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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,311 --> 00:00:08,399 >> NARRATOR: A young man's 2 00:00:08,399 --> 00:00:09,400 spiritual journey. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,532 >> ERICH VON DANIKEN: I was a 4 00:00:10,532 --> 00:00:11,837 boy, 16 years old, when I said, 5 00:00:11,837 --> 00:00:13,230 "This is not God. 6 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:14,666 What are we talking about?" 7 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:16,668 >> NARRATOR: A controversial 8 00:00:16,668 --> 00:00:17,713 bestseller. 9 00:00:17,713 --> 00:00:19,323 >> GEORGE NOORY: I was 10 00:00:19,323 --> 00:00:20,281 mesmerized by it. 11 00:00:20,281 --> 00:00:21,543 I couldn't put it down. 12 00:00:21,543 --> 00:00:22,848 >> NARRATOR: And a scientific 13 00:00:22,848 --> 00:00:24,285 theory that threatened to change 14 00:00:24,285 --> 00:00:25,373 the world. 15 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:26,591 >> DAVID CHILDRESS: Everything 16 00:00:26,591 --> 00:00:27,766 was turned upside-down 17 00:00:27,766 --> 00:00:29,377 by Erich von Daniken. 18 00:00:29,377 --> 00:00:31,292 >> NARRATOR: Just what are the 19 00:00:31,292 --> 00:00:32,728 facts behind Erich von Daniken 20 00:00:32,728 --> 00:00:35,296 and ancient astronaut theory? 21 00:00:35,296 --> 00:00:37,472 What were the divine 22 00:00:37,472 --> 00:00:38,777 inspirations... 23 00:00:38,777 --> 00:00:39,996 >> GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: The 24 00:00:39,996 --> 00:00:41,128 ancient Egyptians did build the 25 00:00:41,128 --> 00:00:43,956 pyramids with the assistance of 26 00:00:43,956 --> 00:00:45,523 the Guardians of the Sky. 27 00:00:45,523 --> 00:00:47,351 >> NARRATOR: ...the bizarre 28 00:00:47,351 --> 00:00:49,353 revelations... 29 00:00:49,353 --> 00:00:50,528 >> JASON MARTELL: We're just 30 00:00:50,528 --> 00:00:52,095 starting to rediscover ancient 31 00:00:52,095 --> 00:00:53,618 technology that did exist 32 00:00:53,618 --> 00:00:55,620 thousands of years ago. 33 00:00:55,620 --> 00:00:57,579 >> NARRATOR: ...and the 34 00:00:57,579 --> 00:00:58,841 shocking conclusions that were 35 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:00,190 too incredible to be ignored? 36 00:01:00,190 --> 00:01:02,018 >> ROBERT BAUVAL: Even if there 37 00:01:02,018 --> 00:01:03,672 is a chance in ten million that 38 00:01:03,672 --> 00:01:04,847 he is right, then everything 39 00:01:04,847 --> 00:01:06,066 changes. 40 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,154 >> VON DANIKEN: We have been 41 00:01:07,154 --> 00:01:08,372 visited, and these visitors 42 00:01:08,372 --> 00:01:11,941 will return to Earth again. 43 00:01:11,941 --> 00:01:13,160 >> NARRATOR: Millions of 44 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,378 people around the world believe 45 00:01:14,378 --> 00:01:16,293 we have been visited in the past 46 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:17,990 by extraterrestrial beings. 47 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:21,733 What if it were true? 48 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:24,388 Did ancient aliens really help 49 00:01:24,388 --> 00:01:26,477 to shape our history, 50 00:01:26,477 --> 00:01:28,958 and if so, 51 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:30,220 what does this say 52 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:32,657 not only about mankind's past 53 00:01:32,657 --> 00:01:35,356 not only about mankind's past but about its future? 54 00:01:35,356 --> 00:02:05,473 But about its future? 55 00:02:05,473 --> 00:02:07,518 >> NARRATOR: Minneapolis, 56 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:09,259 Minnesota, 57 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:11,305 October, 2012. 58 00:02:11,305 --> 00:02:13,350 >> I want to introduce. 59 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:14,482 Erich von Daniken. 60 00:02:14,482 --> 00:02:17,311 >> NARRATOR: Hundreds gather to 61 00:02:17,311 --> 00:02:18,921 hear iconic author and 62 00:02:18,921 --> 00:02:20,836 researcher Erich von Daniken 63 00:02:20,836 --> 00:02:22,664 speak at the Paradigm Symposium, 64 00:02:22,664 --> 00:02:24,492 a four-day event focused on 65 00:02:24,492 --> 00:02:27,103 exploring ancient cosmology, 66 00:02:27,103 --> 00:02:29,497 anthropology, archaeology, and 67 00:02:29,497 --> 00:02:32,152 science fiction. 68 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:33,414 >> VON DANIKEN: Maybe we have 69 00:02:33,414 --> 00:02:34,763 been visited from outer space. 70 00:02:34,763 --> 00:02:36,460 Where's the proof? 71 00:02:36,460 --> 00:02:37,635 What can we find? 72 00:02:37,635 --> 00:02:40,072 >> NARRATOR: His books have sold 73 00:02:40,072 --> 00:02:42,074 over 65 million copies 74 00:02:42,074 --> 00:02:43,772 worldwide. 75 00:02:43,772 --> 00:02:45,556 He is a hero to some 76 00:02:45,556 --> 00:02:48,124 and a heretic to others, 77 00:02:48,124 --> 00:02:49,560 but Erich von Daniken's 78 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,345 controversial theories have 79 00:02:51,345 --> 00:02:53,129 captured the attention of the 80 00:02:53,129 --> 00:02:55,349 world and ignited a movement 81 00:02:55,349 --> 00:02:56,698 known as ancient astronaut 82 00:02:56,698 --> 00:02:58,439 theory. 83 00:02:58,439 --> 00:02:59,440 >> VON DANIKEN: The scientific 84 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,876 community, they were always 85 00:03:00,876 --> 00:03:02,660 afraid to think in this way. 86 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:04,488 We have to change our thinking. 87 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:05,924 >> NARRATOR: Von Daniken's 88 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:07,622 research has taken him all over 89 00:03:07,622 --> 00:03:09,624 the world to investigate the 90 00:03:09,624 --> 00:03:10,973 unexplained mysteries 91 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:12,627 of ancient cultures. 92 00:03:12,627 --> 00:03:14,324 He has spent his lifetime daring 93 00:03:14,324 --> 00:03:15,717 to question what mainstream 94 00:03:15,717 --> 00:03:18,459 scholars hold to be true. 95 00:03:18,459 --> 00:03:19,634 >> VON DANIKEN: We are the 96 00:03:19,634 --> 00:03:20,635 descendents, ladies and 97 00:03:20,635 --> 00:03:21,766 gentlemen, we are the offsprings 98 00:03:21,766 --> 00:03:23,681 of these extraterrestrials, 99 00:03:23,681 --> 00:03:27,119 of these extraterrestrials, and it's not by coincidence. 100 00:03:27,119 --> 00:03:29,383 And it's not by coincidence. 101 00:03:29,383 --> 00:03:30,645 >> NARRATOR: Erich von Daniken's 102 00:03:30,645 --> 00:03:32,168 rise to notoriety began in 103 00:03:32,168 --> 00:03:35,084 February, 1968, when the Swiss 104 00:03:35,084 --> 00:03:37,042 hotel manager-turned-author 105 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:39,001 published his groundbreaking 106 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:42,831 book Chariots of the Gods. 107 00:03:42,831 --> 00:03:44,702 In it, the young writer 108 00:03:44,702 --> 00:03:46,008 theorized that intelligent 109 00:03:46,008 --> 00:03:48,010 extraterrestrial beings visited. 110 00:03:48,010 --> 00:03:50,186 Earth in the distant past and 111 00:03:50,186 --> 00:03:55,060 made contact with mankind. 112 00:03:55,060 --> 00:03:57,541 It caused a sensation, 113 00:03:57,541 --> 00:03:59,500 selling an impressive 500,000 114 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,067 copies in its first year of 115 00:04:02,067 --> 00:04:03,417 publication. 116 00:04:03,417 --> 00:04:05,854 >> BAUVAL: When the book first 117 00:04:05,854 --> 00:04:06,898 appeared was the year where we 118 00:04:06,898 --> 00:04:08,726 landed a man on the moon, 119 00:04:08,726 --> 00:04:10,728 and so there's a whole belief 120 00:04:10,728 --> 00:04:12,339 now that it was possible to 121 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:14,602 travel into space, that we would 122 00:04:14,602 --> 00:04:17,779 send people to space. 123 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:19,824 >> CHILDRESS: Many people were 124 00:04:19,824 --> 00:04:20,999 very excited about this whole 125 00:04:20,999 --> 00:04:23,785 new ancient astronaut theory. 126 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:26,266 They thought it made sense. 127 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,268 We were coming ourselves into. 128 00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:31,140 We were coming ourselves into the modern space age. 129 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:34,056 The modern space age. 130 00:04:34,056 --> 00:04:35,797 >> MIKE BARA: People were 131 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:36,928 really, really interested in 132 00:04:36,928 --> 00:04:38,452 these kinds of subjects and 133 00:04:38,452 --> 00:04:40,323 wondering if maybe there had 134 00:04:40,323 --> 00:04:41,455 been something that we had 135 00:04:41,455 --> 00:04:43,413 secretly discovered on the moon 136 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:44,675 that may have pointed towards 137 00:04:44,675 --> 00:04:46,155 extraterrestrial origins for 138 00:04:46,155 --> 00:04:48,636 man. 139 00:04:48,636 --> 00:04:50,377 >> NICK REDFERN: Although the 140 00:04:50,377 --> 00:04:52,422 phenomenon of ancient astronauts 141 00:04:52,422 --> 00:04:54,250 has been around since the '50s, 142 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,426 it was reavon Daniken who 143 00:04:56,426 --> 00:04:58,472 opened the doors to where it 144 00:04:58,472 --> 00:04:59,473 became part of the popular 145 00:04:59,473 --> 00:05:00,648 culture. 146 00:05:00,648 --> 00:05:01,431 >> CHRISTOPHER O'BRIEN: 147 00:05:01,431 --> 00:05:02,606 Chariots of the Godswas a very 148 00:05:02,606 --> 00:05:04,434 crucial book for me because it 149 00:05:04,434 --> 00:05:05,870 opened my eyes up to the 150 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:06,871 possibility that ancient 151 00:05:06,871 --> 00:05:09,178 cultures may have been in 152 00:05:09,178 --> 00:05:10,919 connection with or interacting 153 00:05:10,919 --> 00:05:12,747 with some sort of off-planet 154 00:05:12,747 --> 00:05:14,966 intelligence. 155 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:16,228 >> NOORY: I was mesmerized by 156 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:17,926 it; I couldn't put it down. 157 00:05:17,926 --> 00:05:19,319 It might've been the first book 158 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:20,668 I read cover to cover in one 159 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:22,452 day. 160 00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:24,193 His theories were just 161 00:05:24,193 --> 00:05:25,673 phenomenal where he talked about 162 00:05:25,673 --> 00:05:26,935 the possibility of 163 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:29,981 extraterrestrial visitations. 164 00:05:29,981 --> 00:05:31,069 >> NARRATOR: By using rhetorical 165 00:05:31,069 --> 00:05:33,637 questions, von Daniken suggested 166 00:05:33,637 --> 00:05:35,944 that evidence of alien close 167 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:38,338 encounters could be found in 168 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:39,643 everything from ancient 169 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:41,166 religious texts and mysterious 170 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,604 stone carvings to monumental 171 00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:45,388 structures and monoliths located 172 00:05:45,388 --> 00:05:48,304 all over the world. 173 00:05:48,304 --> 00:05:50,437 >> BARA: What he basically says 174 00:05:50,437 --> 00:05:52,221 is, you can no longer look at 175 00:05:52,221 --> 00:05:53,788 the traditional interpretations 176 00:05:53,788 --> 00:05:56,747 of historical events, 177 00:05:56,747 --> 00:05:58,009 historical monuments, 178 00:05:58,009 --> 00:05:59,184 historical structures, 179 00:05:59,184 --> 00:06:01,709 historical cultures at face 180 00:06:01,709 --> 00:06:03,537 value. 