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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,206 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,000 DAVID LYNCH: If you want to make a feature-length film, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:16,920 all you need to do is get 70 ideas, 70 scenes. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,587 And you write these 70 scenes on three-by-five cards, 5 00:00:21,587 --> 00:00:22,420 and you put them up. 6 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:25,260 And when you have 70 of them, you've got a feature film. 7 00:00:31,068 --> 00:00:34,456 [MUSIC PLAYING] 8 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:47,340 I never considered myself a writer. 9 00:00:47,340 --> 00:00:50,823 And I don't know how to spell. 10 00:00:50,823 --> 00:00:51,865 I don't know how to type. 11 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,720 To me, writing is like a way just to remember ideas. 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:08,390 Schools have developed a formula. 13 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:17,560 This word, formula, in the department of writing 14 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:26,200 is like death penalty crime. 15 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,170 The thing, I think, should sort of 16 00:01:29,170 --> 00:01:36,980 come naturally and feel good. 17 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:40,780 And that's just all of these ideas talking to you. 18 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:51,460 I think revising the writing is part of the process. 19 00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:54,510 You don't want to be worried about how it comes out 20 00:01:54,510 --> 00:01:57,160 when it's starting to flow. 21 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:03,530 But then as you go back later, when more and more has come in, 22 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:09,800 you see that, oh, that one is talking too much, 23 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,270 and it's getting weak. 24 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:14,250 And let's take those things out. 25 00:02:14,250 --> 00:02:16,520 And this is much better. 26 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,810 Like that. 27 00:02:17,810 --> 00:02:21,620 This is the thing about a formula, where they say that, 28 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:22,390 in the first-- 29 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:26,450 it's a three-act formula, I think, or something like that. 30 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:28,670 And I don't know what the latest formula is. 31 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:34,910 But something happens, and then it gets into the nitty-gritty, 32 00:02:34,910 --> 00:02:37,470 and then there's a resolution. 33 00:02:37,470 --> 00:02:46,600 All stories need a beginning. 34 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:54,430 Where the middle is depends on where the end is, I guess. 35 00:02:54,430 --> 00:02:58,990 But in a continuing story, there could be, theoretically, 36 00:02:58,990 --> 00:03:00,267 no end. 37 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:03,746 [MUSIC PLAYING] 38 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,810 When it comes time to writing, I like to write. 39 00:03:15,260 --> 00:03:16,210 What I mean is-- 40 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:24,100 well, the last time I was really writing 41 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:30,170 was with Mark Frost on "Twin Peaks." 42 00:03:30,170 --> 00:03:34,640 But at night, we would write over Skype, Mark 43 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:42,270 being in Ojai, California, and me being in Los Angeles. 44 00:03:42,270 --> 00:03:44,900 And we worked during the day. 45 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:51,400 At night, because I smoke cigarettes, 46 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,690 my wife, Emily, would put me outside. 47 00:03:55,690 --> 00:03:58,720 And I would face east. 48 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,400 And I would have yellow pads and a ballpoint pen, 49 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:11,480 black, and cigarettes and red wine, Bordeaux. 50 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:19,430 And I'd sit in this lawn chair and work like that. 51 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:26,920 And if you have a yellow pad on your lap and a ballpoint pen, 52 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,890 pretty soon that pen will start moving and words will come out. 53 00:04:32,890 --> 00:04:35,160 And you get on a thing. 54 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:44,800 And I say even 90% can be worthless, horrible stuff. 55 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,930 But maybe as you're writing what you're seeing or thinking, 56 00:04:49,930 --> 00:04:54,850 you'll catch a vein of gold, and a thing will start pouring out. 57 00:04:54,850 --> 00:04:58,060 And that's sort of the way, I guess, it is. 58 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:00,340 You catch a vein. 59 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:01,450 It could be a character. 60 00:05:01,450 --> 00:05:03,340 It could be a whole part of a story. 61 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:05,950 It could be a scene. 62 00:05:05,950 --> 00:05:08,260 But you've got to be-- 63 00:05:08,260 --> 00:05:11,320 like in fishing-- with patience. 64 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,100 And you've got to have a pole, and a line, and a hook. 65 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:21,060 And you've got to be ready for it to come in. 66 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:24,490 [MUSIC PLAYING] 67 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:35,550 Character comes from an idea. 68 00:05:35,550 --> 00:05:43,250 Something that we see can trigger a character. 69 00:05:43,250 --> 00:05:47,840 Something can happen in a daydream, where 70 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,000 a character will just walk in. 71 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:57,400 When they do come along, it's as if you always knew them. 72 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,500 They appear as if out of nowhere. 