All language subtitles for The Two Popes.en

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[man] I... I know I can book it
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but, uh, you know,
I've only just moved here.

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Bergoglio. Jorge Bergoglio.

[operator] Like the pope?

[Bergoglio chuckles] Oh, well...
Well, yes. Uh, in fact, um...

[operator] Postcode?

[Bergoglio] I'm... I'm not sure, um...
Vatican City.

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[dial tone buzzes]

[choral music playing]

[children shouting]

[Bergoglio, in Spanish] Once,
a young man was walking

in the woods.

His name was Francesco Bernardone.

Suddenly, he found a chapel...

ruined,

with the walls destroyed.

He stepped inside.

A crucifix was still there,

where the altar had been.

[indistinct chatter]

[Bergoglio] Francesco felt captivated.

The crucifix spoke to him and said,

“Francesco, repair my Church.”

[man shouting]

[Bergoglio] Francesco was a practical man.

He went up to the quarry on Mount Subasio,

cut stones,

carted them down the mountain,

and repaired the broken walls.

[over speakers] Any journey,

no matter how long...

has to start somewhere.

[feedback squeals]

[Bergoglio] Any journey,
no matter how glorious,

can start with a mistake.

So, when you feel lost,

don’t worry.

God will not give up.

Understood?

[crowd] Sí.

Understood?

[crowd] ¡Sí!

[Bergoglio] I’ve been thinking...

We have many troubles here.

It’s not fair to leave it all to Our Lady.

Who else could pray for us?

Let's see... young man!

What’s your name?

- Lorenzo!
- [Bergoglio] Ah!

The name of my team, San Lorenzo!

[crowd cheers and jeers]

No, no, no, no.

San Lorenzo, pray for us...

[crowd replies]

[indistinct chatter]

[speaking Spanish]

[church bell ringing]

- [excited chatter]
- [dance music playing on radio]

[church bell continues ringing]

[woman] Father.

The pope...

The pope has died.

[solemn choral music playing]

[Bergoglio, in Italian] Brothers
and sisters,

our beloved Holy Father John Paul II

has returned to the Lord's house.

[reporter, in English] He was a champion
of human rights

who fought for justice for the poor

and reached out across all faiths
for unity.

But in sharp contrast,
John Paul II's papacy

also marked a clear end to liberalization

and a return
to the Church's harsh condemnation

- of homosexuality, abortion...
- [wind howling]

...contraception,

and the ordination of women
and married men.

[indistinct chatter]

[man, in Italian] This?

[cardinal] Archbishop of Kiev,
Cardinal Husar.

[man] Good.

This?

Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria.

Many say he will be
the first African pope.

Good. This?

Bergoglio, Argentina.

Leading advocate for reform.
Very popular in...

I know who he is.

[man] This?

- [cardinal] Cardinal Martini.
- [reporter 1] In Catholic churches,

people are praying for cardinals
in charge of electing the new pope.

[reporter 2]...farewell to the pope,

the cardinals of the Catholic Church
have gathered in Rome

to elect a new pontiff...

In Rome, 115 cardinals from 52 countries

have been praying to elect a new pope.

[reporter 3]...prepared,
deeply spiritual,

but, nonetheless, very political.

[reporter 4, in French] They will choose
between tradition and reform.

[reporter 5, in English]
The media's predicting a dispute

between the German conservative,
Joseph Ratzinger,

and the Italian reformist, Carlo Martini.

[reporter 6] Ratzinger is a central figure
in the Vatican

and has long been considered
the natural successor to John Paul II.

- [Bergoglio whistling "Dancing Queen"]
- [water running]

[in Latin] What's the hymn
you are whistling?

"Dancing Queen."

By ABBA.

Ah!

- [continues whistling "Dancing Queen"]
- [in English] That's good.

[chuckles] ABBA.

[in Italian] Good afternoon.

- [man] Buona sera.
- [Ratzinger] Dobro pozhalovat.

Buona sera. Willkommen.

Benvenuti.

[in Italian] The Church is too used
to this glory.

This is Europe...

Our churches are beautiful but empty,

like a fire covered in ash.

We need someone to blow the ash away.

You.

Someone outside of Europe is better.

[Bergoglio] No, Martini. Not me.

- [Martini] Cardinale Ratzinger.
- Ah... [chuckles]

[chuckling]

[in German] Thank you
for the beautiful sermon.

You are welcome.

[in Portuguese] Cardinal Hummes,
life was easier

when everybody spoke Latin.

Nice to see you.

[chuckles]

Ah.

- [indistinct chatter]
- Oh. [sighs]

[in Spanish] No "nice to see you"
for you, Jorge.

No.

- [bells ringing]
- [all singing hymn in Latin]

[camera shutter clicking]

[in French] The cardinals are
about to vote.

[reporter 1, in English]
...cardinals make

a formal procession
into the Sistine Chapel...

[reporter 2] The cardinals'
only communication

with the outside world
will be through that chimney.

White smoke means a new pope.

...black when there's no result.

[media broadcasts
in various languages overlap]

[speaking Spanish]

[instrumental version
of "Dancing Queen" playing]

[man speaking Latin]

[reporter 3, in English]
...the Vatican this evening.

The first ballot
could be taking place right now.

[reporter 4] There might be a vote today.

...grand doors have slammed shut
and will remain...

[speaking Spanish]

[in English] Only then will we find out
the identity of our new pope.

- [doors slam]
- [lock clicks]

[bell chimes]

[soft scratching]

[pen clicks]

[pen clicks]

[Ratzinger, in Latin]
I call as my witness Christ the Lord,

who will judge me,
that I elect the one who I deem...

[pen clicks]

...should be chosen according to God.

[clinks]

[cardinals repeating vow]

[clinks]

[clinking echoing]

[vows overlapping]

[clangs]

Martini Cardinalis.

[reel squeaks]

Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[reel squeaks]

Ratzinger Cardinalis.

[reel squeaks]

[scrutineer] Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[reel squeaks]

[scrutineer]Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[echoing] Ratzinger Cardinalis.
Ratzinger Cardinalis.

Martini... Ratzinger...
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[names overlapping indistinctly]

[bell chimes]

[in Italian] The results
of the first scrutiny...

Joseph Ratzinger, 47 votes.

Jorge Bergoglio, ten votes.

[latch clicks]

[scrutineer] Carlo Maria Martini...

nine votes.

[machine whirs]

[crowd groans]

[in English] It is black.

This means
that no candidate has achieved...

[in Spanish]...no cardinal obtained
the 77 votes needed.

[excited chatter]

[Bergoglio, in English]
It's just ten votes.

[Turkson] No one
from the Southern Hemisphere

has had so many before.

- The world just tipped on its axis.
- [Hummes] Martini got nine.

So, it's 19 votes for a real change.

If he tells his followers
to transfer their votes to you...

Reform needs a politician.

Hm?

Transfer your votes to Martini.
He has worked for reform for years.

It's too late for that.

What?

[Hummes] He's already asked anyone
who voted for him to vote for you instead.

No, please.

"The most important qualification
for any leader

is not wanting to be leader."

Plato.

So...

that's why it must not be Ratzinger.

He really wants it.

I think the Church faces, uh, um,

- a great danger. Serious danger.
- [pen clicks]

We need one common point of reference.

- Only one unchanging, eternal truth.
- [clatters]

Only one unchanging...

- Only one unchanging, eternal truth.
- [clatters]

You think he really wants it?
Being pope is like being a martyr.

[indistinct chatter]

[bell chimes]

[man speaking Italian]

[scrutineer, in Italian] The results...

of the third scrutiny...

[latch clicks]

...are the following:

[crowd cheers]

[in English] It's white! It's white!

[in Spanish] It's white!

[reporter 1 speaking French]

[reporter 2] Habemus Papam!

[in English] We have a new pope!

That will be the words announced
from that balcony up there.

[cardinal speaking Italian over speakers]

[speaking Spanish over speakers]

[speaking French over speakers]

[speaking German over speakers]

[speaking Latin over speakers]

Habemus Papam.

[crowd cheering]

[cardinal continues speaking Latin
over speakers]

[bells ringing]

[camera shutter clicking]

[crowd cheers]

[cardinal] Cardinale...

Ratzinger!

[crowd roars]

[cardinal continues speaking Latin
over speakers]

[man, in English] I think that,
rather than a victory for conservatives,

the election of Cardinal Ratzinger

is actually a demonstration
of the unity of the Church.

There weren't great divisions

within the College of Cardinals.

That it was a fairly easy choice

to go with Cardinal Ratzinger...

[wind whipping]

[in Spanish] Jorge, what will you do now?

Return to Buenos Aires,

plan my retirement.

You're too young to retire.

[Bergoglio] The Church voted to make
overdue reforms remain overdue.

I can do more good
as a simple parish priest.

[in Portuguese] Okay.

[bells ringing]

[in Spanish] I'll pray for him.

[gentle piano music playing]

[in English]
Joseph Ratzinger has a sharp mind.

He's, uh, an intellectual...

[man 1] He's the...
the watchdog of the faith.

[woman 1, in French]
This protects the Doctrine of the Faith.

[woman 2, in English]
He's gonna fight... relativism.

[reporter] What do you mean by that?

Well, I mean,
he's... he's going to stand up for dogma.

He's gonna be a great pope.

Oh, my God, this is the best...
I can't believe it.

[man 2, in Portuguese]
He's already started with "no."

"No against this, no against that..."

It's bad for the poor in Brazil
and the poor in the world.

[woman 3, in Spanish]
People are abandoning Catholicism

because it is too conservative.

[in English] I know Ratzinger.
The Nazi shouldn't have been elected.

[bell chimes]

[electric razor buzzing]

[classical music playing over radio]

[in Spanish] Bye, bye.

[both speaking Spanish]

Don't buy Tonio's stamps.

