. When I was little. 57 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,320 My parents had gotten divorced, and 58 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,160 my mother wanted to move in with her new 59 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,960 boyfriend. And so 60 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,800 we would go live with our dad. 61 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,400 He was so fun to go visit on the 62 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,960 weekends, and you get this idea when you 63 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,880 visit a person that they're super fun to 64 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,280 be around. Well, living with a 65 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,760 person and visiting a person are two 66 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,960 totally different things. 67 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,760 We've never really had, like, a good 68 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,360 supply of food growing up. 69 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,280 I remember we had, like, this giant 70 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,080 bucket of peanut butter, and we would all 71 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,600 make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches 72 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,960 'cause that was, like, a staple in our 73 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,680 house. But this bucket of peanut butter 74 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,440 was just riddled with ants. 75 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,720 Dad, there's 76 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,160 something wrong with this peanut butter. 77 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 That's all we had to eat because you 78 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 wouldn't buy us anything else. It's 79 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,560 either that or nothing. 80 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:35,400 We could either eat it or starve. 81 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,480 He would always get himself these steaks 82 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,320 and like at the time, like, you know, 83 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 steak is good. And it smells 84 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,040 great when you're cooking it. And we 85 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,800 really wanted steak, but we didn't get 86 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 steak. We got, like, some busted peanut 87 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,800 butter and toast-type stuff. 88 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,480 And then the cast iron skillet that he 89 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,480 would cook it in with all the leftover 90 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,400 grease and nastiness, we would have to go 91 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,640 clean it. And it was just, like, 92 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,880 awful. It was an awful feeling, having to 93 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,000 go clean up after this fantastic meal 94 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,360 that you didn't get to partake in. 95 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,960 His justification is just that, you know, 96 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,520 he's the man of the house and he earns 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,080 the money, so if he wants to eat a damn 98 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,160 steak, he's going to eat a damn steak. If 99 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,680 you want to get a job and get your own 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,280 food, then get it. But this is the food I 101 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,280 provide for you. That's what you get. 102 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,880 He always bought us nice. Things though, 103 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,840 like material objects, the nicest gaming 104 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,080 consoles, the nicest televisions, 105 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,600 bicycles. 106 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Because it showed people that he was 107 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,600 willing to spend all this money on us and 108 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,560 that he was such a nice person to his 109 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,120 kids, when in reality he wasn't providing 110 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,880 necessities. If we had enough material 111 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,080 objects, maybe he could convince 112 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,680 everybody that everything was normal. 113 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Actually, we moved in with my dad. 114 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,320 The first year or so living with him, 115 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,240 I thought my dad was, like, super cool. 116 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,240 Like, nobody had a parent like my dad. 117 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Around the age of, like, nine or ten, I 118 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,760 started smoking cigarettes and stuff. 119 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,240 Then I remember I thought him providing 120 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,680 us alcohol and cigarettes just made him 121 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,360 kind of like the fun, cool dad, 122 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 but... A lot of 123 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,040 things in our life was very 124 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,800 outlined and scripted. 125 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,520 And we knew what our script was and what 126 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,800 we were supposed to do, how we were 127 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,960 supposed to act, what we were supposed to 128 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,440 say and wear and think and feel. 129 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 And our appearance had to be spotless and 130 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,880 perfect all of the time. You 131 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,560 know, if we went anywhere as a family, 132 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,960 our hair had to look a particular way. 133 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Our outfit had to look a particular way. 134 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,160 We had to talk and act a particular way. 135 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Everything was just, like, a show. 136 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,600 But if it doesn't go the way he planned 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,720 it, then all hell breaks loose, and 138 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,520 everybody suffers in the house for it. 139 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,960 One time, it was, like, morning time, and 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,920 I was running late for school. I told you 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,360 to be ready. That means 100% ready! 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,640 And my dad was just so pissed off. 143 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,440 that we were there for whatever reason. 144 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,280 We were trying to get out the door. He 145 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,840 was screaming at us, and he just started 146 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,920 throwing things at us. You little 147 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,040 ingrate! Get out! Get out of my sight! 148 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Get out of my sight right now! Stupid 149 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,240 little brats! 150 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,200 It wasn't in his script of expectations. 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,440 Therefore, it just set him off. 152 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,240 Anything, anything out of the ordinary 153 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,960 would set him off. 154 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,880 I just... accepted things the way they 155 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,400 were. I just felt like I deserved it in 156 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,720 some way because I was late. I shouldn't 157 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,080 have been doing what I wasn't supposed to 158 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,640 be doing, and that was the penalty for 159 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,440 it. That's what I thought. 