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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,395 --> 00:00:34,731 Ben Rosen: We never, ever, had any idea 2 00:00:34,733 --> 00:00:36,766 that this would be as explosively 3 00:00:36,768 --> 00:00:38,801 Successful as it was. 4 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,708 Mike Swavely: Fastest to Fortune 500 5 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:51,044 and fastest to over a billion? 6 00:00:51,046 --> 00:00:54,647 I would've just said you're blowing smoke. 7 00:01:01,053 --> 00:01:05,623 Announcer: Compaq is the story of how David takes on goliath, 8 00:01:05,625 --> 00:01:07,725 and it's not easy, but when you do it, 9 00:01:07,727 --> 00:01:11,061 it fundamentally changes society. 10 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:19,101 Rod Canion: We hope you, too, come to believe that the Compaq 11 00:01:19,103 --> 00:01:21,203 is an important landmark in the short history 12 00:01:21,205 --> 00:01:23,071 of the personal computer field. 13 00:01:23,073 --> 00:01:23,738 Thank you. 14 00:01:25,675 --> 00:01:27,574 John Markoff: Compaq was basically 15 00:01:27,576 --> 00:01:30,143 Prying open a lock box. 16 00:01:30,145 --> 00:01:31,711 Ben Rosen: It's analogous to somebody 17 00:01:31,713 --> 00:01:35,247 saying we're going to put Google out of business. 18 00:01:35,249 --> 00:01:37,616 Chris Cantwell: Are you a Mac or a PC? 19 00:01:37,618 --> 00:01:41,519 The reason they don't say Mac or an IBM is because of Compaq. 20 00:01:41,521 --> 00:01:44,221 Alec Berg: You cannot Get to the iPhone without 21 00:01:44,223 --> 00:01:45,255 The original Compaq portable. 22 00:01:59,134 --> 00:02:05,138 Man, if you're looking for action, 23 00:02:05,140 --> 00:02:07,874 man, Houston's the town. 24 00:02:07,876 --> 00:02:10,209 Here's the action town. 25 00:02:10,211 --> 00:02:11,443 Rod Canion: One of the first things 26 00:02:11,445 --> 00:02:13,678 I bought when I got a real job, which 27 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:20,483 was a sacker at a grocery store making $0.45 an hour, 28 00:02:20,485 --> 00:02:27,322 was a '53 ford for $350. 29 00:02:27,324 --> 00:02:28,723 We'd take our cars way out to North 30 00:02:28,725 --> 00:02:30,291 Houston, where it was deserted roads 31 00:02:30,293 --> 00:02:33,460 and maybe run a few races. 32 00:02:33,462 --> 00:02:36,463 And I ain't jiving. 33 00:02:36,465 --> 00:02:38,431 Rod Canion: Street drag racing-- like you see in the movies 34 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:40,800 where you're going around dead man's curve. 35 00:02:40,802 --> 00:02:43,636 Man, Houston's the town. 36 00:02:43,638 --> 00:02:46,338 Rod Canion: There weren't any video games. 37 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:49,441 That car was my computer. 38 00:02:49,443 --> 00:02:51,242 I loved working on it. 39 00:02:51,244 --> 00:02:54,478 I'd change spark plugs, and set the points on the distributor, 40 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,149 and adjust the timing, and that natural inclination 41 00:02:59,151 --> 00:03:00,717 to try to understand how it worked 42 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,721 and to not be afraid of taking it apart and working on it. 43 00:03:05,723 --> 00:03:09,424 I got a lot of enjoyment out of it. 44 00:03:09,426 --> 00:03:12,260 Announcer: And Spell, a revolutionary learning 45 00:03:12,262 --> 00:03:13,828 aid from Texas Instruments. 46 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:15,262 It almost thinks. 47 00:03:15,264 --> 00:03:16,796 Rod Canion: We were very lucky to have 48 00:03:16,798 --> 00:03:19,832 a high tech company, like Texas Instruments, in Houston. 49 00:03:19,834 --> 00:03:21,733 Announcer: The learning can go on with the Texas 50 00:03:21,735 --> 00:03:23,468 Instruments TI-30, 51 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:25,536 specially designed for high school students 52 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:28,872 to help them find the wonder of numbers never ends. 53 00:03:28,874 --> 00:03:30,473 Rod Canion: That's where I wanted to go, 54 00:03:30,475 --> 00:03:33,209 And I got the job and that really got me started 55 00:03:33,211 --> 00:03:34,276 in high tech electronics. 56 00:03:38,281 --> 00:03:41,816 The bosses asked me to take a small team of people 57 00:03:41,818 --> 00:03:43,617 to develop an intelligent terminal. 58 00:03:43,619 --> 00:03:45,218 It was a predecessor to the PC. 59 00:03:47,788 --> 00:03:49,355 Bill Murto: He called me up and said, Bill, 60 00:03:49,357 --> 00:03:51,623 would you come work for me and be my business 61 00:03:51,625 --> 00:03:52,457 development manager? 62 00:03:57,329 --> 00:03:59,930 Jim Harris: I came out of Texas A&M, 63 00:03:59,932 --> 00:04:01,398 electrical engineering degree. 64 00:04:05,736 --> 00:04:07,203 Rod Canion: Bill was the marketing guy, 65 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:08,804 and he was a good one. 66 00:04:08,806 --> 00:04:12,507 Jim was the engineering guy, and even though I was an engineer 67 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:13,841 by background, I was really, sort of, 68 00:04:13,843 --> 00:04:16,577 the business guy-- the general manager type. 69 00:04:16,579 --> 00:04:20,914 Jim Harris: While TI was a great place, as the fun became less 70 00:04:20,916 --> 00:04:25,618 and less over time, Rod and Bill and I would quip to each other, 71 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:27,620 like, let's go do something. 72 00:04:27,622 --> 00:04:31,724 We were seeing what was going on in Silicon Valley. 73 00:04:37,496 --> 00:04:38,863 Roger McNamee: You wandered around. 74 00:04:38,865 --> 00:04:40,865 There was still a lot of fruit trees. 75 00:04:40,867 --> 00:04:42,499 It was a lot of empty space. 76 00:04:42,501 --> 00:04:45,268 There was no Silicon Valley as we think of it today. 77 00:04:49,706 --> 00:04:51,406 Announcer: It started out as purely 78 00:04:51,408 --> 00:04:54,342 hobbyist, not commercial. 79 00:04:54,344 --> 00:04:56,577 You had to solder your own connections 80 00:04:56,579 --> 00:04:58,879 and build your kits. 81 00:04:58,881 --> 00:05:01,648 Chris Garcia: You had the microprocessor become available 82 00:05:01,650 --> 00:05:03,516 in the very early 1970s, and you 83 00:05:03,518 --> 00:05:08,720 saw a lot of hobbyists coming up with new ways to use it. 84 00:05:08,722 --> 00:05:10,254 Jim Harris: When we were out there 85 00:05:10,256 --> 00:05:13,890 it was just exhilarating to be around these guys 86 00:05:13,892 --> 00:05:17,727 and to see their enthusiasm. 87 00:05:17,729 --> 00:05:19,562 Bill Murto: The VP of engineering of a small company 88 00:05:19,564 --> 00:05:22,565 would pull up in his Ferrari, which at TI, you're 89 00:05:22,567 --> 00:05:23,799 never going to have a Ferrari. 90 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:24,933 Maybe you can rent one once. 91 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:30,404 What are we doing? 92 00:05:30,406 --> 00:05:32,706 It was like, oh my goodness, this 93 00:05:32,708 --> 00:05:34,474 is what I would like to do. 94 00:05:34,476 --> 00:05:38,678 Seeded this sense of we ought to go do something together. 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,579 Let's just go do something. 96 00:05:40,581 --> 00:05:41,980 Wasn't about getting rich. 97 00:05:41,982 --> 00:05:44,916 It wasn't about building a computer. 98 00:05:44,918 --> 00:05:48,552 It was really about starting a company that 99 00:05:48,554 --> 00:05:49,719 would be a good place to work. 100 00:05:51,955 --> 00:05:53,555 Jim Harris: Bill said, why don't we come over 101 00:05:53,557 --> 00:05:56,658 to my house Thursday at 7:30. 102 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:59,761 And we said, let's do that. 103 00:05:59,763 --> 00:06:01,829 We can at least have a beer. 104 00:06:01,831 --> 00:06:04,798 We bought a thing called entrepreneur's manual. 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,699 Because surely that'll tell us how to put 106 00:06:06,701 --> 00:06:08,467 together a successful company. 107 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:10,502 We sit at a table, we each have our piece of paper 108 00:06:10,504 --> 00:06:12,403 with us and a pen, and we're going to start 109 00:06:12,405 --> 00:06:13,737 taking notes about what we say. 110 00:06:13,739 --> 00:06:17,874 Jim Harris: It's like, okay, what do we do now? 111 00:06:17,876 --> 00:06:20,877 Rod Canion: Let's talk about all the possibilities. 112 00:06:20,879 --> 00:06:22,612 One of the things we did, sort of, 113 00:06:22,614 --> 00:06:24,981 traditionally, was we would go out and eat Mexican food. 114 00:06:24,983 --> 00:06:26,749 Announcer: Pepe's tacos restaurants. 115 00:06:26,751 --> 00:06:28,584 treat yourself to the wonderful world 116 00:06:28,586 --> 00:06:31,653 of Mexican food and authentic Mexican atmosphere. 117 00:06:31,655 --> 00:06:33,488 Jim Harris: Bill and I always wanted 118 00:06:33,490 --> 00:06:37,091 to do a Mexican food restaurant, so we brought that up. 119 00:06:37,093 --> 00:06:39,593 Bill Murto: Maybe a Mexican food restaurant. 120 00:06:39,595 --> 00:06:41,328 Jim Harris: We didn't really want to do 121 00:06:41,330 --> 00:06:42,729 a Mexican food restaurant. 122 00:06:42,731 --> 00:06:44,897 Bill Murto: What a stupid idea that would've been. 123 00:06:44,899 --> 00:06:46,365 Announcer: Pepe's tacos restaurants 124 00:06:46,367 --> 00:06:47,999 are the family fun place to be. 125 00:06:48,001 --> 00:06:52,336 Rod Canion: We finally decided, as you would hope, I guess, 126 00:06:52,338 --> 00:06:56,039 that we ought to stick with what we knew. 127 00:06:56,041 --> 00:07:00,009 And we toasted the beginning of starting a company. 128 00:07:00,011 --> 00:07:01,677 Announcer: You're probably on your way 129 00:07:01,679 --> 00:07:03,812 up to the top of the ladder. 130 00:07:03,814 --> 00:07:06,014 Texas Instruments, a terrific company. 131 00:07:06,016 --> 00:07:07,982 And you did a silly thing like quit to try to start 132 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:09,383 your own computer company. 133 00:07:09,385 --> 00:07:12,519 People must have thought you were nuts. 134 00:07:12,521 --> 00:07:14,587 Jim Harris: We went to the credit unions 135 00:07:14,589 --> 00:07:15,921 and took out loans. 136 00:07:15,923 --> 00:07:18,089 Bill Murto: I knew that I could last six months 137 00:07:18,091 --> 00:07:20,124 after I sold my wife's car. 138 00:07:20,126 --> 00:07:23,660 Rod Canion: I had three small children, and a wife, 139 00:07:23,662 --> 00:07:25,595 and mortgage. 140 00:07:25,597 --> 00:07:28,631 Jim Harris: I'd actually, recently married Rhonda. 141 00:07:28,633 --> 00:07:31,533 I was meeting a lot of her extended family, 142 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:33,568 and it would be like, what do you do? 143 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:36,604 Well, I've actually left my job, and I want to start a company. 144 00:07:36,606 --> 00:07:37,805 Oh, that's great. 145 00:07:37,807 --> 00:07:39,573 What is that going to be? 146 00:07:39,575 --> 00:07:42,042 Well, we hadn't decided yet. 147 00:07:42,044 --> 00:07:43,643 And you quit your job? 148 00:07:43,645 --> 00:07:45,077 Yes. 149 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,479 And you could tell they were thinking, poor Rhonda. 150 00:07:54,653 --> 00:07:56,086 Bill Aulet: The success of IBM had 151 00:07:56,088 --> 00:07:59,989 come about through mainframe computers. 152 00:07:59,991 --> 00:08:02,858 Ben Rosen: IBM was making big computers 153 00:08:02,860 --> 00:08:06,561 to sell to big companies. 154 00:08:06,563 --> 00:08:09,597 Howard Anderson: Computers were treated as a priesthood, 155 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:11,699 and only the priests could touch them, 156 00:08:11,701 --> 00:08:14,868 and everyone else looked through a glass wall. 157 00:08:14,870 --> 00:08:16,936 Eventually, the users wanted to get 158 00:08:16,938 --> 00:08:20,773 hold of that computing power. 159 00:08:20,775 --> 00:08:22,474 Chris Garcia: IBM wanted to maintain control 160 00:08:22,476 --> 00:08:24,075 over the computing industry as they 161 00:08:24,077 --> 00:08:26,177 had during the 60s and 70s. 162 00:08:26,179 --> 00:08:27,811 Let's build something for the masses 163 00:08:27,813 --> 00:08:29,612 that they can buy and become a commodity. 164 00:08:29,614 --> 00:08:32,715 Roger McNamee: Everyone else was struggling 165 00:08:32,717 --> 00:08:36,719 to get a permanent foothold. 166 00:08:36,721 --> 00:08:42,457 First PCs, Apple II, Commodore, Radio Shack-- 167 00:08:42,459 --> 00:08:45,493 It was still a tiny market. 168 00:08:45,495 --> 00:08:52,566 The game changer was when IBM entered the market in '81. 169 00:08:52,568 --> 00:08:54,935 Announcer: IBM, International Business Machines, 170 00:08:54,937 --> 00:08:58,204 has entered the small computer market for the first time. 171 00:08:58,206 --> 00:09:00,439 It's expected to have a major impact 172 00:09:00,441 --> 00:09:02,741 on what is now the fastest growing sector 173 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:03,975 of the computer business. 174 00:09:03,977 --> 00:09:05,443 Chris Cantwell: IBM said, we're going 175 00:09:05,445 --> 00:09:08,813 to go from selling million dollar computers 176 00:09:08,815 --> 00:09:11,248 to a few thousand people, to $1000 computers 177 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:12,549 to a few million people. 178 00:09:12,551 --> 00:09:13,917 Announcer: IBM's personal computer 179 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,619 is designed for office, school, or home use. 180 00:09:16,621 --> 00:09:19,989 It's aimed at exactly the same market as its competitors. 181 00:09:19,991 --> 00:09:22,257 It's expected to be sold very aggressively. 182 00:09:22,259 --> 00:09:23,791 Rod Canion: And the race was on. 183 00:09:23,793 --> 00:09:26,994 This was going to cause that market to explode. 184 00:09:26,996 --> 00:09:28,729 Tom Brokaw: Sales of personal computers 185 00:09:28,731 --> 00:09:31,064 are so hot this Christmas, Santa Claus may have to replace 186 00:09:31,066 --> 00:09:32,965 his reindeer with microchips. 187 00:09:32,967 --> 00:09:35,567 Announcer: 850,000 people bought home computers 188 00:09:35,569 --> 00:09:37,569 in the United States last year. 189 00:09:37,571 --> 00:09:40,738 The industry expects, this year, more than three million will. 190 00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:42,239 Announcer: We're no longer on the verge 191 00:09:42,241 --> 00:09:44,107 of the personal computer revolution, 192 00:09:44,109 --> 00:09:46,609 We're right in the midst of it with more and more people 193 00:09:46,611 --> 00:09:49,278 jumping aboard every day. 194 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,913 Jim Harris: Osborne was being very successful 195 00:09:51,915 --> 00:09:54,649 with an extraordinarily ugly portable. 