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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Have you ever seen a confession case, 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Sean?Have you ever seen him confess?I 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,440 saw-- I saw a a 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,121 clip of him in the 5 00:00:19,121 --> 00:00:22,001 interrogation room. As far as the 6 00:00:22,001 --> 00:00:24,801 full confession video, I have not 7 00:00:24,801 --> 00:00:27,761 seen. No. We have some 8 00:00:27,761 --> 00:00:29,521 of that confession video here. Is that 9 00:00:29,521 --> 00:00:31,041 something you'd be willing to look at 10 00:00:31,041 --> 00:00:33,521 with us?I would be interested to 11 00:00:34,001 --> 00:00:34,801 to view that, yeah. 12 00:00:39,521 --> 00:00:41,401 The day this happened, when did you 13 00:00:41,401 --> 00:00:43,201 decide that you were going to kill this 14 00:00:43,201 --> 00:00:46,081 person?Probably 15 00:00:46,081 --> 00:00:47,281 before she got in the car, because I 16 00:00:47,281 --> 00:00:48,561 think I was just looking for somebody to 17 00:00:49,441 --> 00:00:49,841 kill. 18 00:00:59,762 --> 00:01:01,162 I got out of the car. When I got out of 19 00:01:01,162 --> 00:01:02,282 the car, I had a knife sitting there 20 00:01:02,482 --> 00:01:04,642 beside my leg. I grabbed a knife and 21 00:01:04,962 --> 00:01:06,802 walked around to where she was at. It's 22 00:01:14,362 --> 00:01:14,882 hard, huh 23 00:01:20,002 --> 00:01:20,802 Not for him, 24 00:01:24,162 --> 00:01:25,122 for his victims. 25 00:01:27,682 --> 00:01:29,003 It took me a long time to... It 26 00:01:37,443 --> 00:01:39,523 took me a long time to stop, stop feeling 27 00:01:39,523 --> 00:01:42,443 sorry for him. It 28 00:01:42,443 --> 00:01:44,763 was feeling bad for the wrong person. 29 00:02:38,645 --> 00:02:40,005 I've never seen this picture before. 30 00:02:42,165 --> 00:02:43,885 Why we were laughing so much, I don't 31 00:02:43,885 --> 00:02:45,285 know. I can't remember, but 32 00:02:47,245 --> 00:02:47,925 that's a good picture. 33 00:02:51,285 --> 00:02:53,445 I have good memories of me and him. 34 00:02:55,925 --> 00:02:58,045 I mean, that's one thing you can't take 35 00:02:58,045 --> 00:02:59,725 away from somebody is their memories. And 36 00:02:59,925 --> 00:03:02,805 I wouldn't throw away our good memories 37 00:03:04,005 --> 00:03:06,805 because of what he ended up being and 38 00:03:06,885 --> 00:03:09,845 what he ended up doing. I love 39 00:03:09,845 --> 00:03:12,525 him. He was my big brother. He was a good 40 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:13,205 older brother. 41 00:03:39,286 --> 00:03:41,086 He learned at an early age that if there 42 00:03:41,086 --> 00:03:43,606 was something that he wanted, regardless 43 00:03:43,606 --> 00:03:45,126 of if it was his or not, he would just go 44 00:03:45,126 --> 00:03:48,046 get it, take it. It 45 00:03:48,046 --> 00:03:50,007 always fascinated me that he didn't care 46 00:03:50,087 --> 00:03:52,007 if they knew that he took it, but he 47 00:03:52,007 --> 00:03:52,967 would take it anyway. 48 00:03:55,127 --> 00:03:56,127 And he would take anything. 49 00:04:02,087 --> 00:04:04,407 There was a couple of girls that were our 50 00:04:04,407 --> 00:04:06,847 age that each had a bike. Three 51 00:04:06,847 --> 00:04:09,687 sisters, three different bicycles. 52 00:04:10,887 --> 00:04:13,647 And Patrick had convinced 53 00:04:13,647 --> 00:04:15,607 me that we should steal their bikes. 54 00:04:16,687 --> 00:04:18,447 All we need to do is switch the parts, 55 00:04:18,567 --> 00:04:19,767 and they won't know they're the same 56 00:04:19,767 --> 00:04:22,567 bikes. I thought that was a foolproof 57 00:04:22,567 --> 00:04:24,608 plan. They're never going to know that 58 00:04:24,608 --> 00:04:27,328 these are their bikes. Being a younger 59 00:04:27,328 --> 00:04:30,128 brother, it it was difficult to say no to 60 00:04:30,128 --> 00:04:32,808 Patrick. And it was maybe a couple of 61 00:04:32,808 --> 00:04:34,488 hours that we were out there riding our 62 00:04:34,488 --> 00:04:36,768 new bikes. And a short time later, the 63 00:04:36,768 --> 00:04:37,688 sheriff showed up. 64 00:04:44,168 --> 00:04:46,728 I was terrified. I was absolutely 65 00:04:46,728 --> 00:04:49,688 terrified. I didn't want to go to jail. 66 00:04:52,808 --> 00:04:55,408 Patrick, on the other hand, it it didn't 67 00:04:55,408 --> 00:04:57,928 affect him. Where these bikes from? 68 00:05:01,929 --> 00:05:04,889 You could tell looking at him that 69 00:05:04,889 --> 00:05:06,289 he didn't think it was wrong. 70 00:05:14,169 --> 00:05:15,929 Well, we would go to visit people that 71 00:05:15,929 --> 00:05:17,649 had kids. 72 00:05:18,969 --> 00:05:21,769 Patrick was crazy about cars, matchbox 73 00:05:21,769 --> 00:05:22,169 cars. 74 00:05:26,969 --> 00:05:28,809 We would have to check his pockets before 75 00:05:28,809 --> 00:05:31,729 we left, because he would put the 76 00:05:32,089 --> 00:05:34,570 the cars or anything else that he wanted 77 00:05:34,770 --> 00:05:35,690 in his pockets. 78 00:05:38,650 --> 00:05:41,450 AndHe couldn't understand, 79 00:05:41,770 --> 00:05:44,010 you know, why he can't take these things. 80 00:05:45,530 --> 00:05:48,490 It never registered with him that 81 00:05:48,490 --> 00:05:49,930 they don't belong to him. 82 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:01,770 I remember her saying to us that if you 83 00:06:01,770 --> 00:06:03,650 guys want to act like criminals, then 84 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:04,970 you're going to eat like criminals. 85 00:06:06,490 --> 00:06:08,810 And that night for dinner, we got a glass 86 00:06:08,810 --> 00:06:10,731 of water and two slices of bread. 