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PAT MATTER: You know,
there's something
about that patch,
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that death head patch.
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You wanted to be a Hells Angel.
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Pat Matter, he ran
the state of Minnesota
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with an iron glove.
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PAT: I mean,
if I was surrounded
by other people,
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I'm going to go out there
and try to (BLEEP) make sure
they think I'm dangerous.
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Never in a million years
did I think I'd just pack up
and move into his house,
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but I did.
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He was the biggest
organized crime figure
that I'd ever seen.
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I was making $3 million a year
selling methamphetamine,
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but there were other rivals
that wanted to have me gone.
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I could have
got killed real easy.
Let's put it that way.
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It started a war.
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When I say war, I'm talking
about people dying.
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Our end goal is to get Pat
to cooperate.
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It was a really hard decision,
but I chose my family.
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I have never told my life story
on camera before.
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This is the first time.
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MAN: Over and over,
they say they are not criminals,
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they're rebels,
rebelling against a society
for which they have no respect.
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We never gave a (BLEEP)
about what anybody else thought.
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We're mostly a bunch
of happy-go-lucky guys
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trying to make it in this world,
you know.
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KERRI KRYSKO: They're misfits,
they're outlaws.
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And they defy
the laws of attraction.
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I don't know,
I idolize 'em, I adore 'em.
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They're my whole life.
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Angels forever, forever Angels.
Speaks for itself.
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The Hells Angels are not
a criminal organization.
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Why don't you people go home?
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GEORGE CHRISTIE:
It's an organization
with criminals in it.
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The Hells Angels run
a massive propaganda scheme.
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And the unknowing gulped down
that Hells Angels Kool-Aid.
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Everybody just cool out.
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Hells Angels, everybody.
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JAY DOBYNS: That is all
designed to hide murder, rape,
drug trafficking,
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gun running,
extortion, assault, arson.
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I'm not trying
to glorify my life,
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but I'm certainly
not gonna apologize for it.
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I'm doing extreme stuff.
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-For what?
-I'm telling it the way
it really happened.
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I never thought I'd be talking
openly about this stuff.
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-INTERVIEWER:
Are you ready for this?
-I'm ready.
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My name's Pat Matter,
and I was the president
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of Minneapolis
Hells Angels for 21 years.
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People don't understand
belonging to an organization
like the Hells Angels.
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I mean, there's a bond there.
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It's your life.
I mean, that was my whole life.
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My mom and dad
divorced in the '50s.
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Uh, I lived
in Fort Dodge, Iowa,
with my mother,
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but, uh,
my mother, uh, left me,
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and, uh, I had to quit school
in the seventh grade.
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Just, kind of,
basically raised myself.
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REX LEE: Pat and I both grew up
on the wrong side
of the tracks.
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We grew up tough.
Nobody cared.
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And it leads into
the whole outlaw thing,
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just happens, you know.
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You don't plan on that.
It just happens.
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PAT: I went around
with some friends
there in Fort Dodge
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that, uh, were bikers.
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So they took me in,
and, uh, that's how I ended up
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really, uh,
loving the club thing.
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And if you're in a club,
you always want to move up.
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They had a club
called the Grim Reapers.
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The club, they knew
I would stand behind them.
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I was a fighter.
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(CLAMORING)
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I was working at a place
called R&M Manufacturing.
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And, uh, I was dating a girl
by the name of Leslie.
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And she had
turned me onto some meth.
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And the feeling
I got off of it...
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I mean, like, the first time,
I didn't go to sleep.
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If you drink beer,
you can drink twice as much.
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If you're partying,
you can have
a good time all night.
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It gave me a lot of energy,
and I thought,
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"Man, you know what?
This is good stuff.
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"A guy can make
some money with that"
because I worked night shift.
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And all the guys,
I start selling them
just small amounts.
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By the time
payday rolled around,
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they was giving me
most of their check.
(CHUCKLES)
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I was diming it up.
Starting out with a gram
that cost me $25.
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And by the time the end
of the week rolled around,
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I would get $400 in return.
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$400 was a big thing for me.
Back in that day,
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it was a lot of money.
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Fort Dodge was kind of
a rough, tough town,
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and drinking and fighting
went hand in hand.
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Uh, it was crazy.
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One night, Rick,
my best friend, and I
were out bar hopping.
