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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,873 --> 00:00:08,408 PAT MATTER: You know, there's something about that patch, 2 00:00:08,475 --> 00:00:09,743 that death head patch. 3 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:14,448 You wanted to be a Hells Angel. 4 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:20,921 Pat Matter, he ran the state of Minnesota 5 00:00:20,988 --> 00:00:21,989 with an iron glove. 6 00:00:23,891 --> 00:00:26,026 PAT: I mean, if I was surrounded by other people, 7 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:29,296 I'm going to go out there and try to (BLEEP) make sure they think I'm dangerous. 8 00:00:30,931 --> 00:00:34,067 Never in a million years did I think I'd just pack up and move into his house, 9 00:00:34,134 --> 00:00:35,636 but I did. 10 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:41,542 He was the biggest organized crime figure that I'd ever seen. 11 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:47,347 I was making $3 million a year selling methamphetamine, 12 00:00:47,414 --> 00:00:51,151 but there were other rivals that wanted to have me gone. 13 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:56,657 I could have got killed real easy. Let's put it that way. 14 00:00:58,425 --> 00:00:59,793 It started a war. 15 00:00:59,860 --> 00:01:02,996 When I say war, I'm talking about people dying. 16 00:01:04,464 --> 00:01:06,967 Our end goal is to get Pat to cooperate. 17 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:11,838 It was a really hard decision, but I chose my family. 18 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:19,012 I have never told my life story on camera before. 19 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:20,414 This is the first time. 20 00:01:22,382 --> 00:01:24,384 MAN: Over and over, they say they are not criminals, 21 00:01:24,451 --> 00:01:28,422 they're rebels, rebelling against a society for which they have no respect. 22 00:01:31,692 --> 00:01:33,627 We never gave a (BLEEP) about what anybody else thought. 23 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,234 We're mostly a bunch of happy-go-lucky guys 24 00:01:41,301 --> 00:01:43,070 trying to make it in this world, you know. 25 00:01:43,136 --> 00:01:45,439 KERRI KRYSKO: They're misfits, they're outlaws. 26 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:48,442 And they defy the laws of attraction. 27 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:51,011 I don't know, I idolize 'em, I adore 'em. 28 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:52,045 They're my whole life. 29 00:01:54,348 --> 00:01:58,285 Angels forever, forever Angels. Speaks for itself. 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,557 The Hells Angels are not a criminal organization. 31 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:05,592 Why don't you people go home? 32 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:07,794 GEORGE CHRISTIE: It's an organization with criminals in it. 33 00:02:11,865 --> 00:02:15,969 The Hells Angels run a massive propaganda scheme. 34 00:02:16,036 --> 00:02:19,272 And the unknowing gulped down that Hells Angels Kool-Aid. 35 00:02:19,272 --> 00:02:21,642 Everybody just cool out. 36 00:02:21,708 --> 00:02:23,677 Hells Angels, everybody. 37 00:02:23,744 --> 00:02:28,782 JAY DOBYNS: That is all designed to hide murder, rape, drug trafficking, 38 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:31,952 gun running, extortion, assault, arson. 39 00:02:34,554 --> 00:02:36,390 I'm not trying to glorify my life, 40 00:02:36,456 --> 00:02:38,592 but I'm certainly not gonna apologize for it. 41 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:41,995 I'm doing extreme stuff. 42 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:45,699 -For what? -I'm telling it the way it really happened. 43 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:48,402 I never thought I'd be talking openly about this stuff. 44 00:02:48,468 --> 00:02:50,470 -INTERVIEWER: Are you ready for this? -I'm ready. 45 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:18,799 My name's Pat Matter, and I was the president 46 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,635 of Minneapolis Hells Angels for 21 years. 47 00:03:25,872 --> 00:03:29,509 People don't understand belonging to an organization like the Hells Angels. 48 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:31,078 I mean, there's a bond there. 49 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:35,382 It's your life. I mean, that was my whole life. 50 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,062 My mom and dad divorced in the '50s. 51 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:52,566 Uh, I lived in Fort Dodge, Iowa, with my mother, 52 00:03:54,601 --> 00:03:57,270 but, uh, my mother, uh, left me, 53 00:03:57,337 --> 00:04:02,542 and, uh, I had to quit school in the seventh grade. 54 00:04:02,642 --> 00:04:04,344 Just, kind of, basically raised myself. 55 00:04:06,113 --> 00:04:09,449 REX LEE: Pat and I both grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. 56 00:04:09,516 --> 00:04:12,786 We grew up tough. Nobody cared. 57 00:04:12,853 --> 00:04:16,656 And it leads into the whole outlaw thing, 58 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:18,024 just happens, you know. 59 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,560 You don't plan on that. It just happens. 60 00:04:24,731 --> 00:04:27,701 PAT: I went around with some friends there in Fort Dodge 61 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:28,835 that, uh, were bikers. 62 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,672 So they took me in, and, uh, that's how I ended up 63 00:04:32,739 --> 00:04:35,909 really, uh, loving the club thing. 64 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:38,912 And if you're in a club, you always want to move up. 65 00:04:42,349 --> 00:04:44,684 They had a club called the Grim Reapers. 66 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:48,221 The club, they knew I would stand behind them. 67 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:49,990 I was a fighter. 68 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:51,525 (CLAMORING) 69 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:05,038 I was working at a place called R&M Manufacturing. 70 00:05:06,806 --> 00:05:10,310 And, uh, I was dating a girl by the name of Leslie. 71 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:13,079 And she had turned me onto some meth. 72 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:14,748 And the feeling I got off of it... 73 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:16,550 I mean, like, the first time, I didn't go to sleep. 74 00:05:20,253 --> 00:05:22,622 If you drink beer, you can drink twice as much. 75 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:25,659 If you're partying, you can have a good time all night. 