87 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:13,691 We had to spend the whole weekend in our 88 00:06:13,691 --> 00:06:16,171 room. We couldn't go outside and 89 00:06:16,171 --> 00:06:19,051 play, and it it didn't bother him. It 90 00:06:19,051 --> 00:06:21,771 just, it didn't bother him. I don't think 91 00:06:21,771 --> 00:06:24,171 any punishment that he got was a 92 00:06:24,171 --> 00:06:25,131 deterrent for him. 93 00:06:28,571 --> 00:06:30,091 I knew what was right and what was wrong, 94 00:06:30,091 --> 00:06:31,931 and I don't think he ever had that 95 00:06:31,971 --> 00:06:34,571 mechanism in his brain to tell him what 96 00:06:34,571 --> 00:06:35,451 was and what wasn't. 97 00:06:49,212 --> 00:06:50,452 I remember the time that Patrick 98 00:06:50,452 --> 00:06:52,172 convinced me to get into a closed trunk. 99 00:06:55,932 --> 00:06:57,772 I don't know if I want to play this game. 100 00:06:58,172 --> 00:07:00,492 Come on, don't be a baby, it's fun. He 101 00:07:00,492 --> 00:07:03,412 said he would only keep me 102 00:07:03,412 --> 00:07:05,212 in there for a couple of seconds. All you 103 00:07:05,212 --> 00:07:06,772 need to do is get inside and count to 104 00:07:06,772 --> 00:07:09,172 100. He'll let me out if I get scared? 105 00:07:09,372 --> 00:07:11,452 Yes, I'll let you out if you get scared. 106 00:07:11,692 --> 00:07:14,572 Promise. So I 107 00:07:14,572 --> 00:07:16,852 agreed to do it. I got into the trunk. And 108 00:07:23,053 --> 00:07:23,933 he wouldn't let me out. 109 00:07:31,853 --> 00:07:34,453 Terrified me. Absolutely terrified me. It 110 00:07:34,453 --> 00:07:35,053 was hot. 111 00:07:37,293 --> 00:07:39,373 Not much air left in there when you're 112 00:07:39,373 --> 00:07:40,373 screaming and yelling. 113 00:07:45,453 --> 00:07:46,813 He kept me in there for a while. 114 00:07:52,413 --> 00:07:54,413 He was grabbing the handles and shaking 115 00:07:54,413 --> 00:07:54,653 it. 116 00:07:59,374 --> 00:08:01,174 My father was at work. It was just me and 117 00:08:01,174 --> 00:08:03,694 him at the house. Basically, 118 00:08:04,414 --> 00:08:06,974 I had to wait for him to to open it. 119 00:08:09,294 --> 00:08:09,974 Very traumatic. 120 00:08:14,574 --> 00:08:15,894 He eventually let me out. 121 00:08:24,574 --> 00:08:27,534 But if he had sympathy... 122 00:08:33,055 --> 00:08:35,855 I don't think he did. I 123 00:08:35,855 --> 00:08:37,695 can't think of any time that there was 124 00:08:37,695 --> 00:08:40,375 sympathy. I don't 125 00:08:40,975 --> 00:08:43,655 recall ever him 126 00:08:43,655 --> 00:08:46,575 apologizing about anything to 127 00:08:46,575 --> 00:08:48,255 me. Ever. 128 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:04,975 He was so depressed when he was younger, 129 00:09:05,936 --> 00:09:08,496 and he didn't seem to enjoy doing 130 00:09:08,576 --> 00:09:11,376 anything. I worried about 131 00:09:11,376 --> 00:09:14,336 him all the time. You 132 00:09:14,336 --> 00:09:16,736 mean there's nothing more you can do?I 133 00:09:16,816 --> 00:09:19,056 took him to a psychologist, 134 00:09:20,016 --> 00:09:22,256 and after a few visits, the the doctor 135 00:09:22,256 --> 00:09:24,336 told me, you know, you don't have to 136 00:09:24,336 --> 00:09:26,216 bring him back because he won't talk to 137 00:09:26,256 --> 00:09:29,176 me. Patrick, 138 00:09:30,496 --> 00:09:33,376 please, you need to tell me what's going 139 00:09:33,376 --> 00:09:36,256 on. I would ask him, why do 140 00:09:36,256 --> 00:09:38,176 you do this?You know, why, why do you do 141 00:09:38,176 --> 00:09:39,216 these things?And 142 00:09:41,217 --> 00:09:43,457 he didn't have an answer, you know, or he 143 00:09:43,457 --> 00:09:44,417 wouldn't answer. 144 00:09:51,377 --> 00:09:53,937 I tried, but there was, 145 00:09:55,497 --> 00:09:57,257 there was nothing I could do to help him. 146 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:17,378 I'll never know what pushed him over the 147 00:10:17,458 --> 00:10:19,898 edge, but, I mean, once he got over to 148 00:10:19,898 --> 00:10:22,098 the other side of the edge, there was no 149 00:10:22,098 --> 00:10:22,818 way to get out. 150 00:10:37,618 --> 00:10:39,618 The older he got, the bigger his crimes 151 00:10:39,618 --> 00:10:42,578 got. It was so easy for 152 00:10:42,578 --> 00:10:44,738 him to just pick a house out in the 153 00:10:44,738 --> 00:10:46,538 neighborhood and go, I'm going to break 154 00:10:46,538 --> 00:10:49,458 into it. As 155 00:10:49,458 --> 00:10:51,459 simple as me getting up and going, well, 156 00:10:51,459 --> 00:10:53,539 I'm going to wear a blue shirt today. 157 00:10:55,859 --> 00:10:58,779 I look back now, and I don't think it was 158 00:10:58,779 --> 00:11:00,459 ever about the money for him. I think it 159 00:11:00,459 --> 00:11:03,219 was the rush of just doing the 160 00:11:03,699 --> 00:11:04,419 the stealing. It 161 00:11:07,379 --> 00:11:09,859 didn't matter who it affected. The older 162 00:11:09,859 --> 00:11:12,819 he got, he needed more. He needed 163 00:11:12,819 --> 00:11:14,019 that bigger fix. 164 00:11:25,379 --> 00:11:27,900 I can't tell you how many times, from the 165 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,700 time he went in the juvenile for the 166 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:31,700 first time to the last time he was on 167 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,460 death row, how many times in between he 168 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:36,020 was in and out of jail. I I can't even 169 00:11:36,020 --> 00:11:37,860 begin to tell you. I mean, 170 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:40,500 he didn't care. 171 00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:46,660 It just baffled me that it didn't faze 172 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:46,820 him. 173 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:03,221 Sheriff asked me to come with him. And I 174 00:12:03,221 --> 00:12:05,061 asked him why. And he said that 175 00:12:06,021 --> 00:12:08,021 there's suspicion that I broke into a 176 00:12:08,021 --> 00:12:10,421 couple of the houses. Were you anywhere 177 00:12:10,421 --> 00:12:12,981 near that house?No, No I 178 00:12:12,981 --> 00:12:15,701 wasn't at all. Money was taken, 179 00:12:15,941 --> 00:12:18,141 stereo equipment. They saw a 180 00:12:18,261 --> 00:12:21,221 blonde-haired kid in the area. 181 00:12:22,261 --> 00:12:24,341 I had blonde hair. I didn't steal 182 00:12:24,341 --> 00:12:26,501 anything. I I would never do that. They 183 00:12:26,501 --> 00:12:29,301 wanted to take prints of my 184 00:12:29,301 --> 00:12:31,421 sneakers. And if they matched the ones 185 00:12:31,421 --> 00:12:32,901 that we got from the crime scene, you 186 00:12:32,901 --> 00:12:33,941 know, you're going to be charged with 187 00:12:34,021 --> 00:12:36,942 with breaking in. It scared the hell 188 00:12:36,942 --> 00:12:38,902 out of me. I mean, I I knew I didn't do 189 00:12:38,902 --> 00:12:39,302 this. 190 00:12:42,822 --> 00:12:44,102 The whole time Patrick was waiting 191 00:12:44,102 --> 00:12:44,742 outside. 