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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Downloaded From www.AllSubs.org 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:15,800 www.1000fr.com present 3 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:28,300 Capture:Fadeout sync:FRM@�ۺ��� 4 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,100 ANNABETH: Why'd you call us so soon? 5 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:31,300 Don't you need to finish your investigation? 6 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:32,600 Oh, we didn't know what to do with him. 7 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,100 Wanted some guidance from the prosecutor's office. 8 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,200 She was in the car? 9 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,400 Mother's on her way to pick her up. 10 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,700 Guy gets into a fight with his kid in the car. 11 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:41,800 Where is this genius? 12 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,200 He's in with his attorney. 13 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:46,200 A cop on the scene said his first call was 911, 14 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,300 second was his wife. 15 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:48,700 And third was his lawyer. 16 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:49,400 So who is he? 17 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,500 Greg Paulson. 18 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:52,800 English professor, Central Indiana. 19 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,000 English professor? 20 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,100 This guy killed someone in a fight? 21 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:57,100 Road rage. 22 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:58,900 Says the other driver attacked him. 23 00:01:58,900 --> 00:01:59,800 He fought back. 24 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,700 Looks like a lover, not a fighter. 25 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:02,500 Alcohol? 26 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:04,700 He did a voluntary Breathalyzer at the scene. 27 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:05,600 Not a drop. 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Who's the victim? 29 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,000 According to his driver's license, 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,400 Mark Riggs. Coroner's prelim 31 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,700 blunt force trauma, fractured skull, 32 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:13,800 broken right forearm. 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Defensive wound. 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,300 That'd be my guess. Weapon? 35 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:17,800 Bloody crowbar next to the body. 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,300 Who's crowbar? Probably the victim's. 37 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:22,800 There were some loose tools in his pickup, a hard hat. 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,600 A construction worker, carpenter. 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,700 Anything else? 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Passenger side window of Paulson's minivan was smashed. 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,700 Few pieces of glass in the kid's car seat. 42 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:33,700 Lucky she wasn't cut up. 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,700 Witnesses? It was dark,happened fast. 44 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:38,800 In other words... We're working on it. 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,300 There's nobody helpful yet. (knocking on door) 46 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:42,300 Annabeth... 47 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:44,200 so glad you're here. 48 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:45,700 My client's ready to talk. 49 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:47,300 You're letting a client talk, Paul? 50 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:48,600 That's a novel strategy. 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,300 Well, you know the adage, Annabeth. 52 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:52,000 The truth will set you free. 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,800 Do I look like the kind of guy who'd start a fight? 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,900 Or finish one? 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,300 I teach Chaucer for God's sake. 56 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:01,400 I just wanted to get home with my daughter 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,500 and have dinner with my wife. 58 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:03,600 Guy cut me off. 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,500 Did you provoke him in any way, 60 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:07,200 flip him off, honk your horn? 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,900 Not until he swerved in front of me. 62 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:12,400 He blocked the road, wouldn't let me pass. 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,600 I honked. 64 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,300 I got out to talk to him 65 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,900 and... he just wentoff on me. 66 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:19,600 Why didn't you back up and drive away? 67 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,500 I would have. 68 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:21,900 But there was a car behind me. 69 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:22,800 I got blocked in. 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,400 You left your three-year-old in the car, Mr. Paulson. 71 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,800 I just wanted to talk to him. 72 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:30,400 I had no idea that he was going to attack me with a crowbar. 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Where did he get the crowbar? 74 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:34,300 He must've grabbed it from the back of his truck. 75 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,400 All right, walk me through exactly what happened 76 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,900 when you and Riggs got into this. 77 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:38,900 Is that what his name was? 78 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:39,900 Mark Riggs. 79 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:42,200 Oh. 80 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,500 He pushed me. 81 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:44,600 He started yelling. 82 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,100 And you pushed back. 83 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:47,500 Just to keep him away from me. 84 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,000 Why not get back in your car? 85 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,300 Mr. Paulson wasn't the aggressor here, Ms. Chase. 86 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:52,700 Under Indiana law, 87 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:53,900 he had no duty to retreat. 88 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,100 I waed to, believe me. 89 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:57,900 Then suddenly he's brandishing a crowbar, 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,200 slamming it at Courtney's window. 91 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,600 He shattered it into a million pieces. 92 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 I mean, thank God for safety glass. 93 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,700 At that point, I had no choice, 94 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:08,800 I had to protect her, fight back. 95 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,700 How did you get the crowbar away from him? 96 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:11,600 I don't know how. 97 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,100 I just went berserk. 98 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,500 Into another zone. 99 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:16,300 Managed to wrestle it away from him. 100 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,300 And then? 101 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,700 I told him to back off. 102 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:20,800 He just kept coming, so, uh... 103 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:22,000 I hit him. 104 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,800 How many times? Once. 105 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Just once? 106 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,000 Mm-hmm, in the head. 107 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:28,700 And then he just collapsed. 108 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:32,400 I just wanted to keep him away from Courtney. 109 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:40,500 Ms. Chase... 110 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Hi. Sarah Paulson. 111 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,700 Hi, Mrs. Paulson. 112 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:46,000 Are you releasing Greg? 113 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:47,800 Not tonight. 114 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,100 It wasn't his fault. He said that man attacked him. 115 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:51,500 We're looking into his story. 116 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:53,600 Mrs. Paulson, there's some things we need to clear up. 117 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,300 Please, just let him come home with me. 118 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:57,300 With us. 119 00:04:57,300 --> 00:04:58,900 I'll talk to my boss in the morning 120 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:01,200 and we'll decide then how to handle your husband's case. 121 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Then you'll let him go? 122 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,100 We have 72 hours to decide 123 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,100 whether to charge him or release him. 124 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Come on, sweetie. 125 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:20,400 You notify Riggs' family? 126 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,600 Yeah, we're looking for his next of kin. 127 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:24,500 Contact number in his wallet. 128 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:25,600 Linda Miller. 129 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,500 Just two guys driving home, huh? 130 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,200 Yeah, should've stayed in the car. 131 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,500 Yeah, he should've. 132 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:32,200 Let me know when you get the forensics. 133 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:35,400 An English professor with a nice wife 134 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,900 and a little kid. I know. 135 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:38,900 It's easier when they're scum. 136 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,100 They were pushing and shoving, 137 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:51,900 using the worst language. 138 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:53,800 Did you see either man with a weapon? 139 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:55,300 No, just their hands. 