- Oh... [laughs]
- They don't work.

There’s nothing wrong with them.

I wrote a beautiful letter, and no reply.

Heh.

Sent it again, still no reply.

Your stamps don't work.

Doesn't matter how good your letter was,
Jorge,

San Lorenzo will never call you.

[both laugh]

Maybe you used the wrong address.

Impossible.

It’s a well-known address.

To whom?

The pope.

[woman] Oh!

So...

Tonio's stamps work.

I have your letters,
and this is from the Vatican.

Gracias.

Why the pope?

I booked my flight.

- Seriously?
- Mm-hmm.

What's so urgent?

You want to retire?

Eh... sí.

No!

Don't do it.

Oh...

We need you in Buenos Aires.[sighs]

He wants me in Rome.

I booked my flight before this.

A coincidence...

There are no coincidences.

We are all in God's hands.

[woman] Mm-hmm.

[praying in Latin]

[reporter 1, in English]
We turn next to the Vatican

and the stunning accusation
that's the talk of Rome.

[thunder rumbles]

Confidential Church documents
were allegedly leaked to the press...

[reporter 2] Ridden with factionalism,
malpractice by the Vatican Bank,

- and even sexual misconduct.
- [coughs]

[reporter 3] Who would have believed
that one of the pope's most trusted aides,

the man who helped, is under arrest?

[speaking Italian]

[reporter 4] ...leaking embarrassing
confidential Vatican documents...

[reporter 5]
This dossier has only been read

- by one guy: Pope Benedict XVI...
- [siren wails]

...so he's fully aware of the issues...

[reporter 6]
The whole thing is a holy mess.

[reporter 7] There's no clarity as
to what happens behind those closed doors.

[officer speaking Spanish]

[indistinct chatter over PA]

[thunder rumbles in distance]

[plane engine roars]

[indistinct chatter over PA]

[Bergoglio] Ah, sì.

[in Italian] Good morning.

[in English] Are you
the cardinal archbishop of Buenos Aires?

[Bergoglio] Yes.

- Oh, Eminence, please...
- No, no, no, no, it's fine.

- [in Italian] Buongiorno. How are you?
- Good, thank you.

[in English] The car is just out here.

[Bergoglio speaks Italian]

[driver] This way.

May I?

- Oh, grazie.
- Grazie.

Oh, Eminence... E-Eminence...

No, no, I prefer to ride up front.

- Grazie.
- Oh, very well.

[engine starts]

[Bergoglio] It's a beautiful car.

- [driver] Thank you, Eminence.
- [Bergoglio] Very comfortable.

[motorcycle engine revs]

[Bergoglio] This is the way to Rome?

[driver] No, no, Eminence.
The pope is in his summer residence.

Oh. Summer residence. Ah.

[slaps hands on lap]

Perhaps that's why
he didn't get my letter.

[driver] Uh, Eminence, forgive me, but...

[stammers]...he prefers to see
his bishops dressed like bishops

and his cardinals like cardinals.

Oh, really?

Y-You have a spare cardinal's hat?

[both chuckle]

[bell ringing]

[assistant, in Italian] Yes.
It's a private matter,

so it's not in the official diary.

[indistinct chatter]

[assistant] He is reading the report.

Yes, His Holiness is aware.

I'll ask if he can speak to him.

Your Holiness.

- Would you speak to Cardinal Bertone?
- Ah...

[assistant] I have him here.

Ah. Grazie.

[nun, in English]
His Holiness will join you shortly.

[Bergoglio] Ah.

Ah. Does the Holy Father meet
his cardinals here often?

[nun] No. Uh, it's the first time.

[Bergoglio chuckles] Oh, it's... it's...
it's not raining.

[nun sighs] Oh.

In Rome, one never knows
what will happen next.

- [both chuckle]
- [Bergoglio] Grazie.

[tapping rhythmically]

[man whistling]

[Benedict, in Italian] Where is he?

Looks like he's lived here all his life.

Oregano, exactly.

[sniffs]

My mother swore by oregano.

[sniffs]

It makes everything taste good.

My mom mixes it with breadcrumbs.

- [Bergoglio] Me too.
- [gardener] Really?

[Bergoglio] Yes!

[gardener] Bravo!

Everything the pope eats comes
from Gandolfo.

We send it to Rome. It's all organic.

Vegetables, eggs, cheese.

Ah, Santo Padre. Ah.

- [in Spanish] Good morning!
- [Bergoglio, in Latin] Holiness.

[Benedict chuckles] Buongiorno.

Ah...

[in Latin] Last time we met,
we spoke Latin.

[Bergoglio chuckles]

[in Latin] A short meeting.

I wasn't the student you were,
Holy Father.

Please, not Latin.

- [kisses hand]
- Ah.

[in English]
Ah, Latin is useful. Especially when...

I have to announce bad news to cardinals.

Only 20 percent of them... become angry

as only 20 percent of them know
what I have said.

[Bergoglio chuckles]

[Benedict]
I'm sorry to have kept you waiting.

I know you... value punctuality.

Uh, Paolo, my last assistant,

he would have made sure
I got here on time.

- He was, uh...
- [chuckles]

- He was perfect, you know? [chuckles]
- Now he's in jail.

Yeah.

Would you prefer to walk?

- Well, that might not be wise.
- Huh?

Your shoelaces are undone.

- [Bergoglio chuckles] Oh.
- [Benedict] Yeah.

[Bergoglio] Um...

[Benedict grunts]

You wrote to me asking for permission
to retire as cardinal archbishop?

Yes, uh...

I have my papers here.

Uh, cardinals are not required to ask
for their retirement until they're 75.

Are you ill?

- I have a problem with my lungs.
- [Benedict] I know,

but you were born with that,
and it's not really troubled you since,

has it?

It's in your file.

- [Bergoglio] My file?
- We keep files on everyone.

So you don't have to be flattered.

[Bergoglio] No, I, uh...

- I'm not ill.
- [Benedict] No.

In fact, you're very active.

You walk everywhere
and, uh, sometimes use a bicycle.

[Bergoglio] Yeah, and I tango once a week.

Tango is dance?

- [Bergoglio] I'm Argentinian.
- Oh.

Tango and football are compulsory.

Of course, yeah. You dance with someone?

Uh, I... One might look rather foolish
dancing alone.

[Benedict laughs]

So, for the sake of the dignity
of my office, yes, with someone.

Of course, that's good. Please.

- [sniffles, clicks tongue, sighs]
- Yes.

You've been one of my harshest critics,

and there's a lot of competition
for that title.

I've never spoken out against you.

No, not directly, but, um...

you refuse to live in the official palace
of the cardinal archbishops.

Sí, it's too grand. It's too big.

Ah... [chuckles]

By being so, um... pure and simple,

you imply the rest of us
are not living simply enough.

Can one ever...

- live simply enough?
- [chuckles softly]

On, uh... married priests.

I was misquoted.

I said, "Celibacy can be a blessing.
It can also be a curse."

Yeah. And on homosexuality?

All I said was...

- [Benedict] No doubt, misquoted again?
- [sighs] Taken out of context.

Aha... But might I suggest
you try telling the newspapers

the opposite of what you think?

Your chances of being quoted correctly
might, therefore, improve.

[sniffles, chuckles]

Another thing: you openly give sacraments

to those who are out of communion.

To the divorced, for instance.

Oh, I believe
that giving communion is not a reward

for the virtuous,

it is food for the starving.

Ah.

So, what matters is what you believe,

but not what the Church has taught
for hundreds of years?

No, no, no.

Mark, chapter two, verse 17,
"I came to call sinners,"

as the Church has taught
for thousands of years.

If we do not draw a line...

Or build walls to separate...

You talk about walls
as if they are bad things.

- A house is built of walls. Strong walls.
- Ah...

Did Jesus build walls?

His face is a face of mercy.

The bigger the sinner,
the warmer the welcome.

Mercy is the dynamite
that blows down walls.

- Yeah.
- [fly buzzes]

You have an answer for everything,
don't you?

[watch beeps] Don't stop now.

- Keep moving.
- [Benedict] I have to walk. Let's go.

[watch beeps]

- Don't stop now. Keep moving.
- [Benedict] You're clever. Far too clever.

[watch] Keep moving.

[Benedict] You see my dilemma.

You're very eloquent, you're very popular.

If I allow you to resign,
it will look like a protest.

The Church being attacked from all sides,

why would you want to abandon her
to her enemies?

Does a shepherd run away
when the wolves appear?

I'm not running away.

I’ll take a parish.
I’ll be a good shepherd to its people.

Don't you understand?
You were almost elected pope.

If you resign,
it will look like a criticism.

The way you live is a criticism.
Your shoes are a criticism.

You don't like my shoes? [laughs]

[Benedict] Please, do not make a joke
of everything I say. Please.

It is dishonest and cynical.

Have enough respect to show me
your real anger.

Do you think the Church is failing?

- Well, we are losing people.
- And that is the fault of the Church?

Not of... of... Western relativism,
or permissiveness,

or what do they say now?
Oh, yes, "Anything goes."

Yeah.

You said the Church is narcissistic.

- Or was that another misquote?
- No, no, I did say that.

It seems to me that your Church...

- My Church?
- [Bergoglio] Our Church...

- Oh.
- ...is moving in directions

that I can no longer condone,

or... or not moving at all

when the time demands movement.

- [fly buzzes]
- [Bergoglio] Holy Father...

I no longer wish to be a salesman.

- A salesman?
- [Bergoglio] It's a metaphor.

A salesman for a product.

A product?

A salesman for a product that I...
[scoffs]

- I cannot, in all conscience, endorse.
- That you don't believe in?

It seems to me
that we are no longer part of this world.

We don't belong to it.

We are not connected.

[sighs]

"A Church that marries
the spirit of the age..."

[Bergoglio] Yes,
"...will be widowed in the next."

