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What?
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Is it just us?
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What?!
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Aren't there any others?
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I can't hear you!
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We're taking you to the hospital!
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Were there any other family members with you on the ship?
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Were you alone? Have you seen them?
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Can you tell us what happened?
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How did you survive?
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What happened?
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103 boarding passes have been checked
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we learned about this just a moment ago.
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The Estonia is jointly owned by
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a Swedish shipyard and the republic of Estonia.
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And out of all the 188 crew members
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this many have now been checked 13 of them were Swedish...
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Did you give us your personal information?
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We need to double-check some things
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before getting into what you remember.
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Is that okay?
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Can I talk to Ari, please? Is he there?
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Just a moment.
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This is Jenny. From...
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You saved me from the raft.
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Okay.
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Sorry, but how did you get my number?
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Do you know what happened to the little boy?
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Listen.
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I have no idea why the accident happened.
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Yes.
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I'm glad you're OK.
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I just wanted to say...
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I was just doing my job.
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Hey, come on.
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Pass me the ball, come on.
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Looks great.
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Henri.
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Everybody's here.
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Is everything okay?
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What's the atmosphere like?
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Unusually quiet.
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How about you?
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Raud promised to take my side.
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And you trust him?
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He promised.
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Come on, let's see how it goes.
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Okay.
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The Government and I agree on this.
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We see no reasons to halt this.
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A delay would be expensive
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and cause the families even more grief.
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The families that I have talked to fear that the wreck will be looted.
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That is all I have to say for now.
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Right...
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The experts claim that they can salvage the ship.
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Technically, it's possible.
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The tech exists.
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They can tow, they can lift everything.
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But despite that...
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decision-makers are saying that they don't want to.
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Why?
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Why do they say that?
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They were totally silent the first few days after the accident.
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Don't you find that odd?
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Yes?
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But didn't the Prime Minister make a speech the day after the accident?
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Yes, he did. He made a speech.
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Absolutely.
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Initially, they said they wanted to lift everything up.
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The ship. Everything. It's doable.
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Then they changed their minds and said something else.
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First this, then that.
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But can we really say that they were silent?
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No, we can't, but...
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We'll discuss that next week.
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Class is over. Thank you for today.
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As to the excursion tomorrow see you at eight o'clock sharp.
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Don't forget to bring packed lunch.
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Hi.
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My mom said that you were on board the ship.
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I'm sorry, but...
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I have decided that I can't...
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talk about it.
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Don't you have gym class?
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Thank you for today.
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Yes... - You'll be late.
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We got this from the German shipyard five minutes ago.
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Preliminary report.
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The theory proposed by the Commission
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does not explain the accident.
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If that theory were true the ship would not have sunk.
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In other words
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there is something else that has not been disclosed.
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Are you okay?
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Sorry.
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I don't know why I'm reacting this way.
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No need to apologise.
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Why can't they just say what happened?
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How hard can it be?
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No one is saying anything.
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You can wrap that around you tighter
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yourself. Let's get you to the barracks.
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Everything is alright now.
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Here are some things from the choppers.
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We don't know who they belonged to.
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If anyone remembers something
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Anna Göransson, teacher from Sweden.
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Hi.
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My name is Olli Falk. - Hi.
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We're trying to get you a ride to the hospital in Turku.
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They will want to ask you about what you remember.
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I...
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I don't know what I remember.
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Just try to remember what you can.
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I want to call my family.
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Right now, we're collecting everyone's information.
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We'll be updating the survivors' families.
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But my husband doesn't know where I am.
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Is there someone called Göransson here?
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Kenneth Göransson?
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Kenneth Göransson.
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Is there a Kenneth Göransson here?
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I... My name is Kenneth.
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Listen...
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My name is Kenneth. - I think this is your wife.
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Are you up for talking?
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It's Kenneth.
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Hi, is that you Anna?
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Hello?
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Anna?
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Anna?
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There's no one there. - Yes yes...