160 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,040 After living with my dad, it 161 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,960 became very clear that he didn't 162 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,560 like anybody to question his authority or 163 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,240 the way that he did things. You just 164 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,680 accept it, or you would get 165 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,360 physically assaulted by my dad. 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,200 You like Jason?He will never notice 167 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,440 you! No, give it back! When I was a kid, 168 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,760 I did normal kid things. I was loud and I 169 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,080 was defiant, and I would scream in my 170 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 room and throw things. Hey! 171 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,400 No, she's taking my diary, it's not my 172 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,960 fault! He would... 173 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,040 beat us pretty hard, like hitting us in 174 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,440 the head and pulling our hair and 175 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,960 stinging our feet and our legs and 176 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,320 anything he'd get his hands on. No! No 177 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Give me this book. Stop! 178 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Ohh Saying stop crying, stop crying. 179 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,000 There's no crying allowed in this house. 180 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,360 He absolutely despised crying. He said 181 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,040 crying was not allowed in his house. 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,920 which is a really hard thing to avoid 183 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,600 when you're being beaten. Shut up. Stop. 184 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Please. And the more we cried, the 185 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,880 angrier he would get. 186 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:50,080 As a child, I just-- I couldn't help it. 187 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,440 I did. I just cried because I didn't know 188 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,000 anything else that I could do, and I 189 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,440 didn't know how to keep that in. 190 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,440 At that point, because no matter how much 191 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,360 I tried, I couldn't stop crying. He would 192 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,680 roll us up on the sheets and tie the 193 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:05,320 sheets really tight so that we couldn't 194 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 move, so our arms would be compressed to 195 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,000 our bodies. Be quiet. 196 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,040 And I remember not being able to move 197 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,440 and not being able to breathe and him 198 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 just taking the pillow and smothering me. 199 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,120 No! No Give me this ball. Yeah, 200 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,720 do it. It is very 201 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,520 clear as day in my mind, and screaming at 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,880 me, and the feel of the pillow on my 203 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,200 face, and then not being able to breathe, 204 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,160 and the shame that I felt for not being 205 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,080 able to stop crying. 206 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,640 I didn't understand why I couldn't do 207 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,200 what it was that he wanted for me to make 208 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,760 him happy. Shut up! 209 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,360 I just felt just so ashamed to cry and 210 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,000 not have a control over that feeling. 211 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Shut up. 212 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,200 My sister and I both became very 213 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 good at hiding our feelings. And to this 214 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,320 day, yeah, like, I don't... 215 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 I don't really cry or get 216 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,320 overwhelmed by intense 217 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,480 feelings like that anymore, 218 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,520 because it's just been programmed out of 219 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,360 me. It was beaten into 220 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,200 me, literally, not to show any 221 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,160 feelings of sadness, and so you 222 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,800 just learn to put on a 223 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,400 face that doesn't show anything. 224 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,800 My sister and I were inseparable when we 225 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,400 were kids. We were very close. 226 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,120 We just took care of each other. We 227 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,320 looked after each other. We worked kind 228 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,160 of as a team, make sure one 229 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 didn't get, you know, into trouble 230 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 because he was just so violent. Just her 231 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 presence being there, it helped make 232 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,280 it OK. And I didn't want to leave her 233 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,640 alone and she didn't want to leave me 234 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,000 alone. 235 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,680 But the longer that we lived with him, 236 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,280 the more we were afraid. 237 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,520 My dad worked for Southwestern Bell as a 238 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 telephone man. He would do, like, I 239 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,480 guess, in-house repairs and repairs on, 240 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,120 like, the telephone lines. He went to 241 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,280 work really early in the mornings, and it 242 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,480 would still be dark outside. 243 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Some days he would come home 244 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,520 very late, like 9, 10, 11 o'clock at 245 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 night. Back then, I just accept that it 246 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 is. He had a long day at work and he was 247 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 doing stuff, but in hindsight, like, who 248 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,280 works that kind of overtime 249 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,360 as a telephone repairman? 250 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,440 It's just not realistic. 