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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,277 --> 00:00:06,277 DOWNLOADED FROM WWW.AWAFIM.TV 2 00:00:06,277 --> 00:00:08,279 [rock music playing] 3 00:00:25,588 --> 00:00:28,758 This is real. This is a robbery. Step away from your cages. 4 00:00:30,259 --> 00:00:34,638 [man 1] He was the most prolific bank robber in the Pacific Northwest. 5 00:00:35,139 --> 00:00:36,807 [woman 1] He keeps changing his disguises. 6 00:00:36,807 --> 00:00:41,145 {\an8}He seems like he's in a movie, robbing bank after bank. 7 00:00:41,145 --> 00:00:42,438 {\an8}[man 2] Three or four banks, 8 00:00:42,438 --> 00:00:44,732 one right after the other in the same evening. 9 00:00:44,732 --> 00:00:48,819 [woman 2] In the FBI, we like to give nicknames to bank robbers. 10 00:00:48,819 --> 00:00:50,488 His moniker was "Hollywood." 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,114 {\an8}Pretty fitting, 12 00:00:52,114 --> 00:00:55,326 {\an8}especially when we learned that he really was inspired 13 00:00:55,326 --> 00:00:56,744 by Bodhi in Point Break. 14 00:00:56,744 --> 00:00:59,830 Why be a servant to the law when you can be its master? 15 00:01:01,582 --> 00:01:03,751 {\an8}You wanna open the vault, or do you want me to do it? 16 00:01:03,751 --> 00:01:06,378 {\an8}[woman 2] He'd been successful for four years. 17 00:01:06,378 --> 00:01:08,464 {\an8}That's why he became our number one priority. 18 00:01:08,464 --> 00:01:10,132 {\an8}He was not a stupid bank robber. 19 00:01:10,633 --> 00:01:13,219 [man 3] Hollywood was probably one of the most dangerous people 20 00:01:13,219 --> 00:01:14,386 that I went up against, 21 00:01:14,386 --> 00:01:16,097 because he was a true professional. 22 00:01:16,097 --> 00:01:18,766 {\an8}[man 2] He wanted to decimate the city of Seattle, 23 00:01:18,766 --> 00:01:21,602 {\an8}and it was not only doable, it was winnable. 24 00:01:22,186 --> 00:01:24,814 They knew that this man got millions over the years. 25 00:01:24,814 --> 00:01:27,149 They knew that he humiliated them. 26 00:01:27,942 --> 00:01:30,611 {\an8}[man 1] When he walked into the Lake City branch to rob us, 27 00:01:30,611 --> 00:01:33,239 {\an8}he walked right past his wanted poster. 28 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:36,534 {\an8}Don't panic. This is a robbery. Step away from your counter. 29 00:01:36,534 --> 00:01:39,453 [reporter 1] What happened here reads straight from a movie script. 30 00:01:39,453 --> 00:01:41,163 [reporter 2] He wears heavy makeup, a wig... 31 00:01:41,163 --> 00:01:43,707 [reporter 3] His co-star is this 9 mm. handgun. 32 00:01:43,707 --> 00:01:46,001 {\an8}[reporter 4] The most prolific bank robber in the country. 33 00:01:46,001 --> 00:01:49,046 {\an8}He's number one on the FBI's Most Wanted List. 34 00:01:49,630 --> 00:01:52,216 [man 4] They could not figure out who this guy was, 35 00:01:52,216 --> 00:01:54,468 and where he was gonna hit next. 36 00:01:54,468 --> 00:01:56,554 [man 5] Was this guy some kind of a ghost? 37 00:01:57,179 --> 00:01:59,223 How does he just slip away like that? 38 00:01:59,223 --> 00:02:01,308 [rock music intensifies] 39 00:02:18,868 --> 00:02:19,952 [music fades] 40 00:02:24,498 --> 00:02:26,500 [suspenseful music playing] 41 00:02:30,629 --> 00:02:34,258 {\an8}Hollywood was a unique case for us in Seattle. 42 00:02:34,842 --> 00:02:36,552 We knew from evidence 43 00:02:36,552 --> 00:02:39,430 that he was familiar with security practices. 44 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:43,809 He knew how long he had before he had to get out of there. 45 00:02:43,809 --> 00:02:45,853 He was a smart bank robber. 46 00:02:47,313 --> 00:02:49,231 He became our number one priority 47 00:02:49,231 --> 00:02:51,942 after I became the supervisor of our task force. 48 00:02:53,485 --> 00:02:54,737 [intriguing music playing] 49 00:02:54,737 --> 00:02:59,783 Shawn Johnson was the FBI agent that was the lead on the case. 50 00:02:59,783 --> 00:03:03,037 He was like an encyclopedia on Hollywood. 51 00:03:03,537 --> 00:03:06,373 He's number one as far as, uh, the amount of money 52 00:03:06,373 --> 00:03:08,125 that any bank robber has taken. 53 00:03:08,709 --> 00:03:13,339 Hollywood was a professional bank robber. He worked at it. He perfected his craft. 54 00:03:14,048 --> 00:03:16,467 I think he was enjoying what he did. 55 00:03:16,467 --> 00:03:18,719 I think money was part of it, but at that point in time, 56 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,597 it was just the, uh, adrenaline rush, the challenge. 57 00:03:23,766 --> 00:03:28,562 [Ellen] When I assigned Mike to head up the Seattle Police response to it, 58 00:03:28,562 --> 00:03:31,982 I knew that it would be an electric relationship. 59 00:03:32,566 --> 00:03:37,029 [man 3] Shawn and I were night and day, oil and water, two different styles. 60 00:03:37,738 --> 00:03:40,574 {\an8}My partner at the time summed it up. 61 00:03:40,574 --> 00:03:44,370 {\an8}"Shawn Johnson was the fire, and Mike Magan was the can of gasoline." 62 00:03:45,037 --> 00:03:47,456 I heard one description that I'm not sure if I agree with, 63 00:03:47,456 --> 00:03:49,667 but I was the brains and he was the brawn. 64 00:03:49,667 --> 00:03:51,126 Don't agree with that 100%, 65 00:03:51,126 --> 00:03:53,128 but the brain part I agree with for myself. 66 00:03:54,713 --> 00:03:58,467 [Mike] Ellen Glasser was a very talented supervisor 67 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:01,762 who believed in the "KISS" method: Keep It Simple, Stupid. 68 00:04:01,762 --> 00:04:05,474 [Ellen] As one of the first women agents in the FBI, 69 00:04:05,474 --> 00:04:07,434 to be able to be supervising 70 00:04:07,434 --> 00:04:10,646 this violent crime squad and the task force 71 00:04:10,646 --> 00:04:12,314 was such an awesome thing for me. 72 00:04:13,816 --> 00:04:17,528 Not only was I in this badass job, 73 00:04:17,528 --> 00:04:20,698 I also was blessed to have four young children, 74 00:04:20,698 --> 00:04:24,368 and so sometimes I feel like I was two different people. 75 00:04:25,119 --> 00:04:27,162 A lot of the guys called me Agent Mom. 76 00:04:30,624 --> 00:04:32,626 [intriguing music playing] 77 00:04:35,921 --> 00:04:40,050 [man 4] In the '90s, Seattle was a city in major transition. 78 00:04:40,634 --> 00:04:42,094 [intriguing music continues] 79 00:04:44,054 --> 00:04:48,350 You went from a two company town, Weyerhaeuser and Boeing, 80 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:49,893 {\an8}to then you add Microsoft, 81 00:04:49,893 --> 00:04:52,563 {\an8}and then all the companies that came around Microsoft. 82 00:04:53,981 --> 00:04:55,607 Bezos from Amazon. 83 00:04:56,483 --> 00:04:59,028 Starbucks was growing like gangbusters. 84 00:05:00,321 --> 00:05:03,407 There was a flood of money that came into Seattle. 85 00:05:04,450 --> 00:05:07,036 It was amazing how many banks were popping up. 86 00:05:07,703 --> 00:05:09,496 I didn't put two and two together at the time 87 00:05:09,496 --> 00:05:13,375 that all the cash coming in from the tech boom was fueling this, 88 00:05:13,375 --> 00:05:15,711 but you could find a bank in the grocery store. 89 00:05:15,711 --> 00:05:17,796 You could find a bank just about every corner. 90 00:05:18,297 --> 00:05:22,384 [reporter] In Washington state, the number of bank robberies is exploding. 91 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:24,762 I told my wife, "Don't go into a bank in Seattle." 92 00:05:24,762 --> 00:05:26,305 Chances are it'll get robbed." 93 00:05:26,305 --> 00:05:29,058 [reporter 1] Three men ran into the US Branch Bank in Woodinville 94 00:05:29,058 --> 00:05:30,017 with a shotgun... 95 00:05:30,017 --> 00:05:31,477 [reporter 2] A man enters the bank, 96 00:05:31,477 --> 00:05:33,979 and usually passes a note to the teller demanding money. 97 00:05:33,979 --> 00:05:35,981 [David] There were a lot of bank robberies. 98 00:05:35,981 --> 00:05:38,984 I don't know that we did one every night, but we did a lot of them. 99 00:05:38,984 --> 00:05:41,528 {\an8}Let's go to Deborah Horne, who's at the scene with the latest. 100 00:05:41,528 --> 00:05:43,614 {\an8}That's right, David. Just a very few moments ago... 101 00:05:43,614 --> 00:05:45,491 {\an8}[woman 1] Seattle was an exciting place. 102 00:05:45,991 --> 00:05:48,243 We were sort of coming into our own as a city, 103 00:05:48,243 --> 00:05:50,746 certainly in terms of being well-known around the country. 104 00:05:50,746 --> 00:05:53,791 We had Nirvana, so you have grunge. 105 00:05:53,791 --> 00:05:56,418 [David] Grunge, to me, to a certain extent, 106 00:05:56,418 --> 00:05:59,880 was that frustration that a lot of people were feeling 107 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,634 about changes that were coming to their communities. 108 00:06:03,634 --> 00:06:06,470 [man 6] The whole grunge thing, it was so anti-corporate 109 00:06:06,470 --> 00:06:09,848 and anti-brands and big-name and fame was all... [scoffs] 110 00:06:09,848 --> 00:06:12,142 Nobody cared. Nobody wanted any of that shit. 111 00:06:12,142 --> 00:06:14,978 People were literally anti-establishment for all the right reasons. 112 00:06:14,978 --> 00:06:17,940 They hated all the oppression, they hated the colonialism, 113 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:20,818 they hated the attack on human rights and the environment. 114 00:06:20,818 --> 00:06:23,028 And ripping off banks, if they're getting away with it? 115 00:06:23,028 --> 00:06:24,113 People love that. 116 00:06:24,113 --> 00:06:27,449 [reporter] He's robbed 14 banks in Seattle since, uh, June of 1992. 117 00:06:27,449 --> 00:06:29,451 Wow! He's pretty clever. [chuckles] 118 00:06:30,244 --> 00:06:31,370 Darn clever. 119 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:33,205 It's the ultimate F-you to the man. 120 00:06:34,039 --> 00:06:36,333 - [woman] It's Mr. Hollywood. - [reporter] Hollywood, right. 121 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:39,169 We knew that there was a guy with a bunch of disguises 122 00:06:39,169 --> 00:06:41,713 who was robbing banks, not hurting anybody. 123 00:06:41,713 --> 00:06:43,048 No shots were fired. 124 00:06:43,048 --> 00:06:44,842 Sounds very bold. [chuckles] 125 00:06:45,342 --> 00:06:51,014 There may have been some rooting for him, and people talk about Robin Hood... 126 00:06:52,433 --> 00:06:55,602 {\an8}[Jimmy] The mystique of the bank robber goes back to the Robin Hood thing. 127 00:06:55,602 --> 00:06:58,105 {\an8}You steal from the rich and give to the poor. 128 00:06:58,105 --> 00:07:00,023 Duh. How noble is that? 129 00:07:01,275 --> 00:07:04,069 [Ellen] He was kind of legendary in terms of bank robbers. 130 00:07:05,070 --> 00:07:09,199 [Mike] But in terms of who Hollywood was, we couldn't have been more wrong. 131 00:07:10,659 --> 00:07:12,661 [birds chirping] 132 00:07:17,249 --> 00:07:18,083 Hey, Bubba! 133 00:07:21,170 --> 00:07:23,088 [man 7] Wow, a man with his shirt off. 134 00:07:24,339 --> 00:07:25,174 Come on back! 135 00:07:28,093 --> 00:07:29,344 [man 7] Let's go, boys. Come on. 136 00:07:31,722 --> 00:07:34,308 - You still filming? - [man 7] We're filming this whole trip. 137 00:07:35,767 --> 00:07:37,269 You gotta hold the camera steady. 138 00:07:37,269 --> 00:07:39,396 [man 7] That's a little easier said than done, man. 139 00:07:40,522 --> 00:07:43,775 As you can see, we're deep in the forest. 140 00:07:46,445 --> 00:07:48,113 And there's not a whole lot of light. 141 00:07:53,368 --> 00:07:55,370 [pensive music playing] 142 00:07:58,832 --> 00:08:01,585 - Okay, Tarzan. What do you want to do? - Go up top. 143 00:08:01,585 --> 00:08:03,295 - [man 7] Go up top? - Yeah. 144 00:08:04,421 --> 00:08:06,548 [man 7] We're going into Scurlock's domain. 145 00:08:07,382 --> 00:08:08,967 What's the elevation here, mate? 146 00:08:09,468 --> 00:08:11,929 - [Scurlock] 75 feet. - [man 7] 75 feet above what? 147 00:08:11,929 --> 00:08:13,388 [Scurlock] The floor of the cedars. 148 00:08:14,431 --> 00:08:15,307 Down there. 149 00:08:18,101 --> 00:08:19,353 [man 7] Tell us the story, mate. 150 00:08:19,353 --> 00:08:21,480 How long did it take you? What's the deal here? 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,649 Took me about two weeks to build this whole thing. 152 00:08:23,649 --> 00:08:26,527 - [man 7] Two weeks to build this. - Six stories. 153 00:08:27,986 --> 00:08:29,488 Fifty-eight tons of wood. 154 00:08:29,488 --> 00:08:32,074 Did a little work. Kind of ate breakfast before I did it. 155 00:08:32,574 --> 00:08:36,203 [man 7 laughs] Okay. 156 00:08:36,203 --> 00:08:38,288 Okay, no, it really took maybe... I don't know. 157 00:08:40,123 --> 00:08:42,376 - Three or four months? - [man 7] Three or four months. 158 00:08:42,376 --> 00:08:44,711 [tranquil music playing] 159 00:08:47,339 --> 00:08:50,300 [woman 3] The Treehouse was a really amazing, amazing place. 160 00:08:51,134 --> 00:08:55,013 A place you could go to get out of the norm of society. 161 00:08:57,724 --> 00:09:01,186 [woman 4] The first time I went to the Treehouse, Scott answered the door. 162 00:09:01,687 --> 00:09:04,356 He was stripped naked except his tool belt. 163 00:09:06,191 --> 00:09:08,360 I'd never had anybody answer the door quite like that, 164 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,488 but I pretended that it was an everyday occurrence. 165 00:09:12,698 --> 00:09:16,034 You'd see furniture, like you would in a normal house, 166 00:09:16,535 --> 00:09:22,082 and you'd walk across the deck, and here was a toilet, here was a shower. 167 00:09:22,708 --> 00:09:24,126 It was like a real bathroom, 168 00:09:24,126 --> 00:09:26,795 except you had a wonderful outdoor experience. 169 00:09:28,505 --> 00:09:33,010 [Elizabeth] It was built around seven trees and it was really well-made. 170 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:35,887 It was like cedar boards and picture windows. 171 00:09:35,887 --> 00:09:37,931 It was an extravagant tree house. 172 00:09:38,432 --> 00:09:40,058 There was a huge oven range, 173 00:09:40,642 --> 00:09:43,478 and we carried this oven range up the stairs, 174 00:09:43,478 --> 00:09:45,439 70 feet to the first floor. 175 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,942 [man 2] My brother was good friends with Scott, 176 00:09:48,942 --> 00:09:51,570 {\an8}and he said he'd hire me to come out and build his house. 177 00:09:51,570 --> 00:09:53,322 {\an8}And I said, "Yeah, why not?" 178 00:09:53,989 --> 00:09:56,783 We did some of the most insane construction. 179 00:09:56,783 --> 00:09:58,994 We would be hanging from ropes from our ankles 180 00:09:58,994 --> 00:10:01,747 to be able to nail it and bolt it in place. And... 181 00:10:02,456 --> 00:10:03,957 It was insanely dangerous. 182 00:10:03,957 --> 00:10:06,209 All of it was dangerous, but we didn't care. 183 00:10:07,002 --> 00:10:09,004 {\an8}[gentle music playing] 184 00:10:10,255 --> 00:10:13,842 {\an8}The Treehouse was Scott's inner personality that came to life. 185 00:10:14,509 --> 00:10:17,679 {\an8}He was safe. It was his harbor. It was his anchor. 186 00:10:18,263 --> 00:10:19,723 {\an8}He was free from it all. 187 00:10:22,351 --> 00:10:24,978 {\an8}[Scott] I'm sitting at my desk, 40 feet in the trees. 188 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:30,776 The deck extends off the rim like a ballerina's tutu in full twirl. 189 00:10:31,985 --> 00:10:34,613 It's wide enough in places to bake in the sun's rays, 190 00:10:35,155 --> 00:10:38,325 and maybe catch a wink of sleep if you're not scared of rolling off. 191 00:10:39,034 --> 00:10:39,993 [man 7] What's going on? 192 00:10:39,993 --> 00:10:43,705 [Scott] I like just sitting on the edge, gazing across the trees at Mount Rainier. 193 00:10:43,705 --> 00:10:44,623 [man 7] Talk to us. 194 00:10:44,623 --> 00:10:46,875 [Scott] I get a feeling of subtle exhilaration. 