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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:20,687 -When the Hells Angels need to put out a hit on somebody, 2 00:00:20,821 --> 00:00:23,090 they will oftentimes recruit people 3 00:00:23,223 --> 00:00:25,425 that are not Hells Angels. 4 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:27,060 -Ted Soke was a very rough guy. 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,662 Always had a knife on his side. 6 00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:30,530 You know, he's always been known to be 7 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:32,966 affiliated with the H.A.'s. 8 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:37,271 -Ted would do anything for the Hells Angels. Anything. 9 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:40,240 He just idolized them. 10 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:42,376 -The Hells Angels really don't have any qualms about, 11 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:45,078 you know, recruiting from, you know, the dregs of society. 12 00:00:45,178 --> 00:00:46,980 They're going to recruit sociopaths 13 00:00:47,114 --> 00:00:50,617 who are so used to killing, it doesn't mean anything to them. 14 00:00:50,751 --> 00:00:54,254 -Ted was like a puppet master. He had to have a puppet. 15 00:00:54,388 --> 00:00:56,290 Donny would do anything for Ted. 16 00:00:56,423 --> 00:00:57,824 -He was his hero. You know what I mean? 17 00:00:57,891 --> 00:00:59,426 His dad was his hero. 18 00:00:59,493 --> 00:01:01,628 -Donny buried his first bodies with his father 19 00:01:01,695 --> 00:01:03,664 when he was 10 or 11 years old. 20 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:06,066 -This is who they're willing to get to do their dirty work. 21 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:17,744 [ Motorcycle engine starts ] 22 00:01:17,844 --> 00:01:19,947 -Over and over, they say they are not criminals. 23 00:01:20,047 --> 00:01:22,182 They're rebels, rebelling against a society 24 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:23,951 for which they have no respect. 25 00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:27,220 ♪ 26 00:01:27,287 --> 00:01:29,222 -We never gave a [bleep] about what anybody else thought. 27 00:01:29,323 --> 00:01:34,094 ♪♪ 28 00:01:34,227 --> 00:01:36,630 -We're mostly a bunch of happy-go-lucky guys 29 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:38,732 trying to make it in this world, you know? 30 00:01:38,865 --> 00:01:40,901 -They're misfits, they're outlaws, 31 00:01:40,968 --> 00:01:43,737 and they defy the laws of attraction. 32 00:01:43,870 --> 00:01:46,640 -You know, I idolize them. I adore them. 33 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:49,509 They're my whole life. 34 00:01:49,610 --> 00:01:52,179 -Angels forever, forever Angels. 35 00:01:52,312 --> 00:01:53,947 Speaks for itself. 36 00:01:54,047 --> 00:01:55,882 ♪♪ 37 00:01:55,983 --> 00:01:58,986 -The Hells Angels are not a criminal organization. 38 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:01,021 -Why don't you people go home?! 39 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:03,824 It's an organization with criminals in it. 40 00:02:03,924 --> 00:02:06,626 ♪♪ 41 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:11,131 -The Hells Angels run a massive propaganda scheme. 42 00:02:11,264 --> 00:02:14,468 And the unknowing gulped down that Hells Angels Kool-Aid. 43 00:02:14,534 --> 00:02:17,237 -Everybody, just cool out! 44 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:19,072 Hells Angels, everybody. 45 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,375 -That is all designed to hide 46 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:24,711 murder, rape, drug trafficking, gun-running, 47 00:02:24,778 --> 00:02:27,280 extortion, assault, arson. 48 00:02:27,381 --> 00:02:29,683 ♪♪ 49 00:02:29,783 --> 00:02:31,752 -I'm not trying to glorify my life, 50 00:02:31,852 --> 00:02:35,288 but I'm certainly not going to apologize for it. 51 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:39,126 -I'm doing extreme stuff. For what? 52 00:02:39,259 --> 00:02:41,061 -I'm telling it the way it really happened. 53 00:02:41,128 --> 00:02:43,864 I never thought I'd be talking openly about this stuff. 54 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:45,899 -Ready for this? -I'm ready. 55 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:53,740 ♪ 56 00:02:53,874 --> 00:02:57,678 -As to count one, aggravated murder, 57 00:02:57,744 --> 00:03:02,082 this court sentences you to life in prison 58 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:05,819 without chance of parole before 30 years. 59 00:03:05,886 --> 00:03:09,556 ♪ 60 00:03:09,656 --> 00:03:10,857 -Before I talk to you, 61 00:03:10,991 --> 00:03:12,325 I mean, this isn't your first rodeo, 62 00:03:12,459 --> 00:03:14,694 so you know I have to read you your rights, correct? 63 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:16,797 Um, so, before I ask you any questions, 64 00:03:16,897 --> 00:03:18,665 it's my duty to advise you of your rights. 65 00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:20,167 You have the right to remain silent. 66 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:21,802 Do you understand? -Yes, ma'am. 67 00:03:21,902 --> 00:03:23,870 -Anything you say can be used against you 68 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:26,506 in a court or other proceedings. Do you understand? 69 00:03:26,573 --> 00:03:28,141 You have the right to talk to a lawyer... 70 00:03:28,275 --> 00:03:37,184 ♪ 71 00:03:37,284 --> 00:03:40,954 Can you kind of tell me about yourself in 1984? 72 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,690 What was going on? What were you doing? 73 00:03:43,824 --> 00:03:45,025 -A lot of things. 74 00:03:45,092 --> 00:03:46,059 A lot of things I shouldn't have been doing. 75 00:03:46,126 --> 00:03:48,295 So, me and my dad. 76 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:50,130 -Like, what was your job? What did you do? 77 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:52,499 Did you just do stuff for your dad or...? 78 00:03:52,566 --> 00:03:57,204 -No, I -- Uh, landscaping, bodywork. 79 00:03:57,304 --> 00:04:00,107 I find odd jobs, um... 80 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:01,308 Killing people. 81 00:04:01,374 --> 00:04:04,377 ♪ 82 00:04:06,146 --> 00:04:13,487 ♪ 83 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:15,021 I had a choice, but not really. 84 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:18,458 12 years old, 13 years old, what kid has? 85 00:04:18,525 --> 00:04:19,793 -Yeah, right. -You know? 86 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:21,628 You know, I'm not proud of the things I did, 87 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:24,464 but, I mean, the only person that I really 88 00:04:24,531 --> 00:04:26,166 was attached to was my father. 89 00:04:26,299 --> 00:04:28,869 You know, he's the only one that seemed like the more bad 90 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:31,138 I would do, the more, you know, he liked me, 91 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:33,740 so I wanted somebody to like me. -Mm-hmm. 92 00:04:33,874 --> 00:04:37,177 You said he was a Hells Angel? -No. 93 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:38,912 When I was a kid, I thought he was. 94 00:04:38,979 --> 00:04:42,315 You know, he played the role as one, 95 00:04:42,382 --> 00:04:45,652 but he was just, you know, one of their henchmen or -- 96 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:48,955 or how -- how can you -- Flunky. 