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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Downloaded From www.AllSubs.org 2 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,212 Will the defendant please rise? 3 00:00:32,139 --> 00:00:35,940 In the matter of the state of Indiana vs. David Hopkins on the charge of murder, 4 00:00:35,975 --> 00:00:37,627 the jury finds the defendant 5 00:00:37,628 --> 00:00:38,841 not guilty. 6 00:00:45,087 --> 00:00:46,236 Thank you. 7 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,616 Get help! 8 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:48,760 No, no. We're still trying to find out what the hell happened. 9 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:50,650 I'll let you know. 10 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:53,600 Doug Hellman is listed serious, kelly Joffe is critical. 11 00:01:53,617 --> 00:01:54,830 Annabeth is on her way to the hospital now. 12 00:01:54,841 --> 00:01:56,486 She and Joffe were classmates? 13 00:01:56,499 --> 00:01:58,747 Law school, and you know how close Annabeth and Hellman are. 14 00:01:58,752 --> 00:01:59,846 What about the shooter? 15 00:01:59,859 --> 00:02:01,683 Bob Peters, already been arrested. 16 00:02:01,695 --> 00:02:02,630 I was afraid of that. 17 00:02:02,647 --> 00:02:04,782 He didn't like the verdict, so he got himself a gun. 18 00:02:05,107 --> 00:02:07,213 What would you do if your son in law killed your daughter 19 00:02:07,216 --> 00:02:08,502 and the jury let him walk? 20 00:02:08,538 --> 00:02:11,551 I'd be tempted to shoot the son of a bitch and his lawyers. 21 00:02:11,566 --> 00:02:12,910 This mess is our fault. 22 00:02:12,927 --> 00:02:13,770 How so? 23 00:02:13,785 --> 00:02:16,330 If we'd have convicted Hopkins, none of this would have happened. 24 00:02:22,266 --> 00:02:24,740 Excuse me, Doug Hellman and Kelly Joffe? 25 00:02:24,757 --> 00:02:25,830 Are you family? 26 00:02:25,847 --> 00:02:27,643 The prosecuting attorney's office. 27 00:02:27,657 --> 00:02:29,542 Mr. Hellman just got out of surgery. 28 00:02:29,558 --> 00:02:31,292 He's in recovery, second floor. 29 00:02:31,308 --> 00:02:32,290 How's he doing? 30 00:02:32,308 --> 00:02:33,982 The surgery went well, he's stable. 31 00:02:33,996 --> 00:02:34,710 Okay. 32 00:02:35,238 --> 00:02:37,311 And Kelly Joffe? 33 00:02:37,326 --> 00:02:39,353 They're still working on her. 34 00:02:40,405 --> 00:02:41,643 Annabeth? 35 00:02:41,787 --> 00:02:43,302 Mrs. Joffe. 36 00:02:45,475 --> 00:02:46,232 How is she? 37 00:02:46,247 --> 00:02:48,111 We got here as soon as we could. 38 00:02:48,785 --> 00:02:50,181 They told us... 39 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:52,823 They told us it's touch and go. 40 00:02:53,268 --> 00:02:55,802 How can this happen? Can somebody please explain this to me? 41 00:02:55,818 --> 00:02:56,640 I am so sorry. 42 00:02:56,658 --> 00:02:59,200 I'm going to find out everything I can. I promise. 43 00:02:59,218 --> 00:03:00,951 We don't have any news on Mr. Hellman. 44 00:03:00,965 --> 00:03:02,433 They said he's stable. 45 00:03:02,447 --> 00:03:04,561 Oh, thank goodness for that. 46 00:03:08,677 --> 00:03:10,221 Oh, god. 47 00:03:11,636 --> 00:03:13,012 Oh, no. 48 00:03:47,568 --> 00:03:48,911 Annabeth... 49 00:03:49,686 --> 00:03:51,191 You heard about Kelly? 50 00:03:56,058 --> 00:03:57,220 How's Hellman? Have you heard? 51 00:03:57,235 --> 00:03:59,202 I'm just waiting to see him. 52 00:03:59,438 --> 00:04:01,462 I feel responsible for Kelly's... 53 00:04:02,918 --> 00:04:04,540 what happened to her. 54 00:04:04,556 --> 00:04:06,292 John, you didn't shoot her. 55 00:04:06,307 --> 00:04:07,293 Bob Peters did. 56 00:04:07,307 --> 00:04:08,763 I lost the case. 57 00:04:08,778 --> 00:04:10,313 If I hadn't... 58 00:04:13,177 --> 00:04:14,871 Is he in custody yet, Peters? 59 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:16,893 Suicide watch at county. 60 00:04:17,487 --> 00:04:20,173 Excuse me, Doug Hellman's awake. 61 00:04:20,515 --> 00:04:22,333 One at a time, please. 62 00:04:24,718 --> 00:04:25,832 You go. 63 00:04:35,636 --> 00:04:37,423 Annabeth. 64 00:04:40,957 --> 00:04:42,690 Would you excuse us, please? 65 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:43,682 Thank you. 66 00:04:51,736 --> 00:04:53,331 You're gonna be okay? 67 00:04:53,586 --> 00:04:54,680 Oh, yeah. I just 68 00:04:54,686 --> 00:04:57,530 always wanted to know what it felt like to be shot. 69 00:04:58,147 --> 00:04:59,531 Now I know. 70 00:04:59,548 --> 00:05:00,743 Yeah. 71 00:05:01,588 --> 00:05:03,330 It hurts. 72 00:05:03,616 --> 00:05:05,182 I don't recommend it. 73 00:05:05,808 --> 00:05:08,140 Well, I guess if you can joke about it... 74 00:05:10,666 --> 00:05:11,961 How's Kelly? 75 00:05:16,527 --> 00:05:18,213 I knew it. 76 00:05:18,225 --> 00:05:20,483 I knew it. God! 77 00:05:22,795 --> 00:05:25,383 If I could have just done something, you know? 78 00:05:26,428 --> 00:05:30,290 I was standing on the steps, and next thing I know she's on the ground 79 00:05:30,756 --> 00:05:32,292 in a puddle of blood. 80 00:05:32,308 --> 00:05:34,472 Doug, there's nothing you could have done. 81 00:05:35,898 --> 00:05:37,363 I don't know. 82 00:05:39,518 --> 00:05:41,680 I just feel so helpless. 83 00:05:43,615 --> 00:05:45,993 I don't know what to say to Kelly's parents. 84 00:05:46,355 --> 00:05:49,350 It's okay if you don't have all the answers, Annabeth. 85 00:05:56,615 --> 00:05:59,513 The jury has heard all the evidence and rendered their verdict, 86 00:05:59,528 --> 00:06:02,610 so now my client just wants to get back to his life. 87 00:06:10,188 --> 00:06:12,473 I wanna lead the prosecution of Bob Peters. 88 00:06:12,745 --> 00:06:15,671 Death penalty case, high burden of proof, sympathetic defendant. 89 00:06:15,687 --> 00:06:17,533 Peters wanted to kill Hopkins. 90 00:06:17,546 --> 00:06:18,682 Intent follows the bullet. 91 00:06:18,695 --> 00:06:20,181 The fact that he killed an innocent bystander, 92 00:06:20,186 --> 00:06:21,560 and not the man he was aiming at, 93 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:23,770 makes our argument for the death penalty even stronger. 94 00:06:23,788 --> 00:06:24,650 Agreed. 95 00:06:24,688 --> 00:06:27,030 And what is so sympathetic about recklessly shooting two innocent people? 96 00:06:27,047 --> 00:06:28,770 Peters deserves the death penalty. 97 00:06:28,786 --> 00:06:30,891 You'll need to be up to speed on the Hopkins case. 98 00:06:30,905 --> 00:06:34,153 Last summer David Hopkins pushed his wife off a cliff on a camping trip. 99 00:06:34,165 --> 00:06:37,281 The marriage was troubled, financial difficulties, infidelity, 100 00:06:37,295 --> 00:06:38,893 et cetera. We had a really strong case. 101 00:06:38,905 --> 00:06:40,873 I don't know why the jury acquitted him, but they did. 102 00:06:40,888 --> 00:06:44,172 Bob peters decided to go out and get the justice that was denied to his daughter. 103 00:06:44,188 --> 00:06:47,080 He hasn't even been arraigned yet, and his lawyer's already playing him as the victim, 104 00:06:47,096 --> 00:06:49,273 a grieving parent provoked by an unfair verdict. 105 00:06:49,287 --> 00:06:52,742 Angling for a lesser charge, positioning themselves for a manslaughter plea. 106 00:06:52,758 --> 00:06:56,152 We'll need to fire right back, vigilante justice will not be tolerated. 107 00:06:56,167 --> 00:06:57,372 - I'm ready. - Good. 108 00:06:57,388 --> 00:06:58,703 Maureen will be your second. 109 00:06:58,717 --> 00:07:00,170 Who's representing Peters? 110 00:07:00,185 --> 00:07:01,540 Hanna Turley. 111 00:07:01,558 --> 00:07:02,973 Vocal opponent of the death penalty. 