192 00:12:49,062 --> 00:12:50,422 When we got out of the sheriff's 193 00:12:50,422 --> 00:12:52,502 department, he admitted that he did it. 194 00:12:52,502 --> 00:12:54,742 But how did my shoes end up there? 195 00:12:57,382 --> 00:13:00,182 Because I wore them. That it was 196 00:13:00,182 --> 00:13:02,982 him that had broken into the houses 197 00:13:04,262 --> 00:13:05,542 and that he had used a pair of my 198 00:13:05,542 --> 00:13:07,862 sneakers. I could have been arrested. 199 00:13:07,862 --> 00:13:09,102 Yeah, but you weren't. 200 00:13:10,822 --> 00:13:13,703 I was furious. And I'm looking at him in 201 00:13:13,703 --> 00:13:14,423 his eyes, 202 00:13:16,663 --> 00:13:19,103 thinking, why?Why are you doing this?I 203 00:13:20,343 --> 00:13:22,023 could have turned him in. As soon as he 204 00:13:22,023 --> 00:13:24,743 told me that it was him that 205 00:13:24,743 --> 00:13:26,983 broke in and used my sneakers, 206 00:13:28,103 --> 00:13:30,823 I could have. And I didn't. I 207 00:13:31,703 --> 00:13:34,263 I don't know why. I don't know why I 208 00:13:34,263 --> 00:13:34,983 protected him. 209 00:13:40,503 --> 00:13:41,863 They dropped the charges against me 210 00:13:41,863 --> 00:13:43,463 because my sneakers didn't match. 211 00:13:44,823 --> 00:13:46,504 The fact that I had two pairs of sneakers 212 00:13:46,944 --> 00:13:48,344 and the ones that I was wearing were not 213 00:13:48,344 --> 00:13:49,464 the ones that he used, 214 00:13:51,544 --> 00:13:52,744 kept me from going to jail. 215 00:13:55,624 --> 00:13:57,144 You look back now and you wonder, well, 216 00:13:57,944 --> 00:14:00,264 what if I did get charged for it?He 217 00:14:00,344 --> 00:14:02,704 stepped up and said, hey, it wasn't my 218 00:14:02,704 --> 00:14:04,824 little brother, it was me. I don't know. 219 00:14:07,224 --> 00:14:08,984 I can't remember my mother's reaction 220 00:14:08,984 --> 00:14:11,624 after, but they did argue 221 00:14:12,824 --> 00:14:15,144 about what he did, his actions. 222 00:14:16,504 --> 00:14:19,024 She knew it was him. She She knew it was 223 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:21,905 him. You're still doing this. What is 224 00:14:22,145 --> 00:14:24,665 wrong with you?There were arguments, a 225 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:28,025 lot of arguments. There was one 226 00:14:28,025 --> 00:14:30,745 time that I was 227 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:33,145 really afraid of him. I didn't raise you 228 00:14:33,145 --> 00:14:33,945 to do this. 229 00:14:36,025 --> 00:14:38,825 Don't walk away from me. I am talking to 230 00:14:38,825 --> 00:14:41,465 you, Patrick. I had followed him into his 231 00:14:41,465 --> 00:14:44,345 room. I am so sick of this. I 232 00:14:44,345 --> 00:14:47,225 was yelling. He was yelling. 233 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:48,345 Look at me. 234 00:14:53,385 --> 00:14:56,185 And there was a baseball bat in 235 00:14:56,185 --> 00:14:56,425 there. 236 00:15:04,746 --> 00:15:07,626 He holds it up, and just for a split 237 00:15:07,626 --> 00:15:10,346 second, in his eyes, I could tell that he 238 00:15:10,346 --> 00:15:11,706 wanted to hit me with that. 239 00:15:13,706 --> 00:15:15,146 Just a split second. 240 00:15:16,826 --> 00:15:18,266 And then it was gone. 241 00:15:21,746 --> 00:15:22,906 And he put the bat down. 242 00:15:28,026 --> 00:15:29,946 I think that was the only time that I was 243 00:15:29,946 --> 00:15:31,226 ever afraid of him. 244 00:15:44,507 --> 00:15:46,667 Patrick was in jail in Georgia. 245 00:15:47,787 --> 00:15:50,267 My father had gotten a new 246 00:15:50,267 --> 00:15:53,067 apartment, and it was going to be 247 00:15:53,267 --> 00:15:55,147 a new, fresh start for me and my father. 248 00:15:57,547 --> 00:15:59,867 One day, I got a knock on the apartment 249 00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:01,827 door, and I opened it up. 250 00:16:03,067 --> 00:16:04,827 And it was Patrick. Hey, Sean. 251 00:16:06,747 --> 00:16:09,628 Patrick?I had not seen Patrick for 252 00:16:10,588 --> 00:16:12,748 three or four years. He said, I just got 253 00:16:12,748 --> 00:16:15,068 out of jail in Georgia, and I'm up here 254 00:16:15,068 --> 00:16:18,028 to to make a new start. I was wondering 255 00:16:18,028 --> 00:16:19,308 if I could stay with you and Dad. Of 256 00:16:21,628 --> 00:16:24,508 course. Every time I saw my brother after 257 00:16:24,508 --> 00:16:26,268 him getting out of jail for a long period 258 00:16:26,268 --> 00:16:28,428 of time, it was always good to see him. 259 00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:29,868 Of course. 260 00:16:32,428 --> 00:16:34,668 Thanks, ma'am. I always wanted to give 261 00:16:34,668 --> 00:16:36,588 him another shot. It was my brother. 262 00:16:38,668 --> 00:16:40,988 But it's hard to be happy 263 00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:44,189 because you know he's only gonna 264 00:16:44,189 --> 00:16:46,749 be out for a little bit. He was never out 265 00:16:46,749 --> 00:16:49,149 longer than maybe a year and a half. 266 00:16:49,629 --> 00:16:51,709 from each time he was in and out of jail. 267 00:16:56,149 --> 00:16:56,829 So what do you think, Dad? 268 00:16:59,469 --> 00:17:01,549 My father said, OK, these are the rules. 269 00:17:02,149 --> 00:17:04,309 You don't steal, you don't lie, you get a 270 00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:06,549 job. And And 271 00:17:07,469 --> 00:17:09,709 Patrick said, OK. I promise. 