97 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:50,257 -Okay. -You know, that's basically -- 98 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:51,458 -Like a hang-around kind of guy? 99 00:04:51,525 --> 00:04:53,059 -Basically. Absolutely. 100 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:00,267 ♪♪ 101 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:01,701 -Who's your godfather? 102 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:04,638 -Tommy Padavick. Tommy Padavick is a Hells Angel. 103 00:05:04,738 --> 00:05:05,939 -He was the president of Hells Angels back at that time. 104 00:05:06,072 --> 00:05:07,507 -Yeah. -Okay. 105 00:05:07,574 --> 00:05:09,342 ♪ 106 00:05:09,476 --> 00:05:12,946 So, when your dad asked you to come along with him 107 00:05:13,046 --> 00:05:15,816 to do murders, did you get anything for it? 108 00:05:15,949 --> 00:05:17,584 -Oh, yeah, I got paid. 109 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:21,788 I got just a smiddling, a pittance of -- of the, 110 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:24,357 you know, whatever he made. -Okay. 111 00:05:24,457 --> 00:05:25,592 -People went to my dad 112 00:05:25,692 --> 00:05:27,828 because they knew my dad wouldn't talk. 113 00:05:27,894 --> 00:05:30,697 That's what drew everybody to my father, okay? 114 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:34,134 Because he was -- he was a true one-percenter, 115 00:05:34,267 --> 00:05:35,902 you know, that... -Right. 116 00:05:36,036 --> 00:05:38,104 -...that the clubs, you know, look for. 117 00:05:44,411 --> 00:05:54,421 ♪ 118 00:05:54,487 --> 00:05:56,623 -Cleveland has as much of an organized crime, 119 00:05:56,723 --> 00:05:59,459 as dramatic of an organized-crime history 120 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:01,061 as Chicago or New York. 121 00:06:01,127 --> 00:06:04,231 And, of course, these guys are all birds of a feather. 122 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:07,234 You know, organized-crime associates, Hells Angels, 123 00:06:07,334 --> 00:06:09,870 these are guys that are into drugs, 124 00:06:09,936 --> 00:06:13,874 their reputation for violence, they're into making money. 125 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:18,144 -Cleveland, as a Hells Angel charter, had a reputation of, 126 00:06:18,245 --> 00:06:20,413 "You don't want to [bleep] with these guys." 127 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:22,549 There was a lot of serious things going on back then. 128 00:06:22,616 --> 00:06:24,751 There was a lot of police corruption. 129 00:06:24,851 --> 00:06:27,420 They were corrupting the court system. 130 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,223 There was a lot of gambling, numbers rackets. 131 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:33,927 It was a very, very dangerous time. 132 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:37,998 The Hells Angels were definitely in the middle of it. 133 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:40,967 -So, in Cleveland, murder was really becoming second nature 134 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:43,503 to the Hells Angels. 135 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:47,908 But their objective is not to bring heat back on the club. 136 00:06:47,974 --> 00:06:51,945 So they began to hire contract killers. 137 00:06:52,045 --> 00:06:55,148 -That, in some cases, was more attractive of an idea 138 00:06:55,215 --> 00:06:57,183 to use an outsider and pay them 139 00:06:57,284 --> 00:06:59,419 than to use their own crew members, 140 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,656 so they would contract with outsiders. 141 00:07:02,789 --> 00:07:05,292 -They're going to recruit meth addicts who are desperate 142 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:08,595 and, you know, sociopaths who are so used to killing, 143 00:07:08,695 --> 00:07:10,063 it doesn't mean anything to them. 144 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:12,098 [ Motorcycle engine starts ] 145 00:07:12,165 --> 00:07:16,303 This is who they're willing to get to do their dirty work. 146 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,738 It's a really easy way for the Hells Angels 147 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:23,276 to stay under the radar, to hide their criminal exploits, 148 00:07:23,343 --> 00:07:26,546 because nobody really traces it back to them. 149 00:07:29,549 --> 00:07:32,886 -Hells Angels were farming out contracts in the late '70s. 150 00:07:33,019 --> 00:07:35,655 Contract killing can become very, very sophisticated. 151 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:37,991 When you're talking about an open contract, 152 00:07:38,058 --> 00:07:40,994 there's no hierarchy associated with that. 153 00:07:41,094 --> 00:07:44,597 The open contract can be picked up essentially by anybody. 154 00:07:44,698 --> 00:07:47,500 They're essentially saying, regardless of how it's done, 155 00:07:47,567 --> 00:07:50,403 get it done, and it doesn't matter who picks it up. 156 00:07:50,503 --> 00:07:52,906 Of course, the individual that picks up an open contract 157 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:55,642 wants to be paid -- through an associate, usually -- 158 00:07:55,742 --> 00:07:58,745 so far down the line that it can never be traced back 159 00:07:58,845 --> 00:08:00,947 to the nucleus of the organization. 160 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:02,949 ♪ 161 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:07,187 -There have been rumors for years that East Coast 162 00:08:07,253 --> 00:08:10,890 Hells Angels, other club members, 163 00:08:11,024 --> 00:08:15,128 have contracted out work for various hits. 164 00:08:15,261 --> 00:08:16,863 True or not? I don't know. 165 00:08:16,963 --> 00:08:18,264 But it certainly was a rumor 166 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:22,102 that circulated in the '70s and the '80s. 167 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:23,236 -Thank you. -Okay? 168 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,238 -Mm-hmm. -Thanks. 169 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:28,174 -My name is Tom Doyle, and I was a detective 170 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:31,878 in the Greater Cleveland area for 39 years. 171 00:08:31,978 --> 00:08:38,351 ♪♪ 172 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:40,587 It's a complex and unique relationship 173 00:08:40,653 --> 00:08:42,655 Donny and I have had over the years. 174 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:46,226 He's written me, and we've been in communication an awful lot, 175 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:49,062 and he told me about how he buried his first bodies 176 00:08:49,162 --> 00:08:51,698 with his father when he was 10 or 11 years old, 177 00:08:51,798 --> 00:08:54,467 and he was told that "If you tell anybody, 178 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:56,636 I will kill you and bury you, too." 179 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:58,571 ♪ 180 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,340 Where they buried the body, 181 00:09:00,473 --> 00:09:02,642 he had to take a bus to school, and he went by that spot. 182 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:04,944 He could see it in the distance, and every day, 183 00:09:05,011 --> 00:09:07,147 it was a reminder that he wanted to say something, 184 00:09:07,247 --> 00:09:11,851 but he couldn't because he would be buried there, too. 185 00:09:11,985 --> 00:09:13,553 When his father gets angry, 186 00:09:13,653 --> 00:09:17,290 his father physically abuses him. 187 00:09:17,424 --> 00:09:20,026 Donny talks about being knocked out by his father 188 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:22,395 when he's like 12 years old and being -- 189 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:27,534 having his face crushed into the gravel on a driveway. 