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When we come up
to a bar named Crinnegan's,
some guys were walking out.
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They had guns.
They pulled them
out immediately,
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as soon as they seen
me and Rick.
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It was just so fast.
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Rick got hit.
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I kind of grabbed him.
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My hand actually
went into the wound.
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He was dead then
because it went
right through the heart.
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I, uh, felt
pretty bad about that.
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You know, it took me
a while to get over it.
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But it just made me want to be
a Grim Reaper that much more
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because Rick gave
his life for it.
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And he believed
in brotherhood,
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and he was there
because of that.
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I doubled down on the club.
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And I moved to Minneapolis
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and become the president
of the Grim Reapers.
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But I wanted to go further.
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I met a Hells Angel
that was just got out
of prison.
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His name was Gramps,
Roger Sheehan.
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He sold methamphetamine to me.
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We become pretty good friends.
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And not only that,
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he really wanted me
to be a Hells Angel.
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And I thought about it.
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And the Hells Angels
were the club.
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I want to be just like that.
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I said,
that's where I'm going.
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It took a year to patch over.
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We wasn't members yet,
but we was being brought up
for members.
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KERRIE DROBAN: They've got
this whole system,
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whereby if you're
prospecting for the club,
they have a number of tests.
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And so some of those tests
include ingesting drugs,
you know,
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because a law
enforcement officer
is not going to ingest drugs.
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And some of those tests
involved throwing women
at prospects.
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PAT: Thunder was the president
of the North Carolina chapter.
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And, uh, he, uh,
called one night and said,
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"Pat, I want you
to go to the club
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"and, uh, pick up,
uh, my girl
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"and, uh, bring her back
and then call me."
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So I brought her back,
and he said,
"You got her there now?"
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I said, "Yeah." He said,
"Now punch her in the
(BLEEP) mouth for me."
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So I punched her
in the mouth.
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And then he said,
"Now, (BLEEP) her."
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Well, I had to
follow through on that, too.
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DROBAN: The Hells Angels
are notorious misogynists.
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Women, you know,
be crass, are passed around
like bike parts.
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Certain groups
will call them pass arounds.
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They're sheep.
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They're there to service
the club's agenda.
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They are essentially objects.
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It made me stop and think
"What did I get into?"
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I thought, "God," you know.
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Uh, I can't back up.
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Or otherwise
I wasn't gonna be a Hells Angel,
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and I wasn't gonna
stop that for nothing.
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PAT: We became Hells Angels
in September 18th, 1982.
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I mean, we were so happy.
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I can't even
tell you how I felt.
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I'll never forget it
as long as I live.
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When I opened up
the charter in '82,
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it also opened up opportunities
selling methamphetamine.
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Hells Angels
don't burn people on drugs.
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You know what,
they just don't.
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It's bad business.
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So during that time,
business started to expand.
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In the '70s, methamphetamine,
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no matter what
you got caught with,
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it was only
a five-year sentence.
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With Reagan in office,
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it went from a class B drug
to a class A.
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Well, the difference in that is
it could be 25 years,
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could be life.
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As time went on,
you had to get smarter
because times were changing.
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I, uh, had one incident
where I went down
in Charlotte, North Carolina,
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and a friend of mine
named Billy West,
a ballsy guy, you know,
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and he had what he called
a booster vest with...
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They had a sew in pocket
all the way around his...
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I said, "Well, how are
we going to get it back?"
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He said,
"We're going to fly it back."
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Three pounds were on
my buddy Billy West's vest.
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And I thought, "Well, (BLEEP).
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"Well, I'm going to go
to jail with him anyways."
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We, uh, grabbed a plane
and flew back to Minnesota.
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We got away with that,
and I look back,
and I laugh at it.
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Uh, but it wouldn't have been
too funny if I got caught.
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So I established a way
of getting it to Minnesota,
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where I didn't even
have to leave the state.
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I had it flown in
by a personal pilot.
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And after I picked up the dope,
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got it
where I wanted to put it,
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I went back with the money.
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It was very smooth.
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He ran the state of Minnesota
with an iron glove.
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A lot of clubs stayed out
of the state of Minnesota
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because they know he was
a no (BLEEP) around guy.
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He was a mood swing guy,
you know?
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I remember one time,
uh, we were in a bathroom.
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They had a little bag of speed.