195 00:10:48,627 --> 00:10:50,170 I want a lot out of this life. 196 00:10:51,672 --> 00:10:53,048 I think it will be a long search 197 00:10:53,048 --> 00:10:55,342 before I find the place where God wants me. 198 00:10:56,426 --> 00:10:59,554 {\an8}My mind is like an undisciplined child that has gone wild. 199 00:11:00,722 --> 00:11:02,099 {\an8}I'll just have to catch it. 200 00:11:07,479 --> 00:11:11,650 {\an8}Everybody loved Scott. Everybody loved the Treehouse. 201 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:13,110 The two were connected. 202 00:11:14,611 --> 00:11:17,322 We clicked right away when we first met in school 203 00:11:17,322 --> 00:11:20,617 and we just both had a lot of energy, wild and free. 204 00:11:20,617 --> 00:11:22,160 We'd like to drink beer. 205 00:11:23,578 --> 00:11:25,372 Mark Biggins is an interesting character. 206 00:11:25,372 --> 00:11:28,250 He and Scott went to Evergreen College together. 207 00:11:29,918 --> 00:11:34,172 [Elizabeth] People that came to Evergreen were in some ways misfits. 208 00:11:34,172 --> 00:11:35,382 Me included. 209 00:11:35,382 --> 00:11:37,217 People are pretty progressive. 210 00:11:37,217 --> 00:11:42,764 It wasn't like people taking crazy drugs and drinking and being crazy in that way. 211 00:11:42,764 --> 00:11:43,765 It was very earthy. 212 00:11:43,765 --> 00:11:48,019 Playing drums and taking mushrooms and sitting around fires. 213 00:11:48,019 --> 00:11:50,731 It was also a very tight community. 214 00:11:51,815 --> 00:11:53,567 [Mark] Fate just threw us together. 215 00:11:53,567 --> 00:11:56,653 Scott was this wild and free guy. 216 00:11:56,653 --> 00:11:59,448 Even more so than the other Evergreen students 217 00:11:59,448 --> 00:12:01,700 who were considered wild and free. 218 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:06,288 Mark is just a really tender, gentle soul, you know? 219 00:12:06,288 --> 00:12:10,292 He played guitar and wrote poetry. 220 00:12:11,084 --> 00:12:14,004 But he was having a really hard time. He was struggling. 221 00:12:14,504 --> 00:12:16,965 So I think Scotty really helped him out. 222 00:12:16,965 --> 00:12:20,844 [Mark] I called him on the phone, and I said, "Man, my marriage is over." 223 00:12:20,844 --> 00:12:23,180 "I don't know what I'm gonna do, where I'm gonna go." 224 00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:26,725 And he says, "Well, get on up here! Move in with me." 225 00:12:27,726 --> 00:12:30,187 [Steve] Mark Biggins was a big, gruff man. 226 00:12:30,187 --> 00:12:34,149 He smoked Chesterfield straights. He probably did a pack or two packs a day. 227 00:12:34,149 --> 00:12:37,068 He would knock bourbons down like it was no big deal. 228 00:12:37,068 --> 00:12:39,154 That was the bond between him and Scott. 229 00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:41,490 Biggins could drink Scott to hell. 230 00:12:49,122 --> 00:12:52,459 [Mark] I lived at the Treehouse for many years. So did my daughter. 231 00:12:53,043 --> 00:12:56,129 And perfect strangers would come knocking on the door 232 00:12:56,129 --> 00:12:58,215 {\an8}and they'd say, uh, 233 00:12:59,132 --> 00:13:02,677 {\an8}"Oh, we heard there's this really cool tree house on this property." 234 00:13:02,677 --> 00:13:05,514 {\an8}Or "Can we go see it?" And we'd have to turn them away. 235 00:13:05,514 --> 00:13:09,559 I mean, it got so bad we actually built a gate across the driveway. 236 00:13:11,228 --> 00:13:14,022 And the Treehouse was not built by Scott alone, 237 00:13:14,856 --> 00:13:17,025 even though it's been quoted in many places, 238 00:13:17,734 --> 00:13:21,238 but, uh, dozens of people worked on that place. 239 00:13:23,406 --> 00:13:25,867 [woman 5] My brother Scott was never gonna be controlled 240 00:13:25,867 --> 00:13:27,202 and he wanted to be free. 241 00:13:27,744 --> 00:13:31,498 He was an adrenaline junkie. He loved doing daring things. 242 00:13:32,207 --> 00:13:35,085 We're sitting at 60 feet up in the air at six stories and 243 00:13:35,794 --> 00:13:37,629 this is the first time I've ever done this. 244 00:13:37,629 --> 00:13:38,755 [laughter] 245 00:13:39,381 --> 00:13:42,717 [Mark] So he's gonna do approximately a 100-foot climb upside down. 246 00:13:43,593 --> 00:13:46,304 Anytime go, Rambo, Tarzan. 247 00:13:46,304 --> 00:13:47,681 [Scott] Woo! 248 00:13:50,934 --> 00:13:54,354 - Whoa! - [Mark] Oh! [laughs] 249 00:13:54,354 --> 00:13:57,399 He just kept wanting to go higher and higher and higher 250 00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:59,818 and he needed more and more and more. 251 00:13:59,818 --> 00:14:02,487 [Mark] Right now, if he slipped he's gonna fall 252 00:14:04,239 --> 00:14:05,532 60 feet to the ground. 253 00:14:05,532 --> 00:14:06,658 [Scott] This is hard! 254 00:14:06,658 --> 00:14:08,910 [Mark] I told you. This is a death act, my friend. 255 00:14:08,910 --> 00:14:10,579 [Suzanne] He was, uh, an adventurer. 256 00:14:10,579 --> 00:14:15,959 He loved the excitement of life, and wanted new things and new experiences. 257 00:14:17,002 --> 00:14:20,005 But he made certain pivotal choices 258 00:14:20,005 --> 00:14:23,508 that led him into directions he couldn't turn around and back out of. 259 00:14:25,677 --> 00:14:27,679 [intriguing music playing] 260 00:14:35,937 --> 00:14:38,398 [Scott] In my studies, I've gotten on the wrong track, 261 00:14:38,398 --> 00:14:41,067 delving into areas not good for my spiritual growth. 262 00:14:44,029 --> 00:14:46,197 A voice speaks loud and clear. 263 00:14:46,197 --> 00:14:48,241 "Remember what you are here for." 264 00:14:49,492 --> 00:14:52,203 I understand, but do not change course. 265 00:14:53,538 --> 00:14:57,208 He was always in pursuit of something of his own world. 266 00:15:02,213 --> 00:15:03,465 [Mark] When I first met him, 267 00:15:03,465 --> 00:15:06,384 he was aspiring to get a degree in medicine, 268 00:15:06,885 --> 00:15:11,473 but that fell by the wayside once he worked in the chemistry lab 269 00:15:11,473 --> 00:15:14,100 and he saw an opportunity to make a lot of money. 270 00:15:21,733 --> 00:15:25,654 Scott was the first person in my life I had ever known to produce crystal meth. 271 00:15:26,571 --> 00:15:27,864 He would, at nighttime, 272 00:15:27,864 --> 00:15:30,951 go up through the ceilings and crawl into the laboratory. 273 00:15:31,743 --> 00:15:35,372 Scotty's professors discovered him. They kicked him off the campus. 274 00:15:35,372 --> 00:15:38,833 Said, "Don't you ever, ever, ever, ever show your face here again." 275 00:15:40,001 --> 00:15:42,545 He was smart enough to have been a doctor. 276 00:15:43,046 --> 00:15:46,883 He was one course short of graduating in chemistry and biology. 277 00:15:46,883 --> 00:15:48,385 He would have been pre-med. 278 00:15:48,385 --> 00:15:49,803 But he didn't wanna be. 279 00:15:49,803 --> 00:15:52,222 That was not who he was and he knew that. 280 00:15:53,056 --> 00:15:55,558 And then he just continued right on down that road. 281 00:15:58,103 --> 00:16:01,189 [Steve] This grew and grew and grew and he became so prolific, 282 00:16:01,189 --> 00:16:04,442 and his product was so absolutely pure. 283 00:16:04,442 --> 00:16:06,945 If you were ever to try his stuff, 284 00:16:06,945 --> 00:16:10,615 I'm telling you, it was something unbelievable. 285 00:16:10,615 --> 00:16:17,414 He did have a reputation for producing some of the finest substance, uh, around. 286 00:16:17,414 --> 00:16:21,126 I never heard anybody say... say that somebody else's meth was better. 287 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,550 Scott's use of crystal meth was very moderate and controlled. 288 00:16:29,384 --> 00:16:33,513 He just enjoyed it and it inspired him for creativity. 289 00:16:34,764 --> 00:16:38,018 [Steve] As time went on, he bought a piece of property with a barn on it. 290 00:16:38,018 --> 00:16:40,437 And so I went out there to renovate the barn. 291 00:16:40,937 --> 00:16:44,024 In the loft of the barn, he had his whole laboratory set up. 292 00:16:45,942 --> 00:16:49,279 Captain Pat was the front man. He was the finance man. 293 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,614 The only times they met were in the forest, 294 00:16:51,614 --> 00:16:54,034 transferring product and money. 295 00:16:54,034 --> 00:16:56,911 When Scott would bring 180 lb. to Captain Pat, 296 00:16:56,911 --> 00:16:58,747 he would give him $2 million. 297 00:16:59,247 --> 00:17:03,084 [Mark] Pat was the one who introduced Scott to the meth world. 298 00:17:03,084 --> 00:17:05,587 The Captain, that was Pat's nickname. 299 00:17:05,587 --> 00:17:09,424 He'd take it down to Barstow and sell it to the Hells Angels. 300 00:17:09,424 --> 00:17:11,926 And then Scott would come back to the Treehouse 301 00:17:11,926 --> 00:17:14,304 with these boxes full of $20 bills. 302 00:17:14,304 --> 00:17:18,349 Scott and I would sit and count it out. We'd be up all night counting money. 303 00:17:18,349 --> 00:17:20,977 But this got dangerous. I mean, really dangerous. 304 00:17:22,062 --> 00:17:25,607 Captain Pat was murdered by some person who was trying to rob him 305 00:17:25,607 --> 00:17:27,192 and he was murdered in his sleep. 306 00:17:28,526 --> 00:17:30,403 Scott was devastated when he heard. 307 00:17:32,072 --> 00:17:35,700 But that's what people do in that world, and he didn't want to be any part of it. 308 00:17:36,534 --> 00:17:38,036 And that's when he quit. 309 00:17:39,412 --> 00:17:41,748 [Alban] Crystal meth was his income, period. 310 00:17:41,748 --> 00:17:46,169 And so when he quit distributing, he needed a new way to make money. 311 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:51,591 {\an8}[Steve] At that time in the '90s, 312 00:17:51,591 --> 00:17:53,718 {\an8}Point Break was one of the big bank robbery movies. 313 00:17:54,302 --> 00:17:56,554 [Bodhi] Little hand says it's time to rock and roll. 314 00:17:56,554 --> 00:18:00,600 [Steve] Scott would watch films and see different things to get ideas from. 315 00:18:01,768 --> 00:18:03,937 [Jimmy] Scott was down on banks and insurance companies. 316 00:18:03,937 --> 00:18:06,439 It feels like everyone at the time was. 317 00:18:06,439 --> 00:18:07,690 [Bodhi] On the floor, asshole. 318 00:18:07,690 --> 00:18:10,527 The money's insured, so it's not worth dying for. 319 00:18:11,611 --> 00:18:17,283 He was always wanting to find a way to beat the system. 320 00:18:17,283 --> 00:18:19,744 - He's a real searcher. - What's he searching for? 321 00:18:19,744 --> 00:18:22,038 [woman] The ride. The ultimate ride. 322 00:18:22,038 --> 00:18:25,250 [Steve] What he liked about Point Break was the individualism of Bodhi 323 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:26,835 and his fearlessness toward life, 324 00:18:26,835 --> 00:18:30,755 whether it was robbing banks or whether it was surfing on wild waves. 325 00:18:32,132 --> 00:18:34,217 And so when he got out of the drug business, 326 00:18:35,218 --> 00:18:37,470 that's when he said, "I'm gonna become a bank robber." 327 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:39,472 [Bodhi] Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, 328 00:18:39,472 --> 00:18:40,974 and please don't forget to vote! 329 00:18:41,766 --> 00:18:43,768 [tense music playing] 330 00:18:48,022 --> 00:18:49,983 {\an8}[Mark] The first bank we robbed, 331 00:18:49,983 --> 00:18:52,735 {\an8}we were just talking about it, kicking the idea around. 332 00:18:52,735 --> 00:18:55,947 {\an8}How would we do it? Could you do this and get away with it? 333 00:18:56,447 --> 00:18:58,324 Scott told Mark before the robbery, 334 00:18:58,324 --> 00:19:01,119 "Do not say anything. Just come in and keep people orderly." 335 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,371 "Okay, okay." He called him Boss. "Okay, boss." 336 00:19:03,913 --> 00:19:07,167 {\an8}[Mark] A friend of mine dropped us off a block away from the bank, 337 00:19:07,167 --> 00:19:11,212 {\an8}and she was supposed to meet us at this designated spot. 338 00:19:14,007 --> 00:19:18,178 {\an8}Our plan was to wait for a bank customer to arrive, 339 00:19:18,178 --> 00:19:19,971 {\an8}then use his car as a getaway car. 340 00:19:22,098 --> 00:19:24,893 {\an8}[Steve] Biggins puts his Ronald Reagan mask down. 341 00:19:26,102 --> 00:19:27,604 Rock and roll! 342 00:19:29,772 --> 00:19:32,942 {\an8}[Mark] Scott went in first. He was gonna announce the robbery 343 00:19:32,942 --> 00:19:35,612 {\an8}and then I would come in and make sure that nobody left. 344 00:19:37,197 --> 00:19:39,782 {\an8}I was so freaked out. 345 00:19:39,782 --> 00:19:42,827 {\an8}Like, "I can't believe this is actually happening 346 00:19:42,827 --> 00:19:44,412 {\an8}and I'm actually doing this." 347 00:19:45,288 --> 00:19:46,956 {\an8}[Steve] Biggins has his gun in his hand 348 00:19:46,956 --> 00:19:49,083 and he says, "Every motherfucker on the ground!" 349 00:19:49,083 --> 00:19:53,880 Scott turns around and says, "Everybody stand up! Stand up!" [laughs] 350 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,258 Because he doesn't want anybody walking by to see people on the ground. 351 00:19:58,676 --> 00:20:00,678 {\an8}[Mark] I think Scott ordered everybody on the ground. 352 00:20:00,678 --> 00:20:03,890 {\an8}I think everybody was down when I walked into the bank. 353 00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:09,020 {\an8}If you've ever been in a car that you've lost control, 354 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,939 {\an8}and it, you know, things slow down, 355 00:20:11,648 --> 00:20:13,483 {\an8}that's what happened to me in the bank. 356 00:20:13,483 --> 00:20:15,068 {\an8}Everything was in slow motion. 357 00:20:16,027 --> 00:20:17,570 {\an8}Finally, it was time to leave, 358 00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:19,989 {\an8}and Scott goes, "Mark, did you get the keys?" 359 00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:22,825 {\an8}He actually used my name. 360 00:20:23,993 --> 00:20:28,081 {\an8}I bent down and I said, "Sir, can I have your car keys?" 361 00:20:28,081 --> 00:20:31,584 {\an8}And the poor guy, he was really frightened. 362 00:20:32,418 --> 00:20:36,381 {\an8}It's a brand-new car and I couldn't hear that it had started. 363 00:20:37,423 --> 00:20:38,383 {\an8}[engine starts] 364 00:20:41,135 --> 00:20:43,596 {\an8}And as I was doing that, this other car pulls in. 365 00:20:47,308 --> 00:20:49,769 {\an8}Finally Scott goes, "I think the car's started." 366 00:20:49,769 --> 00:20:51,771 {\an8}"Put it in reverse. Let's get out of here." 367 00:20:52,272 --> 00:20:54,274 {\an8}We started driving through suburbia. 368 00:20:55,275 --> 00:20:59,570 {\an8}We get out at this designated spot and there's no van. 369 00:20:59,570 --> 00:21:03,116 {\an8}My friend panicked and went to point B. We had a backup. 370 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,247 {\an8}And we end up running across this golf course. 371 00:21:11,207 --> 00:21:13,751 {\an8}We could hear police cars coming. There are sirens. 372 00:21:14,711 --> 00:21:17,547 {\an8}And there's my friend, parked where she's supposed to be. 373 00:21:17,547 --> 00:21:19,632 {\an8}[sirens wail] 374 00:21:20,842 --> 00:21:22,760 That's the way it was. It was a comedy of errors. 375 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,013 I don't know how they didn't get caught, but they didn't. 376 00:21:25,013 --> 00:21:26,431 {\an8}[Mark] And then I started thinking 377 00:21:26,431 --> 00:21:29,809 {\an8}about all the possible clues we might have left behind. 378 00:21:29,809 --> 00:21:31,311 {\an8}We used Scott's van. 379 00:21:31,311 --> 00:21:33,646 {\an8}If anybody took down the license plate, 380 00:21:33,646 --> 00:21:36,816 {\an8}I thought, "Well, they're gonna show up any minute." 381 00:21:36,816 --> 00:21:38,693 {\an8}At one point, I sat up and said, 382 00:21:38,693 --> 00:21:41,112 {\an8}"I am never doing that again." 383 00:21:41,612 --> 00:21:46,993 {\an8}Scott goes, "Are you sure? Let's go do another one! Right now!" [laughs] 384 00:21:48,077 --> 00:21:51,956 {\an8}[Steve] After the robbery, Biggins got real scared and drove off to Montana. 