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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,370 Weighing�in at�274�pounds... 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,970 The�Sandman! 3 00:00:16,971 --> 00:00:18,309 [narrator] In�the�1990s, 4 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:20,639 Extreme�Championship Wrestling�was�meaner, 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,540 more�aggressive,�and bloodier�than�anything 6 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:26,250 audiences had�seen�before, 7 00:00:26,251 --> 00:00:29,249 as�the�demands�of�the company's�rabid�fanbase�led�to 8 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:32,590 a�dangerous�escalation of�in-ring�violence. 9 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:36,020 What�is�this? These�guys�are�crazy. 10 00:00:36,021 --> 00:00:37,059 It�felt�so�personal. 11 00:00:37,060 --> 00:00:38,530 Daddy,�you're�drunk. 12 00:00:38,531 --> 00:00:40,689 And�I�think�that's�why�the fans�were�so�involved�with�it. 13 00:00:40,690 --> 00:00:43,059 People�didn't�know�if it�was�scripted�or�not. 14 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:44,860 And�the�more�popular�it�got, 15 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:47,940 the�more�they�had�to top�the�last�show. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,340 An�escalation�embodied by�The�Sandman. 17 00:00:51,370 --> 00:00:52,540 The�Sandman! 18 00:00:52,541 --> 00:00:54,439 You�know,�got�his�jeans�on, his�t-shirt�on, 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,739 his�kendo�stick,�smoking�a cigarette,�drinking�a�beer. 20 00:00:56,740 --> 00:00:58,409 Fan's�like,�"I�could be�this�guy." 21 00:00:58,410 --> 00:01:00,079 You�might�think�it�is, because�all�you�see�is 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,250 a�beer�drinking,�cigarette smoking,�scumbag. 23 00:01:04,290 --> 00:01:07,760 Sandman's�character�was�as organic�as�it�could�get. 24 00:01:07,790 --> 00:01:09,630 God,�I�love�ECW. 25 00:01:09,631 --> 00:01:11,089 There's�not�a�whole�lot�of difference�between 26 00:01:11,090 --> 00:01:12,789 James�Fullington and�The�Sandman. 27 00:01:12,790 --> 00:01:15,099 What�can�I�do�that somebody�hasn't�done? 28 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:18,270 I�can�make�myself�bleed before�I�get�into�the�ring? 29 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:19,970 Nobody�else has�done�that. 30 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:21,900 Though�a�hardcore�icon 31 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:24,980 countless�injuries�and�a lawless�locker�room 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,540 create�no�shortage�of controversies, 33 00:01:27,580 --> 00:01:30,450 leaving�The�Sandman with�a�brutal�and 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,120 complicated�legacy. 35 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:34,550 Somebody�has�got�to stop�The�Sandman. 36 00:01:34,551 --> 00:01:36,619 Why�fuck�with�what's going�on�in�the�back? 37 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:38,419 As�soon�as�the�coke�ends, or�the�pot�ends, 38 00:01:38,420 --> 00:01:39,949 there�was,�you�know, painkillers. 39 00:01:39,950 --> 00:01:42,720 We�all�did�alcohol, drugs,�pills�that 40 00:01:42,721 --> 00:01:44,389 you�could possibly�think�of. 41 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:47,089 I�don't�know�if�he�remembers even�half�of�the�stuff 42 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:48,930 that�has�ever�happened. 43 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,600 I�told�my�family,�said,�"Tell them�the�fucking�worst. 44 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:54,570 People�need�to�know�this." 45 00:01:54,571 --> 00:01:55,769 [Chanting] ECW!�ECW! 46 00:01:55,770 --> 00:01:58,110 He�should've�been dead�a�long�time�ago. 47 00:01:58,140 --> 00:02:02,410 [Bell�chiming�continues] 48 00:02:10,850 --> 00:02:13,520 Yeah... 49 00:02:13,881 --> 00:02:17,419 Alright,�so�my music's�playing. 50 00:02:17,420 --> 00:02:19,350 Maybe�some�days it's�30�seconds, 51 00:02:19,351 --> 00:02:21,129 some�days�it's�a minute�and�a�half... 52 00:02:21,130 --> 00:02:23,299 but�at�the�one�point, it's�like,�alright, 53 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:25,269 everybody�should�be�clapping your�hands�at�this�point. 54 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:27,540 So�when�I�come�in, I�don't�want 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,940 everybody�to�see�me at�one�time. 56 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:32,209 I�want,�like,�some�people�to see�me�and�they'll�be�like, 57 00:02:32,210 --> 00:02:33,509 "Oh,�shit, he's�over�there"! 58 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,939 And�then�it�works�its way�around�the�building, 59 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:38,349 and�it�might�take�ten, fifteen�seconds�'til 60 00:02:38,350 --> 00:02:41,290 everybody�actually�figures out�you're�over�here. 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,160 [Cheering] 62 00:02:43,161 --> 00:02:44,549 And�then�at�that point�I�got�'em 63 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:47,290 and�it's�time to�pop�a�beer. 64 00:02:47,291 --> 00:02:48,959 Back�in�the�day,�dude, I�would�drink,�like, 65 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,689 six�beers�on�the way�to�the�ring. 66 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:52,359 I'd�smash�'em against�my�head. 67 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,200 I'd�be�bloody�before�I even�get�into�the�ring. 68 00:02:55,201 --> 00:02:56,959 I�mean,�that's his�personality. 69 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,660 He's�drinking�beer, spitting�it�out. 70 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:01,840 He's�pouring�beer down�your�throat. 71 00:03:01,870 --> 00:03:03,740 [Cheering] 72 00:03:03,741 --> 00:03:06,409 You�feel�like�you're part�of�it,�and�you�are. 73 00:03:06,410 --> 00:03:08,079 If�you�got�a 'Sandman'�shirt�on, 74 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,009 you're�definitely�getting�a beer�poured�down�your�throat. 75 00:03:10,010 --> 00:03:11,249 You�know�what I'm�saying? 76 00:03:11,250 --> 00:03:13,009 It's�the�best�part of�the�show... 77 00:03:13,010 --> 00:03:14,879 unless�you're�wrestling. If�you're�wrestling�it�sucks 78 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,579 'cause�you�gotta�wait�for him�to�get�to�the�ring. 79 00:03:16,580 --> 00:03:17,989 But�if�you're�watching, it's�great. 80 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:19,749 You�know,�'cause�you�give the�fans�what�they�want. 81 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:21,650 He's�one�of�them, you�know? 82 00:03:21,690 --> 00:03:23,360 It's�a�great�entrance. 83 00:03:23,390 --> 00:03:26,590 With�those�pants,�and put�the�durag�on, 84 00:03:26,591 --> 00:03:28,329 it's�like�the�equivalent�of like�getting�up�and�putting�a 85 00:03:28,330 --> 00:03:30,559 hat�on�and,�you�know,�going and�doing�your�errands. 86 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,499 Except�this�guy�was�putting this�shit�on�and�going�out 87 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:37,070 and�entertaining�hundreds of�thousands�of�people. 88 00:03:37,071 --> 00:03:39,739 At�this�point�I'm�having�as much�fun�as�they're�having, 89 00:03:39,740 --> 00:03:41,079 you�know�what�I�mean, because... 90 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,950 this�is what�I�want�to�do. 91 00:03:42,951 --> 00:03:45,549 This�is�what,�what�I�worked my�whole�life�to�be�in�this 92 00:03:45,550 --> 00:03:48,249 fucking�moment�right,�right�now, you�know�what�I�mean? 93 00:03:48,250 --> 00:03:50,679 I�want�that�moment�to last�forever,�you�know? 94 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,949 I�want�to�live in�that�moment. 95 00:03:51,950 --> 00:03:55,050 It's�a�party.�You�know, his�entrance�is�a�party. 96 00:03:55,090 --> 00:03:58,130 And,�you�know,�once that's�over,�then,�you�know, 97 00:03:58,190 --> 00:04:00,030 you�gotta�see�him�wrestle. 98 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:01,300 Oh! 99 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,130 Oh�my�God! 100 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,740 Yo,�I'm�The�Sandman. What�the�fuck�up? 101 00:04:07,391 --> 00:04:11,309 Yeah,�dude. My�parents�call�me�Hak, 102 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:12,910 my�kids�call�me�Hak, 103 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:15,050 my�granddaughter calls�me�Poppy�Hak. 104 00:04:15,051 --> 00:04:17,109 I've�had�that�name�since I�was�five�years�old, 105 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:18,920 my�older�brother gave�it�to�me. 106 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,490 Ah,�dude,�it�was�like Saturday�afternoon. 107 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:28,620 I�watched�WW...WF�at one�o'clock�on�Saturdays. 108 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:30,730 Down�goes�Conrad! 109 00:04:30,731 --> 00:04:32,789 Dude,�that's�all�I ever�wanted�to�be 110 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:35,630 was�a�professional�wrestler. 111 00:04:35,660 --> 00:04:38,670 And�the�bloodied�Sandman thrown�through�that�table. 112 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,400 I�was�all�coked�up and�I�was�drunk�and... 113 00:04:45,401 --> 00:04:48,909 I�burglarize�the�house,�which is�basically�the�only,�like, 114 00:04:48,910 --> 00:04:51,480 real�like,�"crime"�crime that�I�ever�did. 115 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:54,980 And�my�first�day�in�jail,�I punched�a�guard�in�the�face. 116 00:04:54,981 --> 00:04:57,149 I�got�in�a�fight�with�a guy�over�the�television. 117 00:04:57,150 --> 00:04:59,819 I�was�watching�something, and�he�went�to�change�it 118 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:01,159 and�then�we�got�in�a�fight. 119 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,959 Two�guards�were, had�to�break�it�up. 120 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,860 He�ducked,�I�punched a�guard�in�the�face. 121 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:07,170 Broke�his�glasses. 122 00:05:07,171 --> 00:05:09,429 I�was�lucky�I�didn't�get charged�with�assault 123 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:10,999 on�a�guard.�That�could�have been�a�couple�of�years, 124 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,169 you�know�what�I�mean? 125 00:05:12,170 --> 00:05:13,769 But�I�ended�up�literally going�to�the�hole 126 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:16,040 for�six�months. 127 00:05:16,041 --> 00:05:18,209 I'm�glad�it�happened because,�you�know, 128 00:05:18,210 --> 00:05:20,050 it's�throwing�a rock�in�a�pond. 129 00:05:20,110 --> 00:05:24,780 If�that�ripple's�not�there, maybe�this�ripple's�not�here. 130 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:29,150 It's�just�the�stupid�shit I�walk�into�in�my�life. 131 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:30,780 ? 132 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:32,750 I�get�out�of�jail, it's�like�'84. 133 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:36,360 And�like,�this�new club�opens�up. 134 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:38,390 [Chattering] 135 00:05:38,391 --> 00:05:40,629 And�dude,�the�place holds�2,000�people. 136 00:05:40,630 --> 00:05:42,530 It's�like�five�storeys�high. 137 00:05:42,531 --> 00:05:44,129 It's�like�the greatest�thing�ever. 138 00:05:44,130 --> 00:05:47,400 So,�Thursday�nights�was�ten bucks�all�you�could�drink. 139 00:05:47,401 --> 00:05:49,169 So�I'm�out�there, I'm�on�the�dance�floor. 