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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,668 --> 00:00:04,171 NARRATOR: Could recent media reports 2 00:00:04,171 --> 00:00:06,506 and newly‐released military videos 3 00:00:06,506 --> 00:00:09,510 be an indication that the wall of secrecy 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:12,095 concerning extraterrestrial visitors to our planet 5 00:00:12,095 --> 00:00:14,097 is beginning to crack? 6 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:17,059 You've been briefed on unidentified flying objects. 7 00:00:17,059 --> 00:00:19,061 ‐Are they real? ‐We have had people 8 00:00:19,061 --> 00:00:21,104 saying that they've seen things. 9 00:00:21,104 --> 00:00:23,065 JOHN PODESTA: We know that 10 00:00:23,065 --> 00:00:24,858 there were certain incidents that were 11 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:28,737 encountered by the U. S. Navy that were unexplained. 12 00:00:28,737 --> 00:00:30,489 NARRATOR: But are these recent revelations 13 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:35,118 part of a global strategy intended to prepare humanity 14 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:37,871 for the ultimate extraterrestrial encounter? 15 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:39,373 NICK POPE: All those things 16 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:41,625 we're seeing now is the government 17 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:43,502 getting ready to tell us. 18 00:00:43,502 --> 00:00:46,171 This is a completely new ball game here. 19 00:00:46,171 --> 00:00:48,257 NARRATOR: Or are they the result 20 00:00:48,257 --> 00:00:51,260 of an anxious public's increasingly loud demands 21 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:52,844 to know the truth? 22 00:00:52,844 --> 00:00:55,597 JEREMY CORBELL: This will come from us, 23 00:00:55,597 --> 00:00:56,807 from the people. 24 00:00:56,807 --> 00:00:58,350 If we ask the right questions, 25 00:00:58,350 --> 00:01:00,143 we're gonna get the right answers. 26 00:01:02,646 --> 00:01:04,690 NARRATOR: There is a doorway 27 00:01:04,690 --> 00:01:07,442 in the universe. 28 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:10,487 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 29 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:14,199 It demands we question everything 30 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:16,618 we have ever been taught. 31 00:01:16,618 --> 00:01:20,789 The evidence is all around us. 32 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:24,251 The future is right before our eyes. 33 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:27,045 We are not alone. 34 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:30,549 We have never been alone. 35 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,976 NARRATOR: Osaka, Japan. 36 00:01:40,976 --> 00:01:44,479 July 1, 2019. 37 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:49,109 In a televised interview, Fox News political commentator 38 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:52,571 Tucker Carlson asks President Donald Trump, 39 00:01:52,571 --> 00:01:57,284 point‐blank, about recent revelations concerning UFOs. 40 00:01:57,284 --> 00:02:00,912 You've been briefed on unidentified flying objects. 41 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:02,914 ‐Are they... are they real? ‐Uh, 42 00:02:02,914 --> 00:02:04,916 well, I don't want to really get into it too much, 43 00:02:04,916 --> 00:02:06,960 but personally I tend to doubt it. 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,089 But we have had people saying that they've seen things. 45 00:02:11,089 --> 00:02:13,216 Uh, I'm not a believer, 46 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:15,010 but, you know, I guess anything's possible. 47 00:02:15,010 --> 00:02:17,012 We spoke to a government official recently who said 48 00:02:17,012 --> 00:02:18,722 the U. S. government had wreckage from 49 00:02:18,722 --> 00:02:20,599 a UFO in a, in a facility on an Air Force base. 50 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:22,809 ‐Are you familiar with that? ‐I haven't heard that, no. 51 00:02:22,809 --> 00:02:26,647 RICHARD DOLAN: Trump's answer was extraordinary because 52 00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:28,815 I don't believe there's been any other time 53 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:31,485 in, uh, recent American history 54 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:34,154 where a sitting president was asked this question 55 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:39,660 in such a serious manner and gave a serious reply. 56 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,829 POPE: President Trump's interview 57 00:02:42,829 --> 00:02:47,459 with Tucker Carlson about UFOs was historic. 58 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:51,546 Usually presidents, certainly sitting presidents, 59 00:02:51,546 --> 00:02:53,674 do not discuss this subject at all, 60 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:56,176 and if they are ever asked about it, 61 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,844 they dismiss the whole thing 62 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:00,389 with a joke or an evasive answer. 63 00:03:00,389 --> 00:03:03,684 Now, Ryan, if you're out in the crowd tonight, 64 00:03:03,684 --> 00:03:06,103 here's the answer to your question. 65 00:03:06,103 --> 00:03:12,109 No, as far as I know, an alien spacecraft did not crash 66 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:15,696 in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. 67 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:17,698 (laughter) 68 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:22,703 CORBELL: Ten years ago, 69 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:24,996 UFOs were about laughter, 70 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:28,500 UFOs were the easiest punch line in a room. 71 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,710 Not so today. 72 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:34,548 Now, in the new world we live in, people are paying attention. 73 00:03:34,548 --> 00:03:37,634 We have moved from a fringe topic 74 00:03:37,634 --> 00:03:39,761 and brought UFOs to the forefront 75 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:42,055 of both popular culture 76 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,057 as well as mainstream media. 77 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:49,229 NARRATOR: On August 29, 2019, 78 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:52,315 journalist and former British Defence Ministry employee 79 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:55,861 Nick Pope traveled to Washington, D. C. 80 00:03:55,861 --> 00:03:58,155 He had arranged to meet with Tucker Carlson 81 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:01,825 and get his thoughts on his extraordinary exchange 82 00:04:01,825 --> 00:04:04,327 with America's 45th president. 83 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:06,121 ‐Tucker, hey. ‐Thank you, Nick. 84 00:04:06,121 --> 00:04:07,873 ‐Nice to meet you in person. ‐Great to meet you. Thank you. 85 00:04:07,873 --> 00:04:09,249 ‐Okay. Thanks. ‐UFOs are real. 86 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:12,127 Tucker, you've taken the lead 87 00:04:12,127 --> 00:04:13,920 in the mainstream media in discussing 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,256 the latest revelations about UFOs. 89 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,758 Why is that? Is it a personal interest? 90 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:23,096 I just believe it's clear that there's been deception 91 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,766 around this question from the U. S. government, 92 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:27,559 the Pentagon specifically. 93 00:04:27,559 --> 00:04:30,771 And I think it's important to find out more. 94 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:33,356 I mean, if there is real evidence 95 00:04:33,356 --> 00:04:36,610 that this planet is being visited 96 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:40,030 from other planets 97 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:43,116 or solar systems, or even if there are aircraft 98 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:44,910 whose behavior we can't explain, 99 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:48,121 why is that not the biggest story in news? 100 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:50,999 I agree. Now, do you have any kind of pushback 101 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:52,834 with that when you run these stories? 102 00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:55,545 How do the senior executives feel, 103 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:57,130 and other media professionals? 104 00:04:57,130 --> 00:04:59,549 My feeling was it's time to rethink, like, 105 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:01,885 what you think you know, 106 00:05:01,885 --> 00:05:04,971 and so we started doing UFO segments. 107 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:08,058 And basically, the first three times we did it, 108 00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:10,060 people made fun of us, and after that, 109 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:12,145 no one has said a single word about it. 110 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,189 Well, there are these videos that... 111 00:05:14,189 --> 00:05:17,901 I mean, we've all seen the Navy jets chasing the UFOs. 112 00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:28,829 What kind of emotional reaction do you get 113 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:30,330 watching something like that? 114 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,499 You know pilots. My brother's a pilot. 