190 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:30,036 Donny talks about how much he hated his father for that, 191 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:31,504 and he talks about an occasion 192 00:09:31,604 --> 00:09:32,839 where he tried to shoot his father 193 00:09:32,939 --> 00:09:35,909 and the gun misfired, because of the abuse. 194 00:09:36,009 --> 00:09:39,345 ♪♪ 195 00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:40,980 Between the ages of 10 and 12, 196 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,883 Donny talks about a bar his father would frequent, 197 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:47,053 and he hated going there 198 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:50,890 because his father would take money from men, 199 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:53,293 and he would have to go into the men's room 200 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:57,197 and orally copulate them. 201 00:09:57,297 --> 00:09:58,498 He didn't want to do it, 202 00:09:58,565 --> 00:10:03,536 but if he didn't, his father would beat him. 203 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:06,306 So, in Donny's mind, 204 00:10:06,406 --> 00:10:12,779 he's all mixed up with love and hate, respect and fear. 205 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:19,486 It was obvious that he was controlled by his father. 206 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:21,221 Donny started telling about a murder 207 00:10:21,321 --> 00:10:25,225 that he and his father had done in Lake County, Indiana, 208 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,427 and it was arranged through the Hells Angels. 209 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,831 ♪ 210 00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:34,200 -My dad knew all kinds of other clubs. 211 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,804 You know, he did things for the Angels against the other clubs, 212 00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:39,305 and I believe this was one of them. 213 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:43,176 This here was -- was a, uh -- 214 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:46,379 This guy died because of the Hells Angels. 215 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:48,748 ♪ 216 00:10:48,848 --> 00:10:52,852 So we get to this guy's house, whose name's Bobby. 217 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:56,956 That's all I know. The guy, Bobby, gives me a gun. 218 00:10:57,056 --> 00:11:00,860 He hands Ted a sawed-off -- a sawed-off shotgun. 219 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,264 Bobby says, "When I say 'knucklehead,' 220 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:05,665 Donny, you shoot." -Mm. 221 00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:08,868 -He said, "Don't shoot until I say 'knucklehead.'" 222 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,403 ♪♪ 223 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:13,973 -Ted was taking contracts to kill these people. 224 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:16,276 They would be fearful and apprehensive 225 00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:18,912 if they would see a person like Ted approaching them. 226 00:11:18,978 --> 00:11:20,580 ♪ 227 00:11:20,713 --> 00:11:23,016 Donny was younger, slight build, 228 00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:25,385 and he would be disarming to approach them. 229 00:11:25,451 --> 00:11:28,621 And that's what happened in this instance in Indiana. 230 00:11:28,721 --> 00:11:30,757 -Going in the guy's garage. 231 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:32,225 So the guy turns around, he's like, 232 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:33,593 "What are you looking for?" 233 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:36,596 That's when dude said, "A knucklehead." 234 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:39,632 I automatically pulled the gun I got in my back pocket, 235 00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:43,202 and he sees me as he's going, but he goes to turn around. 236 00:11:43,303 --> 00:11:45,305 My gun catches him right dead square 237 00:11:45,405 --> 00:11:47,540 in the middle of the chest. 238 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:50,310 I couldn't tell you if Ted fired his shotgun or not. 239 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:54,280 I have no clue because I was emptying my gun into him. 240 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:57,150 And that's all I was concentrating on. 241 00:12:00,286 --> 00:12:01,821 On the way home, 242 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:06,459 Ted hands me $500, and that was that. 243 00:12:06,526 --> 00:12:08,528 ♪ 244 00:12:08,661 --> 00:12:10,330 -According to Donny, they killed the guy 245 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:14,434 because he had shorted some bikers on methamphetamine, 246 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:16,636 and the Hells Angels wanted revenge. 247 00:12:16,703 --> 00:12:18,838 ♪ 248 00:12:18,938 --> 00:12:22,742 -Over the years, I've learned an awful lot about Ted Soke. 249 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:26,346 I believe he was taking contract murders, 250 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:30,383 being paid to go and kill people for the Hells Angels. 251 00:12:30,516 --> 00:12:32,585 ♪ 252 00:12:32,652 --> 00:12:35,421 Ted was a close associate of the Hells Angels. 253 00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:39,025 He would be on their runs. He would be at the clubhouse. 254 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:42,495 He described himself to his then-girlfriend 255 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:44,831 that he was a brother of the Hells Angels. 256 00:12:46,499 --> 00:12:52,872 ♪ 257 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:56,042 -I was at a bar and seeing this guy, 258 00:12:56,142 --> 00:13:01,381 I asked somebody who he was. They said he was Ted Soke. 259 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:05,418 Somehow we ended up having a conversation. 260 00:13:05,518 --> 00:13:08,821 He took me for a ride on his Harley. 261 00:13:08,921 --> 00:13:11,424 I came back to the bar. 262 00:13:11,524 --> 00:13:13,826 People kept telling me, "Stay away from him." 263 00:13:13,893 --> 00:13:15,828 He was bad. 264 00:13:15,895 --> 00:13:20,667 They just said he was always in trouble, in and out of jail. 265 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:25,138 I thought he was a nice-looking guy who said nice things. 266 00:13:25,271 --> 00:13:28,107 Very polite. I didn't see any problems. 267 00:13:28,207 --> 00:13:31,878 I didn't see any crazy warning signs. 268 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:38,251 ♪ 269 00:13:38,384 --> 00:13:40,953 I actually felt sorry for Donny 270 00:13:41,054 --> 00:13:43,156 because his mother was gone already. 271 00:13:43,256 --> 00:13:44,657 By then, she had died. 272 00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:48,461 You know, kid wanted love. 273 00:13:48,528 --> 00:13:51,698 Sometimes Ted seemed like he liked him, 274 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:55,234 and sometimes he would tell him to leave him alone, 275 00:13:55,301 --> 00:13:57,704 get the hell away from him. 276 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,307 Donny just tried and tried to get Ted to like him. 277 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:04,143 Donny would do anything for Ted. 278 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:08,481 -The murder of 32-year-old Karen LaSpina in October 1985. 