140 00:05:49,170 --> 00:05:51,539 Some�blonde�comes�up�and starts�dancing�with�me, 141 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:52,739 grabs�me�by�my�hand, 142 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:54,139 and�started�walking�me across�dance�floor. 143 00:05:54,140 --> 00:05:55,310 I'm�like,�"Alright. 144 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:58,050 Where�am�I�gonna�go�have sex�with�this�chick? 145 00:05:58,051 --> 00:06:00,909 Where�is-"�'Cause�that's exactly�what�I'm�thinking. 146 00:06:00,910 --> 00:06:02,850 We�end�up�going up�these�stairs. 147 00:06:02,851 --> 00:06:04,549 We're�in�this�little�frickin' office,�and�I'm�like, 148 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:06,849 "Well,�how�am�I�gonna�do this�in�this�little�office"? 149 00:06:06,850 --> 00:06:08,589 She�goes, "Take�your�shirt�off." 150 00:06:08,590 --> 00:06:09,819 I'm�thinking�how�am�I gonna�screw�her? 151 00:06:09,820 --> 00:06:12,029 She�goes,�"Listen, I'm�a�producer-director 152 00:06:12,030 --> 00:06:13,189 for�the�Chippendales. 153 00:06:13,190 --> 00:06:14,859 I�want�you�to�be�a Chippendales." 154 00:06:14,860 --> 00:06:16,559 I�was�one�of�those guys�who�wore�the 155 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,069 black�pants,�tight�pants, the�cuffs�and�the�collar, 156 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:20,829 and�I�just�entertain the�women. 157 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:22,599 Because�I�don't�leave�the club�until�two�o'clock 158 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,899 in�the�morning,�you�know. 159 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:25,669 You're�snorting�coke�with the�boys�who's�down 160 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:27,609 in�the�locker�room,�because that's�just�what�you�did 161 00:06:27,610 --> 00:06:29,509 back�in�them�days. You�know�what�I�mean? 162 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:31,409 And�then�I�go�out�to the�after-hours�club, 163 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:34,410 and�then�I�go�to�the�club that�opened�up�at�6�AM. 164 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:36,350 It's�just�crazy,�man. 165 00:06:36,351 --> 00:06:38,119 And�that�was�my�job�for the�next�year�or�so, 166 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,050 until�I�got�fired for�soliciting. 167 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:42,760 Soliciting. And�I�got... 168 00:06:42,761 --> 00:06:44,389 because�they�weren't paying�a�lot�of�money. 169 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:46,790 I�had�like�four�guys in�on�it�with�me. 170 00:06:46,860 --> 00:06:48,900 So,�it�was�100�bucks to�do�us, 171 00:06:48,901 --> 00:06:52,229 there�was�the�Alpine�Inn�down the�street,�that�was�42.50. 172 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:55,270 So�of�course,�100�for�us, 42.50�for�the�Alpine�Inn 173 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:56,970 for�however�long�it�took. 174 00:06:56,971 --> 00:07:00,109 And�that�lasted�for�about�six months,�until...�I�don't�know, 175 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:02,309 just�one�day�there's�a couple�of�state�troopers, 176 00:07:02,310 --> 00:07:04,649 they're�like,�"Listen,�we could�file�some�charges, 177 00:07:04,650 --> 00:07:06,820 or�you�could�quit and�tell�us�who, 178 00:07:06,821 --> 00:07:08,319 who�your�boys�are." I�said, 179 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,779 "Well,�I'm�not�telling you�who�my�boys�are. 180 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:11,389 That's�your�job�to figure�that�out. 181 00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:14,590 But,�I'll�quit." So�I�was�done. 182 00:07:14,591 --> 00:07:17,159 He�was�not�the�type�that�I would've�saw�myself 183 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800 going�for,�really. He�was�very... 184 00:07:19,801 --> 00:07:21,829 I�don't�know�if�you want�to�say�flamboyant, 185 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:24,400 but�something drew�me�to�him. 186 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:27,670 And�believe�it�or�not,�that night�we�sat�and�talked, 187 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:31,770 and�he�was�just�like, "I�think�I�could�love�you." 188 00:07:31,810 --> 00:07:34,280 -Hey,�I�work�quick. -[Laughing] 189 00:07:34,281 --> 00:07:36,179 Dude,�that's�kinda how�I've�been�with... 190 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:39,080 it's�like�I�meet�'em and�then,�like,�I'm�in. 191 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:42,110 I�ended�up�actually, a�few�months�later, 192 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:43,920 finding�out�I was�pregnant. 193 00:07:43,921 --> 00:07:46,919 And�he�said�he'd�like�to�get married�before�the�child 194 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,520 was�born�so�he�wasn't born�out�of�wedlock. 195 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:53,630 Miss�Peaches! 196 00:07:53,660 --> 00:07:55,660 [Cheering] 197 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:58,840 My�name�is Lori�Stolecki,�a.k.a. 198 00:07:58,870 --> 00:08:02,670 'Peaches'�from�ECW, and�Sandman's�ex-wife. 199 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:05,370 He�was�in�construction at�the�time, 200 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,340 and�Joel�Goodhart�opened up�a�wrestling�school. 201 00:08:08,341 --> 00:08:10,679 I�had�to�go�check�it�out, and�then�next�thing�you�know, 202 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,849 dude,�like,�three�days�later, I�gave�the�guy,�like, 203 00:08:12,850 --> 00:08:14,490 3,500�bucks. 204 00:08:14,491 --> 00:08:15,949 Three�months�later I�was�in�the�ring. 205 00:08:15,950 --> 00:08:17,379 It's�not�gonna�be�pretty. 206 00:08:17,380 --> 00:08:19,289 There's�gonna�be�blood, there's�gonna�be 207 00:08:19,290 --> 00:08:21,390 broken�bones,�and it's�me�and�you. 208 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:24,300 When�I�first�signed, it�was�probably�1991. 209 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,690 He�was�a�surfer. 210 00:08:25,691 --> 00:08:27,529 He�had�white�stuff�on�his nose,�he�wore�a�wetsuit, 211 00:08:27,530 --> 00:08:28,959 and�he�carried�a�surfboard. 212 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,630 From�South�Beach, California... 213 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:34,410 this�is�The�Sandman! 214 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:35,640 My�name's�Sabu. 215 00:08:35,641 --> 00:08:36,999 I've�been�wrestling over�30�years, 216 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,700 and�I�participated�in�ECW. 217 00:08:39,740 --> 00:08:41,480 Oh�my�God! 218 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:42,680 I,�I�remember�him. 219 00:08:42,681 --> 00:08:44,749 And�he�came�out�with Peaches,�his�wife. 220 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:47,409 I�met�up�with�the�promoter, and�he�goes,�"I�got�your�name. 221 00:08:47,410 --> 00:08:48,819 You're�gonna�be 'Mr.�Sandman'." 222 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:49,919 And�he�looks�at�my�wife, then�he�goes, 223 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,049 "You're�gonna�be�'Peaches'." 224 00:08:51,050 --> 00:08:53,720 Peaches! 225 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:56,420 He�used�to�wear�this god�awful�wetsuit 226 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:59,090 that�smelled�horrible. 227 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,660 I'm�Kelly,�and�The Sandman�is�my�dad. 228 00:09:02,661 --> 00:09:05,099 And�he�would�come�out with�my�mom,�Miss�Peaches, 229 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,429 and�he�would�come�out�with his�stupid�surfboard. 230 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:09,370 That�was�his�very first�gimmick. 231 00:09:09,371 --> 00:09:11,239 You�know,�it�started out�doing,�like, 232 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,240 little�gymnasiums,�and, like,�car�dealerships... 233 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:17,940 but�it�was,�like,�just�a fresh�new�company. 234 00:09:17,941 --> 00:09:19,709 It�was,�like, everybody�was�just 235 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:21,379 getting�their�bearings, you�know? 236 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:22,750 We're�feeling�it�out. 237 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:24,950 But,�he�was consistent�with�it. 238 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:26,720 It�was�like�his�life's�dream. 239 00:09:26,721 --> 00:09:29,419 It's�my�pleasure�being here�with�all�you�people, 240 00:09:29,420 --> 00:09:32,259 'cause�if�it�wasn't�for�you, I�wouldn't�have�this�belt! 241 00:09:32,260 --> 00:09:33,460 Irish�Whip! 242 00:09:33,530 --> 00:09:36,300 The�gimmick�was�bad, his�ability�was�not. 243 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,030 I�mean,�he's�big, he�was�good�looking, 244 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:40,870 very�bright,�very�athletic. 245 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:41,950 Oh! 246 00:09:41,951 --> 00:09:43,199 My�name�is�Tod�Gordon. 247 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,269 I'm�the�creator�and the�founder�of 248 00:09:44,270 --> 00:09:46,039 Extreme�Championship Wrestling. 249 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,309 Oh,�thank�heaven.�Here's�our commissioner,�here's�Tod. 250 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:50,409 Sandman�and�I�have�been�best friends�since�we�first�met 251 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:53,060 30�years�ago,�when�I started�my�own�company, 252 00:09:53,061 --> 00:09:54,649 which�was�Eastern Championship�Wrestling 253 00:09:54,650 --> 00:09:55,879 at�the�time, which�became 254 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,479 Extreme�Championship Wrestling. 255 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,320 He�was�on�my�first grouping�of�people�to�use. 256 00:10:00,321 --> 00:10:02,619 I've�had�that�belt, I've�been�there�before, 257 00:10:02,620 --> 00:10:04,420 and�I'll�be�there�again. 258 00:10:04,460 --> 00:10:06,830 Sandman�now�on�top�of�thing. 259 00:10:06,831 --> 00:10:09,429 Philadelphia's�Eastern Championship�Wrestling 260 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:11,630 was�a�struggling indie�promotion, 261 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:14,070 until�the�arrival�of Paul�Heyman, 262 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:17,140 who�transforms the�company�into 263 00:10:17,170 --> 00:10:19,510 Extreme�Championship Wrestling, 264 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:24,010 Look�at�him! Fuck�him! 265 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,350 Paul�Heyman�was�the right�guy�because 266 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:28,410 he�is�great�mind for�the�business. 267 00:10:28,450 --> 00:10:31,850 How�to�be�a�rule breaker�101. 268 00:10:31,851 --> 00:10:33,619 Dude,�he�is�the greatest�mind�ever�in, 269 00:10:33,620 --> 00:10:35,759 in�the�history�of professional�wrestling. 270 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,960 Creatively,�nobody�could touch�Paul�Heyman�and 271 00:10:38,990 --> 00:10:41,830 come�anywhere close�to�that�dude. 272 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:45,110 And�I�would�not�be�sitting here�right�now�if�it�wasn't 273 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:48,930 for�Paul�Heyman�giving�me the�ball�and�letting�me�run. 274 00:10:48,970 --> 00:10:50,610 First�night, I�go�in�there, 275 00:10:50,611 --> 00:10:52,639 fucking�he�sees�me with�the�surfboard. 276 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,980 He�goes,�"That's�getting�broken over�your�head�tonight." 