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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,083 We would like to look through the anomaly 2 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:04,000 at an astronomical object 3 00:00:04,167 --> 00:00:05,208 over the triangle 4 00:00:05,375 --> 00:00:07,875 and see if they seem obscured. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,083 The object I just slewed to a little while ago 6 00:00:10,208 --> 00:00:12,458 is now no longer in the database. 7 00:00:12,583 --> 00:00:15,667 Erik, the cattle have scattered through the entire field. 8 00:00:15,792 --> 00:00:18,167 -Something's definitely scared them. -(cattle lowing) 9 00:00:18,292 --> 00:00:19,750 What the hell is that in the sky? 10 00:00:19,875 --> 00:00:21,333 CHUCK: That thing is big and spherical. 11 00:00:21,458 --> 00:00:23,667 Yes, it is. It's got a black dot in the center of it. 12 00:00:23,792 --> 00:00:26,125 There's something that I'd like to get your eyes on. 13 00:00:26,208 --> 00:00:27,750 -There. There. -Oh, what was that? 14 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:29,583 That's the brightest thing in the sky! 15 00:00:31,667 --> 00:00:35,250 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:35,375 --> 00:00:37,875 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,667 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:42,833 --> 00:00:44,958 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:45,042 --> 00:00:47,458 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:47,542 --> 00:00:52,833 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:52,917 --> 00:00:55,167 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:58,458 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:00:58,542 --> 00:01:02,625 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:02,750 --> 00:01:06,500 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:06,667 --> 00:01:10,417 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:13,083 --> 00:01:16,292 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:29,250 --> 00:01:33,000 So, Kaleb just came in after being out on patrol 28 00:01:33,125 --> 00:01:35,250 and mentioned that it looks like 29 00:01:35,375 --> 00:01:37,750 we have a downed cow out here in the field, so, 30 00:01:37,875 --> 00:01:40,333 Kaleb, Thomas, myself-- 31 00:01:40,458 --> 00:01:43,542 we're gonna go check it out. 32 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:46,750 Oh, man, she doesn't look good, does she? 33 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:51,208 Yeah, she's not doing well... at all. 34 00:01:55,542 --> 00:01:58,542 KALEB: Boy, her eyes don't look good, either. 35 00:01:58,708 --> 00:02:01,750 Yeah, she doesn't look very healthy at all. 36 00:02:01,875 --> 00:02:04,000 BRYANT: Hey. Oh, you're good. 37 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,083 You're good. 38 00:02:08,292 --> 00:02:09,625 -Oh, come on up, girl. -(indistinct chatter) 39 00:02:09,708 --> 00:02:11,042 Get up. Come on. 40 00:02:11,208 --> 00:02:12,667 How many years did we go 41 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:15,333 without any cattle having any issues whatsoever, 42 00:02:15,417 --> 00:02:17,250 and now we're drilling, 43 00:02:17,375 --> 00:02:20,583 we're doing all kinds of stuff, and all of a sudden, 44 00:02:20,708 --> 00:02:24,375 two out of three years, we've got cows that are in bad shape? 45 00:02:37,667 --> 00:02:38,958 -How's it going? -Good. How are you, Donavon? 46 00:02:39,042 --> 00:02:40,208 -Good. -Good to see you. 47 00:02:40,375 --> 00:02:41,125 Good to see you, too. 48 00:02:41,250 --> 00:02:42,375 Morning, Richard. 49 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:44,250 -Hey, Tommy. -How are you? 50 00:02:44,375 --> 00:02:46,208 Good. How are you? 51 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:48,083 Oh, doing pretty good. Good to see you out. 52 00:02:48,208 --> 00:02:49,875 Yeah, good to be out. 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,167 So, uh, we got this cow 54 00:02:52,333 --> 00:02:54,250 that's down here that we called you about. 55 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:55,875 There's one cow now 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,083 that's starting to separate herself 57 00:02:57,208 --> 00:02:59,292 from the group, and 58 00:02:59,417 --> 00:03:01,333 appears to be struggling. 59 00:03:01,458 --> 00:03:03,292 My first thought is to always notify the rancher. 60 00:03:03,417 --> 00:03:05,333 These animals don't belong to us. 61 00:03:05,458 --> 00:03:07,708 512 acres is a lot of ground to maintain, 62 00:03:07,875 --> 00:03:10,875 and we bring the cows on to help keep the grass down. 63 00:03:11,042 --> 00:03:12,583 You know, I don't... I don't know what the deal is with her, 64 00:03:12,708 --> 00:03:14,500 or what her problem is, but hopefully, 65 00:03:14,625 --> 00:03:16,750 you can look at her and figure out what's going on. 66 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:18,875 -Well, let's go see what she's doing. -Okay. 67 00:03:21,083 --> 00:03:22,917 TRAVIS: It's not that mysterious 68 00:03:23,042 --> 00:03:24,833 for a cow to get sick on a ranch, 69 00:03:24,917 --> 00:03:28,333 but there were several odd coincidences about this cow 70 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:30,250 that Thomas, Dragon and Kaleb found acting bizarre 71 00:03:30,375 --> 00:03:32,542 out in the south field. 72 00:03:32,667 --> 00:03:35,167 One-- this happened only a couple nights 73 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:37,333 after our telescope and rocket experiment 74 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:39,958 where two different UAPs appeared in the sky. 75 00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:42,542 I am getting something on the 1.6. 76 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:45,375 TRAVIS: Two-- those UAPs appeared 77 00:03:45,542 --> 00:03:47,583 just after Erik detected another dangerous 78 00:03:47,708 --> 00:03:50,625 RF radiation reading of 1.6 gigahertz, 79 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:52,875 and the cows got all spooked and started running around. 80 00:03:53,042 --> 00:03:54,333 (cattle lowing) 81 00:03:54,458 --> 00:03:56,458 Erik, the cows have pushed in on us. 82 00:03:56,542 --> 00:04:00,333 TRAVIS: And three-- this cow is acting strange 83 00:04:00,458 --> 00:04:02,583 in the exact same location 84 00:04:02,708 --> 00:04:04,542 where a cow actually died two years ago 85 00:04:04,708 --> 00:04:07,792 just as a UAP appeared in the sky above it. 86 00:04:07,917 --> 00:04:10,833 This herd seems pretty docile. 87 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:12,417 Do you ever see 88 00:04:12,542 --> 00:04:14,958 aggression out of cows anywhere other than here? 89 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:18,333 Well, what seems weird to me 90 00:04:18,458 --> 00:04:20,833 is when you have one cow out of the whole herd 91 00:04:20,917 --> 00:04:22,917 that starts going mental. 92 00:04:23,042 --> 00:04:25,125 And I've never had that 93 00:04:25,208 --> 00:04:26,250 -on our ranch. -Hmm. 94 00:04:26,375 --> 00:04:28,250 -Only here? -Only here. 95 00:04:28,375 --> 00:04:29,667 -Wow. -THOMAS: Interesting. 96 00:04:29,792 --> 00:04:31,292 That's very interesting. 97 00:04:31,417 --> 00:04:33,333 Just as we have many scientific instruments, 98 00:04:33,458 --> 00:04:35,667 sensors and cameras deployed across the ranch, 99 00:04:35,792 --> 00:04:38,125 we also speak of the animals here 100 00:04:38,208 --> 00:04:40,167 as bio sensors. 101 00:04:40,292 --> 00:04:41,500 And it's natural for us to wonder 102 00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:43,250 whether there might be something 103 00:04:43,375 --> 00:04:46,083 connected to our recent experiment. 104 00:04:46,208 --> 00:04:48,167 -(cow lowing) -Well, see, there's, uh... 105 00:04:48,292 --> 00:04:49,542 BRYANT: Yeah, she's starting to move. 106 00:04:49,667 --> 00:04:51,750 RICHARD: Get up, get up. There. Good deal. 107 00:04:51,875 --> 00:04:54,417 It's weird. It looks like she's trying to move all... 108 00:04:54,542 --> 00:04:56,000 RICHARD: She's gonna go down, Donavon. 109 00:04:56,125 --> 00:04:58,042 You got to get in front of her. 110 00:04:58,167 --> 00:04:59,750 Wow. 111 00:04:59,875 --> 00:05:02,000 -She's down, she's down. -Yeah. -She might be... 112 00:05:02,083 --> 00:05:03,833 -Yup. See, now she starts... -Yes. 113 00:05:03,917 --> 00:05:05,125 -getting aggressive right there. Shh. Shh. -Yeah. 114 00:05:05,250 --> 00:05:07,042 -Shh. -She's got a gaze on us. 115 00:05:07,208 --> 00:05:08,500 Dad, I got her, I got her. Get back! 116 00:05:08,625 --> 00:05:11,667 -He's on her. -Get back! Get back! 117 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:13,042 (dog barking) 118 00:05:13,208 --> 00:05:14,208 Luca, back. 119 00:05:14,375 --> 00:05:16,667 -Come on. -(barking) 120 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,167 (panting) Ah. 121 00:05:18,292 --> 00:05:20,167 RICHARD: Let her... let her lay down. 122 00:05:20,333 --> 00:05:22,667 -ERIK: She's really in distress. -DONAVON: Yeah. 123 00:05:22,792 --> 00:05:26,167 RICHARD: What I think we'll do, Tommy, is take her home, 124 00:05:26,250 --> 00:05:28,000 and see if she acts any different at home. 125 00:05:28,083 --> 00:05:30,708 She's totally agitated. 126 00:05:30,833 --> 00:05:33,375 I think there's something going on. I don't know what it is. 127 00:05:33,542 --> 00:05:36,333 I don't like thinking about it, I don't want to be around it. 128 00:05:36,417 --> 00:05:37,542 It's a mystery. 129 00:05:37,708 --> 00:05:39,667 BRYANT: Sorry this happened. 130 00:05:39,792 --> 00:05:42,500 We appreciate you coming and bringing your animals out here. 131 00:05:42,583 --> 00:05:45,417 Hopefully, this doesn't sour you on the place too much. 132 00:05:46,375 --> 00:05:47,958 Well, we'll see. 133 00:05:50,125 --> 00:05:52,583 (cow lowing) 134 00:06:00,042 --> 00:06:03,500 TRAVIS: After Erik and I heard about the cow, 135 00:06:03,583 --> 00:06:05,125 we decided it was time to reach back out 136 00:06:05,208 --> 00:06:07,292 to someone who we know was not only 137 00:06:07,375 --> 00:06:09,292 a former investigator on the ranch, 138 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:12,833 but also had his own experiences with bizarre cattle incidents-- 139 00:06:12,958 --> 00:06:15,625 Retired Army Colonel John Alexander. 