112 00:07:03,008 --> 00:07:04,090 She's going to come right at us. 113 00:07:04,106 --> 00:07:04,860 Let her. 114 00:07:04,866 --> 00:07:07,683 We have as much of a soapbox to stand on as she does. 115 00:07:07,715 --> 00:07:08,832 Okay. 116 00:07:10,545 --> 00:07:12,453 You sure you're not too close to this? 117 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:14,560 We need to make an example of this guy. 118 00:07:14,575 --> 00:07:17,611 What happened to Kelly and Doug could have happened to any of us. 119 00:07:17,625 --> 00:07:21,072 And since when is it a bad thing for a prosecutor to care about a victim? 120 00:07:22,808 --> 00:07:25,553 -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- Proudly Presents 121 00:07:25,568 --> 00:07:28,551 Sync: YTET-СҰ���� -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- 122 00:07:28,565 --> 00:07:30,611 Close To Home Season 2 Episode 10 123 00:07:31,056 --> 00:07:34,282 Your Honor, we ask the defendant be released on bond. 124 00:07:34,728 --> 00:07:36,852 - Miss Chase. - The people oppose bail. 125 00:07:36,867 --> 00:07:39,740 We've filed notice to seek the death penalty, Your Honor. 126 00:07:39,788 --> 00:07:41,931 This man isn't going anywhere, Ms. Turley. 127 00:07:42,046 --> 00:07:43,233 Bail is denied. 128 00:07:45,877 --> 00:07:46,973 I'm very sorry. 129 00:07:46,975 --> 00:07:49,453 I'll be down to you in an hour, okay? 130 00:07:54,776 --> 00:07:55,933 Annabeth. 131 00:07:56,458 --> 00:07:57,360 Hanna. 132 00:07:57,418 --> 00:07:59,802 I hope your office isn't playing to the cheap seats. 133 00:07:59,865 --> 00:08:03,143 Bob Peters gunned down two attorneys on the steps of this very Courthouse. 134 00:08:03,248 --> 00:08:05,612 The whole system, every attorney, judge and clerk 135 00:08:05,696 --> 00:08:08,121 will want to see him receive the maximum punishment. 136 00:08:08,135 --> 00:08:10,143 We'll have plenty of support for the death penalty. 137 00:08:10,176 --> 00:08:13,050 Or a jury could decide that what my client did, 138 00:08:13,156 --> 00:08:14,373 if not justified, 139 00:08:14,475 --> 00:08:17,213 - was certainly understandable. - Understandable? 140 00:08:17,307 --> 00:08:19,201 They'll put themselves in his shoes, 141 00:08:19,208 --> 00:08:21,783 a grieving father, screwed by the system. 142 00:08:22,246 --> 00:08:24,970 Stop bluffing. Your office is overreaching. 143 00:08:25,006 --> 00:08:27,370 Now give me a plea offer I can take back to my client. 144 00:08:27,395 --> 00:08:29,620 - Voluntary manslaughter. - No plea. 145 00:08:29,781 --> 00:08:31,726 - Annabeth... - We are not posturing. 146 00:08:31,829 --> 00:08:33,957 We intend to pursue the death penalty to the end. 147 00:08:35,052 --> 00:08:36,226 Well, um, 148 00:08:36,239 --> 00:08:39,433 maybe you'll change your mind when you read our expert psych evaluation 149 00:08:39,488 --> 00:08:42,103 as to Mr. Peters' state of mind at the time of the shootings. 150 00:08:42,156 --> 00:08:44,103 If you're mounting some sort of affirmative defense, 151 00:08:44,135 --> 00:08:46,651 we're entitled to have our own expert evaluate him, too. 152 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:47,872 The sooner the better. 153 00:08:48,578 --> 00:08:51,431 According to police, Peters' car was parked over there. 154 00:08:51,447 --> 00:08:53,290 A reporter who followed him from the courtroom 155 00:08:53,296 --> 00:08:54,963 told police Peters went to his car, 156 00:08:55,055 --> 00:08:56,641 removed something from the glove compartment, 157 00:08:56,645 --> 00:08:57,801 and put it in his pocket. 158 00:08:57,828 --> 00:08:59,503 The murder weapon, as it turns out. 159 00:08:59,595 --> 00:09:00,972 Did he come straight to the Courthouse? 160 00:09:01,026 --> 00:09:03,183 The reporter said he stood by his car about ten minutes. 161 00:09:06,078 --> 00:09:07,983 Plenty of time to think about the crime. 162 00:09:08,525 --> 00:09:10,770 Hellman and Joffe started their press conference. 163 00:09:10,778 --> 00:09:12,663 Peters came up and commenced firing. 164 00:09:12,746 --> 00:09:13,981 How soon was that after the verdict? 165 00:09:13,995 --> 00:09:15,360 Half hour, give or take. 166 00:09:15,367 --> 00:09:17,873 Uh, the verdict was read at 9:17 A.M. 167 00:09:17,935 --> 00:09:20,210 - Shooting occurred at 9:51. - That's good for us. 168 00:09:20,285 --> 00:09:21,950 To get the death penalty in this case, 169 00:09:22,035 --> 00:09:24,451 not only do we have to prove Peters intended on killing joffe, 170 00:09:24,546 --> 00:09:26,170 but that he lay in wait to do so. 171 00:09:26,185 --> 00:09:27,870 It's about as cold-blooded as it gets. 172 00:09:28,288 --> 00:09:29,863 Any problem is he couldn't aim. 173 00:09:39,726 --> 00:09:41,802 - Have you read the psych work-up? - I did. 174 00:09:41,835 --> 00:09:44,140 Our expert's opinion, the stress of the moment, 175 00:09:44,145 --> 00:09:45,891 his judgment was impaired. 176 00:09:45,905 --> 00:09:48,753 This does not rise to the level of murder, Annabeth, 177 00:09:48,788 --> 00:09:50,642 much less the death penalty. 178 00:09:50,658 --> 00:09:52,400 Let's see what Dr. Peron has to say. 179 00:09:53,857 --> 00:09:56,513 Her name was Barbara Sue Peters, 180 00:09:56,588 --> 00:09:57,793 and yes, 181 00:09:59,038 --> 00:10:00,933 David Hopkins killed her. 182 00:10:01,026 --> 00:10:03,642 Of course he did, no doubt in my mind. 183 00:10:04,085 --> 00:10:05,603 The jury saw it differently. 184 00:10:05,688 --> 00:10:09,102 That's because these lawyers can say anything they want, 185 00:10:09,536 --> 00:10:13,802 twist the facts around, until the son of a bitch seems like prince charming. 186 00:10:15,077 --> 00:10:17,961 Tell me more about what happened after you heard the verdict. 187 00:10:18,018 --> 00:10:19,091 How you felt. 188 00:10:19,487 --> 00:10:23,611 I saw David Hopkins hug his two lawyers, and that was it. 189 00:10:24,338 --> 00:10:27,833 I went to the car, and got the gun, and waited for him to come out. 190 00:10:27,918 --> 00:10:29,473 How long did you wait? 191 00:10:29,535 --> 00:10:30,633 Until I saw him. 192 00:10:30,675 --> 00:10:32,462 I don't know how long it was. 193 00:10:32,808 --> 00:10:35,103 What were you thinking as you waited? 194 00:10:36,537 --> 00:10:37,741 About Barbara. 195 00:10:38,035 --> 00:10:41,111 How much I loved and missed her, 196 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:44,891 and how Hopkins was just going to walk away from this whole thing. 197 00:10:45,877 --> 00:10:47,900 Somebody had to make him pay. 198 00:10:50,218 --> 00:10:53,090 How did you feel about Mr. Hellman and Ms. Joffe? 199 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:55,741 I hated them for getting Hopkins off. 200 00:10:56,356 --> 00:10:58,173 For twisting my words, 201 00:10:58,238 --> 00:11:00,913 and lying to the jury about Barbara. 202 00:11:02,526 --> 00:11:04,912 Did you think about shooting them too? 203 00:11:04,945 --> 00:11:05,893 No. 204 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:10,292 My hands were shaking, you know, 205 00:11:10,296 --> 00:11:12,433 and I already told you I was aiming at Hopkins. 206 00:11:12,477 --> 00:11:15,450 But, after the first shot, you fired two more times. 207 00:11:15,645 --> 00:11:16,800 Why? 208 00:11:16,867 --> 00:11:19,493 David Hopkins was still alive, 209 00:11:19,597 --> 00:11:23,271 and I wanted him dead for what he did to my little girl. 210 00:11:24,076 --> 00:11:25,762 What happened next? 211 00:11:27,206 --> 00:11:30,192 That lady lawyer fell. 212 00:11:30,245 --> 00:11:31,982 I couldn't believe it. 213 00:11:32,595 --> 00:11:36,682 It was a terrible, terrible mistake, and I wish I could take it back. 214 00:11:38,646 --> 00:11:39,982 I'm sorry. 215 00:11:40,025 --> 00:11:42,780 And I wish to god I could take it back. 216 00:11:45,747 --> 00:11:48,222 He is genuinely remorseful about what he did. 217 00:11:48,297 --> 00:11:51,053 Genuinely sorry he didn't kill David Hopkins. 218 00:11:51,055 --> 00:11:52,743 - It's still murder. - Manslaughter. 219 00:11:52,828 --> 00:11:54,912 Sudden heat upon hearing the not guilty verdict. 