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Look at this man!
I'm telling you, ladies,
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send your kids
out of the room,
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because I want you to take
a look at Bam Bam Bigelow.
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There's no one who doesn't
know Bam Bam Bigelow.
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And, if they don't
know his name,
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if they see the face and
the head, they know it.
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His entire head was a flame.
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So, he started doing the
flames on his suits and
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his boots, and you'd look
out into the audience
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and the flame everywhere.
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Bam! Oh! Wow!
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He was just massive,
but so athletic.
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So quick.
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Bammer, he did it almost
like a ballet dancer.
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Bigelow can move
for a big man.
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He knows what
he's doing in there.
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Look at this 400-pound man
doing flips, cartwheels...
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going through the ring,
this is crazy.
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In his time in the 80s,
nobody was like him.
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Like, this isn't right.
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It wasn't just
"Rookie of the Year",
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it was "Phenomenon
of the Year."
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Bam Bam Bigelow!
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Arriving on the scene
like a force of nature,
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Bam Bam Bigelow catapulted
to the top of the
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wrestling world and
never looked back.
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You need a little excitement?
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When you've been on top in
WWE and then you've
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been on the tippety top top
in ECW, you know,
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they beat the ----
out of each other.
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Wrestling rewarded Bam Bam's
talents with money and fame,
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but those rewards came
with a heavy price.
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All the wear and tear,
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you're not gonna
feel it right away.
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But it's coming.
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And that's when
it changed.
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And everything spiralled
out of control.
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You're selling your body,
you're selling your health,
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to have fame, fortune and
everything that goes with it.
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People had mouths to feed,
so guys did
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what they had to do
to earn their living.
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He was in pain, and there
was a doctor involved that
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was willing to
take that away,
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and things went
downhill from there.
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But Bam Bam's addictions
eventually push him
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beyond the point
of redemption,
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destroying
everything he loved.
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A trusted professional
gave him the thing
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that was his
biggest demise.
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This doctor,
he could have handed
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a loaded machine
gun to our family.
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It would have
been no different.
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No different.
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♪
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♪
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So, I'm just digging
through the vast archives,
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we have Dad's calendar,
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and then if you go to
November 15, 1987,
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he got married,
and then, you know,
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not even taking
a honeymoon.
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Like,
he had a day off,
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and then he was in
Des Moines, Iowa.
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This is literally the first
four days of his career
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with the WWF in 1987.
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He definitely wanted
kids right away.
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He was like, "I just want to
stay home and raise the kids.
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You could go to work,
go to school,
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do what you want to do."
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And he was more
excited about being a dad
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than he was when he
got Wrestlemania.
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Hi, I'm Dana Breckenridge.
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I was married to
Bam Bam Bigelow.
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And when Ricci came,
I mean,
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that was the
best thing ever.
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'Cause alls he ever really
wanted was a daughter.
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Oh yeah, he was a
giant teddy bear.
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What fans saw in the ring
was not at all
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what we saw at home.
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It was love,
it was playing around.
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My name is Ricci Bigelow,
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and my father is
Bam Bam Bigelow.
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We had this giant,
giant bed that
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we would all cuddle up in.
Just jump around.
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Yeah, it was a great time.
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It was the last time
I saw him.
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We were just
driving in the car,
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and I was
2 or 3 years old,
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but I remember seeing his
head slowly drop to his chest
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and then come back up.
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And whenever I think back
on how I went about
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the situation I'm
always so baffled,
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because I was so young, but
in some way I understood that
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we were in some
sort of danger.
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And as a toddler,
I went into panic mode.
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"I gotta go to the bathroom!
I gotta get out.
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Daddy, Daddy,
pull over, I can't!"
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So we pulled over on the
side of the road,
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and he looked at me
and gave me
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this big toothless smile.
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He's like, "Come on,
do you have to go?"
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Like it was just on the
side of the road.
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And I was like, "No, no."
But kind of stalling,
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and then we just got
back on the road,
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and it started
happening again.
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This time we
were by a diner,
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and we pulled
into that diner,
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and the next thing I know
my car door was opened,
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and a man just
scooped me up and
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put me in the back of
this grey car.
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And, from the backseat
I watched them
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take my dad in
handcuffs, across.
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That was it.
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My mom came and
picked me up,
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and she was real
gentle about it,
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and she told me,
"You're probably not going
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to be seeing Daddy anymore.
He needs help."
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And that was the
last time I saw him.
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He wanted to be a wrestler,
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but he wanted to be
a father more.
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And, um, everything
was taken away.
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So, was wrestling
what took it away?
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Or was Scott and all the
other outside influences
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what took it away?
Like, how did this happen?
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Oh here we go.
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This is Dad sophomore year,
in high school.
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Oh my God.
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Right? They were Class A
North champions.
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20 and 6.
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That's probably the last time
you'll see him with hair.
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[Laughing]
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Everything around Asbury
Park is Bruce Springsteen.
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The sound of Bruce Springsteen
is everywhere and
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in everything that we did
when we grew up on The Shore.
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Scott was a street kid from
Neptune who hung out in
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the bars of Asbury,
you know,
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driving the circuit
in muscle cars.
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For our age and our crowd
he was definitely the man.
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You know what, he was
probably the kindest,
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most genuine person
of the group.
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We were friends and it
was just a progression,
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and then it was a whirlwind,
we were street kids.
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Nobody thought about
where they were going.
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I didn't go to college,
my friends didn't
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go to college,
he didn't go to college.
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God, the Jersey Shore was
like, the party place to be.
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I was running a club
called Club Xanadu
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in Asbury Park,
New Jersey.
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The club is actually one
block from The Stone Pony,
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and in the middle was this
place called Quack Quack.
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It's DDP,
Diamond Dallas Page,
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and I know Bam Bam because
I'm from the Jersey Shore.
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-DDP!
-Oh!
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We've got a new
world champion, guys.
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I roll into the
Quack Quack and
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I see this mammoth kid.
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At some point, you know,
we're doing shots and
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we just kind of clicked,
you know,
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but I think he was
17 at the time,
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but no one cared,
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'cause he looked like
a full grown man.
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He was, you know,
300 plus pounds,
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and he could obviously
be very menacing,
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but he also had that
fun side to him.
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And they were calling him
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"The Beast from
the East" back then.
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He was a football player and
he was ranked in the state
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for wrestling, and he was
feared on the mat and
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on the football field.
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This is the time when
heavyweight in
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high school wrestling
was unlimited.
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So, you're talking about a
320 pound teenager
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who can bench 500 pounds,
walking onto a mat.
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I'm Shane Bigelow.
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My father is
Bam Bam Bigelow.
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I heard a story from a high
school wrestling coach that
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my father rolled his ankle
real bad and he couldn't
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wrestle, but his coach
was just like, "Scotty,
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I need you to just go up
there and just look mean."
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So he gets up, he steps
up on the scale,
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and he turns to the kid and
he just gives him this
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big flex, just like,
"I'm coming for you!"
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Lo and behold this kid is
shitting his pants.
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So, he tells his coach,
"I'm not wrestling this guy,
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he's going to rip my
----ing head off."
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All my father had to do,
he hopped out on one leg,
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got his hand raised,
and took the win.
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Yeah, there was a group
of the boys and
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they were rough drinking,
tattooed, like old sailors,
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but not sailors,
they were roofers.
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[Laughing]
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And they were very
infamous around town.
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Him and his brothers used to
jump off of billboards
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onto mattresses on the
side of the road.
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My grandmother would drive
past, she would be like,
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"Oh look at those kids."
And then she'd realize that
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it was her three boys
jumping onto, like,
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five mattresses piled high.
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Scott was very quiet.
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You know, he was the
baby of the bunch.
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They usually only
called him in
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when they needed the
extra muscle.
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I had heard he got into a
fight and he bit
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some kid's ear off, it's
like, what? [Laughing]
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But it's part of
the legend that went with
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"The Beast from the East."
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Tough dude.
He ran with rugged people.
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He was all that and a bag
of chips, man, he was a,
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he was a bad apple
when he wanted to be.
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I am Taz.
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Former ECW World
Heavyweight Champion,
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and former opponent
of Bam Bam Bigelow.
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Bam Bam Bigelow
all over Taz.
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I've heard all the
stories about Bigelow,
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and I believe them all.
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There's a whole separate
legend before The Legend
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Bam Bam Bigelow ever
became The Legend.
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My name is
Scott Colton Bigelow,
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and Bam Bam Bigelow
is my father.
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I know that he was a bounty
hunter for a short stint.
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I don't know much about
the backstory of it.
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He was supposedly
commissioned to go and
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bring back a young girl
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who was taken out
of the country.
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In the whole mayday
craziness of the thing,
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his bounty hunting partner
ends up
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getting shot in the
neck and killed.
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And that's when my dad spent
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six months in a
Mexican prison.