115 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:34,125 I've talked to a lot of pilots. 116 00:05:34,125 --> 00:05:36,461 They're very interested 117 00:05:36,461 --> 00:05:39,047 in how things lift off the ground and move. 118 00:05:39,047 --> 00:05:40,715 They're interested in flight. They're saying, 119 00:05:40,715 --> 00:05:42,175 "This is something completely different. 120 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:44,845 I don't even know how this works." 121 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:47,347 That's... compelling to me. 122 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:48,890 I asked the president about it. 123 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,309 What did you make of his response? 124 00:05:51,309 --> 00:05:52,936 I thought his response was odd, to be honest with you. 125 00:05:52,936 --> 00:05:54,813 I thought it was odd. 126 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:56,439 ‐In‐in what way? ‐He said, "You know, 127 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:58,483 "I'm not interested in that topic at all. 128 00:05:58,483 --> 00:06:00,610 "I'm just‐‐ I'm not interested in that topic, 129 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:02,279 and I don't think there's anything there." 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,281 I didn't believe him when he said that, 131 00:06:04,281 --> 00:06:06,283 to‐to be honest with you. 132 00:06:06,283 --> 00:06:08,243 It was funny, because he nodded 133 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:11,454 ‐his head and then said no. ‐Yes, that's exactly right. 134 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:14,249 The president, like probably most people 135 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:17,252 in power, is uncomfortable conceding 136 00:06:17,252 --> 00:06:20,672 that... he's got questions. 137 00:06:20,672 --> 00:06:23,466 I mean, it's much easier just to say "Nah, there's nothing there. 138 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,218 It's a weather balloon." 139 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,762 And because there's a stigma attached 140 00:06:27,762 --> 00:06:29,806 to asking questions. 141 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:31,933 I mean, I've never once said that I believe 142 00:06:31,933 --> 00:06:34,603 anything in particular about UFOs, because I don't. 143 00:06:34,603 --> 00:06:36,104 I don't know what to believe, 144 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:38,064 but I know bull(bleep) when I see it. 145 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:40,400 Do you think he knows more than he's letting on, 146 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,444 or do you think, as some people say, 147 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:43,862 even the president doesn't know? 148 00:06:43,862 --> 00:06:45,655 My impression was 149 00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:47,866 that the president... 150 00:06:47,866 --> 00:06:51,077 does know more than he said. 151 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:52,746 You know, you'd have to think 152 00:06:52,746 --> 00:06:55,498 that, that any person of moderate curiosity, 153 00:06:55,498 --> 00:06:59,002 given the power that a president has, 154 00:06:59,002 --> 00:07:01,630 would, at some point, in, you know, 155 00:07:01,630 --> 00:07:04,424 his first couple years in office, would call down and say, 156 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:06,259 "You know, send me all the information you have on UFOs." 157 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,636 Like, why wouldn't you do that? 158 00:07:07,636 --> 00:07:09,346 Do you think the public want to know 159 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:11,097 ‐and can handle the truth? ‐Well, you know the... 160 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:12,932 I mean, let's be... I mean, let's... let's be honest. 161 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:15,226 The people keeping this information secret 162 00:07:15,226 --> 00:07:19,272 at the Pentagon believe the information is so terrifying 163 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:22,275 to the public that it would be contrary 164 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:23,860 to the national interest to reveal it. 165 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:25,445 ‐Yeah. ‐I mean, obviously. 166 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:27,364 When we run through the theories about this, 167 00:07:27,364 --> 00:07:30,450 we say, could it be some other part of the U. S. government? 168 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,077 Some secret black project? 169 00:07:32,077 --> 00:07:33,703 Could it be Russia or China? 170 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:35,747 Or could it be extraterrestrial? 171 00:07:35,747 --> 00:07:38,083 I'm starting to believe that there is‐‐ 172 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:39,626 and I‐I've heard this from someone 173 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:40,960 who I think is knowledgeable on the subject‐‐ 174 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,963 that there is physical evidence 175 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:46,966 that the U. S. government is holding, um, 176 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:48,968 that, you know, would tell us a lot more 177 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:51,346 ‐about what these objects are. ‐Physical evidence. 178 00:07:51,346 --> 00:07:52,806 ‐Uh, wreckage? ‐That is correct. 179 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,391 Who‐who was that? 180 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:56,351 It's, you know, a well‐known... 181 00:07:56,351 --> 00:07:58,353 someone who worked on this within the government 182 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:00,897 for many years who would know. 183 00:08:00,897 --> 00:08:02,899 And I asked point‐blank, 184 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:07,862 "Is there physical evidence of the existence of these objects, 185 00:08:07,862 --> 00:08:09,197 these aircraft, whatever they are?" 186 00:08:09,197 --> 00:08:10,740 And he said, "Yes, there is." 187 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:12,701 ‐Wreckage in a hangar? ‐Wreckage. 188 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:14,160 ‐He did not say in a hangar. ‐Well, somewhere. 189 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,620 He just said, "The U. S...." He said, 190 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:17,997 "The U. S. government has physical evidence." 191 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:23,586 Here we have a major mainstream news media figure 192 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:25,338 telling it how it is. 193 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:28,258 It goes beyond simply saying, "UFOs are real, 194 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:30,844 they're extraterrestrial." There's something more. 195 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:34,556 Something too terrible to be told. 196 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:37,016 ‐Are they real? ‐I'm not a believer, but 197 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:40,061 we have had people saying that they've seen things. 198 00:08:40,061 --> 00:08:42,647 NARRATOR: But were President Donald Trump's 199 00:08:42,647 --> 00:08:45,567 no‐nonsense answers on the question of UFOs 200 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:50,071 simply an attempt to dismiss the matter once and for all? 201 00:08:50,071 --> 00:08:52,741 If so, it didn't work. 202 00:08:52,741 --> 00:08:55,535 In fact, many saw it as a sign 203 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:58,079 that the U. S. government's policy toward all things 204 00:08:58,079 --> 00:09:01,041 extraterrestrial had begun to take a more candid 205 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:04,377 and possibly more honest turn. 206 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:07,255 And they remain convinced that disclosure 207 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:12,218 is not simply imminent but that it's already underway. 208 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,732 NARRATOR: In a reversal of decades of denial, 209 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:27,901 a Navy spokesman confirms 210 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:30,320 that recently circulated military footage 211 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:36,493 that was thought to show UFOs is in fact authentic. 212 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:39,537 The statement comes just four months after 213 00:09:39,537 --> 00:09:43,249 Navy pilots from the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt 214 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:45,210 revealed to The New York Times 215 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:49,631 that in the summer of 2014 through March 2015, 216 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:52,801 they encountered UFOs on a near daily basis 217 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:56,262 off the East Coast of the United States. 218 00:09:56,262 --> 00:10:00,141 POPE: A number of senators have confirmed that they have 219 00:10:00,141 --> 00:10:03,353 received classified briefings on all this. 220 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:06,272 This is a completely new ball game here. 221 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:09,442 We are in new and uncharted territory. 