220 00:11:54,986 --> 00:11:55,861 Sudden heat? 221 00:11:55,885 --> 00:11:57,540 He bought the gun three weeks before the shooting, 222 00:11:57,585 --> 00:12:00,500 and brought it to the Courthouse for the express purpose of killing David Hopkins. 223 00:12:00,578 --> 00:12:03,061 He's going to be very good on the stand. 224 00:12:03,157 --> 00:12:05,211 And the reasons he picked up the gun 225 00:12:05,217 --> 00:12:07,192 might strike a chord with some people. 226 00:12:07,245 --> 00:12:09,512 Yeah, so might the fact that he knew exactly what he was doing. 227 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:11,530 He intended to kill David Hopkins. 228 00:12:12,585 --> 00:12:15,392 I had no idea Bob was going to do that. 229 00:12:15,947 --> 00:12:18,302 My husband is not a violent man. 230 00:12:19,566 --> 00:12:22,750 Did he ever say what he would do if Hopkins was acquitted? 231 00:12:23,006 --> 00:12:25,091 We didn't talk much about the trial. 232 00:12:26,368 --> 00:12:28,252 We just tried to get through it. 233 00:12:29,156 --> 00:12:31,311 We thought that, with all the evidence, 234 00:12:31,325 --> 00:12:33,282 David was bound to be convicted, 235 00:12:33,926 --> 00:12:37,921 and Mr. Marinelli kept telling us what a strong case he had. 236 00:12:37,935 --> 00:12:41,262 And then, every day, we sat and watched while that 237 00:12:42,576 --> 00:12:45,270 lawyer, Mr. Hellman, 238 00:12:45,656 --> 00:12:47,541 punched holes in it. 239 00:12:48,546 --> 00:12:50,411 How did your husband react to that? 240 00:12:50,488 --> 00:12:52,281 Watching the case go south. 241 00:12:53,317 --> 00:12:55,043 The night before the verdict, 242 00:12:56,575 --> 00:12:57,942 he had a drink. 243 00:13:00,056 --> 00:13:03,231 20 years sober, down the tubes. 244 00:13:03,777 --> 00:13:07,070 You know, he blamed himself for this whole thing. 245 00:13:08,465 --> 00:13:09,842 He worked with David, 246 00:13:09,845 --> 00:13:12,851 he introduced him to Barbara at a company picnic. 247 00:13:14,508 --> 00:13:16,661 She was our only child. 248 00:13:17,788 --> 00:13:19,913 And that man took her from us. 249 00:13:23,107 --> 00:13:27,272 Motion to access case files in state of Indiana vs. David Hopkins. 250 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:29,331 Motion to depose John Marinelli? 251 00:13:29,417 --> 00:13:33,061 You want to depose the prosecutor in the Hopkins case and his work product? 252 00:13:33,156 --> 00:13:35,583 Files, notes, everything relating to the case. 253 00:13:35,676 --> 00:13:37,962 Mr. Marinelli's work product is not discoverable. 254 00:13:37,986 --> 00:13:39,512 It is if a judge says it is. 255 00:13:39,596 --> 00:13:41,682 The Hopkins case is at the heart of my defense. 256 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:44,020 The only thing that matters in the Hopkins case is the verdict. 257 00:13:44,098 --> 00:13:45,841 That was your client's motive for murder. 258 00:13:45,857 --> 00:13:49,670 The prosecutor's constant assurances to Bob and Maxine Peters 259 00:13:49,676 --> 00:13:51,723 that Hopkins would be convicted 260 00:13:51,726 --> 00:13:52,972 is certainly relevant. 261 00:13:53,026 --> 00:13:55,421 It laid the foundation for what subsequently happened. 262 00:13:55,455 --> 00:13:58,200 How this office tried the Hopkins case is not at issue here. 263 00:13:58,295 --> 00:13:59,341 It is now! 264 00:13:59,368 --> 00:14:03,260 The prosecutor gave Bob Peters unreasonable hope about the verdict. 265 00:14:03,335 --> 00:14:05,320 And the acquittal traumatized Bob Peters 266 00:14:05,415 --> 00:14:09,162 not because he's a violent man, but because John Marinelli misled him. 267 00:14:09,237 --> 00:14:10,793 Misled him how exactly? 268 00:14:10,826 --> 00:14:12,853 I need the work product to answer that. 269 00:14:12,907 --> 00:14:15,781 Okay, let me get this straight. Even though Peters pulled the trigger, 270 00:14:15,816 --> 00:14:17,873 Marinelli and our office are responsible 271 00:14:17,878 --> 00:14:19,960 for Doug Hellman being shot and Kelly Joffe dying? 272 00:14:20,048 --> 00:14:22,550 Know what? You can distort my argument any way you want. 273 00:14:22,636 --> 00:14:24,191 Let's see what a judge says. 274 00:14:28,846 --> 00:14:31,090 Turley wants to put this office on trial? 275 00:14:31,136 --> 00:14:34,720 She's claiming Marinelli mishandled the case, and misled Mr. and Mrs. Peters. 276 00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:36,632 - Misled? - Gave them false hope, 277 00:14:36,647 --> 00:14:39,262 assured them Hopkins would be convicted and, when he wasn't... 278 00:14:39,346 --> 00:14:41,933 Marinelli's conduct caused Bob Peters' sudden heat, 279 00:14:41,986 --> 00:14:44,643 which is a mitigating factor and obviates the death penalty. 280 00:14:44,677 --> 00:14:47,171 That's what caused Peters to fire his weapon into a crowd? 281 00:14:47,237 --> 00:14:48,992 Not that his daughter's killer was acquitted? 282 00:14:49,005 --> 00:14:51,391 I don't think a jury will find that very persuasive. 283 00:14:51,415 --> 00:14:54,242 On the surface, it's a kind of provocation argument. 284 00:14:54,345 --> 00:14:56,880 Gives Turley a way to ask for manslaughter instead of murder, 285 00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,590 and back us off the death penalty. 286 00:14:58,675 --> 00:14:59,702 Pretty thin. 287 00:14:59,758 --> 00:15:01,193 Assuming Marinelli told me the truth, 288 00:15:01,195 --> 00:15:02,860 I don't think we have anything to worry about. 289 00:15:02,895 --> 00:15:04,970 I've known john a long time. He's always been straight with me. 290 00:15:04,985 --> 00:15:08,132 Get his files on the Hopkins case. Make sure we have no surprises. 291 00:15:08,178 --> 00:15:09,912 This office has nothing to hide. 292 00:15:15,038 --> 00:15:17,041 Besides Marinelli's horrible handwriting, 293 00:15:17,096 --> 00:15:18,690 I don't see anything out of the ordinary. 294 00:15:19,025 --> 00:15:21,260 Looks like the evidence against Hopkins was strong. 295 00:15:21,866 --> 00:15:24,461 Hopkins said Barbara fell while they were hiking. 296 00:15:25,008 --> 00:15:27,551 Autopsy reports show there were bruises on her back and arms 297 00:15:27,556 --> 00:15:29,751 that indicate she was thrown from the cliff. 298 00:15:29,777 --> 00:15:32,213 And Hopkins' timeline doesn't make sense either. 299 00:15:32,257 --> 00:15:33,432 Hikers say they heard 300 00:15:33,446 --> 00:15:36,690 Barbara screaming for help hours after Hopkins said she died. 301 00:15:36,697 --> 00:15:38,880 Hellman never met a motion he didn't like. 302 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:42,192 He was able to exclude or minimize a lot of testimony and evidence. 303 00:15:42,297 --> 00:15:43,632 Here's one signed by Kelly. 304 00:15:44,726 --> 00:15:47,600 I remember the day she told me she was gonna work for Hellman. 305 00:15:47,698 --> 00:15:50,022 - I hope you warned her. - I did. 306 00:15:50,126 --> 00:15:52,211 Kelly was a true believer. 307 00:15:52,715 --> 00:15:54,602 We used to fight about it like cats and dogs. 308 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,820 She couldn't understand how I could be a prosecutor. 309 00:15:56,907 --> 00:16:00,272 I couldn't understand how she could defend people she knew were guilty. 310 00:16:04,015 --> 00:16:05,482 This is interesting. 311 00:16:06,108 --> 00:16:07,431 What is it? 312 00:16:07,476 --> 00:16:09,010 Marinelli's witness list. 313 00:16:09,058 --> 00:16:11,051 Do you remember seeing the name Nick Baxter 314 00:16:11,086 --> 00:16:12,752 - anywhere in the police files? - No. 315 00:16:12,846 --> 00:16:14,673 It wasn't in the trial transcripts either. 316 00:16:14,696 --> 00:16:17,021 Which means marinelli never called Baxter to testify, 317 00:16:17,098 --> 00:16:18,293 - right? - Exactly. 318 00:16:19,345 --> 00:16:23,020 Why would Marinelli rush to add Baxter to the witness list so late in the trial, 319 00:16:23,056 --> 00:16:24,232 at the last minute? I mean, 320 00:16:24,236 --> 00:16:25,982 why go to all that trouble, and then not call him? 321 00:16:26,076 --> 00:16:27,692 I don't know. It's not that unusual. 