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Hello.
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Anna...?
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Anna...
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Is that you...
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Anna?
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Hello?
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I can talk to him. - Anna...
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Olli Falk here.
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I'm calling from the regiment at Utö island.
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We have your wife here.
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Anna Göransson.
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We're calling to let you know
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that she was on board the Estonia but she's alive.
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She made it.
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Physically, she's okay under the circumstances.
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But I'm afraid she doesn't have the strength to talk right now.
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I'll tell her that.
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Honestly, I'm not sure
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if the survivors are worse off than the families.
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Our organization is talking
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to lawyers from the International Support Group.
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They're about to sue the shipyard and the classification society.
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I know.
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They approached us, too.
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Shouldn't our organisations team up?
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It would make us much stronger.
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Honestly...
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many in our organisation were on board the ship. Myself included.
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Our families are still down there.
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Okay, I think almost everyone's here.
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Welcome.
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Let's see...
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Let's start with...
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the first item on the agenda: insurance claims.
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The insurance companies are reviewing a compensation plan
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for survivors and families.
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According to the list, that is roughly 2,300
people.
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Excuse me...
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Excuse me, but has anyone said anything about retrieving the bodies?
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When will they take them out of the sea?
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According to the authorities
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that would be expensive.
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And difficult.
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Apparently, it is absolutely impossible to do that now.
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So they're only talking about money now?
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It's not just that.
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According to the experts
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that the bodies can't be retrieved after all this time.
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They...
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break.
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I'm sorry...
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but that's my wife you're talking about.
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My wife is still down there in the wreck.
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And so is my father-in-law.
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Sorry, but it feels strange talking about fairness and compensation
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when our losses are so very different.
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I understand that.
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I also think that we all understand why we're here.
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I just have to say one thing.
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I understand that the reluctance to salvage the Estonia
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provokes very strong emotions in some of you.
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I also know that some of you don't share that sentiment.
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I should tell you that I'm taking part
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in the discussions about how to proceed.
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And...
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We are looking for a respectful way to handle the deceased.
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Our aim is to...
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let the Estonia become a burial site.
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What we're working on...
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What all three countries are working towards
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is to declare the Estonia a burial site as soon as possible.
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But... Excuse me, Mikaela
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but they also want to cover the wreck with concrete.
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Yes. - It doesn't make sense.
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I don't get it. How can anyone then examine it from the inside?
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It's to protect the wreck
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and a way to create a burial site.
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The sea is a worthy burial site. - I don't give a fuck about that.
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Sorry, but I don't give a fuck about history.
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I want my wife to come home.
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Let's all calm down a little.
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One thing at a time.
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The most important thing is that we are being listened to
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and that this insurance claim is moving forward.
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It is also a part of...
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I can't let this go.
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I want to know about those talks on recovering the bodies.
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I want my wife.
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It's as simple as that. I know that we're all different.
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But I must be allowed to say how I feel.
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But, Oscar...
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If they were to salvage the Estonia
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I think a lot of people would be very upset.
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Handling the bodies in such an unworthy manner...
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Unworthy manner?! - Yes, dead bodies being...
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Yes. But it's my turn to talk now.
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Mikaela, please.
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Just one thing.
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What I'm saying... No, I am not!
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What do you mean? Be clear! - Yes! I'll say this...
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What are you going to do if you don't find your wife?
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If you don't find anyone down there?
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Or just one?
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Calm down!
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Can I speak?!
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I want to bring my wife home.
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I don't give a fuck about anything else!
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I want her home!
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You're fucking telling me that my wife is going to be fish food!
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Calm down!
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Sorry, but nobody's listening to me!
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Yesterday, the final report was published.
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It points to a defect in the ship's bow visor
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as a contributing cause of the disaster
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which became fatal in the harsh weather.
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Is the report telling the truth?
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I dare say definitely not.
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That is, however
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one variation, how to describe events
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which is certainly not the whole truth.