222 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:12,987 NARRATOR: But do the recent military revelations 223 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:17,033 concerning UFO encounters really mean that we are moving closer 224 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,077 to the day of disclosure? 225 00:10:19,077 --> 00:10:21,412 MAN (over radio): Oh, my gosh, dude. 226 00:10:21,412 --> 00:10:23,331 NARRATOR: Or is it simply that they are equally baffled 227 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:24,958 by what they are witnessing, 228 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:29,504 and seek the help of the general public in finding answers? 229 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:32,757 It's frightening to hear how little 230 00:10:32,757 --> 00:10:36,219 our government truly knows about these unknown vehicles 231 00:10:36,219 --> 00:10:41,474 of unknown origin invading our airspace with impunity 232 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,685 at all times upon their will. 233 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:46,855 POPE: Many people in the UFO community 234 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:51,693 talk about it in terms of it being a single event. 235 00:10:51,693 --> 00:10:54,320 Disclosure with a big "D," as I call it. 236 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,656 In that scenario, 237 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,992 the president clears his schedule, 238 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:01,786 goes on television, announces to the world 239 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:04,455 that there is an alien presence. 240 00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:06,624 Disclosure is simply an acknowledgment 241 00:11:06,624 --> 00:11:08,626 by the established structure of power 242 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:11,045 that UFOs are real 243 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:14,841 and some don't belong to our civilization. 244 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:18,803 POPE: Society is being prepped for this, 245 00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:21,514 some believe, through the revelations 246 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:26,060 about government programs and military encounters. 247 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,314 But all those things we're seeing now 248 00:11:29,314 --> 00:11:33,193 is the government getting ready to tell us 249 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,862 so that there won't be the huge shock 250 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:37,614 and panic when it is announced. 251 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:40,200 Because the point is, with all of this, of course, 252 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,702 you don't shock people so much 253 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:46,664 if you tell them something they already believe or suspect. 254 00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:50,376 NARRATOR: But whether the government's recent revelations 255 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:53,838 about UFOs are the result of an unintended leak 256 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:56,132 or part of a strategic plan, 257 00:11:56,132 --> 00:11:58,551 two things are certain: 258 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:00,762 unexplained encounters are happening 259 00:12:00,762 --> 00:12:03,890 with increasing frequency in U. S. airspace, 260 00:12:03,890 --> 00:12:07,227 and at the same time, the Navy revealed plans 261 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:09,979 to create a new process to make it easier 262 00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:12,732 for pilots to report UFO sightings. 263 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,859 Even though the U. S. military 264 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:16,903 stopped collecting reports for many, many years, 265 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:18,696 they're clearly back in the business 266 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:20,114 of at least filing them, 267 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:22,742 accepting them from their pilots and so on, 268 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:26,204 so I think it is the first real crack in the taboo. 269 00:12:26,204 --> 00:12:27,872 This is not the way it used to be. 270 00:12:27,872 --> 00:12:29,415 It used to be you don't talk 271 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:31,668 about things you see in the sky if you want to fly. 272 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:35,880 So when the Navy loosens up the reporting options 273 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,091 for pilots, that is a huge concession 274 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,759 to the new reality. 275 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,844 GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: If these craft 276 00:12:41,844 --> 00:12:44,138 that are currently being observed‐‐ 277 00:12:44,138 --> 00:12:46,891 if those craft are not ours, 278 00:12:46,891 --> 00:12:49,102 if they are not Russian, 279 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,728 and if they're not Chinese, 280 00:12:50,728 --> 00:12:52,981 we should all wonder who it is 281 00:12:52,981 --> 00:12:55,608 who has that type of aviation technology. 282 00:12:55,608 --> 00:12:59,445 And if it's not someone from our planet, 283 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:01,906 well, who else is left? 284 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:04,409 DOLAN: The fact is that military pilots 285 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:05,618 for years and years have been saying 286 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,120 the same thing publicly. 287 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,413 They just haven't gotten the attention 288 00:13:08,413 --> 00:13:10,123 that these individuals have gotten. 289 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:11,666 That's the difference. 290 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:15,420 And the real question is: why, and why now? 291 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:20,633 POPE: Now we've had these revelations, the Navy videos, 292 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:21,968 the fact that the Navy 293 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,804 have changed their policy, telling their pilots 294 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:26,514 to report, are things changing? 295 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:29,017 And where do you think we're going with this? 296 00:13:29,017 --> 00:13:31,060 I don't think that most news organizations 297 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:34,647 will cover this persistently until some... 298 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:37,608 you know, the alien king breaks into the 6:00 news 299 00:13:37,608 --> 00:13:39,193 and demands obedience. 300 00:13:39,193 --> 00:13:42,280 Right? I think they're gonna persist in ignoring it 301 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,159 because there's just a‐a lot of social pressure to, to scoff. 302 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:48,453 You get societal 303 00:13:48,453 --> 00:13:52,331 breakdown after a while when the people in charge lie. 304 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:55,001 Because it makes it impossible 305 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:58,796 for people to accept anything, any explanation at face value. 306 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:00,965 Um, and it corrodes the bonds that, 307 00:14:00,965 --> 00:14:03,176 that connect the government 308 00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:05,094 to its citizens, so... 309 00:14:05,094 --> 00:14:07,805 I think it's very likely that we're gonna learn more. 310 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:10,683 NARRATOR: There are many who believe 311 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,269 that the disclosure process is not new 312 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:16,355 but has simply entered a different phase. 313 00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:21,277 They argue that disclosure actually started decades ago, 314 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:25,448 and was part of a strategic plan to prep the global population 315 00:14:25,448 --> 00:14:27,366 by means of books, movies, 316 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:33,039 TV shows, and other forms of popular entertainment. 317 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:35,500 BASSETT: 45% of the American people right now, 318 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:38,377 when polled, say that, yeah, the ETs are already here. 319 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:41,547 They've been watching movies since they were five years old 320 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:43,341 about extraterrestrials. 321 00:14:43,341 --> 00:14:46,219 We have been heavily indoctrinated or educated 322 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:48,096 on the concept of extraterrestrials. 323 00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:50,765 We fly in spaceships in‐in our CGI movies. 324 00:14:50,765 --> 00:14:53,643 So the idea that suddenly we're told there's extraterrestrials 325 00:14:53,643 --> 00:14:56,062 actually here as being some unbelievable, 326 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:58,397 had‐no‐idea kind of thing‐‐ no. 327 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:01,109 NARRATOR But if mankind is on a so‐called 328 00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:02,819 "countdown to disclosure," 329 00:15:02,819 --> 00:15:06,906 does that simply mean that our government and those 330 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,868 around the world are aware that intelligent life does exist 331 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:12,954 on some other, distant planet? 