322 00:16:27,695 --> 00:16:29,442 Someone tips you on a hail mary witness, 323 00:16:29,536 --> 00:16:31,382 you look into it, it doesn't check out, you drop it. 324 00:16:31,455 --> 00:16:32,901 Still, look at this. 325 00:16:34,385 --> 00:16:37,082 He adds Baxter to his witness list here on the 20th, 326 00:16:37,136 --> 00:16:39,932 notifies Hellman he intends to call him at the very last minute, 327 00:16:39,945 --> 00:16:41,632 and then doesn't for some reason. 328 00:16:42,576 --> 00:16:43,663 Ask him. 329 00:16:46,017 --> 00:16:48,562 Peters was angry about the verdict, 330 00:16:48,627 --> 00:16:50,881 understandably. So was I. 331 00:16:50,957 --> 00:16:53,301 I don't see how my trial strategy is relevant. 332 00:16:53,405 --> 00:16:57,030 Well, just the same, I asked Maureen and Annabeth to review the case files. 333 00:16:58,627 --> 00:17:00,211 You find anything useful? 334 00:17:00,297 --> 00:17:02,021 Who was Nick Baxter? 335 00:17:02,066 --> 00:17:04,671 He's on your amended witness list, but you never called him. 336 00:17:04,727 --> 00:17:05,923 He didn't pan out. 337 00:17:05,968 --> 00:17:07,453 Did you question him? 338 00:17:07,555 --> 00:17:09,501 His deposition isn't in your files either. 339 00:17:09,586 --> 00:17:12,391 I didn't depose him. My investigator interviewed him. 340 00:17:12,437 --> 00:17:13,580 No record of that either. 341 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:16,990 Is there something behind this witness we should know about, John? 342 00:17:17,708 --> 00:17:19,833 No. It's nothing. 343 00:17:20,316 --> 00:17:21,963 Baxter was a bartender. 344 00:17:21,976 --> 00:17:23,822 He served Hopkins some drinks one night, 345 00:17:23,906 --> 00:17:26,351 and allegedly heard him rambling on about killing his wife. 346 00:17:26,848 --> 00:17:29,893 So we did a little digging and determined he wasn't credible. 347 00:17:29,938 --> 00:17:31,041 Why not? 348 00:17:31,058 --> 00:17:33,010 His story didn't really add up, for one thing. 349 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:35,171 He perjured himself in a child custody case. 350 00:17:35,205 --> 00:17:36,581 Hellman would have ripped him apart. 351 00:17:36,617 --> 00:17:38,513 Did you mention Baxter to the Peters? 352 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:40,520 Not specifically, no. 353 00:17:41,097 --> 00:17:43,043 Say what you're trying to say, Annabeth. 354 00:17:44,018 --> 00:17:46,861 You assured them David Hopkins would be convicted, right? 355 00:17:47,506 --> 00:17:49,981 I told them we had a very strong case, 356 00:17:50,046 --> 00:17:52,492 and I had no reason to believe we wouldn't get a conviction. 357 00:17:52,577 --> 00:17:54,153 You never mentioned Baxter to them 358 00:17:54,195 --> 00:17:56,022 the last-minute witness that would seal the deal? 359 00:17:56,038 --> 00:17:57,270 No, I did not. 360 00:17:57,307 --> 00:18:00,600 Well, Turley's going to claim that you unrealistically built up the Peters' hopes 361 00:18:00,656 --> 00:18:03,930 and made David Hopkins' acquittal even more devastating than it had to be. 362 00:18:06,035 --> 00:18:10,312 There's a lot of things I wish I had done differently. 363 00:18:10,855 --> 00:18:12,083 But for you to suggest that 364 00:18:12,086 --> 00:18:15,392 I didn't do everything I could to win that case is just plain wrong. 365 00:18:15,498 --> 00:18:18,370 - I'm not suggesting that, John. - I should have won it, but I didn't. 366 00:18:18,438 --> 00:18:20,240 Why didn't you? What went wrong? 367 00:18:20,268 --> 00:18:21,661 Nothing went wrong. 368 00:18:21,695 --> 00:18:25,103 Doug Hellman did a better job telling his story to the jury than I did mine. 369 00:18:25,197 --> 00:18:27,151 That's what it boils down to, doesn't it? 370 00:18:27,346 --> 00:18:28,963 Who's got the better story? 371 00:18:29,027 --> 00:18:32,860 If Bob Peters wants to put his killing Kelly on me because of that, 372 00:18:33,917 --> 00:18:36,140 I can't believe we're having this conversation. 373 00:18:37,237 --> 00:18:38,981 Anything else I can help you with, 374 00:18:39,636 --> 00:18:40,870 you let me know. 375 00:18:41,987 --> 00:18:44,232 John, this isn't personal. 376 00:18:44,905 --> 00:18:46,270 Yes, Annabeth, 377 00:18:46,867 --> 00:18:48,142 it is. 378 00:18:49,366 --> 00:18:51,163 It couldn't be more personal. 379 00:18:57,295 --> 00:18:59,530 I'd still like to know more about Baxter. 380 00:18:59,636 --> 00:19:02,391 Let's have Ed and Ray talk to his investigator. 381 00:19:02,417 --> 00:19:04,481 Something's not sitting right with this. 382 00:19:07,098 --> 00:19:08,892 I didn't find Nick Baxter. 383 00:19:08,986 --> 00:19:11,053 As far as I know, Marinelli found him. 384 00:19:11,408 --> 00:19:14,142 - That's not what we were told. - Well, you were told wrong. 385 00:19:14,248 --> 00:19:15,711 Yeah, Marinelli sent me to see him. 386 00:19:15,795 --> 00:19:18,001 - How did he find Baxter? - No idea. 387 00:19:18,035 --> 00:19:19,993 We had four investigators working on the case. 388 00:19:20,066 --> 00:19:22,780 Baxter's name never came up until Marinelli gave it to us. 389 00:19:22,845 --> 00:19:24,343 But you interviewed Baxter, right? 390 00:19:24,367 --> 00:19:26,543 - Yeah. Should be in the case file. - It wasn't. 391 00:19:26,618 --> 00:19:28,973 - You remember the gist of it? - Yeah. Baxter was 392 00:19:29,046 --> 00:19:31,711 serving him pi coladas one night. Hopkins got drunk, 393 00:19:31,716 --> 00:19:34,582 you know, confessed to how he killed his wife on a camping trip, 394 00:19:34,668 --> 00:19:37,043 pushed her off a ledge, made it look like an accident. 395 00:19:37,318 --> 00:19:39,460 - Baxter would have testified to this? - Yeah, 396 00:19:39,516 --> 00:19:41,703 if Marinelli would have called him, but he never did. 397 00:19:42,597 --> 00:19:45,792 Marinelli said that you determined Baxter was not credible. 398 00:19:45,825 --> 00:19:47,162 Oh, that's a load. 399 00:19:47,257 --> 00:19:49,821 No. Baxter's story was good, you know? Rang true. 400 00:19:49,928 --> 00:19:52,402 He perjured himself in a custody trial, though. 401 00:19:52,957 --> 00:19:54,262 Look, 402 00:19:54,268 --> 00:19:55,632 my two cents, 403 00:19:55,637 --> 00:19:58,252 Baxter would have been a powerful witness against Hopkins. 404 00:19:58,336 --> 00:20:00,650 You know? But, hey, what do I know? 405 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:03,740 Marinelli is the one with the fancy suit, salary, 406 00:20:04,147 --> 00:20:07,062 you know? His trial, his call. 407 00:20:07,068 --> 00:20:10,051 You got any idea how Marinelli found Baxter in the first place? 408 00:20:10,107 --> 00:20:12,070 No. That's a good question. 409 00:20:13,465 --> 00:20:17,530 Baxter told me I wasn't the only guy coming around asking about David Hopkins. 410 00:20:18,298 --> 00:20:19,951 Somebody else got there first? 411 00:20:20,007 --> 00:20:22,700 Name escapes me, but he was a private investigator. 412 00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:23,890 Working for? 413 00:20:23,975 --> 00:20:25,841 Hopkins' lawyer. 414 00:20:26,048 --> 00:20:27,400 Doug Hellman. 415 00:20:37,308 --> 00:20:39,972 Vance didn't find Baxter. You did. 416 00:20:40,565 --> 00:20:41,742 Tell me how. 417 00:20:42,566 --> 00:20:44,753 Why do you care so much about Baxter? 418 00:20:45,235 --> 00:20:48,231 He's a witness I never called in a case that's over, 419 00:20:48,277 --> 00:20:50,441 against a defendant that can't be retried. 420 00:20:50,447 --> 00:20:52,163 Just tell me how you found Baxter. 421 00:20:58,066 --> 00:20:59,403 I loved her. 422 00:21:00,747 --> 00:21:01,940 Kelly. 423 00:21:02,477 --> 00:21:04,950 - We all did. - No, it's no what... 424 00:21:06,518 --> 00:21:07,691 kelly and I were... 425 00:21:10,028 --> 00:21:11,681 We were seeing each other. 