76 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:29,896 It gave me a lot of energy, and I thought, 77 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:31,832 "Man, you know what? This is good stuff. 78 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:34,367 "A guy can make some money with that" because I worked night shift. 79 00:05:38,471 --> 00:05:41,608 And all the guys, I start selling them just small amounts. 80 00:05:44,578 --> 00:05:46,112 By the time payday rolled around, 81 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:48,882 they was giving me most of their check. (CHUCKLES) 82 00:05:51,418 --> 00:05:55,589 I was diming it up. Starting out with a gram that cost me $25. 83 00:05:55,655 --> 00:05:58,425 And by the time the end of the week rolled around, 84 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,827 I would get $400 in return. 85 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:03,663 $400 was a big thing for me. Back in that day, 86 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:05,031 it was a lot of money. 87 00:06:08,401 --> 00:06:10,637 Fort Dodge was kind of a rough, tough town, 88 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:13,573 and drinking and fighting went hand in hand. 89 00:06:14,507 --> 00:06:15,675 Uh, it was crazy. 90 00:06:22,549 --> 00:06:26,920 One night, Rick, my best friend, and I were out bar hopping. 91 00:06:29,623 --> 00:06:33,560 When we come up to a bar named Crinnegan's, some guys were walking out. 92 00:06:35,095 --> 00:06:37,197 They had guns. They pulled them out immediately, 93 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:38,965 as soon as they seen me and Rick. 94 00:06:40,867 --> 00:06:42,202 It was just so fast. 95 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:43,370 Rick got hit. 96 00:06:47,207 --> 00:06:48,708 I kind of grabbed him. 97 00:06:48,708 --> 00:06:52,245 My hand actually went into the wound. 98 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:54,514 He was dead then because it went right through the heart. 99 00:06:57,784 --> 00:07:01,354 I, uh, felt pretty bad about that. 100 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,124 You know, it took me a while to get over it. 101 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:08,895 But it just made me want to be a Grim Reaper that much more 102 00:07:08,995 --> 00:07:10,463 because Rick gave his life for it. 103 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:11,898 And he believed in brotherhood, 104 00:07:11,998 --> 00:07:13,700 and he was there because of that. 105 00:07:18,638 --> 00:07:20,473 I doubled down on the club. 106 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:22,509 And I moved to Minneapolis 107 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,477 and become the president of the Grim Reapers. 108 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:28,782 But I wanted to go further. 109 00:07:35,021 --> 00:07:38,258 I met a Hells Angel that was just got out of prison. 110 00:07:38,358 --> 00:07:40,660 His name was Gramps, Roger Sheehan. 111 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,495 He sold methamphetamine to me. 112 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:44,698 We become pretty good friends. 113 00:07:45,665 --> 00:07:47,734 And not only that, 114 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,836 he really wanted me to be a Hells Angel. 115 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:51,371 And I thought about it. 116 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:55,141 And the Hells Angels were the club. 117 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:56,943 I want to be just like that. 118 00:07:57,043 --> 00:07:58,011 I said, that's where I'm going. 119 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:15,295 It took a year to patch over. 120 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:24,804 We wasn't members yet, but we was being brought up for members. 121 00:08:28,141 --> 00:08:29,909 KERRIE DROBAN: They've got this whole system, 122 00:08:29,976 --> 00:08:33,513 whereby if you're prospecting for the club, they have a number of tests. 123 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:37,751 And so some of those tests include ingesting drugs, you know, 124 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:41,521 because a law enforcement officer is not going to ingest drugs. 125 00:08:41,588 --> 00:08:45,625 And some of those tests involved throwing women at prospects. 126 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:56,703 PAT: Thunder was the president of the North Carolina chapter. 127 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:02,108 And, uh, he, uh, called one night and said, 128 00:09:02,108 --> 00:09:05,912 "Pat, I want you to go to the club 129 00:09:05,912 --> 00:09:08,248 "and, uh, pick up, uh, my girl 130 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:11,151 "and, uh, bring her back and then call me." 131 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:16,823 So I brought her back, and he said, "You got her there now?" 132 00:09:16,823 --> 00:09:20,193 I said, "Yeah." He said, "Now punch her in the (BLEEP) mouth for me." 133 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,961 So I punched her in the mouth. 134 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:32,972 And then he said, "Now, (BLEEP) her." 135 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,408 Well, I had to follow through on that, too. 136 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:43,283 DROBAN: The Hells Angels are notorious misogynists. 137 00:09:43,349 --> 00:09:47,153 Women, you know, be crass, are passed around like bike parts. 138 00:09:48,354 --> 00:09:50,156 Certain groups will call them pass arounds. 139 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:51,324 They're sheep. 140 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:53,159 They're there to service the club's agenda. 141 00:09:53,226 --> 00:09:55,028 They are essentially objects. 142 00:09:56,396 --> 00:09:58,631 It made me stop and think "What did I get into?" 143 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:00,300 I thought, "God," you know. 144 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,036 Uh, I can't back up. 145 00:10:03,102 --> 00:10:05,104 Or otherwise I wasn't gonna be a Hells Angel, 146 00:10:05,205 --> 00:10:07,040 and I wasn't gonna stop that for nothing. 147 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:26,993 PAT: We became Hells Angels in September 18th, 1982. 148 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:30,897 I mean, we were so happy. 149 00:10:30,997 --> 00:10:32,632 I can't even tell you how I felt. 150 00:10:32,699 --> 00:10:34,601 I'll never forget it as long as I live. 151 00:10:44,677 --> 00:10:47,280 When I opened up the charter in '82, 152 00:10:47,347 --> 00:10:50,884 it also opened up opportunities selling methamphetamine. 