140 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:57,100 Then what happened? 141 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:59,000 I went back inside to call 911. 142 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,600 When I came out again, it was all over. 143 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,600 As I pulled up, they were getting out of their cars. 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,200 You know, bring it on. 145 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,600 Who got out first? 146 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,200 The guy in the pickup, I think. 147 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,500 But both of them were raring to go, 148 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:13,900 yelling, cursing. "What the hell are you doing?" 149 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:15,000 That type of a thing. 150 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,900 You didn't stick around? 151 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,300 Didn't seem that serious. 152 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:18,400 Just a couple of jerks 153 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,300 blowing off steam at the end of a hard day. 154 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:21,800 I did call 911. 155 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,000 I was listening to the news on the radio 156 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 and I heard a car window being smashed. 157 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,800 We've had some break-ins here recently, 158 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,000 so I found my glasses and I went outside. 159 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,800 How long would you say it took you to find your glasses? 160 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,400 Few minutes.They were upstairs. 161 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,400 I don't need them for the radio. 162 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:37,200 And then?When you went outside? 163 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,600 One man was laying on the ground, 164 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,500 another man was standing over him, holding a crowbar. 165 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,400 The man on the ground wasn't moving. 166 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:51,200 So where are you with the appeal? 167 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:52,400 Which? 168 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,600 The vehicular homicide, 169 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,000 the guy who killed Annabeth's husband. 170 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Trent Bishop. 171 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,900 Bishop. 172 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,900 I'm working on the reply brief. 173 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:00,400 Is it a formality 174 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 or does Bishop really have a chance? 175 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,600 Afraid so. 176 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:06,500 Breathalyzer hadn't been recalibrated. 177 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:07,300 You're kidding. 178 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:09,600 Plenty of precedent for granting him a new trial. 179 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:10,800 Does Annabeth know? 180 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,300 She asked me to keep her in the loop. 181 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:13,400 I'll show her the draft when I'm done. 182 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,100 Hopefully, we can get this thing thrown out. 183 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:16,500 I'd hate for her to have to relive 184 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,500 this whole ugly experience over a technicality. 185 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,200 The professor versus the carpenter. 186 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,400 So, self-defense or something else? 187 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Eyewitnessed testimony is inconclusive. 188 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,700 No one saw either man take the crowbar 189 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:32,900 from the back of Riggs' truck. 190 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:35,600 Paulson claims Riggs attacked him, smashed in his car window, 191 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,300 but forensics don't match. 192 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Riggs' fingerprints aren't on the crowbar. 193 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,400 But Paulson's are. 194 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Yeah, what you'd expect. 195 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,100 But he also struck Riggs twice. 196 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:46,000 The first blow broke Riggs' arm, trying to defend himself. 197 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,300 Paulson didn't need to strike the second lethal blow to the head; 198 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:49,700 he was no longer in danger. 199 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:50,900 If he had ever been. 200 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:53,400 We'll see how he defends himself against a murder charge. 201 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Street fights, road rage, not great witnesses, 202 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 wouldn't manslaughter be an easier charge to make? 203 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Charge high, leave yourself some room to negotiate. 204 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,900 We may need it. Our victim, Riggs, had a record. 205 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:04,600 DUI, misdemeanor assault. 206 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Assault? Yeah, a couple of years ago. 207 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,700 Some kind of scuffle at the county fair. 208 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:11,300 He'd pled guilty, 24 hours community service. 209 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:13,600 Let me guess, Professor Paulson has no record? 210 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,500 Not even an unpaid parking ticket. 211 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:17,700 Sympathetic defendant, unsympathetic victim. 212 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:19,200 Paulson may be sympathetic, 213 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,500 but the evidence says he's lying. 214 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,200 The second blow, the fingerprints. 215 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,700 Professor Paulson claims self-defense against a guy who's bigger than him, 216 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:28,100 has a record of assault and driving under the influence, 217 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:30,800 who cuts him off in traffic, confronts him on the street. 218 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:32,200 The jury might find that persuasive. 219 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,300 This case is going to come down to character. 220 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:35,800 Riggs v. Paulson. 221 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,600 From what I just heard, 222 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,500 Paulson's got it hands down. 223 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:51,200 ???? son, how do you plead? 224 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,200 Not guilty, Your Honor. 225 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,300 The defendant was acting in self-defense and to protect his child. 226 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,200 We ask he be released on his own recognizance. 227 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,800 This is a murder charge, Your Honor, 228 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,200 not a moving violation. 229 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,700 We ask the defendant be remanded. 230 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,700 Mr. Paulson has no criminal record,tenure at the university, 231 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:06,300 strong ties to the community. 232 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Bail is set at $200,000. Cash or bond. 233 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Thank you, Your Honor. 234 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,900 I'll see you downstairs. 235 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,000 So, why so adamant, Annabeth? 236 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,300 Paulson's hardly public enemy number one. 237 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:21,000 Mr. Paulson left a child he was supposedly trying to protect 238 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,200 in the car alone while he confronted Mr. Riggs. 239 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,000 That's what this is about? Leaving the kid in the car? 240 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,200 Forensics indicate Mr. Paulson was the aggressor. 241 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,900 He also lied to the police and this office 242 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:29,900 about what happened that night. 243 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:30,700 He didn't lie. 244 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:33,100 He gave contradictory statements under stress. 245 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:35,100 The lack of prints and the crowbar doesn't mean anything. 246 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:36,100 It will to a jury. 247 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:38,200 Your client picked up that crowbar, Paul. 248 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,100 He struck Mr. Riggs twice, not once. 249 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,900 The second time after disabling him. 250 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:43,400 There's no way this was self-defense. 251 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,500 Broken window in the mini-van? 252 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:45,700 Paulson broke the window himself. 253 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:48,500 Anyone see him do it? Didn't think so. 254 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,700 When you're ready to be reasonable, call me. 255 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:52,100 You'd be open to a deal? 256 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:54,300 Well, if it involves dropping the charges. 257 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,300 Have a nice day. 258 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:00,400 We need to paint a picture of these two men for the jury. 259 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,800 I'll take the dead guy, Riggs. 260 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,900 Let's talk to the guy he assaulted at the county fair. 261 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:05,900 See if his testimony will hurt us with the jury. 262 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:07,600 We ever reached that emergency contact? 263 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,200 DRUMMER: Linda Miller, his ex-wife. 264 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 See if she has anything nice to say about him. 265 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,600 His ex? I'm sure she won't have nice things to say about him. 266 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Mine does. 267 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:18,300 I didn't know you've been married. 