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I heard he ended up in jail.
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You know, in Mexico.
[Laughing]
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So you'd just hear
little bits and pieces,
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and with Scotty,
they could be exaggerated.
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The story is he befriended
the judge because he used to
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run through the walls that
were made out of, like,
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the terracotta clay.
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He used to just break through
the cells of the walls
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so they couldn't
keep him in.
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So the judge one day
apparently goes to him
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and asks him, he goes,
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"I need security from
all these cartel, mob,
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whatever guys.
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So you stand in front of me
and you stop these maniacs
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from like, lunging at me,
and trying to kill me,
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and I'll knock your
sentence down."
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So the story is that a judge
took pity on my father
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because my father
saved him from a
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bunch of guys trying
to jump over and stab him,
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and he ended up letting
him loose early.
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He's basically a
New Jersey legend.
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There's a story that, uh,
one night a house is on fire,
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he's driving by, runs in
and saves some kids.
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He pulled over, ran in the
house and saved the kids.
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That sounds like a TV movie.
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It doesn't sound like stuff
that really happens, you know?
255
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And, uh, there were a
lot of stories like that,
256
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just out there
floating around.
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I'm Shane Douglas and I
had the pleasure of being
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partners in The Triple Threat
with Bam Bam Bigelow.
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Who's the [Beep]
world champion?
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You know, as I had heard
that he got arrested,
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I guess in Mexico.
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You know, that
sounds implausible.
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But then, like, over years
you'd hear other people
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repeating these
stories and I'm just,
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elevating that legend
that was Bam Bam.
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Here comes Bam Bam
in the club,
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and this is like '81-ish,
and it's packed.
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My club was nice.
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And I see Bam roll in with
like three of his
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biker buddies, and I come
rolling up behind him,
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put my arm around his back,
I'm like, "Yo, Bammer.
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No trouble in here tonight,
right bro?"
273
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"Aw come on Page,
I wouldn't do that to you."
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And at some point
we're at the bar and
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I bought, you know,
got the guys a shot,
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and uh,
wrestling comes up.
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And, you know, I said,
"You know, I tried that,
278
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in '79." He goes,
"You tried wrestling?"
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And I said, "But I had
three matches.
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My third match I hurt
my knee, and I kind of
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got swept away by the booze,
the broads, and the party."
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But talking to him about it,
you know, I'm like,
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"Dude, you're a natural."
He goes, "I've, I,
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that would, that would be a,
that would be a
285
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pie in the sky
dream for me."
286
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So, Larry Sharpe was a
former amateur wrestler...
287
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Who opened up the
Monster Factory.
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My name is Dave Meltzer.
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I'm the editor of The
Wrestling Observer Newsletter
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and I've been covering
pro wrestling since 1971.
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And, one day I guess Bam
Bam walked in the door,
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and Larry saw, like
everyone did, money!
293
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And he became
Scott's "manager".
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Set him up on a couch,
threw him in the ring,
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and trained him.
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I saw footage of him coming
out of the Monster Factory.
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You could tell, like,
his aptitude to learn
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how to do this and get better
at this, his athleticism,
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it jumped out to me
right away.
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I mean, seeing a guy
like that, you know,
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a guy that big, you know,
do a cartwheel, I was like,
302
00:12:54,544 --> 00:12:56,754
"Wow." I mean,
he's super impressive.
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For Scott,
professional wrestling,
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it's like a double
edged sword.
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It gave him life and
it took his life.
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That's the ultimate
double edge, isn't it?
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In 1985, Scott Bigelow was
on the brink of stardom,
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having made a clean break
from a troubled past.
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When he went to the
Monster Factory
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with Larry Sharpe,
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Larry really developed the
name Bam Bam.
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With Scott, Bam Bam.
The strong babyface.
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You're like, "Bam Bam,
from the Flintstones."
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So, he became
Bam Bam Bigelow.
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Probably the most
handsome wrestler
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on the face of the earth.
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The massive
head of Bam Bam,
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and that big flame
bowl on that head.
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That tattoo.
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Who gets ink on their head
has gotta be crazy.
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Nevertheless their whole head.
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For those that
never got a tattoo,
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they hurt as much as they
think, okay? [Laughing]
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This guy got his
skull tattooed.
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Just imagine how much pain,
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00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,266
and how many hours
that took to do.
327
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This was the branding
of Bam Bam Bigelow.
328
00:13:56,436 --> 00:13:58,521
See people love to hate,
and as long as
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they wanna hate me,
I know I'm doing my job.
330
00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:04,986
And it kind of just sent
that message to the fans and
331
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to other wrestlers,
that's a bad dude right there.
332
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And Bammer, do you have
anything to say about
333
00:14:08,697 --> 00:14:10,324
all of this?
-I'm hungry.
334
00:14:10,324 --> 00:14:13,160
Despite being a rookie
to the wrestling scene,
335
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,162
those with an eye for the
business see
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00:14:15,162 --> 00:14:17,581
Bam Bam's incredible
potential.
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00:14:17,581 --> 00:14:20,083
Especially soon-to-be
industry pioneer,
338
00:14:20,083 --> 00:14:21,501
Paul Heyman.
339
00:14:21,501 --> 00:14:24,421
Paul was doing wrestling
magazines at the time.
340
00:14:24,421 --> 00:14:26,631
This was before he was
actually running around
341
00:14:26,631 --> 00:14:28,216
the business as a manager.
342
00:14:28,216 --> 00:14:29,592
And in his magazines he was
always promoting
343
00:14:29,592 --> 00:14:32,136
Bam Bam Bigelow like this,
this phenomenon.
344
00:14:32,136 --> 00:14:33,721
And the guy had never
even had a match.
345
00:14:33,721 --> 00:14:36,349
Paul worked at Studio 54,
he was doing publicity
346
00:14:36,349 --> 00:14:39,602
at the time, and he got this,
you know, gig.
347
00:14:39,602 --> 00:14:41,896
Bam Bam Bigelow's
first match.
348
00:14:41,896 --> 00:14:45,190
And I looked at it, and I
was just like, "Oh my God.
349
00:14:45,190 --> 00:14:47,275
This guy is like 380 pounds,
350
00:14:47,275 --> 00:14:48,902
and he's coming
off the top rope."
351
00:14:48,902 --> 00:14:50,487
At that point, you know,
I'm going, like,
352
00:14:50,487 --> 00:14:52,197
"This guy is
gonna be like, it."
353
00:14:52,197 --> 00:14:53,823
[Crowd cheering]
354
00:14:53,823 --> 00:14:55,534
In wrestling, like, he's gonna
be the biggest thing.
355
00:14:55,534 --> 00:14:58,286
I was like 19 when
we started dating,
356
00:14:58,286 --> 00:15:01,081
and I was with his brother
and a couple other friends,
357
00:15:01,081 --> 00:15:03,624
and we went to his show,
and he got up there and
358
00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:07,002
he wrestled, and they were just
in awe of what it all was.
359
00:15:07,002 --> 00:15:09,380
I just was like, "Oh
you know, he's at work."
360
00:15:09,380 --> 00:15:10,965
I didn't really know
too much about it
361
00:15:10,965 --> 00:15:14,009
until the WWF came back.
362
00:15:14,009 --> 00:15:16,679
At some point I'm running
another really big club
363
00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:19,932
in '86-ish, and I'm
flicking the channels,
364
00:15:19,932 --> 00:15:22,267
and all of a sudden
I see him wrestling.
365
00:15:22,267 --> 00:15:25,311
I'm like, "Oh my God!
That's Bigelow!"
366
00:15:25,311 --> 00:15:27,855
Take a good look,
because we're bringing him
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00:15:27,855 --> 00:15:30,191
from one end of the
world to the other.
368
00:15:30,191 --> 00:15:31,985
Next thing I know,
he's with Hulk Hogan,
369
00:15:31,985 --> 00:15:36,114
he's in the WWF, and I'm like,
"Oh my God."
370
00:15:36,114 --> 00:15:39,491
From Asbury Park,
New Jersey!
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00:15:39,491 --> 00:15:40,951
He made it.
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00:15:40,951 --> 00:15:44,705
-Bam Bam Bigelow.
-[Cheering]
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Not only is Bam Bam
headed to the WWF,
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00:15:47,833 --> 00:15:50,043
but he's coming in with
the full support of
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00:15:50,043 --> 00:15:52,462
company owner,
Vince McMahon.
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00:15:52,462 --> 00:15:54,214
WWF brought him in,
and, you know,
377
00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:57,091
they tried to make him
into the next big thing.
378
00:15:57,091 --> 00:15:59,010
You know, they did the thing
where all the managers were
379
00:15:59,010 --> 00:16:02,013
bidding on him to make
him extra special.
380
00:16:02,013 --> 00:16:06,392
I'm here to introduce
Bam Bam Bigelow.