277 00:10:55,981 --> 00:10:57,609 And�then�the�next thing�you�know, 278 00:10:57,610 --> 00:10:59,450 I�forgot�my�wrestling�boots. 279 00:10:59,451 --> 00:11:02,279 I'm�like,�"Paul,�sorry�dude, I�forgot�my�wrestling�boots." 280 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,480 He�goes,�"I�don't�give a�fuck."�And�I'm�like... 281 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,160 I�don't�have�to�wear wrestling�shoes�no�more. 282 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:13,800 Dude,�it�was�a�fucking�light bulb�going�off�in�my�head. 283 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:17,130 When�Paul�Heyman�says, "I�don't�give�a�fuck�if 284 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,230 you're�wearing�wrestling boots."�I'm�like,�boom, 285 00:11:20,231 --> 00:11:23,339 I'm�not�even�gonna�change. I'm�gonna�wear�the�clothes... 286 00:11:23,340 --> 00:11:26,540 I'm�gonna,�I'm�gonna�show up�to�the�arena,�and�dude, 287 00:11:26,570 --> 00:11:28,240 I'm�gonna�be�me. 288 00:11:28,310 --> 00:11:31,180 I'm�just�gonna�fucking be�me�out�there. 289 00:11:31,181 --> 00:11:32,379 And�it�got�to�that-�It�was at�that�point�I'm�like, 290 00:11:32,380 --> 00:11:33,979 you're�never gonna�be�able�to 291 00:11:33,980 --> 00:11:35,579 walk�through this�curtain�again. 292 00:11:35,580 --> 00:11:38,219 Like,�you,�you�literally cannot�enter�the�ring 293 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:41,060 like�a�normal wrestler�ever�again, 294 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:43,380 because�this�is�what's expected�of�you. 295 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,670 He�will�be�more�hardcore�than the�next�Traci�Lords�video. 296 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:56,770 And�as�for�me, Paul�E.�Dangerously, 297 00:11:56,771 --> 00:11:58,769 haven't�had�a shave�in�a�couple�of�weeks 298 00:11:58,770 --> 00:12:03,070 and�don't�look�like�I really�care�anymore! 299 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:05,250 Upon�Paul�Heyman's�arrival, 300 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,680 The�Sandman�drops his�surfer�look, 301 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:10,610 changing�with�the�times to�re-invent�himself 302 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,550 with�a�whole�new�persona. 303 00:12:12,551 --> 00:12:14,219 I�was�always trying�to�figure, 304 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,120 what�hasn't somebody�done? 305 00:12:16,190 --> 00:12:19,230 Well,�the�good�time's�over, here�comes�The�Sandman. 306 00:12:19,231 --> 00:12:21,629 I'm�the�guy�that's�in�the�bar, loses�a�game�of�pool, 307 00:12:21,630 --> 00:12:23,729 and�wants�to�get into�a�fight�with�ya. 308 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:25,730 That�was�me�in my�life,�dude. 309 00:12:25,731 --> 00:12:28,139 That�was�my�regular Friday�and�Saturday�night. 310 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:29,969 You�know�what�I�mean? Like,�I�was�a�gimmick... 311 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:33,570 by,�by�myself, born�as�a�gimmick. 312 00:12:33,571 --> 00:12:35,579 We�got�to�be�ourselves�in the�dressing�room�and 313 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:36,980 ourselves�in�the�ring. 314 00:12:36,981 --> 00:12:38,409 The�beauty�of Paul's�intelligence, 315 00:12:38,410 --> 00:12:40,580 is�he�makes�you figure�it�out. 316 00:12:40,610 --> 00:12:44,110 By�trial�and�error,�that's how�he�became�The�Sandman. 317 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:45,480 Hey,�daddy. 318 00:12:45,550 --> 00:12:47,990 My�name�is Bill�'Fonzie'�Alfonso, 319 00:12:48,050 --> 00:12:52,090 and�I�am�a�40�year plus�veteran�of 320 00:12:52,130 --> 00:12:53,400 sports�entertainment. 321 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:55,970 This�is�a�winner! He's�a�winner! 322 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Fuck�you,�asshole! 323 00:12:57,801 --> 00:13:00,299 He�would�put�things�together in�his�head�that 324 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:03,670 he�thought�would�work�in ECW,�and�they�did. 325 00:13:03,740 --> 00:13:05,680 Life's�a�bitch... 326 00:13:07,770 --> 00:13:09,940 and�then�you�marry�one. 327 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:11,980 He's�a�typical�Philly�guy. 328 00:13:11,981 --> 00:13:14,109 Like,�you�go�to�a�bar, you�get�in�a�brawl, 329 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:15,519 you�know, here's�the�dude. 330 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,360 He�was�a�relatable character. 331 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:21,460 People�could�kind�of�identify with�that�South�Philly�vibe. 332 00:13:21,461 --> 00:13:24,519 He�was�your�buddy�who�would come�off�the�couch�and�just 333 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,160 step�into�the�ring,�and�swing a�cane�and�drink�a�beer. 334 00:13:28,161 --> 00:13:30,259 My�name�is�Raven, professional�wrestling 335 00:13:30,260 --> 00:13:33,100 superstar,�but�you already�know�that. 336 00:13:33,130 --> 00:13:35,270 For�the�first�time�ever, 337 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:39,640 Raven�goes�one�on�one with�The�Sandman. 338 00:13:39,641 --> 00:13:42,479 You�know,�every�fan�says, "Oh,�I�would�get�in�the�ring." 339 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,020 Sandman�with�the guillotine�leg�drop. 340 00:13:45,021 --> 00:13:47,149 But�he's�the�guy�that actually�goes�and�does�it. 341 00:13:47,150 --> 00:13:49,449 Part�of�being�a�good�worker is�knowing�how�to�get�your 342 00:13:49,450 --> 00:13:51,989 character�over�and�how�to keep�the�character�over. 343 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:55,560 And�he's�done�that�for, you�know,�35�years�now. 344 00:13:55,791 --> 00:14:01,129 Well,�yeah!�And�like, coming�through�the�crowd. 345 00:14:01,130 --> 00:14:03,630 I�think�I�came�through the�crowd�because, 346 00:14:03,631 --> 00:14:05,829 me�and�Missy�were�coming through�the�crowd. 347 00:14:05,830 --> 00:14:11,000 [Laughing]�Dude. Me�and�Missy. 348 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,180 [Laughing]�We're�in fucking�Queens, 349 00:14:16,210 --> 00:14:18,810 and�there�is this�strip�club. 350 00:14:18,811 --> 00:14:21,679 Me�and�Missy�are�over�in�the strip�club�and�my�music's 351 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,849 playing,�it's�already played�once�this�whole�time. 352 00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:26,549 So,�I�wasn't�going,�fucking up�through�the�back, 353 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:27,720 into�in�there. 354 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:30,350 I�just�went�through the�front�fucking�door. 355 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:32,260 Boom!�Light�bulb. 356 00:14:32,261 --> 00:14:34,329 Nobody's�come�through the�crowd�before. 357 00:14:34,330 --> 00:14:36,759 Just�drinking�his�beer, walking�through�the�audience. 358 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,399 Meanwhile,�he's�drunk�off his�ass�by�then,�geez. 359 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,599 Then�he's�drinking�five on�the�way�to�the�ring. 360 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,870 We�trusted�him�because 361 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:46,570 we�knew�he�was able�to�do�it. 362 00:14:46,610 --> 00:14:49,580 My�name�is�RVD. That�stands�for... 363 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:52,680 Rob!�Van!�Dam! 364 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:55,080 [Cheering] 365 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,360 You�know,�he�proved�himself that�he�was�able�to 366 00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:00,390 wrestle�when he�was�drunk. 367 00:15:00,391 --> 00:15:01,959 Watching�him,�I�would�get nervous�with�his 368 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,519 freaking�ass,�climbing�up�on the�top�rope�and�I'm�like, 369 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,790 "Is�he�really�gonna attempt�this 370 00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:08,600 aerial�maneuver right�now"? 371 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:10,700 Oh! 372 00:15:10,730 --> 00:15:12,570 I�know�I�can trust�him�drunk. 373 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,100 Anybody�drunk?�No. 374 00:15:14,130 --> 00:15:16,270 Sandman,�yes. Anybody�else? 375 00:15:16,271 --> 00:15:18,469 I�wouldn't�allow�it�either. But�Sandman... 376 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:19,870 you're�not�drunk? 377 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:21,840 I'm�not�wrestling�you. [Laughing] 378 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,610 So,�it's�a�Sunday. 379 00:15:25,611 --> 00:15:26,949 Paul's�like, "Let's�go�outside." 380 00:15:26,950 --> 00:15:28,879 And�we're�standing�next to�this�fucking�tree. 381 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,949 Paul�goes,�"You�know that�kid�overseas�that 382 00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:33,090 got�caught�spray painting�the�car"? 383 00:15:33,091 --> 00:15:34,789 I'm�like,�"Yeah,�kid, Michael�Fay."�He�goes, 384 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:36,489 "Good,�you�know�what I'm�talking�about." 385 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:39,129 Singapore�had�sentenced�an 18�year�old�American 386 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:41,500 to�six�strokes�with a�bamboo�cane. 387 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,900 And�I�said,�"Yeah." 388 00:15:42,901 --> 00:15:44,499 Dude,�you�ever�see�that fucking�cane�that�they�use? 389 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,629 Every�shot�they�hit�you with�it�makes�you�bleed. 390 00:15:46,630 --> 00:15:48,999 He�goes,�"You're�gonna�start carrying�a�Singapore�cane 391 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,239 to�the�ring."�I'm�like,�"Paul, okay,�what�am�I�gonna�use"? 392 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,610 He�goes... 393 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,980 rips�a�branch�off the�fucking�tree, 394 00:15:56,981 --> 00:15:59,249 rips�all�the�little�other branches�off�it,�says, 395 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,649 "Get�some�tape, wrap�it�around�there. 396 00:16:00,650 --> 00:16:02,149 That's�gonna�be your�Singapore�cane. 397 00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:03,749 I�want�you�to�cut a�promo�with�it." 398 00:16:03,750 --> 00:16:07,190 The�first�ever Singapore�Caning�Match. 399 00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:12,260 May�14th Saturday�night�ECW! 400 00:16:12,290 --> 00:16:16,260 And�now�it's�The�Sandman caning�Iron�Man�Tommy�Cairo. 401 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:18,600 -[Smacking] -Did�you�hear�that? 402 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:21,880 And�then�the,�the�angle�with Dreamer,�just.�[Whistling] 403 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,610 It�went�to�ten�lashes. 404 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,110 I�can't�look! 405 00:16:26,140 --> 00:16:27,640 Ah! 406 00:16:27,641 --> 00:16:29,379 It�skyrocketed�both of�our�careers. 407 00:16:29,380 --> 00:16:32,149 He�got�his�ass�kicked, but�he�took�it�like�a�man. 408 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:33,850 And�Philly�loves�that. 409 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,550 Thank�you,�sir. May�I�have�another! 