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[gentle piano music]
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- I was on duty that day
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when our detective chief
inspector called me
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to accompany him to a house.
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At that moment, I
didn't know why.
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It was about a five-minute drive
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from the police station
to his bedsit room.
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[gentle piano music]
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- The walls were covered
in pictures of Hitler,
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Nazis, and swastikas.
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We found poisons in there.
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And he had jars with wasps
and bees and substances,
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which were, you know, he'd
caught in a macabre situation.
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โช There's something
sweet about death โช
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- Under the bed, some foolscap
paper, which, on reading it,
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they soon realised that
it was a diary of events.
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[gentle piano music]
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- [VO] November 4th.
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"F" was ill over the weekend
suffering from vomiting,
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abdominal pains,
diarrhoea, et cetera.
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The doctor has said that the
illness is due to a virus,
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and that there is quite
a lot going around.
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Is somebody setting up
in competition to me?
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โช Nobody wants
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โช To talk about it
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- [VO] November 10th.
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"F" must have a phenomenal
tolerance to the compound,
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for he is still
obstinately alive.
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If he survives the third
week, he will live.
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This would be inconvenient.
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โช Bow your head
and show respect โช
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โช You know it's a gift,
but it must be said โช
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- [VO] November 16th.
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"F" is now seriously ill.
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It is likely that he will
die within a few days.
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It will be a merciful
release for him.
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It is better that he should die.
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From my point of view, his
death will be a relief.
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It will remove one casualty
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from what is becoming a
crowded field of battle.
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[gentle piano music]
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- When the police got
hold of Graham's diary,
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there must have been
a light bulb moment
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when they were reading
through this thing
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and realised that
"F" is Fred Biggs.
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Fred Biggs is dead.
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They must have thought,
"We've got him.
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Graham Young is a murderer."
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- [VO] If I were to be detected,
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I should have to
follow the maxim,
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those who live by the
sword, die by the sword.
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โช There's something
sweet about death โช
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[gentle piano music]
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- [VO] Dear sir,
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for some considerable time
prior to my admittance here,
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I was an ardent student of both
pharmacology and toxicology.
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[delicate music]
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However, due to the stresses
and strains placed on me
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by my almost incessant
studying of these subjects,
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I became the victim of
a nervous breakdown,
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which necessitated my
hospitalisation here.
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Now, however, that
my discharge is
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in the foreseeable future,
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I would be greatly obliged
if you would inform me
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of certain obstacles to what was
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to have been my intended career,
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as the offence with which
I was initially charged
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was involving the misuse of
certain highly toxic drugs.
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Am I liable to be refused
university entrance
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in pharmacology?
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Hoping to hear from you soon.
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I remain yours faithfully,
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Graham Frederick Young.
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[gentle music]
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- John Hadlands was a very
interesting organisation.
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It was essentially a
family company, originally.
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We were about 70 people
when I first arrived.
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It really specialised
on producing
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and selling equipment
for the photo analysis
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of mainly scientific
and technical film work.
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A role opportunity had come
up for the trainee storeman.
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It was proposed that we
might be interested in him
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because he was intelligent,
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and that he just
needed an opportunity.
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He'd come from a rehabilitation
and training centre.
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The reasoning as we
understood it was
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that he'd had some sort of
mental problems in the past,
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and that he needed a chance.
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- [Narrator] The day
before Young arrived
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for an interview with the firm,
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the training centre
wrote to Hadlands
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about the potential
new employee.
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- The placing report on
Graham Young said this:
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This man has an
above-average intelligence.
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He is very conscientious
in his work,
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able to work to
instructions given to him,
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as well as on his
own initiative.
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- He was interviewed by
Mr. Foster, I believe.
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On his application form,
there was a nine-year gap.
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He put this down to
psychological problems,
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having lost his
mother at a young age.
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- [VO] My mother died in
very tragic circumstances
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whilst I was in my late teens.
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This caused me to have
a mental breakdown,
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and I've been in
hospital ever since.
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- He didn't expand on
his psychological state.
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Mr. Foster still
wasn't too happy,
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so he asked for the
training centre at Slough
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to confirm what he had said.
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And they did,
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and they sent him a letter
basically giving him
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a clear bill of health.
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- This man has suffered a
deepgoing personality disorder,
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which necessitated
his hospitalisation
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throughout the whole
of his adolescence.
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He has, however, made an
extremely full recovery,
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and is now entirely
fit for discharge.
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- [VO] Dear Mr. Foster, I'm
pleased to accept your offer
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and shall therefore
report for work on Monday,
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May the 10th, at 8:30 AM.
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May I take the opportunity to
express my gratitude to you
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for offering me this position?
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I shall endeavour to
justify your faith in me
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by performing my
duties in an efficient
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and competent manner.
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Until Monday week, I
am yours faithfully,
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Graham Young.
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- Graham joined in May 1971.
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He came in as a
trainee storeman,
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and that was when I
first came across him.
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His function would've been to
assist in the finding of parts
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for various items in the stores.
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He would've also been
involved in the packing
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and dispatch of equipment
once it was finished.
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He was always tidy
and well-dressed
for most of the time
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and kept himself to himself,
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but he came across as
being a bit of an oddball.
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I knew that there were occasions
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when if you got him on
particular subjects,
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he could be very verbal,
and in doing that,
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he could articulate
himself very well indeed.
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[Hitler speaking in German]
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- He brought in books on Hitler
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and would extol the
virtues of Hitler
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in no uncertain terms if
you got him on the subject.
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This obviously raised
considerable eyebrows
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because there were
one or two people
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who'd got very distinguished
military service
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and had a very
different view of that.
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[sombre piano music]
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- It was a very nice,
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family-orientated factory
to work, from all accounts.
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All the employees were
given a midday meal,
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and they had tea at 11
o'clock in the morning
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and three o'clock
in the afternoon,
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brought around by a tea
lady, Mrs. Bartlett.
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[tense music]
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- There was an
outbreak of illness,
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and nobody thought
anything of it.
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Other than that it was probably
some sort of flu thing.
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I happened to be in the main
administration building one day
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and looked out, and
saw somebody come out
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through the storeroom
doors very, very fast
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and then be very violently
ill on the grass outside.
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It was traumatic,
to say the least.
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Nobody was clear what it was
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other than that it
seemed to be spreading.
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It started to be a cause for
concern and puzzlement too.
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[tense music]
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- Some of them suffered
hallucinations,
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palpitations, stomach sickness.
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Their hair started to fall out.
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The rash of illnesses that
occurred there prompted a lot
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of the employees to believe
that the place was jinxed,
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and that something
horrendous was going on.
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But they didn't quite know what.
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And many of them
actually started to hand
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in their resignations
as a result of it.
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- A lot of people
were complaining of
violent headaches,
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sickness, a lot of
pain, tummy pains.
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There was a suggestion that
it was a bug in the water,
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and hence they named
it the Bovington bug.
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[synth music]
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- There was also a suspicion
that perhaps it was something
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to do with some leftover
chemicals from the war.
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Maybe even heavy
metal poisoning.
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But that seems to
have been discounted
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in favour of the theory
that it was a bug, a virus.
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But it turned out the
virus was Graham Young.
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[synth Music Continues]
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- Bob Egle was the first
one who became so serious,
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he was put into hospital.
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That was a worry, obviously.
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- He was working at
the time as a storeman.
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He'd been married to his
wife for many, many years.
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He was coming up
to his retirement.
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- Bob was a lovely man.
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He'd had a very strong
military background.
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He was a Dunkirk hero.
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He was quiet, unassuming,
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very pleasant, and very helpful.
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[gentle piano music]
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When Bob died, there was a
terrible feeling of sadness.
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Nobody knew the
real reasons why.
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What we could go on was the
basis that it was believed
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that it was some sort of virus
known as the Bovington bug.
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- Young volunteered to
represent the workforce
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at the cremation in
company of Mr. Foster.
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- Graham expressed disquiet.
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He said it was a pity that
Bob Egle, a Dunkirk veteran,
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who'd been through
the horrors of war,
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should die in the way he did.
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- There were other
people who were being ill
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for one reason or another,
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and there was very
severe pain suffered
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by one or two of them.
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And it wouldn't surprise
me if they didn't think,
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"I'd be better off dead."
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[gentle piano music]
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- Fred Biggs was taken
ill soon afterwards,
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and he also suffered
dreadful symptoms.
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- Bob Egle died in
the summer of 1971,
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and then Fred Biggs
died in November.
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And now members of
the Hadlands workforce
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were getting very fearful.
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- The two men who died,
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they were said to be
dying from the fingertips
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and the toes upwards.
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They went very numb in their
fingers and toes and legs,
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had dreadful cramps and
pains in their head.
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โช There's something
sweet about death โช
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[sombre piano music]
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- We were called into a meeting.
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It was reiterated
that Fred had died.
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- The doctor who worked
with the company told them
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that they were working
through the options,
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what could be causing
the series of illnesses
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and now two deaths.
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And at that point,
Graham speaks up
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and starts
remonstrating with him
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and asking a lot of questions.
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What are the similarities
between the deaths
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of these two individuals?
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Could the men who've been
very ill be suffering
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from thallium poisoning?
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- The meeting concluded,
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and the rest of us went
off for the weekend.
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In the meantime, the
doctor had obviously gone
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and talked to the management,
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and he said, "Who is this man?"
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They explained that he
was a trainee storeman.
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The doctor was
somewhat surprised.
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Trainee storeman and he's
talking those sort of terms?
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- The company doctor and John
Hadland, the company director,
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have a conversation
and begin to realise
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that they need to know
more about Graham.
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Who is he? And where
does he come from?
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So they call him into the
office, and they ask him.
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And they're so demanding
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that eventually he
drops a bombshell.
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- [VO] Broadmoor.
I was in Broadmoor.
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[ominous music]
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- In November 1971,
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and it was probably
just going five o'clock
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when Detective Constable John
Preston took a phone call.
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He put his hand over
the phone and said,
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"I've got a man here from
John Hadlands in Bovington."
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That's what started
the whole inquiry off.
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That evening, Detective Chief
Inspector John Kirkpatrick
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and Detective Sergeant
Robert Livingston met
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with Mr. Hadland and Mr. Foster
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at Hemel Hempstead
Police Station.
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And having heard their
story of the two deaths
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and all the
illnesses in between,
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it was quite obviously
this was a murder case.
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[gentle piano music]
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- On the Monday, I turned up
for work a little bit late.
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I was pulled in, and there were
another three or four people
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in the room, and it
was explained to us
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that somebody had been arrested.
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That's one of those moments
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when people's faces
just go white.
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The realisation that actually
this is a deliberate thing
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that's been going on, not
something that's just a virus.
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We weren't told who it was.
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Obviously, went out, talked to
a few people. Who's missing?
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It was fairly quickly concluded
that it was Graham Young.
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[sombre music]
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โช All the suffering
will all boil down โช
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- Graham was born and
grew up in Neasden,
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which is a fairly
nondescript London suburb.
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โช All the suffering
will burn this time โช
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[gentle music]
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- Well, his mother died
when he was very young,
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and I think that
probably had an impact
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on him psychologically.
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[gentle music]
298
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- Graham's mother died
when he was very young,
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and I think this has had a
massive impact on his life.
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I mean, anyone who loses a
mother at a very young age
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is going to suffer from trauma
that they're gonna carry
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with them throughout
the rest of their life.
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[gentle music]
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- When we look at Graham
Young's actual childhood,
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to me, it seems
quite fragmented,
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and I think he was
quite displaced.
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Graham went off to live
with his aunt and uncle,
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whereas his sister went off to
live with their grandmother.
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[gentle music]
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- It's understandable
that Graham at that
time he was living
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with his aunt felt
quite pushed out
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from that core family unit.
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He felt like he was an
outsider from the beginning.
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[gentle music]
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- This could have
psychologically scarred him
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because he might have
had this core belief
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that he wasn't wanted.
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And sometimes, children,
when they're that young,
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they can actually
blame themselves.
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We know that Graham would wet
the bed until the age of 10.
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Graham also used to
rock himself to sleep
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to the point that he
made so much noise
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that the neighbours
even complained.
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[gentle music]
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- Fred, the father, married
again, a woman called Molly,
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so, Young now had a stepmother.
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As the years went on,
it was quite apparent
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that the two didn't
get on that well.
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- Initially, his relationship
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with his stepmother was
apparently very good.
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But it quickly became, once
he got a little bit older,
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also a rather
fraught relationship.
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And he complained to friends
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that she treated him very badly,
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destroyed his belongings
without good reason,
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locked him out of the house
to prevent him from snacking
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whilst his father
was out at work.
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- He was noticeably a very
inward-looking character.
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He was an introvert.
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He was capable of
being humorous,
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but his general demeanour
at school was a person
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who was sullen, morose,
very much in his own world.
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[ominous music]
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- It was at secondary school
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that I became friendly
with Graham Young.
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We had a little
bunch of friends.
347
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We used to stand smoking
on the corner at school.
348
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And we all gelled as we
were all a bit like that.
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A bit different
to the other kids.
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[tense music]
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He started wearing
rather peculiar clothes.
352
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He used to start coming
in in a black overcoat.
353
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That progressed to black
leather gloves and then boots.
354
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It became apparent that
it was actually Hitler
355
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that he was obsessed with.
356
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- He idolised Adolf Hitler.
357
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He was very much
into the Nazi cult.
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When he was old enough,
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he actually wore a
Hitler-style moustache.
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- He used to carry
around in his pockets
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in his overcoat "Mein Kampf,"
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which was obviously
rather a sinister thing.
363
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But I didn't know
what it was at time.
364
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- Graham's selection of
reading material really
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is an insight into his soul.
366
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He, at a very young age,
would read biographies
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of people like Julius
Caesar, Oliver Cromwell,
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Joseph Stalin, and, of
course, Adolf Hitler.
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It really feels like
Graham was more attracted
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towards tyrants and despots.
371
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- He was always in Neasden
Library as a youth,
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studying or reading
about various poisoners.
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- All boys have their heroes.
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Graham Young's hero
was Dr. Crippen,
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who was a notorious poisoner
of the early 20th century.
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But he was also interested
in William Palmer,
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who was a noted poisoner
from the Victorian era.
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For Graham, Palmer and
Crippen were idols, icons.
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[ominous music]
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Graham's stepmother,
Molly, showed concern
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about his reading habits
when he was very young.
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But when she discussed
it with a librarian,
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she sort of reassured her by
saying that it wasn't unusual
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for children to show interest
in that kind of subject.
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- He was developing
enough knowledge
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about the ways that
these poisons work
387
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and the appropriate dosages
that he was in a position
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to start putting his
plans into action
389
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and actually using
the chemicals.
390
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- [Narrator] There are
many branches of science,
391
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and for a young man or woman,
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they offer opportunities
undreamed of, even 50 years ago.
393
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- His father, he bought
him a chemistry set.
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With this tool,
this chemistry set,
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he started to experiment.
396
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- I think he was bordering
on genius with his abilities.
397
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I had a common
interest with him,
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because I was not
good at anything much
apart from science.
399
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We did do experiments, you
know, with my chemistry sets.
400
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His interests were to
do with heavy metals.
401
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One of them I can
remember was thallium.
402
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- He was known as
the mad professor
403
00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:20,969
because he was always talking
about scientific matters.
404
00:21:21,003 --> 00:21:23,696
His fellow pupils knew
him as an odd ball.
405
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- We'd go out in the
local area walking around.
406
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We would knock on
people's doors.
407
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If they were nice to us,
then nothing would happen.
408
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If they were nasty and
said sort of, you know,
409
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"What do you want,
little boy? Go away."
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we'd go back there later.
411
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He used to go in the garden,
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and a lot of these
houses had sunflowers.
413
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He used to inject the
stems of the sunflowers
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with a hypodermic syringe.
415
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You could see them droop.
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[desolate music]
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- He started experimenting
on the family cat
418
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and also frogs and
other creatures.
419
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He moved on to human
beings after that.
420
00:22:09,949 --> 00:22:12,296
- Graham was a little
bit of a loner at school,
421
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,333
but he did have a
few school friends,
422
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including a boy called
Christopher John Williams.
423
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In early 1961,
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he starts his experiments
with antimony on Chris.
425
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And I would say that that's
because he's accessible.
426
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So he can poison Chris by
doctoring his food at school.
427
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[ominous music]
428
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- Pure antimony by itself
is a silvery white metal
429
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that you can find in nature
mixed with other metals,
430
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,638
but it's present
in other compounds
431
00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,847
like antimony
potassium tartrate,
432
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which is also known
as tartar emetic.
433
00:22:48,677 --> 00:22:52,647
A dose of that would've
caused vomiting,
434
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tummy aches, stomach
cramps, diarrhoea.
435
00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:57,445
With continuous exposure,
436
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the symptoms can get
worse and more deadly,
437
00:23:00,482 --> 00:23:02,588
and it can even lead
to coma and death.
438
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So it really depends on
how long the exposure is
439
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and how much.
440
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- [VO] I gave him two or
three grains at school.
441
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I can't remember how I
caused him to take it.
442
00:23:13,806 --> 00:23:17,016
I think it was probably on
a cream biscuit or a cake.
443
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He was sick after taking it.
444
00:23:18,638 --> 00:23:20,951
I gave him a second dose
in May in the same way,
445
00:23:20,985 --> 00:23:24,264
and in the following month I
gave him another two doses,
446
00:23:24,299 --> 00:23:27,544
always two or three grains
and on food at school.