381
00:16:06,392 --> 00:16:09,312
Vince loved big guys, and now
you've got the most agile
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00:16:09,312 --> 00:16:13,649
380 pound guy that
anyone has ever seen.
383
00:16:13,649 --> 00:16:14,983
I mean, they brought him in
to be Hulk Hogan's
384
00:16:14,983 --> 00:16:17,360
tag team partner, to be
right there with Hogan,
385
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,737
and he was gonna
main event there,
386
00:16:18,737 --> 00:16:20,280
and he was gonna work
with the top guys.
387
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,708
He signed the WWE contract
and we got married
388
00:16:31,708 --> 00:16:33,917
November 15th, 1987.
389
00:16:33,917 --> 00:16:37,046
And he went on the road
November 16th, 1987.
390
00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:42,426
We were watching TV,
and he was like...
391
00:16:42,426 --> 00:16:43,886
[Laughing]
392
00:16:43,886 --> 00:16:45,596
"Wanna get married?"
[Laughing]
393
00:16:45,596 --> 00:16:47,473
And I was like,
"Okay!" [Laughing]
394
00:16:47,473 --> 00:16:48,515
And that was
basically it,
395
00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:49,808
there was no fanfare.
396
00:16:49,808 --> 00:16:53,144
I saw him ten times a year,
I don't even know.
397
00:16:53,144 --> 00:16:55,063
Maybe that's why our
marriage lasted so long,
398
00:16:55,063 --> 00:16:56,981
maybe that's why I don't
have anything bad to say.
399
00:16:56,981 --> 00:16:59,525
He was on the road and
hit the ground running,
400
00:16:59,525 --> 00:17:01,402
and it was on from there.
401
00:17:14,790 --> 00:17:18,377
When he was home, you know,
he did regular things.
402
00:17:18,377 --> 00:17:20,921
So he remained
very humble.
403
00:17:20,921 --> 00:17:22,714
Scott was who he
was around here.
404
00:17:22,714 --> 00:17:25,884
But you know, it was
cool to see him on TV.
405
00:17:25,884 --> 00:17:27,552
He was in the first
Nintendo game.
406
00:17:27,552 --> 00:17:29,762
Like I said, he was just
breaking into the business
407
00:17:29,762 --> 00:17:32,431
and he worked,
and he provided.
408
00:17:32,431 --> 00:17:35,768
He knew to take advantage of
that situation and to take
409
00:17:35,768 --> 00:17:38,479
advantage of everything
that was given to him.
410
00:17:38,479 --> 00:17:40,314
What a monster!
411
00:17:40,314 --> 00:17:41,816
Everybody that gets a
pair of boots and tights
412
00:17:41,816 --> 00:17:43,025
wants to be the world
champion, right?
413
00:17:43,025 --> 00:17:44,735
And they think they're
ready for it yesterday.
414
00:17:44,735 --> 00:17:48,446
For me it was 11 years
before I saw a world title.
415
00:17:48,446 --> 00:17:51,574
So, when I did get that
belt I understood
416
00:17:51,574 --> 00:17:53,576
the responsibility
that went with it.
417
00:17:53,576 --> 00:17:55,286
So I would think that
Bam Bam being thrown
418
00:17:55,286 --> 00:17:58,331
that quickly into main
events with, you know,
419
00:17:58,331 --> 00:18:00,625
Hulk Hogan or one of
these massive names,
420
00:18:00,625 --> 00:18:02,210
it would have
been intimidating.
421
00:18:02,210 --> 00:18:04,169
He never had to
crawl his way up.
422
00:18:04,169 --> 00:18:06,255
There's always going to be
jealousy especially when
423
00:18:06,255 --> 00:18:07,798
you've been in the
business 15 years,
424
00:18:07,798 --> 00:18:10,050
and he's been in the
business for two, or one,
425
00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:12,010
and he's on the
top of the card.
426
00:18:12,010 --> 00:18:14,763
He was young and these
guys were big and it was
427
00:18:14,763 --> 00:18:17,141
George "The Animal" Steele,
and King Kong Bundy.
428
00:18:17,141 --> 00:18:20,185
And it was just people that
he always saw on TV and now
429
00:18:20,185 --> 00:18:21,979
all of a sudden he's standing
in the middle of the ring
430
00:18:21,979 --> 00:18:24,814
in the Survivor Series, and
the older guys were like,
431
00:18:24,814 --> 00:18:26,732
"You know what,
you need to step in line."
432
00:18:26,732 --> 00:18:28,901
The eighth wonder
of the world.
433
00:18:28,901 --> 00:18:30,653
I remember, there was
an André match,
434
00:18:30,653 --> 00:18:32,822
of course André the Giant
was the biggest man
435
00:18:32,822 --> 00:18:34,198
you'll ever see.
436
00:18:34,198 --> 00:18:37,535
André got him in the ring
up against the ropes,
437
00:18:37,535 --> 00:18:40,121
and wrapped the rope
around his neck.
438
00:18:40,121 --> 00:18:42,456
Scott was like,
"He's gonna ----ing kill me.
439
00:18:42,456 --> 00:18:44,458
Yeah, he's gonna kill me."
440
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:58,221
♪
441
00:19:02,766 --> 00:19:03,934
Look out!
442
00:19:03,934 --> 00:19:06,395
Even Bam Bam looks
small next to this guy.
443
00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:15,196
So, you know André,
he was on top of him and
444
00:19:15,196 --> 00:19:18,364
he was pounding on him.
I mean, hard.
445
00:19:18,364 --> 00:19:19,449
It was a bad night
at the office
446
00:19:19,449 --> 00:19:20,825
for Bam Bam Bigelow.
447
00:19:20,825 --> 00:19:23,453
And André said something
to him, like, "Young boy."
448
00:19:23,453 --> 00:19:25,246
You know, "'You're a little
green for us."
449
00:19:25,246 --> 00:19:26,706
Like, "This is how
it works."
450
00:19:26,706 --> 00:19:30,084
Like, "You're gonna learn."
And André really just
451
00:19:30,084 --> 00:19:32,879
stuck it to him, but,
you know, they were just
452
00:19:32,879 --> 00:19:34,923
letting him know he had
to pay his dues.
453
00:19:34,923 --> 00:19:37,466
He was green, and you
need to wait your turn,
454
00:19:37,466 --> 00:19:39,092
'cause it's not right now.
455
00:19:39,092 --> 00:19:40,344
[Laughing]
456
00:19:40,344 --> 00:19:42,554
After only a year
in the big leagues,
457
00:19:42,554 --> 00:19:45,224
Bam Bam Bigelow's match
with André the Giant
458
00:19:45,224 --> 00:19:48,936
marks his exit
from the WWF.
459
00:19:48,936 --> 00:19:50,354
He had gotten
such a big push,
460
00:19:50,354 --> 00:19:53,856
but at a certain point
they did sour on him.
461
00:19:53,856 --> 00:19:56,442
Bam Bam Bigelow
paid the price here.
462
00:19:56,442 --> 00:19:57,860
And it may have been,
ego-wise,
463
00:19:57,860 --> 00:19:59,403
the other guys
not liking him.
464
00:19:59,403 --> 00:20:02,615
My father, just knowing when
things get a little too thick
465
00:20:02,615 --> 00:20:04,992
and it's not his time,
he moved on.
466
00:20:04,992 --> 00:20:08,412
Now on his own, Bam Bam
travels the country
467
00:20:08,412 --> 00:20:11,748
working for various US
promotions before receiving
468
00:20:11,748 --> 00:20:15,252
a lucrative offer to
wrestle in Japan.
469
00:20:15,252 --> 00:20:17,045
I don't even know
what years these are,
470
00:20:17,045 --> 00:20:20,340
but judging by the suit,
probably early '90s.
471
00:20:20,340 --> 00:20:22,926
This is one of his
original Japanese suits.
472
00:20:22,926 --> 00:20:26,054
There was more money for
him to be had overseas.
473
00:20:33,769 --> 00:20:35,354
When he went to Japan
he was on for two weeks
474
00:20:35,354 --> 00:20:36,814
and then home
for two weeks.
475
00:20:36,814 --> 00:20:39,441
So he had longer
stretches of time home.
476
00:20:42,611 --> 00:20:43,946
The contract.
477
00:20:43,946 --> 00:20:45,406
And it was time for him to
come back to the States.
478
00:20:45,406 --> 00:20:47,991
I guess in his meeting
with Vince, you know,
479
00:20:47,991 --> 00:20:49,701
they worked a deal.
480
00:20:49,701 --> 00:20:51,369
That he felt comfortable,
and he was a little bit
481
00:20:51,369 --> 00:20:53,037
more mature, and he was
ready to come back.
482
00:20:58,084 --> 00:21:01,838
So this is his, uh,
coming out to the ring attire
483
00:21:01,838 --> 00:21:05,300
when he was in his
second run in the WWF.