196 00:09:54,651 --> 00:09:57,151 And Rod had purchased the IBM PC, 197 00:09:57,153 --> 00:10:01,121 so he could write business plans on it, 198 00:10:01,123 --> 00:10:04,657 and it became obvious to him that that PC, 199 00:10:04,659 --> 00:10:07,026 if it was portable, that would be a good product. 200 00:10:07,028 --> 00:10:08,927 What popped in my head was, well, 201 00:10:08,929 --> 00:10:13,097 if we could take this idea for a portable, 202 00:10:13,099 --> 00:10:14,631 and we could make it run the software that 203 00:10:14,633 --> 00:10:18,701 was written for the IBM PC, ooh, that's when 204 00:10:18,703 --> 00:10:19,868 the chill went down my spine. 205 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:23,104 It's like, oh, man, would that sell. 206 00:10:26,808 --> 00:10:28,108 Welcome to the computer chronicles. 207 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:30,710 I'm Stewart Cheifet and this is Gary Kildall. 208 00:10:30,712 --> 00:10:34,046 And, Gary, our subject today is IBM and the dominant role 209 00:10:34,048 --> 00:10:35,914 They play in the computer world in general 210 00:10:35,916 --> 00:10:37,315 and the PC world in particular. 211 00:10:37,317 --> 00:10:39,083 Matter of fact, they've taken over the phrase PC. 212 00:10:39,085 --> 00:10:40,617 It doesn't mean personal computer anymore. 213 00:10:40,619 --> 00:10:42,685 It means an IBM personal computer. 214 00:10:42,687 --> 00:10:45,888 IBM has always had this mentality that it 215 00:10:45,890 --> 00:10:47,389 is the king of the world. 216 00:10:47,391 --> 00:10:49,958 What do you think would be the biggest threat to IBM's 217 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,359 position in this situation? 218 00:10:51,361 --> 00:10:53,994 Well, I don't think that anything is really 219 00:10:53,996 --> 00:10:56,062 a threat to the IBM position, and I 220 00:10:56,064 --> 00:10:59,732 don't anticipate that they will begin to decline. 221 00:10:59,734 --> 00:11:00,833 IBM didn't care. 222 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:07,004 If you weren't Xerox, if you didn't have that massive, 223 00:11:07,006 --> 00:11:09,773 New York, type presence that loomed over the entire country, 224 00:11:09,775 --> 00:11:10,373 you didn't matter. 225 00:11:14,311 --> 00:11:16,345 Rod Canion: We weren't really good at writing business plans, 226 00:11:16,347 --> 00:11:18,013 but we knew that the way a product looked 227 00:11:18,015 --> 00:11:19,981 was important to people. 228 00:11:19,983 --> 00:11:22,116 Jim Harris: Ted Papa john was an industrial designer, 229 00:11:22,118 --> 00:11:25,285 and we got him, and we drove over to the House of Pies 230 00:11:25,287 --> 00:11:26,419 for two things. 231 00:11:26,421 --> 00:11:28,287 One, a piece of pie, and the other 232 00:11:28,289 --> 00:11:32,090 was to convey to Ted our ideals for what 233 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:34,826 the unit may look like. 234 00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:37,395 Rod Canion: We walked in, looked around, picked a booth 235 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:39,830 that was kind of by itself. 236 00:11:39,832 --> 00:11:42,265 Unfortunately, we hadn't thought to bring anything with us, 237 00:11:42,267 --> 00:11:45,334 so we turned over the placemat and borrowed a pencil 238 00:11:45,336 --> 00:11:50,204 from the waitress, and proceeded to describe to Ted Papa John 239 00:11:50,206 --> 00:11:53,073 how we wanted it to look. 240 00:11:53,075 --> 00:11:55,442 Jim Harris: What he drew was something that 241 00:11:55,444 --> 00:11:57,143 was very professional looking. 242 00:11:57,145 --> 00:11:59,712 We knew where the monitor would go, what the size was, 243 00:11:59,714 --> 00:12:02,815 how the keyboard would go in. 244 00:12:02,817 --> 00:12:05,083 Rod Canion: Laid out somewhat like an Osborne 245 00:12:05,085 --> 00:12:08,086 but with much smoother lines, plastic moulded case, 246 00:12:08,088 --> 00:12:12,056 keyboard just like an IBM PC. 247 00:12:12,058 --> 00:12:15,959 As I saw that sketch coming together on the paper, 248 00:12:15,961 --> 00:12:18,895 there was an excitement. 249 00:12:18,897 --> 00:12:20,329 We're going to make this work. 250 00:12:20,331 --> 00:12:24,199 I didn't know how yet, but it was headed that way. 251 00:12:24,201 --> 00:12:25,733 This is something we can get funding for. 252 00:12:33,475 --> 00:12:36,310 Alec Berg: Post Mark Zuckerberg inventing Facebook 253 00:12:36,312 --> 00:12:38,712 in high school, there is this different path which 254 00:12:38,714 --> 00:12:42,882 os oh, if I study this stuff and I learn computers, 255 00:12:42,884 --> 00:12:45,150 I can move to Palo Alto when I graduate college, 256 00:12:45,152 --> 00:12:48,052 and there's just money raining from the sky. 257 00:12:48,054 --> 00:12:50,087 Announcer: รœber growth at Uber. 258 00:12:50,089 --> 00:12:52,122 Reuters has learned that the ride sharing service 259 00:12:52,124 --> 00:12:54,991 see its global bookings more than tripling this year 260 00:12:54,993 --> 00:12:56,993 to nearly $11 billion dollars. 261 00:12:56,995 --> 00:12:59,195 Announcer: A picture is worth a thousand words, 262 00:12:59,197 --> 00:13:02,198 and for Instagram, a billion dollars. 263 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,433 Announcer: Snapchat, the barely three-year-old company, 264 00:13:04,435 --> 00:13:08,970 raised almost half a billion dollars in investment funding. 265 00:13:08,972 --> 00:13:10,871 Roger McNamee: There's just so much venture capital. 266 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:13,373 Back then, there wasn't that much. 267 00:13:13,375 --> 00:13:15,174 Alec Berg: If you wanted to start a computer company, 268 00:13:15,176 --> 00:13:18,510 there was literally nobody. 269 00:13:18,512 --> 00:13:21,813 You had to go get a bank loan, you had to have collateral. 270 00:13:21,815 --> 00:13:23,281 Chris Cantwell: If you weren't walking in, 271 00:13:23,283 --> 00:13:25,983 in a suit-- a nice suit, and a tie, 272 00:13:25,985 --> 00:13:29,286 and you had this education, and you had this background, 273 00:13:29,288 --> 00:13:31,421 and this many decades of experience, 274 00:13:31,423 --> 00:13:34,424 nobody wanted to even listen to you. 275 00:13:34,426 --> 00:13:38,494 Ben Rosen: We received an introduction to meet 276 00:13:38,496 --> 00:13:40,195 Rod, Bill, and Jim in Houston. 277 00:13:43,132 --> 00:13:46,901 Their business plan had a sketch of the portable computer 278 00:13:46,903 --> 00:13:49,436 on the back of a placemat from the House of Pies. 279 00:13:49,438 --> 00:13:54,440 And they showed for first year sales of $30 million. 280 00:13:54,442 --> 00:13:57,109 Now, that was absurd. 281 00:13:57,111 --> 00:14:00,479 You're taking a chance on somebody from a big company 282 00:14:00,481 --> 00:14:04,216 starting a new company. 283 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:07,385 It's whether it's a gut feeling or something 284 00:14:07,387 --> 00:14:09,954 about the discussion you have with them 285 00:14:09,956 --> 00:14:12,489 that you feel is going to help differentiate 286 00:14:12,491 --> 00:14:16,426 them from other people. 287 00:14:16,428 --> 00:14:19,228 Roger McNamee: Rod obviously had some skills, 288 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:20,329 but he had clear weaknesses. 289 00:14:20,331 --> 00:14:21,897 He wasn't a public speaker. 290 00:14:21,899 --> 00:14:25,867 He didn't have the brash, over-the-top demeanour 291 00:14:25,869 --> 00:14:28,836 that we now associate with tech entrepreneurs. 292 00:14:28,838 --> 00:14:32,506 He was modest, he was extremely clean cut, 293 00:14:32,508 --> 00:14:36,977 he was thoughtful-- almost like a boy scout, right. 294 00:14:36,979 --> 00:14:40,380 Pretty much everybody who met him was drawn to him. 295 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:58,863 Karen Walker: We were basically in this class b office space, 296 00:14:58,865 --> 00:15:02,466 and it was right next to a field full of cows. 297 00:15:02,468 --> 00:15:04,034 Commentator: We had no furniture. 298 00:15:04,036 --> 00:15:06,069 Rod Canion: There was one phone line. 299 00:15:06,071 --> 00:15:07,537 Gary Stimac: I brought my card table and chairs. 300 00:15:07,539 --> 00:15:10,373 Rod Canion: So we put a very long cord on it. 301 00:15:10,375 --> 00:15:11,974 It didn't matter who did what. 302 00:15:11,976 --> 00:15:13,942 I don't even know who reported to who. 303 00:15:13,944 --> 00:15:19,046 I ain't jiving when I say Houston, 304 00:15:19,048 --> 00:15:20,480 here's the action town. 305 00:15:20,482 --> 00:15:22,348 Karen Walker: The people That I wanted to work with 306 00:15:22,350 --> 00:15:24,283 were the people that were coming to this company 307 00:15:24,285 --> 00:15:26,318 that was making a product, and I didn't know what it was. 308 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,953 Bill Murto: I couldn't tell them what the product was. 309 00:15:28,955 --> 00:15:30,421 It was secret. 310 00:15:30,423 --> 00:15:32,122 Charles Lee: I assumed it was in the electronics. 311 00:15:32,124 --> 00:15:33,957 I didn't know if it was a toy, 312 00:15:33,959 --> 00:15:35,224 I don't know if it was a computer. 313 00:15:35,226 --> 00:15:36,525 Kim Frandois: Was it a sewing machine? 314 00:15:36,527 --> 00:15:37,425 Or a PC? 315 00:15:37,427 --> 00:15:40,194 It really didn't matter. 316 00:15:40,196 --> 00:15:43,964 Once I signed a nondisclosure, and I walked the halls, 317 00:15:43,966 --> 00:15:45,498 they showed me what the product looked like. 318 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:48,000 Steven Ullrich: They showed us the picture 319 00:15:48,002 --> 00:15:51,236 of the Compaq computer that we were going to build 320 00:15:51,238 --> 00:15:52,470 and that did it. 321 00:15:52,472 --> 00:15:53,938 Steve Flannigan: It was exciting. 322 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:56,140 It was like, okay, we can do this. 323 00:15:56,142 --> 00:15:57,174 This is a cool thing. 324 00:15:57,176 --> 00:15:58,875 I would like to own that thing. 325 00:15:58,877 --> 00:16:01,377 I would love to have that, that's better than anything 326 00:16:01,379 --> 00:16:03,078 I've seen on the market. 327 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,613 Man, Houston's the town. 328 00:16:05,615 --> 00:16:06,981 Here's the action town. 329 00:16:11,052 --> 00:16:13,353 Roger McNamee: Get your iPhone, you look at the half million 330 00:16:13,355 --> 00:16:15,021 apps that each of us has on there, 331 00:16:15,023 --> 00:16:18,190 and you look at all of the products 332 00:16:18,192 --> 00:16:22,227 designed for other platforms that miraculously seem to work. 333 00:16:22,229 --> 00:16:26,397 And we now take that for granted. 334 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:29,332 Before Compaq, nobody took compatibility seriously. 335 00:16:32,402 --> 00:16:34,936 Gary, the subject today is the IBM clones, 336 00:16:34,938 --> 00:16:36,904 and the question I get asked more than anything else 337 00:16:36,906 --> 00:16:38,672 by people who are about to buy computers is, 338 00:16:38,674 --> 00:16:42,008 should I buy an IBM, or should I buy one of the IBM look-alikes? 339 00:16:42,010 --> 00:16:44,043 I think I'm told there's about 50 IBM clones 340 00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:45,244 out there on the market now. 341 00:16:45,246 --> 00:16:46,912 What's the difference, do you think, 342 00:16:46,914 --> 00:16:48,914 between a clone that makes it and a clone that fails? 343 00:16:48,916 --> 00:16:50,949 Steve Flannigan: We didn't want to do 344 00:16:50,951 --> 00:16:54,052 a better machine than IBM. We didn't want 345 00:16:54,054 --> 00:16:55,920 to technically be superior. 346 00:16:55,922 --> 00:16:59,323 We wanted the software to run the same. 347 00:16:59,325 --> 00:17:01,358 Gary Stimac: The keystrokes were identical, 348 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,593 You didn't have to look at a different manual. 349 00:17:03,595 --> 00:17:05,461 There was no training required. 350 00:17:05,463 --> 00:17:08,430 You just sat in front of it, and it worked the same. 351 00:17:08,432 --> 00:17:10,265 Rod Canion: It wasn't some vague definition 352 00:17:10,267 --> 00:17:13,568 o what does compatibility mean-- it was very clear. 353 00:17:13,570 --> 00:17:15,469 We have to run all the software, and use all 354 00:17:15,471 --> 00:17:16,937 the peripherals that IBM does. 355 00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:26,512 Do you have any idea how expensive this thing was? 356 00:17:26,514 --> 00:17:28,113 Let's turn this thing inside out. 357 00:17:28,115 --> 00:17:29,380 Chris Cantwell: "Halt & Catch Fire" 358 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,248 is a show about the reverse engineering 359 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:34,118 process of the IBM PC. 360 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,788 The thing that really drew us to Texas was the story of Compaq. 361 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:40,791 You've got characters that, for all intents and purposes, 362 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:45,462 feel like outlaws, and they're coming in to take on IBM. 363 00:17:45,464 --> 00:17:48,198 And they basically do it by robbing a bank. 364 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,102 Nobody ever got fired for buying an IBM, right? 365 00:17:53,104 --> 00:17:55,437 You can be more. 366 00:17:55,439 --> 00:17:57,472 This is your chance. 367 00:17:57,474 --> 00:18:00,508 What we knew was that IBM had come out 368 00:18:00,510 --> 00:18:05,145 with a product that was made with off the shelf components. 369 00:18:05,147 --> 00:18:07,447 A personal computer, like any other computer, 370 00:18:07,449 --> 00:18:09,582 is just a nothing box full of electronic switches 371 00:18:09,584 --> 00:18:11,083 And hardware. 372 00:18:11,085 --> 00:18:11,850 Rod Canion: They hadn't designed a new disk drive 373 00:18:11,852 --> 00:18:13,618 or a new processor. 374 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:15,786 Anyone can buy all this stuff off the shelf right now. 375 00:18:15,788 --> 00:18:17,687 Rod Canion: This was stuff that everybody in the industry 376 00:18:17,689 --> 00:18:19,388 was using some form or another. 377 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:21,156 Except the chip. 378 00:18:21,158 --> 00:18:22,557 Except what's on the chip. 379 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:24,792 Steve Flannigan: Without IBM code it wouldn't run. 380 00:18:24,794 --> 00:18:27,427 It is the program, it is the magic. 