272 00:17:12,349 --> 00:17:15,309 All right. So Patrick moved in, and 273 00:17:15,309 --> 00:17:18,190 things were good for a while. 274 00:17:22,190 --> 00:17:24,310 He met a girl in the apartment building. 275 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:27,310 They instantly fell in love. 276 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:30,030 I love you so much. I love you 277 00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:34,990 too. It wasn't long after that that she'd 278 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:37,150 announced that she was pregnant. The 279 00:17:37,150 --> 00:17:39,310 twins, a boy and a girl. 280 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:43,910 And that was the happiest I'd 281 00:17:43,910 --> 00:17:45,390 ever seen Patrick, ever. 282 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:50,990 ButIn the back of my head, I I knew it 283 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:52,270 was just a ticking time bomb. 284 00:18:02,811 --> 00:18:04,131 That's when things started changing. 285 00:18:05,931 --> 00:18:08,411 He became very, very obsessive with 286 00:18:08,651 --> 00:18:11,211 trying to get her back, because she still 287 00:18:11,211 --> 00:18:13,451 was going to give birth to his son. 288 00:18:14,571 --> 00:18:15,691 I can make this work. I 289 00:18:18,411 --> 00:18:21,211 can make this work. He wasn't coming 290 00:18:21,211 --> 00:18:24,191 home each night. as much as he used 291 00:18:25,951 --> 00:18:28,672 to. Where he was going, I don't know. But 292 00:18:29,072 --> 00:18:31,472 I don't think me or anybody else had any 293 00:18:31,472 --> 00:18:33,392 idea of what was going to happen. 294 00:18:35,392 --> 00:18:37,952 He went from the happiest guy in the 295 00:18:37,952 --> 00:18:40,472 world to to the 296 00:18:40,472 --> 00:18:43,112 evilest person I know in such a 297 00:18:43,112 --> 00:18:44,192 short amount of time. 298 00:18:46,272 --> 00:18:49,112 And I didn't 299 00:18:49,112 --> 00:18:51,072 expect what what he did. 300 00:19:03,073 --> 00:19:06,033 I know I can change. I can make 301 00:19:06,033 --> 00:19:08,753 this work. His girlfriend had pushed him 302 00:19:08,753 --> 00:19:11,233 away, and he he 303 00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:13,953 couldn't handle that. You will 304 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:14,833 never change. 305 00:19:16,993 --> 00:19:18,993 He started acting differently. 306 00:19:21,873 --> 00:19:23,633 He wanted to hang himself. 307 00:19:31,473 --> 00:19:33,713 He tied a rope around the ceiling 308 00:19:35,033 --> 00:19:36,753 and tied the other end of the rope around 309 00:19:36,753 --> 00:19:38,834 his neck. Come on, come on, come on 310 00:19:39,954 --> 00:19:42,354 You can't do it. He waited 311 00:19:43,234 --> 00:19:44,034 several minutes. 312 00:19:47,114 --> 00:19:48,154 Come on! Come on 313 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:54,914 But he chickened out. 314 00:19:59,394 --> 00:20:00,354 He couldn't kill himself. 315 00:20:05,154 --> 00:20:06,434 Had he not chickened out, 316 00:20:09,034 --> 00:20:11,234 yeah the world would have been a better 317 00:20:11,234 --> 00:20:11,794 place. 318 00:20:25,795 --> 00:20:28,435 A little girl had gotten into the 319 00:20:28,435 --> 00:20:31,075 elevator with him. And 320 00:20:31,955 --> 00:20:34,755 something happened. I 321 00:20:34,755 --> 00:20:36,915 believe something clicked in his head. 322 00:20:41,635 --> 00:20:43,555 He had just recently lost his daughter. 323 00:20:44,995 --> 00:20:46,755 And then this little girl got into the 324 00:20:46,755 --> 00:20:47,395 elevator. 325 00:20:53,146 --> 00:20:54,906 He attempted to strangle her. 326 00:20:59,556 --> 00:21:02,036 With her screams and the elevator 327 00:21:02,036 --> 00:21:04,036 stopping on the floor that that she was 328 00:21:04,036 --> 00:21:06,836 going to, she was 329 00:21:06,836 --> 00:21:07,796 able to get away. 330 00:21:13,556 --> 00:21:16,516 It was a lot different from shoplifting. 331 00:21:17,516 --> 00:21:19,556 stealing cars. Now he's 332 00:21:20,356 --> 00:21:22,836 he's almost taken the life of a of 333 00:21:22,836 --> 00:21:23,797 another human being. 334 00:21:26,437 --> 00:21:29,237 The police showed up. He was arrested. 335 00:21:30,517 --> 00:21:32,277 Patrick went to Bridgewater State 336 00:21:32,277 --> 00:21:34,917 Institution, and it was probably 337 00:21:35,317 --> 00:21:37,597 four days later that my father had 338 00:21:37,597 --> 00:21:39,957 informed me that we were asked to leave 339 00:21:39,957 --> 00:21:42,677 the apartments because of 340 00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:43,877 Patrick's actions. 341 00:21:45,877 --> 00:21:47,477 That was it for me. That was my final 342 00:21:47,477 --> 00:21:47,797 straw. 343 00:21:53,717 --> 00:21:56,357 It was the first time that I said I hate 344 00:21:56,357 --> 00:21:58,077 him and I don't want anything to do with 345 00:21:58,077 --> 00:22:00,678 him. And that was it. I didn't see him 346 00:22:00,678 --> 00:22:01,878 for a couple years after that. 347 00:22:03,558 --> 00:22:06,358 My father moved in with his girlfriend. I 348 00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:09,278 moved back down to Georgia, met a 349 00:22:09,278 --> 00:22:11,038 wonderful woman, we started a family and 350 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:13,958 we moved down south, found a 351 00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:16,598 good job, got into a trade. Things were 352 00:22:16,598 --> 00:22:19,518 going great. Until 353 00:22:19,518 --> 00:22:20,918 you get that knock on the door. 354 00:22:30,518 --> 00:22:32,078 He would come over, me and Patrick, we 355 00:22:32,078 --> 00:22:33,839 would have a couple of beers, cook 356 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:36,039 dinner. That was only because he was my 357 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,199 brother. I mean, had he just been some 358 00:22:38,199 --> 00:22:40,439 friend, I would have given up on him a 359 00:22:40,439 --> 00:22:43,359 long time ago, but I didn't 360 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,279 see any of that dark sidefrom 361 00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:48,919 him. I went back to that. 362 00:22:49,239 --> 00:22:51,079 I I think I can help him this time mode. 363 00:22:51,959 --> 00:22:53,879 That's when I started having brotherly 364 00:22:53,879 --> 00:22:56,039 talks, little brother talking to big 365 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,519 brother finally about life and what you 366 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:00,519 got to do to get yours in in order. 