251 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,800 When he would leave us alone in the 252 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,760 house, he would barricade us in the house 253 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,720 so that we couldn't leave. He would 254 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,880 nail all the windows shut, and then all 255 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,120 of the doors locked, deadbolt from the 256 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,880 outside. There wasn't any 257 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,960 other way to escape that house. There was 258 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,840 no other exit. We were 259 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,560 100% locked in. 260 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 I'm doing this so you girls are safe. 261 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,080 His excuse was, basically, the world was 262 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,880 full of bad people trying to get at you 263 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,480 and that you couldn't trust anybody. 264 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,640 We really didn't have any exposure to 265 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,680 anything different. 266 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 If that is all you have ever been shown, 267 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,720 you have no reason to question it. So 268 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,680 I just accepted it, that that was okay. 269 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,800 He warned us about all these awful people 270 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 in the world, but then he was the 271 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,680 horrible person in the world, and I 272 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,080 shouldn't have placed my trust in him. 273 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,040 And that is a really 274 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,080 hard thing to move past. 275 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,160 We really liked having friends over for 276 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,680 sleepovers, and I think our friends 277 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,200 enjoyed coming over to our house for 278 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,600 sleepovers, because when he wasn't being 279 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,160 a monster, like, he was so much fun. 280 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,160 We would sit there and pretend like we 281 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,480 were at a rock concert or something. 282 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Like, we would have music going on in the 283 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,960 background and, like, pretend like we 284 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,840 were in a music video. He was very 285 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,120 involved in our dress-up moments. 286 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,640 He liked to put us in outfits that 287 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 were very suggestive, like little 288 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,800 cropped halter tops that showed my 289 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,520 stomach and, like, 290 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 shorts, like the Daisy Duke-style 291 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,360 shorts and 292 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,200 dresses that barely covered anything at 293 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,520 all. 294 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,640 At the time, it was a lot of fun doing 295 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 it, but in reflection, he dressed us up. 296 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,480 I mean, we basically looked like little 297 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,280 prostitutes. 298 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,240 We would just jump up and down, just 299 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,880 acting silly like we were rock stars or 300 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,680 whatever. And my dad 301 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,120 definitely was always somewhere watching. 302 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,840 My dad would religiously make us hot 303 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,760 chocolate. We would all be sitting in the 304 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,520 living room, and he would bring us hot 305 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,000 chocolate to drink before 306 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,760 we went to bed. 307 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,760 My sister told us all the time, Don't 308 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,280 drink the hot chocolate. It tastes funny. 309 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,400 And it did taste funny. I remember that, 310 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,240 but I just didn't think anything of it. I 311 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,680 thought it was some, like, cheap, nasty, 312 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,080 awkward end of hot chocolate. We would 313 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,480 drink it, and consistently, shortly 314 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 thereafter, we would all get quite tired 315 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,520 and go to sleep. 316 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,680 The next thing you know, it's morning. 317 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,960 We were being drugged. 318 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,640 You don't really question the fact that 319 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,920 you don't remember anything from the 320 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,840 night. You just assume that you were 321 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,960 sleeping the whole time. 322 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,440 Like, I feel like somebody came in and 323 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,320 wiped away a pretty good portion of my 324 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,040 memory because that's the whole point of 325 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,480 those drugs. It's so that you don't 326 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,440 recall what happened. 327 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:36,700 It's just so horrible that it's not 328 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:38,180 something you particularly want to 329 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:39,740 remember. Like, there's a reason why your 330 00:18:39,740 --> 00:18:41,500 body tries to block out that stuff. 331 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,200 Given the nature of the fact that he 332 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,520 drugged us quite often, you don't 333 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,960 remember exactly what happened, but you 334 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 know bits and pieces. 335 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,200 Because that's all I ever remembered was 336 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,600 bits and pieces of things that happened. 337 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,600 And it's hard sometimes to make sense of 338 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,800 those bits and pieces. 339 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,280 I was in and out of consciousness, 340 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 but I rememberthat I was 341 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,160 totally naked and that he was doingstuff. 342 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,880 I remember waking up to that happening, 343 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,160 and I pretended to be asleep 344 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,760 because I was afraid. 345 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,600 I was afraid that if he knew I was awake, 346 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,880 something bad would happen. That maybe if 347 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600 he didn't know that I knew it was 348 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,480 happening,I would be safer. I was afraid 349 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840 that if he knew that I knew what was 350 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,160 happening, he would see me as a threat to 351 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,520 him. 352 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,960 And I didn't know what to do about it, 353 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,640 'cause he's-- he was bigger and stronger 354 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,640 than us, and he was my dad. 355 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,520 So I just pretended to be 356 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,080 asleep. 