140 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:18,333 -Thanks for coming out. We appreciate it. -Okay. 141 00:06:18,458 --> 00:06:21,167 TRAVIS: Colonel Alexander was a key member 142 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:23,000 of billionaire Robert Bigelow's team, 143 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:25,375 who studied phenomena on the ranch for two decades, 144 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:27,667 starting back in 1996. 145 00:06:27,792 --> 00:06:31,167 Hey, guys. You remember Colonel Alexander? 146 00:06:31,292 --> 00:06:33,000 TRAVIS: So, given everything we've been experiencing 147 00:06:33,083 --> 00:06:34,667 recently at the triangle, 148 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:37,333 which now seems to be affecting the cattle, as well, 149 00:06:37,458 --> 00:06:39,042 we were grateful that he agreed to come back 150 00:06:39,167 --> 00:06:42,833 and share information that could help our investigation. 151 00:06:42,958 --> 00:06:45,042 So, is this the first time you've been back to the ranch 152 00:06:45,208 --> 00:06:46,042 since the Bigelow era? 153 00:06:46,208 --> 00:06:47,750 Been a couple decades. 154 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:49,667 -TRAVIS: Wow. -Looks a little different. 155 00:06:49,833 --> 00:06:51,583 The topography looks the same. The rest of it 156 00:06:51,708 --> 00:06:54,458 has kind of, uh... has been updated quite a bit. 157 00:06:55,625 --> 00:06:58,333 I was a colonel in the Army, 158 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:00,167 I was in special operations, 159 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:03,792 and finally, as director of advanced system concepts. 160 00:07:03,875 --> 00:07:07,750 The second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory, 161 00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:11,000 where we did all the non-lethal weapons concepts. 162 00:07:11,125 --> 00:07:15,542 I had just left Los Alamos, and in mid '95, 163 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:18,458 Bob Bigelow decided to create NIDS-- 164 00:07:18,583 --> 00:07:20,333 National Institute for Discovery Science-- 165 00:07:20,458 --> 00:07:22,958 and I was the first NIDS employee. 166 00:07:23,042 --> 00:07:27,458 NIDS was formed for the purpose of looking at UFOs. 167 00:07:27,542 --> 00:07:30,708 Skinwalker presented that and so much more. 168 00:07:30,833 --> 00:07:33,583 TRAVIS: We would like to see 169 00:07:33,708 --> 00:07:36,375 if you have some insight from your past here 170 00:07:36,542 --> 00:07:39,333 that might spur us into some other experiments 171 00:07:39,417 --> 00:07:40,875 that we might like to do. 172 00:07:41,042 --> 00:07:44,792 So, during the time that you guys were here, 173 00:07:44,875 --> 00:07:47,875 can you, uh, think of a specific 174 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,500 event that was the most disturbing or impactful? 175 00:07:52,583 --> 00:07:54,750 -Especially something, like, with a cow? -(laughs) 176 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:57,625 I wouldn't know where to begin with that one. 177 00:07:57,750 --> 00:08:02,000 Um, when NIDS was created in mid '95, 178 00:08:02,125 --> 00:08:06,250 Terry Sherman was prepared to sell the ranch, 179 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:08,667 and so, Bob Bigelow made him an offer. 180 00:08:08,792 --> 00:08:10,500 -After he s... bought the ranch... -So he stayed on 181 00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:12,000 -as the ranch manager? -He-he stayed on 182 00:08:12,167 --> 00:08:13,750 as the ranch manager. 183 00:08:13,875 --> 00:08:15,917 So it was calving season. Terry went out, 184 00:08:16,042 --> 00:08:19,708 found a newborn, tag it and weighed it. 185 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:22,833 Drives across, as you know, perfectly open field, 186 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,792 finds another newborn, tags it and weighs it, comes back. 187 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:32,000 And the mother's going berserk, and calf one is dead. 188 00:08:33,208 --> 00:08:36,167 Not only is it dead, but there's about 40 pounds 189 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:38,042 of stuff is missing. 190 00:08:38,208 --> 00:08:41,333 It's eviscerated, exsanguinated, 191 00:08:41,458 --> 00:08:43,750 ear had been sliced off. 192 00:08:43,875 --> 00:08:46,083 TRAVIS: Hearing the strange details of this calf 193 00:08:46,208 --> 00:08:49,750 being mutilated in broad daylight reminds me again 194 00:08:49,875 --> 00:08:52,333 of the cow that died after we first stimulated UAPs 195 00:08:52,458 --> 00:08:54,875 to appear above the triangle two years ago. 196 00:08:56,583 --> 00:08:58,500 What in the world? 197 00:08:58,625 --> 00:09:00,750 Tom Winterton found the cow right after it died, 198 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:03,042 and alerted us to go investigate it. 199 00:09:03,208 --> 00:09:04,792 The meter's just going crazy. 200 00:09:04,875 --> 00:09:07,917 Almost immediately, we began detecting high readings 201 00:09:08,042 --> 00:09:09,625 of RF radiation with our TriField meters, 202 00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:12,333 so we got out of there. 203 00:09:12,417 --> 00:09:15,583 What we'll do is go forward very slowly. 204 00:09:15,708 --> 00:09:18,125 TRAVIS: But then, we reviewed the surveillance footage 205 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:20,542 that captured the moment of the cow's death 206 00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:22,583 and saw a UAP in the sky right above it. 207 00:09:22,708 --> 00:09:25,500 Since that day, we've wondered if we might have stopped 208 00:09:25,625 --> 00:09:27,667 a mutilation from happening. 209 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:29,667 But it's also very curious 210 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:31,708 that both the Bigelow team and our team 211 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:35,000 had cows die under very inexplicable circumstances 212 00:09:35,083 --> 00:09:37,500 right after we first began investigating phenomena 213 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:39,500 on Skinwalker Ranch. 214 00:09:39,625 --> 00:09:40,792 It made me wonder what other similarities 215 00:09:40,875 --> 00:09:42,958 we've both experienced. 216 00:09:43,042 --> 00:09:46,958 What's really interesting is, a lot of times when we do have 217 00:09:47,042 --> 00:09:49,833 these anomalies, we are detecting a strange signal 218 00:09:49,917 --> 00:09:53,583 that we can't identify at 1.6 something gigahertz. 219 00:09:53,708 --> 00:09:55,750 -Okay. -And, so, 220 00:09:55,875 --> 00:09:58,458 I guess the question we would have is, 221 00:09:58,583 --> 00:10:01,917 during the time that you guys were here, 222 00:10:02,042 --> 00:10:06,458 did you record or see things that looked like this signal 223 00:10:06,542 --> 00:10:08,292 at 1.6 gigahertz? 224 00:10:08,417 --> 00:10:10,333 Well, as you know, I've dealt 225 00:10:10,417 --> 00:10:12,667 with the UFO phenomena quite a bit, 226 00:10:12,750 --> 00:10:16,875 and-and that is one of the perplexing aspects, 227 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,958 is things like these sort of signals. 228 00:10:19,083 --> 00:10:23,167 And these things occur in many, many areas, 229 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:26,833 and why is it that we see things that shouldn't be there, 230 00:10:26,917 --> 00:10:29,125 and don't see things that we should see? 231 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:32,500 -Yup. -For instance, we would set up cameras, and say, 232 00:10:32,625 --> 00:10:35,000 "Okay, we're gonna... If it's happening here, 233 00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:37,000 we're gonna watch in that location," 234 00:10:37,125 --> 00:10:39,000 but you get nothing, 235 00:10:39,083 --> 00:10:40,833 and things would happen off camera. 236 00:10:40,958 --> 00:10:42,667 Sometimes the most important data 237 00:10:42,833 --> 00:10:44,167 are the ones we can't collect. 238 00:10:44,292 --> 00:10:46,833 The fact that something is interfering, which is 239 00:10:46,917 --> 00:10:49,167 -very often the case here. -JOHN: Right. 240 00:10:49,333 --> 00:10:51,500 ERIK: So, the other thing I wanted to ask you is, 241 00:10:51,625 --> 00:10:52,833 we've heard about opening portals. 242 00:10:52,917 --> 00:10:55,667 Uh, what can you tell us about those? 243 00:10:55,792 --> 00:10:58,833 The closest to what you're asking 244 00:10:58,917 --> 00:11:01,625 is the incident out at... near the second homestead. 245 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:04,333 You know, something moving through 246 00:11:04,458 --> 00:11:06,583 the Russian olives out there, 247 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:08,042 through the trees. 248 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:11,750 We were aware of kind of a slight distortion. 249 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:14,833 You didn't see a thing; it was more of distortions moving. 250 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:17,333 TRAVIS: After their investigation ended, 251 00:11:17,458 --> 00:11:19,500 the NIDS team put forth the idea 252 00:11:19,625 --> 00:11:22,000 that a portal connected to another dimension 253 00:11:22,125 --> 00:11:24,875 causes the phenomena that happened on the ranch. 