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Duty is sacrifice.
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It eclipses all things,
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even blood.
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In the making of season one,
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we knew half that
season is a prologue
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and half of it is the
first act of this war.
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To have season one
land the way it did,
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with a rabid audience,
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fans of George and his
books the way I am.
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We were excited to get into it
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because this is the
juicy part of the drama.
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The North owes a great
duty to the Seven Kingdoms,
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one older than any oath.
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Winterfell is the one place,
the one corner of this world
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where news of Luke's
death has not yet reached,
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and it is this hearkening
back to a simpler time.
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I wanted to go to a place
where we could experience that,
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if only briefly,
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and the North just felt
completely the right way to go.
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Ryan, when we did speak, it
really, really helped me out
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because we would
have conversations
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about how important
these negotiations are
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for Team Black
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and the difference
it makes in the war.
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War is coming to the whole
of the realm, My Lord.
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We cannot wage it without
the support of the North.
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Well, it was all
about history.
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There were pledges that
were made back in the day,
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and Jace is sent to remind
Cregan Stark of those pledges.
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If your greybeards can fight,
the Queen will have them.
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They will fight hard,
like Northerners.
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Rhaenyra heard the
news that Luke has died
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on a mission that
she sent him on,
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so there's guilt involved.
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And she's a mother
who's lost a son
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and has to go through
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the sort of necessary
grieving process
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that Daemon, her husband,
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can't really appreciate
or understand.
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She goes and tries to make
peace with Luke's demise,
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but she cannot settle in it
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because it is
unsettled business,
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until part of Arrax
washes ashore.
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Going in search of evidence is
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quite fundamentally
important to her.
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I guess one of the sort of
maddest things about death
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is that it seems
sort of impossible,
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especially because really the
overriding feeling often is
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you just sit with the absence.
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And so, anything that has,
like, a tangibility about it
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I think is vitally important.
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Her son's cloak, the
wing of his dragon,
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I think it's devastating,
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but I think it galvanizes
a vengeful feeling,
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one that maybe she hasn't paid
so much mind to previously.
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I think that Rhaenys is
probably one of the few people
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that Daemon knows
he can't mess with,
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although I suspect
probably wants to.
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We're going to King's Landing.
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- To what end?
- Killing Vhagar.
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When those two meet,
it's kind of like
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a panther meets a
kind of electric eel.
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Really dangerous combination.
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He's essentially ready to
go to war and get payback.
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It was nice to throw
those characters
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into conflict with one another.
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I think you can tell
from even her demeanor
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the way Rhaenys
thinks of Daemon.
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Daemon believes that
he's, of course,
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completely in the right
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and has the power to
order Rhaenys around.
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Fly with me.
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It is a command.
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Would that you were the king.
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Where is Jaehaerys?
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What do you need of him?
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I'm taking him to
the Small Council.
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He'll be king one day. He
must begin his instruction.
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What if he does not
want to be king?
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Where is he?
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One of the things I loved
about Game of Thrones
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was the character humor.
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And, you know, we can
spend a lot of time
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being dour in this world,
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and it's so important
to have humor.
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And when I first saw
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what Tom Glynn-Carney
was doing with Aegon,
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I thought, "He's finding humor
where I didn't know it existed."
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And it's painful,
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a guy who's way
in over his head,
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who really wants to do well
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but just can't make
a right move...
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no matter what he does.
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Aegon the Magnanimous.
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Hail King Aegon!
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The Magnanimous?
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I think Aegon is
the kind of father
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that encourages bad behavior
because he finds it funny.
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He loves his kids.
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I have no doubt about that.
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He loves his kids dearly.
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But he's not one
to discipline them.
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If anything, he's, you know,
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having competitions
with his children
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to see who can be
the most rebellious.
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And Aegon often wins.
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He took my piece.
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Is the heir to the throne
bothering you, Tyland?
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We see him come into a
Small Council meeting
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with Jaehaerys,
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and, you know, he's
spurring him on.
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He's wanting him to be more
of a... more of a rebel,
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more of a nuisance,
just like his old man.