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And they're taking little
bumps off of it and (BLEEP).
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And I didn't do it.
I've never done it.
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Pat walks over,
and he pokes a knife
in the bag and goes,
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"Here, sniff this,"
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you know,
puts it up to my face.
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I turn my head. I said,
"I don't want to," you know?
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And he says, "Hey, do this
or I swear to God,
I'll stab you."
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I said, "(BLEEP) it. Stab me."
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He just... (SNIFFS)
He just sniffed it up.
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And then he looked
at me and he goes,
"You know what, Charlie?
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"Are you sure you don't work
for the police?"
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PAT: When you're
dealing methamphetamine,
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naturally, you're always
looking over your shoulder.
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But I had a circle
that was so tight,
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and it was all bikers,
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that I never had
to deal with John Q. Citizen.
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It was somebody I knew
and I trusted.
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So I was kind of buried
in there like a tick.
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I did it relatively fast,
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from $400 a week
to probably $3 million a year
selling methamphetamine.
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I never had no fear
of nothing at the time.
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I don't know why.
That's why
I was good at it.
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Being a Hells Angel,
I went through two marriages.
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I mean, I gave up so much.
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I lost track of what I was
supposed to be doing at home.
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TRISH MATTER: I was working
at a little restaurant,
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and I was a waitress there.
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Then one day, in walks Pat.
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And they're all like,
"He wants to date you."
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And I said,
"He's not my type."
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PAT: I would come
to find out her name was Trish,
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and I wasn't going to give up.
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TRISH: I think
he came in every day,
like, that whole week.
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That was
right around my birthday,
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and started singing
Happy Birthday to me.
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I could not sing
a (BLEEP) lick.
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I, uh, broke out
happy birth... you know,
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and I sang that
with everybody looking at me
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"Would you please
shut the (BLEEP) up?"
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TRISH: One day,
he comes in and he has these
two tickets to Hawaii.
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I said,
"Are you going on a trip?"
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And he's like,
"If you'll go with me."
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And a week later,
we were in Hawaii.
(CHUCKLES)
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And had a blast.
234
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It also could have
been the thing
that could have ruined it,
235
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uh, because, ironically,
while I was in Hawaii,
236
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where I stored my drugs
got raided,
237
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and I had to come home
a week early.
238
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And I didn't know if Trish
was gonna put up with that.
239
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And when we got back,
uh, I thought she'd be gone.
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She stuck it out.
241
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TRISH: Never in
a million years did I think
242
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I'd just pack up
and go to Hawaii
243
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or pack up
and move into his house,
244
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but I did.
245
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So I'm going, "Well, I guess
we're kind of a couple."
246
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He was, kind of,
tinkering around,
247
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building bikes
out of the garage,
248
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and I would cook for the guys.
249
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And we always had
somebody over.
250
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All of a sudden,
one day, he takes me
in this old building,
251
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and he's like,
"I'm thinking of renting this
and making a bike shop."
252
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Anything illegal or whatever,
any kind of a dealing
he was doing,
253
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he made sure I, like,
never knew anything.
254
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I mean, I'm not dumb.
255
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I suspected. I... It wasn't...
It wasn't hard to figure out.
256
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REPORTER: The Outlaws
are one of the nation's
largest motorcycle gangs.
257
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Their violence
now seems directed
258
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towards members
of rival motorcycle gangs,
259
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what investigators
believe is a war
to control drug markets.
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PAT: Uh, living
the lifestyle I did,
261
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there were other rivals that,
uh, wanted to have me, uh, gone.
262
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ANNOUNCER: Pat Matter
is the most consistent
pro stock racer
263
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in the country right now,
264
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and he is on
the starting line.
265
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In the '90s,
I started drag racing,
266
00:18:24,403 --> 00:18:26,906
so I ran into
the Outlaws everywhere.
267
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REPORTER: These are members
of the Outlaws motorcycle gang.
268
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The Outlaws are
one of the nation's
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largest motorcycle gangs
and one of the most violent.
270
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The Outlaws are believed
to make large profits
from drugs.
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MAN: Yeah!
272
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PAT: The Outlaws
are another motorcycle club,
273
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uh, that the Hells Angels
don't get along with.
274
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And it's something that
probably will never end
275
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because, uh, of membership
being so stubborn on both parts.