73 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:05,290 And again, it's like an idea. 74 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:07,300 It is an idea. 75 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:10,360 And you hear them talk. 76 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,770 You know them as if you've known them for a long time. 77 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:17,750 You know what they look like. 78 00:06:17,750 --> 00:06:19,340 You know what they're wearing. 79 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:24,180 You know the way they are, how they speak-- fast or slow-- 80 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:27,410 the timbre of their voice, the whole thing. 81 00:06:27,410 --> 00:06:28,370 You know them. 82 00:06:28,370 --> 00:06:32,270 And you write them down. 83 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:35,660 And even the words-- 84 00:06:35,660 --> 00:06:37,730 they come out. 85 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:38,810 They just come out. 86 00:06:38,810 --> 00:06:40,760 They come out in a certain way, based 87 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 on that character that you know and who 88 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,470 they're interacting with. 89 00:06:45,470 --> 00:06:51,020 A character is an idea, just like a location is an idea, 90 00:06:51,020 --> 00:06:56,120 a mood is an idea, sound is an idea, music is an idea-- 91 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,330 the way it needs to be based on the ideas that come. 92 00:06:59,330 --> 00:07:02,613 [MUSIC PLAYING] 93 00:07:06,370 --> 00:07:16,200 Mystery and detectives and cinema relate 100% to life. 94 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:23,730 Most of us, we don't know where we were before we were born. 95 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:27,410 We don't know for sure where we're going after. 96 00:07:27,410 --> 00:07:29,780 We don't know why we're here. 97 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:32,690 We don't know much about anything. 98 00:07:32,690 --> 00:07:36,380 We're floating on a ball in something 99 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:41,510 they call a universe on the edge of a galaxy with about 100 100 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:47,330 or 200 billion suns, and we are going to football games 101 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:48,500 and watching TV. 102 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:51,410 It's, like, pretty crazy. 103 00:07:51,410 --> 00:07:54,590 It's the way it is. 104 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:56,630 But we're detectives, everybody. 105 00:07:56,630 --> 00:08:01,070 We're looking around, when we have time. 106 00:08:01,070 --> 00:08:03,380 Sometimes it's just before we go to sleep. 107 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:08,220 We start thinking maybe questions like, why am I here? 108 00:08:08,220 --> 00:08:09,890 What is going on? 109 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:12,860 Or we see things in life, and we say, whoa. 110 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:16,990 Or we hear things and say, does that make sense? 111 00:08:16,990 --> 00:08:18,350 Do you think that's true? 112 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:22,610 We use our intuition as detectives to see what's true 113 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:28,220 and what's false and try to figure out what's going on. 114 00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:31,540 And I think that's one of the great things about detective 115 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:32,860 stories. 116 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:38,500 It relates to what life is telling us. 117 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:44,300 The ideas tell you everything. 118 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:47,510 And if you think it's imagination-- 119 00:08:47,510 --> 00:08:51,330 really, you say, I imagine. 120 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:54,080 By the time you got the word imagine out, 121 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,960 the ideas have already fed it to you. 122 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,120 It's not really you imagining it. 123 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,920 It's the flow of ideas. 124 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,070 And that's where daydreaming comes in. 125 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:07,580 Let's say there's a scene in a diner. 126 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:12,230 And the diner has all these windows, and it's the daytime. 127 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:18,380 And it's got the smell of cooking and coffee going. 128 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:25,100 Then sounds of the machines, and the refrigerator cooling 129 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:29,090 working, and the sounds of the Coke machine going sometimes, 130 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:33,020 the cash register, different things. 131 00:09:33,020 --> 00:09:37,850 And people going around, people talking, 132 00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:43,370 knives and forks, plates, formica, footsteps. 133 00:09:43,370 --> 00:09:46,340 Outside, some sounds are coming in. 134 00:09:46,340 --> 00:09:48,890 And the light is a certain way. 135 00:09:48,890 --> 00:09:53,540 Say it's in the Northwest, so it's a kind of Northwest feel-- 136 00:09:53,540 --> 00:09:59,460 kind of a cooler, bluer light coming in. 137 00:09:59,460 --> 00:10:00,620 It could still be-- 138 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:02,210 sometimes can be warm and friendly. 139 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:04,400 But depending on what's going on, 140 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,210 you might want it to be bluer and colder. 141 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:13,490 Then you might have something on the jukebox that 142 00:10:13,490 --> 00:10:15,930 fits in with the mood. 143 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:19,820 And yeah, it comes with the idea. 144 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:24,200 All these different things and the right mixture 145 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,162 can get the mood to be true to the idea. 146 00:10:28,162 --> 00:10:31,606 [MUSIC PLAYING] 147 00:10:34,066 --> 00:10:38,630 A script is organized ideas. 