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- Tonight, it's part two

of the "Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" Reunion.

"Kyle, you posted a thirst trap,

hoping to get that
Champagne Papi follow.

Did it work?"
- No.

He still doesn't follow.
- Lisa, Bill from Manhattan

wants to know why
they called it quits

and pushed the
eject button first.

- I think you just have to
read the press, and Amelia did.

[laughter]

- Can't control the mouth.

- Crystal, you were
in the middle of Dorit

and Kyle's argument
on the plane.

Who was in the wrong?
- Yeah, Crystal.

- [clears throat]
- Why are you, like--like,

turning to me very
aggressively right now?

- I like being able to have
that banter with my friends.

Am I boring you?
- Oh, damn.

- You were not happy
when the first season aired.

- I kept thinking about my mom.
Like, what would my mom do?

[crying]

- I gave every
paycheck to my husband.

- How many mistresses
do you think he had?

- I know of three.

- Why didn't you
leave Tom sooner?

- Where was I going?

- Did you feel you
were held captive?

How long do you
think he was unfaithful?

- Years.
- Were you faithful to him?

[dramatic music]

Did you know that there
was liability when you left him?

♪ ♪

[tense music]

Erika, why not leave Tom
sooner if he was cheating on you?

- The cheating is a part of it.
There's so much more there.

And I've said to Tom,

"If you are in love with
someone else, divorce me."

- He said?
- Nothing.

- Nothing.
- Zero.

"If you are in love
with someone else,

don't make me be the bad guy."

- How long do you think
he was unfaithful to you?

- Years.

- Were you faithful to him?

- Well, yes, up until I
filed for divorce, yeah.

- Okay.
- Yeah, yeah.

- Well, this season,
Erika shocked everyone

when she filed for
divorce from Tom.

But as she confided in her
friends, they soon learned

Erika's seemingly
perfect marriage

was more of a
pretty mess. Watch.

- Tom and I had dinner
every night together,

and it was nice to talk

and just kind of
reconnect in a way.

I'm really content to let
people be who they are,

and that's one of
the one things I love

about Tom the most,
is he lets me be myself.

- Did you talk to
Tom? He's good?

- We spoke this
morning. He's good.

♪ ♪

[phone chimes]

[dramatic musical sting]

- What?
- "Ladies, I truly consider you

"my close friends,

"and this is why I'm
reaching out to tell you

that I filed for
divorce this morning."

- My life drastically
changed this week.

I did not see it
ending this way.

I was gonna hold that
man's hand till he died.

Mr. Girardi, I made you coffee.

- Oh, cool.
- Ooh, you clean up good.

- Gotta make sure
the jury likes me today.

- Every day.

- I'm really proud of you.

- Thank you. For saying that.

When he called me, I said,
"Where have you been?"

I was just assuming he
was with some other woman.

- He was cheating on you.

- Oh, sh--.

- One of the reasons
that I filed for divorce

is the resistance
to a conversation.

- He's not been an angel.
- No, he's not an angel.

My God. That's--no,
he's not an angel.

As much as Tom encouraged me,

I think he resented me
every step I took forward.

He was like, "Who the
(BLEEP) do you think you are?"

I'd go to hug him, and...

He wouldn't hug me back.

This is the end.

[crying]

- You had to
watch it back again.

- Yeah.

- How does it feel?

- It's okay. it's okay.

- You've been on
the show for six years.

- Yes.

- We've seen you with Tom,

and you have painted
a very rosy picture...

- Mm-hmm.
- Of your time with him.

- Sure.

- And viewers didn't
understand that.

Bet5000 said, "Erika's a liar.

"In every season, she's talked
about her amazing marriage.

This season it's all about
how he cheated on her."

Bob Slatton said, "I want
Erika Jayne to explain

"why she told the ladies
in Tahoe that her marriage

"was lovely and perfect,
and then a week later,

"she's backing up a
moving van to the mansion,

calling Tom abusive
and a cheater."

So, talk to me about that.

Why hide the fact that
you're in a broken marriage?

- All marriages are
complex. People are complex.

There were good times.
There were bad times.

You're talking about two
decades of a marriage.

- Okay.

- So, no one's
marriage is perfect.

- Do you think you went
far in the other direction

to protect him on this show?

- I think that I highlighted
the best of him.

- Why didn't you
leave Tom sooner?

- Where was I going?
- Where weren't you going?

You're on a hit TV show.

You have a career.
- Andy. Hold on.

I was not in control
of my finances.

I walk out with
two credit cards.

They get cut. Am
I gonna call you?

Am I gonna call you?
Who am I gonna go call?

- I know what you
make on this show.

It ain't bad.

- I gave every
paycheck to my husband.

- [gasps]

- Oh, wow.
- So crazy to me.

- Why? Why?
- Forever?

Since you've been making money?
- Yes.

I've handed every paycheck
I've ever made over.

- Would you say
you stayed with him

for the money and the security?
- No.

I stayed because
I had no access.

- Did you feel you
were held captive?

- I'll say this: I was
27 when I went in.

- Cocktail waitress.
- He was 60.