- Yeah.
- [Bergoglio] I know.

[takes a deep breath] Holy Father...

When you were leader
of the Jesuits in Argentina,

you had all the books on Marxism removed
from the library.

And I made seminarians wear cassocks
all day,

even when they were working
in the vegetable garden.

And I called civil marriage
for homosexuals the Devil's plan.

- [Benedict] You were not unlike me.
- No.

I changed.

- No, you compromised.
- [Bergoglio] No. No compromise.

- No, I changed.
- Com...

It's a different thing.

[clicks tongue, sighs]

[clicks tongue]

- [grunts]
- Fath...

[mutters]

Change is compromise.

[Bergoglio] Life...

the life He gave us,

is all change.

You are the successor to San Pietro.

San Pietro was married.

Oh, thank you for letting me know.
I had no idea.

We didn't ask priests to be celibate
until the 12th century.

- Hm.
- Angels? [chuckles]

No mention before the fifth century,

and suddenly, angels are everywhere,

like... like pigeons.

Nothing is static in nature

or the universe,

not even God.

God does not change.

Yes, He does.

- He moves towards us.
- "I am the way, the truth, and the life."

Where should we find Him
if He's always moving?

On the journey?

[Benedict] Oh...

This is your ego talking.

You think you know better.

I'm Argentinian.

- How does an Argentinian kill himself?
- Ah?

He climbs to the top of his ego
and jumps off.

[sarcastically] Ha-ha-ha!

I'm not familiar
with this part of the garden.

Where are we?

[Bergoglio] Um...

Maybe this way, where there is some shade?

Oh, yeah.

Perhaps we'll find God over there,
on the journey. I'll introduce you to Him.

We defend 2,000 years of tradition,

but Cardinal Bergoglio, he knows better.

No, no. We have spent these last years
disciplining anyone

who disagrees with our line on divorce,

on birth control, on being gay.

While our planet was being destroyed,

while inequality grew like a cancer,

we worried about whether it was all right
to speak the Mass in Latin,

whether, uh, girls should be allowed
to be altar servers.

We built walls around us,
and all the time,

all the time, the real danger was inside,

inside with us.

[insects chirping]

What are you talking about?

[Bergoglio]
I think you know what I'm talking about.

We knew there were priests, bishops,

great men of the Church
who preyed on children.

- And what did we do?
- We are addressing this.

We heard their confession,

then moved them on to another parish
where they could start all over again.

- We believed if they confessed...
- Oh, we believed it was better

if nine children suffered

than if nine million lost their faith
because of a scandal?

- No, of course not. That is grotesque.
- A bishop! A bishop said that to me!

Uh-huh, and how did you answer him?

I told him to remove the priest
from his ministry

and initiate a canonical trial.
Straight away.

I didn't believe a few magic words
from the priest

would make everything all right again.

Magic words?
Is that how you describe the sacrament?

Confession cleans the sinner's soul.

It does not help the victim.

Sin is a... a wound,

not a stain.

It needs to be healed, to be treated.

Forgiveness is not enough.

You say "we,"

- but you mean I'm the one to blame.
- [Bergoglio] No.

- Holy Father. Please.
- Your protest... Listen to me.

Your resignation is a protest
against the Holy See,

- and you're asking me to ratify it.
- No, no.

You say you no longer wish
to be cardinal archbishop.

I ask you, are you sure
you still wish to be a priest?

[insects chirping loudly]

I don't agree with anything you say.

[insects continue chirping]

- Ah, thank you.
- You're welcome.

The Holy Father has retired now
until dinner.

- Uh-huh.
- I'm to show you to your room.

My room?

Yes.

Come. Please.

But, uh...

[Bergoglio] What about His Holiness?

- [nun] The pope eats alone.
- Why?

[nun] He prefers it that way.

But he has arranged for you both
to eat the same meal.

[Bergoglio] Ah.

[nun] Just as his mother used to make it.

[Bergoglio sniffs] Oh.

- Huh?
- A typical Bavarian dish,

Knödel mit Soße.

[inhales deeply]

Well...

Yes, I know.

[both laugh]

- [engines revving on TV]
- [announcer speaking on TV]

- [engines continue revving on TV]
- [announcer continues speaking on TV]

After dinner, sometimes,
he comes here to relax.

[Bergoglio] Oh...

- It's beautiful, huh?
- [nun] Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

[Bergoglio] Well, Papa John.

- [nun] Yeah.
- [Bergoglio sighs]

[sniffs]

Se posso...

Certo.

Sì, grazie.

[reporter speaking Italian on TV]

- [nun] Arrivederci, eminenza.
- Oh, grazie.

[announcer speaking Italian on TV]

[watch beeping, in English] Bravo.
Well done.

You did 10,000 steps today.

- Congratulations.
- [Benedict] Ah, my goal.

My doctor gave it to me.[chuckles]

He said, "You are in good shape for 86
but very bad shape for a human being."

I believe this was a joke.

[announcer shouts on TV]

- [Benedict] No, no, please.
- No, no.

- [Benedict] No, no.
- No.

- [Benedict] Please.
- No.

- I know you love football.
- [Bergoglio] No.

- [TV clicks off]
- Oh.

I've never understood
the excitement myself.

Really? Not even during the World Cup?
Huh?

You know, your national team and mine,
we...

we could be in the final together
next year.

They could be a match for Argentina.

[exhales] Yeah. That's good.

[smacks lips]

[chuckles softly]

[Benedict] Hm...

Please sit. Uh.

Holy Father...

- I want you to look at my papers, please.
- No, no, no...

- No, this is... But my papers, I really...
- No, no, no, no, no, please.

[Bergoglio] Please, no,

- this is the reason I'm here.
- Nein.

I know you like to talk,
but I'm exhausted.

- [sighs]
- [Benedict] Please, sit down.

Let's just be quiet together. Please sit.

Good.

[both exhale]

- [Benedict] Get so tired.
- Hm.

[Benedict] Ah.

- Would you like a tea or coffee?
- No, thank you.

I find if I drink coffee
too late at night, I can't sleep.

[Benedict] Hm. Me too.

[Bergoglio] Hm.

[sighs]

Ah.

[clock ticking]

You know,
the hardest thing is to listen...

to hear His voice.

God's voice.

Sorry, even for a pope?

But perhaps especially for a pope.

[chuckles, coughing]

You know, when I was a young man,
hundreds of years ago,

I always knew what He wanted of me.
What God wanted, what...

purpose He had for me.

But now...

I don't know.

[sniffles]
Perhaps I need to listen more intently.

What do you think, Cardinal Bergoglio?

- What? Uh, hmm...
- [Benedict grunts]

[chuckles]

Yeah.

I think, perhaps, I need a...

a spiritual hearing aid.

Who does know?

You know, when I first heard that voice,
whatever that was...

His voice, God's voice...

[smacks lips, inhales sharply]

...it brought me peace.

Such peace.

[sniffles] Ha!

You must have felt that?

[takes a deep breath]

[excited chatter]

Hmm. The call, yes.

The peace...

I wouldn't call it peace.

[young Bergoglio, in Spanish]
180 tickets sold.

[man] Great.

- [young Bergoglio] Am I free?
- Sure!

[young Bergoglio] Gracias.

- [man speaks Spanish]
- [young Bergoglio] Gracias.

[Bergoglio, in English]
You know, the world can be chaotic.

[men speaking Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English]
And there's beauty in that.

Oh, I started to think
about being a priest when I was a kid.

I wasn't sure, so my grandmother said,

"Ask God for a sign."

Hola.

[both speaking Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English] I did.

Nothing.

[tango music playing]

[Bergoglio] I felt abandoned.

So, I got on with life.

[speaking Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English] I had a job.

- I had Amalia.
- [laughs]

[in Spanish] What are you doing?

[Bergoglio, in English] I had a future.

[woman, in Spanish]
Jorge, these results are the same.

[young Bergoglio] Yes, same experiment.

[woman] What did we agree on?

Hmm?

We have to test, test, and test.

We live and die by facts.

Facts are...

You've had a haircut.

[young Bergoglio] That is a fact.

[woman] And that shirt is new.

[chuckles softly]

Also a fact.

You've decided?

You will propose!

That's speculation.

No, a deduction.

[young Bergoglio] An incorrect deduction.

I already asked.

Tonight we'll discuss the details.

So, you won't be a priest.

[young Bergoglio] A logical conclusion,
Esther.

What took you so long?

[young Bergoglio] Bueno...

I had to listen to...

you know,

if He had other plans for me.

[Esther] He?

- [young Bergoglio] He.
- Ah.

This country doesn't need another priest.

I'll redo the tests.

- Next time, don't fool me.
- [young Bergoglio] Promise.

[Esther] Jorge!

You're going to be a great father.

[chuckles]

[woman] You're beautiful!

The prettiest ones.

How do I look?

Very handsome!

Bueno, muchas gracias.

[indistinct chatter]

[saxophone playing in distance]

[saxophone continues playing]

[distant clattering]

[door squeaks]

[man] Come in.

Come in.

No, Father, I was just passing.

[priest speaking Spanish]

[confessional door clicks closed]

[young Bergoglio] Bless me, Father,
for I have sinned.

[priest] I'm listening, my son.

Before we start, may I ask you something?

I haven’t seen you around.
Where are you from?

[priest] Parque Patricios.

Sometimes I come here to give Mass.

I'm praying
you’re not a Huracán supporter.

[chuckles]

Your prayers have been answered.

I live close by
in the priests’ home for the sick.

[young Bergoglio] Ah.

You tend to the sick.

No. I'm one of them.

I have cancer.

Leukemia.

[young Bergoglio] Then why are you here,
Father?

I woke up this morning,

the Lord asked me to hear confession.

But no one came...

until you.

What is troubling you?

I'm listening, son.

Some time ago, I asked for a sign.