367 00:23:01,719 --> 00:23:03,559 I'm rooting for you. I want to help. 368 00:23:04,999 --> 00:23:06,759 Just stay out of trouble and you could 369 00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:07,719 have a normal life. 370 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,680 AndI got the same answer that I got 371 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,600 all the other times, was, This is gonna 372 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,200 be it, Sean. I'm gonna i'm going to get 373 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560 my life together. Don't say it if you 374 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 don't mean it. I'm serious. I 375 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,640 mean, I've made my mistakes. I've paid my 376 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,240 dues. I've become a better man because of 377 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,200 it. Things were going good. He got 378 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,000 a job at a dealership. He was making good 379 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 money. He was really good with 380 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:39,560 with my son and my daughter. 381 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,000 Thanksgiving, Christmas, the holidays 382 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,961 were really good. Those were good 383 00:23:45,961 --> 00:23:47,641 times at first. 384 00:23:49,721 --> 00:23:51,401 But he started getting weird again. 385 00:23:53,401 --> 00:23:55,641 Looking back now, maybe I knew that I 386 00:23:55,641 --> 00:23:57,881 would never fix him. You know, you can't 387 00:23:57,881 --> 00:23:59,201 help somebody that doesn't want to help 388 00:23:59,201 --> 00:23:59,641 themselves. 389 00:24:07,801 --> 00:24:10,521 There was a nightHe had come down 390 00:24:10,841 --> 00:24:12,441 to the house upset. 391 00:24:13,441 --> 00:24:16,401 Patrick. Patrick, calm down. Talk to 392 00:24:16,441 --> 00:24:19,201 me. What happened?He was breathing 393 00:24:19,201 --> 00:24:21,242 heavy. He was, you know, real jittery. 394 00:24:21,602 --> 00:24:24,122 Patrick, what happened?He had 395 00:24:24,922 --> 00:24:27,642 rear-ended a woman. Is she 396 00:24:27,642 --> 00:24:30,482 okay?Yeah, Yeah she's fine. It was 397 00:24:30,482 --> 00:24:31,722 just a bender-bender. 398 00:24:33,082 --> 00:24:35,882 He left the scene of the accident because 399 00:24:35,962 --> 00:24:38,042 hewas afraid that 400 00:24:38,682 --> 00:24:40,282 he would get arrested because he'd had a 401 00:24:40,282 --> 00:24:42,522 couple of beers and he didn't want to go 402 00:24:42,522 --> 00:24:44,562 to jail. Put my hand on his shoulder and, 403 00:24:45,242 --> 00:24:47,162 you know, just calm down, relax, relax. 404 00:24:47,642 --> 00:24:49,922 It's going to be OK. She's not her. It 405 00:24:49,922 --> 00:24:52,842 was just a simple fender bender. And I 406 00:24:53,162 --> 00:24:56,043 talked him down for a 407 00:24:56,043 --> 00:24:58,683 few minutes to get him to relax. You are 408 00:24:58,683 --> 00:25:01,003 not going to prison. 409 00:25:03,563 --> 00:25:03,683 OK. 410 00:25:06,523 --> 00:25:06,763 OK. 411 00:25:09,803 --> 00:25:11,163 To this day, I still question my 412 00:25:11,163 --> 00:25:13,683 judgment, not convincing him to go to the 413 00:25:13,683 --> 00:25:16,203 police about the rear end. I was 414 00:25:16,203 --> 00:25:18,523 concerned, because what he had done was 415 00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:21,643 against the law. But I thought it 416 00:25:21,643 --> 00:25:24,043 was him taking responsibility for his 417 00:25:24,043 --> 00:25:26,043 actions, sort of. 418 00:25:26,963 --> 00:25:29,924 He knew what he did was wrong, 419 00:25:29,924 --> 00:25:31,804 but he didn't want to go back to jail. 420 00:25:33,964 --> 00:25:35,684 At that point, he hasn't been arrested 421 00:25:35,684 --> 00:25:37,884 for stealing, hasn't been arrested for 422 00:25:38,404 --> 00:25:41,004 breaking into any houses. I got him 423 00:25:41,004 --> 00:25:42,644 calmed down, and that was it. 424 00:25:44,124 --> 00:25:46,604 I never heard about the girl 425 00:25:47,324 --> 00:25:49,244 afterwards, and it was forgotten. 426 00:26:00,604 --> 00:26:03,164 I remember going, No way. 427 00:26:03,404 --> 00:26:05,925 No, that's not... No. 428 00:26:07,205 --> 00:26:08,685 There's no way that Patrick did that. 429 00:26:11,085 --> 00:26:14,045 And that was just... That 430 00:26:14,045 --> 00:26:15,325 was just the first body. 431 00:26:33,865 --> 00:26:35,785 Detectives came to the door, 432 00:26:37,145 --> 00:26:37,665 and... 433 00:26:40,046 --> 00:26:41,486 Patrick was in his room. 434 00:26:42,926 --> 00:26:44,526 I didn't know what they wanted. 435 00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:48,446 I went to get Patrick and I asked 436 00:26:48,446 --> 00:26:50,486 Patrick, you know, why are they here?And 437 00:26:50,486 --> 00:26:52,846 he, you know, he didn't know, he said. 438 00:26:54,206 --> 00:26:56,206 The detectives took him 439 00:26:56,606 --> 00:26:57,326 then. 440 00:27:00,446 --> 00:27:01,886 I'm thinking that, you know, it can't be 441 00:27:01,886 --> 00:27:03,486 too bad, you know, maybe. 442 00:27:04,846 --> 00:27:07,246 another break-in or, you know, something 443 00:27:07,246 --> 00:27:09,886 like that. The next 444 00:27:09,886 --> 00:27:11,566 morning, I called the police 445 00:27:12,526 --> 00:27:15,327 and asked them if they had arrested. 