The power balance
is way out of whack.

I trusted this mean.
All of my finances

were kept down at the firm,
and everything was kept there.

- Then that sounds
like you did say for the--

- Hold on.

You're characterizing
it as "for the money."

I'm telling you I
could not leave

because I had no
access to the money.

- Okay.

- Regardless of how much money
there is, many women feel like

they can't leave because
they don't have access...

- That's right.

- And they don't
have independence.

[overlapping chatter]

- Listen, it doesn't matter
how much is on deposit.

- Right.
- If you can't access it,

you can't--
- You've got nothing.

- What are you gonna do?
- Weren't you, though,

entitled to half of everything?

You were with him
for over ten years.

- Well, clearly I'm
entitled to half of the debt,

because everybody's
suing me for it.

- Right.

Over the years, he's
having multiple affairs.

You're saying, "I stayed it in.

"It was an old-fashioned
relationship.

I didn't have
access to anything."

What I'm saying to
you is, if you had left,

wouldn't you legally
have been entitled to

half of what there was.

- And I responded yes.

I'm on for half the liability
and on for half the assets.

- But you didn't know

that there was
liability at the time.

- Which time?

- Did you?
- No.

And that is a big
part of this whole--

All of these lawsuits

that are being alleged.
- Well, the big question is:

did you know

that there was liability
when you left him?

Did you feel that
the ship was sinking

and you were about
to go down with it,

and you had to
get out at that time?

- I felt like he was sinking,
not necessarily "the ship."

There was no
talking to this person.

Trying to get him to
answer my questions,

being shut out
completely--anger,

personality changes.

And you can see now--look,
the man is in a home.

He's in a memory care facility.

We've all seen the pictures
of him with the black eye.

- Right.

- We've seen how disheveled
and how absolutely horrible

he has deteriorated
since I left in November.

So, what I have
been saying is true.

It's not unusual in Tom's
business for him to be sued.

But when Erika Girardi
started ending up on lawsuits,

that's when my
ears were pricked.

You remember I--it was
Denise's first reunion,

and I think that you
brought up I was being sued.

- Monty from Nevada said,
"Erika's happy to talk about

"Lisa Vanderpump all day,
but when it comes to Tom

defaulting on a $15 million
loan, she doesn't say a word."

- How about this? Resolved,
and they apologized.

You have to
understand something.

It's like a wall of
people around this man.

You have many lawyer--

That I can only access
a certain part of it.

- Did you call people

at the firm and say...
- No.

- "Am I on the hook for this?"
- No.

I called lawyers
that I knew, yes.

- And they said what?
- Hold on.

I am not at liberty to say what

and at what time I
sought legal counsel.

- Okay.
- Okay?

- Let me go back to
some viewer questions.

Celeste from Odessa, Texas said,

"Erika, it's been ten months
since you filed for divorce,

"and there's no
money to fight over.

Why hasn't your divorce
been finalized yet?"

- Competency hearing.
- "Is his conservatorship

the reason your divorce
has been delayed?"

- Yes. Yes.

- Liz Poppy tweeted,

"Why did you lie to Garcelle
about Tom's infidelity?

You told her point-blank
there were no other women."

- Because of who it was.

But just a little
'nother nugget,

there was--there were others.

- How many mistresses

do you think he had
during the marriage?

- I know of three.

- Did you confront
him about each one?

- Two. One I found
out on the day that I left.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

- How?
- I went through his phone,

and she had sent
a picture of her tits.

And he has a flip phone,
you know, so I responded,

"Nice tits, stupid bitch."

But I couldn't even figure
out how to put a space,

so it was like-like
a run-on sentence.

[laughter]

- Right, because you have
used to have to go down...

- I don't know how to do it!
- Flip phone!

- I mean, this is the
truth. You wanted it?

Here it is. I'm sorry.

- Coming up next...

"I clicked on the auction
for Tom's law firm.

"Almost choked when I
saw those panties for sale.

"Please explain to me
why there were lacy panties

in your husband's desk drawer?"

[up-tempo music]

- Wyatt from Springdale,
Arkansas said,

"Kyle, what rumors did
you hear about Tom's affairs,

and why didn't you tell
Erika about them earlier?"

- [sighs] You know--
- Go ahead, babe. It's fine.

- No. But you know,
you hear rumblings--

- You told--you
told Erika that...

- No.
- You had heard rumblings.

- No. Maybe--there was
little hints--like, people say

Erika acted like
everything was great.

She would give little hints
that things weren't so great.

I could feel that she
wasn't always happy.

You know, she'd make a
little joke here and there.

Like, Mauricio's calling
to check, she's like,

"Would be nice if Tom" --
You know, things like that.

I could always feel that
he wasn't kind to her.

He really wasn't.
And then I would hear

these little stories,
too, on the sides.

But we hear so many rumors
about so many people...

- Yeah.
- Oh, my gosh.

- I would think, "Oh,
who even cares."

- You just hear tons of rumors.

- Well, I started piecing
it together a little bit,

but of course I didn't
have anything clear and,

you know--until she actually
came out and shared it.