153 00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:53,987 Hells Angels don't burn people on drugs. 154 00:10:54,053 --> 00:10:55,421 You know what, they just don't. 155 00:10:55,522 --> 00:10:56,623 It's bad business. 156 00:10:56,689 --> 00:11:00,593 So during that time, business started to expand. 157 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,866 In the '70s, methamphetamine, 158 00:11:06,866 --> 00:11:08,735 no matter what you got caught with, 159 00:11:08,801 --> 00:11:11,037 it was only a five-year sentence. 160 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:13,606 With Reagan in office, 161 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:16,309 it went from a class B drug to a class A. 162 00:11:16,309 --> 00:11:19,646 Well, the difference in that is it could be 25 years, 163 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:20,914 could be life. 164 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:31,591 As time went on, you had to get smarter because times were changing. 165 00:11:37,630 --> 00:11:41,968 I, uh, had one incident where I went down in Charlotte, North Carolina, 166 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:45,238 and a friend of mine named Billy West, a ballsy guy, you know, 167 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:48,875 and he had what he called a booster vest with... 168 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:51,244 They had a sew in pocket all the way around his... 169 00:11:51,311 --> 00:11:52,712 I said, "Well, how are we going to get it back?" 170 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:53,813 He said, "We're going to fly it back." 171 00:11:59,619 --> 00:12:02,455 Three pounds were on my buddy Billy West's vest. 172 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:04,224 And I thought, "Well, (BLEEP). 173 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:05,925 "Well, I'm going to go to jail with him anyways." 174 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:10,296 We, uh, grabbed a plane and flew back to Minnesota. 175 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,842 We got away with that, and I look back, and I laugh at it. 176 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:25,078 Uh, but it wouldn't have been too funny if I got caught. 177 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,783 So I established a way of getting it to Minnesota, 178 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:32,785 where I didn't even have to leave the state. 179 00:12:38,391 --> 00:12:43,262 I had it flown in by a personal pilot. 180 00:12:43,329 --> 00:12:44,998 And after I picked up the dope, 181 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:46,899 got it where I wanted to put it, 182 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,401 I went back with the money. 183 00:12:49,035 --> 00:12:50,837 It was very smooth. 184 00:12:56,042 --> 00:12:59,912 He ran the state of Minnesota with an iron glove. 185 00:12:59,912 --> 00:13:02,315 A lot of clubs stayed out of the state of Minnesota 186 00:13:02,382 --> 00:13:04,217 because they know he was a no (BLEEP) around guy. 187 00:13:10,189 --> 00:13:13,192 He was a mood swing guy, you know? 188 00:13:13,259 --> 00:13:15,695 I remember one time, uh, we were in a bathroom. 189 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,096 They had a little bag of speed. 190 00:13:17,196 --> 00:13:19,399 And they're taking little bumps off of it and (BLEEP). 191 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:21,134 And I didn't do it. I've never done it. 192 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,404 Pat walks over, and he pokes a knife in the bag and goes, 193 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,272 "Here, sniff this," 194 00:13:26,272 --> 00:13:27,573 you know, puts it up to my face. 195 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,111 I turn my head. I said, "I don't want to," you know? 196 00:13:32,111 --> 00:13:35,314 And he says, "Hey, do this or I swear to God, I'll stab you." 197 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:37,183 I said, "(BLEEP) it. Stab me." 198 00:13:37,283 --> 00:13:39,018 He just... (SNIFFS) He just sniffed it up. 199 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:42,121 And then he looked at me and he goes, "You know what, Charlie? 200 00:13:42,188 --> 00:13:44,590 "Are you sure you don't work for the police?" 201 00:13:50,263 --> 00:13:52,565 PAT: When you're dealing methamphetamine, 202 00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:55,034 naturally, you're always looking over your shoulder. 203 00:13:55,101 --> 00:13:57,804 But I had a circle that was so tight, 204 00:13:57,870 --> 00:13:59,305 and it was all bikers, 205 00:13:59,405 --> 00:14:02,041 that I never had to deal with John Q. Citizen. 206 00:14:02,108 --> 00:14:03,910 It was somebody I knew and I trusted. 207 00:14:03,976 --> 00:14:05,712 So I was kind of buried in there like a tick. 208 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:08,648 I did it relatively fast, 209 00:14:08,715 --> 00:14:13,986 from $400 a week to probably $3 million a year selling methamphetamine. 210 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:21,661 I never had no fear of nothing at the time. 211 00:14:21,761 --> 00:14:24,230 I don't know why. That's why I was good at it. 212 00:14:34,073 --> 00:14:38,311 Being a Hells Angel, I went through two marriages. 213 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:40,713 I mean, I gave up so much. 214 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:43,683 I lost track of what I was supposed to be doing at home. 215 00:14:59,098 --> 00:15:01,667 TRISH MATTER: I was working at a little restaurant, 216 00:15:01,768 --> 00:15:03,436 and I was a waitress there. 217 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:05,671 Then one day, in walks Pat. 218 00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:09,876 And they're all like, "He wants to date you." 219 00:15:09,942 --> 00:15:14,614 And I said, "He's not my type." 220 00:15:17,016 --> 00:15:19,385 PAT: I would come to find out her name was Trish, 221 00:15:19,385 --> 00:15:21,721 and I wasn't going to give up. 222 00:15:25,224 --> 00:15:27,794 TRISH: I think he came in every day, like, that whole week. 223 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,495 That was right around my birthday, 224 00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:32,832 and started singing Happy Birthday to me. 225 00:15:35,668 --> 00:15:38,471 I could not sing a (BLEEP) lick. 226 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,907 I, uh, broke out happy birth... you know, 227 00:15:41,007 --> 00:15:42,742 and I sang that with everybody looking at me 228 00:15:42,842 --> 00:15:44,477 "Would you please shut the (BLEEP) up?" 229 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:50,783 TRISH: One day, he comes in and he has these two tickets to Hawaii. 