426 00:21:18,585 --> 00:21:21,193 - She never told me that. - Nobody knew. 427 00:21:21,596 --> 00:21:23,493 We started dating during the trial. 428 00:21:23,507 --> 00:21:24,852 Why didn't you recuse yourselves? 429 00:21:24,877 --> 00:21:27,053 By the time we realized where things were going, 430 00:21:27,125 --> 00:21:28,961 it would have led to a mistrial. 431 00:21:29,697 --> 00:21:31,601 Neither of us wanted that. 432 00:21:32,535 --> 00:21:33,603 We had a rule. 433 00:21:33,676 --> 00:21:35,361 We'd never discuss the case 434 00:21:35,366 --> 00:21:37,222 or even work, for that matter. 435 00:21:38,186 --> 00:21:40,983 We figured we could keep it a secret from Hellman, but, 436 00:21:42,796 --> 00:21:44,232 it turned out he knew. 437 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,453 Did Kelly tell you about Baxter? 438 00:21:46,927 --> 00:21:48,692 Kelly would have never done that. 439 00:21:48,716 --> 00:21:50,461 She was incredibly ethical. 440 00:21:50,526 --> 00:21:52,633 We never discussed the Hopkins case. 441 00:21:52,727 --> 00:21:54,871 - Ever. - Then how did you find out? 442 00:22:00,408 --> 00:22:02,823 One night she was staying in my apartment. 443 00:22:04,555 --> 00:22:09,332 She left her briefcase open with the file on Baxter right on top. 444 00:22:09,347 --> 00:22:12,072 - Like she wanted me to see it. - Even so, John, 445 00:22:12,156 --> 00:22:14,762 why did you look at it? Why would you jeopardize your case? 446 00:22:14,785 --> 00:22:17,863 The Peters were calling me every day. 447 00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:22,033 Coming in to the office, waiting for me after court, 448 00:22:22,626 --> 00:22:24,852 desperate for good news. 449 00:22:25,848 --> 00:22:27,283 And to be honest, 450 00:22:27,288 --> 00:22:29,131 the trial had started to turn. 451 00:22:29,498 --> 00:22:32,771 I could feel the jury having doubts about my case. 452 00:22:34,226 --> 00:22:36,981 It was so stupid, but once I knew 453 00:22:37,395 --> 00:22:40,361 that Hopkins had confessed to Baxter about killing his wife, 454 00:22:40,397 --> 00:22:42,882 - I had to put him on the stand. - But you didn't. 455 00:22:43,845 --> 00:22:44,943 No. 456 00:22:46,538 --> 00:22:47,962 Hellman? 457 00:22:48,778 --> 00:22:51,823 Saw Baxter on my witness list and confronted me. 458 00:22:51,877 --> 00:22:54,120 He said he knew Kelly and I were involved 459 00:22:54,126 --> 00:22:57,851 and accused me of betraying Kelly to discover Baxter. 460 00:22:57,888 --> 00:23:00,401 Let me guess. Hellman came up with a solution. 461 00:23:00,417 --> 00:23:01,602 What were we going to do? 462 00:23:01,626 --> 00:23:04,721 Either I could drop it and pretend like I never found Baxter, 463 00:23:04,736 --> 00:23:07,022 or Hellman would expose us to the judge. 464 00:23:07,087 --> 00:23:08,422 Either way, 465 00:23:08,425 --> 00:23:10,821 - Baxter would never testify. - John, 466 00:23:10,898 --> 00:23:14,580 if Hellman wasn't willing to go to the judge, you should have. 467 00:23:15,755 --> 00:23:17,071 Yeah. 468 00:23:18,098 --> 00:23:20,253 I should have. I know that now. 469 00:23:23,325 --> 00:23:24,490 But I didn't. 470 00:23:33,505 --> 00:23:35,973 What, no flowers, no candy? 471 00:23:36,466 --> 00:23:38,373 I've been talking to John Marinelli. 472 00:23:39,865 --> 00:23:43,581 Oh, well, he's made a clean breast of it, then, has he? 473 00:23:43,647 --> 00:23:44,772 You should have gone to the judge. 474 00:23:44,806 --> 00:23:46,511 What, and ruined Kelly's career 475 00:23:46,518 --> 00:23:47,912 just because she had the bad judgment 476 00:23:47,938 --> 00:23:49,903 to fall in love with a prosecutor? 477 00:23:49,926 --> 00:23:52,151 I mean, what was I going to do? They were in love. 478 00:23:52,236 --> 00:23:53,892 I tried to protect her 479 00:23:53,948 --> 00:23:57,313 - and Marinelli. - Marinelli dumped a crucial witness. 480 00:23:57,415 --> 00:24:00,620 No judge would have ever allowed Baxter to testify, 481 00:24:00,647 --> 00:24:02,810 and Hopkins still would have been acquitted. 482 00:24:02,826 --> 00:24:05,570 Peters still would have gotten his gun and Kelly would still be dead. 483 00:24:05,648 --> 00:24:07,333 Yeah, well, Conlon's is not gonna see it that way, 484 00:24:07,428 --> 00:24:09,603 and neither is Turley when she gets ahold of it. 485 00:24:09,677 --> 00:24:11,002 There's got to be a way to fix this. 486 00:24:11,088 --> 00:24:13,562 Well, you have to do what's right for your case, which means 487 00:24:13,605 --> 00:24:15,923 getting justice for Kelly's family. 488 00:24:15,968 --> 00:24:18,260 The position Turley's put me in affects you too, Doug. 489 00:24:20,065 --> 00:24:22,343 Kelly was a lot like you, you know. 490 00:24:22,887 --> 00:24:25,543 Stubborn, passionate to a fault. 491 00:24:25,555 --> 00:24:28,920 I don't think you understand what's going to happen if Turley finds out what you did. 492 00:24:28,937 --> 00:24:30,480 I understand. 493 00:24:31,566 --> 00:24:33,191 You could be disbarred. 494 00:24:35,005 --> 00:24:38,072 Well, if I had it to do over again, I'd do the same. 495 00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:48,900 You're telling me Doug Hellman forced Marinelli to bury a witness? 496 00:24:48,976 --> 00:24:50,853 He says he was just trying to protect John and Kelly. 497 00:24:50,858 --> 00:24:53,270 Yeah, and getting an acquittal for his client was incidental, right? 498 00:24:53,296 --> 00:24:54,791 Well, Hellman's on the hook too. I mean, 499 00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:56,622 if Turley exposes what he did... 500 00:24:56,678 --> 00:24:58,253 Hellman is not my problem. 501 00:24:58,298 --> 00:25:01,302 Turley is going to ram Marinelli's misconduct down our throat. 502 00:25:01,335 --> 00:25:02,640 She's bound to find Baxter. 503 00:25:02,716 --> 00:25:04,553 Our only hope is the counter motion we filed, 504 00:25:04,577 --> 00:25:07,663 arguing the Hopkins trial is irrelevant to the Peters case, 505 00:25:07,668 --> 00:25:09,883 - and therefore, not discoverable. - We should win that. 506 00:25:09,916 --> 00:25:14,183 I can't see a judge allowing Turley to rifle through this office's work product and personal notes. 507 00:25:14,255 --> 00:25:15,362 Let's hope you're right. 508 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:18,682 Your Honor, the Hopkins case couldn't be more relevant. 509 00:25:18,695 --> 00:25:20,233 It is a factual basis 510 00:25:20,245 --> 00:25:23,500 for the provocation that led to my client's actions. 511 00:25:23,525 --> 00:25:25,620 Your Honor, the jury verdict provoked Bob Peters, 512 00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:28,422 not prosecutor Marinelli's private work product about the case. 513 00:25:28,455 --> 00:25:31,500 The material can substantiate my client's assertion 514 00:25:31,516 --> 00:25:33,762 Mr. Marinelli misled him 515 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:37,803 about the prospect of convicting Hopkins for the murder of his daughter. 516 00:25:37,876 --> 00:25:39,532 The defense has presented no evidence 517 00:25:39,577 --> 00:25:42,231 that Mr. Marinelli ever made those assurances to Mr. Peters. 518 00:25:42,255 --> 00:25:46,110 Your Honor, that is precisely why we want to depose Mr. Marinelli 519 00:25:46,135 --> 00:25:48,672 and look at his papers in this case. 520 00:25:48,748 --> 00:25:50,200 Miss Chase, 521 00:25:50,208 --> 00:25:53,692 while I understand the need for discretion in the prosecutor's office, 522 00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:56,202 I believe the attorney work product in this instance 523 00:25:56,217 --> 00:25:58,550 is relevant to Mr. Peters' defense. 524 00:25:58,605 --> 00:26:01,712 Therefore, I'm granting Miss Turley's discovery motion. 525 00:26:01,755 --> 00:26:04,011 Your Honor, this goes against case law and precedent. 526 00:26:04,098 --> 00:26:05,911 If you believe you have sensitive work product, 527 00:26:05,966 --> 00:26:08,362 you can always file for in-chamber inspection. 