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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:05,417 We've got a Gulfstream GV doing a survey pattern. 2 00:00:05,542 --> 00:00:07,958 -BRANDON: We're being monitored. -And for what purpose? 3 00:00:08,042 --> 00:00:10,292 We're 1,600 feet above the ground. 4 00:00:10,375 --> 00:00:13,458 ERIK: Bryant and Travis will be releasing the GPS trackers. 5 00:00:13,583 --> 00:00:15,792 -THOMAS: It's in the air. -ERIK: Where'd it go? 6 00:00:15,917 --> 00:00:17,125 -Where'd it go? -THOMAS: It disappeared. 7 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:19,750 So, we have a region 8 00:00:19,875 --> 00:00:23,167 in altitude that tells us there's some kind of phenomenon 9 00:00:23,292 --> 00:00:26,125 taking place right here over the triangle. 10 00:00:27,292 --> 00:00:30,708 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 11 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:33,292 It is considered the epicenter 12 00:00:33,375 --> 00:00:38,000 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 13 00:00:38,125 --> 00:00:40,500 animal mutilations, 14 00:00:40,583 --> 00:00:42,583 bizarre UFO sightings 15 00:00:42,708 --> 00:00:47,583 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 16 00:00:47,708 --> 00:00:50,167 For 20 years, the federal government 17 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:53,750 tried to find answers and failed. 18 00:00:53,875 --> 00:00:58,042 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 19 00:00:58,167 --> 00:01:02,083 researchers and experts has taken over. 20 00:01:02,208 --> 00:01:05,750 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 21 00:01:08,375 --> 00:01:12,083 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 22 00:01:21,167 --> 00:01:22,250 -Oh, here they are. -Yeah. 23 00:01:22,375 --> 00:01:24,917 TRAVIS: Last week, we conducted an aerial drop 24 00:01:25,042 --> 00:01:27,083 of GPS units into that mile-high zone 25 00:01:27,208 --> 00:01:28,667 above the triangle area 26 00:01:28,792 --> 00:01:30,667 on Skinwalker Ranch where we keep detecting 27 00:01:30,792 --> 00:01:32,750 these strange energy spikes. 28 00:01:32,875 --> 00:01:34,917 Holy cow, look at that. 29 00:01:35,042 --> 00:01:36,750 But something that we couldn't see 30 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:39,958 actually deflected the payloads away from the zone. 31 00:01:40,042 --> 00:01:42,083 So we decided to conduct a new experiment 32 00:01:42,208 --> 00:01:44,833 to launch rockets up into that same zone 33 00:01:44,958 --> 00:01:48,292 just to figure out what could have caused that to happen. 34 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:51,583 And hopefully we can stimulate new aerial phenomena to appear, 35 00:01:51,708 --> 00:01:52,875 like we have in the past. 36 00:01:53,042 --> 00:01:54,333 -Howdy. -Good to meet you. 37 00:01:54,417 --> 00:01:56,333 TRAVIS: To help us do that we invited 38 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,500 a very specialized team of researchers out to the ranch 39 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:01,958 from an organization known as UAPx. 40 00:02:02,083 --> 00:02:03,250 Well, welcome to the Ranch. 41 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:04,667 -Thank you. -Excited to have you. 42 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:06,250 Excited to be here. 43 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:07,875 It's pretty overwhelming. 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,583 JEREMY: Excited. A little apprehensive. 45 00:02:09,708 --> 00:02:11,833 -But, uh, happy to be here. -BRYANT: Well, rightly so. 46 00:02:11,917 --> 00:02:15,500 TRAVIS: Jason Turner, Gary Voorhis and Jeremy McGowan 47 00:02:15,583 --> 00:02:17,667 have all not only had esteemed careers 48 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:18,833 in the U.S. military, 49 00:02:18,917 --> 00:02:22,333 but Jason and Gary were closely involved in one of 50 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:24,792 the biggest documented UAP events in history. 51 00:02:24,875 --> 00:02:28,500 The so-called Tic Tac video that was captured in 2004 52 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:32,000 by Navy personnel on the USS Nimitz and the USS Princeton 53 00:02:32,125 --> 00:02:37,167 and released to the public by The New York Times in 2017. 54 00:02:38,417 --> 00:02:41,333 JASON: In 2004, I was a logistics specialist 55 00:02:41,417 --> 00:02:43,292 on board the USS Princeton. 56 00:02:43,417 --> 00:02:45,500 Well, it started off as just a regular day. We were... 57 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:48,292 everybody was going through their work-up cycle, 58 00:02:48,375 --> 00:02:52,500 getting their qualifications, and there had been talk 59 00:02:52,625 --> 00:02:55,333 around the ship that-that something was going on. 60 00:02:55,417 --> 00:02:58,167 I was in the right place at the right time 61 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:00,833 and happened to be up in SSES, 62 00:03:00,958 --> 00:03:03,125 which is a Ship's Signal Exploitation Space. 63 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:06,625 When I walked in, I saw the actual video. 64 00:03:08,708 --> 00:03:11,833 In the video, the Tic Tac is what we described and looked at. 65 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:14,083 It was an oblong-shaped vehicle. 66 00:03:14,208 --> 00:03:16,792 White in color. No wings. 67 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:19,875 No windows. No propulsion. 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,458 But yet it could move sideways, up, down, left, right. 69 00:03:22,542 --> 00:03:24,417 And one of the jets actually engaged 70 00:03:24,542 --> 00:03:27,333 to go get a closer look exactly what it was. 71 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,500 At that point, the small, white, Tic Tac-shaped object 72 00:03:30,625 --> 00:03:33,083 then reacted to our interrogation 73 00:03:33,208 --> 00:03:35,917 by starting to fly at our jet. 74 00:03:37,542 --> 00:03:39,417 I-It scared the heck out of our pilot, 75 00:03:39,542 --> 00:03:43,625 but it basically flew circles around it. 76 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:46,667 So, we as humans can travel from one spot to another, 77 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:49,125 but we have to accelerate to get there 78 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:51,000 and then decelerate to stop. 79 00:03:51,083 --> 00:03:52,875 So, this thing would start. 80 00:03:53,042 --> 00:03:54,958 It would make its mind up of how fast it was gonna go. 81 00:03:55,042 --> 00:03:58,042 There was no acceleration. It was just one speed 82 00:03:58,167 --> 00:04:00,333 from start to finish. 83 00:04:00,458 --> 00:04:02,333 GARY: You know, I knew innately 84 00:04:02,458 --> 00:04:03,958 that it wasn't natural the way that it moved 85 00:04:04,042 --> 00:04:06,708 or that, you know, it shouldn't be possible to do that, 86 00:04:06,875 --> 00:04:08,333 but I didn't know why. 87 00:04:08,417 --> 00:04:10,833 And then that's-that's what I spent the next 20 years 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,167 trying to figure out. 89 00:04:13,208 --> 00:04:15,333 You can have these three seats here at the end of the table. 90 00:04:15,458 --> 00:04:16,958 JEREMY: All right, sounds good. 91 00:04:17,083 --> 00:04:19,333 We'll get situated. 92 00:04:19,458 --> 00:04:21,250 The UAPx guys have designed 93 00:04:21,375 --> 00:04:23,333 specialized technology to track 94 00:04:23,417 --> 00:04:26,125 and study UAPs, which we were eager to utilize 95 00:04:26,208 --> 00:04:27,792 in our rocket experiment. 96 00:04:27,917 --> 00:04:31,250 But first, we wanted to show them some of our own UAP footage 97 00:04:31,375 --> 00:04:33,750 that we've captured here on Skinwalker Ranch. 98 00:04:33,875 --> 00:04:34,958 ERIK: So, we have 99 00:04:35,083 --> 00:04:37,792 material that I'm anxious to put in front of you guys 100 00:04:37,917 --> 00:04:40,417 and see how it compares with things 101 00:04:40,542 --> 00:04:41,333 that you've either, you know, witnessed 102 00:04:41,458 --> 00:04:44,792 during your UAPx studies or even before. 103 00:04:44,875 --> 00:04:46,208 We're trying to figure out from some things we've seen, 104 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:48,750 uh, are these things actually moving 105 00:04:48,875 --> 00:04:50,167 through space from point A to point B, 106 00:04:50,250 --> 00:04:51,458 or are they literally vanishing here 107 00:04:51,583 --> 00:04:52,917 and appearing there? 108 00:04:53,042 --> 00:04:54,083 Sweet. 109 00:04:55,542 --> 00:04:57,875 ERIK: What we're interested in having you guys look at 110 00:04:58,042 --> 00:05:00,917 was something spotted in the sky 111 00:05:01,042 --> 00:05:04,917 during an unexpected sudden death of a cow. 112 00:05:05,042 --> 00:05:06,833 -Mm. -We have the animal 113 00:05:06,917 --> 00:05:11,000 down here in the last moments of this cow's life. 114 00:05:11,167 --> 00:05:13,083 The animal lifts its head up 115 00:05:13,208 --> 00:05:16,292 just as this dark object that you see above the tree 116 00:05:16,375 --> 00:05:18,667 comes into the frame. 117 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,417 It doesn't fly in. It just appears there. 118 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:24,500 -Crazy. -TRAVIS: Yep. 119 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:27,167 ERIK: Next frame. 120 00:05:27,333 --> 00:05:28,583 The object is here. 121 00:05:28,708 --> 00:05:31,417 Well, the way this video looks 122 00:05:31,542 --> 00:05:33,000 is basically how I would know I was looking 123 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:35,000 at one of the Tic Tacs. That's how they move. 124 00:05:35,125 --> 00:05:37,000 They would just... they would be from one point to the next 125 00:05:37,083 --> 00:05:39,667 before you realized they were, and then they'd just be gone. 126 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,042 Wow. 127 00:05:41,167 --> 00:05:42,792 Here's another one. 128 00:05:42,917 --> 00:05:45,625 It's tempting to infer a shape here 129 00:05:45,708 --> 00:05:48,667 that is spherical, would you say? 130 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:50,375 Depends on which way you're looking at it. 131 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:52,583 ERIK: Mm-hmm. Did the Tic Tacs 132 00:05:52,708 --> 00:05:56,208 ever appear spherical in the field of view of the equipment? 