276
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When I was in Georgia,
they surrounded me.
277
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And I told them, I said,
"Hey, look, I'm going to be
at these racetracks.
278
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"they're very important to me.
And the racetracks
ought to be neutral."
279
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TRISH: We pretty much
did everything together.
280
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And once he started racing,
we went to all of the races.
281
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I knew the Outlaws
were a rival gang.
282
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I won't say that
I didn't feel that I was,
283
00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:34,840
like, scared of the danger
or whatever.
284
00:19:34,907 --> 00:19:39,145
But I always knew
when there was
something wrong
285
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because he was always
a little bit stressed.
286
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PAT: The next race
was in Milwaukee.
287
00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:49,789
And, uh,
there's the first time
288
00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:52,158
I ever met their leader,
Taco Bowman.
289
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He was in charge
of the whole Outlaw club.
290
00:19:59,498 --> 00:20:03,002
And he, uh, didn't like me
racing in Milwaukee,
291
00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:06,972
so he showed up at this motel
just before we went
to the track.
292
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The Outlaws come in,
about 25 to 30,
293
00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:19,185
and the first thing
that comes in is a Lincoln.
294
00:20:19,185 --> 00:20:22,388
And they pull over,
and, uh, they pull out
the MAC-10.
295
00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:23,989
They sit on top
of the roof of the car.
296
00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,360
My guys
were on the second floor
297
00:20:28,427 --> 00:20:30,196
with the windows open
and with their guns.
298
00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:36,802
And Taco said
that I could not race
with my patch on.
299
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:43,609
He said,
"Not only was this our charter,
it's our living room,
300
00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:45,911
"and you're going
to be out here racing
with your patch on?
301
00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,313
"No, no,
it ain't gonna happen."
302
00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:51,984
And I told him I'm going
to race with my patch.
303
00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:55,588
And, uh, he said,
"Well, if you decide to race
without it, I'll see you there.
304
00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:58,657
"If you're going
to race with your patch,
we're gonna have a problem."
305
00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:00,326
So they packed up and left.
306
00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:05,698
And at that point, Kevin Cleary,
the East Coast president,
307
00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:08,334
he didn't think
it was a smart idea,
308
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,469
and he knew I was a bull head.
309
00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:12,972
Went in and called Sonny Barger
and said,
310
00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:15,074
"Sonny would like to
talk to you on the phone."
311
00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:17,543
And he says,
"Man, don't race there."
312
00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:19,945
He said, "You know what?
Don't get killed just because,
313
00:21:20,045 --> 00:21:22,648
"you know, you're not
thinking this over real well."
314
00:21:22,715 --> 00:21:23,883
And he talked me down.
315
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,284
And, uh, you know what?
316
00:21:25,351 --> 00:21:26,919
I wouldn't be here today
317
00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:29,522
if Sonny wouldn't have
talked to me on the phone.
318
00:21:29,588 --> 00:21:32,658
That confrontation with Taco,
uh, didn't end there.
319
00:21:42,434 --> 00:21:43,736
PEEWEE:
Now, the Hells Henchmen
320
00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:47,473
were in Rockford, Illinois,
South Bend, Indiana,
321
00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:51,010
and four chapters of them
in Chicago area.
322
00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:52,344
They're a big club.
323
00:21:52,444 --> 00:21:54,880
Pat was the one that went down
and talked to 'em,
324
00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:57,449
and they all decided,
"Hey, we want to be
Hells Angels."
325
00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:01,954
PAT: They wanted
to be Hells Angels.
326
00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,722
I figured
they should have that chance.
327
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:10,563
And as soon as the Outlaws
got wind of that,
that really pissed them off
328
00:22:10,629 --> 00:22:14,099
because, uh,
it was in Chicago,
their home charter.
329
00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:19,438
Outlaws didn't want
another major club,
330
00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:22,474
especially the Hells Angels,
(BLEEP) in Chicago.
331
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,948
CHRIS OMODT:
Pat Matter coming down there
and trying to patch over
332
00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:31,717
the Hells Henchmen
to Hells Angels,
333
00:22:31,784 --> 00:22:34,687
that's about
as big as an insult
as you can get.
334
00:22:50,436 --> 00:22:53,272
PAT: A guy that was
buying a bike from me
335
00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,007
wanted me to ride
in his new Lincoln,
336
00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:57,076
and he talked me
out of driving my pickup.