279 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:10,116 She'd apparently surprised burglars 280 00:14:10,183 --> 00:14:11,584 and was knifed to death. 281 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:20,526 [ Ringing ] 282 00:14:33,005 --> 00:14:35,742 -Good friend of mine, Tom Doyle from Eastlake Police, 283 00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:37,777 and a bunch of fellow Eastlake police officers 284 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:40,413 were at a little bar down the street from where I live. 285 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:41,981 [ Pagers beeping ] 286 00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:43,583 And when I'm sitting there, uh, 287 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:47,220 suddenly everyone's pager in the bar goes off, 288 00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:49,589 all the cops, all at the same time. 289 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:51,824 Tom looked at me, he says, "We got to go," 290 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,861 and they all jumped out of the bar into their cars 291 00:14:54,927 --> 00:14:57,697 and started speeding off, and I followed them. 292 00:14:57,797 --> 00:15:01,768 ♪♪ 293 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,569 I could tell immediately which house it is 294 00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:06,873 because there's cops all over the place. 295 00:15:06,973 --> 00:15:12,945 And I run into Detective Doyle, and he says, "Follow me, John." 296 00:15:13,012 --> 00:15:15,748 ♪ 297 00:15:15,815 --> 00:15:18,284 I have no idea what I'm gonna be seeing, 298 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:22,054 but I follow him, go up these little steps, 299 00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:28,294 and I'm hearing this calm voice counting like 21, 22, 23. 300 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:30,463 I have no idea what they're counting for. 301 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:32,665 And I look off into the living room, 302 00:15:32,732 --> 00:15:34,934 which is at the front of the house, 303 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:37,170 and I'm seeing three cops 304 00:15:37,303 --> 00:15:42,375 kneeled next to this woman lying on her back. 305 00:15:42,508 --> 00:15:45,511 And I noticed there are marks on, like, 306 00:15:45,578 --> 00:15:48,748 a sweater she's wearing, like dashes. 307 00:15:48,815 --> 00:15:51,350 Then I realized they're counting stab wounds. 308 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:59,058 ♪♪ 309 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:01,961 -The murder of Karen LaSpina had a more personal impact 310 00:16:02,094 --> 00:16:04,363 than others have had on me. 311 00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:07,567 It was something that should never happen to a human being. 312 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:09,235 Karen was totally innocent. 313 00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:11,504 Somebody came in, for whatever reason, entered that house -- 314 00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:16,142 we suspected burglary -- and then they butchered her. 315 00:16:16,242 --> 00:16:17,376 This happened in October. 316 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:22,181 By the end of the year, we were coming up empty. 317 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:24,817 We had a composite of a young person 318 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,652 seen running from the scene, 319 00:16:26,752 --> 00:16:28,221 and we published that in the paper, 320 00:16:28,287 --> 00:16:31,257 hoping that we would get something out of that, 321 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:33,492 and we didn't get anything. 322 00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:40,132 -My name is Allen Wayne Filkins Sr., 323 00:16:40,199 --> 00:16:41,968 better known as "Stinky." 324 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:44,504 I'm a lifelong friend of Donny Soke. 325 00:16:44,570 --> 00:16:45,872 Grew up with him. 326 00:16:45,938 --> 00:16:49,175 Spent a lot of time with him in the younger days. 327 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:52,144 I'd say probably second, third time we ever met, 328 00:16:52,211 --> 00:16:54,981 we became what we call today, 329 00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:56,449 a lot of guys that's been in prison, 330 00:16:56,582 --> 00:16:58,818 we'll call each other brothers. 331 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:01,120 Donny's always been, like, a burglar, 332 00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:04,390 to my knowledge, uh, a thief. 333 00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:07,093 He could only have been led into that kind of life with his dad, 334 00:17:07,159 --> 00:17:08,895 Ted Soke. 335 00:17:08,995 --> 00:17:11,364 You know, there's even a rumor that Ted was grooming 336 00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:13,933 Donny from the giddy-up, from child, 337 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,369 to be a stone-cold-blooded killer 338 00:17:16,502 --> 00:17:19,038 and part of the H.A.'s -- Hells Angels. 339 00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:28,114 ♪ 340 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:31,584 I was incarcerated in Lake County Jail 341 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:33,719 and they brought Donny in one night. 342 00:17:33,853 --> 00:17:36,455 Donny had, uh -- had clothes on and had, uh -- 343 00:17:36,522 --> 00:17:39,525 looked -- looked to me like blood on his shoes. 344 00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:44,530 And he made the comment to me, "I [bleep] up, bro, big-time." 345 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:46,732 I said, "What are we talking about?" 346 00:17:46,832 --> 00:17:48,834 He says, "You remember seeing the news earlier, 347 00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:51,504 that lady on there, Karen LaSpina?" 348 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,873 He says, uh, "I might've killed her, bro." 349 00:17:53,973 --> 00:18:03,849 ♪♪ 350 00:18:03,983 --> 00:18:05,618 -The informant's story 351 00:18:05,685 --> 00:18:08,220 was that, at the time of the LaSpina murder, 352 00:18:08,287 --> 00:18:10,590 there was a prisoner who looked like the composite 353 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:13,159 that was the suspect of the murder. 354 00:18:13,292 --> 00:18:17,229 When they saw that drawing, this individual shaved his head 355 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:19,999 and he started tattooing a large spider web across his face. 356 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:22,935 We looked at a photograph of what he looked like 357 00:18:23,069 --> 00:18:24,837 before he started the tattoos and stuff, 358 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:30,142 and he looked similar to the composite that was in the paper. 359 00:18:30,209 --> 00:18:32,578 Then I make some phone calls to the Lake County Jail, 360 00:18:32,712 --> 00:18:34,614 and they knew exactly who it was. 361 00:18:36,582 --> 00:18:39,919 So we made plans to go see him. 362 00:19:05,911 --> 00:19:08,414 He was claiming not to have been involved in the crime. 