528 00:26:12,075 --> 00:26:14,623 Are you worried about what I'm going to find in the files? 529 00:26:14,648 --> 00:26:15,630 Of course not. 530 00:26:15,728 --> 00:26:18,043 Then why are you working so hard to keep me from seeing them? 531 00:26:18,126 --> 00:26:21,040 Principle, Hanna. We can't have defense attorneys rummaging through our notes. 532 00:26:21,088 --> 00:26:23,192 Annabeth, I'm just trying to do my job. 533 00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:28,512 And as long as the state of Indiana insists on trying this as a death penalty case, 534 00:26:28,517 --> 00:26:31,971 I will do everything in my power to fight it. 535 00:26:40,248 --> 00:26:42,413 How did it go with the prosecuting attorney? 536 00:26:42,428 --> 00:26:45,102 He doesn't like being held over a barrel any more than I do. 537 00:26:45,527 --> 00:26:47,770 We both prefer to deal with this in an up-front manner, 538 00:26:47,818 --> 00:26:50,063 not have it impact a high-profile case. 539 00:26:50,535 --> 00:26:52,573 Marinelli is a problem we inherited, 540 00:26:52,577 --> 00:26:54,440 and he's gonna have to answer for it. 541 00:26:54,485 --> 00:26:56,211 And if need be, we'll make an example out of him. 542 00:26:56,257 --> 00:26:58,582 Turley suggested she'd be open to a deal, 543 00:26:58,925 --> 00:27:01,741 take the death penalty off the table. That's what she wants. 544 00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:04,463 Manslaughter, 20 years, no opposition to parole. 545 00:27:04,538 --> 00:27:06,272 The offer may be better coming from you; 546 00:27:06,348 --> 00:27:08,362 let her know this isn't some game I'm running on her. 547 00:27:08,396 --> 00:27:09,283 Done. 548 00:27:10,236 --> 00:27:11,751 Maybe I can charm her. 549 00:27:11,807 --> 00:27:13,093 Good luck with that. 550 00:27:14,078 --> 00:27:17,282 Mr. Conlon, a rare sighting in these humble precincts. 551 00:27:17,327 --> 00:27:19,023 To what do we owe the honor? 552 00:27:19,037 --> 00:27:21,130 I'll get right to it, Miss Turley. 553 00:27:21,176 --> 00:27:23,231 The prosecutor's office acknowledges 554 00:27:23,238 --> 00:27:25,542 your client's dismay with the verdict in the Hopkins case, 555 00:27:25,567 --> 00:27:28,291 but that ship has sailed. The jury acquitted him. 556 00:27:28,375 --> 00:27:30,583 I don't think you're here to talk about double jeopardy. 557 00:27:30,635 --> 00:27:32,890 We won the discovery motion, so offer us a deal 558 00:27:32,898 --> 00:27:35,133 or give us the files on the Hopkins case. 559 00:27:36,236 --> 00:27:40,150 Manslaughter, 20 years, no opposition to parole. 560 00:27:40,197 --> 00:27:44,150 24 hours ago,you wanted to try this as a death penalty case. 561 00:27:44,235 --> 00:27:46,951 I know what's in these files has a little something to do with that. 562 00:27:47,035 --> 00:27:48,652 Offer is on the table. 563 00:27:55,028 --> 00:27:57,021 Bob, I think you should take it. 564 00:27:57,068 --> 00:27:58,612 20 years? 565 00:27:58,676 --> 00:28:01,160 I may not be alive in 20 years. 566 00:28:01,586 --> 00:28:03,722 You said we would take this to trial. 567 00:28:03,788 --> 00:28:06,273 Yes, but they removed the death penalty. That's... 568 00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:07,702 that's a good deal. 569 00:28:07,785 --> 00:28:09,392 Not good enough. 570 00:28:11,077 --> 00:28:13,361 I want people to hear my story. 571 00:28:13,838 --> 00:28:17,031 Hear how I was led to believe that I would get justice, 572 00:28:17,076 --> 00:28:19,443 and how that was taken from me! 573 00:28:22,526 --> 00:28:25,301 And I want justice for Kelly Joffe and Doug Hellman. 574 00:28:25,326 --> 00:28:28,640 Convince him. You and I both know this is in his best interest. 575 00:28:28,657 --> 00:28:30,432 Well,of course I'm going to talk to him. 576 00:28:30,765 --> 00:28:32,972 But as you can see, he's fairly dug in. 577 00:28:33,036 --> 00:28:34,672 If he changes his mind, let me know. 578 00:28:34,696 --> 00:28:36,980 And I'm still waiting on those case files. 579 00:28:37,037 --> 00:28:39,380 Don't force me to go back to Judge Jenkins 580 00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:41,652 and get a contempt of court citation. 581 00:28:50,018 --> 00:28:51,970 Clock's ticking on her motion. 582 00:28:52,076 --> 00:28:54,571 We have no choice but to comply. Hold it till tomorrow, though. 583 00:28:54,638 --> 00:28:56,470 I need some time to get my ducks in a row. 584 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,183 One of those ducks Marinelli? 585 00:28:58,256 --> 00:28:59,542 He'll resign today. 586 00:29:00,556 --> 00:29:01,923 What about Hellman? 587 00:29:01,947 --> 00:29:05,153 We're referring Hellman to the ethics review board of the Indiana bar. 588 00:29:05,196 --> 00:29:07,203 Someone should let him know this is coming. 589 00:29:07,295 --> 00:29:08,113 I will. 590 00:29:08,116 --> 00:29:11,110 He'll be at the church paying his respects to Kelly's parents. 591 00:29:11,138 --> 00:29:12,881 As long as you're there, talk to them too. 592 00:29:12,965 --> 00:29:15,321 Let them know about their daughter's relationship with Marinelli, 593 00:29:15,347 --> 00:29:17,312 before they read about it in the paper. 594 00:29:54,087 --> 00:29:55,042 Annabeth. 595 00:29:55,088 --> 00:29:57,293 Mr. Joffe, I'm so sorry. 596 00:30:00,857 --> 00:30:02,961 Kelly was an amazing woman. 597 00:30:02,985 --> 00:30:04,180 Thank you. 598 00:30:04,477 --> 00:30:06,343 She always spoke so highly of you. 599 00:30:15,276 --> 00:30:18,160 We offered Bob Peters a plea. 600 00:30:18,258 --> 00:30:19,411 A plea? 601 00:30:19,466 --> 00:30:20,750 Manslaughter. 602 00:30:20,808 --> 00:30:22,912 A minimum sentence of 20 years. 603 00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:24,920 20 years... 604 00:30:24,966 --> 00:30:26,631 For killing my daughter? 605 00:30:27,727 --> 00:30:29,193 He turned it down. 606 00:30:29,768 --> 00:30:31,872 Now, if we go to trial, 607 00:30:31,886 --> 00:30:34,820 his lawyer is going to exploit something Kelly did, 608 00:30:34,906 --> 00:30:36,420 something she shouldn't have done. 609 00:30:36,478 --> 00:30:38,043 Is this about John Marinelli? 610 00:30:39,027 --> 00:30:40,291 I know all about it. 611 00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,022 He called me yesterday. 612 00:30:42,068 --> 00:30:44,001 He told me about his relationship with Kelly. 613 00:30:48,235 --> 00:30:49,883 They loved each other. 614 00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:54,700 If it's unethical, I can live with that. 615 00:30:55,248 --> 00:30:56,692 It's more than that. 616 00:30:57,515 --> 00:30:59,570 I think Kelly may have 617 00:30:59,586 --> 00:31:02,333 inadvertently given Marinelli a crucial piece of evidence. 618 00:31:02,357 --> 00:31:05,753 It's nice of you to say that it was inadvertent. 619 00:31:06,697 --> 00:31:07,830 It wasn't. 620 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:11,631 Kelly told us that she was sure that Hopkins had killed his wife. 621 00:31:13,008 --> 00:31:16,092 If John Marinelli found something, it's because kelly wanted him to. 622 00:31:18,845 --> 00:31:20,511 I think I'll just leave it at that. 623 00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:23,232 Thanks so much for coming. 624 00:31:39,385 --> 00:31:40,633 Can I have a word with you? 625 00:31:43,326 --> 00:31:44,952 Still upset with me? 626 00:31:45,746 --> 00:31:48,341 I understand what you did and why you did it. 627 00:31:49,015 --> 00:31:51,463 I'm sure your boss has a dimmer view. 628 00:31:52,515 --> 00:31:55,083 He's referring you to the ethics review board. 629 00:31:55,578 --> 00:31:57,762 You're going to have your license revoked. 630 00:31:59,498 --> 00:32:02,071 Doug, Turley's going to use this against us if we go to trial. 631 00:32:02,078 --> 00:32:04,760 The judge tossed our counter motion to suppress. 