[priest] Perhaps...

He's giving it now.

Maybe He wanted me here
to speak with you.

[young Bergoglio] With me?

[priest] Sí.

Now you know our Father is watching.

You can confess.

Free your heart.

[wind blowing]

[silently mouthing]

[bells ringing]

- [priest] Bergoglio.
- Gracias.

- [speaks Spanish]
- Gracias.

[both continue speaking Spanish]

- Bergoglio.
- [young Bergoglio] Yes.

- Welcome home.
- Thank you.

- How are you?
- Good.

[speaks Spanish]

Do you know what you're saying no to?

- Yes.
- Yes?

She even has a name.

Oh, well.

You will have to learn to love her
in another way.

Hm?

Love has many faces.

[speaking Spanish]

It's a big mistake to think
one can live without love.

I still have San Lorenzo.

[Bergoglio, in English] I can see now
there was never an alternative.

That priest, that day,
me finding him there.

[sighs] Even if I'd passed by,

God would have found
another way to call me.

You have such certainty.

[Bergoglio] Yes.

And I'm certain... He wants me to retire.

[Benedict] No, please.

I know we have our differences,
our disagreements,

but, please, this evening,

let's be... simply brothers together,
shall we?

Hm? [chuckles]

Do you play the piano or any instrument?

No. No, but I know you do.

You, uh... you made an album.

Uh, Music from the Vatican: Alma Mater.

That's right, I did. Heh.
Have you a copy of the album?

[Bergoglio] Oh, yes, yes. Por supuesto.

Ah. I could sign it for you.

Yes, please.

Perhaps you could play something now.

Well, I...
I'm a bit out of practice, but...

let's see, I'll try. [sighs]

Now, this little piece by Bedřich Smetana,
my favorite Czech,

and, uh, it's a lullaby.

[chuckles] Let's see what I can do.

[playing gentle melody]

[hits wrong note]

[Benedict] He lived a tragic life.

- Ah.
- [Benedict] Yeah, well.

Anyway, so... [clears throat]

[continues playing gentle melody]

[piano playing continues]

[Benedict] You know, the, um...

this album was recorded
in a... a famous studio in London.

[clears throat]
I was told, uh, I should be very honored

because the Beatles had been there.

- Do you know the Beatles?
- [Bergoglio] Yes,

- I know who they are. [chuckles]
- Of course you do. [chuckles]

[Bergoglio] "Eleanor Rigby."

- Who?
- [Bergoglio] "Eleanor Rigby."

- I don't know her.
- [Bergoglio] You know, Yellow Submarine.

- [Benedict] Sorry, I don't know who she...
- The album, Yellow Submarine.

[hums tune]

- Yellow Submarine? That's silly.
- [both chuckle]

- It's very funny.
- [Bergoglio chuckles]

Um...
Yes, I... I can't remember where the...

studio was, it was a...

But, uh,
it was like a church or something.

[Bergoglio] Abbey Road.

- Abbey, the Abbey? Yes, the road.
- Abbey Road. You went to Abbey Road?

No, no, no.
It would not have been appropriate.

[piano playing]

[Benedict] But, you know,

I once thought
I had a calling for music, but, uh...

I'm afraid, um...

at the keyboard, I'm not infallible.

But I enjoy it.

[playing upbeat melody]

[chuckles]

You like?

It's... very different.

It's wonderful.

[Benedict] It's an old, um...
uh, Berlin cabaret song.

It was made famous on the radio
before the war

- by a singer called Zarah Leander.
- [Bergoglio] Ah.

[Benedict] She was very pretty.
I was a big fan of hers.

- Sorry, who was?
- [Benedict] Zarah Leander.

[chuckles]

[plays upbeat melody]

- Would you like some wine?
- [Bergoglio] Oh!

- [Benedict] There's some.
- [Bergoglio chuckles] Ah, okay. Thank you.

[continues playing upbeat melody]

[Benedict] ♪ Sweet Auf Wiedersehen ♪

[humming and laughing]

- [both] ♪ La, la-la-la ♪
- ♪ La, la-la-la, la, la-la-la-la ♪

It's good wine?

Granados.

Stockhausen. [laughs gleefully]

- [piano music playing on TV]
- [Benedict grunts]

Ah...

The signal is not good here.

Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
But it's, uh... [laughs]

Yes.

[sound distorts on TV]

[smacks lips]

- [man speaking on TV]
- [Benedict] Look, there's this... Look.

[theme song playing on TV]

My favorite program is Kommissar Rex.
[laughs]

It's a television program from Austria,

and, uh, a German shepherd dog
who solves crimes, and, uh...

- [chuckles]
- [Rex barks on TV]

...the trouble he gets into.

The trouble he gets into every week.

- [chuckles]
- [Benedict] It's very fun, oh my.

It takes my mind off things.

Ah.

You know something, I'll tell you.

Here, in this place,
they call me "God's Rottweiler,"

guarding the house of God.

They don't know I... I know, but...
So I never say anything.

[sighs] But it's a...
you know, it's a small pleasure.

Well, small pleasures are important.

- Yeah.
- [Bergoglio] You know the story, the...

the two seminarians who...
who liked to smoke?

No. They should resist the temp...

Well, yeah, yeah. So, the first one,

he goes to his spiritual director,
and he says,

"Father, is it permitted to smoke
while praying?"

And the director says,
"No. No, of course not."

- Of course not. No, it's...
- No, no. So...

So, the second one, he was a Jesuit.

He says to his friend, "Brother,
you're just asking the wrong question."

- Ah.
- So he goes to the director,

then he says,
"Father, is it permitted to pray

while smoking?"

[Benedict] Yeah.

Pray and smoke at the same ti...

[laughs]

- [Bergoglio] Ah?
- It's a joke.

[both laugh]

- It's a silly joke.
- [both chuckle]

Pray and smoke at the same time.
It's impossible.

- [continues laughing]
- [chuckles]

I can never remember jokes. [sighs]

Remembering jokes is an essential part
of Jesuit training.

[both chuckle]

Yeah.

Yes.

I like company.

- I was alone.
- [chuckles]

Isaiah 41, chapter 10.

Yeah. "Do not be afraid,
for I am with you, always."

[Bergoglio] Sí, sí.

Yeah.

I know He's here...

but He doesn't laugh.

At least, I don't hear Him laughing.
You know?

[chuckles softly]

No, you wouldn't know.

Someone like you...

would never understand what I... mean.

[sniffles]

[clicks tongue] I'm sorry, I'm...
I must rest. I'm...

It's been a long day.

Gute Nacht.

- Yeah.
- Yes.

[both chuckle]

- [Bergoglio] Good night.
- [grunts] Buenas noches.

[coughs]

[crickets chirping]

[bird chirps]

[phone ringing]

Good morning, Eminence.

Ah, good morning.

The Holy Father apologizes,
but he's been called back to Rome.

Urgent business.

If you can get ready as soon as possible.

- [Bergoglio] Thank you, Sister. Goodbye.
- [nun] Eminenza. Goodbye.

[gardener, in Italian]
Cardinal, I have a souvenir for you.

- [Bergoglio] Ah!
- [gardener speaking Italian]

- I made some cuttings.
- [Bergoglio] Thank you!

[speaking Italian]

So, when you return home...

Let me help you.

[Bergoglio] Grazie.

[helicopter blades whirring loudly]

[shouting in English]
I hope this urgent business is not too...

Oh! Oh!

[whirring fades]

I hope this urgent business
is not too distressing.

Oh, the Curia is like a machine.

You put your hand inside,
it chops it into mincemeat.

They always defend themselves.

Sometimes it feels like being pope is
to become breakfast.

What is that plant? Is that, uh...

- This?
- [Benedict] Is that basil?

It's oregano.

Your gardener gave it to me.

Oh, yes. You're very popular.

[chuckles] This popularity of yours,
is there a trick to it?

I just try to be myself.

[Benedict] Oh...

Whenever I try to be myself,
people don't seem to like me very much.

Also, there's no option,
since I'm obliged to be pope.

Holy Father, about my retirement...

[helicopter blades whirring loudly]

["Bella, Ciao" playing]

[man shouting] The Holy Father wants
to finish his conversation with you,

but first, he must deal
with an urgent matter.

[Bergoglio shouting]
May I know the nature of the business?

You can talk to him tomorrow
at seven, okay?

[driver, in Italian] Hey, Cardinal,
need a lift?

[indistinct chatter]

[Bergoglio and vendor speaking Italian]

- How's the pizza?
- Better when hot.

[Bergoglio speaking Italian]

[reporter on TV, in English]
The scandal at the Vatican worsened today

after Gianluigi Nuzzi released
his book entitled

His Holiness:
The Secret Letters of Benedict XVI.

The book consists of documents, letters,
and memoranda

between the pope
and his personal secretary.

It has sent shock waves
through the Vatican

and brought Pope Benedict back to Rome

from Castel Gandolfo,
his summer residence.

[church bells ringing]

[sports commentator speaking Spanish
on TV]

[all cheering]

Bueno.

- [fans cheering]
- [commentator continues speaking Spanish]

[in Spanish] Thank you, Lord,
for Pipita's gift.

Amen.

[Bergoglio] Also, Lord, bless our pope.

The German? Let him bless himself.

Nazi.

No.

[sighs]

[sniffles]

[crowd cheers and applauds]

[solemn version of "Bella, Ciao" playing]

Let God grant him a quiet night
and a peaceful end.

[takes a deep breath]

[knocking on door]

Sì?

[door opens]

[in Italian] Holy Father, he's not there.

[Benedict] Ah.

What do you mean?

[man] We cannot find him.
I sent a car, but he's not there.

Find him!

[indistinct chatter]

[bell ringing]

[in English] I always wondered,
the uniform,

it must be very uncomfortable, huh?

Very hot.