381 00:18:27,429 --> 00:18:32,865 Rod Canion: We sent Gary Stimac to Dallas to buy some manuals. 382 00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:35,434 Gary Stimac: I purchased an IBM reference manual, 383 00:18:35,436 --> 00:18:39,137 and it had all the listings of the IBM code in it. 384 00:18:39,139 --> 00:18:42,273 Rod Canion: He says, whoa, this isn't hard at all. 385 00:18:42,275 --> 00:18:45,175 Bad news is they copyrighted it, and they own how it works. 386 00:18:45,177 --> 00:18:46,876 Gary Stimac: I circled the word copyright, 387 00:18:46,878 --> 00:18:49,578 brought it to the my lawyer, and he said, hmm. 388 00:18:49,580 --> 00:18:51,580 Jim Harris: What many of the companies were doing 389 00:18:51,582 --> 00:18:55,283 was they were copying IBM's code. 390 00:18:55,285 --> 00:18:58,185 Guess what, IBM sued them-- out of business they were. 391 00:18:58,187 --> 00:19:01,755 Good news is there's a way around that, sort of. 392 00:19:01,757 --> 00:19:03,490 We needed to make sure that we did not 393 00:19:03,492 --> 00:19:06,125 shoot ourselves in the foot from a legal standpoint. 394 00:19:06,127 --> 00:19:10,429 I said, Gary, you can no longer write the code 395 00:19:10,431 --> 00:19:11,897 because you've looked at it. 396 00:19:11,899 --> 00:19:15,433 In fact, you can't answer questions about the code. 397 00:19:15,435 --> 00:19:17,902 You're going to have to find a different job here at Compaq. 398 00:19:17,904 --> 00:19:20,537 Steve Flannigan: You can never look, you just can never look. 399 00:19:20,539 --> 00:19:23,640 If you look, and it influences your work, 400 00:19:23,642 --> 00:19:27,377 then you can be open to a lawsuit and you've copied it. 401 00:19:27,379 --> 00:19:29,846 Gary Stimac: No one in the entire office 402 00:19:29,848 --> 00:19:32,248 could ever buy a tech reference manual 403 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:36,619 without me removing the pages and me destroying them. 404 00:19:36,621 --> 00:19:39,922 Charles Lee: We had to basically create a functional device 405 00:19:39,924 --> 00:19:42,190 that would do what the IBM PC did without knowing 406 00:19:42,192 --> 00:19:44,659 how the IBM PC did it. 407 00:19:44,661 --> 00:19:47,895 Would be similar to playing baseball blindfolded. 408 00:19:47,897 --> 00:19:51,231 Very difficult, not impossible, but very difficult. 409 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,366 So you might strike out a couple times, 410 00:19:53,368 --> 00:19:55,901 and you might fall down a couple times, 411 00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:58,403 but eventually you're going to start to get a feel for it, 412 00:19:58,405 --> 00:19:59,904 and you start getting a hit. 413 00:19:59,906 --> 00:20:03,207 How many of these addresses do we need to transcribe? 414 00:20:03,209 --> 00:20:05,275 65,536. 415 00:20:05,277 --> 00:20:06,442 Charles Lee: We went out and got all 416 00:20:06,444 --> 00:20:07,910 the IBM software we could find. 417 00:20:07,912 --> 00:20:10,579 Everything we could find-- games, or Lotus 1-2-3, 418 00:20:10,581 --> 00:20:12,914 or unimportant, really important, all of it. 419 00:20:12,916 --> 00:20:14,615 We got every bit we could find. 420 00:20:14,617 --> 00:20:16,750 Steve Flannigan: We would go through and run them 421 00:20:16,752 --> 00:20:19,185 until something broke, and then we'd figure out well, 422 00:20:19,187 --> 00:20:21,620 what broke, and why did it break. 423 00:20:21,622 --> 00:20:23,321 Steve Flannigan: We liked the idea 424 00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:26,223 of what Compaq was trying to do a lot 425 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,791 because of the PC compatibility. 426 00:20:27,793 --> 00:20:29,592 We thought it was the right idea. 427 00:20:29,594 --> 00:20:32,828 We were rooting for it, but nobody really knew 428 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:34,629 how it was going to come out. 429 00:20:34,631 --> 00:20:37,632 Announcer: We're IBM, and we've seen some very sceptical people 430 00:20:37,634 --> 00:20:39,734 become very enthusiastic. 431 00:20:39,736 --> 00:20:41,936 And that makes us proud because we 432 00:20:41,938 --> 00:20:46,407 have more computers helping more small businesses than anybody. 433 00:20:46,409 --> 00:20:48,275 Bill Aulet: So at IBM there was always 434 00:20:48,277 --> 00:20:51,478 this arrogance, this confidence, that no one 435 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,246 could recreate what we did. 436 00:20:53,248 --> 00:20:54,847 And if they did, we could just 437 00:20:54,849 --> 00:20:56,715 tweak something because 438 00:20:56,717 --> 00:20:58,583 we controlled the marketplace. 439 00:20:58,585 --> 00:21:00,685 Announcer: IBM entered the personal computer market 440 00:21:00,687 --> 00:21:03,354 two years ago and went all out unleashing 441 00:21:03,356 --> 00:21:06,223 its power as the sixth largest industrial corporation 442 00:21:06,225 --> 00:21:07,424 in the US. 443 00:21:07,426 --> 00:21:08,925 Already, the computer giant has won 444 00:21:08,927 --> 00:21:11,560 25% of the personal computer market, 445 00:21:11,562 --> 00:21:12,994 and its share is growing. 446 00:21:22,804 --> 00:21:28,441 Compaq-- they were prying open a lock box, 447 00:21:28,443 --> 00:21:31,010 and they were letting the genie out of the bottle. 448 00:21:34,848 --> 00:21:38,517 Rod Canion: I was extremely excited and scared to death 449 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:39,985 because I was the one that had to stand up 450 00:21:39,987 --> 00:21:44,789 and make this speech, which I had never done before. 451 00:21:44,791 --> 00:21:48,526 Ben Rosen: Rod was not experienced in dealing 452 00:21:48,528 --> 00:21:49,994 with the public and the press. 453 00:21:49,996 --> 00:21:51,462 Rod Canion: Ben had made sure 454 00:21:51,464 --> 00:21:53,530 everybody that mattered was there. 455 00:21:53,532 --> 00:21:54,964 TV cameras were there. 456 00:21:54,966 --> 00:21:56,732 We're in this beautiful old room called the library 457 00:21:56,734 --> 00:21:58,533 at the Helmsley Palace. 458 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,601 Good morning and welcome. 459 00:22:00,603 --> 00:22:02,603 My name is Rod Canion, and I am the president 460 00:22:02,605 --> 00:22:05,672 of Compaq Computer Corporation of Houston. 461 00:22:05,674 --> 00:22:07,540 The mysterious company you've been invited 462 00:22:07,542 --> 00:22:09,642 to come and hear about today. 463 00:22:09,644 --> 00:22:11,877 Rod Canion: I spent most of the night practicing, 464 00:22:11,879 --> 00:22:13,945 changing, practicing, changing. 465 00:22:13,947 --> 00:22:15,947 This is an important day for us. 466 00:22:15,949 --> 00:22:19,550 The public introduction of a new personal computer that has been 467 00:22:19,552 --> 00:22:20,851 in development for nine months. 468 00:22:20,853 --> 00:22:22,419 Rod Canion: It was the big city 469 00:22:22,421 --> 00:22:26,856 And we were the kids from the plains of Texas. 470 00:22:26,858 --> 00:22:29,425 There's a three piece suit, and my thick glasses, 471 00:22:29,427 --> 00:22:30,993 and we looked out of place. 472 00:22:30,995 --> 00:22:34,529 This is the Compaq portable computer. 473 00:22:34,531 --> 00:22:38,432 The unit is laid over smoothly using its carrying handle, 474 00:22:38,434 --> 00:22:40,834 and the keyboard is removed by sliding two latches 475 00:22:40,836 --> 00:22:43,636 and lifting it out. 476 00:22:43,638 --> 00:22:46,872 That's how easy it is to get it ready for operation. 477 00:22:46,874 --> 00:22:50,075 It was a portable and that was something 478 00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:55,513 IBM had no entrant in at all, and it was 27 pounds. 479 00:22:55,515 --> 00:23:00,551 Portability-- people need to be able to take it anyway. 480 00:23:00,553 --> 00:23:01,919 It's going to have a handle. 481 00:23:01,921 --> 00:23:03,453 Chris Cantwell: It was simultaneously 482 00:23:03,455 --> 00:23:06,456 an incredibly revolutionary idea but sounds 483 00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:08,791 so mundane to today's audiences. 484 00:23:08,793 --> 00:23:10,325 A handle, wow. 485 00:23:10,327 --> 00:23:12,627 It is the only personal computer, 486 00:23:12,629 --> 00:23:16,664 portable or otherwise, that is truly compatible with the IBM 487 00:23:16,666 --> 00:23:18,499 personal computer. 488 00:23:18,501 --> 00:23:20,667 I begin to really realize, this is it. 489 00:23:20,669 --> 00:23:23,002 The flag was going down, and the race was going to begin. 490 00:23:23,004 --> 00:23:26,839 I repeat, Compaq is the only personal computer that is truly 491 00:23:26,841 --> 00:23:29,441 compatible with the IBM PC. 492 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:35,579 Bill Aulet: This was just a blip on the screen. 493 00:23:35,581 --> 00:23:38,348 Who cares about a luggable? 494 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:40,683 It just doesn't matter, it's a toy. 495 00:23:40,685 --> 00:23:43,585 It's a curiosity-- it's nothing more. 496 00:23:43,587 --> 00:23:45,620 Announcer: While some software computer firms are battling 497 00:23:45,622 --> 00:23:47,421 to succeed, one personal computer 498 00:23:47,423 --> 00:23:49,089 company is more concerned with taking 499 00:23:49,091 --> 00:23:51,658 its hardware success forward. 500 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:54,360 Kim Frandois: Our company is real all of a sudden. 501 00:23:54,362 --> 00:23:57,896 We have a name, we're on the radio. 502 00:23:57,898 --> 00:23:59,497 Steve Flannigan: We're getting calls 503 00:23:59,499 --> 00:24:01,565 from presidents, and CEOs, and engineers saying, 504 00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:03,099 this is a cool machine. 505 00:24:03,101 --> 00:24:05,935 What I brought today is a Compaq portable computer. 506 00:24:05,937 --> 00:24:10,039 It's a full functioning computer in a portable enclosure. 507 00:24:10,041 --> 00:24:13,442 John Markoff: People were walking with portable computers 508 00:24:13,444 --> 00:24:16,578 down the aisles of airplanes, and the computer 509 00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:18,112 was hitting people in the head. 510 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:19,580 Gary Stimac: We didn't hardly have a chance to breathe-- 511 00:24:19,582 --> 00:24:20,781 People loved the product. 512 00:24:20,783 --> 00:24:22,482 We couldn't build them fast enough. 513 00:24:22,484 --> 00:24:25,651 John Markoff: Trying to use portable computers, which 514 00:24:25,653 --> 00:24:27,386 were not laptops at that point. 515 00:24:27,388 --> 00:24:30,622 They were sewing machines on the meal tray of airplanes. 516 00:24:30,624 --> 00:24:34,525 The company's first product was a 28 pound portable computer. 517 00:24:34,527 --> 00:24:37,494 The salesman used to demonstrate how rugged it is 518 00:24:37,496 --> 00:24:38,962 by taking it and dropping it. 519 00:24:40,864 --> 00:24:42,097 Howard Anderson: What Compaq did, 520 00:24:42,099 --> 00:24:45,733 because they built things so damn well, 521 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:51,571 is they quickly went up to be an acceptable alternative to IBM. 522 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,105 Announcer: Its founders decided early on 523 00:24:53,107 --> 00:24:55,407 to build machines compatible with those built 524 00:24:55,409 --> 00:24:57,575 by IBM but with new features. 525 00:24:57,577 --> 00:24:59,643 Market research showed customers want it. 526 00:24:59,645 --> 00:25:00,777 Steve Flannigan: Sometimes people 527 00:25:00,779 --> 00:25:02,078 wanted to go home over the weekend 528 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,146 and finish their work before Monday. 529 00:25:04,148 --> 00:25:05,580 They grabbed a portable. 530 00:25:05,582 --> 00:25:08,082 That really turned out to be important. 531 00:25:08,084 --> 00:25:10,751 Bill Murto: Product was just flying off the shelves, 532 00:25:10,753 --> 00:25:12,152 and the dealers loved it. 533 00:25:12,154 --> 00:25:13,987 Announcer: Salespeople already familiar with 534 00:25:13,989 --> 00:25:15,855 IBM products didn't need much training 535 00:25:15,857 --> 00:25:17,923 to sell Compaq computers. 536 00:25:17,925 --> 00:25:21,493 Bill Murto: We meet a Computer Land dealer in a little motel, 537 00:25:21,495 --> 00:25:24,796 And there's no wall receptacle. 538 00:25:24,798 --> 00:25:27,632 How am I going to plug this in? Well, the bathroom has one. 539 00:25:27,634 --> 00:25:31,168 Okay, so we put the computer on the toilet seat, 540 00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:35,539 and we plug it in, and it ran. 541 00:25:35,541 --> 00:25:36,873 And they went, wow! 542 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:39,976 Ben Rosen: The challenge was building computers 543 00:25:39,978 --> 00:25:41,777 fast enough to meet the demand. 544 00:25:41,779 --> 00:25:45,747 We had no idea that it was oing to be as big as it was. 545 00:25:45,749 --> 00:25:47,882 We're cutting back on advertising-- we can't cut back 546 00:25:47,884 --> 00:25:51,886 on advertising, and Rod said, well, let me make this 547 00:25:51,888 --> 00:25:54,221 really clear-- we're sold out. 548 00:25:54,223 --> 00:25:55,889 Announcer: Compaq Computer Corporation 549 00:25:55,891 --> 00:25:58,758 delivered its first portable personal computer 550 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,893 in January of 1983. 551 00:26:00,895 --> 00:26:04,529 By the end of the year, the firm had sold $111 million 552 00:26:04,531 --> 00:26:05,930 worth of the machines, 553 00:26:05,932 --> 00:26:08,132 a figure that company executives say 554 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:10,934 exceeded the first year sales of any firm 555 00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:13,337 in American business history. 556 00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:14,838 Bill Aulet: That was the first time where 557 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,073 there was a ripple at IBM. 558 00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,775 That being said, we had seen other people come in-- Amdahl, 559 00:26:19,777 --> 00:26:22,244 Hitachi-- and they come and they rise, 560 00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:24,646 and then they go back down. 561 00:26:24,648 --> 00:26:27,949 And we will defeat them in the end. 562 00:26:39,127 --> 00:26:44,864 There was kind of a feeling that something was going on 563 00:26:44,866 --> 00:26:48,634 out there with respect to the PC world 564 00:26:48,636 --> 00:26:51,103 and somehow or other IBM wasn't getting 565 00:26:51,105 --> 00:26:52,938 the share that it wanted. 