363 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,227 I was trying to build a relationship with him. 364 00:19:21,327 --> 00:19:24,430 I had the impression that he wanted to tell us the truth 365 00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:26,499 about the LaSpina murder. 366 00:19:26,565 --> 00:19:30,302 But there was some things that we found were truthful 367 00:19:30,403 --> 00:19:32,338 and some things were just not truthful. 368 00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:34,740 ♪ 369 00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:41,580 [ Cassette tapes clattering ] 370 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,948 [ Button clicks ] 371 00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:51,457 He went from, "I know the people 372 00:19:51,557 --> 00:19:54,860 who did the murder," to, probably the third time 373 00:19:54,927 --> 00:19:57,696 or the fourth time, he was willing to place himself there, 374 00:19:57,763 --> 00:19:59,832 but he didn't do the murder. He saw it done. 375 00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:03,102 ♪♪ 376 00:20:23,355 --> 00:20:26,525 -It was interesting because when we saw that his father 377 00:20:26,659 --> 00:20:28,527 was a associate of the Hells Angels, 378 00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:30,663 everybody in the jail knew that. 379 00:20:30,763 --> 00:20:32,732 We suspected it could be for the Hells Angels 380 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:35,734 who wanted it done or to impress them. 381 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:39,705 Ted came to the police department a number of times. 382 00:20:39,772 --> 00:20:41,941 I would take him back to the area in the jail 383 00:20:42,007 --> 00:20:46,045 where the visiting was. 384 00:20:46,178 --> 00:20:49,181 He acted unemotional with Donny. 385 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:53,652 He acted wary with me. 386 00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:57,523 Donny was obviously pleased to see his father, 387 00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:02,795 but Donny seemed nervous with his father's presence. 388 00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:05,464 You could tell there was admiration for him, 389 00:21:05,564 --> 00:21:09,702 but there was no affection shown from Ted to Donny. 390 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:12,338 There was no hugging. There was no handshake. 391 00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:14,273 There was -- There was no "How you doing?" 392 00:21:14,373 --> 00:21:16,308 and, "Everything's okay," and, "We're gonna get you a lawyer." 393 00:21:16,408 --> 00:21:17,776 That type of stuff wasn't happening. 394 00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:19,912 ♪♪ 395 00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,982 -I never even believed Donny killed anybody 396 00:21:23,048 --> 00:21:26,452 or knew anything about a murder. 397 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,087 And, you know, so the story I'm hearing, 398 00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,456 that he may have been involved in the stabbing itself, 399 00:21:30,523 --> 00:21:32,925 you know, that's a lot of stabs for one guy to do, 400 00:21:33,058 --> 00:21:34,527 so kind of does make sense 401 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:37,563 if Donny and Ted both stabbed her. 402 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:47,673 -Says, "Donny, who is so important in your life 403 00:21:47,773 --> 00:21:49,942 that you would lie to protect?" 404 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:55,181 And I'm looking at him, and I say, "It's your father." 405 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:58,617 He erupted like a rocket, coming right up out of the chair. 406 00:21:58,684 --> 00:22:01,320 "My father's a saint. My father's a good man." 407 00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:03,088 I was -- I was sure at that point that -- 408 00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:07,159 Wow, that was -- We were onto something here. 409 00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:09,195 ♪ 410 00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:10,663 So when I'm gathering information on Ted, 411 00:22:10,763 --> 00:22:14,600 I approach his ex-girlfriend. 412 00:22:14,733 --> 00:22:17,703 Marianne was a victim of Ted. 413 00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:20,806 She tells me a number of horrendous things. 414 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:23,375 ♪ 415 00:22:23,475 --> 00:22:28,480 -When I moved in with Ted, it got pretty bad pretty quick. 416 00:22:28,614 --> 00:22:33,319 ♪ 417 00:22:33,452 --> 00:22:38,023 Ted got physical, and then the name-calling. 418 00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:40,159 ♪♪ 419 00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:45,364 Ted had knocked me down the stairs, busted my eardrum. 420 00:22:45,497 --> 00:22:48,200 Always had a black eye. 421 00:22:48,334 --> 00:22:51,937 Um...a busted rib. 422 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:57,776 He beat me so bad, I had blood running out of my nose and ears. 423 00:22:57,843 --> 00:22:59,945 ♪ 424 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:03,182 He raped me and, um... 425 00:23:03,249 --> 00:23:07,219 kept me and the kids in a corner... 426 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:10,656 for a couple days. 427 00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:12,091 And that's when I said I had enough. 428 00:23:12,191 --> 00:23:16,095 He was gonna kill us. He was gonna kill us. 429 00:23:16,161 --> 00:23:19,064 So I knew I had to get out of there. 430 00:23:19,164 --> 00:23:23,736 They tracked him down, arrested him, put him in jail. 431 00:23:28,207 --> 00:23:31,977 During my rape trial, on a recess, 432 00:23:32,077 --> 00:23:36,015 we were watching the news, and the newscasters 433 00:23:36,115 --> 00:23:39,518 were talking about charges being brought against 434 00:23:39,652 --> 00:23:43,222 Ted Soke and his son, Donny Soke, 435 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:48,093 in connection of the Karen LaSpina murders. 436 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:55,334 ♪ 437 00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:23,489 ♪ 438 00:25:23,555 --> 00:25:25,290 -Donny's found guilty, 439 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:30,396 and he's sentenced to 30 to life. 440 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:33,732 -Donny told me the reason he did was because 441 00:25:33,832 --> 00:25:37,136 Ted would killed him on the spot. 442 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:39,204 That he would probably killed him right there. 443 00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:42,174 ♪ 444 00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,176 Because there had been other things that Donny 445 00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:46,145 had done with Ted 446 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:50,549 that Donny did out of fear of dying, is what he told me. 447 00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:53,452 ♪♪ 448 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,753 -Because Donny had backed out 449 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:57,890 from testifying against his father, 450 00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:59,958 the prosecutor makes a strategic decision 451 00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:03,962 to dismiss the charges against Ted. 452 00:26:04,096 --> 00:26:05,964 ♪ 453 00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:09,334 When the prosecutor dismissed the charges, I was crushed. 