148 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:45,210 So the, say, future director picks up the script, 149 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:50,580 opens the script, and starts reading. 150 00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:55,110 And when they're reading the script, 151 00:10:55,110 --> 00:11:00,180 they're picturing things and hearing things. 152 00:11:00,180 --> 00:11:03,990 What you're picturing and what you're hearing 153 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:09,460 and what you're feeling when you read that script-- 154 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:15,130 it's just like catching ideas from the ether. 155 00:11:15,130 --> 00:11:20,830 And you remember what you saw, what you heard, 156 00:11:20,830 --> 00:11:23,440 and the feelings. 157 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,210 And those are your ideas now to follow. 158 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:31,140 And everything along the way of making the film, 159 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:35,230 you're trying to remember those feelings that came through 160 00:11:35,230 --> 00:11:39,670 from the words, and what you saw and felt, and the mood. 161 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:42,490 And the way people talked, and the way they were, 162 00:11:42,490 --> 00:11:44,310 what they were wearing. 163 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:46,870 And the things in the room. 164 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:51,460 All these things now are your guide to making the film. 165 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:53,740 And stay true to every part of that thing that 166 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:56,020 came in your mind, because you fell in love with it. 167 00:11:56,020 --> 00:11:58,550 That's the thing you want to do. 168 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:59,690 You've got the idea. 169 00:11:59,690 --> 00:12:01,340 You're in love with the idea. 170 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:04,550 All your ideas are together, say, in a script. 171 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:09,890 Now you go and you start putting all the elements together 172 00:12:09,890 --> 00:12:14,110 to make that idea a reality in the material world. 173 00:12:14,110 --> 00:12:18,870 A film is made up of many, many, many elements. 174 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:24,770 So you have to be true to every single little tiny element 175 00:12:24,770 --> 00:12:31,230 in order to have a chance that the whole will hold together. 176 00:12:31,230 --> 00:12:36,780 And even so, if you're really true to every element 177 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:41,910 and not walk away until they feel correct based on the idea, 178 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:44,390 you can get a magical thing-- that they say, 179 00:12:44,390 --> 00:12:47,240 the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. 180 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,830 A magic thing can happen when these elements swim together. 181 00:12:51,830 --> 00:12:56,000 And boom, it's the magic of cinema. 182 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,550 Anyone who reads a script, this same thing is happening. 183 00:13:00,550 --> 00:13:04,920 But now this is the one who's going to make the film. 184 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,570 So this one is picturing this, and hearing this, 185 00:13:09,570 --> 00:13:13,880 and this like this for him or herself. 186 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:19,430 Now the filmmaker's job is to get all the people that 187 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:27,350 are going to help to help get this thing out of the head 188 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:29,600 onto the screen. 189 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,820 And that's going to involve talking 190 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:34,930 to different departments and getting 191 00:13:34,930 --> 00:13:38,100 them to get the right clothes, the right light, 192 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:40,610 the right this, the right that. 193 00:13:40,610 --> 00:13:46,030 So now this was alive in here, and now it's 194 00:13:46,030 --> 00:13:48,602 going to be alive on the screen. 195 00:13:48,602 --> 00:13:51,969 [MUSIC PLAYING] 196 00:13:55,340 --> 00:13:59,980 If it's new to you, it's new. 197 00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:03,400 They say there's nothing new under the sun. 198 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:10,960 If it's new to you, and you love the world, then you go. 199 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,780 When is it OK to borrow? 200 00:14:13,780 --> 00:14:23,300 I guess it depends on borrowing or stealing. 201 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:31,670 And so in "Wild at Heart," Sailor and Lula-- 202 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:33,770 it just started creeping in that they 203 00:14:33,770 --> 00:14:37,160 just love "The Wizard of Oz" and would make references to it. 204 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Because they loved it, like so many other people. 205 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,180 But it kind of was strange that Sailor would like it, 206 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:49,160 but it makes sense to me. 207 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,850 It was a little bit stealing, I guess, 208 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:55,850 but it made sense to the characters. 209 00:14:55,850 --> 00:15:00,020 And in my mind, it honors this great film, 210 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:05,060 "The Wizard of Oz," which is a film that's caused people 211 00:15:05,060 --> 00:15:08,730 to dream now for decades. 212 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:13,760 And there's something about "The Wizard of Oz" that's cosmic. 213 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:21,813 And it talks to human beings in a deep way. 214 00:15:21,813 --> 00:15:22,480 [VIDEO PLAYBACK] 215 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,050 THE GOOD WITCH: Sailor. 