385 00:21:55,043 --> 00:21:58,796 {\an8}But all of the failures inspired Scott to go deeper into it. 386 00:22:00,673 --> 00:22:03,343 {\an8}He realized he could handle the banks himself 387 00:22:03,343 --> 00:22:05,762 {\an8}as long as everything outside was controlled. 388 00:22:06,262 --> 00:22:07,680 {\an8}And that's why he came for me. 389 00:22:08,806 --> 00:22:10,933 He was very scientific, analytical. 390 00:22:11,601 --> 00:22:14,437 I was more improvising, artistic. 391 00:22:15,146 --> 00:22:19,275 I had worked in sculpture throughout Europe, in Germany and Norway. 392 00:22:21,235 --> 00:22:23,780 I didn't care about the banks themselves. It didn't matter. 393 00:22:23,780 --> 00:22:24,989 "Great. Take 'em down." 394 00:22:24,989 --> 00:22:27,116 "Take every last penny they have in the bank." 395 00:22:27,116 --> 00:22:29,202 "That's no problem for me." 396 00:22:29,202 --> 00:22:34,415 But I couldn't imagine doing it. I just thought, "This is... This is insane." 397 00:22:35,208 --> 00:22:38,169 But it's Scott and he's convincing. 398 00:22:38,669 --> 00:22:42,423 He said, "Man, this is the easiest thing. It's like taking candy from kids." 399 00:22:43,007 --> 00:22:45,009 "There's millions to be made in this." 400 00:22:47,804 --> 00:22:49,180 But, as we always said, 401 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:51,974 there is no school of training for bank robbers. 402 00:22:53,518 --> 00:22:54,977 Doing what Scott and I did 403 00:22:54,977 --> 00:22:57,438 is the most creative thing I've ever done in my life. 404 00:22:57,438 --> 00:22:59,023 Much more than the art world. 405 00:23:01,234 --> 00:23:04,904 Finding the perfect bank was a moment of exhilaration. 406 00:23:05,405 --> 00:23:10,159 {\an8}It's like finding a piece of marble that is perfect for some image 407 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:11,869 {\an8}that I have that I want to sculpt. 408 00:23:12,745 --> 00:23:15,915 I would sit on the street, close enough that I could observe it. 409 00:23:16,499 --> 00:23:19,710 I'd write down the time of arrival of armored cars. 410 00:23:20,420 --> 00:23:22,630 The deliveries were an important time of day 411 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:24,924 because that's when you've got the most money in the bank. 412 00:23:27,301 --> 00:23:29,554 If it was summer, I would have my windows down 413 00:23:29,554 --> 00:23:31,889 and I'd have Bach or jazz going on. 414 00:23:34,434 --> 00:23:37,311 {\an8}I'd be on the scanner all day, listening to the police calls. 415 00:23:39,188 --> 00:23:40,106 {\an8}[police radio chatter] 416 00:23:40,106 --> 00:23:43,109 {\an8}[Steve] And I would watch the patrols in that bank area 417 00:23:43,109 --> 00:23:46,362 to know when they'd come. I would log down the times. 418 00:23:48,322 --> 00:23:49,824 A number of the banks we did, 419 00:23:49,824 --> 00:23:52,827 there was a very consistent patrol route 420 00:23:52,827 --> 00:23:55,746 that the cops took at certain times of the day. 421 00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:57,957 We learned these routes 422 00:23:57,957 --> 00:24:00,626 so that five minutes after the cops left the area, 423 00:24:00,626 --> 00:24:02,420 we knew it was time to hit the banks. 424 00:24:04,672 --> 00:24:07,675 I spent months driving around the streets doing surveillance. 425 00:24:13,764 --> 00:24:17,435 You can't get a jump on a bank going in with some stupid mask on. 426 00:24:17,435 --> 00:24:18,352 It's ridiculous. 427 00:24:19,479 --> 00:24:23,024 {\an8}So I would prepare these prosthetics, like they do in Hollywood. 428 00:24:23,024 --> 00:24:25,109 {\an8}["Goodbye Horses" by Q Lazzarus playing] 429 00:24:28,029 --> 00:24:32,950 {\an8}What we wanted were just components, like a nose, a chin, cheeks. 430 00:24:33,618 --> 00:24:35,411 ["Goodbye Horses" continues] 431 00:24:37,997 --> 00:24:39,790 He wore D.A.R.E. caps for two reasons. 432 00:24:39,790 --> 00:24:41,375 The first thing people think of 433 00:24:41,375 --> 00:24:43,878 is that he's probably a cop who wears a D.A.R.E. hat, 434 00:24:44,378 --> 00:24:46,005 and also to smite the police. 435 00:24:46,005 --> 00:24:49,050 'Cause it's like, "Here I am." You know what I mean? "Dare me." 436 00:24:49,050 --> 00:24:53,012 ♪ I see my hopes and dreams lying on the ground... ♪ 437 00:24:53,012 --> 00:24:55,973 [Steve] When I first saw him, he came back from the woods 438 00:24:55,973 --> 00:24:57,767 and I just stood there frozen. 439 00:24:57,767 --> 00:25:02,480 I go, "Oh my God Almighty. What in the fuck is this?" 440 00:25:03,689 --> 00:25:07,318 I could look at it and there'd be no way you'd ever think this was Scott Scurlock. 441 00:25:07,318 --> 00:25:08,653 ♪ Goodbye horses... ♪ 442 00:25:08,653 --> 00:25:11,739 [Scott] I feel transformed in an eerie, magical way. 443 00:25:11,739 --> 00:25:13,115 ♪ I'm flying over... ♪ 444 00:25:13,115 --> 00:25:15,243 [Scott] I'm changing rapidly in this stage of my life. 445 00:25:15,243 --> 00:25:17,578 ♪ Goodbye horses... ♪ 446 00:25:17,578 --> 00:25:19,455 [Scott] I feel like a different person. 447 00:25:19,455 --> 00:25:22,542 ♪ I'm flying, flying, flying ♪ 448 00:25:23,251 --> 00:25:25,253 {\an8}[tense music playing] 449 00:25:30,675 --> 00:25:33,094 [Steve] The very first bank robbery that I did 450 00:25:33,094 --> 00:25:35,930 was the same bank that he did with Mark six weeks earlier. 451 00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:40,226 The important thing in taking down a bank 452 00:25:40,226 --> 00:25:44,438 is that initial 15 seconds when nobody thinks anything's happening. 453 00:25:46,649 --> 00:25:49,402 And he looked like a person that might have had a skin ailment. 454 00:25:50,361 --> 00:25:52,905 So people would avoid looking at him. 455 00:25:55,491 --> 00:25:56,617 [teller] How can I help you? 456 00:25:56,617 --> 00:25:58,619 This is a robbery. Nobody move. 457 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,414 [Steve] He would pull the gun out casually. 458 00:26:03,291 --> 00:26:06,377 Nobody in their right mind would ever say no to this man. 459 00:26:07,169 --> 00:26:09,922 You two! Money in the bag. Everyone stay calm. 460 00:26:09,922 --> 00:26:11,632 [police radio chattering] 461 00:26:11,632 --> 00:26:15,386 [Steve] I was sitting with the scanner and the radio, and that was it. 462 00:26:15,386 --> 00:26:19,724 There was never any risk on my part because I had my own alibi. 463 00:26:19,724 --> 00:26:23,060 I had my own reason for being there, and I would never be caught, 464 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,521 unless of course I had to call him out of the bank. 465 00:26:25,521 --> 00:26:27,148 And the beauty of all of this 466 00:26:27,148 --> 00:26:31,235 was creating and developing one of these robberies 467 00:26:31,235 --> 00:26:35,031 so that everything would work flawlessly, safely, 468 00:26:35,031 --> 00:26:38,367 and that the actual outcome was what we wanted, which was the money. 469 00:26:39,952 --> 00:26:41,412 We didn't talk the whole way. 470 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,416 When we got to the Treehouse and began counting the money, 471 00:26:46,542 --> 00:26:48,878 it was just five or ten thousand dollars. 472 00:26:49,795 --> 00:26:51,505 I go, "Man. This is ridiculous." 473 00:26:51,505 --> 00:26:54,717 "Who wants to go to prison for this little bitty kibbles and bits?" 474 00:26:55,217 --> 00:26:57,219 [tense music playing] 475 00:26:58,721 --> 00:27:01,390 [Mike] In the early 1990s, I arrested my first bank robber, 476 00:27:01,390 --> 00:27:04,852 {\an8}and I thought, "Shit, this is like shooting fish in a pond." 477 00:27:04,852 --> 00:27:07,563 {\an8}I don't mean to say it in a braggadocios manner, 478 00:27:07,563 --> 00:27:10,691 but within a period of five or six months, 479 00:27:10,691 --> 00:27:14,820 I had cleared close to 80 cases, and it became very addictive. 480 00:27:15,905 --> 00:27:20,284 I was subsequently assigned to the FBI's violent crime task force. 481 00:27:21,077 --> 00:27:22,536 Hollywood flew under the radar 482 00:27:22,536 --> 00:27:25,331 for the first couple of robberies because of the low take. 483 00:27:25,331 --> 00:27:27,958 When a suspect gets on top of the counter and dances around 484 00:27:27,958 --> 00:27:29,960 and tries to get command and control, 485 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,172 and you have to carjack an old man for his Cadillac, 486 00:27:33,172 --> 00:27:35,591 it showed that these guys were bumbling idiots. 487 00:27:35,591 --> 00:27:39,887 They probably started to ask themselves, "Hey, what are we doing wrong here?" 488 00:27:41,222 --> 00:27:46,102 {\an8}[Steve] I said, "Scott, I'm not gonna do this for 10, 15, 20 thousand dollars." 489 00:27:46,102 --> 00:27:47,311 "It's stupid." 490 00:27:47,311 --> 00:27:50,189 "We either do this right, and we either go for the vault, 491 00:27:50,189 --> 00:27:51,399 or I don't do it anymore." 492 00:27:51,399 --> 00:27:53,317 "I don't wanna be messed up in this nonsense." 493 00:27:53,984 --> 00:27:56,821 He goes, "We can't do the vault 'cause I don't have enough information." 494 00:27:56,821 --> 00:27:59,031 - So he hired Mustang. - [telephone rings] 495 00:27:59,907 --> 00:28:04,412 Mustang was a special young woman. I've never quite met a woman like her. 496 00:28:04,412 --> 00:28:05,788 [sultry music playing] 497 00:28:07,123 --> 00:28:10,501 She was hired to work in the Seafirst Bank as a teller. 498 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:14,630 She got the manuals and she got all of the bank protocol 499 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:18,718 for teller stations, for the vaults, the armored car deliveries. 500 00:28:20,511 --> 00:28:23,264 Once we had all the inside information from Mustang, 501 00:28:23,264 --> 00:28:25,266 we knew we could do what we needed to do. 502 00:28:25,266 --> 00:28:27,351 {\an8}[funky music playing] 503 00:28:37,111 --> 00:28:39,280 [Steve] We learned from the protocol what to say. 504 00:28:40,865 --> 00:28:43,117 This is real. This is a robbery. 505 00:28:43,701 --> 00:28:46,495 [Steve] There's certain terminology you use to the bankers, 506 00:28:46,495 --> 00:28:50,082 and when they hear that terminology, they know you know what's going on. 507 00:28:51,625 --> 00:28:52,835 Who's the vault teller? 508 00:28:53,711 --> 00:28:54,628 [woman] That's me. 509 00:28:56,505 --> 00:28:58,299 [Steve] This was the phenomenon of Scott. 510 00:28:58,924 --> 00:29:00,634 He could control the lobby 511 00:29:00,634 --> 00:29:03,387 and still deal with the vault at the same time. 512 00:29:03,387 --> 00:29:05,473 [tense music playing] 513 00:29:08,309 --> 00:29:09,143 [Scott] Quickly. 514 00:29:10,561 --> 00:29:12,563 [tense music continues] 515 00:29:13,773 --> 00:29:15,483 [Steve] He wants them to be calm. 516 00:29:15,483 --> 00:29:17,610 "Go over there. Just open the vault." 517 00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:20,446 "There's no problem. Don't worry. Everything will be fine." 518 00:29:20,446 --> 00:29:22,198 "Just let me get in and get out." 519 00:29:23,157 --> 00:29:25,451 [tense music continues] 520 00:29:33,626 --> 00:29:36,962 [Steve] It's like he's going into this catacomb of fantasy. 521 00:29:36,962 --> 00:29:39,048 [tense music continues] 522 00:29:48,349 --> 00:29:49,391 Do you have another bag? 523 00:29:49,391 --> 00:29:50,601 [police radio chatter] 524 00:29:53,145 --> 00:29:55,731 [Scott] Everyone on the floor. Let's go! 525 00:29:56,565 --> 00:29:58,567 [tense music continues] 526 00:30:00,402 --> 00:30:03,697 [Steve] When we got home, we drove into the back of the studio. 527 00:30:03,697 --> 00:30:06,867 I said, "How'd you do?" And he says, "Oh, man, it wasn't... Not good." 528 00:30:06,867 --> 00:30:09,453 "It was another bad one." I go, "Oh, fuck me, man." 529 00:30:09,453 --> 00:30:10,788 "What, are you kidding me?" 530 00:30:10,788 --> 00:30:12,957 And we get in and he dumps out this big bag. 531 00:30:12,957 --> 00:30:14,583 And it's just like... And I go, "Oh, man." 532 00:30:14,583 --> 00:30:16,669 [tense music continues] 533 00:30:18,587 --> 00:30:21,715 That was the biggest haul. It was the game changer. 534 00:30:22,716 --> 00:30:24,802 Not only for us, but for the FBI. 535 00:30:27,847 --> 00:30:28,806 [music fades] 536 00:30:29,598 --> 00:30:31,475 I began with the FBI in 1987. 537 00:30:32,059 --> 00:30:34,311 By the time of the Hollywood investigation, 538 00:30:34,311 --> 00:30:37,439 I was the most experienced agent in the Seattle division 539 00:30:37,439 --> 00:30:38,691 working bank robberies. 540 00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:44,238 I'm trying to recall the cases I worked where somebody did what Hollywood did, 541 00:30:44,238 --> 00:30:45,906 from doing teller drawers 542 00:30:45,906 --> 00:30:49,660 to doing armed takeovers to doing vault takeovers. 543 00:30:50,244 --> 00:30:53,914 I can't think of anyone else that took that route. 544 00:30:54,707 --> 00:30:58,752 The Hollywood investigation was similar to a jigsaw puzzle. 545 00:30:58,752 --> 00:31:00,963 We had little clues here, little clues here. 546 00:31:00,963 --> 00:31:02,756 Starting to put the big picture together. 547 00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:06,010 I think Hollywood was enjoying what he did. 548 00:31:06,927 --> 00:31:10,139 First four robberies, he got more than the average bank robber. 549 00:31:12,224 --> 00:31:14,226 But then he started going into the vaults. 550 00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:17,438 Doing vault robberies on your own is very risky, 551 00:31:17,438 --> 00:31:20,983 because you have no idea what's happening in the rest of the bank. 552 00:31:20,983 --> 00:31:24,820 It's more exposure. It's more potential for alarms going off. 553 00:31:25,946 --> 00:31:29,533 At that point in time, his level of sophistication went up. 554 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,160 The threat went up. 555 00:31:32,161 --> 00:31:34,997 It was a challenge to him, and he wanted to challenge us. 556 00:31:35,664 --> 00:31:37,750 But the big picture here was what? 557 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,878 It was, "Who is Hollywood? Who is Hollywood?" 558 00:31:43,172 --> 00:31:46,759 - [man] All right. You ready? - Welcome to the Treehouse. Come right in. 559 00:31:49,178 --> 00:31:51,805 [Suzanne] My parents were totally in awe of the Treehouse 560 00:31:51,805 --> 00:31:54,642 because my dad loved building things. 561 00:31:55,726 --> 00:31:58,228 [man laughs] This is going to be the dining room. 562 00:31:58,228 --> 00:31:59,146 [Scott] Yup. 563 00:31:59,146 --> 00:32:02,524 [Suzanne] It was one of the most remarkable edifices ever. 564 00:32:03,067 --> 00:32:08,614 So they were in awe of who Scotty was and what he had done in that arena. 565 00:32:08,614 --> 00:32:10,699 [wistful music playing] 566 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,369 We grew up in a loving household. 567 00:32:13,369 --> 00:32:17,373 My father was a minister, a very well-loved minister. 568 00:32:17,373 --> 00:32:20,751 My mother was a teacher of learning disabled children. 569 00:32:22,419 --> 00:32:26,507 We were preacher's kids, and darn it, from a very young age, 570 00:32:26,507 --> 00:32:29,635 we were gonna prove to everybody that we're not goody-two-shoes. 571 00:32:30,302 --> 00:32:34,014 [man] Both of us were very adventurous. That's what made us friends. 572 00:32:34,014 --> 00:32:37,893 He had a different quality, a fearlessness. 573 00:32:38,686 --> 00:32:41,855 There were showroom houses all around Reston, Virginia. 574 00:32:42,356 --> 00:32:44,733 We knew how to get into all of them. 575 00:32:45,609 --> 00:32:49,321 Scotty and I both learned how to pick locks. 576 00:32:49,321 --> 00:32:52,449 We did not learn to pick locks to steal anything. 577 00:32:52,449 --> 00:32:54,576 We learned how to pick locks 578 00:32:54,576 --> 00:32:57,329 so we could get to the other side of the door. 579 00:32:57,329 --> 00:32:59,415 [wistful music continues] 580 00:32:59,415 --> 00:33:02,334 [Suzanne] As he grew older into his teen years, 581 00:33:02,334 --> 00:33:04,753 he became more and more and more secretive. 