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If I may just say this from the human side
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I am very angry and upset
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that other theories haven't found their place.
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They assured me that
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this report would contain a number of appendices.
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But the appendix that I wrote, for example
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about the Estonian crew's involvement in the accident
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is not included at all.
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And I have to say that it makes me very, very disappointed.
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Many of us who were on that ship and survived
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have been surprised by the fact that nobody cared what we had to say.
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Not a single passenger has been interviewed
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by the international investigation commission.
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That didn't go too badly.
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Well...
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Wake up!
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The phone has been ringing all day.
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I took it off the hook.
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How are you?
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I don't want to talk about it.
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It might help.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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Get up. - Go away.
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Get up! - Get out!
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Fine.
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The Estonia's final accident report has aroused a lot of criticism.
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According to major accident investigator
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Pasi Toukola, the board's work
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was delayed by changes to its line-up.
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Toukola also criticizes the actions of the German shipyard
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that built the Estonia, which have further delayed
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the completion of the report.
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According to accident investigator Henri...
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Could you please turn that off?
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criticism was expected but according
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to him, the report provides an...
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Thank you.
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Unequivocal explanation...
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Do you know if someone new is coming here?
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No.
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Just wondering why they want to get the
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room empty so quickly if no one is coming.
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Maybe they want to get rid of you now that everything has been cleared up.
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What do you think?
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You must have been following the investigation.
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I've watched the news with my sister.
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Do you think everything has been cleared up?
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Well, it was on the news the evening after the accident.
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They said it was the bow visor.
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How long have you been investigating this now?
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And now you're telling me the bow visor was to blame.
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When...
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they rescued me that morning
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They flew me to the island.
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No one asked me about my friends.
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No one.
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About those who didn't make it.
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And Lina, who...
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who didn't make it...
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Lina, who...
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didn't make it up the stairs.
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My husband didn't ask me anything.
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I...
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I didn't talk about it, either.
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I...
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don't know why.
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I was just trying to block it out.
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I understand.
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But how could I do that?
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How could I try to forget something like that?
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I don't think you're forgetting it deliberately.
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I think it's a way for you to protect yourself
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a way for you to go on.
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They tried to identify people using their belongings.
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So, I...
339 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,159 took this.
340
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,159 I think...
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it was Lina's.
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But I'm not sure.
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It could have been someone else's.
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What if...
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What if...
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there's someone they couldn't identify
347 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,719 because I took this?
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Don't worry, Anna.
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We're here now.
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We're here now, and we remember.
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Right?
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Hello.
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This disaster...
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has affected us all
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in different ways.
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It's a collective trauma.
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But at the same time, it is deeply personal.
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Because each and every one of you has a unique experience.
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For some of you, it has been difficult
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to move forward with your mourning process.
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That process has been interrupted by new information about the accident
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raising new questions
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and doubts.
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Investigations and legal proceedings have followed one another.
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I'd like to ask you something.
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Is it true that it's peaceful and quiet in the eye of the storm?
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It's been more quiet for a couple of days.
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I don't know.
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It's probably the same thing with the family members.
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How come?
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Whereas they were thinking about why they lost their loved ones
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you're thinking why the investigation went the way it did.
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And will continue doing so for quite some time, too.
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You had three years to find causes.
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But they're not explanations.
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Some say that the families of the victims
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will never have
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a satisfactory explanation
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to help you move forward in your mourning.
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I'm an outsider.
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And I have not experienced what you have had to go through.
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I'm aware of that.
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But I wonder...
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if these wounds, perhaps, are not meant to heal.
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So that an accident like this never happens again.
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So that we will never forget
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what happened here
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on September 28, 1994.
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I think...
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that it is our obligation to not forget.
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Not only for our loved ones and for the victims.
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But for everyone.
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For everyone.
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To prevent this from ever happening again.
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I bought something for us.
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A cruise?
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Yeah.
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A gift cruise?
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To Stockholm.
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Thanks.
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