484
00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:08,135
He would have pyrotechnics
underneath here,
485
00:21:08,135 --> 00:21:11,013
and they would shoot,
like, fireworks out.
486
00:21:11,013 --> 00:21:12,556
Oh, wow!
487
00:21:15,267 --> 00:21:18,395
I don't fill it out as much
as, as much as he did.
488
00:21:18,395 --> 00:21:20,939
♪
489
00:21:20,939 --> 00:21:24,567
He said he used to look
like a tulip in it.
490
00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:29,655
In 1992 as the WWF struggles
with declining popularity,
491
00:21:29,655 --> 00:21:33,618
Vince McMahon brings
Bam Bam back to the roster.
492
00:21:33,618 --> 00:21:36,704
Once again proving to
be a top level star,
493
00:21:36,704 --> 00:21:38,956
Bam Bam gets thrust
into the main event
494
00:21:38,956 --> 00:21:40,583
of WrestleMania XI...
495
00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:42,460
Wrestlemania 11!
496
00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:45,003
When McMahon books him
against of the NFL's
497
00:21:45,003 --> 00:21:48,173
most celebrated players.
498
00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:49,549
Lawrence Taylor.
499
00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:51,676
Probably the most
500
00:21:51,676 --> 00:21:55,138
media frenzied time of
my father's career.
501
00:21:55,138 --> 00:21:58,433
That was Scott's idol,
like, LT and the Giants.
502
00:21:58,433 --> 00:22:00,268
Like, "Now I'm gonna
wrestle him." You know?
503
00:22:00,268 --> 00:22:01,644
"I'm gonna
wrestle with him."
504
00:22:01,644 --> 00:22:07,566
That build up and that whole
pomp and circumstance of
505
00:22:07,566 --> 00:22:09,818
being the main event
at Wrestlemania.
506
00:22:09,818 --> 00:22:12,154
Lawrence Taylor,
it's just me and you!
507
00:22:12,154 --> 00:22:14,698
This was a match not
for wrestling fans.
508
00:22:14,698 --> 00:22:16,450
The media hype
around this match
509
00:22:16,450 --> 00:22:18,369
has been absolutely huge.
510
00:22:18,369 --> 00:22:20,203
This was a match for
the general public.
511
00:22:20,203 --> 00:22:24,207
And the idea was by being in
the match all the exposure
512
00:22:24,207 --> 00:22:26,334
from the football press,
and the mainstream press,
513
00:22:26,334 --> 00:22:28,836
would then make
Bam Bam's name bigger,
514
00:22:28,836 --> 00:22:32,548
so then he could be
the big star that
515
00:22:32,548 --> 00:22:34,008
they wanted him to be.
516
00:22:34,008 --> 00:22:36,010
That means I'm here,
I did it.
517
00:22:36,010 --> 00:22:37,928
I am the 1%.
518
00:22:37,928 --> 00:22:43,100
Every little boy wants
to be a WWE wrestler.
519
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:46,228
Almost every little boy.
And he was main event.
520
00:22:46,228 --> 00:22:48,021
It was a paycheque
bigger than
521
00:22:48,021 --> 00:22:50,315
a lot of people
make in one year.
522
00:22:50,315 --> 00:22:52,067
I see a lot of videos online.
523
00:22:52,067 --> 00:22:54,569
People all, "Oh, it's the
worst Wrestlemania."
524
00:22:54,569 --> 00:22:55,945
You know what?
525
00:22:55,945 --> 00:22:58,614
There's not another person
that could have carried
526
00:22:58,614 --> 00:23:01,075
Lawrence Taylor
to do that show.
527
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:12,336
You know, Vince trusted
my father enough to be the
528
00:23:12,336 --> 00:23:14,546
person to pull that off.
529
00:23:14,546 --> 00:23:17,924
Bam Bam soon learns that
being the company's go-to
530
00:23:17,924 --> 00:23:20,510
big man comes with
certain sacrifices.
531
00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:34,481
It definitely took
a toll on his body.
532
00:23:34,481 --> 00:23:37,526
I mean every time he sits
in a chair and stands up,
533
00:23:37,526 --> 00:23:39,862
he just squatted 400 pounds.
534
00:23:39,862 --> 00:23:41,864
A lot of wear and tear
on your knees.
535
00:23:41,864 --> 00:23:45,617
Your back, your neck,
your shoulders.
536
00:23:45,617 --> 00:23:48,454
I mean the thing that made
him so great was,
537
00:23:48,454 --> 00:23:50,204
you know,
an agile big guy.
538
00:23:50,204 --> 00:23:52,457
The problem with the agile
big guys is that by doing
539
00:23:52,457 --> 00:23:55,543
that stuff, a smaller guy
can take that stuff longer,
540
00:23:55,543 --> 00:23:58,212
and the big guy it starts
wearing down on you, a lot.
541
00:23:58,212 --> 00:24:00,882
He definitely had some
knee surgeries and
542
00:24:00,882 --> 00:24:03,676
an elbow surgery or
sholder surgery.
543
00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,678
You know his body was
starting to take
544
00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:08,056
a little bit of a lickin'.
545
00:24:08,056 --> 00:24:09,431
That's one thing I didn't do.
546
00:24:09,431 --> 00:24:11,558
I didn't worry and
I didn't stress out.
547
00:24:11,558 --> 00:24:14,478
It was his job and he was
an entertainer and
548
00:24:14,478 --> 00:24:18,148
he was an athlete, and I was
too young to think about
549
00:24:18,148 --> 00:24:21,359
the lifelong lasting effects
of wrestling and
550
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,904
what it would have on
his body and his mind.
551
00:24:23,904 --> 00:24:26,781
But I do know that he
knew if he was out
552
00:24:26,781 --> 00:24:28,908
and he was injured too long,
somebody was going to
553
00:24:28,908 --> 00:24:31,827
step up and replace him.
So, that was a no-no.
554
00:24:31,827 --> 00:24:34,497
I'm not letting the
opportunity walk by me.
555
00:24:34,497 --> 00:24:36,624
That heavyweight championship
is gonna be mine!
556
00:24:40,377 --> 00:24:42,296
[Sighing] Probably pain pills
like everybody else.
557
00:24:42,296 --> 00:24:44,381
But I do remember, you know,
that was so commonplace
558
00:24:44,381 --> 00:24:45,840
among wrestlers then.
559
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,301
It was such a part
of the scene that
560
00:24:48,301 --> 00:24:49,928
it wasn't like,
a big deal.
561
00:24:49,928 --> 00:24:52,222
And it was like, "Hey D,
you got any Vikes?"
562
00:24:52,222 --> 00:24:53,723
So you just gave em'
to your boy.
563
00:24:53,723 --> 00:24:56,226
You know, because he
needed em' right there.
564
00:24:56,226 --> 00:24:59,103
When you see this symbol
you can be assured of
565
00:24:59,103 --> 00:25:02,816
drug free entertainment
you can be proud of.
566
00:25:02,816 --> 00:25:05,651
Vince tested for marijuana
and performance
567
00:25:05,651 --> 00:25:08,654
enhancing drugs, but you've
got a prescription,
568
00:25:08,654 --> 00:25:09,905
you're good.
569
00:25:09,905 --> 00:25:11,990
Through that 80s and
then into the 90s,
570
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,200
there were two things
that coincided.
571
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,743
Running, if this is
the wrestling industry,
572
00:25:14,743 --> 00:25:17,371
running right next to that is
the pharmaceutical industry.
573
00:25:17,371 --> 00:25:19,164
And the pharmaceutical
industry is now coming up
574
00:25:19,164 --> 00:25:22,959
with better, more accessible
opiates, OxyContin,
575
00:25:22,959 --> 00:25:25,002
which I did have
a problem with.
576
00:25:25,002 --> 00:25:27,630
I've seen it, uh,
so much in my career,
577
00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:31,008
so many of my peers during
that time just left us
578
00:25:31,008 --> 00:25:33,094
way too early because
of addiction,
579
00:25:33,094 --> 00:25:34,929
and especially pain pills.
580
00:25:34,929 --> 00:25:38,266
He um, was diabetic and he
had an endocrinologist.
581
00:25:38,266 --> 00:25:42,519
Not a pain management
doctor, and he would call,
582
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:46,314
and, "I need Percs,
I need Vikes, I need Oxys,
583
00:25:46,314 --> 00:25:48,149
I need something
to keep me going."
584
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:51,111
If you were at the pool
party and ol' Doc came by,
585
00:25:51,111 --> 00:25:53,530
it was well, "I happen to
have a refillable script of
586
00:25:53,530 --> 00:25:57,908
OxyContins in return for
autographs." Or, you know,
587
00:25:57,908 --> 00:25:59,994
tickets to local shows
here and there.
588
00:25:59,994 --> 00:26:02,705
It's a pretty powerful thing
to have over someone.