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- I think he wants a ride.
- Your Grace.
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- A ride?
- A pony ride.
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Wouldn't that be fun, Jaehaerys?
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Should the Master of
Coin be your royal steed?
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It's meant to be a
moment of fun, a bit.
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And yes, like Aegon brings
his four-year-old to work.
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But I think on a perhaps
nuanced character level,
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this is the thing that
Viserys never did for Aegon.
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And Aegon did not study
at the feet of his father.
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His father had his male heir
and then essentially said,
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"Well, that box is
ticked." He was ill.
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I think he enjoyed having a son,
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but didn't put in the work
the way he did with Rhaenyra
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when he was a younger man.
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And I think Aegon resents that
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and feels that
part of the reason
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that he's not seen
as being suited
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for the crown or the throne
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is because he didn't get that
training from his father,
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so now he's going to
make up for that tenfold
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with Jaehaerys.
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Alicent's been in a
marriage that was loving,
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but not exactly romantic or
physical for quite some time.
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Cole has got a lot of issues.
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One thing I love
about the character
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is that he is a knight
in shining armor
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and sort of classically handsome
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and probably the most messed
up person in the story
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in many ways.
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You know, clinging to
notions of purity and duty
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and just flagrantly breaking
them left and right.
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So, there's a lot
of complex things
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driving the moves
closer and closer
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between Alicent and Cole.
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And it takes a leap forward.
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But nothing is simple with them,
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so for every leap forward,
there's a push back.
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We cannot... again.
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There's a lot of
wonderful tension there.
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I mean, I think there's love,
but there's a lot of mess too.
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- Your Grace.
- Good day.
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- I - think, ultimately,
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they're two very lost people
in a pretty unforgiving world.
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And I think there's always been,
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you know, since the
very first episode,
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Alicent, you know, had
her eye on Criston Cole.
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And then she was a young lady,
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and now she's the Queen
of the Seven Kingdoms.
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It's paramount that
she keeps it a secret
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because not only
would her respect
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completely disintegrate,
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but her stay in the castle.
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And Aegon is so unpredictable.
Who knows what he would do
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if he found out that his
mother was having sex
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with his Commander
of the Kingsguard?
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I mean, not only is
it an embarrassment,
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it would bring deep, deep shame.
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I want Aemond Targaryen.
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Rhaenyra has literally one
line in the first episode,
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and the one line she says,
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Daemon takes as
pulling the trigger.
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In our first episode, we
see him unleash something
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that is sort of famous in the
lore of House of the Dragon,
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a nasty event that he triggers.
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When Rhaenyra declares
that she wants Aemond,
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I think it's an admission of
a possibly shameful desire,
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and I think that admission
is made directly to Daemon.
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I think it's also an
admission of their similarity.
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She sort of discloses
another way in which
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they actually share a darkness.
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"I want Aemond Targaryen"
becomes the battle cry
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that then resonates
across the entire season
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because that is the
next domino to fall
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in this back and forth
that sets in motion
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a horrible attack
and counterattack
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that continues,
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and the atrocities grow
worse and worse as they go.
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In our story, it's Mysaria,
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who has got her tentacles into
every part of King's Landing,
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who is able to provide
the connections
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for Daemon to exact revenge.
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I think it really is a
big deal for the fans
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because it keeps
getting referred to.
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And I don't know the
characters' actual names.
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They're forever in lore
as Blood and Cheese.
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Who the fuck is she?
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She's the Queen, she is.
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"A son for a son," he said.
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The boldest thing that
I think we did there
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was decide to give the last
ten minutes of the episode
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over to these two characters
that we have never met before
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and rely on them to take us
through the end of the story
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and to see, hopefully,
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as they go deeper and
deeper into the Red Keep
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and as we're spending more
and more screen time on them
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that something horrible is
going to happen in there,
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and knowing that you're
watching Game of Thrones
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and you don't know what is going
to come for you from where.
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And seeing that play
out hopefully is the fun
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and the horror for the
audience that's yet to come.
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