Difficult to keep clean. [chuckles]

Or perhaps someone cleans it for you?

[sighs] This is where we're meeting?

[guard]
I was just asked to bring you here.

[door opens]

Grazie.

[sighs]

[jazz saxophone music playing]

[organ and saxophone music playing]

[Benedict]
You know, I've never been in here before.

- [chuckles]
- When it was empty, I mean.

No, uh...

visitors, no tourists.

[chuckles] I...

- wanted to experience the moment with you.
- [both chuckle softly]

Ah, Padre.

- Yeah.
- If I was pope, I'd be in here every day.

- Yeah, what else?
- What?

Well, if you had been chosen,
what would you do?

- Holy Father.
- [Benedict] No.

This place would be different,
I think. Huh?

- Well, I wouldn't eat alone, for a start.
- [Benedict] No?

Aside from the theology,

- it's no good for you.
- Oh.

You know,
Jesus was always breaking bread

- and feeding people.
- Well, what else?

Well, I'd, uh...

I'd sort out the Bank.

[chuckles] Oh, good luck with that.

Yeah, well,
the banks almost destroyed my country.

Yeah.

You know, they beg for deregulation,

like tigers begging
to be let out of a cage.

- [Benedict] Yeah.
- They devour everything in sight.

[Benedict] Yeah.

It's new elitism.

Hm.

[Benedict] Yeah.

You're beginning to be happy
I'm going to retire.

[chuckles] You, um...

For many weeks now, I've been...

well, I've been praying for a sign.

I don't understand.

[sighs] Well, when your...

when your request came to me
to retire as cardinal archbishop,

I could not accept it, your retirement,

I mean, until I'd, um...

spoken to you.

So, you had to come from Argentina to Rome
to see me.

And, uh...

what I'm saying is,

perhaps you had to come here
for some other purpose.

Like what?

Well...

you see, I've made a...

a decision, an important decision,
I think,

for the life of the Church
and for her future.

Something I ask you to hide in your soul
and speak of to no one.

- Uh-huh.
- Know what I mean?

- Sí.
- Good.

You know, sometimes...

sometimes, you notice little things.
It's very strange.

You know, the other night,
after... prayer,

I put out the candle, and uh...

instead of rising up...

the smoke went down,

like Cain's offering being rejected

- by God.
- [Bergoglio chuckles]

Do you notice such things?

Uh...

I bought my ticket for my flight here...
[chuckles]

...before you requested my presence.

- No.
- Yes!

- Your plane ticket, you bought it before?
- [Bergoglio] Yeah.

[chuckles]

[Benedict]
Well, that gives me great encouragement.

Yeah...

You're the right person.
I'm going to resign.

- This marble is cold here.
- Sorry...

- [stammers]...the right person for what?
- To tell.

To tell what?

What I just said. I'm going to resign.

Uh, resign from what?

[chuckles] The Papacy.

The Chair of Saint Peter.

The Bishopric of Rome.

I'm going to renounce all of them.
[grunts]

[Bergoglio] But you can't. You... You...
[clears throat]

- You wouldn't be the pope anymore.
- [Benedict] No.

Popes can't resign!

It's not without precedent.

Celestine V resigned, 1294.

Didn't you know that?

Holy Father, you think...
you think people will not be shocked

because this happened
once before, 700 years ago?

[Benedict chuckles] Well...

I... I came here just to have you sign
a piece of paper.

[Benedict] I know.

[groans, sighs]

Now you know why I could not grant you
your wish to retire.

It would be another conclave.
It is important that you're there.

Holy Father, you must not do this.
You cannot do this.

- [Benedict] Why not?
- [sighs]

Why do the presidents of America
and Russia and China come to you?

Because...

unlike them,

your authority comes from the fact
that you will suffer and die

in the job.

- Yeah.
- [Bergoglio] A martyr

to justice and truth.

For this, all people come.

Forgive me, but...

But?

Christ did not come down from the cross.

Ah! God always grants you the right words.

[Bergoglio] No, no.
No, a pope must go on forever.

Be the personification
of the crucified Christ.

If you do this,
you will damage the Papacy forever.

[Benedict tuts] Well...

And what damage will I do if I remain?

[sighs] I...

It's... It's... two popes?

- [Benedict] Well, in 19...
- No. It is... No, it's unthinkable.

Well, in 1978, we had three popes.

[Bergoglio] Yeah,
but they weren't at the same time.

I was making a little joke.

[Bergoglio] A joke?

A German joke.
It doesn't have to be funny.

[scoffs]

[Benedict] You know, there's a saying,
uh, "God always...

corrects one pope by presenting the world
with another pope."

I should... I'd like to see my correction.

[takes a deep breath]
Both commanding authority.

[Benedict] No.

Only one would command authority.

I would, uh,
hide away, out of the spotlight.

[in Latin] Silence incarnate!

[chuckles]

[in English]
Are you being pressured to go? The Curia?

No, no, no.

If there was pressure from there,
I would resist.

No, I know my intentions
and my motives are pure.

- See, I'm a scholar, not a manager.
- [watch beeps] Don't stop now.

- Keep moving.
- Yeah.

[watch beeping] Keep moving.

And besides, I, um...

[watch] Don't stop now.

- I have a pacemaker, and I'm half-blind.
- [watch] Keep moving.

[chuckles]
I can no longer see out of my left eye.

And, uh...

governance requires eyes
that I do not have.

Yes...

I've struggled and fought to do what...

must be done, but, um... [clicks tongue]

- I've lost.
- [sighs]

It is our weakness
that calls forth the grace of God.

You show your weakness,
He gives us strength.

[Benedict] Yeah.

I've given you my answer.

Be satisfied.

With respect, Holy Father...

it's not me who needs to be satisfied.

It's 1.2 billion believers.

They'll need to know why.

Otherwise, they'll think
there is a scandal, a... a plot.

Well,
that is the calculation of leadership.

- [sighs]
- A calculation we must both make.

Both? Why?

Well, for months,
I've been, uh, wanting to resign,

but there was one thought
that prevented me from that.

I thought, "What if at the next conclave,

they voted for that, uh,
Cardinal Bergoglio?"

For you.

[Bergoglio]
Then I offered my resignation.

[Benedict] Exactly.

[chuckles] I was delighted.

As I said...

what prevented me from resigning

was the thought that, uh,

they could've chosen you, or elected you.

But now you are here in Rome to see me,

- and now, I've changed.
- You've compromised.

No, I've changed.

Compromise is something else.

Your style and your methods
are entirely different to mine.

I don't agree with any...

well, most of the things you say,
think, or do, but, uh...

for some strange reason,

now I can see a...

a necessity for a Bergoglio.

But I cannot do this without knowing
that there is, at least,

- a possibility that you might be chosen.
- No.

It could never be me.

All right.

- We are at an impasse.
- [sighs]

You cannot retire from the Church
unless I agree to your going,

and I cannot resign
until you agree to stay.

It's a conundrum. A theological conundrum.

You don't understand.
It could never be me.

We know in our heart of hearts
that it could be.

The Church needs to change,
and you could be that change.

[sighs] Oh. No. No, uh...
Not me. Never.

- It couldn't be me.
- [Benedict] Why not?

[sighs, chuckles]

[footsteps approaching]

You know why.

I've read your files.

[clicks tongue] No.

The files... are incomplete.

[Benedict] How incomplete?

[siren wailing]

[Jorge Videla, in Spanish]
People of Argentina:

The country faces a hard moment
in its history...

[Bergoglio, in English] In the '70s,

the government was overthrown
by a military dictatorship.

At that time, I became the head
of Jesuit priests in Argentina.

[in Spanish] I remarried.

[young Bergoglio] In other words,
you live with someone.

[Bergoglio, in English]
Everybody was a suspect.

[indistinct distant shouting]

[soldiers speaking Spanish]

- [man speaking Spanish on radio]
- [men shouting in Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English]
Thirty thousand people were killed.

- [in Spanish] What happened?
- We want our children. Where are they?

[Bergoglio, in English]
Anyone who disagreed disappeared.

Esther, my old boss.

My friend.

Her daughter was among them.

[man speaking on radio]

[in Spanish] We Argentinians say
there are thousands and thousands...

of mothers and families suffering
in pain, anguish, and despair.

We don't know where our children are!

[officer] They say you lie.

We are lying?

That our children disappeared?

Where are they?

Cowards!

The so-called Christian Army have them!

[crowd chanting]

[Bergoglio, in English]
Many priests were seen

as supporters of the armed resistance.

[in Spanish]...neither oppressors
nor oppressed.

[group] Amen.

[men speaking Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English] Father Mugica,
the voice of the poor in Argentina...

[rapid gunfire]

...was martyred in 1974.

- [men shouting]
- [Bergoglio] After him...

- [gunshot]
- ...many priests and nuns were killed.

[man speaking Spanish on radio]

[gunshot]

[tires screech in distance]

[sighs, in English]
This is not a time I'm proud of, Father.

I felt my job was to make sure
my priests were safe.

- [officer speaking Spanish]
- [crowd replies in Spanish]

[in Spanish] Father.

[Bergoglio, in English]
And I spoke with Massera,

one of the leaders of the junta.

- Tried to reason with him.
- [man, in Spanish] Admiral.

[in English] To compromise.

[man, in Spanish] Father Bergoglio,
from the seminary.

- [Massera] The seminary?
- [young Bergoglio] Nice to meet you.

[Massera] Where Jesuits become Marxists
through books.

- He is with us and got rid of the books.
- Hm.

Maybe a priest took them to a mission.

[laughs] It is a joke.

My chaplain is a Jesuit.

I'm listening, Bergoglio.

Hélder Câmara, Church and Development.

Yankee Imperialism in Latin America,
Olivares.

[doorbell rings]

- [Esther] Hola, Jorge.
- [kiss]

[Esther] I didn't understand the call.
What's happening?