133 00:05:56,333 --> 00:05:59,333 Whenever you'd see it straight on, yeah. 134 00:05:59,417 --> 00:06:00,667 -Wow. -GARY: The videos 135 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:02,500 they showed us about the UAP-- 136 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:05,333 they exhibited a lot of the very similar 137 00:06:05,417 --> 00:06:09,292 or even the same characteristics as the Tic Tac did 138 00:06:09,417 --> 00:06:11,250 during the 2004 Nimitz encounter. 139 00:06:11,375 --> 00:06:12,958 I'll be dead honest with you. 140 00:06:13,042 --> 00:06:15,625 All of these objects weren't coming at us. 141 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:17,625 They were just doing whatever they were doing, 142 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:21,167 and then they only reacted to us. 143 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:22,792 So, that-that's an important part, 144 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:24,875 'cause a lot of people always ask, "Well, 145 00:06:25,042 --> 00:06:26,833 why didn't you have weapons? Why didn't you fire on them?" 146 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,833 They were doing no hostile intentions. 147 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,708 They weren't lighting us up, as far as I know. 148 00:06:31,875 --> 00:06:34,500 Well, it suggests that somehow it knew intent. 149 00:06:34,625 --> 00:06:36,333 That's interesting. 150 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,667 There's a long-standing, I don't know, hypothesis 151 00:06:39,792 --> 00:06:42,333 or even mythos about the ranch 152 00:06:42,458 --> 00:06:47,000 that-that it can sense intent and react to it. 153 00:06:47,167 --> 00:06:50,667 And that's what we keep having described to us, 154 00:06:50,750 --> 00:06:53,167 and we see odd things happen 155 00:06:53,292 --> 00:06:56,333 that kind of follows along that path, 156 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:58,333 but we're not ready to completely... 157 00:06:58,458 --> 00:06:59,917 You know, like-like you were saying, 158 00:07:00,042 --> 00:07:02,375 -not sure what to believe or accept just yet. -Yeah. 159 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,500 Now, the one thing that you might be interested in 160 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,833 is talking with other shipmates from that time. 161 00:07:07,958 --> 00:07:09,542 Uh, they were-they were in charge of equipment 162 00:07:09,708 --> 00:07:12,833 that detects EM, or electromagnetics, 163 00:07:12,917 --> 00:07:14,667 uh, RF. 164 00:07:14,792 --> 00:07:16,625 Uh, you know, things like that and... 165 00:07:16,708 --> 00:07:18,542 That is particularly interesting to us. 166 00:07:18,667 --> 00:07:19,917 They all have an NDA 167 00:07:20,042 --> 00:07:21,750 and will not talk about it at all. 168 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:23,625 I mean, not even off the record 169 00:07:23,750 --> 00:07:25,542 like, you know, old shipmates would. 170 00:07:25,708 --> 00:07:29,167 So, they-they pretty much scared the dickens out of those guys 171 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:30,542 -about-about it. -ERIK: So, 172 00:07:30,708 --> 00:07:32,125 you know, the UAP report 173 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:33,500 that was recently released 174 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:36,583 talking about RF, radio frequency signals. 175 00:07:36,708 --> 00:07:39,667 This is something that's especially interesting to us. 176 00:07:39,792 --> 00:07:41,625 TRAVIS: Over the last two years, 177 00:07:41,750 --> 00:07:43,542 we've repeatedly recorded 178 00:07:43,708 --> 00:07:47,000 these high spikes of radiofrequency, or RF energy. 179 00:07:48,375 --> 00:07:49,667 MAN: We've got liftoff. 180 00:07:49,792 --> 00:07:51,375 TRAVIS: Oh, my God. During launch, 181 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:53,458 the electromagnetic spectrum is going crazy, 182 00:07:53,542 --> 00:07:55,667 guys. I've never seen anything like it. 183 00:07:55,750 --> 00:07:58,958 All electronic devices operate on some RF frequency. 184 00:07:59,083 --> 00:08:03,375 Radios, GPS, satellites, TV, e-even microwaves. 185 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:06,333 But the one we consistently see here 186 00:08:06,458 --> 00:08:08,417 appears at 1.6 gigahertz, 187 00:08:08,542 --> 00:08:10,250 and no technology that we know of 188 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:12,583 uses that specific frequency. 189 00:08:12,708 --> 00:08:14,833 It's an anomaly that's also been recorded 190 00:08:14,917 --> 00:08:18,458 during other UAP encounters that were documented 191 00:08:18,583 --> 00:08:20,917 in the 2021 report by the federal government 192 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:22,292 on UAPs. 193 00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:23,500 Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. 194 00:08:23,583 --> 00:08:25,083 What's this right here? What's this? What's this? 195 00:08:25,208 --> 00:08:26,625 TRAVIS: We got something! We got something! 196 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:30,833 The UAPTF report mentioned where they were measuring RF. 197 00:08:30,958 --> 00:08:32,833 -ERIK: Mm-hmm. -JEREMY: The problem 198 00:08:32,917 --> 00:08:35,250 with the UAPTF report is it doesn't go further than that. 199 00:08:35,375 --> 00:08:36,583 It was very vague. 200 00:08:36,708 --> 00:08:39,125 And-and one of the primary reasons 201 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:41,417 that the UAPTF report is vague 202 00:08:41,542 --> 00:08:43,917 is that report is written knowing 203 00:08:44,042 --> 00:08:45,292 that enemies of the United States 204 00:08:45,375 --> 00:08:46,458 are going to read it. 205 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:48,167 So we're not gonna put the meat and potatoes 206 00:08:48,250 --> 00:08:51,125 -in that thing. -JASON: (groans) I'm hurting. 207 00:08:51,208 --> 00:08:53,292 I just got a headache, bro. 208 00:08:53,375 --> 00:08:55,958 My head just started, like... (imitates explosion) 209 00:08:56,042 --> 00:08:58,875 -What is it? -Uh, his head is starting to hurt. 210 00:08:59,042 --> 00:09:01,167 -JASON: Like, really bad. -THOMAS: Like, 211 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:03,000 -behind your eyes? -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Go turn on 212 00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:05,833 -the spectrum analyzer, Erik. -Yeah, we got to get the spectrum analyzer. 213 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,333 Holy crap. 214 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,000 Yeah, bro, it's, like, hurting really bad. 215 00:09:11,125 --> 00:09:14,042 -THOMAS: Um, come with me. -Ever since we started driving in here. 216 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:16,333 Just in case. 217 00:09:16,458 --> 00:09:19,958 JASON: (exhales) I'm hydrated, so I know I'm good, man. 218 00:09:20,042 --> 00:09:23,333 My freaking head is like... Oh, my God. 219 00:09:23,417 --> 00:09:25,250 Here, jump in here real quick. 220 00:09:25,375 --> 00:09:27,208 Gonna... 221 00:09:27,333 --> 00:09:29,292 TRAVIS: Scan the skies. 222 00:09:29,417 --> 00:09:30,917 Scan the skies. 223 00:09:31,042 --> 00:09:33,667 JASON: It kind of just started out of nowhere. 224 00:09:34,917 --> 00:09:38,250 -THOMAS: We may have to get you off the ranch. -(groans softly) 225 00:09:45,042 --> 00:09:46,792 -THOMAS: Is it pretty good pounding? -JASON: Yeah. 226 00:09:46,917 --> 00:09:49,250 -I'm hurting. -THOMAS: Behind your eyes? 227 00:09:49,375 --> 00:09:52,000 -JASON: Right here. Like, right... -THOMAS: Yep. 228 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,125 TRAVIS: During our meeting with the team from UAPx, 229 00:09:56,208 --> 00:09:59,083 out of nowhere, Jason Turner suddenly had 230 00:09:59,208 --> 00:10:01,833 a bizarre physical episode just like Thomas 231 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,958 and myself and so many others have experienced 232 00:10:05,042 --> 00:10:07,000 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 233 00:10:07,083 --> 00:10:08,667 Look at my hands. 234 00:10:08,792 --> 00:10:10,917 THOMAS: Yeah, you're definitely shaking. 235 00:10:11,042 --> 00:10:13,500 Standing in the dark silo next to Jason, 236 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:14,708 I can't help but flash back 237 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:17,292 to the events that happened in the past. 238 00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:19,125 -Goodbye. -Yeah. 239 00:10:19,208 --> 00:10:20,750 -You okay? -Mm. 240 00:10:20,875 --> 00:10:22,750 Hey. 241 00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:26,667 TRAVIS: Tom, you all right? 242 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:28,958 THOMAS: My head is-is hurting bad. 243 00:10:29,083 --> 00:10:30,833 TRAVIS: He needs to be in the car 244 00:10:30,958 --> 00:10:33,125 right now on the way to the emergency room. 245 00:10:34,083 --> 00:10:37,125 THOMAS: I can relate, unfortunately. 246 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:40,333 Having experienced something similar, 247 00:10:40,458 --> 00:10:43,667 obviously, the first item is to get him to safety 248 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:46,000 and see if we can stop what's happening. 249 00:10:46,125 --> 00:10:48,667 But I have a lot of worry in my heart. 