582 00:33:04,753 --> 00:33:07,589 And we used to call him the master of disinformation 583 00:33:07,589 --> 00:33:10,009 because he wouldn't outright lie to you, 584 00:33:10,009 --> 00:33:14,930 but he would tell you something that you knew wasn't quite right 585 00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:16,515 or he would leave something out. 586 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,271 When he first started to do crazy stuff, 587 00:33:22,271 --> 00:33:26,483 one of the things he did, and I think he was 15, maybe 16, 588 00:33:26,483 --> 00:33:29,862 was that he and this friend stole a car, 589 00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:32,906 a van I believe, from a local day care center, 590 00:33:32,906 --> 00:33:35,200 and drove it to the beach, and they got caught. 591 00:33:36,994 --> 00:33:39,872 And I think that was a big break for my father, 592 00:33:39,872 --> 00:33:42,541 because he realized with that event 593 00:33:42,541 --> 00:33:45,210 that something had really gone south in Scotty. 594 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:47,337 [wistful music continues] 595 00:33:47,337 --> 00:33:53,260 He grew up and didn't outgrow the behavior that we had as kids or adolescents. 596 00:33:53,927 --> 00:33:56,305 He just sort of refined it and kept right on going. 597 00:33:57,431 --> 00:34:00,100 [Steve] Everything with Scott was a stepping stone. 598 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,354 The Hawthorne Hills Bank was the opening of a new world for us. 599 00:34:05,272 --> 00:34:07,691 {\an8}Once you enter the vaults, you're on another level. 600 00:34:09,443 --> 00:34:10,277 {\an8}At this point, 601 00:34:10,277 --> 00:34:13,572 {\an8}when we would intentionally leave a vehicle for the cops, 602 00:34:13,572 --> 00:34:15,365 {\an8}we would make sure we hired a person, 603 00:34:15,365 --> 00:34:19,495 {\an8}either a woman or some guy that looked totally different from us, 604 00:34:19,495 --> 00:34:23,582 {\an8}maybe he'd be 6 ft. 3 in. and long, scraggly hair or whatever, 605 00:34:24,249 --> 00:34:25,667 {\an8}give him $1,000, 606 00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:29,004 {\an8}he would go purchase the car, drive it to me, and I would take it. 607 00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:34,218 {\an8}We sanitized them with mineral spirits. 608 00:34:34,968 --> 00:34:39,223 {\an8}We would get female hair and put that in the back seat. 609 00:34:39,223 --> 00:34:42,017 {\an8}Tried to make it always as confusing as possible. 610 00:34:42,601 --> 00:34:44,186 Sometimes there were multiple roads 611 00:34:44,186 --> 00:34:46,480 leading to the bank where police would be coming, 612 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,024 so we would hire somebody as a lookout. 613 00:34:49,024 --> 00:34:53,612 My role, only two occasions I did, uh, was to be a point man. 614 00:34:53,612 --> 00:34:56,782 He gave me a radio, told me to park here. 615 00:34:57,366 --> 00:35:00,035 When you see the police coming, just say, "Mama's coming." 616 00:35:00,994 --> 00:35:02,246 That's all you gotta do. 617 00:35:02,246 --> 00:35:04,957 There was no hesitation on my part to help Scott out. 618 00:35:04,957 --> 00:35:07,501 You know, it was just a thing among friends. 619 00:35:08,085 --> 00:35:11,880 [Steve] One of Scott's main methodologies was to repeat robbing the same bank. 620 00:35:12,381 --> 00:35:14,633 Nobody's gonna believe that you're gonna come right back 621 00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:17,094 and do the same thing again within a few days. 622 00:35:21,557 --> 00:35:23,725 The first thing we'd do, we'd dump all the money out 623 00:35:23,725 --> 00:35:26,854 and then we would go through with ultraviolet lights 624 00:35:26,854 --> 00:35:29,022 any money that looked like it might be marked. 625 00:35:29,523 --> 00:35:30,858 New money was the most dangerous 626 00:35:30,858 --> 00:35:35,112 'cause you have sequential serial numbers, so we would scatter those around. 627 00:35:36,363 --> 00:35:40,284 We would lock up all of the equipment in military canisters 628 00:35:40,284 --> 00:35:42,202 that we would bury in the ground. 629 00:35:42,202 --> 00:35:44,538 Then we took the clothes back into the forest 630 00:35:44,538 --> 00:35:46,790 and we had a pit where we burned everything. 631 00:35:47,332 --> 00:35:49,376 After that, I had to go launder the money. 632 00:35:49,376 --> 00:35:51,628 ["I Want More" by Can playing] 633 00:35:51,628 --> 00:35:53,964 Scott did a lot of sportsbook gambling. 634 00:35:53,964 --> 00:35:56,758 And the laundering of the money, he thought of that. 635 00:35:56,758 --> 00:35:59,428 That was his creation. It's an ingenious creation. 636 00:36:01,096 --> 00:36:03,849 You place the same amount of money on both teams that are playing 637 00:36:03,849 --> 00:36:05,601 at two different casinos, 638 00:36:05,601 --> 00:36:07,936 and one of the teams is gonna win. 639 00:36:09,271 --> 00:36:11,315 So you end up getting back all your money 640 00:36:11,315 --> 00:36:13,817 except for what the house receives on the losing team, 641 00:36:13,817 --> 00:36:14,943 which is 5%. 642 00:36:16,111 --> 00:36:17,946 We weren't losing anything, really. 643 00:36:17,946 --> 00:36:19,489 ["I Want More" continues] 644 00:36:19,489 --> 00:36:21,867 Scott did a lot with his money 645 00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:24,411 and he just lived his life the way he wanted to live it. 646 00:36:24,411 --> 00:36:26,413 ["I Want More" continues] 647 00:36:28,207 --> 00:36:30,918 Travel, seeing the world, meeting different people. 648 00:36:30,918 --> 00:36:32,044 That's what he loved. 649 00:36:33,253 --> 00:36:36,089 [Scott] I have been realizing lately the virtues of traveling alone. 650 00:36:37,174 --> 00:36:40,010 All my wildest experiences have happened while I'm alone. 651 00:36:40,928 --> 00:36:43,055 [T.J.] Scott was definitely a man of mystery. 652 00:36:43,597 --> 00:36:45,265 He would disappear for a while. 653 00:36:46,058 --> 00:36:49,895 One time I thought maybe he was CIA. Maybe he was a pot grower. 654 00:36:52,397 --> 00:36:54,608 [Jimmy] I never really asked him what he did for money. 655 00:36:55,984 --> 00:36:59,988 He must be a contractor. I don't know. That's why he was so handy building. 656 00:37:04,993 --> 00:37:09,164 I found out that he was really interested in stopping the logging of the forest. 657 00:37:10,332 --> 00:37:11,959 [Steve] He worked with Earth First, 658 00:37:11,959 --> 00:37:14,878 and he would give donation money to these environmentalists. 659 00:37:14,878 --> 00:37:18,382 And I said, "Why do you do that, Scott? Why waste money on these hippies?" 660 00:37:18,966 --> 00:37:22,844 [Alban] Scott did view himself as a Robin Hood figure. 661 00:37:22,844 --> 00:37:26,431 And I think it was, uh, evident in the way he acquired the money 662 00:37:26,431 --> 00:37:28,517 and then also the way he dispersed it. 663 00:37:29,851 --> 00:37:32,604 [Jimmy] In terms of him being a Robin Hood figure, I know that was true. 664 00:37:32,604 --> 00:37:35,607 He gave money to me. He gave money to other people and other things. 665 00:37:35,607 --> 00:37:37,317 I saw him give money away. 666 00:37:38,235 --> 00:37:39,403 [Steve] He helped people. 667 00:37:39,403 --> 00:37:43,156 They needed something, he'd give them a few thousand dollars for whatever. 668 00:37:43,657 --> 00:37:45,033 He spread the money around. 669 00:37:46,201 --> 00:37:48,245 [Mark] It's a funny relationship you have with money. 670 00:37:48,245 --> 00:37:50,706 You didn't earn it. You stole it. You took it. 671 00:37:50,706 --> 00:37:52,749 Spend it freely, and then go get more. 672 00:37:52,749 --> 00:37:53,875 [Scott] Mmm, mmm. 673 00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:55,544 [Steve] He wasn't Robin Hood. 674 00:37:55,544 --> 00:37:57,421 If you look at Robin Hood, it was idealistic. 675 00:37:57,421 --> 00:38:00,382 He stole from the rich and gave, you know, all of that nonsense. 676 00:38:00,382 --> 00:38:01,758 And Scott wasn't like that. 677 00:38:01,758 --> 00:38:03,635 He helped people that he knew 678 00:38:03,635 --> 00:38:06,305 if he needed something in the future to be done, 679 00:38:06,305 --> 00:38:08,807 he could call on them and they would do it. 680 00:38:11,018 --> 00:38:13,020 [suspenseful music playing] 681 00:38:18,817 --> 00:38:21,695 [Steve] Regardless of how successful it all was, 682 00:38:21,695 --> 00:38:24,323 there's a certain point where you're challenging fate 683 00:38:24,323 --> 00:38:28,035 and it doesn't always turn out the way you want it to turn out. 684 00:38:28,035 --> 00:38:29,786 [suspenseful music continues] 685 00:38:29,786 --> 00:38:31,621 {\an8}One robbery we had to abort 686 00:38:31,621 --> 00:38:34,458 {\an8}because a customer recognized him as he was walking in. 687 00:38:37,002 --> 00:38:39,504 {\an8}I got the dispatch call, and I had to call him out. 688 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:42,758 [Steve on radio] We're out. Let's go, let's go. 689 00:38:43,633 --> 00:38:46,345 {\an8}[Steve] For the next one, as soon as he got in his getaway car, 690 00:38:46,345 --> 00:38:49,806 {\an8}the dye pack blew up and he threw that whole thing out. 691 00:38:49,806 --> 00:38:52,309 {\an8}[suspenseful music continues] 692 00:38:52,309 --> 00:38:53,393 {\an8}[tires screech] 693 00:38:54,603 --> 00:38:57,773 {\an8}We found the vehicle just blocks away from the bank. 694 00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:02,361 I sat in that station wagon at the scene for a couple of minutes, 695 00:39:02,361 --> 00:39:03,779 just absorbing that. 696 00:39:04,696 --> 00:39:07,532 That was the closest I had come to him at that point in time, 697 00:39:07,532 --> 00:39:10,410 sitting in that car waiting for the next robbery to happen. 698 00:39:11,828 --> 00:39:13,622 We were able to trace it to previous owners. 699 00:39:14,664 --> 00:39:17,459 Through that, we were able to develop composite sketches 700 00:39:17,459 --> 00:39:19,878 of individuals who had bought cars. 701 00:39:20,837 --> 00:39:22,756 [Ellen] We had a police profiler come in 702 00:39:22,756 --> 00:39:25,384 and brief all of the people that were working on the case 703 00:39:25,384 --> 00:39:27,552 who suggested that he might be a police officer. 704 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:32,766 We thought that because of the skill that he had when he was robbing banks. 705 00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:35,602 There was suspicion that Detective Magan had 706 00:39:35,602 --> 00:39:37,979 that Hollywood might be a police officer. 707 00:39:37,979 --> 00:39:41,691 Shawn Johnson had the belief that Hollywood could be a police officer. 708 00:39:42,275 --> 00:39:44,861 Did I believe he was a police officer? No. 709 00:39:44,861 --> 00:39:46,863 I didn't buy that theory. 710 00:39:46,863 --> 00:39:48,156 We definitely considered it, 711 00:39:48,156 --> 00:39:50,742 and we thought that that made him more dangerous. 712 00:39:51,535 --> 00:39:54,663 We wanted to get the word out so we could solve this case. 713 00:39:54,663 --> 00:39:55,914 So we used the media, 714 00:39:55,914 --> 00:39:59,209 and that was part of a very carefully laid-out plan. 715 00:40:00,001 --> 00:40:02,587 We told you about a bank robber nicknamed Hollywood. 716 00:40:02,587 --> 00:40:05,715 He's number one on the FBI's Most Wanted List. 717 00:40:05,715 --> 00:40:08,510 [reporter] Disguises are the reason the FBI dubbed this man Hollywood. 718 00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:10,762 He's successfully hit more than a dozen banks 719 00:40:10,762 --> 00:40:12,055 in the past four years. 720 00:40:12,055 --> 00:40:14,516 [David] It changed the story dramatically 721 00:40:14,516 --> 00:40:17,144 when the FBI came out with this nickname of Hollywood, 722 00:40:17,144 --> 00:40:21,022 because we knew that they were having a hard time tracking this guy, 723 00:40:21,022 --> 00:40:22,524 and it seemed to be on a cycle. 724 00:40:22,524 --> 00:40:24,901 Like every six months, a bank was being hit, 725 00:40:24,901 --> 00:40:26,903 and it became, "Was this Hollywood again?" 726 00:40:26,903 --> 00:40:29,197 [reporter] FBI agent Shawn Johnson's mission 727 00:40:29,197 --> 00:40:31,867 is to find anyone who knows anything about Hollywood. 728 00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:35,412 I think initially, we'll start off, uh, door-to-door, 729 00:40:35,412 --> 00:40:37,414 half of us on one side, half on the other. 730 00:40:37,414 --> 00:40:40,834 [David] You didn't usually see an FBI agent walk into a neighborhood 731 00:40:40,834 --> 00:40:43,795 and say, "Can you tell me anything about this bank robbery?" 732 00:40:43,795 --> 00:40:48,425 That was wild, to see an agent, you know, being so open. 733 00:40:48,425 --> 00:40:51,636 Also a clue that they had no clue. 734 00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:56,558 Maybe I wanted him to know that I was there, you know? 735 00:40:56,558 --> 00:40:59,728 I was there too. So here's me on TV. 736 00:40:59,728 --> 00:41:02,189 [mysterious music playing] 737 00:41:02,189 --> 00:41:04,733 [Mike] Most suspects followed their media. 738 00:41:04,733 --> 00:41:07,694 In fact, I think they actually loved it. 739 00:41:07,694 --> 00:41:09,571 {\an8}[Steve] The first time we heard about Hollywood 740 00:41:09,571 --> 00:41:11,907 was from the two-page article with Shawn Johnson. 741 00:41:11,907 --> 00:41:12,824 He was saying, 742 00:41:12,824 --> 00:41:15,410 "Somebody out there knows who this man is and we need your help." 743 00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:19,581 - [reporter 1] His nickname is Hollywood. - [reporter 2] Hollywood wears makeup... 744 00:41:19,581 --> 00:41:21,917 [Steve] That name influenced him immensely. 745 00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:23,627 I think it built him up even more. 746 00:41:23,627 --> 00:41:24,794 I think it excited him, 747 00:41:24,794 --> 00:41:28,590 without him saying it or acknowledging it, but I know his personality. 748 00:41:28,590 --> 00:41:29,883 Deep inside, he was proud. 749 00:41:29,883 --> 00:41:33,720 [Ellen] We thought he would rob again if he was getting so much attention. 750 00:41:37,307 --> 00:41:39,309 [tense music playing] 751 00:41:41,228 --> 00:41:44,356 [Steve] Each robbery was an opportunity to try something new. 752 00:41:45,774 --> 00:41:50,028 For the getaways, we would try to figure out what the FBI would expect us to do, 753 00:41:50,028 --> 00:41:51,905 and then we would just do the opposite. 754 00:41:52,489 --> 00:41:54,658 For the bank we wanted to do, to get away, 755 00:41:54,658 --> 00:41:57,536 you either go down Madison toward the police coming in, 756 00:41:57,536 --> 00:41:59,996 or you have to go all around the lake. 757 00:42:00,497 --> 00:42:03,208 So I said, "Why don't you get into the van and just stay there?" 758 00:42:03,208 --> 00:42:04,834 "And I'll go to a restaurant, 759 00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:07,087 and I'll sit and wait for the heat to go." 760 00:42:07,087 --> 00:42:09,756 "When the police are gone, I'll get back out in my car, 761 00:42:09,756 --> 00:42:12,801 and I'll radio you and let you know, uh, that it's clear to come out." 762 00:42:14,636 --> 00:42:17,847 {\an8}He had a van and we had it retrofitted so he could get under the floor. 763 00:42:17,847 --> 00:42:20,559 So if they shined lights in there, they couldn't see him. 764 00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:22,644 [tense music continues] 765 00:42:24,145 --> 00:42:26,273 I told Scott, I said, "Man, this is gonna be big." 766 00:42:26,773 --> 00:42:28,233 "I just had a dream last night." 767 00:42:28,233 --> 00:42:30,318 "We're gonna have over a quarter of a million dollars 768 00:42:30,318 --> 00:42:32,320 and you're gonna get out safely." 