332 00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:16,916 Or does it suggest that some form of alien intelligence 333 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:20,586 has already come here, and may, in fact, 334 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:24,757 have been living here for centuries? 335 00:15:28,678 --> 00:15:30,763 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists 336 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:33,516 and UFO enthusiasts are concerned, 337 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:35,393 the sudden flurry of information 338 00:15:35,393 --> 00:15:37,353 concerning possible alien encounters 339 00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:40,940 comes as no surprise. 340 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:43,943 For them, evidence of extraterrestrial 341 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:48,114 encounters has been obvious for several decades. 342 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,283 What has them baffled, however, 343 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:53,786 is the fact that after decades of harsh denials, 344 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:56,831 governments all over the world are beginning 345 00:15:56,831 --> 00:15:59,750 to open up their files and cooperate. 346 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,545 DOLAN: In fact, there's been a disclosure movement 347 00:16:02,545 --> 00:16:04,297 for about 70 years now. 348 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:07,133 Starting in the 1950s, you get 349 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:09,385 an organization known as NICAP 350 00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:13,014 formed in the late '50s with the express intent 351 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:16,017 of researching UFOs in a very meticulous way, 352 00:16:16,017 --> 00:16:17,977 at the same time getting political action 353 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:19,478 on this matter in Congress. 354 00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:21,981 PODESTA: I think that there's been a history 355 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,483 and a perception that the government 356 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:27,570 has been hiding the ball. 357 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:29,822 And I think there's a reason for that, 358 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:33,784 which is that most of the investigations, 359 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:37,163 uh, has been done through classified programs. 360 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:39,415 And I think that's led to a lot of speculation 361 00:16:39,415 --> 00:16:40,708 about what the government's hiding. 362 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:44,003 And the best disinfectant is 363 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,839 to let the American people know what the truth is. 364 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:50,218 CORBELL: That system was a closed loop for a long time. 365 00:16:50,218 --> 00:16:52,220 However, after the recent events, 366 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:53,679 the Navy has then changed 367 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:57,350 their attitude towards reporting these things. 368 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,310 This is big, this is real, 369 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:02,813 this is happening, and if‐if you don't understand it, 370 00:17:02,813 --> 00:17:04,690 it's time for you catch up. 371 00:17:06,776 --> 00:17:09,946 NARRATOR: Many date the origin of both the first U. S. government cover‐up 372 00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:14,325 and the disclosure movement to July 1947‐‐ 373 00:17:14,325 --> 00:17:18,371 the date of the now‐famous Roswell UFO crash. 374 00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:21,582 The incident began when the Air Force 375 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,085 issued an astounding press release 376 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:26,379 stating that the military recovered the remains 377 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,924 of a "flying disc" from a New Mexico ranch. 378 00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:33,928 The story immediately became front‐page news 379 00:17:33,928 --> 00:17:36,097 in the local paper. 380 00:17:36,097 --> 00:17:39,392 But within a day, officials retracted 381 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,769 their initial statement and dismissed the find 382 00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:45,523 as simply debris from a downed weather balloon. 383 00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:51,821 The first press release was the truth. 384 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:55,408 And the second one was a lie. 385 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:58,244 And I call it "the foundational lie." 386 00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:02,665 Because, to the best of my knowledge, 387 00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:05,293 from that day, 1947, 388 00:18:05,293 --> 00:18:09,964 until 2017, the group that became 389 00:18:09,964 --> 00:18:12,800 what we have called the shadow government has not told 390 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,430 the truth about anything of significance. 391 00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:21,684 NARRATOR: Shortly after the Roswell incident, 392 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:24,478 various groups and individuals began demanding 393 00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:27,982 that the U. S. military tell the truth about UFOs. 394 00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:31,319 But although the government formed 395 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,404 a series of investigative bodies, 396 00:18:33,404 --> 00:18:35,239 including Project Grudge, 397 00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:37,491 Project Blue Book, and the Condon Committee, 398 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,870 they never produced any viable evidence. 399 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:44,999 In retrospect, many consider that such government efforts 400 00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,792 were designed not to promote disclosure 401 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:49,378 but to stifle it. 402 00:18:49,378 --> 00:18:51,464 They would investigate cases. 403 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:53,924 And the intriguing thing about all of it is, 404 00:18:53,924 --> 00:18:57,178 is maybe ten percent of the cases that they looked at 405 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:58,638 were unexplainable. 406 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:01,641 They did not know what they were. 407 00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:04,352 They always come out officially after and go, 408 00:19:04,352 --> 00:19:06,103 "Hey, there's some things we can't explain here, 409 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:07,647 "but there's nothing to see, there's no ET, 410 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,398 "there's no evidence of any kind 411 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:11,942 of extraterrestrial‐controlled craft flying in the skies." 412 00:19:14,278 --> 00:19:16,739 NARRATOR: When the CIA formed a scientific committee 413 00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:21,786 called the Robertson Panel to review unsolved UFO cases, 414 00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:25,581 the committee found that continued reporting on UFOs 415 00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:29,210 might cause "hysterical mass behavior." 416 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:32,380 It issued a top secret recommendation 417 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:35,716 suggesting that the government undertake an aggressive 418 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:38,344 public relations campaign to systematically 419 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:40,471 debunk UFO sightings. 420 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:45,851 This is the‐the typical government response. 421 00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:47,895 Just form a panel and tell everybody that what 422 00:19:47,895 --> 00:19:51,148 they think they saw is not what is the actual reality. 423 00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:56,529 WHITEHEAD: I think that was the start of the propaganda machine. 424 00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,781 It's counterintelligence information. 425 00:19:58,781 --> 00:20:01,409 So they release little bits of truth, but then 426 00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:02,743 they just say, "You know what? 427 00:20:02,743 --> 00:20:03,744 "It‐‐ there's nothing to see here. 428 00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:06,163 Go back to sleep." 429 00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:10,418 NARRATOR: Over the decades, 430 00:20:10,418 --> 00:20:12,128 and despite government denials, 431 00:20:12,128 --> 00:20:14,588 a robust citizens' movement took shape 432 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:17,550 that investigated incidents, published reports, 433 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:19,468 and held news conferences‐‐ 434 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:23,097 all in an attempt to demand disclosure. 