230 00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:52,218 I said, "Are you going on a trip?" 231 00:15:52,318 --> 00:15:54,887 And he's like, "If you'll go with me." 232 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:59,725 And a week later, we were in Hawaii. (CHUCKLES) 233 00:16:01,027 --> 00:16:03,863 And had a blast. 234 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:06,966 It also could have been the thing that could have ruined it, 235 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:09,902 uh, because, ironically, while I was in Hawaii, 236 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:14,507 where I stored my drugs got raided, 237 00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:17,944 and I had to come home a week early. 238 00:16:18,044 --> 00:16:20,947 And I didn't know if Trish was gonna put up with that. 239 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:24,383 And when we got back, uh, I thought she'd be gone. 240 00:16:24,383 --> 00:16:25,351 She stuck it out. 241 00:16:31,624 --> 00:16:32,725 TRISH: Never in a million years did I think 242 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:34,594 I'd just pack up and go to Hawaii 243 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,462 or pack up and move into his house, 244 00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:37,897 but I did. 245 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:44,237 So I'm going, "Well, I guess we're kind of a couple." 246 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:48,274 He was, kind of, tinkering around, 247 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:49,876 building bikes out of the garage, 248 00:16:49,942 --> 00:16:51,911 and I would cook for the guys. 249 00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:54,747 And we always had somebody over. 250 00:16:56,983 --> 00:17:00,319 All of a sudden, one day, he takes me in this old building, 251 00:17:00,386 --> 00:17:03,189 and he's like, "I'm thinking of renting this and making a bike shop." 252 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:19,605 Anything illegal or whatever, any kind of a dealing he was doing, 253 00:17:19,672 --> 00:17:22,508 he made sure I, like, never knew anything. 254 00:17:22,575 --> 00:17:24,243 I mean, I'm not dumb. 255 00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:28,281 I suspected. I... It wasn't... It wasn't hard to figure out. 256 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:38,424 REPORTER: The Outlaws are one of the nation's largest motorcycle gangs. 257 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:39,992 Their violence now seems directed 258 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,261 towards members of rival motorcycle gangs, 259 00:17:42,361 --> 00:17:46,265 what investigators believe is a war to control drug markets. 260 00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:47,967 PAT: Uh, living the lifestyle I did, 261 00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:52,838 there were other rivals that, uh, wanted to have me, uh, gone. 262 00:18:09,322 --> 00:18:12,425 ANNOUNCER: Pat Matter is the most consistent pro stock racer 263 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,026 in the country right now, 264 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,828 and he is on the starting line. 265 00:18:22,001 --> 00:18:24,303 In the '90s, I started drag racing, 266 00:18:24,403 --> 00:18:26,906 so I ran into the Outlaws everywhere. 267 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:36,415 REPORTER: These are members of the Outlaws motorcycle gang. 268 00:18:36,482 --> 00:18:38,184 The Outlaws are one of the nation's 269 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:41,520 largest motorcycle gangs and one of the most violent. 270 00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:44,523 The Outlaws are believed to make large profits from drugs. 271 00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:46,392 MAN: Yeah! 272 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:53,065 PAT: The Outlaws are another motorcycle club, 273 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:56,736 uh, that the Hells Angels don't get along with. 274 00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:58,871 And it's something that probably will never end 275 00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:03,409 because, uh, of membership being so stubborn on both parts. 276 00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:12,385 When I was in Georgia, they surrounded me. 277 00:19:12,451 --> 00:19:15,788 And I told them, I said, "Hey, look, I'm going to be at these racetracks. 278 00:19:15,855 --> 00:19:20,159 "they're very important to me. And the racetracks ought to be neutral." 279 00:19:23,562 --> 00:19:25,798 TRISH: We pretty much did everything together. 280 00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:29,535 And once he started racing, we went to all of the races. 281 00:19:29,602 --> 00:19:31,237 I knew the Outlaws were a rival gang. 282 00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:32,972 I won't say that I didn't feel that I was, 283 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:34,840 like, scared of the danger or whatever. 284 00:19:34,907 --> 00:19:39,145 But I always knew when there was something wrong 285 00:19:39,245 --> 00:19:42,114 because he was always a little bit stressed. 286 00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:47,386 PAT: The next race was in Milwaukee. 287 00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:49,789 And, uh, there's the first time 288 00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:52,158 I ever met their leader, Taco Bowman. 289 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:59,432 He was in charge of the whole Outlaw club. 290 00:19:59,498 --> 00:20:03,002 And he, uh, didn't like me racing in Milwaukee, 291 00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:06,972 so he showed up at this motel just before we went to the track. 292 00:20:10,276 --> 00:20:14,447 The Outlaws come in, about 25 to 30, 293 00:20:14,513 --> 00:20:19,185 and the first thing that comes in is a Lincoln. 294 00:20:19,185 --> 00:20:22,388 And they pull over, and, uh, they pull out the MAC-10. 295 00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:23,989 They sit on top of the roof of the car. 296 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,360 My guys were on the second floor 297 00:20:28,427 --> 00:20:30,196 with the windows open and with their guns. 298 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:36,802 And Taco said that I could not race with my patch on. 299 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:43,609 He said, "Not only was this our charter, it's our living room, 300 00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:45,911 "and you're going to be out here racing with your patch on? 301 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,313 "No, no, it ain't gonna happen." 