- Scarlett from Las Vegas
said, "Erika, were you drunk

"when you posted
about Tom's mistress

on Instagram? What
were you thinking?"

- No I was--I was angry.
- You were angry.

- I was angry.
And I'll tell you why,

because everyone was saying,

"Erika has this money."
- It's a sham.

- Yeah.
- "The divorce is a shame."

"This is a thing for the
two of them to hide assets."

I was like,
mother----er no, it's not.

As a matter of fact,
this is what's going on.

- I get the anger.
- Anger.

- I get it.

- Dina from
Philadelphia said, "Erika,

"I clicked on the auction
for Tom's law firm.

"Almost choked when I
saw those panties for sale.

"Please explain to me
why there were lacy panties

in your husband's desk drawer."
- Can I tell you something?

That was the first
time I saw it too.

They were definitely not mine.

Who knows who he
had bought them for?

But clearly...
- Oh, my God.

- It was perhaps a Valentine's
Day setup, because...

- I'm done.
- It was dated in January,

and then February was the 14th.

Don't know. They weren't mind.

- Erika, Lucille from Buffalo
said, "If you were kept away

"from your own finances,

"how were you able to
close out parts of your life

and rent a house, lease a car,
and move without Tom knowing?"

- Not able to
answer that question.

But it was well
within legal bounds.

I did nothing wrong, but I'm
not gonna answer that question.

- June from Muncie, Indiana

said, "I saw tabloid
photos of you

"wearing your Cartier
ring boarding a private jet.

Are you completely
insensitive or just clueless?"

- Neither.

I was invited on a trip,
and that's where I went.

- Not at your--
- Not at my expense. No.

- You did not pay for the jet.
- No.

- Ladies, Millie from
Appleton, Wisconsin said,

"At Erika's astrology
party last year,

Tom wasn't missing a beat..."

- Pat Wayne got me in
a movie in high school.

- It was a Western.

- So I got shot off
the roof and fell down.

- Did you have a stunt double?
- No, it was all me.

[laughter]

- You're a really
good storyteller.

- I know!
- Isn't he?

- Do you get it?
- Yeah. You get it, right?

- Oh, I got it from
the moment--yes.

- People always go--and I go...
- No.

- "Just meet the man."
- Totally.

- "And now he's in sudden
decline? How can that be?"

- He's on a loop.

Saying the same
stories over and over.

- Okay.
- He's a master persuader

and a master performer.

He could not have told
you anyone's name here.

Not a soul.

But he certainly could
sit there and entertain.

Will you please tell me
what your friend said?

- Jen.
- Thank you.

- Yeah, so, my friend watching
that episode said--and her mom

has severe dementia now.

And she said, "I'm telling you,
I'm seeing similarities in Tom

as I do in my mom. There's
a vacancy I'm seeing."

- Yes.
- And she said,

"They can be like
that one moment--clear

"and talking--and then
the next moment, nothing,

"or, you know, she gets confused

about which child,
this and that."

- Thank you.
- Hearing what she just said

right now actually
makes so much sense,

because that's
what he was doing.

He was regaling us with stories.

- Yes.

- And they were
not current stories.

- Right.
- That he's told

over and over again.
- Exactly.

- And you could tell that
those stories he's told

over and over.
Both: Old stories.

- Because that's
what he remembers.

- That's right. And
they start to remember

that--the older they get...
- The old stuff.

- They start to
remember and tell...

- They remember the old stuff.
- Yes!

- The old stores.
- A they cannot tell you...

- Because that's
hat my mom does.

- What day it is today. Right.
- That's what Lois does.

- Lois does. She tells
you the older things.

- Yeah.
- And they're on a loop.

- Yeah.
- Riley from Pittsburgh said,

"Erika, you say Tom
changed after the accident

"and displayed
signs of Alzheimer's.

"If you didn't know
what he was doing,

"why would you divorce
him when he was clearly sick?

"He supported you for 20
years and finally needed

your support, and
you just left him."

- That's not true.

It is not fair to say he
got Alzheimer's and I split.

The Alzheimer's and dementia
is a part of what was going on.

Even in this accident that
people seem think--whatever--

I was the one that found him.

I was the one that
took him to the hospital.

I was the one that
did not allow him

to go under anesthesia

after having been
unconscious for hours.

I took a picture of the breaks.

I sent them to
my dearest friend,

who is an orthopedic surgeon,

and I said, "Is this immediate?
Do we need to do this?

"'Cause I don't want
this man, at this age,

"with these head injuries,

to go under
anesthesia right now."

And he said, "No.
I'll fix it next week.

Go home." I took him home.
I did everything I humanly,

possibly could
to do right by him.

[dramatic music]

Sorry. I don't--I'm
not angry. I'm angry.

- Coming up...
"Kyle, Dorit, Garcelle,

"and even Carlton have
accused you of talking over people.

Do you ever think maybe the
problem is you and not Dorit?"

- Finally.
- Who's Carlton?

- Sorry. I don't-- I'm
not angry. I'm angry.

- No, I'm actually happy
hearing these details,

'cause we haven't
heard these details...

- No, I know.
- Until right now.