250 00:10:48,792 --> 00:10:52,250 I suffered an injury. It almost cost me my life. 251 00:10:52,375 --> 00:10:54,833 I don't want to see anybody else hurt like that. 252 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:57,208 TRAVIS: They put him in the Faraday cage 253 00:10:57,375 --> 00:10:59,083 -out there, so... Yeah. -ERIK: Is he out in the grain bin? 254 00:10:59,208 --> 00:11:01,833 -So, hopefully, he's feeling better. -ERIK: Good thinking. 255 00:11:01,958 --> 00:11:03,708 TRAVIS: There's a metal silo 256 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:05,333 outside the command center, 257 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:08,000 and it acts like what's called a Faraday cage, 258 00:11:08,083 --> 00:11:10,875 meaning that the inside is shielded 259 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,917 -from outside energy sources. -THOMAS: So, he was... 260 00:11:13,042 --> 00:11:14,833 -He was shaking pretty violently. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 261 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,917 I mean, uncontrollably. 262 00:11:17,042 --> 00:11:19,167 TRAVIS: What Jason is describing sounds a lot 263 00:11:19,292 --> 00:11:21,042 like the effects of microwave exposure. 264 00:11:21,167 --> 00:11:23,833 So we decided to check the spectrum analyzer 265 00:11:23,958 --> 00:11:25,583 and see if any strange energy spikes 266 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:27,250 suddenly emerged on the ranch. 267 00:11:28,917 --> 00:11:33,125 Oh, the Geiger counter's jumped up to 18. 268 00:11:33,250 --> 00:11:35,917 -It hit a 19. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey. -ERIK: Look. Look, look, 269 00:11:36,042 --> 00:11:39,500 -look. Right here. -It's here. We got that 1.6 thing. 270 00:11:39,625 --> 00:11:41,583 -ERIK: Yeah. -But we're clearly getting that signal. 271 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:45,917 Sure enough, Erik detected an RF radiation spike 272 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:48,833 at 1.6 gigahertz on the spectrum analyzer. 273 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:52,458 In normal cases, it should be flatline. Zero. 274 00:11:52,542 --> 00:11:56,167 So something strange clearly happened on the ranch 275 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:57,875 at the exact same time 276 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,333 that Jason had those pains in his head. 277 00:12:01,417 --> 00:12:04,375 -How you feeling, man? -JASON: Holy crap, bro. 278 00:12:04,542 --> 00:12:06,000 BRYANT: If he steps out and it happens again, 279 00:12:06,083 --> 00:12:08,208 -I'm sorry, I'm gonna get you out of here. -JASON: Nah, I get you. 280 00:12:08,375 --> 00:12:09,458 -I understand, I understand. -Okay, I... 281 00:12:09,542 --> 00:12:11,917 TRAVIS: You feel like you're coming-coming down? 282 00:12:12,042 --> 00:12:14,292 -JASON: No. -We'll wait. 283 00:12:14,417 --> 00:12:16,250 TRAVIS: We were eager to get our experiment started, 284 00:12:16,375 --> 00:12:19,500 but Dragon was right that we needed to give Jason some time. 285 00:12:19,625 --> 00:12:21,333 Can you get me another water? 286 00:12:21,458 --> 00:12:23,125 TRAVIS: We wanted to make sure he was gonna be all right. 287 00:12:23,208 --> 00:12:25,708 And, of course, we wanted answers, 288 00:12:25,833 --> 00:12:28,500 but people's health and safety comes first. 289 00:12:28,625 --> 00:12:30,167 (exhales) 290 00:12:41,250 --> 00:12:43,375 KANDUS: I am excited that people are 291 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:44,292 starting to be more open 292 00:12:44,375 --> 00:12:46,875 to wanting to share their story and put it 293 00:12:47,042 --> 00:12:48,875 -on record. -TOM: Kandus and I 294 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,833 are caretakers of Skinwalker Ranch. 295 00:12:50,958 --> 00:12:53,000 Our role is to go off the ranch 296 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:55,875 and bring back information to the team. 297 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,917 Looks like Jeff's here, waiting 298 00:12:58,042 --> 00:12:59,833 -for us. -TOM: All right. I'm excited to hear 299 00:12:59,917 --> 00:13:01,083 -his story. -KANDUS: Me too. 300 00:13:01,208 --> 00:13:02,917 TOM: And keep compiling 301 00:13:03,042 --> 00:13:05,250 this information, you know, bettering the picture, 302 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:07,833 getting a little more focus on what's truly happening 303 00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:10,000 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 304 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:13,708 -Kaleb? Good. -How's it going, Jeff? 305 00:13:13,833 --> 00:13:17,833 -This is Tom and Kandus. -TOM: Kaleb set up a meeting with a deputy, 306 00:13:17,917 --> 00:13:20,500 and he has a few things to share with us 307 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,167 that may help us with the investigation on the ranch. 308 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:26,292 Jeff, I figured that it'd be a good, uh, thing 309 00:13:26,375 --> 00:13:27,500 to have Tom and Kandus come out and meet with you 310 00:13:27,667 --> 00:13:30,042 so you could tell your story about what happened here. 311 00:13:30,167 --> 00:13:31,958 Perfect. We can do that. 312 00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:34,000 Kaleb's told us a little bit about what happened, 313 00:13:34,125 --> 00:13:36,167 but we're really interested in hearing 314 00:13:36,292 --> 00:13:37,167 your story. 315 00:13:37,333 --> 00:13:39,000 JEFF: I get a call last year. 316 00:13:39,167 --> 00:13:41,625 Approximately 8:00, 8:30. 317 00:13:41,708 --> 00:13:43,958 A possible drone flying around, 318 00:13:44,042 --> 00:13:46,833 looking in, uh, this homeowner's windows. 319 00:13:47,833 --> 00:13:50,000 KANDUS: So, how close to her house did it get? 320 00:13:50,083 --> 00:13:51,333 Did she say it was 321 00:13:51,458 --> 00:13:53,042 right up on it? 322 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:54,875 She said it went around her house. 323 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 On multiple different occasions. 324 00:13:57,125 --> 00:13:59,667 Problem that she had was it was scaring her. 325 00:13:59,792 --> 00:14:01,167 She didn't know what it was. 326 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:03,958 Her family didn't know what it was, 327 00:14:04,083 --> 00:14:06,833 and it kept returning, and nobody had an answer 328 00:14:06,958 --> 00:14:08,667 for-for who or what. 329 00:14:10,667 --> 00:14:14,167 I come up here, I go knock on the door and I meet her. 330 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:16,917 When I come up I see this big bright light. 331 00:14:17,042 --> 00:14:19,000 If you see the second telephone pole, 332 00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:21,333 if you go above that about two, three inches-- 333 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:23,000 abnormally bright light. 334 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,042 -So it was just bright, no color, no hint of any color? -Nope. 335 00:14:29,167 --> 00:14:29,917 Couldn't be a helicopter. 336 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:31,333 -No flashing lights? -No fla... 337 00:14:31,458 --> 00:14:32,708 no flashing lights. 338 00:14:32,875 --> 00:14:35,833 I couldn't see any metal, any shape. 339 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:40,250 After probably eight, ten minutes, 340 00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:42,542 it started to elevate, and it looked like 341 00:14:42,667 --> 00:14:47,500 it was traveling due west. And so I jumped in the truck, 342 00:14:47,583 --> 00:14:51,042 I went straight west and, uh, followed it. 343 00:14:51,167 --> 00:14:55,167 Now, as you went down this road, what hap-what happened next? 344 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:58,000 Well, every once in a while, it looked like it was going 345 00:14:58,125 --> 00:15:01,792 up in elevation then coming down in elevation. 346 00:15:01,875 --> 00:15:05,333 And how high and low would you say, based on your eye? 347 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:07,708 Well, it appeared to be, I don't know, a couple hundred 348 00:15:07,875 --> 00:15:08,833 feet off the ground here. 349 00:15:08,958 --> 00:15:11,042 And towards the end there, 350 00:15:11,208 --> 00:15:12,542 it was so high up that I actually had to 351 00:15:12,708 --> 00:15:14,542 look up through my windshield to actually see it. 352 00:15:14,708 --> 00:15:16,000 That's crazy. 353 00:15:16,125 --> 00:15:17,833 So, did it disappear at some point? 354 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,292 No. Never lost track of it. 355 00:15:19,417 --> 00:15:21,958 But I followed it 20, 25 miles that way. 356 00:15:22,042 --> 00:15:22,958 Really? 357 00:15:23,042 --> 00:15:24,667 Until I ran out of road, 358 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:26,000 and I just watched it drop 359 00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:28,625 -over the horizon. -Wow. 360 00:15:28,708 --> 00:15:31,292 As he's telling us about this bright light... 361 00:15:31,375 --> 00:15:33,333 We've heard this story before. You know? 362 00:15:33,458 --> 00:15:35,583 We've-we've seen them on the ranch. 363 00:15:35,708 --> 00:15:38,750 Holy (bleep)! Right there. 364 00:15:38,875 --> 00:15:39,625 What is that? What is that? 365 00:15:39,708 --> 00:15:41,208 We got-we got something, hold on. 366 00:15:41,333 --> 00:15:44,000 -Right there! -Yeah, I see it. -Oh, yeah. 367 00:15:44,125 --> 00:15:46,292 There's definitely a connection here. 368 00:15:46,375 --> 00:15:48,917 We're gonna take this back to the ranch, 369 00:15:49,042 --> 00:15:51,250 do a little more research on what-what happened 370 00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:53,208 that night on the ranch, what we picked up. 371 00:15:53,333 --> 00:15:55,167 Just can't thank you enough for bringing this 372 00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:57,208 -to our attention. -No problem. 