268 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:19,600 Neither does she. 269 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,000 I'll look into Paulson, see if I can find out 270 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,400 what kind of family man he really is. 271 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 The kind who gets into a fight with his kid in the car. 272 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,900 We know why she was with him? 273 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:29,000 He just picked her up from day care in his way home. 274 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,500 All right, I'll check that out. 275 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:34,000 Mrs. Paulson, it would be nice if one of you could talk to her. 276 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,200 She and Annabeth already had a run-in, so I'll go. 277 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,500 Why would she even open the door? 278 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:39,500 She left her daughter's blanket at the precinct. 279 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,700 I know, it's a long shot. 280 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:45,000 Well, it might work. At least it's a reason to knock. 281 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:50,300 WOMAN: As fathers go, 282 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:51,500 he was pretty involved. 283 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:53,700 Picked up Courtney almost every day after work. 284 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:56,100 That day, what kind of mood was he in? 285 00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:58,000 Foul. He was running late. 286 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,500 It was getting dark. 287 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,900 I was anxious to lock up and go home. 288 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,100 He seemed stressed. 289 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,100 Courtney was cranky, she wanted to go home. 290 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,200 He raised his voice at me 291 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,600 like it was my fault she was the last here, not his. 292 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,300 Is he usually bad-tempered? 293 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:13,200 A lot. With everyone. 294 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Huh. Seems so mild mannered. 295 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Used to be. 296 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,300 He really changed a lot after his little boy died. 297 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,800 He lost a child? About a year ago. 298 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,300 Andrew. Three. 299 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,500 Beautiful boy. 300 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,300 Hit by a car right in front of their house. 301 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:33,100 Man, that's tough. Yeah. 302 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:34,100 Ever since that happened, 303 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:37,100 Mr. Paulson's just been mad at the world. 304 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:38,500 I would be. 305 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:40,900 Me, too. No question. 306 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,100 BLACKWELL: So tell me exactlywhat happened that day with this guy Riggs. 307 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:46,200 You're at the fair... 308 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,700 In line to get ice cream. 309 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:49,200 My kids are goofing around. 310 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,300 You know, not misbehaving, just rambunctious. 311 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Suddenly, this guy's going off on me. 312 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,500 Yelling, telling me to control my kids. 313 00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:59,500 Poking me in the chest with his finger. 314 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:01,600 The kids start screaming and crying. 315 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,300 It was a scene. Spoiled the day. 316 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:05,700 So you pressed charges. 317 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:07,100 I thought twice about it. 318 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:08,700 I heard he pled to a misdemeanor, 319 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:10,900 so tempers stay in the tea pot, huh? 320 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:12,600 You say you thought twice about it. 321 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,800 His ex-wife called me, asked me to cut the guy a break. 322 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,700 Said he'd been going through a rough time. 323 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,000 She say why? 324 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,900 No. I didn't ask. 325 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,100 My husband's lawyer says I shouldn't talk to you people. 326 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:28,200 Mr. Boscoe's right. 327 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 We can't compel you to talk to us about anything 328 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,000 your husband might have told you that night. 329 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,300 It's privileged. 330 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,500 But I thought you might want to talk about Greg in general. 331 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,200 Why would I want to do that? 332 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:40,800 We've been told your husband's 333 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,900 been mad at the world since your son died. 334 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,000 He's been upset. I have, too. 335 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 We just... deal with it differently. 336 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,900 I thought you might want to soften the picture of him a little. 337 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,700 Why would you want to? 338 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:55,400 You're prosecuting him for murder. 339 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,000 We're not monsters,Mrs. Paulson. 340 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,900 We want to know what really happened that night. 341 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:01,900 Maybe this whole tragedy doesn't have to end with a trial. 342 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,000 MRS. PAULSON: Greg has been depressed. 343 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Distant. 344 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,700 I can understand how people think he has a temper. 345 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:16,800 He is angry,but not at the world. 346 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,800 He... blames himself for what happened. 347 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Why? What happened? 348 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:27,800 I wasn't home. 349 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,800 I had taken Courtney and gone shopping. 350 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,500 They were out in the yard playing. 351 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,500 Andrew ran into the street. 352 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:41,100 I'm so sorry. 353 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,200 I can't imagine what that must feel like. 354 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:46,600 There are mornings you don't think 355 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,500 you can get out of bed and face the day. 356 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,800 But... we have Courtney, so we have to. 357 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,000 I mean, it's good. 358 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,400 She gives us both a reason to go on. 359 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,900 The day after he died, I hadn't read the paper, 360 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:07,600 no one phoned me yet. 361 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,900 So I picked up the telephone 362 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:11,100 to ask him to come over and help the trim the hedges. 363 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:13,500 You stayed close, even after your divorce? 364 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:14,800 Closer, actually. 365 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,600 We'd spent yearswatching Jenny die. 366 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 That's not an experience anyone can ever understand. 367 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Jenny? Our daughter.Leukemia. 368 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,300 She was five when she got sick and nine when she died. 369 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,300 After she died, I went to bed for five months 370 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,200 an 371 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Right. 372 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Anyway, ever time I looked at Mark, 373 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:51,200 all I could see was Jenny, 374 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,400 When did you two...? 375 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,000 After the divorce, Mark got involved 376 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 with a support group for grieving parents, 377 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,000 pulled himself together. 378 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,300 He called me to see how I was doing, 379 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:49,800 and we started talking again. 380 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,100 We heard he had some trouble-- 381 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:53,000 DUI, scuffle at the county fair. 382 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,900 All that was the year 383 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:55,700 after Jenny died, but he'd changed. 384 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:57,700 This group had really helped him. 385 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,100 That's why I was so surprised 386 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,500 to hear he had been in this fight. 387 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:01,900 You know where this support group meets? 388 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:03,400 Over at St. Stevens. 389 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Jesse Abrams, he's the leader. 390 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:09,000 I was sick when I heard what happened to Mark. 391 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:10,800 You knew him 392 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:14,100 We spoke at length probably four times a week 393 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:15,700 for the past year and a half. 394 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,600 I got to know Mark inside and out. 395 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,700 His ex says you really helped turn him around. 396 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:21,100 She gives me too much credit. 397 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:22,800 Mark turned himself around. 