632 00:32:04,788 --> 00:32:06,581 Well, ask yourself this: 633 00:32:07,347 --> 00:32:09,672 what does Bob Peters really want? 634 00:32:10,156 --> 00:32:12,033 He wants justice for his daughter. 635 00:32:12,118 --> 00:32:13,200 Of course he does. 636 00:32:13,706 --> 00:32:17,963 Now, we can't very well put Mr. Hopkins back on trial now, can we? 637 00:32:18,547 --> 00:32:21,970 At least not for killing Barbara Peters. 638 00:32:23,098 --> 00:32:24,520 What are you talking about? 639 00:32:26,035 --> 00:32:29,110 We're in a very gray area here, Annabeth. 640 00:32:29,826 --> 00:32:31,190 How gray? 641 00:32:32,687 --> 00:32:34,032 Gray. 642 00:32:35,518 --> 00:32:39,271 After I saw you at the hospital the last time, I made a few phone calls. 643 00:32:39,335 --> 00:32:41,073 I got my investigator involved. 644 00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:43,662 I had him put Mr. Hopkins under a microscope. 645 00:32:43,726 --> 00:32:44,893 What did he find? 646 00:32:45,388 --> 00:32:47,380 Nothing until yesterday. 647 00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:53,221 Now, it's my job to defend my clients against whatever they're charged with now 648 00:32:53,237 --> 00:32:55,992 and not pass judgment against something that may or 649 00:32:55,995 --> 00:32:58,722 may not have happened 15 years ago. 650 00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:00,911 15 years ago? 651 00:33:03,928 --> 00:33:05,272 Jane Darby. 652 00:33:16,887 --> 00:33:20,122 I just accepted John Marinelli's letter of resignation. 653 00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:23,420 We need to hold off sending Marinelli's files to Hanna Turley. 654 00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,921 The last thing this office needs right now is to be slapped for contempt. 655 00:33:26,955 --> 00:33:28,461 We can still make a deal with Peters. 656 00:33:28,508 --> 00:33:29,960 Funny, that wasn't the impression I got. 657 00:33:30,065 --> 00:33:33,682 What if told you there was a way to nail David Hopkins? 658 00:33:34,527 --> 00:33:35,863 What are you talking about? 659 00:33:36,428 --> 00:33:38,753 I think he murdered his college girlfriend. 660 00:33:39,727 --> 00:33:41,070 Are you making this up? 661 00:33:41,167 --> 00:33:42,641 No, her name was Jane Darby. 662 00:33:42,706 --> 00:33:45,460 It happened 15 years ago, boating accident, supposedly. 663 00:33:46,038 --> 00:33:48,643 Why wasn't this brought up at the Hopkins trial? 664 00:33:48,726 --> 00:33:49,692 Nobody knew. 665 00:33:49,785 --> 00:33:51,042 Well, how is it that you know? 666 00:33:51,277 --> 00:33:52,843 A little bird told me. 667 00:33:52,885 --> 00:33:53,871 What little bird? 668 00:33:53,895 --> 00:33:55,012 Doug Hellman? 669 00:33:55,118 --> 00:33:56,301 No comment. 670 00:34:02,048 --> 00:34:03,973 Judge Jenkins just put me on notice 671 00:34:04,058 --> 00:34:06,783 he's going to cite us with contempt if we go one minute past the deadline 672 00:34:06,817 --> 00:34:08,342 and Turley doesn't have our material. 673 00:34:08,398 --> 00:34:09,830 I'm stalling as hard as I can. 674 00:34:09,868 --> 00:34:11,600 I just got off the phone with Turley's office. 675 00:34:11,675 --> 00:34:13,581 Told them we were still gathering information. 676 00:34:14,545 --> 00:34:16,542 Tell me you got something we can use. 677 00:34:16,607 --> 00:34:18,200 There was never a police report. 678 00:34:18,668 --> 00:34:20,002 Just a coroner report. 679 00:34:21,075 --> 00:34:24,070 Jane Darby's death was ruled death by misadventure. 680 00:34:24,176 --> 00:34:25,540 Drowned in a boating accident. 681 00:34:25,576 --> 00:34:28,010 Hopkins was never even mentioned as the guy who reported it. 682 00:34:28,117 --> 00:34:30,361 Accidental drowning's a long way from murder. 683 00:34:30,586 --> 00:34:32,280 This case is 15 years old. 684 00:34:32,358 --> 00:34:34,470 Evidence, if there is any, is going to be hard to come by. 685 00:34:34,498 --> 00:34:38,341 Were Jane Darby's parents aware Hopkins was trialed for killing his wife? 686 00:34:38,357 --> 00:34:39,993 They moved out of the state after the accident. 687 00:34:40,037 --> 00:34:42,370 What are the chances they'll authorize an exhumation? 688 00:34:42,445 --> 00:34:44,211 Already have. All these years, 689 00:34:44,277 --> 00:34:47,071 they have a lot of unanswered questions about their daughter's death. 690 00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:51,443 If she drowned, it's 'cause somebody caved her skull in. 691 00:34:51,496 --> 00:34:53,053 Why was it ruled a drowning? 692 00:34:53,137 --> 00:34:54,153 Beats me. 693 00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:56,970 She had water in her lungs so technically she did drown. 694 00:34:57,038 --> 00:34:59,400 But there's no other way to explain the skull fracture. 695 00:34:59,416 --> 00:35:01,942 - Would it have been evident? - Clear as day. 696 00:35:01,978 --> 00:35:04,981 Head trauma; blow from a blunt object. 697 00:35:06,007 --> 00:35:09,663 You should talk to the chief coroner who signed off on this back in the day, 698 00:35:09,755 --> 00:35:11,221 if he's still alive. 699 00:35:11,317 --> 00:35:12,943 How could he have signed off on this? 700 00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:15,653 Chief coroners are elected in this state. 701 00:35:15,706 --> 00:35:17,430 They're not necessarily doctors. 702 00:35:17,447 --> 00:35:20,652 Some are good, some are bad, some are political hacks. 703 00:35:20,656 --> 00:35:22,692 Guess which kind this one was? 704 00:35:24,038 --> 00:35:26,300 Checked out the chief coroner who wrote the report. 705 00:35:26,307 --> 00:35:27,500 He's retired now. 706 00:35:27,558 --> 00:35:29,431 Turns out he's a close friend of the family. 707 00:35:29,517 --> 00:35:32,091 David Hopkins' father contributed heavily to his campaign. 708 00:35:32,138 --> 00:35:35,102 This is exactly why most states have done away with the coroner system. 709 00:35:35,148 --> 00:35:36,272 So what was his name? 710 00:35:36,366 --> 00:35:38,760 Harold Jensen. He wasn't even a doctor. 711 00:35:38,818 --> 00:35:41,640 Before getting elected coroner, he sold medical supplies. 712 00:35:41,645 --> 00:35:42,891 Proves my point. 713 00:35:43,366 --> 00:35:45,972 So this Harold Jensen decided to look the other way, 714 00:35:46,056 --> 00:35:47,951 rule it an accident because of the family. 715 00:35:47,988 --> 00:35:50,710 The sheriff's office thought it was an accident, so did the newspaper. 716 00:35:50,766 --> 00:35:51,902 There's no need to investigate. 717 00:35:51,995 --> 00:35:53,730 The rails were greased for this guy to go along. 718 00:35:53,795 --> 00:35:55,961 All right, we're going to need a statement from him for the record. 719 00:35:57,385 --> 00:36:00,501 When you heard David Hopkins had been accused of killing his wife, 720 00:36:00,536 --> 00:36:02,071 why didn't you go to the authorities? 721 00:36:02,115 --> 00:36:04,262 Tell them what you knew about Jane Darby? 722 00:36:04,318 --> 00:36:05,763 It wasn't that simple. 723 00:36:06,858 --> 00:36:08,322 That boating accident 724 00:36:08,376 --> 00:36:10,730 - was a terrible tragedy. - Accident? 725 00:36:12,565 --> 00:36:15,760 A couple of college kids that were out there on the water, 726 00:36:15,848 --> 00:36:17,691 drinking, carrying on. 727 00:36:17,745 --> 00:36:19,610 And after the accident? 728 00:36:20,576 --> 00:36:23,250 David Hopkins' dad came to see me. 729 00:36:23,597 --> 00:36:26,163 He asked me to spare the victim's family. 730 00:36:26,216 --> 00:36:29,503 And you did this by signing off without an investigation? 731 00:36:31,535 --> 00:36:34,051 We did our own autopsy on Jane Darby. 732 00:36:34,385 --> 00:36:38,103 If you had done your job and conducted a proper inquiry... 733 00:36:40,885 --> 00:36:42,750 I'm not a doctor. 734 00:36:42,777 --> 00:36:44,441 I never claimed to be. 735 00:36:44,455 --> 00:36:45,873 But you knew. 736 00:36:48,036 --> 00:36:50,912 I knew something wasn't right. 