216 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:25,550 Sailor. 217 00:15:28,852 --> 00:15:30,860 The Good Witch. 218 00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:35,890 Sailor Ripley, Lula loves you. 219 00:15:35,890 --> 00:15:37,570 But I'm a robber. 220 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:40,000 I'm a manslaughterer. 221 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,900 And I haven't had any parental guidance. 222 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:47,190 THE GOOD WITCH: She's forgiven you all these things. 223 00:15:47,190 --> 00:15:48,370 You love her. 224 00:15:51,090 --> 00:15:54,399 Don't be afraid, Sailor. 225 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:57,970 But I'm wild at heart. 226 00:15:57,970 --> 00:16:03,115 If you're truly wild at heart, you'll fight for your dreams. 227 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:13,080 Don't turn away from love, Sailor. 228 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,850 Don't turn away from love. 229 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:18,010 [END VIDEO PLAYBACK] 230 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:21,940 That's Sheryl Lee, who's also Laura Palmer. 231 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:23,950 It's perfect that she floats down. 232 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:26,500 I said, are you afraid of heights? 233 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:30,440 And she said, no, because she didn't want to say the truth. 234 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,260 She's desperately afraid of heights. 235 00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:34,720 We had her strung up really high. 236 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,790 Fred Elmes did a great job lighting that. 237 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:41,890 He had this pool of water on plexiglass 238 00:16:41,890 --> 00:16:43,960 and was dancing lights. 239 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,830 And it was really, really beautiful. 240 00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:54,480 And Sailor and The Good Witch did a beautiful job. 241 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,490 Barry Gifford-- the book ends not in a happy way. 242 00:16:59,490 --> 00:17:07,060 And nobody wanted it to end in an unhappy way. 243 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,000 And that's when The Good Witch really came 244 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,460 in and saved the day. 245 00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:17,339 Barry was really, really, really great to work with. 246 00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:19,050 Because he didn't care-- 247 00:17:19,050 --> 00:17:23,490 I always say, Barry's books, I love. 248 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:26,950 But they're very minimal. 249 00:17:26,950 --> 00:17:30,650 The chapters are short, and they're minimal. 250 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:34,580 And it's a certain way he writes. 251 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:38,750 His writing has just got these seeds 252 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:42,770 that sprout and go off in all different directions. 253 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:49,450 So he said, David, you do whatever you want. 254 00:17:49,450 --> 00:17:51,750 And there'll be David Lynch's "Wild at Heart" 255 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:53,250 and Barry Gifford's "Wild at Heart." 256 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:59,460 He was just really generous in that way. 257 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:06,526 But his book, I loved, and it inspired what came out. 258 00:18:06,526 --> 00:18:09,998 [MUSIC PLAYING] 259 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,200 When you're just starting out, it's very difficult. 260 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,150 Unless you're from a wealthy family, 261 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:25,180 it's very difficult to have the time and materials 262 00:18:25,180 --> 00:18:27,650 to live the art life. 263 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:35,680 So you have to live the art life around whatever job 264 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,800 you have to earn money to eat and have a place 265 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,670 to live and work. 266 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:42,220 And it's tough. 267 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:46,540 But all the time that you're working to earn that money, 268 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:48,950 you can be thinking. 269 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:55,320 And you can be saving up your money 270 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,150 and getting those materials and as much time 271 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:03,015 as you can to dedicate to your work-- 272 00:19:03,015 --> 00:19:06,430 your work, which is the artwork. 273 00:19:06,430 --> 00:19:12,470 When I started out, all I wanted to be was a painter. 274 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,840 And you don't need a lot of money to be a painter. 275 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,410 I raised money by delivering prescriptions for a place, 276 00:19:26,410 --> 00:19:29,950 Herder's Drugstore in Alexandria, Virginia. 277 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:32,350 And my father made a deal with me. 278 00:19:32,350 --> 00:19:34,450 I wanted to get a studio. 279 00:19:34,450 --> 00:19:36,730 He said he'd pay for half if I earned the money 280 00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:38,500 and paid for the other half. 281 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:45,190 So I delivered prescriptions at night in a red and white Jeep 282 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:48,010 and made enough money just working a couple nights a week 283 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:53,530 to get a studio, where I'd go after school and work 284 00:19:53,530 --> 00:19:58,420 until late at night. 