- I know. But this is
what has been happening.

I protected that man. Okay?

I reached out to many doctors,

and I was blown
off more than once.

One time, I was even
told by a physician,

"I don't want to get involved,

because I don't
want Tom to sue me."

Okay, people still
feared this man.

- Sarah from
Washington, Illinois said,

"Erika, how can
you be hurt Tom said

"someone could have
you if they could afford you?

"You literally
have a song called

'It's Expensive to Be Me.'"

- Right. I don't think we
should dig in too much

to an over-the-top,
campy, dance song.

Let's not over-analyze
it. It was a fun piece.

I'm not Bob Dylan over
here giving--you know.

I'm entertaining, baby.

- Okay. It's--that's--it's
established.

- It's not that deep, okay?
- Okay. Okay.

Rosario from Galveston
said, "Erika, you married a man

"who funded a very
expensive performing career,

"a career you've always wanted.
Knowing what you know now,

would you have
still married Tom?"

- [exhales deeply]

I'm at a place where
I don't quite know

who I was married to.

- Wow.

- Because there are good
parts and there are bad parts.

And I'm trying to--much like
everyone else around me,

trying to figure out what
the (BLEEP) happened.

In the law firm and
in my personal life

and the things
that I'm finding out,

there are moments
I am overwhelmed,

I am sad, I am heartbroken,
and then I am bewildered,

truly, where I'm like, what
was real? How about that?

- Do you think Tom loved you?
- I do. I do.

I think he loved me, and
then I think things happened...

- What happened?
- To him. I think he changed.

I think we all change,
like marriages change.

- Did you love him?
- I did.

And I think you can
see it. You know?

- I guess what
everybody's fixated on

is whether he ripped
off all these people.

- Right.
- And so, let's fixate on that

for a minute. And tell
me where you put that,

in terms of your
feelings for him.

- I really and truly
hope that is not true,

because that is not
the man that I married.

- Do you think there's a chance

that it is not true?
- Yes.

- It doesn't look good.
- It does not looking good.

However, we still need
to get to the bottom of it.

Only one side of the
story has been told.

- When you look and you
read about the allegations

that are being made about
him, your name is in there.

- Yes.
- All over the place.

- Yes.

- What do you
want people to know

about your emotions
relating to that?

- I feel terrible.
This is not who I am.

And I hope this
is not who he is.

- You still believe
that that could be--

- No. I said I hope that
is-- this has not happened.

I hope that he has not
done what is alleged here.

I am sitting here trying
to, A, number one,

gather all of the information,
and fight my way out of it.

And that's all I can do.

- Sutton didn't even know
she owned a baseball team.

- No.

- That's right. But
that's what divorce does.

- Yes. It reveals the ugly part

of--or the hidden
part of our partners.

- That's what I was
talking about with forensic...

- Accounting.
- Accounting.

- I am one of many.

If I could show you my DMs of
women that have reached out

to me that say--been
in similar situations,

married to a businessman--you
know, some lady found--like,

she owned, you
know, multiple homes.

I mean, you know,
so, it happens.

And that's, I think, also
hard for people to understand.

You know, if you've
never seen it, then you go,

"Well, how could you not know?

- Well, I think it
becomes more difficult

for people to understand
when it's allegedly

other people's money...
- Right.

- That's part of the equation.
- Exactly.

And what's the bankruptcy
trustee is getting down to.

You know, they've got
to sort out what money

was supposed to go where.
- Wow.

- And at this point,
quite honestly,

I have to worry about myself.

Whatever Tom Girardi did
or did not do, that's on him.

But I know that a lot
of his decision-making

is being pointing this way now.

- Yes.
- His life is over.

He's in his 80s. He's in
a memory care facility.

His career is over and
done. I just turned 50.

I cannot allow all
of this to destroy me

and take me to a place
that I cannot recover.

I have to survive this.

So, that's why I'm feisty.

Sorry. Hold on.
Give me that tissue.

But that's--that's why.

[soft music]

- All right. Well, we're gonna
get into more of what happened

after you left
Tom in a little bit.

- Okay.

[upbeat music]

- Welcome back.

Crystal, your housekeeper Lucy

has made an impression.
- Yes.

- She's the ultimate
fashion police.

- Do you like this?

- Lucy, it's not ugly.
- What you think of this one?

Ugh!

- How did she feel
about your reunion look?

- I didn't show it to her,

'cause she probably would
have said something insulting.

And I just didn't
want to think about it.

- Oh, no!
- No, I'm kidding.

- Right.
- I love her.

- Dorit, Kaitlyn from
Gresham, Oregon

thinks your wedding
dress designs are stunning.

But who can afford a
$30,000 wedding dress?

- This is, like, one of our
most expensive dresses.

I want to say like $35,000.

- $35,000?

- First of all, it's
a luxury brand.

That just happened to be
the jewel of the collection.

Most of the dresses are about,
you know, $6,000 to $8,000.

- Well, Dorit, you certainly
have a gift--a gift of gab.

And it's a gift that
keeps on giving...

- Yep.
- And giving and giving.

- And I'm proud of it.