337
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,080
We were about three blocks
from the shop,
338
00:23:02,514 --> 00:23:05,351
and we hear
this loud explosion.
339
00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:16,829
It was my truck,
and, uh, it was C-4
encased in a steel 9x6
340
00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:19,865
with a mercury-activated switch
with aluminum on the top,
341
00:23:19,865 --> 00:23:21,433
so the blast
would have been directed
342
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,935
straight up
under the driver's seat.
343
00:23:27,106 --> 00:23:28,407
I could've got killed
real easy.
344
00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:29,708
Let's put it that way.
345
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:36,015
OMODT: A bomb
going off in Minneapolis,
I had never heard of it.
346
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,050
It raises the hair
on the back of your neck.
347
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:45,024
PAT: I knew it was the Outlaws
and I knew it was Taco.
348
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,559
Uh, it was pretty obvious.
349
00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:51,030
Law enforcement asked me,
350
00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:53,232
I said,
"Well, that's for you
to determine.
351
00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:54,600
"I really don't know."
352
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,835
These crimes
are not easy to solve.
353
00:23:56,902 --> 00:23:58,470
It's a secret society.
354
00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:01,473
And trying to break through
that secret society
is extremely difficult.
355
00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:08,480
Pretty much all law enforcement
at that time was put
on high alert, saying,
356
00:24:08,547 --> 00:24:10,749
"Be aware of what's going on
between these two gangs."
357
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,958
When the bomb went off,
it didn't deter me
wanting to be a Hells Angel.
358
00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:21,060
It just made me want
to dig in more, you know.
359
00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:26,799
OMODT:
After Pat's truck got bombed,
360
00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:30,336
law enforcement knew
there was going to be payback.
361
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:48,120
LEE: Well, this bomb
on Pat's vehicle,
362
00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:50,556
any kind of
attack like that
363
00:24:50,622 --> 00:24:53,425
from one
motorcycle club to another,
364
00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,427
it has to be retaliated
in some way, shape...
365
00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,730
It just has to be.
You can't let that go.
366
00:24:57,796 --> 00:24:59,898
You know,
when this bomb went off,
367
00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:05,170
that put me in a position
I, I really never wanted
to be in.
368
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:08,073
Now I gotta do something.
369
00:25:08,073 --> 00:25:10,275
I mean,
something had to happen.
370
00:25:13,946 --> 00:25:18,584
There was
a tattoo parlor in Milwaukee
that one of the Outlaws owned,
371
00:25:18,584 --> 00:25:21,587
and I wanted to send them
the message loud and clear.
372
00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:22,955
Hey, we're going to fight back.
373
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:27,359
PeeWee at that time
was a prospect up here.
374
00:25:27,426 --> 00:25:31,997
And, uh, what better way to
check out his, uh, capabilities?
375
00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:35,200
(EXPLOSION)
376
00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:38,270
No, Pat...
377
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,606
Pat never asked me
to go bomb anything.
378
00:25:53,452 --> 00:25:55,721
DROBAN: Biker gangs
got into using bombs
379
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,590
because they made a statement.
380
00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:01,427
You know, it was also
very hard to track it back.
381
00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:02,528
That was pretty impossible.
382
00:26:02,594 --> 00:26:04,363
And so it really
made law enforcement,
383
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:05,497
sort of, you know,
run in circles,
384
00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:07,800
trying to figure out
who was actually doing this.
385
00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:35,027
My name is Wolf,
and I was a member
386
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,463
of the Outlaws
Midwest chapter.
387
00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:48,200
The Outlaws, they all knew
who everybody was in the game.
388
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,838
And when I say you're at
a high risk of danger...
389
00:27:53,872 --> 00:27:55,874
Somebody like Monte.
390
00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:57,376
He was a Hells Henchmen,
391
00:27:57,442 --> 00:28:00,012
and he owned this
badass motorcycle shop.
392
00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:03,148
And he was there every day,
9:00 to 5:00.
393
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,164
(WOLF SPEAKING)
394
00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,682
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
395
00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,559
PAT: That night,
I was at the clubhouse
and got a phone call.
396
00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:23,328
And on the other end
of the line, the guy says,
397
00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:26,164
"Uh, how many members
does it take to have a charter?