410 00:16:37,551 --> 00:16:39,849 And�The�Sandman�takes an�eleventh�shot! 411 00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:42,290 It's�hardcore because�it's�real. 412 00:16:42,291 --> 00:16:44,989 And�to�me�you're�pulling something�out�of�the�inside 413 00:16:44,990 --> 00:16:47,990 of�somebody�that�they're feeling�somehow 414 00:16:47,991 --> 00:16:49,459 what�you're�doing in�the�ring. 415 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:52,300 Hardcore�isn't�violence to�do�violence. 416 00:16:52,301 --> 00:16:55,339 To�me,�like,�the�hardcore is�violence�for�a�reason. 417 00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:57,199 And�then�it�just means�more�people, 418 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,539 and�you�can�see�it in�their�faces. 419 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:00,340 You�can�see�how�they�react. 420 00:17:00,370 --> 00:17:02,240 Sandman�wasn't�a�wrestler. 421 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:04,380 He�was�a�entertainer. 422 00:17:04,381 --> 00:17:06,409 That�cigarette�hit�our cameraman�right�in�the�eye. 423 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:08,250 That's�what�ECW�was�about. 424 00:17:08,251 --> 00:17:09,719 Wrestling�is�entertainment. 425 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,019 You�don't�have�to�do�a wristlock,�a�wristwatch, 426 00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:13,589 a�moonsault�to get�over�it. 427 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:15,490 It�doesn't�have to�be�wrestling. 428 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,730 I'm�getting�ready�to�take�you to�a�new�level�of�extreme! 429 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,260 Ah! 430 00:17:22,261 --> 00:17:24,859 He�got�better�and�better�and knew�how�to�play�The�Sandman, 431 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:27,160 and�he�was�just acting�this�part�out. 432 00:17:27,161 --> 00:17:28,869 Everybody�was�kind of�riding�that�high. 433 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:30,899 Everyone�was�like,�"Man, like,�they�made�it." 434 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:33,439 We're�in�this�very concentrated�community�and 435 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,880 everybody�knew who�he�was. 436 00:17:35,881 --> 00:17:38,879 He�dropped�me�off�at�school and�he's�got�gash�marks 437 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,879 on�his�head�from�like the�beer�cans. 438 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,749 And�my�teacher's like,�"The�fuck... 439 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:44,250 Tyler,�you�alright?" 440 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,850 I'm�Tyler�Fullington,�and The�Sandman�is�my�father. 441 00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:50,190 Every�time�he�was�home, you�know, 442 00:17:50,191 --> 00:17:51,789 he�made�sure�to�spend�time with�us�because 443 00:17:51,790 --> 00:17:54,289 he�knew�he�would�be�on the�road,�you�know, 444 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:55,690 a�lot,�and�be�away. 445 00:17:55,691 --> 00:17:58,129 And�he�wanted�to�make sure�that�his�kids�were 446 00:17:58,130 --> 00:17:59,569 having�his�time when�he�was�home. 447 00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:00,929 You�know, hurting�or�not. 448 00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:02,369 He�would�just roll�out�of�bed, 449 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:04,940 throw�pants�on�and�like, let's�roll. 450 00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:07,270 Literally,�he�would�say, "Let's�roll"! 451 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:10,750 The�older�and�older�I�got�I felt,�this�is�cool�and�all, 452 00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:15,820 but�times�I'd�rather just�have�my�dad�around. 453 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:20,090 Sandman's�schedule�becomes�even more�punishing 454 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,220 as�ECW�explodes�in�popularity 455 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:25,460 by�constantly�pushing�their�own limits. 456 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:31,230 Paul's�show�is aimed�at�adults. 457 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:33,500 The�Sandman�exposes his�ex-wife! 458 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:36,910 And�so�storylines were�adult. 459 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:39,180 The�Sandman's�got a�hold�of�his�wife! 460 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,310 He�just,�he�just pulled�up�her... 461 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:43,280 and�woman�is lashing�Peaches! 462 00:18:43,281 --> 00:18:44,679 Just�thought�like, this�is�like�the 463 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,080 furthest�thing from�pro�wrestling. 464 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:50,280 But�Paul�would guide�us�the�way 465 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,920 the�ECW�energy needed�to�be. 466 00:18:52,921 --> 00:18:55,659 Well,�I�had�Nancy�with�me, too,�so�that�helps. 467 00:18:55,660 --> 00:18:57,360 Why�thank�you, Sandman. 468 00:18:57,361 --> 00:18:59,159 And�that's�just the�beginning. 469 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,259 I've�been�known�to enhance�a�few�careers. 470 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:03,530 She�was�so�smart. I�would�be�like, 471 00:19:03,531 --> 00:19:04,959 "Yeah,�I�want�to�do�it this�way."�She�goes, 472 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,329 "No,�we're�not doing�it�that�way. 473 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:08,539 We're�doing�it�this�way." I'm�like,�"Alright." 474 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:12,010 -Woman! -[Cheering] 475 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,780 And�so�if�something happens�outside�of�the 476 00:19:15,781 --> 00:19:17,939 wrestling�world, they're�gonna�go�with�it, 477 00:19:17,940 --> 00:19:19,979 and�the�fans�are�gonna know�about�it�anyway 478 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:22,450 because�they�were�all, what�we�called 479 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,220 'the�smart�fans' or�'the�smarks.' 480 00:19:25,221 --> 00:19:27,949 I�walk�into�the�building and�Paul�Heyman�goes�to�me, 481 00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:31,190 "I've�been�talking�to Macaulay�Culkin. 482 00:19:31,191 --> 00:19:32,659 This�is�what�we're�gonna�do. 483 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:34,489 We're�gonna�bring�him�in as�your�kid."�And�I'm�like, 484 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:36,299 "Dude,�I�have�a Macaulay�Culkin�sitting 485 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,899 right�out�in�my�van." He�goes,�"Great! 486 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:39,670 We'll�use�Tyler." 487 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,540 That's�just�one of�Paul's�lies. 488 00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:44,160 Had�no�connection�to Macaulay�Culkin�at�all. 489 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:46,870 Yeah. 490 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:48,210 Of�course�they�do. 491 00:19:48,211 --> 00:19:50,209 He�could�sell�you�snowballs in�winter,�trust�me. 492 00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:51,739 Yeah,�I�was�about six�years�old. 493 00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:54,210 My�mom, dad�came�up�to�me. 494 00:19:54,211 --> 00:19:56,249 "How�would�you�like�to�be, like,�part�of�the�show,�or..."? 495 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:58,850 I'm�like, "Uh,�I�guess"? 496 00:19:58,851 --> 00:20:00,149 You�know, what�am�I�gonna�do? 497 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:02,219 I�just�remember�he�takes my�wife,�and�then�he, 498 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:05,650 and�then�he�takes�my�kid,�and then�we're�off�to�the�races. 499 00:20:10,301 --> 00:20:15,599 The�Sandman'swife�Lauri�has�long been�an�ECW�fixture 500 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,199 as�part�of�her�husband's storylines. 501 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,840 And�now�takes�center�stage�in his�latest�feud�with�Raven 502 00:20:21,170 --> 00:20:23,110 You�took�my�child. 503 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:28,020 Tonight,�I'm�gonna�take�you, Raven,�to�the�extreme. 504 00:20:28,021 --> 00:20:30,449 However,�the�idea�of�bringing his�son�Tyler�into�the�mix 505 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:31,879 was�something�the wrestling�world 506 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,920 hasn't�seen�and wouldn't�expect. 507 00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:35,250 Oh�dear�Lord... 508 00:20:35,290 --> 00:20:38,360 I�don't�even�know how�it�all�began. 509 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:42,360 Inside�this�woman's�body, began�the�constant 510 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,800 evolution�of�the Sandman's�successor. 511 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:48,570 Sandman�and�my�feud, I�would�say, 512 00:20:48,571 --> 00:20:51,069 is�one�of�the�greatest feuds�in�the�history�of�the 513 00:20:51,070 --> 00:20:53,639 business,�but�I'm�partial 'cause�I�was�in�the�feud. 514 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480 But�I�really�think�that. 515 00:20:55,481 --> 00:20:58,109 Everybody�knows�somebody who�has�a�marriage�that 516 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:00,950 got�ended�in�divorce�where the�child�is�used�as 517 00:21:00,980 --> 00:21:03,880 a�prop�to�gain concessions. 518 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,990 All�the�abuse,�the�suffering, the�emotional�alienation�that 519 00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:11,050 I�took�as�a�child�is now�being�inflicted 520 00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:13,260 upon�your�son, Sandman. 521 00:21:13,261 --> 00:21:14,889 And�it's�the�most lowdown,�dirty, 522 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:16,590 and�cruel�thing you�can�do. 523 00:21:16,591 --> 00:21:18,329 So�I'm�like,�"Oh, this�is�great." 524 00:21:18,330 --> 00:21:20,669 The�main�crux�of�it�was�that Raven�and�Sandman�had�been 525 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:23,269 feuding�and�they�wanted to�take�it�the�next�level. 526 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:26,240 So�Raven,�quote�unquote, stole�Sandman's�wife. 527 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:28,310 I've�already�pimped her�out�to 528 00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:30,510 the�whole�locker room�before. 529 00:21:30,511 --> 00:21:32,149 But�then�he�stole Sandman's�son�Tyler, 530 00:21:32,150 --> 00:21:34,109 which�was�really controversial�because 531 00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:37,019 we�had�a�kid�who's�like five�years�old�in�the�ring. 532 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:39,490 Next�thing�you�know, here�we�are. 533 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,290 He's�got�a�little flannel�shirt�on�and... 534 00:21:42,291 --> 00:21:44,659 and�they�just�coached�him in�the�back�a�little�bit 535 00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:47,460 just�what�to�say. And,�you�know... 536 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,830 Don't�you�dare�fucking smile�out�there. 537 00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:51,460 Nothing. 538 00:21:51,461 --> 00:21:54,169 I�don't�want�any�reaction from�you�on�anything. 539 00:21:54,170 --> 00:21:56,640 This�is�where�your�face�is. 540 00:21:56,641 --> 00:21:58,499 What�do�you�think about�that,�kid? 541 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,869 That's�your�face�and that's�the�way�you�stay. 542 00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:02,639 Look�at�him,�there's�the face�right�there. 