373 00:15:57,333 --> 00:16:00,667 -All right, we'll see you. Thanks so much. -You betcha. 374 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,833 BRYANT: So, are you back to feeling 375 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,833 -good again? -Yeah. I'm back to a 100% again. 376 00:16:11,958 --> 00:16:14,500 That's good. That's some scary stuff. 377 00:16:14,583 --> 00:16:16,958 TRAVIS: About an hour after Jason's strange headache, 378 00:16:17,042 --> 00:16:18,458 he was feeling normal again, 379 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,958 so we got back together to continue the meeting 380 00:16:21,083 --> 00:16:22,833 and review the plan for our experiment. 381 00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:24,667 Two years, we've shot off rockets, 382 00:16:24,792 --> 00:16:26,167 in the direction of the triangle, 383 00:16:26,292 --> 00:16:28,333 two years we've seen UAPS. 384 00:16:28,458 --> 00:16:29,500 You guys want to shoot some rockets 385 00:16:29,625 --> 00:16:30,917 off with us, see what we can find? 386 00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:33,417 Oh, yes, for sure. 387 00:16:33,542 --> 00:16:36,708 We're hoping with this experiment it's just another 388 00:16:36,875 --> 00:16:40,292 opportunity to do a stimulus, see if there's an effect. 389 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:43,125 We would hope to see something. 390 00:16:43,208 --> 00:16:46,417 Obviously, the most important, uh, 391 00:16:46,542 --> 00:16:49,667 thing that we take out of this exercise are the data. 392 00:16:49,833 --> 00:16:51,333 So we really need to be 393 00:16:51,417 --> 00:16:53,333 getting them out there with their equipment. 394 00:16:53,417 --> 00:16:54,667 I'm thinking set them up somewhere where they can 395 00:16:54,792 --> 00:16:56,167 get a good view of the triangle or something. 396 00:16:56,333 --> 00:16:58,167 Sounds like a plan. 397 00:16:58,292 --> 00:16:59,708 If you guys don't mind, uh, they'll take you to show 398 00:16:59,833 --> 00:17:01,542 you where to set up your instruments and stuff, 399 00:17:01,708 --> 00:17:03,458 we've got some setting up to do get the rockets 400 00:17:03,583 --> 00:17:07,000 -ready to go, and then we'll start. -Let's go. 401 00:17:07,125 --> 00:17:09,208 TRAVIS: We got a lot to do. 402 00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:21,208 This is called the OSIRIS, which is the "off-road 403 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:25,042 scientific investigation response informatics system." 404 00:17:25,167 --> 00:17:27,500 It is much easier just to say OSIRIS. 405 00:17:27,583 --> 00:17:29,500 I just started building a vehicle 406 00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:33,000 that was designed to physically track UAP to 407 00:17:33,125 --> 00:17:36,500 -capture solid actionable data. -Okay. 408 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:39,833 Because we've had success in stimulating UAP to appear above 409 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,208 the ranch in the past, 410 00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:43,708 the plan is to launch rockets back up 411 00:17:43,833 --> 00:17:46,875 into the triangle and utilize Jeremy's OSIRIS vehicle 412 00:17:47,042 --> 00:17:49,708 to track and identify anything strange that occurs. 413 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:53,792 Hopefully, UAPx offers the best chance yet 414 00:17:53,917 --> 00:17:55,667 to really get some answers. 415 00:17:55,792 --> 00:17:57,708 What kind of instruments and things are in there? 416 00:17:57,875 --> 00:18:00,583 Pop open the back here. 417 00:18:00,708 --> 00:18:02,333 Looks like you got a steerable camera? 418 00:18:02,458 --> 00:18:04,750 JEREMY: Yeah. When an object is detected, 419 00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:07,375 it has the ability to not only digitally but also 420 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,208 physically track the object as it goes through the sky. 421 00:18:10,333 --> 00:18:12,750 I've got a directional antenna on a swivel mount 422 00:18:12,875 --> 00:18:14,792 that gets mounted on the hood so when I can see 423 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:17,625 the frequency spikes, I can actually pinpoint the location 424 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:19,500 that the frequencies are coming in from. 425 00:18:19,583 --> 00:18:21,250 Nice. 426 00:18:21,375 --> 00:18:23,125 And I've got, uh, multiple cameras. 427 00:18:23,208 --> 00:18:24,833 We've got magnetometers, gyroscopes. 428 00:18:24,958 --> 00:18:26,458 And I've got everything running 429 00:18:26,542 --> 00:18:28,625 with a, uh, a computer between the seats. 430 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:31,333 And then, in the very front, I've got a touch panel. 431 00:18:31,458 --> 00:18:32,333 TRAVIS: The OSIRIS is going to be 432 00:18:32,458 --> 00:18:34,958 so valuable to our investigation 433 00:18:35,042 --> 00:18:38,375 because it has advanced aerial detection capabilities. 434 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,333 It uses sophisticated 360-degree cameras 435 00:18:41,458 --> 00:18:43,333 that continually scan the skies, 436 00:18:43,417 --> 00:18:45,125 looking for anything anomalous 437 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:47,542 beyond conventional aircraft, like UAPs. 438 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:50,500 So, Kaleb, uh, what I'd like you to do, then, 439 00:18:50,625 --> 00:18:53,667 -is take them out into the south field, here. -Uh-huh. 440 00:18:53,792 --> 00:18:55,542 Get them in a spot that has a good field of view. 441 00:18:55,667 --> 00:18:57,167 You know where we've seen the things. Get them where 442 00:18:57,292 --> 00:18:58,583 -they can see that good. -Okay. 443 00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:00,250 Uh, you guys are going to run, 444 00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:02,500 -chase the rockets for us? -Yes, we are. 445 00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:03,792 You all got a walkie, right? Everybody's gonna have walkies. 446 00:19:03,875 --> 00:19:06,792 -We do. Yeah, we do. -Uh, so Gary, you're going with us. 447 00:19:06,917 --> 00:19:09,000 -Yep. -All right, well, let's do it. Let's load everything UP 448 00:19:09,125 --> 00:19:10,458 and let's get going. 449 00:19:15,125 --> 00:19:18,417 BRYANT: Having the UAPX guys out here with their OSIRIS 450 00:19:18,542 --> 00:19:20,375 vehicle, with all their monitoring, we can take a look 451 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:22,583 at what's going on and maybe monitor 452 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:24,333 if there's any more strangeness. 453 00:19:24,458 --> 00:19:26,417 And we've got this new asset in the OSIRIS 454 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:29,458 that has all sorts of instrumentation 455 00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:30,917 that should help us out a lot. 456 00:19:31,042 --> 00:19:32,833 This is good. 457 00:19:32,958 --> 00:19:34,333 All right, let's just start getting all this 458 00:19:34,458 --> 00:19:37,708 stuff out. I think the launchpad should be about right there. 459 00:19:37,875 --> 00:19:39,167 TRAVIS: To have these military experts 460 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:40,875 helping our investigation 461 00:19:41,042 --> 00:19:43,417 really drove home the fact that what we're doing 462 00:19:43,542 --> 00:19:45,583 here at Skinwalker Ranch could have 463 00:19:45,708 --> 00:19:49,625 huge implications for the entire world regarding UAPs. 464 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:53,917 Plug this one into the, uh, MSDAU on the other side. 465 00:19:54,042 --> 00:19:55,458 The one on the back side, there. 466 00:19:55,583 --> 00:19:57,458 Thank you. We need to get this on there. 467 00:19:57,542 --> 00:20:00,000 -What, are we putting, smoke on it? -You're damn right. 468 00:20:00,083 --> 00:20:02,458 TRAVIS: We attached a smoke bomb to the first rocket 469 00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:04,458 to see if the trail it left behind 470 00:20:04,583 --> 00:20:06,667 would reveal any deviations 471 00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:09,667 during its ascent, and if it did, then that could help us 472 00:20:09,792 --> 00:20:12,208 further pinpoint the anomaly above the triangle. 473 00:20:12,375 --> 00:20:14,083 Hey, Jason, you want to hit that inverter? 474 00:20:14,208 --> 00:20:16,333 I got you. It's on. 475 00:20:16,417 --> 00:20:17,833 KALEB: You guys have your own spectrum analyzer 476 00:20:17,958 --> 00:20:19,250 and all that, right? 477 00:20:19,375 --> 00:20:21,250 Yes. Yes, we do. 478 00:20:21,375 --> 00:20:23,167 Hey, Erik, we're ready to load 479 00:20:23,292 --> 00:20:25,583 payload A into the rocket. 480 00:20:25,708 --> 00:20:27,333 Are you ready for us to pull the tab? 481 00:20:27,458 --> 00:20:30,417 That's affirmative. Go ahead. 482 00:20:30,542 --> 00:20:32,375 We have a checklist of necessary items 483 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:34,500 that we go through before each rocket launch. 484 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:37,667 We load the payload after making sure that it's functioning 485 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:40,375 with our instruments on board, we check to make sure 486 00:20:40,542 --> 00:20:42,875 that our igniters are properly positioned. 487 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000 All right, Jason, everything is running right now. 488 00:20:46,083 --> 00:20:48,458 -All right, everything's running. We're good. -Roger that. 489 00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:52,625 Having gone through our checklist 490 00:20:52,750 --> 00:20:54,500 we launched our first rocket. 