254 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,458 I don't know if that could really explain 255 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:28,292 what's happened during our experiments, 256 00:11:28,417 --> 00:11:31,417 but we've seen some crazy stuff at Homestead Two as well. 257 00:11:31,542 --> 00:11:35,000 Last year, we used thermal imaging 258 00:11:35,167 --> 00:11:37,750 at night to capture a circular temperature vortex 259 00:11:37,875 --> 00:11:40,375 that was at least 20 degrees colder 260 00:11:40,542 --> 00:11:41,917 than any of its surroundings. 261 00:11:42,042 --> 00:11:43,917 Oh, whoa. 262 00:11:44,042 --> 00:11:46,250 And when we reviewed our footage, we saw something 263 00:11:46,375 --> 00:11:49,167 moving erratically in front of the homestead. 264 00:11:49,333 --> 00:11:52,000 Now, I'm still not ready to say a portal or a wormhole exists 265 00:11:52,125 --> 00:11:54,667 on Skinwalker Ranch, but it is amazing 266 00:11:54,792 --> 00:11:56,542 that other researchers 267 00:11:56,667 --> 00:11:58,375 and scientists believe that it could. 268 00:11:58,542 --> 00:12:01,667 So what I'm taking from this is that there is a long history 269 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:04,208 of unusual phenomena without an identifiable source 270 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:06,333 in this basin. 271 00:12:06,458 --> 00:12:11,042 And I'm learning that there were no answers produced 272 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:14,167 as a result of the previous research here. 273 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:17,667 -That's kind of surprising. -Right. 274 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:19,125 Because that burden that we're bearing today is 275 00:12:19,208 --> 00:12:22,167 that our own conclusions don't make sense to us yet. 276 00:12:22,292 --> 00:12:25,292 It's been a frustration, almost become a joke. 277 00:12:25,375 --> 00:12:27,458 Yes, but I think you're operating under the illusion 278 00:12:27,542 --> 00:12:28,833 that you're in control. 279 00:12:28,958 --> 00:12:31,625 You're not in control. 280 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:33,292 There's an "it" that's in control. 281 00:12:40,958 --> 00:12:44,417 Whatever "it" was seemed to know how we would respond 282 00:12:44,542 --> 00:12:47,125 before the event even occurred. 283 00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:50,000 It was not responding 284 00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:53,083 in a way that we would anticipate. 285 00:12:53,208 --> 00:12:55,417 And every time you tried to anticipate, 286 00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:59,042 it would just morph to something a little bit different. 287 00:12:59,208 --> 00:13:01,833 Like I say, you like that? Try this. 288 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,292 I'm really interested in how you arrived at that impression, 289 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:07,042 that overall assessment of what was going on here, 290 00:13:07,167 --> 00:13:10,625 from having experiments not go as you planned 291 00:13:10,750 --> 00:13:12,750 to there being an "it." 292 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,750 When a physical event had occurred, 293 00:13:15,875 --> 00:13:18,000 something would happen. 294 00:13:18,083 --> 00:13:20,250 Theoretically, can some of these happen, yes, 295 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:21,792 but when you look at it practically, 296 00:13:21,917 --> 00:13:23,625 it just makes no sense at all. 297 00:13:23,708 --> 00:13:27,000 It was when "it" decided 298 00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:30,917 to present us with something that the events occurred. 299 00:13:32,917 --> 00:13:34,583 We inherited this narrative 300 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:36,917 that it's dangerous to dig on the ranch. 301 00:13:37,042 --> 00:13:39,333 My question to you is, 302 00:13:39,417 --> 00:13:42,917 are you aware of any exercises during the Bigelow era 303 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:44,917 where they may have done experiments 304 00:13:45,042 --> 00:13:47,250 that included digging and watching? 305 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:49,167 I'm familiar with that. 306 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:52,792 The digging 307 00:13:52,917 --> 00:13:54,667 was to see if some sort 308 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:58,167 of phenomena would manifest itself. 309 00:13:58,292 --> 00:14:01,833 If we can do something that will cause a response. 310 00:14:01,958 --> 00:14:04,833 And sometimes incidents happen. 311 00:14:04,917 --> 00:14:07,542 While we've got you here, 312 00:14:07,667 --> 00:14:09,000 we could take you around 313 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:11,208 and show you some places on the ranch. 314 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,000 -You show us where you think things happened. -JOHN: Well, yeah, 315 00:14:13,125 --> 00:14:16,042 well, one of my areas of interest is revisiting 316 00:14:16,167 --> 00:14:18,042 -where some of these events took place at. -That would be great 317 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:19,667 -for you to tell us that. -BRYANT: That'd be helpful to us. 318 00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:20,875 -Yeah, that'd be very helpful. -So, uh, 319 00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:23,208 with that in mind, I think we should load up 320 00:14:23,333 --> 00:14:24,208 and head out. 321 00:14:27,208 --> 00:14:29,375 -This particular area is... -This is the triangle? 322 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,375 -Yeah, it's been... -The infamous triangle. 323 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:35,333 TRAVIS: I'll tell you, it's really more 324 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:39,125 about phenomena in the sky above the triangle than actually 325 00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:41,708 -on the triangle. -JOHN: Oh, yeah. 326 00:14:41,833 --> 00:14:44,083 TRAVIS: Colonel Alexander told us a lot of different stories 327 00:14:44,208 --> 00:14:46,875 about phenomena they had seen back in the Bigelow era. 328 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,500 So, what we thought was, him showing us 329 00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:52,375 where these things happened might give us some insight 330 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:54,208 of where we might want to do some experiments 331 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:57,333 to reproduce it and maybe capture some data. 332 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:01,167 -BRYANT: This place look familiar to you, John? -Oh, yes. 333 00:15:01,250 --> 00:15:03,958 BRYANT: The story that sticks with me is 334 00:15:04,042 --> 00:15:07,833 your account of the portal opening up. 335 00:15:07,958 --> 00:15:10,875 Oh, yes. Well, it was a little bit farther up. 336 00:15:14,292 --> 00:15:16,667 TRAVIS: Back in the NIDS days, multiple eyewitnesses 337 00:15:16,792 --> 00:15:18,500 have written about these phenomena. 338 00:15:18,625 --> 00:15:20,667 Maybe there is some connection 339 00:15:20,792 --> 00:15:23,083 with whatever these phenomena are, 340 00:15:23,208 --> 00:15:25,875 what they've seen in the past, and what we're seeing today. 341 00:15:28,792 --> 00:15:30,708 It was around this corner right here 342 00:15:30,833 --> 00:15:33,500 where we had the radiation spikes. 343 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:35,167 Uh, near this cistern. 344 00:15:35,250 --> 00:15:37,958 Well, that's interesting because this is one of the few areas 345 00:15:38,083 --> 00:15:40,583 I have some old pictures from. 346 00:15:40,708 --> 00:15:43,042 Y'all measured for gamma rays and stuff like that? 347 00:15:43,167 --> 00:15:45,333 Yeah, what... They used the TriField meters 348 00:15:45,417 --> 00:15:48,917 -and whatnot, but, uh... -You know why this is open? 349 00:15:49,042 --> 00:15:50,208 THOMAS: Do you know why that's open? 350 00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:52,458 I don't know why that's open, either. 351 00:15:54,542 --> 00:15:57,708 -BRYANT: I wonder who opened it up. -Uh... 352 00:15:57,833 --> 00:15:59,875 'Cause I don't... Someone's been here and opened this up. 353 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,875 It's always closed. 354 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,833 It usually is closed because we don't want anyone 355 00:16:05,917 --> 00:16:07,167 or anything falling in there. 356 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,333 Yeah, somebody's opened this up. 357 00:16:13,375 --> 00:16:16,333 TRAVIS: Two years ago, I was exposed to dangerous levels 358 00:16:16,458 --> 00:16:19,292 of ionizing radiation coming directly from this cistern 359 00:16:19,417 --> 00:16:22,708 that left burns on my hand and face. 360 00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:26,083 Ever since then, we've had radiation sensors placed 361 00:16:26,208 --> 00:16:28,708 all around the ranch just to be safe. 362 00:16:28,833 --> 00:16:31,792 And seeing the lid off this cistern is not just curious. 363 00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:33,708 It's concerning. 364 00:16:33,833 --> 00:16:35,583 -I don't know why... -That... 365 00:16:35,708 --> 00:16:36,958 It's heavy, too. It ain't just... 366 00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:38,250 -THOMAS: It is. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 367 00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:40,042 You got it, Tom? 368 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:41,917 Why is that open? 369 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:43,833 BRYANT: Somebody opened it. 370 00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:47,000 I'm just trying to figure out who. 371 00:16:47,125 --> 00:16:49,167 We need to get to the bottom of that. 372 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:51,083 Did y'all have weird stuff like that happen? 373 00:16:51,208 --> 00:16:53,875 You know, things being one orientation, 374 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,417 and you come back, and it's moved? 