769 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,613 "It's not gonna be a problem." 770 00:42:34,364 --> 00:42:36,658 [tense music continues] 771 00:42:42,372 --> 00:42:44,374 [sirens wail] 772 00:42:45,292 --> 00:42:48,920 {\an8}[Steve] It was a good 45 minutes I was in the restaurant. 773 00:42:50,297 --> 00:42:52,299 {\an8}There was four or five cop cars out there, 774 00:42:52,299 --> 00:42:54,050 {\an8}and I could just look out the window 775 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:56,678 and see when it was dispersed and finished. 776 00:42:57,345 --> 00:43:01,474 {\an8}I arrive at the scene and I'm thinking, 777 00:43:02,475 --> 00:43:07,063 "Is this guy some kind of a ghost? How does he just slip away like that?" 778 00:43:07,063 --> 00:43:09,149 [tense music continues] 779 00:43:12,068 --> 00:43:14,404 {\an8}[Steve] One thing he discovered while he was in the van 780 00:43:14,404 --> 00:43:16,489 {\an8}was the condensation from his breathing. 781 00:43:17,657 --> 00:43:18,825 {\an8}If the police had been aware, 782 00:43:18,825 --> 00:43:21,494 {\an8}they would see that and think there was someone in there. 783 00:43:23,121 --> 00:43:25,081 I went over to a wine shop across the street 784 00:43:25,081 --> 00:43:28,001 and when I came out of the wine shop, they had all gone. 785 00:43:28,001 --> 00:43:29,461 And I went to the car 786 00:43:29,461 --> 00:43:32,505 and I got my radio out and I radioed Scott, 787 00:43:32,505 --> 00:43:34,049 and I said, "Boss, let's go." 788 00:43:42,891 --> 00:43:44,476 It was this cat and mouse game. 789 00:43:44,476 --> 00:43:47,896 It was clear that police and law enforcement were frustrated. 790 00:43:47,896 --> 00:43:50,357 They couldn't figure out who this person was. 791 00:43:50,357 --> 00:43:52,275 [reporter 1] What everyone seems to remember 792 00:43:52,275 --> 00:43:55,111 is how he orders people around and threatens to shoot them. 793 00:43:55,111 --> 00:43:56,946 [reporter 2] FBI agents are frustrated 794 00:43:56,946 --> 00:44:00,283 that Hollywood has been able to get away with so much for so long. 795 00:44:00,867 --> 00:44:03,745 They fear that he will turn violent before he's caught. 796 00:44:03,745 --> 00:44:06,665 [David] I think that's what changed the Hollywood story, 797 00:44:06,665 --> 00:44:09,626 is that, until we started to hear from the tellers 798 00:44:09,626 --> 00:44:12,837 who told these horrifying stories, he hadn't hurt anybody. 799 00:44:12,837 --> 00:44:14,339 [tense music playing] 800 00:44:14,339 --> 00:44:18,134 [Shawn] He got more desperate sometimes. He tried to get in the vault. 801 00:44:18,134 --> 00:44:21,304 The vault tellers weren't there to let him in, he got real upset. 802 00:44:21,304 --> 00:44:23,556 He said, "It's Christmas. I don't want to kill anybody," 803 00:44:23,556 --> 00:44:25,600 and used a stun gun on one of the employees. 804 00:44:26,101 --> 00:44:27,936 So he was willing to use weapons. 805 00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:31,147 I've seen people crying. 806 00:44:31,147 --> 00:44:34,317 I mean, just very emotional, and you're trying to get to the point 807 00:44:34,317 --> 00:44:38,029 where you calm them down a bit to... to talk to them, what happened. 808 00:44:38,029 --> 00:44:42,200 It was unlike any robbery that any of them had ever gone through before. 809 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,036 {\an8}[bank teller] We could not tell from one second to the next 810 00:44:45,036 --> 00:44:46,579 {\an8}what he was likely to do. 811 00:44:46,579 --> 00:44:48,915 {\an8}He was extremely threatening. 812 00:44:49,499 --> 00:44:52,085 [Ellen] Bank robbery is not a victimless crime. 813 00:44:52,627 --> 00:44:55,255 The people that are in the bank are traumatized, 814 00:44:55,255 --> 00:44:57,424 tellers are traumatized. 815 00:44:57,424 --> 00:45:01,928 When you have a gun pointed at your face, where people threaten to kill you, 816 00:45:01,928 --> 00:45:04,389 these take a toll on human beings. 817 00:45:04,389 --> 00:45:06,808 I've been robbed 14 times, 818 00:45:06,808 --> 00:45:09,686 and one of those was the Hollywood bank robber. 819 00:45:10,228 --> 00:45:12,480 He commanded this presence, 820 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,568 and he told everyone to freeze and everyone froze. 821 00:45:16,568 --> 00:45:20,155 It's unusual for a robber to have that much control. 822 00:45:20,697 --> 00:45:22,699 It doesn't ever leave you. 823 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:27,912 You can go on with your life, but it doesn't ever leave you. Ever. 824 00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:31,750 {\an8}[bank teller] There's got to be something more that we can do to stop these people. 825 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:33,501 {\an8}Somebody's going to get hurt. 826 00:45:33,501 --> 00:45:37,088 He thought that he was just having the greatest time, 827 00:45:37,088 --> 00:45:38,465 living his best life. 828 00:45:40,467 --> 00:45:43,762 But for him to think that he was gonna get away with this 829 00:45:44,262 --> 00:45:45,722 was just a false premise. 830 00:45:46,431 --> 00:45:47,348 [laughter] 831 00:45:48,016 --> 00:45:50,101 [Steve] When you step into the world we were living, 832 00:45:50,101 --> 00:45:52,687 you have no idea the toll it's gonna bring upon you. 833 00:45:52,687 --> 00:45:53,646 It's impossible. 834 00:45:55,398 --> 00:45:57,650 After so many years of bank robberies, 835 00:45:57,650 --> 00:46:01,196 you are no longer the same person that you were before you began. 836 00:46:03,198 --> 00:46:05,742 [Alban] Scott started to get stressed. 837 00:46:06,242 --> 00:46:09,913 He was no longer the casual, happy-go-lucky person. 838 00:46:09,913 --> 00:46:11,122 That person was gone. 839 00:46:12,624 --> 00:46:14,959 [T.J.] The vibe around the Treehouse changed. 840 00:46:14,959 --> 00:46:20,465 He became more closed off, and more isolated, and way less social. 841 00:46:21,633 --> 00:46:24,761 [Steve] Scott had me live up at the front house 842 00:46:24,761 --> 00:46:26,137 to keep people out of there. 843 00:46:26,638 --> 00:46:29,891 More and more, his life was becoming secretive 844 00:46:29,891 --> 00:46:31,518 and he needed to have people away. 845 00:46:31,518 --> 00:46:33,895 He didn't want people around, seeing what he was doing. 846 00:46:36,689 --> 00:46:40,985 {\an8}[Mark] Once you do cross the Rubicon and start living that life, 847 00:46:40,985 --> 00:46:44,531 {\an8}you have to lie to everybody about everything. 848 00:46:44,531 --> 00:46:47,617 Everybody you care about. Everybody you meet. 849 00:46:49,327 --> 00:46:51,204 [Scott] I keep going in the wrong direction. 850 00:46:51,955 --> 00:46:55,250 I start things and then stop before the great benefit can be gotten. 851 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:57,919 Many females have felt my no-follow-through. 852 00:46:59,254 --> 00:47:03,091 Do I just want to want? Is that why I get no satisfaction? 853 00:47:04,175 --> 00:47:08,137 I one time kidded with him when I'd observe him with certain women. 854 00:47:08,137 --> 00:47:11,266 I'd say, "What do you do? Treat women like condiments? Give me a break." 855 00:47:12,267 --> 00:47:14,978 [T.J.] Is he single or what? You got women in your bed? 856 00:47:16,396 --> 00:47:18,189 [Scott] Things don't compute like they used to. 857 00:47:18,690 --> 00:47:21,359 I usually feel free and secure about my plans in life, 858 00:47:22,402 --> 00:47:25,280 but now I'm beginning to feel captured. 859 00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:27,031 [T.J.] Cheers! 860 00:47:27,031 --> 00:47:30,618 [Suzanne] He showed up at the door, "Gotta talk to you." 861 00:47:31,369 --> 00:47:34,038 And as we're sitting there, he's sitting across from me 862 00:47:34,038 --> 00:47:37,041 and he just starts to cry, like tears streaming down his face. 863 00:47:37,041 --> 00:47:40,378 And he says, "Suze, I don't know what's going on." 864 00:47:40,378 --> 00:47:44,090 "But when I look in the mirror, the face looking back at me isn't my own." 865 00:47:44,090 --> 00:47:45,425 "What is that?" 866 00:47:46,509 --> 00:47:48,761 I knew at that point he was really in trouble. 867 00:47:49,387 --> 00:47:53,725 This light and dark tussle in him, he was losing the battle. 868 00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:58,730 [Steve] He started drinking more and more and more to subdue the anxieties. 869 00:47:59,272 --> 00:48:02,317 But Scott wanted one final act, 870 00:48:02,317 --> 00:48:03,985 and that was three or four banks, 871 00:48:03,985 --> 00:48:06,321 one right after the other in the same evening. 872 00:48:06,905 --> 00:48:09,699 We get 10 to 15 million dollars and we call it a day. 873 00:48:09,699 --> 00:48:12,035 I go about my business, you go about yours. 874 00:48:12,035 --> 00:48:13,453 [tense music playing] 875 00:48:13,453 --> 00:48:15,204 We had three banks figured out. 876 00:48:16,873 --> 00:48:20,043 First, you hit a small bank, go in and get out, 877 00:48:20,043 --> 00:48:21,544 and you don't care about the money. 878 00:48:21,544 --> 00:48:24,756 You just care about diverting the police to that small bank. 879 00:48:24,756 --> 00:48:26,591 Then you go back and hit a bigger bank. 880 00:48:27,091 --> 00:48:29,218 Then by the time they get there, there's a third one. 881 00:48:29,218 --> 00:48:30,678 I mean, what are they gonna do? 882 00:48:31,721 --> 00:48:34,057 We wanted to decimate the city of Seattle, 883 00:48:34,057 --> 00:48:36,768 and it was not only doable, it was winnable. 884 00:48:36,768 --> 00:48:38,853 [tense music playing] 885 00:48:39,646 --> 00:48:42,732 [Shawn] I was getting a bit frustrated during this investigation. 886 00:48:42,732 --> 00:48:45,068 We had come up with a couple of getaway vehicles and such, 887 00:48:45,068 --> 00:48:47,403 but it was getting close but not close enough. 888 00:48:48,529 --> 00:48:51,908 I got tired of waiting, just reacting to his bank robberies. 889 00:48:53,326 --> 00:48:55,662 I started digging back through the files, 890 00:48:55,662 --> 00:48:57,997 back through the MO, 891 00:48:58,498 --> 00:49:00,500 the time of day, the day of the week, 892 00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,628 location of the banks, how much money he was taking. 893 00:49:04,712 --> 00:49:06,089 I knew he had an ego. 894 00:49:06,631 --> 00:49:09,217 That's why I knew he was gonna come back at some point in time. 895 00:49:10,593 --> 00:49:12,261 I sat down and did the math, 896 00:49:13,179 --> 00:49:17,850 figured out that he was going through approximately $21,000 a month. 897 00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:20,687 So with that in mind, 898 00:49:20,687 --> 00:49:24,065 I predicted that he was going to hit one of three days 899 00:49:24,065 --> 00:49:25,650 the following year in January. 900 00:49:27,694 --> 00:49:29,195 I knew that he would be back. 901 00:49:29,195 --> 00:49:32,031 Certain locations I thought were likely targets. 902 00:49:33,032 --> 00:49:34,993 It was a waiting game for them to come back, 903 00:49:34,993 --> 00:49:37,412 and that we were in the right spot at the right time. 904 00:49:43,084 --> 00:49:45,712 [Steve] After the last big robbery, we took a year off. 905 00:49:46,796 --> 00:49:49,132 We were finally planning to take down three banks, 906 00:49:49,132 --> 00:49:50,925 but we needed another person 907 00:49:50,925 --> 00:49:54,137 because of the logistics of taking down these banks. 908 00:49:58,141 --> 00:49:59,559 [Mark] After the first bank robbery, 909 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,770 I went right to Montana and was hiding out there 910 00:50:02,770 --> 00:50:06,190 and then Scott showed up and drew me back into it. 911 00:50:07,066 --> 00:50:09,610 Scott's been going into the banks by himself, 912 00:50:09,610 --> 00:50:12,530 and he was having trouble with crowd control. 913 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:15,366 So he told me, "All you have to do is stand in the lobby." 914 00:50:15,366 --> 00:50:17,952 "Make sure nobody leaves. That's all you gotta do." 915 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,331 [Shawn] A year had passed since I made those predictions 916 00:50:22,331 --> 00:50:24,292 on three days in January that he was gonna hit. 917 00:50:24,292 --> 00:50:28,129 - [police radio chattering] - So myself and a task force member 918 00:50:28,129 --> 00:50:31,049 surveilled banks I figured were logical targets for Hollywood. 919 00:50:31,716 --> 00:50:33,968 First day, nothing happens. 920 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,388 Second day, nothing happened. 921 00:50:38,139 --> 00:50:41,225 The third day, I was out there waiting for him by myself. 922 00:50:42,268 --> 00:50:44,312 [Steve] With Mark back, we decided to hit one bank, 923 00:50:44,312 --> 00:50:46,773 just to get the feel of it, before we hit three. 924 00:50:46,773 --> 00:50:48,608 [tense music playing] 925 00:50:49,525 --> 00:50:52,987 [Mark] My second robbery was so different than the first. 926 00:50:53,488 --> 00:50:55,615 More under control, went a lot smoother. 927 00:50:55,615 --> 00:50:58,034 It was more like a job than an adventure. 928 00:50:58,034 --> 00:50:59,243 [tense music continues] 929 00:50:59,243 --> 00:51:00,703 [indistinct radio chatter] 930 00:51:04,415 --> 00:51:06,626 [Shawn] I knew immediately based on the description, 931 00:51:07,126 --> 00:51:08,419 "Oh shit, it's Hollywood." 932 00:51:09,003 --> 00:51:11,756 He's hitting another bank a mile up from where I was waiting for him. 933 00:51:11,756 --> 00:51:15,218 He came back just as I said. He came back the third day. 934 00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:20,556 I was getting closer and I felt like, "I'm just a couple of minutes behind you." 935 00:51:20,556 --> 00:51:23,434 "Not months, not weeks. Just a few minutes behind you now." 936 00:51:23,434 --> 00:51:25,228 [tires screech] 937 00:51:25,228 --> 00:51:28,606 [Shawn] I proceeded up to the bank. We had secured the scene. 938 00:51:29,315 --> 00:51:32,318 I was the first follow-up person at the scene. 939 00:51:33,069 --> 00:51:35,863 And I get to the bank and I'm looking at Shawn Johnson, 940 00:51:35,863 --> 00:51:37,907 like, "How did you get here so fast?" 941 00:51:37,907 --> 00:51:41,744 And I found out that he and FBI agents only 942 00:51:41,744 --> 00:51:45,456 were running their own surveillance looking for Hollywood. 943 00:51:45,998 --> 00:51:48,960 He cut everybody else out on the task force. 944 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,089 Other task force officers decided that what I was doing was crazy. 945 00:51:53,089 --> 00:51:55,133 "He's not gonna come back. He's not gonna be here." 946 00:51:55,842 --> 00:51:59,178 [Ellen] I remember how that kind of ramped up everybody's energy 947 00:51:59,178 --> 00:52:00,638 to work this case, 948 00:52:00,638 --> 00:52:04,058 'cause it had been some gap since his previous robbery. 949 00:52:04,058 --> 00:52:06,602 [Mike] Everybody on the task force thought at that point 950 00:52:06,602 --> 00:52:09,856 that something bad was definitely gonna happen. 951 00:52:10,356 --> 00:52:12,441 And to Ellen's credit, 952 00:52:12,441 --> 00:52:16,362 she saw that this case was spinning a little bit out of control, 953 00:52:16,362 --> 00:52:18,698 and we needed to put an end to it. 954 00:52:23,286 --> 00:52:25,121 [Ellen] Hollywood was kind of predictable 955 00:52:25,121 --> 00:52:28,082 in terms of the times of day and where he would rob. 956 00:52:28,666 --> 00:52:30,960 We hatched a plan to do surveillances, 957 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,213 hoping that one of our guys would be out on the street 958 00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:35,715 when he robbed a bank. 959 00:52:35,715 --> 00:52:39,927 We needed the Seattle Police Department. We needed their special patrol unit. 960 00:52:39,927 --> 00:52:42,054 We needed aerial resources. 