357 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,920 I didn't want to tell anybody about it 358 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,160 because I was ashamed that it happened. I 359 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,120 just really desperately wanted it not to 360 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:50,800 be true. 361 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,080 So I just tried not to think about 362 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,280 it. 363 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,440 I thought that if I took the brunt of it, 364 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,320 she would be okay. My dad 365 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,200 definitely treated me 366 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,960 like I was the prettier 367 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,520 one. the smarter one, the better one, 368 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,880 and he treated my sister like she 369 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,040 was some kind of second-class citizen. 370 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,880 I didn't want that to happen to her. I 371 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,240 didn't feel like she should have to deal 372 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,120 with that, too. 373 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:40,580 I can only imagine how many times that it 374 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:43,020 happened that I don't remember what 375 00:21:43,020 --> 00:21:46,020 happened. I thought that maybe some way I 376 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:49,020 deserved it. My whole life, I 377 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:50,900 always just felt guilty. 378 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Every time I got any kind of assault from 379 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,120 my dad, I just felt guilty because there 380 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:58,760 was probably something I did to deserve 381 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,440 it. All I ever wanted to do was 382 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000 be this ideal 383 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,680 image child that he had 384 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640 prescribed myself to be. When anytime I 385 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,080 didn't live up to that, I just felt 386 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,560 guilty and that I deserved to be punished 387 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:13,840 for it. 388 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Our teachers and stuff had observed 389 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,120 bruises on my sister and I and the fact 390 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,920 that we never had food when we came to 391 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,320 school, and they were concerned for our 392 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 welfare. And CPS had been 393 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,680 contacted. My dad told us they were 394 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480 coming. And the story 395 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880 that he built in our minds about what it 396 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,120 would be like to be taken by CPS was 397 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,520 terrifying. They were just, like, these 398 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400 evil people that come in and try and 399 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,520 break up people's families and 400 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,080 steal you away from your parents and give 401 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320 you to foster care, where people are 402 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,000 horrible and mean to you, and you 403 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080 guys will be separated, and I would never 404 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,960 see my sister again. She was my rock at 405 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,920 the time. That's all we had in life. We 406 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,400 had each other. I didn't want to be 407 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,080 all alone in the world. All 408 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:28,160 right, listen up, girls. And so he 409 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,040 told us what to say. If they ask you this 410 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,720 type of question, tell them this. 411 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,480 So we practiced our story as a family, 412 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,640 what we were gonna say. This woman who's 413 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,400 coming, she's gonna pretend to be your 414 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,920 friend, but she's not. So you 415 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,520 have to be perfect. 416 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,520 Understand. Perfect. Yeah. 417 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 OK. Understand. Yeah. OK, 418 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:52,320 good. 419 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,920 My dad had put, like, some 420 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Stew on the stove so that the house would 421 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 smell very aromatic and welcoming. 422 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520 We dressed in very nice clothes. We 423 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,040 had our faces plastered on with 424 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,640 smiles, and from the outside looking in, 425 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,040 I think it was pretty easy to say that it 426 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 was a very healthy household, 427 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,640 and he did a lot of the talking. 428 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,920 These are my daughters. This is Ann 429 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680 Bernard and Tiffany. Hello. Hi, 430 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Amber. Hi, Tiffany. Can I get you 431 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320 something to drink?Tea, water, coffee, 432 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,360 anything?No, I'm fine, thank you. Well, 433 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,560 if you change your mind, you just let me 434 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800 know. Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to 435 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,680 come out today, you know, when clearly 436 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,920 everything is so perfect in our house. 437 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,320 He was a really good actor. I 438 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,280 told the lady pretty much what my dad 439 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,720 had told me to tell them, that everything 440 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,360 was good at home, that we got proper 441 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:54,280 meals, and we were loved and taken care 442 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,240 of, and it was very scripted. 443 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,200 You always have clean clothes to wear. 444 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,000 Yes. 445 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,440 Does your dad get you to school on time? 446 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Yeah. We put on 447 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,480 a really good show about everything just 448 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,880 being spectacular at the house. Well, 449 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,120 I think that's all I need to know. There 450 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,200 was no reason for them to look beyond 451 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,520 what they were seeing. Nice to meet you, 452 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,360 girls. And 453 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,360 nothing ever came of it. Okay, great. 454 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,000 I'll show you the way out. All 455 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 right. Girls, say goodbye. Bye. 456 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,920 We were just left to live with this 457 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040 person because he was a nice 458 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,920 person on the outside. 