447
00:23:28,890 --> 00:23:32,549
- A grain is an old-style
pharmaceutical measurement,
448
00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:36,207
which is equivalent to
about 65 milligrammes.
449
00:23:36,242 --> 00:23:40,211
- Very few people offend
using such a method,
450
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but one of the things we
know about people who poison
451
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is that they poison
those close to them.
452
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[gentle music]
453
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First of all, they like
to watch the effects
454
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and what's gonna happen
once they've administered
455
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that poison.
456
00:23:52,327 --> 00:23:53,880
And that's part of the pleasure,
457
00:23:53,915 --> 00:23:56,504
is to actually
see how the poison
458
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that they have administered
459
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is causing pain to
the particular victim.
460
00:24:00,577 --> 00:24:04,235
So it's very obvious that he
picked victims close to him
461
00:24:04,270 --> 00:24:05,892
so he could stay
within their proximity
462
00:24:05,927 --> 00:24:07,135
as they were suffering.
463
00:24:08,654 --> 00:24:10,379
- Anybody that was
close to Graham,
464
00:24:10,414 --> 00:24:13,313
anybody that he had a
reason to be around,
465
00:24:13,348 --> 00:24:16,144
was a potential target
for his poisoning.
466
00:24:17,283 --> 00:24:20,355
- He used to bring in
a bag of fairy cakes.
467
00:24:20,389 --> 00:24:22,771
He would offer
these things around,
468
00:24:22,806 --> 00:24:26,879
and most of the friends used
to snap them up and eat them.
469
00:24:26,913 --> 00:24:29,260
One day I was
particularly hungry.
470
00:24:29,295 --> 00:24:31,780
I said to him, "Graham, can
I have one of your cakes?"
471
00:24:31,815 --> 00:24:33,472
I said, "I'm starving."
472
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:36,544
In a sinister voice,
he said, "Not for you."
473
00:24:36,578 --> 00:24:38,615
[gentle music]
474
00:24:38,649 --> 00:24:40,962
He was obviously
dishing out poison.
475
00:24:43,274 --> 00:24:45,035
- Once Chris starts
becoming so ill
476
00:24:45,069 --> 00:24:47,347
that he has to take
time off school,
477
00:24:47,382 --> 00:24:49,902
it becomes harder for Graham
to do what he really wants
478
00:24:49,936 --> 00:24:53,077
to do, which is to
continue poisoning,
479
00:24:53,112 --> 00:24:55,942
but from a position where
he can observe the effects
480
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on the victim.
481
00:24:57,254 --> 00:24:59,946
[sombre music]
482
00:24:59,981 --> 00:25:02,190
- That's when his career
really got underway,
483
00:25:02,224 --> 00:25:05,296
and then he turned his
attention to his own family.
484
00:25:06,712 --> 00:25:09,646
โช I'm not afraid,
it's just begun โช
485
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,372
[sombre music]
486
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- [VO] I started
experimenting at home,
487
00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,554
putting sometimes one,
sometimes three grains
488
00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:25,524
on prepared foods, which my
mother, father, and sister ate.
489
00:25:25,558 --> 00:25:27,664
I must have eaten some of this
poisoned food occasionally
490
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because I became sick as well.
491
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:32,185
I know after eating
these prepared foods,
492
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:34,360
my family were all sick.
493
00:25:34,394 --> 00:25:36,983
My mother went to the
doctor about her sickness.
494
00:25:38,744 --> 00:25:41,505
- Graham poisoned
his sister's drink,
495
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:45,336
and she sensed there
was a bitterness
496
00:25:45,371 --> 00:25:49,030
in the taste of the drink and
didn't drink at all, in fact.
497
00:25:49,064 --> 00:25:50,410
And then on the way to work,
498
00:25:50,445 --> 00:25:53,931
she started suffering
hallucinations on the bus.
499
00:25:53,966 --> 00:25:56,382
As a result of that, she
was taken to hospital.
500
00:25:56,416 --> 00:25:57,866
[tense music]
501
00:25:57,901 --> 00:26:00,697
- Graham poisoned his
sister with Belladonna,
502
00:26:00,731 --> 00:26:03,009
a flower also called nightshade.
503
00:26:03,044 --> 00:26:05,391
It has a long
history of being used
504
00:26:05,425 --> 00:26:08,359
as a medicine in low doses,
505
00:26:08,394 --> 00:26:10,154
as a poison in higher doses,
506
00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:12,018
and it was used
in the Renaissance
507
00:26:12,053 --> 00:26:14,745
to dilate the pupils
of the ladies.
508
00:26:14,780 --> 00:26:16,505
That was considered
very beautiful.
509
00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:18,335
And it has very
bad side effects,
510
00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:23,443
and the most notorious one is
hallucinations and delirium.
511
00:26:24,513 --> 00:26:25,584
- Graham was really
very enterprising
512
00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:28,034
when it came to
obtaining poisons.
513
00:26:28,069 --> 00:26:31,520
He seems to have begun by going
around various chemist shops
514
00:26:31,555 --> 00:26:34,316
in the neighbourhood and
rummaging through their bins,
515
00:26:34,351 --> 00:26:37,457
and taking whatever bottles
and boxes of poisons
516
00:26:37,492 --> 00:26:40,391
and potions that he could
find, including ether.
517
00:26:40,426 --> 00:26:42,635
Then he began using
his pocket money
518
00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:46,535
and going in and legitimately
buying chemicals and poisons.
519
00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:51,610
He used fake names, including
M.E. Evans and also Hawley,
520
00:26:52,818 --> 00:26:54,854
which is clearly a
reference to Dr. Crippen.
521
00:26:54,889 --> 00:26:57,650
And the interesting thing is
he went to a local chemist,
522
00:26:57,685 --> 00:27:01,343
Edgar Davis, and
they didn't realise
523
00:27:01,378 --> 00:27:02,862
that he was still a child.
524
00:27:02,897 --> 00:27:06,417
They thought he was an
appropriate age, at least 17,
525
00:27:06,452 --> 00:27:08,661
to be able to buy poisons.
526
00:27:08,696 --> 00:27:11,837
And because he had so
much chemical knowledge,
527
00:27:11,871 --> 00:27:13,355
they assumed he was a student
528
00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:17,187
and therefore there to
purchase poisons legitimately.
529
00:27:17,221 --> 00:27:20,086
[ominous music]
530
00:27:20,121 --> 00:27:22,675
- He was somebody that
was clearly fascinated
531
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:24,090
with chemistry and poisoning,
532
00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:26,265
and people around him
were becoming ill.
533
00:27:26,299 --> 00:27:29,682
But then on the other hand,
nobody would suspect somebody,
534
00:27:29,717 --> 00:27:31,511
especially a boy that young,
535
00:27:31,546 --> 00:27:35,757
to actively be trying to hurt
and poison people around him.
536
00:27:35,792 --> 00:27:39,692
- Poison as your choice
of weapon is invisible.
537
00:27:39,727 --> 00:27:42,108
You can't see it. He's not
carrying around a knife.
538
00:27:42,143 --> 00:27:43,972
He's not carrying around a gun.
539
00:27:44,007 --> 00:27:45,491
And so he can be quite clever,
540
00:27:45,525 --> 00:27:49,115
quite cute about how and when
he administers his poison.
541
00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:51,014
And I think it enabled
him the freedom
542
00:27:51,048 --> 00:27:54,086
to poison people
at certain times,
543
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,226
stop, allow things
to settle down,
544
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:58,780
and then start again
with another victim.
545
00:27:58,815 --> 00:28:00,748
His stepmother bore the brunt,
546
00:28:00,782 --> 00:28:03,440
because she, of course,
replaced his mother in the home.
547
00:28:03,474 --> 00:28:07,064
- Graham was regularly dosing
Molly with tartar emetic,
548
00:28:07,099 --> 00:28:08,410
which is antimony,
549
00:28:08,445 --> 00:28:12,725
and that is going to
cause diarrhoea, vomiting.
550
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,382
But with the long-term use,
551
00:28:14,416 --> 00:28:16,764
it led her to lose a
great deal of weight,
552
00:28:16,798 --> 00:28:19,939
about four stone in
a few months' time,
553
00:28:19,974 --> 00:28:22,977
and to become very weak and
to start losing her hair.
554
00:28:23,011 --> 00:28:25,255
So much so that she
had to stop work.
555
00:28:25,289 --> 00:28:26,670
And at that point,
556
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:30,191
she was at home far more
frequently with Graham,
557
00:28:30,225 --> 00:28:32,849
and he started to look after
her as a kind of carer.
558
00:28:32,883 --> 00:28:36,231
He would go to the chemist
shop to get her medications.
559
00:28:36,266 --> 00:28:38,406
He would bring
cups of tea to her.
560
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,890
But of course, all the time,
561
00:28:39,925 --> 00:28:43,445
he was dosing her to
watch the effects.
562
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,415
And eventually, she began
to become extremely weak.
563
00:28:48,243 --> 00:28:49,417
- With those who poison,
564
00:28:49,451 --> 00:28:51,384
they often take a
really keen interest
565
00:28:51,419 --> 00:28:52,972
in what's happening
to the victim.
566
00:28:53,007 --> 00:28:54,525
They often start to play nurse,
567
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,321
and they become this kind
of caring personality.
568
00:28:57,356 --> 00:29:00,773
It's all part of this control,
getting pleasure, really,
569
00:29:00,808 --> 00:29:03,086
from watching
someone in such pain.
570
00:29:04,087 --> 00:29:05,605
- [VO] Since the
beginning of this year,
571
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,677
I have on occasions put
antimony tartrate solution
572
00:29:08,712 --> 00:29:11,128
and powder on foods at home,
573
00:29:11,163 --> 00:29:13,717
which both my mother
and father have taken.
574
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,030
They have become ill
as the result of it.
575
00:29:16,064 --> 00:29:18,791
My mother lost weight
all the time through it,
576
00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:21,587
and I stopped giving it to her
about February of this year.
577
00:29:21,621 --> 00:29:23,831
[ominous music]
578
00:29:23,865 --> 00:29:26,903
- If you think about if you
go to a GP or a hospital
579
00:29:26,937 --> 00:29:29,457
with vomiting and diarrhoea,
580
00:29:29,491 --> 00:29:31,528
the first assumption
is not gonna be,
581
00:29:31,562 --> 00:29:34,151
"Oh, you were poisoned
with antimony."
582
00:29:34,186 --> 00:29:37,983
You're gonna think you have a
stomach flu, food poisoning.
583
00:29:38,017 --> 00:29:41,641
So unless you knew specifically
what you were looking for,
584
00:29:41,676 --> 00:29:44,610
you can be confused by other
diseases and other problems.
585
00:29:44,644 --> 00:29:47,578
[ominous music]
586
00:29:47,613 --> 00:29:50,512
- Not only was Graham
readily dosing Molly,
587
00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:52,860
but she was also suffering
from the aftereffects
588
00:29:52,894 --> 00:29:55,379
of a rather serious
bus accident,
589
00:29:55,414 --> 00:29:57,899
where she had been
thrown out of her seat
590
00:29:57,934 --> 00:30:00,626
so that her head hit
the ceiling of the bus,
591
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:02,421
causing neck problems.
592
00:30:02,455 --> 00:30:05,251
So she suffered with
all of that for months,
593
00:30:05,286 --> 00:30:08,013
until, finally, Graham
seems to have decided
594
00:30:08,047 --> 00:30:10,498
to try a different
poison on her.
595
00:30:10,532 --> 00:30:14,053
[dramatic music]
596
00:30:14,088 --> 00:30:16,849
- Thallium is one of
those famous poisons
597
00:30:16,884 --> 00:30:19,369
that is talked
about in literature,
598
00:30:19,403 --> 00:30:23,338
and it was used by many
other famous poisoners,
599
00:30:23,373 --> 00:30:25,513
because it is the
perfect poison.
600
00:30:25,547 --> 00:30:27,791
They call it the
poisoner's poison
601
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,518
'cause it's
flavourless, colourless.
602
00:30:30,552 --> 00:30:34,177
Very small amount will
have a very serious effect,
603
00:30:34,211 --> 00:30:36,317
and the symptoms are
not specific enough
604
00:30:36,351 --> 00:30:41,253
that you would not think about
poisoning if you saw them.
605
00:30:41,287 --> 00:30:43,600
- Graham realised that
he had the power of life
606
00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:44,981
and death over people.
607
00:30:45,015 --> 00:30:48,743
He poisoned Chris Williams
for a period of weeks
608
00:30:48,777 --> 00:30:50,262
until he had to stop,
609
00:30:50,296 --> 00:30:52,851
but he had that boy's
health in his hands.
610
00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:55,750
He poisoned Molly for months
611
00:30:55,784 --> 00:31:00,203
and constantly had her health
and wellbeing in his hands.
612
00:31:00,237 --> 00:31:02,377
And then at Easter,
613
00:31:02,412 --> 00:31:04,966
he made the decision
that he would kill her.
614
00:31:05,001 --> 00:31:07,658
He dosed her with
the enormous dose
615
00:31:07,693 --> 00:31:10,523
of 20 grains of thallium.
616
00:31:10,558 --> 00:31:11,800
So if you do the maths,
617
00:31:11,835 --> 00:31:16,736
20 grains of thallium
is just over a gramme,
618
00:31:16,771 --> 00:31:21,569
which in modern terms is going
to be quite a large quantity
619
00:31:21,603 --> 00:31:25,124
that you could easily see
if you had it in a spoon.
620
00:31:25,159 --> 00:31:27,333
But he managed to
hide it in her food,
621
00:31:27,368 --> 00:31:29,922
and that was a killing dose.
622
00:31:29,957 --> 00:31:31,924
- Dying from thallium
poisoning would've been
623
00:31:31,959 --> 00:31:34,409
a very painful death.
624
00:31:34,444 --> 00:31:38,655
The way that the nerves
get attacked progressively
625
00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,105
in your body.
626
00:31:40,139 --> 00:31:44,557
I've seen it described as
burning, pain, and needles.
627
00:31:44,592 --> 00:31:46,352
It seems quite horrifying,
628
00:31:46,387 --> 00:31:50,425
and not just painful,
but also slow.
629
00:31:50,460 --> 00:31:53,359
So that would've taken a
while to cause the effects
630
00:31:53,394 --> 00:31:56,466
that would finally be fatal.
631
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,158
- When Molly died in April 1962,
632
00:31:59,193 --> 00:32:01,195
Graham's reaction was
one of deep sorrow.
633
00:32:01,229 --> 00:32:02,713
He cried a lot.
634
00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:05,820
He stuck very close to his
father for the whole week.
635
00:32:05,854 --> 00:32:07,235
He went into Molly's bedroom
636
00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:10,652
and played her
music boxes, crying.
637
00:32:10,687 --> 00:32:13,138
When his father went to make
the funeral arrangements,
638
00:32:13,172 --> 00:32:14,725
Graham went with him.
639
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,452
But interestingly, it
was Graham who suggested
640
00:32:17,487 --> 00:32:20,110
that Molly's body
ought to be cremated.
641
00:32:20,145 --> 00:32:21,940
And that is indeed
what happened.
642
00:32:21,974 --> 00:32:23,251
She was cremated,
643
00:32:23,286 --> 00:32:25,529
and her ashes were
scattered at Golders Green.
644
00:32:25,564 --> 00:32:27,600
And of course, that
was perfect for Graham
645
00:32:27,635 --> 00:32:31,294
because it meant that there
could be no traces left
646
00:32:31,328 --> 00:32:32,778
of his crime.
647
00:32:32,812 --> 00:32:37,093
โช Nobody wants
648
00:32:37,127 --> 00:32:40,096
โช To talk about it
649
00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:43,858
- The cause of
death was attributed
650
00:32:43,892 --> 00:32:46,447
to the accident she
had been involved in
651
00:32:46,481 --> 00:32:48,380
some time earlier with a bus.
652
00:32:48,414 --> 00:32:51,072
[sombre music]
653
00:32:52,729 --> 00:32:55,007
- Graham actually went
to collect Molly's
death certificate,
654
00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,010
and I do wonder whether,
in his own dark mind,
655
00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:01,496
this was almost like some
sort of award or achievement
656
00:33:01,531 --> 00:33:04,499
or like a symbol for the
end of his experiment.
657
00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:11,265
โช There's something
sweet about death โช
658
00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:17,029
- [Narrator] Each new chemical
experiment is a further step
659
00:33:17,064 --> 00:33:21,378
in learning to apply chemistry
to practical problems.
660
00:33:21,413 --> 00:33:23,760
- Molly's death
didn't deter Graham.
661
00:33:23,794 --> 00:33:26,038
If anything, it seems
to have emboldened him
662
00:33:26,073 --> 00:33:30,767
to want to carry on with
his macabre experiments.
663
00:33:30,801 --> 00:33:33,218
- Graham's father
went into hospital
664
00:33:33,252 --> 00:33:36,600
soon after Molly's funeral,
665
00:33:36,635 --> 00:33:39,327
and he was desperately ill,
666
00:33:39,362 --> 00:33:42,641
suffering terrible
sickness, as I recall,
667
00:33:42,675 --> 00:33:47,749
and various other horrendous
symptoms of poisoning.
668
00:33:49,096 --> 00:33:51,270
That's the point at which
he became very suspicious
669
00:33:51,305 --> 00:33:56,206
about Graham and stopped him
visiting him in hospital.