181 00:06:03,537 --> 00:06:04,755 You have to look at this in a 182 00:06:04,755 --> 00:06:06,366 much broader context of what 183 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:08,237 could be perhaps 184 00:06:08,237 --> 00:06:11,458 extraterrestrial intervention. 185 00:06:11,458 --> 00:06:13,242 >> CHILDRESS: One of the things 186 00:06:13,242 --> 00:06:15,636 that Erich did was to take very 187 00:06:15,636 --> 00:06:17,507 familiar Bible stories and 188 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:21,685 reinterpret them... 189 00:06:21,685 --> 00:06:23,339 where people are interacting 190 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:24,427 with angels. 191 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:26,342 They're even taken up into space 192 00:06:26,342 --> 00:06:28,518 in fiery chariots and things 193 00:06:28,518 --> 00:06:31,521 like that, and what it was 194 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:32,740 was a re-examination of 195 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:35,830 what we're taught. 196 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:37,266 >> NARRATOR: But despite being 197 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:39,137 well received by the public, 198 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:40,661 scholars and scientists regarded 199 00:06:40,661 --> 00:06:42,837 von Daniken's claims as 200 00:06:42,837 --> 00:06:45,492 pseudoscience. 201 00:06:45,492 --> 00:06:47,494 >> VON DANIKEN: I expected to 202 00:06:47,494 --> 00:06:48,625 be ridiculed, but I did not 203 00:06:48,625 --> 00:06:51,411 expect the unfair way in which 204 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,151 the ridiculing happened in the 205 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:54,457 media. 206 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:56,416 I wa that time attacked. 207 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:58,069 "Erich von Daniken said..." 208 00:06:58,069 --> 00:07:01,595 In reality, in Chariots of the. 209 00:07:01,595 --> 00:07:04,467 Gods, I had 238 question marks. 210 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,949 Nobody read the question marks. 211 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:10,517 >> O'BRIEN: Trailblazers tend 212 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:12,127 to become targets, and so 213 00:07:12,127 --> 00:07:14,477 academia for many years has 214 00:07:14,477 --> 00:07:16,697 slagged von Daniken, 215 00:07:16,697 --> 00:07:17,611 saying it's sloppy research, 216 00:07:17,611 --> 00:07:18,699 it's sloppy thinking, 217 00:07:18,699 --> 00:07:20,527 it's sloppy analysis. 218 00:07:20,527 --> 00:07:22,311 However, as the years have gone 219 00:07:22,311 --> 00:07:23,617 on, more and more of his... his 220 00:07:23,617 --> 00:07:26,663 early work has now kind of been 221 00:07:26,663 --> 00:07:28,012 vindicated by other people, 222 00:07:28,012 --> 00:07:29,666 and I think we can all trace 223 00:07:29,666 --> 00:07:31,494 back this interest in this 224 00:07:31,494 --> 00:07:33,191 subject to von Daniken's 225 00:07:33,191 --> 00:07:35,193 groundbreaking work. 226 00:07:35,193 --> 00:07:36,586 >> MARTELL: All the great 227 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:38,240 thinkers of our time and in 228 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,676 the past have been people 229 00:07:39,676 --> 00:07:43,550 who challenged the norm. 230 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:44,594 So Erich von Daniken really 231 00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:46,553 challenged the norm of academia 232 00:07:46,553 --> 00:07:49,207 to show that these things that 233 00:07:49,207 --> 00:07:51,035 we thought of as just religious 234 00:07:51,035 --> 00:07:52,602 myths actually have scientific 235 00:07:52,602 --> 00:07:54,604 merit, and we need to look 236 00:07:54,604 --> 00:07:56,519 into them further. 237 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:58,086 >> NARRATOR: But what was the 238 00:07:58,086 --> 00:07:59,391 source for Erich von Daniken's 239 00:07:59,391 --> 00:08:01,393 groundbreaking theory? 240 00:08:01,393 --> 00:08:03,178 Where did the notion of alien 241 00:08:03,178 --> 00:08:05,267 astronauts visiting the earth in 242 00:08:05,267 --> 00:08:10,272 the ancient past come from? 243 00:08:10,272 --> 00:08:11,360 >> VON DANIKEN: I was educated 244 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,666 in a boarding school led 245 00:08:12,666 --> 00:08:14,232 by Jesuits. 246 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:15,625 Three years, we had to translate 247 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:16,887 parts of the Bible from one 248 00:08:16,887 --> 00:08:18,672 language into the other. 249 00:08:18,672 --> 00:08:21,022 In the first Book of Moses... 250 00:08:21,022 --> 00:08:22,545 [rumbling] 251 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:24,068 ...the Lord descends from the 252 00:08:24,068 --> 00:08:26,027 heavens down to Earth on a holy 253 00:08:26,027 --> 00:08:27,071 mountain. 254 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:29,378 With smoke and fire and loud 255 00:08:29,378 --> 00:08:30,684 noise and trembling, and 256 00:08:30,684 --> 00:08:33,034 everyone was afraid. 257 00:08:33,034 --> 00:08:34,601 That was the moment when I 258 00:08:34,601 --> 00:08:37,691 said, "This is not God." 259 00:08:37,691 --> 00:08:39,127 What are we talking about? 260 00:08:39,127 --> 00:08:41,695 My God does not need a vehicle 261 00:08:41,695 --> 00:08:43,740 in which to move around, which 262 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,089 trembles and makes smoke 263 00:08:45,089 --> 00:08:46,743 "and loud noise." 264 00:08:46,743 --> 00:08:48,528 And it was the Jesuit priest who 265 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,094 said, "Erich, maybe you should 266 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:51,922 read a Book of Enoch." 267 00:08:51,922 --> 00:08:53,402 >> NARRATOR: The Book of Enoch 268 00:08:53,402 --> 00:08:54,664 was excluded from the Bible and 269 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:55,926 is still considered 270 00:08:55,926 --> 00:08:57,362 controversial by many 271 00:08:57,362 --> 00:08:59,147 theologians. 272 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:01,453 But for von Daniken, it was 273 00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:03,543 proof of something much greater. 274 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,805 >> VON DANIKEN: It says that 275 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,981 Enoch was taken away from our 276 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:08,765 planet Earth by the Lord in a 277 00:09:08,765 --> 00:09:10,724 fiery chariot. 278 00:09:10,724 --> 00:09:13,553 Now, we knew nothing in the past 279 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:15,076 about flying machines. 280 00:09:15,076 --> 00:09:16,947 So, in religious terms, they say 281 00:09:16,947 --> 00:09:18,949 now he has his flight 282 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:20,385 into the heaven. 283 00:09:20,385 --> 00:09:23,127 But in my eyes, Enoch, he sees 284 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:24,781 something which in reality 285 00:09:24,781 --> 00:09:27,392 was a spaceship. 286 00:09:27,392 --> 00:09:28,611 >> NARRATOR: This omitted 287 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:29,917 account of Enoch's journey 288 00:09:29,917 --> 00:09:31,788 only raised more questions 289 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:32,963 for von Daniken. 290 00:09:32,963 --> 00:09:35,618 He turned his focus to the story 291 00:09:35,618 --> 00:09:37,925 of the biblical prophet Ezekiel. 292 00:09:37,925 --> 00:09:41,276 Like Enoch, Ezekiel is also 293 00:09:41,276 --> 00:09:44,409 taken away in a fiery vehicle, 294 00:09:44,409 --> 00:09:45,846 a vehicle he describes in great 295 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:47,891 technical detail in the pages of 296 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:50,111 the Old Testament. 297 00:09:50,111 --> 00:09:51,852 Von Daniken brought the strange 298 00:09:51,852 --> 00:09:53,462 texts to the attention. 299 00:09:53,462 --> 00:09:56,683 >> VON DANIKEN: So the priest 300 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:58,467 said, "Ezekiel has a vision." 301 00:09:58,467 --> 00:09:59,816 I said, "No, that's not the 302 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:01,209 vision because he describes 303 00:10:01,209 --> 00:10:03,515 the noise." 304 00:10:03,515 --> 00:10:04,778 He compares the noise with 305 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:05,779 the thundering of a waterfall. 306 00:10:05,779 --> 00:10:07,258 It's not a vision. 307 00:10:07,258 --> 00:10:08,477 It's something different. 308 00:10:08,477 --> 00:10:12,742 Something like rocket engines. 309 00:10:12,742 --> 00:10:14,962 Now we are talking about contact 310 00:10:14,962 --> 00:10:16,746 with extraterrestrials, space 311 00:10:16,746 --> 00:10:20,532 travel, so it all came together. 312 00:10:20,532 --> 00:10:21,838 >> CHILDRESS: Erich wasn't 313 00:10:21,838 --> 00:10:23,884 completely rejecting religion 314 00:10:23,884 --> 00:10:25,537 or the idea of God. 315 00:10:25,537 --> 00:10:27,539 Or even angels for that matter. 316 00:10:27,539 --> 00:10:28,932 He was looking at things 317 00:10:28,932 --> 00:10:30,804 differently but still keeping 318 00:10:30,804 --> 00:10:33,720 a certain spirituality and 319 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,026 knowledge of universal truths. 320 00:10:36,026 --> 00:10:38,289 >> VON DANIKEN: I have grown 321 00:10:38,289 --> 00:10:39,900 up as a Catholic, a Christian, 322 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:42,685 and I clearly say I am still one 323 00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:44,992 of these believers in God. 324 00:10:44,992 --> 00:10:47,037 I pray every evening. 325 00:10:47,037 --> 00:10:51,651 We will never lose God, never, 326 00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:53,696 when we deal with ancient 327 00:10:53,696 --> 00:10:55,567 when we deal with ancient astronauts. 328 00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:56,786 Astronauts. 329 00:10:56,786 --> 00:10:58,788 >> NARRATOR: Is it possible, 330 00:10:58,788 --> 00:11:00,616 as Erich von Daniken and other 331 00:11:00,616 --> 00:11:02,836 ancient astronaut researchers 332 00:11:02,836 --> 00:11:04,141 suggest, that the evidence for 333 00:11:04,141 --> 00:11:06,622 real-life close encounters can 334 00:11:06,622 --> 00:11:08,015 be found embedded in the pages 335 00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:09,669 of the Holy Bible? 336 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:12,367 It was a question that the Swiss 337 00:11:12,367 --> 00:11:13,760 teenager was determined 338 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,848 to answer. 339 00:11:14,848 --> 00:11:17,589 And his search now took him to 340 00:11:17,589 --> 00:11:19,591 the Egyptian desert and the 341 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:23,465 mysterious structures known... 342 00:11:23,465 --> 00:11:25,554 mysterious structures known... as the Great Pyramids. 343 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:32,692 As the Great Pyramids. 344 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:34,215 >> NARRATOR: Northeastern Egypt, 345 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:37,566 >> NARRATOR: Northeastern Egypt, 1954. 346 00:11:37,566 --> 00:11:40,482 1954. 347 00:11:40,482 --> 00:11:42,832 At the age of 19, Erich von. 348 00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:46,053 Daniken traveled to Giza, 349 00:11:46,053 --> 00:11:49,056 three miles from Cairo. 