375 00:16:55,542 --> 00:16:59,167 Yeah, but it's... The problem was like this-- 376 00:16:59,292 --> 00:17:01,125 you notice it after the fact. 377 00:17:03,458 --> 00:17:05,667 So, where do you think the, uh, portal was? 378 00:17:05,792 --> 00:17:07,792 -From... out in the field. Yeah. -Oh, from out there? 379 00:17:07,917 --> 00:17:09,250 Oh, show us... show us where that is. 380 00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:15,375 Yeah, out in this general area. 381 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:19,000 And it's sort of moving through the treetops here. 382 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,417 Again, it was more of a distortion. 383 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:26,250 This was early evening. Our guys were down there, 384 00:17:26,375 --> 00:17:28,125 and it was kind of a disturbance. 385 00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:29,958 You didn't actually see a thing. 386 00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:31,625 It was more of distortions moving. 387 00:17:31,708 --> 00:17:34,333 BRYANT: Just so I'm clear, it was almost like 388 00:17:34,417 --> 00:17:36,875 -the cloaked movement... -Yeah, like something moving 389 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,042 -through the treetops. -BRYANT: Okay. 390 00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:39,458 -A disturbance... -BRYANT: Mm-hmm. 391 00:17:39,542 --> 00:17:42,417 ...in the visual spectrum as it goes across. 392 00:17:44,583 --> 00:17:46,167 They only were able to see it through the night vision 393 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:47,583 cameras? Is that correct? 394 00:17:47,708 --> 00:17:50,458 -Yeah. -Okay. 395 00:17:50,583 --> 00:17:51,917 -Okay. -Well. 396 00:17:52,042 --> 00:17:54,292 So, why don't we head that way? 397 00:17:54,375 --> 00:17:57,042 Let's go up through here so we can avoid the water. 398 00:17:57,167 --> 00:17:59,500 Okay, you lead the way, Thomas. 399 00:17:59,583 --> 00:18:02,667 It's a good thing to reach out to people that have been here 400 00:18:02,792 --> 00:18:04,458 and other research efforts to understand this place. 401 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:07,583 This is a strange place. Weird things happen. 402 00:18:07,708 --> 00:18:11,417 Anybody that has any insight-- that's gonna be useful data. 403 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:14,875 The caretakers that were here after, 404 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 uh, the Shermans left, had indicated that 405 00:18:18,125 --> 00:18:21,167 Bigelow's team-- they actually used a bulldozer, 406 00:18:21,292 --> 00:18:23,750 and done some trenches here in this field. 407 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,667 It was more a disturbance. 408 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:29,917 The intent was not to dig, per se. It was just, 409 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:32,375 we'll screw with things and see if... 410 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:35,083 -See if you could stimulate it? -Oh, yeah. 411 00:18:35,208 --> 00:18:36,625 To quote Travis, they were trying 412 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,000 to poke the hornet's nest? 413 00:18:38,125 --> 00:18:39,417 -Yeah. -I see. 414 00:18:39,542 --> 00:18:41,250 THOMAS: Do you know, did they ever feel 415 00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:44,542 like they got a response from any of that? 416 00:18:44,667 --> 00:18:48,292 Yeah. Well, we just discussed the one with the portal. 417 00:18:48,375 --> 00:18:51,833 -Yeah. -You get something like that... 418 00:18:51,917 --> 00:18:53,458 -Sure. -It wasn't like we tried 419 00:18:53,542 --> 00:18:56,167 to orchestrate the response. 420 00:18:56,250 --> 00:18:58,125 It was, do we get a response? 421 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:00,208 -What does that look like? -Okay. 422 00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:02,667 -Yeah. -Listening to you talk about it, you know, I... 423 00:19:02,792 --> 00:19:04,500 in the back of my mind I say, 424 00:19:04,625 --> 00:19:07,208 "Well, if Bigelow's team dug there once, 425 00:19:07,333 --> 00:19:09,625 "I want to go dig there again and see 426 00:19:09,708 --> 00:19:12,083 -if strange things happen." -TRAVIS: Right. 427 00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:14,167 We dig again to see if it's repeatable. 428 00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:15,917 -Yup. -THOMAS: And so, do you reckon 429 00:19:16,042 --> 00:19:18,125 that if we were to come in and dig again, 430 00:19:18,208 --> 00:19:19,958 we would get a response? 431 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,458 Um... don't know. 432 00:19:23,542 --> 00:19:25,542 Where you dig makes a difference. 433 00:19:27,042 --> 00:19:29,333 ERIK: Well, we find support for the idea that when 434 00:19:29,458 --> 00:19:33,667 we do things, we do see what we interpret as a response. 435 00:19:33,792 --> 00:19:36,000 -Right. -And so, that's what we're weighing out right now. 436 00:19:36,125 --> 00:19:37,667 How do we proceed with that? 437 00:19:37,792 --> 00:19:39,833 Well, while we've been standing here talking, 438 00:19:39,958 --> 00:19:42,042 I've been scanning over this field. 439 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:43,833 -Mm-hmm. -You know, for it being a level 440 00:19:43,958 --> 00:19:47,917 field, I see a pretty good bulldozer-width indentation 441 00:19:48,042 --> 00:19:50,000 right here between these two trees. 442 00:19:50,125 --> 00:19:51,667 -TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. -THOMAS: I think 443 00:19:51,792 --> 00:19:54,500 that that would be a great spot to come in and dig again. 444 00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:56,500 TRAVIS: Oh, that would be a real good idea. 445 00:19:56,625 --> 00:19:58,833 -Then see what happens with the front. -Yeah. 446 00:19:58,917 --> 00:20:02,125 Well, John, thank you so much for coming out here. 447 00:20:02,208 --> 00:20:04,875 I know we're losing daylight, so we want to get you back safely, 448 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,792 -so, if we pile in and head out? -Whenever you're ready, so... 449 00:20:06,917 --> 00:20:08,333 -Yeah, let's head back. -Okay, thank you. -Yeah. 450 00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:10,167 BRANDON: Colonel Alexander 451 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:11,833 and the previous team witnessed so many 452 00:20:11,958 --> 00:20:13,667 stunning events that really 453 00:20:13,792 --> 00:20:16,667 laid the foundation for the research 454 00:20:16,792 --> 00:20:19,875 that we took forward to present day. 455 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,417 The information and insight that he had shared with the team 456 00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:25,667 helped shape the nature of our investigation. 457 00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:28,333 ERIK: Well, we all got quite a bit on our plates. 458 00:20:35,792 --> 00:20:38,375 TRAVIS: After Colonel John Alexander told us 459 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,167 that the NIDS team dug near Homestead Two, 460 00:20:41,292 --> 00:20:43,167 and stimulated what they believed 461 00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:45,458 to be portal activity on the ranch, 462 00:20:45,542 --> 00:20:47,375 Thomas rented an industrial-sized bulldozer 463 00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:49,667 so we could dig in that exact same area 464 00:20:49,833 --> 00:20:51,167 to see what might happen. 465 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,750 Oh, here he comes. 466 00:20:54,875 --> 00:20:55,958 -what's up, Thomas? -BRYANT: How was... how was 467 00:20:56,042 --> 00:20:57,292 your sports car ride over here? 468 00:20:57,375 --> 00:20:58,667 -Rough. -BRYANT: Yeah, I'll bet. 469 00:20:58,833 --> 00:21:00,500 TRAVIS (laughing): I'll bet it was. 470 00:21:00,625 --> 00:21:03,083 So I'm thinking we just go down, what, four or five feet? 471 00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:05,167 That makes sense. The height of the blade or something, right? 472 00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,000 -Or until we hit water, I guess. -Yeah, yeah. 473 00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:08,333 I don't want to bury that. 474 00:21:08,417 --> 00:21:11,542 So you maybe take about a-a foot off first, 475 00:21:11,667 --> 00:21:14,083 and we can look at it, and then, take another couple of feet. 476 00:21:14,208 --> 00:21:15,792 -Oh, yeah. -Then maybe get down to where... 477 00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,583 -Maybe something like that? -Yeah, that sounds good. 478 00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:20,167 Well, it goes without saying, 479 00:21:20,292 --> 00:21:22,000 we need to just keep an eye on ourselves. 480 00:21:22,125 --> 00:21:24,000 If you start feeling anything funny, 481 00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:26,500 obviously, let somebody know, because 482 00:21:26,583 --> 00:21:29,208 when you dig, bad stuff actually does happens. 483 00:21:29,333 --> 00:21:31,500 THOMAS: Yeah, so if you guys see 484 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,375 -anything start to elevate, let me know... -Yeah. 485 00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:34,542 -and I'm gonna shut her down. -I'm gonna sit here and watch. 486 00:21:34,708 --> 00:21:36,167 I'm gonna sit here and watch constantly 487 00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:37,792 while you're doing it. I'm not gonna let you 488 00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:39,667 be out here digging without this... without one us 489 00:21:39,792 --> 00:21:41,083 -being out here with a Geiger counter. -Yeah. 490 00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:42,125 -Yeah. What are you reading? -Right now, 491 00:21:42,208 --> 00:21:43,375 we're at normal background. 