670
00:33:56,241 --> 00:33:59,451
[sombre music]
671
00:33:59,485 --> 00:34:03,386
- By May 1962, Graham's
science teacher was beginning
672
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:07,804
to realise that the illnesses
amongst Graham's friends,
673
00:34:07,838 --> 00:34:10,600
the recent death
in Graham's family,
674
00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:12,395
the fact that his father
had been committed
675
00:34:12,429 --> 00:34:16,951
to hospital suffering from
gastrointestinal problems,
676
00:34:16,985 --> 00:34:18,711
all of this was
rather suspicious.
677
00:34:18,746 --> 00:34:20,161
So one day after school,
678
00:34:20,196 --> 00:34:23,268
he looked inside Graham's
desk and discovered poisons,
679
00:34:23,302 --> 00:34:25,684
and that led him to
be deeply suspicious.
680
00:34:25,718 --> 00:34:28,031
So at that point he
goes to the headmaster,
681
00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,688
and between them they
decide that they need
682
00:34:29,722 --> 00:34:32,104
to contact the authorities.
683
00:34:32,139 --> 00:34:35,694
So the very next day, a
child guidance counsellor,
684
00:34:35,728 --> 00:34:38,317
a psychologist who was
working with the police,
685
00:34:38,352 --> 00:34:40,216
had an interview with Graham.
686
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:43,357
They told him it was a
careers guidance interview.
687
00:34:43,391 --> 00:34:45,186
And during the course
of this discussion,
688
00:34:45,221 --> 00:34:48,396
the psychologist realised
that Graham's interest
689
00:34:48,431 --> 00:34:50,364
in poisons was such
690
00:34:50,398 --> 00:34:53,125
that it was just a
little bit suspicious,
691
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,784
and they thought that there's
a link here between this boy,
692
00:34:56,818 --> 00:34:58,786
his interest in
poisons and poisoning,
693
00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:02,238
the death of his stepmother,
the illness of his father.
694
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,724
That very day, a police
detective went to the house
695
00:35:05,758 --> 00:35:06,828
to talk to Graham.
696
00:35:06,863 --> 00:35:08,554
The detective arrested Graham
697
00:35:08,589 --> 00:35:12,213
on the suspicion of having
poisoned his sister.
698
00:35:12,248 --> 00:35:14,698
And this was very,
very shocking.
699
00:35:14,733 --> 00:35:18,012
A child of this age to
be actually under arrest
700
00:35:18,046 --> 00:35:20,670
by the police brought in
for formal questioning
701
00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:22,879
is very unusual.
702
00:35:22,913 --> 00:35:26,814
- He openly admits that
he's poisoned a friend,
703
00:35:26,848 --> 00:35:29,472
his own sister,
and his own father.
704
00:35:29,506 --> 00:35:31,646
It feels like he's even
talking about his actions
705
00:35:31,681 --> 00:35:33,959
with a hint of pride.
706
00:35:33,993 --> 00:35:35,305
- [VO] I can't
think of anyone else
707
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:36,789
that I've given poison to.
708
00:35:36,824 --> 00:35:39,689
And I know that the doses I
was giving were not fatal,
709
00:35:39,723 --> 00:35:41,725
but I knew I was doing wrong.
710
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,176
It grew on me like a drug habit
711
00:35:44,211 --> 00:35:47,145
except that it wasn't me
who was taking the drug.
712
00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:49,768
I realised how stupid I've
been with these poisons.
713
00:35:49,802 --> 00:35:53,185
I knew this all along,
but I couldn't stop.
714
00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:56,361
- For him, watching poisons act
715
00:35:56,395 --> 00:36:00,468
on other human beings
was like a drug.
716
00:36:00,503 --> 00:36:01,987
It was an obsession,
717
00:36:02,021 --> 00:36:04,955
something that he really
couldn't do without.
718
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:09,201
It gave him a sense
of power and control,
719
00:36:09,236 --> 00:36:11,307
which he actually admitted to,
720
00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:15,173
that it was the power that
he was really obsessed with.
721
00:36:16,243 --> 00:36:17,727
- [Narrator] When
the drug wears off,
722
00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:19,832
he wants that pleasant
feeling again.
723
00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:22,801
But he finds he has to
keep increasing the dose.
724
00:36:22,835 --> 00:36:24,320
The more he uses,
725
00:36:24,354 --> 00:36:28,220
the more he needs to get that
same feeling of wellbeing.
726
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:30,912
- During the course of
the police interview,
727
00:36:30,947 --> 00:36:33,225
Graham finally revealed
728
00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:36,021
that he had a large
collection of poisons.
729
00:36:36,055 --> 00:36:37,747
He had his own chemistry set,
730
00:36:37,781 --> 00:36:40,474
which was a gift from
his father, in his room.
731
00:36:40,508 --> 00:36:42,303
He had some other of the poisons
732
00:36:42,338 --> 00:36:44,719
that he'd managed
to procure and buy,
733
00:36:44,754 --> 00:36:46,411
but he also revealed
to detectives
734
00:36:46,445 --> 00:36:50,000
that he had quite a large
stash of poisons kept
735
00:36:50,035 --> 00:36:52,693
in a hut near a local reservoir.
736
00:36:52,727 --> 00:36:53,970
And not only that,
737
00:36:54,004 --> 00:36:57,698
he kept other stashes
of poisons in a hedge.
738
00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:00,321
So he had at least three
different locations
739
00:37:00,356 --> 00:37:03,945
where he kept his large
collection of poisons.
740
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:06,396
And of course, we ought not
to forget that this is a boy
741
00:37:06,431 --> 00:37:08,743
of only 14 years of age.
742
00:37:08,778 --> 00:37:10,193
He's like an evil genius.
743
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,506
He's actually thinking
ahead, thinking,
744
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:15,129
"Well, what if somebody
finds my stash here?
745
00:37:15,163 --> 00:37:17,373
Well, if I keep it here,
746
00:37:17,407 --> 00:37:19,892
that one perhaps
will never be found."
747
00:37:19,927 --> 00:37:22,826
He's very clever.
He thinks ahead.
748
00:37:22,861 --> 00:37:27,590
He's always really got
an eye on what he wants,
749
00:37:27,624 --> 00:37:29,316
which is to have poisons,
750
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:32,595
to use poisons to be able
to observe their effects,
751
00:37:32,629 --> 00:37:34,597
and not be suspected.
752
00:37:35,805 --> 00:37:38,117
- [Narrator] Orderly
storage is very important.
753
00:37:38,152 --> 00:37:42,812
Some products may deteriorate.
Others are highly flammable.
754
00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:47,575
All must be catalogued
efficiently and
handled with care.
755
00:37:47,610 --> 00:37:49,508
- Graham was remanded in custody
756
00:37:49,543 --> 00:37:52,787
to a young offenders institution
at Ashford in Middlesex.
757
00:37:52,822 --> 00:37:54,306
And of course,
while he was there,
758
00:37:54,341 --> 00:37:57,205
he was interviewed by one of
the prison medical officers,
759
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,173
who later recalled
that Graham said
760
00:37:59,207 --> 00:38:00,933
he was missing his antimony.
761
00:38:00,968 --> 00:38:03,764
He was missing the sense
of power that it gave him.
762
00:38:03,798 --> 00:38:05,835
And that clearly indicates
763
00:38:05,869 --> 00:38:09,183
that Graham was sort of
suffering from withdrawal
764
00:38:09,217 --> 00:38:12,738
at that point, the sense
of power and control.
765
00:38:12,773 --> 00:38:15,051
It's like he had an addiction.
766
00:38:15,085 --> 00:38:17,950
His addiction was to
poisoning other people.
767
00:38:17,985 --> 00:38:20,539
And when he was
remanded in custody
768
00:38:20,574 --> 00:38:23,335
and unable to feed
that addiction,
769
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:26,096
he started to feel a bit edgy.
770
00:38:26,131 --> 00:38:29,134
It really started to affect
him in a negative way.
771
00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:31,550
- We know that in the weeks
leading up to his trial,
772
00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,726
Graham attempted suicide
on two occasions:
773
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,831
once by poisoning himself,
774
00:38:36,866 --> 00:38:41,008
and once by attempting to hang
himself using his own tie.
775
00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:45,461
Generally speaking, hanging
tends to be quite final,
776
00:38:45,495 --> 00:38:49,430
and is a very severe
and effective method
777
00:38:49,465 --> 00:38:52,916
of suicide compared to, for
example, taking an overdose.
778
00:38:52,951 --> 00:38:56,368
Graham doesn't strike me as an
attention seeker in general.
779
00:38:56,403 --> 00:38:58,370
Throughout most of his life,
in fact, he was the opposite.
780
00:38:58,405 --> 00:38:59,613
He was much of a loner.
781
00:38:59,647 --> 00:39:02,616
He was quite withdrawn,
he was quite isolated.
782
00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:05,066
The exception being he
did actually take pride
783
00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:07,448
in his poisoning activities.
784
00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,174
- Graham was initially charged
785
00:39:09,208 --> 00:39:11,763
with having administered
a noxious thing
786
00:39:11,797 --> 00:39:14,075
with intent to cause
grievous bodily harm
787
00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:15,836
to his sister Win.
788
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:17,734
And then over a week later,
789
00:39:17,769 --> 00:39:20,944
two additional charges of
administering a noxious thing
790
00:39:20,979 --> 00:39:24,120
with intent to cause grievous
bodily harm were laid
791
00:39:24,154 --> 00:39:26,674
against him with
respect to his father
792
00:39:26,709 --> 00:39:29,712
and his school friend,
Chris Williams.
793
00:39:29,746 --> 00:39:32,922
The police and members of
Graham's family had suspicions
794
00:39:32,956 --> 00:39:35,027
about the nature
of Molly's death,
795
00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:36,408
but of course, there
was no evidence.
796
00:39:36,443 --> 00:39:38,341
Her body had been cremated.
797
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:41,620
So his plan had worked. He'd
gotten away with murder.
798
00:39:41,655 --> 00:39:44,554
โช I keep my hopes up
799
00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:49,490
โช And I'm walking the
streets over bodies โช
800
00:39:50,457 --> 00:39:52,217
- Graham actually
asked his sister
801
00:39:52,251 --> 00:39:55,082
to bring in the newspaper
articles, et cetera,
802
00:39:55,116 --> 00:39:56,946
related to his trial.
803
00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:59,880
So to me, this show some
elements of narcissism.
804
00:39:59,914 --> 00:40:02,745
He's obviously quite
proud of his own work.
805
00:40:02,779 --> 00:40:05,782
โช This is the moment
806
00:40:05,817 --> 00:40:10,891
โช It's the moment we
take from the main line โช
807
00:40:12,651 --> 00:40:14,826
- He was quite
excited by his infamy,
808
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:17,484
by his newfound notoriety.
809
00:40:17,518 --> 00:40:19,831
He clearly revelled in the fact
810
00:40:19,865 --> 00:40:22,592
that he was known to
members of the public now,
811
00:40:22,627 --> 00:40:24,525
and that the news
media were interested
812
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,354
in what he was doing.
813
00:40:26,389 --> 00:40:27,804
He found status.
814
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,530
A status that he
maybe didn't have
815
00:40:29,565 --> 00:40:31,567
as a child helped
him feel rooted,
816
00:40:31,601 --> 00:40:33,879
that he was important
at something.
817
00:40:35,156 --> 00:40:38,263
โช I keep my hopes up
818
00:40:38,297 --> 00:40:43,268
โช And I'm turning the
stone into stories โช
819
00:40:43,302 --> 00:40:44,994
- After Central criminal court
820
00:40:45,028 --> 00:40:48,756
for those offences
as a 14-year-old,
821
00:40:48,791 --> 00:40:52,622
he was sentenced under the
mental health section 59
822
00:40:52,657 --> 00:40:55,073
to Broadmoor Mental Asylum,
823
00:40:57,075 --> 00:40:59,664
not to be released for 15 years.
824
00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:05,083
- Broadmoor in the 1960s
was a lunatic asylum.
825
00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:06,567
When we look at the
history of Broadmoor,
826
00:41:06,602 --> 00:41:10,122
we can see the most prolific,
criminally insane offenders
827
00:41:10,157 --> 00:41:12,021
in England and Wales
being sent there,
828
00:41:12,055 --> 00:41:13,781
being housed under its roof.
829
00:41:13,816 --> 00:41:16,957
Graham Young grew up on
the fringes of his family.
830
00:41:16,991 --> 00:41:20,443
Lots of people in prison
find themselves feeling quite
831
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:21,789
at home in prison
832
00:41:21,824 --> 00:41:23,826
because they develop very
important relationships.
833
00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:26,311
And I think Graham felt
quite content at times
834
00:41:26,345 --> 00:41:27,623
in being in Broadmoor.
835
00:41:27,657 --> 00:41:30,142
- Graham was apparently
the youngest person
836
00:41:30,177 --> 00:41:33,180
who'd been sent to
Broadmoor since 1885,
837
00:41:33,214 --> 00:41:36,079
and I think his situation
was extremely unique.
838
00:41:36,114 --> 00:41:37,633
The vast majority of people
839
00:41:37,667 --> 00:41:40,670
who would be in high-secure
hospitals like Broadmoor
840
00:41:40,705 --> 00:41:42,707
would've committed
physical violence.
841
00:41:42,741 --> 00:41:45,882
And that's simply because when
we look at mental illnesses,
842
00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,609
you know, intense paranoia
or hearing voices,
843
00:41:48,644 --> 00:41:51,336
the sufferer is much
more likely to lash out
844
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:53,269
with violence rather
than do something
845
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:57,480
that's calm and calculated
such as poisoning.
846
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:58,792
- [Narrator] In
order to know exactly
847
00:41:58,826 --> 00:42:00,932
which substances we have,
848
00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:05,246
we can analyse them and find
out the elements they contain.
849
00:42:05,281 --> 00:42:08,249
- Graham was assessed by
three different psychiatrists
850
00:42:08,284 --> 00:42:11,356
within weeks of his
admission to Broadmoor.
851
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:13,876
Two of them felt quite
certain that he was suffering
852
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:16,603
from some form of
psychopathic disorder.
853
00:42:16,637 --> 00:42:18,190
The other, the third,
854
00:42:18,225 --> 00:42:21,987
thought that it was some form
of incipient schizophrenia.
855
00:42:22,022 --> 00:42:24,334
The fact that the three
of them did not agree
856
00:42:24,369 --> 00:42:26,578
on the diagnosis suggests
857
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:30,582
that Graham was a very,
very complex case,
858
00:42:30,617 --> 00:42:31,928
and that the way forward
859
00:42:31,963 --> 00:42:36,381
with him might never
have been entirely clear.
860
00:42:36,415 --> 00:42:37,900
- When he was sent to Broadmoor,
861
00:42:37,934 --> 00:42:41,662
he was visited by his
aunt and his sister.
862
00:42:41,697 --> 00:42:43,699
He admitted to them
863
00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:48,082
that he had poisoned
his stepmother.
864
00:42:48,117 --> 00:42:50,119
- [VO] I gave Molly 20 grains
865
00:42:50,153 --> 00:42:52,224
of thallium the night
before she died.
866
00:42:52,259 --> 00:42:53,709
I put it on a trifle.
867
00:42:53,743 --> 00:42:55,089
I knew she would
die the next day
868
00:42:55,124 --> 00:42:56,608
because I gave her so much.
869
00:42:56,643 --> 00:42:58,610
And I gave Daddy antimony.
870
00:42:58,645 --> 00:43:01,164
They're completely
different poisons.
871
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:03,960
One stops the kidneys from
working, that's antimony,
872
00:43:03,995 --> 00:43:06,342
the other disintegrates
the bones.
873
00:43:06,376 --> 00:43:08,275
That's why they didn't find out.
874
00:43:09,794 --> 00:43:12,313
- All we know
about Molly's death
875
00:43:12,348 --> 00:43:15,006
is what Graham has
chosen to share with us,
876
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,284
because there was
no evidence other
877
00:43:17,318 --> 00:43:19,113
than what he told his family.
878
00:43:20,563 --> 00:43:23,566
- The officers and the
inmates became paranoid
879
00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:26,742
about Graham's presence
in the institution.
880
00:43:26,776 --> 00:43:29,434
And they were
particularly concerned
881
00:43:29,468 --> 00:43:31,885
when he was out in the
grounds at Broadmoor
882
00:43:31,919 --> 00:43:34,750
because at that time,
883
00:43:34,784 --> 00:43:36,890
there were many,
many laurel bushes.
884
00:43:38,270 --> 00:43:42,930
- Laurel is a very common
decorative plant that contains,
885
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,899
in the leaves and in
the seeds, cyanide.
886
00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:48,660
So with access to
the right equipment,
887
00:43:48,695 --> 00:43:51,732
it could have been
very easily distilled
888
00:43:51,767 --> 00:43:54,148
into what is called
laurel water.
889
00:43:56,254 --> 00:44:00,845
- In August 1962, a fellow
patient was found to have died
890
00:44:00,879 --> 00:44:03,157
from the effects of cyanide.
891
00:44:04,124 --> 00:44:05,884
But there was no evidence
892
00:44:05,919 --> 00:44:09,301
that Young had actually
distilled this poison,
893
00:44:09,336 --> 00:44:10,751
and the final decision was
894
00:44:10,786 --> 00:44:13,443
that this patient had
died from suicide.