543 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,179 There's�the�face,�that, that's�the�face 544 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:06,170 that�I�always�told�him to�have�on. 545 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:07,510 The�money�shot. 546 00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:12,150 I�can�close�my�eyes�and�see him�dressed�like�Raven. 547 00:22:12,190 --> 00:22:13,520 It�was�crazy. 548 00:22:13,550 --> 00:22:15,790 I�was�young�and�naive. 549 00:22:15,791 --> 00:22:17,959 You�know,�me�and�my�mom are�coming�down�the�aisle. 550 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,489 Raven's�a�bloody�mess, got�barbed�wire 551 00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:20,789 in�his�hair�or something�like�that. 552 00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:22,829 We�just�get�in�the�front, Raven�says, 553 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:23,960 "Tyler,�tell�him." 554 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,640 -Tyler,�tell�him! -Daddy,�you're�drunk! 555 00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:29,170 Now�I�worship�Raven. 556 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,700 I�hit�the�line�and�you could�hear,�like, 557 00:22:31,740 --> 00:22:34,380 a�somberness,�like almost�over�the�crowd. 558 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:38,650 Like,�"Ooh."�Like, like�that�hurt. 559 00:22:38,651 --> 00:22:40,879 It�wasn't�like�a�cheer. It�wasn't�like�a�boo. 560 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,520 Like�it�was�like... 561 00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:44,750 oh,�shit. Like,�damn. 562 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:48,490 "I�worship�Raven."�And�the whole�place�was�like... 563 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,420 [Gasping] 564 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:54,600 Quiet. 565 00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:57,060 And�you�don't�hear that�in�the�arena. 566 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,600 These�people�ate�it�up. 567 00:22:58,601 --> 00:22:59,869 They�were�just�like, "Holy�shit, 568 00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,510 you�just�hurt The�Sandman." 569 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:04,570 Like,�Raven�became�the, the�heel's�heel. 570 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 You�know,�now�you�came�in and�you�stole�his�family. 571 00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:10,170 That�shit�put asses�in�seats. 572 00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:11,780 [Crying] 573 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,940 Don't�do�this�to�me! 574 00:23:14,010 --> 00:23:15,510 Tyler�is�an�amazing�actor. 575 00:23:15,511 --> 00:23:17,779 Hey,�you�little�bastard, why�don't�you�shut�up? 576 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:20,220 The�Sandman's�not even�your�real�dad. 577 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:22,020 [Gasping] 578 00:23:22,021 --> 00:23:24,619 He�never�missed�a�cue. He�never�missed�a�spot. 579 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,760 -This�sucks. -Shut�up,�kid. 580 00:23:26,761 --> 00:23:29,199 We'd�be�gone�doing promos�after�the�show, 581 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,099 and�I'd�be�drunk,�and I'd�screw�up�a�promo, 582 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:32,569 or�I'd�forget�to give�him�the�line, 583 00:23:32,570 --> 00:23:34,369 and�he�would�still�hit the�line�anyway 584 00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:35,539 exactly�in�the�right�spot. 585 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:36,769 I�mean, he�was�amazing. 586 00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:38,210 Hey,�kid. 587 00:23:38,211 --> 00:23:40,609 You�know�the�divorce�was your�daddy's�fault,�don't�ya? 588 00:23:40,610 --> 00:23:42,210 I�know. 589 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,410 I�think�I�know�now, more, 590 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,240 like�looking�back on�it,�like... 591 00:23:46,241 --> 00:23:47,449 man,�yeah, those�guys�were 592 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:49,279 pretty�fucking�crazy, you�know?�Like... 593 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,050 but�at�the�time, I�was�just�being�a�kid. 594 00:23:52,051 --> 00:23:54,549 I�don't�even�know�if�I�was prepared�for�it,�and�I'm�like, 595 00:23:54,550 --> 00:23:57,619 "Oh,�my�God,�this�is�really happening."�And�I'm�thinking, 596 00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:00,630 "This�is�gonna�turn�my�life upside�down."�You�know? 597 00:24:00,631 --> 00:24:02,629 'Cause�everything had�to�be�separate. 598 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:05,500 Travel�separate, show�up�separate, 599 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:08,170 leave�separate. It�was�crazy. 600 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:11,130 We'd�be�leaving�the arena,�separate�cars, 601 00:24:11,170 --> 00:24:12,810 and�you�have�a meeting�spot. 602 00:24:12,811 --> 00:24:15,409 You�pulled�up�to�the�gas station�and�kinda�look�like, 603 00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:16,939 anybody�with�an ECW�shirt�on? 604 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:18,679 Like,�alright,�get�out, switch�cars, 605 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,509 like�get�back�in�the�car, you�know,�stuff�like�that. 606 00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:23,010 You�know,�the�marks, they're�always�out, 607 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,340 always�looking�for�ya. 608 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:27,190 They�know�exactly�who you�are,�where�you�go. 609 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:30,790 And�it's�hard�trying�to�keep that�whole�storyline 610 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:34,120 separate�for�as long�as�we�did. 611 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,260 Me,�my�dad, my�mom,�Tyler... 612 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:38,940 we�did�this�all�together. 613 00:24:38,941 --> 00:24:40,469 They�might've�been in�the�spotlight, 614 00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:42,170 but�we�did�this all�together. 615 00:24:42,171 --> 00:24:44,669 We're�traveling�to�shows constantly�every�week. 616 00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:47,040 You�know, that�was�life. 617 00:24:47,041 --> 00:24:49,139 Shit,�there�were�times�we'd be�driving�around�New�York 618 00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:50,979 and�they�would�find�this, like,�playground. 619 00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:52,679 It's�like�two�o'clock in�the�morning. 620 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,649 We�were�in�like, bum�fuck�New�York, 621 00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:56,649 and�it�was�pouring�rain, and�Raven�saying, 622 00:24:56,650 --> 00:24:59,350 "This�is�like�the best�weather�to�like, 623 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:00,990 we�gotta�shoot this�promo." 624 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:04,390 I�am�their�salvation. 625 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:08,200 And�at�the�very�end�they cut�to�me,�and�I�just�said- 626 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:11,370 Quote�the�Raven, nevermore. 627 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,740 "Quote�the�Raven, nevermore." 628 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,170 [Laughing] 629 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,580 I�had�one�line,�cut�it, 630 00:25:18,581 --> 00:25:20,209 and�I�guess�I�got�to go�back�to�sleep. 631 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:23,550 [Laughing]�You�see, I�control�the�children. 632 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,580 I�just�think�they�got�away with�doing�so�much 633 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,990 that�other companies�didn't. 634 00:25:29,020 --> 00:25:32,060 And�they�just�really pushed�the�line. 635 00:25:32,061 --> 00:25:34,389 They�pushed�every limit�that�they�could. 636 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:36,990 This�is�just�heartbreaking. 637 00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:39,990 I�couldn't�do�it�mentally anymore�and�I�didn't 638 00:25:39,991 --> 00:25:42,229 want�my�kids�to�be�a part�of�it�anymore. 639 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:45,870 It�was�too�much. 640 00:25:45,871 --> 00:25:48,429 The�Sandman�and�Raven's storyline�proves�to�be 641 00:25:48,430 --> 00:25:50,570 a�massive�success�for�the company. 642 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,540 But�their�attempt�to�take�it�to the�next�level 643 00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:57,610 could�end�up�bringing�ECW�down. 644 00:25:57,611 --> 00:25:59,679 The�best�way�to�describe Raven�is�he's�a�martyr�for 645 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,049 society's�dysfunction, and�he�wants�everyone 646 00:26:02,050 --> 00:26:03,620 to�feel�his�pain. 647 00:26:03,621 --> 00:26:05,349 So�I�came�up�with�the idea�of�putting�Sandman�up 648 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:07,889 on�a�cross�so�he�could�feel my�pain.�So�I'm�like, 649 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:09,219 "I�can't�build�a�cross." He�goes, 650 00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:11,060 "I'll�build�it,�idiot�face." 651 00:26:11,061 --> 00:26:12,459 Dude,�people�don't realize�that, 652 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:13,859 that�I�used�to build�shit,�dude. 653 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:15,529 That's�what�I�was. I�was,�fuckin'... 654 00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:17,900 I�was�a�roofer, I�was�a�concrete�dude, 655 00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:19,470 I�was�a�carpenter. 656 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:20,800 So... [chuckles] 657 00:26:20,801 --> 00:26:22,799 he�built�his�own�cross�and we�had�a�thorny�crown, 658 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,800 we�had�a�barbed�wire�crown to�be�the�thorny�crown. 659 00:26:26,801 --> 00:26:29,779 Oh�yeah,�we�made�sure�we�got all�the�little�touches�on�it. 660 00:26:29,780 --> 00:26:31,539 So�we�throw�Sandman out�to�the�floor,�me, 661 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,079 Stevie�and�the Meanie�and�Nova, 662 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,580 and�we�start�tying him�to�the�cross. 663 00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:39,120 We�start�hoisting�it�up... 664 00:26:39,150 --> 00:26:42,390 and�all�of�a�sudden�the place�goes,�"Oh,�shit." 665 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:45,590 Putting�my�dad on�a�cross. 666 00:26:45,591 --> 00:26:48,159 That's�the,�it's�a�holy figure-�[laughing] 667 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,460 with�barbed�wire�wrapped around�his�head�as�if�he�is, 668 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:55,970 you�know,�this�embodiment of�Jesus�Christ. 669 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640 I�wasn't�raised�very religious,�clearly, 670 00:26:58,670 --> 00:27:01,610 but�somebody's seeing�that.�I,�I�mean, 671 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,580 I�was�like,�"What�the�fuck is�gonna�happen�now"? 