589
00:26:02,705 --> 00:26:06,292
They might as well have just
put heroine in a bottle and
590
00:26:06,292 --> 00:26:09,587
called it OxyContin. I can
guarantee you before that
591
00:26:09,587 --> 00:26:12,715
prescription was done,
he was probably addicted.
592
00:26:12,715 --> 00:26:14,550
♪
593
00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:24,809
In 1995 after a three-year
run with the WWF,
594
00:26:24,809 --> 00:26:27,604
Bam Bam Bigelow leaves the
company to sign with the
595
00:26:27,604 --> 00:26:31,482
notorious hardcore
wrestling promotion ECW,
596
00:26:31,482 --> 00:26:34,651
run by his old friend,
Paul Heyman.
597
00:26:34,651 --> 00:26:37,946
I mean, one reason he went
to ECW was because
598
00:26:37,946 --> 00:26:39,489
he liked how it was local.
599
00:26:39,489 --> 00:26:41,116
Obviously, if he was in
Asbury the whole family
600
00:26:41,116 --> 00:26:43,160
would get together,
we'd all go.
601
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,078
He knew he had
a commodity.
602
00:26:45,078 --> 00:26:46,872
You know, he didn't
take his character off.
603
00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:49,541
It was tattooed on his head,
so, wherever he went,
604
00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:51,168
Bam Bam Bigelow was going.
605
00:26:51,168 --> 00:26:54,962
There is only one
Bam Bam Bigelow!
606
00:26:54,962 --> 00:26:58,966
I think it was a little
too hardcore for me,
607
00:26:58,966 --> 00:27:01,469
being so young.
608
00:27:01,469 --> 00:27:03,429
♪
609
00:27:03,429 --> 00:27:05,222
Our fans were riding with us.
610
00:27:05,222 --> 00:27:06,641
That was the whole gimmick.
611
00:27:06,641 --> 00:27:08,142
We were renegades,
well dammit,
612
00:27:08,142 --> 00:27:10,852
we, the fans,
we're renegades too.
613
00:27:10,852 --> 00:27:15,607
From fit to finish
those shows were chaos.
614
00:27:15,607 --> 00:27:18,193
I remember this crowd
just like a mosh pit.
615
00:27:18,193 --> 00:27:21,613
And this dude who
is drunk as a skunk,
616
00:27:21,613 --> 00:27:24,282
comes barrelling and just
absolutely face punches me,
617
00:27:24,282 --> 00:27:26,326
and chucks me
right into the ground.
618
00:27:26,326 --> 00:27:27,869
You know, like
10, 11 years old.
619
00:27:27,869 --> 00:27:29,662
Like I've never been
hit by a grown man,
620
00:27:29,662 --> 00:27:32,790
and it's that type of, like,
where you're like- [Gasping]
621
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:34,083
You can't catch your breath.
622
00:27:34,083 --> 00:27:35,668
So I remember
going backstage,
623
00:27:35,668 --> 00:27:38,629
and I don't even think I
told my father anything,
624
00:27:38,629 --> 00:27:40,172
he just like saw it.
And he's like,
625
00:27:40,172 --> 00:27:42,049
"What happened?"
And I'm like,
626
00:27:42,049 --> 00:27:44,551
"I don't know,
this guy punched me,"
627
00:27:44,551 --> 00:27:47,095
like went through the crowd,
he's like, "Find him."
628
00:27:47,095 --> 00:27:49,764
The gentleman who did that
was escorted to the back
629
00:27:49,764 --> 00:27:51,808
for a conversation.
630
00:27:51,808 --> 00:27:54,769
I witnessed this
quasi conversation,
631
00:27:54,769 --> 00:27:56,145
I'll never forget it.
632
00:27:56,145 --> 00:27:58,439
And all you hear is, "So,
you wanna hit kids?"
633
00:27:58,439 --> 00:27:59,691
And you know that like,
634
00:27:59,691 --> 00:28:02,735
this dude is getting the
life smacked out of him.
635
00:28:02,735 --> 00:28:05,904
I don't know how else to
put it, it was very bad.
636
00:28:05,904 --> 00:28:09,116
[Laughing] I'm sure
everybody's OK now.
637
00:28:09,116 --> 00:28:13,161
But the fans in turn are
fuelled by ECW's over the top
638
00:28:13,161 --> 00:28:16,790
ultra-violent brand
of extreme wrestling.
639
00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:20,669
In ECW, we were a
bunch of wrestlers
640
00:28:20,669 --> 00:28:23,130
that most of the
bigger promotions,
641
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:24,714
they didn't want us, kinda.
642
00:28:24,714 --> 00:28:27,216
And we were like the
land of misfit toys.
643
00:28:27,216 --> 00:28:30,093
And it incorporated a lot of
new stuff into pro wrestling
644
00:28:30,093 --> 00:28:32,346
in a revolutionary way.
645
00:28:32,346 --> 00:28:34,682
I mean, you had to be tough
to be in our company,
646
00:28:34,682 --> 00:28:37,268
and Bigelow was a very
tough guy, a legitimate guy.
647
00:28:37,268 --> 00:28:39,687
And he really started to
come into his own,
648
00:28:39,687 --> 00:28:41,522
the months that
we were doing.
649
00:28:41,522 --> 00:28:43,690
The stuff that these
guys were doing,
650
00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:47,235
jumping off the rafters,
through tables,
651
00:28:47,235 --> 00:28:49,237
getting thrown
into the stands-
652
00:28:49,237 --> 00:28:51,990
It's just as hardcore
as hardcore can get.
653
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:53,533
Belly suplex!
654
00:28:53,533 --> 00:28:55,326
We weren't just trying
to hurt each other,
655
00:28:55,326 --> 00:28:56,619
we were professionals.
656
00:28:56,619 --> 00:28:58,747
What happens in that
ring is built on trust.
657
00:28:58,747 --> 00:29:02,124
So, the infamous
Taz and Bigelow
658
00:29:02,124 --> 00:29:05,294
go through the ring
in Asbury Park.
659
00:29:05,294 --> 00:29:09,256
So I get this phone call from
Paul Heyman, and um, he says,
660
00:29:09,256 --> 00:29:12,176
"You and Bigelow, he's
gonna beat you for the belt,
661
00:29:12,176 --> 00:29:14,261
and he's gonna put you
through the ring to do it."
662
00:29:14,261 --> 00:29:15,804
He goes,
"What do you think?"
663
00:29:15,804 --> 00:29:18,222
And the first thing I thought
is, "I'm gonna die."
664
00:29:18,222 --> 00:29:20,266
So, the way a ring
is constructed,
665
00:29:20,266 --> 00:29:23,019
it's a steel frame,
and then there's these
666
00:29:23,019 --> 00:29:24,896
thick wood boards,
667
00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:27,482
and then there's
kind of like a, uh, cushion.
668
00:29:27,482 --> 00:29:29,067
It's not as big as a mat.
669
00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:30,485
And then a canvas.
670
00:29:30,485 --> 00:29:32,862
So these wood boards
were cut first.
671
00:29:32,862 --> 00:29:35,406
So then the boards were just
moved out of the way,
672
00:29:35,406 --> 00:29:37,032
then opened a trap door.
673
00:29:37,032 --> 00:29:38,909
And Bam Bam
was concerned.
674
00:29:38,909 --> 00:29:40,368
"What about Taz's head?"
675
00:29:40,368 --> 00:29:42,370
Like, "His heads gonna hit
the frame of this thing.
676
00:29:42,370 --> 00:29:44,289
How are we going to
clear this hole?"
677
00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:46,458
I almost feel dirty
explaining this on here.
678
00:29:46,458 --> 00:29:47,793
[Off-screen]
[Laughing]
679
00:29:47,793 --> 00:29:50,253
I'm so old school,
it's ----ing like, unbelievable.
680
00:29:50,253 --> 00:29:53,673
So, basically, we fought,
fought, fought.
681
00:29:53,673 --> 00:29:56,258
We were outside the ring
for quite some time fighting
682
00:29:56,258 --> 00:30:00,971
until we get the signal
that this door is open.
683
00:30:00,971 --> 00:30:03,516
It's got both champion and
challenger back in the ring.
684
00:30:03,516 --> 00:30:05,559
So, if you watch closely...
685
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,686
He's got it!
He's got it locked up!
686
00:30:07,686 --> 00:30:10,523
When I have the choke on him-
and I'm really pulling it
687
00:30:10,523 --> 00:30:12,066
back this curtain all
the way here, right?
688
00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:14,901
So, Bam Bam,
he's tapping first.
689
00:30:14,901 --> 00:30:16,903
Then he puts his hand
on the top rope.
690
00:30:16,903 --> 00:30:20,406
Under his hand is a little
piece of white tape.
691
00:30:20,406 --> 00:30:25,245
That white tape was the
measurement to clear my head.