491 00:20:54,625 --> 00:20:57,833 All right, here we go. Rocket is going hot. 492 00:21:00,583 --> 00:21:01,583 Hot. 493 00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:07,167 Five, four, three, 494 00:21:07,292 --> 00:21:10,167 two, one. 495 00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:11,458 You got to be kidding me. 496 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:15,333 -Oh, (bleep). -What? 497 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,625 Everything just went offline. 498 00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:20,167 -Everything? -Computers shut down. 499 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,042 -Everything went offline. -Oh, geez. 500 00:21:22,167 --> 00:21:24,750 -Pop, come on, pop. Pop! -Come on, go, go, go, go. 501 00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:30,625 Be advised, all of OSIRIS' equipment just died. 502 00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:34,292 OSIRIS is dead. Everything went down. 503 00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:35,458 No kidding? 504 00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:36,792 The inverter apparently just 505 00:21:36,917 --> 00:21:39,500 went all nines across its display screen. 506 00:21:40,875 --> 00:21:43,042 JEREMY: My equipment's not working. I've worked out 507 00:21:43,167 --> 00:21:44,167 all the bugs that I could have 508 00:21:44,292 --> 00:21:47,250 possibly worked out in the OSIRIS. This doesn't 509 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:48,917 make any sense to me. 510 00:21:49,042 --> 00:21:51,250 -Something's nukin' it. -GARY: Yeah. 511 00:21:51,375 --> 00:21:52,667 Is it coming back up? 512 00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:53,917 Trying. 513 00:21:54,042 --> 00:21:55,292 We're trying. 514 00:21:55,375 --> 00:21:57,333 THOMAS: Here we are, bringing on 515 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,750 this sophisticated monitoring equipment, 516 00:22:00,875 --> 00:22:04,625 and right before we're to launch, it goes down. 517 00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:06,833 As sophisticated as their equipment is, 518 00:22:06,917 --> 00:22:08,750 it's no match for whatever it is that's 519 00:22:08,875 --> 00:22:10,833 happening here on Skinwalker Ranch. 520 00:22:10,917 --> 00:22:14,333 All right, we're recording. We're running. 521 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,667 Hey, Thomas, 522 00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:17,958 OSIRIS is back up and running. 523 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,750 We need to get this rocket in the air. 524 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:22,167 All right, we're gonna go ahead and launch rocket. 525 00:22:22,292 --> 00:22:25,667 TRAVIS: You get right down, you tape that thing together good. 526 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:27,208 THOMAS: Hey, guys, we are getting ready to launch 527 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:28,583 the second package. 528 00:22:28,708 --> 00:22:31,833 TRAVIS: Right now, I think we're good. 529 00:22:31,958 --> 00:22:33,750 All right, let's tilt her back up now. 530 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:37,292 Shoot it mostly straight up. So, about... 531 00:22:37,375 --> 00:22:39,292 -All right. -Launch will be 532 00:22:39,417 --> 00:22:40,375 in 30 seconds. 533 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:43,417 -All right, I'm about to go hot. -All right. 534 00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:44,708 T-minus 20. 535 00:22:50,125 --> 00:22:52,667 T-minus ten. 536 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:53,542 All right, here we go. Here we go. 537 00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:55,917 Everybody back. Safe distances. 538 00:22:56,042 --> 00:22:57,750 It's all you, Thomas. 539 00:22:57,875 --> 00:22:59,667 Four, three, 540 00:22:59,792 --> 00:23:01,458 -two, one. -Is it doing it again? -(beep) 541 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:05,458 I'm not getting power to the computer. 542 00:23:06,708 --> 00:23:08,250 Oh, that's a good launch. 543 00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:10,333 -Oh, yeah, good launch. -Much better. 544 00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:11,750 Come on, chute. 545 00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:14,708 Where's the chute? 546 00:23:14,875 --> 00:23:16,500 -There we go! We got chute! -THOMAS: We got chute. 547 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:19,625 Nice! Good chute. 548 00:23:21,042 --> 00:23:22,708 OSIRIS just went down the moment you said 549 00:23:22,875 --> 00:23:25,333 that you were gonna launch rocket number two. 550 00:23:25,458 --> 00:23:27,042 Hey, Travis. 551 00:23:28,625 --> 00:23:29,625 OSIRIS just went down again. 552 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:33,500 TRAVIS: Are you kidding me? That's crazy. 553 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:42,417 JASON: See this whole thing? Look at this. 554 00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:44,333 -JEREMY: I know. -JASON: It keeps shutting off. 555 00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:47,250 JEREMY: For some reason, it's getting a bad signal from the inverter. 556 00:23:47,375 --> 00:23:48,583 Yeah, look-- all nines. 557 00:23:48,708 --> 00:23:52,708 I don't quite understand that. I don't understand that at all. 558 00:23:52,875 --> 00:23:56,083 The OSIRIS incorporates a software control system 559 00:23:56,208 --> 00:23:59,500 which uses camera analytics and object detection 560 00:23:59,583 --> 00:24:01,083 with AI and machine learning. 561 00:24:01,208 --> 00:24:04,292 I ran baselines on the spectrum analyzers. 562 00:24:04,417 --> 00:24:07,208 Uh, the cameras were tested. And my equipment's not working. 563 00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:10,250 It is... "Disappointing" is an understatement. 564 00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,750 All right, I've got one camera actively recording. 565 00:24:12,875 --> 00:24:14,458 Waiting on the other two. 566 00:24:14,542 --> 00:24:16,542 TRAVIS: With each launch so far 567 00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:19,375 the OSIRIS vehicle turns itself off. 568 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:20,625 All the equipment stops working. 569 00:24:20,708 --> 00:24:22,708 How is that even possible? 570 00:24:22,833 --> 00:24:25,333 All cameras recording. We're up and running. 571 00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:26,833 Copy that. 572 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,500 We're going to launch a rocket right now. 573 00:24:29,625 --> 00:24:31,750 Five, four, 574 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:33,250 -I went down again. -three, two, 575 00:24:33,375 --> 00:24:35,667 -one, ignition. -JEREMY: What the hell? 576 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:42,167 So, one time is an accident. 577 00:24:42,292 --> 00:24:45,542 Two times is a coincidence. I've got nothing. I... 578 00:24:45,667 --> 00:24:49,750 No reasonable explanation that I have can explain this. 579 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:51,750 Yep, yep, yeah, yeah. 580 00:24:51,875 --> 00:24:53,542 TRAVIS: That's coming down on us. That's gonna come right 581 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:54,792 -on top of us. -Just about. 582 00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,792 -Hey, look! UAP, right there! -BRYANT: Yep. 583 00:24:56,917 --> 00:24:59,625 -I see it. -BRYANT: Yep, there it is. You got one. 584 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:02,042 Yup, there it is, right there, right there. 585 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:03,375 Oh, yeah. 586 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:07,167 This is the first time I've seen anything like this since 2004. 587 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:11,167 In other investigations, we saw the phenomena in data. 588 00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:13,333 This one we could actually see with the naked eye. 589 00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:16,042 Right there, right there! It's-it's brilliantly bright, 590 00:25:16,167 --> 00:25:17,667 too. Somebody get on with Erik. See if he's getting anything 591 00:25:17,792 --> 00:25:21,167 -on the spectrum analyzer. -THOMAS: Erik, do you, uh... We've got a UAP 592 00:25:21,292 --> 00:25:22,500 up in the sky right now. 593 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,375 Look in the sky, y'all! 594 00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:31,167 Let 'em-let 'em know I'm down again. 595 00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:33,000 Did y'all see that? 596 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:36,500 Bright boxes, like we saw last time. See, right there. 597 00:25:36,625 --> 00:25:37,667 Got to be (bleep) me. 598 00:25:37,792 --> 00:25:40,167 This is the first time since I saw the Tic Tac 599 00:25:40,292 --> 00:25:43,792 in 2004 that I actually saw something in person. 600 00:25:43,917 --> 00:25:46,125 Literally, a UAP just sitting there. 601 00:25:46,208 --> 00:25:49,125 It's a 100% real, and it's honestly amazing 602 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:51,667 to be out here and actually see something. 603 00:25:51,792 --> 00:25:53,667 -TRAVIS: Come over here! -GARY: Yeah, it's behind the clouds now. 604 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:55,333 Crap. That thing is bright. 605 00:25:55,417 --> 00:25:57,000 -Are they always that bright? -And it's gone. 606 00:25:57,125 --> 00:26:00,667 GARY: I literally see this object, 607 00:26:00,792 --> 00:26:02,167 and then it just disappeared. 608 00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:04,208 I mean, literally just disappeared. Gone. 609 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:08,292 Very similar or even the same characteristics 610 00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:11,833 as the Tic Tac did during the 2004 Nimitz encounter. 