672 00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:17,750 As�the�Sandman�and�Raven�steal the�ECW�spotlight, 673 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:20,130 both�are�looking�to�shock�the audience 674 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,970 But�neither�man�is�prepared for�the�backstage�fallout. 675 00:27:24,971 --> 00:27:26,599 I'm�on�the�cross and�Stevie's�like, 676 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,499 "This�is�fucked�up."�I'm�like, "Shut�the�fuck�up, 677 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,669 this�is�great,�Stevie."�And then�we�get�to�the�fucking, 678 00:27:30,670 --> 00:27:32,269 fucking�back, I'm�like,�"Damn, 679 00:27:32,270 --> 00:27:34,140 that�was�fucking great,�guys"! 680 00:27:34,141 --> 00:27:36,479 And�Paul�E.'s�like,�"There's so�much�heat�on�this." 681 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,950 I'm�like,�"Why?" 682 00:27:37,951 --> 00:27:39,609 And�then�everything�was�great except�fucking�Kurt�Angle 683 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:41,149 happened�to�be�in�the�fucking building�that�night. 684 00:27:41,150 --> 00:27:43,549 You�know,�he's�this�Olympian, it's�his�first�time�being 685 00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:45,900 around�pro�wrestling and�shit�like�that. 686 00:28:06,501 --> 00:28:11,909 Paul�wants�to�get�this Olympic�fucking�champion�to 687 00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:14,379 come�work�for�fucking�ECW, you�know�what�I�mean? 688 00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:16,020 So�Paul's�kissing�his�ass. 689 00:28:16,021 --> 00:28:18,519 So,�they�get�fucking�Raven to�go�out�and�apol- 690 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,349 I�said, "That's�fucking�bullshit. 691 00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:22,019 I�disagree. Fuck�all�you�dudes." 692 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:23,560 And�I�just�walked�away. 693 00:28:23,561 --> 00:28:25,759 And�so,�for�the�people who�I�deeply�offended, 694 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,860 I�apologize. 695 00:28:27,861 --> 00:28:29,359 Despite�the�controversy surrounding 696 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,400 the�crucifixtion�angle. 697 00:28:31,401 --> 00:28:33,729 the�scandal�doesn't�slow�The Sandman's�momentum. 698 00:28:33,730 --> 00:28:35,069 Dude, are�you�kidding�me? 699 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:38,270 Me�and�my�man�Scorp, we�have�the�Tag�Team�titles. 700 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:42,510 I�have�the�Heavyweight�title and�he's�got�the�TV�title. 701 00:28:42,511 --> 00:28:45,079 When�you�and�your�boy�got�all the�titles�in�the�company, 702 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,249 then�you�know�you're doing�something�right. 703 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:50,290 Despite�the�accolades�and championships 704 00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:53,720 life�on�the�road�and ECW's�hard�hitting�style 705 00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:56,890 are�taking�a�toll�on�The Sandman's�body. 706 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,390 Oh�my�God! 707 00:28:59,391 --> 00:29:04,529 What,�are�you�kidding�me? I've�broken�like�27�bones. 708 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:08,300 Yeah.�Broken�my�neck, this�clavicle�three�times, 709 00:29:08,301 --> 00:29:11,069 I�need�a�new�hip,�I�need two�shoulder�surgeries. 710 00:29:11,070 --> 00:29:13,210 Dude,�Superplex off�the�top�rope�is 711 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,080 a�30�mile�an hour�car�crash. 712 00:29:15,081 --> 00:29:17,709 Imagine�doing�ten�of�them every�day�of�your�life. 713 00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:21,080 Forget�it.�I�got operated�on, 714 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:23,480 this�leg�is�operated�on, that�morning. 715 00:29:23,550 --> 00:29:26,490 They�shaved�my�meniscus and�flew�back�to�Philly. 716 00:29:26,491 --> 00:29:28,489 I�came�into�the�ring�where, I�had�crutches. 717 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:29,719 You�know�what I'm�saying? 718 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,890 You�love�what�you're doing�so�much 719 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,320 that�you�just�don't�care. 720 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,560 I�actually�was home�one�night, 721 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 and�I�got�a�call�from�Tod, and�he�said, 722 00:29:40,401 --> 00:29:42,839 "Hak's�got�a�concussion�and he�can't�remember." 723 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,569 And�I�was�like,�"Oh, that's�a�good�one. 724 00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:48,110 You�guys�just�go�have�fun and�stop�trying�to�goat�me." 725 00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:50,480 And�he's�like, "I'm�not�kidding. 726 00:29:50,481 --> 00:29:53,279 He�got�hit�in�the�head�and�he doesn't�remember�anything." 727 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,920 He's�like,�"I'm�dead�serious." So�I�had�gone�down, 728 00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:01,620 and�sure�enough, here�he�was. 729 00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:04,290 "Who�won�the�match? What�did�it�look�like?" 730 00:30:04,291 --> 00:30:06,329 I�said,�"I�don't�know. I�wasn't�there." 731 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,430 "Who�won�the�match?" It�was�relentless. 732 00:30:09,431 --> 00:30:10,859 And�then�that�was�early�on, 733 00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,830 and�there�is�countless times�after�that. 734 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:16,270 I�was�like,�"You�can't keep�doing�this. 735 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:20,800 You're�not�gonna�be�able�to do�things�with�the�kids." 736 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,170 You�know... 737 00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:25,450 they�just�wanna�keep�on going,�that's�all�they�know. 738 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,120 You�get�hurt, you�get�hurt. 739 00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:31,220 So�be�it. Suck�it�the�fuck�up. 740 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280 He�would�never�take�a�pill. 741 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,690 And�then�it�just�got to�a�point�where 742 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,820 you�get�in�this�pain�and... 743 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:40,460 well,�okay,�couple. 744 00:30:40,461 --> 00:30:43,499 Leads�to�a�couple�more,�and your�body�gets�used�to�it, 745 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:46,400 and�a�couple�more... and�then�you're�drinking. 746 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:49,840 And�then�you�gotta�go�to bed�so�you're�taking�Xanax, 747 00:30:49,870 --> 00:30:52,910 and�then�you�gotta�be�up so�you're�doing�cocaine. 748 00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:55,340 It's�a�vicious�cycle. 749 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:59,510 And�once�you�get�on�it, it's�very�hard�to�get�off. 750 00:30:59,511 --> 00:31:01,749 You�know,�I,�I�knew what�was�going�on. 751 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,879 I�knew�what�he�kept in�his�fanny�pack. 752 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,419 What�am�I�gonna�say? I'm�a�kid. 753 00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:06,989 I�don't�know. I'm�12,�13�years�old. 754 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:09,689 Like,�I�don't�know�what a�Xanax�is,�or,�you�know, 755 00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:11,490 a�perk�or...�whatever. 756 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,390 At�the�time,�like, pain�medicine. 757 00:31:14,391 --> 00:31:16,329 That's�all�I�know, and�if,�you�know, 758 00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:18,359 I�gotta�trust�him.�"Yes, to�help�my�back, 759 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,230 help�my�neck,�help." You�know? 760 00:31:20,231 --> 00:31:22,069 Alright.�You�gotta do�what�you�gotta�do. 761 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:24,939 You�work�300�nights�a�year getting�body�slammed�and 762 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:26,780 you�tell�me�what you�would�do. 763 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080 You�know,�as�time went�on,�of�course, 764 00:31:29,081 --> 00:31:31,239 they�have�the�barbed�wire, the�chairs, 765 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,510 the�light�bulbs, the�tacks. 766 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:37,590 So,�a�couple�Perks, some�Somas... 767 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,360 and�it�just�progressed. 768 00:31:40,361 --> 00:31:43,219 I�used�to�joke�back�then, if�you�pass�a�piss�test, 769 00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:44,520 you�can't�work�for�us. 770 00:31:44,521 --> 00:31:47,089 We�all�got�high,�we�all partied,�it's�what�we�did. 771 00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:49,560 I�remember�my�first bag�of�pills�I�found. 772 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,370 I�knew�exactly what�it�was. 773 00:31:51,371 --> 00:31:53,429 I�remember�my�first�bag of�coke�that�I�found. 774 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:55,070 First�line�of�coke�I�found. 775 00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,200 The�older�and�older�I�got, he�was�taking�drugs, 776 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,110 you�know,�just�going down�the�wrong�path. 777 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,040 We�used�to�go,�on�one month�every�Friday, 778 00:32:04,041 --> 00:32:05,739 we'd�have�three�doctors that�we�would 779 00:32:05,740 --> 00:32:07,410 go�see�in�Philadelphia. 780 00:32:07,450 --> 00:32:12,760 All�three�doctors�would�give us�90�OxyContin�eighties. 781 00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:16,990 So,�you're�getting�270 OxyContin�eighties, 782 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,430 you're�getting 300�Percocets, 783 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:23,630 you're�getting�300�Somas. 784 00:32:23,631 --> 00:32:25,459 And�everybody�would come�out,�we�would�call�it, 785 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:26,969 oh,�we�would get�our�booty. 786 00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:28,629 There�was�a�lot of�drugs�that 787 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:30,069 went�around�the dressing�room. 788 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:32,339 I�remember�one�time�I had�a�friend�that�had 789 00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:34,239 brought�me�some mushrooms,�and�I�was 790 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,410 looking�forward�to�trying them�after�my�match. 791 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,580 I�came�for�them�later and�my�bag�was�empty, 792 00:32:41,581 --> 00:32:44,149 and�I�was�like,�"Man, who�ate�my�mushrooms"? 793 00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:46,860 And�Sandman�was�like, "Oh,�were�those�yours"? 794 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,190 [Laughing]�He�ate the�whole�bag. 795 00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:53,160 He�should�be�dead. Sandman�should�be�dead. 796 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:56,460 Raven,�Sandman�and�I was�driving�in�a�car 797 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,270 we�were�going�200�miles. 798 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,840 Raven�had�got�hurt like�the�week�before. 