566 00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:54,673 Now, I know IBM was getting a big share, 567 00:26:54,675 --> 00:26:56,207 but they wanted more. 568 00:26:56,209 --> 00:26:59,376 And so people started paying a little bit of attention. 569 00:26:59,378 --> 00:27:03,346 with a clone that is actually offering more portability, 570 00:27:03,348 --> 00:27:07,750 for example, becomes a successful notion like that, 571 00:27:07,752 --> 00:27:11,386 then isn't it the case that IBM would or even has gone in there 572 00:27:11,388 --> 00:27:14,355 and taken that market to some extent? 573 00:27:14,357 --> 00:27:17,624 That's the danger of playing the IBM compatible game. 574 00:27:17,626 --> 00:27:21,027 There was complete conviction among the Wall Street public 575 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:23,162 and the press public. 576 00:27:23,164 --> 00:27:25,764 Well, enjoy it while you can because IBM 577 00:27:25,766 --> 00:27:29,200 is going to have a portable and then it's sayonara. 578 00:27:29,202 --> 00:27:31,268 Wall Street hit a record high again today. 579 00:27:31,270 --> 00:27:34,838 One of the better performers was IBM, up more than five points 580 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,105 this week alone. 581 00:27:36,107 --> 00:27:38,640 One of the reasons is IBM's huge success 582 00:27:38,642 --> 00:27:41,242 in the tough home computer market, and the rumour 583 00:27:41,244 --> 00:27:42,376 that there is more to come. 584 00:27:42,378 --> 00:27:44,277 What was IBM going to do, and when 585 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:48,648 was it going to actually happen, and how successful would it be? 586 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:51,150 Narrator: We were always concerned about IBM. 587 00:27:51,152 --> 00:27:53,418 Narrator: I think anyone else in the computer business 588 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:57,221 ought to be very frightened, and I think everyone else is. 589 00:27:57,223 --> 00:27:58,989 Jim Harris: IBM was arrogant. 590 00:27:58,991 --> 00:28:05,027 Some manager got POed at us and said, kind of like a hitman, 591 00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:08,964 go design a portable and take those guys out-- tired of them. 592 00:28:08,966 --> 00:28:10,765 Announcer: The Compaq Personal Computer's 593 00:28:10,767 --> 00:28:14,969 main selling point is its high compatibility with the IBM PC. 594 00:28:14,971 --> 00:28:18,872 Yet IBM is now bringing its own portable PC to the marketplace. 595 00:28:21,809 --> 00:28:23,242 Announcer: It's called the FUD factor. 596 00:28:23,244 --> 00:28:26,278 F-U-D for the fear, uncertainty, and doubt created 597 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,880 among its rivals by IBM. 598 00:28:28,882 --> 00:28:30,982 Will there be life for other home computers 599 00:28:30,984 --> 00:28:34,018 after giant IBM's product appeared? 600 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:35,919 What nobody outside the company knew 601 00:28:35,921 --> 00:28:38,087 is that we had no orders coming in, 602 00:28:38,089 --> 00:28:41,723 so this wasn't really a future hypothetical problem, 603 00:28:41,725 --> 00:28:43,091 This was an immediate problem that 604 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:48,963 Ross Cooley: Compaq's stock went down 605 00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:51,165 because they were concerned that IBM would 606 00:28:51,167 --> 00:28:52,232 put Compaq out of business. 607 00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:58,103 Bill Aulet: Compaq was the first one in with the luggable. 608 00:28:58,105 --> 00:29:01,272 IBM put two products, essentially, in there, 609 00:29:01,274 --> 00:29:02,973 and it doesn't do nearly as well. 610 00:29:10,247 --> 00:29:14,116 Rod Canion: They didn't really try to make it better 611 00:29:14,118 --> 00:29:17,486 and try to meet Compaq's advances 612 00:29:17,488 --> 00:29:19,087 in technology and performance. 613 00:29:19,089 --> 00:29:23,291 Their product would not run all the software-- 614 00:29:23,293 --> 00:29:26,994 their IBM software, even their IBM software 615 00:29:26,996 --> 00:29:32,064 people did to run in their computers 616 00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:35,434 would not necessarily run in their portable. 617 00:29:35,436 --> 00:29:37,002 But you could take that same thing, 618 00:29:37,004 --> 00:29:40,038 and put it in our portable, and it would run. 619 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,739 How could that be? 620 00:29:41,741 --> 00:29:44,408 Of course IBM at the time did the only obvious thing, 621 00:29:44,410 --> 00:29:46,042 and they blamed the user. 622 00:29:46,044 --> 00:29:48,277 You're not doing it correctly, and the user said, 623 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:50,479 I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. 624 00:29:50,481 --> 00:29:53,114 Why don't you come back to me when you've got it figured. 625 00:29:53,116 --> 00:29:58,284 I had heard from friends of friends inside IBM 626 00:29:58,286 --> 00:30:02,354 that there was a lot of discussion and turmoil 627 00:30:02,356 --> 00:30:03,988 within their PC ranks. 628 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:06,090 Why is this happening? 629 00:30:06,092 --> 00:30:08,492 Why is this little company out-marketing us? 630 00:30:17,401 --> 00:30:19,134 Announcer: They've done a little growing since they 631 00:30:19,136 --> 00:30:21,336 began in February of '82. 632 00:30:21,338 --> 00:30:23,771 They had six employees then. 633 00:30:23,773 --> 00:30:26,173 They have 950 now. 634 00:30:26,175 --> 00:30:28,008 Two years ago, they occupied the space 635 00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:29,943 on one floor of this building. 636 00:30:29,945 --> 00:30:33,846 By spring, it'll look like this in one of their locations. 637 00:30:33,848 --> 00:30:36,415 Well, production is up 1600%. 638 00:30:36,417 --> 00:30:38,784 The worry now is they won't get enough workers 639 00:30:38,786 --> 00:30:40,185 to keep up the pace. 640 00:30:40,187 --> 00:30:41,853 If you'd like to apply to Compaq, 641 00:30:41,855 --> 00:30:43,421 you can call this number. 642 00:30:43,423 --> 00:30:48,325 Compaq is looking to add 500 people by the end of the year. 643 00:30:48,327 --> 00:30:51,961 Ben Rosen: The culture that Rod created within Compaq 644 00:30:51,963 --> 00:30:54,396 was 20 years ahead of its time. 645 00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:02,970 Alec Berg: Tech companies today are very progressive, and cool, 646 00:31:02,972 --> 00:31:05,105 and they create a fun environment. 647 00:31:05,107 --> 00:31:06,840 When people aren't working 648 00:31:06,842 --> 00:31:09,809 they come play in our sandbox. 649 00:31:09,811 --> 00:31:13,312 If I work at Facebook, they'll do my laundry, 650 00:31:13,314 --> 00:31:16,214 They'll pick me up and drop me off, there's a masseuse, 651 00:31:16,216 --> 00:31:19,884 and there's a full time chef who is trained on cordon bleu. 652 00:31:19,886 --> 00:31:22,019 They basically have built a place that is so great 653 00:31:22,021 --> 00:31:23,553 that you never want to leave. 654 00:31:23,555 --> 00:31:25,488 At a time when other computer makers are being squeezed, 655 00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:27,556 why is Compaq still growing? 656 00:31:27,558 --> 00:31:30,458 The answer may lie beyond technology and marketing, 657 00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:33,427 in a corporate culture that gives employees free Cokes 658 00:31:33,429 --> 00:31:35,429 and puts trees in the plants. 659 00:31:35,431 --> 00:31:38,298 We started out providing coffee and soft drinks 660 00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:41,034 for everybody when there were ten people in the company. 661 00:31:41,036 --> 00:31:42,935 Jim Harris and I would stop by the grocery store 662 00:31:42,937 --> 00:31:46,004 and pick up some more soft drinks for the day 663 00:31:46,006 --> 00:31:47,438 uf we needed it. 664 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,975 It was a very egalitarian kind of culture, 665 00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:54,911 and it really owes it to Rod. 666 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,345 You sense that the employees appreciate 667 00:31:56,347 --> 00:31:58,947 the fact that you don't have a marked parking place. 668 00:31:58,949 --> 00:32:00,949 How often do you get to work early 669 00:32:00,951 --> 00:32:02,116 to get your job done and you walk 670 00:32:02,118 --> 00:32:03,984 by an empty reserved parking place? 671 00:32:03,986 --> 00:32:07,020 Just seemed to make sense that the people who got there first 672 00:32:07,022 --> 00:32:08,621 deserved to park closest to the door. 673 00:32:08,623 --> 00:32:10,522 You'd see Rod Canion walking down the hall, 674 00:32:10,524 --> 00:32:14,359 and it was certainly more than permissible-- it was hoped-- 675 00:32:14,361 --> 00:32:15,927 that you would stop and talk with him if you 676 00:32:15,929 --> 00:32:17,328 had something to talk about. 677 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:19,229 Announcer: The corporate culture at Compaq Computer 678 00:32:19,231 --> 00:32:21,130 means involving employees in decision 679 00:32:21,132 --> 00:32:23,165 making at almost every level. 680 00:32:23,167 --> 00:32:28,002 What I think, or what I say, can change things where you 681 00:32:28,004 --> 00:32:29,503 work-- that makes a difference. 682 00:32:29,505 --> 00:32:31,538 Steven Ullrich: We were all very proud of what we did. 683 00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:33,606 The camaraderie, and the teamwork, 684 00:32:33,608 --> 00:32:37,076 and the ability to get things done without the red tape 685 00:32:37,078 --> 00:32:39,511 and without all the hassle that comes 686 00:32:39,513 --> 00:32:40,645 with big company bureaucracies. 687 00:32:45,417 --> 00:32:47,317 Roger McNamee: IBM was the very definition 688 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:50,620 of what a large American corporation was. 689 00:32:50,622 --> 00:32:53,322 Announcer: They don't call it big blue for nothing. 690 00:32:53,324 --> 00:32:57,259 It's a company with more than 387,000 employees, 691 00:32:57,261 --> 00:33:05,132 834,000 shareholders, and 590 million shares of common stock. 692 00:33:05,134 --> 00:33:07,400 Bill Aulet: When you looked at the organization chart of IBM, 693 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,502 it was a very hierarchical organization. 694 00:33:09,504 --> 00:33:12,404 Here's the person up here and you're down here. 695 00:33:12,406 --> 00:33:16,141 What came down from on top is, you better not lose and that 696 00:33:16,143 --> 00:33:18,009 was just in IBM's blood. 697 00:33:18,011 --> 00:33:21,445 So it was a very, very competitive environment 698 00:33:21,447 --> 00:33:23,313 that you had to go through. 699 00:33:23,315 --> 00:33:25,415 The greatest asset the IBM corporation 700 00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:27,283 has happen to be its people. 701 00:33:27,285 --> 00:33:30,919 If you can give an individual a given set of objectives, 702 00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:32,553 measure them, and then reward them, 703 00:33:32,555 --> 00:33:35,222 then almost any target can be achieved. 704 00:33:35,224 --> 00:33:37,991 Howard Anderson: IBM was a financially driven company. 705 00:33:37,993 --> 00:33:40,460 Make your numbers, make your numbers, make your numbers. 706 00:33:45,199 --> 00:33:47,934 Announcer: If you run a small business, profits can get 707 00:33:47,936 --> 00:33:51,070 squeezed when inventory doesn't match up with production. 708 00:33:55,508 --> 00:34:00,111 What can help is a visit to an IBM personal computer dealer. 709 00:34:00,113 --> 00:34:01,712 Bill Aulet: We thought a breakthrough, 710 00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:04,481 kind of out-of-the-box thinking for marketing 711 00:34:04,483 --> 00:34:07,484 was having Charlie Chaplin sell our products. 712 00:34:07,486 --> 00:34:09,986 Announcer: The IBM personal computer-- 713 00:34:09,988 --> 00:34:13,222 not only can it help you plan ahead, it'll balance your books 714 00:34:13,224 --> 00:34:15,524 and give you more time to make dough. 715 00:34:15,526 --> 00:34:17,592 Bill Aulet: Charlie Chaplin being innovative marketing? 716 00:34:17,594 --> 00:34:21,329 It was for IBM, but it wasn't for the rest of the world. 717 00:34:21,331 --> 00:34:24,198 Why buy just a video game from Atari or on television. 718 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,434 Invest in the wonder computer of the 1980s for under $300. 719 00:34:27,436 --> 00:34:29,135 Chris Garcia: Everyone was pitching computers. 720 00:34:29,137 --> 00:34:31,637 You had William Shatner for Commodore. 721 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,439 With the Commodore Vic-20, the whole family 722 00:34:34,441 --> 00:34:36,107 can learn computing at home. 723 00:34:36,109 --> 00:34:38,042 Chris Garcia: My personal favourite, King Kong Bundy, 724 00:34:38,044 --> 00:34:39,443 was selling computers. 725 00:34:39,445 --> 00:34:42,179 Announcer: Bundy has never used a computer before. 726 00:34:42,181 --> 00:34:44,147 He's sitting down. 727 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:47,417 Wait a minute, the onscreen instructions 728 00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:49,786 are so simple, he doesn't have to wrestle with a manual. 729 00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:51,621 Compaq had John Cleese. 730 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:54,090 Hello, I'm going to tell you about Compaq's 731 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,658 new Portable II Computer. 732 00:34:55,660 --> 00:34:58,160 It's such a marvellous machine that it would be quite 733 00:34:58,162 --> 00:34:59,861 unfair to compare it with another computer, 734 00:34:59,863 --> 00:35:03,464 so we've decided to compare it with this fish. 735 00:35:03,466 --> 00:35:06,533 Chris Garcia: A surrealistic comedian from England 736 00:35:06,535 --> 00:35:09,869 who was more identifiable to the geeks in the audience 737 00:35:09,871 --> 00:35:11,403 than to the general population. 738 00:35:11,405 --> 00:35:12,804 The Compaq Portable II, however, 739 00:35:12,806 --> 00:35:16,507 Can run all IBM's most popular software 740 00:35:16,509 --> 00:35:18,342 30% faster than IBM can. 741 00:35:18,344 --> 00:35:19,876 Ha, ha, ha. 742 00:35:19,878 --> 00:35:24,747 TV ads with John Cleese were a runaway best selling hit. 743 00:35:24,749 --> 00:35:27,783 Announcer: Inside Compaq is capacity equal to 30 diskettes. 744 00:35:29,752 --> 00:35:30,885 I need a vacation. 