- I could go on, and
frankly, so could she.

So let's just roll the package.
- [laughs]

- All right, let's go
around the table.

All: Oh!
- Let's go around,

and one word that you
think of yourself. Go.

- I'm hard-working.

- Dorit, you forgot talkative.

- You tend to hijack the moment
and just go on and on and on.

And I have a problem when
you won't let anybody else speak.

- Normally it takes
people a couple steps

to get to their point,
but Dorit, it's a car,

it's a train, it's a plane,
it's a connecting flight.

- Do I need to be
directly, like, Dorit?

- Direct? Yeah.

- Probably.
- With her?

- My God, will you shut up?

- Sispann pale. Stop talking.

Why am I looking at you, Dorit?

- Yell, well-- how
many languages

do you want to tell
me to shut up in?

[laughter]

- You take a lot of crap.
- I take a lot of crap,

and I've taken a
lot of crap for years.

I think I'm an easy target. Yes.

- Why?
- I do--I am longwinded.

- Right. Okay.

- But I don't feel like I
hijack conversations.

People would say that I
give a lot of detail, and I do.

- Got it.
- But you know,

I'm a very
detail-orientated person.

- Did anything that you saw
about your talking upset you?

- If it's not done
in a malicious way,

I think you can do
it. And I like that.

I like being able to have
that banter with my friends.

Am I boring you?

- I'm sorry. I just
swallowed a yawn.

But you are not
boring me whatsoever.

- You're never boring, honey.

- Kyle, Noelle from Syracuse
said, "Dorit, Garcelle,

"and even Carlton have
accused you of talking over people.

Do you ever think maybe the
problem is you and not Dorit?"

- Finally. Voice of reason.

- Who's Carlton?

- Exactly. Anyway.
- Well.

- When they--
When the tabloids--

- Yes, but I'm sorry when I--
- Hold on, let me talk.

Let me talk... - No, I won't.
- For one second. - No, and don't you dare

command me, you don't
----ing dare command me.

- Those are completely
different scenarios

and situations, so you
cannot compare the two.

- Jordan from Idaho said,

"Crystal, you were
in the middle of Dorit

and Kyle's argument
on the plane."

- "Who was in the wrong?"

- Yeah, Crystal.
- [clears throat]

- Why are you, like--like,

turning to me very
aggressively right now?

- Dorit's like, "If you
don't side with me,

you're gonna get it."

- They fight truly like sisters.

And they make up like sisters.

So I'm just gonna--I'm
gonna call it an even...

- Garcelle, what do you think?
- I'm gonna have to say Dorit,

because we were just talking
about how Dorit is longwinded.

- Wesley from
Stowe, Vermont said,

"Dorit, you put your foot in
your mouth when you said

it isn't just brown
people who work for you."

- We've had a lot of
people that work for us

that are very multi-cultural.

I've had a lot of Black
and Hispanic and Filipino.

And my kids are used to it.
I mean, some of the people

they've loved most in this
world are dark-skinned.

- Didn't you realize how
wrong it was to say that?

- You know, I was answering
a direct question from Garcelle.

And sometimes I
use words poorly.

This was one of those instances.

And I wish I could
have taken in back.

But I don't take back the
sentiment and what I meant,

which is I was raised
with a lot of diversity.

I'm raising my
kids the same way.

And it's not just
people that work for us,

it's also very, very
close family friends

that I've known way
before I had kids.

- Ketoiskaren tweeted,

"What Garcelle asked
went right over Dorit's head.

"She didn't ask if you
only staffed brown people,

"she asked if the only brown
folk you and your family know

"are the ones who
have to clean after y'all.

Garcelle, is this an example
of Dorit not listening?"

- No, that night it was a
tough conversation to have.

It was uncomfortable for me.

I'm sure it was
uncomfortable for these ladies.

And I didn't know
how you took...

- That's how you make progress.
- What I said.

- I liked what you said,
because you explained

and taught me
something I didn't know.

You know, Michael Jackson
and I grew up together,

and Michael said to me,
"Kathy, I don't see color."

I said, well, "Either do we."

- I know you can
see me as a woman.

You can see me as a mother.
You can see me as a friend.

But if you don't see color,
then you don't see me.

- Sharing information--I
think it's beautiful.

- I do too.

Everybody on social media
takes everything so seriously...

- Right.
- All the time.

And we were having
a conversation,

and we were sort of dissecting--

- Educational, I think.
- It was very educational.

And it was really great.

And I love this
aspect of the show,

that we've been able to
have these conversations.

- We've been able to
do it. Nobody else has.

- But it was a
tough conversation.

It was an uncomfortable
conversation.

It really was.

- Bria from Woodstock said,
"Tell us straight--is your nose

as original as the vintage
Dior in your closet?"

- You know, I really, really
want to make this point

and get this straight,

because this
actually really hurt me.

I went to the nose
doctor with Kyle.

- She went with me for
my consultation as well,

and he gave her
an impromptu one.

- Let's look at
your nose carefully.

Do you think it's
wide from the front?

- Well, now it
looks really wide.

- Okay. I agree with you.