398 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Threw himself into this work, heart and soul. 399 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,800 His way of mourning Jenny. 400 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:29,100 Threw himself into it? 401 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,600 Her counseled other parents, 402 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,800 did outreach work for us at local hospitals... 403 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,300 He was good at it? 404 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:37,000 He'd been through it himself. 405 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,700 He could talk to parent who'd just been told his or her child had died. 406 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:42,100 That's not easy. 407 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,200 What would he tell them? 408 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,000 He'd stay with them, comfort them, 409 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,400 contact them a few days or weeks later, 410 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,100 tell them about the group, 411 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,300 ask them if they'd like to come to a meeting. 412 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,800 You keep records of those meetings? 413 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,500 Regular members and guests. 414 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,200 I can fax it to you. 415 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,000 What about the people he counseled? 416 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,800 That list I can give you right now. 417 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,600 I'll be damned. 418 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,900 Greg Paulson? 419 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,100 Riggs counseled him after his son died. 420 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,200 So Paulson lied about knowing Riggs. 421 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,700 He's been lying from the get-go. 422 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:21,300 They certainly weren't total strangers. 423 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:22,500 After they met at the hospital, 424 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,100 Riggs invited him to the grief group. 425 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:25,100 June of last year, 426 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,500 Paulson went to two meetings at St. Stevens. 427 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:29,900 I pulled a police report on the accident. 428 00:16:29,900 --> 00:16:32,700 Paulson and his son were playing hide-and-seek on the front lawn. 429 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,600 He lost sight of his son for a few seconds 430 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,000 and the kid ran out into the street and got hit by a car. 431 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,300 Sad story. 432 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:40,300 Think they might try to use it with the jury? 433 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:42,300 How is that relevant to a self-defense claim? 434 00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:43,600 State of mind. 435 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,700 However, if he did... 436 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,500 They might take pity on him and forgive him 437 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,400 for the inconsistencies in his story. Inconsistencies? 438 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,500 Under those circumstances, 439 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,600 going in front of a jury could be dodgy. 440 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,100 Maybe we could use the lie to leverage Paulson 441 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,500 to take a manslaughter plea. 442 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,200 We haven't even scratched the surface here. 443 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Why would Paulson kill a guy 444 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,000 who was trying to help him mourn his son's death? 445 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,800 If we could find out 446 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,000 what they were really fighting about that night, 447 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,200 we'd have a motive to support the murder charge. 448 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,200 If we could, we might or we might not. 449 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Offer Paulson voluntary manslaughter and let's put this to bed. 450 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,700 Your client lied to us, Paul. 451 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,900 He knew Mark Riggs. 452 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:24,500 You can keep accusing him of that. 453 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,500 He didn't lie, just didn't mention it. 454 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,900 How is it relevant? 455 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:31,000 It's still a road rage incident,whether they knew each other or not. 456 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,100 I thought we were here to talk about a plea. 457 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:35,300 Voluntary manslaughter, ten years. 458 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:37,400 Four suspended for mitigating circumstances. 459 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,900 Voluntary man, ten years, two suspended. 460 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,400 Eight years, Greg. 461 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,000 Make parole, you'll be out in four. 462 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,100 Done. 463 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:52,500 Tell me what happened that night. 464 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,400 We knew each other from the grief group, that's true. 465 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,800 But I hadn't seen Mark in months. 466 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 When he got out of the car, he looked familiar, 467 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,900 but I barely remembered him. 468 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,200 It was dark and it wasn't until afterwards 469 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,000 that I realized that it was him. 470 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:07,700 What were you and Riggs fighting about? 471 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:08,900 Well, it happened like I said. 472 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:10,500 He cut me off. I don't know why. 473 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,700 You're still claiming this was a traffic altercation? 474 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:14,700 Maybe he was irate 475 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:15,800 because I honked my horn at him. 476 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,600 All I know is that he came at me with a crowbar 477 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,600 and smashed my window. 478 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,000 I had to defend myself and my daughter. 479 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,200 You told us you hit him once. 480 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,900 The coroner's report is irrefutable. 481 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:26,700 I don't remember hitting him the second time. 482 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:29,600 I was in a state, I was fighting for our lives. 483 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,200 You were enraged. I was scared to death? 484 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Even if that were true, Mr. Paulson, 485 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,400 your first blow broke his arm. 486 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 You were in no danger when you struck the lethal blow. 487 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,400 I didn't know that. 488 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:42,500 I don't believe you. You're a liar. 489 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:43,800 Annabeth, that's uncalled for. 490 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,400 You've lied to us from the beginning and you're lying now. 491 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,700 That's my story. 492 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:49,500 That's the story that I've told all a long, 493 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:51,200 and that's the only story that I'm going to tell. 494 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,000 Really? Well, then, we have a problem, 495 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,700 because I'm not going to let you lie to the judge. 496 00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:57,000 Annabeth, please, we can make this deal. 497 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,900 Last chance, Mr. Paulson. 498 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:00,800 I already told you. If that's a challenge, 499 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,200 I'll take it. 500 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,100 And you'll be sorry I did. 501 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,600 ???? 502 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,000 I thought his proffer was line, 503 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,500 I didn't think Judge Lathrop would accept it. 504 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:12,400 He would have accepted it. 505 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,300 I accepted it, Paulson accept it.Everyone but you. 506 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,900 I don't feel comfortable settling with no idea of what really happened. 507 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:19,600 Your job isn't to know what really happened. 508 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,500 Your job is to accurately assess the strength of case. 509 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:24,900 Ambiguous evidence, inconclusive witnesses, 510 00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:27,400 sympathetic defendant, semi-sympathetic victim. 511 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,300 This wasn't road rage. 512 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:29,900 They were fighting about something more important. 513 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,000 You don't know that. I'm trying to find out. 514 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,500 We got permission from Riggs' ex-wife to search his apartment. 515 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,300 Ed and Ray can go over there right now. 516 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,300 You have two days to show me something, 517 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:42,700 otherwise we go back to Boscoe and we make the deal. 518 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:43,600 Two days. 519 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Okay. 520 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,800 ?????They look like they were happy. 521 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Family pictures always look happy. 522 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,200 Right-- who hangs the ones where everyone looks miserable? 523 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:04,600 His daughter dies,his whole life changes. 524 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:06,500 The death of a child rocks your world. 