They are watching you, Esther.
We need to clear the house.

Books,

pamphlets...

All of it.

Why the urgency?

[young Bergoglio] Gramsci.

The Working Class. Peronism.

Brecht. Marx.

Psychoanalysis.

How do you know they're watching?

Who are you talking to?

[young Bergoglio speaking Spanish]

See this guy protesting with you?

Gustavo.

No.

His name is Astiz.

Personal friend of Admiral Massera.

Otherwise known
as the "Blond Angel of Death."

An informer.

He’s a son of a bitch.

[speaking Spanish]

[speaking Spanish]

How long will you stay quiet?

Why don't you speak out?

Why don’t you speak out?

[young Bergoglio] If I speak,
I can't help.

No. If you spoke,
you would be one more, like us.

You like to be the one
in the admiral's palace...

making contacts.

Right?

[Bergoglio, in English] In this moment,
she looked at me like I was a stranger.

[car engine starts]

[Bergoglio] With fear.

That was the last time I ever saw her.

She warned me,

- and I didn't listen.
- [man shouting]

- [men speaking Spanish]
- [Bergoglio, in English] Had I listened,

I would not have made
the mistakes that I made.

[all speaking Spanish]

[Jalics, in Spanish] I was his teacher.

Now he's head of the Jesuits
in Argentina.

And Uruguay.

These are the guys learning skills.

Come meet the boys I mentioned.

[speaking Spanish]

[Jalics] They're real artists!

[young Bergoglio] Jalics!

You need to close down Rivadavia.

[scoffs]

What?

I need you to close this mission.

[Jalics] Yorio!

We didn't build this for nothing.

We can't abandon people.

With Massera,
if we haven't lost a Jesuit...

It's because you didn’t speak out.

And made us irrelevant.

They’re watching...

and don’t like what they see.

I know!

- [Yorio] How?
- [young Bergoglio] What?

How do you know that, Jorge?

[Jalics]
Did you go to President Videla's house?

To give communion?

They are assassins, Jorge.

My role is to protect the Order.

[Yorio] Ah.

That's our calling now?
To protect ourselves?

[Jalics] I taught you...

How do we know Christ?

By following in His footsteps.

Where do they lead?

Here.

[young Bergoglio]
Or before a firing squad!

If that's so, so be it!

[young Bergoglio] I'm your superior.

I'm begging you to return to the seminary!

If we don't obey?

[young Bergoglio]
You are Jesuits. You made vows!

Break them, and you're no longer Jesuits!

If we aren’t Jesuits, we lose protection.

It's like a death sentence.

So keep your vows. Damn it!

We refuse to cease our work.

You keep drinking tea with killers.

Listen to me!

I'll talk to whoever helps me save lives.

Mm-hmm.

And you obey. Shut down the project!

[chuckles]

It is an order.

[sighs]

You hear? It's an order!

[Bergoglio, in English]
But they disobeyed my orders.

Questioned my authority.

You talk about, uh... your authority.
What did you do with that authority?

[speaks indistinctly]

[Benedict]
You used it to save dozens of lives.

It's in your file.

[in Spanish] I brought you some food...

[Benedict, in English]
And you hid families of trade unionists

in the seminary.

You even drove some of them
up to the border yourself.

[stammers] It wasn't enough.

No. No, not for your...

brother Jesuits, no.

[young Bergoglio in Spanish]
It's an order!

[Bergoglio, in English] Pride...
obscured my judgment.

Their right to say Mass was removed.

And with it, the protection of the Church.

I was supposed to protect them.

I failed.

[engines revving]

[men shouting]

[horn honks]

[soldiers shout]

[Jalics, in Spanish] Go home!

- [whistle blows]
- [indistinct chatter]

[soldier] The Mass is over.
Who's the priest?

Keep cool.

Gentlemen, calm down, please.

[parishioners scream]

[Jalics pleads in Spanish]

[indistinct shouting]

Yorio! [shouting in Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English] It's not easy
to entrust oneself to God's mercy.

I know He has a very special capacity
for forgetting our mistakes.

God forgets,

but I don't.

[indistinct shouting]

They were taken away
and tortured for months.

Their hands were broken.

[footsteps echoing]

[man speaking Spanish]

[in Spanish] Admiral.

The priest.

Come in.

[door closes]

Bergoglio.

[young Bergoglio] Admiral.

I'm listening.

- You have my priests...
- Vilas serves.

[Vilas grunts on TV]

[Massera] He is good, right?

Admiral,

you have my priests Jalics and Yorio...

detained.

They are not political.

[Massera] Why did you kick them out?

They were temporarily suspended.

A technical matter.

Who told you?

We see and hear everything.

[young Bergoglio] Four months.

What are you doing to them?

[Massera] Enough, Bergoglio!

I know full well where my priests are!

They're not your priests.

You just said so.

It's a "technical matter."

- [announcer, in English] That's in!
- [crowd applauds]

[in Spanish] You should think
before you act.

[in English] My words had no impact.

It was empty.

[Benedict] But you did all you could.

[indistinct chatter]

- It wasn't enough.
- [Benedict] All dictatorships...

take away our freedom to choose.

We both know that.

[Bergoglio] Or reveal our own weaknesses.

[football announcer shouting excitedly
in Spanish on radio]

[sobbing]

[panting and whimpering]

[Bergoglio] And then, they took Esther.

There were so many bodies
washed up on the shore,

the Coast Guard complained
they couldn't cope. [sighs]

[wind howling]

My dear friend...

And where was I?

Where was Christ in all this?

Was he taking tea
in the presidential palace?

Or was he being tortured in prisons,

with Yorio and Jalics?

[Benedict] Hm.

Well, perhaps the path appears straight
when we...

look back at it.

On the way, we often feel lost.

The dark night of the soul. Hm.

Hm.

[man speaking Spanish on radio]

[Benedict, in English]
After the dictatorship fell

and democracy returned,

your order turned on you.

[priest speaking Spanish]

[Benedict, in English]
You were cast out of office,

removed from your position,

stripped of all authority,

sent abroad.

[Raúl Alfonsín speaking Spanish
on broadcast]

[crowds cheering]

[Julio César Strassera speaking Spanish
on radio]

[Benedict] They accused you
of hard-line views, of being right-wing,

of having sinned by doing too little,

of being egotistical.

You were sent to the mountains,

exiled.

[man, in Spanish] God bless this food...

[praying in Spanish]

[Bergoglio, in English]
Two years of introspection,

of dark days and nights.

[Benedict] Of interior crisis.

- [thunder rumbles]
- [Benedict] Of change.

NEW EVANGELISM
FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE EXCLUDED

[woman 1, in Spanish]
Bless me, Father, for I have sinned.

I hate my former mother-in-law.

I want to kill her.

[man 1] Bless me, Father,
for I have sinned.

[Bergoglio, in English] I heard a lot
of confessions. I learned to listen.

[man 1, in Spanish] I have bad thoughts.
I masturbate many times a day.

[man 2] Forgive me, Father,
for I have sinned.

I live in sin constantly...

[man 3] ...I feel very ashamed about it...

[woman 2] I'm always depressed.

[man 1] ...looking at them
with sexual desire...

[confessions overlapping]

I feel I'm a fraud...

[confessions grow louder]

[silence falls]

[wind blowing]

[young Bergoglio] I had a TV.

I liked to watch football.

A TV needs an antenna and a signal.

Sometimes the signal is bad.

We don't know why,
but sometimes it doesn't work.

It's the same when we pray.

Sometimes the signal God sends us
is strong and clear.

It works fine. One feels the connection,

that we are really plugged-in,

in direct contact.

But other days...

one can only say,

"Well... at least I tried."

But you've gotten nothing back.

You don't have an answer.

You say,
"Father, that doesn't happen to you."

People believe that for us
it's different...

That we have...

a direct line with God.

No, it's not like that.

For us, it's the same as for you,
and you...

[sighs]

What I mean is...

today, I'm not worthy
of delivering a sermon.

My words would be empty.

Today, you should teach me.

That would be the best.

[wind blows]

[faint ringing]

[applause]

[Bergoglio, in English]
We have known tyranny in this country...

[camera shutters clicking]

...but a new tyranny rises up.

Not just here,

but around the world.

[in Spanish] You talk about tyranny!
Your friends were tyrants!

They took away our companions!

[man 1] You are an accomplice.

Friend of the military!

- Tell the truth!
- Where are they?

- [man 1] Where are they?
- [both] Where are they?

[crowd murmuring]

[door closes]

[in English] A tyranny...

not just of repression...

and oppression...

or terror.

A tyranny of unfair economic structures...

that create huge inequalities.

You know,

20 percent of the world's population

consumes resources

at a rate that robs the poor nations

and future generations

of what they need to survive.

- [gentle acoustic guitar music playing]
- [wind blows]

[Bergoglio] Just as the commandment

"Thou shalt not kill"

sets a clear limit

so to safeguard the value of human life,

so today,

we also have to say, "Thou shalt not"

to an economy of exclusion...

and inequality

which idolizes money.

Every community...

is called to be an instrument
for the liberation...

the liberationand promotion of the poor.

["Cuando Tenga la Tierra" playing]

[young Bergoglio, in Spanish]
How difficult it is

to get out of ourselves sometimes

and stop being selfish.

Because we think,

"I'll be an idol, be loved, be the Lord."

It's not like that.

There's only one Lord. Up there.

So, I want you to pass the ball.

Román, you have Lucas here.
Look at him!

[Román] Sí.

- Is it clear?
- [boys] Sí.

- Understood?
- [boys] Yes.

- Understood?
- [boys] Yes!

[young Bergoglio] Let's play!

[boys shout]

[young Bergoglio] With heart
and short passes!

Now you are playing as a team.

[Bergoglio, in English]
We need bridges, not walls. Thank you.