745 00:35:30,887 --> 00:35:32,753 This decision was sound. 746 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:34,588 Wrong, but sound. 747 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,222 Announcer: Kind of makes you want to cry, huh? 748 00:35:36,224 --> 00:35:37,656 I am crying. 749 00:35:37,658 --> 00:35:40,125 Ben Rosen: The same year that we did the John Cleese 750 00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:43,128 commercials, Apple announced the Macintosh 751 00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:44,329 with its 1984 commercial. 752 00:35:45,732 --> 00:35:48,232 And we will bury them with their own confusion. 753 00:35:48,234 --> 00:35:48,865 Ah! 754 00:35:48,867 --> 00:35:51,801 We shall prevail. 755 00:35:54,337 --> 00:35:55,470 Announcer: Apple Computer officially 756 00:35:55,472 --> 00:35:57,238 unveiled its new Macintosh. 757 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,373 The new Apple that costs less than $2,500 758 00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:02,442 is supposed to be one of the easiest computers to use. 759 00:36:02,444 --> 00:36:04,811 What the Mac has really brought us is really affordable, 760 00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:06,345 high resolution graphics and that 761 00:36:06,347 --> 00:36:09,348 leads us to a whole new generation of software, 762 00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:11,850 where pictures and text are both important. 763 00:36:11,852 --> 00:36:14,385 What corporations had to do, because so many 764 00:36:14,387 --> 00:36:16,687 of their creative types wanted Apple, 765 00:36:16,689 --> 00:36:19,690 is they had to have a subheading. 766 00:36:19,692 --> 00:36:22,426 Okay, the creative types can have their Apple, 767 00:36:22,428 --> 00:36:26,430 But Apple was not really compatible with the rest 768 00:36:26,432 --> 00:36:27,798 of the world. 769 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,167 And Apple really didn't want that world. 770 00:36:30,169 --> 00:36:35,372 Mike Swavely: Apple was not a concern to Compaq 771 00:36:35,374 --> 00:36:38,475 because they seemed perfectly happy with their 4% or 5% 772 00:36:38,477 --> 00:36:42,312 market share, and people that bought 773 00:36:42,314 --> 00:36:44,614 Apples weren't usually people that were 774 00:36:44,616 --> 00:36:45,915 going to buy Compaqs anyway. 775 00:36:45,917 --> 00:36:48,517 Announcer: Meet the lady. 776 00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,320 Her name is Lisa, and she is the most exciting thing 777 00:36:52,322 --> 00:36:54,722 to happen in computers today. 778 00:36:54,724 --> 00:36:56,857 John Markoff: Steve Jobs created the Lisa, 779 00:36:56,859 --> 00:37:00,894 an attempt to do what Compaq ultimately did successfully. 780 00:37:00,896 --> 00:37:04,397 It was an attempt to enter the business market for computers 781 00:37:04,399 --> 00:37:05,765 and it failed miserably. 782 00:37:05,767 --> 00:37:09,602 Announcer: Unlimited power-- Lisa, from apple. 783 00:37:09,604 --> 00:37:12,938 John Markoff: Despite Steve Jobs welcoming Compaq 784 00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:15,573 to this industry, that they had thought that they had 785 00:37:15,575 --> 00:37:18,509 pioneered, Steve Jobs was gone from his company 786 00:37:18,511 --> 00:37:20,944 within the space of three years. 787 00:37:20,946 --> 00:37:25,948 Compaq basically shook Silicon Valley to its very foundations. 788 00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:28,850 Chris Garcia: What Compaq did give to Apple 789 00:37:28,852 --> 00:37:30,785 was that it proved that you could 790 00:37:30,787 --> 00:37:35,356 compete against the monster and succeed. 791 00:37:35,358 --> 00:37:36,790 Well, computer stocks haven't exactly 792 00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:38,825 been the darlings of Wall Street of late, 793 00:37:38,827 --> 00:37:40,760 But as Steve Young now reports, 794 00:37:40,762 --> 00:37:43,429 that didn't stop Compaq from promoting its latest 795 00:37:43,431 --> 00:37:44,730 product in gala fashion. 796 00:37:45,999 --> 00:37:47,732 I wear my sunglasses at night. 797 00:37:47,734 --> 00:37:49,633 I wear my sunglasses at night. 798 00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:51,468 Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, David Copperfield. 799 00:37:58,775 --> 00:38:00,575 Mike Swavely: Ken Price basically 800 00:38:00,577 --> 00:38:05,279 came up with the concept of an event to introduce a product. 801 00:38:05,281 --> 00:38:07,648 There were no limits. 802 00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:10,784 Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Compaq Computer Corporation 803 00:38:10,786 --> 00:38:15,522 proudly presents, live, the Pointer Sisters. 804 00:38:15,524 --> 00:38:19,926 I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. 805 00:38:19,928 --> 00:38:21,694 Roger McNamee: I went to some of those early Compaq 806 00:38:21,696 --> 00:38:23,896 product introductions, and I'm going, 807 00:38:23,898 --> 00:38:27,733 wow, that's like show biz. 808 00:38:27,735 --> 00:38:29,868 Rod Canion: I was doing things that I had never done before. 809 00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:32,670 Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, Rod Canion. 810 00:38:32,672 --> 00:38:35,472 Rod Baby Canion as we say in Hollywood, Rod Baby. 811 00:38:35,474 --> 00:38:39,776 Ben Rosen: All tech CEOs need communications training. 812 00:38:39,778 --> 00:38:43,045 Ken Price: He went from Wal-Mart polyester suits and shirts 813 00:38:43,047 --> 00:38:47,315 to really nice woollen designer jackets. 814 00:38:47,317 --> 00:38:50,051 Ben Rosen: All of us could use a little improvement, right. 815 00:38:50,053 --> 00:38:52,486 Bill Murto: He got some dental work done. 816 00:38:52,488 --> 00:38:54,020 Commentator: He went to speech school. 817 00:38:54,022 --> 00:38:56,555 I never dreamed that it could come this far. 818 00:38:56,557 --> 00:38:58,590 We went out and got contacts. 819 00:38:58,592 --> 00:39:00,992 Rod was more than receptive. 820 00:39:00,994 --> 00:39:02,960 Rod Canion: We knew a lot about designing products 821 00:39:02,962 --> 00:39:05,495 and knew nothing about the press, 822 00:39:05,497 --> 00:39:07,697 and Ben took me under his wing and was a very 823 00:39:07,699 --> 00:39:09,932 important influence on me. 824 00:39:09,934 --> 00:39:13,969 Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Irene Cara. 825 00:39:13,971 --> 00:39:14,869 What a feeling. 826 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:20,640 Even believing. 827 00:39:20,642 --> 00:39:22,308 Rod Canion: Today, we would like to introduce 828 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:25,778 a major addition to the Compaq family, the Compaq Plus. 829 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:28,847 Announcer: Compaq Plus stores 30 times more than yours. 830 00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:29,848 Does it have a handle? 831 00:39:29,850 --> 00:39:31,783 Announcer: Yes. 832 00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:32,950 Oh, drat. 833 00:39:32,952 --> 00:39:34,551 Introducing the Compaq Portable II. 834 00:39:36,087 --> 00:39:38,854 Announcer: Compaq's sales jumped 54% for the first 835 00:39:38,856 --> 00:39:40,355 three months of the year. 836 00:39:40,357 --> 00:39:41,689 Apparently, I should never have mentioned 837 00:39:41,691 --> 00:39:43,691 Compaq's portable computer. 838 00:39:43,693 --> 00:39:45,826 I should have been telling you about Compaq's Deskpro 839 00:39:45,828 --> 00:39:47,360 computer. 840 00:39:47,362 --> 00:39:48,394 Rod Canion: Today, we're announcing the Deskpro 286, 841 00:39:48,396 --> 00:39:53,898 and the Portable 286. 842 00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:55,966 Congratulations for another terrific year, 843 00:39:55,968 --> 00:39:57,934 people of Compaq Computers. 844 00:40:03,773 --> 00:40:05,406 We got to enjoy the day and then 845 00:40:05,408 --> 00:40:07,808 we'll get back to work, well, maybe tomorrow, I guess. 846 00:40:10,813 --> 00:40:13,046 Jan, this is what the fuss is all about. 847 00:40:13,048 --> 00:40:15,982 The 386 microprocessor from Intel. 848 00:40:15,984 --> 00:40:19,051 Now, no real operating system, no real software, yet people 849 00:40:19,053 --> 00:40:22,120 are waiting in line to buy computers with 386 in it. 850 00:40:22,122 --> 00:40:24,755 More talk about it than probably anything since the IBM PC 851 00:40:24,757 --> 00:40:26,523 came out. 852 00:40:26,525 --> 00:40:27,957 Is this a lot of hype, or is this really a major development 853 00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:29,124 of personal computers? 854 00:40:29,126 --> 00:40:30,725 Oh, this is not just hype, Stewart, 855 00:40:30,727 --> 00:40:33,360 This is a quantum leap in personal computers. 856 00:40:33,362 --> 00:40:34,961 Right now, people are standing in line 857 00:40:34,963 --> 00:40:37,630 to get these systems just for the raw speed that it offers. 858 00:40:37,632 --> 00:40:39,932 Announcer: The 386 chips, which give PCs 859 00:40:39,934 --> 00:40:43,769 the power and stunning clarity of so-called workstations, 860 00:40:43,771 --> 00:40:46,605 are expected to become commonplace in a year or two. 861 00:40:46,607 --> 00:40:50,875 IBM always had first access to the Intel computer chip, 862 00:40:50,877 --> 00:40:52,576 so everybody else was followers. 863 00:40:52,578 --> 00:40:56,146 So IBM was always at the tip of the spear, so to speak. 864 00:40:56,148 --> 00:41:03,619 IBM for maybe 70 years, I don't know-- however long it existed, 865 00:41:03,621 --> 00:41:05,887 expected exclusives. 866 00:41:11,392 --> 00:41:13,059 Commentator: Intel took the attitude, 867 00:41:13,061 --> 00:41:14,960 we're not going to work with just you; 868 00:41:14,962 --> 00:41:17,796 we're working with everybody. 869 00:41:22,735 --> 00:41:27,805 The significance of them being willing to release 870 00:41:27,807 --> 00:41:30,707 a microprocessor to someone who wasn't IBM, 871 00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:35,111 was at a minimum, a modestly hostile act towards IBM. 872 00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:37,079 Compaq Computer will announce 873 00:41:37,081 --> 00:41:39,514 two new personal computers today, including 874 00:41:39,516 --> 00:41:41,115 the world's fastest model. 875 00:41:41,117 --> 00:41:44,618 A development that could make big blue, IBM, green with envy. 876 00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:47,454 Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, 877 00:41:47,456 --> 00:41:50,457 come on, come on, come on. 878 00:41:50,459 --> 00:41:52,959 Rod Canion: Today, Compaq Computer Corporation 879 00:41:52,961 --> 00:41:56,028 is stepping to the forefront of the personal computer industry. 880 00:41:56,030 --> 00:42:00,799 The Compaq Deskpro 386 is by far the most advanced 881 00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:02,934 high performance personal computer available in the world 882 00:42:02,936 --> 00:42:03,768 today. 883 00:42:03,770 --> 00:42:06,637 The 386 era is here. 884 00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,906 Everyone at Intel is very enthused about Compaq's 885 00:42:09,908 --> 00:42:11,173 announcement today. 886 00:42:11,175 --> 00:42:12,774 Announcer: The system has a maximum RAM 887 00:42:12,776 --> 00:42:15,076 capacity of 14 megabytes. 888 00:42:15,078 --> 00:42:16,977 This provides more than enough memory 889 00:42:16,979 --> 00:42:19,145 for not only today's applications, 890 00:42:19,147 --> 00:42:20,913 but for tomorrow's as well. 891 00:42:20,915 --> 00:42:22,881 Of course, Compaq was first out of the gate 892 00:42:22,883 --> 00:42:26,951 with a 386 computer, but this time IBM is not in the picture. 893 00:42:26,953 --> 00:42:29,987 Rod Canion: We spent a lot of time trying to prove, 894 00:42:29,989 --> 00:42:31,955 absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt, 895 00:42:31,957 --> 00:42:33,456 that this thing was going to work 896 00:42:33,458 --> 00:42:35,524 and it was going to succeed, so how better 897 00:42:35,526 --> 00:42:37,158 than having Bill Gates himself standing up 898 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,792 and saying how great it was. 899 00:42:38,794 --> 00:42:41,561 The original vision of Microsoft-- that there would 900 00:42:41,563 --> 00:42:45,131 eventually be a machine on most desktops for office work, 901 00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:48,134 will be fulfilled by the power of this type of machine. 902 00:42:48,136 --> 00:42:53,472 It's gutsy, and the industry was like, whoa. 903 00:42:53,474 --> 00:42:56,675 I'm sure IBM went, they what? 904 00:42:56,677 --> 00:42:58,176 We did not see it coming. 905 00:42:58,178 --> 00:43:01,812 They couldn't have been happy. 906 00:43:01,814 --> 00:43:05,015 And we couldn't have been happier. 907 00:43:05,017 --> 00:43:08,518 Compaq insists that I tell you about their new 386 computer, 908 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,887 which they say is the most advanced desktop ever made. 909 00:43:10,889 --> 00:43:13,623 But they're still sticking to this cock and bull story 910 00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:19,595 about it being made from 386 chips and 32 bits of a bus. 911 00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,831 Frankly, this is not credible. 912 00:43:21,833 --> 00:43:23,365 It's an insult to your intelligence. 913 00:43:23,367 --> 00:43:26,000 If I were you, I wouldn't watch this commercial. 914 00:43:26,002 --> 00:43:28,035 In fact, I'll switch over for you. 915 00:43:28,037 --> 00:43:33,206 That was the first time that we came out so far ahead of them 916 00:43:33,208 --> 00:43:36,709 that people started asking what happened to IBM. 917 00:43:36,711 --> 00:43:39,978 I mean, you just follow what IBM does, right? 918 00:43:39,980 --> 00:43:42,180 That was the beginning of somebody 919 00:43:42,182 --> 00:43:47,151 putting real chips behind IBM is vulnerable and Intel did that. 920 00:43:47,153 --> 00:43:50,187 The funny thing is that certain other companies are still 921 00:43:50,189 --> 00:43:51,321 trying to make one of these. 922 00:43:51,323 --> 00:43:54,257 So if you work for mm, mm, mm, ha! 923 00:43:54,259 --> 00:43:59,662 Remember, all you need are 386 chips and 32 bits of a bus. 924 00:43:59,664 --> 00:44:02,798 We still dominated the corporate computing 925 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,868 marketplace, and if they got too big, then we would move in. 926 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:10,037 Is it fair to characterize you, as a competitor of IBM? 927 00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:12,672 Do you really take them on, head on? 928 00:44:12,674 --> 00:44:15,274 Well, we certainly compete directly with IBM. 929 00:44:15,276 --> 00:44:18,210 Our intent is not so much to compete with IBM, 930 00:44:18,212 --> 00:44:21,913 as to compete for customers who have an alternative 931 00:44:21,915 --> 00:44:23,180 of buying IBM products. 