- [gasps]
- Tip is a bit wide.

Now smile for me real big.

See how your nose droops
and you get a small hump there?

- See how you look like
your grandmother's nose?

- I've never had
one, hand to God.

And I would say
if I had a nose job.

I don't know why I have
to constantly prove it.

But I don't like the
insinuation that I'm lying

or that I'm not--I
genuinely haven't.

- Brittany from Wilton,
Connecticut said, "Garcelle,

"do you think the Dorit goldfish

talked the Kyle goldfish
to death, literally?"

- Oh!

The black and
white one is Dorit,

because look at her. Fabulous.

Regular goldfish is Kyle.

[laughing]
- Oh, sh--.

[laughter]
- Oh, Lord.

- We are gonna leave it there.

We're gonna be
right back after this.

Next...

Rinna, I get why
you didn't like the idea

of Amelia dating Scott.

Did you push her
towards that decision?

- You know, I'm
so ----ing shady.

[laughter]

- Stand by, everyone; let's
make sure everybody's in place.

And queue Andy.

- Welcome back

to the "Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" Reunion.

Lisa, it was so fun seeing
you and Eileen Davidson

in "Beyond Salem" on Peacock.

- You shut your damn mouth.

I've had about enough
of you, you beast!

- Beast? How dare you!

- You know, they kept
all the good parts out of it.

They didn't have
the "beast" line in.

- Just shut your ----ing mouth.
- Excuse me.

- I've had enough
of you, you beast.

- Beast?
- Yes.

- How dare you!

- And Eileen and I were
like, "You have to say 'beast.'"

- Right.
- "We have to say these words."

Anyway, it all came
together, and it was a blast.

We had so much fun.
- It's really fun.

Well, when the
world slowed down,

so did Lisa and
Hamlin household.

And while Harry's
gardening and cooking

were nothing if not heavenly,
it was Amelia's relationship

that had everyone
saying, "Oh, Lord."

- Here we go.
- Let's watch.

- Here we go.

Harry?
- I'm down here.

- Oh, look at your garden.
Hey, we have a pumpkin!

I have definitely formed a
stronger dependency on Harry

during these last ten months.

- These are haricot
verts, the French beans.

- I love these.
- Tomatoes look done.

- Is this your compost thing?

- That's my compost thing, yeah.

- Do you put poop in there?

[laughter]
- No.

- I cannot imagine what
Harry Hamlin sees in me.

I really can't.

- Pick up the nozzle
and run back here with it.

All this has to
happen in one minute.

- I know. I know.
- Good for you.

- Ah!
- Good for you.

- I did it on my first try!
- All right.

- But I do know how to
give a damn good blow job.

[laughter]

Whoo!

I handle his hose quite well.

Harry is the domestic one.

- This is so pretty.
- So welcome to Positano.

- Wow!
- Wow!

- Que bello!
- This is gorgeous!

Did you set this?

Or did Lisa set this? I
need to know these things.

- She did nothing.

- It would be very different
in my house, let me tell you.

- My husband would
never know how to do this.

- I--never, in a million years.

- We need to take Dad
to dinner somewhere.

- Okay.

- We can talk about my daughter,

who is linked to a guy
named Scott Disick.

And I was like, okay, come
on. Right? Like, come on.

Okay. Like, why can't
it be Harry Styles?

Why the (BLEEP)
is it Scott Disick?

- He's too damn old!
- I know!

- He's old.
- And he's got three kids.

- Would I be freaked
out if I had a daughter

that was dating an older
man? No, I was the daughter

that was dating an older
man all my life, so no.

- Amelia's 19. That's how
old I was when I had my first.

Can you imagine?
So, just so you know.

- Oh! The terror.
- [laughs]

- [laughing]
- No, no, no, no. No. No.

- No, ma'am.
- He's like, "Don't even play."

- Bill from Manhattan

wants to know why
they called it quits

and who pushed
the eject button first?

- I think you just have to
read the press, and Amelia did.

[laughter]

- Can't control the mouth.
- Were you glad she did?

- Yes.

- Did you push her
towards that decision,

or did she make
it all on her own?

- She made it all on her own.

- The news reports
are that it had to do

with the whole DM
exchange that Scott got in.

- Well, I don't think
that was helpful.

- Right.
- There's never one reason why,

I think, people split up.

You know, now's
the time to heal.

Now's the time for
everyone to heal.

- Including yourself.
- Well, yeah.

- And you began healing
by posting a picture

of Harry Styles
on your Instagram.

- You know, I'm
so ----ing shady.

[laughter]

I love Harry Styles.
You know that.

I mean, I was already posting

Harry many times,
if you follow me.

- I hear he's a fan of the show.

Both: He is.
- He loves the show.

- He actually asked some
of us for a birthday video.

- Hearing that you have
been self-quarantined

and binge-watching

"Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills"

is just about the best
news I've gotten all month.

[laughs]

- Ah! He loves the show.
- Wow.

What was Amelia's
reaction to seeing you kind of

bashing the relationship
or him on the show?