525 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:09,200 Drinking,assault arrest, losing his wife. 526 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,400 It's like a punishment. 527 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,200 What did he do other than have a kid who got sick? Nothing. 528 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,600 He made something out of it in the end. 529 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,500 The support group. 530 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Look at these. 531 00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:26,200 Recognize the names? 532 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Recognize this one. Paulson. 533 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,100 Must be the people he counseled. 534 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:35,100 This is all about the Paulson's son. 535 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:38,400 Name, birthday,anniversary of death, 536 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,100 favorite food, toys. 537 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Pictures. 538 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:46,300 Sarah Paulson. 539 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:48,300 Maybe Riggs counseled her, too. 540 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,900 Maybe. 541 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,500 He must have. 542 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:54,500 They went to Calvary Cemetery together, 543 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:55,800 where Andrew Paulson's buried. 544 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000 Almost every Tuesday for the past year. 545 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,600 Almost every week. Regulars. 546 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,600 What was their routine? 547 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,300 What would they do? 548 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:05,900 Go to the gravesite for a while, 549 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:09,100 sit, hold hands, maybe walk around, talk. 550 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,500 Sometimes they'd even pack a picnic lunch, spend the afternoon. 551 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,900 What was your impression of their relationship? 552 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:15,700 Really good. 553 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:17,700 Better than most couples grieving a child. 554 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,500 You thought they were a couple? 555 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,900 The parents? Yeah. Definitely. 556 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 They told you that? 557 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 You can tell. 558 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 They'd touch, console each other, 559 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,000 and they always came together. 560 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,100 Together? A lot of parents come alone. 561 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,300 Grieve separately. 562 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:33,200 It's too painful for them to be together. 563 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,200 They blame each other or whatever. 564 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:38,500 These two were definitely helping the other one get through this. 565 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,900 Weekly visits to a cemetery hardly prove 566 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:45,900 Mark Riggs and Sarah Paulson were having an affair. 567 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:48,200 They talked on the phone several times a day for months. 568 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,900 And according to Mark Riggs' calendar, 569 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,900 they also met in restaurants, coffeeshops, 570 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:53,300 even his apartment occasionally. 571 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:54,500 He was counseling her. 572 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,200 Oh, is that what they're calling it these days? 573 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,700 Greg Paulson was so distraught over his son's death, 574 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:00,300 he temporarily checked out of the marriage, 575 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:02,200 and Sarah needed someone to confide in. 576 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Riggs. 577 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,400 They fell in love. 578 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,300 I'm still not making the leap. 579 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,200 Look at the timeline of the phone calls. 580 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,900 Riggs meets Paulson at the hospital 581 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,300 Riggs brings Paulson to two grief group meetings at St. Stevens. 582 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:16,700 That's where their relationship ends. 583 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,700 No more meetings, no more phone calls. 584 00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:20,300 between Riggs' and Paulson's office. 585 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:22,300 But for the first time a few weeks after that, 586 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:25,500 Riggs calls up Paulson's home and talks to someone there for almost an hour. 587 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:28,300 And you think he talked to Sarah Paulson, why? 588 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:30,300 Riggs never calls up Paulson's home number again, 589 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:32,800 only Sarah's cell phone, which he calls all the time. 590 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,900 Until this day, 591 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:35,400 shortly before the murder, 592 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,700 when the connection between Sarah and Riggs ends. 593 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:40,200 One of them broke it off. Or Paulson found out. 594 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,000 An affair? What else could it be? 595 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,200 They obviously were trying to keep their relationship secret from her husband. 596 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,400 And that's what Riggs and Paulson fought about that night? 597 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,400 I think so. 598 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,900 I want to talk to Sarah, ask her about it under oath. 599 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 All right. Depose her. 600 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,000 I lied because I didn't want to cause Greg any more trouble. 601 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:00,300 You were having an affair 602 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,100 with the man your husband killed, and you knew how that would look. 603 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:04,400 Could you not call it that, please? 604 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,700 What would you call it? 605 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,200 A friendship. 606 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,300 We have phone records, photos of the two of you together, 607 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:13,100 notes of the times you met at the cemetery, his apartment. 608 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,700 I know that it looks like an affair, but it wasn't. 609 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:18,000 Well, whatever it was, how did it start? 610 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:22,100 Mark called the house, looking for Greg. 611 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,500 I told him Greg didn't want to continue going to group. 612 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:27,200 He said he understood that, 613 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,200 and then he asked how I was doing. 614 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,500 And that just opened the floodgates. 615 00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:35,100 We talked about Andrew. 616 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:36,800 Greg and I weren't talking about Andrew, 617 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,100 or anything else for that matter. 618 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:39,800 And Mark Riggs understood? 619 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 He had lost a daughter and a marriage. 620 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,000 He knew exactly what I was going through. 621 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:48,800 That was the beginning. 622 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Did your husband know about this relationship with Mark? 623 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,200 He knew we were spending a lot of time together. 624 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,200 He knew Mark and I were close. 625 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,900 He asked me to break it off with him. 626 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,900 Is that why you stopped seeing each other? 627 00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:06,700 My relationship with Mark was so intense. 628 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:12,300 At a certain point, I felt I was betraying Greg, 629 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,200 so I told Mark I wanted to tryand get my marriage back. 630 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,600 What did he say? 631 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,700 He said he was in love with me, 632 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600 but for Courtney's sake and for mine... 633 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,500 he hoped that Greg and I could work things through. 634 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,800 I really thought he was okay with it. 635 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,500 Do you believe Mark Riggs confronted your husband that night? 636 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,500 I think when I rejected him, 637 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,300 Mark sought Greg out and attacked him 638 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:40,800 and put our daughter in danger, 639 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,000 and I feel responsible. 640 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,300 If I hadn't spent so much time with Mark... 641 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,400 Mark never touched that crowbar, Sarah. 642 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:50,000 Your husband is lying to you. 643 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:54,800 ANNABETH: We know what your client 644 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,300 and Mark Riggs were really fighting about that night: 645 00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,300 Sarah Paulson. 646 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,700 Ah, yes, Mark Riggs-- Sarah Paulson's spurned suitor. 647 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:03,000 (laughing): Spurned suitor? 648 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,500 Did you pick up a few new phrases 649 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,400 from one of Professor Paulson's classes? 650 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,900 Mark Riggs was in love with Sarah, but she wasn't in love with him. I beg to differ. 