492 00:21:43,542 --> 00:21:45,833 -12. Yeah. -12 micro? 493 00:21:45,917 --> 00:21:48,208 TRAVIS: As a precaution for this experiment, Erik had 494 00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,000 the spectrum analyzer scanning the area 495 00:21:50,167 --> 00:21:52,750 for the 1.6 gigahertz RF signal, 496 00:21:52,875 --> 00:21:56,375 and we both also had Geiger counter devices 497 00:21:56,542 --> 00:21:59,083 to look out for harmful spikes in gamma radiation. 498 00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:00,917 When we dug last year in the south field 499 00:22:01,042 --> 00:22:02,833 near where the cow died, 500 00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:05,750 we detected gamma rays three times the normal level. 501 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:08,625 All right, I think, uh... I think we got it covered. 502 00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:10,917 -Thomas, you ready to dig? -Yeah, I'm ready to dig. 503 00:22:16,792 --> 00:22:20,625 Rolling this D8 dozer across-- this is definitely 504 00:22:20,708 --> 00:22:23,083 the largest bulldozer that has ever been on Skinwalker Ranch. 505 00:22:27,542 --> 00:22:29,083 TRAVIS: Nothing unusual. 506 00:22:29,208 --> 00:22:30,333 THOMAS: After seeing 507 00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:31,542 some of the data that we've received 508 00:22:31,667 --> 00:22:33,375 after digging other holes on the ranch, 509 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,833 it'll be interesting to see what happens. 510 00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:40,458 That looks like that may be a little harder to dig, don't it? 511 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:41,833 KANDUS: It does. 512 00:22:43,667 --> 00:22:45,708 Hey, Dragon, Erik, y'all seeing anything? 513 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:49,333 Yeah. Me, either. 514 00:22:50,792 --> 00:22:52,458 (creaking) 515 00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:02,042 BRYANT: Ugh. That's not good. 516 00:23:02,167 --> 00:23:03,833 THOMAS: We really haven't 517 00:23:03,917 --> 00:23:05,625 even gotten that deep down in the soil 518 00:23:05,708 --> 00:23:08,292 when the bulldozer just bogs down and dies. 519 00:23:08,417 --> 00:23:12,000 This big of a dozer should be able to handle this very easily. 520 00:23:12,167 --> 00:23:14,625 It's just another event in a long list of experiments 521 00:23:14,708 --> 00:23:16,792 that haven't gone the way that we planned. 522 00:23:16,875 --> 00:23:20,708 So, guys, I didn't shut it off. It bogged down, and it-it died. 523 00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:23,750 But, uh, it's telling me it's got a dead battery. 524 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:25,833 BRYANT: Didn't they just put two new ones in it? 525 00:23:25,958 --> 00:23:27,292 -Like, an hour ago. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 526 00:23:27,375 --> 00:23:29,333 ERIK: I got to tell you, 527 00:23:29,417 --> 00:23:30,542 I wish I had a voltmeter out here. 528 00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,250 So why don't we run back 529 00:23:32,375 --> 00:23:33,750 -and get one just to see? -Yeah. -Yeah. 530 00:23:33,875 --> 00:23:35,625 It doesn't look like that's going anywhere. 531 00:23:35,708 --> 00:23:38,167 TRAVIS: It was like, here we go again. 532 00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:41,458 We just get started digging to stimulate a ranch response, 533 00:23:41,583 --> 00:23:44,750 and the fully-charged battery in the bulldozer dies. 534 00:23:44,875 --> 00:23:46,375 THOMAS: I'm gonna keep fidgeting around with this. 535 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:47,792 -TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah. All right. -Maybe it'll... 536 00:23:47,917 --> 00:23:49,500 Okay. 537 00:23:51,542 --> 00:23:54,667 -Man, were you expecting that? -No. 538 00:23:54,792 --> 00:23:57,625 TRAVIS: Was that the ranch responding? I don't know. 539 00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,792 So while Erik and Dragon went back 540 00:23:59,875 --> 00:24:01,542 to the command center to get his voltmeter, 541 00:24:01,708 --> 00:24:03,458 and also to process the collected data 542 00:24:03,542 --> 00:24:05,375 from gamma ray detector, 543 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,083 the rest of us hung back 544 00:24:07,208 --> 00:24:10,917 just in case something even more strange would happen next. 545 00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:16,125 ERIK: Hey, Bryant, 546 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,000 I want you to see this. 547 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,875 We've got a couple flavors of strangeness going here, Bryant. 548 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,125 -Look! What the actual hell is this? -What? 549 00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,667 ERIK: While the guys were trying to fix the bulldozer, 550 00:24:27,792 --> 00:24:29,750 I saw a massive spike in radiation 551 00:24:29,875 --> 00:24:32,833 in our gamma ray detectors stationed near Homestead Two 552 00:24:32,958 --> 00:24:35,583 in the area where they were digging. 553 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:38,208 It could be very dangerous for anyone in that location. 554 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:40,542 -This is not seven! -Is that 3400? 555 00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:42,792 It's almost 3500. 556 00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:46,500 These are very inexplicable spikes, 557 00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:49,125 as if something artificial could be generating them. 558 00:24:49,208 --> 00:24:52,500 -You got to get those people out of there. -Okay. 559 00:24:52,583 --> 00:24:54,833 ERIK: That... that's... 560 00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:03,542 What's wrong? 561 00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:06,917 Erik pulled the data. There was a spike at 3400. 562 00:25:07,042 --> 00:25:08,542 -3400? -3400. 563 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:11,500 Everybody out of here now! Everybody out. 564 00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:16,250 Erik just picked up a gamma ray source that was 3400 565 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:19,167 micro roentgen per hour. 566 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,417 That's a significant dose. 567 00:25:21,542 --> 00:25:24,250 That's enough dose ray that it could be dangerous. 568 00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:26,208 In terms of gamma rays, 569 00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:29,000 that's almost 300 times what would be normal and safe. 570 00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:30,667 You guys, come on. 571 00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:34,083 We had to immediately evacuate the area 572 00:25:34,208 --> 00:25:36,792 and go see if we could get to the bottom of what's going on. 573 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:39,167 BRYANT: Erik was like, "Go get 'em out of there." 574 00:25:40,833 --> 00:25:42,667 TRAVIS: What's going on, Erik? 575 00:25:42,792 --> 00:25:46,167 ERIK: Travis, you got to see this. 576 00:25:46,292 --> 00:25:47,667 You are not going to like it. 577 00:25:47,833 --> 00:25:49,667 I want you to see... This is what we just logged 578 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:52,250 in that field between Homestead Two and Homestead Three. 579 00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:53,667 -Okay, now, look. -Holy... 580 00:25:53,792 --> 00:25:55,042 -Look what we got. -Yeah. 581 00:25:55,167 --> 00:25:57,083 -And I want you to see... -Look at that. 582 00:25:57,208 --> 00:26:01,167 ERIK: It's-it's almost 3,500 micro roentgens per hour. 583 00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:03,958 Now get this. You've got other strange behavior here that... 584 00:26:04,042 --> 00:26:06,833 -TRAVIS: Uh-oh. Zeroes. Yeah. -Zeroes. 585 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,667 -Something has interfered... -TRAVIS: Oh. 586 00:26:08,792 --> 00:26:10,833 ...with the data collection process. 587 00:26:10,958 --> 00:26:12,333 -TRAVIS: There's three hours missing here. -It's gone. 588 00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,833 It's gone. 589 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,917 TRAVIS: What's really weird is, 590 00:26:16,042 --> 00:26:18,625 there was a big spike in the gamma rays, 591 00:26:18,750 --> 00:26:21,958 and then, there was a complete hole in the data, 592 00:26:22,042 --> 00:26:25,625 meaning the meter said zero radiation. 593 00:26:25,708 --> 00:26:27,292 A gamma ray detector can't do that. 594 00:26:27,417 --> 00:26:29,083 Even if you put it in a lead box, 595 00:26:29,208 --> 00:26:33,083 it's still gonna give you some background reading, not zero. 596 00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:36,583 Here's the thing. So, either we're getting 597 00:26:36,708 --> 00:26:39,875 these horrible gamma rays 598 00:26:40,042 --> 00:26:41,417 -at this level... -TOM: Okay. -KANDUS: Yeah. 599 00:26:41,542 --> 00:26:43,292 ...or something's hacking us. 600 00:26:43,417 --> 00:26:45,625 Either one isn't good, but 601 00:26:45,708 --> 00:26:46,958 we got to treat it like it's the gamma rays 602 00:26:47,042 --> 00:26:48,500 'cause that's the most dangerous right now. 603 00:26:48,583 --> 00:26:51,125 If this is saying, "Don't dig here," 604 00:26:51,208 --> 00:26:52,667 then that's the big, blinky sign that says, 605 00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:54,667 we need to dig right there. 