961 00:52:42,054 --> 00:52:44,640 - We added extra FBI resources. - [camera clicks] 962 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,021 {\an8}To get all of that in line was an absolutely Herculean effort. 963 00:52:50,021 --> 00:52:54,275 So we made a commitment to bring all these resources together 964 00:52:54,275 --> 00:52:56,194 for an indefinite period. 965 00:52:59,405 --> 00:53:03,201 This was a time when one of the new techniques was ProNet. 966 00:53:03,201 --> 00:53:08,289 It was using these electronic tracers that were attached to money. 967 00:53:08,289 --> 00:53:10,333 They would shoot their signal to towers. 968 00:53:10,333 --> 00:53:14,212 And so then you had to have a mechanism to follow the tags. 969 00:53:14,212 --> 00:53:16,505 So we had to put 'em in a lot of police cars. 970 00:53:17,006 --> 00:53:20,301 [Shawn] I had to go back again through the robberies to date 971 00:53:20,301 --> 00:53:23,054 to find out logical targets that I would hit again 972 00:53:23,054 --> 00:53:24,931 to put devices into the banks. 973 00:53:25,765 --> 00:53:30,019 [Ellen] We put two of these electronic tracers in as many banks as we could. 974 00:53:31,604 --> 00:53:33,606 [Mike] Everything revolved around time. 975 00:53:34,106 --> 00:53:36,734 The more of these tracking devices that were in the vault, 976 00:53:36,734 --> 00:53:39,153 the more time it allowed me to get there. 977 00:53:39,153 --> 00:53:42,615 {\an8}[Al Pacino] If it's between you and some poor bastard 978 00:53:42,615 --> 00:53:44,825 {\an8}whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow, 979 00:53:46,077 --> 00:53:48,955 brother, you are going down. 980 00:53:50,248 --> 00:53:53,584 [Mark] Scott and I had watched Heat, which was a pretty intense movie. 981 00:53:53,584 --> 00:53:56,462 - [screaming] - [grunting] 982 00:53:56,462 --> 00:53:58,047 [man] Don't move! Don't fucking move. 983 00:53:58,047 --> 00:54:01,300 [Mark] The bank robbing scenes in that movie are spot-on. 984 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:05,721 And then the shootout just scared the bejesus out of us. 985 00:54:09,016 --> 00:54:11,394 I remember Scott and I looking at each other, just going, 986 00:54:11,394 --> 00:54:14,355 "Oh my goodness, what if that happened?" 987 00:54:17,733 --> 00:54:19,902 And that was the game we were playing. 988 00:54:21,028 --> 00:54:24,740 It was a real possibility, which put the fear of God into us. 989 00:54:25,783 --> 00:54:27,243 Fear of our own mortality. 990 00:54:27,868 --> 00:54:29,870 [dramatic music playing] 991 00:54:30,496 --> 00:54:32,999 Throughout my time working on this case, 992 00:54:32,999 --> 00:54:35,459 I always thought there was a great possibility 993 00:54:35,459 --> 00:54:37,003 that someone could get hurt. 994 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,382 I've been close to other bank robberies before in the FBI 995 00:54:41,382 --> 00:54:44,343 where colleagues of mine were killed 996 00:54:44,343 --> 00:54:49,140 in a major shootout in Miami in 1986. 997 00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:51,559 [reporter] In a firefight lasting over four minutes, 998 00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:56,439 two special agents of the FBI were slain and five other agents were wounded. 999 00:54:56,939 --> 00:55:00,067 We may not have known who Hollywood was, 1000 00:55:00,067 --> 00:55:03,738 but what we did know is that if we faced off with him in the street, 1001 00:55:03,738 --> 00:55:06,073 he would not go down without a fight. 1002 00:55:08,951 --> 00:55:10,953 [somber music playing] 1003 00:55:12,038 --> 00:55:14,874 [Steve] At some point in the middle of everything, 1004 00:55:14,874 --> 00:55:17,501 I had a very vivid dream. 1005 00:55:18,127 --> 00:55:20,796 I was crawling up a beach from the water 1006 00:55:20,796 --> 00:55:23,299 and a shark had just bitten both of my legs off. 1007 00:55:23,299 --> 00:55:25,384 [somber music continues] 1008 00:55:28,554 --> 00:55:30,556 [Steve] I took the dream as advice. 1009 00:55:31,182 --> 00:55:33,684 The advice was to get out of it. 1010 00:55:35,394 --> 00:55:39,398 I could sense that Scott felt that there was something looming. 1011 00:55:41,525 --> 00:55:45,112 We took hikes up in the Olympics. The Olympics were special to Scott. 1012 00:55:46,405 --> 00:55:48,407 That was our time of peace. 1013 00:55:49,325 --> 00:55:52,286 We cleared our mind of the city, of the chaos, 1014 00:55:52,286 --> 00:55:55,581 and we would go up there in nature and we'd challenge ourselves. 1015 00:55:57,124 --> 00:55:58,751 On the top of Mount Washington, 1016 00:55:58,751 --> 00:56:02,797 Scott said to me, "Listen. No matter what, let your own hand be the hand of fate, 1017 00:56:02,797 --> 00:56:05,591 and never let your enemy dictate your fate." 1018 00:56:06,634 --> 00:56:09,970 "You make sure you're in control of what you do with your life." 1019 00:56:11,389 --> 00:56:13,557 [Alban] One bank was not enough for Scott. 1020 00:56:13,557 --> 00:56:15,184 He wanted to do three banks. 1021 00:56:15,684 --> 00:56:17,228 I said, "You're nuts, man." 1022 00:56:17,895 --> 00:56:19,814 I talked to Steve and I told him, 1023 00:56:19,814 --> 00:56:23,025 "Listen, man. I think this guy is getting out of hand here." 1024 00:56:23,025 --> 00:56:26,612 "And I'm going to California and I suggest you come with me." 1025 00:56:26,612 --> 00:56:29,949 And he actually was thinking about it, 1026 00:56:29,949 --> 00:56:32,034 except he didn't want to let Scott down. 1027 00:56:33,077 --> 00:56:36,372 [Steve] With the final robbery, I knew I had to go through with it, 1028 00:56:36,372 --> 00:56:39,875 because something had to culminate. Something had to finalize itself. 1029 00:56:41,836 --> 00:56:43,879 The last time that I saw Scott, 1030 00:56:43,879 --> 00:56:45,965 I had this really bad dream. 1031 00:56:47,591 --> 00:56:50,094 The dream involved guns, a shootout. 1032 00:56:50,094 --> 00:56:52,680 It was in Seattle. People were running. 1033 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,642 And I'm telling him this dream and he got all white. 1034 00:56:57,977 --> 00:57:00,938 He took a big breath and says, "You're probably not gonna see me again." 1035 00:57:00,938 --> 00:57:03,983 "I'm probably gonna go to the Seychelle Islands." 1036 00:57:03,983 --> 00:57:06,402 And I go, "Really?" I said, "You're gonna come back, right?" 1037 00:57:06,402 --> 00:57:08,988 He goes, "I don't think you're gonna see me again." 1038 00:57:09,488 --> 00:57:11,490 [somber music continues] 1039 00:57:13,742 --> 00:57:17,455 [Scott] I walk into the night and scream at God to make his message known to me. 1040 00:57:18,914 --> 00:57:21,125 God is not responding and I sense rejection. 1041 00:57:22,334 --> 00:57:25,546 It is a time of pain and anger and resentment. 1042 00:57:26,505 --> 00:57:30,718 Where the fuck do I go from here, oh great winged white horseman in my mind? 1043 00:57:32,636 --> 00:57:34,847 This will be the last entry for a long time. 1044 00:57:34,847 --> 00:57:35,764 [music fades] 1045 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:43,939 [Steve] We prepared for years to rob these banks. 1046 00:57:44,732 --> 00:57:47,318 And about two weeks before Thanksgiving, 1047 00:57:47,318 --> 00:57:49,695 Scott said there's good news and bad news. 1048 00:57:50,279 --> 00:57:53,657 The bad news is that they now have ProNet tags in the vault money. 1049 00:57:54,575 --> 00:57:57,786 There is no way to beat the tags in time to do our original plan. 1050 00:57:58,746 --> 00:58:00,998 So we had to abandon the multiple banks scenario. 1051 00:58:00,998 --> 00:58:02,166 [tense music playing] 1052 00:58:02,166 --> 00:58:06,045 The good news is, we take this bank up on 125th Street. 1053 00:58:06,629 --> 00:58:08,547 Mustang told us that there should be 1054 00:58:08,547 --> 00:58:10,925 five to seven million dollars within the bank. 1055 00:58:11,675 --> 00:58:13,719 So our whole game plan changed. 1056 00:58:15,137 --> 00:58:18,641 But the tracers we had to figure out, and we had to figure out quickly. 1057 00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:22,269 We did a bank just to see how we had to deal with it. 1058 00:58:23,979 --> 00:58:26,524 We de-disguised Scott into a ski mask. 1059 00:58:26,524 --> 00:58:29,652 We didn't want them to think it was Hollywood taking out the tracers. 1060 00:58:30,778 --> 00:58:34,740 And I said, "Listen, just go in there. Don't even fuck around with the tellers." 1061 00:58:36,033 --> 00:58:37,618 "Go into the vault, get the money, 1062 00:58:37,618 --> 00:58:39,703 and when you come out, we'll have the tracers." 1063 00:58:40,371 --> 00:58:42,790 "Then we'll find out how they're planted in the money." 1064 00:58:44,792 --> 00:58:48,504 All of these tags were put between $20 bills, 1065 00:58:48,504 --> 00:58:50,923 because you can fan it, you can feel this lump. 1066 00:58:52,049 --> 00:58:55,803 In a very short time, we got two that we discarded out the window. 1067 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,763 And then after all of that, 1068 00:58:57,763 --> 00:59:00,766 we both felt comfortable and confident that we could actually do it. 1069 00:59:05,104 --> 00:59:07,106 [tense music playing] 1070 00:59:14,113 --> 00:59:17,741 [Shawn] I woke up the morning of Thanksgiving Eve 1996. 1071 00:59:18,242 --> 00:59:21,036 My wife says to me that morning before I leave, "This is the day." 1072 00:59:21,036 --> 00:59:23,956 "This is the day. You're catching Hollywood today." 1073 00:59:23,956 --> 00:59:27,543 And I'm thinking, "Well, yeah, I... I don't know about that." 1074 00:59:27,543 --> 00:59:29,712 [Mike] Thanksgiving week was always a short week 1075 00:59:29,712 --> 00:59:32,298 and most of the people aren't even in the office. 1076 00:59:33,632 --> 00:59:35,467 [Steve] We wake up Thanksgiving Eve. 1077 00:59:35,467 --> 00:59:38,387 We look out the windows. The rain was pounding. 1078 00:59:38,387 --> 00:59:40,848 It was gray and dark. It was beautiful. Wonderful. 1079 00:59:40,848 --> 00:59:42,308 Perfect day for what we were doing. 1080 00:59:42,308 --> 00:59:43,934 [tense music continues] 1081 00:59:43,934 --> 00:59:47,271 I'm in there cleaning, setting things up, making it perfect. 1082 00:59:48,188 --> 00:59:49,690 [Mark] We go to the makeup room 1083 00:59:49,690 --> 00:59:52,526 and we put on the prosthetic pieces and the wigs, 1084 00:59:52,526 --> 00:59:54,528 and there wasn't really a lot said. 1085 00:59:55,738 --> 00:59:59,158 [Steve] I walk into the studio. Scott has the guitar case out. 1086 00:59:59,158 --> 01:00:02,870 He has his assault rifle out. He has the shotgun out. 1087 01:00:03,537 --> 01:00:06,457 [Mark] The idea was that if a cop car came up on us, 1088 01:00:07,041 --> 01:00:10,461 we would grab the shotty, jump out, and shoot out the engine, 1089 01:00:10,461 --> 01:00:12,254 and disable the cop car. 1090 01:00:13,672 --> 01:00:14,965 [Steve] Everything was finalized. 1091 01:00:14,965 --> 01:00:17,801 We were ready to get in the van and take off for Seattle. 1092 01:00:19,094 --> 01:00:22,056 We had Mustang as a lookout on the hill. 1093 01:00:22,848 --> 01:00:23,932 It's time to do it. 1094 01:00:24,850 --> 01:00:25,768 [music fades] 1095 01:00:31,023 --> 01:00:36,612 We had been trained specifically on the Hollywood Bandit. 1096 01:00:37,237 --> 01:00:40,741 And when he walked into the Lake City branch to rob us, 1097 01:00:40,741 --> 01:00:42,785 he walked right past his wanted poster. 1098 01:00:42,785 --> 01:00:44,536 Don't panic. This is a robbery. 1099 01:00:46,538 --> 01:00:50,584 [Steve] Scott walks in first, sets the motion of getting everybody in place, 1100 01:00:50,584 --> 01:00:52,044 and then Mark comes in, 1101 01:00:52,044 --> 01:00:54,588 and he starts directing the patrons in there. 1102 01:00:55,089 --> 01:00:56,590 [Mark] You're not even afraid. 1103 01:00:56,590 --> 01:00:59,176 You've rehearsed it in your mind and you've done it before, 1104 01:00:59,176 --> 01:01:00,219 and so you do it. 1105 01:01:01,345 --> 01:01:05,057 My worst nightmare. Not one Hollywood, but two, walk through the door. 1106 01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:07,976 And shit just hit the fan. 1107 01:01:08,644 --> 01:01:12,481 So I started pulling up the bill trap, which sets off an alarm. 1108 01:01:13,607 --> 01:01:14,775 Who's the vault teller? 1109 01:01:16,485 --> 01:01:17,820 So I said, "Well, that's me." 1110 01:01:18,654 --> 01:01:20,114 So we both went back, 1111 01:01:20,114 --> 01:01:24,910 and the vault can open with a special duress combination 1112 01:01:26,620 --> 01:01:28,706 that activated another alarm. 1113 01:01:28,706 --> 01:01:30,582 [tense music playing] 1114 01:01:30,582 --> 01:01:36,964 I wanted every fucking law enforcement agency in Seattle there, 1115 01:01:36,964 --> 01:01:39,133 and there as quick as possible. 1116 01:01:39,717 --> 01:01:43,470 [Mike] The office was a ghost town. Nobody was there. Lights were out. 1117 01:01:44,138 --> 01:01:47,266 [Ellen] I'm at my desk, just trying to tie up some loose ends. 1118 01:01:47,266 --> 01:01:49,935 [Mike] We're monitoring the Seattle police radio 1119 01:01:49,935 --> 01:01:51,437 when the tones go out. 1120 01:01:51,437 --> 01:01:53,564 And you hear this beep, beep, beep. 1121 01:01:54,273 --> 01:01:56,984 They're in there for two minutes, three minutes, five minutes. 1122 01:01:56,984 --> 01:01:59,778 I don't hear anything from Mustang. Everything is cool. 1123 01:01:59,778 --> 01:02:01,405 And then finally I get the radio. 1124 01:02:01,405 --> 01:02:04,199 [dispatch] We have two suspects who entered the bank with hats on. 1125 01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:05,409 Long green coats, 1126 01:02:05,409 --> 01:02:08,871 wearing white pancake style makeup on their faces. 1127 01:02:08,871 --> 01:02:12,833 [Scott Levine] I hear someone calling in over a radio, "You've been seen." 1128 01:02:15,794 --> 01:02:17,254 - He was not calm. - Get in here. Help! 1129 01:02:17,254 --> 01:02:20,299 [Scott Levine] He was angry. He wanted in, he wanted out. 1130 01:02:20,299 --> 01:02:21,717 He meant business. 1131 01:02:21,717 --> 01:02:23,302 [Scott] Let's go, let's go, let's go! 1132 01:02:26,138 --> 01:02:28,307 [Scott Levine] I dumped the ProNet into the bag. 1133 01:02:28,307 --> 01:02:31,935 As he has a gun aimed at me, 1134 01:02:31,935 --> 01:02:35,397 I'm thinking, "Is he gonna come back and shoot me?" 1135 01:02:35,397 --> 01:02:36,565 [keys tapping] 1136 01:02:36,565 --> 01:02:38,901 Mike runs by and he says, 1137 01:02:38,901 --> 01:02:40,736 "A bank's been hit. I think it's Hollywood." 1138 01:02:40,736 --> 01:02:43,113 [Mike] We ran to the car, turn on the lights, 1139 01:02:43,113 --> 01:02:46,241 turned on the siren and took off down Second Avenue. 1140 01:02:47,075 --> 01:02:48,827 [Shawn] I leave my office about five o'clock, 1141 01:02:48,827 --> 01:02:50,162 thinking the day's over with. 1142 01:02:50,662 --> 01:02:53,457 I walk into the kitchen of my house, my pager goes off. 1143 01:02:53,457 --> 01:02:55,542 I looked down. It was Hollywood. 1144 01:02:56,794 --> 01:03:00,339 [Mark] Scott was in the vault for a little too long, I thought. 1145 01:03:00,339 --> 01:03:02,841 But then here he comes bounding out of that area, 1146 01:03:03,425 --> 01:03:06,678 and he had this great big duffle bag, which I took immediately. 1147 01:03:07,930 --> 01:03:11,308 I'm grabbing the 1,080,000 in this duffle bag. 1148 01:03:11,308 --> 01:03:12,476 [tense music playing] 1149 01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:17,898 - [sirens wailing] - By this point, we can hear the sirens. 1150 01:03:18,565 --> 01:03:22,361 And that's when we noticed that there were cops everywhere. 1151 01:03:22,361 --> 01:03:23,779 Thick as flies. 1152 01:03:24,321 --> 01:03:26,073 [sirens continue wailing] 1153 01:03:26,073 --> 01:03:28,909 [Steve] Scott yells, "Steve, maybe we should just abort right now." 1154 01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:30,035 "Let's just quit." 1155 01:03:30,035 --> 01:03:31,912 I say, "What the fuck are you talking about?" 