932 00:44:23,182 --> 00:44:25,048 It has been a star performer. 933 00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:28,885 It has grown faster than almost any other company in history 934 00:44:28,887 --> 00:44:31,754 in so short a period of time, but this business 935 00:44:31,756 --> 00:44:32,387 is fraught with 936 00:44:32,389 --> 00:44:33,888 danger 937 00:44:33,890 --> 00:44:36,657 Do you think they can continue this pace? 938 00:44:36,659 --> 00:44:37,257 It's doubtful. 939 00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:44,163 Announcer: Compaq released sales predictions Wednesday, 940 00:44:44,165 --> 00:44:46,665 saying the company will report first quarter sales 941 00:44:46,667 --> 00:44:48,767 of more than $200 million. 942 00:44:48,769 --> 00:44:50,301 Announcer: The company's two latest machines, 943 00:44:50,303 --> 00:44:54,038 a desktop and a portable, are pound for pound the most 944 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,939 powerful computers ever made. 945 00:44:55,941 --> 00:44:58,241 Announcer: Compaq more than doubled its sales last year 946 00:44:58,243 --> 00:45:00,042 and almost tripled its earnings. 947 00:45:00,044 --> 00:45:02,844 It took Compaq Computer just three years 948 00:45:02,846 --> 00:45:06,314 to leap into the Fortune 500 list of the nation's 949 00:45:06,316 --> 00:45:08,182 largest industrial companies. 950 00:45:08,184 --> 00:45:11,251 Kim Frandois: The press enjoyed writing about the wild Texans 951 00:45:11,253 --> 00:45:14,854 that came from nowhere and made a stake 952 00:45:14,856 --> 00:45:16,288 in the high tech industry. 953 00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:17,722 Announcer: The northwest eastern storm 954 00:45:17,724 --> 00:45:19,356 is being discussed aaround the country 955 00:45:19,358 --> 00:45:21,725 as one of the fastest growing companies in recent history. 956 00:45:21,727 --> 00:45:23,193 Jim Harris: We were having the time of our life. 957 00:45:28,064 --> 00:45:29,264 Kim Frandois: We never stopped. 958 00:45:29,266 --> 00:45:31,266 We worked hard, we played hard. 959 00:45:31,268 --> 00:45:33,234 Announcer: Compaq plans to announce what amounts 960 00:45:33,236 --> 00:45:35,035 to the Lamborghini of PCs. 961 00:45:35,037 --> 00:45:36,736 Roger McNamee: As time went on 962 00:45:36,738 --> 00:45:39,238 you see neater and cooler cars show up in the parking lot. 963 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:44,142 Mike Swavely: I bought a 1982 Porsche 928. 964 00:45:44,144 --> 00:45:45,910 Ken Price: He showed up at my house one morning, 965 00:45:45,912 --> 00:45:48,345 about 10 o'clock with a pitcher of bloody marys, 966 00:45:48,347 --> 00:45:50,980 and he said, c'mon, let's go buy a couple cars. 967 00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:52,314 Charles Lee: I had my wife, my kids, 968 00:45:52,316 --> 00:45:54,382 and we went to the Corvette dealer to get me 969 00:45:54,384 --> 00:45:56,183 a red and white Corvette convertible. 970 00:45:56,185 --> 00:45:59,853 I drove a four cylinder Tempest with a cracked windshield, 971 00:45:59,855 --> 00:46:04,457 so that was more or less the kind of cars that were 972 00:46:04,459 --> 00:46:06,091 in the parking lot before then. 973 00:46:13,098 --> 00:46:17,734 Ken Price: Those of us who were used to eating McDonald's 974 00:46:17,736 --> 00:46:19,736 and drinking Budweiser beer, 975 00:46:19,738 --> 00:46:22,739 were suddenly eating smoked salmon and drinking Dom Perignon. 976 00:46:22,741 --> 00:46:24,240 Charles Lee: I was looking out the window one day 977 00:46:24,242 --> 00:46:27,109 and a helicopter landed. 978 00:46:27,111 --> 00:46:30,011 And this girl I worked with left the building, 979 00:46:30,013 --> 00:46:32,113 walked out, got in the helicopter, 980 00:46:32,115 --> 00:46:33,380 and then a little while later, came back. 981 00:46:33,382 --> 00:46:34,447 And I said, what were you doing? 982 00:46:34,449 --> 00:46:36,115 She said, went to lunch. 983 00:46:36,117 --> 00:46:38,117 Every once in a while we slow down enough to step back 984 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:43,188 and look at it, and it's been tremendously rewarding, 985 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:44,989 and it does seem like a dream at times. 986 00:46:44,991 --> 00:46:47,091 Announcer: Sales at the halfway stage this year 987 00:46:47,093 --> 00:46:49,193 were just under half a billion dollars. 988 00:46:49,195 --> 00:46:50,928 Announcer: Only one company in history 989 00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:54,064 Has exceeded $1 billion in sales in its first five years. 990 00:46:54,066 --> 00:46:56,332 It happened just last year, and the company was 991 00:46:56,334 --> 00:46:58,400 Compaq Computer Corporation. 992 00:46:58,402 --> 00:47:01,903 One Wall Street analyst says sales could tap a billion 993 00:47:01,905 --> 00:47:04,405 and a half dollars next year. 994 00:47:04,407 --> 00:47:07,074 Holy shit, what the hell's going on here, right? 995 00:47:07,076 --> 00:47:09,943 I mean, I go and ask the people who've been the investment 996 00:47:09,945 --> 00:47:11,110 business a long time, have you ever 997 00:47:11,112 --> 00:47:12,978 seen anything like this before? 998 00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:14,145 And of course nobody had. 999 00:47:21,152 --> 00:47:23,419 My name's Rod and I'm proud of us. 1000 00:47:23,421 --> 00:47:25,821 Setting records fast and furious. 1001 00:47:25,823 --> 00:47:27,255 Jim Harris: Put some cable here, a shock 1002 00:47:27,257 --> 00:47:30,258 mount there, put it in a box that ain't quite square. 1003 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:33,194 We are Compaq's computer crew, shuffling on down, 1004 00:47:33,196 --> 00:47:34,395 doing it for you. 1005 00:47:34,397 --> 00:47:36,530 We're so phat, we know we're good. 1006 00:47:36,532 --> 00:47:39,232 Selling a billion like we knew we would. 1007 00:47:45,972 --> 00:47:55,112 Bill Murto: The success of the company was tremendous, 1008 00:47:55,114 --> 00:47:59,082 But on a personal level there were some, I'd say, 1009 00:47:59,084 --> 00:48:02,018 difficulties. 1010 00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:05,154 Ken Price: There was a definitive gap 1011 00:48:05,156 --> 00:48:10,191 between yourself, your spouse, sometimes your family, 1012 00:48:10,193 --> 00:48:12,359 which caused a lot of problems. 1013 00:48:12,361 --> 00:48:17,129 A lot of challenges and a lot of ill feeling. 1014 00:48:19,398 --> 00:48:20,598 Rod Canion: Now there were certainly 1015 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,466 some things I did miss, but I worked 1016 00:48:22,468 --> 00:48:27,037 as hard as I could to do both. 1017 00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:34,009 Coaching little league and spending time at school. 1018 00:48:34,011 --> 00:48:37,111 I think it's always sad when families split up. 1019 00:48:40,215 --> 00:48:44,518 There's nothing I can do about anybody else's. In my own case 1020 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,586 there were a lot of factors that lead to a point 1021 00:48:46,588 --> 00:48:52,324 where I ended up getting a divorce. 1022 00:48:52,326 --> 00:48:54,159 Bill Murto: And I remember coming home one day, 1023 00:48:54,161 --> 00:48:59,597 and my wife said, Chris, who's my son, 1024 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,569 mistook the gentleman working on the ice machine as you. 1025 00:49:05,571 --> 00:49:08,538 Wait, okay, that's a problem. 1026 00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:09,939 This isn't working. 1027 00:49:13,009 --> 00:49:19,179 Rod Canion: And he said, I want to retire. 1028 00:49:19,181 --> 00:49:22,282 And that was a shock. 1029 00:49:22,284 --> 00:49:25,485 Bill Murto: It's always been am I enjoying what I'm doing? 1030 00:49:25,487 --> 00:49:28,053 And the moment I'm not, change it. 1031 00:49:31,557 --> 00:49:34,191 Jim Harris: This is what happens to all big companies. 1032 00:49:34,193 --> 00:49:36,226 There are none, I don't believe, that 1033 00:49:36,228 --> 00:49:40,430 ever can keep what they had in the beginning 1034 00:49:40,432 --> 00:49:42,432 throughout their growth. 1035 00:49:42,434 --> 00:49:43,266 It's impossible. 1036 00:49:49,105 --> 00:49:56,210 Rod Canion: That happened during one of the toughest times-- 1037 00:49:56,212 --> 00:50:00,080 toughest periods of my leadership of the company. 1038 00:50:00,082 --> 00:50:02,148 While many of the IBM compatible companies 1039 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:04,950 have already gone under, literally, Compaq 1040 00:50:04,952 --> 00:50:06,451 has yet to really falter. 1041 00:50:06,453 --> 00:50:09,420 Compaq Computer has tried to outsmart IBM. 1042 00:50:09,422 --> 00:50:11,522 Announcer: First, Compaq took on the big boys, 1043 00:50:11,524 --> 00:50:15,125 then became one of them, and now must fight to stay. 1044 00:50:31,341 --> 00:50:33,975 Bill Fargo: I knew what IBM was capable of, 1045 00:50:33,977 --> 00:50:36,577 and I knew that they would come sooner or later. 1046 00:50:36,579 --> 00:50:38,478 I can't help but be reminded about that joke, 1047 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,012 how do you dance with an elephant? 1048 00:50:40,014 --> 00:50:42,047 Very carefully, right, exactly. 1049 00:50:42,049 --> 00:50:44,682 Commentator: There was these industry rumours that IBM 1050 00:50:44,684 --> 00:50:46,183 was going to sue Compaq. 1051 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,720 Bob Jackson: Let me just say Compaq 1052 00:50:50,722 --> 00:50:54,289 was practicing a large number of IBM's patents, large number. 1053 00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,293 Rod Canion: They were beginning to sense that they weren't 1054 00:50:59,295 --> 00:51:01,128 going to be able to control the PC industry 1055 00:51:01,130 --> 00:51:03,263 And make the kind of profits they were used to, 1056 00:51:03,265 --> 00:51:07,300 so they were looking to make money off of their patents. 1057 00:51:07,302 --> 00:51:11,003 Bob Jackson showed up at our door 1058 00:51:11,005 --> 00:51:15,040 and asked to see the CEO of the company. 1059 00:51:15,042 --> 00:51:18,009 IBM is here. 1060 00:51:18,011 --> 00:51:21,245 Bill Fargo: When IBM came they brought an army of people. 1061 00:51:21,247 --> 00:51:23,113 I don't really know who they were. 1062 00:51:23,115 --> 00:51:25,281 Chris Cantwell: IBM would do this thing called 1063 00:51:25,283 --> 00:51:27,983 filling the skies with lawyers. 1064 00:51:27,985 --> 00:51:31,587 Bill Fargo: I got very concerned, very concerned. 1065 00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:33,422 Holy shit. 1066 00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:35,724 Chris Cantwell: The idea was that lawyers would descend on 1067 00:51:35,726 --> 00:51:40,095 you in such a huge number it felt like the airborne was 1068 00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:41,696 parachuting into your office. 1069 00:51:41,698 --> 00:51:43,464 These guys could shut us down. 1070 00:51:43,466 --> 00:51:47,301 I mean, if they really want to go to the mat 1071 00:51:47,303 --> 00:51:50,704 that's a distinct possibility. 1072 00:51:50,706 --> 00:51:53,707 Bob Jackson: I said, IBM has 9,000 patents. 1073 00:51:53,709 --> 00:51:57,143 Okay, maybe half of them don't apply to you, 1074 00:51:57,145 --> 00:51:59,345 but we've shown you 20. 1075 00:51:59,347 --> 00:52:03,816 There are hundreds more, and you can invalidate some of them, 1076 00:52:03,818 --> 00:52:07,519 But you can't invalidate them all. 1077 00:52:07,521 --> 00:52:09,587 David Cabello: They wanted a percentage of our sales price 1078 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:13,390 for all of our sales. 1079 00:52:13,392 --> 00:52:14,524 Bill Fargo: They were at $2 billion, 1080 00:52:14,526 --> 00:52:17,260 and we were at $2 million. 1081 00:52:17,262 --> 00:52:22,565 It could end a company, stop a company in its tracks. 1082 00:52:22,567 --> 00:52:25,601 Bob Jackson: If they misbehaved-- loosely used term, 1083 00:52:25,603 --> 00:52:30,138 but if they misbehaved, we had the howitzers lined up. 1084 00:52:30,140 --> 00:52:33,307 Bill Fargo: I went in to Rod and told him we had to get 1085 00:52:33,309 --> 00:52:34,808 Serious about the negotiations. 1086 00:52:34,810 --> 00:52:40,613 They weren't going to settle for a few million dollars. 1087 00:52:40,615 --> 00:52:42,815 Rod Canion: He was very serious that if we didn't take 1088 00:52:42,817 --> 00:52:46,618 this offer, then they were going to come after us, 1089 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:49,587 and they weren't going to back off. 1090 00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:54,291 We went up to about $130 million and that closed it. 1091 00:53:04,267 --> 00:53:05,734 Rod Canion: The sword hanging over our head, 1092 00:53:05,736 --> 00:53:09,170 which was what's IBM going to do to shut you down, 1093 00:53:09,172 --> 00:53:14,608 seemed like it had left until April the second. 1094 00:53:14,610 --> 00:53:16,776 Hey, everybody, the new computers are here. 1095 00:53:16,778 --> 00:53:18,177 New computers? 1096 00:53:18,179 --> 00:53:20,479 Who may I ask authorized new computers? 1097 00:53:20,481 --> 00:53:21,446 Yeah, who? 1098 00:53:21,448 --> 00:53:22,280 You did. 1099 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:22,913 Who did? 1100 00:53:22,915 --> 00:53:24,347 I did? 1101 00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:26,649 IBM-- of course I did. 1102 00:53:26,651 --> 00:53:29,818 The new IBM Personal System II, the next generation 1103 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:31,486 of personal computing. 1104 00:53:31,488 --> 00:53:33,321 Announcer: It was the biggest IBM product announcement 1105 00:53:33,323 --> 00:53:35,356 since the original PC. 1106 00:53:35,358 --> 00:53:37,891 Announcer: IBM's Personal System II Computer 1107 00:53:37,893 --> 00:53:40,526 with the so-called microchannel, an entirely 1108 00:53:40,528 --> 00:53:42,561 new computer system that offers lots 1109 00:53:42,563 --> 00:53:44,396 of extra speed and capacity. 1110 00:53:44,398 --> 00:53:46,798 We built an excellent product. 1111 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,800 The micro channel is, by technical specs, 1112 00:53:48,802 --> 00:53:50,501 superior to the alternative. 