302 00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:51,984 And I told him I'm going to race with my patch. 303 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:55,588 And, uh, he said, "Well, if you decide to race without it, I'll see you there. 304 00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:58,657 "If you're going to race with your patch, we're gonna have a problem." 305 00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:00,326 So they packed up and left. 306 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:05,698 And at that point, Kevin Cleary, the East Coast president, 307 00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:08,334 he didn't think it was a smart idea, 308 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,469 and he knew I was a bull head. 309 00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:12,972 Went in and called Sonny Barger and said, 310 00:21:13,038 --> 00:21:15,074 "Sonny would like to talk to you on the phone." 311 00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:17,543 And he says, "Man, don't race there." 312 00:21:17,643 --> 00:21:19,945 He said, "You know what? Don't get killed just because, 313 00:21:20,045 --> 00:21:22,648 "you know, you're not thinking this over real well." 314 00:21:22,715 --> 00:21:23,883 And he talked me down. 315 00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,284 And, uh, you know what? 316 00:21:25,351 --> 00:21:26,919 I wouldn't be here today 317 00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:29,522 if Sonny wouldn't have talked to me on the phone. 318 00:21:29,588 --> 00:21:32,658 That confrontation with Taco, uh, didn't end there. 319 00:21:42,434 --> 00:21:43,736 PEEWEE: Now, the Hells Henchmen 320 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:47,473 were in Rockford, Illinois, South Bend, Indiana, 321 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:51,010 and four chapters of them in Chicago area. 322 00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:52,344 They're a big club. 323 00:21:52,444 --> 00:21:54,880 Pat was the one that went down and talked to 'em, 324 00:21:54,947 --> 00:21:57,449 and they all decided, "Hey, we want to be Hells Angels." 325 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:01,954 PAT: They wanted to be Hells Angels. 326 00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,722 I figured they should have that chance. 327 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:10,563 And as soon as the Outlaws got wind of that, that really pissed them off 328 00:22:10,629 --> 00:22:14,099 because, uh, it was in Chicago, their home charter. 329 00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:19,438 Outlaws didn't want another major club, 330 00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:22,474 especially the Hells Angels, (BLEEP) in Chicago. 331 00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:28,948 CHRIS OMODT: Pat Matter coming down there and trying to patch over 332 00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:31,717 the Hells Henchmen to Hells Angels, 333 00:22:31,784 --> 00:22:34,687 that's about as big as an insult as you can get. 334 00:22:50,436 --> 00:22:53,272 PAT: A guy that was buying a bike from me 335 00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,007 wanted me to ride in his new Lincoln, 336 00:22:55,074 --> 00:22:57,076 and he talked me out of driving my pickup. 337 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,080 We were about three blocks from the shop, 338 00:23:02,514 --> 00:23:05,351 and we hear this loud explosion. 339 00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:16,829 It was my truck, and, uh, it was C-4 encased in a steel 9x6 340 00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:19,865 with a mercury-activated switch with aluminum on the top, 341 00:23:19,865 --> 00:23:21,433 so the blast would have been directed 342 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,935 straight up under the driver's seat. 343 00:23:27,106 --> 00:23:28,407 I could've got killed real easy. 344 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:29,708 Let's put it that way. 345 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:36,015 OMODT: A bomb going off in Minneapolis, I had never heard of it. 346 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,050 It raises the hair on the back of your neck. 347 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:45,024 PAT: I knew it was the Outlaws and I knew it was Taco. 348 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,559 Uh, it was pretty obvious. 349 00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:51,030 Law enforcement asked me, 350 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:53,232 I said, "Well, that's for you to determine. 351 00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:54,600 "I really don't know." 352 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,835 These crimes are not easy to solve. 353 00:23:56,902 --> 00:23:58,470 It's a secret society. 354 00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:01,473 And trying to break through that secret society is extremely difficult. 355 00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:08,480 Pretty much all law enforcement at that time was put on high alert, saying, 356 00:24:08,547 --> 00:24:10,749 "Be aware of what's going on between these two gangs." 357 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,958 When the bomb went off, it didn't deter me wanting to be a Hells Angel. 358 00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:21,060 It just made me want to dig in more, you know. 359 00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:26,799 OMODT: After Pat's truck got bombed, 360 00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:30,336 law enforcement knew there was going to be payback. 361 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:48,120 LEE: Well, this bomb on Pat's vehicle, 362 00:24:48,187 --> 00:24:50,556 any kind of attack like that 363 00:24:50,622 --> 00:24:53,425 from one motorcycle club to another, 364 00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,427 it has to be retaliated in some way, shape... 365 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,730 It just has to be. You can't let that go. 366 00:24:57,796 --> 00:24:59,898 You know, when this bomb went off, 367 00:24:59,998 --> 00:25:05,170 that put me in a position I, I really never wanted to be in. 368 00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:08,073 Now I gotta do something. 369 00:25:08,073 --> 00:25:10,275 I mean, something had to happen. 370 00:25:13,946 --> 00:25:18,584 There was a tattoo parlor in Milwaukee that one of the Outlaws owned, 371 00:25:18,584 --> 00:25:21,587 and I wanted to send them the message loud and clear. 