611 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,125 KALEB: Have I said, uh, 612 00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:16,125 -"Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch" yet? -Hoorah. 613 00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:18,000 JASON: What would be causing that? 614 00:26:18,125 --> 00:26:21,542 -I don't know. -This is crazy right here, bro. 615 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:23,292 Yeah, I'm gonna have to jury-rig it. 616 00:26:31,375 --> 00:26:34,583 -Rocket is hot! -JEREMY: I lost 617 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,125 total functionality. 618 00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:39,292 It was just fine a couple minutes ago. 619 00:26:39,417 --> 00:26:41,667 TRAVIS: It was just bizarre and baffling 620 00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:43,625 that OSIRIS kept shutting down 621 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:45,875 and was unable to collect any data. 622 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,917 But then again, the timing-- 623 00:26:48,042 --> 00:26:50,167 right before each rocket launch-- 624 00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:54,667 may also be good data in itself. We can't prove it yet, 625 00:26:54,833 --> 00:26:56,625 but it was like something was actively 626 00:26:56,750 --> 00:27:00,667 intervening to stop it from working just before each launch. 627 00:27:00,833 --> 00:27:03,958 Four, three, two... 628 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,417 TRAVIS: We still kept launching rockets 629 00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:10,167 to see if any more UAPs would appear. 630 00:27:10,292 --> 00:27:11,250 Good chute. 631 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,500 Five, four... 632 00:27:12,583 --> 00:27:16,000 Well, the spectrum analyzer is starting to go out again. 633 00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:17,542 It's right before they do another rocket launch. 634 00:27:19,958 --> 00:27:21,000 TRAVIS: Kill the lights, we're gonna sit and watch 635 00:27:21,167 --> 00:27:22,333 the skies for a little bit. 636 00:27:22,417 --> 00:27:24,667 After our rockets were launched, 637 00:27:24,792 --> 00:27:27,958 we waited for almost an hour and didn't see anything 638 00:27:28,083 --> 00:27:31,667 else in the sky, and OSIRIS continued to fail. 639 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:34,667 Things didn't go the way we had planned with the data 640 00:27:34,792 --> 00:27:37,792 collection, and that is unfortunately becoming common 641 00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:39,875 during experiments here on Skinwalker Ranch. 642 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,500 Well, um... we've-we've done a-a lot. 643 00:27:44,625 --> 00:27:46,083 We've launch eight rockets 644 00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:48,167 and Erik's got more data than he can 645 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:49,375 deal with right now, I'm sure, 646 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:52,958 So, uh, I appreciate it, and I say, uh, with that, 647 00:27:53,042 --> 00:27:54,417 let's call it a night. 648 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:55,333 But, you know, 649 00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:58,583 it was incredible to see and document 650 00:27:58,708 --> 00:28:00,500 UAPs, especially with this team, 651 00:28:00,625 --> 00:28:02,667 given their past experiences. 652 00:28:02,792 --> 00:28:04,667 I have a suspicion that, uh, 653 00:28:04,792 --> 00:28:06,750 all this UAP stuff, 654 00:28:06,875 --> 00:28:08,042 whether it's here or elsewhere-- 655 00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:10,292 I think it's connected. 656 00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,125 -(vehicle doors close) -JIM: Good to see you guys. 657 00:28:24,208 --> 00:28:25,667 -KANDUS: Always. -JIM: Got a good friend here and a neighbor 658 00:28:25,792 --> 00:28:27,042 -of ours, this is Corey. -Oh. 659 00:28:27,208 --> 00:28:28,625 -Hello. -All right. 660 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:31,125 -Hi, Corey, I'm Tom. And this is Kandus. -Hi. 661 00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:34,208 TOM: Deputy Kearney gave us some fascinating information, 662 00:28:34,375 --> 00:28:37,208 and we're taking it very seriously 663 00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,333 during this research process. 664 00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:42,833 We have to keep our minds open and explore every option. 665 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,667 This is the first time that Corey has 666 00:28:44,833 --> 00:28:46,292 -ventured into the ranch. -Yeah. 667 00:28:46,417 --> 00:28:49,625 -KANDUS: Oh, really? -TOM: Today, Jim is bringing in 668 00:28:49,708 --> 00:28:52,958 Corey Serawop, who lives just down the road from here, 669 00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:55,500 to speak with us about a strange event that 670 00:28:55,583 --> 00:28:59,000 happened to him. Something he saw with his own eyes. 671 00:28:59,083 --> 00:29:00,542 -If we could, maybe we can walk around the back. -KANDUS: Yeah. 672 00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:01,708 -Let's go on back and sit down. -TOM: Yeah, we got 673 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:02,833 -a place to sit. -That-that'd be great. 674 00:29:02,958 --> 00:29:04,167 KANDUS: Corey is a local 675 00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:07,708 Ute Native American, and has some stories to share. 676 00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:11,000 His ancestors go back 677 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,958 thousands of years in this area. 678 00:29:14,042 --> 00:29:16,583 What are some of the oral traditions that have 679 00:29:16,708 --> 00:29:18,958 been passed down to you about 680 00:29:19,083 --> 00:29:21,000 maybe Skinwalker Ranch, 681 00:29:21,083 --> 00:29:24,167 and skinwalkers, particularly? 682 00:29:24,292 --> 00:29:28,958 Hmm. What I was told is that the land here has 683 00:29:29,042 --> 00:29:32,708 been cursed because there was a battle that was 684 00:29:32,833 --> 00:29:35,125 fought between the Navajos and the Ute. 685 00:29:36,667 --> 00:29:39,208 TRAVIS: The legend of the malevolent shape-shifting entity 686 00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:42,958 known as the skinwalker started from a reported curse 687 00:29:43,083 --> 00:29:45,542 that the indigenous Navajo people in this area 688 00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:49,000 put on the Ute people during a bitter conflict 689 00:29:49,125 --> 00:29:50,625 back in the 19th century. 690 00:29:50,708 --> 00:29:53,042 But what's really interesting is that both nations 691 00:29:53,167 --> 00:29:56,208 have reported bizarre aerial phenomena, 692 00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:58,792 potentially dating back thousands of years. 693 00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:03,917 So, are you from this area, directly? 694 00:30:04,042 --> 00:30:06,333 -Yes, I am. I grew up in Randlett, and -KANDUS: Okay. Okay. 695 00:30:06,458 --> 00:30:10,167 it's just, probably, like, maybe five miles down the road, here. 696 00:30:10,292 --> 00:30:11,500 And I was working at the treatment center... 697 00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:14,167 -And that is on tribal land? -COREY: That is on tribal land. 698 00:30:14,292 --> 00:30:16,167 You know, we did the graveyard shift. 699 00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:20,417 It was a Sunday, I remember that. 6:00 in the morning. 700 00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:24,500 Um, it was dark, quiet. It was foggy outside, it was weird. 701 00:30:24,667 --> 00:30:28,625 And the TV did this weird pixilation thing, 702 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:30,208 and the power went out. 703 00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:33,458 So I went up, got up to get the flashlight, 704 00:30:33,542 --> 00:30:36,875 and there's lights coming from outside, above the building. 705 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,500 -TOM: Really? -What? 706 00:30:38,625 --> 00:30:41,000 COREY: And it was like... seeing this big old light 707 00:30:41,125 --> 00:30:42,167 above our building. 708 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:44,667 It was pretty fascinating, 'cause it was red, 709 00:30:44,792 --> 00:30:48,167 blue and green, hovering above the building. 710 00:30:50,083 --> 00:30:52,250 -I was scared. -Yeah, sure, sure. 711 00:30:52,375 --> 00:30:54,125 -How big was this? -Uh, it was probably 712 00:30:54,208 --> 00:30:55,333 about big as a small plane. 713 00:30:55,458 --> 00:30:57,625 TOM: Wow, that's amazing. 714 00:30:57,708 --> 00:31:00,167 How high was it in the air? What would be your guess? 715 00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:02,833 Maybe about 25 feet. 716 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,333 -Okay. -It's close. -It's... 717 00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:06,333 -It was over the roof. -COREY: Yeah, it was just over the roof, 718 00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:08,167 hovering over the roof, 719 00:31:08,292 --> 00:31:10,417 then the lights coming from underneath it. 720 00:31:10,542 --> 00:31:13,250 And in my mind I'm like, "Man, that's a UFO." 721 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:23,042 It was just over the roof, hovering over the roof. 722 00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,333 Then the lights coming from underneath it. 723 00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:28,375 And in my mind I'm like, "Man, that's a UFO," you know? 724 00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,125 And then how long was it there? 