1113 00:53:50,503 --> 00:53:51,869 Announcer: Permitting computer users 1114 00:53:51,871 --> 00:53:54,838 to perform several functions at the same time, 1115 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,639 like writing and printing, 1116 00:53:56,641 --> 00:53:59,308 functions that on many computers can only be done in succession. 1117 00:53:59,310 --> 00:54:01,610 Another new feature is that it has a port where we can 1118 00:54:01,612 --> 00:54:03,945 plug this mouse, this pointing device, 1119 00:54:03,947 --> 00:54:06,447 directly into the system. 1120 00:54:06,449 --> 00:54:10,517 My first reaction when I saw the announcement of the PS/2, 1121 00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:12,318 was oh, shit. 1122 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,821 Announcer: IBM is introducing a new line of personal computers 1123 00:54:15,823 --> 00:54:18,490 that will be compatible with its own software 1124 00:54:18,492 --> 00:54:21,626 but difficult for competitors to duplicate. 1125 00:54:21,628 --> 00:54:23,761 Hugh Barnes: Microchannel was their way 1126 00:54:23,763 --> 00:54:27,664 of breaking the whole compatibility thing 1127 00:54:27,666 --> 00:54:29,732 and putting it behind them forever. 1128 00:54:29,734 --> 00:54:31,900 IBM, it's just, it's nobody else. 1129 00:54:31,902 --> 00:54:34,836 This is our operating system, it only runs on this machine. 1130 00:54:34,838 --> 00:54:36,838 You can't have it, you can't have it, you can't have it. 1131 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,540 You have to buy this machine in order to run 1132 00:54:39,542 --> 00:54:41,375 our software, end of story. 1133 00:54:41,377 --> 00:54:42,576 There was no doubt they were just 1134 00:54:42,578 --> 00:54:44,911 absolutely trying to kill everybody 1135 00:54:44,913 --> 00:54:46,445 else-- kill all the clones. 1136 00:54:46,447 --> 00:54:48,780 IBM has come out, and in response to the market, 1137 00:54:48,782 --> 00:54:50,515 is lean and mean. 1138 00:54:50,517 --> 00:54:53,851 It's the next revolution and evolution of microcomputers, 1139 00:54:53,853 --> 00:54:56,019 and logically enough, it comes from, still, 1140 00:54:56,021 --> 00:54:57,453 the market leader in PCs. 1141 00:54:57,455 --> 00:54:59,455 United was the first corporate buyer 1142 00:54:59,457 --> 00:55:01,690 of the Personal System II Computers with 1143 00:55:01,692 --> 00:55:04,359 an order for 40,000 model 50s. 1144 00:55:04,361 --> 00:55:07,762 It was the Death Star of our era, 1145 00:55:07,764 --> 00:55:09,663 something designed to destroy all 1146 00:55:09,665 --> 00:55:11,431 the competition on the planet. 1147 00:55:11,433 --> 00:55:14,534 IBM has developed in the shape that will set the standard 1148 00:55:14,536 --> 00:55:15,902 for the next five years that the others 1149 00:55:15,904 --> 00:55:19,305 will have to play against. 1150 00:55:19,307 --> 00:55:22,508 Mike Swavely: We had our first PS/2 inside Compaq 1151 00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:25,644 within three hours of the announcement 1152 00:55:25,646 --> 00:55:27,545 and started tearing those suckers apart. 1153 00:55:33,651 --> 00:55:35,818 We were very confused about this microchannel. 1154 00:55:38,721 --> 00:55:40,955 Announcer: The drawback is that, for the most part, 1155 00:55:40,957 --> 00:55:42,957 The new microchannel system is not 1156 00:55:42,959 --> 00:55:45,359 compatible with the existing system 1157 00:55:45,361 --> 00:55:48,895 most personal computer companies now use that IBM developed. 1158 00:55:48,897 --> 00:55:51,030 Announcer: It was faster than the computer it replaced, 1159 00:55:51,032 --> 00:55:54,700 but it made useless $12 billion worth of software 1160 00:55:54,702 --> 00:55:56,568 already bought by businesses. 1161 00:55:56,570 --> 00:55:57,969 Will it hurt the consumer? 1162 00:55:57,971 --> 00:56:00,338 Well, it is a problem for a company who has a lot 1163 00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:02,506 of existing PCs installed. 1164 00:56:02,508 --> 00:56:03,740 Announcer: Like Metropolitan Life 1165 00:56:03,742 --> 00:56:05,441 Insurance Company, where they have more 1166 00:56:05,443 --> 00:56:07,709 than 8,000 personal computers, 1167 00:56:07,711 --> 00:56:11,345 more than half of them IBM, but while Metropolitan continues 1168 00:56:11,347 --> 00:56:15,849 to buy PCs, none of them has the new IBM microchannel standard. 1169 00:56:15,851 --> 00:56:17,550 Bill Aulet: The cat's out of the bag. 1170 00:56:17,552 --> 00:56:20,486 The customers now realize you can buy something that's 1171 00:56:20,488 --> 00:56:23,455 not IBM, and not get fired. 1172 00:56:23,457 --> 00:56:26,624 And in fact, it works better sometimes. 1173 00:56:26,626 --> 00:56:29,426 The ground underneath us is starting to come apart, 1174 00:56:29,428 --> 00:56:31,361 but we're making that last ditch effort. 1175 00:56:31,363 --> 00:56:33,896 It's kind of like the two minute drive at the end of the game 1176 00:56:33,898 --> 00:56:39,501 to try to get this back under control, but it's not working. 1177 00:56:39,503 --> 00:56:42,537 Commentator: The PS/2 was the biggest mistake they made. 1178 00:56:42,539 --> 00:56:44,472 Roger McNamee: They handed us the keys to the PC city 1179 00:56:44,474 --> 00:56:46,674 and we took them. 1180 00:56:46,676 --> 00:56:48,575 Announcer: Now, the question is, did IBM make 1181 00:56:48,577 --> 00:56:50,510 a mistake that's irreversible? 1182 00:56:50,512 --> 00:56:52,745 One that may lead to even more erosion 1183 00:56:52,747 --> 00:56:54,780 in its share of the personal computer market. 1184 00:56:54,782 --> 00:56:58,083 IBM just screwed all new customers. 1185 00:56:58,085 --> 00:57:00,118 They walked away from compatibility, 1186 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,487 and you're going to pay the price. 1187 00:57:02,489 --> 00:57:08,392 If we could take that message and isolate IBM, 1188 00:57:08,394 --> 00:57:10,560 then it becames a much stronger message. 1189 00:57:10,562 --> 00:57:12,495 There is a revolt of the clones this morning. 1190 00:57:12,497 --> 00:57:13,963 The nine personal computer companies 1191 00:57:13,965 --> 00:57:16,632 whose business has always followed IBM's design lead. 1192 00:57:16,634 --> 00:57:19,501 It's a case of IBM versus the rest of the personal computer 1193 00:57:19,503 --> 00:57:21,035 industry. 1194 00:57:21,037 --> 00:57:22,870 Announcer: Let's call them the gang of nine, a who's who 1195 00:57:22,872 --> 00:57:25,539 of heavyweights in the computer industry, 1196 00:57:25,541 --> 00:57:28,375 gunning for the increasingly disputed champion, IBM. 1197 00:57:28,377 --> 00:57:30,977 The little guys got together and said, that's enough. 1198 00:57:30,979 --> 00:57:34,814 The first one we went to was Microsoft. 1199 00:57:34,816 --> 00:57:38,784 Bill thought it was a great idea, but he also feared IBM. 1200 00:57:38,786 --> 00:57:41,153 Mike Swavely: IBM was still his largest customer, 1201 00:57:41,155 --> 00:57:44,689 and he just invested a whole bunch with IBM. 1202 00:57:44,691 --> 00:57:49,093 Chris Garcia: Microsoft knows it has a market with IBM, 1203 00:57:49,095 --> 00:57:52,996 but they recognized, relatively early on, 1204 00:57:52,998 --> 00:57:55,999 that all of their capabilities were going to be providing 1205 00:57:56,001 --> 00:57:57,633 to the largest number of users. 1206 00:57:57,635 --> 00:57:59,034 Rod Canion: He was looking for opportunities. 1207 00:57:59,036 --> 00:58:01,136 He would have jumped at any opportunity 1208 00:58:01,138 --> 00:58:03,438 to do something for Microsoft that 1209 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,939 would build their business. 1210 00:58:04,941 --> 00:58:07,875 If I was Bill gates, I would see the compatible market 1211 00:58:07,877 --> 00:58:09,843 as the reason why I am eventually 1212 00:58:09,845 --> 00:58:12,812 going to be a multi-billionaire, and one of the most successful 1213 00:58:12,814 --> 00:58:14,613 people on the planet. 1214 00:58:14,615 --> 00:58:16,748 Roger McNamee: The way you were supposed to deal with IBM was 1215 00:58:16,750 --> 00:58:19,984 that a smile and a hand shake in one hand, 1216 00:58:19,986 --> 00:58:22,519 and a knife to stab them in the back with the other hand. 1217 00:58:22,521 --> 00:58:24,521 Bill Murto: Bill said, yep, I'll contact 1218 00:58:24,523 --> 00:58:26,990 all the other manufacturers and give 1219 00:58:26,992 --> 00:58:29,993 you a inroad to their CEOs. 1220 00:58:29,995 --> 00:58:31,995 Announcer: Compaq, Tandy, Hewlett-Packard, 1221 00:58:31,997 --> 00:58:34,097 Olivetti, and NEC. 1222 00:58:34,099 --> 00:58:35,865 Announcer: It reads like a who's who 1223 00:58:35,867 --> 00:58:38,868 of the high tech world with the notable exception of IBM. 1224 00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:41,737 Now it's not only Compaq, but you've 1225 00:58:41,739 --> 00:58:46,041 got a whole group of people that they've got with them, too. 1226 00:58:46,043 --> 00:58:48,810 You're thinking, wow, maybe this thing 1227 00:58:48,812 --> 00:58:50,578 is bigger than we thought. 1228 00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:52,012 Roger McNamee: Can you get all the little guys 1229 00:58:52,014 --> 00:58:55,148 together and beat goliath? 1230 00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:58,885 That wasn't like a sure thing, it was not a sure thing. 1231 00:58:58,887 --> 00:59:04,056 Rod got a call from Lowe the day before we announced it. 1232 00:59:04,058 --> 00:59:06,024 Rod Canion: There was no way I wasn't going to go forward, 1233 00:59:06,026 --> 00:59:07,925 and there wasn't any way I was going to indicate 1234 00:59:07,927 --> 00:59:09,593 any weakness to him. 1235 00:59:09,595 --> 00:59:11,494 And he said, I think you're making 1236 00:59:11,496 --> 00:59:14,029 a big mistake by doing this. 1237 00:59:14,031 --> 00:59:16,131 I said, well, we'll see. 1238 00:59:16,133 --> 00:59:18,700 Led by Compaq Computer, IBM rivals 1239 00:59:18,702 --> 00:59:20,735 will unveil the new machines at a major news 1240 00:59:20,737 --> 00:59:22,203 conference in New York. 1241 00:59:22,205 --> 00:59:23,938 Announcer: They decided to develop their own computer 1242 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:27,241 standards, called extended industry standard architecture. 1243 00:59:27,243 --> 00:59:28,976 Announcer: Or EISA for short. 1244 00:59:28,978 --> 00:59:30,544 Announcer: Challenging the very standard 1245 00:59:30,546 --> 00:59:32,946 IBM is pushing with its highly touted 1246 00:59:32,948 --> 00:59:34,814 Personal System II Computers. 1247 00:59:34,816 --> 00:59:38,083 they're not afraid of IBM. 1248 00:59:38,085 --> 00:59:43,521 They are taking on IBM, and the tide is starting to turn now. 1249 00:59:43,523 --> 00:59:47,057 And the microchannel has a real threat to it. 1250 00:59:47,059 --> 00:59:49,092 Announcer: All of the companies that gathered at the industry 1251 00:59:49,094 --> 00:59:53,162 forum endorsed EISA because it maintains capability 1252 00:59:53,164 --> 00:59:55,731 with the almost 20 million computers 1253 00:59:55,733 --> 00:59:57,499 that exist in the world today. 1254 00:59:57,501 --> 01:00:00,001 Therefore, it protects the investment of today's millions 1255 01:00:00,003 --> 01:00:01,769 of PC users worldwide. 1256 01:00:01,771 --> 01:00:03,771 Announcer: While offering just as much speed and memory 1257 01:00:03,773 --> 01:00:07,508 as microchannel, and armed with a host of heavy support. 1258 01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:09,943 It is important that we provide system 1259 01:00:09,945 --> 01:00:15,180 software products which fully support EISA based machines. 1260 01:00:15,182 --> 01:00:21,052 This event exemplifies the industry's determination 1261 01:00:21,054 --> 01:00:23,788 to create and to expand standards. 1262 01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:30,060 The industry together stood up against IBM and prevailed. 1263 01:00:30,062 --> 01:00:32,028 Announcer: Letting the world know that Big Blue isn't 1264 01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:33,996 calling the shots anymore. 1265 01:00:33,998 --> 01:00:36,865 Their ability to change the market in directions 1266 01:00:36,867 --> 01:00:39,067 that don't make sense to a lot of people 1267 01:00:39,069 --> 01:00:41,069 is just simply not there anymore. 1268 01:00:41,071 --> 01:00:43,604 Announcer: Some analysts think it was a day that left 1269 01:00:43,606 --> 01:00:46,040 Big Blue looking black and blue. 1270 01:00:46,042 --> 01:00:48,642 Roger McNamee: The genius of Intel and Microsoft 1271 01:00:48,644 --> 01:00:52,879 was that they both decided to take a chance on Compaq, 1272 01:00:52,881 --> 01:00:55,181 because essentially, Compaq became 1273 01:00:55,183 --> 01:00:58,217 the canary in the coal mine for the strategy 1274 01:00:58,219 --> 01:01:00,385 of divorcing from IBM, 1275 01:01:00,387 --> 01:01:05,156 and their willingness to place their future 1276 01:01:05,158 --> 01:01:07,658 in the hands of this group from Houston 1277 01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:11,394 was pretty brave, and in retrospect, brilliant. 1278 01:01:26,441 --> 01:01:28,775 One final question, and kind of a personal one. 1279 01:01:28,777 --> 01:01:31,410 Are there some mountains out there still for Rod Canion 1280 01:01:31,412 --> 01:01:33,111 to climb? 1281 01:01:33,113 --> 01:01:36,047 I think my biggest challenge for the foreseeable future 1282 01:01:36,049 --> 01:01:38,382 is to keep Compaq together. 1283 01:01:38,384 --> 01:01:41,752 Keep the culture, keep it rolling, 1284 01:01:41,754 --> 01:01:43,353 and reach whatever potential's there. 1285 01:01:43,355 --> 01:01:46,456 Nobody really knows how fast and how far a computer company 1286 01:01:46,458 --> 01:01:47,990 can go, and I'd like to see that. 1287 01:01:47,992 --> 01:01:50,225 Compaq Computer is one of the fastest growing 1288 01:01:50,227 --> 01:01:51,993 personal computer makers. 1289 01:01:51,995 --> 01:01:54,829 There's a company whose sales have grown from $111 million 1290 01:01:54,831 --> 01:01:58,465 in 1983 to more than $2 billion last year. 1291 01:01:58,467 --> 01:02:00,033 So what's to worry about? 1292 01:02:00,035 --> 01:02:03,436 It was a very different company. 1293 01:02:03,438 --> 01:02:05,838 How do you manage 17,000 people in the same way 1294 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,372 that you manage a hundred-- it's not possible. 1295 01:02:07,374 --> 01:02:11,409 Jim Harris: Every time you hire you end up, potentially, 1296 01:02:11,411 --> 01:02:14,278 starting to dilute, and then over time 1297 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,047 you end up with an organization that isn't 1298 01:02:17,049 --> 01:02:19,249 the same as the organization you started with. 1299 01:02:19,251 --> 01:02:21,050 Has the fun gone out of it now that you've 1300 01:02:21,052 --> 01:02:22,351 built this successful company? 