372 00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:22,955 Hey, we're going to fight back. 373 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:27,359 PeeWee at that time was a prospect up here. 374 00:25:27,426 --> 00:25:31,997 And, uh, what better way to check out his, uh, capabilities? 375 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:35,200 (EXPLOSION) 376 00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:38,270 No, Pat... 377 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,606 Pat never asked me to go bomb anything. 378 00:25:53,452 --> 00:25:55,721 DROBAN: Biker gangs got into using bombs 379 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,590 because they made a statement. 380 00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:01,427 You know, it was also very hard to track it back. 381 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:02,528 That was pretty impossible. 382 00:26:02,594 --> 00:26:04,363 And so it really made law enforcement, 383 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:05,497 sort of, you know, run in circles, 384 00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:07,800 trying to figure out who was actually doing this. 385 00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:35,027 My name is Wolf, and I was a member 386 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,463 of the Outlaws Midwest chapter. 387 00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:48,200 The Outlaws, they all knew who everybody was in the game. 388 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,838 And when I say you're at a high risk of danger... 389 00:27:53,872 --> 00:27:55,874 Somebody like Monte. 390 00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:57,376 He was a Hells Henchmen, 391 00:27:57,442 --> 00:28:00,012 and he owned this badass motorcycle shop. 392 00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:03,148 And he was there every day, 9:00 to 5:00. 393 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,164 (WOLF SPEAKING) 394 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,682 (BREATHES DEEPLY) 395 00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,559 PAT: That night, I was at the clubhouse and got a phone call. 396 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:23,328 And on the other end of the line, the guy says, 397 00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:26,164 "Uh, how many members does it take to have a charter? 398 00:29:26,231 --> 00:29:29,034 "Six. Well, you're one short in Rockford." 399 00:29:29,101 --> 00:29:30,435 And then he hung up. 400 00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:33,105 I don't know who it was, but it definitely was one of the Outlaws. 401 00:29:34,906 --> 00:29:35,874 (WOLF SPEAKING) 402 00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:53,125 It was pretty sad, you know. 403 00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:57,929 Monte was a very, very well liked and respected, uh, gentleman. 404 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:07,873 Now the war with the Outlaws is escalating, 405 00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:09,641 and they made another move again. 406 00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,619 PEEWEE: The Hells Henchmen clubhouse in, uh, Chicago. 407 00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,621 We were all there partying. 408 00:30:22,721 --> 00:30:24,589 And then we left to go hit some bars 409 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,158 so the place was actually empty. 410 00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:27,592 (EXPLOSION) 411 00:30:29,027 --> 00:30:30,629 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 412 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,002 REPORTER: Pieces of the destroyed Ford Taurus 413 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,771 are visible more than two blocks from the explosion. 414 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:43,308 In between are shattered windows, burned car parts 415 00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:45,677 and holes blasted through nearby buildings. 416 00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:48,113 PEEWEE: It was a big bomb. 417 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,348 It was, like, the third in the United States' history. 418 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:51,850 Oklahoma being one 419 00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:54,152 and the World Trade Center being two 420 00:30:54,219 --> 00:30:57,756 and (SCOFFS) Grand Avenue clubhouse being three. 421 00:31:01,226 --> 00:31:03,161 It's weird, bro. It's just like 422 00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:04,996 normal people would probably just get up and go, 423 00:31:06,131 --> 00:31:08,300 "I'm done with this (BLEEP)." 424 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,402 Just keep going on to another day, man, I don't know. 425 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:11,536 I never thought about that. 426 00:31:11,603 --> 00:31:13,038 I never, ever said "I'm gonna quit this." 427 00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:19,144 PAT: I don't know what there is about me, 428 00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:22,047 but, uh, I mean, if I was surrounded by other people, 429 00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:25,984 I'm going to go out there and try to (BLEEP) make sure they think I'm dangerous. 430 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:27,753 And you know what? I didn't care. 431 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,725 I don't know what's different about me, but I never feared that stuff. 432 00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:39,464 The Hells Angels never thought about backing out. 433 00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,369 And the Hells Henchmen weathered through it. 434 00:31:44,436 --> 00:31:47,472 I mean, you've got members being killed, they're being stalked. 435 00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:51,176 But they stuck it out. 436 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:55,147 And they knew they was being scrutinized for trying to be Hells Angels. 437 00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:59,751 And it was brought up for patch in December 5th, 1994. 438 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,756 And they was voted in unanimously by every charter. 439 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:11,763 OMODT: The war's been going back and forth. 440 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:15,467 You've got the killing of members, you've got the bombing. 441 00:32:15,467 --> 00:32:18,270 There's a lot of pressure to get this thing solved or stopped. 