398
00:29:26,231 --> 00:29:29,034
"Six. Well, you're
one short in Rockford."
399
00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:30,435
And then he hung up.
400
00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:33,105
I don't know who it was,
but it definitely was
one of the Outlaws.
401
00:29:34,906 --> 00:29:35,874
(WOLF SPEAKING)
402
00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:53,125
It was pretty sad, you know.
403
00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:57,929
Monte was
a very, very well liked
and respected, uh, gentleman.
404
00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:07,873
Now the war with the Outlaws
is escalating,
405
00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:09,641
and they made
another move again.
406
00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,619
PEEWEE: The Hells Henchmen
clubhouse in, uh, Chicago.
407
00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,621
We were all there partying.
408
00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:24,589
And then we left
to go hit some bars
409
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,158
so the place
was actually empty.
410
00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:27,592
(EXPLOSION)
411
00:30:29,027 --> 00:30:30,629
(OVERLAPPING CHATTER)
412
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,002
REPORTER: Pieces of the
destroyed Ford Taurus
413
00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,771
are visible more than
two blocks from the explosion.
414
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:43,308
In between
are shattered windows,
burned car parts
415
00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:45,677
and holes blasted
through nearby buildings.
416
00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:48,113
PEEWEE: It was a big bomb.
417
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,348
It was, like, the third
in the United States' history.
418
00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:51,850
Oklahoma being one
419
00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:54,152
and the World Trade Center
being two
420
00:30:54,219 --> 00:30:57,756
and (SCOFFS) Grand Avenue
clubhouse being three.
421
00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:03,161
It's weird, bro.
It's just like
422
00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:04,996
normal people would probably
just get up and go,
423
00:31:06,131 --> 00:31:08,300
"I'm done with this (BLEEP)."
424
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,402
Just keep going on
to another day, man,
I don't know.
425
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:11,536
I never thought about that.
426
00:31:11,603 --> 00:31:13,038
I never, ever said
"I'm gonna quit this."
427
00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:19,144
PAT: I don't know
what there is about me,
428
00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:22,047
but, uh, I mean,
if I was surrounded
by other people,
429
00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:25,984
I'm going to go out there
and try to (BLEEP) make sure
they think I'm dangerous.
430
00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:27,753
And you know what?
I didn't care.
431
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,725
I don't know
what's different about me,
but I never feared that stuff.
432
00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:39,464
The Hells Angels never thought
about backing out.
433
00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,369
And the Hells Henchmen
weathered through it.
434
00:31:44,436 --> 00:31:47,472
I mean, you've got
members being killed,
they're being stalked.
435
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:51,176
But they stuck it out.
436
00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:55,147
And they knew
they was being scrutinized
for trying to be Hells Angels.
437
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:59,751
And it was
brought up for patch
in December 5th, 1994.
438
00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,756
And they was
voted in unanimously
by every charter.
439
00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,763
OMODT: The war's
been going back and forth.
440
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:15,467
You've got
the killing of members,
you've got the bombing.
441
00:32:15,467 --> 00:32:18,270
There's a lot of pressure
to get this thing solved
or stopped.
442
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,013
PAT: It is a game
of cat and mouse, you know.
443
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,817
I was under surveillance
by law enforcement
for what I was doing.
444
00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:36,922
And to add to the equation,
Trish and I just had
a new baby boy.
445
00:32:36,988 --> 00:32:40,325
And, uh, I had to think about
what I was getting into
and what I was doing,
446
00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,027
but I wasn't gonna
quit in the middle.
447
00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:47,065
Gotta remember,
Hells Angels is number one.
448
00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:48,567
The family comes second.
449
00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:01,813
OMODT: Our special
operations detail at that time
450
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,049
started an active
investigation on Pat.
451
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:11,156
There was a high rise
across the interstate
from their clubhouse,
452
00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:14,659
and we were able to get
a room in that high rise
near the top floor,
453
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,028
and we had cameras up there
where we would surveil them.
454
00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:22,167
If you're gonna do
a good case,
455
00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:24,169
you better know
who you're going after.
456
00:33:24,236 --> 00:33:26,705
With Pat, I studied
everything I could on him.
457
00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:33,411
And we all
suspected him of dealing drugs,
particularly methamphetamine.
458
00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,915
But Pat was
a really good drug dealer.