895
00:44:13,478 --> 00:44:16,861
But with hindsight, I think
we have to have a little bit
896
00:44:16,895 --> 00:44:18,932
of suspicion that Graham
may have had something
897
00:44:18,966 --> 00:44:19,864
to do with this.
898
00:44:20,692 --> 00:44:23,419
- The officer inside Broadmoor,
899
00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:26,733
he disclosed that
people had become ill
900
00:44:26,767 --> 00:44:29,528
since Graham was admitted.
901
00:44:29,563 --> 00:44:32,980
And it was later discovered
902
00:44:33,015 --> 00:44:35,086
that he had actually
poisoned the tea
903
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,466
in the tea urn in fact,
904
00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:39,573
and that people had gone
down sick as a result of it.
905
00:44:40,367 --> 00:44:42,231
And there was also a suggestion
906
00:44:42,265 --> 00:44:44,785
that he poisoned one
of his fellow inmates
907
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:49,756
because he'd been snoring a
lot and keeping Graham awake.
908
00:44:51,102 --> 00:44:54,174
- [VO] The sight and sound
of the pain it gave them,
909
00:44:54,208 --> 00:44:57,004
you might say it was
a sexual pleasure.
910
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,282
- For him, it was
all about power.
911
00:44:59,317 --> 00:45:01,802
You know, he actually was
quite turned on in some ways
912
00:45:01,837 --> 00:45:03,562
by having that level of control
913
00:45:03,597 --> 00:45:06,393
over someone's life
and potential death.
914
00:45:06,427 --> 00:45:09,637
And for him, it was about
how far he could push it.
915
00:45:09,672 --> 00:45:12,399
- [VO] Dear Chris, I hope
that you are keeping well.
916
00:45:12,433 --> 00:45:15,782
Just a few lines to let you
know how I'm getting on.
917
00:45:15,816 --> 00:45:17,715
It's not too bad a place here.
918
00:45:17,749 --> 00:45:19,061
The food is pretty good,
919
00:45:19,095 --> 00:45:21,719
and there are things to
occupy me some of the time.
920
00:45:21,753 --> 00:45:23,617
There is television
to watch at night
921
00:45:23,651 --> 00:45:25,964
and the wireless to
listen to during the day.
922
00:45:25,999 --> 00:45:29,105
There's also billiards
and snooker, et cetera.
923
00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:30,762
How are things with you?
924
00:45:30,797 --> 00:45:35,215
I get occasional reports about
you from my spies in Neasden.
925
00:45:35,249 --> 00:45:38,805
[tense music]
926
00:45:38,839 --> 00:45:40,392
- When he was in Broadmoor,
927
00:45:40,427 --> 00:45:42,394
Graham wrote to his
friend Chris Williams,
928
00:45:42,429 --> 00:45:45,812
whom he'd been poisoning
not very long earlier,
929
00:45:45,846 --> 00:45:48,780
and behaved as though there
was really no problem.
930
00:45:48,815 --> 00:45:52,957
It sort of gives us a few
insights into Graham's mind,
931
00:45:52,991 --> 00:45:55,166
really into the mind
of a psychopath.
932
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,894
Because again, it seems like
he's trying to exert control,
933
00:45:58,928 --> 00:46:00,343
but from a distance,
934
00:46:00,378 --> 00:46:03,519
keeping Chris close
by writing to him
935
00:46:03,553 --> 00:46:05,452
and not ever really
acknowledging
936
00:46:05,486 --> 00:46:08,420
that he's caused this boy harm.
937
00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:10,491
- There's no indication
of an apology
938
00:46:10,526 --> 00:46:12,252
or any kind of remorse.
939
00:46:12,286 --> 00:46:15,738
And I think that shows
us Graham's mind state.
940
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:18,189
So not only was
he so indifferent
941
00:46:18,223 --> 00:46:21,295
and did he lack any kind
of regret in his actions,
942
00:46:21,330 --> 00:46:22,572
but also, I think he struggled
943
00:46:22,607 --> 00:46:24,816
to understand what is
socially acceptable.
944
00:46:24,851 --> 00:46:26,991
I think he had very
poor social skills.
945
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:31,236
- Graham first attempted
to get parole in 1965,
946
00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,481
but the members of his
family told the psychiatrist
947
00:46:34,515 --> 00:46:36,241
that they would not accept
948
00:46:36,276 --> 00:46:38,657
to have him come home
to live with them.
949
00:46:38,692 --> 00:46:41,557
And Graham at the same time
had not been behaving in a way
950
00:46:41,591 --> 00:46:43,421
that led the
psychiatrists to believe
951
00:46:43,455 --> 00:46:46,251
that he was ready for release.
952
00:46:46,286 --> 00:46:48,633
But the thing about
psychopathy is that,
953
00:46:48,667 --> 00:46:50,152
and Graham had
already shown this,
954
00:46:50,186 --> 00:46:53,120
psychopaths tend
to be very clever,
955
00:46:53,155 --> 00:46:54,846
and they're also able to learn
956
00:46:54,881 --> 00:46:57,124
from their environment
and to take cues.
957
00:46:57,159 --> 00:46:59,920
So he began to watch
the other patients,
958
00:46:59,955 --> 00:47:02,267
and just to learn
and figure out,
959
00:47:02,302 --> 00:47:05,719
what do I need to do in
order to be released?
960
00:47:05,753 --> 00:47:07,617
And when he started
to behave in a way
961
00:47:07,652 --> 00:47:09,723
that showed the psychiatrists
962
00:47:09,757 --> 00:47:11,690
that he was apparently
turning a corner
963
00:47:11,725 --> 00:47:13,969
and heading towards cure,
964
00:47:14,003 --> 00:47:18,076
that meant that he could see
light at the end of the tunnel.
965
00:47:18,111 --> 00:47:19,491
- [VO] My dearest Win,
966
00:47:19,526 --> 00:47:22,632
many apologies from your
wicked, neglectful brother
967
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:23,910
for failing to write to you
968
00:47:23,944 --> 00:47:26,636
for such an
unconscionably long time.
969
00:47:26,671 --> 00:47:29,985
I have, however, some good
news to import to you.
970
00:47:30,019 --> 00:47:33,954
I had an interview with the
estimable Edgar last Friday,
971
00:47:33,989 --> 00:47:35,231
and he told me whether
972
00:47:35,266 --> 00:47:38,131
or not a formal recommendation
has yet gone in.
973
00:47:38,165 --> 00:47:39,511
I've had several conversations
974
00:47:39,546 --> 00:47:40,754
with the home office about you,
975
00:47:40,788 --> 00:47:43,308
and I've got things
moving at the end.
976
00:47:44,413 --> 00:47:46,518
He also said, "I'm
going to discharge you
977
00:47:46,553 --> 00:47:48,348
in the latter half
of this year."
978
00:47:49,728 --> 00:47:53,905
As you see from my quotes,
the pot is now almost boiling.
979
00:47:56,770 --> 00:47:57,944
- On some level,
980
00:47:57,978 --> 00:48:00,084
he thought of all of
this as a bit of a joke.
981
00:48:00,118 --> 00:48:01,326
He wasn't really taking
982
00:48:01,361 --> 00:48:03,846
the whole process
particularly seriously.
983
00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:06,642
- He's thinking of himself
as this sort of anti-hero
984
00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:08,368
that's gonna come
back out of prison
985
00:48:08,402 --> 00:48:10,232
and continue on his
quest, you know,
986
00:48:10,266 --> 00:48:13,545
to right the wrongs
of his childhood.
987
00:48:13,580 --> 00:48:16,928
Being different was
actually a form of power.
988
00:48:16,963 --> 00:48:19,172
- [VO] Just think,
Win, another few months
989
00:48:19,206 --> 00:48:21,899
and your friendly neighbourhood
Frankenstein will be
990
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:23,417
at liberty once again.
991
00:48:24,453 --> 00:48:28,940
โช Stop defending
what you've done โช
992
00:48:28,975 --> 00:48:31,253
- Does he mean Dr.
Victor Frankenstein,
993
00:48:31,287 --> 00:48:34,221
or is he referring to
Frankenstein's monster?
994
00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:37,707
I would say that he's referring
to Dr. Victor Frankenstein,
995
00:48:37,742 --> 00:48:42,816
the evil genius who is a
scientist doing research,
996
00:48:44,128 --> 00:48:48,615
doing science from motives
that he thinks of as pure.
997
00:48:49,823 --> 00:48:52,653
So one suspects that
Graham was really desperate
998
00:48:52,688 --> 00:48:54,897
to get back out into the world
999
00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:58,556
and really start experimenting
again with poisons.
1000
00:48:59,660 --> 00:49:02,353
- He seems to have
got on reasonably well
1001
00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,148
with staff at the beginning,
1002
00:49:04,182 --> 00:49:06,391
but he said to a
particular nurse,
1003
00:49:06,426 --> 00:49:08,911
"I'm going to kill one person
1004
00:49:08,946 --> 00:49:11,534
for every year that
I've spent in here."
1005
00:49:12,604 --> 00:49:15,331
โช I'm not afraid,
it's just begun โช
1006
00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:18,196
[ominous music]
1007
00:49:18,231 --> 00:49:20,958
- He stated that
categorically to a nurse,
1008
00:49:20,992 --> 00:49:23,546
and in spite of it,
he was released.
1009
00:49:23,581 --> 00:49:28,655
Having originally been given
a 15-year term in Broadmoor,
1010
00:49:29,414 --> 00:49:30,105
he was released after eight.
1011
00:49:31,106 --> 00:49:33,971
- His doctor had determined
1012
00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:37,181
that he should be released.
1013
00:49:37,215 --> 00:49:42,117
Subsequently, all the
agencies got together,
1014
00:49:42,151 --> 00:49:45,983
and it was agreed that
should be the case,
1015
00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:51,057
that he didn't cause any
risk to the general public.
1016
00:49:52,265 --> 00:49:53,991
- Broadmoor is a hospital.
It's not a prison.
1017
00:49:54,025 --> 00:49:58,581
And so everybody is there for
treatment of overt symptoms.
1018
00:49:58,616 --> 00:50:01,826
So if Graham wasn't displaying
anything like aggression
1019
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:05,243
or paranoid thoughts, there's
not really a clinical reason
1020
00:50:05,278 --> 00:50:06,865
to keep him there longer.
1021
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:09,454
[tense music]
1022
00:50:10,352 --> 00:50:11,594
- Graham is released,
1023
00:50:11,629 --> 00:50:13,631
and, by all accounts,
well, by his account,
1024
00:50:13,665 --> 00:50:17,980
he had no intentions of
going back to his bad habits.
1025
00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:21,742
But he happened to be drinking
in a pub outdoors one day,
1026
00:50:21,777 --> 00:50:23,503
and a number eight
bus passed him.
1027
00:50:23,537 --> 00:50:24,573
He was in London.
1028
00:50:24,607 --> 00:50:26,747
And he instantly
was brought back
1029
00:50:26,782 --> 00:50:27,955
to his childhood neighbourhood
1030
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:30,786
because he knew the
number eight bus
1031
00:50:30,820 --> 00:50:34,583
would go past the
chemist, Edgar Davis',
1032
00:50:34,617 --> 00:50:38,759
where he'd been buying
poisons in the early 1960s.
1033
00:50:38,794 --> 00:50:41,486
And that apparently seems
to have acted as a trigger.
1034
00:50:41,521 --> 00:50:43,419
Clearly he'd been
thinking about it
1035
00:50:43,454 --> 00:50:45,042
throughout his
time in Broadmoor.
1036
00:50:45,076 --> 00:50:48,079
He learned to control
and manage his instincts,
1037
00:50:48,114 --> 00:50:51,082
and to hide them from the
psychiatrist entirely,
1038
00:50:51,117 --> 00:50:53,084
or he wouldn't
have been released.
1039
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,570
He wanted to be a
famous poisoner,
1040
00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:58,848
and he couldn't
really help himself.
1041
00:50:58,883 --> 00:51:02,576
He had an addiction. Graham
Young was addicted to poisoning.
1042
00:51:02,611 --> 00:51:04,923
- [Narrator] In a profession
where the health of a nation
1043
00:51:04,958 --> 00:51:06,787
and human life are concerned-
1044
00:51:06,822 --> 00:51:08,513
- Thank you.
- there can be no margin
1045
00:51:08,548 --> 00:51:09,790
for error.
1046
00:51:09,825 --> 00:51:11,275
- Having left Broadmoor,
1047
00:51:11,309 --> 00:51:13,932
Graham initially went to live
with his sister, I believe,
1048
00:51:13,967 --> 00:51:18,109
who had showed
tremendous understanding
in view of the fact
1049
00:51:18,144 --> 00:51:20,525
that she'd been one
of his early victims.
1050
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,597
And then he found lodgings
in Hamel Hemstead.
1051
00:51:23,632 --> 00:51:27,325
- He applied for and got a
job working in the stores
1052
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,811
for a photographic supply
company called Hadlands
1053
00:51:30,846 --> 00:51:33,055
in Bovington, in Hertfordshire,
1054
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:35,126
a job for which he
was well suited.
1055
00:51:35,161 --> 00:51:37,197
- [VO] I have privately
studied chemistry,
1056
00:51:37,232 --> 00:51:39,303
organic and inorganic
pharmacology,
1057
00:51:39,337 --> 00:51:42,444
and toxicology over
the past 10 years,
1058
00:51:42,478 --> 00:51:44,549
and have, therefore,
some knowledge
1059
00:51:44,584 --> 00:51:47,483
of photographic
chemicals and usage.
1060
00:51:47,518 --> 00:51:49,968
- Graham applying for a
job in a company like this
1061
00:51:50,003 --> 00:51:52,695
is like a kid applying
for a job in a sweet shop.
1062
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:55,353
Absolutely perfect
for a man like him.
1063
00:51:56,872 --> 00:51:59,219
โช It'll be like home
1064
00:51:59,254 --> 00:52:02,602
[gentle uplifting music]
1065
00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:10,161
- Graham Frederick
Young, who was then 24,
1066
00:52:10,196 --> 00:52:12,405
was the prime suspect.
1067
00:52:12,439 --> 00:52:15,546
Enqueries were made at
the criminal record office
1068
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:18,031
at Scotland Yard to find
1069
00:52:18,065 --> 00:52:23,001
that the same Graham
Frederick Young had,
1070
00:52:23,036 --> 00:52:25,349
in 1962,
1071
00:52:25,383 --> 00:52:29,525
been convicted of
administering poison
1072
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,358
to his father, his
sister Winifred,
1073
00:52:34,392 --> 00:52:35,842
and a school friend.
1074
00:52:35,876 --> 00:52:38,500
[sombre music]
1075
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:42,849
- Well, because we were informed
1076
00:52:42,883 --> 00:52:45,748
that he had a sister
living in Leverstock Green,
1077
00:52:45,783 --> 00:52:48,130
which is a suburb
of Hemel Hempstead,
1078
00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:52,203
I went and saw his sister to
find out where Graham was.
1079
00:52:53,446 --> 00:52:56,759
And of course, she told
me that he was staying
1080
00:52:56,794 --> 00:52:59,210
with an uncle or
aunt in Sheerness.
1081
00:52:59,245 --> 00:53:01,488
She obviously knew that Graham
had been up to poison again.
1082
00:53:01,523 --> 00:53:03,318
That's why we were
looking for him.
1083
00:53:04,698 --> 00:53:07,632
We got the Sheerness
police to arrest him.
1084
00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:12,016
When they did arrest him,
for murder, as they told him,
1085
00:53:12,050 --> 00:53:13,535
he said, "Which one?"
1086
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,263
[sombre music]
1087
00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:23,165
- Later on that
Saturday evening,
1088
00:53:24,649 --> 00:53:27,342
Mr. Kirkpatrick and some
others took him back
1089
00:53:27,376 --> 00:53:28,998
to Hamel Hempstead,
1090
00:53:29,033 --> 00:53:32,347
arriving at about six o'clock
the following morning.
1091
00:53:32,381 --> 00:53:36,213
- Most of the witnesses
were telling people
1092
00:53:36,247 --> 00:53:39,664
that they felt sick
after drinking tea
1093
00:53:39,699 --> 00:53:42,080
or coffee made by Graham Young.
1094
00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:44,876
- It appeared that
it would've been
1095
00:53:44,911 --> 00:53:47,431
a relatively
straightforward process.
1096
00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:52,539
Somebody going to the tea lady,
picking up a cup of coffee,
1097
00:53:53,609 --> 00:53:55,301
and taking it back
to their colleague.
1098
00:53:55,335 --> 00:53:57,337
There would've been
plenty of opportunity
1099
00:53:57,372 --> 00:54:01,824
to stop along the way
along the corridor quietly
1100
00:54:01,859 --> 00:54:06,035
and just drop in this thallium,
1101
00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:09,384
which was tasteless
and invisible.
1102
00:54:09,418 --> 00:54:12,697
And whoever was on the
receiving end of it
1103
00:54:12,732 --> 00:54:14,699
wouldn't have been any the wiser
1104
00:54:14,734 --> 00:54:17,737
from knowing that
they just had a dose.
1105
00:54:17,771 --> 00:54:21,672
- Graham could actually
target particular individuals.
1106
00:54:21,706 --> 00:54:24,157
So once he had his
supply of poisons,
1107
00:54:24,191 --> 00:54:28,195
he had members of the
workforce that he could poison.