446 00:27:16,687 --> 00:27:18,607 And they told me yes. And I said, What 447 00:27:18,607 --> 00:27:21,247 are the charges?And she said, Murder. 448 00:27:22,607 --> 00:27:24,607 And I said, No. I said, You've got the 449 00:27:24,607 --> 00:27:27,567 wrong, wrong kid, you 450 00:27:27,567 --> 00:27:29,967 know, that can't be. And she said, Yes, 451 00:27:29,967 --> 00:27:30,607 it is. 452 00:27:33,007 --> 00:27:34,767 I was in shock. I couldn't believe it. 453 00:27:34,767 --> 00:27:35,807 You know, it it just... 454 00:27:37,727 --> 00:27:39,887 break-ins. Yes, you know... 455 00:27:42,407 --> 00:27:43,567 but not murder. 456 00:27:52,968 --> 00:27:55,008 And over the years, I would get calls 457 00:27:55,008 --> 00:27:55,888 from my mother. 458 00:28:00,208 --> 00:28:02,048 St. Patrick's in jails again. Patrick's 459 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,848 arrested again. But that 460 00:28:04,848 --> 00:28:06,448 call, that that was definitely different. 461 00:28:06,688 --> 00:28:09,328 She was very upset. I 462 00:28:09,328 --> 00:28:12,288 remember going, no way. No, 463 00:28:12,288 --> 00:28:14,408 that's not-- no. 464 00:28:15,808 --> 00:28:17,328 There's no way that Patrick did that. 465 00:28:21,968 --> 00:28:23,008 And that was just-- 466 00:28:25,969 --> 00:28:27,409 that was just the first body. 467 00:28:29,369 --> 00:28:32,129 We put on the news and really found 468 00:28:32,129 --> 00:28:35,009 out the full aspect of what was going on. 469 00:28:35,409 --> 00:28:37,809 This case, officers say, is just one of 470 00:28:37,809 --> 00:28:40,049 four that Lewis says he has something to 471 00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:42,769 do with. He has confessed to killing two 472 00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:45,489 women in Mobile and two women here in 473 00:28:45,489 --> 00:28:48,449 Metro Atlanta. All those years, it 474 00:28:48,449 --> 00:28:51,249 was just breaking into cars, breaking 475 00:28:51,249 --> 00:28:54,129 into houses. For him to go from 476 00:28:54,129 --> 00:28:56,249 that to to 477 00:28:56,369 --> 00:28:57,129 murdering 478 00:28:59,249 --> 00:29:01,730 It was absolutely shocking. 479 00:29:03,010 --> 00:29:05,770 It was on Metropolitan Parkway, where the 480 00:29:05,770 --> 00:29:08,690 confessed alleged serial killer says he 481 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:11,170 picked up at least one of his victims. 482 00:29:11,890 --> 00:29:14,610 He even told officers where to find the 483 00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:16,450 murder weapon to one of his alleged 484 00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:17,250 crimes. 485 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:20,930 This is the one that they found in in 486 00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:23,090 Atlanta, in my my uncle's home. 487 00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:28,090 I didn't know it was that big. 488 00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:34,770 Investigators found the knife in good 489 00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:37,171 condition and will likely be testing it 490 00:29:37,331 --> 00:29:39,651 to see if it was used to commit more than 491 00:29:39,651 --> 00:29:42,571 one murder, because Lewis has confessed 492 00:29:42,571 --> 00:29:45,491 to yet another. I don't think it was too 493 00:29:45,491 --> 00:29:48,051 long after he was arrested that he 494 00:29:48,211 --> 00:29:50,931 confessed to everything. The day this 495 00:29:50,931 --> 00:29:53,211 happened, when did you decide that you 496 00:29:53,211 --> 00:29:54,371 were going to kill this person? 497 00:29:56,531 --> 00:29:57,611 Probably before she got in the car, 498 00:29:57,611 --> 00:29:58,811 because I was thinking I was just looking 499 00:29:58,811 --> 00:30:01,091 for somebody who had killed so pretty 500 00:30:01,091 --> 00:30:03,811 much. She needed to look somewhat like 501 00:30:04,771 --> 00:30:07,251 his ex-girlfriend. Brown hair, 502 00:30:08,331 --> 00:30:10,691 a little bit long. I believe 503 00:30:11,532 --> 00:30:13,732 all the girls fit that profile. 504 00:30:15,652 --> 00:30:16,812 She was just there. It wasn't like I 505 00:30:16,812 --> 00:30:19,612 planned to pick her up again. It could 506 00:30:19,612 --> 00:30:21,172 have been her or somebody else. Yeah, it 507 00:30:21,172 --> 00:30:24,052 could have been anybody. I 508 00:30:24,052 --> 00:30:26,772 believe one of the women was eight months 509 00:30:26,772 --> 00:30:29,652 pregnant. That sent chills down 510 00:30:29,652 --> 00:30:31,652 my spine. That's when I pulled the knife 511 00:30:31,652 --> 00:30:34,052 out on her. I told her, don't 512 00:30:34,212 --> 00:30:36,812 scream. Just do what I say and I won't 513 00:30:36,812 --> 00:30:39,692 hurt you. I didn't-- 514 00:30:42,132 --> 00:30:44,572 didn't want to believe it, but it's kind 515 00:30:44,572 --> 00:30:46,733 of hard not to when the words are coming 516 00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:48,653 out of his mouth. Show me. Show me how 517 00:30:48,653 --> 00:30:51,333 you did. I had a hold of her hair, 518 00:30:51,573 --> 00:30:53,573 and I had the knife right here. I guess 519 00:30:55,093 --> 00:30:56,853 he was walking. And you walked her up to 520 00:30:56,853 --> 00:30:59,813 her. When you choked 521 00:30:59,813 --> 00:31:00,053 her... 522 00:31:06,773 --> 00:31:08,893 You just didn't care. I just can't 523 00:31:08,893 --> 00:31:11,533 listen. Just... 524 00:31:15,973 --> 00:31:18,533 You just didn't care. I don't ever want 525 00:31:18,533 --> 00:31:19,253 to see that again. 