454 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,738 I know he's involved. I know he did it. 455 00:26:12,838 --> 00:26:15,441 The information we're receiving is somebody wanted her dead, 456 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:19,912 and Ted did it as a contract. I've had several people tell me 457 00:26:20,012 --> 00:26:22,948 how it came through the Hells Angels, 458 00:26:23,048 --> 00:26:26,652 and I said, because I couldn't get Ted for the LaSpina murder, 459 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,821 he's going to answer for the crime in another way." 460 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,856 [ Indistinct talking ] 461 00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:37,963 -Donny had confessed to the murder, 462 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:39,364 and although the prosecutor dismissed 463 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,166 the charges against Ted, 464 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:43,735 I believe that it was a murder-for-hire 465 00:26:43,802 --> 00:26:45,971 and that Ted was being paid to go 466 00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,740 and kill people like Karen LaSpina. 467 00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:54,780 Ted now, at this point, had got himself in prison 468 00:26:54,847 --> 00:26:57,850 for the rape and kidnapping of Marianne. 469 00:26:57,916 --> 00:27:00,519 So we started going to the prisons, 470 00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:02,921 talking to people who were in the same cell blocks 471 00:27:02,988 --> 00:27:04,089 or cellies with him. 472 00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:07,059 ♪ 473 00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:10,829 We learned that Ted talked about the murder, 474 00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:14,900 that he's the one who killed Karen LaSpina. 475 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:17,136 But they also gave us statements about other murders 476 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:20,339 that occurred in other places. 477 00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:22,040 They said that he also killed 478 00:27:22,174 --> 00:27:25,577 The Plain Dealer newspaper reporter in Cleveland. 479 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:28,013 -While both Porter and his wife were stabbed to death, 480 00:27:28,113 --> 00:27:31,083 no murder weapon was found at the scene last night. 481 00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:32,618 No valuables were taken. 482 00:27:32,718 --> 00:27:35,754 There was no sign of a struggle. Not a usual burglary. 483 00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:39,124 But who would want to kill a retired editor and his wife, 484 00:27:39,224 --> 00:27:40,359 and why? 485 00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:42,561 ♪ 486 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,696 -From talking to the various inmates, 487 00:27:44,796 --> 00:27:47,599 we learned that, allegedly, this was done 488 00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:49,535 to silence The Plain Dealer, 489 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:52,237 because of what they were printing, 490 00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:54,239 negative things about the Hells Angels. 491 00:27:54,373 --> 00:28:03,815 ♪ 492 00:28:03,882 --> 00:28:06,018 -There were some stories in The Plain Dealer 493 00:28:06,118 --> 00:28:08,854 covering the Hells Angels trials. 494 00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:10,155 There are any number of them. 495 00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:13,592 ♪ 496 00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:15,360 And then some of them, they didn't have 497 00:28:15,494 --> 00:28:17,162 bylines on them. 498 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,598 That's where it says "by..." certain reporter. 499 00:28:19,731 --> 00:28:21,934 And maybe that's because they were afraid 500 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:25,571 that there would be some kind of retaliation against them. 501 00:28:25,637 --> 00:28:27,739 They realize these people are dangerous. 502 00:28:27,806 --> 00:28:31,343 -In 1981, Butch Crouch turned himself in 503 00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:34,613 and told of the crimes he'd committed with the Hells Angels. 504 00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:05,077 [ Cell doors unlock, open ] 505 00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:09,881 ♪ 506 00:30:14,846 --> 00:30:21,620 ♪ 507 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,657 -39 years ago, in May of 1985, 508 00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:28,126 Ted Soke and his son, Donny, 509 00:30:28,193 --> 00:30:31,730 six months before they killed Karen LaSpina in Eastlake, 510 00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:35,033 killed Philip and Dorothy Porter in that house. 511 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:37,035 ♪ 512 00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:39,371 -It sounded like a burglary that went bad 513 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:42,607 because the burglars didn't realize the couple was home. 514 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:45,610 Just killed them because they were witnesses. 515 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,479 Nobody had made a connection between his work 516 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:52,017 at The Plain Dealer that had anything to do with 517 00:30:52,117 --> 00:30:53,485 the Hells Angels. 518 00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,455 ♪♪ 519 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,596 -Since Donny had been to prison, 520 00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:06,565 he had continually written me. 521 00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:09,000 Sometimes he would write me two letters in a week, 522 00:31:09,134 --> 00:31:11,837 and sometimes I'd get one letter in four months. 523 00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:13,739 But this letter that comes, 524 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:17,409 he's telling me he could help us with other crimes. 525 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:20,178 So we make arrangements to have Donny 526 00:31:20,278 --> 00:31:23,448 brought back from the prison where he's at. 527 00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:24,950 As we're driving back, 528 00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:28,453 Donny told us he wants to help us with the Porter murders. 529 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,689 He wanted to trade his information 530 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,892 for time off of his sentence. 531 00:31:33,992 --> 00:31:41,967 ♪♪ 532 00:31:51,143 --> 00:31:53,278 When Donny's testifying. 533 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,647 Ted's sitting there, watching him. 534 00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,482 It's not a father looking at his son. 535 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,251 He's looking at him with hatred, 536 00:31:59,351 --> 00:32:00,719 trying to intimidate him with his -- 537 00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,955 with his glare. 538 00:32:04,022 --> 00:32:06,892 Donny, in the beginning, was hesitant 539 00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:09,528 and was emotional about testifying. 