1108
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:29,921
And he had easy access to them
1109
00:54:29,956 --> 00:54:31,544
because he would bring
them cups of tea,
1110
00:54:31,578 --> 00:54:34,995
which he had, of course,
doctored with chemicals.
1111
00:54:36,238 --> 00:54:41,139
- I was tasked with
interviewing Mr. Jethro Batt,
1112
00:54:41,761 --> 00:54:43,003
one of the victims.
1113
00:54:43,038 --> 00:54:45,143
He was hospitalised in Harlow
1114
00:54:45,178 --> 00:54:48,112
at the Princess
Alexander Hospital.
1115
00:54:48,146 --> 00:54:51,633
I was told not to inform him
1116
00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:55,947
that Mr. Biggs had
died on the Friday
1117
00:54:55,982 --> 00:54:57,811
because his condition was such
1118
00:54:57,846 --> 00:55:00,607
that it might have
sent him backwards.
1119
00:55:00,642 --> 00:55:05,302
He looked bad, beginning to
lose his hair on his head.
1120
00:55:06,406 --> 00:55:09,961
Jethro quite often
stayed doing overtime
1121
00:55:09,996 --> 00:55:13,206
at John Hadlands
until seven o'clock.
1122
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:17,452
Graham Young also
stayed pretty regularly.
1123
00:55:17,486 --> 00:55:21,110
And instead of him having
to wait until half seven
1124
00:55:21,145 --> 00:55:23,043
for a bus back to
Hamel Hempstead,
1125
00:55:23,078 --> 00:55:25,356
which was about two
and a half miles away,
1126
00:55:25,391 --> 00:55:28,186
Jethro kindly
offered him a lift.
1127
00:55:28,221 --> 00:55:31,397
It was always Jethro's habit,
1128
00:55:31,431 --> 00:55:34,227
about quarter past
six, half six,
1129
00:55:34,261 --> 00:55:37,126
to make himself a cup of tea.
1130
00:55:37,161 --> 00:55:39,025
This particular evening,
1131
00:55:39,059 --> 00:55:44,133
who comes in carrying two
steaming cups of tea, but Young?
1132
00:55:45,445 --> 00:55:48,931
This surprised Jethro 'cause
he'd never done that before.
1133
00:55:50,036 --> 00:55:51,934
- Graham actually made
a joke at that time
1134
00:55:51,969 --> 00:55:54,903
along the lines of, "Well,
I'm not gonna poison you."
1135
00:55:54,937 --> 00:55:56,145
Maybe he just didn't care.
1136
00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:58,596
Maybe he felt quite
cocky, quite confident,
1137
00:55:58,631 --> 00:56:01,012
given that nobody had
seemingly found out
1138
00:56:01,047 --> 00:56:02,773
about his poisonous past.
1139
00:56:02,807 --> 00:56:05,016
[hopeful music]
1140
00:56:05,051 --> 00:56:06,708
- Over that weekend,
1141
00:56:06,742 --> 00:56:11,816
Jethro took very bad with
aches and pains in the limbs.
1142
00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:15,855
He had hallucinations, delirium.
1143
00:56:15,889 --> 00:56:18,409
He said he was in
a World War trench
1144
00:56:18,444 --> 00:56:20,618
with bayonets
coming down on him.
1145
00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:23,690
He was also on a mortuary slab.
1146
00:56:23,725 --> 00:56:27,211
- At this time, I was
getting this feeling
1147
00:56:27,245 --> 00:56:29,282
that somebody had put
on an old, you know,
1148
00:56:29,316 --> 00:56:30,559
the old duelling
glove, the mail glove,
1149
00:56:30,594 --> 00:56:32,837
you know, the metal glove,
1150
00:56:32,872 --> 00:56:35,668
and they'd somehow got
right inside my ribs.
1151
00:56:35,702 --> 00:56:37,394
And they were grabbing
hold of what was inside
1152
00:56:37,428 --> 00:56:40,604
and just squeezing and
twisting like that.
1153
00:56:40,638 --> 00:56:42,571
And that's no word of a lie.
1154
00:56:42,606 --> 00:56:44,193
- That's when you asked
me for the gun, wasn't it?
1155
00:56:44,228 --> 00:56:45,298
- Yeah, that was.
1156
00:56:45,332 --> 00:56:46,644
- When he got to
the point of asking
1157
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,197
for a gun to shoot himself.
1158
00:56:48,232 --> 00:56:49,233
You know, he was in that
1159
00:56:49,267 --> 00:56:50,199
agony.
- He did that?
1160
00:56:50,234 --> 00:56:53,133
[sombre music]
1161
00:56:53,168 --> 00:56:57,241
- Now, Jethro, if he'd
have finished that tea,
1162
00:56:57,275 --> 00:57:00,934
he would've been dead within
a week, from all accounts.
1163
00:57:00,969 --> 00:57:03,972
If we hadn't already
got a suspect,
1164
00:57:04,006 --> 00:57:08,701
Graham Frederick Young
would've been top of the list
1165
00:57:08,735 --> 00:57:11,773
based on what
Jethro had told us.
1166
00:57:13,499 --> 00:57:17,848
His lodgings were tracked
down and was searched.
1167
00:57:17,882 --> 00:57:22,404
There were files,
poisons, books on poisons.
1168
00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:26,615
The wall, he had Third
Reich, depictions of death,
1169
00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:29,998
and they found, although
they didn't know what it was,
1170
00:57:30,032 --> 00:57:32,587
but in the top pocket
of a jacket hanging up
1171
00:57:32,621 --> 00:57:37,315
behind the door was a
file of white powder.
1172
00:57:39,352 --> 00:57:41,665
That turned out to be a file
1173
00:57:41,699 --> 00:57:44,184
that he had said later
1174
00:57:44,219 --> 00:57:47,084
retained as his exit dose.
1175
00:57:47,118 --> 00:57:50,087
[dramatic music]
1176
00:57:50,121 --> 00:57:54,298
- And then the full nature
of Graham Young was exposed.
1177
00:57:54,332 --> 00:57:57,784
That he was a guy who
was utterly fascinated
1178
00:57:57,819 --> 00:58:02,824
by extreme right-wing
ideology and toxicology.
1179
00:58:03,618 --> 00:58:06,103
They were his twin obsessions
1180
00:58:06,137 --> 00:58:10,141
and really amounted
to his entire life.
1181
00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:13,490
- [Narrator] It is human life
with which he is dealing,
1182
00:58:13,524 --> 00:58:16,113
the most precious
commodity of all.
1183
00:58:16,147 --> 00:58:19,357
- They searched
his flat or bedsit
1184
00:58:19,392 --> 00:58:22,188
and found a diary that
he'd been keeping.
1185
00:58:22,222 --> 00:58:25,087
He began keeping this thing
on the 12th of October,
1186
00:58:25,122 --> 00:58:28,056
and the last entry was
the 17th of November,
1187
00:58:28,090 --> 00:58:30,852
two days before Fred Biggs died.
1188
00:58:30,886 --> 00:58:34,407
And this thing was a revelation
because they could see
1189
00:58:34,441 --> 00:58:38,135
that all of his colleagues
at Hadlands were referred
1190
00:58:38,169 --> 00:58:40,689
to using just their initials.
1191
00:58:40,724 --> 00:58:43,347
So "J" for Jethro Batt.
1192
00:58:43,381 --> 00:58:47,282
- [VO] October 21st.
"J" has also worsened.
1193
00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:49,318
His symptoms have
developed more slowly,
1194
00:58:49,353 --> 00:58:51,700
but he's now
experiencing severe pains
1195
00:58:51,735 --> 00:58:54,738
in the feet and legs, causing
difficulty in walking,
1196
00:58:54,772 --> 00:58:58,638
and further pains in the
stomach, back, and chest.
1197
00:58:58,673 --> 00:59:02,331
I feel rather ashamed of
my action in harming Jeff.
1198
00:59:02,366 --> 00:59:04,023
I think he's a
really nice fellow
1199
00:59:04,057 --> 00:59:07,371
and the nearest thing to a
friend that I have at Hadlands.
1200
00:59:07,405 --> 00:59:10,063
I hope, although I
have no faith in it,
1201
00:59:10,098 --> 00:59:11,617
that he will soon recover.
1202
00:59:12,963 --> 00:59:15,724
- It was quite explicit the
fact that he had initials
1203
00:59:15,759 --> 00:59:18,589
for whoever the
people he'd poisoned.
1204
00:59:18,624 --> 00:59:20,557
And then he'd obviously
looked at them
1205
00:59:20,591 --> 00:59:23,974
and seen the reaction that
his poisons had been given.
1206
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,185
And he'd make remarks about
he needed to give them more
1207
00:59:28,219 --> 00:59:31,809
'cause the reaction wasn't
enough or what have you.
1208
00:59:31,844 --> 00:59:34,018
- [VO] "J" has developed
severe alopecia
1209
00:59:34,053 --> 00:59:35,537
and has lost weight.
1210
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:38,644
The hospital is rechecking
all the tests previously made.
1211
00:59:38,678 --> 00:59:41,854
As yet, they do not
suspect an unnatural cause.
1212
00:59:41,888 --> 00:59:44,166
Whether or not their
tests will prove negative
1213
00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:46,479
depends upon a
number of factors.
1214
00:59:46,513 --> 00:59:49,931
The situation is fraught
with danger and uncertainty,
1215
00:59:49,965 --> 00:59:53,451
and I must watch the
situation extremely closely.
1216
00:59:53,486 --> 00:59:56,075
If it seems inevitable
that I shall be detected,
1217
00:59:56,109 --> 00:59:58,215
then I shall have
to destroy myself.
1218
00:59:58,249 --> 01:00:01,528
[sombre music]
1219
01:00:01,563 --> 01:00:04,186
There is no alternative.
1220
01:00:04,221 --> 01:00:07,051
- He suggests that
if suspicion starts
1221
01:00:07,086 --> 01:00:10,434
to address itself to him, he
might have to commit suicide.
1222
01:00:10,468 --> 01:00:14,680
Although how serious he ever
was about that is unknown.
1223
01:00:14,714 --> 01:00:18,407
But it's very clear that
he's making notations
1224
01:00:18,442 --> 01:00:21,859
as he's carrying out
scientific experiments
1225
01:00:21,894 --> 01:00:24,310
on a large number
of his colleagues.
1226
01:00:24,344 --> 01:00:27,002
[sombre music]
1227
01:00:29,211 --> 01:00:31,075
- It was a chilling document.
1228
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:34,803
On one occasion, he
talks about David Tilson,
1229
01:00:35,770 --> 01:00:37,910
who was another victim,
1230
01:00:37,944 --> 01:00:41,914
and had become very
ill too, lost his hair.
1231
01:00:41,948 --> 01:00:45,607
- [VO] "D's" condition
continues to deteriorate.
1232
01:00:45,642 --> 01:00:47,091
He was admitted to
hospital this morning
1233
01:00:47,126 --> 01:00:48,921
with paralysis of the legs.
1234
01:00:48,955 --> 01:00:52,269
The lower peripheral
neuritis is now complete.
1235
01:00:52,303 --> 01:00:54,581
What other nerves,
at present inflamed,
1236
01:00:54,616 --> 01:00:57,101
will become subject
to major dysfunction
1237
01:00:57,136 --> 01:00:59,897
is not possible to
estimate at present.
1238
01:00:59,932 --> 01:01:01,519
There is little danger to life,
1239
01:01:01,554 --> 01:01:04,591
barring unforeseen
complications.
1240
01:01:04,626 --> 01:01:08,181
- David Tilson had been
taken to hospital very soon
1241
01:01:08,216 --> 01:01:12,047
after ingesting some thallium.
1242
01:01:12,082 --> 01:01:17,018
And Young was
saying in this diary
1243
01:01:17,052 --> 01:01:21,574
that he would perhaps take
him a miniature brandy
1244
01:01:22,644 --> 01:01:25,751
to get on his right side.
1245
01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:27,925
- [VO] This would, I
think, have been accepted,
1246
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,894
and under my direction,
hastily swallowed.
1247
01:01:31,722 --> 01:01:32,930
The bottle being returned to me
1248
01:01:32,965 --> 01:01:34,898
on the grounds entirely logical
1249
01:01:34,932 --> 01:01:37,245
that the nurses may
otherwise discover the breach
1250
01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:38,695
of hospital discipline.
1251
01:01:40,075 --> 01:01:42,526
A precedent having
been thus established,
1252
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,734
I would, upon my second visit,
1253
01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:45,805
have produced an
identical miniature
1254
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,911
to be consumed in like manner.
1255
01:01:49,395 --> 01:01:52,191
The latter, however, would've
been previously doctored,
1256
01:01:52,225 --> 01:01:54,158
and would within 48
hours have brought
1257
01:01:54,193 --> 01:01:57,299
about a deterioration
of "D's" condition,
1258
01:01:57,334 --> 01:02:00,855
which, within a week,
would've terminated in death.
1259
01:02:00,889 --> 01:02:02,511
- He said in the diary
that he was gonna come
1260
01:02:02,546 --> 01:02:05,273
and visit me in hospital,
which happily he never did,
1261
01:02:06,343 --> 01:02:09,484
and give me another
dose to see me off,
1262
01:02:09,518 --> 01:02:12,349
because I hadn't taken
all of the original dose
1263
01:02:12,383 --> 01:02:14,454
because I don't
take sugar in tea.
1264
01:02:14,489 --> 01:02:16,180
And the tea that I
was given was sugared,
1265
01:02:16,215 --> 01:02:19,080
which is the reason I'm
here now talking to you.
1266
01:02:19,114 --> 01:02:21,945
And that's the only reason
as far as I can see.
1267
01:02:21,979 --> 01:02:23,705
- [VO] October 31st.
1268
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:26,121
"D," though he is now
discharged from hospital,
1269
01:02:26,156 --> 01:02:27,398
is still unwell,
1270
01:02:27,433 --> 01:02:30,298
so I do not expect to
see him for some time.
1271
01:02:30,332 --> 01:02:32,196
His illness was
finally diagnosed
1272
01:02:32,231 --> 01:02:34,854
as an "unidentified virus."
1273
01:02:34,889 --> 01:02:37,236
- The diary gives us
as much information
1274
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:38,409
as we're ever likely to have
1275
01:02:38,444 --> 01:02:40,964
about Graham Young's
actual motives.
1276
01:02:40,998 --> 01:02:43,967
One of the most distinctive
aspects of thallium poisoning
1277
01:02:44,001 --> 01:02:46,832
is the complete loss of hair.
1278
01:02:46,866 --> 01:02:51,077
And when his victims started
to show signs of alopecia,
1279
01:02:51,112 --> 01:02:54,460
Graham began to think, "I
need to kill them quickly
1280
01:02:54,494 --> 01:02:59,051
so that the alopecia doesn't
sort of move to completeness,
1281
01:02:59,085 --> 01:03:01,847
because that might lead
the doctors to suspect
1282
01:03:01,881 --> 01:03:04,573
that it's thallium and
not this Bovington bug.
1283
01:03:05,402 --> 01:03:06,610
- [VO] November 1st.
1284
01:03:06,644 --> 01:03:07,956
Some new developments:
1285
01:03:07,991 --> 01:03:11,304
"D" has relapsed and has
been readmitted to hospital.
1286
01:03:11,339 --> 01:03:14,894
A fresh and, to me, disturbing
symptom has appeared.
1287
01:03:14,929 --> 01:03:17,241
He has commenced to lose hair,
1288
01:03:17,276 --> 01:03:19,519
which, though at
present only slight,
1289
01:03:19,554 --> 01:03:22,281
is likely to progress
to alopecia totalis.
1290
01:03:22,315 --> 01:03:24,801
[ominous music]
1291
01:03:25,871 --> 01:03:27,527
- He's kind of
challenging himself to see
1292
01:03:27,562 --> 01:03:30,668
how long he can continue
poisoning this man.
1293
01:03:30,703 --> 01:03:34,396
How big would the dose
be, but yet not kill him?
1294
01:03:34,431 --> 01:03:36,640
What would the
cumulative effects be?
1295
01:03:36,674 --> 01:03:39,229
You can see that
Graham is behaving both
1296
01:03:39,263 --> 01:03:41,887
as a potential murderer,
1297
01:03:41,921 --> 01:03:44,855
but also as a scientist
who's deeply interested
1298
01:03:44,890 --> 01:03:47,720
in the scientific
effects of his actions
1299
01:03:47,754 --> 01:03:50,102
with this particular poison.
1300
01:03:50,136 --> 01:03:52,863
- [VO] November 3rd.
Disturbing events.
1301
01:03:52,898 --> 01:03:55,590
Apparently "D's" hair
loss was almost total,
1302
01:03:55,624 --> 01:03:57,592
and the hospital authorities
advanced the view
1303
01:03:57,626 --> 01:04:01,941
that "D's" illness may be due
to "some kind of poisoning."
1304
01:04:01,976 --> 01:04:05,117
This is a very dangerous
path for them to explore.
1305
01:04:06,532 --> 01:04:10,122
- Diana Smart was
employed in the stores
1306
01:04:10,156 --> 01:04:13,746
after the death of Mr. Egle
1307
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:17,025
and worked with
Young and Mr. Biggs
1308
01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:20,132
as a storekeeper or
assistant storekeeper.
1309
01:04:21,581 --> 01:04:26,655
- I was sent to see Diana
Smart, who had been quite ill.