[in Spanish] Nice to meet you.

It's a pleasure to listen to you.

[Benedict, in English] It took years
until Cardinal Quarracino noticed you

at an international conference.

You were made bishop.

But you did not live like one.

You renounced luxury.

You did the work once denied
by Fathers Yorio and Jalics.

[speaking Spanish]

[congregation] Sí.

[Bergoglio] I tried to walk the road

from which I had banished them.

Every vegetable I chopped,

every eviction we stopped,

every case we won,
I saw as some kind of penance.

- [Benedict] Yeah.
- [chuckles]

Hm. [takes a deep breath]

[clicks tongue] I'm just gonna tell you
one little thing.

We all suffer from...

spiritual pride.

We all do.

You must remember that, uh...

you are not God.

"In God, we move, and live,
and have our being."

We live in God, but we are not of it.

You're only human.

- But... there he is.
- [chuckles softly]

Human. Yeah.

So... [sighs]

...if you'll allow me, my son.

You must...

believe in the mercy that you preach.

[in Latin] I absolve you

in the name of the Father,
the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

- [softly] Amen.
- Hm.

- [in English] Thank you, Father.
- [door opens]

[man, in Italian] Holy Father.

It's nine o'clock.

- They are opening the doors to the public.
- [Benedict, in English] I forgot.

Grazie. Danke.

[in Italian] Would you like me
to delay the opening?

[in English] No.
Most of these people have waited

- most of their lives to see this.
- [chuckles]

[Benedict] This way.

Yeah. Come with me,
I want to show you something.

- [Bergoglio] Grazie.
- [Benedict] This is the sacristy,

- known as the Chamber of Tears.
- [Bergoglio] Ah.

[Benedict] I don't know if they're
the tears of, uh, joy or tears of sorrow.

You know, I came in through that door
as Joseph Ratzinger,

and I went out through the same door

- as Pope Benedict XVI.
- [Bergoglio] Ah.

Oh!

Grazie.

Thank you.

Holy Father, are... are you hungry?

- Hungry?
- Ah, sí.

Yes, perhaps, you know,
I think I am hungry.

- Do you want me to ask the kitchen to...
- No, no, no, there's no need. There's a...

There is a place
just in front of the Porta Angelica.

Oh, you know it?
Excellent pizza and coffee.

- Pizza?
- [Benedict] Yeah.

- No, no, no, no.
- Oh, no? Okay.

Pizza, okay.

[in Italian] A margherita and diavola,
two Fantas, and a coffee.

- [in English] Please, no photos.
- [assistant] Excuse me.

- Excuse me.
- Whoa!

[guard] This way.

Excuse me.

You know, always, in the past,

whenever a pope,
or Holy Father, would eat,

at every meal, always at his side,

would be three Jesuit brothers, and...

- they were his food tasters.
- [chuckles]

I think the lack of Jesuits has probably
poisoned more than one Holy Father.

[laughs] Perhaps I should take a bite
out of your slice, huh?

- Just to be on the safe side.
- No. No. That's mine. That's my pizza.

- Would you say grace, Holy Father?
- [sniffs] Yes.

Yes.

Thank you, Lord, for this food
that we enjoy here,

in this place outside of time.

See, Lord, your Church, your flock

is under attack, is in crisis.

God, grant us the wisdom
and the strength

to oppose the hypocrisy
that disfigures her.

St. Francis,

intercede for us
as we seek to repair the Church.

Would you like to add something?

Amen.

Amen. It's good.

Yeah.

Mm.

[in Spanish] Good, isn't it?

Mm! [munches]

[in English] You know, I was, um...

thinking about your teachers,

Yorio and Jalics.

- Did you ever reconcile with them?
- [Bergoglio] With Jalics, yes.

We said a Mass together.

[in Spanish]
Can you light the candles, please?

[Jalics] They're lit, Father.

[church bells ringing]

Jalics.

Can you pass the stole? We're late.

[young Bergoglio] In the name
of the Father, the Son,

and the Holy Spirit.

- [bells ring]
- [young Bergoglio] Amen.

Lord, wash me clean...

from my sins,

so I can celebrate...

these sacred mysteries.

Now, let's give each other,

everyone,

a fraternal hug for peace.

[Bergoglio, in English] We cried...

in each other's arms.

[sighs]

He forgave me.

[Benedict] And Yorio?

No.

To the end, he saw me as a traitor.

[sighs] And then he died.

I'm still seen as a divisive figure
in Argentina.

Huh.

[chuckles]

[sighs]

You know, yesterday you said, uh...

"Life is never static."

Yeah?

Well...

You know...

you lead... not by power
and not by intellect,

but you lead by...

you particularly, you lead by, um...

the way you live
or the way you have lived.

- You've changed.
- [chuckles]

That man is...

is still inside me.

That doubt, it...

it still exists.

[Benedict] Mm-hmm.

- Hmm?
- Um...

You think your sins disqualify you,

but we are all sinners.

Now, please, hear my confession.

Well, would you deny me a confession,
Bergoglio?

No, no, don't kneel.
Don't kneel. Please, Holy Father.

- [Benedict] Oh.
- [Bergoglio] Sit, please.

I think if I sit,
it'll have to be an informal confession.

What should I say?

I don't know. What do you usually say?

How long since your last confession?

Eight... seven... eight days.

And have you sinned greatly in that...

I'm sorry,
I... I don't mean to imply that you...

[chuckles] Of course I've sinned.

Several numerous venial sins,

and, uh...

But I'm getting too old and, uh, forgetful

to remember what they are.

- Can you say that?
- [Benedict] Yeah.

I didn't know you could say that.
That's... That's useful.

I've sinned against you, Lord,
whom I should love above all things.

As a child, I failed you first by not...

having the courage
to taste of life itself.

Instead, I hid away in books,
and then study.

[sighs]

I know now that this...

left me empty and void of the world...

[chuckles]...for which the Church is...
meant to help.

Go on.

[exhales]

Remember Father Maciel?

There were claims 12 years ago

that his molesting of boys

continued for decades... [voice fades]

[high-pitched ringing]

[ringing fades]

[takes a deep breath]

Yes, I did not give sufficient attention
to the duties assigned to this one priest.

Sufficient attention?

Village after village?

Yeah.

- But you knew!
- [Benedict] Yes, I should've known.

I should've known.

- The facts were sent to me.
- [Bergoglio] You said there was more.

Evidence was placed on my desk, but...

You forgot to love the people
you are meant to protect.

[Benedict] Yes.

- I ask forgiveness.
- [Bergoglio] Father...

if this is the sole reason
you wish to resign,

it is even more important that you stay,
heal the wound.

- Listen to me.
- Complete the work you have begun.

You see,
every reason I give you is not enough.

So, let me tell you again,

I can no longer sit
on the Chair of Saint Peter.

- You're mistaken.
- I cannot feel the presence of God.

I do not hear His voice,
do you understand me?

No. No, you're mistaken.
You are mistaken.

I believe in God. I pray to God!

Silence!

I cannot play this role anymore.

I'm so sorry.

[exhales]

Since I was a child, as a boy,

I always felt His presence with me,
at my side.

For my entire life, I have been alone,

but never lonely, until now.

[Bergoglio sighs] I'm so sorry.

Yeah.

But now I can hear His voice
these last two days.

I've heard His voice again.

- I'm glad.
- Yes.

And the voice is the last one
I expected to hear Him speak with.

It was your voice.

- [Bergoglio] No.
- Yeah.

I think, perhaps, I could not hear Him
not because He was withdrawing from me,

but because He was saying,

"Go,

my faithful servant."

[chuckles softly]

[Bergoglio] God, the Father of mercies,

has sent the Holy Spirit among us

for the forgiveness of sins.

May God grant you His pardon and peace.

- And I absolve you of your sins.
- [exhales]

And remind you...

that truth may be vital,

but without love,

it is unbearable.

Caritas in veritate. Your book.

[sighs] Yeah.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son,
and of the Holy Spirit.

Amen.

Amen.

[sighs]

You have lifted a great burden
from my shoulders.

- You have placed a heavy one on mine.
- Ah.

[chuckles softly]

[indistinct chatter]

- [Benedict] Huh?
- Uh...

Is there another way out,
or shall I call security?

[Benedict] No, no, no, I've hidden
behind security long enough.

No, they're my people.

- Oh.
- [Benedict] I'm their pope.

At least, for now. Come on, let's go.

[Bergoglio] Scusi. Grazie.

[Benedict] Scusi. Buongiorno. Buongiorno.

- [visitors chattering]
- Buongiorno. Buongiorno. Grazie.

Buongiorno. Buongiorno.

[crowd exclaims]

- [Benedict] Buongiorno.
- No, no, no, no. Leave... Leave him.

- Look, he's happy.
- Hmm?

[Bergoglio] Let him have his moment.

[crowd clamoring]

Hey.

[crowd cheers]

[crowd chants]

[door opens]

- You must be pleased to go home.
- Ah...

- Speaking English is exhausting.
- [chuckles]

Terrible language,
so many exceptions to so many rules.

Sí.

Remember...

[in Latin]...silence incarnate.

[Bergoglio chuckles]

[Benedict, in English]
Do you know the story of St. Francis?

When he was asked to...

told by God to restore His Church,
he thought He meant bricks and mortar.

- [both chuckle]
- [Benedict] Poor St. Francis.

Even he made mistakes
and got things wrong.

- [Bergoglio] Yeah.
- [Benedict] Yeah.

Well.

- Ah.
- Holy Father. Bye.

- Bye.
- No, please.

- What? [grunts]
- Please. [chuckles]

What?

- You know, St. Francis, he loved to dance.
- Oh, yes?

He would have learned to tango. Hm?

- Well, it's too late for me.
- No, no, no, no.

Come. Come. I'll show you.

- Come. Come. Come.
- No.