459
00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:38,350
He flew below the radar.
460
00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,357
PAT: The authorities
were always watching us.
461
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,326
We would always
come out of the clubhouse,
462
00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:49,995
if you could
see them or not,
463
00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:52,530
we'd always
give them the finger,
you know, like, (BLEEP) you.
464
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,202
They'd look up,
and you see them
going like this.
465
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:59,437
We laughed about it.
I'm sure they laughed
about it, too,
466
00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:00,672
because they know
they're being surveilled.
467
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:03,241
But, uh, yeah,
we got a kick out of that.
468
00:34:03,308 --> 00:34:05,644
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
469
00:34:16,588 --> 00:34:21,359
We got an unexpected
breakthrough in 1997
470
00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:24,396
after learning of
a couple Harley thefts
in south Minneapolis.
471
00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:30,735
PAT: There were some bikes
stolen from a friend
of mine's house.
472
00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:32,637
I hired a private investigator
473
00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:34,673
to find out
who the bike thieves were.
474
00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:39,177
I went and had a chat
with these folks.
475
00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,547
Actually, I'd probably use
the word kidnapped 'em,
you know,
476
00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:45,850
and, uh, told them
if I didn't get them bikes back
477
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,754
and, uh, what else they stole,
there'd be a serious problem.
478
00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,226
They was young punks
and they didn't know
what they got into,
479
00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:57,729
but, uh, everything come back.
480
00:35:00,632 --> 00:35:02,200
OMODT: This was
a critical error for him.
481
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,070
Pat lost it.
482
00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:07,238
And, uh, that was
his critical mistake.
483
00:35:09,741 --> 00:35:12,077
It wasn't a solid case
by any means,
484
00:35:12,143 --> 00:35:14,713
but we were able
to get some people
to come forward
485
00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:18,116
about what happened
and how they were threatened
by the Hells Angels.
486
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,884
That's how we got to Pat.
487
00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:31,029
PAT: When they
raided the house,
488
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,866
they used that motorcycle thing
as a warrant.
489
00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:41,172
Our task force raided
the Hells Angels clubhouse.
490
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:48,947
The way to get to guys like Pat
is to follow the money.
491
00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:52,751
And he had the motorcycle shop
in north Minneapolis.
492
00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:56,321
We figured
that that was the front
for running this money through.
493
00:35:56,388 --> 00:36:00,258
Cash from drug sales
was being brought
through the business
494
00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:03,828
with falsified receipts made up
and stuff like that.
495
00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:12,237
They finally put together
enough of a case to charge me
496
00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:13,972
with continuous
criminal enterprise.
497
00:36:28,153 --> 00:36:31,022
November 25th
was my sentencing date.
498
00:36:31,122 --> 00:36:34,592
And that morning,
the hardest thing I ever did
499
00:36:34,659 --> 00:36:37,328
was drop my son off,
knowing I wasn't going
to see him,
500
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:40,365
uh, at home again
for a long time,
501
00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,167
and it was a tough day.
502
00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:53,044
The judge
come into the courtroom,
503
00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:55,947
and he gave me 17.5 years.
504
00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,286
LEE: That kind of a sentence,
it's over.
505
00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:02,787
Now you've buried a guy.
506
00:37:05,623 --> 00:37:08,927
TRISH: I came home,
and it was like
this is so weird.
507
00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,129
His boots are
at the top of the stairs,
508
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:12,597
his keys are on the bar.
509
00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:15,433
Connor's like, "Where's Dad?"
510
00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,471
It was weird.
511
00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:23,041
Yeah.
512
00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:26,111
This is stupid.
I don't wanna cry on TV.
513
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,281
I've always been
in control of my situations,
514
00:37:30,348 --> 00:37:32,984
and, man,
this one, I wasn't.
515
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,788
And, uh,
it was a helpless feeling.
516
00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:38,790
I knew I could lose my wife,
517
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:43,561
uh, my son could be
living someplace else,
have a stepfather.
518
00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,830
It's all things that I feared.
519
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:48,266
And, uh, it was
all my own fault.
520
00:37:52,704 --> 00:37:56,908
The ultimate goal, obviously,
was to get Pat to roll over.
521
00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:13,525
OMODT: Our end goal
was to get Pat to cooperate
522
00:38:13,591 --> 00:38:17,395
and build a case
against the Hells Angels
as an organization.
