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DAVID LYNCH: If you want to
make a feature-length film,
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all you need to do is
get 70 ideas, 70 scenes.
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And you write these 70 scenes
on three-by-five cards,
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and you put them up.
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And when you have 70 of them,
you've got a feature film.
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I never considered
myself a writer.
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And I don't know how to spell.
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I don't know how to type.
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To me, writing is like a
way just to remember ideas.
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Schools have
developed a formula.
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This word, formula, in
the department of writing
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is like death penalty crime.
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The thing, I think,
should sort of
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come naturally and feel good.
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And that's just all of
these ideas talking to you.
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I think revising the writing
is part of the process.
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You don't want to be worried
about how it comes out
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when it's starting to flow.
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But then as you go back later,
when more and more has come in,
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you see that, oh, that
one is talking too much,
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and it's getting weak.
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And let's take those things out.
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And this is much better.
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Like that.
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This is the thing about a
formula, where they say that,
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in the first--
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it's a three-act formula, I
think, or something like that.
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And I don't know what
the latest formula is.
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But something happens, and then
it gets into the nitty-gritty,
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and then there's a resolution.
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All stories need a beginning.
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Where the middle is depends
on where the end is, I guess.
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But in a continuing story,
there could be, theoretically,
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no end.
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When it comes time to
writing, I like to write.
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What I mean is--
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well, the last time
I was really writing
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was with Mark Frost
on "Twin Peaks."
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But at night, we would
write over Skype, Mark
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being in Ojai, California,
and me being in Los Angeles.
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And we worked during the day.
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At night, because
I smoke cigarettes,
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my wife, Emily,
would put me outside.
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And I would face east.
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And I would have yellow
pads and a ballpoint pen,
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black, and cigarettes
and red wine, Bordeaux.
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And I'd sit in this lawn
chair and work like that.
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And if you have a yellow pad on
your lap and a ballpoint pen,
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pretty soon that pen will start
moving and words will come out.
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And you get on a thing.
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And I say even 90% can be
worthless, horrible stuff.
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But maybe as you're writing
what you're seeing or thinking,
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you'll catch a vein of gold, and
a thing will start pouring out.
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And that's sort of the
way, I guess, it is.
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You catch a vein.
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It could be a character.
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It could be a whole
part of a story.
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It could be a scene.
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But you've got to be--
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like in fishing-- with patience.
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And you've got to have a
pole, and a line, and a hook.
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And you've got to be
ready for it to come in.
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Character comes from an idea.
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Something that we see
can trigger a character.
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Something can happen
in a daydream, where
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a character will just walk in.
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When they do come along, it's
as if you always knew them.
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They appear as if
out of nowhere.
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And again, it's like an idea.
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It is an idea.
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And you hear them talk.
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You know them as if you've
known them for a long time.
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You know what they look like.
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You know what they're wearing.
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You know the way they are, how
they speak-- fast or slow--
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the timbre of their
voice, the whole thing.
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You know them.
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And you write them down.
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And even the words--
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they come out.
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They just come out.
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They come out in a
certain way, based
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on that character
that you know and who
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they're interacting with.
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A character is an idea, just
like a location is an idea,
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a mood is an idea, sound is
an idea, music is an idea--
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the way it needs to be based
on the ideas that come.
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Mystery and detectives and
cinema relate 100% to life.
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Most of us, we don't know where
we were before we were born.
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We don't know for sure
where we're going after.
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We don't know why we're here.
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We don't know much
about anything.
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We're floating on
a ball in something
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they call a universe on the
edge of a galaxy with about 100
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or 200 billion suns, and we
are going to football games
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and watching TV.
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It's, like, pretty crazy.
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It's the way it is.
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But we're detectives, everybody.
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We're looking around,
when we have time.
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Sometimes it's just
before we go to sleep.
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We start thinking maybe
questions like, why am I here?
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What is going on?
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Or we see things in
life, and we say, whoa.
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Or we hear things and
say, does that make sense?
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Do you think that's true?
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We use our intuition as
detectives to see what's true
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and what's false and try to
figure out what's going on.
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And I think that's one of the
great things about detective
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stories.
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It relates to what
life is telling us.
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The ideas tell you everything.
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And if you think
it's imagination--
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really, you say, I imagine.
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By the time you got
the word imagine out,
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the ideas have
already fed it to you.
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It's not really
you imagining it.
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It's the flow of ideas.