459 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920 I just started feeling so hopeless, like 460 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440 there was no way out of the 461 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,320 situation that that we were in, that it 462 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,840 was never gonna get better, that it would 463 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,360 always be that way or worse. 464 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,280 I think it was around 465 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,120 that time period 466 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320 that I started to become 467 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,360 suicidal. 468 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,240 That I just didn't want to live anymore 469 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000 because I just didn't feel 470 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,320 like I was cared about or loved by 471 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:28,880 anybody. 472 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,440 I had locked myself in the bathroom with 473 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960 knives many times, and I just wasn't 474 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,120 brave enough to take to cut myself. 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,560 And so I was at home, 476 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,320 and our dad had left us unattended. I had 477 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,160 seen things on television about all these 478 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,120 rock stars who OD on pills. So I found 479 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:53,520 pills. 480 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,320 I took them all. 481 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Well, what did you go and do? 482 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,120 My dad basically just gave me this pep 483 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:34,800 talk about don't be depressed about life 484 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,960 anymore and just don't ever do that again 485 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,160 type thing. I feel 486 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,840 so bad. I 487 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,240 don't feel bad. 488 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400 Now get up. It's time for dinner. 489 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,600 I think what was more devastating than 490 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,280 the feeling of leading up to that point 491 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,960 was the feeling I had after I realized 492 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,920 that he just didn't care. He 493 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,880 just just didn't seem to care at all that 494 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,760 I tried to kill myself. 495 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,800 And I remember telling my sister, what is 496 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,440 there worth living for anymore when your 497 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600 own father doesn't care if you ever die? 498 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,400 She didn't want me to die. She wanted 499 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,360 me to be around. She didn't want to 500 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:23,200 be alone with him. 501 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:36,650 Stop! I just told you what needs to 502 00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:39,410 happen. He just got angry. I can't 503 00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:41,970 sticker with these kids. It's like, well, 504 00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:43,290 if you don't take them now, you're never 505 00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:44,210 gonna see them again. 506 00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:55,600 I just wanted to see... if Amber and 507 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Tiffany could come visit for a little 508 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,120 while. My dad had called my grandmother 509 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000 that summer and asked 510 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080 her if my sister and I could come visit. 511 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560 It's just-- it's not a good time for them 512 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,320 to be here. He wanted to get married to 513 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680 who-- the woman who became our stepmom, 514 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160 and he didn't want us to be there for it 515 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360 so that he could have, you know, the 516 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,320 honeymoon phase with her without us 517 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400 getting in the way. And 518 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520 my grandmother told him, you know, it's 519 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,280 just not a good time right now. I just 520 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,200 told you what needs to happen. No, I 521 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 can't stick her with these kids. That set 522 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,240 him off. It's a classic trigger for him. 523 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,240 He expected her to say yes, and she said 524 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,400 now is not a good time. So he just got 525 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,560 angry and said, well, if you don't take 526 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,920 them now, you're never going to see them 527 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,920 again. Damn it! 528 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,440 And so very shortly after that, we went 529 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,120 to go see her. 530 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,080 We left for California with a 531 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,960 singular suitcase, had a couple 532 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,040 changes of clothes, and that was it. 533 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920 We were thinking we were gonna go back in 534 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,280 a month. 535 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,400 And we never did. 536 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,200 Tiffany, I was talking with your dad. How 537 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120 would you feel if Amber came to live with 538 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,480 me? 539 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000 My aunt had been talking to my dad about 540 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480 having my sister go live with her for a 541 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240 school semester because Amber was 542 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360 struggling at school, and I 543 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360 was so afraid to go be alone with 544 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,160 him. Please don't do this. 545 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 You'll be fine. No, you won't. I won't be 546 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440 fine. I did not know how to be 547 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,240 strong without her to help me. I would 548 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,120 no longer have the extra person in 549 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040 my life to rely on for the really bad 550 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,640 days. 551 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,640 I was really just kind of afraid that he 552 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800 might kill me if we were alone, and that 553 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,720 was terrifying. I was in 554 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920 such a panic. I burst into tears, and I 555 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480 told her everything. He 556 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,840 hurts me, and... 557 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,600 And he's angry all the time. He hurts us. 558 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760 I said, you know, please don't do this. 559 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640 Don't make me stay alone with him. He 560 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,840 hurts us and he's molesting me and I 561 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,400 don't want to be alone with him. It's OK. 562 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Well, my sister was there because we have 563 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840 each other. Don't take her away from me. 564 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,520 Don't make me be alone with him. 565 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,800 I was afraid that she wouldn't believe me 566 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,840 because that was his sister. Tiffany, 567 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,520 are you saying he touches you?Yes. 568 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,680 Please don't take Amber away from me. How 569 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,160 long?since we moved home. Oh, 570 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,440 God. She promised to do 571 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,200 everything she could to prevent that 572 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960 situation from happening. I'm so sorry. 