606 00:26:54,792 --> 00:26:56,750 -Right. -And that's what I've said from day one. 607 00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:58,667 And I guess... this only reinforces that. 608 00:26:58,792 --> 00:27:00,792 My question in response is, 609 00:27:00,875 --> 00:27:02,625 what is the smartest way to follow up, 610 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:04,833 and what is the safest way to follow up? 611 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 TRAVIS: Well, the smartest, safest way, the first thing 612 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:10,667 we got to do is, we need to determine 613 00:27:10,792 --> 00:27:12,500 -what this is, right? -TOM: Mm-hmm. 614 00:27:12,625 --> 00:27:14,667 If something was to happen 615 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:18,917 to any of us, I mean, this is bad stuff. 616 00:27:19,042 --> 00:27:21,208 TRAVIS: Now that the radiation levels are back 617 00:27:21,333 --> 00:27:23,833 to normal, I think we should wait until tonight, 618 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,667 and go back out there to see what else we can stimulate. 619 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:28,833 We'll be careful like Dragon wants, 620 00:27:28,958 --> 00:27:31,417 monitoring the whole time with Geiger counters 621 00:27:31,542 --> 00:27:32,667 and the spectrum analyzer, 622 00:27:32,792 --> 00:27:34,875 but we need to keep poking this nest 623 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,292 to see what we can reveal about Skinwalker Ranch. 624 00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,458 To be honest, I'm not worried about going back out there, 625 00:27:40,542 --> 00:27:43,125 if you're there monitoring. 626 00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,667 All right, great. 627 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,167 Thanks, Erik. 628 00:27:50,125 --> 00:27:52,958 TRAVIS: Yeah, right in here in all these damn weeds. 629 00:27:53,042 --> 00:27:55,000 We waited until nightfall 630 00:27:55,125 --> 00:27:57,000 to go back out near Homestead Two 631 00:27:57,167 --> 00:27:59,708 to see if we could stimulate more phenomena to appear 632 00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:01,667 that might prove or disprove 633 00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:04,125 Colonel Alexander and NIDS' theory 634 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,792 that a portal might exist on Skinwalker Ranch. 635 00:28:06,875 --> 00:28:09,417 All right, I want to get where I can see the bulldozer. 636 00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:10,792 THOMAS: Well, I think we can see it... 637 00:28:12,292 --> 00:28:14,333 -Yeah, it's right there. -BRYANT: Yeah, there it is. 638 00:28:14,458 --> 00:28:17,000 Let's get our stuff set up. 639 00:28:17,167 --> 00:28:20,208 Now, the plan was to set up a safe distance 640 00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:22,000 from the dead bulldozer 641 00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,542 and use what's become our tried-and-true method 642 00:28:24,667 --> 00:28:25,333 for stimulating phenomena. 643 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:26,500 Watch your hand. 644 00:28:26,625 --> 00:28:27,500 TRAVIS: Launching a rocket. 645 00:28:27,583 --> 00:28:29,833 We are ready to launch! 646 00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,833 We also set up a spectrum analyzer to look out 647 00:28:32,917 --> 00:28:34,000 for any strange RF energy. 648 00:28:34,125 --> 00:28:36,167 Okay, so this is up and running. 649 00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:37,458 And we put a Geiger counter right next 650 00:28:37,542 --> 00:28:39,250 to the stalled bulldozer 651 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:41,167 to check for any more dangerous gamma rays. 652 00:28:41,292 --> 00:28:44,167 -That's really, really low. -Good. That makes me happy. 653 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:45,917 TRAVIS: We also brought out 654 00:28:46,042 --> 00:28:48,000 a night vision monocular scope so that 655 00:28:48,167 --> 00:28:49,875 we could safely observe from a distance 656 00:28:50,042 --> 00:28:52,708 if anything weird happened over there. 657 00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:54,167 At this stage in the investigation, 658 00:28:54,292 --> 00:28:57,042 safety was still paramount, as always. 659 00:28:57,167 --> 00:28:58,583 Going hot! 660 00:28:58,708 --> 00:29:00,375 But we all agree that we need 661 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,917 to be aggressive in order to get some answers. 662 00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:05,000 -Thomas, you ready? -Yeah, whenever you are. 663 00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:08,583 All right, here we go. Five, 664 00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:11,250 four, three, 665 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:13,458 two, 666 00:29:13,542 --> 00:29:15,708 one. 667 00:29:22,958 --> 00:29:24,625 -THOMAS: Oh, got the chute. -TRAVIS: We got the chute! 668 00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:26,917 It's coming down right over here. 669 00:29:27,042 --> 00:29:29,667 THOMAS: Coming down fast. 670 00:29:29,792 --> 00:29:33,000 The chute hasn't opened. 671 00:29:33,125 --> 00:29:34,417 Boom! 672 00:29:35,625 --> 00:29:37,167 TRAVIS: Now, Kaleb, you got it? 673 00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:40,125 Oh, yeah, it landed right in a tree. 674 00:29:40,208 --> 00:29:43,750 THOMAS: I'm looking for any UAPs. 675 00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:47,500 TRAVIS: I don't see nothing. 676 00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:49,625 While Kaleb's getting that, I'm gonna go over here and check 677 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:51,042 the instruments and stuff. 678 00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:53,208 He may need some help. I don't know. 679 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:55,000 Kaleb, you need help? 680 00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:57,833 I got it. 681 00:29:57,958 --> 00:30:01,083 I can't figure out why the chute didn't open, though. 682 00:30:01,208 --> 00:30:03,625 Erik, are you doing something at 1.6? 683 00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,875 I'm not broadcasting. 684 00:30:06,042 --> 00:30:07,333 THOMAS: What are you seeing? 685 00:30:07,417 --> 00:30:09,250 TRAVIS: A signal? 686 00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:12,792 1.60000... 687 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:15,833 When the chute failed to open, 688 00:30:15,917 --> 00:30:17,833 and the rocket crashed down near the homestead, 689 00:30:17,958 --> 00:30:19,500 I didn't want to jump to conclusions, 690 00:30:19,667 --> 00:30:21,208 but then, right on cue, 691 00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,708 Erik's spectrum analyzer registered that freaky, 692 00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:26,875 1.6 gigahertz energy level that has coincided 693 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,042 with almost every phenomenon we've witnessed out here. 694 00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:33,625 -You want me sweeping around? It's... -Yeah, yeah, I do. 695 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:35,792 Something was starting to happen. 696 00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:39,542 Oh, whoa, whoa! Right there. 697 00:30:39,667 --> 00:30:42,250 The one signal went away. 698 00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,167 Go back the other way. 699 00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:47,125 Well, it's coming back. Oh, right there, right there. Stop. 700 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:49,208 -So, it's very directional? -TRAVIS: Yes. 701 00:30:50,417 --> 00:30:52,000 That's southwest. 702 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:53,667 That's right where the rocket just went. 703 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:55,500 Yeah. 704 00:30:55,583 --> 00:30:57,875 Are you kidding me? 705 00:30:58,042 --> 00:30:59,875 Thomas's thought to turn the antenna 706 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,292 connected to the spectrum analyzer 707 00:31:02,417 --> 00:31:05,083 was brilliant because it clearly showed us 708 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,000 that the 1.6 gigahertz signal 709 00:31:07,125 --> 00:31:09,667 was coming from the same direction in the sky 710 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:12,292 that the rocket had just flown through. 711 00:31:12,417 --> 00:31:14,333 The question was, what the hell was it? 712 00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:17,083 Let me... let me go up and down with it. 713 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:21,958 TRAVIS: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop. 714 00:31:24,292 --> 00:31:27,833 Suddenly, two signals right when you did that. 715 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000 So, look, we've got three peaks. 716 00:31:30,167 --> 00:31:32,792 THOMAS: That means nothing to me. 717 00:31:32,917 --> 00:31:34,083 Well, it doesn't mean a lot to us except, 718 00:31:34,208 --> 00:31:35,583 usually, if it's a communication signal, 719 00:31:35,708 --> 00:31:36,875 you'll see one big one in the middle 720 00:31:37,042 --> 00:31:38,667 and then, two smaller ones on the side. 721 00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:39,625 -ERIK: At equal distances. -TRAVIS: And that's kind of 722 00:31:39,708 --> 00:31:41,000 what we're seeing, 723 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:42,375 but this one's coming and going, which is odd. 724 00:31:44,042 --> 00:31:46,917 -Want to try and listen to it? -ERIK: Yeah. 725 00:31:47,042 --> 00:31:48,542 (high-pitched static) 726 00:31:52,917 --> 00:31:56,125 It's chirping in frequency. 727 00:31:56,208 --> 00:31:59,792 That's a communication signal or something. 