692
00:30:25,245 --> 00:30:29,499
[Cheering]
693
00:30:29,499 --> 00:30:31,667
We hit that crash mat
hard as hell.
694
00:30:31,667 --> 00:30:34,378
[Chanting]
ECW! ECW!
695
00:30:34,378 --> 00:30:37,464
The ring engulfs us.
And we heard the people.
696
00:30:37,464 --> 00:30:39,466
[Cheering]
697
00:30:39,466 --> 00:30:41,343
My eyes lit up,
I was so happy.
698
00:30:41,343 --> 00:30:43,929
And the first thing
he says to me,
699
00:30:43,929 --> 00:30:47,307
"Are you okay?"
That's Bam Bam Bigelow.
700
00:30:47,307 --> 00:30:49,684
And he goes,
"We ----in' did it!"
701
00:30:49,684 --> 00:30:51,144
And we were laughing,
702
00:30:51,144 --> 00:30:53,271
because the place
was rumbling.
703
00:30:53,271 --> 00:30:55,273
He waited for the people
to come down a teeny bit,
704
00:30:55,273 --> 00:30:57,859
and then once they
saw him come out first,
705
00:30:57,859 --> 00:30:59,652
we knew the pop would be
loud but I don't know
706
00:30:59,652 --> 00:31:00,736
if we knew it was
gonna be that loud.
707
00:31:00,736 --> 00:31:02,238
I mean, i was just...
708
00:31:02,238 --> 00:31:03,865
I'll never forget it
as long as I live.
709
00:31:03,865 --> 00:31:05,491
And we've got a new...
710
00:31:05,491 --> 00:31:06,534
I get goosebumps.
711
00:31:06,534 --> 00:31:08,452
...World Television
Champion!
712
00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:10,078
There are so many things
that could have gone wrong.
713
00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:12,164
You could break your back,
you could break your neck.
714
00:31:12,164 --> 00:31:15,292
Uh, but Scotty never
ever said no to anything.
715
00:31:15,292 --> 00:31:18,003
It's a small miracle
that Bigelow is moving.
716
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:27,678
You would see him come out,
he'd have, you know,
717
00:31:27,678 --> 00:31:29,930
giant gashes on his head,
and he would just put some
718
00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:31,473
superglue on it,
close it up,
719
00:31:31,473 --> 00:31:33,058
and then we would go
have a cheesesteak.
720
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:34,476
I can't tell you how many
times he's been
721
00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:35,811
sewed up in our living room.
722
00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:37,646
Doctor just would come over
and just sew him up
723
00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:39,482
in the middle of the night
while he was half asleep.
724
00:31:39,482 --> 00:31:43,485
So the injuries were the
beginning of the end.
725
00:31:43,485 --> 00:31:47,488
He had stenosis in the
entirety of his spine.
726
00:31:47,488 --> 00:31:49,324
He had crushed discs.
727
00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:52,744
He had sections fused of
his back at that time.
728
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,704
You could run your finger
down his spine and
729
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:57,332
you could feel,
almost like brail.
730
00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,418
Pills just allowed him
to move.
731
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:03,462
If you didn't go out and
you didn't put on a show,
732
00:32:03,462 --> 00:32:05,214
you weren't getting paid.
733
00:32:05,214 --> 00:32:09,092
So, I understand the aspect
of having to take something
734
00:32:09,092 --> 00:32:12,512
to basically push
you through that.
735
00:32:12,512 --> 00:32:15,724
I did see Bigelow struggling
a little bit physically,
736
00:32:15,724 --> 00:32:17,517
but he, he hid it well.
737
00:32:17,517 --> 00:32:19,728
He wouldn't tell you, if you
had to go over a match,
738
00:32:19,728 --> 00:32:21,896
"Hey dude, I'm hurting here,
my shoulder hurts,
739
00:32:21,896 --> 00:32:23,606
my neck hurts,
my back hurts."
740
00:32:23,606 --> 00:32:26,317
He was just, "Let's go."
You know, "Let's do it."
741
00:32:26,317 --> 00:32:29,570
You know,
whatever it was.
742
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:32,990
The pain pills Bam Bam
Bigelow consumes allow him
743
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:35,660
to continue performing
at the highest level,
744
00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:38,954
but they also take a toll on
his life away from the ring.
745
00:32:38,954 --> 00:32:41,706
He was never, never,
never aggressive.
746
00:32:41,706 --> 00:32:43,625
And he was always
very respectful.
747
00:32:43,625 --> 00:32:45,418
And he became angry.
748
00:32:45,418 --> 00:32:47,379
He would, at times,
be very coherent,
749
00:32:47,379 --> 00:32:49,506
and at times be
very incoherent.
750
00:32:49,506 --> 00:32:51,550
And he would be like,
"You are just crazy and
751
00:32:51,550 --> 00:32:52,926
you're making things up.
752
00:32:52,926 --> 00:32:55,387
I'm under a doctor's care,
and this is, you know,
753
00:32:55,387 --> 00:32:56,845
what I have to do to be
in the business."
754
00:32:56,845 --> 00:32:58,472
It was a doctor.
755
00:32:58,472 --> 00:33:01,100
An MD, who get paid
a lot of money,
756
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,227
to treat him for
one disease,
757
00:33:03,227 --> 00:33:06,563
and gave him another,
a whole other one.
758
00:33:06,563 --> 00:33:09,149
The pill bottles
from that doctor,
759
00:33:09,149 --> 00:33:11,402
I've never seen pill bottles
of that size
760
00:33:11,402 --> 00:33:12,903
in my life before.
761
00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:14,988
100 pills?
300 pills?
762
00:33:14,988 --> 00:33:16,614
His doctor was a fan,
763
00:33:16,614 --> 00:33:19,492
and he would have done
anything that Scott wanted,
764
00:33:19,492 --> 00:33:22,495
regardless of his license,
and he did.
765
00:33:22,495 --> 00:33:25,832
Scott was in denial
and so was the doctor,
766
00:33:25,832 --> 00:33:27,208
because I would
call him and say,
767
00:33:27,208 --> 00:33:28,918
"Stop writing these
prescriptions.
768
00:33:28,918 --> 00:33:31,671
You're destroying our lives.
You're ruining our family."
769
00:33:31,671 --> 00:33:33,630
And that doctor's response,
770
00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:35,215
he would call my
father and say that,
771
00:33:35,215 --> 00:33:37,843
"The warden's calling me
telling me not to come over."
772
00:33:37,843 --> 00:33:41,430
Undermining my mother
to my father
773
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:44,349
in an already
weakened state.
774
00:33:44,349 --> 00:33:46,977
Nobody's paying attention
to these doctors.
775
00:33:46,977 --> 00:33:48,979
You're a drug dealer.
776
00:33:48,979 --> 00:33:51,106
'Cause he was not
a pain doctor.
777
00:33:51,106 --> 00:33:52,273
It's a tragedy.
778
00:33:52,273 --> 00:33:56,736
Scott sold his soul
for OxyContins.
779
00:33:56,736 --> 00:33:58,487
And he would have stepped
over us in the street
780
00:33:58,487 --> 00:34:00,156
to get them.
781
00:34:00,156 --> 00:34:01,866
♪
782
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:09,165
Bam Bam Bigelow's addiction
continues to get worse,
783
00:34:09,165 --> 00:34:13,126
fuelled by an endless supply
of OxyContin from his doctor.
784
00:34:13,126 --> 00:34:16,338
OxyContin is one of
America's new wonder drugs.
785
00:34:16,338 --> 00:34:18,715
Since the drug came on the
market the number of annual
786
00:34:18,715 --> 00:34:21,885
prescriptions has risen
to nearly 6 million.
787
00:34:21,885 --> 00:34:24,012
Contributing to the
problem are pill mills,
788
00:34:24,012 --> 00:34:25,764
where doctors write
prescriptions for
789
00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:27,349
non-medical reasons.
790
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:30,142
He wasn't going to buy
drugs off the street.
791
00:34:30,142 --> 00:34:33,187
He was home
taking OxyContins.
792
00:34:33,187 --> 00:34:36,815
And then I got pregnant with
Ricci, and then the promises,
793
00:34:36,815 --> 00:34:38,567
you know, "This is
gonna be different.
794
00:34:38,567 --> 00:34:41,111
We're gonna get
through this."
795
00:34:41,111 --> 00:34:43,072
I think he tried to pull
himself together because
796
00:34:43,072 --> 00:34:44,740
he said he always wanted a
daughter his whole life.
797
00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:48,242
It was like beyond anything
to have this daughter,
798
00:34:48,242 --> 00:34:50,286
and when she was little he
used to put her to bed
799
00:34:50,286 --> 00:34:52,622
every single night, and he
would get a pillow and
800
00:34:52,622 --> 00:34:54,123
he would lay on
the floor next to her,
801
00:34:54,123 --> 00:34:55,792
and he would sing her songs,
and hold her hands.