- Well, I let them know that.
You know, I mean, I was--

- You did.
- Of course. I warned

everybody--I mean, listen,
people are still human,

and I think it still
hurts people's feelings

when you say something
that isn't necessarily...

- Flattering.
- You know, flattering. So.

- Do you think your doing that
played into their relationship

at all in a negative way?
- No.

No. I don't think so. I don't.

- How did you ladies
feel about the breakup?

- Good.
- [chuckles]

- Relieved.
- Yeah.

- No, I mean, I want
everyone to be happy.

But you know how I
felt from the beginning.

- You want your
kids to be happy.

- Right.
- There was too much

of an age gap.
- Crystal, you and Rob

have a 20-year age gap.

Did your parents approve?

- Well, my parents
were 23 years apart.

- Oh, great!

- Yeah, so it was
no issue on their part.

- Kendall from
Lansing, Michigan said,

"Rinna, I get why
you didn't like the idea

"of Amelia dating Scott.

"But when you
actually met the guy,

is that when you started
to really hate the idea?"

- No. Actually,
he was very nice.

When we met him,
he was very nice.

- How many times
did you all hang out?

- I would say three times.

- You would say three times.
- Yeah.

Well, I mean, it
was three times,

but I'm saying
yeah, three times.

- Sean from Oakland said,

"Kyle, you're close
friends with Kris Jenner.

"Did you get in trouble
with any of the Kardashians

"when you shared
your negative opinions

about Scott dating Amelia?"

- They never said
anything about it.

I did feel about it right after,

because, you know,
I do know all of them.

But, I mean, Amelia's 20,
and I'm a mom of daughters.

So, I wouldn't approve
if I were in Lisa's shoes,

but I knew that she had
no control over that. So.

- Yeah.
- All right.

It must have been hard not
seeing Lois for all of COVID.

Have you seen her yet?
- I have.

Amelia and I went up and
celebrated her 93rd birthday...

- Wow.
- In June.

[electronic music playing]

♪ ♪

- That's a blessing.

- Natalie from Akron, Ohio said,

"Rinna, why do you think Drake
follows you on Instagram...?"

- (BLEEP), I have no idea.

- "But not the rest
of the women?"

- I really have no clue.

I didn't know Drake followed me.

His name is, like, Champagne
Pappy or something.

- That's Champagne Papi.
I follow Champagne Papi.

- How would you know who the
(BLEEP) Champagne Pappy is?

- "Papi. Papi."
- Papi.

- Hilarious.

- Oscar from Delaware
wants to know,

"What other celebrities
are you cozy with

on social media, Rinna?"
- Oh.

You know who really thrilled
me recently is Florence Pugh.

Is that how you
say her last name?

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- The movie star?
- Yeah.

- I think that's what's so
great about Instagram,

is you get to talk to people

that you would
never get to talk to.

- Right.
- These people DM me,

and I'm like, "Wait,
what?" It's exciting.

- Lily from St.
Petersburg, Florida said,

"Kyle, you posted a
thirst trap, hoping to get

that Champagne Papi
follow. Did it work?"

- No. He still
doesn't follow me.

- People really had positive
reactions to Harry Hamlin...

- I know - This season.

Here are some comments.

"Harry can plant his vegetables
in my garden all night long."

- Cute.
- "Harry Hamlin cooks,

"he entertains, he listens.
Lisa, what else do you

bring to the marriage
besides your damn good BJs?"

- Oh, damn.
- [laughs]

- You know, Harry
says this one thing--

And it'll make everybody
laugh--but he says

that I am the smartest
person he's ever met.

- Aww, that's sweet.

- And I always think
that's so amazing...

- That's really sweet.

- 'Cause wouldn't necessarily
think that about me.

So, having Harry Hamlin
say that--I always love that.

- Well, and he knows you
better than anybody. So.

- We love Harry.

- Garcelle, Abigail
from Tulsa said,

"It was so sweet of Harry
to make you extra sauce."

Would you rather be
friends with Harry than Lisa?"

- Oh, my God.

- I've loved Harry
for a very long time.

[laughter]

- So, there's your answer.
- Harry!

- I have something for you.
- You have something for me?

- It's a bunny. No, kidding.
- Is it a bunny?

[gasps] You brought me
sauce? Are you kidding me?

- This is Harry Hamlin's
sauce that he made

before he went to Canada.
It's tomatoes from his garden.

- Wow!

- Make sure when you eat it
you send a text the next day.

[laughter]
- I was about to say.

You gotta text him
right this second.

I'd do it right now.
Stop what you're doing.

- That is funny.

All right, thank you,
Harry, for the sauce.

And we are gonna take a
break. We'll be right back.

Wow, I'm so excited about that.

I gotta figure out how
I'm gonna get that home.

Coming up...

- It's really hard for Kathy

to talk about anything
to do with our mom.

- We are back with more

of the "Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" Reunion.

Well, for years, Kyle
and Kathy's relationship

was in need of a revival.
But now that they're back,

can this sister act keep
from getting canceled again?

Let's watch.

- Doogie knows her stuff.
- [laughs]

I have no idea why my
sisters call me Doogie.

Now that I think about
it, it's a little suspicious.