540 00:32:13,064 --> 00:32:14,399 -Um... 541 00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:17,402 -As the testimony went longer, he got more angry -- 542 00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:18,770 you could see he was angry -- and defiant 543 00:32:18,837 --> 00:32:20,405 and staring back at his father. 544 00:33:14,025 --> 00:33:15,227 The first thing that struck me 545 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,729 when I learned about the Porter murders 546 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,798 was that it was the same day as Donny's birthday, 547 00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:21,600 his 18th birthday. 548 00:33:21,666 --> 00:33:24,002 And I thought, "Wow, what a coincidence." 549 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:51,596 During the course of the trial, 550 00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:53,932 Donny says that his father told him, 551 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,401 "You have to show heart." 552 00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:59,004 According to Donny, Ted takes Mrs. Porter 553 00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:02,207 and hands her to Donny, says, "You have to do her." 554 00:34:02,274 --> 00:34:05,844 It's his 18th birthday. This is a rite of passage. 555 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:41,112 ♪ 556 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:46,518 ♪ 557 00:34:46,584 --> 00:34:49,287 Over the years, Donny has apologized 558 00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:52,290 for the crimes he's committed, said he was sorry, 559 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:56,795 and, at other times, he has claimed we framed him, 560 00:34:56,928 --> 00:35:00,632 his father's an innocent man. 561 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:03,001 I understand that -- I realized he is a manipulator, 562 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:06,237 and he's -- he's a liar. 563 00:35:06,371 --> 00:35:09,174 Although Donny had changed his testimony, 564 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,176 we accumulated a number of inmates 565 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:15,580 that were in prison with Ted who were giving us information. 566 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,284 We used probably 7 or 8 at the trial 567 00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:24,155 to testify against Ted Soke, that he had told them 568 00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:27,158 that he killed the Porters to impress the Hells Angels, 569 00:35:27,225 --> 00:35:29,160 or because the Hells Angels wanted it done. 570 00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:31,529 ♪♪ 571 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,198 The jury voted for death, 572 00:35:33,264 --> 00:35:36,768 and the judge gave him the death penalty. 573 00:35:41,272 --> 00:35:43,942 -50-year-old Ted Soke made that brief statement 574 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:46,644 in court this morning, but it made no difference. 575 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:48,980 -Theodore A. Soke, I hereby sentence you 576 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:55,320 to die in the electric chair on May 17, 1993, 577 00:35:55,387 --> 00:35:56,921 for the brutal and senseless murders 578 00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:58,923 of Philip and Dorothy Porter. 579 00:35:59,858 --> 00:36:04,996 ♪ 580 00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:08,967 -Ted Soke never told us anything other than, 581 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,136 "I have nothing to say to you." 582 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:13,338 But he was bragging to the various inmates 583 00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:15,206 that he did it for the Hells Angels, 584 00:36:15,273 --> 00:36:19,577 and that's what caused him to get convicted. 585 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,846 -In prison, Ted was bragging about how he killed 586 00:36:21,946 --> 00:36:25,850 the Porters to ingratiate himself to the Hells Angels, 587 00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:27,519 and he thought this might help him 588 00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:32,357 get -- become a member of the Hells Angels. 589 00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:34,492 -There are people that go to extreme lengths 590 00:36:34,592 --> 00:36:37,362 to impress the Hells Angels, which you have to consider 591 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:39,197 when you're looking at someone like that 592 00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:42,367 for a possible membership is if they're doing it for you, 593 00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:44,069 they're gonna do it eventually for the public, 594 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,937 and that becomes a liability. 595 00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:49,374 So you have to be very careful as you vet these guys, 596 00:36:49,441 --> 00:36:50,608 if you will. 597 00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:53,244 Are there any measures that, uh, 598 00:36:53,344 --> 00:36:56,714 weed out complete sociopaths, psychopaths, 599 00:36:56,848 --> 00:37:00,051 uh, whatever you want to call them? 600 00:37:00,151 --> 00:37:03,188 Perhaps they disappear. 601 00:37:03,321 --> 00:37:10,995 ♪ 602 00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:12,464 -Ted was never coming out of prison. 603 00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:14,432 He was going to die there. 604 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:16,968 Found out later that when Ted was in prison, 605 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:19,804 the prison officials knew from talking to inmates 606 00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:23,208 that there was a contract for Donny's life put out by Ted. 607 00:37:30,548 --> 00:37:32,350 -Ted was upset that Donny had testified, 608 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:34,919 and rather than what a normal parent would do 609 00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:36,354 if you're upset with a child, 610 00:37:36,454 --> 00:37:39,657 Ted took a contract for his son, and he wanted him killed. 611 00:37:39,791 --> 00:37:42,594 ♪ 612 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:45,063 Any inmate that wanted to could carry out the contract 613 00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:48,566 and kill Donny, and there would be favors, 614 00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:53,505 rewards, coming from Ted through the Hells Angels. 615 00:37:53,638 --> 00:37:55,240 The typical way is to be stabbed to death, 616 00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:57,675 a shiv, or to be beat to death, 617 00:37:57,809 --> 00:38:00,145 have some type of weapon and beat him to death. 618 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,447 -When we got off the, uh... -The Interstate? 619 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:05,950 -...of the Interstate... 620 00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:09,487 -Well, Donny's missing part of his hand from being stabbed 621 00:38:09,587 --> 00:38:11,189 and fighting off people with knives. 622 00:38:11,322 --> 00:38:12,590 He's been stabbed other times. 623 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,626 I know his jaw has been broken about 7 or 8 times. 