435 00:20:23,097 --> 00:20:27,059 One notable effort was the Citizens' Hearing on Disclosure, 436 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:30,229 held in Washington in 2013, 437 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,648 in which multiple credible witnesses 438 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:35,818 testified about UFO incursions. 439 00:20:35,818 --> 00:20:39,405 There is no doubt that the United States government 440 00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:41,574 has known about the extraterrestrial 441 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,784 interactions with Earth 442 00:20:43,784 --> 00:20:46,537 and that their policies of denial in the alleged interest 443 00:20:46,537 --> 00:20:49,957 of national security are still in effect. 444 00:20:49,957 --> 00:20:52,418 BASSETT: Paradigm Research Group, 445 00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:54,462 my organization, 446 00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:58,215 began by delivering to the entire Congress a full 447 00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,885 30 hours of testimony, which I felt, and many do feel, 448 00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:04,263 was the most important citizen disclosure event at that time. 449 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:08,058 These objects know in great detail 450 00:21:08,058 --> 00:21:09,477 how our missiles operate and they can 451 00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:11,479 shut down our missiles at any time. 452 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:13,355 We got a lot of media attention, 453 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:16,859 in‐including some attention from Congress. 454 00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:19,195 Um, and, of course, we had these ex‐congressmen 455 00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:21,697 sit in as we presented our case. 456 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:25,159 So this movement, disclosure movement, uh, 457 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:27,077 has been going on for some time. 458 00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:29,997 What kind of defense do we have against these things? 459 00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:32,500 I think we changed a lot of minds. 460 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,043 But then, of course, things... 461 00:21:34,043 --> 00:21:35,711 (laughs) changed the next day, 462 00:21:35,711 --> 00:21:37,463 The‐the news cycles. 463 00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:42,510 NARRATOR: For years, UFO advocates have argued 464 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:45,513 that such high‐profile efforts were secretly subjected 465 00:21:45,513 --> 00:21:47,890 to government whisper campaigns, 466 00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,142 each designed to discredit witnesses 467 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:53,354 and divert public attention from disclosure. 468 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:55,648 TSOUKALOS: The government did everything 469 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:58,818 in order to stop these whistleblowers 470 00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:02,530 or to deny these witnesses, but guess what. 471 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:05,533 That did not stop the whistleblowers from talking 472 00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:08,786 and it certainly did not stop the research. 473 00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:12,373 In fact, this little flame 474 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:17,419 that began in the 1950s is now a raging fire. 475 00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:20,756 And it is illuminating all of the darkness. 476 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:24,718 NARRATOR: But if the government has been conspiring 477 00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:27,680 to silence UFO researchers, witnesses, 478 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,559 and believers since the Roswell crash... why? 479 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,270 Is it to avoid widespread panic? 480 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:37,940 Or was it something more strategic? 481 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:40,776 Possibly, it was designed to keep the knowledge 482 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,863 that was gleaned from extraterrestrial encounters 483 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:47,867 from getting into so‐called enemy hands. 484 00:22:56,750 --> 00:23:00,588 NARRATOR: Prominent think tank the Brookings Institution 485 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,590 issues a 186‐page, 486 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:06,176 government‐funded report that examines, in part, 487 00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:08,929 the question of how humanity would react 488 00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:11,974 to the discovery of extraterrestrial life. 489 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:18,063 The report speculates that if NASA were to make 490 00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:22,651 such a discovery public, it could result in chaos. 491 00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:25,988 BASSETT: They used the Brookings Institute 492 00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:27,656 to get a report done and to talk 493 00:23:27,656 --> 00:23:29,742 about the implications of this. 494 00:23:29,742 --> 00:23:31,327 And it was kind of about, 495 00:23:31,327 --> 00:23:33,370 "Oh, people will panic, 496 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:34,830 "uh, markets will collapse, 497 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:36,790 religion will collapse," blah, blah, blah. 498 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:39,418 (indistinct shouting) 499 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,211 HELLYER: I would be willing to accept 500 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:44,381 that the original decision 501 00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:47,551 to, uh, withhold the truth 502 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:51,764 was based partly, at least, on that concern. 503 00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:55,726 But that, over the years, has disappeared totally. 504 00:23:57,394 --> 00:23:59,772 NARRATOR: In a 2018 study conducted 505 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:02,024 by Arizona State University, 506 00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:04,693 participants were asked to review media stories 507 00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:06,779 about recent discoveries 508 00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:09,907 that suggest extraterrestrial life exists. 509 00:24:09,907 --> 00:24:14,203 Surprisingly, researchers found that in the 2000s, 510 00:24:14,203 --> 00:24:15,955 the reaction to this idea 511 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:19,625 has become almost entirely positive. 512 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:22,503 HENRY: What this suggests is that, even from a religious perspective, 513 00:24:22,503 --> 00:24:25,297 people have grown more accepting 514 00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:28,217 of the possibility of extraterrestrial life. 515 00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:32,888 NARRATOR: If fears of creating widespread panic are outdated, 516 00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:36,141 why is the U. S. military still so reluctant 517 00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:38,060 to share what it has learned 518 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:40,479 about extraterrestrials and UFOs? 519 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:45,150 The fact that there might be panic in the streets, 520 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,320 I‐I think that was more of an excuse. 521 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,240 I think, uh, the military aspect‐‐ 522 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,450 that the recovered craft 523 00:24:53,450 --> 00:24:56,787 could be used to develop military weaponry‐‐ 524 00:24:56,787 --> 00:25:00,582 was probably more the reason for the secrecy. 525 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:13,220 Two fighter pilots from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz 526 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:16,181 investigate an unidentified aircraft 527 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,183 off the coast of San Diego. 528 00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:22,813 They encounter a bright white, oval‐shaped craft 529 00:25:22,813 --> 00:25:24,982 that resembles a massive Tic Tac‐‐ 530 00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:26,900 over 40 feet long, 531 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,361 and it has no windshield or wings. 532 00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:39,121 According to Navy pilot David Fravor, 533 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,290 the ship makes seemingly impossible stops 534 00:25:41,290 --> 00:25:42,916 and turns over the Pacific 535 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,127 before accelerating away 536 00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:47,296 at thousands of miles per hour. 537 00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:51,341 HOWE: And this is David Fravor, 538 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,719 skilled pilot. 