728 00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:02,208 -That's... -ERIK: So all that disappears 729 00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,292 -when you go off down here? -Yeah, yeah. 730 00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,083 I mean, it's got to be right there, and... 731 00:32:06,208 --> 00:32:09,167 I mean, it's got to... It's a small, a very small cone. 732 00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:10,792 ERIK: That's interesting. 733 00:32:10,917 --> 00:32:13,958 So, if it were a deep sky object, 734 00:32:14,042 --> 00:32:16,167 -in 15 minutes, it'd be gone. -Mm-hmm. 735 00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,125 Because of the rotation of the Earth. 736 00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:19,792 From my experience as a rocket scientist, 737 00:32:19,875 --> 00:32:22,167 this sound frequency was 738 00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:24,333 like the kind of communication signal you would get 739 00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:26,250 from a satellite orbiting the Earth, 740 00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:28,458 or even farther out in space. 741 00:32:28,583 --> 00:32:30,083 Listen to that! 742 00:32:30,208 --> 00:32:31,958 But the signal was coming from the area 743 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,583 above the ranch where we shot the rocket, 744 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:37,542 and it was pointed directly at Homestead Two. 745 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,167 So, what would be broadcasting a communication signal 746 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:44,167 like that, and where could it be coming from? 747 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,875 Okay, so you say it's pointed 748 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,333 to where we just shot the rocket. 749 00:32:47,417 --> 00:32:49,208 So, what? That's our message, 750 00:32:49,333 --> 00:32:51,375 and this is the message coming back? 751 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:56,125 I mean, I know that's a stretch, but (bleep), after everything 752 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:58,125 that's gone down today, I have no clue. 753 00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,167 That's not a... I don't know. 754 00:33:00,292 --> 00:33:03,000 I swear that sounds like a communication signal. 755 00:33:03,125 --> 00:33:04,750 (high-pitched static) 756 00:33:04,875 --> 00:33:06,875 (static stops) 757 00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:08,583 ERIK: It stopped. 758 00:33:17,125 --> 00:33:19,167 I don't know what elsep to say about it. I mean, 759 00:33:19,292 --> 00:33:21,917 everything's been quiet, except for that thing. 760 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,833 But, yeah, the Geiger counter hadn't had a single 761 00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:27,792 thing over, like, 15 or 16 all night. 762 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,458 -Good. -I know. (laughs) 763 00:33:29,542 --> 00:33:31,375 -Good. -Right? 764 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:33,833 Uh, confusing, but good. 765 00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:36,042 We've had a hell of a day. 766 00:33:36,208 --> 00:33:38,333 TRAVIS: That mysterious 1.6 gigahertz 767 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,417 frequency sound suddenly stopped. 768 00:33:41,542 --> 00:33:44,583 Now, I'm not sure, but to me, it sounded like some sort 769 00:33:44,708 --> 00:33:46,333 of communication signal. 770 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,542 It's crazy to think about, but we need to try 771 00:33:48,667 --> 00:33:51,000 and figure out what in the heck it could be 772 00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:53,333 and why we're receiving it. 773 00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:55,792 All right, well, let's-let's load up. 774 00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,250 -All right. -Okay. 775 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:05,958 TRAVIS: What's going on, Erik? 776 00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:08,667 -Well, I'm looking through some footage. -Yeah? 777 00:34:08,792 --> 00:34:10,667 Yeah, I've got something to show you. 778 00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:12,667 TRAVIS: The day after our night experiment 779 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,917 at Homestead Two, Erik called us in to review something 780 00:34:15,042 --> 00:34:16,500 in his surveillance footage 781 00:34:16,625 --> 00:34:20,000 that got him both excited and a little freaked out. 782 00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:21,667 You know, we've got all these new cameras out 783 00:34:21,792 --> 00:34:23,708 at the homesteads, so, you know, 784 00:34:23,833 --> 00:34:26,542 I-I get plenty of critter activity. 785 00:34:26,667 --> 00:34:28,167 We have a lot deer, we have a lot of... 786 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,875 At night, we have birds 787 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,500 and bats, especially. 788 00:34:31,625 --> 00:34:33,333 But between all of that, 789 00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:35,792 once in a while, we get some things that just don't fit in. 790 00:34:35,917 --> 00:34:38,542 You know? You know what it looks like when you've got a, 791 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:41,708 you know, moth, or a, you know, some kind of insect, or 792 00:34:41,833 --> 00:34:44,083 a piece of debris flying across your field of view. 793 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:46,750 But I've got something here that doesn't fit in. 794 00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,458 -Really? -Yeah. 795 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:51,667 It happened just last night after our experiment. 796 00:34:51,833 --> 00:34:54,500 I'm gonna play this real time. 797 00:34:54,583 --> 00:34:58,167 BRYANT: So, what camera are we looking at specifically here? 798 00:34:58,292 --> 00:35:00,500 This is out at the Carriage House. 799 00:35:00,583 --> 00:35:02,833 Now, Car... That's the thing across the road 800 00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:04,667 -from Homestead Two, right? -Yeah. 801 00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:06,792 So, looking back toward Homestead Two? It's that one? 802 00:35:06,875 --> 00:35:08,625 -Yeah. -Okay, so across the canal. 803 00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:10,083 Yeah. 804 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:16,083 TRAVIS: What on Earth is that? 805 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:18,792 What the hell is that? 806 00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:20,583 Okay, so, let's play this through, 807 00:35:20,708 --> 00:35:23,708 and I really want your thoughts on what this might be. 808 00:35:23,875 --> 00:35:27,042 TRAVIS: Oh, it's behind the tree, so it's far enough away. 809 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:28,667 ERIK: Right. 810 00:35:28,792 --> 00:35:30,583 -Play that again. -ERIK: Sure. 811 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,250 THOMAS: You can see the other particles around. 812 00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:35,417 TRAVIS: So, it's leaving a trail. 813 00:35:35,542 --> 00:35:37,625 -Go back, Erik. Go back... -ERIK: Sure. 814 00:35:37,708 --> 00:35:39,917 -about, um... -Sure. Yeah, point out the trail. 815 00:35:40,042 --> 00:35:41,625 Is that camera lag? 816 00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:43,000 -ERIK: It could be. -Stop right there. 817 00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:44,375 ERIK: Uh-huh. 818 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,292 You can even see the trail behind it. 819 00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:46,917 Now let it... watch it go. 820 00:35:47,042 --> 00:35:48,208 It leaves a trail behind it as it goes. 821 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,750 -All right, stop. You see it? -ERIK: Sure. 822 00:35:52,875 --> 00:35:55,125 TRAVIS: You see it back there? 823 00:35:55,208 --> 00:35:57,083 Now, what's the frame rate of this camera? 824 00:35:57,208 --> 00:36:00,417 Um, these are set, I believe, to 24. I... 825 00:36:00,542 --> 00:36:03,375 -Well, that's not moving much faster than that. -No. 826 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,792 So it shouldn't be causing frame delay. 827 00:36:06,917 --> 00:36:08,958 -ERIK: I mean, there's frame rate... -There's a black line 828 00:36:09,042 --> 00:36:10,417 through the center of this thing. 829 00:36:10,542 --> 00:36:12,542 -ERIK: Interesting. -TRAVIS: If you look, 830 00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:15,000 there's a line going right through the center of it. 831 00:36:15,083 --> 00:36:17,042 And it's like this. 832 00:36:17,208 --> 00:36:19,000 So, let it play and see if it continues. 833 00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:22,042 ERIK: Okay. Yeah. 834 00:36:22,167 --> 00:36:23,792 TRAVIS: Yeah, it stays through it. 835 00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:28,500 -Let it keep going. -ERIK: Okay. 836 00:36:28,625 --> 00:36:31,917 TRAVIS: So it's not a bug inside the field of view 837 00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:33,625 because it goes behind this tree, right? 838 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:36,250 BRYANT: Well, it's not... Look at the bugs, Travis. 839 00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:37,500 -You can see the bugs zooming by. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 840 00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,542 BRYANT: This thing looks like a balloon 841 00:36:39,667 --> 00:36:42,167 -floating around on the wind. -Yeah, and then it goes 842 00:36:42,292 --> 00:36:44,417 behind the tree over here. 843 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:48,000 -ERIK: Yeah, but the movement is ver... -BRYANT: Yeah, that one. 844 00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:49,500 ERIK: ...is very organic, I would say. 845 00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,875 It's-it's irregular, it's not even just 846 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,667 smoothly moving through the scene. 