1156 01:03:31,912 --> 01:03:34,623 "Let's go! Get this shit done. Get these tracers out." 1157 01:03:34,623 --> 01:03:36,875 I was driving that fucking car like it was stolen. 1158 01:03:36,875 --> 01:03:40,838 We were getting updates constantly from the chief dispatcher. 1159 01:03:40,838 --> 01:03:42,923 Two suspects armed with handguns, 1160 01:03:43,465 --> 01:03:46,468 but I'm trying to focus on the tracking devices that left the bank. 1161 01:03:46,468 --> 01:03:48,971 [Mike] Do we have any signs going at all at this time? 1162 01:03:49,471 --> 01:03:51,682 [dispatch] Wedgwood and Lake City are both hot. 1163 01:03:52,182 --> 01:03:53,934 [Shawn] I'm following this tracking device. 1164 01:03:53,934 --> 01:03:55,727 It's hitting different areas of the city, 1165 01:03:55,727 --> 01:03:58,105 different antennas, hot and cold, hot and cold. 1166 01:03:58,105 --> 01:03:59,940 I'm trying to follow that signal. 1167 01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:01,859 Finally Scott yelled out, "I got one!" 1168 01:04:01,859 --> 01:04:03,402 He gave me two $20 bills 1169 01:04:03,402 --> 01:04:05,529 that were glued together with the ProNet tag, 1170 01:04:05,529 --> 01:04:08,115 and I threw it out the window and kept going down the street. 1171 01:04:08,115 --> 01:04:10,492 [Mike] An officer pops up on the radio and says, 1172 01:04:10,492 --> 01:04:13,161 "I'm starting to get a real strong indication here." 1173 01:04:13,161 --> 01:04:14,454 I roll up on the scene 1174 01:04:14,454 --> 01:04:18,208 and found on the street the tracking device discarded. 1175 01:04:18,208 --> 01:04:20,502 And immediately, I said, "Oh, shit." 1176 01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:24,339 But I knew there's one more tracking unit still out there. 1177 01:04:25,215 --> 01:04:28,635 They were back there working. I said, "Biggins, straighten your mind up." 1178 01:04:28,635 --> 01:04:31,555 "Get the fucking shit going. Don't be afraid. Just get it done." 1179 01:04:32,472 --> 01:04:36,602 [Mark] It was such a panic with all the police out buzzing around. 1180 01:04:36,602 --> 01:04:38,604 We knew that they were hunting us. 1181 01:04:38,604 --> 01:04:42,524 We had taken $1,080,000 out of the bank 1182 01:04:42,524 --> 01:04:46,069 and it was too difficult to find the tracking devices. 1183 01:04:47,070 --> 01:04:49,323 [sirens wailing] 1184 01:04:49,323 --> 01:04:54,244 All of a sudden my display lights up and goes, "Poof!" It's game day. Showtime. 1185 01:04:54,244 --> 01:04:56,330 [dramatic music playing] 1186 01:04:58,206 --> 01:05:01,209 [Steve] Scott said, "Pull over. I want to drive. I know better where...' 1187 01:05:01,209 --> 01:05:03,921 I said, "I know where I'm going. Just do what you gotta do." 1188 01:05:03,921 --> 01:05:04,922 And he was stubborn. 1189 01:05:04,922 --> 01:05:06,089 [Scott] Get over here! 1190 01:05:06,089 --> 01:05:09,301 [Steve] And I finally said, "Okay," and I looked behind my driver's seat, 1191 01:05:09,301 --> 01:05:11,136 and there was this pile of money. 1192 01:05:11,136 --> 01:05:13,847 And they didn't have any order to what they were doing, 1193 01:05:13,847 --> 01:05:16,683 and I go, "Oh my God. Oh my fucking God." 1194 01:05:17,643 --> 01:05:19,811 [Scott] Just drive! What are you doing? Let's go! 1195 01:05:19,811 --> 01:05:21,855 I'm still a ways back. I need to get there. 1196 01:05:21,855 --> 01:05:23,357 It's my case. I need to be there. 1197 01:05:24,399 --> 01:05:26,568 [Mike] I'm listening to the tone and it's going, "Eeee." 1198 01:05:26,568 --> 01:05:28,195 And I'm following the display 1199 01:05:28,195 --> 01:05:30,572 and it's guiding me in towards this white van. 1200 01:05:31,365 --> 01:05:33,241 And I shut off all my lights 1201 01:05:33,241 --> 01:05:34,868 and I'm just following the display 1202 01:05:34,868 --> 01:05:37,412 right towards the rear end of this Chevy van. 1203 01:05:38,997 --> 01:05:42,209 I could see there was condensation on the back windows. 1204 01:05:42,793 --> 01:05:45,754 [Ellen] And we could see lights through the back window. 1205 01:05:45,754 --> 01:05:47,047 It looked very odd. 1206 01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:50,258 So we knew they were scouring through the money. 1207 01:05:51,301 --> 01:05:53,845 I said, "Radio, we're gonna be doing a felony car stop." 1208 01:05:53,845 --> 01:05:55,931 [Mike] We're gonna have to do a felony stop here. 1209 01:05:55,931 --> 01:05:57,349 I'd like to have more units. 1210 01:05:58,141 --> 01:06:01,144 [Steve] And so Scott, as he pulls up, we're on a little knoll, 1211 01:06:01,144 --> 01:06:03,480 he pulled up to the street to turn left. 1212 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,857 And as he turned left, I saw the cop cars. 1213 01:06:05,857 --> 01:06:07,317 Three cop cars behind us. 1214 01:06:08,151 --> 01:06:11,363 [Mike] The van coasted to a stop against the curb. 1215 01:06:11,363 --> 01:06:15,909 As I was getting out of the car and drawing my pistol and going on target, 1216 01:06:16,952 --> 01:06:21,832 I realized that the suspect was already out of the van. 1217 01:06:21,832 --> 01:06:24,918 The police have always said we shot first. It didn't happen that way. 1218 01:06:24,918 --> 01:06:27,671 They were the ones that ambushed us and began shooting at us. 1219 01:06:27,671 --> 01:06:30,882 Meyers' mouth is moving again, so he's obviously lying. 1220 01:06:30,882 --> 01:06:33,010 Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. 1221 01:06:34,261 --> 01:06:39,016 I could see, along the driver's side door, a silhouette, 1222 01:06:39,641 --> 01:06:42,519 and it was dark, but I could see they had a rifle. 1223 01:06:43,353 --> 01:06:46,982 And I saw the rifle come down on me. 1224 01:06:46,982 --> 01:06:48,066 [Ellen] I didn't see it. 1225 01:06:48,066 --> 01:06:50,861 I... I could only see through the front windshield. 1226 01:06:50,861 --> 01:06:53,697 So I never saw anybody get out of the van. 1227 01:06:55,699 --> 01:06:58,785 [Steve] The reason for those guns wasn't to have a shootout with the cops. 1228 01:06:58,785 --> 01:07:00,162 It was to disarm the vehicle. 1229 01:07:00,954 --> 01:07:03,665 No. That rifle was pointed right at me. 1230 01:07:03,665 --> 01:07:06,251 Everything that I was taught was kicking in. 1231 01:07:06,835 --> 01:07:09,129 He went down to take aim at me, 1232 01:07:09,129 --> 01:07:10,797 and I thought, "Oh, shit." 1233 01:07:10,797 --> 01:07:13,425 And for some reason the rifle was not firing. 1234 01:07:13,425 --> 01:07:16,219 And then, "click, click, click." Three clicks. 1235 01:07:16,219 --> 01:07:17,846 I go, "Oh my God." 1236 01:07:18,847 --> 01:07:22,059 Suddenly the cops started shooting into the back of the van. 1237 01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:25,937 I could tell my rounds were going through the back door. 1238 01:07:25,937 --> 01:07:30,525 [Mark] All I remember is getting hit by a bullet, and getting knocked over. 1239 01:07:30,525 --> 01:07:33,737 Suddenly, my left arm just starts flying in front of my face. 1240 01:07:33,737 --> 01:07:37,157 "They fucking shot my arm off! They fucking shot my arm off!" 1241 01:07:37,157 --> 01:07:38,075 I'm screaming. 1242 01:07:38,075 --> 01:07:41,703 And then a little bit further up, Scott stops again and gets a shotgun. 1243 01:07:42,287 --> 01:07:46,041 When we get to that second location, a firefight really ensues. 1244 01:07:46,041 --> 01:07:50,545 As I was getting out of the car to draw down on the van again, 1245 01:07:50,545 --> 01:07:52,589 I heard three of the loudest booms. 1246 01:07:52,589 --> 01:07:54,674 [gunshots] 1247 01:07:54,674 --> 01:07:57,803 [Ellen] There are bullets whizzing by my head. 1248 01:07:57,803 --> 01:08:00,222 All I could see was glass breaking. 1249 01:08:00,222 --> 01:08:05,894 I didn't have my body armor, and I am in the middle of a shitstorm. 1250 01:08:06,645 --> 01:08:09,648 I'm trying to communicate with the FBI office. 1251 01:08:09,648 --> 01:08:11,775 I'm telling 'em, "Shots fired." 1252 01:08:13,401 --> 01:08:15,070 [Mike] The van takes off again. 1253 01:08:15,070 --> 01:08:17,489 [Steve] My left arm is just floating in the air. 1254 01:08:17,489 --> 01:08:19,574 Biggins is shot in the abdomen. 1255 01:08:19,574 --> 01:08:20,575 Blood everywhere. 1256 01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:23,870 And then suddenly the van comes to a thud. Boom. 1257 01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:25,080 [van crashes] 1258 01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:30,127 As I lay in the back of the van, Scott runs off. 1259 01:08:30,127 --> 01:08:32,504 I'm thinking, "This is what we always spoke about." 1260 01:08:32,504 --> 01:08:34,548 We were all in this on our own. 1261 01:08:35,257 --> 01:08:37,509 [Mike] As I was running towards the vehicle, 1262 01:08:37,509 --> 01:08:41,763 I'm seeing a silhouette of a body running south in an alley. 1263 01:08:43,223 --> 01:08:45,600 [Steve] The wipers were going, it was still in gear, 1264 01:08:46,101 --> 01:08:47,853 and Biggins is not saying a word, 1265 01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:50,188 so I don't know if he's alive or if he's dead. 1266 01:08:50,772 --> 01:08:51,731 And Scott's gone 1267 01:08:51,731 --> 01:08:54,151 and all I could hear were all the cops yelling, 1268 01:08:54,151 --> 01:08:55,735 "He's gone. He's running over there." 1269 01:08:55,735 --> 01:08:58,071 "Shoot that motherfucker! Kill him! Kill him!" 1270 01:08:59,447 --> 01:09:01,283 I went to the alley and I... I stopped. 1271 01:09:01,283 --> 01:09:04,828 I thought, "Don't go down this alley. This is what we call the Fatal Funnel. 1272 01:09:05,954 --> 01:09:08,915 At that point I realized I should back off and go back to the van 1273 01:09:08,915 --> 01:09:11,877 where other officers had two suspects down. 1274 01:09:12,502 --> 01:09:14,963 And I saw this white male down on the ground handcuffed. 1275 01:09:14,963 --> 01:09:16,923 I said, "Who are you? Are you Hollywood?" 1276 01:09:16,923 --> 01:09:19,426 And he says, "No. He ran down the alley." 1277 01:09:19,426 --> 01:09:22,179 I said, "Shoot me, son of a bitch. You were doing it a minute ago." 1278 01:09:22,179 --> 01:09:24,055 "Just shoot me. Kill me, get it over with." 1279 01:09:24,556 --> 01:09:28,101 He said, "Don't worry about it. The courts will take care of your ass." 1280 01:09:28,101 --> 01:09:31,479 When he told me to shoot him, I said, "No. You're not getting out of this one." 1281 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,981 "We beat you at your game." 1282 01:09:35,066 --> 01:09:36,610 [Steve] I didn't want to go to prison. 1283 01:09:36,610 --> 01:09:40,488 I mean, at that point nothing mattered. Life was over as far as I was concerned. 1284 01:09:41,406 --> 01:09:44,367 And suddenly, the fear and the pain and all that goes away, 1285 01:09:44,367 --> 01:09:47,245 and I looked in the van and I saw this pile of money 1286 01:09:47,245 --> 01:09:49,623 and all the bullet holes that the cops put in the van 1287 01:09:49,623 --> 01:09:51,708 were like laser beams of light. 1288 01:09:53,126 --> 01:09:56,588 And suddenly, this beautiful divine music came into my head. 1289 01:09:56,588 --> 01:09:58,798 I'd never heard earthly music like it. 1290 01:10:00,217 --> 01:10:03,637 And the money became almost like this talisman of... 1291 01:10:04,346 --> 01:10:07,891 "What is it? It's a bunch of paper. Who gives a shit?" 1292 01:10:07,891 --> 01:10:09,768 "Who does what people do 1293 01:10:09,768 --> 01:10:13,313 for this stupid stuff that has no meaning, really?" 1294 01:10:13,313 --> 01:10:15,398 [ethereal music playing] 1295 01:10:19,527 --> 01:10:22,113 [Mike] The Fire Department was at the scene treating Biggins, 1296 01:10:22,113 --> 01:10:24,908 and he was motionless like he was dead on the ground. 1297 01:10:25,825 --> 01:10:28,954 As I was looking at him, the firefighter looked up at me and he went... 1298 01:10:29,454 --> 01:10:33,333 He gave me a thumbs down. I thought, "Oh, shit. I just killed somebody." 1299 01:10:33,875 --> 01:10:38,088 I took a deep breath and I said to myself, "This is something I never thought about." 1300 01:10:39,130 --> 01:10:43,551 I'd been in one previous shooting, but I was not in a shooting like this. 1301 01:10:43,551 --> 01:10:44,803 This was a shootout. 1302 01:10:47,264 --> 01:10:50,475 [Mark] Outside of the van, I was in and out of consciousness. 1303 01:10:51,518 --> 01:10:54,688 I remember Mike Magan opening one of my eyelids, 1304 01:10:54,688 --> 01:10:57,065 checking to see if I was living or dead. 1305 01:10:57,691 --> 01:11:02,237 I remembered having a sense of relief that it's finally over. 1306 01:11:02,779 --> 01:11:07,409 I can let it go now. I don't have to live like this anymore. 1307 01:11:10,370 --> 01:11:13,123 [reporter 1] The two men who were shot were taken into custody 1308 01:11:13,123 --> 01:11:14,874 and then taken to the hospital. 1309 01:11:14,874 --> 01:11:16,668 One man remains at large. 1310 01:11:16,668 --> 01:11:19,504 [reporter 2] Dozens of officers, FBI agents, K-9 units, 1311 01:11:19,504 --> 01:11:22,507 even the SWAT team were called in to look for the fugitive. 1312 01:11:22,507 --> 01:11:26,094 Especially if somebody's still on the loose, that's a scary thing. 1313 01:11:26,094 --> 01:11:27,429 They could be anywhere. 1314 01:11:29,431 --> 01:11:32,934 [Shawn] I follow the ambulance down to Harborview Hospital. 1315 01:11:33,768 --> 01:11:36,229 I would deal with the crime scene later. I need to talk to Steve 1316 01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:39,107 and find out who else we were looking for that night. 1317 01:11:39,107 --> 01:11:42,360 This is it. I'm not putting up with this anymore. This has gotta be the closure. 1318 01:11:44,446 --> 01:11:46,573 [Steve] In the waiting room in the hospital, 1319 01:11:46,573 --> 01:11:49,367 Shawn Johnson asked me questions. 1320 01:11:49,367 --> 01:11:53,330 And if you can imagine me being shot up and I'm in a situation, here we are, 1321 01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:55,749 Scott's on the loose, I don't know if he's dead or alive, 1322 01:11:57,042 --> 01:11:58,251 Biggins might die. 1323 01:11:59,169 --> 01:12:00,628 Your mind is not clear. 1324 01:12:01,629 --> 01:12:03,965 So I'm trying to protect myself. 1325 01:12:05,258 --> 01:12:07,427 After two hours, Steve Meyers finally tells me 1326 01:12:07,427 --> 01:12:10,347 that the person I'm looking for is Scott Scurlock. 1327 01:12:10,972 --> 01:12:12,640 He said Scott Scurlock is Hollywood. 1328 01:12:13,892 --> 01:12:15,477 [dispatch] Seattle Police and Fire 19. 1329 01:12:15,477 --> 01:12:18,688 [man] Yeah, I know they're doing a search in our neighborhood. 1330 01:12:18,688 --> 01:12:21,358 - [dispatch] Yeah. - [man] Somebody just pounded on our door. 1331 01:12:21,358 --> 01:12:23,485 [woman 1] There is a canoe with a tarp over it. 1332 01:12:23,485 --> 01:12:24,402 [dispatch] Uh-huh. 1333 01:12:24,402 --> 01:12:26,613 [woman 1] I don't know if anybody should check it. 1334 01:12:26,613 --> 01:12:29,908 [woman 2] I didn't see anybody, but I'm thinking that, um, under my deck 1335 01:12:29,908 --> 01:12:31,368 would be a good hiding place. 1336 01:12:31,868 --> 01:12:35,163 I keep hearing that the officers are going door-to-door 1337 01:12:35,163 --> 01:12:37,499 throughout the night and throughout the day, 1338 01:12:37,499 --> 01:12:39,292 trying to find some lead. 1339 01:12:39,292 --> 01:12:40,418 Nothing is turning up. 1340 01:12:40,418 --> 01:12:44,547 [woman 3] I'm just wondering, in my area there's police all over and helicopters... 1341 01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,591 [dispatch] Right, you need to stay inside, ma'am, 1342 01:12:46,591 --> 01:12:50,136 and, uh, try not to tie up the emergency lines with calls. 1343 01:12:50,136 --> 01:12:52,263 When I learned that Hollywood had escaped, 1344 01:12:52,263 --> 01:12:56,101 I was angered because so much work had gone in to try to apprehend him. 1345 01:12:56,101 --> 01:12:59,729 The only word that kept coming to my mind is, "Fuck. Really?" 