539 00:25:53,719 --> 00:25:56,472 He said, "I am looking 540 00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:59,266 "at speeds, 541 00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:01,435 "90‐degree angles, 542 00:26:01,435 --> 00:26:03,729 stopping." 543 00:26:03,729 --> 00:26:07,274 Any human inside of what I'm watching 544 00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:10,486 could not sustain life. 545 00:26:10,486 --> 00:26:13,238 MICHIO KAKU: We have these videotapes. 546 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,741 We can actually calculate the velocity 547 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:16,784 of these objects. 548 00:26:16,784 --> 00:26:18,911 We can calculate the g‐forces 549 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:20,454 on these ships. 550 00:26:20,454 --> 00:26:22,456 So that's the sea change. 551 00:26:22,456 --> 00:26:25,250 It used to be that if you were a UFO believer, 552 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,960 the burden of proof was on you 553 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,255 to prove that you saw something in the sky. 554 00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,257 Now it's shifted. 555 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:35,761 Now the establishment has to prove 556 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:39,181 that it isn't a visitor from another planet. 557 00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:41,600 NARRATOR: For UFO researchers, 558 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,977 the recent videos finally provide 559 00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:46,146 clear evidence not only of what the government 560 00:26:46,146 --> 00:26:48,607 has been hiding for decades... 561 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:55,614 ...but the potential reason for the cover‐up. 562 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,991 The technology is the key. 563 00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:00,619 If any single factor 564 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:02,996 explains UFO secrecy, 565 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:06,125 it's the aspiration to acquire 566 00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:08,669 extraterrestrial technology. 567 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:11,588 The nation that first acquires that technology 568 00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:14,424 is going to be in game‐changing territory. 569 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:17,386 This is truly an arms race. 570 00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:20,722 Whoever figures this out first wins. 571 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:25,644 So any developed nation is looking right now to leap ahead 572 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:28,355 with a technological innovation, based upon 573 00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:31,483 the reverse engineering of what we're seeing in the skies. 574 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:34,361 What our pilots are engaging in the skies. 575 00:27:34,361 --> 00:27:36,572 What Commander Fravor chased. 576 00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:40,450 NARRATOR: To many, the military's desire 577 00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:43,203 to monopolize extraterrestrial technology 578 00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:46,665 is reason enough to explain a cover‐up. 579 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:49,376 But some believe there are additional motives 580 00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,378 for government secrecy. 581 00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:53,714 While others point to a general culture 582 00:27:53,714 --> 00:27:57,259 of bureaucratic secrecy that pervades all of government. 583 00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:00,596 Some disclosure advocates say that the reason why 584 00:28:00,596 --> 00:28:04,224 we haven't seen disclosure yet is because of economics. 585 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:07,936 That you have an oil‐based economy, and clearly 586 00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:10,856 the craft that we see in the skies are not running on oil. 587 00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:12,691 They're using advanced propulsion systems 588 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,568 that would completely transform 589 00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:17,654 the economies of Earth if they're ever implemented. 590 00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,406 HELLYER: So, yes. 591 00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:22,242 It would have a negative financial 592 00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:24,745 impact for the wealthiest people 593 00:28:24,745 --> 00:28:26,914 who own the oil in the ground. 594 00:28:26,914 --> 00:28:31,418 But it's not the whole story. 595 00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:32,753 PODESTA: The government 596 00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:34,504 seems to be completely unaccountable 597 00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:36,381 to the American public. 598 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,800 They may be accountable to their superiors 599 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,428 in the Department of Defense or at NASA or others. 600 00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:46,475 But they rarely release anything they do know. 601 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:53,065 WENDT: I think we're afraid to find out what these phenomena are. 602 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:55,609 Governments in particular are afraid, and the reason for that, 603 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:57,277 I think, is because the contract between 604 00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:58,779 governments and their people 605 00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:00,656 is that governments provide security, 606 00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:02,950 and that we provide loyalty to the government. 607 00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:05,452 If you even raise the issue of the possibility 608 00:29:05,452 --> 00:29:08,121 that UFOs are ETs, 609 00:29:08,121 --> 00:29:10,332 then that raises big questions 610 00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:12,584 about that contract because it's clear that the government 611 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:16,254 cannot provide security for us from these beings. 612 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:18,340 And that would call into question, well, why should I 613 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:20,384 be loyal to the government and everything else? 614 00:29:20,384 --> 00:29:22,469 It would undermine the sovereignty of the government, 615 00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:24,638 the sovereignty of the state. 616 00:29:24,638 --> 00:29:28,350 NARRATOR: But even with a growing number of more open‐minded policies 617 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:31,144 concerning both UFO reporting 618 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,647 and disclosure, there are many 619 00:29:33,647 --> 00:29:36,316 who doubt that the U. S. military's penchant for secrecy 620 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:40,779 will ever really allow full disclosure. 621 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:43,865 They insist that America is far too afraid 622 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:46,910 that extraterrestrial knowledge could fall into the hands 623 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:48,996 of its territorial enemies 624 00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:52,124 to ever admit that aliens do exist. 625 00:29:59,715 --> 00:30:02,134 NARRATOR: Santiago, Chile. 626 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:06,013 November 11, 2014. 627 00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:08,849 A Chilean Navy helicopter 628 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:10,976 is on a routine daytime patrol mission 629 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:14,146 flying north along the coast, west of Santiago. 630 00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:18,483 While filming the terrain, 631 00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,068 a technician observes a strange object 632 00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:22,612 flying to the left, over the ocean. 633 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,492 He aims his camera and records the encounter. 634 00:30:30,871 --> 00:30:35,167 The Navy immediately turns over the footage to the CEFAA‐‐ 635 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:39,212 the Chilean government agency that investigates UFOs. 636 00:30:39,212 --> 00:30:41,757 And they release it. 637 00:30:41,757 --> 00:30:45,719 We have the Chilean government also releasing all kinds of 638 00:30:45,719 --> 00:30:49,598 fighter footage from their own military jets. 639 00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:54,644 So the government and the‐the military 640 00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:57,522 has been studying this for over 70 years. 