737 00:36:50,937 --> 00:36:52,932 Even I could see that. 738 00:36:54,197 --> 00:36:59,373 But the Hopkins were insistent that this was an accident, 739 00:36:59,438 --> 00:37:01,390 best left alone. 740 00:37:01,405 --> 00:37:03,521 They asked me to close the case 741 00:37:03,578 --> 00:37:04,980 and I did. 742 00:37:04,996 --> 00:37:06,450 You do see how this looks? 743 00:37:06,527 --> 00:37:08,551 I'm old, not blind. 744 00:37:08,607 --> 00:37:10,070 I know what you're saying. 745 00:37:10,866 --> 00:37:14,763 Not a day goes by that I don't think about what I did. 746 00:37:15,617 --> 00:37:18,372 I should have asked more questions, but... 747 00:37:19,695 --> 00:37:21,283 but I didn't. 748 00:37:21,995 --> 00:37:24,393 At the time, I remember thinking how, 749 00:37:24,415 --> 00:37:26,491 how bright David's future was. 750 00:37:26,565 --> 00:37:28,940 How he had so much to look forward to. 751 00:37:29,005 --> 00:37:31,303 David Hopkins is a murderer. 752 00:37:32,026 --> 00:37:34,891 He killed Jane Darby, and if you'd done your job 753 00:37:34,938 --> 00:37:36,881 then Barbara Peters would still be alive today, 754 00:37:36,937 --> 00:37:38,352 - and so would Kelly Joffe. - Stop. 755 00:37:38,357 --> 00:37:40,090 That's a lot of ruined lives, Mr. Jensen. 756 00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:40,930 Just stop. 757 00:37:42,556 --> 00:37:43,813 Tell me... 758 00:37:45,418 --> 00:37:47,771 how I can make this right. 759 00:37:48,436 --> 00:37:50,641 You can start by giving a statement. 760 00:37:51,878 --> 00:37:54,562 Tell the truth at last. 761 00:37:58,038 --> 00:38:00,012 We tracked down the boat rental guy. 762 00:38:00,035 --> 00:38:02,632 David Hopkins and Jane Darby were arguing that day. 763 00:38:02,647 --> 00:38:04,083 We've got more leads too. 764 00:38:04,135 --> 00:38:07,071 The college friends that'll testify the relationship was on the skids. 765 00:38:07,205 --> 00:38:09,312 With the coroner's statement and the forensic evidence, 766 00:38:09,317 --> 00:38:10,661 - we got enough. - Arrest Hopkins. 767 00:38:10,727 --> 00:38:12,671 Make sure his picture gets in the paper. 768 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:14,502 Our pleasure. 769 00:38:15,028 --> 00:38:16,340 David Hopkins... 770 00:38:18,846 --> 00:38:21,213 You're under arrest for the murder of Jane Darby. 771 00:38:22,178 --> 00:38:23,492 Jane Darby? 772 00:38:24,897 --> 00:38:26,433 There must be some mistake. 773 00:38:26,497 --> 00:38:28,143 There's no mistake. You killed her. 774 00:38:28,225 --> 00:38:29,491 Game over, buddy. 775 00:38:29,535 --> 00:38:30,761 Can I read him his rights? 776 00:38:30,796 --> 00:38:32,341 You always read them their rights. 777 00:38:32,416 --> 00:38:33,740 Knock yourself out. 778 00:38:33,818 --> 00:38:35,543 You have the right to remain silent. 779 00:38:36,097 --> 00:38:37,553 Anything you say... 780 00:38:39,927 --> 00:38:41,383 Say "cheese". 781 00:38:45,595 --> 00:38:48,661 You still haven't complied with Judge Jenkins' ruling. 782 00:38:48,698 --> 00:38:50,611 We've got something better to offer. 783 00:38:50,958 --> 00:38:53,651 I thought manslaughter, 20 years was your rock bottom, 784 00:38:53,756 --> 00:38:55,921 - take it or leave it. - It was. It still is. 785 00:38:56,285 --> 00:38:57,703 Not interested. 786 00:38:57,717 --> 00:38:59,220 I want to go to trial. 787 00:39:02,028 --> 00:39:05,212 David Hopkins was just arrested for the murder of Jane Darby. 788 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:06,532 And who is Jane Darby? 789 00:39:06,577 --> 00:39:08,170 His college girlfriend. 790 00:39:08,187 --> 00:39:10,520 We got a tip and went back and took a hard look at Hopkins, 791 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:11,800 and this is what we found. 792 00:39:11,898 --> 00:39:14,801 - He's done this before? - And this time he's going down. 793 00:39:15,398 --> 00:39:18,721 How do I know this isn't some ploy to get me to settle? 794 00:39:19,156 --> 00:39:20,372 We don't. 795 00:39:22,436 --> 00:39:24,670 We're still prepared to take your case to trial, 796 00:39:24,738 --> 00:39:26,863 but you wanted David Hopkins brought to justice, 797 00:39:26,955 --> 00:39:28,080 and that's what we've done. 798 00:39:28,147 --> 00:39:30,031 There's more than enough evidence to convict him. 799 00:39:30,127 --> 00:39:31,881 I've heard that before. 800 00:39:31,985 --> 00:39:34,113 I'm asking you to trust me. 801 00:39:35,578 --> 00:39:39,113 The deal's still on the table; voluntary manslaughter, 20 years. 802 00:39:41,397 --> 00:39:43,371 What do you want from me? 803 00:39:44,526 --> 00:39:45,630 Stand before a judge 804 00:39:45,647 --> 00:39:49,740 and accept responsibility for what you did to my friend Kelly Joffe. 805 00:39:50,246 --> 00:39:53,533 Her parents are in agony because you decided to pick up a gun. 806 00:39:53,608 --> 00:39:55,461 You need to take this offer 807 00:39:55,465 --> 00:39:58,282 and spare them the pain and suffering of a trial. 808 00:40:05,586 --> 00:40:08,940 I went to my car and got the gun. 809 00:40:10,317 --> 00:40:13,580 I saw Hopkins standing on the courthouse steps 810 00:40:13,688 --> 00:40:16,101 laughing, smiling, 811 00:40:16,108 --> 00:40:17,540 a free man. 812 00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:20,181 That's when I started firing. 813 00:40:21,455 --> 00:40:24,281 I didn't even think about the other people. 814 00:40:25,227 --> 00:40:29,053 I just wanted Hopkins to pay for what he did to my daughter. 815 00:40:30,555 --> 00:40:35,053 I can still see that young woman's face... 816 00:40:37,077 --> 00:40:38,760 Miss Joffe. 817 00:40:39,647 --> 00:40:41,603 The look in her eyes 818 00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:44,101 after I shot her. 819 00:40:46,226 --> 00:40:48,420 Under the terms of your agreement, 820 00:40:48,486 --> 00:40:51,550 do you plead guilty to the crime of voluntary manslaughter? 821 00:40:51,618 --> 00:40:52,521 Yes. 822 00:40:52,577 --> 00:40:54,940 Under the terms of this agreement, do you understand that you will spend 823 00:40:54,946 --> 00:40:59,023 a minimum of 20 years in a state prison before being eligible for parole? 824 00:40:59,055 --> 00:41:00,551 Yes, I do. 825 00:41:00,617 --> 00:41:01,963 Mr. Peters, 826 00:41:01,967 --> 00:41:05,001 is there anything else you'd like to say at this time? 827 00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:20,140 Nothing I can say or do 828 00:41:20,777 --> 00:41:23,420 can sufficiently express 829 00:41:24,045 --> 00:41:28,590 my grief and my sorrow over killing your daughter. 830 00:41:31,068 --> 00:41:33,220 I'm going to have to live with that 831 00:41:33,226 --> 00:41:35,322 for the rest of my life. 832 00:41:44,527 --> 00:41:46,023 I love you. 833 00:42:04,275 --> 00:42:05,673 Nice work in there. 834 00:42:06,017 --> 00:42:07,793 Found a way out of that mess. 835 00:42:08,038 --> 00:42:10,231 Doug Hellman owes you too, big time. 836 00:42:10,258 --> 00:42:13,022 Something tells me he won't exactly see it that way. 837 00:42:18,068 --> 00:42:20,190 - I'll see you back at the office. - Okay. 838 00:42:28,056 --> 00:42:29,652 Thank you so much. 839 00:42:33,736 --> 00:42:35,300 Thank you for everything. 840 00:42:35,326 --> 00:42:36,562 You're welcome. 841 00:42:43,425 --> 00:42:46,211 I appreciate what you did for me, Annabeth. 842 00:42:48,358 --> 00:42:49,322 Shoulder. 843 00:42:49,395 --> 00:42:51,193 Sorry, sorry. 844 00:42:51,278 --> 00:42:53,741 So, you got a good result there, 845 00:42:53,836 --> 00:42:55,932 considering the circumstances. 846 00:42:55,965 --> 00:42:57,471 Well done. 847 00:42:57,875 --> 00:42:59,251 Just doing my job. 848 00:42:59,315 --> 00:43:01,153 You're far too modest. 849 00:43:01,166 --> 00:43:02,701 And I had a little help. 850 00:43:04,666 --> 00:43:07,322 About this gray area... 851 00:43:07,386 --> 00:43:09,063 What gray area? 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