573 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,760 Oh, I should have known. 574 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680 That's when my aunt contacted my 575 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,320 grandmother, and my grandmother talked to 576 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,280 my sister, and that's when my sister came 577 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200 forth and told everything about what was 578 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,960 happening to her, to my grandmother. 579 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,840 I remember being alone with my sister 580 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 and just her crying, saying, I didn't 581 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,840 know it was happening to you, too. Yeah, 582 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,440 he did it to me, too. 583 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320 Neither one of us knew about the other 584 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760 being sexually assaulted by him. She just 585 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,120 felt... so guilty. I 586 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,880 didn't want to say anything because I 587 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200 thought if I kept quiet, he wouldn't 588 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680 touch you. She just kept telling me I 589 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760 thought it was only me. I thought if it 590 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440 was just me, he wouldn't do this to you. 591 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080 I'm so sorry I couldn't protect 592 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,200 you. It just hit me like a a ton of 593 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 bricks that day, finding out that 594 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,960 the person at the time that you most 595 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080 deeply care about in your life and that 596 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,240 you are trying to keep safe is no longer 597 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,000 safe. In spite of your best 598 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,840 efforts and sacrifice to ensure that 599 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480 safety, it is devastating. 600 00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:51,280 He didn't actually... serve any long 601 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 time jail sentence, maybe like a few 602 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200 weeks or months. And yeah, we lived in 603 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,040 constant fear that he was going to show 604 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,080 up at the door someday, 605 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320 that he would retaliate against us. 606 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,640 We didn't have any contact with him after 607 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,680 that at all. We were so afraid of his 608 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,480 retaliation. 609 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080 My sister and I did not continue to stay 610 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640 close. She ran away from home 611 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,760 when I was 15. She said she didn't 612 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600 like walls being around her. She didn't 613 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,080 want to live with my grandmother because 614 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600 my grandmother had rules. My 615 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,640 sister didn't want rules. She didn't want 616 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040 structure. I would hear from her every 617 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,840 couple years or so here and there. And I 618 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:48,800 worried about her. 619 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,880 I don't think I really believed it at 620 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,760 first. It's one of those moments 621 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,720 where you kind of do a double take. What 622 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:06,560 do you mean dad's a serial killer? 623 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,880 I hadn't really had much contact with my 624 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,880 sister. I received a phone 625 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,800 call from her. Hello?And it was 626 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,200 very strange that she called me because 627 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,880 she never really called me for anything. 628 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200 So I answered the phone and my 629 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920 sister just 630 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,800 told me no 631 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,680 real. Sugar coating on 632 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040 it, she just said, hey, 633 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120 have you watched news or something like 634 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,840 that?And I said no. 635 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960 And she was like, oh, well, Dad's a 636 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200 serial killer. That's exactly how she 637 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,400 said it. Dad's a serial killer. 638 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 I was just like, you know, OK, 639 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,280 what do you mean Dad's a serial killer? 640 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,760 Well, she said, you know, it's all over 641 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,280 the television. He was arrested 642 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,240 on suspicion of murder of all these women 643 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,280 in Houston. I got off the phone with her, 644 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,280 and sure enough... The man now 645 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600 charged with the crime?41-year-old 646 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200 Anthony Allen Shore. 647 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,760 It was all true. They say Shore 648 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,800 confessed to the four killings, showed no 649 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160 remorse. Each victim was strangled with a 650 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,000 ligature wire. 651 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720 Shore is now charged with four sex 652 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,240 murders dating back 17 years. The 653 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,440 killings occurred over a nine-year span, 654 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,320 and authorities fear Shore killed others 655 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,960 as well. 656 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480 It was very surreal. It was like having 657 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,400 kind of like an out-of-body experience. I 658 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560 wish I could share with you guys what he 659 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520 told us. But it's unspeakable. He is 660 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960 not remorseful. He is an evil man. You 661 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200 hear the words and see what's going on, 662 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,440 but you just feel so disconnected from it 663 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360 because it just doesn't seem consistent 664 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440 with reality. I just-- 665 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,840 I just shut down. 666 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Yeah, these are all the women that he 667 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,320 murdered. 