1310
01:04:27,277 --> 01:04:28,726
I had to tell her
1311
01:04:28,761 --> 01:04:32,834
that we were investigating
the sickness at the factory.
1312
01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:36,734
A lot of people were putting
it down to the water.
1313
01:04:36,769 --> 01:04:40,152
So she was rather surprised
that I was insistent
1314
01:04:40,186 --> 01:04:42,257
on seeing her that night
1315
01:04:42,292 --> 01:04:44,915
rather than waiting
for the next day,
1316
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:48,160
- [VO] Di irritated me
intensely yesterday.
1317
01:04:48,194 --> 01:04:50,645
I only gave her sufficient
to shake her up,
1318
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,130
though I now regret I didn't
give her a larger dose,
1319
01:04:53,165 --> 01:04:55,926
capable of laying her
up for a few days.
1320
01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:57,686
- He said about Diana Smart,
1321
01:04:57,721 --> 01:05:00,275
"I packed her off
because she annoyed me."
1322
01:05:00,310 --> 01:05:04,728
And that would result
in diarrhoea, sickness,
1323
01:05:04,762 --> 01:05:08,352
really strong pains
in the stomach.
1324
01:05:08,387 --> 01:05:10,216
She had probably said
something to him,
1325
01:05:10,251 --> 01:05:13,116
or he'd taken her the wrong way.
1326
01:05:13,150 --> 01:05:14,980
- [VO] There is
much to communicate
1327
01:05:15,014 --> 01:05:16,498
since my last entry.
1328
01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:19,846
Di, who I afflicted with a
mild attack of gastroenteritis
1329
01:05:19,881 --> 01:05:21,262
on October the 20th,
1330
01:05:21,296 --> 01:05:24,990
was subject to a further
indisposition on the 22nd,
1331
01:05:25,024 --> 01:05:27,682
the results of which
caused violent vomiting
1332
01:05:27,716 --> 01:05:30,409
and diarrhoea
throughout the weekend.
1333
01:05:30,443 --> 01:05:33,308
I believe she's now
suitably chastened.
1334
01:05:33,343 --> 01:05:37,485
- That was actually outside of
his usual mode of operation.
1335
01:05:37,519 --> 01:05:41,592
That really didn't fit in
with the Graham Young picture,
1336
01:05:41,627 --> 01:05:43,456
because he was
much more concerned
1337
01:05:43,491 --> 01:05:46,597
with the scientific
aspects of the process.
1338
01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:50,394
- Some of the writing, the
prose within Graham's diary,
1339
01:05:50,429 --> 01:05:53,156
is almost poetic,
but at the same time,
1340
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:54,571
it's quite scientific.
1341
01:05:54,605 --> 01:05:58,057
There's not really that much
emotion coming from him.
1342
01:05:58,092 --> 01:06:01,543
This reflects how indifferent
and callous he was
1343
01:06:01,578 --> 01:06:03,269
to the lives of his victims.
1344
01:06:03,304 --> 01:06:06,169
[sombre music]
1345
01:06:06,203 --> 01:06:08,378
- [VO] "F," whom I grew to like,
1346
01:06:08,412 --> 01:06:11,277
has been the most recent
subject of my attentions.
1347
01:06:11,312 --> 01:06:12,692
I've administered a fatal dose
1348
01:06:12,727 --> 01:06:15,109
of the "special compound" to him
1349
01:06:15,143 --> 01:06:17,628
and anticipate reports
of his illness on Monday,
1350
01:06:17,663 --> 01:06:19,216
the 1st of November.
1351
01:06:19,251 --> 01:06:21,115
He should die within the week.
1352
01:06:21,149 --> 01:06:23,013
I gave him three separate doses,
1353
01:06:23,048 --> 01:06:25,429
each of about 5/6 grains.
1354
01:06:25,464 --> 01:06:28,674
The total absorbed should
be about 15/16 grains,
1355
01:06:28,708 --> 01:06:31,608
which constitutes a lethal dose.
1356
01:06:33,334 --> 01:06:35,439
- The most basic
principle of toxicology
1357
01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:38,028
is the dose makes the poison.
1358
01:06:38,063 --> 01:06:39,547
And what this means is that
1359
01:06:39,581 --> 01:06:41,583
with high enough
amounts of something,
1360
01:06:41,618 --> 01:06:43,137
everything can be a poison.
1361
01:06:43,171 --> 01:06:45,035
That's how medicines
work as well.
1362
01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:47,762
If you take one tablet
of your medicine,
1363
01:06:47,796 --> 01:06:49,833
it does the effect
that it's supposed to.
1364
01:06:49,867 --> 01:06:52,318
If you take a whole pack,
1365
01:06:52,353 --> 01:06:54,044
it'll have very bad effects.
1366
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,081
The same thing happened
with these poisons,
1367
01:06:56,115 --> 01:06:58,117
and that's why they were
used as medicines back
1368
01:06:58,152 --> 01:06:59,532
in the day a lot.
1369
01:06:59,567 --> 01:07:03,260
If you had a very small
dose, you would've been fine.
1370
01:07:03,295 --> 01:07:05,435
A higher dose
would've been deadly.
1371
01:07:05,469 --> 01:07:08,024
[tense music]
1372
01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:14,306
- There's really
no interest or care
1373
01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:16,653
for how the victims feel.
1374
01:07:16,687 --> 01:07:21,761
But he's not doing
it specifically
because he's a sadist,
1375
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:24,212
or at least he would say
that's not the reason.
1376
01:07:24,247 --> 01:07:27,457
It's because he wants to
see how the poisons work.
1377
01:07:27,491 --> 01:07:30,770
And he enjoys the power
that it gives him.
1378
01:07:30,805 --> 01:07:32,255
So the power of life and death,
1379
01:07:32,289 --> 01:07:34,395
deciding who will
live, who will die,
1380
01:07:34,429 --> 01:07:36,121
how long all of this will take.
1381
01:07:36,155 --> 01:07:38,778
So yes, there's an
element of sadism in it,
1382
01:07:38,813 --> 01:07:41,816
but from his perspective,
he's a scientist.
1383
01:07:43,783 --> 01:07:45,095
- [VO] November 1st.
1384
01:07:45,130 --> 01:07:47,891
I can as yet report
little of "F."
1385
01:07:47,925 --> 01:07:49,410
He was not at work today,
1386
01:07:49,444 --> 01:07:52,206
and his wife telephoned to
say that he had caught a "bug"
1387
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,863
and that she was taking
him to the doctor.
1388
01:07:54,898 --> 01:07:57,763
As the dosage was divided
into three separate quantities
1389
01:07:57,797 --> 01:07:59,868
spanning a period of 24 hours,
1390
01:07:59,903 --> 01:08:02,906
the onset was likely to
have been less dramatic,
1391
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:05,391
but a quite sudden deterioration
1392
01:08:05,426 --> 01:08:07,911
is to be expected
leading to paralysis,
1393
01:08:07,945 --> 01:08:11,432
organic brain disease,
and death within a week.
1394
01:08:11,466 --> 01:08:14,366
I shall be interested to see
what transpires tomorrow.
1395
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,334
[dramatic music]
1396
01:08:17,369 --> 01:08:19,302
- He is very technical
in what he's writing.
1397
01:08:19,336 --> 01:08:22,650
It's very cold. You know,
it's very short sentences.
1398
01:08:22,684 --> 01:08:25,273
And I think he's writing
almost a sort of textbook,
1399
01:08:25,308 --> 01:08:28,138
a handbook, for
himself or for others,
1400
01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:30,071
you know, if they want to
replicate this behaviour
1401
01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:31,072
in the future.
1402
01:08:33,316 --> 01:08:36,388
- [VO] November 3rd.
"F" is no better.
1403
01:08:36,422 --> 01:08:38,700
Apparently his symptoms
are, at present,
1404
01:08:38,735 --> 01:08:41,047
principally gastrointestinal.
1405
01:08:41,082 --> 01:08:44,120
This should extend to
include neurological symptoms
1406
01:08:44,154 --> 01:08:46,225
within a very short time now.
1407
01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:49,159
Such symptoms normally develop
within four or five days
1408
01:08:49,194 --> 01:08:52,300
from the onset of
gastro-enteric upset.
1409
01:08:52,335 --> 01:08:55,821
His doctor apparently believes
that the illness is identical
1410
01:08:55,855 --> 01:08:58,064
to an outbreak of
vomiting and diarrhoea,
1411
01:08:58,099 --> 01:09:00,412
which is presently
sweeping the area.
1412
01:09:00,446 --> 01:09:02,068
- Graham was very
critical of the way
1413
01:09:02,103 --> 01:09:04,485
that the doctors were
caring for his victims,
1414
01:09:04,519 --> 01:09:06,728
the courses of action
that they were taking.
1415
01:09:06,763 --> 01:09:09,800
And again, this really just
shows his kind of snobbishness
1416
01:09:09,835 --> 01:09:11,285
for those experts.
1417
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,425
The fact that he thinks
that he knows better.
1418
01:09:13,459 --> 01:09:15,806
Because of course, by this
time, he is a specialist.
1419
01:09:15,841 --> 01:09:18,361
He is an expert in
administering poison.
1420
01:09:18,395 --> 01:09:20,984
So he probably
has more knowledge
1421
01:09:21,018 --> 01:09:22,572
than the professionals
do themselves
1422
01:09:22,606 --> 01:09:24,436
in this particular area.
1423
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:27,749
- [VO] November 17th.
I'm most annoyed.
1424
01:09:27,784 --> 01:09:29,199
The latest news
from the hospital
1425
01:09:29,234 --> 01:09:32,375
is they think "F" is beginning
to respond to treatment.
1426
01:09:32,409 --> 01:09:34,411
Of course, they're
not yet certain
1427
01:09:34,446 --> 01:09:36,482
and a relapse is
quite on the cards,
1428
01:09:36,517 --> 01:09:38,933
but it is still
extremely annoying.
1429
01:09:38,967 --> 01:09:41,315
He's surviving far too long.
1430
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:45,042
For my peace of mind, it is
imperative that he passes on
1431
01:09:45,077 --> 01:09:48,011
before total alopecia sets in.
1432
01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:50,945
There is little of
interest other than this.
1433
01:09:50,979 --> 01:09:53,119
I hope that my next entry
records the fulfilment
1434
01:09:53,154 --> 01:09:55,329
of my wishes, or
at the very least,
1435
01:09:55,363 --> 01:09:58,055
a sharp decline
in F's condition.
1436
01:09:59,022 --> 01:10:00,230
- Thallium poisoning is one
1437
01:10:00,265 --> 01:10:04,269
of the most complex
toxicities known to man.
1438
01:10:04,303 --> 01:10:05,960
Within the first few hours,
1439
01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:08,549
you would see more
nonspecific symptoms,
1440
01:10:08,583 --> 01:10:12,000
like vomiting, diarrhoea,
stomach cramps.
1441
01:10:12,035 --> 01:10:13,381
After two to five days,
1442
01:10:13,416 --> 01:10:16,177
you'll start getting a
few more serious symptoms,
1443
01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:18,248
and that's when the nerves
1444
01:10:18,283 --> 01:10:20,561
in your extremities
start being affected.
1445
01:10:20,595 --> 01:10:25,497
So you start getting tingly,
you start getting pain,
1446
01:10:25,531 --> 01:10:28,569
you start getting
your balance affected,
1447
01:10:28,603 --> 01:10:32,435
and you get almost a burning,
very sharp pain in your feet,
1448
01:10:32,469 --> 01:10:34,713
your hands, up your legs.
1449
01:10:34,747 --> 01:10:39,407
After two weeks,
the motor control
progressively gets worse,
1450
01:10:39,442 --> 01:10:41,547
so it'll start affecting
your whole body.
1451
01:10:41,582 --> 01:10:45,344
And of course, when it starts
affecting your motor control,
1452
01:10:45,379 --> 01:10:48,313
it can also start to affect
your heart, your lungs,
1453
01:10:48,347 --> 01:10:50,556
and that's when it
can become lethal.
1454
01:10:50,591 --> 01:10:53,559
[gentle music]
1455
01:10:53,594 --> 01:10:55,181
I think it would've
been very horrible
1456
01:10:55,216 --> 01:10:58,081
and prolonged as well,
1457
01:10:58,115 --> 01:11:01,291
because it wouldn't be something
that kills you right away.
1458
01:11:01,326 --> 01:11:02,672
So it would've been a few weeks
1459
01:11:02,706 --> 01:11:05,778
of this pain getting
progressively worse,
1460
01:11:05,813 --> 01:11:08,988
and people not being able to
identify what was causing it.
1461
01:11:10,127 --> 01:11:12,302
- [Narrator] Care and
proficiency are demanded
1462
01:11:12,337 --> 01:11:14,718
by the very nature of his work,
1463
01:11:14,753 --> 01:11:16,824
by the knowledge
that in his hands
1464
01:11:16,858 --> 01:11:20,310
is the balance between
sickness and health.
1465
01:11:20,345 --> 01:11:22,933
Sometimes between
life and death.
1466
01:11:25,315 --> 01:11:28,767
- I was sent to see Mrs. Egle
1467
01:11:28,801 --> 01:11:33,565
to get her permission
to exhume the ashes.
1468
01:11:33,599 --> 01:11:36,809
I was very worried
because it was a big thing
1469
01:11:36,844 --> 01:11:40,054
to have to tell a
widow who had believed
1470
01:11:40,088 --> 01:11:41,987
that he died naturally,
1471
01:11:42,021 --> 01:11:45,473
that in fact it was believed
he may have been poisoned.
1472
01:11:45,508 --> 01:11:47,406
I was anxious all the way.
1473
01:11:49,374 --> 01:11:51,376
It wasn't very
nice news to give,
1474
01:11:51,410 --> 01:11:55,449
but she was very good
and very calm, really.
1475
01:11:55,483 --> 01:11:58,314
She'd accepted the fact
that he had died, you know,
1476
01:11:59,660 --> 01:12:02,490
so it wasn't as difficult
as it might have been.
1477
01:12:02,525 --> 01:12:03,940
I was able to get the statement
1478
01:12:03,974 --> 01:12:08,393
and to get permission from
her to exhume his ashes.
1479
01:12:08,427 --> 01:12:11,050
Luckily, they had
not been spread.
1480
01:12:11,085 --> 01:12:12,845
- Subsequently, of course,
1481
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,954
in Mr. Egle's ashes
was found thallium.
1482
01:12:19,196 --> 01:12:21,164
- For the first time in
British criminal history,
1483
01:12:21,198 --> 01:12:25,824
evidence was based on traces
of poison found in the ashes.
1484
01:12:25,858 --> 01:12:27,964
And that was the first time ever
1485
01:12:27,998 --> 01:12:31,347
such a thing had been done
during a murder inquiry.
1486
01:12:31,381 --> 01:12:32,727
- It is absolutely fair to say
1487
01:12:32,762 --> 01:12:34,833
that had his ashes
actually been scattered
1488
01:12:34,867 --> 01:12:36,421
following his funeral,
1489
01:12:36,455 --> 01:12:38,146
his murder would never
have been detected,
1490
01:12:38,181 --> 01:12:42,461
exactly as Molly's murder
was never properly detected.
1491
01:12:43,566 --> 01:12:46,362
- I went to see Fred Biggs' wife
1492
01:12:46,396 --> 01:12:49,123
to get as detailed
statement from her,
1493
01:12:49,917 --> 01:12:51,746
which covered all his illnesses
1494
01:12:51,781 --> 01:12:54,853
from the time he
first became sick.
1495
01:12:54,887 --> 01:12:56,233
- Fred Biggs' family were told
1496
01:12:56,268 --> 01:12:57,511
that they couldn't bury him yet
1497
01:12:57,545 --> 01:12:59,892
because of the
ongoing investigation.
1498
01:12:59,927 --> 01:13:02,516
Of course, he was
subject to an autopsy.
1499
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:05,104
And when they examined
his internal organs
1500
01:13:05,139 --> 01:13:07,900
and subject them to
toxicological analysis,
1501
01:13:07,935 --> 01:13:09,799
thallium is detected.
1502
01:13:09,833 --> 01:13:12,733
- We knew then that we
definitely had two murders
1503
01:13:12,767 --> 01:13:13,734
on our hands.
1504
01:13:13,768 --> 01:13:16,392
[sombre music]
1505
01:13:18,428 --> 01:13:21,120
- Normally, I wouldn't remember
1506
01:13:21,155 --> 01:13:26,229
who I met for the first
time 52 years ago,
1507
01:13:27,541 --> 01:13:30,164
but obviously, Graham Young
made quite an impact on me.
1508
01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:32,994
He was sitting in what
was quite a small cell
1509
01:13:33,029 --> 01:13:34,548
at the bottom of
the police station.
1510
01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:36,550
He was extremely polite.
1511
01:13:36,584 --> 01:13:40,657
He was a small man,
sharpish features,
1512
01:13:40,692 --> 01:13:44,972
very similar to the photograph
which he wanted published
1513
01:13:45,006 --> 01:13:48,251
because he thought it made
him look, I don't know, evil.
1514
01:13:48,285 --> 01:13:49,597
But the fact of the matter
1515
01:13:49,632 --> 01:13:51,979
is he actually looked
like that all of the time.
1516
01:13:52,013 --> 01:13:53,670
- [VO] I'll tell you
about the two deaths
1517
01:13:53,705 --> 01:13:55,638
and about the sickness
of the other two.