651 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,300 I talked to the woman;it's obvious how she felt about him. 652 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:13,500 And she told you what? 653 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,300 They were just friends. 654 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:16,500 Exactly. 655 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,600 Riggs fell in love with her. It was unrequited. 656 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,400 He attacked my client in a rage. 657 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400 My client knew nothing of Riggs' obsession with his wife 658 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,800 until Riggs attacked him that night. 659 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,400 Oh, please. 660 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400 He knew they were having some kind of relationship. 661 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,700 He asked Sarah not to continue it. 662 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,200 That in itself would convince a jury he knew they were having an affair. 663 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,500 You don't believe they were having an affair. 664 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,000 It doesn't matter what I believe. 665 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,800 It matters what Greg Paulson believed, 666 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,400 and if he believed his wife was having an affair 667 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,100 with Mark Riggs, it explains y he attacked and killed him that night. 668 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:43,100 What really matters is what the jury believes. 669 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,400 Mr paulson told the police 670 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,900 he was attacked by a stranger with a crowbar. 671 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,200 This is a lie. 672 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,900 In fact, he knew the victim Mark Riggs quite intimately. 673 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,000 Mr. Riggs had counseled him over the death of his son, 674 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,500 and then Mr. Riggs counseled Sarah Paulson. 675 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800 The evidence will show that Greg Paulson believed 676 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Mark Riggs was having an affair with his wife. 677 00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,700 Mark Riggs did not attack Greg Paulson with that crowbar. 678 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:16,200 It was the other way around. 679 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,300 What Greg Paulson did 680 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:21,100 was not self-defense. 681 00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:23,300 It was murder. 682 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,500 This case is about one thing: 683 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,600 whether Greg Paulson was legally justified in defending himself 684 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,400 and his daughter from Mr. Riggs' attack. 685 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:38,700 Mr. Paulson wasn't jealous of a love affair between Mark Riggs and Sarah Paulson 686 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,500 because there wasn't one. 687 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,200 Mark Riggs loved Sarah Paulson, 688 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,300 but she did not love him back, not in that way. 689 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,900 This isn't about a jealous husband. 690 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,800 It was Mark Riggs who was jealous-- 691 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 jealous of the Paulsons' marriage, 692 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,500 resentful that a woman he had cared about and had helped 693 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,900 and had fallen in love with was not going to leave her husband for him. 694 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,500 You will hear from Sarah Paulson, 695 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,100 who will tell you about the exact nature of her relationship with Mark Riggs. 696 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,500 You'll hear from an expert witness, 697 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:12,600 who will shed light on Greg Paulson's state of mind 698 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 the night Mark Riggs attacked him. 699 00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:18,700 And you'll hear from the one person 700 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:21,000 who knows exactly what happened that night. 701 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,000 Greg Paulson will tell you himself 702 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,500 the fear he felt when Mark Riggs took that crowbar 703 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,200 and smashed that window, 704 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,900 spraying glass on his three-year-old daughter. 705 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:35,800 The question in this case is not why Greg Paulson responded as he did that night. 706 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,800 It is how we would judge a father 707 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,900 who did not. 708 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,300 BOSCOE: What did your husband tell you 709 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,100 when he called you the night of the incident? 710 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:52,300 He said Mark had attacked him. 711 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:53,300 Did he say why? 712 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:54,900 He wanted me to leave my husband. 713 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,300 That's what Greg said. 714 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:58,800 When did you end your friendship with Mr. Riggs? 715 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,300 A few days before he attacked Greg. 716 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:02,600 So you broke off your relationship 717 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,200 with Mr. Riggs, and a few days later, 718 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,800 he attacked your husband with a crowbar? 719 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Objection. 720 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:08,700 Sustained. 721 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,300 ANNABETH: After your son died, 722 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,300 Mark Riggs counseled your husband. 723 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,100 Briefly. 724 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,000 He went to a few meetings, 725 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 but, um, he wasn't interested in Mark's help. 726 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,000 But you were. 727 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Mark helped me a lot. 728 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,500 Did the two of you fall in love? 729 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:31,300 Yes. 730 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:33,100 Did you have an affair? 731 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,700 It wasn't an affair. 732 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,500 We became very close friends. 733 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,000 very close friends 734 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,800 which meant you spent a lot of time together? 735 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,200 Um, I don't know. 736 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,300 How many times a week did you see Mr. Riggs? Three or four. 737 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,600 How often did you speak to him on the phone? Every day. 738 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:50,700 Every day? 739 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:52,000 Yes. 740 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Did you ever visit your son's graveside with Mr. Riggs? 741 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,500 Yes. 742 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,500 Every week, in fact. 743 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:04,300 You met him in coffeeshops, bars, at his apartment, 744 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,100 and all behind your husband's back. 745 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,400 SARAH: I needed a friend. 746 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,300 Mark helped me grieve, but that's all it was. 747 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:12,800 It wasn't an affair. 748 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,700 Do you think it may have been construed as an affair? 749 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 That's what you seem to have done. What about your husband? 750 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Wouldn't it have looked like an affair to him? 751 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:22,900 No. 752 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,000 Well, then, why keep it a secret? 753 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,600 And when your husband did find out you'd been spending so much time with Mr. Riggs? 754 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,000 When he found out, 755 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,100 he said he'd rather I didn't. 756 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:39,100 He specifically asked you not to see Mark Riggs anymore? 757 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,700 Yes. 758 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,500 And did you do as he asked? Yes. 759 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,100 And when you ended the relationship with Mark Riggs, what was his reaction? 760 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200 He was disappointed. 761 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200 He said he was in love with me. 762 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000 Sarah, did he seem angry? 763 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,000 No. 764 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:54,500 What did he say? 765 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:02,000 He said he hoped I could save my marriage. 766 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,200 No further questions. 767 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:11,800 BOSCOE: Dr. Eaton, 768 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,100 what did you hope to glean from your interview with Professor Paulson? 769 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,300 An understanding of his cognitive abilities 770 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,900 and of his personal history as they might relate 771 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,400 to the night of his conflict with Mr. Riggs. 772 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,600 And what did you conclude? 773 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,900 That there was an aspect 774 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,900 of his personal history that very well may have induced 775 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,000 in him a reasonable fear for his life 776 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,700 and for the life of his child. 777 00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:33,800 And what aspect of his past are you referring to? 778 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,200 The death of his son Andrew a little more than a year ago. 779 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Objection. Relevance? 