526 00:31:35,014 --> 00:31:36,534 I think everybody that knew him 527 00:31:37,574 --> 00:31:39,974 probably stepped back in what, 528 00:31:40,854 --> 00:31:43,254 you know, where were the signs that, you 529 00:31:43,254 --> 00:31:46,134 know, was there something that 530 00:31:46,134 --> 00:31:48,614 we that we missed?Patrick, 531 00:31:49,334 --> 00:31:52,094 Patrick, calm down. What is that?The 532 00:31:52,094 --> 00:31:54,694 night that he came to the house 533 00:31:54,854 --> 00:31:57,255 after rearing and the the girl, I later 534 00:31:57,255 --> 00:31:59,575 found out that it was not 535 00:32:00,575 --> 00:32:03,175 an accidental rear end, 536 00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:06,135 that he had stalked her. 537 00:32:07,415 --> 00:32:10,055 I had no clue. And I don't think that my 538 00:32:10,055 --> 00:32:12,855 mother questioned where he was or 539 00:32:13,575 --> 00:32:15,975 how late he was staying out. Maybe she 540 00:32:15,975 --> 00:32:17,655 knew something was happening, motherly 541 00:32:17,655 --> 00:32:20,615 instincts. I don't know. 542 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,855 There was one thing now that I think 543 00:32:23,855 --> 00:32:24,375 about it. 544 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:29,495 I went to use the washing machine 545 00:32:30,295 --> 00:32:32,896 and he had clothes in the 546 00:32:32,896 --> 00:32:35,736 washer and even his 547 00:32:35,896 --> 00:32:37,896 shoes, his sneakers were in the washer. 548 00:32:38,896 --> 00:32:40,376 I took his clothes out of the washer, you 549 00:32:40,376 --> 00:32:42,576 know, put them in the dryer and I didn't 550 00:32:42,856 --> 00:32:45,016 really think anything about it. 551 00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:48,696 It just didn't. It didn't dawn 552 00:32:48,696 --> 00:32:51,176 on me that anything 553 00:32:52,936 --> 00:32:53,536 was wrong. 554 00:32:59,656 --> 00:33:01,496 How did you feel when you found out he he 555 00:33:01,496 --> 00:33:04,056 was sentenced to death?I was happy. 556 00:33:06,376 --> 00:33:09,297 I was happy that that he was 557 00:33:09,297 --> 00:33:10,417 gonna get what he deserved. 558 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:15,257 The victims' families, and I can't 559 00:33:15,257 --> 00:33:16,137 speak for them, 560 00:33:19,577 --> 00:33:22,457 But I believe for them, justice is 561 00:33:23,177 --> 00:33:25,337 is going to be served by him being on 562 00:33:25,737 --> 00:33:28,217 death row and down in the electric chair. 563 00:33:45,578 --> 00:33:47,258 It was hard. It was real hard to 564 00:33:47,898 --> 00:33:50,778 understand how-- how she could-- 565 00:33:51,018 --> 00:33:52,378 she could choose him over me. 566 00:34:07,338 --> 00:34:09,818 This picture is Christmas of 567 00:34:09,818 --> 00:34:12,778 '92. My 568 00:34:12,778 --> 00:34:14,858 mother's in the middle, Patrick's on the 569 00:34:14,858 --> 00:34:17,018 right, and that is me on the left. 570 00:34:18,459 --> 00:34:20,259 It's clear that my mother's very happy in 571 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:22,979 that picture. But to see him in that 572 00:34:24,219 --> 00:34:25,419 now, knowing that 573 00:34:27,459 --> 00:34:28,619 that he had already started, 574 00:34:30,139 --> 00:34:32,979 started killing, to 575 00:34:32,979 --> 00:34:34,939 see his arm around my mother knowing that 576 00:34:34,939 --> 00:34:35,739 those hands 577 00:34:38,379 --> 00:34:41,179 did horrible things. It's It's a 578 00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:43,779 very strange feeling. It's 579 00:34:43,779 --> 00:34:45,579 strange to look into his eyes in that 580 00:34:45,579 --> 00:34:48,379 picture. People always talk about 581 00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:49,579 how pretty his eyes were. 582 00:34:51,579 --> 00:34:54,540 But I see those courtroom 583 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,180 photos. 584 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:59,740 Those eyes are just 585 00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:00,860 pure evil. 586 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,500 If I could have changed places with him 587 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:19,500 at any time, I would have. And he knew 588 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:21,940 that. He knew I loved him. You know, 589 00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:23,260 there was never any doubt. 590 00:35:24,860 --> 00:35:26,460 You know, nothing was ever going to 591 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:27,100 change that. 592 00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:31,621 Did Patrick ever tell you why he did 593 00:35:32,621 --> 00:35:35,581 it?It wasn't a choice 594 00:35:35,581 --> 00:35:38,541 for him. He said it was an urge 595 00:35:39,261 --> 00:35:41,261 that that he felt, 596 00:35:42,781 --> 00:35:44,461 that he had to. 597 00:35:45,981 --> 00:35:48,701 And he he told me later on that 598 00:35:48,941 --> 00:35:51,181 he wondered, you know, why him?You 599 00:35:51,821 --> 00:35:54,141 know, why not somebody else?Why Why was 600 00:35:54,141 --> 00:35:56,461 he this way?Did he seem 601 00:35:56,461 --> 00:35:58,461 remorseful when you would talk to him?No, 602 00:36:00,541 --> 00:36:01,301 no, he didn't. 603 00:36:03,182 --> 00:36:05,422 HeHe had no no 604 00:36:05,422 --> 00:36:06,782 feelings at all. 605 00:36:21,182 --> 00:36:24,062 I thought she was insane. I 606 00:36:24,062 --> 00:36:26,702 absolutely could not. I couldn't believe 607 00:36:26,702 --> 00:36:29,022 it. I kept asking her, Mom, 608 00:36:29,342 --> 00:36:31,502 move up here. Please come up. 609 00:36:32,462 --> 00:36:34,102 Please move up and be with your family. 