1518
01:13:55,672 --> 01:13:57,985
I cannot tell you
the agent I used.
1519
01:13:58,019 --> 01:14:00,677
The whole story is too terrible.
1520
01:14:00,712 --> 01:14:03,369
You'll be disgusted and amazed.
1521
01:14:03,404 --> 01:14:06,821
- His interview, he was really
toying with the officers
1522
01:14:06,856 --> 01:14:10,135
and playing on the
fact that his knowledge
1523
01:14:10,169 --> 01:14:12,586
of poisons was such
that, you know,
1524
01:14:12,620 --> 01:14:17,487
none of us would've been aware
of the effects of poison.
1525
01:14:18,833 --> 01:14:20,041
- Graham was in his element.
1526
01:14:20,076 --> 01:14:22,665
He was cocky, he was proud.
1527
01:14:22,699 --> 01:14:25,081
He wanted to explain to
the police the effects
1528
01:14:25,115 --> 01:14:28,567
of these poisons, and he wanted
someone who would listen.
1529
01:14:28,602 --> 01:14:31,397
And that's interesting,
very interesting.
1530
01:14:31,432 --> 01:14:34,228
Because he was rather
proud of his achievements,
1531
01:14:34,262 --> 01:14:35,919
and he wanted to share them.
1532
01:14:35,954 --> 01:14:39,751
Probably he wanted to just
show off a little bit.
1533
01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,856
- He might have
tried to convince me
1534
01:14:43,409 --> 01:14:48,207
or educate me on poisons
and their effects,
1535
01:14:48,242 --> 01:14:52,108
et cetera, but it
wasn't my interest.
1536
01:14:52,142 --> 01:14:54,835
[sombre music]
1537
01:14:54,869 --> 01:14:56,250
- In questioning Graham,
1538
01:14:56,284 --> 01:14:58,563
the police had noted
that his diary referred
1539
01:14:58,597 --> 01:15:02,498
to having observed two
previously fatal cases.
1540
01:15:04,154 --> 01:15:06,778
- [VO] The case
interests me greatly
1541
01:15:06,812 --> 01:15:09,608
as it affords me an opportunity
to observe the effects
1542
01:15:09,643 --> 01:15:11,714
of a sub lethal dosage.
1543
01:15:14,371 --> 01:15:16,650
My previous experience
of the drug has been only
1544
01:15:16,684 --> 01:15:19,549
of lethal doses, which
in both instances led
1545
01:15:19,584 --> 01:15:21,827
to rapid deterioration
and death.
1546
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,073
- At the point at which this
entry in the diary was made,
1547
01:15:26,107 --> 01:15:28,593
only Bob Egle had died.
1548
01:15:28,627 --> 01:15:32,182
So the police were wondering,
who is the other victim?
1549
01:15:32,217 --> 01:15:35,082
And Graham confessed.
It was my stepmother.
1550
01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:38,050
- [VO and Katherine] I killed
her with thallium in 1962.
1551
01:15:39,811 --> 01:15:41,467
- During the inquiry,
1552
01:15:41,502 --> 01:15:45,782
it was known that Young's
stepmother had died
1553
01:15:45,817 --> 01:15:47,646
when he was about 13.
1554
01:15:47,681 --> 01:15:51,926
It was decided initially
to look at this again.
1555
01:15:51,961 --> 01:15:54,032
For whatever reason, thereafter,
1556
01:15:54,066 --> 01:15:56,759
which was above my station,
1557
01:15:56,793 --> 01:15:59,106
it was decided not to pursue it.
1558
01:15:59,969 --> 01:16:01,557
He was charged, obviously,
1559
01:16:01,591 --> 01:16:05,491
first with the
murder of Mr. Biggs,
1560
01:16:05,526 --> 01:16:10,566
and subsequently with
the murder of Mr. Egle;
1561
01:16:11,394 --> 01:16:15,087
and then two attempted murders
1562
01:16:15,122 --> 01:16:20,196
by poisoning with thallium on
David Tilson and Jethro Batt.
1563
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,649
He was also charged
with various offences
1564
01:16:24,683 --> 01:16:29,136
of administering poison
to other employees.
1565
01:16:31,138 --> 01:16:34,106
- Although the charges
were quite complicated
1566
01:16:34,141 --> 01:16:36,212
and obviously
very, very serious,
1567
01:16:37,593 --> 01:16:40,561
Graham Young understood exactly
what he was charged with.
1568
01:16:41,666 --> 01:16:43,875
He totally understood
the level of evidence
1569
01:16:43,909 --> 01:16:46,118
that had to be
found against him,
1570
01:16:46,153 --> 01:16:49,570
that he had to be found guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt.
1571
01:16:49,605 --> 01:16:50,882
And even more so,
1572
01:16:50,916 --> 01:16:53,643
he understood the technical
side of the trial.
1573
01:16:53,678 --> 01:16:54,886
By that I mean, of course,
1574
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,406
the scientific evidence,
the chemical evidence,
1575
01:16:58,441 --> 01:17:01,755
and the details of the
finding of the poisons
1576
01:17:01,789 --> 01:17:03,826
in either the
bodies or the ashes
1577
01:17:03,860 --> 01:17:05,344
of the individuals involved.
1578
01:17:06,587 --> 01:17:08,900
- [Mr. Harvey] Do
you feel any remorse?
1579
01:17:10,142 --> 01:17:13,421
- [VO] No, Mr. Harvey,
that would be hypocritical.
1580
01:17:13,456 --> 01:17:17,011
What I feel is
emptiness of my soul.
1581
01:17:17,046 --> 01:17:21,602
- In those days, if you
were charged with an offence
1582
01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:26,227
and were remanded in custody,
you had to be returned
1583
01:17:26,262 --> 01:17:30,300
to the magistrate's court
every week to be resentenced,
1584
01:17:30,335 --> 01:17:31,439
so to speak.
1585
01:17:31,474 --> 01:17:33,096
So Young would be coming back.
1586
01:17:33,131 --> 01:17:37,100
He would be taken by prison
van from Brixton Prison.
1587
01:17:37,135 --> 01:17:41,553
I always remember when he'd
come back after the Christmas,
1588
01:17:41,587 --> 01:17:44,107
said, "Oh, Graham, how
did your Christmas go?"
1589
01:17:44,142 --> 01:17:46,523
And he would never give
you a straight answer.
1590
01:17:47,732 --> 01:17:50,942
But he sort of thought
for a while and then said,
1591
01:17:52,219 --> 01:17:55,118
"Well, let me put it this way.
1592
01:17:55,153 --> 01:17:58,639
It wouldn't have done
Cromwell justice."
1593
01:17:58,674 --> 01:18:00,917
And I'm still thinking
about that, what he meant.
1594
01:18:00,952 --> 01:18:03,506
[sombre music]
1595
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:06,026
- It was my job to go
and see Graham Young
1596
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:07,752
at Brixton Prison.
1597
01:18:07,786 --> 01:18:09,374
And I used to do
that, I would think,
1598
01:18:09,408 --> 01:18:12,273
probably two or
three times a month.
1599
01:18:12,308 --> 01:18:14,310
One day, to my surprise,
1600
01:18:14,344 --> 01:18:18,832
Graham produced a tube of
sweets from his jacket pocket
1601
01:18:19,798 --> 01:18:20,868
and offered me one.
1602
01:18:22,214 --> 01:18:26,563
Now, this was an interesting
situation for me.
1603
01:18:26,598 --> 01:18:28,220
So I looked at him.
1604
01:18:28,255 --> 01:18:29,601
I thought, "This man's charged
1605
01:18:29,635 --> 01:18:32,708
with poisoning his
family and his friends."
1606
01:18:32,742 --> 01:18:34,640
And as I looked at him, he said,
1607
01:18:34,675 --> 01:18:36,884
"Peter, what are
you worried about?
1608
01:18:36,919 --> 01:18:40,060
You don't think that I'd
poison my lawyer, do you?"
1609
01:18:40,094 --> 01:18:43,753
And I said, "Well,
no, maybe not."
1610
01:18:44,996 --> 01:18:46,480
And I think the only thing
that makes sense here
1611
01:18:46,514 --> 01:18:50,898
with my reaction is that I
was nearly 22 at the time.
1612
01:18:51,934 --> 01:18:54,005
I was a young, macho man,
1613
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:57,353
and I wasn't going to have
him have one over on me.
1614
01:18:57,387 --> 01:19:01,288
So I took the sweet,
I ate it, I went home,
1615
01:19:01,322 --> 01:19:03,704
and I stayed as close to a
telephone as I possibly could
1616
01:19:03,739 --> 01:19:05,430
for the next 48 hours.
1617
01:19:05,464 --> 01:19:07,604
[sombre music]
1618
01:19:07,639 --> 01:19:10,193
- [VO] At present, I
exist in a sort of limbo,
1619
01:19:12,609 --> 01:19:15,716
my remand having finished
and my trial yet to come.
1620
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:19,340
I can imagine how
anxious you are
1621
01:19:19,375 --> 01:19:21,308
to see the whole
thing finished with.
1622
01:19:22,792 --> 01:19:26,589
I too wish to see the end
of this unfortunate episode.
1623
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:29,834
I trust that it
will end in victory.
1624
01:19:29,868 --> 01:19:32,043
The alternative would
be the finish of me.
1625
01:19:33,907 --> 01:19:36,288
- In the intervening decades
since his first trial
1626
01:19:36,323 --> 01:19:38,981
at the Old Bailey, Graham
had learned a thing or two.
1627
01:19:39,015 --> 01:19:41,466
In 1962, he pleaded guilty,
1628
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:43,813
and there was therefore
very little publicity.
1629
01:19:43,848 --> 01:19:47,817
In 1972, he deliberately
pleaded not guilty
1630
01:19:47,852 --> 01:19:50,716
so that there would be
a trial in open court.
1631
01:19:50,751 --> 01:19:52,028
And of course, it was subject
1632
01:19:52,063 --> 01:19:54,306
to a lot of
journalistic interest.
1633
01:19:54,341 --> 01:19:56,550
- I think that he's
actually quite narcissistic
1634
01:19:56,584 --> 01:19:57,827
and quite arrogant,
1635
01:19:57,862 --> 01:20:00,243
and I think he wanted
the glory of the trial.
1636
01:20:00,278 --> 01:20:02,038
- Maybe he was
thinking that he wanted
1637
01:20:02,073 --> 01:20:05,386
to go down in history, just
like his childhood idols,
1638
01:20:05,421 --> 01:20:07,526
William Palmer and Dr. Crippen,
1639
01:20:07,561 --> 01:20:11,461
both of whom still were
talked about, really,
1640
01:20:11,496 --> 01:20:12,911
even by members of the public.
1641
01:20:12,946 --> 01:20:16,570
I think Graham wanted to be
better known than they were,
1642
01:20:16,604 --> 01:20:18,261
for everyone to know his name.
1643
01:20:18,296 --> 01:20:21,678
That was his ultimate goal.
He's reverting back to type.
1644
01:20:21,713 --> 01:20:24,958
He's always wanted to
be a famous poisoner,
1645
01:20:24,992 --> 01:20:26,891
like a comic book villain,
1646
01:20:26,925 --> 01:20:30,722
and he wants the world to
know what he has achieved.
1647
01:20:30,756 --> 01:20:32,517
- [VO] Make me so
famous that I wind up
1648
01:20:32,551 --> 01:20:35,451
in the Chamber of Horrors
at Madame Tussauds.
1649
01:20:35,485 --> 01:20:39,765
I want to go down in history
as a really famous murderer.
1650
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:44,391
- Graham Young's demeanour
at the trial was interesting
1651
01:20:44,425 --> 01:20:47,221
because he was
confident throughout.
1652
01:20:48,326 --> 01:20:50,846
He was confident
because of his knowledge
1653
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,986
of the various issues involved.
1654
01:20:53,020 --> 01:20:55,816
He was confident because of
his knowledge of the products
1655
01:20:55,851 --> 01:20:58,681
that he was supposed to
have poisoned people with.
1656
01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:01,822
And I think, above
all, he was confident
1657
01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:04,066
because he was exactly
where he wanted to be
1658
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:06,137
at that particular time:
1659
01:21:06,171 --> 01:21:09,381
at the centre of attention
of a serious trial.
1660
01:21:10,969 --> 01:21:13,592
- Graham's trial
started in June 1972
1661
01:21:13,627 --> 01:21:15,456
at St. Albans Crown Court,
1662
01:21:15,491 --> 01:21:17,734
and the police
felt quite certain
1663
01:21:17,769 --> 01:21:21,359
that the diary was going
to be foolproof evidence
1664
01:21:21,393 --> 01:21:23,464
to convict this serial poisoner.
1665
01:21:24,431 --> 01:21:26,019
- [VO] It is set
out in diary form,
1666
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:28,262
but it is not a number of
entries set out over a period
1667
01:21:28,297 --> 01:21:29,885
of days or weeks.
1668
01:21:29,919 --> 01:21:33,026
It is a document which was
completed on one occasion.
1669
01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:36,132
The diary, as it were, was
the exposition of a theory,
1670
01:21:36,167 --> 01:21:39,480
not one I seriously held,
a somewhat fanciful one,
1671
01:21:39,515 --> 01:21:42,311
which I outlined for
my own amusement,
1672
01:21:42,345 --> 01:21:44,347
although that's not
a very apt word.
1673
01:21:45,762 --> 01:21:50,319
- The excuse he
gave for his diary,
1674
01:21:50,353 --> 01:21:51,596
as it was called,
1675
01:21:51,630 --> 01:21:54,910
was that he was
considering writing a book.
1676
01:21:56,290 --> 01:21:57,705
And these were just notes.
1677
01:21:57,740 --> 01:22:00,950
He was using his workmates just
1678
01:22:00,985 --> 01:22:05,921
as possible victims in the book.
1679
01:22:06,991 --> 01:22:08,509
- [VO] The illnesses
were unusual in origin,
1680
01:22:08,544 --> 01:22:11,616
and many of us were naturally
concerned to know their cause.
1681
01:22:12,582 --> 01:22:14,343
A number of things
sprang to mind,
1682
01:22:14,377 --> 01:22:16,345
one being virus infection.
1683
01:22:16,379 --> 01:22:18,140
Something that also
sprang to mind,
1684
01:22:18,174 --> 01:22:20,901
well, to my mind, at any rate,
1685
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:23,179
was the similarity
of symptoms displayed
1686
01:22:23,214 --> 01:22:24,456
by people at the firm
1687
01:22:24,491 --> 01:22:27,666
and the symptoms of
heavy metal poisoning.
1688
01:22:27,701 --> 01:22:31,118
In consequence, I decided
to elaborate my theory
1689
01:22:31,153 --> 01:22:32,671
and suggest circumstances
1690
01:22:32,706 --> 01:22:35,122
under which these things
could have come about.
1691
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:40,093
- Without a doubt, this
so-called diary wasn't a diary,
1692
01:22:40,127 --> 01:22:42,578
it was all written on one day,
1693
01:22:42,612 --> 01:22:45,443
and that it was meant to be
the beginning or the basis
1694
01:22:45,477 --> 01:22:48,239
for a work of fiction
that he was gonna write.
1695
01:22:48,273 --> 01:22:51,173
- [Narrator] The chemist is
the optimist of the world.
1696
01:22:51,207 --> 01:22:53,002
For him, there is
no stick or stone,
1697
01:22:53,037 --> 01:22:56,385
but what may yield, under
analysis and synthesis,
1698
01:22:56,419 --> 01:22:59,250
the promise of some
great sickness cured.
1699
01:22:59,284 --> 01:23:00,527
[sombre music]
1700
01:23:00,561 --> 01:23:02,391
- The prosecution's case was
1701
01:23:02,425 --> 01:23:05,014
that he had bought these poisons
1702
01:23:05,049 --> 01:23:07,568
for the purposes of
poisoning individuals.
1703
01:23:07,603 --> 01:23:10,882
Graham always said that
he had the chemicals,
1704
01:23:10,916 --> 01:23:13,505
he preferred that word
rather than poisons,
1705
01:23:13,540 --> 01:23:14,644
with him for the purpose
1706
01:23:14,679 --> 01:23:17,199
of carrying out
chemistry experiments,
1707
01:23:17,233 --> 01:23:21,030
which, as we know, he had
been doing right and wrong
1708
01:23:21,065 --> 01:23:22,342
for many years by then.
1709
01:23:22,376 --> 01:23:24,447
The most interesting
part of the trial was
1710
01:23:24,482 --> 01:23:28,727
when Graham Young was
cross-examined by Mr. Leonard,
1711
01:23:28,762 --> 01:23:31,385
who was the QC representing
the prosecution.
1712
01:23:31,420 --> 01:23:33,663
- Graham did show
off his intellect,
1713
01:23:33,698 --> 01:23:35,527
and he was actually
quite bright,
1714
01:23:35,562 --> 01:23:39,738
by making the prosecuting
barrister look a complete idiot
1715
01:23:39,773 --> 01:23:44,226
by asking him a question
something along the lines of,
1716
01:23:44,260 --> 01:23:47,332
"Do you really believe
that a serial poisoner
1717
01:23:47,367 --> 01:23:49,852
would do such a
thing, Your Honour?"
1718
01:23:50,922 --> 01:23:52,268
And the barrister
said, "I don't know.
1719
01:23:52,303 --> 01:23:55,616
I've never met a
serial poisoner."