442 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,013 PAT: It is a game of cat and mouse, you know. 443 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,817 I was under surveillance by law enforcement for what I was doing. 444 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:36,922 And to add to the equation, Trish and I just had a new baby boy. 445 00:32:36,988 --> 00:32:40,325 And, uh, I had to think about what I was getting into and what I was doing, 446 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,027 but I wasn't gonna quit in the middle. 447 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:47,065 Gotta remember, Hells Angels is number one. 448 00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:48,567 The family comes second. 449 00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:01,813 OMODT: Our special operations detail at that time 450 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,049 started an active investigation on Pat. 451 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:11,156 There was a high rise across the interstate from their clubhouse, 452 00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:14,659 and we were able to get a room in that high rise near the top floor, 453 00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,028 and we had cameras up there where we would surveil them. 454 00:33:21,099 --> 00:33:22,167 If you're gonna do a good case, 455 00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:24,169 you better know who you're going after. 456 00:33:24,236 --> 00:33:26,705 With Pat, I studied everything I could on him. 457 00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:33,411 And we all suspected him of dealing drugs, particularly methamphetamine. 458 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,915 But Pat was a really good drug dealer. 459 00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:38,350 He flew below the radar. 460 00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,357 PAT: The authorities were always watching us. 461 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,326 We would always come out of the clubhouse, 462 00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:49,995 if you could see them or not, 463 00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:52,530 we'd always give them the finger, you know, like, (BLEEP) you. 464 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,202 They'd look up, and you see them going like this. 465 00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:59,437 We laughed about it. I'm sure they laughed about it, too, 466 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:00,672 because they know they're being surveilled. 467 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:03,241 But, uh, yeah, we got a kick out of that. 468 00:34:03,308 --> 00:34:05,644 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 469 00:34:16,588 --> 00:34:21,359 We got an unexpected breakthrough in 1997 470 00:34:21,426 --> 00:34:24,396 after learning of a couple Harley thefts in south Minneapolis. 471 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:30,735 PAT: There were some bikes stolen from a friend of mine's house. 472 00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:32,637 I hired a private investigator 473 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:34,673 to find out who the bike thieves were. 474 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:39,177 I went and had a chat with these folks. 475 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,547 Actually, I'd probably use the word kidnapped 'em, you know, 476 00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:45,850 and, uh, told them if I didn't get them bikes back 477 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,754 and, uh, what else they stole, there'd be a serious problem. 478 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,226 They was young punks and they didn't know what they got into, 479 00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:57,729 but, uh, everything come back. 480 00:35:00,632 --> 00:35:02,200 OMODT: This was a critical error for him. 481 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:05,070 Pat lost it. 482 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:07,238 And, uh, that was his critical mistake. 483 00:35:09,741 --> 00:35:12,077 It wasn't a solid case by any means, 484 00:35:12,143 --> 00:35:14,713 but we were able to get some people to come forward 485 00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:18,116 about what happened and how they were threatened by the Hells Angels. 486 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,884 That's how we got to Pat. 487 00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:31,029 PAT: When they raided the house, 488 00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,866 they used that motorcycle thing as a warrant. 489 00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:41,172 Our task force raided the Hells Angels clubhouse. 490 00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:48,947 The way to get to guys like Pat is to follow the money. 491 00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:52,751 And he had the motorcycle shop in north Minneapolis. 492 00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:56,321 We figured that that was the front for running this money through. 493 00:35:56,388 --> 00:36:00,258 Cash from drug sales was being brought through the business 494 00:36:00,358 --> 00:36:03,828 with falsified receipts made up and stuff like that. 495 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:12,237 They finally put together enough of a case to charge me 496 00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:13,972 with continuous criminal enterprise. 497 00:36:28,153 --> 00:36:31,022 November 25th was my sentencing date. 498 00:36:31,122 --> 00:36:34,592 And that morning, the hardest thing I ever did 499 00:36:34,659 --> 00:36:37,328 was drop my son off, knowing I wasn't going to see him, 500 00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:40,365 uh, at home again for a long time, 501 00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,167 and it was a tough day. 502 00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:53,044 The judge come into the courtroom, 503 00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:55,947 and he gave me 17.5 years. 504 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,286 LEE: That kind of a sentence, it's over. 505 00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:02,787 Now you've buried a guy. 506 00:37:05,623 --> 00:37:08,927 TRISH: I came home, and it was like this is so weird. 507 00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:11,129 His boots are at the top of the stairs, 508 00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:12,597 his keys are on the bar. 509 00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:15,433 Connor's like, "Where's Dad?" 510 00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,471 It was weird. 