350 00:11:49,056 --> 00:11:50,884 There he could examine the 351 00:11:50,884 --> 00:11:55,453 Egyptian pyramids firsthand. 352 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:56,933 >> VON DANIKEN: I visited Egypt 353 00:11:56,933 --> 00:11:58,543 for the first time when I was, 354 00:11:58,543 --> 00:11:59,719 well, a youngster. 355 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,198 That was long before Chariots 356 00:12:01,198 --> 00:12:03,200 of the Gods. 357 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,724 And it impressed me 358 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:06,334 very, very much. 359 00:12:06,334 --> 00:12:07,727 I always had the feeling this 360 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:10,686 is not only done by humans. 361 00:12:10,686 --> 00:12:12,035 Somebody must have done 362 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:13,341 the planning. 363 00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:17,780 Of course, I learned at that 364 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:20,348 time that archaeology says 365 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:22,045 this building is made by a 366 00:12:22,045 --> 00:12:24,091 pharaoh with the name of Cheops. 367 00:12:24,091 --> 00:12:27,268 I asked, "Where does the name. 368 00:12:27,268 --> 00:12:28,660 Cheops come from?" 369 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:29,879 Because we don't have a statue 370 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:31,272 of Cheops. 371 00:12:31,272 --> 00:12:32,752 We don't have a mummy of Cheops. 372 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:35,232 You would think if somebody 373 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:36,799 makes this gigantic building 374 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,192 like the Great Pyramid, he would 375 00:12:38,192 --> 00:12:40,063 be proud and he would say, 376 00:12:40,063 --> 00:12:41,935 "Hey, I did it. I was the one 377 00:12:41,935 --> 00:12:43,197 who constructed this." 378 00:12:43,197 --> 00:12:45,112 But the Great Pyramid is the 379 00:12:45,112 --> 00:12:48,115 total anonymity. 380 00:12:48,115 --> 00:12:49,507 >> PHILLIP COPPENS: The. 381 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:50,900 Great Pyramid has always 382 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,380 intrigued the ancient alien 383 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:53,773 theory for a number of reasons. 384 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:55,426 It's the last surviving wonder 385 00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:56,993 of the ancient world, and nobody 386 00:12:56,993 --> 00:12:58,560 has been able to explain how 387 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,736 precisely it was built. 388 00:13:00,736 --> 00:13:03,608 Erich is not saying that aliens 389 00:13:03,608 --> 00:13:04,827 built it. 390 00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:06,524 Erich is saying that the 391 00:13:06,524 --> 00:13:07,830 pyramids, specifically the Great. 392 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:10,702 Pyramid, the way it is explained 393 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:12,052 by academics today does not fit 394 00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:13,880 with what his research 395 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,883 is indicating. 396 00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:18,885 >> NARRATOR: The puzzling way in 397 00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:19,842 which the Great Pyramid was 398 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:22,845 constructed and the mystery 399 00:13:22,845 --> 00:13:25,065 surrounding its purpose, served 400 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:26,675 to fuel both the Swiss 401 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:28,503 teenager's curiosity and 402 00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:30,026 his imagination. 403 00:13:30,026 --> 00:13:32,376 Could it be that everything his 404 00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:33,813 teachers had told him about 405 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:37,860 ancient civilizations was false? 406 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,819 >> NOORY: The pyramids in Egypt 407 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,385 are probably one of the greatest 408 00:13:41,385 --> 00:13:43,561 wonders of this planet. 409 00:13:43,561 --> 00:13:45,912 Some people say that they're, 410 00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:47,914 you know, landing marks for 411 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:50,351 extraterrestrials, power plants, 412 00:13:50,351 --> 00:13:54,007 stabilizers for the planet 413 00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,923 creating energy waves. 414 00:13:56,923 --> 00:14:00,056 There's no doubt that somebody 415 00:14:00,056 --> 00:14:01,928 had to provide the information 416 00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:03,755 to help get this thing built 417 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:05,018 because they're just too 418 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:09,022 immense, they're too accurate. 419 00:14:09,022 --> 00:14:11,111 >> TSOUKALOS: There is 420 00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:13,243 absolutely no question that 421 00:14:13,243 --> 00:14:15,289 the Great Pyramids of Giza 422 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:17,421 were built by human beings. 423 00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:19,641 The ancient Egyptians did it. 424 00:14:19,641 --> 00:14:21,948 However, what the ancient 425 00:14:21,948 --> 00:14:24,124 Egyptian texts also tell us, 426 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,126 that the ancient Egyptians did 427 00:14:26,126 --> 00:14:27,954 build the pyramids, but with the 428 00:14:27,954 --> 00:14:29,956 assistance of the Guardians of 429 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:32,567 the Sky. 430 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,830 >> NARRATOR: Was it possible the 431 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:35,962 early Egyptians had received 432 00:14:35,962 --> 00:14:38,138 otherworldly knowledge in order 433 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:39,966 to construct the Great Pyramid 434 00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:41,010 of Giza? 435 00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:44,535 And if so, could proof be found 436 00:14:44,535 --> 00:14:45,885 by examining other 437 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,756 by examining other archaeological sites? 438 00:14:47,756 --> 00:14:50,759 Archaeological sites? 439 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,849 1971... 440 00:14:53,849 --> 00:14:56,025 Eastern India. 441 00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:59,463 It was here, at the Sanskrit. 442 00:14:59,463 --> 00:15:02,031 College in Calcutta, that Erich 443 00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:03,598 von Daniken met with Professor. 444 00:15:03,598 --> 00:15:06,035 Dileep Kanjilal to study the. 445 00:15:06,035 --> 00:15:08,646 Vedic Sanskrit, an ancient 446 00:15:08,646 --> 00:15:10,344 language used in religious. 447 00:15:10,344 --> 00:15:12,520 Hindu texts. 448 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,869 >> VON DANIKEN: Professor Dileep. 449 00:15:13,869 --> 00:15:16,916 Kanjilal has gone through old 450 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,874 Indian texts and made modern 451 00:15:18,874 --> 00:15:20,920 versions of it. 452 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,182 Now, it comes out in the old 453 00:15:22,182 --> 00:15:24,880 books, the so-called gods, they 454 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,361 used flying machines to travel 455 00:15:27,361 --> 00:15:29,102 from heaven to Earth. 456 00:15:29,102 --> 00:15:30,538 >> TSOUKALOS: According to the 457 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:32,583 ancient Vedic texts of India, 458 00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:35,325 the gods descended from the sky 459 00:15:35,325 --> 00:15:37,327 in flying vehicles. 460 00:15:37,327 --> 00:15:39,851 They refer to those vehicles 461 00:15:39,851 --> 00:15:43,116 as "vimanas." 462 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:44,944 There are very detailed 463 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:46,989 descriptions: What these vimanas 464 00:15:46,989 --> 00:15:48,860 looked like, how they traveled 465 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:50,253 from place to place, what was 466 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:51,907 necessary in order to pilot 467 00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:53,604 them, all those things are 468 00:15:53,604 --> 00:15:55,998 described in ancient Hindu texts 469 00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:59,088 that are thousands of years old. 470 00:15:59,088 --> 00:16:01,177 >> CHILDRESS: And for Erich, 471 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:02,962 he naturally felt that these 472 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,746 vimanas were real nuts-and- 473 00:16:04,746 --> 00:16:06,966 bolts aircraft. 474 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,794 And of course, he's saying 475 00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:11,318 these are the vehicles of the 476 00:16:11,318 --> 00:16:12,972 ancient astronauts. 477 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,277 >> TSOUKALOS: When Erich first 478 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,105 went to India, he explored 479 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:17,280 a whole bunch of different 480 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,021 sites, and he quickly 481 00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:20,588 came to the realization that 482 00:16:20,588 --> 00:16:22,677 India is a treasure trove for 483 00:16:22,677 --> 00:16:25,549 the ancient astronaut theory, 484 00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:27,247 because all over India, we can 485 00:16:27,247 --> 00:16:29,989 find these magnificent temple 486 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:33,079 towers that are referred to as 487 00:16:33,079 --> 00:16:37,126 "stupas" and also "vimanas." 488 00:16:37,126 --> 00:16:40,260 And so we have to ask ourselves, 489 00:16:40,260 --> 00:16:42,001 where did the form 490 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:45,004 for a stupa come from? 491 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,135 >> COPPENS: Another great 492 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:47,658 contribution of Erich is that 493 00:16:47,658 --> 00:16:49,008 he focused on India. 494 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,270 Very few people had really 495 00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:52,011 studied the ancient Indian 496 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:53,012 civilization, even though it is 497 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,014 thousands of years old. 498 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:57,016 And what he saw there were 499 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,931 structures which were alleged to 500 00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:03,326 have been replicas of vimanas. 