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And that's where
daydreaming comes in.
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Let's say there's
a scene in a diner.
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And the diner has all these
windows, and it's the daytime.
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And it's got the smell of
cooking and coffee going.
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Then sounds of the machines,
and the refrigerator cooling
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working, and the sounds of the
Coke machine going sometimes,
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the cash register,
different things.
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And people going
around, people talking,
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knives and forks, plates,
formica, footsteps.
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Outside, some sounds
are coming in.
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And the light is a certain way.
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Say it's in the Northwest, so
it's a kind of Northwest feel--
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kind of a cooler,
bluer light coming in.
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It could still be--
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sometimes can be
warm and friendly.
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But depending on
what's going on,
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you might want it to
be bluer and colder.
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Then you might have
something on the jukebox that
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fits in with the mood.
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And yeah, it comes
with the idea.
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All these different things
and the right mixture
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can get the mood to
be true to the idea.
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A script is organized ideas.
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So the, say, future director
picks up the script,
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opens the script,
and starts reading.
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And when they're
reading the script,
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they're picturing things
and hearing things.
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What you're picturing
and what you're hearing
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and what you're feeling
when you read that script--
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it's just like catching
ideas from the ether.
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And you remember what
you saw, what you heard,
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and the feelings.
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And those are your
ideas now to follow.
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And everything along the
way of making the film,
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you're trying to remember those
feelings that came through
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from the words, and what you
saw and felt, and the mood.
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And the way people talked,
and the way they were,
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what they were wearing.
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And the things in the room.
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All these things now are your
guide to making the film.
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And stay true to every
part of that thing that
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came in your mind, because
you fell in love with it.
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That's the thing you want to do.
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You've got the idea.
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You're in love with the idea.
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All your ideas are
together, say, in a script.
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Now you go and you start putting
all the elements together
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to make that idea a reality
in the material world.
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A film is made up of
many, many, many elements.
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So you have to be true to every
single little tiny element
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in order to have a chance that
the whole will hold together.
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And even so, if you're
really true to every element
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and not walk away until they
feel correct based on the idea,
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you can get a magical
thing-- that they say,
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the whole is greater than
the sum of the parts.
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A magic thing can happen when
these elements swim together.
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And boom, it's the
magic of cinema.
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Anyone who reads a script,
this same thing is happening.
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But now this is the one
who's going to make the film.
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So this one is picturing
this, and hearing this,
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and this like this
for him or herself.
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Now the filmmaker's job is
to get all the people that
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are going to help to help get
this thing out of the head
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onto the screen.
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And that's going
to involve talking
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to different
departments and getting
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them to get the right
clothes, the right light,
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the right this, the right that.
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So now this was alive
in here, and now it's
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going to be alive on the screen.
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If it's new to you, it's new.
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They say there's nothing
new under the sun.
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If it's new to you, and you
love the world, then you go.
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When is it OK to borrow?
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I guess it depends on
borrowing or stealing.
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And so in "Wild at
Heart," Sailor and Lula--
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it just started
creeping in that they
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just love "The Wizard of Oz"
and would make references to it.
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Because they loved it,
like so many other people.
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But it kind of was strange
that Sailor would like it,
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but it makes sense to me.
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It was a little bit
stealing, I guess,
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but it made sense
to the characters.
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And in my mind, it
honors this great film,
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"The Wizard of Oz," which is
a film that's caused people
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to dream now for decades.
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And there's something about "The
Wizard of Oz" that's cosmic.
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And it talks to human
beings in a deep way.
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[VIDEO PLAYBACK]
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THE GOOD WITCH: Sailor.
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Sailor.
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The Good Witch.
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Sailor Ripley, Lula loves you.
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But I'm a robber.
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I'm a manslaughterer.
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And I haven't had any
parental guidance.
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THE GOOD WITCH: She's
forgiven you all these things.
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You love her.
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Don't be afraid, Sailor.
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But I'm wild at heart.
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If you're truly wild at heart,
you'll fight for your dreams.
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Don't turn away
from love, Sailor.
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Don't turn away from love.
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That's Sheryl Lee,
who's also Laura Palmer.
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It's perfect that
she floats down.
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I said, are you
afraid of heights?
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And she said, no, because she
didn't want to say the truth.
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She's desperately
afraid of heights.
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We had her strung
up really high.
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Fred Elmes did a great
job lighting that.