1301 01:02:22,353 --> 01:02:23,185 Will you stay with it? 1302 01:02:23,187 --> 01:02:24,452 What are your plans? 1303 01:02:24,454 --> 01:02:26,487 Oh, no, the fun is still there. 1304 01:02:26,489 --> 01:02:30,357 The challenge is different, that's all I can say. 1305 01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:32,292 There's nothing quite like starting a company 1306 01:02:32,294 --> 01:02:34,227 and having it grow rapidly. 1307 01:02:34,229 --> 01:02:37,330 As we moved to a Fortune 500 status 1308 01:02:37,332 --> 01:02:39,498 and then approaching the billion dollar level, 1309 01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:42,300 the problems are different. 1310 01:02:42,302 --> 01:02:44,168 Rod Canion: We knew we needed a leader 1311 01:02:44,170 --> 01:02:49,172 to build a team in Europe, and through a recommendation, 1312 01:02:49,174 --> 01:02:51,474 we contacted Eckhard Pfeiffer and very 1313 01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,042 quickly he joined the company and began 1314 01:02:53,044 --> 01:02:54,443 to build our European team. 1315 01:02:54,445 --> 01:02:57,479 We decided that we would go into the major markets 1316 01:02:57,481 --> 01:03:01,983 right from the start, which were Germany, the UK, and France. 1317 01:03:01,985 --> 01:03:03,751 And from then on expand gradually 1318 01:03:03,753 --> 01:03:05,819 into all the other countries. 1319 01:03:05,821 --> 01:03:11,123 He was more accustomed to high volume manufacturing, 1320 01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:15,994 get the cost out, kinds of situations 1321 01:03:15,996 --> 01:03:19,364 and that's exactly what Compaq needed with the new lower 1322 01:03:19,366 --> 01:03:20,865 cost product line. 1323 01:03:20,867 --> 01:03:22,800 In our CEO forum this week, we take a look 1324 01:03:22,802 --> 01:03:25,536 at the art of competing on the international scene. 1325 01:03:25,538 --> 01:03:28,071 American companies versus the Japanese. 1326 01:03:28,073 --> 01:03:30,440 Do you worry about the competition that's 1327 01:03:30,442 --> 01:03:32,775 coming from the far east and from Europe, 1328 01:03:32,777 --> 01:03:34,243 particularly in the computer industry? 1329 01:03:34,245 --> 01:03:37,012 The Japanese certainly have a lot of strengths. 1330 01:03:37,014 --> 01:03:40,115 The Japanese company has major competitors in the long term. 1331 01:03:40,117 --> 01:03:42,417 Foreign manufacturers got to be pretty good. 1332 01:03:42,419 --> 01:03:46,187 Quality improved, and essentially, for someone 1333 01:03:46,189 --> 01:03:49,957 like Compaq, they no longer could get that price 1334 01:03:49,959 --> 01:03:51,858 advantage that they once had. 1335 01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:55,228 You wouldn't want to buy these things for $3,000 anymore. 1336 01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:57,263 Could you buy them for $1,000? 1337 01:03:57,265 --> 01:03:58,998 Do I hear $950? 1338 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,934 Announcer: The new notebooks like Toshiba's T-1000, 1339 01:04:01,936 --> 01:04:05,304 Tandy's 1100-FD and Zenith's Mini Sport are 1340 01:04:05,306 --> 01:04:07,472 in the $1,000 to $2,000 range. 1341 01:04:07,474 --> 01:04:13,009 At the high end, about $4,000, Compaq LTE 286. 1342 01:04:13,011 --> 01:04:15,244 We had companies like Dell Computer actually 1343 01:04:15,246 --> 01:04:18,013 begin to build better and better products, 1344 01:04:18,015 --> 01:04:20,215 and they were selling them at a lower price. 1345 01:04:20,217 --> 01:04:22,150 Announcer: Compaq, the Houston giant, 1346 01:04:22,152 --> 01:04:24,385 has been facing an advertising assault from the much 1347 01:04:24,387 --> 01:04:26,153 smaller Dell Computer. 1348 01:04:26,155 --> 01:04:29,356 The industry can't recall anything like these biting ads 1349 01:04:29,358 --> 01:04:31,424 comparing features and price. 1350 01:04:31,426 --> 01:04:35,995 The Dell ad calls Dell appealing and Compaq appalling. 1351 01:04:35,997 --> 01:04:37,596 Dell, top of the mark. 1352 01:04:37,598 --> 01:04:40,198 Compaq, top of the mark-ups. 1353 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400 Compaq is not amused. 1354 01:04:42,402 --> 01:04:46,003 You can't survive, I believe, for very long at least, 1355 01:04:46,005 --> 01:04:48,071 just by selling the same products at a lower price. 1356 01:04:48,073 --> 01:04:49,605 Bill Fargo: And there were people 1357 01:04:49,607 --> 01:04:52,274 who said we need to get a low cost product out there now 1358 01:04:52,276 --> 01:04:55,577 and take on these people. 1359 01:04:55,579 --> 01:04:58,111 That was primarily led by Pfeiffer. 1360 01:05:01,448 --> 01:05:03,115 I think it has been a little bit more 1361 01:05:03,117 --> 01:05:07,018 difficult for them to keep up with the changing 1362 01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:08,319 in technology. 1363 01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:09,987 Announcer: Compaq, a darling of Wall Street 1364 01:05:09,989 --> 01:05:12,155 that could do little wrong in the past, 1365 01:05:12,157 --> 01:05:14,991 found itself on the market's bad side last week. 1366 01:05:14,993 --> 01:05:16,559 Compaq's stock plunged. 1367 01:05:16,561 --> 01:05:19,528 Announcer: On paper, combined losses to all shareholders 1368 01:05:19,530 --> 01:05:22,264 of more than $740 million. 1369 01:05:22,266 --> 01:05:25,900 It certainly is a stumble in the eyes of the stockholders. 1370 01:05:25,902 --> 01:05:31,371 We didn't want to disappoint relative to expectations, 1371 01:05:31,373 --> 01:05:32,939 But I think you've got to differentiate that 1372 01:05:32,941 --> 01:05:34,573 from the actual health of the company. 1373 01:05:34,575 --> 01:05:39,144 Ben, with some prodding from Pfeiffer, 1374 01:05:39,146 --> 01:05:42,881 was becoming paranoid that we would not be able to recognize, 1375 01:05:42,883 --> 01:05:46,651 and switch, and move, from as high a quality provider as we 1376 01:05:46,653 --> 01:05:50,388 were to low cost computers. 1377 01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:52,523 Ben Rosen: We certainly started seeing changes 1378 01:05:52,525 --> 01:05:59,062 in marketing strategies, changes in the competitor base, 1379 01:05:59,064 --> 01:06:02,031 changes in the importance of pricing. 1380 01:06:02,033 --> 01:06:04,233 The essential view was that Rod could not 1381 01:06:04,235 --> 01:06:07,236 adapt to what the company needed going forward. 1382 01:06:07,238 --> 01:06:08,971 Ben had other concerns about it. 1383 01:06:08,973 --> 01:06:15,310 He was more concerned about me losing 1384 01:06:15,312 --> 01:06:16,544 commitment to the company. 1385 01:06:16,546 --> 01:06:20,648 Rod was working on a low cost concept, 1386 01:06:20,650 --> 01:06:27,020 but I don't think he was pushing it enough to satisfy the board. 1387 01:06:27,022 --> 01:06:29,522 The chairman of your company is a guy named Ben Rosen. 1388 01:06:29,524 --> 01:06:33,192 What's the chemistry between the two of you? 1389 01:06:33,194 --> 01:06:35,194 I'd say Ben and I are very good friends. 1390 01:06:35,196 --> 01:06:39,198 Ben joined Compaq at a time when we were just forming, 1391 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,266 and I think he's played a key role in helping 1392 01:06:41,268 --> 01:06:43,268 guide us along the way. 1393 01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:45,169 We have a lot of mutual respect, and we bring 1394 01:06:45,171 --> 01:06:48,305 different things to the party. 1395 01:06:48,307 --> 01:06:50,407 Roger McNamee: You have to give Ben credit for two things. 1396 01:06:50,409 --> 01:06:53,009 One, he saw that the vision was a real vision. 1397 01:06:53,011 --> 01:06:57,146 He got it right away because they did finance the plan, 1398 01:06:57,148 --> 01:07:00,449 and then at each stage thereafter 1399 01:07:00,451 --> 01:07:04,252 he encouraged and supported. 1400 01:07:04,254 --> 01:07:07,388 Without Ben Rosen, Compaq Computer Corporation 1401 01:07:07,390 --> 01:07:08,455 would not be where it is today. 1402 01:07:11,425 --> 01:07:13,626 Bill Fargo: The board did not want 1403 01:07:13,628 --> 01:07:23,535 to take any action against Rod, but they got to the point 1404 01:07:23,537 --> 01:07:27,338 where they felt like we had to do something. 1405 01:07:48,359 --> 01:07:50,226 Jim Harris: Ben decided that he might want 1406 01:07:50,228 --> 01:07:51,660 to create a situation where there's 1407 01:07:51,662 --> 01:07:55,163 kind of two bosses, Pfeiffer and Rod, 1408 01:07:55,165 --> 01:08:00,767 because of a loss of confidence in us. 1409 01:08:00,769 --> 01:08:02,435 Roger McNamee: There are some management changes 1410 01:08:02,437 --> 01:08:05,738 that you make because an opportunity is created 1411 01:08:05,740 --> 01:08:10,042 by bringing that new person in, and even at the time, 1412 01:08:10,044 --> 01:08:14,579 there was no evidence of that at Compaq. 1413 01:08:14,581 --> 01:08:16,480 Hugh Barnes: I don't question the motives of it. 1414 01:08:16,482 --> 01:08:21,017 I think Ben was genuinely concerned, 1415 01:08:21,019 --> 01:08:25,221 I mean there's just no doubt about it. 1416 01:08:25,223 --> 01:08:26,589 Jim Harris: Rod wouldn't compromise 1417 01:08:26,591 --> 01:08:28,357 and take the dual leadership. 1418 01:08:31,527 --> 01:08:34,362 We were getting ready to have a board meeting and Rod told me. 1419 01:08:34,364 --> 01:08:36,430 He said, you know, Jim, they're going to vote 1420 01:08:36,432 --> 01:08:39,433 today on whether to remove me. 1421 01:08:39,435 --> 01:08:41,401 My attitude when we started Compaq was 1422 01:08:41,403 --> 01:08:44,804 I would be ready to move aside if that ever was necessary, 1423 01:08:44,806 --> 01:08:46,672 and I think the other founders of Compaq 1424 01:08:46,674 --> 01:08:49,508 had the same attitude. 1425 01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:52,444 That night of the board meeting, 1426 01:08:52,446 --> 01:08:58,315 it was 10:30, 11:00 o'clock at night. 1427 01:08:58,317 --> 01:09:00,150 I got a call from Jim. 1428 01:09:13,196 --> 01:09:14,362 Kim walker: I can only say there was 1429 01:09:14,364 --> 01:09:16,063 open weeping in the hallways. 1430 01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,834 Bill Fargo: Going on without him was almost unimaginable. 1431 01:09:26,639 --> 01:09:28,640 Charles Lee: I had quit Compaq that day. 1432 01:09:31,577 --> 01:09:33,077 Kim Walker: It was like the heart and soul 1433 01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:35,145 of the company being torn out. 1434 01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:38,715 Jim Harris: I went ahead and turned my resignation in. 1435 01:09:43,787 --> 01:09:47,256 Rod Canion: I cannot even think of being tired of what 1436 01:09:47,258 --> 01:09:49,458 I'm doing and the opportunity that I see 1437 01:09:49,460 --> 01:09:51,393 at Compaq in the same fault-- 1438 01:09:51,395 --> 01:09:52,560 they are two different things. 1439 01:09:52,562 --> 01:09:55,563 I see so much challenge out there, 1440 01:09:55,565 --> 01:09:57,865 a challenge that, I believe, we're capable of, 1441 01:09:57,867 --> 01:10:00,167 and yet I really want to see it through. 1442 01:10:03,804 --> 01:10:05,738 Roger McNamee: Ben convinced himself that this 1443 01:10:05,740 --> 01:10:07,239 was the right thing to make. 1444 01:10:10,176 --> 01:10:11,543 Bill Fargo: He lost it. 1445 01:10:11,545 --> 01:10:15,113 He shed several tears over the decision. 1446 01:10:19,751 --> 01:10:23,820 Hugh Barnes: It was inevitable that there'd be a change. 1447 01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:35,197 Rod Canion: It was a very sad time. 1448 01:10:39,869 --> 01:10:43,871 It sunk in, what had really happened and what it meant. 1449 01:10:47,376 --> 01:10:49,443 It took a very long time before it 1450 01:10:49,445 --> 01:10:53,480 finally began to feel normal not to be there every day. 1451 01:10:53,482 --> 01:10:56,916 It was tough, it was tough on-- it was hard on me. 1452 01:11:40,392 --> 01:11:42,760 Roger McNamee: Compaq's focus on portability 1453 01:11:42,762 --> 01:11:44,895 was the beginning of mobility and mattering 1454 01:11:44,897 --> 01:11:53,603 to the technology industry, and everything that we do today 1455 01:11:53,605 --> 01:11:56,739 is really driven by the ethic that if you 1456 01:11:56,741 --> 01:12:00,642 can't do it while you're moving around, it's not very valuable. 1457 01:12:00,644 --> 01:12:03,311 And we can thank Compaq for all of that. 1458 01:12:03,313 --> 01:12:06,314 My dad would always look at some of these cell phones, 1459 01:12:06,316 --> 01:12:08,983 or some of the newer computers, and say, 1460 01:12:08,985 --> 01:12:11,819 are you responsible for all of this stuff? 1461 01:12:11,821 --> 01:12:13,320 Well, yeah, it's a good thing. 1462 01:12:13,322 --> 01:12:15,455 I use iPhones, I use iPads, and I 1463 01:12:15,457 --> 01:12:18,458 do know that if Compaq developed those products-- now, 1464 01:12:18,460 --> 01:12:19,959 I'm not taking anything away from those guys. 1465 01:12:19,961 --> 01:12:22,027 Those guys did magnificent job, and they can sell them 1466 01:12:22,029 --> 01:12:26,564 to dead people, but if we did them they'd work better, 1467 01:12:26,566 --> 01:12:28,499 I know that. 1468 01:12:28,501 --> 01:12:31,835 If anybody had tried to tell me how successful 1469 01:12:31,837 --> 01:12:36,339 Compaq would become, I would've just said, 1470 01:12:36,341 --> 01:12:39,442 you're blowing smoke. 1471 01:12:39,444 --> 01:12:40,676 That's not possible. 1472 01:12:40,678 --> 01:12:45,113 We never, ever had aany idea that this 1473 01:12:45,115 --> 01:12:48,950 would be as explosively successful as it was, never. 1474 01:12:48,952 --> 01:12:50,751 I don't think we were ever trying to take 1475 01:12:50,753 --> 01:12:54,020 down the biggest company, ever. 1476 01:12:54,022 --> 01:12:56,389 We were trying to survive. 1477 01:12:56,391 --> 01:13:01,360 Here was a product and an idea for a start up 1478 01:13:01,362 --> 01:13:04,930 that should have been in Silicon Valley, if anywhere. 1479 01:13:04,932 --> 01:13:05,830 But Houston? 1480 01:13:05,832 --> 01:13:07,031 Give me a break. 1481 01:13:07,033 --> 01:13:10,000 I had no idea we were going to be doing 1482 01:13:10,002 --> 01:13:11,101 a billion dollar company-- I mean, 1483 01:13:11,103 --> 01:13:13,670 The billion dollar baby was IBM. 1484 01:13:13,672 --> 01:13:16,639 How can I even conceive, or think, that we 1485 01:13:16,641 --> 01:13:20,676 would be an IBM in that sense? 1486 01:13:20,678 --> 01:13:25,080 No way, not the slightest. 1487 01:13:25,082 --> 01:13:28,650 I would still like to have a Mexican restaurant. 121061

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