501 00:17:03,326 --> 00:17:04,762 >> VON DANIKEN: So many Hindu 502 00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:07,635 temple in the Far East, they are 503 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:09,071 representations in their 504 00:17:09,071 --> 00:17:11,334 architecture what was going up 505 00:17:11,334 --> 00:17:12,770 in the sky. 506 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:15,904 So the upper part of a Hindu 507 00:17:15,904 --> 00:17:17,645 temple often is seen as a flying 508 00:17:17,645 --> 00:17:20,778 object, as a vimana. 509 00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:22,041 >> COPPENS: And basically what 510 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:24,304 we're being confronted with is 511 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:26,349 the realization that these 512 00:17:26,349 --> 00:17:28,656 people built in stone objects 513 00:17:28,656 --> 00:17:29,961 which they seem to have seen 514 00:17:29,961 --> 00:17:31,963 in the sky. 515 00:17:31,963 --> 00:17:33,748 >> MARTELL: When we look at the 516 00:17:33,748 --> 00:17:35,358 most ancient records we have, 517 00:17:35,358 --> 00:17:36,838 coming out of the Vedic texts in 518 00:17:36,838 --> 00:17:38,361 India, there are clear 519 00:17:38,361 --> 00:17:40,755 descriptions of aerial battles 520 00:17:40,755 --> 00:17:42,757 taking place with vimanas. 521 00:17:42,757 --> 00:17:44,367 So this really starts to raise 522 00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:46,152 the question about our own cycle 523 00:17:46,152 --> 00:17:48,632 of history. 524 00:17:48,632 --> 00:17:50,547 Is it completely linear? 525 00:17:50,547 --> 00:17:51,896 Or is it possible that we're 526 00:17:51,896 --> 00:17:53,376 just starting to rediscover 527 00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:57,554 exist thousands of years ago? 528 00:17:57,554 --> 00:17:59,034 >> CHILDRESS: Ancient texts all 529 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:01,863 over the world talk about flying 530 00:18:01,863 --> 00:18:04,953 vehicles, people who could fly 531 00:18:04,953 --> 00:18:10,176 through the air, flying horses. 532 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:12,439 But it was Erich who really put 533 00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:14,093 it together. 534 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:15,442 That the gods weren't just 535 00:18:15,442 --> 00:18:17,444 flying around like Superman; 536 00:18:17,444 --> 00:18:20,142 They had to get into some kind 537 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:23,450 of nuts-and-bolts craft, just 538 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:27,193 like we do, and go somewhere. 539 00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:29,978 And this was the chariots of the 540 00:18:29,978 --> 00:18:32,111 gods. 541 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:33,503 >> VON DANIKEN: Enoch tells us 542 00:18:33,503 --> 00:18:35,288 about the Guardians of the Sky 543 00:18:35,288 --> 00:18:37,333 who came down. 544 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:40,728 He says they are called fallen 545 00:18:40,728 --> 00:18:43,078 angels and they wanted to have 546 00:18:43,078 --> 00:18:46,168 sex with humans, and the 547 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:50,520 offspring of it were giants. 548 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,697 So there were sexual contacts 549 00:18:53,697 --> 00:18:55,351 between extraterrestrials and 550 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:57,527 the humans. 551 00:18:57,527 --> 00:18:58,528 >> TSOUKALOS: What does this 552 00:18:58,528 --> 00:18:59,616 mean? 553 00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:01,140 Well, it's very simple. 554 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,663 Erich von Daniken's 555 00:19:02,663 --> 00:19:04,926 interpretation was, we are 556 00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:07,798 nothing else but hybrids of an 557 00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:09,931 extraterrestrial race that 558 00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:12,020 jump-started our civilization 559 00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,327 thousands and thousands of years 560 00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:17,895 ago. 561 00:19:17,895 --> 00:19:20,376 And that extraterrestrials, in. 562 00:19:20,376 --> 00:19:24,075 And that extraterrestrials, in fact, gave us intelligence. 563 00:19:24,075 --> 00:19:26,991 Fact, gave us intelligence. 564 00:19:26,991 --> 00:19:31,170 Homo sapiens existed for 250,000 565 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,346 years. 566 00:19:33,346 --> 00:19:35,913 But only in the last 50,000 567 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:40,004 years, this quantum leap all of 568 00:19:40,004 --> 00:19:42,790 a sudden happened where we went 569 00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:45,184 from munching bananas in a cave 570 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,403 to essentially building 571 00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:51,277 civilizations. 572 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:52,147 >> COPPENS: Science is holding 573 00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:54,193 out great hope and expectation 574 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,237 that at one point they will find 575 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:56,673 this missing link between 576 00:19:56,673 --> 00:19:58,806 everything else on Planet Earth 577 00:19:58,806 --> 00:20:00,199 and us. 578 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,417 But despite looking for over 150 579 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:03,202 years, they haven't come any 580 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,421 closer. 581 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,031 The answer might be found in 582 00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:08,207 what our ancestors have always 583 00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:09,686 said, which is that we have been 584 00:20:09,686 --> 00:20:11,949 made by the gods, that we are 585 00:20:11,949 --> 00:20:13,516 not like anything else here on. 586 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:14,561 Planet Earth. 587 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:16,345 We stand out, because we have 588 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:18,739 been created. 589 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:20,915 >> LINDA MOULTON HOWE: As we 590 00:20:20,915 --> 00:20:22,482 look at the whole history of 591 00:20:22,482 --> 00:20:25,311 this planet, there is this huge 592 00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:28,749 question. 593 00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:31,969 How many advanced intelligences 594 00:20:31,969 --> 00:20:33,536 have been on this planet maybe 595 00:20:33,536 --> 00:20:37,105 for millions of years, 596 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:39,281 terraforming, manipulating 597 00:20:39,281 --> 00:20:41,892 genes in all kinds of life, and 598 00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:44,591 that maybe even modern human 599 00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:46,767 is one of those manipulated 600 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:50,031 genetic creations. 601 00:20:50,031 --> 00:20:51,772 >> BAUVAL: Imagine all the 602 00:20:51,772 --> 00:20:53,556 knowledge human beings 603 00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:54,557 possessed. 604 00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:57,168 Astronomy, mathematics, 605 00:20:57,168 --> 00:21:00,781 engineering and writing, were 606 00:21:00,781 --> 00:21:02,913 brought down from heaven by the 607 00:21:02,913 --> 00:21:04,045 gods. 608 00:21:04,045 --> 00:21:05,829 It does raise the question, is. 609 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:08,571 Daniken right? 610 00:21:08,571 --> 00:21:10,921 Because even if there is the 611 00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:12,793 faintest possibility, a chance 612 00:21:12,793 --> 00:21:15,143 in a million, a chance in ten 613 00:21:15,143 --> 00:21:17,188 million that he is right, then 614 00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:19,147 everything changes. 615 00:21:19,147 --> 00:21:20,279 >> NARRATOR: Do ancient 616 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,150 religious texts really provide 617 00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:24,326 evidence of alien contact with 618 00:21:24,326 --> 00:21:27,286 cultures throughout history? 619 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,897 Chariots of the Godshad 620 00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:31,028 opened the door to much 621 00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:33,161 discussion, speculation, and 622 00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:34,684 criticism. 623 00:21:34,684 --> 00:21:36,469 But its enormous success also 624 00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:38,427 gave the Swiss writer the 625 00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,299 ability to travel the world in 626 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,692 search of more answers. 627 00:21:42,692 --> 00:21:44,607 It was a search that would take 628 00:21:44,607 --> 00:21:47,218 him halfway across the globe, to 629 00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:49,656 see firsthand the ancient 630 00:21:49,656 --> 00:21:51,832 see firsthand the ancient ruins of South America. 631 00:21:51,832 --> 00:21:58,578 Ruins of South America. 632 00:21:58,578 --> 00:21:59,492 >> NARRATOR: Bolivia, South. 633 00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,102 America. 634 00:22:01,102 --> 00:22:03,539 Here lie the ruins of Puma. 635 00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:05,454 Punku, a mysterious temple 636 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,717 complex located in the ancient 637 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:10,111 city of Tiahuanaco. 638 00:22:10,111 --> 00:22:11,330 It is believed to have been 639 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:16,291 built about 2,000 years ago. 640 00:22:16,291 --> 00:22:18,467 The year he published his 641 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:20,121 bestselling book Chariots of 642 00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:22,341 the Gods, author Erich von. 643 00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:24,299 Daniken made a pilgrimage to 644 00:22:24,299 --> 00:22:26,345 this archaeological site for 645 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,347 more proof of his controversial 646 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:31,262 theory that extraterrestrial 647 00:22:31,262 --> 00:22:32,699 beings had visited Earth in the 648 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:34,918 beings had visited Earth in the distant past. 649 00:22:34,918 --> 00:22:36,006 Distant past. 650 00:22:36,006 --> 00:22:37,356 >> VON DANIKEN: Puma Punku is in 651 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:38,618 the highland of Bolivia. 652 00:22:38,618 --> 00:22:40,271 You stand there and you are 653 00:22:40,271 --> 00:22:41,795 absolutely shocked. 654 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:44,493 There are gigantic platforms 655 00:22:44,493 --> 00:22:45,842 laying around. 656 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:48,497 At that time, in 1968, there was 657 00:22:48,497 --> 00:22:50,020 no archaeological work done up 658 00:22:50,020 --> 00:22:53,546 there. 659 00:22:53,546 --> 00:22:54,373 >> MARTELL: When Erich von. 660 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,462 Daniken arrived at Puma Punku, 661 00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:58,507 here he found evidence, clearly, 662 00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:01,380 of lost high technology. 