610 00:36:35,182 --> 00:36:37,102 You know I have to be here for him. 611 00:36:37,903 --> 00:36:40,063 She was obsessed. She was 612 00:36:40,063 --> 00:36:42,783 consumed with making 613 00:36:42,783 --> 00:36:45,663 sure that he had everything that he 614 00:36:45,663 --> 00:36:48,223 he needed. So can you come with me, 615 00:36:48,823 --> 00:36:51,183 please?I couldn't 616 00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:54,503 turn my back on him, not even with the 617 00:36:54,783 --> 00:36:57,503 the awful, horrible things he did. 618 00:36:59,663 --> 00:37:01,823 Unconditional love is the only way I can 619 00:37:01,823 --> 00:37:04,143 explain it. Okay. 620 00:37:07,503 --> 00:37:09,623 It's how a mother feels. It's 621 00:37:11,423 --> 00:37:12,383 It's how I felt. 622 00:37:14,624 --> 00:37:17,424 No matter what, I was 623 00:37:17,424 --> 00:37:18,224 gonna love him. 624 00:37:20,904 --> 00:37:21,584 I still do. 625 00:37:25,504 --> 00:37:26,624 I didn't understand that. 626 00:37:28,544 --> 00:37:30,704 In my mind,She chose 627 00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:33,264 a serial killer 628 00:37:35,504 --> 00:37:37,504 Over over me 629 00:37:38,864 --> 00:37:39,584 and it 630 00:37:42,304 --> 00:37:43,664 That angered me for many years 631 00:37:45,904 --> 00:37:47,184 I just didn't want anything to do with 632 00:37:47,184 --> 00:37:50,065 her And that was 633 00:37:50,105 --> 00:37:53,025 it several years went by no 634 00:37:53,025 --> 00:37:55,905 contact at all nothing 635 00:37:55,905 --> 00:37:58,385 but it was always 636 00:37:59,425 --> 00:38:01,185 The quicker that he can die, the quicker 637 00:38:01,265 --> 00:38:04,145 I can get my mother back. Patrick, you've 638 00:38:04,145 --> 00:38:06,305 had her long enough. You know, you have, 639 00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:08,625 you have consumed her life over the last 640 00:38:09,985 --> 00:38:11,185 several years. 641 00:38:12,785 --> 00:38:15,665 That may sound greedy on me or, 642 00:38:16,785 --> 00:38:19,345 but I just, I wanted my mother. 643 00:38:31,106 --> 00:38:33,826 He had been to the doctor that day and he 644 00:38:33,826 --> 00:38:36,266 found out that the cancer had spread and 645 00:38:36,266 --> 00:38:37,666 there was just no hope. 646 00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:44,066 We had a really good conversation. I I 647 00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:45,986 told him, you know, I was sorry that I 648 00:38:45,986 --> 00:38:48,946 couldn't have done more. And he 649 00:38:48,946 --> 00:38:51,746 told me that I did more than any mother. 650 00:38:52,146 --> 00:38:54,866 would have. And I 651 00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:57,506 knew he loved me, and he knew I loved 652 00:38:57,506 --> 00:38:59,747 him. And there was-- 653 00:39:01,027 --> 00:39:03,747 it was just a great conversation. 654 00:39:07,987 --> 00:39:10,747 I'm glad that she had the opportunity to 655 00:39:10,787 --> 00:39:13,587 hear him say that, that she 656 00:39:13,587 --> 00:39:14,707 did all that she could. 657 00:39:16,467 --> 00:39:17,107 That's good to know. 658 00:39:21,427 --> 00:39:23,987 But I absolutely felt 659 00:39:25,907 --> 00:39:28,707 ripped off after I found out that Patrick 660 00:39:28,707 --> 00:39:31,267 died, because I 661 00:39:32,547 --> 00:39:34,788 I was going to go to the execution, 662 00:39:35,348 --> 00:39:38,268 and I absolutely felt robbed 663 00:39:38,268 --> 00:39:38,708 of that 664 00:39:41,108 --> 00:39:43,908 that opportunity. Why did you want to 665 00:39:43,948 --> 00:39:44,308 watch it? 666 00:39:53,188 --> 00:39:55,908 Just to see it finally end, 667 00:39:56,468 --> 00:39:58,308 I believe in the death penalty and I 668 00:39:58,308 --> 00:39:59,468 believe that he deserved it. 669 00:40:13,269 --> 00:40:15,589 Even after Patrick had died, I still 670 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:18,549 didn'tstill didn't want to talk to her. 671 00:40:20,469 --> 00:40:22,789 Since he's passed, she has 672 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:26,389 continued to live there, 1,100 miles away 673 00:40:26,389 --> 00:40:29,349 from from me and the rest of her family. 674 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:33,909 But now I realize that that's that's what 675 00:40:33,909 --> 00:40:36,789 she needed. I understand 676 00:40:37,189 --> 00:40:38,789 a mother's love for her child 677 00:40:39,909 --> 00:40:42,629 because of my mother. I learned 678 00:40:42,909 --> 00:40:45,190 what that bond was because of my mother 679 00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:48,150 and Patrick. And that's 680 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:49,870 that's one of the main reasons that I 681 00:40:49,870 --> 00:40:51,190 started talking to her again. 682 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:09,430 Twelve years was a long time not to see a 683 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:12,150 picture or or 684 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:12,630 anything. 685 00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:16,630 I had no idea what she looked like. 686 00:41:20,871 --> 00:41:22,271 It's been a long time since I've talked 687 00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:23,031 to her about him. 688 00:41:25,431 --> 00:41:27,671 That was one of his birthdays. He 689 00:41:28,951 --> 00:41:31,831 looked happy. Yeah, he 690 00:41:31,831 --> 00:41:34,791 did. Hopefully it'd be my 691 00:41:34,791 --> 00:41:37,551 time now and we could start having a life 692 00:41:37,551 --> 00:41:40,151 together. I missed out on a lot. 693 00:41:41,271 --> 00:41:43,511 Seeing my grandkids grow up, 694 00:41:44,151 --> 00:41:46,631 last time I saw them, they were kids. Now 695 00:41:47,431 --> 00:41:50,071 they're adults. I had a lot of rain urine 696 00:41:50,071 --> 00:41:52,751 for all those years. And 697 00:41:55,032 --> 00:41:57,912 I don't anymore. I've let it all 698 00:41:57,912 --> 00:42:00,152 go. It stinks that we 699 00:42:01,072 --> 00:42:03,432 lost 12 years, but hopefully after this 700 00:42:03,432 --> 00:42:04,232 we can move on. 701 00:42:07,192 --> 00:42:09,752 I've learned a lot. I'm not ashamed of 702 00:42:09,752 --> 00:42:11,752 who I am. I'm not ashamed of my my 703 00:42:11,752 --> 00:42:14,472 family. I'm hoping we still have a a 704 00:42:14,712 --> 00:42:16,952 lot of time left. It'd be nice to have 705 00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:19,872 some good memories. I can't remember the 706 00:42:19,872 --> 00:42:22,792 last time I had one with my mom in a long 707 00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:25,632 time, so... I'll do 708 00:42:25,632 --> 00:42:26,472 whatever it takes. 47011

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