802
00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:58,753
And he was in her room
on her floor every night.
803
00:34:58,753 --> 00:35:00,213
Wednesdays.
804
00:35:00,213 --> 00:35:03,716
Every Wednesday my dad would
pick me up from preschool.
805
00:35:03,716 --> 00:35:05,133
Big red truck.
806
00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:06,843
Eat all the Doritos
you could imagine.
807
00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:08,136
Paint pictures.
808
00:35:08,136 --> 00:35:11,556
Just, normal father-
daughter relationship.
809
00:35:11,556 --> 00:35:14,851
When he was around he was
focused on being with us and
810
00:35:14,851 --> 00:35:16,520
spending time with us.
811
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,022
How you doing, boy?
[Laughing]
812
00:35:19,022 --> 00:35:20,482
His body was a
little hindered,
813
00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:22,441
and he was starting
to feel the pain.
814
00:35:22,441 --> 00:35:25,861
But, you know that didn't
stop us from going to
815
00:35:25,861 --> 00:35:27,780
every opening day
for fishing.
816
00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:29,490
Every opening day
for hunting.
817
00:35:29,490 --> 00:35:30,908
He got to be a dad.
818
00:35:30,908 --> 00:35:33,702
So with Dad being on the road
300 plus days a year.
819
00:35:33,702 --> 00:35:36,163
Those are the
fondest memories.
820
00:35:36,163 --> 00:35:38,124
There's no pension in
professional wrestling.
821
00:35:38,124 --> 00:35:41,209
So, he needed to make as
822
00:35:41,209 --> 00:35:43,294
much money as he
could with the
823
00:35:43,294 --> 00:35:46,131
body that he had, 'cause he
knew it was deteriorating.
824
00:35:46,131 --> 00:35:48,174
He even says that he's
the highest paid loser
825
00:35:48,174 --> 00:35:49,843
in the world, because
he'll take a loss
826
00:35:49,843 --> 00:35:51,886
as long as that loss pays.
827
00:35:51,886 --> 00:35:56,015
I'm the guy who helped
bring Bam Bam in to WCW.
828
00:35:56,015 --> 00:35:58,809
When he heard that
I was wrestling,
829
00:35:58,809 --> 00:36:00,936
somehow he got my number,
he's like,
830
00:36:00,936 --> 00:36:02,563
"Dude, you're doing it."
831
00:36:02,563 --> 00:36:06,108
Like, we grew up maybe
7 miles from each other.
832
00:36:06,108 --> 00:36:07,901
These two Jersey Shore boys.
833
00:36:07,901 --> 00:36:09,945
But now we're
tag team champions.
834
00:36:09,945 --> 00:36:12,322
I never felt like he was
under the influence
835
00:36:12,322 --> 00:36:14,241
in the ring but, you know,
eventually, you know,
836
00:36:14,241 --> 00:36:16,201
people start to go back to
their old habits and
837
00:36:16,201 --> 00:36:18,161
that's why so
many guys died.
838
00:36:18,161 --> 00:36:21,122
Over consumption of pills.
839
00:36:21,122 --> 00:36:24,125
Because when you're
taking five at a time,
840
00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:26,294
'cause three
stopped working.
841
00:36:26,294 --> 00:36:28,421
[Sighing] I'm not,
you can't remember
842
00:36:28,421 --> 00:36:31,048
if you took them or not,
so you take five more.
843
00:36:31,048 --> 00:36:32,758
You know, and before
you know it-
844
00:36:32,758 --> 00:36:35,052
[Gagging]-
you're that guy.
845
00:36:35,052 --> 00:36:36,720
He went on the road and
846
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,056
he would not show up to
shows or tapings.
847
00:36:40,056 --> 00:36:43,602
He was in Arizona, and, um,
friends of ours were there,
848
00:36:43,602 --> 00:36:46,438
and he didn't make it to the
show and they called home.
849
00:36:46,438 --> 00:36:47,647
And I was like,
"What do you mean?
850
00:36:47,647 --> 00:36:49,983
He's there." It got to
the point where
851
00:36:49,983 --> 00:36:53,903
he was a liability, and
that's what they said.
852
00:36:53,903 --> 00:36:56,197
And they paid him the rest
of his contract to stay home
853
00:36:56,197 --> 00:36:59,116
because he could
not function.
854
00:36:59,116 --> 00:37:01,243
I saw a man broken.
855
00:37:01,243 --> 00:37:04,705
He's away from his family,
and he's not in the best
856
00:37:04,705 --> 00:37:07,625
physical shape because
he's in constant pain.
857
00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:10,002
You know, having to take a
pill just to get up.
858
00:37:10,002 --> 00:37:12,295
And not just a pill,
multiple pills.
859
00:37:12,295 --> 00:37:14,047
But the trade off
of that is
860
00:37:14,047 --> 00:37:15,757
it completely
dulls your senses,
861
00:37:15,757 --> 00:37:19,135
it completely just destroys
your sense of person.
862
00:37:21,346 --> 00:37:24,557
15, 20 OxyContins, easily.
863
00:37:24,557 --> 00:37:25,892
Yeah.
864
00:37:25,892 --> 00:37:27,060
It was dangerous.
865
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:28,978
And a situation happened
with the youngest
866
00:37:28,978 --> 00:37:31,522
where it became
very dangerous.
867
00:37:31,522 --> 00:37:33,774
I had wrote a paper about it
868
00:37:33,774 --> 00:37:35,651
when I was in 8th grade.
869
00:37:35,651 --> 00:37:38,278
And I went back and read it
last night understanding that
870
00:37:38,278 --> 00:37:40,030
what was happening was,
I'm writing about
871
00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:43,116
my father nodding out,
driving.
872
00:37:43,116 --> 00:37:44,576
And when I wrote that
in 8th grade
873
00:37:44,576 --> 00:37:47,246
I had no idea that's
what was going on.
874
00:37:47,246 --> 00:37:49,747
And I remember the officers
were asking me
875
00:37:49,747 --> 00:37:51,290
all these questions,
like, I mean,
876
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:52,250
for a three-year-old,
they're asking me
877
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:53,876
my address,
my phone number,
878
00:37:53,876 --> 00:37:55,836
my mom's phone number,
like all this information,
879
00:37:55,836 --> 00:37:59,298
and I'm just like, "I don't
know. Where's my dad?"
880
00:37:59,298 --> 00:38:01,551
So when I went back
last night and read it,
881
00:38:01,551 --> 00:38:03,427
really knowing
what was going on,
882
00:38:03,427 --> 00:38:08,014
what was in his system,
it just hits ten times harder.
883
00:38:08,014 --> 00:38:10,642
As Bam Bam Bigelow's
addiction sends him
884
00:38:10,642 --> 00:38:13,395
crashing to rock bottom,
he's charged with
885
00:38:13,395 --> 00:38:15,855
endangering the welfare
of his daughter.
886
00:38:15,855 --> 00:38:17,357
He was given an
ultimatum. I'm like,
887
00:38:17,357 --> 00:38:18,900
"You've either
gotta go get help,
888
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:20,527
or you have to go."
889
00:38:20,527 --> 00:38:23,405
He wouldn't get help,
and he went.
890
00:38:23,405 --> 00:38:26,198
He didn't see that he had a
problem the way that he did,
891
00:38:26,198 --> 00:38:28,534
and the way
that addicts do.
892
00:38:28,534 --> 00:38:30,452
And you know, Dad's not
gonna be home anymore,
893
00:38:30,452 --> 00:38:32,371
they're getting a divorce.
894
00:38:32,371 --> 00:38:35,332
That's when he picked up and
basically went to Florida.
895
00:38:35,332 --> 00:38:37,543
He was married to a drug.
896
00:38:37,543 --> 00:38:39,295
So to watch a man who
would choose that
897
00:38:39,295 --> 00:38:41,589
over his children, when I
knew that that was
898
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:42,672
the most important thing,
899
00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:44,173
was just the
worst thing ever.
900
00:38:44,173 --> 00:38:47,010
And I got to talk to him on
the phone, but it would be,
901
00:38:47,010 --> 00:38:49,637
like, spans of where it
would be really quiet,
902
00:38:49,637 --> 00:38:52,181
because I could
hear him crying.
903
00:38:52,181 --> 00:38:57,687
He was struggling to
form the words, "Hi."
904
00:38:57,687 --> 00:39:01,189
I went down to Tampa,
spring break my senior year.
905
00:39:01,189 --> 00:39:03,609
I wanted to go down there to
see my friends but I really
906
00:39:03,609 --> 00:39:05,402
just wanted to go down
there to find my dad.