663 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,426 We see laser-perfection drilled 664 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:07,081 holes, stone that has been 665 00:23:07,081 --> 00:23:08,691 somehow liquefied, or almost 666 00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:10,389 kind of made vitrified, and 667 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,260 stuck together. 668 00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:13,522 This is not possible without the. 669 00:23:13,522 --> 00:23:17,221 This is not possible without the use of high technology. 670 00:23:17,221 --> 00:23:18,571 Use of high technology. 671 00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:19,876 >> CHILDRESS: Erich was able 672 00:23:19,876 --> 00:23:22,270 to see these "H" blocks. 673 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:25,534 They're big granite blocks all 674 00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:28,450 articulated and cut as if they 675 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,845 were pre-manufactured, and in 676 00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:33,368 such a way that they would fit 677 00:23:33,368 --> 00:23:36,371 together and create these giant 678 00:23:36,371 --> 00:23:38,721 walls. 679 00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:42,290 It was such a high-tech kind of 680 00:23:42,290 --> 00:23:45,859 construction that it boggled 681 00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:48,818 everyone's mind. 682 00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:50,124 >> COPPENS: So what we have in. 683 00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:51,430 Puma Punku is the traditional... 684 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:52,735 What I would say Erich von. 685 00:23:52,735 --> 00:23:54,520 Daniken tackling archaeology. 686 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,000 There is, within the methodology 687 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,871 of how these stones were 688 00:23:57,871 --> 00:24:00,656 constructed, a certain degree of 689 00:24:00,656 --> 00:24:02,353 difficulty which our ancestors 690 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,399 simply never attained in the 691 00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:05,444 surrounding landscape of. 692 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,228 Tiahuanaco. 693 00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:09,578 Stone carvers basically told him 694 00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:11,362 that it was almost impossible 695 00:24:11,362 --> 00:24:13,452 or extremely difficult to create 696 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:14,844 these artifacts, and that 697 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:16,324 specifically why they would be 698 00:24:16,324 --> 00:24:18,326 doing it is something which 699 00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:20,720 doing it is something which really defies explanation. 700 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,417 Really defies explanation. 701 00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:23,462 >> NARRATOR: Another aspect of. 702 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,202 Puma Punku that captivated 703 00:24:25,202 --> 00:24:27,422 von Daniken was the legend of 704 00:24:27,422 --> 00:24:30,207 its creation, as put forward by 705 00:24:30,207 --> 00:24:31,470 the indigenous people of the 706 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,210 region. 707 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:33,950 >> TSOUKALOS: The population 708 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,212 living there are called the. 709 00:24:35,212 --> 00:24:36,387 Aymara. 710 00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:38,389 And the Aymara themselves say 711 00:24:38,389 --> 00:24:40,957 that they had no involvement in 712 00:24:40,957 --> 00:24:43,438 building Puma Punku. 713 00:24:43,438 --> 00:24:45,527 In fact, when you ask them who 714 00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,311 built Puma Punku, they will 715 00:24:47,311 --> 00:24:50,010 point to the sky and they will 716 00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:51,098 say, "Los Dioses." 717 00:24:51,098 --> 00:24:54,797 The gods. 718 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:56,495 >> VON DANIKEN: In Puma Punk 719 00:24:56,495 --> 00:25:00,281 they say, "The gods constructed 720 00:25:00,281 --> 00:25:02,631 the place in one night." 721 00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:04,415 This makes sense. 722 00:25:04,415 --> 00:25:05,504 You have an extraterrestrial 723 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,506 crew, they come down to Earth. 724 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,552 So they construct with their 725 00:25:10,552 --> 00:25:13,033 tools just something which we 726 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,339 would call today a basic camp. 727 00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:17,037 They behaved themselves like 728 00:25:17,037 --> 00:25:18,342 archaeologists would do: They 729 00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:19,343 learn. 730 00:25:19,343 --> 00:25:21,345 They teach a little to humans, 731 00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:22,390 they learn their language... 732 00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,740 One day they disappeared, 733 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,089 their job is over. 734 00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:27,743 They take all their instruments 735 00:25:27,743 --> 00:25:31,138 back to the mother spaceship, 736 00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:33,357 and left are only a few ruins of 737 00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:37,144 the basic camp. 738 00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:38,624 >> NARRATOR: Was Puma Punku 739 00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:40,147 really a base camp for 740 00:25:40,147 --> 00:25:41,670 extraterrestrials that visited. 741 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:44,368 Earth in the distant past? 742 00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:46,414 And were the magnificent stones 743 00:25:46,414 --> 00:25:47,763 that make up the ruins made with 744 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,809 the help of advanced building 745 00:25:49,809 --> 00:25:51,898 methods? 746 00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:54,074 For Erich von Daniken the answer 747 00:25:54,074 --> 00:25:56,859 was clearly "yes," and it 748 00:25:56,859 --> 00:25:58,469 compelled him to continue his 749 00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:01,951 search nearly 3,000 miles away 750 00:26:01,951 --> 00:26:04,127 at the ruins of another ancient 751 00:26:04,127 --> 00:26:07,522 at the ruins of another ancient city. 752 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:10,569 City. 753 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:14,921 Chichén Itzá, Mexico. 754 00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:16,400 Located on the Yucatán. 755 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,533 Peninsula are the ruins of an 756 00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:20,535 ancient Mayan city that thrived 757 00:26:20,535 --> 00:26:24,408 ancient Mayan city that thrived from 750 to 1200 A.D. 758 00:26:24,408 --> 00:26:26,585 from 750 to 1200 A.D. 759 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,500 It was here, in 1969, 760 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:30,632 that Erich von Daniken had 761 00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:33,156 an amazing realization involving 762 00:26:33,156 --> 00:26:34,593 the city's central pyramid of El 763 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:37,030 the city's central pyramid of El Castillo. 764 00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:39,510 Castillo. 765 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:40,511 >> VON DANIKEN: I was standing 766 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:41,512 before this great pyramid. 767 00:26:41,512 --> 00:26:42,513 I understood nothing. 768 00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:44,646 I took every possible literature 769 00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:46,517 from Central American 770 00:26:46,517 --> 00:26:47,736 archaeologists to learn what's 771 00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,173 archaeologists to learn what's this all about. 772 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:58,486 This all about. 773 00:26:58,486 --> 00:27:01,271 And then I learned again, 774 00:27:01,271 --> 00:27:04,535 they are talking of visitors 775 00:27:04,535 --> 00:27:05,580 from outside. 776 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,756 From outside. Of course they call them gods. 777 00:27:07,756 --> 00:27:09,584 Of course they call them gods. 778 00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:10,585 >> TSOUKALOS: According to the 779 00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:11,586 ancient Mayan myths, their main 780 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:13,632 deity was Quetzalcoatl or. 781 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,546 Kukulkan, Gukumatz. 782 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:16,504 All those different names for 783 00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:18,114 the exact same deity, which was 784 00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:20,029 described to be a winged or a 785 00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:21,291 flying serpent, or a flying 786 00:27:21,291 --> 00:27:23,424 flying serpent, or a flying snake. 787 00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:25,295 Snake. 788 00:27:25,295 --> 00:27:26,775 Whatever it was that they saw 789 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:28,603 up in the sky could best be 790 00:27:28,603 --> 00:27:32,563 described as a flying snake. 791 00:27:32,563 --> 00:27:34,174 >> COPPENS: When we're looking 792 00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:35,697 across the world, Chichén Itzá 793 00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:37,830 is a very important location. 794 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:39,527 It is one of those places where 795 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,224 it is said that the gods 796 00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:43,574 descended to and decreed a fate 797 00:27:43,574 --> 00:27:45,228 of mankind. 798 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:47,796 And there is one specific 799 00:27:47,796 --> 00:27:49,450 pyramid, El Castillo, the 800 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:51,452 castle, where you see an 801 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:53,062 intricate light show happening 802 00:27:53,062 --> 00:27:55,543 on specifically the equinoxes, 803 00:27:55,543 --> 00:27:59,678 March 21 and September 21. 804 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:00,809 >> VON DANIKEN: In the early 805 00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:02,681 morning you see the sun rising 806 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,465 up, and while the sun goes up, 807 00:28:04,465 --> 00:28:06,946 you see on the stairway, light 808 00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:10,079 and shadow, triangles of light 809 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:11,124 and shadow. 