847 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:54,583 Well, the interesting thing is, you look at the grass 848 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:56,375 and the trees. 849 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:59,167 I don't see really any wind, you know? 850 00:36:59,333 --> 00:37:02,625 -ERIK: Good point. -BRYANT: And so you see it, it drifts over to the right with 851 00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:05,250 no wind going that direction, and then it drifts and 852 00:37:05,375 --> 00:37:07,125 just slowly-- Like I said, it almost looks like 853 00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:09,750 a balloon just floating around. 854 00:37:09,875 --> 00:37:12,333 THOMAS: That's not being affected by the same forces 855 00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:14,333 that are carrying the rest of it. 856 00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,500 It's not a balloon, because a balloon would have 857 00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:20,083 been more stochastically, nautically moving about. 858 00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:25,542 And that looks like it's moving with intent. 859 00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:27,917 Comes along, decides it doesn't want to be here, 860 00:37:28,042 --> 00:37:29,625 and it decides to go off this way. 861 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:31,083 This is unique. 862 00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:32,375 -I... -BRYANT: You know, and it's... 863 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,833 I don't think I've seen anything-- 864 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,458 You've never shown me anything close to that. 865 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:37,708 Well, it goes in front of those trees and behind 866 00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:42,083 that tree, so that tells us it's at least 30 feet away. 867 00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:45,333 So it's about the size of a volleyball. 868 00:37:45,458 --> 00:37:48,292 Think of it this way. In one night, one span there, 869 00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:51,833 we see a strange communication beam, 870 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,708 and then we see this thing. 871 00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:56,750 Is there a connection? 872 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:05,958 What's particularly bizarre about this phenomenon 873 00:38:06,042 --> 00:38:08,000 is it happened just after our rocket experiment 874 00:38:08,083 --> 00:38:09,458 at Homestead Two 875 00:38:09,542 --> 00:38:11,667 when we heard that really strange 876 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:15,458 1.6 gigahertz signal. It all looks to be connected. 877 00:38:15,542 --> 00:38:17,208 I just don't know how or why yet. 878 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:20,125 In the beginning, it almost looks like it changes 879 00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:21,417 shape a little bit to me. 880 00:38:21,542 --> 00:38:23,167 THOMAS: Is it more, though, that, 881 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:26,333 looking at the end would be a circle, 882 00:38:26,417 --> 00:38:29,250 but then as it turns, a cigar shape, 883 00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:31,208 because you're getting more of a 3D... 884 00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:33,875 Just like this, right? If you're looking at this 885 00:38:34,042 --> 00:38:36,083 -end on, you think it's a circle, right? -Sure. 886 00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:38,875 If you look at it like this, it's like a line or something, 887 00:38:39,042 --> 00:38:40,333 you know, cigar-shaped. 888 00:38:40,417 --> 00:38:42,333 I'll tell you what it reminds me of. 889 00:38:42,458 --> 00:38:45,292 The Tic Tac, the UAP video. 890 00:38:45,417 --> 00:38:47,500 The UAP that appeared in 891 00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:49,458 the Tic Tac video that was recorded by 892 00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:52,167 the USS Nimitz group in 2004 893 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,542 appeared to be cigar-shaped when viewed from certain angles. 894 00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,792 But it was reported to look more spherical by the Navy pilots 895 00:38:58,875 --> 00:39:00,667 when it flew straight towards them. 896 00:39:00,792 --> 00:39:04,375 Do any of those objects move around so organically, like-- 897 00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:06,458 -as we see here? -Yes, and they amorphously 898 00:39:06,542 --> 00:39:09,667 change shape, depending on the direction they turn. 899 00:39:09,792 --> 00:39:13,625 So, we've measured a signal many times when we've seen 900 00:39:13,708 --> 00:39:18,500 phenomena occur specifically around 1.6 gigahertz. 901 00:39:18,583 --> 00:39:21,250 We're seeing whatever this thing is, 902 00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:23,125 and interestedly enough, 903 00:39:23,208 --> 00:39:28,792 at the same instant, we see this signal at 1.6 gigahertz. 904 00:39:28,917 --> 00:39:30,417 It's pretty bizarre. 905 00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,292 It's crazy is what it is. 906 00:39:33,375 --> 00:39:35,167 I don't know what to say of this, 907 00:39:35,292 --> 00:39:39,208 but I would say you've captured a UAP on camera here, Erik, 908 00:39:39,375 --> 00:39:41,500 and we don't know what it is. 909 00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:43,875 Well, this is just one more case of 910 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,833 strange activity out at the homesteads. 911 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,333 You know, Homestead Two is a place where we see 912 00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,250 a lot of this stuff. 913 00:39:49,375 --> 00:39:51,208 So, I'm not going to be satisfied 914 00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:52,625 until I've spent some time doing 915 00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:54,167 -some image processing on this. -Sure. 916 00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:55,208 And I'll come back to you guys and 917 00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:56,542 let you know if I find anything. 918 00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:59,125 All right. Thanks, guys. Good job, Erik. 919 00:40:00,583 --> 00:40:03,917 ERIK: Our fascination, our speculation about the ranch 920 00:40:04,042 --> 00:40:06,458 phenomenon and about how the ranch fits into 921 00:40:06,583 --> 00:40:09,208 the larger picture has only been elevated. 922 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,333 We realize we're not dealing with a simple 923 00:40:11,458 --> 00:40:14,042 problem set, but one that is very complex. 924 00:40:14,208 --> 00:40:17,333 TRAVIS: All of this new data that we have tells us there are 925 00:40:17,458 --> 00:40:19,542 some really weird anomalies. 926 00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:21,000 We don't know what's causing that. 927 00:40:21,083 --> 00:40:23,292 There's so much data. 928 00:40:23,417 --> 00:40:25,833 What is the next level of experimentation 929 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,958 that we need to do to determine what this is? 930 00:40:29,042 --> 00:40:31,792 You can't just go dig everywhere under the ranch to find this. 931 00:40:31,875 --> 00:40:34,833 We're gonna have to find a better way to look deeper 932 00:40:34,917 --> 00:40:37,167 under the surface to figure out what's causing that. 933 00:40:37,292 --> 00:40:39,958 BRANDON: The presence of a signal or a frequency 934 00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:42,833 that seems to attend the events and the activities 935 00:40:42,917 --> 00:40:45,875 on the property may be our greatest discovery yet. 936 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,583 I had always hoped that these activities would lead 937 00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,417 to our ability to hopefully communicate 938 00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:56,167 with the entities involved with the ranch. 939 00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:59,000 Now, I believe what we may be seeing is 940 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:00,875 communication back to us 941 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:03,125 in ways that we had not anticipated 942 00:41:03,208 --> 00:41:04,792 here at Skinwalker Ranch. 943 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:10,750 It looks like something's collapsed here. 944 00:41:10,875 --> 00:41:13,750 That tells me that was done to hide something. 945 00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:17,042 There was an area I found on this mesa slope, 946 00:41:17,167 --> 00:41:18,750 and it lead to this open cave. 947 00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:20,583 I'm pretty sure this is it. 948 00:41:20,708 --> 00:41:23,417 What were they hiding in that mesa? 949 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:27,042 Popping smoke. Look, look, it's getting sucked in. 950 00:41:27,167 --> 00:41:29,542 You guys really stirred the old hornet's nest. 951 00:41:29,708 --> 00:41:32,125 -Look, they're movin'. -ERIK: I've never seen this many 952 00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:33,458 mysterious lights in the sky. 953 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:38,708 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 76683

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