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He had this pool of
water on plexiglass
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and was dancing lights.
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And it was really,
really beautiful.
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And Sailor and The Good
Witch did a beautiful job.
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Barry Gifford-- the book
ends not in a happy way.
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And nobody wanted it to
end in an unhappy way.
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And that's when The
Good Witch really came
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in and saved the day.
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Barry was really, really,
really great to work with.
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Because he didn't care--
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I always say, Barry's
books, I love.
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But they're very minimal.
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The chapters are short,
and they're minimal.
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And it's a certain
way he writes.
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His writing has
just got these seeds
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that sprout and go off in
all different directions.
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So he said, David, you
do whatever you want.
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And there'll be David
Lynch's "Wild at Heart"
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and Barry Gifford's
"Wild at Heart."
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He was just really
generous in that way.
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But his book, I loved, and
it inspired what came out.
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When you're just starting
out, it's very difficult.
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Unless you're from
a wealthy family,
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it's very difficult to
have the time and materials
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to live the art life.
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So you have to live the art
life around whatever job
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you have to earn money
to eat and have a place
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to live and work.
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And it's tough.
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But all the time that you're
working to earn that money,
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you can be thinking.
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And you can be
saving up your money
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and getting those
materials and as much time
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as you can to dedicate
to your work--
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your work, which is the artwork.
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When I started out, all I
wanted to be was a painter.
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And you don't need a lot
of money to be a painter.
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I raised money by delivering
prescriptions for a place,
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Herder's Drugstore in
Alexandria, Virginia.
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And my father made
a deal with me.
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I wanted to get a studio.
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He said he'd pay for half
if I earned the money
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and paid for the other half.
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So I delivered prescriptions at
night in a red and white Jeep
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and made enough money just
working a couple nights a week
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to get a studio, where I'd
go after school and work
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until late at night.
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So I've had to do
things to earn money,
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but I've got what
I call a setup.
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A setup is a place to work
and the tools and materials
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to do the work.
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So if you're
interested in painting,
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you need a place to paint,
and you need paints.
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And you need to get all this
stuff together and the space.
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And then you call it
a painting studio.
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Every single thing
that we do, we
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need a place and machines
or materials or equipment
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to make it happen.
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You asked about
this little bungalow
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I had on Rosewood Avenue.
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I was there during a time when
gasoline was $0.27 a gallon.
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I had a paper route.
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I delivered the "Wall
Street Journal."
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I picked up my papers at 11:30.
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And I made $200 a month.
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That was plenty
of money to live.
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And I built a shed on
the side of the bungalow
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for a little, tiny workshop.
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I built some sheds in the yard.
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And I had the ability
to make things.
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I still didn't have
enough money to paint
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the way I wanted to paint.
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AFI, at the time I went--
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the Center for
Advanced Film Studies--
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was housed in the
Greystone Mansion,
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a 55-room mansion
in the best part
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of Beverly Hills, California.
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At night, no one was there.
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And I got to take
over the stables.
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I had a mini studio
for four years.
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I had all the equipment
I could ever dream of.
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I had rooms for
storage of equipment.
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I had places outside
to build sets.
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I had a setup like you cannot
believe for four years.
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And I even lived there.
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I lived in Beverly Hills,
California, on about a nickel
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a week.
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It was beautiful.
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And what we called
the food room,
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where we ate, when I
finished a pack of matches,
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I would do drawings
on the inside.
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They're abstract, but these
are all Italian Renaissance
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drawings.
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These have been
found and collected,
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and now they're all framed.
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They're really
beautiful little things.
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So these are my
matchbook drawings
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from the days of "Eraserhead."
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My friend, Bushnell
Keeler, who really
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was an inspiration
in the early days,
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said, an artist needs
at least four hours
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of uninterrupted, guaranteed
uninterrupted, time
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to get one good hour
of painting done.
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And this is so true.
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Every interruption just is
like a knife stab in the middle
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of thought and getting into it.
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And you've got to start again.
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You start again.
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It's horrible.
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These days, there's
interruptions
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around every corner,
almost every second.
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I've said that you have
to be somewhat selfish.
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But selfishness, like beauty,
is in the eye of the beholder.
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If you're with the right people,
it cannot be seen so much
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as selfishness.
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It can be seen as that's
your work in life,
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and you need the time and
the materials to do it.
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But you have to protect
that space and that time,
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or you won't get anything done.
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