780 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,400 This experience is absolutely relevant 781 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,700 to Mr. Paulson's claim of self-defense. 782 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 It framed his perception of the event and what was happening. 783 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,500 Sidebar, Your Honor. 784 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,600 I think chambers instead. 785 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,100 What are you pulling, Mr. Boscoe? 786 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,300 Marching a dead child in front of my jury. 787 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:55,600 That's not my intention, Your Honor. 788 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,900 What is your intention? 789 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,000 Establish Mr. Paulson's state of mind. 790 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200 How does the child's death do that? 791 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Mr. Paulson witnessed his son's death. 792 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,600 When Mr. Riggs drove that crowbar into the window, 793 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,900 spraying glass on Mr. Paulson's three-year-old daughter, 794 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,000 his experience shaped his perception of that act 795 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,500 as a threat to his daughter's life. 796 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,900 The details of Andrew Paulson's death are irrelevant. 797 00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:16,700 Allowing Mr. Boscoe to garnish his defense with them would be improper, 798 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:18,400 a naked appeal for jury sympathy. 799 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Brand v. State of Indiana. 800 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,300 A self-defense case where the court ruled admissible 801 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,700 testimony about prior events that formed the basis 802 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:25,600 of the defendant's fear. 803 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,800 In Brand, those events were things the defendant knew about the victim's past, 804 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,100 not events completely unconnected to the victim. 805 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,900 They were admitted to establish the defendant's perception. 806 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,400 That's all that matters here. 807 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,700 If Mr. Paulson is still taking the stand, 808 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:42,100 Mr. Boscoe, I agree with you, 809 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,000 but I will not allow the jury to hear 810 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,600 theoretical testimony without hearing about those experiences directly. 811 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600 He still intends to testify, Your Honor. 812 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,900 Then I will allow the jury 813 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,300 to hear about his son's death, solely 814 00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:58,800 as it relates to his state of mind at the time of the fight. 815 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:05,600 Lathrop bought that? 816 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,500 Guess he figures it's better than being reversed on appeal. 817 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,800 It's clearly a bid for jury sympathy. 818 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,400 The question is how to counter it. 819 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,500 I'm not sure we do. 820 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,800 Maybe we ignore it. 821 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400 Let the jury see it for the cynical text that it is, 822 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,800 and hammer Paulson 823 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,300 with the fingerprints, the witnesses, the affair, 824 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,400 his own admissions and inconsistencies. 825 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,000 We have to go right at him. 826 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 I mean, who knows how he's going to twist the story to convince the jury? 827 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,500 Maureen, he's lied about everything else. 828 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,100 He's probably going to lie about that. 829 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,300 I've read the police report.???? 830 00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,000 I'm going to show it to Ed and Ray. 831 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Have them go over to the Paulsons 832 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,900 and walk through the accident, talk to the witnesses. 833 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,800 I'm not letting Paulson use his son's death like this. 834 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,100 You sure? 835 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,300 Never forget it. 836 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,000 That poor little boy. 837 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:53,700 And Mr. Paulson? 838 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,200 I didn't see him. 839 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,100 He wasn't there? 840 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100 Not then. 841 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,900 A few minutes later, out in the street, 842 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,800 we were all there. 843 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,400 Driver of the car was crying. 844 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,700 Everybody was calling 911. 845 00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:07,700 We had to call an ambulance. 846 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,400 All right. Thanks, ma'am. 847 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:13,500 If she was standing there, 848 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,000 didn't see him on the front lawn,where was he? 849 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:17,600 Next-door neighbor also says 850 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,100 she didn't see him out in the yard. 851 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200 It's not much, but it could be something. 852 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,100 Paulson told the patrol officer on the scene 853 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,300 he was on the front lawn. 854 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:29,300 Saw Andrew running into the street. 855 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,900 But neither of the witnesses saw Paulson on the lawn 856 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,700 and they both had a clear view of the accident. 857 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:34,500 You think he's lying? 858 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,000 Of course he's lying. Then where was he? 859 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,900 Well, let's assume that Paulson made a mistake 860 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:41,400 the day his son died and then lied to the police about it. 861 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,500 If he did, it's a good bet he couldn't tell his wife the truth. 862 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,600 So how do we prove it unless he told someone the truth? 863 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,700 Maybe he told Riggs at the hospital immediately after Andrew's death. 864 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:53,600 Would Riggs have told anyone? 865 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,300 His ex-wife, maybe? 866 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,700 Jesse Abrams, the grief counselor at St. Stevens. 867 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,100 But he didn't remember Paulson. 868 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,800 He didn't recognize his picture. 869 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,300 He wouldn't have to remember Paulson, 870 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,100 he just has to remember the story. 871 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,100 I can't reveal names. 872 00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:11,200 But, uh, tell me what you know, 873 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,100 I'll see what I remember. Fair enough. 874 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,300 About a year ago, a man's playing hide-and-seek on his front lawn with his son. 875 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:17,700 Boy runs into the street, 876 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,800 father says he watched him get hit by the car. 877 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,200 Happened out in Shadyside, right? 878 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,500 Yeah. I remember Mark 879 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:26,000 telling me that story. 880 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,100 Do you remember the details? 881 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,900 Of the hide-and-seek story? No. 882 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,400 'Cause that wasn't the story. 883 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,000 What do you mean, "that wasn't the story"? 884 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600 That was the lie the father told people. 885 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,600 He told Mark the truth, that's why Mark talked to me about it. 886 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,900 People lie to each other about a lot things when a child dies. 887 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,000 You grabbed the crowbar from Mark Riggs 888 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,000 I struck him. 889 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,700 How many times? Twice. 890 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,600 I hit him the first time, he kept coming. 891 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,300 I hit him again, he went down. 892 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,400 Why did Mark Riggs attack you that night? 893 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600 He said he was in love with my wife. 894 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,900 So, he blocked the road and confronted you. 895 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,500 Yes. What did you think was happening? 896 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:13,500 I was scared. 897 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:14,500 I knew he was angry. 898 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,600 I thought he was stalking me. 899 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,700 You felt threatened. 900 00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,500 Very. We argued. 901 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,800 He smashed the window of my car. 902 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,500 My daughter was inches away. 903 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,900 How did you react to that? She was terrified. 904 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,600 I needed to protect her. 905 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,100 I kept having an image of Andrew... 