725 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:35,167 I'd say probably close to maybe 30 minutes 726 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,042 -to 40 minutes. -My gosh, that's just crazy. 727 00:31:37,167 --> 00:31:40,375 As quickly as it lit up, it went black. 728 00:31:40,542 --> 00:31:42,542 -Like, it turned off the lights. -TOM: Did you see it again? 729 00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,542 -Did you see... -No, we didn't see it again. 730 00:31:44,667 --> 00:31:45,875 -It was just gone? -It was just gone. 731 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,375 -Was there any sound involved with this? -COREY: No. 732 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,250 That was the crazy thing. The ship itself-- the UFO-- 733 00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:54,000 did not make any noise. 734 00:31:54,125 --> 00:31:56,208 There was no sound at all. 735 00:31:56,333 --> 00:32:00,333 Seeing what I saw was a really big experience. 736 00:32:00,458 --> 00:32:02,333 KANDUS: It's crazy, 'cause some of the things 737 00:32:02,458 --> 00:32:05,500 Corey was telling us are identical, almost, 738 00:32:05,625 --> 00:32:08,042 to what officer Kearney was telling us. 739 00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:10,208 There's a pattern going on here. 740 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:13,333 What would be the advice of the elders? 741 00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:16,167 Do they basically advise you after you experience 742 00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,167 something as profound as that? 743 00:32:18,292 --> 00:32:20,708 Some elders say, "Don't say anything. 744 00:32:20,833 --> 00:32:24,500 -Don't mention it. Don't talk about it." -Yeah, I know. 745 00:32:24,625 --> 00:32:29,333 Why do the elders ask you not to talk about things like this? 746 00:32:29,458 --> 00:32:34,458 I think in our tradition, if you see something like a UFO, 747 00:32:34,542 --> 00:32:36,417 skinwalker, you know, something like that, 748 00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:38,167 you don't talk about it 749 00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,625 because you don't want to have that negativeness 750 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:44,292 come back from that to you, your family. 751 00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:48,542 The history, the ethnography of-of these legends 752 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,667 sometimes take picture form, like petroglyphs 753 00:32:51,792 --> 00:32:53,667 or pictographs. Have you ever seen anything? 754 00:32:53,792 --> 00:32:54,958 You should check out McConkie Ranch. 755 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,958 You see ones that look like the humans, like regular, 756 00:32:59,083 --> 00:33:01,458 you know, indigenous humans, and then the other ones 757 00:33:01,542 --> 00:33:05,833 that look like something, maybe an alien type. 758 00:33:05,958 --> 00:33:08,417 TOM: We're definitely gonna go check out McConkie Ranch. 759 00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:11,667 I think it would be wise for us to get, uh, 760 00:33:11,792 --> 00:33:16,042 somebody that can help us interpret these petroglyphs, um, 761 00:33:16,167 --> 00:33:17,583 give us another point of view. 762 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:20,417 Can't wait to get up there and check it out. 763 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:24,000 Well, Corey, thank you so much for coming 764 00:33:24,167 --> 00:33:25,750 on the ranch, sharing your story. 765 00:33:25,875 --> 00:33:27,667 I appreciate you guys having me out here. 766 00:33:27,792 --> 00:33:29,708 TOM: With all these stories, 767 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:32,667 very similar stories being told to us, 768 00:33:32,792 --> 00:33:34,708 it makes you wonder, wh... you know, 769 00:33:34,833 --> 00:33:37,833 when does that change from, you know, 770 00:33:37,958 --> 00:33:41,875 mythology, lore, to a fact? 771 00:33:42,042 --> 00:33:44,667 -JIM: Thank you. -Thanks for taking all this time. 772 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:46,917 -Yeah, no problem. -Yeah. It's been fun. 773 00:33:57,542 --> 00:33:59,458 -THOMAS: There they are. -Hey, guys. 774 00:33:59,583 --> 00:34:00,417 -How's it going? -Hey. Brandon. 775 00:34:00,542 --> 00:34:01,583 -Good to see you guys. -Hey, Brandon. 776 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:02,708 -Good to see you. -Good to be back. 777 00:34:02,833 --> 00:34:05,125 TRAVIS: After everything our team 778 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:06,583 heard this week and also 779 00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:08,958 experienced with the representatives from UAPx, 780 00:34:09,042 --> 00:34:11,333 we really needed to meet with Brandon and figure out 781 00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:14,542 what our next move would be for this investigation. 782 00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:16,875 Well, tell me what's been going on. 783 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,750 We have some things to share with you about some activities 784 00:34:19,875 --> 00:34:23,042 that we conducted. In particular, when we had the guys 785 00:34:23,167 --> 00:34:26,125 from UAPx join us here on the ranch. 786 00:34:26,208 --> 00:34:27,625 We had some interesting things happen 787 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,167 with equipment. We had some things seen 788 00:34:30,292 --> 00:34:32,125 in the sky over the ranch. 789 00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,083 Really? 790 00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:36,167 Well, I would love to see this footage. 791 00:34:36,292 --> 00:34:37,542 Okay, well, I have it queued up. 792 00:34:40,292 --> 00:34:41,833 TRAVIS: So, this is out at the triangle, 793 00:34:41,917 --> 00:34:43,083 -looking to the west. -There it is. You see it. 794 00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:44,292 You see it appear in the sky... 795 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,875 -...as a bright, shiny sphere. -BRYANT: You see that, Brandon? 796 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,250 BRANDON: Yeah. 797 00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:52,958 So, Brandon, you can see it right here. 798 00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,042 -Right. -BRYANT: Right? And, so, 799 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,667 we pointed that out, 800 00:34:56,792 --> 00:34:59,708 and the gentleman from UAPx looked up at it 801 00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:01,500 and was startled 802 00:35:01,625 --> 00:35:05,167 and said, "That looks just like what I saw 803 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:07,417 during the Tic Tac." 804 00:35:07,542 --> 00:35:11,333 And he's like, "I've never seen that since then." 805 00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:18,917 So, former military 806 00:35:19,042 --> 00:35:20,875 who have gone on record before 807 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,917 relative to witnessing 808 00:35:23,042 --> 00:35:24,458 unidentified aerial phenomena, 809 00:35:24,583 --> 00:35:26,583 here on Skinwalker Ranch, 810 00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:30,375 -witnessed similar phenomena -TRAVIS: He-he said... 811 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:32,125 -and you captured it on video? -Yep. 812 00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:34,625 It-It's really interesting. 813 00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:36,417 BRANDON: How many times 814 00:35:36,542 --> 00:35:38,417 have we had UFO events 815 00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:40,500 occur in broad daylight above the ranch? 816 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,833 And the interesting thing is 817 00:35:44,958 --> 00:35:47,292 their OSIRIS vehicle-- they would get it set up. 818 00:35:47,417 --> 00:35:49,000 Everything looks good. We're ready to go. 819 00:35:49,125 --> 00:35:50,833 "All right, well, we're good over here at the triangle. 820 00:35:50,917 --> 00:35:54,458 We're about to launch the rocket in five, four, three..." 821 00:35:54,542 --> 00:35:56,917 The OSIRIS system would go out. Then we'd get ready 822 00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:59,333 to do the next launch. Same thing happened. 823 00:35:59,417 --> 00:36:01,667 It's like somebody just pulled the entire plug, 824 00:36:01,792 --> 00:36:03,292 and all the power to the truck just went out. 825 00:36:03,375 --> 00:36:04,417 Wow. 826 00:36:04,542 --> 00:36:05,958 TRAVIS: I... 827 00:36:06,042 --> 00:36:07,542 It makes no sense. It's like 828 00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:08,667 when we were launching the rocket 829 00:36:08,792 --> 00:36:10,750 up through that anomalous spot in the triangle 830 00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:13,500 that something didn't want that truck to gather data. 831 00:36:13,625 --> 00:36:15,917 BRYANT: And, Brandon, there was actually 832 00:36:16,042 --> 00:36:19,083 a-a disturbing incident that happened when they were here. 833 00:36:19,208 --> 00:36:22,583 One of the former military guys, 834 00:36:22,708 --> 00:36:24,375 he was sitting right where you're sitting 835 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:29,000 and all of the sudden just had a big medical episode. 836 00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:30,542 Really? 837 00:36:33,542 --> 00:36:34,625 That seems insidious. 838 00:36:34,708 --> 00:36:36,917 When I bought the ranch, 839 00:36:37,042 --> 00:36:38,583 I'd heard reports 840 00:36:38,708 --> 00:36:42,583 that former military personnel visiting the ranch 841 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:45,667 had such disturbing experiences 842 00:36:45,792 --> 00:36:48,500 that they refused to ever come back. 843 00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:51,542 Which would imply that it's an outside energy. 