810 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:12,691 They are produced because of the 811 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:13,692 nine platforms. 812 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,650 The light and shadow triangles 813 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:18,784 slowly go down the step to the 814 00:28:18,784 --> 00:28:20,699 pyramid until the sun is up 815 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:21,569 there. 816 00:28:21,569 --> 00:28:23,745 The message is absolutely clear. 817 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:27,706 God Kukulkan visited the earth 818 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:30,186 and disappeared again with the 819 00:28:30,186 --> 00:28:34,190 promise to return in a faraway 820 00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:35,539 future. 821 00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:37,498 So they have given this whole 822 00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:38,717 information of the return of the 823 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:41,763 gods into their temple. 824 00:28:41,763 --> 00:28:43,504 >> COPPENS: And I think this is 825 00:28:43,504 --> 00:28:44,548 one of the great things which. 826 00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:45,724 Erich has done, not just 827 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,334 in the story of Chichén Itzá, 828 00:28:47,334 --> 00:28:49,118 but of so many other aspects on 829 00:28:49,118 --> 00:28:50,685 other places in this world as 830 00:28:50,685 --> 00:28:51,904 well. 831 00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:53,644 Whereby he focuses on certain 832 00:28:53,644 --> 00:28:54,820 details and says, look, this is 833 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,647 important. 834 00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:57,997 This is a detail which is 835 00:28:57,997 --> 00:28:59,781 extremely difficult to create. 836 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,478 This is something which 837 00:29:01,478 --> 00:29:02,523 traditional archaeology tends to 838 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:04,220 overlook. 839 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:05,526 >> NARRATOR: By making a 840 00:29:05,526 --> 00:29:06,962 connection between the ancient. 841 00:29:06,962 --> 00:29:08,572 Mayas' knowledge of astronomy 842 00:29:08,572 --> 00:29:10,661 and their precise architecture, 843 00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,620 Erich von Daniken was convinced 844 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:14,578 that there was much more to his 845 00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:16,580 ancient alien hypothesis than he 846 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:18,582 had imagined. 847 00:29:18,582 --> 00:29:20,584 For further proof he looked to 848 00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:22,717 another Mayan temple. 849 00:29:22,717 --> 00:29:24,545 One that housed what some say 850 00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:27,548 was the first ancient astronaut. 851 00:29:27,548 --> 00:29:28,941 Lord Pakal. 852 00:29:28,941 --> 00:29:30,856 >> CHILDRESS: At the ancient 853 00:29:30,856 --> 00:29:32,988 Mayan city of Palenque was a 854 00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:35,686 tomb that was discovered in 855 00:29:35,686 --> 00:29:38,733 the 1950s. 856 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:41,823 And inside this tomb was a lid 857 00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:44,304 on the sarcophagus for Lord. 858 00:29:44,304 --> 00:29:47,350 Pakal. 859 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,700 And that lid is, is very highly 860 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,661 decorated with a picture of Lord. 861 00:29:53,661 --> 00:29:54,705 Pakal. 862 00:29:54,705 --> 00:29:56,011 And in that picture he's doing 863 00:29:56,011 --> 00:29:58,709 some really unusual things. 864 00:29:58,709 --> 00:29:59,798 >> VON DANIKEN: You see a man 865 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,626 bending forward, almost like a 866 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:04,672 racing motorcyclist. 867 00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:06,630 He has his nose on some kind of 868 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:08,371 oxygen mask. 869 00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:10,678 He uses his upper hand to 870 00:30:10,678 --> 00:30:11,810 manipulate the knob. 871 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,202 You see his lower hand, he 872 00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:14,813 manipulates some controls. 873 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,989 He's sitting on a kind of chair. 874 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,687 In a sort of a capsule. 875 00:30:19,687 --> 00:30:21,907 >> CHILDRESS: When Erich looked 876 00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:25,127 at that lid, he saw a Mayan king 877 00:30:25,127 --> 00:30:26,694 in a rocket ship. 878 00:30:26,694 --> 00:30:28,696 And that guy was returning to 879 00:30:28,696 --> 00:30:30,263 the stars, going back into 880 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:31,481 space. 881 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:32,482 It was an exciting 882 00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:33,701 interpretation. 883 00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:34,833 And it was one of the main 884 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,704 things in Chariots of the Gods. 885 00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:38,097 And when other people looked at 886 00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:39,707 that lid and saw his 887 00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:43,102 explanation, they had to agree 888 00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:44,668 with him. 889 00:30:44,668 --> 00:30:46,583 >> NARRATOR: Could Erich von. 890 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:49,021 Daniken be correct? 891 00:30:49,021 --> 00:30:51,153 Was Lord Pakal really an 892 00:30:51,153 --> 00:30:52,851 extraterrestrial who visited. 893 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,766 Earth in the distant past? 894 00:30:55,766 --> 00:30:57,551 One who perhaps shared highly 895 00:30:57,551 --> 00:31:00,336 advanced knowledge with mankind? 896 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:02,599 After publishing his second 897 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,775 book, Gods from Outer Space, in 898 00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:07,866 1970, Erich von Daniken now 899 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,563 found himself caught in the 900 00:31:09,563 --> 00:31:11,521 crosshairs of a bitter fight 901 00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:13,480 between traditional science and 902 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,482 conventional religion, which 903 00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:17,353 denounced the notion that life 904 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:19,834 existed on other planets. 905 00:31:19,834 --> 00:31:21,836 It was a battle the author 906 00:31:21,836 --> 00:31:23,794 seemed ill-equipped to fight 907 00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:25,709 seemed ill-equipped to fight alone. 908 00:31:25,709 --> 00:31:31,063 Alone. 909 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:32,064 >> NARRATOR: In the more than 910 00:31:32,064 --> 00:31:33,065 four decades since the 911 00:31:33,065 --> 00:31:34,066 publication of Chariots of the. 912 00:31:34,066 --> 00:31:36,633 Gods, writer and researcher. 913 00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:38,853 Erich von Daniken has continued 914 00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:40,420 his search for the truth about 915 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:43,727 mankind's otherworldly origins. 916 00:31:43,727 --> 00:31:45,033 >> VON DANIKEN: I wish and I 917 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:46,469 hope that the society finally 918 00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,036 starts to take this proposition 919 00:31:48,036 --> 00:31:51,213 we make here serious, that the 920 00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:53,433 scientific community starts to 921 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:55,391 think in this way. 922 00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:57,132 But I have to exs one thing 923 00:31:57,132 --> 00:31:58,917 very clear: What I do here has 924 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,093 nothing to do with a new 925 00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:02,659 religion. 926 00:32:02,659 --> 00:32:05,793 I would turn myself in my tomb 927 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:07,751 if some idiots create a new 928 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,275 religion according to my 929 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:10,667 thinking. 930 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:12,104 This is the last thing I wish. 931 00:32:12,104 --> 00:32:16,935 Absolutely not. 932 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,458 >> NARRATOR: And joining Erich 933 00:32:18,458 --> 00:32:20,460 von Daniken has been a small but 934 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:21,940 growing number of what have 935 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,724 become known as ancient 936 00:32:23,724 --> 00:32:25,769 astronaut theorists... men and 937 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:27,510 women who have expanded and at 938 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:29,425 times refined von Daniken's 939 00:32:29,425 --> 00:32:31,427 findings. 940 00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:32,907 >> HOWE: I'm curious... 941 00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,082 How many people here 942 00:32:34,082 --> 00:32:35,823 have seen in their lifetime 943 00:32:35,823 --> 00:32:38,347 some unidentified aerial object 944 00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:39,958 in the sky? 945 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,655 How many? Hands. 946 00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:43,744 You represent what I think is a 947 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,746 slice of humanity everywhere 948 00:32:45,746 --> 00:32:48,183 because I am convinced that 949 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:50,359 telling the human family of this 950 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,535 planet the truth is probably 951 00:32:52,535 --> 00:32:53,972 what most souls are hungering 952 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:58,715 for. 953 00:32:58,715 --> 00:33:00,761 >> PAUL VON WARD: One of the 954 00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:02,589 things that we know about human 955 00:33:02,589 --> 00:33:04,547 behavior is that it is shaped by 956 00:33:04,547 --> 00:33:07,637 our world view, our paradigm, 957 00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:09,509 and I would suggest that this is 958 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:11,511 a very significant time to 959 00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,774 change this paradigm. 