906 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,400 running into the street. 907 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Right before he was... 908 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,000 struck by a car. 909 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:42,500 And how is Andrew relevant to what we're discussing today? 910 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,700 He was killed by a car last year 911 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,600 when he was three years old. 912 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,600 How did that happen? 913 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,800 We were playing hide-and-seek in the front yard. 914 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,400 His turn to hide. 915 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,800 I closed my eyes not ten seconds. 916 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,600 And then when I opened them, 917 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,900 he was running into the street. 918 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,500 And a car was coming right at him. 919 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,700 I saw it hit him. 920 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200 I watched my son die. 921 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:16,900 Why did you think of this tragedy 922 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,400 when Mark Riggs smashed the window of your car? 923 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:21,500 Simple. 924 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:24,600 I thought I was about to lose another child. 925 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,600 Mr. Paulson, 926 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,200 you saw the car hit your son. Is that right? 927 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,000 Yes. Are you familiar with the police report? 928 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,700 I know there is one. I haven't seen it. 929 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,700 "We were playing hide-and-seek. 930 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,800 "I had my eyes closed when I heard 931 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,100 "the screech of the car's brakes. 932 00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:54,700 I opened my eyes and saw the car hit Andrew." 933 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:57,000 He wrote it down. Guess I said it. 934 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Where were you playing hide-and-seek? 935 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,400 The front lawn. 936 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200 Is your front lawn visible from your neighbor's property? 937 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,300 Yes. Two of your neighbors 938 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,400 witnessed the accident that killed your son. 939 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,200 They both told the police 940 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000 they didn't see you on your lawn that day. 941 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,100 I'm not sure I get your point. 942 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,900 Mr. Paulson, where were you when Andrew was hit? 943 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:20,000 On the front lawn. No, you weren't. 944 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,900 And Mark Riggs knew it. He knew your secret. 945 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,800 Isn't that why he confronted you that night? 946 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,600 Objection, Your Honor, facts not in evidence, 947 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600 badgering the witness, I could go on and on. 948 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,800 No need, Mr. Boscoe, sustained. 949 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,000 Mr. Paulson, where were you 950 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,200 when your son was killed? 951 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,100 BOSCOE: Asked and answered. 952 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:36,700 LATHROP: Sustained. 953 00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:39,300 You told Mark Riggs, you were on the phone. 954 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:43,000 I never told Riggs that. Jesse Abrams will testify that you did. 955 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,300 We went back and pulled your phone records from that day. 956 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,300 You were on the phone at the exact moment 957 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,600 your son was hit by that car. 958 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:55,800 I... 959 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,200 ...I thought it might be Sarah, 960 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,200 so I ran inside to grab the phone. 961 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,300 I-I wasn't gone a minute. 962 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,800 Is that when you heard the screech of the brakes? 963 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,200 From inside your house? 964 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:13,500 Yes. 965 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,700 You couldn't tell your wife the truth, could you? 966 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,100 But Mark Riggs was going to. 967 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,700 Voluntary manslaughter, ten years. 968 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,500 Mitigation? That deal disappeared. 969 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,100 Paul, he does all ten. 970 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Do you have kids? 971 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,900 One, daughter. 972 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:47,200 We have three. 973 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,500 You ever get distracted, maybe lose sight of her for a few seconds? 974 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:51,900 Of course. 975 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,100 What happened to him could happen to any of us. 976 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,900 Yeah. 977 00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:00,100 But how he reacted to it... 978 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,700 that was a choice. 979 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:03,400 Yeah. 980 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,800 Riggs asked me to tell 981 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,600 Sarah the truth about Andrew's death. 982 00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:16,400 He said he loved Sarah, 983 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,800 and she deserved to know, 984 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,500 so she could go forward with her life, 985 00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:24,200 knowing the truth. 986 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,000 That's why he confronted me that night. 987 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,800 To give me an ultimatum. 988 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:35,200 Either I tell Sarah the truth 989 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,400 or he would. 990 00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:40,600 I knew I couldn't. 991 00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:45,700 I was afraid that she would never forgive me. 992 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,100 I was afraid that she would leave me for him. 993 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,000 I grabbed the crowbar from his truck and hit him. 994 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,100 I took Courtney out of the car 995 00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,100 and broke the window 996 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,100 to make it look like he had attacked us. 997 00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,600 I'm so sorry. 998 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:31,700 My reply to the Bishop brief. 999 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:33,800 You still want to read it? 1000 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000 That was our deal, right? 1001 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,600 Every painful detail. 1002 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,400 The gist of his appeal: he's claiming 1003 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,400 the Breathalyzer hadn't be calibrated 1004 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600 in over six months, which violates the statute. 1005 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,300 Do we know if that's true? 1006 00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:52,400 Police department's having a hard time tracking down 1007 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200 the certificate to prove otherwise. 1008 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,600 If they can't find it, is Bishop's conviction automatically overturned? 1009 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,300 Not automatic,but... likely. 1010 00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,800 Ed's still chasing the certificate. 1011 00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,800 You mind if I read this like a lawyer? 1012 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,000 Just keep in mind I wrote it like one. 1013 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,300 It may be hard to see 1014 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,400 Jack's death reduced to legalese. 1015 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:13,600 I'll try. 1016 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,500 How'd the sentencing go? 1017 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,100 Lathrop ignored our recommendation 1018 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,500 and gave him six years instead of ten. 1019 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:25,100 Lathrop doesn't do that. Sarah Paulson asked him to show mercy, 1020 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:28,000 convinced him her husband was a good person before their son died. 1021 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,800 You're unhappy with the sentencing. 1022 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,600 Mark Riggs was a good person, too, 1023 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,800 before his child died and when he was killed. 1024 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,000 Like Jack. 1025 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,000 Like Jack. 1026 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200 It's hard for judges and juries. 1027 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,900 They see the living defendant in front of them, 1028 00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:45,700 ???? 1029 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:47,800 who's a good man, basically. 1030 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800 Wife, family... 1031 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,100 They have a hard time remembering the victim 1032 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,000 who's dead and buried. 1033 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,900 I remember. 1034 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,800 I know. 1035 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:18,000 welcome to www.1000fr.com 1036 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,000 www.tvsubtitles.net 1037 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Downloaded From www.AllSubs.org 1038 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:17,600 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 77863

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