511 00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:23,041 Yeah. 512 00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:26,111 This is stupid. I don't wanna cry on TV. 513 00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,281 I've always been in control of my situations, 514 00:37:30,348 --> 00:37:32,984 and, man, this one, I wasn't. 515 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,788 And, uh, it was a helpless feeling. 516 00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:38,790 I knew I could lose my wife, 517 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:43,561 uh, my son could be living someplace else, have a stepfather. 518 00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,830 It's all things that I feared. 519 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:48,266 And, uh, it was all my own fault. 520 00:37:52,704 --> 00:37:56,908 The ultimate goal, obviously, was to get Pat to roll over. 521 00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:13,525 OMODT: Our end goal was to get Pat to cooperate 522 00:38:13,591 --> 00:38:17,395 and build a case against the Hells Angels as an organization. 523 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:18,596 His knowledge of the inner workings 524 00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:22,967 of the Hells Angels had to be vast. 525 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:27,539 And Pat was sentenced to 17.5 years in prison. 526 00:38:27,605 --> 00:38:32,443 It was pretty much a death sentence for a person that was Pat's age at the time. 527 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:34,712 I think that became a motivator. 528 00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:46,524 I met Chris Omodt and some of the folks that was doing this case, 529 00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:49,727 and, uh, they asked me about cooperation. 530 00:38:55,266 --> 00:38:58,436 People don't understand belonging to an organization like the Hells Angels. 531 00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:01,506 I mean, there's a bond there. I mean, that was my whole life. 532 00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:04,042 I had been in motorcycle clubs 31 years. 533 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:13,518 OMODT: I know for Pat to cooperate 534 00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:15,787 against his brothers in the Hells Angels, 535 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:17,422 was probably the toughest decision 536 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,624 he's ever made his entire life. 537 00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:26,397 PAT: You know, it's really hard to describe, 538 00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:29,200 uh, what a man's feeling in that situation, 539 00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:32,003 when you're so dedicated to an organization 540 00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:34,872 that has nothing to do with family, 541 00:39:34,939 --> 00:39:36,874 but you're putting them at the same level. 542 00:39:36,941 --> 00:39:38,876 You know, who thinks like that? 543 00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:42,146 Well, I did because I was a Hells Angel. 544 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:43,915 It was a tough decision to come to 545 00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:45,884 because I really loved being in a club. 546 00:39:49,587 --> 00:39:52,991 TRISH: I think anybody, if they are looking 547 00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:57,028 at that kind of time, you're going to think real hard. 548 00:39:57,095 --> 00:40:01,466 And I think Pat in his mind just kind of thought life's too short. 549 00:40:01,532 --> 00:40:03,067 You just never know what's going to happen. 550 00:40:04,202 --> 00:40:08,373 And you're just going to do what's best for you. 551 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:17,081 It was a really hard decision, but I chose my family over that. 552 00:40:23,187 --> 00:40:25,757 Pat gave up information 553 00:40:25,823 --> 00:40:29,360 on his main source of methamphetamine. 554 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,930 He also gave up the vice-president of his chapter, 555 00:40:32,997 --> 00:40:37,135 who was one of his buyers of his product. 556 00:40:37,201 --> 00:40:40,405 So he gave up the guy above him and the guy below him. 557 00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,514 There's no guarantee now that my wife's going to be there. 558 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:51,649 I had to think about that, too. 559 00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:54,118 But I signed everything I own over to her 560 00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:55,787 and, uh, power of attorney 561 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,922 and, and told her I understand 562 00:40:57,989 --> 00:40:59,223 if she's not there when I come home. 563 00:41:17,909 --> 00:41:21,312 I was given transportation right to my front door, 564 00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:25,550 and as soon as I pulled in the driveway, there my wife and my son was. 565 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:32,990 We took a walk around the yard and Connor was just so happy. 566 00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:35,593 And he was just ecstatic to be home. 567 00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:43,201 PAT: You'd have to just about go through that to feel that kind of... 568 00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:46,170 It was a lot of emotions. 569 00:41:51,142 --> 00:41:54,412 LEE: I've never, ever heard of anybody waiting ten years. 570 00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:58,249 I've heard of them making five, but never ten. 571 00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,752 She's one of a kind. 572 00:42:00,752 --> 00:42:04,022 He got lucky. That's what it was... 573 00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:06,357 Wasn't anything he did. He got lucky. 574 00:42:10,428 --> 00:42:14,732 PAT: I look back, and what I see is that I made the right decision. 575 00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,970 I got to experience other things in life, 576 00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:21,439 which I would have never done when I was a Hells Angel. 577 00:42:23,741 --> 00:42:30,014 As far as regrets, uh, I was very proud of being a Hells Angel, 578 00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:31,516 and that's who I was at that time. 579 00:42:31,582 --> 00:42:33,785 And I did it to the best of my ability. 580 00:42:36,254 --> 00:42:38,322 The only one who could judge me is God now. 50374

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