285 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:04,240 So I've had to do things to earn money, 286 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,690 but I've got what I call a setup. 287 00:20:07,690 --> 00:20:14,950 A setup is a place to work and the tools and materials 288 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:17,020 to do the work. 289 00:20:17,020 --> 00:20:20,790 So if you're interested in painting, 290 00:20:20,790 --> 00:20:24,510 you need a place to paint, and you need paints. 291 00:20:24,510 --> 00:20:28,680 And you need to get all this stuff together and the space. 292 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,470 And then you call it a painting studio. 293 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,390 Every single thing that we do, we 294 00:20:33,390 --> 00:20:37,890 need a place and machines or materials or equipment 295 00:20:37,890 --> 00:20:39,960 to make it happen. 296 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,930 You asked about this little bungalow 297 00:20:42,930 --> 00:20:47,580 I had on Rosewood Avenue. 298 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:57,660 I was there during a time when gasoline was $0.27 a gallon. 299 00:20:57,660 --> 00:20:59,100 I had a paper route. 300 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:02,170 I delivered the "Wall Street Journal." 301 00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:05,230 I picked up my papers at 11:30. 302 00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:11,560 And I made $200 a month. 303 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:20,080 That was plenty of money to live. 304 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:25,360 And I built a shed on the side of the bungalow 305 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,500 for a little, tiny workshop. 306 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:34,470 I built some sheds in the yard. 307 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:42,540 And I had the ability to make things. 308 00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:46,290 I still didn't have enough money to paint 309 00:21:46,290 --> 00:21:48,850 the way I wanted to paint. 310 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:50,730 AFI, at the time I went-- 311 00:21:50,730 --> 00:21:52,410 the Center for Advanced Film Studies-- 312 00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:55,980 was housed in the Greystone Mansion, 313 00:21:55,980 --> 00:22:00,780 a 55-room mansion in the best part 314 00:22:00,780 --> 00:22:04,140 of Beverly Hills, California. 315 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:07,870 At night, no one was there. 316 00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:11,130 And I got to take over the stables. 317 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:14,580 I had a mini studio for four years. 318 00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:18,690 I had all the equipment I could ever dream of. 319 00:22:18,690 --> 00:22:21,750 I had rooms for storage of equipment. 320 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:24,840 I had places outside to build sets. 321 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,900 I had a setup like you cannot believe for four years. 322 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:32,700 And I even lived there. 323 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:37,170 I lived in Beverly Hills, California, on about a nickel 324 00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:38,670 a week. 325 00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:40,620 It was beautiful. 326 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:42,570 And what we called the food room, 327 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:47,670 where we ate, when I finished a pack of matches, 328 00:22:47,670 --> 00:22:49,725 I would do drawings on the inside. 329 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:57,270 They're abstract, but these are all Italian Renaissance 330 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:59,130 drawings. 331 00:22:59,130 --> 00:23:02,600 These have been found and collected, 332 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,960 and now they're all framed. 333 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,720 They're really beautiful little things. 334 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,100 So these are my matchbook drawings 335 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,600 from the days of "Eraserhead." 336 00:23:14,490 --> 00:23:16,440 My friend, Bushnell Keeler, who really 337 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,930 was an inspiration in the early days, 338 00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:21,900 said, an artist needs at least four hours 339 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:25,710 of uninterrupted, guaranteed uninterrupted, time 340 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:28,440 to get one good hour of painting done. 341 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,450 And this is so true. 342 00:23:30,450 --> 00:23:36,720 Every interruption just is like a knife stab in the middle 343 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,460 of thought and getting into it. 344 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:40,710 And you've got to start again. 345 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:41,670 You start again. 346 00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:43,050 It's horrible. 347 00:23:43,050 --> 00:23:45,120 These days, there's interruptions 348 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,190 around every corner, almost every second. 349 00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:54,860 I've said that you have to be somewhat selfish. 350 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:58,070 But selfishness, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. 351 00:24:00,596 --> 00:24:06,660 If you're with the right people, it cannot be seen so much 352 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:08,940 as selfishness. 353 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,420 It can be seen as that's your work in life, 354 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:18,130 and you need the time and the materials to do it. 355 00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:24,370 But you have to protect that space and that time, 356 00:24:24,370 --> 00:24:26,679 or you won't get anything 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