668 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640 And children, they varied 669 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,160 between the ages of nine and 21. 670 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320 You look at these faces and 671 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,320 it's devastating. It's very 672 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,320 upsetting because they were so young that 673 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,240 they never had the opportunity to be 674 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,600 adults. 675 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,240 That could have been us. This could have 676 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,960 been, this could have been my sister and 677 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,880 I easily. They all had dark 678 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,040 hair and dark eyes and 679 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,320 very young 680 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,040 features. He seemed to be drawn to little 681 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920 girls that looked like 682 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,880 my sister and I. 683 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,720 All of the murders occurred during the 684 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,560 period of time we were living with him. 685 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,480 Was he trying to find people that looked 686 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,280 like us because he wanted to kill 687 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,840 us?That's something that's occurred to 688 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,440 me. And if that was the case, how badly 689 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000 did he want to kill us?How long would it 690 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,680 have been before he would have strangled 691 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680 my sister or I to death?It is a 692 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,200 terrifying thought. Would it have been 693 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440 another month, another year when I made 694 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,120 it to adulthood?It's 695 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,120 terrifying. I am thankful to be alive 696 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,120 because. That could 697 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,360 have been either one of us. 698 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,080 And I try to 699 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,360 keep that in mind every time 700 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200 I feel down and out about it, because I 701 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,080 don't feel like you ever 702 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,880 just get over something like that. 703 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,480 After finding out about it,All those 704 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640 memories just came flooding back to me. 705 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,160 Things that just seemed unimportant just 706 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,200 became so relevant. 707 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,000 When we lived in Houston, we had this 708 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960 van. The van had no seats 709 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200 in the back. He had, like, 710 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,960 the cliche, stereotypical 711 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,880 serial killer van, and I rode around in 712 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,480 it. I remember seeing this girl walking 713 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,880 along. And there wasn't anybody around. I 714 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,480 just picked up and they were in the lane 715 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480 and nobody saw . My 716 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040 dad would pick up hitchhikers, and I just 717 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,600 thought it was so strange that my dad 718 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,280 would pick up a stranger off the side of 719 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,760 the road and just let them ride in our 720 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480 car. So who 721 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960 knows?I mean, I can only imagine what he 722 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,960 was doing. I was 723 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,640 driving around. I saw this 724 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,120 girl. Why not?I just said, Hey, you about 725 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,520 to go ahead. Jump right in. 726 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680 There were all these signs that something 727 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,240 wasn't right, and nobody, 728 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,960 nobody did anything about it. 729 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,400 He had everybody convinced that he was 730 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,800 this fantastic, wonderful person, 731 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,760 neighbors and things, saying, Oh, he was 732 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000 just such a nice guy. We couldn't see it. 733 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,880 When they said that he was going to get 734 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,800 the death penalty, it was almost a relief 735 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,760 because I thought, finally, he'll 736 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,320 be gone. You know, we'll all get closure. 737 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,520 We won't ever have to worry about what 738 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,320 he's going to say or do next or him 739 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160 hurting anybody else or manipulating 740 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,120 anybody else. 741 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,280 He'll just be gone. And 742 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640 it's frustrating. You know, 743 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,760 I... I've been counting 744 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,840 down the days for 10 years now, 745 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,440 waiting for that 746 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,360 closure. And it doesn't escape 747 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,240 me that I do have good memories of my 748 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,480 dad, and he wasn't always a horrible 749 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120 person, but he did very horrible, 750 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,160 unforgivable things. He asked for death 751 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,080 row. He deserves death row. 752 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,320 So now it's just a waiting game. 753 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,160 When he is finally gone, I think I'll be 754 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,440 able to really breathe again. 755 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,560 But I haven't heard from my sister in 756 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,200 years. I don't know if she's alive. I 757 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,320 don't know if she's dead. I don't know if 758 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,040 she's in prison or if she got her life 759 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480 together. I don't know. I don't know what 760 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,160 happened to her. 761 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,760 She didn't want to be found, 762 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680 so we lost her. 52301

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