- No, try. Come, I'll teach you. Come.
- No.

- I can't dance.
- No, so...

Now, you see, I go forward with my right.

- Yeah.
- And you go forward...

[softly] Oh. Non ci credo.

[counting in Spanish]

- Huh? One, two...
- [chuckles] One, two.

...three, four. Half-step.
And to the side, to the side.

- [piano playing]
- [counts in Spanish]

[Benedict] No, no, no.

No, no, go away.

Leave me alone! Leave me alone! Go away!
Go!

Auf Wiedersehen.
Go. Go. To the airport. Go.Ooh!

Here.

- That's for you.
- [Bergoglio] Oh!

- Yeah. Abbey Road.
- [Bergoglio] Well...

- The Beatles.
- Absolutely.

- Go now.
- Abbey Road, eh? Beautiful.

- [Benedict] Ciao.
- Thank you.

- Eh... Well, my friend...
- [kisses]

[grunts softly]

[Benedict] Right. Go on. Auf Wiedersehen.

- Auf Wiedersehen. Grazie.
- [Benedict] Arrivederci.

To the airport!

Don't bring him back.

- Grazie.
- [Benedict] Arrivederci.

Ciao.

- [car door closes]
- Ciao.

[car door closes]

[choral version of "Blackbird" playing]

♪ You were only waiting
For this moment to arise ♪

- [Benedict speaking Latin]
- [camera shutter clicks]

[Bergoglio chuckles]

[woman, in Spanish] What is it?

When he has something tricky to say,

he speaks Latin.

[continues speaking Latin]

[cardinal 1, in Italian] Did I hear right?

- [cardinal 2] Not sure.
- [speaks Italian]

Did you get that?

[cardinal 3] Are you sure?

[camera shutter clicking]

[clears throat]

[in Spanish] The pope just renounced.

What?

Sí.

[Benedict] Grazie. [grunts]

[camera beeps, clicks]

[reporter 1, in English]
Believe it or not, this is the last day

of Benedict XVI's papacy.

- He's moving to Gandolfo, where he will...
- [reporter 2 speaking German]

[reporter 3] The Holy See had become...

[reporter 4] ...in his own words,

"Simply a pilgrim who will still like
to work for the common good."

[broadcasts continue]

[orchestra playing "Blackbird"]

[reporter 5]
...world's Catholics are arriving

to see the election of a new pope,

and for the first time, they may see that
from Latin or North America.

[reporter 6] Many of the cardinals
want to narrow the gap

between what happens within those walls

and what goes on out there
in the Church in the world.

[reporter 7] Do you see the conclave
going in a more conservative direction

or a more progressive one?

...standing at a crossroads
between the old and the new...

The cardinals are getting ready,
in a ritual hours away

from the first vote for the new pope,

and they are...

- [doors slam]
- [broadcasts stop]

- [pen clicks]
- [cardinals speaking Latin]

- [clinks]
- [pen scratching]

[voices overlap]

[clinking grows faster]

- [clangs]
- [voices fade]

[crowd clamoring]

[camera shutters clicking]

Bergoglio.

Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[reel squeaks]

[scrutineer] Bergoglio Cardinalis.

Scola Cardinalis.

Bergoglio Cardinalis.
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

Scola Cardinalis.
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

Bergoglio Cardinalis.
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[cardinals applauding]

[scrutineer echoing] Bergoglio Cardinalis.
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[upbeat music playing]

Bergoglio Cardinalis.
Bergoglio Cardinalis.

[bell chimes]

[crowd cheers]

[in English]
May God forgive you all for this.

[in Spanish] Don't forget the poor.

Hmm?

[Bergoglio chuckles]

[wind whooshing]

[crowd cheering and applauding]

[in Italian] You have a phone?

[cheering]

[phone ringing]

[cardinal speaking Italian on TV]

[speaking French]

[speaking German]

[in English] Dear brothers

and sisters...

[man, in Italian] Holy Father,
sorry, no reply.

Ah, bene, grazie.

Holy Father, you must choose.

[Bergoglio] No, grazie.

I will wear what I am wearing.

Grazie.

- [speaking Italian]
- [Bergoglio speaking Italian]

The shoes?

Hmm?

[cardinal 1] They're part of a tradition
from...

[grunts]

No, mine are fine.

[cardinal 2] Holy Father, the mozzetta?

No, thank you. The carnival is over.

Habemus Papam.

[crowd cheers]

Bene.

[bells ringing]

[sniffles]

[in Italian] If there have to be tears,

let’s make them tears of joy.

Grazie.

[cardinal speaking Latin over speakers]

Cardinale... Bergoglio!

[crowd cheering]

[all cheer]

[cardinal continues speaking Latin]

[crowd chanting]

[in Italian] Brothers and sisters,

good evening.

[crowd roars]

[Francis] You all know that...

the duty of the conclave...

was to give a bishop to Rome.

It seems that my cardinal brothers...

found one
almost at the end of the world.

[crowd cheers and applauds]

Now, here we are.

First of all,

I'd like to say a prayer

for our Bishop...

Emeritus Benedict XVI.

[crowd cheers]

Let's pray together for him.

[silence falls]

- [operator on phone, in English] Name?
- [Francis] Bergoglio. Jorge Bergoglio.

Like the pope?

[Francis] Oh, well, uh...

yes, if...[chuckles]

Postcode?

[Francis]It's... It's Vatican City.

Yes, very funny.

- [dial tone buzzes]
- [Francis sighs]

[door opens]

- [yawns]
- [door squeaks]

Oh...

[chuckles softly]
You stand there all night?

Yes, Holy Father.

Really? Ah...

Um, I am trying to get the Wi-Fi in here.
You know how it works?

The Wi-Fi?

Sí, sí. I'm trying to make a booking,

and apparently, the only way
it can be done is online.

Can you help me at all?

Of course, Holy Father.

Let me just...

I'll be very grateful.

- Ah, your phone, of course.
- [chuckles] Yeah.

And where to?

- Lampedusa.
- [under breath] Lampedusa.

- How many seats?
- [speaks Italian] Just me.

Oh...

Would they let you go alone, Holy Father?

Of course.

I'm the pope.

["Sastanàqqàm" playing]

[ship horn blows]

- [plane engines whir]
- [crowd cheers]

[crowd shouts]

- [crowds cheering]
- [fireworks whistling]

[Francis] We are seeing
a globalization of indifference.

There is a culture of conflict,

which makes us think only of ourselves.

Makes us live in soap bubbles...

[speaking Italian]

...which, however lovely,
are also insubstantial.

We've become used
to the suffering of others.

"It doesn't affect me."

No one in our world feels responsible.

Who is responsible for the blood
of our brothers and sisters?

The refugees washed up on the shores
of the Mediterranean?

"I don't have anything to do with it.

Must be someone else.

[chuckling] Certainly, not me."

When no one is to blame...

everyone is to blame.

- [people shouting]
- [wave crashes loudly]

[watch beeps] Don't stop now. Keep moving.
Keep moving.

[watch beeping]
Don't stop now. Keep moving. Keep moving.

[beeps]

[both speaking indistinctly in Italian]

[camera shutters clicking]

[upbeat instrumental music playing]

- [Benedict] How are you, Holy Father?
- [Francis] I'm adjusting, Holy Father.

And, uh, ready to destroy you.

[commentator]
The World Cup Final of 2014 has begun.

It's Germany versus Argentina.

Two great rivals.

Here, they meet again for the end game.

[crowd cheering]

[Benedict] Oh, look! It's you. [laughs]

You're famous.

[commentator] This is an Argentina team
that beat the Netherlands

in the semi-final.

[Benedict] You know, it's exciting.
I get the excitement now.

I can feel the excitement.

[Francis] Good, you understand.

[commentator] It's a Germany team
that thrashed Brazil 7-1.

- Pizza.
- Please, please, please.

[commentator]
Bittersweet moment for Brazilians,

and they have hosted
a truly wonderful World Cup.

- That's presenting Higuaín with a chance!
- [both groan]

[commentator]
And the chance has been blown.

[Francis speaks Italian]

[commentator] Mascherano's touch.

That's an obvious foul.

Müller has been sent
crashing to the floor...

Argentina is very violent.

No, it's all part of the game.

[commentator] Germany fans are ready
for the Toni Kroos corner.

And Höwedes has met it!

- Off the post and gathered by Romero!
- Ooh!

[commentator]
Higuaín's on the move in the middle,

- and Higuaín has scored!
- Ah!

[commentator] But it's not going to count.

Higuaín was offside.

- [sighs] No!
- [laughs]

[commentator]
What a let-off for Germany.

Mascherano. Zabaleta.

That's a foul. That's a clear foul.

- [Francis] Huh?
- No, it's all part of the game.

[grunts]

[Benedict] Skoal.

[commentator]
Tackle after tackle, foul after foul.

That's a swing of the arm.

- [Benedict] He's got blood.
- It's nothing. I tell you, it's nothing.

- No, it's nothing. It's a scratch.
- Violent people.

- It's a scratch.
- No.

[commentator] Sergio Agüero is
a very lucky player

to still be on the field.

André Schürrle.

Trying to make good progress.

And he fires the ball in to Götze!

- [Francis] Oh, no, no!
- [crowd cheering]

[commentator] Mario Götze for Germany!

What a moment in the Maracanã!

Now Germany can celebrate.

Germany are champions of the world!

Bravo!

[commentator] The game decided

by one glorious goal
scored by Mario Götze.

It's Germany!

[Francis] Well, congratulations.

[Benedict] Uh-huh. [laughs]

- [in Italian] Make sure to eat well!
- [both laugh]

[upbeat music playing]

[thunder rumbling]

[crickets chirping]

[thunder continues rumbling]

[rain pattering]

[thunderclap booms]

[church bells ringing]

[birds chirping]

[wind whipping]