1720
01:23:55,651 --> 01:23:58,136
And Graham said,
"Thank you, sir."
1721
01:23:59,655 --> 01:24:01,381
- And he bowed at him.
1722
01:24:01,415 --> 01:24:02,899
And Mr. Leonard,
1723
01:24:02,934 --> 01:24:05,868
obviously realising that Graham
had got the better of him,
1724
01:24:05,902 --> 01:24:09,975
suddenly shuffled his papers,
made some general remarks,
1725
01:24:10,010 --> 01:24:12,219
and backed away from the battle.
1726
01:24:12,254 --> 01:24:14,497
It was an extraordinary
experience.
1727
01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:18,191
There's no doubt at all that
Graham Young enjoyed his trial.
1728
01:24:18,225 --> 01:24:21,539
It was generally a situation
that almost his whole life
1729
01:24:21,573 --> 01:24:23,679
had been leading
up to, I suspect.
1730
01:24:23,713 --> 01:24:25,474
And he made the best of it.
1731
01:24:25,508 --> 01:24:26,889
- I think in court,
1732
01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:30,168
Graham is showcasing the
classic signs of a psychopath.
1733
01:24:30,203 --> 01:24:33,654
You know, he's
arrogant, he's detached.
1734
01:24:33,689 --> 01:24:36,174
He's enjoying his notoriety.
1735
01:24:36,209 --> 01:24:39,384
He's feeling superior to others.
1736
01:24:39,419 --> 01:24:42,284
You know, he's revelling
in this type of attention,
1737
01:24:42,318 --> 01:24:43,630
but he's also snobbish.
1738
01:24:43,664 --> 01:24:45,494
You know, he believes
he knows better.
1739
01:24:45,528 --> 01:24:46,978
He believes he's above the law,
1740
01:24:47,012 --> 01:24:49,532
because until this point,
he has been above the law.
1741
01:24:49,567 --> 01:24:51,465
Why would this time
be any different?
1742
01:24:52,259 --> 01:24:53,605
- And so this afternoon,
1743
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,574
a quiet, intelligent,
rather studious young man
1744
01:24:56,608 --> 01:25:00,647
of 24 joined the shortlist of
notorious British poisoners
1745
01:25:00,681 --> 01:25:01,751
through the ages.
1746
01:25:01,786 --> 01:25:03,374
One can now add
the name of the man
1747
01:25:03,408 --> 01:25:06,894
who studied and idolised
them all, Graham Young.
1748
01:25:06,929 --> 01:25:12,003
- He was found guilty on
six of the eight charges,
1749
01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:15,282
and he was sentenced
to life imprisonment.
1750
01:25:15,317 --> 01:25:17,457
- One of the main parts
of his instructions
1751
01:25:17,491 --> 01:25:21,461
to us was that in the
event he was found guilty,
1752
01:25:21,495 --> 01:25:24,774
and obviously, a custodial
sentence was inevitable,
1753
01:25:24,809 --> 01:25:26,949
that he would go
to a normal prison
1754
01:25:26,983 --> 01:25:30,055
and not be sent back
to a mental hospital.
1755
01:25:30,090 --> 01:25:33,611
When he got the verdict
of a life sentence
1756
01:25:33,645 --> 01:25:36,303
and being committed
to a normal prison,
1757
01:25:36,338 --> 01:25:38,374
he was, strangely enough,
1758
01:25:38,409 --> 01:25:41,377
extremely happy
with that verdict.
1759
01:25:41,412 --> 01:25:43,276
Bearing in mind that
he'd been found guilty,
1760
01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:45,416
it was exactly what he wanted.
1761
01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:47,245
So maybe even at the
end of the trial,
1762
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,867
he got his way as well.
1763
01:25:48,902 --> 01:25:51,905
- I think the fact that
Graham was very keen
1764
01:25:51,939 --> 01:25:53,355
to go to a prison rather
1765
01:25:53,389 --> 01:25:56,461
than a mental institution
really highlights the fact
1766
01:25:56,496 --> 01:25:59,740
that he was very, very
keen to be seen as evil.
1767
01:25:59,775 --> 01:26:02,847
You know, this criminal
mastermind who, you know,
1768
01:26:02,881 --> 01:26:04,780
was in full control
of what he's doing.
1769
01:26:04,814 --> 01:26:07,023
He was very rational about that.
1770
01:26:07,058 --> 01:26:09,025
You know, he didn't want
to be seen as someone
1771
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:11,925
who was suffering from severe
mental health problems.
1772
01:26:11,959 --> 01:26:13,168
Because then, of course,
1773
01:26:13,202 --> 01:26:15,894
he's labelled as sick
and ill and crazy
1774
01:26:15,929 --> 01:26:19,277
when he wants to be fully
in control of the situation.
1775
01:26:19,312 --> 01:26:21,417
He wants to be the
evil mastermind.
1776
01:26:22,763 --> 01:26:25,145
- Because of the
legal requirements,
1777
01:26:25,180 --> 01:26:27,561
the Broadmoor history
could not be revealed
1778
01:26:27,596 --> 01:26:29,045
at the trial itself
1779
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,809
because it would obviously
be prejudicial information.
1780
01:26:35,190 --> 01:26:37,537
And so the jury was completely
ignorant of Graham's past
1781
01:26:37,571 --> 01:26:41,334
when they actually came to
their conclusions about him.
1782
01:26:41,368 --> 01:26:42,714
- At that particular point,
1783
01:26:42,749 --> 01:26:44,751
it was announced
that Graham Young
1784
01:26:44,785 --> 01:26:49,307
not only had previous
convictions for
poisoning people,
1785
01:26:49,342 --> 01:26:52,379
but also that he had been
released from Broadmoor after,
1786
01:26:52,414 --> 01:26:55,348
I think, less than
10 years in there,
1787
01:26:56,763 --> 01:27:01,112
with his psychiatrist stating
that he was no longer a risk.
1788
01:27:01,146 --> 01:27:05,910
Obviously, this was gonna cause
a major political clamour,
1789
01:27:05,944 --> 01:27:07,291
and this duly happened.
1790
01:27:07,325 --> 01:27:08,878
- Immediately after the case,
1791
01:27:08,913 --> 01:27:11,674
the home secretary,
Reginald Maudling,
1792
01:27:11,709 --> 01:27:14,401
instigated a review
of the procedures
1793
01:27:14,436 --> 01:27:17,024
for releasing prisoners
from Broadmoor
1794
01:27:17,059 --> 01:27:19,786
and other similar institutions.
1795
01:27:19,820 --> 01:27:23,272
The reforms also
included new measures
1796
01:27:23,307 --> 01:27:28,346
regarding the sale of
poisons over the counter.
1797
01:27:29,485 --> 01:27:30,935
- There's a catalogue of
mistakes that occurred
1798
01:27:30,969 --> 01:27:34,352
that allowed Graham to go on
his second poisoning spree
1799
01:27:34,387 --> 01:27:36,251
after he left Broadmoor.
1800
01:27:36,285 --> 01:27:39,150
The most obvious one is
a lack of communication.
1801
01:27:39,184 --> 01:27:43,154
I think that the authorities
should have had more
1802
01:27:43,188 --> 01:27:45,536
of an effort to kind of
communicate with each other,
1803
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:48,366
to let probation,
the police services,
1804
01:27:48,401 --> 01:27:52,094
even his potential future
employers know about his history
1805
01:27:52,128 --> 01:27:53,716
to keep everybody safe.
1806
01:27:55,339 --> 01:27:56,685
- I think, in retrospect,
1807
01:27:56,719 --> 01:28:01,137
that was the most staggering
aspect of the case.
1808
01:28:01,172 --> 01:28:03,899
That first of all, that
he had been released,
1809
01:28:03,933 --> 01:28:06,177
and should never
have been released.
1810
01:28:06,211 --> 01:28:10,181
Even his own father argued
against his release.
1811
01:28:10,215 --> 01:28:13,943
But nevertheless,
the psychiatrists at
Broadmoor insisted
1812
01:28:13,978 --> 01:28:16,049
that he was perfectly safe.
1813
01:28:16,083 --> 01:28:18,189
There wasn't even
a pause, really,
1814
01:28:18,223 --> 01:28:21,744
between his release
from Broadmoor
1815
01:28:21,779 --> 01:28:23,367
and his poisoning activities.
1816
01:28:23,401 --> 01:28:24,954
I mean, he went
straight back into it.
1817
01:28:24,989 --> 01:28:28,682
It was perfectly natural
for him to do that.
1818
01:28:28,717 --> 01:28:31,582
And I think that's really
the one feature of the case
1819
01:28:31,616 --> 01:28:34,964
that people were appalled about.
1820
01:28:34,999 --> 01:28:36,656
And I think that's
why the government
1821
01:28:36,690 --> 01:28:39,072
of the day took it so seriously
1822
01:28:39,106 --> 01:28:42,800
and instantly introduced reforms
1823
01:28:42,834 --> 01:28:45,975
to make sure that such a
thing never happened again.
1824
01:28:46,010 --> 01:28:49,047
[grim music]
1825
01:28:49,082 --> 01:28:51,153
- Maybe 15 years
after the trial,
1826
01:28:52,361 --> 01:28:54,812
I went to Madame Tussauds
with my children.
1827
01:28:54,846 --> 01:28:56,331
I was in there looking around,
1828
01:28:56,365 --> 01:28:59,368
and I suddenly found myself
face to face with Graham Young,
1829
01:28:59,403 --> 01:29:01,059
life size and in wax.
1830
01:29:02,302 --> 01:29:05,167
I was totally shocked. I
had no idea he was there.
1831
01:29:05,201 --> 01:29:07,721
Wasn't somebody I'd
expected to see there,
1832
01:29:07,756 --> 01:29:10,345
and it was really a very,
very strange experience.
1833
01:29:13,106 --> 01:29:14,797
- The fact that he was there
1834
01:29:14,832 --> 01:29:17,386
alongside people like
Crippen and Palmer
1835
01:29:17,421 --> 01:29:18,767
and all the rest of them,
1836
01:29:18,801 --> 01:29:20,389
that might have appealed to him.
1837
01:29:20,424 --> 01:29:22,909
And I'm sure that gave
him much pleasure.
1838
01:29:22,943 --> 01:29:24,566
- Yeah, he's melted down now,
1839
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,672
which is the best idea
that could have happened.
1840
01:29:27,707 --> 01:29:30,365
- [Narrator] A solution may be
safe in a cylindrical vessel
1841
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:31,400
because of its shape.
1842
01:29:31,435 --> 01:29:33,160
But in a spherical one,
1843
01:29:34,438 --> 01:29:37,613
the result could be disastrous.
1844
01:29:37,648 --> 01:29:41,410
- Graham Young died
at the age of 42
1845
01:29:41,445 --> 01:29:45,518
of a heart attack whilst
in Parkhurst Prison.
1846
01:29:45,552 --> 01:29:47,520
There are many thoughts that he,
1847
01:29:47,554 --> 01:29:51,489
in fact, died of
poisoning himself.
1848
01:29:51,524 --> 01:29:56,598
- It's just possible that he
either died at his own hands,
1849
01:29:57,564 --> 01:29:59,497
or was poisoned
by his colleagues.
1850
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:01,810
I don't think there's any doubt
1851
01:30:01,844 --> 01:30:04,778
that there would've been a
lot of disquiet in the prison
1852
01:30:04,813 --> 01:30:06,470
about his presence.
1853
01:30:06,504 --> 01:30:08,437
- 42 does seem
exceptionally young
1854
01:30:08,472 --> 01:30:10,819
for somebody to
have a heart attack,
1855
01:30:10,853 --> 01:30:13,994
unless they've got some
sort of cardiac pathology.
1856
01:30:14,029 --> 01:30:15,444
So if he did poison himself,
1857
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,413
it almost seems like quite
a fitting end to the story.
1858
01:30:18,447 --> 01:30:20,484
It's almost like he's
managed to go full circle.
1859
01:30:20,518 --> 01:30:23,348
And if he managed
to do it in prison,
1860
01:30:23,383 --> 01:30:25,799
that's actually, you
know, quite clever.
1861
01:30:25,834 --> 01:30:27,801
It's quite an achievement to
be able to get the poison in
1862
01:30:27,836 --> 01:30:29,838
and to be able to do it in a way
1863
01:30:29,872 --> 01:30:32,944
that it wasn't detected
in the autopsy.
1864
01:30:32,979 --> 01:30:35,637
Almost feels like
one final achievement
1865
01:30:35,671 --> 01:30:38,916
in being able to
outwit the authorities.
1866
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:40,849
- The hardest
thing to understand
1867
01:30:40,883 --> 01:30:44,266
about this whole experience,
1868
01:30:44,300 --> 01:30:47,096
all the activities
of Graham Young,
1869
01:30:47,131 --> 01:30:49,202
what happened at home and
then later what happened
1870
01:30:49,236 --> 01:30:51,929
at Hadlands in Bovington,
1871
01:30:51,963 --> 01:30:53,931
is exactly why all
this was happening.
1872
01:30:55,553 --> 01:30:59,108
Most people kill people
or attempt to kill people
1873
01:30:59,143 --> 01:31:02,215
because they hate them,
1874
01:31:02,249 --> 01:31:04,320
are in a major
argument with them,
1875
01:31:04,355 --> 01:31:07,427
or need them gone for their
own financial benefit.
1876
01:31:07,462 --> 01:31:09,325
But Graham Young's
case was totally
1877
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,396
and utterly different
from all of those.
1878
01:31:11,431 --> 01:31:16,471
He was, in essence, a
scientist without any morals,
1879
01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:21,027
without any sense of
society or how to behave,
1880
01:31:21,061 --> 01:31:23,408
and basically started
poisoning people
1881
01:31:23,443 --> 01:31:25,756
for one reason and
one reason only:
1882
01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:28,310
to see the effect the poison,
1883
01:31:28,344 --> 01:31:31,382
and the different doses of it,
had upon individual people.
1884
01:31:32,694 --> 01:31:35,455
- [VO] You are suggesting
I'm some kind of monster,
1885
01:31:35,490 --> 01:31:39,355
a mass murderer who just
poisons people regardless.
1886
01:31:39,390 --> 01:31:41,737
This is not so.
1887
01:31:41,772 --> 01:31:44,360
I suppose I'd cease
to see them as people,
1888
01:31:44,395 --> 01:31:47,847
or, more correctly,
a part of me had.
1889
01:31:47,881 --> 01:31:49,849
They became Guinea pigs.
1890
01:31:50,884 --> 01:31:52,196
- You could look at him and see
1891
01:31:52,230 --> 01:31:55,061
that he was a wrong'un
in way or another,
1892
01:31:55,095 --> 01:31:57,442
and he did have a
sinister look about him.
1893
01:31:58,616 --> 01:32:01,101
And that's true of
most mass murderers,
1894
01:32:01,136 --> 01:32:03,276
really, when you think about it.
1895
01:32:03,310 --> 01:32:05,658
They rarely look like
choir boys, do they?
1896
01:32:05,692 --> 01:32:07,383
[sombre music]
1897
01:32:07,418 --> 01:32:10,835
- Graham didn't really see
1898
01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:14,563
that what he was doing was
utterly and completely wrong.
1899
01:32:15,564 --> 01:32:17,635
He was like every
other scientist.
1900
01:32:17,670 --> 01:32:19,775
He was carrying out
his experiments.
1901
01:32:20,604 --> 01:32:22,364
So would he have stopped?
1902
01:32:22,398 --> 01:32:24,608
I don't see why
he would've done.
1903
01:32:24,642 --> 01:32:26,506
Normal scientists
don't stop, do they?
1904
01:32:26,541 --> 01:32:27,714
They go back to work,
1905
01:32:27,749 --> 01:32:29,820
and they get going
again the next morning.
1906
01:32:29,854 --> 01:32:32,477
I think the man was
extremely dangerous.
1907
01:32:32,512 --> 01:32:35,998
Anybody unlucky enough
to be near him
1908
01:32:36,033 --> 01:32:40,520
when he was at large was
in a great deal of danger.
1909
01:32:40,555 --> 01:32:43,419
I was lucky I only ever met
him when he was behind bars.
1910
01:32:44,904 --> 01:32:48,045
- Had he not been caught, I
think Graham would've kept going
1911
01:32:48,079 --> 01:32:51,600
because he was
obsessive about poisons.
1912
01:32:51,635 --> 01:32:53,775
I think that's what he did.
1913
01:32:53,809 --> 01:32:56,743
It's as simple as that.
That's what he was all about.
1914
01:32:56,778 --> 01:32:58,469
And I have no doubt at all
1915
01:32:58,503 --> 01:33:00,920
that he would've got
the eight victims
1916
01:33:00,954 --> 01:33:03,543
that he said he would
when he left Broadmoor.
1917
01:33:03,578 --> 01:33:05,649
You can imagine, can't you?
1918
01:33:05,683 --> 01:33:07,512
I mean, if you were
having a cup of tea
1919
01:33:07,547 --> 01:33:09,135
or something with Graham Young,
1920
01:33:11,344 --> 01:33:13,173
you'd feel uncomfortable
about it, wouldn't you?
1921
01:33:13,208 --> 01:33:16,349
[gentle piano music]
1922
01:33:19,766 --> 01:33:24,495
โช There's something
sweet about death โช
1923
01:33:24,529 --> 01:33:27,671
[gentle piano music]
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