641 00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:01,526 And they must have so much evidence, 642 00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:06,198 in‐including video footage, that they are keeping secret from us 643 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:08,366 that would boggle your mind. 644 00:31:09,743 --> 00:31:11,912 NARRATOR: Over the past ten years, 645 00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:14,915 there has been a movement among many governments 646 00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:17,959 to declassify some of their UFO investigations 647 00:31:17,959 --> 00:31:19,920 and release them to the public. 648 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,755 PODESTA: I think that people 649 00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:23,715 around the world, in Belgium and Chile and in, 650 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,676 in, uh, the U. K. and other countries have said, 651 00:31:26,676 --> 00:31:29,096 "You know, we ought to, we ought to really take a look 652 00:31:29,096 --> 00:31:30,430 at what's going on." 653 00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:31,932 DOLAN: But the fact is, 654 00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:34,267 the U. S. intelligence infrastructure 655 00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:36,394 is often deeply imbedded in the infrastructures 656 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:37,771 of those countries. 657 00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:39,606 So, in other words, they can't say boo 658 00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:43,068 without the U. S. and NSA, particularly, knowing about it. 659 00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:46,279 NARRATOR: If allies of the United States 660 00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:48,740 are reluctant to disclose the facts 661 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:52,285 about UFOs and possible extraterrestrial visitation 662 00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:54,579 without American permission, 663 00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:57,582 what about America's adversaries? 664 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,588 Hangzhou, China. 665 00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:07,134 July 7, 2010. 666 00:32:07,134 --> 00:32:11,763 Chinese officials shut down Xiaoshan International Airport 667 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,515 for nearly an hour 668 00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:17,519 after an unidentified aircraft is seen in the vicinity. 669 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:23,650 The incident marks one of the very few times 670 00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:25,861 the Chinese ever publicly admit 671 00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:28,864 that UFO sightings happen in their country. 672 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:37,873 POPE: I can't see any circumstances where disclosure 673 00:32:37,873 --> 00:32:42,002 of an alien presence would do anything other than loosen 674 00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:47,132 the hold of the party on the people. 675 00:32:47,132 --> 00:32:51,720 It's not in China's interest to disclose. 676 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,347 NARRATOR: In Russia, 677 00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:56,808 details about any recent UFO incidents 678 00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,311 are even harder to come by, 679 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:04,316 as all media outlets are currently controlled by one man, 680 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,318 Vladimir Putin. 681 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:11,907 Announcing the existence of aliens is not in any way 682 00:33:11,907 --> 00:33:15,744 going to strengthen Putin's hold on power. 683 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:20,457 Why would he? What's, what's the benefit to him? 684 00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:24,044 What would he get out of it? 685 00:33:24,044 --> 00:33:27,297 Putting one over on the Americans? Well, maybe. 686 00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:31,259 But the downside, in terms of the one thing 687 00:33:31,259 --> 00:33:33,595 that Putin can't afford‐‐ instability‐‐ 688 00:33:33,595 --> 00:33:36,514 the downside is too big to gamble with. 689 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,227 NARRATOR: But if China and Russia 690 00:33:40,227 --> 00:33:42,270 are unwilling to disclose what they know 691 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:45,315 about possible extraterrestrial contact, 692 00:33:45,315 --> 00:33:48,026 and no other countries will do so 693 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,862 without the blessing of the United States, 694 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:55,825 then why are we beginning to see a gradually more open attitude 695 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:59,621 concerning disclosure on the part of the U. S. military? 696 00:33:59,621 --> 00:34:02,916 What has changed in recent years? 697 00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:06,920 Ancient astronaut theorists believe the answer can be found 698 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,546 by taking a closer look 699 00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:12,884 at recent activities involving America's space program. 700 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:20,475 Boca Chica, Texas. 701 00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:25,230 August 27, 2019. 702 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:28,233 SpaceX, a private aerospace company 703 00:34:28,233 --> 00:34:30,568 run by billionaire Elon Musk, 704 00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:33,905 announces the successful fourth and final test flight 705 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:37,075 of their starship prototype Starhopper. 706 00:34:39,286 --> 00:34:42,872 The craft is an early conceptual model 707 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:45,041 that Musk hopes will bring the company closer 708 00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:49,587 to its ultimate goal: creating a 100‐person starship 709 00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:52,882 capable of transporting humans to Mars. 710 00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:58,179 PODESTA: I think in the private sector, oddly, there's the potential 711 00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:01,808 to have at least more public disclosure, 712 00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:05,270 given the fact that the Air Force have been so unwilling 713 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:10,442 to try to seriously review and release what they do know. 714 00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:16,239 NARRATOR: As far as many ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 715 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,618 the ongoing efforts to privatize space exploration, 716 00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:22,162 by everyone from Elon Musk 717 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:24,789 and Amazon.com billionaire Jeff Bezos 718 00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:29,210 to Robert Bigelow and Virgin Atlantic's Richard Branson, 719 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,838 will soon make secrecy about UFOs 720 00:35:31,838 --> 00:35:35,467 and possible alien visitations a thing of the past. 721 00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:42,432 TSOUKALOS: Sooner or later, there will be space tourists, 722 00:35:42,432 --> 00:35:45,644 so what if they walk on the surface of Mars 723 00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:50,190 or the surface of‐of the Moon and will walk by an artifact? 724 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,734 Well, am I allowed to take a‐a selfie? 725 00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:55,070 Am I allowed to take a photo? 726 00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:58,281 Or do I have to go through NASA first? 727 00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:01,951 You're not going to ask NASA for permission first. 728 00:36:01,951 --> 00:36:05,747 The fact that we are now entering this new era 729 00:36:05,747 --> 00:36:10,543 in space exploration illustrates to me 730 00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:13,588 that the doors are open. 731 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:20,887 NARRATOR: In a world that includes 24‐hour news, WikiLeaks, 732 00:36:20,887 --> 00:36:24,057 and a growing number of corporate space entrepreneurs, 733 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:28,478 is discovering the truth about aliens simply inevitable? 734 00:36:28,478 --> 00:36:30,980 Throughout history, governments have never been able 735 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,565 to keep a secret. 736 00:36:32,565 --> 00:36:34,192 Look at all the so‐called secrets 737 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:38,405 that are being exposed almost on a daily basis. 738 00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:41,408 Governments are furious that some lowly clerk 739 00:36:41,408 --> 00:36:45,245 is simply leaking all this evidence into the public domain, 740 00:36:45,245 --> 00:36:47,622 and so I think it's gonna happen anyway. 741 00:36:47,622 --> 00:36:50,917 But at that point, what do we do? 742 00:36:50,917 --> 00:36:53,837 POPE: I think there is huge 743 00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:55,255 public interest in this... 744 00:36:55,255 --> 00:36:57,966 ‐Yes. ‐...and everyone wants to know what's going on. 745 00:36:57,966 --> 00:37:00,385 Why will the government not tell us? 746 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:01,845 Well, whose government is it? 747 00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:05,765 Does it belong to some GS‐13, some bureaucrat? 