907
00:39:05,402 --> 00:39:09,281
And um-
[Sighing]-
908
00:39:09,281 --> 00:39:11,241
His girlfriend
answered the phone,
909
00:39:11,241 --> 00:39:14,453
said he wasn't available at
that point in time,
910
00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:17,623
and then I got a phone call
when I landed back in
911
00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,625
New Jersey from my
father, apologizing.
912
00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:23,586
And uh, you know I kind of
aired him out a little bit,
913
00:39:23,586 --> 00:39:27,298
told him how I felt,
um...
914
00:39:27,298 --> 00:39:29,133
and then he died.
915
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:33,137
Three weeks later.
916
00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:35,431
I was in school,
teaching,
917
00:39:35,431 --> 00:39:37,766
and a phone call got
patched to my classroom,
918
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,851
and it was his
brother, Todd.
919
00:39:39,851 --> 00:39:42,979
And Todd said,
"He's gone."
920
00:39:42,979 --> 00:39:44,272
I was like,
"What do you mean?"
921
00:39:44,272 --> 00:39:45,607
He's like, "He's gone."
922
00:39:45,607 --> 00:39:47,108
And he was
crying hysterically,
923
00:39:47,108 --> 00:39:49,694
and I just hung up the phone
and ran out of the building,
924
00:39:49,694 --> 00:39:52,113
and Shane was in college.
925
00:39:52,113 --> 00:39:55,200
Yeah, I got that call.
I'll never forget it.
926
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,534
I'm walking back
through the quad,
927
00:39:57,534 --> 00:40:00,162
there's kids going to class,
and I got a phone call
928
00:40:00,162 --> 00:40:02,748
from my father's
childhood friend.
929
00:40:02,748 --> 00:40:05,584
"Your father died
last night."
930
00:40:05,584 --> 00:40:07,586
And it just like...
everybody around you is
931
00:40:07,586 --> 00:40:11,256
moving fast and
you're just still.
932
00:40:11,256 --> 00:40:13,676
I just remember being numb.
933
00:40:13,676 --> 00:40:16,302
[Exhaling sharply]
It rocked me.
934
00:40:16,302 --> 00:40:21,766
What I heard, um,
at that time, he was, uh,
935
00:40:21,766 --> 00:40:24,435
you know, going through
a tough time.
936
00:40:24,435 --> 00:40:26,229
I thought of his
family instantly,
937
00:40:26,229 --> 00:40:28,106
because I know how much
he loved his family and
938
00:40:28,106 --> 00:40:30,858
his wife, you know,
I just felt for them.
939
00:40:30,858 --> 00:40:32,984
He died of an overdose.
940
00:40:32,984 --> 00:40:35,112
Accidental overdose, but...
941
00:40:35,112 --> 00:40:36,530
you know the word
accidental and overdose
942
00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:38,073
should just not be in
the same sentence.
943
00:40:38,073 --> 00:40:41,201
How do you accidentally,
"Oops!" Took one too many?
944
00:40:41,201 --> 00:40:43,161
He took one too many
for a long time.
945
00:40:43,161 --> 00:40:45,455
♪
946
00:40:49,751 --> 00:40:52,962
On January 19th, 2007,
947
00:40:52,962 --> 00:40:55,297
at just 45 years of age,
948
00:40:55,297 --> 00:40:58,300
Bam Bam Bigelow dies by
what authorities call an
949
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:01,095
accidental overdose,
from a cocktail of
950
00:41:01,095 --> 00:41:03,097
illicit and
prescription drugs.
951
00:41:03,097 --> 00:41:04,765
I didn't grieve.
952
00:41:04,765 --> 00:41:07,935
There was none for me,
because I was scrambling.
953
00:41:07,935 --> 00:41:09,769
I had kids, they couldn't
see me break down.
954
00:41:09,769 --> 00:41:12,272
They couldn't see me weak.
955
00:41:12,272 --> 00:41:14,190
And that's all I became,
was a provider.
956
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:17,444
Like, I didn't have time
to coddle and nurture.
957
00:41:17,444 --> 00:41:19,696
That's the hardest
part on me now.
958
00:41:19,696 --> 00:41:23,408
Towards the end it was very
difficult with my mother.
959
00:41:23,408 --> 00:41:26,327
Just because, that was
my dad, that was my hero.
960
00:41:26,327 --> 00:41:29,037
My mom had to make a
really tough decision.
961
00:41:29,037 --> 00:41:30,998
You know, for a while I
never understood
962
00:41:30,998 --> 00:41:33,959
why we couldn't
just go see dad.
963
00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:36,211
And when you don't
understand
964
00:41:36,211 --> 00:41:38,213
you just think it's selfish.
965
00:41:38,213 --> 00:41:40,090
But then when you do,
966
00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:43,469
you become appreciative
that you weren't
967
00:41:43,469 --> 00:41:45,845
exposed to something
that would've been
968
00:41:45,845 --> 00:41:48,055
just so heart breaking.
969
00:41:48,055 --> 00:41:51,225
As a father I think it just
digs into you that
970
00:41:51,225 --> 00:41:55,354
when you think, if there was
no compunction for
971
00:41:55,354 --> 00:41:57,273
Bammer to reach out for
some kind of help,
972
00:41:57,273 --> 00:42:00,318
that he must have thought
that he had it under control.
973
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:02,695
He must have figured this is
not really a problem.
974
00:42:02,695 --> 00:42:04,863
Because of how much he
talked about his kids.
975
00:42:04,863 --> 00:42:07,365
It's been just-
[Sighing]-
976
00:42:07,365 --> 00:42:09,659
honouring the
legacy of Bam Bam.
977
00:42:09,659 --> 00:42:11,119
Now collision course!
978
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,164
I never really got to stop
and acknowledge my own pain.
979
00:42:14,164 --> 00:42:18,126
You always think about if
you had one last chance
980
00:42:18,126 --> 00:42:21,754
what you would say.
I think there's more ask.
981
00:42:21,754 --> 00:42:23,714
Just why?
982
00:42:23,714 --> 00:42:26,550
His kids lost their dad
at a young age.
983
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:29,428
It's sad, you know, because
Bigelow like so many of us
984
00:42:29,428 --> 00:42:31,764
wrestlers during that time,
was on the road a lot.
985
00:42:31,764 --> 00:42:33,307
You know,
you're not around.
986
00:42:33,307 --> 00:42:34,892
You're making a living
for your family.
987
00:42:38,354 --> 00:42:39,979
You mother----er.
988
00:42:39,979 --> 00:42:42,524
But, through
years of therapy,
989
00:42:42,524 --> 00:42:44,442
I know you had no control.
990
00:42:44,442 --> 00:42:46,444
It's not your fault.
I don't blame you.
991
00:42:46,444 --> 00:42:48,696
♪
992
00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,698
You know nobody wakes up
in the morning and says,
993
00:42:50,698 --> 00:42:52,617
"I'm gonna be
a drug addict today."
994
00:42:52,617 --> 00:42:54,035
You wake up every morning
and you're like,
995
00:42:54,035 --> 00:42:55,787
"Today is gonna
be a change."
996
00:42:55,787 --> 00:42:58,038
But I would call him a
mother----er first.
997
00:42:58,038 --> 00:43:01,041
Just 'cause he
would expect that.
998
00:43:01,041 --> 00:43:04,169
I can't fault him
for what happened.
999
00:43:04,169 --> 00:43:05,963
You had to keep going.
1000
00:43:05,963 --> 00:43:07,589
That's how you put the
bread on the table.
1001
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:09,174
I signed all the rights
over to the kids,
1002
00:43:09,174 --> 00:43:10,884
so they got all the
royalty cheques.
1003
00:43:10,884 --> 00:43:13,929
So he, in his death,
still supported them.
1004
00:43:16,973 --> 00:43:19,725
Nobody.
There's nobody.
1005
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:33,573
When I think of pro wrestling
I think of power,
1006
00:43:33,573 --> 00:43:36,366
I think of size,
I think of my father.
1007
00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:39,619
World heavyweight champion,
1008
00:43:39,619 --> 00:43:44,124
The Beast from the East,
Bam Bam Bigelow!
1009
00:43:44,124 --> 00:43:46,918
He was a great person,
and how he lived and
1010
00:43:46,918 --> 00:43:48,962
all the wonderful things
that he did for people,
1011
00:43:48,962 --> 00:43:50,964
and the great father
that he was,
1012
00:43:50,964 --> 00:43:52,548
should be what
is remembered.
1013
00:43:52,548 --> 00:43:55,926
Not how he died, because
that's a terrible story,
1014
00:43:55,926 --> 00:43:57,845
but he left such a legacy.
1015
00:43:57,845 --> 00:43:59,972
Bam Bam!
Look at that maneuver!
1016
00:43:59,972 --> 00:44:01,265
[Laughing]
1017
00:44:01,265 --> 00:44:03,017
He was that 1%.
1018
00:44:03,067 --> 00:44:07,617
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