523
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:18,596
His knowledge
of the inner workings
524
00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:22,967
of the Hells Angels
had to be vast.
525
00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:27,539
And Pat was sentenced
to 17.5 years in prison.
526
00:38:27,605 --> 00:38:32,443
It was pretty much
a death sentence for a person
that was Pat's age at the time.
527
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:34,712
I think
that became a motivator.
528
00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:46,524
I met Chris Omodt
and some of the folks
that was doing this case,
529
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:49,727
and, uh, they asked me
about cooperation.
530
00:38:55,266 --> 00:38:58,436
People don't understand
belonging to an organization
like the Hells Angels.
531
00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:01,506
I mean, there's a bond there.
I mean, that was my whole life.
532
00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:04,042
I had been
in motorcycle clubs 31 years.
533
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:13,518
OMODT: I know
for Pat to cooperate
534
00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:15,787
against his brothers
in the Hells Angels,
535
00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:17,422
was probably
the toughest decision
536
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,624
he's ever made his entire life.
537
00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:26,397
PAT: You know,
it's really hard to describe,
538
00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:29,200
uh, what a man's feeling
in that situation,
539
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:32,003
when you're so dedicated
to an organization
540
00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:34,872
that has
nothing to do with family,
541
00:39:34,939 --> 00:39:36,874
but you're putting them
at the same level.
542
00:39:36,941 --> 00:39:38,876
You know,
who thinks like that?
543
00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:42,146
Well, I did
because I was a Hells Angel.
544
00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:43,915
It was a tough decision
to come to
545
00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:45,884
because I really loved
being in a club.
546
00:39:49,587 --> 00:39:52,991
TRISH: I think anybody,
if they are looking
547
00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:57,028
at that kind of time,
you're going to think
real hard.
548
00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:01,466
And I think Pat in his mind
just kind of thought
life's too short.
549
00:40:01,532 --> 00:40:03,067
You just never know
what's going to happen.
550
00:40:04,202 --> 00:40:08,373
And you're just going to do
what's best for you.
551
00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:17,081
It was a really hard decision,
but I chose my family over that.
552
00:40:23,187 --> 00:40:25,757
Pat gave up information
553
00:40:25,823 --> 00:40:29,360
on his main source
of methamphetamine.
554
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,930
He also gave up
the vice-president
of his chapter,
555
00:40:32,997 --> 00:40:37,135
who was one of his buyers
of his product.
556
00:40:37,201 --> 00:40:40,405
So he gave up the guy above him
and the guy below him.
557
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,514
There's no guarantee now
that my wife's going
to be there.
558
00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,649
I had to think about that, too.
559
00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:54,118
But I signed everything I own
over to her
560
00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:55,787
and, uh, power of attorney
561
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,922
and, and told her
I understand
562
00:40:57,989 --> 00:40:59,223
if she's not there
when I come home.
563
00:41:17,909 --> 00:41:21,312
I was given transportation
right to my front door,
564
00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:25,550
and as soon
as I pulled in the driveway,
there my wife and my son was.
565
00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:32,990
We took a walk around the yard
and Connor was just so happy.
566
00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:35,593
And he was just ecstatic
to be home.
567
00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:43,201
PAT: You'd have
to just about go through that
to feel that kind of...
568
00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:46,170
It was a lot of emotions.
569
00:41:51,142 --> 00:41:54,412
LEE: I've never, ever heard
of anybody waiting ten years.
570
00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:58,249
I've heard of them
making five, but never ten.
571
00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,752
She's one of a kind.
572
00:42:00,752 --> 00:42:04,022
He got lucky.
That's what it was...
573
00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:06,357
Wasn't anything he did.
He got lucky.
574
00:42:10,428 --> 00:42:14,732
PAT: I look back,
and what I see is that I made
the right decision.
575
00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,970
I got to experience
other things in life,
576
00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:21,439
which I would have never done
when I was a Hells Angel.
577
00:42:23,741 --> 00:42:30,014
As far as regrets, uh,
I was very proud of being
a Hells Angel,
578
00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:31,516
and that's who I was
at that time.
579
00:42:31,582 --> 00:42:33,785
And I did it
to the best of my ability.
580
00:42:36,254 --> 00:42:38,322
The only one who could
judge me is God now.
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