624 00:38:14,759 --> 00:38:21,299 ♪ 625 00:38:21,432 --> 00:38:23,401 -My daughter called me and said, "Guess what. 626 00:38:23,501 --> 00:38:25,236 I got a great birthday gift for you. 627 00:38:25,336 --> 00:38:27,272 Ted's dead." 628 00:38:27,405 --> 00:38:29,707 I was fine about it. 629 00:38:29,841 --> 00:38:33,645 He did a lot of damage to a lot of people. 630 00:38:33,711 --> 00:38:35,747 Innocent people that... 631 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,417 ♪ 632 00:38:39,551 --> 00:38:42,153 He just hurt a lot of people. 633 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:46,958 ♪ 634 00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:49,794 -Within a week of Ted dying, 635 00:38:49,894 --> 00:38:52,997 Donny had gotten ahold of me by telephone 636 00:38:53,064 --> 00:38:56,467 and expressed sorrow that his father died. 637 00:38:56,601 --> 00:38:59,370 At the same time, in the same conversation, 638 00:38:59,470 --> 00:39:00,972 he was glad he was dead. 639 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:03,608 Again, there's a dichotomy there 640 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,844 that's -- that's hard to understand. 641 00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:36,040 How could anybody do this with their children? 642 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:37,609 We hurt enough people by -- 643 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:40,712 by just our thoughtlessness and misfortune. 644 00:39:40,845 --> 00:39:43,014 That you would go do this on purpose to your child, 645 00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:44,249 how could you do this? 646 00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:48,019 ♪ 647 00:39:48,152 --> 00:39:50,288 He hates what his father did, and he -- 648 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:53,024 He's said, at times, "I hate my father," 649 00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:56,160 but there's still that -- that thing there. 650 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,230 ♪ 651 00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:01,099 -Me and Donny had numerous talks when we was 652 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:04,002 in Eastlake jail together. Uh... 653 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:05,203 He said one of the things 654 00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:08,006 he regrets is he never killed his dad. 655 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:10,441 Said he always wanted to. 656 00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:12,677 He said, you know, 657 00:40:12,777 --> 00:40:14,646 "Now that I don't ever get the chance to do that," 658 00:40:14,712 --> 00:40:16,114 he says, "It hurts." 659 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,716 He said, "'Cause I was gonna kill that son of a [bleep]" 660 00:40:18,783 --> 00:40:21,085 and I can see why. 661 00:40:21,185 --> 00:40:23,288 -Yeah, my dad groomed me. -Yeah. 662 00:40:23,388 --> 00:40:25,790 -That's what I was told by my -- 663 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,826 I talked to a psychiatrist. -Right. 664 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,329 -And he was grooming me. -Yeah. 665 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,065 -I believe he was grooming me for whatever. 666 00:40:34,198 --> 00:40:35,800 I had no clue. -Mm-hmm. 667 00:40:35,867 --> 00:40:37,635 -You know? -Okay. 668 00:40:37,769 --> 00:40:39,270 -Well, to kill people. -Right. 669 00:40:39,404 --> 00:40:41,306 ♪ 670 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,042 -So many times in Donny's young life, 671 00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,711 if somebody would have stepped up and done the right thing, 672 00:40:46,844 --> 00:40:49,147 he would not be in prison. 673 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,882 And that's not the shame of it. 674 00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:52,950 The shame of it is, other people would be alive. 675 00:40:53,051 --> 00:40:55,153 ♪♪ 676 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,555 -I'm not lying about nothing else no more. 677 00:40:57,655 --> 00:41:00,191 Okay? So it's time to get the truth out, 678 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:02,060 let people rest, you know? 679 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:04,529 Let the families of these people, 680 00:41:04,629 --> 00:41:06,397 you know, rest, so... -Mm-hmm. 681 00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:11,803 -Everything, rumors, and, you know, 682 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:15,106 Ted Soke being involved, it kind of leads one to think 683 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,442 the H.A.'s are behind these hits. 684 00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:19,444 ♪♪ 685 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:20,745 Donny tells me he was -- 686 00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:22,313 he took these contract killings out. 687 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:24,949 He knew -- he knew somebody higher up. 688 00:41:25,083 --> 00:41:26,718 He didn't say where. 689 00:41:29,187 --> 00:41:31,089 It broke his heart not to tell me back in the day, 690 00:41:31,189 --> 00:41:32,790 but he could never tell me because it would have led 691 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:35,526 to his death, him being killed. 692 00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:38,363 ♪♪ 693 00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:40,565 -Ted and Donny were being paid to go 694 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:43,668 and kill people for the Hells Angels. 695 00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:45,603 If they weren't directly for the Hells Angels, 696 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:49,807 the murders were arranged through the Hells Angels. 697 00:41:49,874 --> 00:41:53,878 -So many contract murders go unsolved for many, many years 698 00:41:53,945 --> 00:41:58,516 because there isn't any direct link back to the Hells Angels. 699 00:41:58,649 --> 00:42:01,219 There were no repercussions for it. 700 00:42:09,427 --> 00:42:11,596 ♪ 701 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:14,232 -Don Soke's a cold -- stone-cold-blooded killer, 702 00:42:14,298 --> 00:42:17,668 could do that to females, old people. 703 00:42:17,802 --> 00:42:20,571 He's definitely where he needs to be. 704 00:42:20,671 --> 00:42:24,375 And that's -- I love him. I love him to death, but... 705 00:42:24,475 --> 00:42:25,643 some things you just don't do, 706 00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:29,514 or, if you do, you pay the price. 707 00:42:31,783 --> 00:42:34,952 -I said to him at that point, I said, "Donny, you're never 708 00:42:35,019 --> 00:42:36,687 coming out of prison." 709 00:42:36,788 --> 00:42:38,489 And that's when he cried. 710 00:42:38,589 --> 00:42:39,991 And I got up, and I walked around, and I'm holding him. 711 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:41,726 I put it -- he's leaning against my side, 712 00:42:41,826 --> 00:42:46,431 and I got my arm around him, and, uh... 713 00:42:46,497 --> 00:42:49,967 He said, "I wished -- I wish you'd have been my father." 714 00:42:50,034 --> 00:42:57,175 So it's hard not to feel something kindly towards him. 715 00:42:59,510 --> 00:43:03,881 Yeah, I think that he didn't have a chance, 716 00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:06,918 but at some point, you're responsible to walk away. 717 00:43:06,984 --> 00:43:16,027 ♪ 55126

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