1346 01:12:59,729 --> 01:13:03,400 Hollywood was right there. How did he get away? 1347 01:13:04,776 --> 01:13:06,778 [suspenseful music playing] 1348 01:13:09,656 --> 01:13:13,785 [Mike] For the next several hours, I was walking around with nervous energy 1349 01:13:13,785 --> 01:13:15,286 when my pager went off. 1350 01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:20,041 [man] I think that bank robber might be hiding in my camper in the backyard. 1351 01:13:20,041 --> 01:13:21,751 [dispatch] And what makes you think that? 1352 01:13:21,751 --> 01:13:24,129 [man] I saw somebody's in there and it's all locked up 1353 01:13:24,129 --> 01:13:26,131 and nobody's supposed to be in there. 1354 01:13:26,131 --> 01:13:29,551 It was my old partner and he said to me, 1355 01:13:29,551 --> 01:13:33,430 "They have your suspect cornered right near the shooting scene." 1356 01:13:34,013 --> 01:13:36,015 [dispatch] Could you tell if it was male or female? 1357 01:13:36,015 --> 01:13:37,642 [man] No, I just saw some dark hair. 1358 01:13:38,226 --> 01:13:41,312 - [dispatch] Okay. How long ago? - [man] I just came in, right now. 1359 01:13:43,690 --> 01:13:46,109 [Mike] The officers are dispatched to the camper. 1360 01:13:46,734 --> 01:13:49,070 They're pounding on the camper, trying to see who's inside. 1361 01:13:49,070 --> 01:13:51,781 So they bust the window and spray in pepper spray. 1362 01:13:52,365 --> 01:13:54,659 And a moment later they hear a single gunshot. 1363 01:13:54,659 --> 01:13:55,577 [gunshot] 1364 01:13:55,577 --> 01:13:58,121 [Mike] The officers fire back into the camper. 1365 01:13:58,121 --> 01:14:05,170 - [gunshots] - [smashing glass] 1366 01:14:06,296 --> 01:14:09,841 I was told that 76 rounds had been fired into the camper 1367 01:14:09,841 --> 01:14:11,843 by officers who were at the scene. 1368 01:14:14,512 --> 01:14:15,597 {\an8}[David] Good evening. 1369 01:14:15,597 --> 01:14:18,016 {\an8}Thanksgiving has been interrupted for dozens of families. 1370 01:14:18,016 --> 01:14:19,225 It's a police standoff, 1371 01:14:19,225 --> 01:14:22,437 and the suspect may be the bank robber known as Hollywood. 1372 01:14:22,437 --> 01:14:24,481 [reporter] Right now, Hollywood the bank robber, 1373 01:14:24,481 --> 01:14:27,484 one of the luckiest, most prolific in the country, 1374 01:14:27,484 --> 01:14:29,235 looks like his luck has run out. 1375 01:14:30,153 --> 01:14:32,071 [tense music playing] 1376 01:14:32,906 --> 01:14:34,073 [Mike] As I was arriving, 1377 01:14:34,073 --> 01:14:36,493 Seattle police was getting there simultaneously 1378 01:14:36,493 --> 01:14:39,412 with their armored vehicles and setting up a command post. 1379 01:14:39,913 --> 01:14:42,624 [Shawn] We had helicopters. We had armored vehicles. 1380 01:14:43,291 --> 01:14:46,836 There were probably a couple of hundred law enforcement officers there that day. 1381 01:14:46,836 --> 01:14:48,755 I'd never seen such a huge response. 1382 01:14:48,755 --> 01:14:50,173 This is Thanksgiving Day. 1383 01:14:50,173 --> 01:14:53,468 The whole city is at home with their families 1384 01:14:53,468 --> 01:14:56,429 and able to watch what's happening on TV. 1385 01:14:57,347 --> 01:14:59,557 Not only does the entire neighborhood come out, 1386 01:14:59,557 --> 01:15:01,893 but if you live near that neighborhood, you come out. 1387 01:15:02,393 --> 01:15:04,562 People come to see what is happening, 1388 01:15:04,562 --> 01:15:07,232 especially when something that's almost like a movie 1389 01:15:07,232 --> 01:15:08,942 is so close to their homes. 1390 01:15:08,942 --> 01:15:12,445 [David] I mean, a quiet North Seattle neighborhood, 1391 01:15:12,445 --> 01:15:16,324 and you have hundreds of police, the SWAT team. 1392 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,035 All this happening on Thanksgiving. 1393 01:15:19,035 --> 01:15:21,162 A Thanksgiving that nobody's going to forget. 1394 01:15:21,871 --> 01:15:24,123 Our last of our guests were leaving 1395 01:15:24,123 --> 01:15:27,418 and I got a call from my Aunt Helen who lives in Seattle, 1396 01:15:27,418 --> 01:15:29,629 and she was hysterical. 1397 01:15:29,629 --> 01:15:30,755 [reporter] Our top story... 1398 01:15:30,755 --> 01:15:34,217 [Suzanne] It was all over the Seattle news that there was this police shootout 1399 01:15:34,217 --> 01:15:36,844 with this bandit named Scott Scurlock, 1400 01:15:36,844 --> 01:15:40,306 and there's a SWAT team around this little trailer 1401 01:15:40,306 --> 01:15:42,308 in this lady's backyard. 1402 01:15:42,308 --> 01:15:46,980 And then I, at that point, sat down 1403 01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:50,984 and just said... [exhales] "Whoa. Whoa." 1404 01:15:50,984 --> 01:15:52,652 It was just so mind-blowing 1405 01:15:53,361 --> 01:15:57,615 to find out that he's been robbing banks for five years. 1406 01:15:58,533 --> 01:16:00,201 {\an8}[reporter 1] People are out of their homes, 1407 01:16:00,201 --> 01:16:03,663 {\an8}their Thanksgiving disrupted by this, uh, police manhunt 1408 01:16:03,663 --> 01:16:05,206 {\an8}that has been going on now 1409 01:16:05,206 --> 01:16:07,500 {\an8}for more than 24 hours in this neighborhood. 1410 01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:10,628 {\an8}[reporter 2] Police and FBI agents have been in standoff mode, 1411 01:16:10,628 --> 01:16:13,131 {\an8}guns drawn, and negotiators in place. 1412 01:16:13,131 --> 01:16:15,258 [David] The standoff is still underway. 1413 01:16:15,258 --> 01:16:17,468 We know that shots have been fired. 1414 01:16:17,468 --> 01:16:20,888 They've been banging on the door. They've tried to contact him. They can't. 1415 01:16:22,265 --> 01:16:24,684 They wanted this to end in the way they wanted it to end. 1416 01:16:24,684 --> 01:16:26,185 They weren't gonna take any chances. 1417 01:16:28,104 --> 01:16:32,567 {\an8}[Shawn] And after two hours of no response we decided to make entry into the camper. 1418 01:16:32,567 --> 01:16:34,652 [tense music playing] 1419 01:16:36,946 --> 01:16:39,032 [Shawn] I walk in with the Tactical Team. 1420 01:16:40,116 --> 01:16:41,993 We found a body underneath the table. 1421 01:16:43,578 --> 01:16:45,913 I had a picture with me. I look down. 1422 01:16:45,913 --> 01:16:47,999 [tense music continues] 1423 01:16:49,208 --> 01:16:50,043 Scott. 1424 01:16:51,002 --> 01:16:53,630 At that point, I knew that it was... We had him. 1425 01:16:54,255 --> 01:16:56,758 And turned out that he had killed himself. 1426 01:16:56,758 --> 01:16:59,969 That first shot the officers heard was him killing himself. 1427 01:17:05,391 --> 01:17:06,517 [reporter] Good evening. 1428 01:17:06,517 --> 01:17:10,021 {\an8}A suspected bank robber who died yesterday during a standoff with police 1429 01:17:10,021 --> 01:17:11,898 apparently killed himself. 1430 01:17:11,898 --> 01:17:14,067 {\an8}[David] Scott Scurlock, who police dubbed Hollywood, 1431 01:17:14,067 --> 01:17:15,943 {\an8}was found dead in a camper last night... 1432 01:17:15,943 --> 01:17:19,113 {\an8}[Steve] I woke up the next morning in the hospital and the TV was going 1433 01:17:19,113 --> 01:17:23,701 and the news was carpeted with us, 1434 01:17:23,701 --> 01:17:28,998 and my name and Scott Scurlock from Olympia, Washington, deceased. 1435 01:17:29,791 --> 01:17:31,292 A self-inflicted wound. 1436 01:17:32,710 --> 01:17:35,088 And, uh, I kind of looked and I just go... 1437 01:17:37,256 --> 01:17:39,175 "Thank God," you know. I just said, "Thank God." 1438 01:17:41,636 --> 01:17:43,262 The shootout was the end. 1439 01:17:43,888 --> 01:17:48,142 Not only the end of our endeavors, but the end of a certain life that I had. 1440 01:17:50,895 --> 01:17:53,189 We were like two comets that came together 1441 01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:57,610 and we met up and we started flying through the fucking universe 1442 01:17:57,610 --> 01:18:00,905 and suddenly, boom! It's all busted up in one second. 1443 01:18:00,905 --> 01:18:02,031 It's gone. 1444 01:18:06,244 --> 01:18:09,956 [Ellen] I feel like this episode tested me in every possible way. 1445 01:18:11,582 --> 01:18:14,419 I was thinking about my kids when the shooting started, 1446 01:18:15,086 --> 01:18:17,797 and wondering, you know, am I doing the right thing 1447 01:18:17,797 --> 01:18:20,800 by doing this job when there's a lot of other jobs 1448 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,510 I could be doing in the FBI? 1449 01:18:22,510 --> 01:18:24,595 [somber music playing] 1450 01:18:25,513 --> 01:18:28,808 [Mike] A day doesn't go by where you don't think about it. 1451 01:18:30,143 --> 01:18:34,647 My only question to him would probably be, "Why did you take your life?" 1452 01:18:36,107 --> 01:18:37,525 And I'll quote Mark Twain, 1453 01:18:37,525 --> 01:18:41,154 and Mark Twain said that he would never wish death upon a man, 1454 01:18:41,154 --> 01:18:43,698 but he's read some obituaries with great pleasure. 1455 01:18:46,325 --> 01:18:48,745 [Shawn] The major regret I have in this investigation 1456 01:18:48,745 --> 01:18:51,581 is the fact I never got to sit down with Scott 1457 01:18:51,581 --> 01:18:54,667 and talk to him face-to-face, man-to-man. 1458 01:18:56,711 --> 01:18:59,922 If I had been in the vehicle that night, in front of that pursuit line, 1459 01:18:59,922 --> 01:19:02,759 would I have done what Mike did, shoot into the back of that van? No. 1460 01:19:02,759 --> 01:19:06,971 There's always another day to catch him. Seriously, there's always another day. 1461 01:19:06,971 --> 01:19:09,390 [somber music continues] 1462 01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:10,475 [camera clicking] 1463 01:19:13,227 --> 01:19:15,438 [Suzanne] It was heartbreaking for the whole family. 1464 01:19:15,438 --> 01:19:18,149 It was almost like a... like a double whammy of... of, 1465 01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:22,236 "Whoa. He was doing what? He ended up here?" 1466 01:19:23,613 --> 01:19:28,159 My father adored Scott and was heartbroken. 1467 01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:31,788 Not only that we lost him. We also lost who we thought he was. 1468 01:19:32,497 --> 01:19:34,665 [Scott's father] I miss being able to love him. 1469 01:19:35,249 --> 01:19:37,710 I miss being loved by him. 1470 01:19:38,753 --> 01:19:41,255 And he really genuinely loved me. 1471 01:19:41,255 --> 01:19:43,508 I don't think there's any question about that at all. 1472 01:19:43,508 --> 01:19:46,677 And I loved him dearly. No matter what he was like. 1473 01:19:47,178 --> 01:19:50,181 The number of secrets he had about the life he had been leading 1474 01:19:50,181 --> 01:19:51,599 were so huge 1475 01:19:52,433 --> 01:19:57,563 that if he had walked out of that trailer, put his hands in the air, and surrendered, 1476 01:19:58,064 --> 01:20:01,442 he would have had to have faced his entire world. 1477 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,364 And I honestly believe that the last decade of his life, 1478 01:20:06,989 --> 01:20:11,369 he was making choices that he knew were gonna come down to a dead end. 1479 01:20:14,121 --> 01:20:15,790 [Steven] I received a call. 1480 01:20:16,415 --> 01:20:18,918 "Scotty's died. He died in a bank robbery." 1481 01:20:19,418 --> 01:20:22,171 My mind immediately went into, 1482 01:20:22,171 --> 01:20:25,341 "He was trying to stop the bank robbery. He was being the hero." 1483 01:20:25,341 --> 01:20:28,886 {\an8}And so I asked the question. "Well, how did he die in the bank robbery?" 1484 01:20:28,886 --> 01:20:32,014 {\an8}And the answer came back that he was the bank robber. 1485 01:20:32,682 --> 01:20:35,268 It felt like my heart and my brain exploded. 1486 01:20:35,268 --> 01:20:39,605 [Steve] When I was in prison, Mustang visited me four or five times. 1487 01:20:39,605 --> 01:20:43,067 She would always come on the anniversary, the day before Thanksgiving. 1488 01:20:43,067 --> 01:20:44,735 She'd always think of Scott. 1489 01:20:45,945 --> 01:20:49,407 And I got a letter from her sister, said that she'd committed suicide. 1490 01:20:50,199 --> 01:20:53,661 She just couldn't bear the fact that all that she'd been involved with 1491 01:20:53,661 --> 01:20:55,997 over the years with Scott and me, 1492 01:20:55,997 --> 01:20:59,834 and that suddenly he's dead and I'm in prison for all these years, 1493 01:20:59,834 --> 01:21:02,211 and that she is walking free. 1494 01:21:02,211 --> 01:21:05,006 It's like, she's not walking free in her own soul. 1495 01:21:05,006 --> 01:21:07,466 I don't think she believed she was walking free. 1496 01:21:08,593 --> 01:21:11,220 {\an8}[T.J.] Steve Meyers, who used to go to Shakespeare plays 1497 01:21:11,220 --> 01:21:12,597 {\an8}with my husband and I. 1498 01:21:13,264 --> 01:21:14,599 {\an8}He's going to prison. 1499 01:21:14,599 --> 01:21:16,267 We have Mark Biggins. 1500 01:21:16,809 --> 01:21:19,896 Sensitive guy. Poet, guitar player. 1501 01:21:20,563 --> 01:21:23,357 He's going to prison. Blows my mind. 1502 01:21:24,150 --> 01:21:26,819 People always say, "Oh, you knew the guy in the Treehouse?" 1503 01:21:26,819 --> 01:21:30,406 "You knew Hollywood?" I'd go, "Hey, I didn't know Hollywood." 1504 01:21:30,406 --> 01:21:31,949 "I knew Scott Scurlock." 1505 01:21:34,911 --> 01:21:37,496 [Mark] Scott and I had several discussions about, 1506 01:21:37,496 --> 01:21:39,665 "What are you gonna do if we get caught?" 1507 01:21:41,167 --> 01:21:43,586 And he would always, always say, 1508 01:21:43,586 --> 01:21:47,173 "I'm not going to prison. I'm gonna head for the white light." 1509 01:21:49,634 --> 01:21:51,636 I've read the victim impact statements 1510 01:21:51,636 --> 01:21:57,516 and some bank tellers and some customers in the bank were... were truly traumatized 1511 01:21:57,516 --> 01:22:02,939 by the... the whole experience, and that I regret sincerely. 1512 01:22:02,939 --> 01:22:05,024 [somber music continues] 1513 01:22:07,443 --> 01:22:10,071 [T.J.] Scott had a T-shirt that said "Live Free or Die." 1514 01:22:10,571 --> 01:22:14,033 And I think he spent a lot of years figuring out how to live free. 1515 01:22:15,326 --> 01:22:16,327 But in the end, 1516 01:22:18,079 --> 01:22:20,623 he died and he wasn't free. 1517 01:22:25,628 --> 01:22:26,837 [Steve] After his death, 1518 01:22:27,338 --> 01:22:29,882 the Treehouse died within a year, a year and a half. 1519 01:22:29,882 --> 01:22:31,300 It crumbled and fell. 1520 01:22:31,801 --> 01:22:36,389 I mean, this tree house and Scott were one soul, inseparable. 1521 01:22:37,098 --> 01:22:38,975 And Scott's death was its death. 1522 01:22:41,018 --> 01:22:42,520 And it had to be that way. 1523 01:22:45,648 --> 01:22:49,318 [Mark] After being released from prison, I went back to the Treehouse. 1524 01:22:50,236 --> 01:22:51,696 It looked like a shipwreck. 1525 01:22:52,196 --> 01:22:54,740 It was just a pile of timber. 1526 01:22:55,491 --> 01:23:00,162 And I took some of Scott's ashes and spread them and said goodbye, finally. 1527 01:23:03,541 --> 01:23:05,501 [Scott] I have just finished reading my whole diary 1528 01:23:05,501 --> 01:23:07,503 and it seems like a thing of the past. 1529 01:23:09,213 --> 01:23:11,340 I feel like a completely different person. 1530 01:23:12,883 --> 01:23:14,343 So many things have happened to me 1531 01:23:14,343 --> 01:23:16,637 that there's no way I could write them all down. 1532 01:23:19,265 --> 01:23:22,435 My mind seems to be farther than my body from the earth below. 1533 01:23:24,478 --> 01:23:26,814 I feel excited but scared. 1534 01:23:30,901 --> 01:23:32,778 It is a time of new beginnings. 1535 01:23:41,662 --> 01:23:43,664 [soft rock music playing] 1536 01:26:33,209 --> 01:26:34,126 [music fades] 1537 01:26:34,126 --> 01:26:39,126 DOWNLOADED FROM WWW.AWAFIM.TV 1538 01:26:34,126 --> 01:26:44,126 For latest movies and series with subtitles Visit WWW.AWAFIM.TV Today 128037

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