960 00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:16,603 We are not alone in the universe 961 00:33:16,603 --> 00:33:18,997 and that we are a part of this 962 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:21,608 bigger network of life. 963 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,392 >> TSOUKALOS: To me, personally 964 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:24,785 I think there is a paradigm 965 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:26,787 shift going on, and it's an 966 00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:29,355 incredibly positive movement 967 00:33:29,355 --> 00:33:31,661 because we're all in this 968 00:33:31,661 --> 00:33:34,708 together. 969 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:36,927 >> VON DANIKEN: We live in a 970 00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:39,713 society which I call reasonable. 971 00:33:39,713 --> 00:33:42,585 To be reasonable means to 972 00:33:42,585 --> 00:33:45,762 believe what the scientists say. 973 00:33:45,762 --> 00:33:48,809 So it's up to us; Just don't 974 00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:50,898 accept everything the reasonable 975 00:33:50,898 --> 00:33:52,900 ones say. 976 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,902 Please be unreasonable. 977 00:33:54,902 --> 00:34:01,082 I am unreasonable. 978 00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:02,257 >> CHILDRESS: What I've really 979 00:34:02,257 --> 00:34:03,867 liked about Erich is that he 980 00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:05,913 does bring up a lot of unusual 981 00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:07,567 ideas. 982 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:09,134 Uh, he points out 983 00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:11,788 inconsistencies in, uh, 984 00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:13,442 mainstream archaeology. 985 00:34:13,442 --> 00:34:15,923 I've never really bought into 986 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:18,404 all of Erich's conclusions, but 987 00:34:18,404 --> 00:34:20,232 I was always interested in it. 988 00:34:20,232 --> 00:34:23,365 So in many ways, he spurred me 989 00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,802 to go around the world... to 990 00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:27,804 remote islands, to unusual 991 00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:29,589 archaeological sites. 992 00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:31,286 I wanted to check them out for 993 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:32,331 myself. 994 00:34:32,331 --> 00:34:33,767 Now, all of his explanations 995 00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:35,334 weren't always the explanation 996 00:34:35,334 --> 00:34:36,987 I would have given, but it's 997 00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,728 what's leading me and other 998 00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,861 people down a certain track: 999 00:34:40,861 --> 00:34:42,210 Investigate this. 1000 00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:44,430 Go check it out for yourself. 1001 00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:47,215 Don't just take my word for it. 1002 00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:48,477 >> COPPENS: When I began to 1003 00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:50,871 explore ancient civilizations, 1004 00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:52,829 in a library in Belgium, I 1005 00:34:52,829 --> 00:34:54,744 stumbled upon a book by Erich 1006 00:34:54,744 --> 00:34:57,878 von Daniken, and I was hooked. 1007 00:34:57,878 --> 00:35:00,489 Because I think I was one of 1008 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:02,404 thousands, if not millions, of 1009 00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:04,406 people who began to realize that 1010 00:35:04,406 --> 00:35:06,365 ancient history wasn't 1011 00:35:06,365 --> 00:35:07,453 clear-cut. 1012 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,977 And he really, in me, began to 1013 00:35:09,977 --> 00:35:12,806 open up this exploratory 1014 00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:14,547 process, whereas I had always 1015 00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:15,635 been interested in recent 1016 00:35:15,635 --> 00:35:17,289 history, that really this 1017 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:19,726 mystery of the ancient world was 1018 00:35:19,726 --> 00:35:21,728 more complex, more beautiful and 1019 00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:23,512 more interesting. 1020 00:35:23,512 --> 00:35:25,601 And so in the last two decades, 1021 00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:27,777 Erich has informed me on my path 1022 00:35:27,777 --> 00:35:29,823 of saying: We need to explore, 1023 00:35:29,823 --> 00:35:31,738 we need to open up our minds 1024 00:35:31,738 --> 00:35:33,348 into trying to understand what 1025 00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:34,697 our ancient ancestors were 1026 00:35:34,697 --> 00:35:36,308 doing, because there are still 1027 00:35:36,308 --> 00:35:37,874 gigantic question marks as to 1028 00:35:37,874 --> 00:35:40,703 how our past has been created. 1029 00:35:40,703 --> 00:35:42,009 >> BAUVAL: We must be open to. 1030 00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:44,011 Erich von Daniken. 1031 00:35:44,011 --> 00:35:46,318 Daniken is the first man who... 1032 00:35:46,318 --> 00:35:48,494 gutsily came out and faced the 1033 00:35:48,494 --> 00:35:49,669 world in saying: I think it's 1034 00:35:49,669 --> 00:35:51,453 possible... that ancient 1035 00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:53,847 astronauts have come to visit 1036 00:35:53,847 --> 00:35:57,067 our planet, and the pyramids, 1037 00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:59,069 the various temples, all this 1038 00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:00,941 was perhaps remnants of their 1039 00:36:00,941 --> 00:36:04,510 visits. 1040 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:06,990 Now, I must say that I was a 1041 00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:08,514 great skeptic on the ancient 1042 00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:10,385 alien theory until recently. 1043 00:36:10,385 --> 00:36:11,865 Because everything has changed 1044 00:36:11,865 --> 00:36:13,736 for us skeptics. 1045 00:36:13,736 --> 00:36:15,521 For example, within the last 12 1046 00:36:15,521 --> 00:36:16,913 years we've looked at the little 1047 00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:19,438 patch of our galactic system, 1048 00:36:19,438 --> 00:36:20,743 which is the Milky Way, and so 1049 00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:23,050 far we've found 3,000 planets. 1050 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:24,486 When we extrapolate the 1051 00:36:24,486 --> 00:36:25,487 possibility over the whole 1052 00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:27,097 galactic system, it's estimated 1053 00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:28,447 that there must be about a 1054 00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:30,188 billion planets in our galaxy 1055 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,841 alone. 1056 00:36:31,841 --> 00:36:34,192 So the odds are extremely high 1057 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:36,846 of finding life out there. 1058 00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:38,892 [rocket rumbling] 1059 00:36:38,892 --> 00:36:40,850 Now, having said this, if we can 1060 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:42,417 go out there, why can't they 1061 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:43,592 come here? 1062 00:36:43,592 --> 00:36:45,551 We must be open to possibility 1063 00:36:45,551 --> 00:36:47,509 that life on this planet has 1064 00:36:47,509 --> 00:36:49,598 been touched by extraterrestrial 1065 00:36:49,598 --> 00:36:51,818 beings. 1066 00:36:51,818 --> 00:36:53,080 >> TSOUKALOS: Thanks to my 1067 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,169 grandmother, growing up, ideas 1068 00:36:55,169 --> 00:36:57,998 of ancient aliens and Atlantis 1069 00:36:57,998 --> 00:36:59,478 and all those alternative 1070 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,741 viewpoints on history, that was 1071 00:37:01,741 --> 00:37:03,525 dinner table conversation at my 1072 00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:05,527 house. 1073 00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:07,225 I grew up in Switzerland, and. 1074 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,878 Erich von Daniken was Swiss as 1075 00:37:08,878 --> 00:37:11,229 well, and so I started to attend 1076 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:14,493 his lectures, I read and studied 1077 00:37:14,493 --> 00:37:16,234 all of his books. 1078 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:19,802 I have been to places that Erich 1079 00:37:19,802 --> 00:37:21,630 has described. 1080 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,066 It has opened my mind to 1081 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:26,983 possibilities, because the big 1082 00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:29,986 point of Erich's books are the 1083 00:37:29,986 --> 00:37:31,031 questions. 1084 00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:34,252 What ifeverything in our past 1085 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:36,993 is not the way it's presented to 1086 00:37:36,993 --> 00:37:38,647 be? 1087 00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:41,563 What ifour planet was visited 1088 00:37:41,563 --> 00:37:42,912 by extraterrestrials in the 1089 00:37:42,912 --> 00:37:45,828 past? 1090 00:37:45,828 --> 00:37:48,222 That means that creation is even 1091 00:37:48,222 --> 00:37:50,224 more magnificent than what we're 1092 00:37:50,224 --> 00:37:53,140 being told, because the divine 1093 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,316 is permeating throughout the 1094 00:37:55,316 --> 00:37:58,101 entire universe, not just on. 1095 00:37:58,101 --> 00:38:01,627 Planet Earth. 1096 00:38:01,627 --> 00:38:04,282 In fact, Jesus himself said: My 1097 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:07,067 father's home has many rooms. 1098 00:38:07,067 --> 00:38:09,112 And so what if that was just a 1099 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:11,201 metaphor to suggest that the 1100 00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:14,248 universe houses a whole bunch of 1101 00:38:14,248 --> 00:38:17,077 different species, that the 1102 00:38:17,077 --> 00:38:19,775 universe is teeming with life 1103 00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:23,344 and we all belong to it? 1104 00:38:23,344 --> 00:38:24,824 >> NARRATOR: Although mainstream 1105 00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,347 scholars have so far refused to 1106 00:38:26,347 --> 00:38:28,175 acknowledge Erich von Daniken's 1107 00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:30,220 controversial theories as little 1108 00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:32,266 more than pseudoscience, his 1109 00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:34,355 exhaustive efforts on behalf of 1110 00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:36,314 ancient astronaut theory have 1111 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:39,012 started to gain acceptance... 1112 00:38:39,012 --> 00:38:40,796 Not in the hallowed halls of 1113 00:38:40,796 --> 00:38:43,103 academia... 1114 00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:45,888 but with ordinary citizens... 1115 00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:47,150 Men and women who, like the 1116 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,762 Swiss author himself, prefer to 1117 00:38:49,762 --> 00:38:52,112 ask their own questions... 1118 00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,114 even if it means challenging. 