844 00:36:51,708 --> 00:36:54,083 -Yeah. -BRANDON: Yeah. The fact that something 845 00:36:54,208 --> 00:36:55,875 would be interfering 846 00:36:56,042 --> 00:36:59,500 with a guest here at Skinwalker Ranch 847 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:02,542 that is part of the expanded investigation 848 00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:05,458 points to, I think, 849 00:37:05,542 --> 00:37:08,000 malevolent intent. 850 00:37:15,125 --> 00:37:16,667 TRAVIS: The question is 851 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:18,667 is it malicious of humanity's doing? 852 00:37:18,792 --> 00:37:20,000 Or is it malicious of some other doing 853 00:37:20,125 --> 00:37:21,583 that we can't explain? 854 00:37:22,583 --> 00:37:24,500 BRANDON: Can you ascribe these events 855 00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:26,458 including electromagnetic anomalies, 856 00:37:26,542 --> 00:37:28,375 acute medical episodes 857 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,375 correlated with unidentified aerial phenomena 858 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:34,667 -with mankind, with something that we're aware of? -Not... Cer... 859 00:37:34,792 --> 00:37:37,833 Certainly not all of them, Brandon. 860 00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:40,000 I can't say for sure what we've experienced is being 861 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:43,333 caused by something man-made, but Brandon has a point. 862 00:37:43,458 --> 00:37:45,625 We're recording more and more evidence 863 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:49,000 that unnatural events are occurring on Skinwalker Ranch. 864 00:37:49,083 --> 00:37:51,750 We just don't have enough data to make an educated guess 865 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:54,792 on what they are and why they're happening. 866 00:37:55,792 --> 00:37:59,792 So, why do these events continue to occur above the triangle? 867 00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:02,333 -BRYANT: Hmm. -I-It's really interesting. 868 00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:03,750 ERIK: Why the triangle? Are there 869 00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:06,750 any special physical, uh, properties out there 870 00:38:06,875 --> 00:38:08,583 that we're unaware of? You know, would have to relate 871 00:38:08,708 --> 00:38:10,083 to geology somehow. Or some artifact. 872 00:38:10,208 --> 00:38:11,458 -Right. -TRAVIS: So, 873 00:38:11,542 --> 00:38:13,625 there really is no 874 00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:16,667 logical explanation for it. 875 00:38:16,792 --> 00:38:20,167 Which lends us to-to at least wonder 876 00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:22,208 if there's a wormhole or portal. 877 00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:25,333 TRAVIS: I don't know. Some kind 878 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:26,875 of science fiction phenomenon happening, 879 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,708 like a black hole or wormhole. 880 00:38:28,875 --> 00:38:31,250 But nobody on this planet has the knowledge 881 00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:34,000 to build something that does all of these phenomena. 882 00:38:34,125 --> 00:38:36,708 And to be able to target specific individuals, 883 00:38:36,833 --> 00:38:38,333 whether it be Thomas Winterton, 884 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,542 whether it be this former military, 885 00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:43,000 whether it be Travis. 886 00:38:43,083 --> 00:38:45,625 TRAVIS: Yeah. Let me... Let me tell you, 887 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:47,458 out of the amount of experiments we've done 888 00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:49,542 and the number of anomalies 889 00:38:49,667 --> 00:38:51,708 that we've measured, seen, captured, 890 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:55,500 even if we end up explaining 891 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,167 90% of them, 892 00:38:57,292 --> 00:39:01,167 that ten percent is so unexplainable that there's 893 00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:02,875 something to this 894 00:39:03,042 --> 00:39:04,375 that we've got to wrap our minds around. 895 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:06,292 Hundred percent. 896 00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:07,792 What could we be doing 897 00:39:07,875 --> 00:39:11,208 to explore that area in a more active way? 898 00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,208 ERIK: We do have some ideas 899 00:39:12,333 --> 00:39:14,875 about what we could do to explore the space. 900 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,667 You know, volumetric studies that involve going into the air 901 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:19,875 and taking measurements with our instruments. 902 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,833 BRANDON: Can we-can we move quickly 903 00:39:21,958 --> 00:39:24,292 to start exploring that in light of these events? 904 00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:26,875 -We-We've already... -I don't want to miss a window of time. 905 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,792 Here's the thing I'm-I'm concerned with, 906 00:39:28,917 --> 00:39:31,875 is we're seeing activity on a whole new level. 907 00:39:32,042 --> 00:39:35,083 TRAVIS: Well, I think the right way to go about it, uh, is 908 00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:38,833 we've got to put as many sensors in that area over the ranch 909 00:39:38,958 --> 00:39:41,500 that stay there as long as possible. 910 00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:44,458 Probably something like some small airplane, right? 911 00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,833 Well, let's-let's proceed. 912 00:39:46,958 --> 00:39:49,750 Let's try to procure those resources immediately, 913 00:39:49,875 --> 00:39:53,542 especially while we have these events occurring, 914 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:56,542 and take advantage of this opportunity 915 00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:59,583 to-to explore that region above the triangle 916 00:39:59,708 --> 00:40:02,417 in a more aggressive fashion. 917 00:40:02,542 --> 00:40:04,542 -Very good. Well, thank you for all of your help. -TRAVIS: All right. 918 00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:08,250 -Good to see you again, Brandon. -Dr. Taylor. 919 00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:11,500 ERIK: Typically, we apply the tools and methods of science 920 00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:13,208 to test a hypothesis. 921 00:40:13,375 --> 00:40:14,833 But I must say, 922 00:40:14,917 --> 00:40:17,292 very often, the outcome is something 923 00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:21,167 completely outside of the scope of our expectations. 924 00:40:21,292 --> 00:40:23,542 We are nowhere near finished 925 00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:25,292 with our investigation of the ranch, 926 00:40:25,417 --> 00:40:26,958 and as mysterious events continue, 927 00:40:27,083 --> 00:40:29,750 so, also, will this investigation. 928 00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:33,208 TRAVIS: There's something special about the triangle, 929 00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:34,958 but what does that mean? 930 00:40:35,042 --> 00:40:38,000 Is that something like a gravitational anomaly? 931 00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:41,875 A gateway? A doorway? A wormhole? 932 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,958 We don't know, but this tells us we've got to do 933 00:40:44,083 --> 00:40:46,833 a lot more detailed experimentation 934 00:40:46,958 --> 00:40:50,000 of that area with more sensors, 935 00:40:50,167 --> 00:40:51,542 and the experiment has got to tell us 936 00:40:51,708 --> 00:40:53,125 what's going on there. 937 00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:56,167 BRANDON: We've seen physical evidence 938 00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:58,667 that what we are dealing with at Skinwalker Ranch 939 00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:01,042 is not to be taken lightly. 940 00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:04,542 It seems like something continues to push back on us 941 00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:06,542 and-and create obstacles. 942 00:41:06,708 --> 00:41:08,583 We are onto something. 943 00:41:08,708 --> 00:41:10,417 This is the time to charge forward 944 00:41:10,542 --> 00:41:12,000 to better understand 945 00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:14,708 the strange activity at Skinwalker Ranch. 946 00:41:20,125 --> 00:41:22,167 We want to get your opinion on this location. 947 00:41:22,333 --> 00:41:26,292 This area is used to keep the evil on that side. 948 00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:30,250 Hey, Travis. I'm seeing the shadow of some other aircraft. 949 00:41:30,375 --> 00:41:34,250 There's nothing within 50 miles of the ranch. 950 00:41:34,375 --> 00:41:36,667 We are not seeing you 951 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:39,167 -on the ADS-B. -(static crackling) 952 00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:40,750 (staticky): I don't know what's going on. 953 00:41:40,875 --> 00:41:43,500 BRYANT: Something doesn't want us 954 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:45,250 to collect data from the triangle. 955 00:41:47,292 --> 00:41:49,417 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 76953

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