[laughs]

- A Doogie. Little child.

It's a love name.

Like a little Tootsie
Roll. [giggles]

I don't want onions in lasagne.

- I'm famous for
my lasagne, okay?

- How come I've never had it?

- Because you weren't talking
to me for too many years.

Joking like this with Kathy,
it really does make me think

about all the times
we missed together.

- How is your relationship
with Kathy right now?

- Um, not great.

- Are you speaking?

- Not right now.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

- We've been under
scrutiny for so many years,

and what happens is
it's only drawing attention.

- My sister and I had a lot of
setbacks in our relationship.

And then I did "American Woman,"

and I think Kathy thought

that I was going to disrespect
our mother or my sisters.

I did a deal with
Warner Brothers

for a scripted TV show
about my life growing up.

- How has your family
reacted? Did they say well done?

- Uh, not yet.

Anytime there was a
conversation to bring

the family together again,
it just never went well.

My family celebrates Christmas.
- Right.

- But I'm not
always invited now.

It's not like it was before.
We did everything together.

Talked every single
day, ten times a day.

It's not like that.

It was a very hard time.

I feel like it caused
so much pain

and heartache in the family,

and none of us ever
want to feel that pain again.

These remind me of
when we were little.

- Remember Mom would
make that--the tomato soup,

out of the can?

- She really was
not a good cook.

- This is what she doesn't like.

- What, the talking about that?

- Being together.

[crying softly]

- Mom was so funny
with her cooking.

You know?

- Aw.
- Such a waste.

- What a waste.

Both: Aw.
- [smooches]

Snuggle me, Doogie. [laughter]

- That's amazing.

- Aww.

- It's nice that there's
a happy ending here.

Right? both: Yep.

- Kathy, what's your
reaction when you see

some of that old footage of Kyle

talking about being
estranged from you?

- It's-it's very sad,
because it's--first time

I ever saw it was when
I saw that episode.

- I have to assume
you were not happy

when the first season aired.
- No.

- It upset you a lot
to see that limousine.

You've said that.

- After everything that
I have done for you,

everything I've done

for you--I'm always
there for you--

- Everything you've done for me?

- Yeah.
- You stole my goddamn house!

- You better ----ing
take that back right now.

You better ----ing...

- Stop it. Stop.

- Right now.
- Stop it. Stop it.

- You are a liar and,
second, an alcoholic.

- Then you had Kim's issues...
- Don't.

- With her sobriety
playing out on the show.

- Right.
- And I again have to assume

that that was very painful
for you, as it was for Kyle.

- I kept thinking about my mom.
Like, what would my mom do?

- Wow.
- And as the oldest sister,

I feel like,

Holy...

- A responsibility.

- Right.
- Yeah.

And I understand
Erika a little bit,

because I think there's a part
of me that was very much, like,

holding things in like
that. Don't you think?

- Mm-hmm. Oh,
you definitely did.

- And when you can stand
back and look at yourself

by having this on
the show like that,

if it can help other people
to, like, pick up the phone

or just be more vulnerable
and not waste time

and a
relationship--because we did.

We wasted a lot of time.

- Thank God you're
still here to change that.

- Right. Absolutely.

- How many episodes
of "American Woman"

did you wind up
watching? Or did you?

- You know, I watched a trailer.

I don't watch TV much.

- Given what an issue it
was, do you think maybe

if you had watched
it you would have--

That maybe would have
put that to bed a little bit?

- No, because I don't even
talk to my mother's friends.

- Interesting.

- There's a tape
of her talking to us.

I just--the fact that
she's not here anymore,

[voice breaking] it's
just very hard for me.

[crying]

- [quietly] It's okay.

I do feel like it's
really hard for Kathy to

talk about any of this--
Anything to do with our mom.

It's okay. It's okay.

[soft music]

It's okay. It's okay, it's okay.

It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay.
- It's too hard for her.

It's too hard.

- [sobbing]

- It's okay.

- Next week, the
reunion continues.

How did you land a
job at an escort agency?

- It was the summer between
high school and college.

- Prime time to work
at an escort agency.

- Right. Well, I was 18. So.
- [laughs]

- Who would trust
Kathy to cut your hair?

- Oh, hell no!

- What about to do dental work?
- Not dental.

- That's where
you draw the line.

[laughter]

- Do you stand by your assertion

that the leather pants--?
- They weren't my favorite.

- What did Erika know?

Did you have any sense this
alleged theft was happening?

When the women
ask you questions,

you lash out at them.
- Absolutely.

I'm lashing out at
everyone, Andy.

- You come off as
you're the victim.

- You looked like
you were the victim.

- Are you ----ing kidding me?

- You found him after he
was unconscious for 12 hours?

- Yes.
- Is there a police report?

- They can't find one.

- Where's your
anger towards him?

- What do you want me to do?

- You just bit Crystal's
head off and said--

- She just told me I
wasn't angry enough.

Am I angry now enough for you?

You don't know
what I have done...

- That's--
- Or what I will do.

- That's true.
- What will you do?

- You'll just have to
wait and see, won't you?

[dramatic music]