1119 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:56,725 Erich von Daniken himself. 1120 00:38:56,725 --> 00:38:58,205 >> The ancient alien hypothesis, 1121 00:38:58,205 --> 00:38:59,293 what did you purport 1122 00:38:59,293 --> 00:39:01,643 what did you purport that was wrong? 1123 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:05,255 That was wrong? 1124 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:07,040 >> CROWD: Five! Four! Three! 1125 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,171 Two! One! 1126 00:39:08,171 --> 00:39:09,172 [cheering] 1127 00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:12,828 [rumbling] 1128 00:39:12,828 --> 00:39:14,003 >> NARRATOR: At a time when we 1129 00:39:14,003 --> 00:39:15,831 have just begun to explore Mars 1130 00:39:15,831 --> 00:39:18,051 and look forward to an era when 1131 00:39:18,051 --> 00:39:21,054 space travel is commonplace, 1132 00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:22,447 might we find the answers to the 1133 00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:24,492 questions mankind has been 1134 00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:27,190 asking for centuries? 1135 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:28,801 Who are we? 1136 00:39:28,801 --> 00:39:31,107 Why are we here? 1137 00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:32,544 >> CHILDRESS: We're gonna go 1138 00:39:32,544 --> 00:39:33,849 back to the moon, and we're 1139 00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:35,851 gonna go to Mars, and so once we 1140 00:39:35,851 --> 00:39:38,071 become, ourselves, a 1141 00:39:38,071 --> 00:39:40,595 space-faring people, the idea 1142 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:41,901 of ancient astronauts coming 1143 00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:43,642 here will be even more accepted, 1144 00:39:43,642 --> 00:39:45,426 I think. 1145 00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:47,123 >> COPPENS: It takes decades, 1146 00:39:47,123 --> 00:39:48,473 sometimes centuries, before a 1147 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,257 paradigm is changed. 1148 00:39:50,257 --> 00:39:51,693 And I think what's going to be 1149 00:39:51,693 --> 00:39:53,652 shown in the next decade is that 1150 00:39:53,652 --> 00:39:55,480 society as a whole is going to 1151 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,220 explore this. 1152 00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:59,092 And I think Erich is going to be 1153 00:39:59,092 --> 00:40:00,572 perceived as really the 1154 00:40:00,572 --> 00:40:02,182 instigator of this all, the man 1155 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:04,010 who was able to pose the 1156 00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:05,751 question in such a way that it 1157 00:40:05,751 --> 00:40:07,927 became acceptable for the people 1158 00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:09,581 of the world to really ponder 1159 00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:11,017 it. 1160 00:40:11,017 --> 00:40:12,105 >> REDFERN: We have to bear in 1161 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,281 mind that he was talking about 1162 00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:16,414 ancient astronaut stuff nearly 1163 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,154 50 years ago and people are 1164 00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:19,155 still talking about it to this 1165 00:40:19,155 --> 00:40:21,157 day. 1166 00:40:21,157 --> 00:40:22,463 The important thing is, if there 1167 00:40:22,463 --> 00:40:24,987 was nothing to his work... the 1168 00:40:24,987 --> 00:40:26,467 whole phenomena would have died 1169 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,426 a death. 1170 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:29,644 >> NARRATOR: Did ancient 1171 00:40:29,644 --> 00:40:31,951 astronauts really come to Planet. 1172 00:40:31,951 --> 00:40:33,474 Earth? 1173 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:35,041 And if so, what was their 1174 00:40:35,041 --> 00:40:37,478 purpose? 1175 00:40:37,478 --> 00:40:40,089 And perhaps even more important, 1176 00:40:40,089 --> 00:40:42,440 will they come again? 1177 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,051 >> CHILDRESS: These highly 1178 00:40:45,051 --> 00:40:48,010 developed people, with high 1179 00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:50,404 technology, high civilization, 1180 00:40:50,404 --> 00:40:52,450 would interact with these 1181 00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:56,062 primitive humans and show them 1182 00:40:56,062 --> 00:40:58,630 certthings, including 1183 00:40:58,630 --> 00:41:00,849 agriculture and building 1184 00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:03,286 techniques and how to live 1185 00:41:03,286 --> 00:41:06,333 together in harmony in order to 1186 00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:08,770 try to develop civilization and 1187 00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:12,165 bring us to a higher state, and 1188 00:41:12,165 --> 00:41:13,775 the state that we're living in 1189 00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:15,777 today. 1190 00:41:15,777 --> 00:41:17,300 >> The ancient alien hypothesis, 1191 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:19,128 what have you jettisoned in the 1192 00:41:19,128 --> 00:41:20,695 intervening time? 1193 00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:21,696 What did you purport that was 1194 00:41:21,696 --> 00:41:22,697 wrong, and what have you 1195 00:41:22,697 --> 00:41:23,698 revised? 1196 00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:24,917 >> VON DANIKEN: Of course, when 1197 00:41:24,917 --> 00:41:26,832 I was young I was enthusiastic, 1198 00:41:26,832 --> 00:41:29,487 and I was not so proper in 1199 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,489 researching, so there were a 1200 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,491 few things which I had to learn 1201 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,101 I was wrong. 1202 00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,276 And then you accept you were 1203 00:41:36,276 --> 00:41:38,147 wrong, but you try with every 1204 00:41:38,147 --> 00:41:39,758 book to become better. 1205 00:41:39,758 --> 00:41:41,890 Because, ladies and gentlemen, 1206 00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:44,240 I learned we must continue to 1207 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:45,590 ask the questions. 1208 00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:47,853 Our scientists have a tunnel 1209 00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:49,245 view. 1210 00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:51,160 They don't want to see things 1211 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,467 which go further than their 1212 00:41:53,467 --> 00:41:54,729 thinking. 1213 00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:57,210 And that's why we all here, we 1214 00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:59,952 change the thinking, the 1215 00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,562 consciousness of all this 1216 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,563 society. 1217 00:42:02,563 --> 00:42:03,869 Thank you. 1218 00:42:03,869 --> 00:42:06,001 [cheering, applause] 1219 00:42:06,001 --> 00:42:08,221 >> REDFERN: Inevitably, anyone 1220 00:42:08,221 --> 00:42:09,962 that reads von Daniken's books 1221 00:42:09,962 --> 00:42:11,920 and thinks carefully about his 1222 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,879 work, whether they accept his 1223 00:42:13,879 --> 00:42:16,142 conclusions or not, they cannot 1224 00:42:16,142 --> 00:42:18,492 fail to wonder and ponder on the 1225 00:42:18,492 --> 00:42:20,929 idea of: Has religion actually 1226 00:42:20,929 --> 00:42:22,801 got it wrong, were we just 1227 00:42:22,801 --> 00:42:25,238 really visited by ancient aliens 1228 00:42:25,238 --> 00:42:28,284 and nothing else... and we've 1229 00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:29,634 incorporated that into our 1230 00:42:29,634 --> 00:42:31,157 belief systems and created these 1231 00:42:31,157 --> 00:42:34,116 structured religions which are 1232 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:38,730 based on ancient UFO visits? 1233 00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:40,340 >> VON DANIKEN: Looking at our 1234 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,298 planet, we have two groups of 1235 00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:43,561 human. 1236 00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:45,650 One group is religious. 1237 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:49,305 ♪ 1238 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,090 The other group is a scientific 1239 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:52,352 group. 1240 00:42:52,352 --> 00:42:54,615 The religious group believe that. 1241 00:42:54,615 --> 00:42:56,965 God created everything, the 1242 00:42:56,965 --> 00:42:58,967 whole universe... the suns, the 1243 00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,274 solar systems, the trees, the 1244 00:43:01,274 --> 00:43:03,058 plants, the animal... but we 1245 00:43:03,058 --> 00:43:05,278 humans are the crown of 1246 00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:07,062 creation. 1247 00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:10,109 ♪ 1248 00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:11,763 The other group... the scientific 1249 00:43:11,763 --> 00:43:14,287 group... they think we know 1250 00:43:14,287 --> 00:43:15,636 everything about mutation, 1251 00:43:15,636 --> 00:43:18,073 selection, that we are on top of 1252 00:43:18,073 --> 00:43:19,597 evolution. 1253 00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:22,164 Now, in both cases we think we. 1254 00:43:22,164 --> 00:43:24,602 Now, in both cases we think we humans are the greatest. 1255 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:27,169 Humans are the greatest. 1256 00:43:27,169 --> 00:43:30,390 There is nothing higher than we. 1257 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:32,348 We have to learn that we are 1258 00:43:32,348 --> 00:43:34,176 just one of the million species 1259 00:43:34,176 --> 00:43:36,918 out there. 1260 00:43:36,918 --> 00:43:38,398 We havebeen visited and it 1261 00:43:38,398 --> 00:43:39,529 continues. 1262 00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:42,010 These visitors willreturn to. 1263 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:43,316 Earth again. 1264 00:43:43,316 --> 00:43:45,753 ♪ 1265 00:43:45,753 --> 00:43:46,928 >> NARRATOR: Will mankind's 1266 00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:49,888 origins remain a mystery? 1267 00:43:49,888 --> 00:43:52,107 Perhaps the answers lie right in 1268 00:43:52,107 --> 00:43:55,023 front of us, in every corner of 1269 00:43:55,023 --> 00:43:58,070 the globe, and all we need to do 1270 00:43:58,070 --> 00:44:00,420 is what Erich von Daniken began 1271 00:44:00,420 --> 00:44:02,770 doing more than half a century 1272 00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:05,468 ago... keep digging... 1273 00:44:05,468 --> 00:44:06,469 keep exploring... 1274 00:44:06,469 --> 00:44:08,733 and keep watching the skies. 1275 00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:09,734 Captioning sponsored by. 1276 00:44:09,734 --> 00:44:12,737 A&E TELEVISION NETWORKS 1277 00:44:12,737 --> 00:44:13,738 Captioned by. 1278 00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:14,739 Media Access Group at WGBH. 1279 00:44:14,739 --> 00:44:15,261 Media Access Group at WGBH acc 84325

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