799 00:33:00,870 --> 00:33:03,140 He�had�a�ruptured disc�taken�out, 800 00:33:03,170 --> 00:33:07,940 so�they�gave�him�this highly�addictive�narcotic. 801 00:33:07,941 --> 00:33:10,479 So�we�have�to�stop�at�a�gas station�so�I�can�go�to 802 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,109 the�bathroom�and�so I�can�shoot�up, 803 00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:13,809 'cause�I�gotta get�my�dose�in. 804 00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:15,509 I�had�never�shot anything�before, 805 00:33:15,510 --> 00:33:18,280 but�I've�seen�TV�shows and�shit�like�that. 806 00:33:18,281 --> 00:33:19,689 I'm�like,�"Dude, what�are�you�doing"? 807 00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:21,319 He's�like,�"I'm�shooting an�80."�He�goes, 808 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,389 "It's�really�good." I'm�like, 809 00:33:22,390 --> 00:33:24,389 "Well,�damn, I�want�to�try.�I'm�in"! 810 00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:26,230 You�know, 'cause�I'm�a�druggie. 811 00:33:26,231 --> 00:33:28,159 So,�I�go�to�shoot�a whole�80,�he�goes, 812 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,060 "Dude,�do�not shoot�a�whole�80. 813 00:33:30,061 --> 00:33:32,229 You�do�not�want." I'm�like,�"I�snort�five�of 814 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:34,169 these�things�a�day, I�can�shoot�an�80." 815 00:33:34,170 --> 00:33:36,069 So�he�shoots�up�the same�amount�too, 816 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:40,070 and�we�get�back�in�the SUV�and�we�start�driving. 817 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:43,340 Sandman�starts�going like-�[Snorting] 818 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:44,750 He�can't�breathe�right. 819 00:33:44,751 --> 00:33:47,179 I�said,�"Raven,�Sandman�is having�trouble�breathing." 820 00:33:47,180 --> 00:33:48,849 He�said,�"Oh, he'll�be�alright." 821 00:33:48,850 --> 00:33:50,720 About�5�minutes later�I�said, 822 00:33:50,721 --> 00:33:53,089 "Hey,�daddy,�his�lips are�turning�blue." 823 00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:54,470 And�we're�like,�"What"? 824 00:33:54,471 --> 00:33:56,319 He's�like,�"His�lips�are turning�blue." 825 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,720 We're�like,�"Holy�shit, he's�OD'ing." 826 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,260 Now�we�got�a�problem. He's�dying. 827 00:34:04,481 --> 00:34:10,699 The�Sandman's�reckless�nature and�persistent�drug�use 828 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:13,840 have�landed�him�on�the�brink�of death. 829 00:34:13,841 --> 00:34:15,869 Thank�God�they�stopped, they�called�the�ambulance, 830 00:34:15,870 --> 00:34:19,010 the�ambulance�came,�the adrenaline�shot,�needle. 831 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,380 ? 832 00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:23,410 They�take�me�to the�hospital. 833 00:34:23,411 --> 00:34:25,449 I�wake�up�at�like four�in�the�morning. 834 00:34:25,450 --> 00:34:27,419 I�ripped�the�shit out�of�my�arms, 835 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:28,789 grabbed�my�shit�out of�the�hospital, 836 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:31,019 fucking�went�into�the�hotel, fell�asleep,�got�up, 837 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:32,759 and�went�to�the�show�the next�day�and�shot 838 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,960 an�OxyContin�80 and�loved�it. 839 00:34:34,961 --> 00:34:36,359 I�liked�it�so�much I'm�like,�"Dude, 840 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,759 I�can't�do�this�again. I'll�end�up�fucking�really, 841 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,630 actually�being�dead." Never�did�it�again. 842 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:47,310 I�found�bills�in�my�mail that�show�that�he�was 843 00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:50,440 resuscitated�from shooting�up�and�flatlining, 844 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720 and�he�never�told�me. 845 00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:54,080 I�wasn't�telling�her. 846 00:34:54,081 --> 00:34:56,579 Oh�yeah,�hon,�I�OD'd�fucking on�the�road�last�week. 847 00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:58,080 Almost�died. 848 00:34:58,081 --> 00:34:59,789 Yeah,�I'm�not�coming home�with�that�story 849 00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:02,060 fucking�Sunday afternoon. 850 00:35:02,090 --> 00:35:05,060 As�The�Sandman�struggles�with his�personal�issues 851 00:35:05,090 --> 00:35:08,460 ECW�experiences�a�decline�as their�top�stars 852 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:11,290 leave�for�bigger,�more mainstream�promotions. 853 00:35:11,330 --> 00:35:13,100 Towards�the�end�of�ECW, 854 00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:17,500 WCW�and�WWF�was picking�our�talent. 855 00:35:17,570 --> 00:35:19,970 They�would�leave�us and�go�to�WWF�so, 856 00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:23,680 Sandman�got�one�of�those offers�to�go�to�WCW�and 857 00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:27,240 make�five�times�the�money he�was�making�in�ECW, 858 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,480 so�why�wouldn't�he? 859 00:35:28,510 --> 00:35:30,620 And�all�the�guys up�there�were�huge. 860 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,190 Big�monster�guys. 861 00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:34,250 And�Sandman�was a�big,�tall�kid, 862 00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:36,430 but�not�big�muscle�bound. 863 00:35:36,431 --> 00:35:37,819 But�he�wanted�to�get�big. 864 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,289 But�he,�remember, he�didn't�work�out, 865 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:40,659 he�didn't�go�to the�gym�at�all. 866 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:43,530 So,�he�ordered�all kind�of�steroids. 867 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,040 We�called�it�the�gas. 868 00:35:45,041 --> 00:35:47,329 So�that's�the�six�months that�I�was�doing�the�juice, 869 00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:49,530 the�steroids�and the�growth�hormone. 870 00:35:49,531 --> 00:35:51,339 And�the�only�reason�why I�did�it�was�because 871 00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:52,880 I�was�going�to�WCW, 872 00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:55,640 and�that�was�the�land of�the�freaking�giants. 873 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:59,370 What�was�funny�about�when Sandman�went�to�WCW�was 874 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,380 he�got�jacked,�like�for the�first�time�ever. 875 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:04,850 [Cheering] 876 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,650 Course�we�had�access�to�the best�gas�on�the�planet 877 00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:10,490 from�Germany�or�whatever, 878 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,890 the�latest�shit�that makes�you�big. 879 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,060 So�he�was�on�it,�and�it affects�your�thought, 880 00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:17,970 it�makes�you mean�sometimes. 881 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000 It�has�a,�an�effect on�your�personality. 882 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:23,170 It�turned�my�dad�into 883 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,470 an�abusive, harmful�individual. 884 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:30,310 And�my�mom�turned�into this�almost�subservient, 885 00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:33,540 meek�woman�for a�little�while. 886 00:36:33,580 --> 00:36:35,690 Breaking�point�for me�was�the�abuse. 887 00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:39,820 Mm-hm,�yeah. 888 00:36:39,850 --> 00:36:41,720 My�hair�pulled. 889 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:43,920 I�had�a�pillow�put over�my�face. 890 00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:48,560 Not�just�physically�abused, but�mental�abuse. 891 00:36:48,590 --> 00:36:52,390 "You're�stupid,"�you�know, a�bunch�of�that. 892 00:36:52,391 --> 00:36:54,099 And�sometimes�the mental�stuff�was 893 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:57,570 harder�than�the�physical. 894 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,770 We�were�at�his�house, and�we're�at�the�table 895 00:37:00,771 --> 00:37:02,669 and�he's�being�a dick�to�his�wife, 896 00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,770 and�he�poured�a beer�on�her�head. 897 00:37:05,771 --> 00:37:08,109 He�wouldn't�have�done�it unless�he�was�off 898 00:37:08,110 --> 00:37:10,380 and�gassed�up and�drunk. 899 00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:12,790 So,�Sandman�just got�a�shipment, 900 00:37:12,850 --> 00:37:17,390 $10,000�shipment of�steroids�and 901 00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:19,690 Peaches�went�in the�refrigerator, 902 00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:23,200 and�she�fucking�dumped�it all�out�in�the�front�lawn, 903 00:37:23,201 --> 00:37:24,929 and�he�says,�"Do�you realize�you�just 904 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:27,130 dumped�$10,000 worth�the�shit?" 905 00:37:27,131 --> 00:37:28,729 And�she�said,�"I�don't give�a�fuck,�Sandman. 906 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:31,130 You're�acting�like�a dick�on�this�shit." 907 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,470 I�don't�care. 908 00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:34,740 You�know,�'cause�it made�him�angry. 909 00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:39,140 Like�he�was�just�angry. 910 00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:41,020 It�hurt.�As�much�as I�loved�him 911 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:42,950 I�hated�his�guts, you�know? 912 00:37:42,951 --> 00:37:44,419 Because�it�was�difficult. 913 00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:45,879 It�was�extremely difficult�to�see�my�mom 914 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,089 go�through�what�she�had�to go�through�and�like, 915 00:37:48,090 --> 00:37:49,959 you�love�us�so�much�how could�you�treat�somebody 916 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,330 you�love�like�that? 917 00:37:51,331 --> 00:37:53,089 He's�your�parent,�and you�know�it's�not�right, 918 00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:54,990 but�you�don't know�how�to�help. 919 00:37:54,991 --> 00:37:56,929 You�know,�you�don't know�what�to�do. 920 00:37:56,930 --> 00:38:00,230 It�got�harder�and�harder�to, you�know,�trust�him�and, 921 00:38:00,231 --> 00:38:01,899 you�know,�want�to be�around�him. 922 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,270 I�put�fucking Lori�through�hell. 923 00:38:04,271 --> 00:38:06,509 Now�I�understand, like�her�perspective, 924 00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:08,439 you�know�what�I�mean? And�it�was�all�me. 925 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640 If�I�could�have my�shit�together, 926 00:38:10,641 --> 00:38:12,809 then�maybe�me�and�her would�still�be�together. 927 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:14,410 Who�knows. 928 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:19,520 All�I�can�say�is�I stayed�in�too�long, 929 00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:24,750 and�there's�always help�to... 930 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:28,190 guide�you�to�where you�need�to�be. 931 00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:31,830 My�mom... took�her�a�while,�but... 932 00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:35,030 she�made�a�decision. 