748 00:37:05,765 --> 00:37:07,892 Of course not. We pay for it. 749 00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:10,353 We own it. This is a democracy. 750 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,814 The default setting in D. C. is secrecy. 751 00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:15,483 There are still documents from the First World War, 752 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:20,071 which was 102 years ago, that are classified. 753 00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:23,158 So, there's a lot of information in Washington 754 00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:25,618 that ought to be public but that is not. 755 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:28,830 If you want to fix that, what you need is just political will. 756 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:31,499 You need someone to stand up and say I'm not gonna be quiet. 757 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:34,002 Look me in the eye, speak slowly so I can understand. 758 00:37:34,002 --> 00:37:36,254 Why are we not sharing this with the public? 759 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,714 I want to make this stuff public. 760 00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:53,938 Scientists, academics and researchers 761 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:57,275 gather at the Royal Society for a conference titled 762 00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:00,069 "The detection of extra‐terrestrial life 763 00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:03,364 and the consequences for science and society." 764 00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:07,410 Although their stated goal is to create protocols for the world 765 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:10,622 in the event of an extraterrestrial visitation, 766 00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:13,458 they are unable to come up with a cohesive plan. 767 00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:17,295 In fact, thus far, no official protocol 768 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:19,923 for a post‐disclosure world has been offered 769 00:38:19,923 --> 00:38:22,467 by the United Nations, the U. S. government, 770 00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:26,221 or any other global superpower. 771 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,848 HENRY: We have military plans, 772 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:30,809 economic plans, 773 00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:33,436 we've got health care plans for people. 774 00:38:33,436 --> 00:38:35,605 But no plan for the single most important event 775 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:37,148 in human history? 776 00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:39,025 How can that be, or why is that? 777 00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:41,611 POPE: In government, you call it a low probability, 778 00:38:41,611 --> 00:38:43,988 high‐impact scenario. 779 00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,991 Even if you think something is unlikely to happen, 780 00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:51,621 if the societal consequences of it happening are big enough, 781 00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:53,998 you sure as heck need a plan. 782 00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:56,668 There isn't one for extraterrestrials. 783 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,294 There should be. 784 00:38:58,294 --> 00:39:00,713 We have to prep the population. 785 00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:03,383 Prep humanity for what this means. 786 00:39:03,383 --> 00:39:06,135 And that's not something that could be done in a week or two. 787 00:39:06,135 --> 00:39:09,514 That's gonna require a long, long discussion‐‐ 788 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:11,808 ethical discussion, political discussion‐‐ 789 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,686 about humanity and our place in the universe and so on. 790 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:17,188 That's a long process. 791 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:21,526 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 792 00:39:21,526 --> 00:39:24,028 whether the truth about alien encounters 793 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:27,490 is revealed by world powers, renegade journalists, 794 00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:31,077 whistleblowers, or the extraterrestrials themselves, 795 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,621 disclosure is inevitable. 796 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,584 TSOUKALOS: We are in the midst 797 00:39:37,584 --> 00:39:43,715 of finding out about our true cosmic origin on planet Earth, 798 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:48,970 and right now it is one of the most exciting times to be alive. 799 00:39:48,970 --> 00:39:53,224 And what I hope for after full disclosure 800 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,894 is that we finally come together 801 00:39:55,894 --> 00:40:00,690 as one human species and understanding 802 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:04,527 that we are on this blue marble together. 803 00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:09,365 I think it would change humanity's consciousness. 804 00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:12,201 COMMAND: Okay, Neil, we can see you coming down the ladder now. 805 00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:14,913 PODESTA: Perhaps, much like when the astronauts 806 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:18,750 first took photos of the Earth from space, 807 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:23,212 and you began to see the fragility and the beauty 808 00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:26,341 of the Earth when shot from the Moon. 809 00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:31,346 That, I think, changed the way people related 810 00:40:31,346 --> 00:40:34,766 to the natural world, to our place in the universe. 811 00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:37,727 And I think it could have the same kind of effect. 812 00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:41,606 CORBELL: This will come from us, 813 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:44,442 not from a big daddy government. 814 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,736 This is gonna come from the people. 815 00:40:46,736 --> 00:40:51,324 Disclosure is up to individuals in this world 816 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:53,117 asking the right questions. 817 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,328 Because questions are weapons, 818 00:40:55,328 --> 00:40:57,121 and if we ask the right questions, 819 00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:58,998 we're gonna get the right answers. 820 00:41:00,249 --> 00:41:02,210 POPE: I think the next time 821 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:03,962 you're with the president on Air Force One, 822 00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:06,589 you should give him a couple of beers and, uh, 823 00:41:06,589 --> 00:41:09,050 get the conversation going and say, "Come on," 824 00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:10,677 you know, "What‐What's going on?" 825 00:41:10,677 --> 00:41:12,637 You know, the funny thing is, I was on Air Force One. 826 00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:14,973 I had dinner with him alone and I should have asked him that. 827 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:16,641 ‐Thank you guys for coming. ‐Yeah, no, thanks. 828 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,017 ‐It was so nice to meet you in person. ‐Yeah. 829 00:41:18,017 --> 00:41:19,268 Nice to meet you in person. 830 00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,146 NARRATOR: If mankind really is 831 00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:25,108 on the verge of discovering that extraterrestrials 832 00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:28,653 not only exist but that they've been right here on Earth 833 00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:32,782 throughout human history, will it really come as a shock? 834 00:41:32,782 --> 00:41:35,326 Or will it merely be a confirmation of a truth 835 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:40,540 that somehow we've always known deep within ourselves? 836 00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:44,502 It is for this reason that ancient astronaut theorists 837 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,964 believe disclosure isn't an event that others must trigger 838 00:41:47,964 --> 00:41:50,091 in order for it to happen. 839 00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:53,011 It's happening every day. 840 00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:57,348 And it's not because information we are receiving has changed. 841 00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,351 What's changed is the way we interpret it 842 00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:03,521 and our willingness to accept the simple fact 843 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:06,649 that we are not alone. 844 00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:09,235 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 67579

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