933 00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:38,270 And�she�decided�that�this�is not�how�she�wants�to 934 00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,640 live�her�life�anymore, she's�got�three�kids. 935 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:44,810 It�was�all�my�fault, and�I�know�it. 936 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680 Dude,�she�was like�an�angel. 937 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:48,780 I�was�like�the�devil reincarnated 938 00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:51,810 for�a�little�while. Maybe�for�a�long�while. 939 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,630 In�2001,�ECW�closes�its�doos and�two�years�later 940 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:07,230 its�assets�are�sold�to�Vince McMahon's�WWE. 941 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:10,870 Giving�The�Sandman�one�last�shot in�the�spotlight 942 00:39:10,871 --> 00:39:12,299 as�the�brand�is�re-launched. 943 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,540 What's�that�smell? 944 00:39:14,570 --> 00:39:17,410 Sandman's�character�was kind�of�watered�down, 945 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080 you�know,�no�cigarette smoking,�no�beer. 946 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:21,990 Drinking�on�the�job? 947 00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:24,380 What�the�hell�is�this? 948 00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:26,920 Society�had�changed, and�so�he�wasn't 949 00:39:26,921 --> 00:39:28,719 used�as�well�as he�could've�been. 950 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,490 The�zombie! 951 00:39:30,491 --> 00:39:31,759 That's�not�the ECW�that�I�know, 952 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,859 that's�not�the�ECW that�the�fans�know. 953 00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:36,700 A�lot�of�the�original ECW�fans 954 00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:41,400 want�to�forget about�that�time. 955 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:43,870 Sandman's�time�in the�WWE�is�brief, 956 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,240 and�un-remarkable. 957 00:39:46,241 --> 00:39:48,209 And�though�his�wrestling�career is�largely�over, 958 00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:50,780 his�trouble�with�addiction continue. 959 00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:52,610 I�got�a�phone�call. 960 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,420 "Dad�just�got�arrested, he's�going�to�jail." 961 00:39:55,450 --> 00:39:58,920 Like�I�was�at�work. I'm�like,�"For�what?" 962 00:39:58,950 --> 00:40:01,290 So,�me�and�my�brother packed�our�shit, 963 00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:02,850 drove�up�to�New�York. 964 00:40:02,890 --> 00:40:05,390 How�am�I�going�to find�a�freakin�lawyer? 965 00:40:05,391 --> 00:40:06,959 I�don't�even know�what�he�did. 966 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,260 Like,�I'm�in Yonkers,�New�York. 967 00:40:09,261 --> 00:40:11,299 I'd�watched�him�wrestle for�how�many�years? 968 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:12,559 He�walked�into�this courtroom�looking�like 969 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,429 he�just�got�put�through�a washing�machine. 970 00:40:14,430 --> 00:40:16,299 He,�like,�physically looked�hurt. 971 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,640 And�I�was�just�like, "What�happened?" 972 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,040 30�Long�Island�iced�teas, that's�what�happened. 973 00:40:22,041 --> 00:40:24,379 [Slurring]�Alright, everybody�here's�thinking, 974 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,920 "You�know�what? This�guy's�drunk." 975 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:29,590 You're�right! 976 00:40:29,591 --> 00:40:31,279 Got�in�a�fight with�the�owner. 977 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,549 So,�he�threw�a�bottle�at�me, hit�me�in�the�head. 978 00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:35,620 I�chased�him into�the�kitchen, 979 00:40:35,621 --> 00:40:37,619 broke�a�bunch�of shit�in�the�kitchen, 980 00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:41,160 then�the�SWAT�team came�and�took�me�away. 981 00:40:41,161 --> 00:40:43,089 Basically�had�to�go�through the�court�system. 982 00:40:43,090 --> 00:40:45,330 They�finally�set�his�bail. 983 00:40:45,331 --> 00:40:47,469 So�I�remember�calling�this bank�and�I'm�like,�"Listen, 984 00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:51,110 I�need�you�to�authorize�a $10,000�from�ATMs." 985 00:40:51,111 --> 00:40:52,999 And�she's�like,�"Well, there's�only�gonna�be 986 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,840 like�a�$2000 limit�per�each�ATM�and 987 00:40:55,841 --> 00:40:57,279 that's�just the�ATM�itself." 988 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,279 Like�you're�only�allowed to�take�so�much. 989 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279 So�here�I�am�bouncing�around 'til�I�got�to�ten�grand. 990 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,530 So�I�would�be�on�the�phone with�them�at�an�ATM�'cause, 991 00:41:05,531 --> 00:41:07,419 you�know,�you�see�these kids�getting�money 992 00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:09,760 out�of�an�ATM, they're�gonna�rob�ya. 993 00:41:09,761 --> 00:41:11,689 And�finally�we're�able to�give�them�bail 994 00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:13,019 about�like, three,�four... 995 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:14,359 something�in the�morning. 996 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,800 I�remember�walking�into this,�like,�huge... 997 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:20,670 prison�and�like, giving�them�this�money 998 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,700 and�like, out�comes�my�dad. 999 00:41:22,701 --> 00:41:24,969 And�I�was�like,�"Get�the fuck�in�the�fucking�car 1000 00:41:24,970 --> 00:41:27,339 we're�fucking�going�home. I�can't�fucking�believe." 1001 00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:31,040 And�like,�of�course, of�course. 1002 00:41:31,110 --> 00:41:33,710 Like,�this�is�my�life. 1003 00:41:33,711 --> 00:41:35,479 No�kid�should have�to�do�that. 1004 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,350 It�was�your�life. You�lived�it. 1005 00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:42,020 You�just,�you�don't�know�how horrible�it�is�until�later. 1006 00:41:42,050 --> 00:41:45,320 Or�how�horrible�you might�have�made�it�for 1007 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,700 other�people�that�you, that�you�love. 1008 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,500 ? 1009 00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:54,300 Deep�down,�he�realizes he's�done�a�lot�of�bad, 1010 00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:58,200 and�that�maybe�this is�his�redemption? 1011 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:03,010 I�would�like�for�him to�accept�what�was, 1012 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,580 accept�what�he�has, and�move�on�from�here. 1013 00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:11,390 But�I�think�it's�gonna�be kind�of�cleansing�for 1014 00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:14,720 all�of�us, and�hopefully�himself, 1015 00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:19,690 to�just...�let�it�go. 1016 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,390 I�don't�know.�I'm�an idiot,�I,�dude,�I... 1017 00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:25,570 I've�been�so�self -sabotaging�in�my�life. 1018 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,000 It's�like,�there's�been�a�lot of�just,�personal�destruction. 1019 00:42:30,001 --> 00:42:32,569 And�now�it�hits�me�a�little bit�different�because 1020 00:42:32,570 --> 00:42:36,240 I'm�older�and�you�think about�that�stupid�shit�that 1021 00:42:36,241 --> 00:42:38,439 you've�done�that�kind�of changes�everything, 1022 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,780 you�know�what�I�mean? 1023 00:42:39,781 --> 00:42:42,279 So,�there's�a�different perspective�in�my�head�now. 1024 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,679 I�want�him�to�realize, no�matter�how�bad 1025 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,020 things�were�at�times, 1026 00:42:47,021 --> 00:42:49,959 including�family�life, that�where�he�came�from�and 1027 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,600 what�he�did�was�a�lot of�hard�work�and, 1028 00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:54,120 you�know, accomplishment. 1029 00:42:54,121 --> 00:42:57,029 Was�a�perfect�by�any stretch�of�the�imagination? 1030 00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:58,859 No.�He's�made�a lot�of�mistakes, 1031 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:00,269 and�he'll�be�the�one to�tell�you. 1032 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:03,310 But,�he's�self-made and�it's�okay�to- 1033 00:43:03,311 --> 00:43:04,969 [Chuckling] it's�okay�to�say�that. 1034 00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:06,540 He�lived�his�life's�dream. 1035 00:43:06,541 --> 00:43:08,769 There�always�has�to�be an�end�for�everyone. 1036 00:43:08,770 --> 00:43:11,279 There�always�has�to�be�an end�to�what�you�can�do. 1037 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,620 And�you've�done�it. 1038 00:43:12,621 --> 00:43:14,779 A�lot�of�people�can't�say that�they've�done�that. 1039 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:17,980 He�can�still�be�The�Sandman, he�still�is�The�Sandman. 1040 00:43:17,981 --> 00:43:19,579 There�will�never be�another�Sandman. 1041 00:43:19,580 --> 00:43:22,119 I,�I�really�just�wish�that he�would�understand�that 1042 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,620 what�happened�happened, 1043 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:27,430 and�he�can move�forward. 1044 00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:30,660 Sandman�is�an�icon. 1045 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:32,430 Poster�boy�for�hardcore. 1046 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:35,930 People�loved�The�Sandman. 1047 00:43:35,970 --> 00:43:38,310 I�am�the�hardcore�icon. 1048 00:43:38,311 --> 00:43:41,309 I�mean,�who�else�is�gonna drink�beer,�smoke�cigarettes, 1049 00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:44,610 swing�a�cane,�wear sweatpants�to�the�ring, 1050 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,680 t-shirt, and�get�over? 1051 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,450 The�first�person�to do�a�lot�of�shit. 1052 00:43:52,451 --> 00:43:54,789 You�know,�the�first�person to�bleed�before�he�got�into 1053 00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:57,519 the�ring,�the�first�person to�come�out�of�the�crowd. 1054 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,359 You�know�what�I�mean? Smoke�a�cigarette. 1055 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,830 I�am�the�king�of�extreme! 1056 00:44:02,860 --> 00:44:04,660 [Cheering] 1057 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:06,800 Smoking,�drinking,�yeah! 1058 00:44:06,830 --> 00:44:09,200 Cool. 1059 00:44:09,201 --> 00:44:11,659 No�wonder�why�I'm�fucking fucked�up�in�the�head. 1060 00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:16,210 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 92967

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